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Speaker 1: and absolutely gorgeous Westfield, Indiana. The morning dew is pristine,

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Speaker 1: James Boyd, the basketball looking sun rising above the barn,

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Speaker 1: I mean hashtag Indiana and training camp is officially upon.

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Speaker 1: As report day is here for the Dinanapolis Colts. We

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Speaker 1: so all week long here of course today report Day

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Speaker 1: and then practices Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. We'll be back here

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Speaker 1: Really glad that years ago they decided to change US

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I will say the first time being out here

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Speaker 3: I honestly enjoy it. You know, less traffic to better.

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Speaker 3: So got to get up a little bit earlier than usual,

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Speaker 1: Cam, thank you on site engineer. He's got to set

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Speaker 1: up locked and loaded. Mark Dydon back in studio. A

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Speaker 1: big shout out to Ken part of the Grand Park

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Speaker 1: tremendous staff here. He brings us some morning waters. He

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Speaker 1: at Report Day, basically James kind of lay of the land.

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Speaker 1: Typically about five six Colts will meet the media on

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Speaker 1: Report Day, so you will see the pictures of players

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Speaker 1: and then everything will get started at ten am tomorrow. Again,

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Speaker 1: Colt Training Camp. Gonna get under away officially practiced tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: Boy, what a gorgeous morning.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's because we're trapped in a closet doing our

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Speaker 3: almost brought the snuggie for you, Kevin, but it's the

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Speaker 5: Good morning, how you boys are doing out there?

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Speaker 2: Dging my phone usually happens that way with useless information.

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Speaker 2: Live from Westfield.

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Speaker 6: Here we are.

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Speaker 1: It's Kevin Bowen, James Boyd, Mark Dyketon, back in studio

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Speaker 1: report day for the Annapolis Colts. Kenny Moore the second

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Speaker 1: for everything. Chris Boutles beaking the media a little bit

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Speaker 1: James, No Caitlyn Clark tonight in the Big Apple, It's

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Speaker 1: Moving on to Major League Baseball, Julie Rickson's Brewers continue

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Speaker 1: to win last night in baseball, I'd say The highlights

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, that was like the first ball by Like,

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Speaker 1: By the way, I went to Fat Dans over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: I just know that Notre Dame needs to recruit a

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Speaker 1: So he has been out of the NFL for two years.

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Speaker 1: You see some of these signings. So Nahim Hines getting

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Speaker 1: I guess whatever, it would have been seventy seven. But

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Speaker 1: that's why I love the ELA mending. You get this

439
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Speaker 1: unbelievable great drama of again, it's like pick up a

440
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Speaker 1: little bit of like no, no, no, You've got to make

441
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Speaker 1: the basket for the win. There, so fail Harder with

442
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Speaker 1: a lot of Indie connections and you indie guys. Darius

443
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Speaker 1: Adams was again great last night. They advanced to the

444
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Speaker 1: regional title tonight against Carmen's Crew kind of an Ohio

445
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Speaker 1: State Flavor team. They are the defending TBT champs.

446
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Speaker 2: Again.

447
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Speaker 1: A million dollars goes the winner of this.

448
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Speaker 3: So both, well not both, but two of the Indiana

449
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Speaker 3: teams or actually all three. Did the Fort Wayne team

450
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Speaker 3: lose alway to last night Carmen Crewe or whatever. But yeah,

451
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Speaker 3: so like that's all three of them. I was that's

452
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Speaker 3: kind of rough. But I will say the theater of

453
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Speaker 3: that game last night was pretty amazing.

454
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Speaker 2: I watched it and it was it was fun.

455
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Speaker 3: I enjoyed it, and I actually think that that's one

456
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Speaker 3: of the All Star changes that was good. A couple

457
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Speaker 3: of years ago for the NBA All Star Game, the

458
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Speaker 3: Elon mending. Even though the score would get ridiculous if

459
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Speaker 3: it was still within like ten points, the fourth quarter

460
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Speaker 3: to final few minutes will get a little better to me.

461
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Speaker 1: Shout out to Clark Wade. He's here an hour early

462
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Speaker 1: for interviews. He's just gonna bully the TVs out of

463
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Speaker 1: the way to make sure that indie star has got

464
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Speaker 1: the best video.

465
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Speaker 3: He's emerged from. Uh, you know, he's just off. You know,

466
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Speaker 3: I only see him for high school games most of

467
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Speaker 3: the time. Now he's back to give us his services.

468
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Speaker 1: His greatness sounded like an unwarned shot.

469
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Speaker 2: No man, I love Clark Man. He's the best.

470
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Speaker 3: I actually see him all the time during and gives great,

471
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Speaker 3: great video coverage of high school athletics and also you know,

472
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Speaker 3: Colts and Pacers and fever and everything else.

473
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Speaker 1: Colts Combo will dominate the day, but still some Pacer chatter.

474
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Speaker 1: Alex Golden a really good interview with Chad Buchanan Pacers GM.

475
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Speaker 1: We'll chat with Alex on the other side, Kevin bow

476
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Speaker 1: and James Boyd and Westfield, Mark Dyton back in studio,

477
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Speaker 1: Fan Morning Show on a Tuesday.

478
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Speaker 2: Well ohere action, bringing us.

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Speaker 1: Back here on this Tuesday morning live from Westfield. That

480
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Speaker 1: is the Fan Morning Show report day for Colts Training Camp,

481
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Speaker 1: and the Colts will dominate the conversation really for the

482
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Speaker 1: the week here on the show. But I thought we

483
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Speaker 1: needed to sneak in some Pacers combo before we kind

484
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Speaker 1: of shift gears. I thought outstanding an interview with Chad Buchanan,

485
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Speaker 1: the setting the Pace squad Alex Golden, you hear him

486
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Speaker 1: on our airwaves a good amounts and FACI did a

487
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Speaker 1: wonderful job with the Pacers GM over the weekend. You

488
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Speaker 1: can find that out on the setting the Pace podcast

489
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Speaker 1: and to talk about that, Alex joins us right now,

490
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Speaker 1: mister Golden. Great work on that. Good morning to you, sir.

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Speaker 7: Hey, Thanks guys. You always appreciate Chad's availability to come

492
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Speaker 7: on the podcast, and I felt like this was probably

493
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Speaker 7: one of his most transparent conversations we've had with him

494
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Speaker 7: since joining the show through throughout the season, So it's

495
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Speaker 7: definitely I'm very grateful that he was able to give

496
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Speaker 7: us some insight on some things.

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Speaker 1: The answer that set out to you the most was what.

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Speaker 4: Good question?

499
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Speaker 7: I would say the one that probably set out to

500
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Speaker 7: me the most was just how open they're going to

501
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Speaker 7: be for the competition at the shooting guard spot and

502
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Speaker 7: the center position. It was, we're not committing to anything

503
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Speaker 7: other than niece Smith Siakam and them hard being our starters,

504
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Speaker 7: and everything else is kind of up for grab. So

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Speaker 7: I think that'll be very interesting to see what happens

506
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Speaker 7: at training camp. You can probably pinpoint who you think

507
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Speaker 7: the favorite are to get it, but it seems like

508
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Speaker 7: they want to look at everything before they just commit

509
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Speaker 7: to anybody.

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Speaker 1: How stunned would you be if Benedict Matherin was not

511
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Speaker 1: a starter.

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Speaker 7: I would be pretty cracy.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that answer stood out to me too. Man.

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Speaker 1: He said that, I'm like, wait, I mean, yeah, I

515
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Speaker 1: just I don't see I guess I can't see another

516
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Speaker 1: starter in there, but I.

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Speaker 6: Mean who knows.

518
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, And that's that's the thing, because I

519
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Speaker 7: thought when Rick said it, maybe he was just not

520
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Speaker 7: thinking about what he was saying in terms of like

521
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Speaker 7: not committing to the two guard. But Rick is pretty

522
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Speaker 7: you know, you know, honest about how he feels about things.

523
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Speaker 7: So I was like, maybe maybe he was just talking

524
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Speaker 7: didn't think too much about it. But when Chad kind

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Speaker 7: of doubled down and I said, okay, I think there's

526
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Speaker 7: a lot that's.

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Speaker 8: In play here.

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Speaker 7: Obviously, just because mathin contract year, I think that plays

529
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Speaker 7: a factor into it. Not wanting to you know, maybe

530
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Speaker 7: maybe give him something before he earns it and kind

531
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Speaker 7: of give him a little bit more of a chip

532
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Speaker 7: on his shoulder that could be more of the motivation.

533
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Speaker 7: But if he doesn't, if he doesn't start, I will

534
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Speaker 7: be flabbergasted by who they're going to put in there,

535
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Speaker 7: because I just don't think they'll have enough scoring.

536
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Speaker 3: Well, we got a flabbergasted at seven thirty six in

537
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Speaker 3: the morning. That is quite the word that Alex goes in.

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Speaker 3: I do want to get one more in on Bendict matherin,

539
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Speaker 3: why do you think there is perhaps the hesitation to

540
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Speaker 3: give him that title, Like what things do you want

541
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Speaker 3: to see from him? Or perhaps the team should like

542
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Speaker 3: to see from him as he goes into another season

543
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Speaker 3: where obviously it would be pivotal for him and the

544
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Speaker 3: team to see if.

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Speaker 2: He's a dude and can be a dude every single night.

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Speaker 7: Well, yeah, I think part of it too is, like

547
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Speaker 7: we've heard so many people say with Halliburton, now you

548
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Speaker 7: got to get the keys to matter, and this is

549
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Speaker 7: the great opportunity for him to prove his words and

550
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Speaker 7: and I don't think they want to do that specifically.

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Speaker 8: I think they kind of.

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Speaker 7: Have like their you know, hierarchy in terms of Fiak,

553
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Speaker 7: I'm kind of being they, And then they seem to

554
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Speaker 7: really have given them hart a ton of responsibility now

555
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Speaker 7: taken over for Tyresi's spot at the point CERD. I

556
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Speaker 7: mean when Chad mentioned that him and nem Marden Siaka

557
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Speaker 7: met with him for dinner and the front office and

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Speaker 7: the coaching staff just to kind of.

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Speaker 8: Talk about what their roles are going to be going

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Speaker 8: into the season.

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Speaker 7: To me, it kind of says, Okay, youre are two guys.

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Speaker 7: And I think that might be where they're trying to

563
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Speaker 7: keep that relationship with Matheren, like Okay, you know you

564
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Speaker 7: got to earn this.

565
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Speaker 8: You haven't earned it yet.

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Speaker 7: I think he was kind of up and down in

567
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Speaker 7: the playoffs. Still, I wasn't in love with his overall performance,

568
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Speaker 7: but I think I mean, he was pretty good overall,

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Speaker 7: but there was some moments where he was just kind

570
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Speaker 7: of like he disappeared. So I think they want him

571
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Speaker 7: to earn it and not just give it to him.

572
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Speaker 7: And also, I think it's the contract here, because the

573
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Speaker 7: moment you give him a starting spot, now he's going

574
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Speaker 7: to be asking for starters money and that makes it

575
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Speaker 7: even more of a sticky situation when it comes to

576
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Speaker 7: bringing Haliburton back and what you do with the rest

577
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Speaker 7: of the rosters. So I think that also plays a

578
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Speaker 7: factor into what they're kind of wanting from Matron as well.

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Speaker 3: They put him at the kids table, and so when

580
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Speaker 3: you when you're when you're do you finish eating your

581
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Speaker 3: the balls, you can come, you know, sit with us.

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Speaker 1: He's been in the kids table a lot I think

583
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Speaker 1: give a career setting the paces the podcast, Alex Olden

584
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Speaker 1: does a wonderful job with that. Chad Buchanan was the

585
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Speaker 1: guest and a really really good listen. A couple of

586
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Speaker 1: other things that stood out to me. One the medical exemption.

587
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Speaker 1: If I have the phrasing right for Tyrese Halliburton that

588
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Speaker 1: news item Chad shared with you. The Pacers applied for

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Speaker 1: that and got it. Could you explain to our audience,

590
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Speaker 1: I guess how that works and if you think the

591
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Speaker 1: Pacers will then use that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, So they applied for a disabled player exception, which

593
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Speaker 7: means that Tyres won't be able to play all season long,

594
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Speaker 7: and they were granted that, and so I believe it's

595
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Speaker 7: like basically the equivalent of the mid level exception is

596
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Speaker 7: what they could use to bring a player in at

597
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Speaker 7: that amount of money. However, it does kind of against

598
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Speaker 7: their salary in their cap and they don't open up

599
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Speaker 7: a roster spot with Halliburton basically not playing for the year,

600
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Speaker 7: which I think is kind of interesting. So now they

601
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Speaker 7: kind of have to navigate only being able to keep

602
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Speaker 7: fourteen guys on the roster. I can actually play because

603
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Speaker 7: Haliburton counts as one of those fifteenth spots, and so

604
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Speaker 7: now that kind of does put a bit of a

605
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Speaker 7: crunch on what they want to do with their rosters.

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Speaker 8: So they could bring.

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Speaker 7: Somebody in, but right now I think they already have

608
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Speaker 7: their fifteen man roster kind of set up, besides Tony Bradley,

609
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Speaker 7: who is on a non guaranteed contract, which Chad mentioned

610
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Speaker 7: probably three or four times that that contract is not

611
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Speaker 7: guaranteed and that they could make a move by you know,

612
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Speaker 7: cutting him after camp or whatnot. So I think that's

613
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Speaker 7: something to keep an eye on as well. But the

614
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Speaker 7: Pacers could go out there, somebody becomes available on the

615
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Speaker 7: buyout market, they could go out there and sign somebody

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Speaker 7: into that exception as well. It just would count against

617
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Speaker 7: them and it would put them into different tax thresholds.

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Speaker 7: I think they have to be careful about that, but

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Speaker 7: they wouldn't have to use all of it. They can

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Speaker 7: just use up to I think around what the mid

621
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Speaker 7: level exception is, which is around fifteen million dollars.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting he mentioned how much he

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Speaker 1: thinks Pascal Siakam could and will be affected by the

624
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Speaker 1: loss of Tyrese Halibert. I just kind of naturally look

625
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Speaker 1: at obviously them hard. He's slidned over to point guard

626
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Speaker 1: duties for eighty two nights out of the year. Certainly

627
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Speaker 1: Matherin is gonna, you know, you would think could take

628
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Speaker 1: on more of a lead scoring role in that starting unit.

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Speaker 1: You know, Siakam seems like for the most part he

630
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Speaker 1: can be pretty much an individual creator and you know,

631
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Speaker 1: maybe not creating off the dribble per se, but offensively,

632
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Speaker 1: he's just so gifted. Did that surprise you at all?

