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Speaker 1: It is a news filled day in Indianapolis on this

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Speaker 1: League as well, Colts getting set for the Miami Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: We now know the Colts have named their captains. These

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Speaker 1: are captains that were voted on, of course, by the team.

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Speaker 1: There is other news that we're going to get to

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Speaker 1: involving the Colts from a national standpoint. But before we

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Speaker 1: do that, Eddie, I don't know have you seen the list?

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Speaker 1: I have it before me here of the voted on

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Speaker 1: captains for the Indianapolis Colts for the twenty twenty five

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Speaker 1: and then twenty six season turning into twenty six. I mean,

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Speaker 1: would you like to guess?

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Speaker 2: Do you?

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Speaker 1: Have you seen the list? No? I have not. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you the side of the football,

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Speaker 1: and then you're going to guess the player I will

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Speaker 1: give you. Please get for me prepared the ding or

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Speaker 1: are correct or incorrect in your The first is a

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Speaker 1: go okay. Next another defensive player, Tire Franklin. Next a

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Speaker 1: Now we have two offensive players. Of the five voted

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Speaker 3: Two on the offensive side of the ball, Quinton Nelson,

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Speaker 3: Michael Hibban Jr. Um And he's thinking forgets the John

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Speaker 3: I think that goes to just speak to the fact

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Speaker 1: Here is the big story of the day. We have

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Speaker 1: And I have mentioned this before, I mentioned it yesterday,

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Speaker 1: I mentioned it numerous times. Our job is a great job.

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Speaker 1: What we do for a living. I am well aware

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Speaker 1: sports all the time, which is true, no question, and

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Speaker 1: there are very few times where our job is difficult.

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Speaker 1: But today's one of them. Not because there is tragic

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Speaker 1: I mean, you get those things right. But today is

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Speaker 1: just before we're on. From a national perspective, When this

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Speaker 1: It immediately resonated and they were discussing it. It is

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Speaker 1: it would be a change of scenery that's necessary.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, that's a very nice question there, and

436
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Speaker 2: it would depend on a lot of factors. I think

437
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 2: everything depends on the individual, and let's just use it specifically.

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Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson. I don't know him. I just look at

439
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Speaker 2: him from the outside. He seems like a very thoughtful guy.

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Speaker 2: I think, you know, based on what's happened, if he

441
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Speaker 2: understands the facts, and that is that he was a

442
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Speaker 2: quarterback that came out of the University of Florida who

443
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Speaker 2: needed to play to get better, and he hasn't really

444
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Speaker 2: played a lot because he's been hurt and because of

445
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Speaker 2: those injuries, his development has been slowed, which has created

446
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Speaker 2: a little impatience, which allowed Indy to bring in another

447
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Speaker 2: quarterback to create a competition because the coach and the

448
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 2: GM need to win, and especially.

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Speaker 4: Now once mister Ersa passed, I don't think.

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Speaker 2: Anyone knows what the daughters are going to do moving forward,

451
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Speaker 2: So this new regime has to win. And I think

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Speaker 2: if you're Anthony, you got to look at it like that,

453
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Speaker 2: Like Shane's in a position where he's got to win

454
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Speaker 2: to keep his job, and he's making the decision that's

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Speaker 2: best for the organization, not what's best for Anthony. Anthony

456
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Speaker 2: needs to play, he needs to go through growing pains,

457
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Speaker 2: he needs to stay healthy, but right now the head

458
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Speaker 2: coach doesn't have that affordability to do that. So I

459
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Speaker 2: think when you understand that, maybe it will allow you

460
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Speaker 2: not to have some harsh feelings towards the head coach

461
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Speaker 2: or the organization, and you will just say, you know what,

462
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Speaker 2: if I were in Shane's position, what would I do?

463
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Speaker 2: And so hopefully Anthony looks at it that way. I

464
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Speaker 2: don't know if he can, but that's kind of how

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Speaker 2: I read the situation in Indy as of today.

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Speaker 1: You know you've raised an interesting point, and you know

467
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Speaker 1: you obviously were part of this organization. Booger Burger McFarland

468
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Speaker 1: our guest in talking about the late Jim Mersey, who

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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody dispute. You know, this was an

470
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Speaker 1: owner that was football through and through. He grew up

471
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Speaker 1: around it, from carrying towels to write in the checks

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Speaker 1: right and with that, And maybe when you were here

473
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Speaker 1: it was too nuanced to know this in totality, But

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Speaker 1: do you think that he was in fact, for example,

475
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Speaker 1: when Richardson first came in, do you think that he

476
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Speaker 1: was the kind of guy that made orders to his

477
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Speaker 1: general manager or that trusted his general manager to make

478
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Speaker 1: those decisions and was there for guidance if need be.

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's any doubt. I think he was

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Speaker 2: who hired you and let you do your job based

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Speaker 2: on the fact that how you know, if you look

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Speaker 2: at the people that.

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Speaker 4: He's hired, Chris Valor, Tony Dungee.

484
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Speaker 2: Jim Calwell, those are people who don't want to be micromanaged.

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Speaker 2: And so I think that knowing those people, knowing mister

486
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Speaker 2: Ersay in the brief time that I did with him,

487
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Speaker 2: I don't think there's any doubt he is the type

488
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Speaker 2: of owner that's not going to be like he's the

489
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Speaker 2: anti Jerry Jones. I'll just put it that.

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Speaker 1: Way, right, you know. And with that, I think that

491
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Speaker 1: there was you know, it's interesting burger because there was

492
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Speaker 1: a report today and it can get slippery getting into

493
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Speaker 1: the nuances of it, of the fact that the last

494
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Speaker 1: few years of Jim Mersey's life, the addiction that he

495
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Speaker 1: had battled with had really gripped him and that that

496
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Speaker 1: had removed him from say, day to day type things.

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Speaker 1: At no point am I saying this as an indictment

498
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Speaker 1: on Jim Mersay as a character. But from a football standpoint,

499
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Speaker 1: if you had ambiguity, or if you have it right

500
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Speaker 1: now at the ownership standpoint, does that make it difficult

501
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Speaker 1: for those people to kind of know the direction or

502
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Speaker 1: the path that they are expected to follow other than

503
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Speaker 1: simply winning games. But in terms of timeline that you

504
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Speaker 1: talked about, does it complicate things of not knowing exactly

505
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Speaker 1: how firm your footing is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you can complicate things. But you know

507
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Speaker 2: what uncomplicated man, it's just communication. Like I think we're

508
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Speaker 2: in a day and time now where.

509
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Speaker 4: We don't we shouldn't be guessing like there's.

510
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Speaker 2: Too much money, there's too many people of.

511
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Speaker 4: Livelihoods to stake, you know, to me that this is

512
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Speaker 4: a conversation that should be had, you know, the daughters

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Speaker 4: and whoever's in charge, you know, once ownership has been

514
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Speaker 4: kind of taken over. To me, that's the conversation, especially.

515
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Speaker 2: Before the season. It's one thing if we were in season,

516
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Speaker 2: but the fact that this happened before the season, and

517
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Speaker 2: I don't think that or should I say, I don't

518
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Speaker 2: doubt that this hasn't happened.

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying what I would have liked to happen

520
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Speaker 4: is that they should have had a conversation with the

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Speaker 4: general manager and.

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Speaker 2: The head coach. Here are our expectations, here's what we expect,

523
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Speaker 2: and just have open dialogue. Like too many times we

524
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Speaker 2: try to guess what someone is thinking, we're all adults here,

525
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 2: we're all grown people, we have families. Let's just have

526
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Speaker 2: open communication and we know, agree to disagree, but at

527
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Speaker 2: least nobody is lindsided about how we think. So I

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Speaker 2: hope the girls talk to Chris. I hope that Chris

529
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Speaker 2: I talk to Shane.

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Speaker 4: If Shane wasn't in the meeting, that.

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Speaker 2: Way everybody understands where.

532
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Speaker 4: We are, because I would hate for.

533
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Speaker 2: Our people to lose their jobs. And this is not

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Speaker 2: just Shane losing this job. If Shane gets fired, different

535
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Speaker 2: entire staff. So there's thirty five forty people that are

536
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Speaker 2: going to lose their job. And so before we go

537
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Speaker 2: down that path, let's have open dialogue. If they say,

538
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Speaker 2: you know what, we like where we are, We're not

539
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Speaker 2: going to make any rash judgments or rush judgments, then

540
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Speaker 2: maybe maybe you bring back Anthony.

541
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Speaker 4: At some point and give him an opportunity.

542
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Speaker 2: To grow and get better. I don't know. I just

543
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Speaker 2: know that we're in a time where there's no need

544
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Speaker 2: to guess, like it shouldn't happen. And maybe the girls say,

545
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 2: you know what, we didn't hire Shane, we didn't hire Chris.

546
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Speaker 2: We're gonna go get our own head coach in GM.

547
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Speaker 2: Maybe that's the case and the conversation isn't needed. I

548
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Speaker 2: don't know.

549
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Speaker 4: I just know that there shouldn't be any.

550
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Speaker 2: Surprises when you're dealing with adults, grown people, and when

551
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 2: we're dealing with a multi billion dollar business, communication should

552
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Speaker 2: be at the forefront.

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Speaker 1: How would you assess the Colts roster aside from that?

554
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: You know, obviously quarterback, as you know Boger mc farlane,

555
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: quarterback is the most important position in sports, right NFL quarterback,

556
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Speaker 1: So the Colts are going with the guy that you know,

557
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: I think they're kind of hoping does have that Alex Smith,

558
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield change of scenery, trajectory change. But

559
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Speaker 1: aside from the quarterback, the overall roster for the Colts,

560
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Speaker 1: you see it or assess it how?

561
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Speaker 2: I think the roster is very talented. I think most

562
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Speaker 2: people would say that the reason the Colts haven't achieved

563
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 2: what most people think they should is because the quarterback

564
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Speaker 2: has been holding them back. Henceforth, while we have quarterback

565
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Speaker 2: competition and why people are down on Anthony Richardson, if

566
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Speaker 2: the Colts had let's just call it average quarterback play,

567
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 2: you know, average quarterback play would a guy didn't turned

568
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Speaker 2: the football over. Quarterback was able to distribute the ball

569
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Speaker 2: to the playmakers. Got talent on that team. The offensive

570
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 2: line is pretty good, Like they've paid a lot of

571
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 2: those guys on the offensive line. Defensively, they got talent.

572
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 2: They got some young guys in the secondary. So if

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Speaker 2: Daniel Jones plays average, like top fifteenth regular, let's just

574
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Speaker 2: say he's somewhere between fifteen and eighteen as far as

575
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Speaker 2: QBR how he plays, I wouldn't be surprised if the

576
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Speaker 2: coach get ten or eleven wins because the roster around

577
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Speaker 2: him is that good.

578
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Speaker 1: The league itself obviously has been designed and this is

579
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Speaker 1: why people love it. Booker, Right, the league is set

580
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: up for parity, and by that I mean that by structure,

581
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be down for multiple, multiple, multiple seasons, and

582
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Speaker 1: you see teams kind of come out of nowhere every

583
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: year when you look right now, if the combination of

584
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Speaker 1: scheduling as well as just roster in general or players

585
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Speaker 1: growing into their own, give me a team in the

586
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Speaker 1: NFL that you look at and you say, you know what,

587
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Speaker 1: it's not gonna surprise me if by like November or

588
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: December they are this year's say like Minnesota from a

589
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: year ago or whatever it may be, where you're like,

590
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Speaker 1: these guys are better than I thought that that people

591
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Speaker 1: thought they were going to be.

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Speaker 2: Well when you throw in Minnesota, now you bring in

593
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 2: fourteen to fifteen wins. So I'm not gonna say that,

594
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Speaker 2: But here's where I'll here's how i'll preface it. I'll

595
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Speaker 2: just use your the last part of your statement. A

596
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 2: team that's going to be better than we think Chicago.

597
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 2: I think Ben Johnson is a really good coach. I

598
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 2: think he'll he'll understand how to get the best out

599
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 2: of Caleb Williams whatever that is. I think they'll be

600
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Speaker 2: pretty good. I think everybody's darling is Denver. I think

601
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Speaker 2: Denver is going to be better than a lot of

602
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 2: people think they are. And people already think they're going.

603
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 4: To be pretty good.

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Speaker 2: You know. I think as you as you go around,

605
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Speaker 2: I think Gino.

606
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Speaker 1: With the Raiders, the Raiders intrigue me.

607
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Gino is a professional quarterback. And here's what I mean.

608
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Speaker 2: Like he like he understands how to play the position,

609
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,280
Speaker 2: he understands what not to do. Is Gino great?

610
00:34:58,600 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 5: Nah?

611
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 2: But Gino can be you know, somewhere between twelve and

612
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 2: fifteen and QBR like that's you know, I mean, that's

613
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 2: gonna be really good with how they play the football.

614
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 2: They can run it with Ashton gency. I think it's

615
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 2: a certain style. Pete Carroll understands how to win, So

616
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Speaker 2: I think those will be two teams. I would look

617
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Speaker 2: at Chicago in the NFC and then Las Vegas in

618
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 2: the AFC.

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Speaker 1: Do you see football differently now than you did as

620
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Speaker 1: a player, Well, I.

621
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Speaker 2: Think you have to, just because it's so much more

622
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,240
Speaker 2: money now involved in the game than when I played.

623
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Speaker 2: The game has gotten younger, meaning you know, I was

624
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 2: a guy who was a twenty nine thirty year old

625
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 2: guy on a team. You know, nowadays most guys on

626
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 2: the team are twenty five, twenty six years old. So

627
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 2: the league has gotten younger, and the league is less physical,

628
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 2: and so yeah, football has changed, man. I mean some

629
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 2: of the blocking.

630
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 4: Scheme things that you can't do anymore.

631
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Speaker 2: You can't blindside anybody, you can't hit through above the ways,

632
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 2: the backside lineman can't cut anymore. So the game has

633
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 2: gotten a little softer. It's still a great game, it's

634
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 2: just different than the game that we play. You know,

635
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 2: you know, when I get amongst guys who I play with,

636
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 2: some of the safety say they couldn't play now because

637
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 2: they couldn't hit anybody. Some of the offensive lineman say

638
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 2: they couldn't play because they didn't cut anybodies. So the

639
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 2: game has just changed. It doesn't mean it's worse. It's

640
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 2: just that because of the safety and because of some

641
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 2: of the factors, they've cleaned the game up a little bit.

642
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 2: So guys like me when they get to be forty

643
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 2: five fifty years old may not have some of the

644
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 2: injuries that our predecessors had.

645
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 1: I want to discuss real quick college football with you,

646
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 1: Booker McFarland before let you go. Of course, football analysts

647
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 1: for ESPN. I'm a diehard Clemson fan. It's going to

648
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: be a big one on Saturday, but probably nobody in

649
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: Indianapolis other than the two of us right now care

650
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 1: about Clemson and LSU. But I'm curious of your thoughts

651
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Speaker 1: in general, just on the college football landscape, and with

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Speaker 1: that I mean the playoff. Are you a proponent of

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Speaker 1: expand the playoffs in terms of the number of teams

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Speaker 1: in Do you like the way they have it right now?

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Speaker 1: Where do you see kind of the landscape going with

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Speaker 1: all of this, there was some intrigue.

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Speaker 2: I liked it at four. Once they went to twelve,

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Speaker 2: I was excited because you got a chance to see

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Speaker 2: some of the playoff games on home campuses. I think

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Speaker 2: they're going to add a couple more. I am not

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Speaker 2: going past sixteen, Like I'm not in favor of going

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Speaker 2: past sixteen. I think eventually the round number at sixteen

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Speaker 2: is probably where we're going to go. It just makes sense,

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Speaker 2: Like twelve with buys and all.

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Speaker 4: That, it kind of gets clunky.

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Speaker 2: I think they're settled on sixteen. It's kind of uniform

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Speaker 2: when it comes to the NCAA Tournament because there's a

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Speaker 2: bracket of sixteen already in the basketball tournament, and so

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Speaker 2: I think eventually, whether that's next year, they got to

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Speaker 2: have an answer by December first, for this year or

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Speaker 2: whenever it is. I think eventually we're gonna settle on sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Well, the good news if it's sixteen is that still

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Speaker 1: gets LSU a chance after they lose to Clemson on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Right whoever loses, was it Ohio State, Texas, LSU, Clemson,

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Speaker 2: notreed in Miami. Everybody is still in the correct.

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Speaker 1: No, you're right. Come Sunday morning, you're right about that

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Speaker 1: because you got to you know, you got to rattle

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Speaker 1: it off after that, But you are correct, Booger. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate the time as always and always enjoy seeing you

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Speaker 1: on ESPN and great insights. Look forward to talking to

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Speaker 1: you perhaps again over the course of the season, but

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Speaker 1: we'll certainly be watching as.

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Speaker 2: Well always anytime.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, sir, Booker McFarlane joining us on the guest

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Speaker 1: line here. All right, we talked about the college football

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Speaker 1: Playoff and expanding it. Perhaps one of the teams that

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Speaker 1: was in it last year and is primed to perhaps

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Speaker 1: return to the college football playoffs. Notre Dame and Tom Noy,

689
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Speaker 1: who covers them, joins us top of the hour here

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Speaker 1: a querying company on the fan. Thank you to Booker

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Speaker 1: McFarland for his time talking about college football the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Really good perspective and really really good on television. It

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Speaker 1: goes without saying when you talk about Booger McFarlane. We

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Speaker 1: were discussing in college football and the aspect of that

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Speaker 1: this chair. Can you hear all that, Eddie?

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Speaker 3: Maybe a little?

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Speaker 1: Can we get some WD forty in here for this chair?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know, maybe I'm I mean, I move

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Speaker 1: around a lot, but come on, college football and Tom

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Speaker 1: Noy gonna join us coming up here just a couple

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Speaker 1: of minutes. Listen, I'm I'm excited for college football for

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Speaker 1: this reason.

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Speaker 3: Starts tonight, Jake. We got a ton of games.

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Speaker 1: What's the biggest game tonight? Is there? Are there already

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Speaker 1: with I have not looked at the schedule for tonight.

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Speaker 1: Are there any ranked games tonight? There's probably some action, right.

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Speaker 3: So there is a game where there is one team ranked.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yes, that team that is ranked comes out of

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Speaker 1: what conference? We're going to guess right here?

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Speaker 3: Oh poop, I know they're in the Mountain West in basketball? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Mountain West.

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Speaker 1: Boise State. Can you say that again? Boise State? You go? Okay,

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Speaker 1: Boise State? Yeap, Yes, you are correct, and they are

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Speaker 1: taking on South Florida. Okay, five thirty. That's the first

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Speaker 1: game for today. One of the things about college football,

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Speaker 1: there are two things about college football that are just awesome.

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Speaker 3: Got a couple of Big ten teams tonight. Nebraska is

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Speaker 3: at Cincinnati on ESPN at nine o'clock, Miami of Ohio

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Speaker 3: at Wisconsin at nine on the Big Ten Network.

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Speaker 1: Wisconsin are starting with heavy hitter games here. I mean

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Speaker 1: when you look at there are two this weekend to

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Speaker 1: kick it off that are massive. Ohio State is huge.

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Speaker 1: Got Aboutrutgers. They're also at six so three? Who does

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Speaker 1: Rutgers play?

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Speaker 3: Rutgers faces Ohio the Bobcats.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't Wyoming play tonight the Pokes? Yes, I'm a Wyoming fan. Yes,

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Speaker 1: they are at Akron taking on the Zips. Gotta poke

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Speaker 1: those Zips. I should drive over to Akron. It's only

729
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Speaker 1: a five hour drive. Four o'clock. You may have time. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's go. Telling you. I'm a Wyoming if struggle last

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Speaker 1: year for Wyom they were on the struggle bus. But

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Speaker 1: I like Wyoming. But I love the fact that there

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Speaker 1: are two marquee massive games obviously to kick things off.

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Speaker 1: I mean Texas, Ohio State is huge. I think there

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Speaker 1: is so much expectation around arch Manning understandably so. And

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Speaker 1: then the thing about that game either way, assuming it's

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Speaker 1: even if you get blown out, but assuming that it

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Speaker 1: stays a close game, both those teams are going to

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Speaker 1: have plenty of and for you know, Texas probably has

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Speaker 1: the more rigorous schedule. I'm not looking at the schedule,

741
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Speaker 1: so I don't know. But the same can be said

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Speaker 1: for Clemson and LSU, as we just talked about with

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Speaker 1: Booger MacFarlane, like either one of those teams drops that game.

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Speaker 1: When you start talking about the college football playoff and

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Speaker 1: the college football playoff, to me, when we talk about

746
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Speaker 1: the expansion of it is a fascinating debate because initially

747
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Speaker 1: and originally the word when it came to college football,

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Speaker 1: you know, and a playoff was well, a college football

749
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Speaker 1: playoff because you can't play games on back to back

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Speaker 1: nights or two and three nights or whatever. It would

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Speaker 1: take too long and take kids away from class. And

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Speaker 1: then eventually the entire civilized world figured out, wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: that all takes place during basically winter break. Anyway, they're

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Speaker 1: not even in class, it's between semesters. But I think

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Speaker 1: Buger McFarland's correct. I think sixteen is probably the magic

756
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Speaker 1: number there and that's where they will end up with it.

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Speaker 1: I just hope that and I know that this gets

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Speaker 1: into a quagmire of conversation, but it would be my

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Speaker 1: hope that we don't get into a situation when it

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Speaker 1: comes to the college football playoff, you are automatically forced

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Speaker 1: to Okay, you've got to take four out of the

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Speaker 1: Big ten, four out of the SEC, four out of

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Speaker 1: the ACC. Part of the magic of it, don't forget

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Speaker 1: about the PAC two is I mean, is there anybody

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Speaker 1: you feel worse for than Washington State and Oregon State.

766
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Speaker 1: They sat around and everybody started like filling up their

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Speaker 1: dance card elsewhere and they're like, guys, we're part of

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Speaker 1: the conference, right, Well not really, and then you get

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Speaker 1: I mean, the realignment in general is absurd, but my

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Speaker 1: point being, I hope that it doesn't just become I

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Speaker 1: would much rather see and I think most people would.

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Speaker 1: Most people would much rather see the best team out

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Speaker 1: of the Mountain West or the best team out of

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Speaker 1: what's a non power you know, the MAC. Yeah, get

775
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Speaker 1: a shot over the fifth best or fourth best team

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Speaker 1: out of the SEC or Big ten. I think most

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Speaker 1: people this year in the Big ten. Okay, Ohio State, sure,

778
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Speaker 1: Penn State, Sure, even though I told you how Penn

779
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Speaker 1: State season is going to go, goes the same every year.

780
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Speaker 1: Start out five or six, and oh lead Ohio State

781
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Speaker 1: in the third quarter seventeen three, get excited, lose twenty

782
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Speaker 1: four to seventeen turn around two weeks later lose to Minnesota,

783
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Speaker 1: off to the Insight dot Com Bowl. But I digress

784
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Speaker 1: Ohio State, Penn State, Oregon, Sure, Oregon, and then you know,

785
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Speaker 1: maybe in Indiana or Illinois, or Michigan or Michigan. But

786
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Speaker 1: when you start getting into a team just because they

787
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Speaker 1: are nine and four out of the Big Ten, Minnesota

788
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Speaker 1: or for that matter, Indiana if they've got a couple

789
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Speaker 1: of losses I'm speaking from a national standpoint, or Illinois

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Speaker 1: unless they have a dominant year, would you rather see

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Speaker 1: those teams get any or you know, a thirteen to

792
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Speaker 1: oh Akron or a twelve and one Boise State. I

793
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Speaker 1: think teams people, it's just like the NCAA Tournament. With

794
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Speaker 1: the NCAA Tournament, everybody and their brother would much rather

795
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Speaker 1: see twenty nine to three College of Charleston than seventeen

796
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Speaker 1: and fourteen Arkansas because that's the magic of the NCAA

797
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 1: Tournament and the you know, college football doesn't need any

798
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Speaker 1: more magic thrown into it, per se because it already

799
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Speaker 1: has everybody hooked in. And the other thing with college

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Speaker 1: football and I hope that that and I get it.

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Speaker 1: I get on Thursday night, the importance of the MAC

802
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Speaker 1: for example. The Mac's been really smart because they get that,

803
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Speaker 1: you know, it becomes ubiquitous on Thursday night and synonymous

804
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Speaker 1: with Thursday night. The MAC does. But I hope college

805
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Speaker 1: football learn from the NFL in one area, and that

806
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Speaker 1: is that the NFL, once it really started expanding and

807
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Speaker 1: going and playing three and four times a week, I

808
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Speaker 1: think it took away a little bit of the magic.

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Speaker 1: The NFL is still the inn Hunter Pound Gerrella, don't

810
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Speaker 1: get me wrong, but there was a fatigue factor that

811
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Speaker 1: came in a little bit when they started doing Monday

812
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Speaker 1: at football, Thursday at football, Saturday football, Sunday football. You know,

813
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Speaker 1: the specialty of it goes away a little bit. And

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Speaker 1: with college football, Saturday is for college football. I mean,

815
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Speaker 1: it's just how it is. By the way, mactions on

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Speaker 1: Wednesday nights. Is it now on Wednesdays?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Wednesdays. So they don't go up against NFL.

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Speaker 1: That's smart, right, Yeah, that's very smart. But Notre Dame.

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Speaker 1: And what is expected out of the Irish? Tom Noy,

820
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Speaker 1: who was fun. We had a lot of fun with

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Speaker 1: them last year during the college football playoff run covers

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Speaker 1: the Irish and joins US. Next, what doesn't seem like

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Speaker 1: long ago, although I guess it was that the college

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Speaker 1: football playoff last year had Notre Dame. We talked plenty

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Speaker 1: about it, Tom Noy. Tom Noyd became really, to be

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Speaker 1: honest with you, we should probably have him on the

827
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Speaker 1: payroll because he essentially became our South Bend correspondent when

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Speaker 1: it comes to the Irish South Bend Tribune. And now

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Speaker 1: joining us on the program, Tom, your worst nightmares recurring,

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Speaker 1: We're calling you again.

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Speaker 6: I go to that mailbox every single day thinking I'm

832
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Speaker 6: going to get some sort of check from you guys,

833
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Speaker 6: and it comes up empty. And now I decide just

834
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Speaker 6: to come back for another year.

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Speaker 1: Listen, join the club. I don't know if you know this.

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Speaker 1: We actually are volunteers here at the radio station.

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Speaker 2: Nice.

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Speaker 1: Let's begin with this, and that is I thought, you know,

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Speaker 1: a year ago. It goes without saying the year that

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame had and just how good they were. And

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Speaker 1: I really like Marcus Freeman, and I like Marcus Freeman

842
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Speaker 1: because of his kind of tactical approach. And it seemed

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Speaker 1: to me like Notre Dame was a team last year

844
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Speaker 1: that just didn't make a lot of mistakes, and that

845
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Speaker 1: was one of the things. You know, when you have

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Speaker 1: a young coach, you're trying to kind of feel out

847
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Speaker 1: what it is that makes them a good coach. How

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Speaker 1: will if in any way, shape or form, be it

849
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Speaker 1: approach or personnel, How will Notre Dame look different now

850
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Speaker 1: than what we last you know, when we last saw them.

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Speaker 6: From a personnel standpoint, it's hard to believe, but this

852
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 6: team might be better than what it was last season.

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Speaker 6: Like you, you look out in the very little that

854
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 6: we were able to see on the practice field, and

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00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 6: they've got dudes just everywhere. And it used to only

856
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Speaker 6: be certain ones, like a handful. Now it's this guy,

857
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Speaker 6: that guy. He's a sophomore, he's a freshman, he's a

858
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Speaker 6: red shirt junior. So the personnel and the depth and

859
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Speaker 6: the talent and the athleticism is almost across the board

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Speaker 6: better than what it was in twenty twenty four. And

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Speaker 6: I still think for as much as they did last

862
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Speaker 6: season and winning thirteen in a row and going fourteen

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Speaker 6: and two and going to the College Football National Championship Game,

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Speaker 6: I still think this offense, we have no idea the

865
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 6: ceiling of what they can do under offensive court enator

866
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 6: Mike Denbrock because they were playing so much from behind

867
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 6: last year with Riley Leonard coming in as a new quarterback.

868
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 6: He missed all the spring because of his injury. He

869
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,280
Speaker 6: really just got going in at the start of camp

870
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,439
Speaker 6: in August. We just started to see what they could

871
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 6: be when everything ended. So I think offensively, I don't

872
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 6: know if it's going to be the old three yards

873
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 6: in a cloud of dust. Let's run the ball, Let's

874
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 6: win with defense like it has been for so many

875
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 6: years up here.

876
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, the quarterback, let's begin, you know with in talking

877
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:42,240
Speaker 1: about offensively speaking Tom just a quarterback position because anytime

878
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,879
Speaker 1: that you are replacing a guy that is you know,

879
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: you have an open competition. We've talked plenty about that

880
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 1: with football in these parts. What was it about? I

881
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 1: believe Carr is the one that ultimately they go with there.

882
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: So what do you believe he brings to the table

883
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: or that Marcus Freeman he utilized as the reason to

884
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: tab him.

885
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 6: He can make all the throws and make him well like,

886
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 6: he'll fit some of his throws into the tightest windows

887
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,879
Speaker 6: that have no business being there, but he gets it there,

888
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 6: and it's it's a dynamic from the quarterback position that frankly,

889
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 6: this program hasn't had. Where he's big, he's strong, he's athletic,

890
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 6: he can move the ball down the field, and they

891
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 6: can move it at a different pace than what they

892
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,320
Speaker 6: did with Riley Leonard. Like, yeah, Riley Leonard was the

893
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 6: quarterback last year. Yes, Riley Leonard won fourteen games and

894
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 6: got him to the National Championship Game. But if a

895
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 6: play broke down, or if Riley Leonard wasn't sure about

896
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 6: a certain call, guess what he's talking it and he's

897
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 6: running it. Whereas CJ. Carr is going to be like,

898
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 6: if I don't have this guy, I'm going to look here,

899
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 6: and if I look here and I don't like it,

900
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 6: I'm going to look there. I'm going to move the

901
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 6: ball down the field and I feel like I can

902
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 6: make every throw. And I just think at the end

903
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 6: of the day, when it came down to the CJ.

904
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 6: Carr and Kenny Minchee, they like the upside and the

905
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 6: potential of what Cige car can be and who he

906
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 6: can be. Maybe not right off the bat, but maybe

907
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 6: two three weeks down the line, we'll see a different CJ.

908
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 6: Car than what we're going to see on Sunday night.

909
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: You know what's funny, Tom, And we don't know this.

910
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the thing about college football every year

911
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: is we really don't know. We can go with reputation

912
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: of teams, but we don't know necessarily how good that

913
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 1: team is going to be one year to the next.

914
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: But if you look at Notre Dame schedule, I mean, obviously,

915
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 1: starting in Miami against Miami in hard Rock Stadium, you

916
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: know that's a challenge. And then you come home and

917
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: play Texas A and M. And I always believe that

918
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: Texas A and M. There is no bigger like preseason

919
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: muscle team that usually fades than Texas A and M.

920
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: But nonetheless, those are two big games to start. I

921
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: look at that, and then I think they have two

922
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: really tricky games from September endo October, and that's Arkansas

923
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:56,240
Speaker 1: and Boise State because in NC State. Also my point

924
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 1: being long winded here, I've been one that has always

925
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: kind have knocked on Notre Dame for their schedule. I

926
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 1: don't think you can say that this year their schedule

927
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 1: to me seems as daunting as any they've had in

928
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: quite some time.

929
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,720
Speaker 6: You agree or disagree, it could be tricky tough because

930
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 6: when you get into this business, and we've seen it

931
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 6: so many times up here with this program, when you

932
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 6: get into the business of counting wins, guess what happens

933
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:24,760
Speaker 6: Marshall Stanford Louisville at a bad Clemson team when Clemson

934
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 6: was there to be beaten but couldn't get couldn't be

935
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 6: beaten last year against Northern Illinois. So it's everybody looks

936
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,879
Speaker 6: at Everybody looks at Miami and Texas A and m

937
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 6: there's a week off in between there that helps notre

938
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 6: name two, but they look at those two games and say, boy,

939
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 6: if they can get to two and oh, they're going

940
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 6: to twelve and oh. But with this schedule, something's always

941
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 6: going to happen, whether it's the first ever trip to

942
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 6: Fayetteville to play Arkansas at eleven o'clock in the morning,

943
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 6: whether it's Boise State coming in here. Maybe USC gets

944
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 6: back to be in USC and then you've got the

945
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 6: trip to Pittsburgh that might be tricky in October. So

946
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 6: it looks manageable. But one thing we know about's still

947
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 6: ran football team. As you cover it, it's never as

948
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 6: manageable as you think it's going to be.

949
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 7: When everything starts.

950
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, man, in C State, in C State

951
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: this year, Tom So, I'm a Clemson fan, right, and

952
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: I know people get tired of me mentioning that, But

953
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: in C State is one of those programs. They're kind

954
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: of like Iowa in the Big Ten. Every three or

955
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 1: four years they get a senior laden team that you go, whoa,

956
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 1: wait a minute, and they're really good and then they

957
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 1: kind of go back into just you know, obscurity for

958
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 1: a couple of years and they hibernate, so to speak.

959
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: But they're tricky. I have no idea if NC State's

960
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 1: going to be good this year. The fact that's it

961
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,839
Speaker 1: Notre Dame probably helps. But and I think you could

962
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 1: say the same for Boise State for both of those games, right,

963
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 1: and then Southern maybe that's do you believe in trap games?

964
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: Because then you got Southern Cal on the eighteenth, So

965
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: you got those two games and Southern Cal is Southern

966
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: Cal and it's a rivalry game. Do you believe in

967
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:02,919
Speaker 1: quote unquote of young players looking too far down the road?

968
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 6: No, every game is some other team super Bowl. Like

969
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 6: everybody's pointing to Miami and everybody gets everybody from Miami

970
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 6: is going to get up to play Notre Dame. And

971
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 6: then you got Texas A and M coming in because

972
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 6: they're going to be up because they got to be

973
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 6: at home last year by Texas A and M. Boise State.

974
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 6: You can go right on down the line. Every game

975
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 6: is a trap game for this program because just when

976
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 6: you think you can relax and kind of catch your

977
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 6: breath a little bit, that's where a team that nobody

978
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 6: sees coming is going to step up and play the

979
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 6: game of their lives, like in northern Illinois, like a

980
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 6: Marshall and beat a Notre Dame team where everybody says, yeah,

981
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 6: they're going to.

982
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 7: Win that game.

983
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 1: Tom Noy is our guest talking about Notre Dame, the

984
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 1: Irish of course getting underway at Miami. Tom Marcus Freeman,

985
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 1: I want to go back to this when when you

986
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 1: have a situation where a guy kind of in unforeseen

987
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: circumstances ascends to the head coaching position and then kind

988
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 1: of before our eyes grows into that role, just in

989
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:09,359
Speaker 1: terms of approach, if you will, have you seen him

990
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: change at all from the day that he was announced

991
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 1: and hired in terms of his maturity, in terms of

992
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 1: maybe not that he was immature, but you know what

993
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe how guarded he was, et cetera, is

994
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 1: there or has he been the same guy the whole time?

995
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 6: He is so much more comfortable in his own skin,

996
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 6: in who he is and maybe more importantly, what he

997
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 6: represents as the head coach of the University of Notre

998
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 6: Dame football program. Like the first year, maybe the first

999
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 6: year and a half, he was really guarded. He never

1000
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 6: strayed from the script. He never wanted to smile. It

1001
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 6: was always business, especially in the press conference settings, where

1002
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:49,280
Speaker 6: he didn't want to let his guard down. He wanted

1003
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 6: to just stick to the script and stick to the

1004
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 6: answer that everybody believed he should give. And in recent years,

1005
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 6: the last couple of years, he's kind of gotten away

1006
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 6: from that, and it's so refreshed because you see that

1007
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 6: he's human and he's got another side to him, and

1008
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 6: it's just something where he's much more likable than the

1009
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,479
Speaker 6: last guy that was here, who, yeah, he won a lot,

1010
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 6: but he didn't really have that great of a sense

1011
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,320
Speaker 6: of humor. He didn't want to stray from the script,

1012
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 6: and when he tried to do something humorous, he was

1013
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 6: so serious nine hundred percent of the time that nobody

1014
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 6: around the program got it. So it's like you don't

1015
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 6: root for Marcus Freeman, but you really like him as

1016
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 6: a person, because, let's face it, you walk into this

1017
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:36,959
Speaker 6: job with no head coaching experience. This job could could

1018
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 6: eat him alive within it two years, three years to

1019
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:42,839
Speaker 6: the point where he's like, you know what, we don't

1020
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 6: know if he's the guy and he's done the complete

1021
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 6: opposite to where people look at Marcus Freeman and say, boy,

1022
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 6: he might coach it notrerame for the.

1023
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 7: Next ten years.

1024
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 1: I mean, he definitely like with right away, he just

1025
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: seemed like a dude that I don't know, seemed like

1026
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 1: incan And again, Tom, I'll say it again. The thing

1027
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,280
Speaker 1: the most to me, the most unlikable thing about Marcus

1028
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 1: Freeman is how likable he is.

1029
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 6: Exactly you know what I mean, but serious, seriously, because

1030
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,399
Speaker 6: of some of the people that we've dealt with here,

1031
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:15,240
Speaker 6: Like I go all the way back to Lou Holtz,

1032
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 6: so you rattle it off Lou Holtz, Bob Davey, Charlie Weiss,

1033
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 6: Brian Kelly, Tyrone Willingham, not the most warm and fuzzy

1034
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 6: guys and not the guys that you feel like like

1035
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 6: the one reason, the one reason why Mike Bray was

1036
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 6: so beloved as the men's basketball coach.

1037
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 8: Was anybody that that that that that came into contact

1038
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 8: in a relationship or whatever with Mike Bray, they said,

1039
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 8: you know what, he's a good dude, because he sounds

1040
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 8: like he's he seems like one of those guys you

1041
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 8: just want to go out and have a beer with, right,

1042
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 8: And Marcus Freeman is kind of the same way, where

1043
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 8: where Okay, it's it's it's he's the head coach and

1044
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 8: we're the media, and we know where we stand and

1045
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 8: he knows where he stands. But there's something about him

1046
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:54,919
Speaker 8: where you're just like, you know what, winn or lose,

1047
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 8: it doesn't really matter.

1048
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 5: I kind of like that guy.

1049
00:57:57,960 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: This might be speaking a little too deep in the

1050
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 1: weeds in terms of roster and in terms of lineups,

1051
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 1: but I am curious because there are two guys, not one,

1052
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 1: but two that are young players at Notre Dame that

1053
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 1: have come out of Indianapolis high schools that you know,

1054
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 1: came in with some praise. Cam Heron on the offensive

1055
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 1: line out of Warren and then Mark Zachary the fourth

1056
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 1: out of Ben Davis, who's a corner. But they're young

1057
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 1: players and Notre Dame is obviously an elite program. Either

1058
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 1: one of those guys get significant reps this year or

1059
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 1: is that not really the mo for Notre Dame at

1060
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 1: those positions.

1061
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:33,479
Speaker 6: For cam Heron, probably tough because he's along the offensive line,

1062
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 6: and this offensive line is so deep and so talented

1063
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 6: and so versatile to where maybe three or four five

1064
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 6: years ago, where they didn't have so many interchangeable parts,

1065
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 6: a guy like cam Heron walks in off the street

1066
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 6: of Indianapolis and can maybe find his way into the

1067
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 6: lineup if there's an injury. But they're so interchangeable now,

1068
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 6: where Joe Rudolph is like, all right, if we lose

1069
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 6: the left guard, we're going to do this, and then

1070
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 6: if we lose the right guard or the right tackle,

1071
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 6: we're going to do this. Ca here's kind of chance

1072
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 6: later on down the line. It's just he doesn't need

1073
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 6: to to kind of push his way into the rotation.

1074
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 6: And it's totally different on the other side of the ball.

1075
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 6: With Mark Zachary. We got the depth chart, the first

1076
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 6: official depth chart released by Notre Dame on Tuesday, and

1077
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 6: there's Mark Zachary as a number two backup cornerback. And

1078
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 6: one thing that gives you that would give Mark Zachary

1079
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 6: fans hope is a year ago at this time, nobody

1080
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 6: had any idea of a certain cornerback who was a

1081
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 6: true freshman who had no business playing, who had no

1082
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 6: business even thinking of seeing the field. And by the

1083
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 6: end of the year he was a freshman All American

1084
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 6: and that was Leonard Moore. And now he's a sophomore

1085
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 6: and he's on everybody's All American list. So Mark Zachary

1086
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 6: and Dallas Golden, two true freshman corners, are both backups

1087
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 6: at the corner spot. And you never know, like we

1088
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 6: never saw Leonard Moore coming, he wasn't gonna play. All

1089
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 6: of a sudden, Benjamin Morrison goes down with a.

1090
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 7: Season ending hip injury.

1091
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 6: Leonard Moore's got to start, you know what. Leonard Morris

1092
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 6: pretty good. They love what Mark Zachary might be able

1093
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 6: to give them.

1094
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 1: One day down the line, Tom, when you look at

1095
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 1: Notre Dame and you know, this conversation that I'm about

1096
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 1: to bring up has really kind of ceased. Tom Noy

1097
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 1: is our guest here. There was so much talk and

1098
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 1: it almost seemed like a FATA complete at one point

1099
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 1: that Notre Dame would join the Big Ten. And I

1100
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 1: think that that FATA complee was from people outside of

1101
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 1: Notre Dame that just thought, like inevitably Notre Dame was

1102
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 1: going to have to with conference realignment get on board.

1103
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 1: They're obviously still playing that ACC schedule and they have

1104
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 1: maintained their quote unquote independence. Did they weather that storm

1105
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 1: or is this a conversation that is going to, like

1106
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 1: you know, every three years, resurface.

1107
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 6: It'll resurface from everybody on the outside. But I can

1108
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 6: tell you Peepavakua is very confident that even as far

1109
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 6: out as passed twenty thirty maybe twenty thirty three, that

1110
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 6: they can remain independent. And they wanted to remain independent

1111
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 6: with three factors college football playoff access. They have that

1112
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 6: homes for their men's and women's basketball programs, and their

1113
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 6: rest of their Olympic sports. They have that in the

1114
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 6: ACC and in the Big Ten with hockey, and their

1115
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 6: television deal, and they're wrapped up past two thousand and thirty.

1116
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 7: I think thirty two with NBC.

1117
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 6: So with all the shuffling and all the pieces being

1118
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 6: moved around the College Football Board, that have happened and

1119
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 6: have happened in the last what four or five six years?

1120
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 6: Everybody looks at Notreames So, yep, that's it.

1121
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 1: They're done.

1122
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 6: They have to join the Conference Notre Dame. With each

1123
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:45,919
Speaker 6: passing year twenty four, twenty five, now into twenty six,

1124
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 6: they look at where college athletics is and they feel

1125
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 6: so strongly that their position cannot be any better as

1126
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 6: a football independent now than maybe what it was four

1127
01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 6: or five years ago.

1128
01:01:57,960 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 1: By the way, doesn't twenty thirty sound like it's like

1129
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 1: fifty years from now? Wait a minute, this is concerning right,

1130
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 1: Like there are kids entering right now that are like

1131
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 1: seniors in high school. They the class of twenty thirty

1132
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 1: for college. You're like, wait, what hold on? You know

1133
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 1: with that? When you talk about the playoff, Tom, it's

1134
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 1: interesting to me because, for example, if you look at

1135
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 1: the Irish's schedule and we just talked about it, I mean,

1136
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 1: you open up with Miami and then you know you

1137
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 1: got Texas A and m Would you rather do you

1138
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 1: think you have? If you were the football gods, would

1139
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:35,919
Speaker 1: you rather a team? If you had to pick one?

1140
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 1: Are you better if you start out zero to two

1141
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 1: and then you run the table. Are you in a

1142
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 1: better situation than if you are ten or eleven and

1143
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 1: zer and suffer your first loss midway through December or

1144
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 1: not December, But I guess late November, you know what

1145
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 1: I mean, right before the committee has to select. It

1146
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 1: is my feeling that recency bias comes into play when

1147
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 1: looking at those things. Your thoughts.

1148
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 6: It's better, and we saw it last year. It's better.