633
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Speaker 1: You know how much he kind of pointed that out,

634
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Speaker 1: And I don't know, I guess age and kind of

635
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Speaker 1: managing workload was an answer for why Chad offered, you know,

636
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Speaker 1: Pascal as that answer, but that that stood out to

637
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Speaker 1: me a little bit.

638
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 7: Yeah, it did to me a little bit too. But

639
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Speaker 7: I also think, like ty Reech, just he does so

640
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Speaker 7: much in terms of like what the other team focuses on,

641
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Speaker 7: and so now all that tension is probably gonna put

642
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 7: on Siakam even more so. So I think it's gonna

643
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 7: make it a little bit more challenging for him, but

644
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Speaker 7: just playing a different style, because I think that's what

645
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:43,719
Speaker 7: it really comes down to, that I don't know how

646
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Speaker 7: they're going to be able to play Halliburton basketball without Halliburton,

647
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Speaker 7: and I'm curious how they're going to have to try

648
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Speaker 7: to like change that because you know, Chad brought it

649
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Speaker 7: up too. You're used to having two ballhandlers on the

650
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Speaker 7: court at all time with with them Hard and Tyreeves,

651
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Speaker 7: and then when TJ comes in a certain things, you know,

652
00:27:58,640 --> 00:27:59,919
Speaker 7: certain times it's.

653
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Speaker 8: Just you don't have that option.

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Speaker 9: Now.

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Speaker 7: Now you basically just have one table setter in them

656
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Speaker 7: Hard and everybody else, you know, it is not used

657
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Speaker 7: to doing that. So I think that's going to change

658
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Speaker 7: a lot in terms of their style of play, but

659
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 7: it could also open up opportunities for other guys to

660
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 7: maybe take on some of that role a little bit

661
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 7: if they want to play that style. But yeah, I

662
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 7: just think with Pascal, like you know, they said that

663
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Speaker 7: they want to win. They committed to him by saying, hey,

664
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Speaker 7: we're going to try to win this year. We're not

665
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Speaker 7: taking this year off. It's not a gap year for us,

666
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Speaker 7: and so they're going to do whatever they can to

667
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 7: you know, make sure that they're winning at the highest

668
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 7: level next year even without Tyres and a lot of

669
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Speaker 7: that's going to be putting on Pascal shoulders to just

670
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Speaker 7: kind of carry the sload.

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Speaker 3: One of the things that set out to me from

672
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Speaker 3: your conversation with Chad was, you know, obviously him and

673
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Speaker 3: really the entire team, the least the front off of

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Speaker 3: people we've talked to this summer about Isaiah Jackson. They're

675
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 3: very high on him, and I think they proved it

676
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 3: with his contract. I was a little surprised that he

677
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 3: got that much money coming off the Achilles tear, But

678
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Speaker 3: you know, your thoughts on Chad's you know, assessment of

679
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 3: him and how he could fit into that center rotation.

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00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think they feel pretty good about, you know,

681
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 7: what he brings to the table. Obviously a little bit

682
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 7: different than Miles because he's not a you know, an

683
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 7: outside threat. But they talked to we I know, I

684
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Speaker 7: asked him about adding weight and looking like he's put

685
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Speaker 7: off My twenty.

686
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 3: Thirty's so different. He looks like a superhero now, geez,

687
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 3: And they said.

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Speaker 7: That's kind of been the goal the whole time, is

689
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Speaker 7: to get him to keep adding weight. But during this

690
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 7: he wasn't able to do much with his leg work,

691
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,479
Speaker 7: no cardio, and so all of it looked bulkier up

692
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 7: top because he wasn't able to do cardio, which I

693
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 7: was interesting, and then he you know mentioned now that

694
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Speaker 7: he's been running a little bit more, he's already lost

695
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 7: some of that weight. So I'd be kind of curious

696
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 7: to see what his actual you know, body type is

697
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 7: coming into training camp, just because he looked really bulky

698
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 7: and some of those pictures. I know Tony had a

699
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Speaker 7: video as well. I mean, he just looked bigger, and

700
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Speaker 7: so that was, you know, interesting to me because he's

701
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 7: gonna have to take a lot more wear and tear

702
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 7: being the starting five. But I think you know, Chad

703
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 7: basically just said like they like his rebounding and his defense,

704
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Speaker 7: and I think they feel pretty good about how he

705
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Speaker 7: can fit in because he's one of the only guys

706
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Speaker 7: that's been here this whole time with Rick Carlile knows

707
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Speaker 7: this system in and out. So I think that's going

708
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Speaker 7: to play to his favor as well.

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Speaker 3: We're just picturing Alex Golden like a clipboard, like a

710
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 3: stop watch, you know, when training camp begins, if Isiah

711
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Speaker 3: Jackson is out there, like all right, what are you

712
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 3: weighing in that young man?

713
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Speaker 2: Are going to the beach?

714
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 3: Yeah here, you know, go do some down and backs

715
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Speaker 3: For me is let's see how he's looking. You know,

716
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Speaker 3: he might have to drop five pounds or whatever.

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Speaker 1: Setdy the Face is the podcast, Alex Golden, great work

718
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Speaker 1: with Chad Buchanan.

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Speaker 2: Last one from me. It just seems like we won't

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Speaker 2: get an answer, and.

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Speaker 1: So I will ask it to you. You asked the

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Speaker 1: question very directly. I thought it was a question that

723
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Speaker 1: deserved to be asked. Would the Pacers have matched twenty

724
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Speaker 1: seven million for Miles Turner Chad Buchanan one of the

725
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Speaker 1: very few questions he did not answer in that podcast interview.

726
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Speaker 1: So I'll ask you, Alex, do you think the Pacers

727
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Speaker 1: would have matched twenty seven million had Miles presented that

728
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Speaker 1: to them?

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Speaker 7: I think that the last and the fact that he

730
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Speaker 7: said we would have liked the opportunity to match is

731
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Speaker 7: the answer that tells you know, they would not have

732
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Speaker 7: matched it. I think that they had their number in

733
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Speaker 7: mind and they would have like to have had the

734
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Speaker 7: opportunity to do. But that to me says, you know what,

735
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 7: we're good and so I think that he skirted around

736
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 7: that question, which I kind of expected, but I felt

737
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Speaker 7: like I had to ask it because if it's just

738
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Speaker 7: one of those things where I wanted to know, and

739
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Speaker 7: he didn't want to get into the contract negotiations.

740
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Speaker 8: But I definitely think that after all said.

741
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Speaker 7: And done, that was not going to be the number

742
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 7: they were going to give him. So I think they

743
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 7: were incredibly shocked by Milwaukee creating that cap space to

744
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 7: make that move. And so, you know, I think for

745
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 7: Miles too, Like one thing to keep in mind is

746
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Speaker 7: I think he really wanted to feel like he was

747
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 7: a bigger role than what he was with the Pacers,

748
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Speaker 7: because at times he was the fifth man on the

749
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Speaker 7: starting five, and you know, now going to Milwaukee's definitely

750
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Speaker 7: going to be starting out at least the number two guy,

751
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Speaker 7: and I think he kind of wanted that role and.

752
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Speaker 8: Wanted to embrace that.

753
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Speaker 1: One month ago was Game seven? Is that crazy thing

754
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: about one month ago tonight was Game seven June twenty.

755
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 2: That is crazy to think about.

756
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: Seriously, that's wild, wild again, I said yesterday on the show,

757
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: And Kathy Engelbert brought that up during the WNA press

758
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: conference over the weekend of you know what happens when

759
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: a series goes seven and just what that means for

760
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: your league and everything and oh boy and everything. That's

761
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: transpired since Alex, I thought it was great work.

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Speaker 8: Man.

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Speaker 1: I know I texted you that, but certainly I encourage

764
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,479
Speaker 1: people maybe at ten oh one today to dial up

765
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Speaker 1: the Chad Buchan and Setting the Pace podcast.

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Speaker 2: But a great work by you.

767
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Speaker 1: Guys, And as always, man, we appreciate the time, especially

768
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Speaker 1: early on this Tuesday morning.

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Speaker 8: Hey, no problem.

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Speaker 7: I appreciate you know, the kudos for the podcast, and

771
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Speaker 7: I appreciate Chad's transparency. And just one other thing I

772
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Speaker 7: wanted to say that he brought up that I thought

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Speaker 7: was interesting and also KP. They talked about making a

774
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Speaker 7: trade and they said, we're really you know, you know,

775
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 7: we're we're ready to make a trade if we need

776
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Speaker 7: to make one. And they even said this season, and

777
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Speaker 7: so I thought that was pretty interesting that they did

778
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Speaker 7: pinpoint this season as making a trade, which you would

779
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Speaker 7: think they might not want to do that based on

780
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 7: where they're at, but to me, I thought was pretty

781
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 7: you know, pretty telling, like, hey, they might want to

782
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 7: win a little bit more.

783
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Speaker 8: Especially if there's a guy available.

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Speaker 7: And he talked about Tyree's having a lot of time

785
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Speaker 7: on a team to play some GM forum and I

786
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Speaker 7: thought that was really interesting as well.

787
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Speaker 3: Lebron James Pacers. He heard it here first from Alex Golden.

788
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Speaker 2: They can trade all their picks, right, Alex.

789
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 7: They can.

790
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Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just throwing it out there, you know.

791
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Speaker 3: He is, you know, very fond of Tyre's Halliburton.

792
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Speaker 2: Do you have room for Bronni as well?

793
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Speaker 4: Oh? Lord?

794
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Speaker 2: With our fourteen players on the ross, I'm not so

795
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 2: sure Bronni.

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Speaker 1: Will be playing down the street, right? Would you be

797
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: playing for the.

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Speaker 2: Boom here down the street? Alex? Thank you, sir, Yeah, thanks, guys.

799
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Speaker 7: Enjoy the enjoy the training camp.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we are indeed live here at Westfield. It is

802
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Speaker 1: a gorgeous start to this Tuesday morning. Report day is

803
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: here for the Innapolis Colts. Let it be known our

804
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: first TV in the building is Wish TV. No surprise

805
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 1: there whatsoever there so duly noted for all of our

806
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: local TVs out there.

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Speaker 5: Hope you guys brought sunglasses, By the way, it looks

808
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 5: like yours getting smoked by the sun.

809
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I left mine in the car. I might have

810
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 2: to go grab them same.

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Speaker 4: I know.

812
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: I think the sun's about to be above the tent

813
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: and so maybe.

814
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 2: That will help us out a little bit.

815
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Speaker 1: Here, but yeah, thanks starting to pick up a little

816
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: bit players reporting.

817
00:33:58,840 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 2: For training camp.

818
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Speaker 1: You'll start to see some pictures, I'm sure on social

819
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: media very soon. Kenny Moore, the second among the Colts players,

820
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 1: scheduled to join us here live and again ten am

821
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Speaker 1: tomorrow first practice. James will hear from Chris Ballard at

822
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 1: noon today.

823
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 2: What do you want to know?

824
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 3: Where's Anthony in his progress? What do you expect to

825
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 3: see from him throughout this first week of training camp?

826
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 3: I also want to know about linebacker do you think about,

827
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 3: you know, potentially adding there, especially if zay Er Franklin

828
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 3: and Jalen Carlis are not available to start training camp.

829
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 2: And I I feel.

830
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Speaker 3: Like the yearly question is probably one of the first ones,

831
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 3: is just you know, how much pressure do you feel

832
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 3: to win? And do you feel any differently now that

833
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,959
Speaker 3: ownership has changed a bit and things of that nature.

834
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Speaker 2: I have to probably phrase it better than that.

835
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Speaker 3: I don't want to be rude, but I also don't

836
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 3: want to be direct and kind of pointing out, hey,

837
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 3: every year we point out your record, every year we

838
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 3: point out what you haven't done, and is this the

839
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 3: year that you know you feel a little more just

840
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 3: pressure overall to succeed because you don't have that owner

841
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,479
Speaker 3: who had an affinity for you like unlike any other owner.

842
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: I would say it's really a I thought it was

843
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: an interesting question. Larry Here on Twitter reached out and says,

844
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: what happens if Anthony Richardson surprises? Everyone has a really

845
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: good season, healthy, consistent good numbers, but for whatever reason,

846
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: they just missed the playoffs? Does Ar proving he's the

847
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: starter next season save Chris and Chain's job or is

848
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: it playoffs or bust regardless of the quarterback?

849
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 3: Ooh, that's a good question. If Ar is balling, though,

850
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 3: I think it's hard to move on from the GM

851
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 3: and the coach who brought him here. It also depends

852
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 3: on how you missed the playoffs too.

853
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:47,959
Speaker 1: I think it's a great question. Yeah, can you imagine another.

854
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 2: Year of missed playoffs and running it back for a

855
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 2: tenth year? I know, but that's what I'm like.

856
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 3: I don't think you would be safe if if Anthony

857
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 3: has a great year, like I don't think if he

858
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 3: if he has a great year, you missed the playoffs.

859
00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 3: I don't think it's an automatic. Oh yeah, well, you

860
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 3: know what, that's good enough no, I still think there

861
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 3: could be some changes there.

862
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 6: For sure.

863
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 1: We brought this up to start the show. I thought

864
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 1: JJ stank of it's from Coles dot Com did a

865
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 1: really nice job. Carli ors Gordon a piece. He really

866
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 1: kind of threw her eyes, her vision obviously. If she

867
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: is now I think the lead voice within the organization.

868
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: In regards to Richardson, she said, you know, kind of

869
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,919
Speaker 1: a short quote here, but she says here where he

870
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: is in his career and in his deal as a rookie,

871
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 1: we still have time.

872
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 2: He still has time to prove it.

873
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: She's not wrong. And I guess if I'm looking for

874
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: the analogy per se James, I don't know. It's like

875
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: a kid going into what his senior year of college

876
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: and he has no job. You got time, but time's

877
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: gonna start to tick real soon, right, Yeah, yeah, I mean,

878
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: I don't know a better analogy.

879
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 2: I don't know.

880
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: You know, a kid, bless you Cam. I'm a kid,

881
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: you know, first semester into his senior year of high

882
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 1: school and he's not sure where he's gonna go to

883
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: college like that sort of He's not wrong again. In

884
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 1: his rookie contract, it is year three of a four

885
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: year deal with a fifth year team.

886
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 2: On right him.

887
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: But as we talked about yesterday, financial decisions start now.