1149
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 6: If you're going to lose, you better lose early. Because

1150
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,439
Speaker 6: I'll speak from experience and cover Notre Dame. Last year,

1151
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:13,439
Speaker 6: Notre Dame was so far off that college football map

1152
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 6: after that Northern Illinois game where it was you almost

1153
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 6: you almost have to People would almost have to be

1154
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 6: fined around South Bend if you talked anything about the

1155
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 6: college football playoff after September fourth, because.

1156
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 2: They no nobody.

1157
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 6: Everybody was like, you know what, that's so far away,

1158
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 6: we can't worry about that. And it was great because

1159
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 6: nobody paid any attention to Notre Dame. Everybody wrote Notre

1160
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 6: Dame offense said there's no way they're going to run

1161
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 6: the table and get to a college football playoff game.

1162
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 6: After losing a freak in Northern Illinois, Notre Dame just

1163
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 6: went back to work and just kept winning and kept

1164
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 6: winning and kept winning, and other teams as the season

1165
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 6: got later, they kept losing, and this team lost and

1166
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 6: that team lost. They were able to sneak up on everybody,

1167
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 6: whereas I think if they had run, if they had

1168
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 6: maybe run the table and then gone out to USC

1169
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 6: and lost at USC, then the drum beat would be, well,

1170
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 6: they don't deserve it. You got to get an.

1171
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:09,439
Speaker 1: SEC team in there.

1172
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 5: Now.

1173
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:13,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I mean, it is fascinating right just that

1174
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 1: that overall, I mean the Northern Illinois game. I keep

1175
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 1: forgetting about that. I remember when that happened, thinking it's

1176
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 1: they're out right, they're out.

1177
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,919
Speaker 6: It was over, and I wrote it. I said, don't

1178
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 6: even bother thinking about the collegootball playoff. That's that's so

1179
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:29,960
Speaker 6: far away. Might as well be on Mars at that point.

1180
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 1: You wrote that, Tom, Yeah, I mean, I'll give you.

1181
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 1: I guess it's it's forever right there in print. Right.

1182
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 1: You can't escape it now that you wrote it, don't

1183
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? You just said forget about it,

1184
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 1: But you know I did say.

1185
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 6: Forget about it, absolutely, I did.

1186
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wrote that. Listen Okay, last question, Tom, This

1187
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 1: one you are I'm going to allow you, Tom Noyd,

1188
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 1: to be the judge and jury on this. Okay, this

1189
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 1: is a very important question. Please handle the answer with responsibility,

1190
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 1: with you know, responsibility, not like you did at that

1191
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 1: Northern Illinois game where you were off. Hey, this is

1192
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 1: the age old debate in Indianapolis. I need you Tom

1193
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 1: noys South in Tribune to tell me whether I'm right

1194
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 1: or wrong or you know, just your thoughts on this.

1195
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 1: I won't tell you which way. A leen, when we

1196
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis talk about college football and we talk about

1197
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 1: Indiana Purdue or basketball, and we talk about Indiana Purdue,

1198
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 1: and then in basketball wise we mix in Butler football

1199
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 1: wise here, you know, we'll mix in ball state. We're

1200
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 1: gonna talk to their coach coming up here in just

1201
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 1: a couple of minutes. Is Notre Dame a local team

1202
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 1: for the Indianapolis sports market.

1203
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 6: No, absolutely not. And I'll go back to I'll dust

1204
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 6: off the old Crossroads classic down at Banker's Life slash

1205
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 6: gain Bridge slash whatever the name of that place is.

1206
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 6: When it's Butler and Notre Dame and IU and Purdue

1207
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 6: and the fans support in downtown Indianapolis. When Notre Dame

1208
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 6: would play either Butler or we would either play Indiana

1209
01:05:56,000 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 6: or Purdue ran like maybe a distance sixth. There were

1210
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 6: Butler fans, There are IU fans, there are Purdue fans.

1211
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 6: There were Pacers fans, they were Cincinnati Reds fans. There

1212
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 6: were no Notre Dame fans ever in Banker's life, Field

1213
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 6: House Gamebridge Fieldhouse. To make that a worthwhile three hour

1214
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 6: bus ride down US thirty one for Notre Dame. So

1215
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 6: it's almost like it's almost like Indianapolis proper, West Lafayette, Bloomington,

1216
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 6: and then everybody else for the rest of the state. Oh,

1217
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 6: by the way, maybe we'll we'll think of Notre Dame

1218
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 6: if they go to a college football playoff or go

1219
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 6: to the national championship game. But no, I don't think

1220
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 6: Notre Dame is quote local to the Indianapolis market whatsoever.

1221
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:44,920
Speaker 1: When you travel to cover Notre Dame, and maybe you know,

1222
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 1: obviously outside of the Midwest, like if you're in Vegas,

1223
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 1: so you're in LA or whatever it may be, right,

1224
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:54,440
Speaker 1: what state do you think most people immediately associate with

1225
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 1: Notre Dame.

1226
01:06:58,360 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 6: Illinois?

1227
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 1: I think that might be right, Yeah, I mean Michigan.

1228
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 6: Well, well, I mean everybody's like, well Notre Dame. Yeah,

1229
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 6: that's in the Midwest, but what state is it in?

1230
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 1: Yeah? It is fascinating to me. The reason I say it, Tom,

1231
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 1: is because a lot of people give us grief, and

1232
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 1: probably rightly. So when I mentioned, you know, Indiana teams

1233
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:27,200
Speaker 1: like to start out the football season, and I say Indiana, Purdue,

1234
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 1: you know, ball State, whatever, and people like, what about

1235
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:30,520
Speaker 1: Notre Dame And I'm like, I get it, But Notre

1236
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 1: Dame is its own entity, Like it's a national brand,

1237
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 1: and clearly it's theological connection is the epicenter of that

1238
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 1: because it is the most prestigious Catholic university in America, right,

1239
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:44,439
Speaker 1: so it is a national brand. I just don't think

1240
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 1: that people think Notre Dame of Indiana, you know what

1241
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 1: I mean.

1242
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 6: College basketball writers every year select their all district teams.

1243
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 6: There's seldom a time where there's one or even two

1244
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 6: or three Notre Dame men's basketball players. Even when Jaron

1245
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 6: Grant was a national All American in twenty fifteen, it

1246
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 6: was a struggle to get him on an all district

1247
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 6: team and all district teams for the Batchlori Association are

1248
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 6: done by state because people forget Notre Dame is in

1249
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 6: Indiana because they play in the ACC or before that

1250
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:20,720
Speaker 6: they played in the Big East. So there would be

1251
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 6: deserving guys that would be left off those teams, and

1252
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 6: you'd have like the fourth or fifth guy from Indiana

1253
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:29,759
Speaker 6: or Purdue or Michigan State make those teams because people

1254
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:31,679
Speaker 6: forget about Notre Dame and being in Indiana.

1255
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:35,599
Speaker 1: You've successfully backed me up on this, Tom, listen our

1256
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 1: radio brotherhood and fist bump continues. I absolutely love it.

1257
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:44,720
Speaker 1: I'll leave you with this trivia question. What Notre Dame

1258
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:47,000
Speaker 1: basketball player is the one that forced Bob Knight to

1259
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 1: go to his own for the first time.

1260
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 6: You remember I've covered Notre Dame men's basketball for twenty

1261
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 6: seven years. That's maybe a little before.

1262
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 1: Mind, it is before your time. You are correct.

1263
01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:59,919
Speaker 6: The called digger on one way out the door.

1264
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:03,559
Speaker 1: Here David Rivers, Baby, David Rivers Night went to the

1265
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:06,679
Speaker 1: zone very briefly against Notre Dame. Because of David Rivers,

1266
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 1: Tom appreciate the time. As always, it is the Irish.

1267
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:12,840
Speaker 1: It is Miami of Florida. That game on the thirty first,

1268
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 1: which if my math is correct, says that that is Saturday,

1269
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:16,720
Speaker 1: but appreciate the time.

1270
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 6: It is always Tom, What's Monday night, Brother, Sunday night.

1271
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 1: Sunday night. So see my math is wrong. I should know.

1272
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:22,960
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, Tom, I'm gonna leave you with this

1273
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 1: fun fact. I've told Eddie this. This is incredible. Are

1274
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 1: you ready for the most amazing fun fact of all time? Tom?

1275
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:29,160
Speaker 1: I keep saying that we're almost done here, but listen

1276
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 1: to this true story. I've had four serious, like adult

1277
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 1: relationships in my life in terms of romantically speaking. Okay,

1278
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:41,759
Speaker 1: the first, the first serious girlfriend, I had her birthday

1279
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:45,120
Speaker 1: August twenty sixth when we broke up. About a year later,

1280
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:47,759
Speaker 1: I started dating a girl. Her birthday is August twenty seventh.

1281
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 1: The next girl after that that I dated's birthday is

1282
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:54,679
Speaker 1: August twenty eighth. And the girl that I'm currently dating,

1283
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 1: who I have very happily for twenty years now, her

1284
01:09:57,320 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 1: birthday is tomorrow, which is the twenty ninth. You are

1285
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:02,760
Speaker 1: one weird dude. That is the weirdest thing ever, is

1286
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:04,479
Speaker 1: it not. I mean you, we would flunk a lot

1287
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:07,080
Speaker 1: of math classes on the mathematical possibility of that. But

1288
01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 1: what I'm getting at is for that reason, I get

1289
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:11,720
Speaker 1: completely confused at the end of August as to what

1290
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:15,120
Speaker 1: day anything is right, But I know that her birthday

1291
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:17,800
Speaker 1: is tomorrow. Tom appreciate it, man. You got my man

1292
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 1: had great Tom Noy from the South Bend Tribune. So

1293
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:23,520
Speaker 1: I do know that that Shannon's birthday.

1294
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 3: Is tomorrow, Eddie, you got anything planned?

1295
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 5: Jake?

1296
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 1: I have to go to Nashville for any car boy.

1297
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 1: We are going to dinner tonight to her favorite restaurant.

1298
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 1: How about that? Are you not revealing where it is?

1299
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 1: I'm not okay.

1300
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:42,679
Speaker 3: You don't want You don't want Shannon's fan base showing

1301
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 3: up to disappoint you. I don't want J and V

1302
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:52,559
Speaker 3: skulking around, which is well little to you know, Jake, tomorrow.

1303
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:52,840
Speaker 1: What's that?

1304
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 3: She already invited?

1305
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:57,680
Speaker 1: That's right, she's she's all excited for her birthday to

1306
01:10:57,720 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 1: make requests on the jamb taco.

1307
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 3: Are you gonna, you know, clean up a little bit?

1308
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:04,600
Speaker 3: You're a little scruffy, I am. You don't like this

1309
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:08,720
Speaker 3: the white of How about this? The white of my

1310
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:10,679
Speaker 3: beard that really starts to show up once it gets

1311
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:11,599
Speaker 3: to a certain link.

1312
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 1: There.

1313
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:14,840
Speaker 3: For what it's worth, you start looking like Grandpa Jake.

1314
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:20,840
Speaker 1: Hell, that is the reality of my age group. Yes,

1315
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:24,640
Speaker 1: not necessarily, but to some extent. You want to go

1316
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:26,880
Speaker 1: up to Muncie. Are we gonna do that Funsie.

1317
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 3: Mounsie, Funsie Monthsie. I haven't heard that one before me.

1318
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:32,559
Speaker 1: Yes, we are. You've never heard Funsie Mounsie. No? Oh yeah, man,

1319
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:36,400
Speaker 1: Munzi's where it's at. Ball State football getting underway. They

1320
01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:38,679
Speaker 1: have a new head coach. He joined the program when

1321
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 1: he got the job, and he will join us to

1322
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:43,400
Speaker 1: preview what the cards Chirp Chirp have in stored. He's

1323
01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 1: gonna do it.

1324
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:44,640
Speaker 5: Next what.

1325
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 1: I can already hear in his car. Call her, what's happening?

1326
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:53,559
Speaker 1: Todd getting fired up for Chirp Chirp the Ball State

1327
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:59,599
Speaker 1: Fighting Football Cardinals. Jake, coach, you is about to shock

1328
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:01,880
Speaker 1: the state with the ball State Cardinals over perdue the

1329
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 1: first win on an undefeated season in Monseie. Todd says,

1330
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:08,639
Speaker 1: just stick around, coach, when you dominate the college football

1331
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 1: world in Munseye and grow things at Ball State. That's

1332
01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 1: exactly what I think people are hoping for. One step

1333
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:18,120
Speaker 1: at a time though, for mikey Rimovich and the ball

1334
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 1: State Football Cardinals and the first year coach for Ball

1335
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 1: State joining US now return guests to the program. Coach,

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01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:25,320
Speaker 1: how are you good?

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01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 7: Great to be on, good to talk to you again.

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01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:30,680
Speaker 1: Let's begin with this. You know, this challenge for you

1339
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 1: guys with Purdue. I'm going to get to but I

1340
01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 1: want to know this. Whenever you get and you are

1341
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:39,600
Speaker 1: not a new figure in terms of head coach. You

1342
01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:41,720
Speaker 1: have been in that situation before, but you are new

1343
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 1: to Ball State. And I'm curious when you have that

1344
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 1: period and you go through camp and you get set

1345
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:52,000
Speaker 1: for the season, is that more about the roster learning

1346
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:54,719
Speaker 1: their coach or the coach learning his roster.

1347
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:57,760
Speaker 9: I think it's a little of both now because with

1348
01:12:57,840 --> 01:12:59,680
Speaker 9: the transfer portal, you know, we had a bunch of

1349
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:02,880
Speaker 9: new guy guys that went through our offseason program with

1350
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:05,559
Speaker 9: US in January and through springball, but we added eighteen

1351
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:08,680
Speaker 9: new players after spring ball was over, you know, So

1352
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:11,160
Speaker 9: you're trying to learn those guys and see what they're

1353
01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 9: good at and what they need obviously to continue to

1354
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 9: improve on. And they're trying to learn you as a

1355
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:17,680
Speaker 9: as a coach and our staff. So I think I

1356
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:18,559
Speaker 9: think it's both ways.

1357
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 1: Honestly, You've got a quarterback in Kyle Kelly that you

1358
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:26,600
Speaker 1: know is an upperclassman but does not have extended experience

1359
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 1: under center. What was it about the quarterback that led

1360
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 1: you to go that way and what sort of offense

1361
01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:35,120
Speaker 1: do we expect to see.

1362
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:37,160
Speaker 7: He's really dynamic man.

1363
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:39,720
Speaker 9: He can run, he can throw the football, he makes

1364
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:43,680
Speaker 9: really good decisions, and just throughout my career and as

1365
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 9: an offensive coordinator head coach, we've always wanted a dual

1366
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:48,599
Speaker 9: threat guy there. I just think it's a lot harder

1367
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:50,839
Speaker 9: to play defense when they got to play against eleven

1368
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 9: instead of you know, ten and the guy that can't

1369
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 9: really run around very much and make plays with his seat.

1370
01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 9: So he fits everything we want athletically, and he's a

1371
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 9: really really good leader and said it, he's been around

1372
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:02,760
Speaker 9: here a while. I mean, he knows ball state better

1373
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:05,080
Speaker 9: than I do. He's been here a lot longer than

1374
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:07,599
Speaker 9: I have. So it's some fun to watch him grow

1375
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:09,920
Speaker 9: our offense and you know, learn it in spring ball,

1376
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 9: but didn't have all summer to kind of really get grips.

1377
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:15,400
Speaker 9: That's what we're asking him to do. And he's had

1378
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:16,400
Speaker 9: a really good training camp.

1379
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:21,759
Speaker 1: When you look at coach the reality of college football

1380
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five transfer portal in IL. All of

1381
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 1: those things right, and in particular in the MAC. The

1382
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:32,360
Speaker 1: reality is that a lot of times, if you get

1383
01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 1: a guy that's an upperclassman, you know they're going to

1384
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:39,240
Speaker 1: go in IL, you know, seeking elsewhere. Sure, and I

1385
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:41,800
Speaker 1: know that you're new to the league itself, but I

1386
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 1: am curious, does a coach in twenty twenty five, because

1387
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:51,559
Speaker 1: of the roster rollover or lack of rollover, does a

1388
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:54,599
Speaker 1: coach need to be more versatile than he did ten

1389
01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:58,800
Speaker 1: or fifteen years ago and have flexibility of system that

1390
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 1: or scheme that he didn't have to have ten or

1391
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 1: fifteen years ago.

1392
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 9: You definitely, We've always tried to have that. Yeah, we

1393
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:07,720
Speaker 9: have our offense that we want to run, but you know,

1394
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 9: one year you're might have a great tight end, so

1395
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:11,760
Speaker 9: you're going to feature that guy a little more and

1396
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:13,720
Speaker 9: maybe next year you're not as good there, but you're

1397
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:14,719
Speaker 9: better at wide receiver.

1398
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 7: But you definitely have to have that.

1399
01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:21,559
Speaker 9: We are recruiting to our systems, but like you said,

1400
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 9: you might have a guy that fits your system really

1401
01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:25,680
Speaker 9: well and he decides after his name, first team all

1402
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:28,639
Speaker 9: MAC to go into portal. So you know, we talk

1403
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:31,360
Speaker 9: with our staff and a lot about all right, this

1404
01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:34,080
Speaker 9: is our team for this year. They're here, now, let's

1405
01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 9: coach them all. We're going to go and then try

1406
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:39,040
Speaker 9: to after the year. Seniors are going to leave. Unfortunately,

1407
01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:41,320
Speaker 9: some guys are going the portal, and then you go

1408
01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:43,120
Speaker 9: recruit in that portal window and.

1409
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:44,840
Speaker 7: Then that is your team for the next year.

1410
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:47,040
Speaker 9: I mean, there's two things we're trying to do. We're

1411
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 9: trying to get a bunch of really good high school

1412
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 9: players in here that we can develop, knowing that you

1413
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 9: might lose them at some point, but hopefully they're playing

1414
01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:58,160
Speaker 9: so well for you that someone does maybe try to

1415
01:15:58,200 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 9: take him. And then you're also going to have to

1416
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:02,559
Speaker 9: addresser needs in the portal. So it's really year by year,

1417
01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:05,639
Speaker 9: and that's college football right now.

1418
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 1: You obviously are beginning with a familiar foe familiar for you,

1419
01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 1: I mean, and that is Purdue. You will be playing

1420
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 1: at ross Aid coming up on Saturday at noon ball

1421
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:20,759
Speaker 1: State and Purdue. You anticipate to see what out of Purdue,

1422
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:23,599
Speaker 1: and you anticipate to see what in terms of what

1423
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:26,920
Speaker 1: you're hoping to see from your guys, well, I.

1424
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 9: Hope from us you see a discipline, physical football team

1425
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:32,479
Speaker 9: and it has fun playing football. That you're going to

1426
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:34,559
Speaker 9: be able to tell by the way we play that

1427
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:37,840
Speaker 9: the guys enjoy playing together and for each other, and

1428
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 9: that we're not going to beat ourselves and we're going

1429
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:41,880
Speaker 9: to be physical and every element of the game. As

1430
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 9: far as Purdue goes, I feel like we have a

1431
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 9: better idea about what they'll do defensively because they're head

1432
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:50,439
Speaker 9: coach and defensive coordinator were together at UNLV, so they're

1433
01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:52,679
Speaker 9: going to be coming in and running the same systems.

1434
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 7: Offensively, it's a little different.

1435
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:57,320
Speaker 9: They have a play caller that came from USC, but

1436
01:16:57,320 --> 01:16:59,200
Speaker 9: he wasn't calling the plays there and the last time

1437
01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:02,080
Speaker 9: he called plays was four or five years ago at Missouri.

1438
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 9: So we've had to watch USC film. We have to

1439
01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:07,439
Speaker 9: watch Missouri film and a bunch of other spots that

1440
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 9: the assistant coaches on that side.

1441
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 7: Of the ball have came from. So in the first

1442
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 7: quarter for us.

1443
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:14,120
Speaker 9: Defensive, we're going to have to figure out, Okay, this

1444
01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:15,839
Speaker 9: is what they're going to do on offense.

1445
01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 1: How much of you know when you're going through you

1446
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:23,080
Speaker 1: know spring ball and everything else, and you have an

1447
01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 1: opener with Purdue and then you go to Auburn, which

1448
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:26,760
Speaker 1: is obviously going to be a challenge going down there

1449
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:30,080
Speaker 1: in a big time environment. How much or when do

1450
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 1: you kind of shift from focusing on you to focusing

1451
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:36,040
Speaker 1: on opponent.

1452
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:39,280
Speaker 9: Now, as a staff, we spend time on our first

1453
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:41,800
Speaker 9: four games in the summer getting ready for our opponents,

1454
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 9: but as soon as training camp starts, all we worry

1455
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:48,280
Speaker 9: about is developing our players and to fit the systems

1456
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 9: that we have and installing our offense and defense because

1457
01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 9: there's things you got to put in camp that we

1458
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:55,760
Speaker 9: might not use till week five, but you need to.

1459
01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 7: Have practiced it. But about ten days ago is when

1460
01:17:58,240 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 7: we started Purdue.

1461
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 9: We treated it like a bye week, and about ten

1462
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:04,479
Speaker 9: days ago we started working with scout teams. We had

1463
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 9: the speakers blaring behind the hunt with the produced fight

1464
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:09,160
Speaker 9: song and the crowd noise to get ready for that.

1465
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:11,920
Speaker 9: And it's been you know, it's about about ten day

1466
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 9: prep for this game.

1467
01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:15,000
Speaker 1: I'm going to make a statement, coach, and I want

1468
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 1: you to tell me if you agree or disagree. Okay, yep.

1469
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 1: We know about the Power fives, We know about how

1470
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:25,960
Speaker 1: much talent there is at the SEC or the Big

1471
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 1: ten level. You know, probably throughout the leagues, but in

1472
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:36,759
Speaker 1: terms of parody and evaluating rosters from top of league

1473
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 1: to you know, bottom of league, if we want to

1474
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:44,160
Speaker 1: use that term, I think the MAC has as much

1475
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 1: competitive balance as any league in college football.

1476
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:51,439
Speaker 9: Your thoughts, you're one hundred percent right, and that's why

1477
01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 9: I love coaching. I coaching the MAC at Northern Illinois,

1478
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:57,559
Speaker 9: and it is from top to bottom. When you look

1479
01:18:57,600 --> 01:18:59,839
Speaker 9: at what the staff pool is to pay your coaches,

1480
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:04,680
Speaker 9: what the scholarship budget is, with the operational budget in

1481
01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:06,320
Speaker 9: the MAC, from top to bottom.