888
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,720
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and honestly, I look at it like this, Kevin,

889
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 3: where you know, you have so many questions about his

890
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 3: future that at some point the potential and that word

891
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 3: becomes a very very bad word, because we can't keep

892
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 3: talking about potential going into your third year. You got

893
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 3: to show us something. You got to put something down

894
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 3: on some paper or down the field. And there were

895
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 3: flashes last year, but not nearly enough to say that

896
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 3: you are going to be the guy or that it's

897
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 3: kind of figured out. So it is an interesting dynamic

898
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 3: and it's interesting to hear her talk about that. But also,

899
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 3: you know, keep in mind the one player I always

900
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 3: think of a little bit when we talk about quarterbacks,

901
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 3: and you know, timeline. Should they pay him Jordan Loved.

902
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 3: They didn't figure it out with him kind of until

903
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 3: maybe that that fourth fifth year, and they had remember

904
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 3: that they had like the two year kind of like

905
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 3: bridge contract that they did with him.

906
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 2: So in theory, you.

907
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 3: Know, could the Colts be thinking about something like that

908
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 3: if Anthony Richardson doesn't have the outstanding twenty twenty five

909
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 3: campaign that they would love for him to have.

910
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 2: I'm not so sure. So there are different, you know ways.

911
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 3: And perhaps I'm just thinking outside of the box because

912
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 3: of what I saw the Bucks to do on the

913
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 3: NBA side to get Miles Turner. But there's always different

914
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 3: ways to sort of, you know, figure out how you

915
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 3: want to approach Anthony's future. And it's not just as

916
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 3: black and white thing that I think we've made it

917
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 3: out to be, which I know people don't want to

918
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 3: hear that, you know, here at almost eight o'clock in

919
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 3: the morning, but I think it is a reality for

920
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 3: this team and you have to think about all those

921
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 3: possibilities as an NFL franchise.

922
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: I do think Colts fans will like one particular answer

923
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: that Carli or sa Gordon shared and we will hit

924
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: on that here coming up in the eight o'clock hour

925
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,439
Speaker 1: Ryan and the YouTube chat. Any connection to the Kevin

926
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: Pritchard trade talk on the non commitment to Benedict Mathern

927
00:38:55,920 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: that the two Oh, so do you put either of

928
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: those two things? I guess together of all right, the

929
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: starting two guard is up in the air and we're

930
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 1: open to trades, or do you look at it and

931
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: say Ah, they're just saying that to try and continue

932
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: to light a fire under Bendict Matherin.

933
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:23,240
Speaker 3: I think it's twofold because you don't necessarily dismiss players,

934
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 3: and now that they've dismissed him, but you don't dismiss

935
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 3: the notion of him starting right away if you know

936
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 3: he's gonna start, if you know he's a guy like

937
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 3: a Benedict Matherin that came out and you know, was

938
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 3: really and I think he's still a very good player

939
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 3: in his draft class, but he had proven he was

940
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 3: a star by now, we wouldn't even be talking like

941
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,760
Speaker 3: this about who's starting and is he going to get paid?

942
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 3: This will be a formality, the extension will probably already

943
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 3: be done by now, But since it hasn't been done,

944
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 3: I think that's always a possibility. In to trade Kevin,

945
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 3: you gotta have something that people want. I think that

946
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 3: he's still a wanted player be outside of Indiana. It's just,

947
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 3: you know, can you figure out one how to keep

948
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 3: him her? You never want your draft picks to leave,

949
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 3: but it is a possibility, I would think.

950
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: I think we have such insane expectations for top ten

951
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: draft picks, Like I know you weren't meeting this, but

952
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: you asked. You said, he hasn't proven that he's a

953
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 1: star right now, or something along those lines. Yeah, if

954
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 1: you look at the number six draft picks, I know,

955
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: the last dec I know, you can make a case

956
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 1: Bendick Matheren might be one of the best already.

957
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,479
Speaker 2: I know, like like top ten draft. I mean even

958
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 2: the six overall pick. It's just not a giving.

959
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 3: It is crazy the amount we did this years ago,

960
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:29,240
Speaker 3: Indy Star Kevin. Once you get outside of the top five,

961
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 3: your ability to find like a star, as I mentioned,

962
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 3: drops significantly signific from.

963
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 2: Five to six thousand.

964
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 3: But I say that because when they're going over money

965
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 3: and pay and all those things, they're gonna think about

966
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 3: how you might not be in that upper echelon. And really,

967
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 3: my biggest thing is not that I don't think Ben

968
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,399
Speaker 3: Mathern is a good player. My biggest thing is that

969
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 3: if you want to get back to title contention, and

970
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 3: you want to get back to you know that as

971
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 3: quickly as possible with the healthy Halliburdon. Again, as I've

972
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 3: said for a couple of weeks now, it's got to

973
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 3: be Walker or Matherin becoming a star and neither to

974
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 3: this point. I'm not saying that their bus, but to

975
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 3: this point they haven't proven it there at that level.

976
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: Could you imagine one month ago tonight, the Pacers are

977
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: in Game seven of the NBA Finals and let's just

978
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: play out of mather and trade hypothetical and one month later,

979
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: no Haliburton for this coming.

980
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 2: So Lord Turner's gone and Mathern's gone.

981
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 3: When you put it like that, it does I really,

982
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 3: I mean I can because two of the three days

983
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 3: have already happened.

984
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:28,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, it is wild. That's wild.

985
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 1: People started trickling the great Casey Valier from Colts Radio

986
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 1: in the house. Colts training camp is starting to get

987
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 1: underway again. Report day from Grand Park. We are live

988
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,439
Speaker 1: here and we are scheduled to have Kennymore the Second

989
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: join us a little bit later in the show. Practice

990
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: times will commence ten am Tomorrow, Thursday and Friday Saturday

991
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 1: afternoon as well. We got all your coverage on the

992
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: other side. What was that, carly ERSA Gordon answer. I

993
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 1: think Colts fans will like to hear. We'll share that

994
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: coming up next Paul in Westfield Home on this Tuesday morning.

995
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: We'll do that all week long here on the Phantom

996
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: Morning Show and Monday and Tuesday of next week. It

997
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: is a picture perfect Tuesday here report day for the

998
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,240
Speaker 1: colts and training camp Cannymore the second schedule to join myself,

999
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 1: Kevin Bowen and James Boyd. Thank you a cam on

1000
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: site Engineer Mark Dydon back in studio.

1001
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 2: We're right next door to the Indy eleven headquarters.

1002
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:22,879
Speaker 1: So Mark, let's go ahead and give away the pair

1003
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,240
Speaker 1: of tickets that's this Saturday night against Tulsa.

1004
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 5: Is that correct, Yes, sir, the Jaegermeister cups. So pair

1005
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 5: tickets to Saturday night at Carol Stadium. So three, one,

1006
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 5: seven seventy. We'll have tickets all week long.

1007
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 2: Boy, I could use a little shot at Yaeger.

1008
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 3: Just I was gonna say, do you only bust out

1009
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 3: the crack of the beer at CARB Day?

1010
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 2: Is that just a one time, one year thing?

1011
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 1: Honestly I thought about busting out how the Pacers won

1012
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 1: it all on that Monday morning.

1013
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 2: I think, oh, well, that would have been.

1014
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1015
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,280
Speaker 1: I went to a couple of liquor stores. I couldn't

1016
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: find the Pacers beer. I'm like so many people had.

1017
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 3: Already gonna say honestly, the demand was probably high, my friends.

1018
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 2: Demand was very high.

1019
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,720
Speaker 1: So we'll give away a pair of ticket fast fingers

1020
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 1: for that Indy eleven and Tulsa coming up Saturday night

1021
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: three one, seven, two, three, nine, ten seventy Again report

1022
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,720
Speaker 1: day here. I did think the Carl Ursa Gordon answer

1023
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: that fans will want to hear. We'll share that in

1024
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 1: just a second. Couple of news items around the NFL,

1025
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson not reporting to Bengals training camp. Adam Schefter

1026
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: had that report here just a few minutes ago. James,

1027
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: this has been a very public back and forth boys

1028
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: since Andy Bengals no shortage of entertainment here in their offseason.

1029
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: I don't think a huge surprise on that. Didn't we

1030
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 1: see this from Zach Martin a couple of years ago,

1031
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: you know, handful of days missed and then ended up

1032
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: getting it all back with this contract. So I don't

1033
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 1: think it's the end of the world. It's July twenty second,

1034
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: but I would say this one has been again, much

1035
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: more publicly back and forth than like, for example, that

1036
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: Martin one was whatever that was a couple years ago.

1037
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Bengals have a few things on their hands

1038
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 3: between that and Shamar Stewart and the stadium talks. But

1039
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 3: if you're Luinn Ruma, are you like looking at Chris

1040
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 3: ball or are we gonna do something here? You know,

1041
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 3: I got his number, you know I could call him

1042
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 3: and see, you know, how he's feeling. But I would

1043
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 3: at least, I mean, I think it's I've clearly a

1044
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 3: very long shot to ever happen, but I would. I

1045
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,720
Speaker 3: would definitely kick the tire as if I was Chris Ballard.

1046
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: By the way, shout out to Bob Gravitz right here

1047
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: in front of us. Certainly you know the name full well, Bob.

1048
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 1: An outstanding golf outing yesterday over the Country Club of

1049
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: Indianapolis raised nearly one hundred thousand for als. Just outstanding

1050
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: outstanding work by Bob and so many people involved. Obviously

1051
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: it's just a horrific, horrific disease. So great work from

1052
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 1: Bob Kravitz yesterday and company over there at CCI. A

1053
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: beautiful golf course, I must say, and a lot raised

1054
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: for als. So thank you to Bob Kravitz for that again.

1055
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: Coming up, Kenny Moore the second going to join us

1056
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 1: here in a little bit, James, we've had this discussion,

1057
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 1: certainly in the Chris ballad era, and I think the

1058
00:44:55,880 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: discussion at times has shifted to ownership. How much money

1059
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: should and will the Colts spend in free agency? That

1060
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 1: has been obviously a big hot button topic, and this

1061
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 1: year we saw really a total one to eighty. We

1062
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: saw Chris Ballard acting in ways that we've never seen

1063
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: Chris Bollard act in regards to the money spent. Really,

1064
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 1: I would say, specifically to Mooney Ward, travari'us Ward and

1065
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 1: Cam bind them. Daniel Jones contract certainly stands out number wise,

1066
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: but you know that's kind of the cost of you know,

1067
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 1: getting a what somewhat competent quarterback. I mentioned earlier JJ's

1068
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: thinking It's did a great job and his Colts dot

1069
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: com piece with Carlie ers Gordon, and in that piece

1070
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: she was asked specifically about or I should say, she

1071
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 1: brought up specifically the whole debate around free agency, and

1072
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 1: the piece reads is this. She did make it clear

1073
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 1: that the Colts won't have to choose between drafting slash

1074
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 1: developing and free agency. This is the direct quote here

1075
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 1: for Mercey Gordon. It's not an either or we have

1076
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: to do both. To me, James Boyd, I think when

1077
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: Colts fans see or hear that quote that I just shared,

1078
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: you've got the crowd standing. Ovation gift is that like

1079
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 1: the Oscars, they're all like standing. You know that gift

1080
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: that I'm talking.

1081
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 2: About, Yeah, I do.

1082
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: I might say it's about bleeping time, welcome to twenty

1083
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: first century, you know, roster building, et cetera, et cetera.

1084
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: But I think fans would be in Unison in a

1085
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: green on that.

1086
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too.

1087
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 3: Honestly, A lot of it, I think has to do

1088
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 3: with the fact that, you know, you're just sick of

1089
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 3: feeling like you're behind the trends, or you're behind the moves,

1090
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 3: or you're always one move away, like, you know, how

1091
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 3: do you marry? You know what, all of your decisions,

1092
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,479
Speaker 3: all of your opportunities to get better with with real

1093
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,240
Speaker 3: tangible results. I mean, and that's what they've been chasing

1094
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 3: is you know, you say you're going to do one thing,

1095
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 3: you say this is going to work. And every year

1096
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:49,879
Speaker 3: we get to this point of the year and we're

1097
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 3: asking Chris Ballard about last season and why it didn't work.

1098
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 3: And so I can certainly, you know, empathize with that, Do.

1099
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 1: You take that a step further and read that as

1100
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 1: a con on the carly erse Gordon evaluation sheet of

1101
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: Chris Bower.

1102
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 2: Or am I reading too much into that? I don't

1103
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 2: know if you're reading too much.

1104
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 3: I just don't know her well enough to know, you

1105
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like, I would love to be

1106
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 3: able to tell you you always kind of because you

1107
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 3: give me.

1108
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 2: Ust years ago.

1109
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, over, it's like, Okay, this is what it means

1110
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 3: when he says this. I'm just not so sure with her.

1111
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 3: But I do think that I guess I'll say this confidently.

1112
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 3: She is going to have meticulous notes on what you

1113
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 3: did and didn't do. And I don't doubt that for

1114
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 3: a second from what I've heard internally and even hearing

1115
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:32,919
Speaker 3: some of the players on the record saying.

1116
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 2: She's someone who's very, very detailed.

1117
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 3: So you have to think that your shortcomings, all of

1118
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 3: that is going to be on your resume, regardless of

1119
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 3: if it should be you know, at the top of

1120
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 3: the resume or whatever.

1121
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 2: It's gonna be on there regardless.

1122
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:48,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess training camp number forty one, Mike Chapel,

1123
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: you want to throw that headset on right there in

1124
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,399
Speaker 1: front of you, cam do we have Mike Chapel out

1125
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 1: and clear?

1126
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 2: The Dean joins us here live at Grand Park? Is

1127
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 2: that right? Chap? Is it forty one?

1128
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a forty second year, but forty one

1129
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 4: with COVID. So that's either that's.

1130
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 2: Either camp starts or counts. I mean we all were

1131
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 2: at the complex. You know how Chap is. He's got

1132
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 2: an ask and it's forty two.

1133
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 4: It's either a blessing or a curse. I don't know

1134
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 4: what it is. So you know I've been to more

1135
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 4: camps since Jans than it is on the earth.

1136
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 2: This is true, which which is cheap?

1137
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 4: Good?

1138
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 2: Say, I'm not that old? Come on now, I'll be

1139
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 2: thirty six in September because I got it.

1140
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,399
Speaker 1: Just because I got a hair transplant doesn't mean I'm

1141
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 1: I'm older than forty.

1142
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 4: Two here, That's one thing. As long as I've lived,

1143
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 4: I've never had a hair transplant. Well I've been. I've

1144
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 4: been blessed with some decent hair.

1145
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 2: But you've got a great hair there. We have some

1146
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 2: nice letters up there. I know some people. As it

1147
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 2: ever goes for you hair there you go, they're great.

1148
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,280
Speaker 1: Mike Chapel Live here at Grand Park again, Colts players

1149
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 1: starting to trickle.