1482
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 7: It's pretty dann close.

1483
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:08,960
Speaker 9: I'm not going to say the school names because we

1484
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:10,320
Speaker 9: all know who they are, but you look at the

1485
01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:12,759
Speaker 9: Big Ten and you look at the top three schools

1486
01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:14,840
Speaker 9: what they're spending, and you compare that to the bottom

1487
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:18,320
Speaker 9: three schools with their spending, it's like two different conferences.

1488
01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:21,439
Speaker 9: And that's why I love the MAC because you have

1489
01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 9: a shot as a coach to compete and outwork and

1490
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:27,280
Speaker 9: out recruit and out develop your players. Where you know,

1491
01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:29,639
Speaker 9: there's some schools in the country that are in leagues

1492
01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 9: that their institutions aren't supporting them.

1493
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:34,600
Speaker 7: To the level that the top top teams in that

1494
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:36,799
Speaker 7: league are. And it's a big difference.

1495
01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:39,760
Speaker 1: Mike you Ribenvich is our guest. He is the first

1496
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 1: year head coach of the ball State Cardinals. Of course,

1497
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:45,840
Speaker 1: coached at Butler, coached at Saint Francis of Illinois, been

1498
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:48,400
Speaker 1: in a little bit of everywhere northern Illinois as well.

1499
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:50,719
Speaker 1: Predominantly you have stayed throughout the Midwest, but you spend

1500
01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:53,439
Speaker 1: some time at NC State and Temple. Do you as

1501
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 1: a coach kind of take a little bit of what

1502
01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 1: you see from all of those other places and then

1503
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:02,600
Speaker 1: kind of turn it into, if you will, like this

1504
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:06,120
Speaker 1: potpourri of stuff you've learned along the way of different

1505
01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:07,839
Speaker 1: things that work in different leagues.

1506
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:12,599
Speaker 9: For sure, I offensively I've learned and I continue to learn,

1507
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 9: and as a coach, you're going to continue to learn.

1508
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:16,479
Speaker 7: As a head coach. I think there's two things that

1509
01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:18,599
Speaker 7: I'm always I've been.

1510
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 9: Fortunate to work for some very good head coaches and

1511
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:22,280
Speaker 9: learned a lot of things and a lot of things

1512
01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:24,800
Speaker 9: that I still do right now, and also saw a

1513
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:26,720
Speaker 9: few things that, hey man, I would never do it

1514
01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:27,400
Speaker 9: that way.

1515
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:28,000
Speaker 7: You know.

1516
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:30,280
Speaker 9: So you're always trying to learn. But I do think

1517
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:33,200
Speaker 9: when you get to a school, you have your base

1518
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 9: principles that you believe in and how you're going to

1519
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:37,559
Speaker 9: do stuff. But in terms of recruiting and how you're

1520
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:40,240
Speaker 9: running your program, it has to be a little bit

1521
01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:43,200
Speaker 9: geared towards what that institution has to offer and how

1522
01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:45,840
Speaker 9: they're supporting you, because you know how you're going to

1523
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:49,519
Speaker 9: recruit and develop and coach at ball states different than

1524
01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:51,760
Speaker 9: NC State, it's going to be different than Temple, it's

1525
01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:54,600
Speaker 9: going to be different than Butler. So you do have

1526
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:56,679
Speaker 9: to fit it to the institution. But there's certain core

1527
01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:58,080
Speaker 9: things that are always going to be there.

1528
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:00,720
Speaker 1: Tell me the team in your co coaching ten year

1529
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:05,360
Speaker 1: coach as a head coach, the team, the season that

1530
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:07,240
Speaker 1: you look back on, and the group. And there's a

1531
01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:09,160
Speaker 1: reason I'm asking this. The group you were most proud

1532
01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:10,960
Speaker 1: of was what year? What school?

1533
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:15,120
Speaker 9: You're gonna laugh, But my second year at the University

1534
01:21:15,160 --> 01:21:17,120
Speaker 9: of Saint Francis as a head coach, we took over

1535
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 9: a program that wasn't very good, and my first year

1536
01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:23,639
Speaker 9: we lost our last eight games, and my second year

1537
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:27,360
Speaker 9: we lost our first eight. So we had lost sixteen

1538
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:30,479
Speaker 9: games in a row, and that's before the portal. So

1539
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:32,880
Speaker 9: we had a bunch of freshmen and sophomores playing for us,

1540
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:35,000
Speaker 9: and those guys kept playing and playing and playing, and

1541
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:36,679
Speaker 9: we won a couple of games late in the year,

1542
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:39,599
Speaker 9: and that built us with some confidence and they saw

1543
01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:41,679
Speaker 9: some reward for their work. And then two years later

1544
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:43,599
Speaker 9: we ended up going seven and four with those group

1545
01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:47,360
Speaker 9: as seniors. And for those guys to continue to prepare

1546
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:51,599
Speaker 9: losing week after week after week, that's hard. And I've

1547
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 9: been proud of every team I've coached, but that group

1548
01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:56,920
Speaker 9: right there set the foundation for the success we had

1549
01:21:56,960 --> 01:21:58,639
Speaker 9: at Saint Francis, and it was tough.

1550
01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 1: Now here's the thing. I don't laugh, and I'll tell

1551
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:05,599
Speaker 1: you why I asked it, because one of the things

1552
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:08,800
Speaker 1: that I've noticed about coaches, and in particular good and

1553
01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:14,000
Speaker 1: great coaches, is that oftentimes they find success in foundation

1554
01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 1: in places the rest of us don't. And they look

1555
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:19,760
Speaker 1: at it and they say, the easy answer here is

1556
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 1: going to be in twenty eleven when I was ten

1557
01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 1: and three, or the easy answer is going to be

1558
01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:25,599
Speaker 1: in twenty four Butler when I was nine and three.

1559
01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:31,000
Speaker 1: But oftentimes success is found deeper within the stuff that

1560
01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:34,120
Speaker 1: we don't see and that we don't grasp.

1561
01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:37,000
Speaker 7: And you're right, you know what I mean, and we

1562
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:37,639
Speaker 7: won game.

1563
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:39,400
Speaker 1: There's a lesson at all that isn't there.

1564
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:42,040
Speaker 9: Yes, And that's why we all got into this, was

1565
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 9: to teach kids how to learn life skills to be

1566
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:46,599
Speaker 9: able to go attack the rest of their life. And yeah,

1567
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:48,519
Speaker 9: I want to win, man, and win is important. And

1568
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:49,920
Speaker 9: if you don't win it as a coach, are going

1569
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:52,559
Speaker 9: to fire you. We all understand that. But we're trying

1570
01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:55,600
Speaker 9: to develop these gigs for something bigger than football, you know.

1571
01:22:55,680 --> 01:22:58,639
Speaker 9: And we've won games, and I've been not very happy

1572
01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:01,519
Speaker 9: on Sunday when I watch that because we didn't play

1573
01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:03,479
Speaker 9: to our ability level and we've lost games.

1574
01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:05,280
Speaker 7: And I've came in on Sunday and been proud as

1575
01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:05,960
Speaker 7: heck of our.

1576
01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:08,439
Speaker 9: Group because we played to the best of our ability.

1577
01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:11,519
Speaker 9: We didn't beat ourselves. We lost to somebody better. That's

1578
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:12,840
Speaker 9: going to happen sometimes.

1579
01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:15,160
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it, man, It makes me.

1580
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:17,880
Speaker 1: It makes me right there that just that part of

1581
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:19,720
Speaker 1: it is what it's all about, coach. And we're going

1582
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:23,320
Speaker 1: to see it on display in rass eight against Perdue

1583
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 1: for the Ball State Cardinals. That is this Saturday at noon.

1584
01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 1: The first chance to see them in Monsey takes place

1585
01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:32,120
Speaker 1: on September thirteenth against New Hampshire. That is a two

1586
01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:35,000
Speaker 1: o'clock start that game on ESPN Plus, but two of

1587
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:37,599
Speaker 1: them on the road to open up. Perdue and Auburn coach.

1588
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:39,720
Speaker 1: Look forward to talking to you again. Certainly, wish you

1589
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:42,160
Speaker 1: the best of luck, and we'll be watching on Saturday

1590
01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:43,080
Speaker 1: against the Boilers.

1591
01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:44,880
Speaker 7: I appreciate it, Thank you very much.

1592
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 1: All right, Mike Rimovich, the head coach of the ball

1593
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:50,600
Speaker 1: State Cardinals. Good stuff there, love it. A lot of

1594
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:52,880
Speaker 1: stuff to talk about with the Colts. Matt Taylor going

1595
01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:54,760
Speaker 1: to join us at two o'clock and I'm going to

1596
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 1: recap and revisit a big story about the Colts that

1597
01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:01,559
Speaker 1: came out before we got on the air today, and

1598
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:05,120
Speaker 1: it leads to a dichotomy in terms of the way

1599
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:11,719
Speaker 1: that we take it all in. I'll explain next earlier today,

1600
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:19,840
Speaker 1: earlier this morning, and I'm sure most of you now

1601
01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:25,040
Speaker 1: by now have seen this, but the Washington Post came

1602
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:29,760
Speaker 1: out with their story about the last few years in

1603
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:35,719
Speaker 1: the life of Jim Mersay. And as I was reading

1604
01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:41,880
Speaker 1: the story, and I recapped earlier some of the things

1605
01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:47,719
Speaker 1: that were said in it. But as I was reading

1606
01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:50,840
Speaker 1: that story and it was talking about the fact that

1607
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:56,840
Speaker 1: Jim mersay that he in the last two years of

1608
01:24:56,840 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 1: his life overdosed on opiod's three times, and that there

1609
01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:06,240
Speaker 1: were people close to him that had great concern about

1610
01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:11,640
Speaker 1: Jim Mersey's health and we are well aware of and

1611
01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:14,320
Speaker 1: discussed in December of twenty three, I believe it was

1612
01:25:14,439 --> 01:25:19,599
Speaker 1: the nine to one one call at his home, and

1613
01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:25,479
Speaker 1: shortly after that I called two other people within the

1614
01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:30,920
Speaker 1: local media because someone who I think would know called

1615
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:34,639
Speaker 1: me and said, listen, Jim Mersey had another overdose in

1616
01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:41,760
Speaker 1: Miami or near Miami, i think they said, and was

1617
01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:46,879
Speaker 1: ultimately flown back to Indianapolis under like a hospital ambulance

1618
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:49,080
Speaker 1: or an air ambulance or whatever you call that, you know,

1619
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:52,519
Speaker 1: so to speak, and that he was hospitalized in an

1620
01:25:52,520 --> 01:25:58,280
Speaker 1: Indianapolis hospital under a special wing and et cetera. And

1621
01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:02,680
Speaker 1: I say that not because like, hey, we knew about this.

1622
01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:06,040
Speaker 1: That's not what I'm trying to say. What I'm trying

1623
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 1: to say is it became a very delicate area and

1624
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:19,360
Speaker 1: it became kind of like, you know, slippery, because number one,

1625
01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:24,280
Speaker 1: verifying those things in the moment is very difficult via hippa,

1626
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:28,400
Speaker 1: and number two, verifying those things also becomes questionable as

1627
01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:31,520
Speaker 1: to whether or not it is legitimate, or needed or necessary.

1628
01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:35,599
Speaker 1: And the reason I say that is because this article

1629
01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:38,639
Speaker 1: from the Washington Post, which details in great detail, speaking

1630
01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:41,800
Speaker 1: to people apparently very close to Jim Irsay about the

1631
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 1: multiple overdoses that he had, and then in addition to that,

1632
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:49,880
Speaker 1: the fact that he not only was continuing to take

1633
01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:57,360
Speaker 1: opiate or opiate pills throughout his addiction, but also was

1634
01:26:57,360 --> 01:27:02,840
Speaker 1: taking and I hope I'm saying it, ketamine injections, which

1635
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:11,280
Speaker 1: is a prescribed but very potent opiate. And when this

1636
01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:15,760
Speaker 1: article came out, it leads to the question of how

1637
01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:22,840
Speaker 1: much do we really need to know? And there are

1638
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:25,720
Speaker 1: times I would like to think that the reason that

1639
01:27:27,479 --> 01:27:31,599
Speaker 1: I have this job is that it means that someone

1640
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:35,280
Speaker 1: trusts that I understand the barriers of the boundaries of

1641
01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 1: speaking about things. But there are times where I don't

1642
01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:41,840
Speaker 1: know that I even trust myself. Because you want to

1643
01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 1: be respectful and sensitive of the fact that, yes, Jim

1644
01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:48,160
Speaker 1: Mersay was an owner of an NFL team, but Jim

1645
01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:54,120
Speaker 1: Rsay also was a grandfather, a father, a neighbor, all

1646
01:27:54,160 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 1: of those things. And when you come to and I

1647
01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:02,320
Speaker 1: was thinking about it, And I was thinking about the

1648
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:09,280
Speaker 1: what comes with public a public persona, how much of

1649
01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 1: that lends to the necessity of public of one's life

1650
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:19,040
Speaker 1: being publican totality. And I go back and forth on

1651
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:27,559
Speaker 1: this because I thought to myself, his public persona lends

1652
01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:33,320
Speaker 1: itself towards making his personal life public because he was

1653
01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:39,839
Speaker 1: the owner of a franchise whose value increased exponentially thanks

1654
01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:43,880
Speaker 1: to a very kind deal on behalf of the Capital

1655
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 1: Improvement Board of the taxpayers of Marion County, Indianapolis, Indiana,

1656
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:52,760
Speaker 1: and a publicly subsidized building that his team played in

1657
01:28:53,439 --> 01:28:59,000
Speaker 1: that afforded him money off of events that aren't even

1658
01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:02,320
Speaker 1: related to the Indianapolis Colts for the length of the

1659
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:08,880
Speaker 1: contract that was agreed upon. So if the taxpayers of

1660
01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:13,320
Speaker 1: Indianapolis are looking at Jim Irsay and saying, we're giving

1661
01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:16,639
Speaker 1: you what reportedly has been forty percent of every non

1662
01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:24,480
Speaker 1: football generated dollar within Lucas Oil Stadium for multiple decades

1663
01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:27,439
Speaker 1: of moving into that stadium. In other words, the Taylor

1664
01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:33,160
Speaker 1: Swift concert, the concession sales, the parking on site, and

1665
01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:36,599
Speaker 1: the ticket sales a revenue A percentage of that goes

1666
01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:39,919
Speaker 1: to Jim Mersey and the Indianapolis Colts during his lifetime,

1667
01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:45,200
Speaker 1: and so therefore, does that mean that his life is

1668
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:49,920
Speaker 1: up for public scrutiny. Perhaps that doesn't mean that, but

1669
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:52,439
Speaker 1: it does mean that the people that are giving that

1670
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:58,479
Speaker 1: money probably expect that. That means that all of the

1671
01:29:58,600 --> 01:30:02,880
Speaker 1: business decisions of the franchise itself are being made under

1672
01:30:02,920 --> 01:30:06,880
Speaker 1: the clarity of thought of somebody who is operating with

1673
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:09,880
Speaker 1: the proper intention of getting return on investment for the

1674
01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:14,200
Speaker 1: city in terms of its enjoyment, its competitiveness, and etc.

1675
01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:18,920
Speaker 1: And all of those things are very fair. And in

1676
01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:22,360
Speaker 1: addition to that, to go back and analyze and scrutinize

1677
01:30:22,360 --> 01:30:25,519
Speaker 1: the way that the Cults did or did not handle

1678
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:31,640
Speaker 1: reports or questions or allegations as to the demons that

1679
01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:35,080
Speaker 1: were gripping Jim orsay, does that lead to precedent then

1680
01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:37,720
Speaker 1: of how much they can be trusted moving forward to

1681
01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:42,679
Speaker 1: be transparent about different things in terms of relationship between

1682
01:30:42,680 --> 01:30:45,639
Speaker 1: the franchise and the city. Those are all fair questions,

1683
01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:51,000
Speaker 1: and I battled and dealt with my own trust of

1684
01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:56,640
Speaker 1: how to address that situation on this show with this

1685
01:30:56,800 --> 01:31:01,080
Speaker 1: news coming out, and what I opted to go with

1686
01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:07,519
Speaker 1: for the best course of action is this in the

1687
01:31:07,560 --> 01:31:10,720
Speaker 1: television show ted Lasso, which is a fantastic show, there

1688
01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:13,640
Speaker 1: is a scene where one of the coaches for the

1689
01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:18,720
Speaker 1: soccer team is explaining and answering a question about a

1690
01:31:18,760 --> 01:31:22,439
Speaker 1: player having a disciplinary action in the course of a

1691
01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:24,240
Speaker 1: game where he goes into the stands and has this

1692
01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:28,280
Speaker 1: volatile eruption. It was like the brawl at the Malice

1693
01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:32,320
Speaker 1: at the Palace type stuff. And when he's explaining it,

1694
01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:35,200
Speaker 1: he says, look, I get the fact that fans think

1695
01:31:35,240 --> 01:31:38,120
Speaker 1: that because they buy a ticket, that gives them the

1696
01:31:38,240 --> 01:31:41,000
Speaker 1: right to say whatever they want to athletes. I get that,

1697
01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:44,880
Speaker 1: But not only are the athletes behind closed doors and

1698
01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:47,439
Speaker 1: in their private life. There are also people that have

1699
01:31:47,960 --> 01:31:51,160
Speaker 1: the same challenges, the same emotional issues as the rest

1700
01:31:51,200 --> 01:31:55,280
Speaker 1: of us. And in the case of Jim irsay, yes,

1701
01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:58,400
Speaker 1: he is somebody that put himself out there publicly. Yes,

1702
01:31:58,479 --> 01:32:01,960
Speaker 1: he is somebody that capitalized financially publicly. Yes he is

1703
01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:04,960
Speaker 1: somebody that put himself on the public stage, not just

1704
01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:08,439
Speaker 1: as a football owner, but also as a musician and

1705
01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:12,839
Speaker 1: an eclectic musical collector and etc. And he put himself

1706
01:32:12,880 --> 01:32:16,519
Speaker 1: on that stage. But he also later in his life

1707
01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:20,479
Speaker 1: put himself on that stage by making everyone aware of

1708
01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:22,840
Speaker 1: the fact that he knew he had demons, and while

1709
01:32:22,920 --> 01:32:26,479
Speaker 1: he did not perhaps speak to that with the level

1710
01:32:26,520 --> 01:32:30,880
Speaker 1: of transparency, that was the validity of what he was

1711
01:32:30,960 --> 01:32:35,120
Speaker 1: undergoing in terms of its totality. He was transparent about it.

1712
01:32:36,439 --> 01:32:38,840
Speaker 1: And I think the legacy of Jim Mersey, who was

1713
01:32:38,880 --> 01:32:42,760
Speaker 1: a philanthropic individual that left an imprint on this town

1714
01:32:42,840 --> 01:32:46,800
Speaker 1: in terms of the football team and the trivia giveaways

1715
01:32:46,840 --> 01:32:51,320
Speaker 1: and everything that he did. I came to the epiphany

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01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:54,360
Speaker 1: or the realization of it that perhaps we needed to

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01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:57,400
Speaker 1: know from this story of the Washington Post what it

1718
01:32:57,560 --> 01:33:01,240
Speaker 1: was that Jim Mersey was going through in an ah,

1719
01:33:01,360 --> 01:33:03,720
Speaker 1: we gotcha, not in a see we told you so

1720
01:33:03,880 --> 01:33:08,240
Speaker 1: kind of way, but rather to say that even somebody

1721
01:33:08,520 --> 01:33:13,080
Speaker 1: who has the means, the resources, and the financial accessibility

1722
01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:19,439
Speaker 1: to overcome and fight through and put in the past

1723
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:23,600
Speaker 1: the grip of addiction, sadly and tragically could not do so.

1724
01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:28,719
Speaker 1: But he begged of all of us to not turn

1725
01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:32,240
Speaker 1: our back on the perceptions that come with not only

1726
01:33:33,240 --> 01:33:37,160
Speaker 1: the addiction, whether it be gambling, alcohol, opiates, whatever it

1727
01:33:37,160 --> 01:33:41,439
Speaker 1: may be, but also the stigmas of mental illness. And

1728
01:33:41,479 --> 01:33:45,640
Speaker 1: so this story from the Washington Post perhaps was important

1729
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:49,439
Speaker 1: because what it showed is that those demons and those

1730
01:33:49,479 --> 01:33:54,640
Speaker 1: addictions know no boundary. And if you think that it

1731
01:33:54,720 --> 01:33:57,120
Speaker 1: is a weakness on your behalf, because you put yourself

1732
01:33:57,120 --> 01:33:59,960
Speaker 1: in a plot in life that forbids you from overcoming

1733
01:34:00,120 --> 01:34:04,160
Speaker 1: those things. Jim Mercy reminds us that sometimes those things

1734
01:34:04,720 --> 01:34:08,200
Speaker 1: grip so tightly that it doesn't matter the status, and

1735
01:34:08,240 --> 01:34:10,559
Speaker 1: it affects everyone, and there's not a shame in it.

1736
01:34:11,840 --> 01:34:16,800
Speaker 1: And so therefore this story to me serves simply as

1737
01:34:16,840 --> 01:34:23,240
Speaker 1: the reminder that addiction knows no bias, and it does

1738
01:34:23,320 --> 01:34:26,920
Speaker 1: not in any way, shape or form discriminate nor select

1739
01:34:27,520 --> 01:34:32,639
Speaker 1: selectively who it grips. And so therefore, if you, if

1740
01:34:32,640 --> 01:34:35,680
Speaker 1: someone close to you is suffering from either addiction or

1741
01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:38,680
Speaker 1: a mental illness, this is a reminder that it is

1742
01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:42,640
Speaker 1: an ongoing journey in battle and you simply have to

1743
01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:46,680
Speaker 1: take it one game at a time. And while that

1744
01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:51,000
Speaker 1: story was uncomfortable, perhaps the lesson that we can learn

1745
01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:52,960
Speaker 1: from all of it should give us a comfort in

1746
01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:56,160
Speaker 1: the fact that it is another example of how we

1747
01:34:56,240 --> 01:34:59,880
Speaker 1: all do at times share in the same plot. Mo

1748
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:03,400
Speaker 1: moving forward from one day to the next. Matt Taylor's

1749
01:35:03,400 --> 01:35:05,320
Speaker 1: The Voice of the Colts they have a game upcoming

1750
01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:08,040
Speaker 1: against the Miami Dolphins a week from Sunday, will preview

1751
01:35:08,400 --> 01:35:10,559
Speaker 1: and get his thoughts on the finalitey of the roster.

1752
01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:15,080
Speaker 1: Next Matt Taylor, voice of the Colts, set to join

1753
01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:17,200
Speaker 1: us here coming up just a couple of minutes from now.

1754
01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:24,120
Speaker 1: Been a busy day here today, busy day. And by

1755
01:35:24,160 --> 01:35:30,280
Speaker 1: the way, the other one that's hard to explain with

1756
01:35:30,360 --> 01:35:32,080
Speaker 1: Tom Noyd when I was talking about whether or not

1757
01:35:32,080 --> 01:35:34,720
Speaker 1: Notre Dame is a local team and somebody's like, Jake,

1758
01:35:34,760 --> 01:35:36,920
Speaker 1: you're way off based. Notre Dame has a ton of

1759
01:35:36,920 --> 01:35:39,360
Speaker 1: fans here. Again, I don't disagree with any of that.

1760
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:45,919
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is, unlike Indiana or Purdue or Butler,

1761
01:35:47,520 --> 01:35:50,320
Speaker 1: the percentage of Notre Dame people that are fans of

1762
01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:52,920
Speaker 1: Notre Dame are not epicentered in Indianapolis. Notre Dame is

1763
01:35:52,920 --> 01:35:56,960
Speaker 1: a national brand that happens to be located in Indiana,

1764
01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:02,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So that regard, it's just it's

1765
01:36:02,680 --> 01:36:09,120
Speaker 1: a little bit different with in terms of Notre Dame.

1766
01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:16,360
Speaker 1: The Colts announced their captains for this season. They are

1767
01:36:16,520 --> 01:36:20,519
Speaker 1: and this is voted on by the players. The captains

1768
01:36:20,520 --> 01:36:27,519
Speaker 1: for the Colts. This year, DeForest Buckner, Kenny Moore, Zire Franklin,

1769
01:36:29,479 --> 01:36:39,439
Speaker 1: Quentin Nelson and Daniel Jones. There are three Eddie Garrison

1770
01:36:40,040 --> 01:36:43,000
Speaker 1: players that were captains last year that were not voted

1771
01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:48,760
Speaker 1: as captains this year. Would you like to guess those three? Sorry?

1772
01:36:48,760 --> 01:36:51,920
Speaker 3: I was texting Matt what's the question? And I'm sorry?

1773
01:36:52,240 --> 01:36:55,000
Speaker 1: Three players that were captains for the Indianapolis Colts a

1774
01:36:55,080 --> 01:36:57,120
Speaker 1: year ago that are not captains this year.

1775
01:36:57,439 --> 01:37:01,439
Speaker 3: That would be Anthony Richardson number one. That is number one,

1776
01:37:03,680 --> 01:37:10,600
Speaker 3: Number two who would have been a captain a year ago.

1777
01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:12,240
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1778
01:37:12,320 --> 01:37:12,920
Speaker 3: I can't remember.

1779
01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:15,519
Speaker 1: The all three on the offensive side of the ball.

1780
01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:20,639
Speaker 3: Offensive? Oh Ryan Kelly. Nope, Kelly wasn't a captain.

1781
01:37:20,479 --> 01:37:22,719
Speaker 1: Last year, he might have been, I'm sorry. Of those

1782
01:37:22,760 --> 01:37:25,400
Speaker 1: on the roster this year, there are three that that

1783
01:37:25,880 --> 01:37:27,680
Speaker 1: put their jersey on and notice there's no Sea on

1784
01:37:27,760 --> 01:37:28,200
Speaker 1: it this year.

1785
01:37:28,280 --> 01:37:33,799
Speaker 3: Oh Jonathan Taylor. Did he have to see?

1786
01:37:33,840 --> 01:37:33,920
Speaker 5: That?

1787
01:37:34,040 --> 01:37:35,599
Speaker 1: Is one? You have one left?

1788
01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:38,000
Speaker 3: And it was an offensive player.

1789
01:37:38,120 --> 01:37:44,799
Speaker 1: Yes, and I think defines captain because he played through injury.

1790
01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:45,759
Speaker 3: Michael Pittman Jr.

1791
01:37:45,880 --> 01:37:49,880
Speaker 1: Yes, those are the three. I think at the very

1792
01:37:49,920 --> 01:37:51,960
Speaker 1: least what you see is that an NFL team is

1793
01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:55,120
Speaker 1: going to elect its starting quarterback at captain regardless, right,

1794
01:37:55,120 --> 01:37:56,800
Speaker 1: because it was Richardson a year ago and now this

1795
01:37:56,880 --> 01:37:59,120
Speaker 1: year they're like, oh, Daniel Jones started, you know captain.

1796
01:37:59,160 --> 01:38:01,240
Speaker 3: Well, I mean they're that and like there's the other

1797
01:38:01,320 --> 01:38:03,599
Speaker 3: aspect too, like you hear some of the things that

1798
01:38:03,640 --> 01:38:06,920
Speaker 3: like Josh downs, Michael Bitman Jr. And at Night Mitchell

1799
01:38:06,960 --> 01:38:10,720
Speaker 3: say and regards to like how Daniel has been in

1800
01:38:10,840 --> 01:38:13,400
Speaker 3: full command of the offense in the huddle. He's demanding,

1801
01:38:13,439 --> 01:38:15,680
Speaker 3: he's telling guys where they need to be. He's you know,

1802
01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:17,400
Speaker 3: he's one of the first people in there every day,

1803
01:38:17,479 --> 01:38:19,040
Speaker 3: is one of the last to leave. Like all the

1804
01:38:19,040 --> 01:38:21,360
Speaker 3: cliches about NFL quarterback, he has been that.

1805
01:38:21,680 --> 01:38:26,519
Speaker 1: Right now, you're right and again we talked to Booger

1806
01:38:26,600 --> 01:38:31,000
Speaker 1: McFarlane off the top of the show that is available

1807
01:38:31,000 --> 01:38:33,680
Speaker 1: by the Way Podcasts form at one O seven five

1808
01:38:33,720 --> 01:38:34,960
Speaker 1: of the fan dot com. We asked that you wait

1809
01:38:35,040 --> 01:38:37,479
Speaker 1: until after janeb showed to listen to the podcast, but

1810
01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:40,160
Speaker 1: Booger McFarlane was saying that he thinks that Daniel Jones

1811
01:38:40,280 --> 01:38:42,840
Speaker 1: is the kind of quarterback that if they you know,

1812
01:38:43,000 --> 01:38:45,680
Speaker 1: he if he doesn't turn the ball over, that he

1813
01:38:45,760 --> 01:38:50,240
Speaker 1: thinks the rest of the roster is has some talent

1814
01:38:50,320 --> 01:38:52,639
Speaker 1: and can carry them a little bit, and we'll see

1815
01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:55,240
Speaker 1: whether or not that is the case. Joining us now

1816
01:38:55,560 --> 01:38:59,120
Speaker 1: on the always busy as evidenced today and available for

1817
01:38:59,200 --> 01:39:01,479
Speaker 1: your company to spot. That's your guest line. Matt Taylor

1818
01:39:01,560 --> 01:39:04,040
Speaker 1: is the voice of the Indianapolis Colts. Joins us. Matt,

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01:39:04,120 --> 01:39:08,280
Speaker 1: Let's begin with the roster itself and the you know,

1820
01:39:08,360 --> 01:39:10,400
Speaker 1: not just kind of the some of the changes they

1821
01:39:10,439 --> 01:39:13,840
Speaker 1: had to make on the roster, but also those that

1822
01:39:13,920 --> 01:39:16,639
Speaker 1: went onto the practice squad that maybe at some point

1823
01:39:16,640 --> 01:39:20,400
Speaker 1: will get elevated over the course of the season. Was

1824
01:39:20,439 --> 01:39:23,080
Speaker 1: there anybody either that did make the roster or that

1825
01:39:23,360 --> 01:39:26,160
Speaker 1: didn't make the roster that jumped out or surprised you.

1826
01:39:27,680 --> 01:39:31,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a good question, no, which which might be

1827
01:39:31,960 --> 01:39:35,160
Speaker 5: a little bit of a hot take, because you know,

1828
01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:37,760
Speaker 5: I thought receiver was pretty chalk, you know, the six

1829
01:39:37,840 --> 01:39:39,960
Speaker 5: guys that we thought would make the team going into

1830
01:39:40,040 --> 01:39:44,080
Speaker 5: training camp made the team. You know, same thing on

1831
01:39:45,000 --> 01:39:47,479
Speaker 5: the defense too, Like there wasn't a whole lot of

1832
01:39:48,080 --> 01:39:52,400
Speaker 5: guys that made it that I thought wouldn't and vice versa.

1833
01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:57,280
Speaker 5: Maybe the closest one just because of like your thoughts

1834
01:39:57,600 --> 01:40:01,920
Speaker 5: going into training camp versus you know what transpired during

1835
01:40:02,240 --> 01:40:06,439
Speaker 5: July and August in the preseason. How about a name,

1836
01:40:06,560 --> 01:40:11,840
Speaker 5: like the defensive tackle for the Colts, Johnson. You know,

1837
01:40:11,880 --> 01:40:14,080
Speaker 5: he was with the Colts. He got drafted in twenty

1838
01:40:14,160 --> 01:40:17,320
Speaker 5: twenty two and then was plucked away, got picked up

1839
01:40:17,320 --> 01:40:20,800
Speaker 5: by New England and then Eric Johnson comes back with

1840
01:40:20,920 --> 01:40:23,280
Speaker 5: the Colts and you're thinking, okay, well, you know, how

1841
01:40:23,360 --> 01:40:24,920
Speaker 5: is this going to go. You know, where does he

1842
01:40:24,960 --> 01:40:28,799
Speaker 5: fit in and what's the depths behind the defensive tackles

1843
01:40:28,800 --> 01:40:31,120
Speaker 5: that are just absolute studs for the Colts and Grover

1844
01:40:31,240 --> 01:40:35,000
Speaker 5: Stewart and DeForest Buckner, you know, the Colts bringing Neville Gallimore.

1845
01:40:35,120 --> 01:40:38,400
Speaker 5: They drafted a you know, a player at that position

1846
01:40:38,439 --> 01:40:40,720
Speaker 5: in the draft on Day three, but it's a big

1847
01:40:40,760 --> 01:40:44,880
Speaker 5: one because it's you know, ten Smith from Alabama. So

1848
01:40:45,600 --> 01:40:48,080
Speaker 5: the fact that that he was kind of outside the

1849
01:40:48,400 --> 01:40:52,439
Speaker 5: picture the begin training camp, but then once camp started,

1850
01:40:53,040 --> 01:40:55,080
Speaker 5: I mean, he looks like a fishing water inside this

1851
01:40:55,160 --> 01:40:58,280
Speaker 5: Louian Remo defense and then he's bawling out in the preseason.

1852
01:40:58,360 --> 01:41:02,320
Speaker 5: He's the Colts leading tackler in the preseason. So he

1853
01:41:02,400 --> 01:41:05,000
Speaker 5: just had a really nice camp and based on the evidence,

1854
01:41:05,000 --> 01:41:06,920
Speaker 5: it was just really hard to keep him off the roster,

1855
01:41:07,160 --> 01:41:11,559
Speaker 5: so they pick him and Tim Smith initially, and then

1856
01:41:11,640 --> 01:41:14,479
Speaker 5: because they're kind of stan at linebacker, they off of

1857
01:41:14,520 --> 01:41:17,679
Speaker 5: waivers pick up Chad Mooma to give him some depth

1858
01:41:17,680 --> 01:41:20,640
Speaker 5: and linebacker and to play special teams. And then it

1859
01:41:20,640 --> 01:41:22,679
Speaker 5: was kind of a numbers game, you know, keeping six

1860
01:41:23,360 --> 01:41:27,080
Speaker 5: six defensive tackles is kind of definitely a luxury. So

1861
01:41:27,160 --> 01:41:30,479
Speaker 5: they decide to pick or keep Eric Johnson and wave

1862
01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:33,639
Speaker 5: Tim Smith. So kind of a cool story in that regard.

1863
01:41:33,680 --> 01:41:36,320
Speaker 5: But no, I think to answer your question, it's it

1864
01:41:36,360 --> 01:41:38,880
Speaker 5: was pretty much the roster I thought it was going

1865
01:41:38,960 --> 01:41:42,479
Speaker 5: to be, especially after that second preseason game against the

1866
01:41:42,520 --> 01:41:45,360
Speaker 5: Green Bay Packers. It went pretty much how I thought

1867
01:41:45,400 --> 01:41:45,719
Speaker 5: it would.

1868
01:41:45,760 --> 01:41:48,920
Speaker 1: You know, when a team decides to run against the Colts,

1869
01:41:49,479 --> 01:41:51,839
Speaker 1: or for that matter, I guess from a passing standpoint,

1870
01:41:51,880 --> 01:41:54,519
Speaker 1: I mean sacks. But but if there's a tackle made

1871
01:41:54,560 --> 01:41:58,280
Speaker 1: in the interior for the Colts, the odds are pretty high.

1872
01:41:58,760 --> 01:42:00,640
Speaker 1: Matt Taylor, And you tell me if wrong here. But

1873
01:42:00,760 --> 01:42:03,240
Speaker 1: you might have as the play by play voice of

1874
01:42:03,280 --> 01:42:05,360
Speaker 1: the Colts, there might be the biggest collection of tricky

1875
01:42:05,439 --> 01:42:06,920
Speaker 1: names for you to call, right, Is.

1876
01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:12,360
Speaker 5: That right, it's it's it's definitely getting more and more difficult.

1877
01:42:12,439 --> 01:42:15,599
Speaker 5: I mean, the Colts have their fair share of tricky names.

1878
01:42:15,720 --> 01:42:20,400
Speaker 5: I mean at A Tamawata Barre and J. T. Tumolowau.

1879
01:42:21,600 --> 01:42:25,120
Speaker 5: You know in the past, uh, you know Bobby Ocaraka

1880
01:42:26,400 --> 01:42:29,799
Speaker 5: trying to think who else you know, Quity pays pretty standard,

1881
01:42:29,800 --> 01:42:30,760
Speaker 5: but he's got you know the.

1882
01:42:30,840 --> 01:42:33,600
Speaker 1: Well Dio just became Dio for that purpose.

1883
01:42:33,320 --> 01:42:37,240
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, that's cool, Dio dangbo yep, good, good recall there.

1884
01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:41,240
Speaker 5: But you know, we played the Ravens in week two

1885
01:42:41,240 --> 01:42:43,400
Speaker 5: of the preseason or week one, i should say. And

1886
01:42:43,920 --> 01:42:46,000
Speaker 5: they've got some doozies too. And I think you and

1887
01:42:46,080 --> 01:42:50,320
Speaker 5: I have talked about this before, like the game has

1888
01:42:50,360 --> 01:42:53,040
Speaker 5: just become more and more international.

1889
01:42:53,880 --> 01:42:56,559
Speaker 1: It's for sure, right, it is.

1890
01:42:56,600 --> 01:42:58,240
Speaker 5: But you know you got to be on your p's

1891
01:42:58,280 --> 01:43:02,120
Speaker 5: and q's. I mean that that phonetics pnunciation chart is

1892
01:43:02,520 --> 01:43:06,280
Speaker 5: definitely part of your weekly preparation. And you know, my

1893
01:43:06,479 --> 01:43:10,200
Speaker 5: move is to print out the depth chart. And most

1894
01:43:10,200 --> 01:43:12,160
Speaker 5: of the time, I mean people don't care about this,

1895
01:43:12,280 --> 01:43:15,320
Speaker 5: but most of the time the a in a press release,

1896
01:43:15,360 --> 01:43:19,280
Speaker 5: the team's press release, the depth chart is on a

1897
01:43:19,320 --> 01:43:22,639
Speaker 5: different page than the pronunciation guide, And so what I'll

1898
01:43:22,680 --> 01:43:25,439
Speaker 5: physically do is like I will arts and crafts it.

1899
01:43:25,479 --> 01:43:29,120
Speaker 5: I'll cut it out, I'll print it out, the pronunciation guide,

1900
01:43:29,200 --> 01:43:31,639
Speaker 5: and I will slap it, tape it onto the depth

1901
01:43:31,680 --> 01:43:34,839
Speaker 5: chart and put it in like a little lamited covering,

1902
01:43:35,240 --> 01:43:37,960
Speaker 5: and I'll have that all week long. So wherever I go,

1903
01:43:38,040 --> 01:43:40,840
Speaker 5: I've got the depth chart plus the pronunciation guide on

1904
01:43:40,880 --> 01:43:43,879
Speaker 5: it too, so that when I'm memorizing names and numbers,

1905
01:43:43,920 --> 01:43:47,720
Speaker 5: I'm also at the same time memorizing pronunciation. Because the

1906
01:43:47,760 --> 01:43:51,640
Speaker 5: game has become so much more global and international, and

1907
01:43:51,680 --> 01:43:54,040
Speaker 5: it seems like every year it just grows exponentially in

1908
01:43:54,040 --> 01:43:54,799
Speaker 5: that rega, Matt.

1909
01:43:54,680 --> 01:43:58,920
Speaker 1: Have you ever thought about listen, I can't imagine there's

1910
01:43:58,960 --> 01:44:01,799
Speaker 1: a guy for Indy car when we're on the West Coast.

1911
01:44:01,800 --> 01:44:03,639
Speaker 1: One of the guys that we used that helps out

1912
01:44:03,640 --> 01:44:06,040
Speaker 1: with us on West Coast races is Dan Rusanowski, who

1913
01:44:06,080 --> 01:44:08,320
Speaker 1: was the voice of the San Jose Sharks. Can you

1914
01:44:08,360 --> 01:44:10,880
Speaker 1: imagine doing hockey play by play? I mean, not only

1915
01:44:10,880 --> 01:44:13,120
Speaker 1: would it be a challenge in following the puck, but

1916
01:44:13,240 --> 01:44:15,640
Speaker 1: some of those names, good lord man.

1917
01:44:16,520 --> 01:44:18,000
Speaker 5: And you got to go with you gotta go with

1918
01:44:18,160 --> 01:44:20,680
Speaker 5: nicknames too. At some time, just because you got to

1919
01:44:20,720 --> 01:44:24,200
Speaker 5: get the syllables and the pronunciations out quicker to keep

1920
01:44:24,320 --> 01:44:26,960
Speaker 5: up with the action on the on the ice. And

1921
01:44:27,000 --> 01:44:29,160
Speaker 5: it's kind of the same way with football too, So,

1922
01:44:29,800 --> 01:44:32,320
Speaker 5: uh you don't you don't hear that as much in

1923
01:44:32,360 --> 01:44:36,439
Speaker 5: football just because I don't know, I'm not a big

1924
01:44:36,600 --> 01:44:39,880
Speaker 5: nickname guy. So like, you really do have to, especially

1925
01:44:39,920 --> 01:44:41,360
Speaker 5: if they play for the other team, Like you're not

1926
01:44:41,400 --> 01:44:43,640
Speaker 5: going to know right what they call, you know, a

1927
01:44:43,680 --> 01:44:46,559
Speaker 5: backup linebacker that makes a play on special teams, that

1928
01:44:46,600 --> 01:44:49,640
Speaker 5: has an international name about them, So you really do

1929
01:44:49,720 --> 01:44:52,760
Speaker 5: have to focus in on the fanatics. And I don't

1930
01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:54,960
Speaker 5: bat a thousand in that regard, but I try my

1931
01:44:55,040 --> 01:44:57,640
Speaker 5: best because that's that's your job. You owe it to

1932
01:44:57,680 --> 01:45:01,519
Speaker 5: these guys to, you know, say their name right because

1933
01:45:01,560 --> 01:45:03,240
Speaker 5: of all the time and the work and what they

1934
01:45:03,360 --> 01:45:04,679
Speaker 5: put in to make it to the NFL.

1935
01:45:05,520 --> 01:45:08,759
Speaker 1: Matt, I think we talk so much about the quarterback.

1936
01:45:08,760 --> 01:45:12,040
Speaker 1: Matt Taylor is our guest here, the voice of the Colts.

1937
01:45:12,040 --> 01:45:16,639
Speaker 1: We've talked so much about the quarterback that I think

1938
01:45:16,800 --> 01:45:20,400
Speaker 1: at times we and I'm not saying you, but we've

1939
01:45:20,479 --> 01:45:23,320
Speaker 1: neglected to really look and take a deep dive at

1940
01:45:23,360 --> 01:45:28,080
Speaker 1: some of the other positions for the Colts. Which position,

1941
01:45:29,120 --> 01:45:31,320
Speaker 1: and I don't even mean necessarily that you're saying it's

1942
01:45:31,320 --> 01:45:34,559
Speaker 1: the most top heavy in terms of talent, but which

1943
01:45:34,600 --> 01:45:37,080
Speaker 1: position room for the Colts do you think has the

1944
01:45:37,120 --> 01:45:42,000
Speaker 1: most interchangeable depth where if you go three, four, five deep,

1945
01:45:42,040 --> 01:45:44,320
Speaker 1: you're not dropping a whole lot off from where you

1946
01:45:44,360 --> 01:45:45,680
Speaker 1: were at the starter.

1947
01:45:47,280 --> 01:45:47,800
Speaker 2: Good one.