1150
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 4: Ye people, as you know, people should really appreciate this

1151
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 4: because this is not my time of day, No not.

1152
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 4: I had to set to learn for five point fifty

1153
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 4: and that's I've seen.

1154
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 2: So for you people, this is pretty funny Chap.

1155
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 3: The other day on our YouTube chat, we had if

1156
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 3: somebody who was asking, like, man, Chap only goes on

1157
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 3: like the noon shows or with JMV. And you know,

1158
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 3: why does he come on with you guys? You know,

1159
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 3: he's always on with Jake and JMV. And I was like,

1160
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 3: Chap is not up this early? And You're like, are

1161
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:17,879
Speaker 3: you sure? Even at nine o'clock? I was like, Chap

1162
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 3: is not up this early?

1163
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 2: Like how many are respecting his wishes? A trust me?

1164
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 9: You know.

1165
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 3: And and for those listening now wondering why he's on here,

1166
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 3: it's because the players are talking here in a few.

1167
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 2: Minutes, and so you show up for us. He showed

1168
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 2: up for Kenny Moore and others.

1169
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: I think this is someone's asked me the other day,

1170
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: you know, how many years have you been hosting the

1171
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: morning Shot?

1172
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 2: I think it's my fourth year.

1173
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,879
Speaker 1: Like I started right now, like just before training camp,

1174
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: and I have probably asked Chap to come on, I'd

1175
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: say probably two or three times, and it's for very

1176
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 1: specific reasons why, And I always preface by I want

1177
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: to be very respectful of your beauty league, but we

1178
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 1: could really use you like a ninety five.

1179
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 4: Nine o'clock hour, which I can do eight thirty ish,

1180
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 4: so you know that's it. But no, I'm a guy

1181
00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 4: that stays up till twelve thirty one o'clock because you

1182
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 4: know there'll be a time when I'll have plenty of

1183
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 4: time to sleep. But no, I was listening to you

1184
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 4: guys in the way in and I wish there was

1185
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 4: I was up more often to listening to you guys.

1186
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 4: But this is who I am.

1187
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: Well, we appreciate the kind of words. We appreciate you.

1188
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,720
Speaker 1: You joined us again. We're live here in Westfield. Players

1189
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: should start me in the media here shortly we let

1190
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: off the show, Chap, and you would be the perfect

1191
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: person to ask with just this general thought of as

1192
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: we sit here right now, the futures of the pillars

1193
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: of the franchise are very much in question. When is

1194
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: the last time you've walked into a season where you

1195
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 1: have legitimate questions about will the g him be here

1196
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 1: next year? Will the quarterback be here next year? Will

1197
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: the head coach be here next year? Because I said

1198
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: to James in the Grigson Pagano era, you never doubted

1199
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck. Of course he's still going to be the quarterback.

1200
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: It's just do you need to go find a new

1201
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: head coach or new GM for him?

1202
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 2: Obviously?

1203
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 1: You know in the late Caldwell Napoleon, you know, Peyton's

1204
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 1: neck really contributed, right, So.

1205
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,879
Speaker 4: You're talking to ninety seven, I mean think about that.

1206
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: Oh, I know it's twenty five, right, and we sit

1207
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 1: here right now, and I think it's just I bring

1208
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 1: that up to say, it's such an odd time for

1209
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 1: the fan base, right, they have not you know some

1210
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: NFL franchises they feel this, not annually, but you know

1211
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:20,800
Speaker 1: more frequently.

1212
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,479
Speaker 2: Mark bears it has been like that for a little while.

1213
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 2: That is true.

1214
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 3: But yes, you would say, as someone who went through

1215
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 3: all the dark days with your brother, I'm just saying, so.

1216
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 2: You would say ninety seven the last time.

1217
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 4: Well, you know, in twenty eleven we knew there was

1218
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 4: going to be a change because of Peyton's situation where

1219
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 4: they they they went from you know they just clean house,

1220
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 4: but no, you're That's the one thing this team has

1221
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 4: been rested with is continuity, which or say Jim or

1222
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 4: say that's what he wanted. And for the most part

1223
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 4: they've had that. You know, the twenty twenty two was

1224
00:51:55,280 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 4: a aberration and a circus and all that stuff. But no,

1225
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 4: this is a I keep trying to figure out what's

1226
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 4: the best description of this season. And you know, consequence,

1227
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 4: we don't know. Someone asked me when the Daughters took over, well,

1228
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 4: whether there be any seismic changes. Well no, not in May.

1229
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:20,760
Speaker 4: I mean, but this season is going to depend will

1230
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 4: dictate what happens. Will they come here in January and say,

1231
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:26,760
Speaker 4: you know, we're in there, we're in a good place,

1232
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 4: we're heading the right direction. Or will they say we

1233
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 4: got to blow this up? And maybe you agree, but

1234
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 4: I don't see them tweaking things at the end of

1235
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 4: the season. It'll be if they're gonna change it, there

1236
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 4: will be changes. Whether you know GM head coach and players.

1237
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 4: They've got one and a half a dozen eight players,

1238
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 4: significant players on contract years. I guess depends on who

1239
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 4: what you've got with your franchise at the top, on

1240
00:52:56,560 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 4: who you resign. I resigned Bernard right and regardless because

1241
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 4: you need a left tackle. It after that, I don't

1242
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 4: know you're gonna wait. I think you're gonna kind of

1243
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 4: wait to see Alec Peers and the cross. So if

1244
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:11,959
Speaker 4: they have success, and I don't know how you wanted

1245
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 4: to find success, playoffs ten and seven almost make it,

1246
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 4: maybe you run everybody back because you believe you're in

1247
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 4: a good place. But that depends on the quarterback.

1248
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 3: So I'll throw you the question that Kevin through me.

1249
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 3: If Anthony Richardson is I believe this actually came from

1250
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 3: one of our listeners. Ye, if Anthony Richardson has a

1251
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 3: great season and he shows you he's a guy, but

1252
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,439
Speaker 3: they don't make the playoffs, is everybody back?

1253
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 4: It would? I would need to see what else would

1254
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 4: happen that for what you said for them not to

1255
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:45,399
Speaker 4: make the playoffs, that's fair.

1256
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,959
Speaker 1: You know, if your first year defensive coordinator has growing pains.

1257
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 4: Right, well, okay or Jonathan Taylor, heaven forbid gets hurt.

1258
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 4: But if they are it starts fifteen games, that's a

1259
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 4: good thing, right, Yeah, it is, And that maybe would

1260
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 4: show you that you're headed in the right direction. And

1261
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 4: then you're buying into another year. So but I hope

1262
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,359
Speaker 4: that happens. I'm not confident that happens. All we've got

1263
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 4: is two years of a bio to go on, and

1264
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 4: it's not it's not two good years. He's what he

1265
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 4: started fifteen games, seventeen misses by starting the two bingings. Yeah,

1266
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,919
Speaker 4: so I you know, and then he got Damiel Jillons.

1267
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 4: We're gonna be talking quarterbacks. You guys are oh year.

1268
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 4: Absolutely when he names the starter for now and then

1269
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 4: the opener, and then as soon as that starter struggles,

1270
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 4: how quick you're going to go to the next guy.

1271
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 4: And it's not good. You know, the two areas you

1272
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 4: don't want to have. In my mind, open competition in

1273
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 4: camp is quarterback and kicker. And they've got competition at

1274
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 4: bout spots and I think that's not healthy for your team.

1275
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 4: But a quarterback, this is where they are because of

1276
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:04,879
Speaker 4: have Richardson's played and I played.

1277
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 1: Training camp number forty two for that man that would

1278
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 1: be Mike chap of the Dean. Here is up at

1279
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 1: an ungodly hour for him on this Tuesday morning.

1280
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 4: One thing, if you get early enough, you miss a

1281
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 4: lot of the traffic.

1282
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all telling him here.

1283
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 4: So so there is there is a plus sidel though

1284
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 4: I just I couldn't. I don't know how you guys

1285
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 4: do this every day. I can. I'm too old for this.

1286
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 1: Well, we greatly appreciate your time here. Again, Kenny Moore

1287
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: was the second going to join us here and a

1288
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: little bit it is report day at Grand Park, Chap

1289
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 1: The greatest strength on this roster is.

1290
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 4: Where ooh uh, defensive receiver? I like?

1291
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 2: I like the receiver group, boy, And when's the last

1292
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 2: time you said that?

1293
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,399
Speaker 4: I know? And I still and I'm sure they get

1294
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:51,760
Speaker 4: tired here. I still wish they had the guy Jamar Chase.

1295
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 4: There's only six or seven of those guys Nico Collins.

1296
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 4: But I like the group. I do like the group.

1297
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 4: If A d Mitchell can do something better this year,

1298
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 4: it'll be a lot better defensive line. Again, I'm not

1299
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 4: buying in on the offensive line yet. I you're just

1300
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:16,240
Speaker 4: you're replacing Will Fries and Ryan Kelly, and that's that's huge.

1301
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 4: And you and you're relying on Gonzalvez and either Bordolini

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00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 4: or or ball State's owned Danny Pinter. And I just

1303
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 4: think that's that that you're asking a lot, and the

1304
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 4: offensive line needs to play well. Those two areas jump

1305
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:34,320
Speaker 4: or those jump out running backs to strength because of

1306
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 4: because of Jonathan Taylor, but he's going to miss a

1307
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 4: couple of games because running backs do. I like this roster.

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00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 4: I think it's it's gets got defficiencies. I mean the

1309
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 4: linebacker beyond the sire of Franklin who Jalen carlis, Yes,

1310
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 4: but beyond that, I mean, and you've got to play linebackers.

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00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 4: So I like the roster. I think it's a it's

1312
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Speaker 4: a playoff level roster. If the quarterback just plays good,

1313
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:06,399
Speaker 4: not great, but good. And and I'm skeptical.

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00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:09,720
Speaker 3: The player who was most poised for a breakout season

1315
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 3: or needs to have a breakout season, good.

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00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 4: Question, uh a lot two year two, he needs to

1317
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 4: step up. I was with you on that. I was

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00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 4: gonna say quitty Pay, but I think we've seen who

1319
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 4: Quitty Pay is and that's not and that's not a knock.

1320
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Speaker 4: I've always compared to him to Jabal share It and

1321
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 4: it's the ball was pretty good.

1322
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 3: He's just not that, which is not what you want

1323
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 3: from a first round right defensive end.

1324
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 4: And what it's going to take to resign him next year,

1325
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 4: which probably won't happen. So but they need one of

1326
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 4: the pass rushers to step up. Other than that, I

1327
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 4: mean a receiver again, Mitchell his his rookie season was

1328
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 4: just not good. U And you go back and look

1329
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:55,959
Speaker 4: at a lot of early draft pick rookie seasons weren't

1330
00:57:56,000 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 4: that great. Reggie Wayne didn't really emerge until year three,

1331
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 4: in part because of Marvin Harrison and Peyton had a

1332
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 4: love affair with Marvin Harrison where that's who he threw to.

1333
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 2: But not a bad person of love in that assets.

1334
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 4: No question. But I'm sure there were times Reggie felt

1335
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 4: like he was the third wheel and he was. Uh

1336
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 4: but but two or three players and I posted I

1337
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 4: think you did something, Simmer. I posted my most indispensable players,

1338
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 4: and it's Bernard Ryman and Jonathan Taylor. And I'm trying

1339
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 4: to think of the other guys I had.

1340
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 2: I had Sire Franklin High. I know it might be

1341
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 2: the minority of that.

1342
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 4: He was my next group.

1343
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 2: Look at the depth of that and that and.

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00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 4: That's why and that's also nearly making it was Braden Smith.

1345
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 4: Uh but you know, deforce Buck dra is a guy.

1346
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 4: They have a trouble playing without Yeah, but uh again,

1347
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 4: I like the roster, but we're going to get so

1348
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 4: tired of talking about the quarterback play. But that's this again,

1349
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 4: this is where everything's the fault back to that. But

1350
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 4: they've got some good areas and they got some good players.

1351
00:58:58,040 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 4: You know, Michael Pittman's going to be poised for a

1352
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 4: big season after enduring his back issues last year. So

1353
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 4: very interesting season upcoming. I hope that the quarterback thing

1354
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 4: is allowed to unfold without any hitches. We don't even

1355
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 4: know right now. I don't think whether ar is going

1356
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 4: to be fully ready to go tomorrow. So you know

1357
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 4: he's been throwing, but what's that mean? Right?

1358
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 1: When is the fifty to fifty splits?

1359
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 2: My question?

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00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:30,439
Speaker 4: Right? And until it does, well, you know, Jones gets

1361
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 4: a chance to continue to inch forward. So it'll be interesting.

1362
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 4: And again this is this is preseason is short, thirteen

1363
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 4: practices up here, the three games. I would hope think

1364
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 4: that Shane Stigen will know his starter after two preseason

1365
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 4: games and then they can let Riley Leonard and Jason

1366
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 4: Bean playing that third preseason.

1367
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 2: Now the start.

1368
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 1: Is playing again, got you, but you got to know

1369
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 1: who it is. These are two bad I inconsistent quarterbacks.

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00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 1: They need re game reps. I understand that if you

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01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 1: got a new center too, I understand that. But if

1372
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 1: you know who your guy is, if you know it's

1373
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 1: play him a half true to like a dress rehearsal.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I'll go, I'll go with that. But but then

1375
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 4: he goes out there and he gets hurt. And I'm

1376
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 4: one of those I hate see a guy get dinged up.

1377
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 4: But your point's very valid.

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01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 3: That's when you come back to Kevinis. I've done this

1379
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 3: for forty plus years. I mean talking about, yeah, I

1380
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 3: need a bow out of the go.

1381
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 4: But again, no, your point's very valid, and you shouldn't

1382
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 4: be in this position. You should know what you have

1383
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 4: with Anthony Richardson. You don't. Uh the highs are incredibly high.

1384
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 4: In the lows, you know, forty seven point seven percent completions,

1385
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 4: that's that's totally unacceptable.

1386
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 6: Yeah.

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01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 4: So, and we'll see Daniel Jones. I'm curious when he

1388
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 4: had a good team around him in twenty twenty one.

1389
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 4: Was it they make they make the wild card and

1390
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 4: they won a wild card game at Minnesota? I think

1391
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 4: it was so uh so, But again he was dumbed

1392
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 4: for a reason, and uh that's gonna be the overwriting

1393
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:07,439
Speaker 4: storyline throughout camp and into the season. But I hope

1394
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 4: we get a chance to write about the rookies. Tyler Warren.

1395
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 4: I'm looking forward. We saw what we did in the

1396
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 4: off season work and got he caught everything A three

1397
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 4: months ball all the time, and he caught all the time.

1398
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 4: So really curious where they finally got a tight end

1399
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 4: who can be productive. I mean not since Jack Doyleer

1400
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 4: they had a guy like that, so very instant training camp.

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01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 1: You know that voice that is the legend the Beach

1402
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 1: Grove Hornets. He is Mike Chappel and he is live

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01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 1: with us here report day for Colts training camp. Not

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01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 1: only Kenny the More, Kenny Moore the Second going to

1405
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 1: join us.

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01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 2: Kenny Hey the More Jo needs a training camp here.

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01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 1: Kenny Moore the Second will join us, and so will

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01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 1: Josh Downs a little bit later in the show. So

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01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 1: check both of those out live with us here in

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01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 1: Westfield chap Thank.

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01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 2: You, and Mark Dyketon.

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01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and hit the morning Thanks guys.

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01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 5: The Morning Checkdown on NUTI and one oh seven five

1414
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Speaker 5: the Fan.

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Speaker 2: All right, James, let's go to the Big Apple tonight.

1416
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 1: There will be no Caitlyn Clark for the second time

1417
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 1: where Fever Liberty have played on the road. Just like

1418
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 1: we saw just before the All Star Game, that right

1419
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 1: groin injury will keep her out. I am curious the

1420
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 1: fact that they're in New York medically, does she see

1421
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 1: anybody out there not to like? Oh yeah, Tyre Taliburton

1422
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 1: had the New York doctor. But still obviously that's a

1423
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 1: hot bed for the medical world. So we'll see how

1424
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 1: the Fever play without her tonight. They are in eleven

1425
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 1: and a half point underdog. The race is on. They

1426
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 1: are twelve and eleven. They're the sixth seed right now.

1427
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 3: The top eight teams in the WNBA make the playoffs,

1428
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 3: and they're facing number two seed Liberty tonight. So, as

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01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 3: Kelsey Mitchell said yesterday after practice, you know, there's no

1430
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 3: time to waste.

1431
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 1: You got to start seconds and wins Vegas Thursday, the

1432
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:50,920
Speaker 1: sky Sunday. That's what the week looks like here for

1433
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 1: the Fever.

1434
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 2: All right.

1435
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball Yesterday, Reds lose, Cubs lose Cardinals one

1436
01:02:57,840 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 1: Brewers eleven in a row.

1437
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 2: I believe it is now and some dude.

1438
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 1: Trying to catch a ful ball and Wrigley and fell

1439
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 1: into the basket.

1440
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 5: I think, yeah, that was I think the Brewers are

1441
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 5: on like a thirty one and twelve heater right now,

1442
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 5: like they are red. It's insane. Lose some Danny. Please

1443
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 5: tell Joe a squad to lose a few games.

1444
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 1: They are an absolute machine. Other news items really for me.

1445
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 1: I forgot Philip Rivers wasn't yet retired, James. Did you

1446
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 1: know he was so this Hall of Fame?

1447
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 2: I knew he was retired. He just told us that.

1448
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 6: I knew.

1449
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 1: Does the Hall of Fame Clark start now, Chap or

1450
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 1: does it go to the last game he played last year?

1451
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 4: He played?

1452
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 5: No?

1453
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 3: See we Shavito that there should be a rule that

1454
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 3: if it waited as long to retire, you can't be

1455
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 3: getting into the Hall of fame, you know, shortly thereafter.

1456
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 2: So the last game he did play was with the Colts. Yes,

1457
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 2: and that twenty twenty playoff game, a great game against

1458
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 2: the Bills.

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01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 5: I saw that news yesterday and I thought, I read

1460
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 5: an Onion article like this, this can't be accurate, right,

1461
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 5: Like he's been retired.

1462
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:00,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know he's all that.

1463
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 1: I was kind of like, wait a minute here now,

1464
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 1: he Heinz speaking.

1465
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 2: Of the Chargers. He will try and revive that career.

1466
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 1: Hopefully he gets a going good dude there with the

1467
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 1: Chargers Big ten media day out in Vegas. Kirk Signetti

1468
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 1: will take the mic later today. We'll see how appointment

1469
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 1: audio that is from him and last night James sounded

1470
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 1: like you and I both were tuning in to the TBT.

1471
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 2: A great game.

1472
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 1: Unfortunately for the Butler team. All good dogs they lose,

1473
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 1: but that fail harder team. They've got a lot of

1474
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 1: indie connections. I know the telecast has talked about Kyle

1475
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 1: guys involvement with that team. But Darius Adams from You Indy,

1476
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 1: Jesse Bingham from UNDI, Kobe Webster, the park Tutor kid,

1477
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 1: that Jordan Walker is that that Jordan Walker from Cathedral?

1478
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 1: Somebody needs to message me if that is him. I

1479
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 1: think you started at Morehead State. Maybe he had the

1480
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 1: game winning bucket last night, but that elam ending was

1481
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 1: awesome last night. Butler almost came back and got it

1482
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 1: done there. They had two three point looks at it

1483
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 1: for the win.

1484
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's just like pick up basketball, you know,

1485
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 3: next bucket wins and there is a certain level of

1486
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 3: excitement that comes with like the walk golf factor of

1487
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 3: the elim ding. So enjoyed it and I will certainly

1488
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 3: be tuning in to more TBT uh So.

1489
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 1: We will certainly keep you posted on that front. And

1490
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 1: of course today it is report Day live from Grand

1491
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 1: Park practice ten am Tomorrow, Thursday and Friday. Kennymore the

1492
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 1: second Josh Down scheduled to join us, Kevin Bow and

1493
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 1: James Boyd live here in Westfield.

1494
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 2: Oh Man, canuick clip that on YouTube?

1495
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 5: Please explain what you just did?

1496
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 2: What do you mean they're doing a young jock, it's

1497
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 2: going down?

1498
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:37,920
Speaker 3: Come on, come on, Mark, if I played a banger

1499
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 3: and not except us to dance and the camera.

1500
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 2: No, if the camera would add my chapel on it

1501
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:45,439
Speaker 2: doing the same thing.

1502
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 1: Clip that here on this Tuesday morning, we're live in

1503
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 1: Westfield and his report day for Colts training camp. Players

1504
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 1: should be starting to trickle over to the media area

1505
01:05:55,040 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 1: here shortly. Josh Downs, Kenny Moore, the second you got

1506
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 1: on a one on one right there, third and six.

1507
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 3: Ooh, that is a very good question. I'm gonna go,

1508
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 3: Josh Downs, advantage offensive player?

1509
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 2: Are you gonna tell Kenny that, yes, just to roll

1510
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 2: him up a bit. We got to ask each of

1511
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 2: them that.

1512
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 1: Honestly, when you think about one on one matchups here,

1513
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 1: like Quent Nelson against either Grover to Forrest Buckner always

1514
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 1: comes to mind. But a good third down rep or

1515
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 1: even just a one on one rep, because you know

1516
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 1: when they get into one on ones, James as you

1517
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 1: know full well, you know Kenny Moore waits for Josh

1518
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 1: downs and I'm er Tivarious Ward will wait for Michael Pittman,

1519
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 1: Junr or Alec Pierce, et cetera, et cetera. That might

1520
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 1: be the best good versus good matchup outside of Nelson

1521
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 1: versus a Buckner, I would say twenty three versus number one.

1522
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially for camp purposes because you can't really get

1523
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:48,960
Speaker 3: down dirty in the trenches during training camp. But I

1524
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 3: feel like the skill petition guys get a chance to shine,

1525
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 3: and it wouldn't it wouldn't be like you know, nine

1526
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 3: to ten or whatever not out of ten for one

1527
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 3: player or the other.

1528
01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 2: I think it'd be pretty even.

1529
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 3: But uh, advantage Josh just because again, well who's doing

1530
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 3: in the ball? See that that matter of fact that

1531
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 3: I might renig on what I just said I might

1532
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 3: go Kenny Moore in a second, because I don't know

1533
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 3: who's doing in the ball and if it's gonna be

1534
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 3: on time, would we chounted as a win if he

1535
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 3: just gets open?

1536
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 2: And I don't think that we should do that.

1537
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:18,920
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, I think you're true on that again with myself,

1538
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 1: Kevin Bowe and James Boyd up here at Grand Park,

1539
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 1: Mark Diison back in studio, Well be up here all

1540
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 1: week long. We shift the practices starting tomorrow. Those are

1541
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 1: ten am start times. I believe Cult City opens up

1542
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:32,080
Speaker 1: at nine am. So come over and say hey to us.

1543
01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 1: We just talked with Mike Chapel last segment, and you know,

1544
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 1: the name Ady Mitchell got brought up, and you know

1545
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 1: chap and very understand understandably mentioned the depth of whiteout

1546
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 1: and just how that room looks different. It's been a

1547
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 1: while since we've said that. What do you think playing

1548
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 1: time looks like for Adie Mitchell? And I think it's

1549
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 1: a bit of an unfair question. I guess let me

1550
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:54,760
Speaker 1: start there, because I think what happens out here, what

1551
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 1: happens in the preseason of I thought in the spring

1552
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 1: James for spring ball, he was reliable.

1553
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was good.

1554
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 1: That is not a word we used for him last fall.

1555
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 2: No, but this spring he was reliable.

1556
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 1: Now, spring reliability and fall reliability are two different.

1557
01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 2: Animals, Yeah, for sure.

1558
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 1: But I guess where does he factor in? Because I

1559
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 1: don't other positions, I'd say, boom, there's already made playing

1560
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:21,120
Speaker 1: time right there. If you were a tight end for example.

1561
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:23,720
Speaker 1: Oh aside with Tyler Warren, there's tons of playing time

1562
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 1: available if he was a backup running back, tons of

1563
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 1: playing time available. But at white out, I mean who

1564
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 1: you're taking off the field, Pittman, Pierce are down.

1565
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's the question I have is because the

1566
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:36,639
Speaker 3: guys you're trying to go up against are pretty good,

1567
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 3: you know, and keeping in mind or keeping in line

1568
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:42,639
Speaker 3: with the thinking that I had with quarterback, how many

1569
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:44,360
Speaker 3: times are you gonna throw it? I mean, they're still

1570
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:46,080
Speaker 3: going to be in my opinion, you should still be

1571
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 3: a run first team in theory, because of the dual

1572
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:51,600
Speaker 3: their capabilities of Anthony Richardson and Daniel Jones, because you

1573
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 3: have Jonathan Taylor, because you know you have you know,

1574
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 3: some guys on that offensive line, particularly in Quentin Nelson.

1575
01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 3: When you run his way, good things tend to happen.

1576
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 3: So I'm very curious about that, Kevin, and I can't

1577
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:04,759
Speaker 3: give you a straight answer, but I would like to say,

1578
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:08,800
Speaker 3: you know, beyond just the amount of plays itself, you

1579
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 3: just want to see more connectiveness because there were just

1580
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 3: times where when he did get a couple of reps,

1581
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 3: it might Hey, when you're a wide receiver, you might

1582
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 3: get three balls throwing your way.

1583
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 2: You might get two, you might whatever.

1584
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:19,600
Speaker 3: There were so many times we would be in the

1585
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 3: press box, Kevin, we'd be like, does he know what's

1586
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:22,479
Speaker 3: going on?

1587
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 2: Is he on the same page?

1588
01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:26,519
Speaker 1: Is Reggie Wayne was waiting for him in the side exactly.

1589
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 3: So I mean, honestly, if he wants to have more plays,

1590
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 3: you gotta be able to, you know, capitalize on the ones,

1591
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:34,680
Speaker 3: the few you do get throughout a game, because there

1592
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 3: will be opportunities. It's not like Ali Pierson don't play

1593
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 3: every single snap, you know, because especially knowing how many

1594
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:40,840
Speaker 3: go balls Al Pearson runs.

1595
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 2: But you got to be able to take advantage of that.

1596
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 2: I think another question.

1597
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 1: I know it's not necessarily whatever the sexiest question in

1598
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 1: the world, but and we have all hit on this

1599
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:53,760
Speaker 1: and again, Chap did it last segment. But Bernard ra

1600
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:59,680
Speaker 1: I'm and Braden Smith, they're so indispensable, they're so key. Yeah,

1601
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 1: you just have to have him in the lineup because

1602
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 1: I worry about that backup swing tackle. And I get

1603
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:07,639
Speaker 1: that's probably a question. James at thirty two teams would

1604
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:10,840
Speaker 1: say the same thing. Yeah, but with Ryman and much

1605
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 1: more so with Braden Smith, there has been a health

1606
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 1: question and if that arises again right now, Matt Gonzalez,

1607
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 1: who the thought was swing tackle, he's your right guard

1608
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:24,879
Speaker 1: right right, So now the question becomes is it Blake Freeland,

1609
01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 1: who has had I would say a very inconsistent start

1610
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 1: to his NFL career. And then Jalen Travis is a

1611
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 1: rookie fourth round pick out of Iowa State. I think

1612
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 1: there's a lot of intrigue in him, but he's also

1613
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 1: only played big time college football for one year he

1614
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:42,799
Speaker 1: was at Princeton. Yeah those other years, so boy, that

1615
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:46,120
Speaker 1: that swing tackle. You have so many questions at quarterback.

1616
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:49,600
Speaker 1: You can't afford to have questions up front that I

1617
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 1: think is a concern or just a question that I

1618
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 1: would have absolutely.

1619
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:59,679
Speaker 3: And I just I feel like having covered both professional

1620
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 3: baskets on professional football, the contingency plans you have to

1621
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:04,880
Speaker 3: have for football are just so much higher because the

1622
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:08,360
Speaker 3: injury rate and injury factor. And you know, to your point, Kevin,

1623
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 3: you don't have Maganzalvez to slide over to either of

1624
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:13,640
Speaker 3: those tackle spots if someone goes down. I believe he

1625
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:16,680
Speaker 3: started eight games last year, but all eight of them

1626
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:18,960
Speaker 3: were at the combined tackle spots. It was not at

1627
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 3: right guard. And so now that he's moved inside. Talking

1628
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 3: to tony' Frono Junior earlier this spring, he was telling us,

1629
01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 3: you know, no, this isn't an experiment.

1630
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 2: We want him to be at right guard, want him

1631
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 2: to stay inside.

1632
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 3: And if that's the case, then he's no longer an

1633
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 3: option to go back outside in my opinion, because you

1634
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:37,280
Speaker 3: don't want to be shuffling your offensive line too much.

1635
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 2: So it is something to think about.