1948
01:45:49,920 --> 01:45:53,639
Speaker 5: I still think you're really strong and deep at wide receiver,

1949
01:45:54,000 --> 01:45:57,000
Speaker 5: and Shane talked about this the other day, that you've

1950
01:45:57,040 --> 01:46:02,320
Speaker 5: got really good depth the different types of receivers that

1951
01:46:02,360 --> 01:46:06,640
Speaker 5: you need to have to be successful on offense. You

1952
01:46:06,640 --> 01:46:09,559
Speaker 5: know what I mean. You got the big, tall, power

1953
01:46:09,680 --> 01:46:13,519
Speaker 5: forward types, and you know Michael Pittman Junior and maybe

1954
01:46:13,520 --> 01:46:16,160
Speaker 5: to a lesser degree, ad Ni Mitchell. You've got the

1955
01:46:16,280 --> 01:46:19,719
Speaker 5: smaller types and Josh Downs. And then you've got coleman

1956
01:46:19,760 --> 01:46:22,000
Speaker 5: Owen on the practice squad too, who, by the way,

1957
01:46:22,479 --> 01:46:24,360
Speaker 5: if I could just go on a tangent, coleman Owen

1958
01:46:24,479 --> 01:46:28,559
Speaker 5: just kicked total butt during the preseason. I was so

1959
01:46:28,680 --> 01:46:31,160
Speaker 5: happy to see him stick around because I think he's

1960
01:46:31,200 --> 01:46:33,719
Speaker 5: got a bright future. He just has the it factor

1961
01:46:34,160 --> 01:46:38,000
Speaker 5: about him. Coming out of Ohio as an undrafted free agent,

1962
01:46:38,080 --> 01:46:42,040
Speaker 5: and then got Anthony Gould in that regard to Alec

1963
01:46:42,120 --> 01:46:45,879
Speaker 5: Pierce is a bigger body receiver, but he's got speed,

1964
01:46:45,920 --> 01:46:48,719
Speaker 5: he's got the ball skills. So I think they're really

1965
01:46:48,760 --> 01:46:51,559
Speaker 5: really set and deep there at wide receiver. And you

1966
01:46:51,600 --> 01:46:55,160
Speaker 5: talked about interchangeable parts. That's kind of what I'm going

1967
01:46:55,240 --> 01:46:58,160
Speaker 5: for in terms of you know, guys body types and

1968
01:46:58,240 --> 01:47:00,400
Speaker 5: skill sets. They can do a lot of different things.

1969
01:47:01,240 --> 01:47:05,000
Speaker 5: And then I still think cornerback two in the secondary.

1970
01:47:05,840 --> 01:47:08,639
Speaker 5: You know, going into training camp, we thought they'd keep

1971
01:47:08,760 --> 01:47:11,240
Speaker 5: six and it would be a strength of the team.

1972
01:47:12,320 --> 01:47:16,280
Speaker 5: And even though it's different personnel, they still keep six

1973
01:47:17,000 --> 01:47:19,080
Speaker 5: and it's still a strength of the team, even though

1974
01:47:19,080 --> 01:47:21,240
Speaker 5: the names are a little bit different than than we

1975
01:47:21,280 --> 01:47:24,640
Speaker 5: thought they would be like a month ago. And I

1976
01:47:24,680 --> 01:47:27,720
Speaker 5: think the Colts aren't missing around there, like they understand

1977
01:47:27,840 --> 01:47:32,320
Speaker 5: completely that under lu An Arumo, in order to have

1978
01:47:32,400 --> 01:47:36,400
Speaker 5: success on defense in that style of scheme, they got

1979
01:47:36,400 --> 01:47:41,320
Speaker 5: to have playmakers and experience, high football IQ guys and

1980
01:47:41,439 --> 01:47:45,400
Speaker 5: savvy players in the back end, otherwise it just probably

1981
01:47:45,439 --> 01:47:48,880
Speaker 5: won't work. Right. So when Jalen Jones and Juju Brintz

1982
01:47:48,880 --> 01:47:51,439
Speaker 5: are banged up for like three weeks during training camp

1983
01:47:51,479 --> 01:47:54,320
Speaker 5: and you need depth, and then Justin Wally goes out

1984
01:47:54,360 --> 01:47:57,520
Speaker 5: for the season, they don't bring in just another undrafted

1985
01:47:57,600 --> 01:48:00,840
Speaker 5: rookie free agent from you know, Texas. I don't want

1986
01:48:00,840 --> 01:48:03,760
Speaker 5: to downplay anybody like that, but you get what I'm saying.

1987
01:48:03,760 --> 01:48:08,479
Speaker 5: They go bold and they bring in Xavier Howard, you know,

1988
01:48:08,600 --> 01:48:11,599
Speaker 5: like somebody that they're really familiar with that lou An

1989
01:48:11,760 --> 01:48:14,479
Speaker 5: Arumo knows really well and then has succeeded in this

1990
01:48:14,560 --> 01:48:18,400
Speaker 5: style of defense. Four time Pro bowler, ballhawk and I know,

1991
01:48:18,479 --> 01:48:21,880
Speaker 5: interception leader, all those things, like they're not messing around.

1992
01:48:22,000 --> 01:48:24,960
Speaker 5: So it just tells me that they have completely kind

1993
01:48:24,960 --> 01:48:29,639
Speaker 5: of shifted the type of cornerback that they want now

1994
01:48:29,680 --> 01:48:33,880
Speaker 5: on defense. It was kind of longer, big body types,

1995
01:48:33,960 --> 01:48:36,519
Speaker 5: and now with lou he wants to shift to your

1996
01:48:36,560 --> 01:48:40,240
Speaker 5: guys and just a focus on speed. You gotta have speed,

1997
01:48:40,680 --> 01:48:42,920
Speaker 5: and the bottom line is you have to get your

1998
01:48:42,920 --> 01:48:45,120
Speaker 5: hands on the football in this defense, otherwise I just

1999
01:48:45,160 --> 01:48:46,880
Speaker 5: don't think it's going to work. They have to have

2000
01:48:46,920 --> 01:48:53,120
Speaker 5: playmakers that get their hands on the ball with passes, defense, interceptions, takeaways,

2001
01:48:53,360 --> 01:48:55,320
Speaker 5: and I mean, you look at the names on this

2002
01:48:55,439 --> 01:49:01,600
Speaker 5: defense now in the secondary, Ward Howard, Fine them, Kenny Moore, Like,

2003
01:49:01,640 --> 01:49:04,840
Speaker 5: those four guys have combined for like over three hundred

2004
01:49:04,880 --> 01:49:08,360
Speaker 5: and forty starts, over two hundred and fifty passive defense

2005
01:49:08,400 --> 01:49:12,040
Speaker 5: to almost seventy career interceptions. Like they've got a really

2006
01:49:12,200 --> 01:49:15,439
Speaker 5: experienced secondary on paper. So now you just got to

2007
01:49:15,439 --> 01:49:17,800
Speaker 5: go out and play and hopefully that it translates into

2008
01:49:18,280 --> 01:49:22,360
Speaker 5: big impact affecting you know, the other team's quarterback, which

2009
01:49:22,400 --> 01:49:24,880
Speaker 5: they didn't do collectively on defense as much as they

2010
01:49:24,920 --> 01:49:25,840
Speaker 5: needed to last year.

2011
01:49:25,920 --> 01:49:27,360
Speaker 1: You know, Matt. One of the things I like about

2012
01:49:27,360 --> 01:49:30,160
Speaker 1: this roster is more than your fair shore of mullets.

2013
01:49:30,680 --> 01:49:32,719
Speaker 1: I think a football team needs mullets, right.

2014
01:49:34,640 --> 01:49:36,519
Speaker 5: Tyler Warren has a little bit of He's in the

2015
01:49:37,000 --> 01:49:41,840
Speaker 5: he's in the mullet category. I'm looking here, he's in

2016
01:49:41,880 --> 01:49:43,200
Speaker 5: the neighborhood of a mullet. Right.

2017
01:49:43,400 --> 01:49:46,479
Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm going off of like the preseason photos, which

2018
01:49:46,520 --> 01:49:48,960
Speaker 1: might actually be dangerous, right, I mean, you know, several

2019
01:49:49,000 --> 01:49:50,680
Speaker 1: guys might have decided to, you know, clean up the

2020
01:49:50,720 --> 01:49:53,640
Speaker 1: act if you will. Uh, there's a hold on there

2021
01:49:53,720 --> 01:49:55,880
Speaker 1: was there's a couple on the line. Here, who's the

2022
01:49:55,920 --> 01:49:58,040
Speaker 1: lineman I saw that has like a swe I mean

2023
01:49:58,080 --> 01:50:00,760
Speaker 1: I'm talking, oh, here we go and help me on

2024
01:50:00,800 --> 01:50:04,080
Speaker 1: the pronunciation of the last name Luke out of out

2025
01:50:04,080 --> 01:50:07,120
Speaker 1: of Virginia Techa Tanuda Luke.

2026
01:50:07,680 --> 01:50:10,400
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, sweet, And I think I think he might

2027
01:50:10,439 --> 01:50:12,639
Speaker 5: have I could be wrong, but I think he might

2028
01:50:12,680 --> 01:50:16,000
Speaker 5: have cleaned that up here. Okay, yeah, great, great, clips

2029
01:50:16,040 --> 01:50:17,040
Speaker 5: might have been involved in it.

2030
01:50:17,439 --> 01:50:19,599
Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, there was an I think Bordelini. Does

2031
01:50:19,640 --> 01:50:20,719
Speaker 1: Bordolini have a mullet?

2032
01:50:21,400 --> 01:50:26,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, Bordelini's got the He's got like what the oh God,

2033
01:50:26,240 --> 01:50:28,120
Speaker 5: You're gonna kill me for this. He's got like the

2034
01:50:28,160 --> 01:50:31,360
Speaker 5: Anthony Leo. Look you know what I'm saying where it's like, yeah,

2035
01:50:31,520 --> 01:50:33,760
Speaker 5: kind of tight, kind of tight on the sides and

2036
01:50:33,880 --> 01:50:36,360
Speaker 5: longer on top. I don't know what you call that,

2037
01:50:36,439 --> 01:50:38,719
Speaker 5: but it's it's kind of a young man's game for sure.

2038
01:50:39,400 --> 01:50:41,559
Speaker 1: And then lots of beards. I noticed that too, lots

2039
01:50:41,600 --> 01:50:43,200
Speaker 1: of beards. Are you going to grow a beard.

2040
01:50:43,000 --> 01:50:47,360
Speaker 5: Out, Jake? He would take me about forty forty years

2041
01:50:47,400 --> 01:50:51,240
Speaker 5: to grow a beard. It would come in pat. Yeah,

2042
01:50:49,800 --> 01:50:53,640
Speaker 5: I I I maybe a little bit of a too

2043
01:50:53,680 --> 01:50:56,000
Speaker 5: much information on Matt Taylor, but not a whole lot

2044
01:50:56,040 --> 01:50:59,439
Speaker 5: of hair going on. Yeah, like maybe one or one

2045
01:50:59,520 --> 01:51:02,120
Speaker 5: or two two chess heirs Okay.

2046
01:51:02,400 --> 01:51:04,320
Speaker 1: So in other words, if the Colts happen to have

2047
01:51:04,360 --> 01:51:06,080
Speaker 1: a game at Gillette Stadium and you're not taking the

2048
01:51:06,080 --> 01:51:07,920
Speaker 1: free handouts, that's what you're getting at. You don't need them.

2049
01:51:08,000 --> 01:51:11,559
Speaker 5: No, yeah, no, I mean luckily, for me, I average

2050
01:51:11,560 --> 01:51:14,120
Speaker 5: about two shaves a week, and I know other people

2051
01:51:14,160 --> 01:51:15,920
Speaker 5: average about two shaves a day, So.

2052
01:51:17,560 --> 01:51:20,080
Speaker 1: You're lucky in that regard. Trust me, I know, I

2053
01:51:20,160 --> 01:51:23,120
Speaker 1: know the Colts will get set against the Miami Dolphins.

2054
01:51:23,280 --> 01:51:25,120
Speaker 1: Matt In the time that you have done this and

2055
01:51:25,800 --> 01:51:29,160
Speaker 1: the NBA, I have always felt that it takes you

2056
01:51:29,240 --> 01:51:32,760
Speaker 1: about twenty to twenty five games to truly know what

2057
01:51:32,920 --> 01:51:35,280
Speaker 1: team you have and how and where you are, so

2058
01:51:35,360 --> 01:51:38,360
Speaker 1: to speak. In the NFL, that would translate to four

2059
01:51:38,479 --> 01:51:40,960
Speaker 1: games a quarter of the season. But the NFL is

2060
01:51:40,960 --> 01:51:44,320
Speaker 1: a little bit different because of the attrition that takes

2061
01:51:44,360 --> 01:51:48,440
Speaker 1: place in terms of injuries and other such things. But realistically,

2062
01:51:49,280 --> 01:51:50,960
Speaker 1: if you look at the way they open up, you

2063
01:51:51,000 --> 01:51:53,720
Speaker 1: got Miami, you got Denver, and then you go Tennessee

2064
01:51:53,920 --> 01:51:56,320
Speaker 1: and the Rams, well we have a pretty good idea

2065
01:51:56,360 --> 01:51:59,720
Speaker 1: who they are after those four Yeah.

2066
01:51:59,800 --> 01:52:02,080
Speaker 5: I'm really glad you bring this up because I think

2067
01:52:02,120 --> 01:52:05,680
Speaker 5: you're spot on because of how how different now the

2068
01:52:05,800 --> 01:52:09,240
Speaker 5: rules are in the NFL and you got to play

2069
01:52:09,760 --> 01:52:13,719
Speaker 5: by the collective bargaining agreement, and you know, the first

2070
01:52:13,720 --> 01:52:15,960
Speaker 5: couple of days, maybe the first week or so of

2071
01:52:16,120 --> 01:52:19,280
Speaker 5: camp is in pro pads and the full pads don't

2072
01:52:19,280 --> 01:52:22,800
Speaker 5: come on, and teams don't live tackle full tackle to

2073
01:52:22,840 --> 01:52:26,040
Speaker 5: the ground anymore. So it's such a good point, and

2074
01:52:26,760 --> 01:52:30,040
Speaker 5: to me, it really was driven home in twenty twenty two.

2075
01:52:30,600 --> 01:52:32,960
Speaker 5: And the reason why I say that is in twenty

2076
01:52:33,040 --> 01:52:36,880
Speaker 5: twenty two, here comes Matt Ryan and the Colts looked

2077
01:52:37,000 --> 01:52:40,040
Speaker 5: awesome in training camp, like I saw it based on

2078
01:52:40,080 --> 01:52:42,559
Speaker 5: what I saw, and they they, and too they that

2079
01:52:42,680 --> 01:52:46,920
Speaker 5: year they stayed relatively healthy and injury free in training camp,

2080
01:52:47,160 --> 01:52:49,120
Speaker 5: right there was just there was a lot of you know,

2081
01:52:49,200 --> 01:52:52,960
Speaker 5: full participation and Matt Ryan was throwing the ball all

2082
01:52:53,000 --> 01:52:56,439
Speaker 5: over the place. They looked good in the preseason and thought,

2083
01:52:56,520 --> 01:52:59,400
Speaker 5: all right, here we go. This is first AFC South

2084
01:52:59,479 --> 01:53:02,120
Speaker 5: championship since twenty fourteen. The Colts are going to win

2085
01:53:02,200 --> 01:53:05,080
Speaker 5: ten games, and then you know, we all know what

2086
01:53:05,080 --> 01:53:08,040
Speaker 5: that season was. Here here comes Jeff Saturday and Frank

2087
01:53:08,040 --> 01:53:11,479
Speaker 5: Reich was fired, and you know the Sam Ellinger thing,

2088
01:53:11,520 --> 01:53:14,040
Speaker 5: and here comes Nick Foles, like it was just a nightmare, right,

2089
01:53:14,600 --> 01:53:17,120
Speaker 5: And so like that's why I'm out of the prediction

2090
01:53:17,240 --> 01:53:19,960
Speaker 5: game because I think, not that training camp. I'm not

2091
01:53:20,000 --> 01:53:22,240
Speaker 5: saying at all that training camp in the preseason don't

2092
01:53:22,240 --> 01:53:26,000
Speaker 5: matter because they do necessary evils, they're part of the process.

2093
01:53:26,520 --> 01:53:29,600
Speaker 5: But you're just not gonna know fully, especially with a

2094
01:53:29,640 --> 01:53:32,800
Speaker 5: new quarterback that the Colts have had to use every year,

2095
01:53:32,800 --> 01:53:36,000
Speaker 5: because Daniel Jones will be the eleventh different starting quarterback

2096
01:53:36,479 --> 01:53:41,840
Speaker 5: the Colts have used since twenty nineteen. You just you're

2097
01:53:41,880 --> 01:53:45,360
Speaker 5: not really gonna know. It's almost like in some cases,

2098
01:53:45,479 --> 01:53:49,640
Speaker 5: based on the team and your circumstances, it's almost like

2099
01:53:50,200 --> 01:53:53,400
Speaker 5: the first month of the season is like an extended

2100
01:53:53,640 --> 01:53:56,280
Speaker 5: feeling out process of training camp, you know, trying to

2101
01:53:56,320 --> 01:53:58,280
Speaker 5: find out who you are, who you're not, what you

2102
01:53:58,280 --> 01:54:02,519
Speaker 5: can do, and how the best you personnel. So yeah,

2103
01:54:02,560 --> 01:54:05,519
Speaker 5: I'm out of the prediction game totally because of just

2104
01:54:06,240 --> 01:54:09,320
Speaker 5: you never really know what you got until you start

2105
01:54:09,320 --> 01:54:12,080
Speaker 5: playing regular season games. And I mean think of it

2106
01:54:12,160 --> 01:54:15,000
Speaker 5: like this. I mean for every player in the NFL,

2107
01:54:15,040 --> 01:54:16,920
Speaker 5: it doesn't matter if you've been in league nine years

2108
01:54:17,040 --> 01:54:18,920
Speaker 5: or if you're a rookie, this is going to be

2109
01:54:19,680 --> 01:54:22,599
Speaker 5: your first chance you know, a week from Sundal will

2110
01:54:22,640 --> 01:54:26,240
Speaker 5: be your your first chance in over nine months to

2111
01:54:26,360 --> 01:54:30,480
Speaker 5: play a flat out, full out four quarters of football

2112
01:54:31,080 --> 01:54:34,240
Speaker 5: and play sixty to seventy snaps in one afternoon. You

2113
01:54:34,560 --> 01:54:37,040
Speaker 5: just haven't done it in almost a year, and so

2114
01:54:37,920 --> 01:54:40,280
Speaker 5: you just don't know. You can think you have a

2115
01:54:40,280 --> 01:54:42,560
Speaker 5: good idea of like what your strengths and weaknesses are

2116
01:54:42,600 --> 01:54:45,360
Speaker 5: and things like that, but you know, as Rick Venturi

2117
01:54:45,400 --> 01:54:47,600
Speaker 5: always like to say, like opening day in the first

2118
01:54:47,640 --> 01:54:50,200
Speaker 5: week or two of the season, it's like Christmas and

2119
01:54:50,240 --> 01:54:53,280
Speaker 5: Halloween because you're excited to see, you know, what all

2120
01:54:53,320 --> 01:54:55,600
Speaker 5: your toys look like and get them all out and

2121
01:54:55,640 --> 01:54:57,240
Speaker 5: see what they can do. But at the same time,

2122
01:54:57,240 --> 01:54:59,880
Speaker 5: it's Halloween because if it doesn't go well, you could

2123
01:54:59,880 --> 01:55:00,800
Speaker 5: be in for a nightmare.

2124
01:55:01,200 --> 01:55:03,320
Speaker 1: By the way, for Halloween, when you were a kid,

2125
01:55:03,360 --> 01:55:06,760
Speaker 1: Matt Taylor, did you do when you were trick or treating?

2126
01:55:06,800 --> 01:55:09,400
Speaker 1: Did you go with the plastic pumpkin or were you

2127
01:55:09,480 --> 01:55:10,400
Speaker 1: a pillowcase guy?

2128
01:55:11,800 --> 01:55:11,880
Speaker 2: Uh?

2129
01:55:12,040 --> 01:55:14,480
Speaker 5: Well, the later year is definitely a pillowcase because it

2130
01:55:15,080 --> 01:55:17,680
Speaker 5: gave you more space, you know, some more flexibility. You

2131
01:55:17,720 --> 01:55:18,240
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying.

2132
01:55:18,280 --> 01:55:20,600
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

2133
01:55:20,320 --> 01:55:22,240
Speaker 5: I think that Jerry Seinfeld bit I don't know if

2134
01:55:22,240 --> 01:55:23,720
Speaker 5: you've ever seen that. You know, you get in the

2135
01:55:23,760 --> 01:55:26,360
Speaker 5: later years, you're going through the motions, you know, you

2136
01:55:26,480 --> 01:55:28,840
Speaker 5: ring the doorbell, you're like bing bong, and they're like, oh,

2137
01:55:28,880 --> 01:55:30,480
Speaker 5: what are you supposed to be? It's like I'm supposed

2138
01:55:30,520 --> 01:55:32,640
Speaker 5: to be done by now? All right, we hit.

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01:55:34,680 --> 01:55:38,720
Speaker 1: Here's the thing I always thought was weird when it

2140
01:55:38,720 --> 01:55:41,040
Speaker 1: came to trick or treating Matt and and rest a shirt.

2141
01:55:41,080 --> 01:55:47,440
Speaker 1: We'll probably revisit this conversation in October. But the last

2142
01:55:47,600 --> 01:55:50,720
Speaker 1: year or two that you trick or treated, you felt

2143
01:55:50,800 --> 01:55:54,480
Speaker 1: the societal pressure to act like you were supposed to

2144
01:55:54,840 --> 01:55:57,040
Speaker 1: not care anymore, but deep down you never wanted to

2145
01:55:57,040 --> 01:55:58,800
Speaker 1: stop doing it. Do you agree with that?

2146
01:56:00,400 --> 01:56:03,920
Speaker 5: No? I mean I was, I think I I think

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01:56:03,920 --> 01:56:06,880
Speaker 5: I tried to relay that to the friends too, like,

2148
01:56:06,920 --> 01:56:09,240
Speaker 5: you know, hey, guys, look, you know we're going into

2149
01:56:09,320 --> 01:56:11,920
Speaker 5: eighth grade or whatever it was like seventh eighth grade.

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01:56:11,960 --> 01:56:14,440
Speaker 1: That's about right, that's about the time period, right, Yeah,

2151
01:56:14,480 --> 01:56:14,800
Speaker 1: you don't.

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01:56:14,840 --> 01:56:16,720
Speaker 5: I don't think you'd do it in high school like

2153
01:56:16,800 --> 01:56:19,680
Speaker 5: you're you know, when you when you get your learners permit,

2154
01:56:19,760 --> 01:56:21,960
Speaker 5: you probably shouldn't be trick or treating anymore. You know

2155
01:56:21,920 --> 01:56:22,480
Speaker 5: what I'm saying.

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01:56:22,640 --> 01:56:25,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, now people get their learners permit at the

2157
01:56:25,160 --> 01:56:27,760
Speaker 1: age of like twenty four. Have you noticed that?

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01:56:27,760 --> 01:56:30,680
Speaker 5: That's right. So it's a weird thing too, right, things

2159
01:56:30,720 --> 01:56:32,840
Speaker 5: are a little bit different there. But yeah, I mean

2160
01:56:33,160 --> 01:56:34,680
Speaker 5: I think I knew at the back of my mind,

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01:56:34,840 --> 01:56:37,240
Speaker 5: like hey, you know, stop and kind of appreciate this.

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01:56:37,400 --> 01:56:40,200
Speaker 5: And I've always had just like this weird ability to

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01:56:40,320 --> 01:56:44,600
Speaker 5: like sort of like stop and understand like the presence

2164
01:56:44,640 --> 01:56:45,880
Speaker 5: of where you are and stuff. You know.

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01:56:45,960 --> 01:56:48,680
Speaker 1: You also, you also were the only fifth grader in

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01:56:49,120 --> 01:56:50,680
Speaker 1: like whatever year, what year would you have been in

2167
01:56:50,720 --> 01:56:51,520
Speaker 1: fifth grade.

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01:56:51,240 --> 01:56:56,760
Speaker 5: Matt, Like nineteen ninety four.

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01:56:56,840 --> 01:56:58,880
Speaker 1: Okay, so you were the only fifth grader in nineteen

2170
01:56:58,960 --> 01:57:01,760
Speaker 1: ninety four that actually completely content with a foreign or

2171
01:57:01,800 --> 01:57:04,760
Speaker 1: forty five, you know what I mean, Like somebody somebody

2172
01:57:04,880 --> 01:57:06,920
Speaker 1: got a Reo Speedwagon tips and they're like, a cool,

2173
01:57:07,000 --> 01:57:08,480
Speaker 1: let's come back to that house, you know.

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01:57:08,680 --> 01:57:10,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's go back to the guy giving out fog

2175
01:57:10,760 --> 01:57:11,560
Speaker 5: hat forty five.

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01:57:12,560 --> 01:57:16,320
Speaker 1: Hey, let's end with this with Daniel Jones in quarterback now.

2177
01:57:16,360 --> 01:57:20,080
Speaker 1: And we've talked plenty about that decision. But in terms

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01:57:20,160 --> 01:57:24,480
Speaker 1: of the scheme of what Shane Steichen offensively may be

2179
01:57:24,640 --> 01:57:27,480
Speaker 1: able to do with Daniel Jones that he did or

2180
01:57:27,520 --> 01:57:32,320
Speaker 1: did not do with Anthony Richardson. The style that we're

2181
01:57:32,320 --> 01:57:35,560
Speaker 1: going to see or the players that may most benefit

2182
01:57:35,600 --> 01:57:40,440
Speaker 1: from Daniel Jones there they will stylistically look different offensively

2183
01:57:40,640 --> 01:57:41,280
Speaker 1: in what way?

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01:57:43,000 --> 01:57:47,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know, it's a good question, you know, Stylistically,

2185
01:57:48,400 --> 01:57:50,840
Speaker 5: I think one of the one of the reasons, not

2186
01:57:51,000 --> 01:57:54,200
Speaker 5: the main reason. I mean, I think Chris and Shane

2187
01:57:54,200 --> 01:57:55,640
Speaker 5: will be able to give you a better answer, but

2188
01:57:55,800 --> 01:57:58,280
Speaker 5: just my gut feeling on the matter is one of

2189
01:57:58,360 --> 01:58:01,440
Speaker 5: the reasons why they want to to pursue Daniel Jones

2190
01:58:01,480 --> 01:58:05,640
Speaker 5: as an option in free agencies because aesthetically, the offense

2191
01:58:05,800 --> 01:58:09,840
Speaker 5: doesn't have to change between he and Anthony Richardson, no

2192
01:58:09,920 --> 01:58:13,040
Speaker 5: matter who won that job when the quarterback battle started

2193
01:58:13,640 --> 01:58:17,440
Speaker 5: back back in April, and that's important for the rest

2194
01:58:17,480 --> 01:58:19,480
Speaker 5: of the guys on offense. They don't have to kind

2195
01:58:19,480 --> 01:58:21,520
Speaker 5: of change in flip flop mindset. I mean, it's not

2196
01:58:21,560 --> 01:58:24,640
Speaker 5: like going from Anthony Richardson to Joe Flacco. I mean,

2197
01:58:24,680 --> 01:58:27,880
Speaker 5: one guy, no hyperbole, is the most athletic quarterback in

2198
01:58:27,920 --> 01:58:31,240
Speaker 5: the history of the game, versus another one who's got

2199
01:58:31,360 --> 01:58:33,520
Speaker 5: you know, pretty much at this point in his career

2200
01:58:34,080 --> 01:58:38,200
Speaker 5: a very very limited ability to be mobile in the pocket,

2201
01:58:38,560 --> 01:58:41,120
Speaker 5: so you don't have to change everything up for everybody

2202
01:58:41,120 --> 01:58:45,000
Speaker 5: else on the roster, which is important. And certainly I

2203
01:58:45,000 --> 01:58:48,080
Speaker 5: don't think you're going to see as many design runs

2204
01:58:48,080 --> 01:58:51,080
Speaker 5: for Daniel Jones throughout the course of a game as

2205
01:58:51,120 --> 01:58:53,280
Speaker 5: you would for Anthony Richardson, But I still think you're

2206
01:58:53,320 --> 01:58:56,120
Speaker 5: going to see some. And I still think it's important

2207
01:58:56,120 --> 01:59:00,520
Speaker 5: for him to have the threats of you know, pulling

2208
01:59:00,520 --> 01:59:03,879
Speaker 5: a red zone or read option and running off tackle

2209
01:59:04,280 --> 01:59:07,200
Speaker 5: and reading that defensive end to keep the defense honest,

2210
01:59:07,840 --> 01:59:10,120
Speaker 5: because I think that has to be part of you know,

2211
01:59:10,160 --> 01:59:13,960
Speaker 5: your playbook and part of your your weekly routine to

2212
01:59:14,040 --> 01:59:17,680
Speaker 5: keep the defense honest. And then secondly, you know, somebody

2213
01:59:17,680 --> 01:59:19,840
Speaker 5: asked me earlier, Hey, is this going to be all right?

2214
01:59:19,920 --> 01:59:22,400
Speaker 5: Is Daniel Jones now the quarterback? Is this going to

2215
01:59:22,440 --> 01:59:25,680
Speaker 5: be like Gardner Minshew twenty twenty three? And no, I

2216
01:59:25,720 --> 01:59:28,960
Speaker 5: don't think it will be at all because Gardner he

2217
01:59:29,080 --> 01:59:33,000
Speaker 5: was really accurate and efficient. But a lot of times

2218
01:59:33,000 --> 01:59:35,160
Speaker 5: with Gardner, you know, kind of the knock on that

2219
01:59:35,360 --> 01:59:37,200
Speaker 5: was it was like playing on a fifteen to twenty

2220
01:59:37,280 --> 01:59:39,680
Speaker 5: yards field. You know what I mean, like if the

2221
01:59:39,720 --> 01:59:42,640
Speaker 5: defense could stack the box and load up to stop

2222
01:59:42,680 --> 01:59:45,120
Speaker 5: the running game. In Johnson Taylor, the Colts had a

2223
01:59:45,120 --> 01:59:48,760
Speaker 5: hard time of winning downfield and outside the numbers. With

2224
01:59:48,960 --> 01:59:51,000
Speaker 5: Daniel Jones, he's still going to be able to push

2225
01:59:51,000 --> 01:59:55,200
Speaker 5: the ball, and they're emphasizing that it's hard to I mean,

2226
01:59:55,200 --> 01:59:57,760
Speaker 5: you've got to have that inside your offense. It's hard

2227
01:59:57,840 --> 02:00:01,120
Speaker 5: to go on ten twelve play scoring. There's a lot

2228
02:00:01,160 --> 02:00:04,040
Speaker 5: of things that can fubar drive, right, I mean, you

2229
02:00:04,080 --> 02:00:06,480
Speaker 5: could have a pre snap penalty, you could have a

2230
02:00:06,560 --> 02:00:08,760
Speaker 5: sack that takes you out of you know, down in

2231
02:00:08,840 --> 02:00:11,400
Speaker 5: distance favorably. There's just a lot of things that can

2232
02:00:11,440 --> 02:00:14,800
Speaker 5: derail a methodical drive. In the NFL, man, I think

2233
02:00:14,840 --> 02:00:19,160
Speaker 5: there's two things that statistically, you know, go play a

2234
02:00:19,200 --> 02:00:22,600
Speaker 5: long go a long way in deciding who wins games.

2235
02:00:22,680 --> 02:00:25,720
Speaker 5: First one is turnovers, right, who wins the turnover battle?

2236
02:00:25,920 --> 02:00:28,400
Speaker 5: And the second one is more often than not, the

2237
02:00:28,440 --> 02:00:30,880
Speaker 5: team that has more big plays than the other wins

2238
02:00:30,920 --> 02:00:33,200
Speaker 5: the game. And so the Colts know that they need

2239
02:00:33,240 --> 02:00:37,000
Speaker 5: to generate just as many big plays with Daniel Jones

2240
02:00:37,720 --> 02:00:40,520
Speaker 5: as they would have with Anthony Richardson, and he can

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02:00:40,560 --> 02:00:43,000
Speaker 5: do it. And that's where Pierce comes into play. It's

2242
02:00:43,040 --> 02:00:46,040
Speaker 5: where ad Ni Mitchell comes into play. And certainly they

2243
02:00:46,040 --> 02:00:47,840
Speaker 5: have to feast in the middle of the field more

2244
02:00:47,840 --> 02:00:50,440
Speaker 5: often this year than they did last year with Tyler

2245
02:00:50,480 --> 02:00:52,920
Speaker 5: Warren and the rest of those tight ends. And I

2246
02:00:52,960 --> 02:00:56,560
Speaker 5: think just with his overall body of work and you know,

2247
02:00:56,680 --> 02:00:59,560
Speaker 5: career accuracy, that Daniel Jones is going to be able

2248
02:00:59,560 --> 02:01:03,160
Speaker 5: to do those things. Be consistent, be efficient on offense,

2249
02:01:03,240 --> 02:01:06,000
Speaker 5: but also tap into those chunk plays that you have

2250
02:01:06,080 --> 02:01:09,680
Speaker 5: to have that helps mitigate, you know, mitigate scoring and

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02:01:09,720 --> 02:01:12,240
Speaker 5: makes the offense hum and become more efficient.

2252
02:01:12,360 --> 02:01:14,720
Speaker 1: All right, last question, it's the most important of all.

2253
02:01:15,600 --> 02:01:19,200
Speaker 1: Nineteen ninety three, third grade Matt Taylor's trick or treating

2254
02:01:19,240 --> 02:01:22,320
Speaker 1: gets to a house, rings the doorbell. Guy answers the

2255
02:01:22,360 --> 02:01:24,800
Speaker 1: door and says, listen, I got no candy left. I

2256
02:01:24,800 --> 02:01:27,000
Speaker 1: apologize you're late to the party. I got no candy.

2257
02:01:27,040 --> 02:01:29,440
Speaker 1: But what I do have is I have inside of

2258
02:01:29,440 --> 02:01:35,240
Speaker 1: my garage. Here instill the plastic casing of it. The

2259
02:01:35,320 --> 02:01:39,040
Speaker 1: helmet of every opponent of the Colts. Twenty twenty five schedule.

2260
02:01:39,440 --> 02:01:42,600
Speaker 1: The Miami Dolphins of Denver, Broncos, the Tennessee Titans, the Rams,

2261
02:01:42,640 --> 02:01:48,400
Speaker 1: the Raiders, the Arizona Cardinals, the Chargers, the Steelers, the Falcons,

2262
02:01:48,480 --> 02:01:52,600
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, the Seahawks, the Texans. Obviously wouldn't know what

2263
02:01:52,600 --> 02:01:55,400
Speaker 1: the Texans are, but bear with me, suspend reality here.

2264
02:01:55,680 --> 02:01:58,560
Speaker 1: You get to pick one of them as little kid

2265
02:01:58,600 --> 02:02:01,080
Speaker 1: Matt Taylor, simply because you think it would be the

2266
02:02:01,080 --> 02:02:03,960
Speaker 1: coolest one to sit on your bookshelf in your bedroom,

2267
02:02:04,000 --> 02:02:06,600
Speaker 1: because you can't deny that it's just one badass helmet

2268
02:02:06,680 --> 02:02:07,280
Speaker 1: you go with who?

2269
02:02:09,560 --> 02:02:11,240
Speaker 5: Well, first of all, you want me to go in

2270
02:02:11,280 --> 02:02:13,320
Speaker 5: a stranger's house when I'm nine years old.

2271
02:02:13,920 --> 02:02:16,200
Speaker 1: Your parents are with You're being chaparone.

2272
02:02:16,200 --> 02:02:18,120
Speaker 5: Oh, my dad's with me, all right?

2273
02:02:18,160 --> 02:02:19,040
Speaker 2: Good?

2274
02:02:19,080 --> 02:02:21,040
Speaker 5: Does my dad know the guy like your.

2275
02:02:20,960 --> 02:02:23,880
Speaker 1: Dad knows the guys. It's Eddie White, actually, and these

2276
02:02:23,880 --> 02:02:25,720
Speaker 1: are all from back when he worked at the Logo seven.

2277
02:02:25,800 --> 02:02:27,560
Speaker 1: And then he tells you about Dan Marino for twenty

2278
02:02:27,560 --> 02:02:28,600
Speaker 1: minutes and then you get to leave.

2279
02:02:30,280 --> 02:02:33,840
Speaker 5: I'd like to listen to those stories. Yeah, I probably know.

2280
02:02:33,920 --> 02:02:38,600
Speaker 5: I've always been really really I've always been really drawn

2281
02:02:38,640 --> 02:02:43,800
Speaker 5: to the Kansas City Chiefs logo and their color scheme

2282
02:02:43,840 --> 02:02:47,240
Speaker 5: because my favorite color going up was red because of

2283
02:02:47,280 --> 02:02:49,720
Speaker 5: the Cincinnati Reds. You know, my favorite player was real lark,

2284
02:02:49,800 --> 02:02:51,480
Speaker 5: and so as a nine year old, I probably would

2285
02:02:51,480 --> 02:02:54,880
Speaker 5: have been drawn to the red uniform, like the simplicity

2286
02:02:54,920 --> 02:03:00,760
Speaker 5: of the logo. And two, I'm a big color contrast

2287
02:03:01,680 --> 02:03:05,880
Speaker 5: uniform guy. I like one color on top and a

2288
02:03:05,960 --> 02:03:08,840
Speaker 5: different color on the bottom when you wear the football pants.

2289
02:03:09,320 --> 02:03:11,680
Speaker 5: That's why I would love to see. And I don't

2290
02:03:11,720 --> 02:03:14,080
Speaker 5: know when and for how long they did this, Jake,

2291
02:03:14,120 --> 02:03:15,880
Speaker 5: you would know. But like when the Colts used to

2292
02:03:15,920 --> 02:03:20,560
Speaker 5: wear blue pants on the road instead of the white correct,

2293
02:03:20,600 --> 02:03:23,160
Speaker 5: I'm a big color contrast guy. So like the Chiefs

2294
02:03:23,200 --> 02:03:25,720
Speaker 5: when they at home they wear red on top, white

2295
02:03:25,760 --> 02:03:28,000
Speaker 5: on the bottom, and then I think reverse it on

2296
02:03:28,040 --> 02:03:31,240
Speaker 5: the road. So I'm a big proponent of that. So

2297
02:03:31,320 --> 02:03:33,160
Speaker 5: I would probably go to the Kansas City Chiefs for

2298
02:03:33,200 --> 02:03:33,600
Speaker 5: that reason.

2299
02:03:33,680 --> 02:03:34,520
Speaker 1: Eddie, who would you pick?

2300
02:03:35,520 --> 02:03:36,440
Speaker 3: I wasn't paying attention.

2301
02:03:36,520 --> 02:03:39,600
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. That's the most shocking part of the interview,

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02:03:39,640 --> 02:03:39,960
Speaker 1: is it not?

2303
02:03:40,840 --> 02:03:43,440
Speaker 5: Yeah? Now that's how that's how intriguing. We were just

2304
02:03:43,480 --> 02:03:44,440
Speaker 5: said not to.

2305
02:03:44,400 --> 02:03:46,720
Speaker 1: Mention, not to mention. It's it's a moot point for

2306
02:03:46,800 --> 02:03:49,240
Speaker 1: Eddie because they don't make Rode Roddelle helmets at a

2307
02:03:49,360 --> 02:03:54,080
Speaker 1: nine and three eighths, so you know it doesn't matter, right, Matt,

2308
02:03:54,120 --> 02:03:56,160
Speaker 1: appreciate the time as always.

2309
02:03:57,080 --> 02:03:59,640
Speaker 5: All right, guys, be well, have a good Labor Day weekend.

2310
02:03:59,400 --> 02:04:01,040
Speaker 1: You too, Matt Tailor the Voice of the Colts. By

2311
02:04:01,040 --> 02:04:02,600
Speaker 1: the way, reminder on that we will not be on

2312
02:04:02,680 --> 02:04:05,080
Speaker 1: the air on Monday. We will all be getting the

2313
02:04:05,160 --> 02:04:07,640
Speaker 1: Labor Day holiday off. Eddie. The question was this your

2314
02:04:07,680 --> 02:04:12,280
Speaker 1: Frisco forty nine ers. Do they play Oh, they do

2315
02:04:12,320 --> 02:04:14,880
Speaker 1: play serre with Cisco. Okay, fair enough, that's your answer.

2316
02:04:16,160 --> 02:04:17,240
Speaker 1: You know my answer right.

2317
02:04:17,520 --> 02:04:20,080
Speaker 3: Seattle Seahawks, Yes, especially.

2318
02:04:19,680 --> 02:04:22,040
Speaker 1: If it's one of those old school ones. Man, the

2319
02:04:22,080 --> 02:04:28,440
Speaker 1: Silver Seahawks helmets legit, totally legit, love everything about it.

2320
02:04:29,640 --> 02:04:32,000
Speaker 1: We need to get to an update on one of

2321
02:04:32,000 --> 02:04:36,200
Speaker 1: the most prominent athletes in the state. I'll explain next.

2322
02:04:38,400 --> 02:04:42,360
Speaker 1: Had a busy show today, talked about the Jim Mersey

2323
02:04:42,400 --> 02:04:46,400
Speaker 1: story from the Washington Post. Talked with Tom Noy from

2324
02:04:46,520 --> 02:04:49,840
Speaker 1: the South Bed Tribune. Booger McFarlane earlier, talking a little

2325
02:04:49,840 --> 02:04:54,160
Speaker 1: college football in the NFL. Mikey Rimovich, the new head

2326
02:04:54,160 --> 02:04:56,520
Speaker 1: coach at Ball State, joining us. They open up against

2327
02:04:56,600 --> 02:05:05,320
Speaker 1: Purdue coming up Saturday. An action tonight myself and Wyoming

2328
02:05:05,400 --> 02:05:07,440
Speaker 1: Roy that listens to the program probably the only two

2329
02:05:07,440 --> 02:05:09,800
Speaker 1: that are aware that Wyoming opens up tonight, but they

2330
02:05:09,800 --> 02:05:14,800
Speaker 1: do the Indiana fever we have not gotten to and

2331
02:05:14,840 --> 02:05:18,280
Speaker 1: we typically do talk about the fever pretty extensively. They

2332
02:05:18,280 --> 02:05:21,240
Speaker 1: are next in action, I believe tomorrow night in Los Angeles, correct, Eddie,

2333
02:05:22,560 --> 02:05:25,720
Speaker 1: ten o'clock a late one. You doing the pre and

2334
02:05:25,760 --> 02:05:26,320
Speaker 1: post game.

2335
02:05:26,200 --> 02:05:27,880
Speaker 3: For that, I am nine to forty five right here

2336
02:05:27,920 --> 02:05:28,440
Speaker 3: on the fan.

2337
02:05:28,960 --> 02:05:31,760
Speaker 1: To bring in some Java House coffee for you. Keep

2338
02:05:31,760 --> 02:05:34,480
Speaker 1: you up late. You know, I wouldn't mind the Wrangler

2339
02:05:34,560 --> 02:05:36,160
Speaker 1: energy they have. Give me some of that.

2340
02:05:36,200 --> 02:05:38,560
Speaker 3: I mean, I've never tried the Java House coffee. I

2341
02:05:38,560 --> 02:05:40,640
Speaker 3: mean you and Ed Carpenter wave about it, so it

2342
02:05:40,720 --> 02:05:43,360
Speaker 3: must be good. I haven't and especially if a guy

2343
02:05:43,440 --> 02:05:45,960
Speaker 3: named Ed is talking about in that high regard.

2344
02:05:46,120 --> 02:05:49,640
Speaker 1: I don't even uh, I don't even like coffee, and

2345
02:05:49,720 --> 02:05:53,360
Speaker 1: yet I find myself drinking it. But Caitlin Clark, I

2346
02:05:53,360 --> 02:05:55,680
Speaker 1: thought it was really interesting when we had on Stephanie

2347
02:05:55,680 --> 02:06:00,880
Speaker 1: White and she said that before they can get Caitlin

2348
02:06:00,920 --> 02:06:03,640
Speaker 1: Clark back in games and on the floor, that she

2349
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Speaker 1: would like to see Kitlyn Clark have five full practices,

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Speaker 1: and they really haven't had any opportunity for full practice

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Speaker 1: as a matter of fact. When she mentioned it, Stephanie

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Speaker 1: White then said, you know, the reality is that we

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Speaker 1: have only had walkthroughs. And she was very clear in saying, no,

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Speaker 1: we need like I need full practices to see just

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Speaker 1: from the endurance standpoint, in the conditioning standpoint.

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Speaker 3: She elaborated more on that Tuesday night and her pregame

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Speaker 3: media availability. Jake I believe Tony East asked her about it,

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Speaker 3: and she said, well, we're not going to get many

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Speaker 3: full practices in, but we can still, you know, put

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Speaker 3: her out there and you know, whether it's two v twos,

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02:06:53,400 --> 02:06:56,160
Speaker 3: three v three, four v fours, those kinds, those kinds

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Speaker 3: of situesh three on three, four on four, right, yes,

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Speaker 3: those kinds of situations to see how she's responding and

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Speaker 3: handling things and moving around. But she did say she

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02:07:06,120 --> 02:07:08,240
Speaker 3: hasn't gone through one of those yet. They're kind of

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02:07:08,240 --> 02:07:09,960
Speaker 3: harsh out of time though, aren't they. I Mean, I

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02:07:09,960 --> 02:07:13,680
Speaker 3: hate to say it that way, but yeah, six games left,

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02:07:13,960 --> 02:07:17,000
Speaker 3: and they flew out to La today.