1636
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:41,599
Speaker 3: And honestly, you know, I feel like if we gave

1637
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 3: Chris Ballard in that front office, some troops hereum, they

1638
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:46,559
Speaker 3: probably tell you that Blake Freeland is a miss, you know,

1639
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:48,639
Speaker 3: considering that he was I believe a fourth round pick

1640
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 3: and even in the preseason last year, he looked unplayable

1641
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 3: and we all knew coming out of that preseason that Oh,

1642
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:56,400
Speaker 3: there's no way this guy's going to be a back

1643
01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:59,800
Speaker 3: up to anybody. But considering how they have a lack

1644
01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:02,720
Speaker 3: of up there, he, I guess has to be in

1645
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:04,559
Speaker 3: that mix, which is a big concerning Mark.

1646
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 2: How's my rhythm on the video?

1647
01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 5: You be the judge. I just tweeted it out. Okay,

1648
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:13,160
Speaker 5: I just tweeted it out and said, I thought you

1649
01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 5: were in I thought you were in some cluster truck. No,

1650
01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 5: not yet, no, no, but Evan speaking of cluster truck,

1651
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 5: Evan was the one that sent me the clip. He

1652
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 5: so he's multifaceted, multi talented.

1653
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 1: Cheryl, I mean, I honestly can say this. I don't

1654
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 1: think there's a thing that I do worse in life

1655
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 1: than have rhythm or singing.

1656
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:33,320
Speaker 2: It looked pretty good. I think you looked pretty good.

1657
01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:35,360
Speaker 2: But I felt like that video. So I'm gonna send

1658
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:38,240
Speaker 2: that to my wife. Yeah, I think she'd be proud

1659
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:38,439
Speaker 2: of me.

1660
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:40,320
Speaker 4: She should be.

1661
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 5: Share it with the family.

1662
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 2: Are you going to be No, we're showing we're swing.

1663
01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:49,200
Speaker 2: We're to do some MAXI bowing into the culture of

1664
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 2: young young jock.

1665
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:52,840
Speaker 1: So Mark has the go ahead, Mark, share your tweet

1666
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 1: here because I thought the caption was excellent.

1667
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:57,840
Speaker 5: I sent I sent the video of you guys doing

1668
01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 5: the young Jock and your hits on the adult only

1669
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:04,679
Speaker 5: cruise No kids.

1670
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:08,840
Speaker 2: I didn't even read the freaking caption. That's hilarious. That's

1671
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:11,599
Speaker 2: what it is. Oh my gosh, all right, sentimaty thoughts

1672
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 2: of my rhythm question mark here. We'll keep you posting

1673
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 2: on that.

1674
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:16,280
Speaker 1: I'm sure everyone's on pins and needles. We are live

1675
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 1: here in Westfield. That is a absolutely gorgeous Tuesday morning

1676
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 1: training camp has started. Chris Baalt'll meet the media around

1677
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:25,560
Speaker 1: noon today and live here well. Kenny Moore than the

1678
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 1: second and Josh Downs join us a little bit later.

1679
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:30,760
Speaker 1: Thank you for tuning into the Phantom Morning Show right

1680
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:35,000
Speaker 1: here on ninety three five on a seven five, I

1681
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:39,800
Speaker 1: mean live here at Grand Park at his Colts training camp.

1682
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:42,600
Speaker 1: Kenny Moore the second schedule to join us here in

1683
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 1: a few Mark. I think what we'll do here is

1684
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:47,759
Speaker 1: maybe go a little bit abbreviated. Kenny's going to start

1685
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 1: here with the media scrum and then make his way

1686
01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:53,320
Speaker 1: over to us, and us would be myself, Kevin Bowen

1687
01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:56,519
Speaker 1: and James Boy. Thank you to Cam on site engineer

1688
01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:59,000
Speaker 1: for getting us locked and loaded here and we will

1689
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 1: be with you all week long and Monday and Tuesday.

1690
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 1: Those are your morning practices. Josh Townen schedule joint is

1691
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 1: coming up nine o'clock hour mark.

1692
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:10,439
Speaker 2: How does that sound? By the way, as we program

1693
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:11,600
Speaker 2: on live radio.

1694
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:14,680
Speaker 5: It sounds beautiful. I could have done it better myself,

1695
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 5: all right, So do you want to hit the young

1696
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:18,200
Speaker 5: Jaques when Kenny Moore comes over again?

1697
01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:21,519
Speaker 1: I think Kenny would have given me a decent grade

1698
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 1: on that, right, James.

1699
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 2: I think he would Okay, all right, I thought, my I.

1700
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 3: Don't know I Kenny more as much of a dancer,

1701
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:28,679
Speaker 3: but he would appreciate you having a little culture.

1702
01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 2: I'm sure Matty's loving me texting her.

1703
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 1: She's trying to get the kids ready and to go

1704
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:34,200
Speaker 1: to work, and you know, here she is, you know,

1705
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:35,840
Speaker 1: having to field my text about, Hey, how do you

1706
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:37,479
Speaker 1: think my rhythm looked with young Jaques?

1707
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:39,599
Speaker 2: So we'll hit you with that again.

1708
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 1: It is report day here at training camp, and you know,

1709
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 1: you look around the NFL, and I guess we'll find

1710
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:46,960
Speaker 1: out from Chris Ballard. Occasionally you do get a storyline

1711
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:49,559
Speaker 1: of hey, X player got hurt training the off season

1712
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 1: but unless I'm missing somebody, there's no one works that

1713
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 1: we think is a slam dunk to open up on PUP.

1714
01:14:57,400 --> 01:15:00,639
Speaker 2: Right, No, No, I think that any.

1715
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:02,800
Speaker 1: Sampson epicom maybe if he's not only back from the

1716
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:04,040
Speaker 1: torny A chillies and again PUP.

1717
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:06,559
Speaker 2: You can be pulled off that list at any price.

1718
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 1: Just because you start camp on PUP doesn't mean you'll

1719
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 1: be on it for X amount of days. Franklin would

1720
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:13,639
Speaker 1: be a name to watch. Dalen carl Lies. I'm trying

1721
01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 1: to think back to the spring James, some of these

1722
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 1: guys that missed time due to surgeries or injuries.

1723
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think those were the main ones, and I

1724
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 3: believe I might have been telling was it chap during

1725
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:26,599
Speaker 3: the break. But Daniel Scott, I mean not a super

1726
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:29,040
Speaker 3: high priority for me or I would think a lot

1727
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 3: of people on the beat, but I believe he missed

1728
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:33,840
Speaker 3: like the last part of spring practice. And for those

1729
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:36,360
Speaker 3: who are, you know, kind of curious, I think Daniel

1730
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:38,400
Speaker 3: Scott might have been a draft pick what two or

1731
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 3: three years ago. I know he hasn't played in the

1732
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 3: NFL because he had an achilles injury one year in

1733
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:45,559
Speaker 3: acl another year, so you know where is he at

1734
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 3: because you hear Chris Baller talks to highly of the guy,

1735
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:50,160
Speaker 3: but we haven't seen him play a single snap of

1736
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:50,679
Speaker 3: the NFL.

1737
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:52,519
Speaker 2: All right, Mark, let's go ahead and hit a break here.

1738
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:54,800
Speaker 1: Kenny more Second's about to meet the media, and so

1739
01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:57,280
Speaker 1: if he talks to the media for about five minutes,

1740
01:15:57,320 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 1: then hopefully we'll be back with the long time.

1741
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:01,840
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl Colts cornerback.

1742
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:04,000
Speaker 1: So let's plan on that. Kenny Moore the Second on

1743
01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 1: the other side. This is the Fan Morning Show here

1744
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:11,840
Speaker 1: on a Tuesday, and we are back here live at

1745
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 1: Colts training camp in Westfield. Kenny Moore the Second gonna

1746
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:17,920
Speaker 1: join us here in just a second. He is wrapping

1747
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:21,719
Speaker 1: up his media session as we speak. James Boyd's over

1748
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:25,719
Speaker 1: there in the tents among the media throng. Josh Down's

1749
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:28,519
Speaker 1: gonna join us here in the nine o'clock hour, right,

1750
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 1: And in all seriousness, I think one of the best

1751
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:33,960
Speaker 1: battles you see, and we've seen now for the last

1752
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:35,880
Speaker 1: couple of years. And Josh Downs really had this presence

1753
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 1: as a rookie, but as he's grown into a third

1754
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:40,599
Speaker 1: year player, you get into these one on one drills

1755
01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:42,719
Speaker 1: and you get Josh Downs opposite Kenny Moore the second

1756
01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:46,639
Speaker 1: That is a must watch too. I think very good

1757
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:50,240
Speaker 1: to elite players at their respective positions. So looking forward

1758
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 1: to that again. At ten am tomorrow practice gets underway.

1759
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 1: Minor tickets. If I'm not mistaken, I should double check

1760
01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 1: all this. I'm pretty sure tickets remain free for the

1761
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:01,719
Speaker 1: morning practic this is, but you do need a ticket,

1762
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:04,519
Speaker 1: so go online Colts dot com check that out. I

1763
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 1: want to say parking is like five bucks. I think

1764
01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 1: prices increase a little bit more for the afternoon and

1765
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:12,559
Speaker 1: evening practices. But it's a great time to come out

1766
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:15,559
Speaker 1: here to Colts Camp. And you can check out Colt

1767
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:17,760
Speaker 1: City and you can see that kind of behind us

1768
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:19,599
Speaker 1: if you're on the YouTube stream a little bit of that,

1769
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:23,520
Speaker 1: and so it is a great time here in Westfield.

1770
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 5: Even though it costs a little bit now, it's still

1771
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:29,240
Speaker 5: the cheapest and closest access you will get to the

1772
01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:30,360
Speaker 5: Colts all season long.

1773
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 4: You can't.

1774
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:33,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't beat that access. I guess you can

1775
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:35,960
Speaker 1: say I'm carrying the Colts water. I think this might

1776
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 1: be the best thing the Colts do, frankly, is having

1777
01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:41,559
Speaker 1: open access to training camp. It's unbelievable fan access that

1778
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 1: really teams around the league just don't get. So Kenny

1779
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 1: Moore is, I'm going to join us here in just

1780
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 1: a minute, and again, Josh Down's coming up in the

1781
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:52,639
Speaker 1: nine o'clock hour. Will be out here all morning long.

1782
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:56,680
Speaker 1: Chris Ballad will meet the media around noon today, so

1783
01:17:56,760 --> 01:18:00,240
Speaker 1: we'll have some updates for you, certainly with Jake to

1784
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:01,960
Speaker 1: three and John I'll have you cover from three to

1785
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:05,760
Speaker 1: six and we'll play some of that audio for you upcoming.

1786
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 1: Mark any big Bears camp news. I think the Bengals

1787
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 1: have kind of stolen the hour with Trey Hendrickson not

1788
01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:16,559
Speaker 1: reporting for training camp as those contract discussions, I should

1789
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:18,000
Speaker 1: say disagreements continue.

1790
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, Trey Hendrickson reportedly, I mean his location just says Florida,

1791
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 5: so it's like, well, I that's not near Cincinnati. So no,

1792
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:30,439
Speaker 5: that's interesting. As far as the Bears, they start reporting today,

1793
01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:33,840
Speaker 5: I don't think the rookies actually report until CENTA. I

1794
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:35,439
Speaker 5: could have that completely wrong, but I think they have

1795
01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 5: a little bit of a later starts. The players are arriving,

1796
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:39,680
Speaker 5: but I don't know if they're actually having practice for

1797
01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:43,280
Speaker 5: a little bit. But no big obviously the Big storylines

1798
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:45,680
Speaker 5: for the Bears. Just basically, can Caleb Williams, you know,

1799
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:48,559
Speaker 5: continue to look impressive in year two? What's that look

1800
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 5: like with Ben Johnson obviously a lot more tools with

1801
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:54,360
Speaker 5: the offensive line and all that stuff, the revamped offensive line.

1802
01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:56,760
Speaker 5: So curious to see how that all plays out. But

1803
01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 5: expectations a bit high in Chicago with the rival of

1804
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 5: Ben Johnson and now with Cale Williams under his wing

1805
01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:02,960
Speaker 5: for year two.

1806
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:05,160
Speaker 2: Boy wonder Ben Johnson.

1807
01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:07,439
Speaker 1: I again him an archman and the two most hyped

1808
01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 1: individuals in sports, you know right now. So we'll see

1809
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:12,000
Speaker 1: how things go up there in the Windy City for

1810
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:14,400
Speaker 1: him or Minder. Colts will have their joint practice with

1811
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 1: the Packers, so just one joint session here at Grand Park,

1812
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:22,799
Speaker 1: that is August fourteenth. That sounds twice Marcus played that today.

1813
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 5: Play it it's like required, I think.

1814
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:28,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I honestly you could play some Jerry Jones

1815
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:30,760
Speaker 1: sound today too. Those are quite the comments from Jerry

1816
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:34,440
Speaker 1: Jones yesterday in regards to Michael Parsons and that contract.

1817
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 1: There you sit, that contract situation playing out. One thing

1818
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:42,040
Speaker 1: when Kenny Moore joins us here in just a second,

1819
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:43,960
Speaker 1: and that I want to hit on is. I was

1820
01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:46,040
Speaker 1: listening to the start of his media session, and this

1821
01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:47,840
Speaker 1: kind of goes back to some of that Juju Brents

1822
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:50,640
Speaker 1: audio we played late last week. But you know, he

1823
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:53,439
Speaker 1: was asked to describe lou An Roumo's defense, first year

1824
01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:56,639
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator coming over, and he mentioned that he feels

1825
01:19:56,680 --> 01:20:01,960
Speaker 1: like the Colts will be more proactive defensively. That's what

1826
01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:04,639
Speaker 1: Kenny just said, and I think that is a great

1827
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:07,799
Speaker 1: word to describe it. I probably have said the exact

1828
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:11,760
Speaker 1: opposite for many of the Gus Bradley years and even

1829
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 1: at times that Matt eberflus era is, I thought the

1830
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 1: Colts were too reactionary defensively. And basically you're hoping and

1831
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:22,120
Speaker 1: praying that at some quote, you know, some point over

1832
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 1: a ten play eighty R drive, that the offense crews up. Whatever,

1833
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:27,640
Speaker 1: they make a penalty, they throw it in completion. But

1834
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:30,280
Speaker 1: you don't dictate enough. You don't try to put them

1835
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:33,880
Speaker 1: in positions I think of conflict enough, and I just

1836
01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 1: think this defense will try to do more of that.

1837
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:39,280
Speaker 1: Now again, will they do it right away? Will it

1838
01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:42,400
Speaker 1: be super successful? That all remains to be seen. Obviously

1839
01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 1: used to have to execute that aspect of it. But

1840
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:49,960
Speaker 1: I think that area of the Colts defense, whether that

1841
01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 1: is in disguising, whether that's playing more press man, whether

1842
01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:57,760
Speaker 1: that's being just generally a little bit more attacking via

1843
01:20:57,800 --> 01:21:02,040
Speaker 1: pressure up front or again via man coverage, or you know,

1844
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:06,920
Speaker 1: pressing opposing whiteouts on the outside. That to me, when

1845
01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:10,519
Speaker 1: I hear the word proactive, that's kind of what I'm hearing.

1846
01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 1: Not playing seven yards off and giving up easy in

1847
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:19,519
Speaker 1: rhythm completions too often. The cults have allowed quarterbacks to

1848
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:21,439
Speaker 1: get into rhythm very similar rhythm to what I had

1849
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:22,479
Speaker 1: for young Jock earlier.

1850
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:26,280
Speaker 5: Mark, Yeah, I mean I would like Kenny Moore to

1851
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:28,120
Speaker 5: give that an in evaluation of that. Has Maddy gotten

1852
01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:28,800
Speaker 5: back to you yet on.

1853
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 2: That either she is not. No, no, she's.

1854
01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:34,560
Speaker 5: Probably gonna hit ignore on that notification.

1855
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:38,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a little disappointed on that there. So yeah,

1856
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:40,519
Speaker 1: we'll see about that. By the way, Kenny Moore than

1857
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:42,880
Speaker 1: the second, He's been a very busy man this offseason.

1858
01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:43,920
Speaker 2: I did a.

1859
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:47,799
Speaker 1: Little Brewers spring training. I know he's over in Germany

1860
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:49,760
Speaker 1: for the draft. He's got to be happy about pot

1861
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:52,240
Speaker 1: Award getting in a couple of w's here back to

1862
01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:54,720
Speaker 1: back weeks so I think I said this to you

1863
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:56,599
Speaker 1: guys yesterday and we found out we're gonna have Kenny

1864
01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:58,680
Speaker 1: on the show pound for pound. I don't think it

1865
01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:00,400
Speaker 1: was a better athlete than the team if they did

1866
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:03,840
Speaker 1: a sport to catalon. If they did, I guess the

1867
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:05,840
Speaker 1: Sport Olympics would probably be the best way to put it.

1868
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:08,600
Speaker 1: I think Kenny Moore the second would be one of

1869
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:10,799
Speaker 1: the best athletes on that team period.

1870
01:22:10,840 --> 01:22:11,000
Speaker 4: Here.

1871
01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:13,479
Speaker 1: So again, Kenny going to join us here in just

1872
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 1: a minute live here at Grand Park, Colt's training camp.

1873
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:19,479
Speaker 1: Josh Downs schedule a little bit later on the nine

1874
01:22:19,479 --> 01:22:22,240
Speaker 1: o'clock hour, but the man himself is about to join

1875
01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:25,240
Speaker 1: us here as James Boyd gets back with us.

1876
01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:28,760
Speaker 2: Kenny Moore the second year nine, Kenny, have that right?

1877
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:29,640
Speaker 4: Where are we?

1878
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:31,439
Speaker 6: Where's time going?

1879
01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:34,400
Speaker 2: We might have to dump that one, Mark. How's the body?

1880
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:36,679
Speaker 6: The body's great? Body's great.

1881
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:40,679
Speaker 1: How much is training different for you? Like June July

1882
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 1: when you hit summer vacation. What did it look like

1883
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:45,320
Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, what does it look like

1884
01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:46,760
Speaker 1: now twenty twenty five.

1885
01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:49,240
Speaker 9: I think just as a young player in early you

1886
01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:51,400
Speaker 9: were just trying to figure out what is that in

1887
01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:55,320
Speaker 9: my body in the what do I want to go

1888
01:22:56,400 --> 01:23:00,840
Speaker 9: as far as you know, how does my body feel?

1889
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:03,040
Speaker 9: I think I was feeling worse during that time of

1890
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:05,600
Speaker 9: twenty seventeen. I mean it sounds crazy, but you know

1891
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:09,560
Speaker 9: you're going from straight from college to the draft to

1892
01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:15,560
Speaker 9: you know, obviously the combound and everything straight to OTAs

1893
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:18,519
Speaker 9: you know, mini camps and all that stuff. So didn't

1894
01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:21,160
Speaker 9: really get much of a break. But obviously year nine

1895
01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:24,240
Speaker 9: and I've got some breaks after the season, spring training,

1896
01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:26,320
Speaker 9: and then you get another break after that. So over

1897
01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:29,439
Speaker 9: the years I begin to learn what exactly I need

1898
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:32,200
Speaker 9: from my body to be ready for day one a

1899
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:32,800
Speaker 9: training camp.

1900
01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:37,080
Speaker 3: Kenny, what's the biggest difference or growth you've kind of

1901
01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:41,240
Speaker 3: seening yourself from you know, being undrafted til year nine

1902
01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 3: and you know, earning a couple of contracts, Like, what's

1903
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:46,320
Speaker 3: been the biggest overall lesson that you've kind of taken

1904
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:47,360
Speaker 3: away from this game so far?

1905
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:48,920
Speaker 6: Ooh, that's a great question.

1906
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:51,479
Speaker 9: I think the first thing that popped it in my

1907
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:57,000
Speaker 9: head was management and managing my my mental, my physical,

1908
01:23:57,040 --> 01:24:01,439
Speaker 9: and my emotional and you know, every year you playing

1909
01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:03,760
Speaker 9: in the league or every year that kind of goes

1910
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:07,400
Speaker 9: by you somehow, you beginning to know more people, you

1911
01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:10,320
Speaker 9: begin to do more stuff, you gain more interest, you

1912
01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:13,000
Speaker 9: find out what I like and dislike. So I think

1913
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 9: managing all those things to make sure you can go

1914
01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:18,880
Speaker 9: back out and perform at a high level, and make

1915
01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:22,559
Speaker 9: sure you can go out and delegate all this time

1916
01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:26,759
Speaker 9: to other people, the family, yourself, the balance the management

1917
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:29,240
Speaker 9: of all those things is is very important. So I

1918
01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:34,000
Speaker 9: think for me personally, the management space of my life

1919
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:34,719
Speaker 9: has been.

1920
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:37,720
Speaker 6: Definitely most important.

1921
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:41,160
Speaker 3: Along those lines of having like other responsibilities. I know you're,

1922
01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:43,400
Speaker 3: you know, involved with the NFLPA as far as the

1923
01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:44,920
Speaker 3: colts and things like that. How much do you pay

1924
01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:47,880
Speaker 3: attention to what happened this offseason as far as you

1925
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 3: know the reports that hey, they were colluding to not

1926
01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:54,719
Speaker 3: give you all guaranteed contracts and things of that nature.

1927
01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:58,280
Speaker 9: Well, those are those are things that I'm still learning about.

1928
01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:01,120
Speaker 9: I think those are just ongoing through. It's like every

1929
01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:04,880
Speaker 9: week it's kind of something new coming out. So we'll

1930
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:10,840
Speaker 9: get to the bottom of it with Tom. But yeah,

1931
01:25:11,720 --> 01:25:13,639
Speaker 9: I'm just not learning about those things in the last

1932
01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:16,080
Speaker 9: couple of weeks or so. It's not nothing that I

1933
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:19,400
Speaker 9: was already aware of in years prior to this one.

1934
01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:23,160
Speaker 9: So I think it's news to everybody. I think it's

1935
01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:27,519
Speaker 9: business is crazy obviously, and there's a lot of money

1936
01:25:27,560 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 9: that goes into a lot of things around here.

1937
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:32,120
Speaker 6: And so yeah, that's all I have to say about

1938
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:32,760
Speaker 6: it self.

1939
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:34,719
Speaker 1: A story on drafted free agent Kenny Moore than second.

1940
01:25:34,720 --> 01:25:37,080
Speaker 1: It's had a great NFL career and it's year nine

1941
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:39,759
Speaker 1: upcoming here for the cults. He joins us here live

1942
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:45,640
Speaker 1: at Grand Park. Kenny, what's left on the individual I

1943
01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:47,040
Speaker 1: don't know if you're a big goal guy, but on

1944
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:49,679
Speaker 1: the individual list for you to achieve in your NFL career.

1945
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:52,880
Speaker 9: Sorry, I keep tearing.

1946
01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:54,679
Speaker 6: I think that.

1947
01:25:56,560 --> 01:26:01,920
Speaker 9: I mean left to achieve. I mean, look, the game

1948
01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:05,080
Speaker 9: doesn't owe me anything. It did, it doesn't owe me anything,

1949
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:09,080
Speaker 9: I j I just keep working hard. That's a That's

1950
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:12,759
Speaker 9: what I owder myself. It's hard work and I gotta

1951
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:15,599
Speaker 9: be that's that's that's all I'm responsible of. That's all

1952
01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:18,559
Speaker 9: I can control is is how I approach the game.

1953
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:21,719
Speaker 9: I I truly believe if you love a game, it'll

1954
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 9: love you back. And you know I don't. I don't

1955
01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:28,719
Speaker 9: wanna write myself short or just say I'm I've already

1956
01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:31,599
Speaker 9: done what I was supposed to do. But look, I'm

1957
01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:35,799
Speaker 9: I'm nine years in. I feel great, my family is happy,

1958
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:42,000
Speaker 9: and I I just feel like I'm winning. Uh. I

1959
01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:45,439
Speaker 9: wasn't supposed to be here, you're nae Uh. I was

1960
01:26:45,479 --> 01:26:47,439
Speaker 9: going into two weeks a at New England and I

1961
01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 9: thought I was gonna be erased. I thought I was

1962
01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:53,360
Speaker 9: gonna be back in Valdosta. I was two weeks as

1963
01:26:53,400 --> 01:26:54,960
Speaker 9: a colt and I thought I was gonna be back

1964
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:59,799
Speaker 9: in Valdosta from special teams, penalties and all that bs. So, uh,

1965
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:05,640
Speaker 9: I'm here now, and I feel like, I don't know,

1966
01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:07,719
Speaker 9: I kind of own I kind of own everything that

1967
01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:10,519
Speaker 9: has happened in my career. It's been a great movie

1968
01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:15,960
Speaker 9: so far. So I'm looking forward to channeling everything that

1969
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:19,360
Speaker 9: I have in me to have a great ninth year

1970
01:27:19,360 --> 01:27:22,160
Speaker 9: in the league. It's kind of crazy to keep saying that,

1971
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:26,679
Speaker 9: but I'm having a lot of fun. I just really

1972
01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:27,160
Speaker 9: want to win.

1973
01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:31,000
Speaker 1: You just use the word proactive to describe how you

1974
01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:33,559
Speaker 1: think this defense will be. Can you expand on.

1975
01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:45,519
Speaker 9: That preparation knowing who you're going against, having a plan

1976
01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:49,600
Speaker 9: and easily adaptable.

1977
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:54,120
Speaker 3: And then Kenny to kind of piggyback off what you

1978
01:27:54,160 --> 01:27:56,160
Speaker 3: were saying over here on the other side of the

1979
01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:58,360
Speaker 3: tent when it comes to trying to become a top

1980
01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:00,559
Speaker 3: five defense, you know, with the pieces that you all have,

1981
01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:02,639
Speaker 3: the talent you all have on this roster. Lou Anarroumo

1982
01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:06,360
Speaker 3: coming in, you talked about winning, you know, off the field,

1983
01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:08,680
Speaker 3: and having so much as individually in your career. But

1984
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:11,639
Speaker 3: as you go into your nine and kind of knowing, Okay,

1985
01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:14,640
Speaker 3: I don't know if I'll play another nine after this,

1986
01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:17,720
Speaker 3: what's the desire level to just you know, again, like

1987
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:19,880
Speaker 3: you said, not be a race and have something that

1988
01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:21,280
Speaker 3: you can look back on and be like, Okay, well

1989
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:23,160
Speaker 3: this was this year or two years or whatever. How

1990
01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:25,640
Speaker 3: many years we really had something special when we went

1991
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:26,519
Speaker 3: and did something special.

1992
01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:31,320
Speaker 9: I don't know. I just feel like my approach to

1993
01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:34,599
Speaker 9: the game is always different. A lot of people waited

1994
01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:38,280
Speaker 9: their careers off of wins and losses, you know, if

1995
01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 9: I had a ring or not. But I've always approached

1996
01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:45,200
Speaker 9: a game, you know, since my senior year of high

1997
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:48,920
Speaker 9: school was I played this game to have fun. My

1998
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:51,800
Speaker 9: high school is really good. I saw them winning a lot,

1999
01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:54,400
Speaker 9: even though we got beat first round of playoffs. We

2000
01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:57,439
Speaker 9: had a lot of fun that season and that kind

2001
01:28:57,479 --> 01:29:00,640
Speaker 9: of transition into playing Division two football. I went to

2002
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:04,200
Speaker 9: a really good program who had just won uh AN

2003
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:08,080
Speaker 9: a national title, and I met a lot of great people,

2004
01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:10,599
Speaker 9: had a lot of great teammates over there in Valdosta State,

2005
01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:13,000
Speaker 9: had a lot of great coaches every single year, had

2006
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:16,439
Speaker 9: a new defensive system every single year. But somehow we

2007
01:29:16,439 --> 01:29:18,280
Speaker 9: were able to uh, you know, have some fun. And

2008
01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:20,840
Speaker 9: that just kept me in it. Man, That's that just

2009
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:23,240
Speaker 9: kept me in it. If it was too much, you know, raw, raw,

2010
01:29:23,320 --> 01:29:26,920
Speaker 9: and like we gotta do this, like then I would

2011
01:29:27,040 --> 01:29:28,840
Speaker 9: I would have fell out of love with football a

2012
01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:32,040
Speaker 9: long time ago. And then over here in Indianapolis, like,

2013
01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:35,200
Speaker 9: of course, we definitely wanna win. We definitely have a

2014
01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:38,439
Speaker 9: lot too old to the city uh of Indianapolis, and

2015
01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:41,840
Speaker 9: we want to get that accomplished. But I've had a

2016
01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:47,720
Speaker 9: lot of fun here at Indy and honestly, we we

2017
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:50,400
Speaker 9: gotta figure out how to have even more fun this year.

2018
01:29:50,439 --> 01:29:54,640
Speaker 9: We gotta have fun from the jump and me individually,

2019
01:29:54,720 --> 01:29:56,400
Speaker 9: that's how I stay in it. You know, That's why

2020
01:29:57,240 --> 01:29:59,280
Speaker 9: you know the dances come out, you know, all the

2021
01:29:59,320 --> 01:30:02,160
Speaker 9: hand shades and cause that's that's a little boy in me.