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Speaker 1: And the Sparks you know La. I mean, that would

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02:07:22,440 --> 02:07:26,080
Speaker 1: seem to be another opportunity for the Fever to get

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02:07:26,080 --> 02:07:27,760
Speaker 1: a win, to go three games over five hundred if

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Speaker 1: they were to get it. Kelsey Mitchell continues to play

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Speaker 1: at a very high level, and I think when you look

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Speaker 1: at their just the overall attrition under which they've had,

2375
02:07:38,160 --> 02:07:41,640
Speaker 1: you know, to deal with everything, it's really pretty impressive.

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Speaker 1: I'm not here to carry the water, but they've had

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02:07:45,120 --> 02:07:47,240
Speaker 1: to really adjust on the fly a lot. And Kelsey

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Speaker 1: Mitchell gets a ton of credit here.

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Speaker 3: Her and Aliah Boston both Jake for the better part

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Speaker 3: of the year. Those two have been incredibly steady and

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02:07:55,760 --> 02:07:57,920
Speaker 3: the same player almost every single night. You know, we're

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02:07:57,920 --> 02:08:00,280
Speaker 3: gonna get Kelsey Mitchell walks into the Jami, She's going

2383
02:08:00,320 --> 02:08:02,600
Speaker 3: to give you twenty Eleeah Boston's going to walk into

2384
02:08:02,640 --> 02:08:05,200
Speaker 3: Jamshire to give you somewhere around, you know, fourteen points

2385
02:08:05,200 --> 02:08:08,000
Speaker 3: eight boards, a couple of assists, a block and a seal.

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Speaker 3: It's just finding the production outside of those two that's

2387
02:08:11,160 --> 02:08:11,960
Speaker 3: been the biggest problem.

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Speaker 1: ESPN, by the way, has done their annual survey of

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Speaker 1: the top one hundred players in the National Football League.

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02:08:19,000 --> 02:08:25,000
Speaker 1: Oh really, there were two. I went back, I kid

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Speaker 1: you not. I looked over and over and over because

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02:08:30,800 --> 02:08:34,200
Speaker 1: I thought to myself, I have to be skipping over

2393
02:08:34,240 --> 02:08:38,280
Speaker 1: one of the names here because there was a cult

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02:08:38,360 --> 02:08:40,720
Speaker 1: that I thought for certain would be on that list,

2395
02:08:42,600 --> 02:08:45,160
Speaker 1: and I sat there and looked over it and over

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Speaker 1: and over, and I'm like, I don't I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 1: I didn't see them.

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Speaker 3: They didn't put Jonathan Taylor on the list.

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Speaker 1: He was on there, Okay. Quenton Nelson, he was on there.

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Speaker 1: There is a third that typically is on that list.

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02:09:00,400 --> 02:09:04,400
Speaker 1: I'm certain Forrest Buckner, yes, and he was. I didn't

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02:09:04,400 --> 02:09:07,880
Speaker 1: see him on there. Fascinating. I think the Forest Buckner,

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02:09:07,920 --> 02:09:11,520
Speaker 1: like two years ago was their highest ranked player. Jonathan Taylor,

2404
02:09:11,520 --> 02:09:14,040
Speaker 1: I believe was sixty one and Quentin Nelson was sixty eight.

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Speaker 3: You want to guess the top two, Eddie, I'm going

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02:09:18,680 --> 02:09:24,360
Speaker 3: to go number one was Josh Allen. Am I right,

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02:09:25,880 --> 02:09:28,400
Speaker 3: You're number two Lamar Jackson?

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Speaker 1: Okay? Is that what you're sticking with?

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Speaker 3: I mean they should be one in two in some

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Speaker 3: regarding either flip flopped. I can see Miles Garrett being

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Speaker 3: one up there or TG Watt.

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Speaker 1: Miles Garrett was very high on the list, very high

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Speaker 1: on the list.

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Speaker 3: But I'm gonna stick with the two quarterbacks of Lamar

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02:09:49,760 --> 02:09:51,760
Speaker 3: Jackson and Josh Allen being one and two in some

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02:09:51,800 --> 02:09:58,040
Speaker 3: way shape or form. You're partially correct, So I mean

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02:09:58,040 --> 02:10:00,000
Speaker 3: it's one of them is number two or number one,

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02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:00,800
Speaker 3: and the other one's not.

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Speaker 1: Stew on it for a second. Okay, I will let

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02:10:08,320 --> 02:10:10,440
Speaker 1: you know and we will hand it off John as

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Speaker 1: part of our Love Heating and Air lovedh HVAC dot

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Speaker 1: com three one seven, three five three twenty one forty

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Speaker 1: one crossover chat. Next, the ESPN Top one hundred college

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02:10:21,520 --> 02:10:24,560
Speaker 1: football players listing. I only mention this because DeForest Buckner.

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Speaker 1: I double checked it tripled. Now is this from last year?

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Speaker 3: Checked it for the upcoming season? This is for the

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Speaker 3: upcoming season. Oh, I misunderstood. I was talking about last

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Speaker 3: year Top one hundred players in the NFL. Okay, can

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Speaker 3: I change my answer then? Okay, I will go Josh Allen. Okay,

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02:10:42,880 --> 02:10:44,720
Speaker 3: I will not go Lamar Jackson this time.

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02:10:44,800 --> 02:10:45,120
Speaker 6: Okay.

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02:10:45,960 --> 02:10:48,520
Speaker 3: I think this guy's due for a bounce back in

2433
02:10:48,560 --> 02:10:50,560
Speaker 3: some regard, just because of how he concluded the Super

2434
02:10:50,560 --> 02:10:52,280
Speaker 3: Bowl playing his worst game ever, and he's on this

2435
02:10:52,720 --> 02:10:54,000
Speaker 3: personal Vandaeta mission.

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Speaker 1: Padrick Molmes, Joe Burrow's number five, oh, Lamar Jackson number four,

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02:11:02,760 --> 02:11:07,440
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett number three, Josh Allen number two, and Patrick

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02:11:07,440 --> 02:11:11,800
Speaker 1: Mahomes is number one. Oh after the Chiefs lost in

2439
02:11:11,880 --> 02:11:13,840
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, the league's most talented quarterback will have

2440
02:11:13,880 --> 02:11:15,880
Speaker 1: plenty of motivation to showcase that he can still be

2441
02:11:15,880 --> 02:11:18,360
Speaker 1: better version of himself. Clearly, Eddie read this during the break.

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Speaker 3: I no, I've been closing out stuff so James can

2443
02:11:21,600 --> 02:11:23,840
Speaker 3: get on the board for JMV Show. Not sure I

2444
02:11:23,880 --> 02:11:25,720
Speaker 3: believe you, and I was playing a clip for you

2445
02:11:25,760 --> 02:11:26,080
Speaker 3: as well.

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02:11:26,800 --> 02:11:29,560
Speaker 1: That clip, by the way, happened last night at the

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02:11:29,640 --> 02:11:32,600
Speaker 1: US Open. I love high level tennis. I think high

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02:11:32,640 --> 02:11:35,560
Speaker 1: level tennis. I'm telling you, if you were to pick

2449
02:11:35,600 --> 02:11:40,920
Speaker 1: any sport and had the opportunity to watch it like

2450
02:11:41,120 --> 02:11:44,680
Speaker 1: in the best seats with the best vantage point, up

2451
02:11:44,680 --> 02:11:48,840
Speaker 1: close and personal, I really do think that high level

2452
02:11:48,840 --> 02:11:53,240
Speaker 1: tennis is as good as anything. I think it's perhaps

2453
02:11:53,320 --> 02:11:57,480
Speaker 1: the most underrated spectator sport. I used to love, like

2454
02:11:57,520 --> 02:12:01,720
Speaker 1: the clay courts were great. Then became the RCA Hardcore

2455
02:12:01,840 --> 02:12:05,320
Speaker 1: Championships in Indianapolis, which was always the precursor to the

2456
02:12:05,440 --> 02:12:11,520
Speaker 1: US Open. That tournament now goes to Cincinnati right before

2457
02:12:11,560 --> 02:12:15,440
Speaker 1: the US Open, and I thought I had heard a

2458
02:12:15,440 --> 02:12:17,360
Speaker 1: couple of years ago that the Cincinnati one was in

2459
02:12:17,400 --> 02:12:20,960
Speaker 1: jeopardy and it was going to and maybe this has

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02:12:21,000 --> 02:12:24,360
Speaker 1: already been announced. I don't know, like was it Savannah

2461
02:12:24,400 --> 02:12:29,080
Speaker 1: or Hilton Head or somewhere like that. But either way,

2462
02:12:31,280 --> 02:12:33,960
Speaker 1: last night in the US Open, how do you watch

2463
02:12:34,120 --> 02:12:35,440
Speaker 1: how much tennis do you watch?

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02:12:35,880 --> 02:12:39,040
Speaker 3: You know, Jake? Right about now, I'm watching more tennis

2465
02:12:39,080 --> 02:12:41,840
Speaker 3: than probably I am normally, So like I'll watch the

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02:12:41,840 --> 02:12:45,280
Speaker 3: Australian Open, I'll watch the French Open pretty much. I'll

2467
02:12:45,320 --> 02:12:49,880
Speaker 3: try to dabble on all the Grand Slams. Yeah, fair, right,

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02:12:51,720 --> 02:12:56,840
Speaker 3: So you have upcoming a match that took place or no,

2469
02:12:56,960 --> 02:12:59,320
Speaker 3: I'm sorry that the match that took place last night

2470
02:13:00,240 --> 02:13:08,760
Speaker 3: between Taylor Townsend of the United States defeated and I

2471
02:13:08,800 --> 02:13:14,920
Speaker 3: think I'm saying this right, Lana Ostapenko right, And afterwards,

2472
02:13:15,000 --> 02:13:19,520
Speaker 3: apparently this is a budding rivalry between these two players

2473
02:13:19,600 --> 02:13:23,560
Speaker 3: and us to Pinko is ranked twenty fifth, seated twenty fifth,

2474
02:13:23,840 --> 02:13:30,360
Speaker 3: Townsend unseated. But afterwards she was asked about her victory

2475
02:13:30,400 --> 02:13:34,840
Speaker 3: and some of the rivalry between the two players and

2476
02:13:34,920 --> 02:13:36,680
Speaker 3: Taylor Townsend had this to.

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02:13:36,560 --> 02:13:39,160
Speaker 2: Say, Billison, on the conversation you were having with the

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Speaker 2: Elena out there, Yeah.

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Speaker 10: I mean, you know, it's competition. People get upset when

2480
02:13:43,640 --> 02:13:46,160
Speaker 10: they lose and you can't. Some people say bad things.

2481
02:13:46,480 --> 02:13:49,000
Speaker 10: She told me, I have no class, I have no education,

2482
02:13:49,120 --> 02:13:51,440
Speaker 10: and to see what happens when we get outside the US.

2483
02:13:51,520 --> 02:13:54,480
Speaker 10: So I'm looking forward to it. I mean I beat

2484
02:13:54,480 --> 02:13:56,440
Speaker 10: her in Canada outside the US, I beat her in

2485
02:13:56,520 --> 02:13:58,360
Speaker 10: New York outside the US, so let's see what else

2486
02:13:58,360 --> 02:14:01,280
Speaker 10: she has to say.

2487
02:14:01,320 --> 02:14:05,840
Speaker 1: Okay, can you play that one more time?

2488
02:14:07,160 --> 02:14:07,360
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2489
02:14:07,440 --> 02:14:08,000
Speaker 3: Sure, can.

2490
02:14:09,800 --> 02:14:10,920
Speaker 9: With the Elena out there?

2491
02:14:11,160 --> 02:14:14,360
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, you know, it's competition. People get upset

2492
02:14:14,360 --> 02:14:17,080
Speaker 10: when they lose and you can. Some people say bad things.

2493
02:14:17,400 --> 02:14:19,839
Speaker 10: She told me, I have no class, I have no education,

2494
02:14:20,000 --> 02:14:22,320
Speaker 10: and to see what happens when we get outside the US.

2495
02:14:22,400 --> 02:14:25,360
Speaker 10: So I'm looking forward to it. I mean I beat

2496
02:14:25,360 --> 02:14:27,400
Speaker 10: her in Canada outside the US, I beat her in

2497
02:14:27,400 --> 02:14:29,240
Speaker 10: New York outside the US, so let's see what else

2498
02:14:29,280 --> 02:14:30,000
Speaker 10: she has to say.

2499
02:14:30,280 --> 02:14:36,480
Speaker 1: Apparently, when it comes to competition, apparently people say things

2500
02:14:37,360 --> 02:14:40,520
Speaker 1: without thinking, not just because they lose and the competitive

2501
02:14:40,600 --> 02:14:43,160
Speaker 1: juices are flowing, but perhaps because they won as well.

2502
02:14:44,320 --> 02:14:46,560
Speaker 3: Cincinnati, by the way, they were talking about moving to

2503
02:14:46,640 --> 02:14:47,560
Speaker 3: Charlotte Charlotte.

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02:14:47,600 --> 02:14:50,400
Speaker 1: Is that where it was Charlotte? Yes, okay, but staying

2505
02:14:50,400 --> 02:14:53,840
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati outside of the US. Mind you, J and

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02:14:53,920 --> 02:14:55,880
Speaker 1: V is out at SIDS. By the way, My understanding

2507
02:14:55,920 --> 02:14:59,880
Speaker 1: is there's an anniversary or birthday celebration that's taking place.

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02:15:00,880 --> 02:15:02,680
Speaker 1: Heaven Hill Distillery is going to be with him as well,

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02:15:02,720 --> 02:15:04,160
Speaker 1: so that means Brent's going to be out there, which

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02:15:04,200 --> 02:15:07,400
Speaker 1: is always a fun show. John joining us now to

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02:15:07,720 --> 02:15:11,840
Speaker 1: preview what's upcoming on the Thursday show. I'm a little envious. John.

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Speaker 1: That's a pretty cool location where we find you today.

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02:15:15,320 --> 02:15:17,200
Speaker 11: Yeah, I dig it too because we get to talk

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02:15:17,240 --> 02:15:19,680
Speaker 11: it up with the love Hitting and air cross talk

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02:15:19,760 --> 02:15:22,720
Speaker 11: segment we have here LOVEDAJHVAC dot com.

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02:15:23,160 --> 02:15:23,880
Speaker 5: That is awesome.

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02:15:23,920 --> 02:15:26,200
Speaker 11: We created that because we get a little back and

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02:15:26,240 --> 02:15:28,560
Speaker 11: forth going in and SIDS. As you mentioned, Jake is

2519
02:15:28,560 --> 02:15:32,840
Speaker 11: celebrating eighty years this summer at the Legendary on the

2520
02:15:32,920 --> 02:15:36,680
Speaker 11: Square in Noblesville locations, so we thought it appropriate to

2521
02:15:36,680 --> 02:15:40,360
Speaker 11: have a tavern tour stop and that's what Heaven Hill Distillery.

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02:15:40,440 --> 02:15:41,200
Speaker 5: Brent is here.

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Speaker 11: The samples are flowing and it's one hell Jake of

2524
02:15:44,480 --> 02:15:48,080
Speaker 11: a way to get the Labor Day weekend bender off

2525
02:15:48,120 --> 02:15:51,440
Speaker 11: to a Thursday start right here. And we're just kind

2526
02:15:51,440 --> 02:15:54,360
Speaker 11: of lending the groundwork. I think initially to in ty

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Speaker 11: Shannon to join us for the entirely of the weekend

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Speaker 11: while you're in Nashville, while you're in Nashville calling room.

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Speaker 1: For a four day weekend. That's right. You know Shannon's

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Speaker 1: birthdays tomorrow, John.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well we're inside that.

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02:16:07,840 --> 02:16:08,400
Speaker 3: We got it.

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02:16:08,720 --> 02:16:10,680
Speaker 5: I got her covered, thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: All right, fair enough after birthday. I guarantee you for

2535
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Speaker 1: her birthday, she'll have a request for the J and

2536
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Speaker 1: B takeover. But let's be able the big program tonight,

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02:16:18,880 --> 02:16:20,600
Speaker 1: you and Brenn are gonna be talking about what over

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Speaker 1: the course of the next couple of hours.

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Speaker 11: Well, I thought you hit it really well regarding the

2540
02:16:26,680 --> 02:16:32,920
Speaker 11: Washington Post article about Jim Mersey, and you know, those

2541
02:16:33,000 --> 02:16:35,480
Speaker 11: were a lot of rumors and a lot of stuff

2542
02:16:35,840 --> 02:16:38,600
Speaker 11: floating around. I think at the end of it all,

2543
02:16:39,160 --> 02:16:41,280
Speaker 11: you can't take it a couple of different directions, and

2544
02:16:41,400 --> 02:16:44,800
Speaker 11: I thought one accurately so by you. You know, it's,

2545
02:16:44,879 --> 02:16:51,480
Speaker 11: you know, questioning how transparent the organization is and will be.

2546
02:16:52,200 --> 02:16:55,600
Speaker 11: I think with personal situations like that, you're never going

2547
02:16:55,680 --> 02:17:00,320
Speaker 11: to get transparency. And you know before he'd gone through

2548
02:17:00,400 --> 02:17:03,920
Speaker 11: similar situations during a better era, and then he went

2549
02:17:03,959 --> 02:17:08,400
Speaker 11: through those situations and then it ended tragically here back

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02:17:08,440 --> 02:17:11,879
Speaker 11: in May during a not so good era. So I

2551
02:17:11,920 --> 02:17:15,080
Speaker 11: think that also is dependent on how people view it.

2552
02:17:15,120 --> 02:17:18,440
Speaker 11: But you know, overall, you know, they tried to He

2553
02:17:18,600 --> 02:17:23,800
Speaker 11: tried to do a lot while also juggling the situation

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02:17:24,000 --> 02:17:27,920
Speaker 11: he was in. And it is it is nothing still

2555
02:17:28,240 --> 02:17:32,039
Speaker 11: but sad, even with that Washington Post article of this morning,

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Speaker 11: for sure.

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Speaker 1: Jake, Yeah, no question about it, and so you know

2558
02:17:36,280 --> 02:17:39,240
Speaker 1: there will be probably plenty more that will be spoken

2559
02:17:39,400 --> 02:17:42,280
Speaker 1: and said about it. But JMV and Brett will be

2560
02:17:42,280 --> 02:17:44,680
Speaker 1: out there for the next couple of hours. And that

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Speaker 1: is an awesome location in Noblesville, John, super cool location.

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Speaker 11: It is Happy birthday to Shannon Walsh. That's right tomorrow,

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Speaker 11: twenty one years. I'm telling you what. She's absolute twenty

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Speaker 11: one year old. Smoke brother.

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Speaker 1: Let me see.

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Speaker 5: You know how lucky you are.

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Speaker 11: You know how much you like Rickoberto Sanchez has nothing

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Speaker 11: on your ass.

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Speaker 5: Seriously, you got kicked the coverage like I did.

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Speaker 1: You are correct, I'm very fortunate in that regard. John,

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Speaker 1: much appreciated, well done, much appreciated. All right, we'll be

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Speaker 1: listening to John coming up just a little bit out

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Speaker 1: there at sid's in Noblesville, and yes, in fact, we're

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Speaker 1: going to dinner tonight and that's going to be the

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Speaker 1: birthday celebration. I guess what's on the sports calendar for tonight, Eddie.

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Speaker 1: Obviously tomorrow night you've got the Fever game. But tonight

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Speaker 1: there's some college football getting out of the ways or not.

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Speaker 3: There is college football tonight, jac It starts at five thirty.

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Speaker 3: A want to say, I got to pull the schedule

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Speaker 3: back up.

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Speaker 1: Look at it right here. This is the way that's Saturdays.

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Speaker 1: There's a ton of games tonight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, starting at five thirty. This is what's

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Speaker 3: on tap tonight, James, Yeah, Boise State number twenty five.

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Speaker 1: I got like a we're company to sponsor that? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know right, what's on tap?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: My thirty nine Boise State? Are you sometimes you cannounce it?

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Speaker 3: Boise State at a five point thirty. That'll be on

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Speaker 3: during Jay and V Show. In terms of Big ten action,

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Speaker 3: Rutgers is hosting Ohio tonight. That is at six o'clock.

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Speaker 3: You've got to wait a little bit. Eight o'clock on

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports One, Minnesota welcomes to Buffalo. By the way, Minnesota,

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Speaker 3: I believe was a team that yesterday that Lewis was

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Speaker 3: identified to look out correct and at nine o'clock tonight

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Speaker 3: one of the I think Marquy games on the schedule

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Speaker 3: for tonight. In terms of games, Nebraska is at Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: That game is game Man.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that game is on ESPN tonight, nine o'clock. And

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Speaker 3: also at night in the Red Hawks of Miami of

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Speaker 3: Ohio or in now to Ego Wisconsin or Wisconsin, Wisconsin,

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Speaker 3: Wisconsin nine o'clock.

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Speaker 1: A stony Brook is taken on San Diego State, which

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Speaker 1: is interesting because my understanding is Fulton and Creston were unavailable,

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Speaker 1: so stony Brook is taken on.

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Speaker 3: You know, Jake, and I am sorry. You're probably irritated

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Speaker 3: with me and mad at me for not even mentioning this.

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Speaker 3: The Pokes and the Zips seven o'clock, let's.

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Speaker 1: Go all in on Wyoming. I got my Wyoming sweatshirt

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Speaker 1: that I wear all winter long. Ready to rock and

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Speaker 1: roll for the football season, all right. Thank you to

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Speaker 1: Booker McFarlane for joining us earlier today, Tom Noy as

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Speaker 1: well Matt Taylor, the voice of the Colts, and also

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Speaker 1: we talked to Little Ball State Football Eddie, Mike.

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Speaker 3: Y Rimovich joined the program as well.

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Speaker 1: So that game ball State and Purdue coming up on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: John's up next with Brent there at SIDS and Noblesville.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back with you at noon tomorrow. And I

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Speaker 1: thank you for listening to the Quarry Company.