2022
01:30:02,240 --> 01:30:05,400
Speaker 9: That that That's what I always loved about ball was

2023
01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:09,800
Speaker 9: the dancing, the camaraderie, the partying on the plane. That

2024
01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:11,840
Speaker 9: those are the things that I like to talk about.

2025
01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:15,120
Speaker 9: I don't talk about, oh, third down, like at the

2026
01:30:15,200 --> 01:30:18,280
Speaker 9: end of this game, I did this like that, like

2027
01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:20,760
Speaker 9: that's cool out of appearance or something like that. But

2028
01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:23,120
Speaker 9: like if I'm in the backyard with the guys, I'm

2029
01:30:23,160 --> 01:30:27,160
Speaker 9: I'm talking about jumping up with DeForest, you know after

2030
01:30:27,160 --> 01:30:29,920
Speaker 9: his sack like tho. Those are cool moments for me

2031
01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:32,920
Speaker 9: because that's that's that's that's the little boy. That's that's

2032
01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:34,920
Speaker 9: what I always saw the game of football ass and

2033
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:39,439
Speaker 9: so like like the way they talked about MSR. Ersay

2034
01:30:39,439 --> 01:30:42,000
Speaker 9: and how he was a owner and and he he

2035
01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:46,439
Speaker 9: led the the organization as his little boy self, like

2036
01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:49,520
Speaker 9: he putting them pads on, taking pictures with the guys,

2037
01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:52,280
Speaker 9: like that meant a lot to me, to me because

2038
01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:55,960
Speaker 9: that's the same vision that I have for football. That's

2039
01:30:56,120 --> 01:30:58,720
Speaker 9: that's what I see. And uh, I don't want to

2040
01:30:58,720 --> 01:31:00,759
Speaker 9: revele on, but that that's just my approach.

2041
01:31:00,760 --> 01:31:01,720
Speaker 6: That's why I played a game of.

2042
01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:04,880
Speaker 1: Staff kids game, right, it is Kenny more than second

2043
01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:05,960
Speaker 1: with us here a couple more minutes.

2044
01:31:05,960 --> 01:31:07,000
Speaker 2: We appreciate your time.

2045
01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:09,200
Speaker 1: On this report day, we heard some of the members

2046
01:31:09,240 --> 01:31:11,560
Speaker 1: of the coaching staff single out rookie Justin Wally in

2047
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:14,800
Speaker 1: the spring. Your early impressions of the third round corner

2048
01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:15,920
Speaker 1: out of Minnesota.

2049
01:31:16,720 --> 01:31:20,000
Speaker 9: My early impressions, I mean, I think he has everything.

2050
01:31:20,600 --> 01:31:22,679
Speaker 9: He has, what he has, what it takes to play

2051
01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:27,240
Speaker 9: in his game alone time. He he loves football. I

2052
01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:29,719
Speaker 9: can I can see that he knows how to play football,

2053
01:31:29,720 --> 01:31:32,559
Speaker 9: and he has the instincts and awareness to be a

2054
01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:36,120
Speaker 9: great player. His ceiling is really high. If I was

2055
01:31:36,160 --> 01:31:39,439
Speaker 9: to pitch two guys that I'm really high on, let's

2056
01:31:39,439 --> 01:31:43,320
Speaker 9: say three that I'm really high on, is a Idam

2057
01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:45,280
Speaker 9: not Mitch, you Wally?

2058
01:31:46,479 --> 01:31:50,360
Speaker 6: And I really do like Peers, Yeah.

2059
01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:55,200
Speaker 9: Not just because I go against them, but it was

2060
01:31:55,200 --> 01:31:57,720
Speaker 9: too offensive and.

2061
01:31:56,120 --> 01:31:57,400
Speaker 6: One that's fair.

2062
01:31:57,800 --> 01:31:58,320
Speaker 2: That's fair.

2063
01:31:58,360 --> 01:32:01,240
Speaker 3: And I guess to that point, what stands out to

2064
01:32:01,240 --> 01:32:03,479
Speaker 3: you about eighty Mitchell? And and we get it like last

2065
01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:05,400
Speaker 3: year and he's admitted like, hey, I had to learn

2066
01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:09,080
Speaker 3: how to be a pro. It is, but yeah, when

2067
01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:11,600
Speaker 3: you line up against this guy and probs.

2068
01:32:11,200 --> 01:32:14,679
Speaker 9: It, I'm saying, like potential and tool wise like he

2069
01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:15,720
Speaker 9: has the tools.

2070
01:32:15,760 --> 01:32:19,640
Speaker 6: Like I'm excaiturday. I'm excited for what we have.

2071
01:32:19,720 --> 01:32:21,240
Speaker 2: Josh Downs joined us here and.

2072
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:25,160
Speaker 1: I think when we talk good on good out here,

2073
01:32:25,600 --> 01:32:27,479
Speaker 1: there might not be a better matchup than when you

2074
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:29,920
Speaker 1: two go against each other one on ones. If we

2075
01:32:29,960 --> 01:32:30,880
Speaker 1: go best out of seven?

2076
01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:31,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean yeah, that's opinion.

2077
01:32:32,120 --> 01:32:34,160
Speaker 2: It would you agree with that or noough?

2078
01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:36,000
Speaker 6: If it's the best matchup, I'm not.

2079
01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:39,040
Speaker 1: Sure best out of seven you Josh Downs one on one?

2080
01:32:40,040 --> 01:32:43,000
Speaker 1: We're going to find out here in trans you think

2081
01:32:43,080 --> 01:32:44,040
Speaker 1: Josh will answer.

2082
01:32:43,800 --> 01:32:47,000
Speaker 6: It, I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

2083
01:32:47,720 --> 01:32:50,240
Speaker 1: Well into this, you look like a very busy man

2084
01:32:50,280 --> 01:32:52,679
Speaker 1: this offseason, and feel free to fill in any gaps

2085
01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:54,320
Speaker 1: you're over in Germany.

2086
01:32:53,960 --> 01:32:56,439
Speaker 2: For the draft. Did you do a little Brewers spring training?

2087
01:32:56,520 --> 01:32:57,400
Speaker 6: Did I see that I did?

2088
01:32:57,680 --> 01:32:57,840
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2089
01:32:57,880 --> 01:33:00,400
Speaker 9: I got a buddy that I grew up with. He's

2090
01:33:00,439 --> 01:33:02,600
Speaker 9: a picture for them. What was the best thing you

2091
01:33:02,640 --> 01:33:05,800
Speaker 9: did his name deal Hall this off season? Because the

2092
01:33:05,800 --> 01:33:07,559
Speaker 9: best thing I did this off season or with the

2093
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:08,320
Speaker 9: bruised spring training?

2094
01:33:08,400 --> 01:33:10,280
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, feel free to share about the Brewers

2095
01:33:10,640 --> 01:33:11,720
Speaker 1: spring training experience.

2096
01:33:11,720 --> 01:33:17,000
Speaker 9: But I mean, look, I just love sports, like it's

2097
01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:20,000
Speaker 9: just a little boy. Me and so uh I went

2098
01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:23,040
Speaker 9: out there and I tried to get some bad impact practicing,

2099
01:33:23,360 --> 01:33:25,760
Speaker 9: you know, in the cages and stuff. And I was

2100
01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:28,120
Speaker 9: already a little nervous because when you walk in there

2101
01:33:28,120 --> 01:33:30,960
Speaker 9: and you're here, how fast you know those pictures are going,

2102
01:33:32,439 --> 01:33:34,080
Speaker 9: You're just like, all right, it's got to be the

2103
01:33:34,120 --> 01:33:39,519
Speaker 9: hardest thing in sports is for you. For between us

2104
01:33:39,760 --> 01:33:43,679
Speaker 9: and so H, we put they got this machine called

2105
01:33:43,680 --> 01:33:46,880
Speaker 9: the Traject And on the Trajet you can put up

2106
01:33:46,920 --> 01:33:50,040
Speaker 9: any picture and you can put any pitch, any speed,

2107
01:33:50,160 --> 01:33:54,600
Speaker 9: whatever you want. So that on the traject it's just

2108
01:33:54,280 --> 01:33:57,719
Speaker 9: it's this entire screen and it's digital.

2109
01:33:58,040 --> 01:34:00,280
Speaker 6: The picture actually shows up on this thing. And so

2110
01:34:00,760 --> 01:34:01,800
Speaker 6: you think you're in the park.

2111
01:34:02,680 --> 01:34:04,960
Speaker 9: And so as soon as he's about to release the ball,

2112
01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:07,680
Speaker 9: and the pitch just comes out of this machine and

2113
01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:11,799
Speaker 9: we put up Paul schemes and shout out to Paul Skins.

2114
01:34:12,320 --> 01:34:14,320
Speaker 6: I could not put a put a ball in play.

2115
01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:16,320
Speaker 6: But what was my power?

2116
01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:20,800
Speaker 9: I mean it was like eighty nine, mid nineties, all

2117
01:34:20,840 --> 01:34:25,400
Speaker 9: types of pitches, and uh I made contact, but they

2118
01:34:25,400 --> 01:34:28,400
Speaker 9: were all foul balls. I got to try to at

2119
01:34:28,439 --> 01:34:30,559
Speaker 9: least you made some contacts. That was our first time.

2120
01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:32,880
Speaker 9: I'm usually better off the second time I do stuff.

2121
01:34:33,240 --> 01:34:35,200
Speaker 2: But yeah, if you could be a pro athlete in

2122
01:34:35,240 --> 01:34:36,439
Speaker 2: any other sport, what would have been.

2123
01:34:36,760 --> 01:34:43,439
Speaker 6: That's tough. That's tough. I really that's tough. I don't know.

2124
01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:47,759
Speaker 9: Formula one is pretty cool, but it's something about soccer.

2125
01:34:49,080 --> 01:34:52,280
Speaker 9: Hm English Premier League striker, that's me.

2126
01:34:52,520 --> 01:34:53,080
Speaker 2: Look at that.

2127
01:34:53,360 --> 01:34:55,760
Speaker 3: Ye see, he's spoken like somebody else, naturally good at

2128
01:34:55,800 --> 01:34:57,000
Speaker 3: probably every sport growing up.

2129
01:34:57,000 --> 01:34:58,280
Speaker 1: I feel like one day I was walking back to

2130
01:34:58,320 --> 01:34:58,920
Speaker 1: media sent.

2131
01:34:58,800 --> 01:35:00,120
Speaker 2: Over here, and I look over and you were are

2132
01:35:00,200 --> 01:35:00,519
Speaker 2: you kicking?

2133
01:35:02,120 --> 01:35:03,840
Speaker 6: After that a couple of years, yeah, yeah, I.

2134
01:35:04,040 --> 01:35:06,120
Speaker 3: Did say about Kenny Summer. Really you want to see

2135
01:35:06,120 --> 01:35:08,040
Speaker 3: his social media post. I'm like, he just be doing stuff.

2136
01:35:08,040 --> 01:35:08,439
Speaker 4: I just do.

2137
01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:13,679
Speaker 2: I tell you, I'm watching the draft. Wait, there's Kenny Moore.

2138
01:35:14,960 --> 01:35:15,839
Speaker 6: I wasn't even supposed.

2139
01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:17,120
Speaker 9: I didn't think I was going to be doing that,

2140
01:35:17,160 --> 01:35:18,960
Speaker 9: to be honest, I just went over there to do

2141
01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:24,880
Speaker 9: some American football football academies, that's all. That's that's why

2142
01:35:24,880 --> 01:35:27,120
Speaker 9: I went over there, is to do football clinics and

2143
01:35:27,200 --> 01:35:30,240
Speaker 9: to further their game in American football, you know, as

2144
01:35:30,280 --> 01:35:33,760
Speaker 9: we're trying to, you know, make this whole thing international

2145
01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:37,160
Speaker 9: and stuff like that. Our market is Germany and we

2146
01:35:37,240 --> 01:35:39,840
Speaker 9: just spend it. We just spended our markets too, to

2147
01:35:40,160 --> 01:35:43,439
Speaker 9: Switzerland and Austria. But uh yeah, I just wanted to

2148
01:35:43,439 --> 01:35:46,599
Speaker 9: go over there to Germany and tap into the market

2149
01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:51,320
Speaker 9: and have some fun doing football, and that opportunity came up,

2150
01:35:51,320 --> 01:35:52,240
Speaker 9: so we did it all right.

2151
01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:55,360
Speaker 1: Last last thing, I lied greatly appreciate your time driving

2152
01:35:55,400 --> 01:36:00,200
Speaker 1: by Lukasol Stadium. What does that mean to see you

2153
01:36:00,479 --> 01:36:01,679
Speaker 1: on the side of that building.

2154
01:36:03,080 --> 01:36:06,640
Speaker 9: That'll never become normal to me. I'm a I'm a

2155
01:36:06,680 --> 01:36:11,640
Speaker 9: graphics guy. I'm a I studied mass media and communication

2156
01:36:11,760 --> 01:36:14,599
Speaker 9: arts in college. Whenever I was there, present and shout

2157
01:36:14,600 --> 01:36:19,960
Speaker 9: out the VSU, so that whole area is like that.

2158
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Speaker 9: That's just what I love. I love graphics, I just

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01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:26,479
Speaker 9: love I don't know, that's a that's an achievement as

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01:36:26,640 --> 01:36:28,559
Speaker 9: as it as it is. You know, driving by that thing.

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01:36:28,640 --> 01:36:32,320
Speaker 9: I live downtown, so my family always took a picture

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01:36:32,360 --> 01:36:36,559
Speaker 9: of that every time they see it, and that'll never

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01:36:36,680 --> 01:36:39,920
Speaker 9: that'll never grow over to me. So I really appreciate

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01:36:40,320 --> 01:36:41,040
Speaker 9: the coach doing that.

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Speaker 4: Again.

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01:36:41,720 --> 01:36:43,400
Speaker 1: It is a hell of a story and it's got

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01:36:43,439 --> 01:36:45,080
Speaker 1: another couple chapters to write in it.

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Speaker 2: Kenny more than second head into year and nine. Kenny,

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01:36:47,960 --> 01:36:49,800
Speaker 2: stay healthy, man, We really appreciate the time.

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Speaker 1: Yes, sir, thanks, that's a great Kenny more than the second.

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01:36:52,240 --> 01:36:55,200
Speaker 1: The pride of Aldsa stay. Couple of vsgue shout outs

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01:36:55,280 --> 01:37:00,200
Speaker 1: right there from Kenny on report that Michael Pitton in

2173
01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:04,040
Speaker 1: junior to Force Buckner meeting the media as we speak, James,

2174
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:05,160
Speaker 1: I can just slide over there.

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01:37:05,280 --> 01:37:06,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me went over there, and.

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01:37:08,040 --> 01:37:10,519
Speaker 1: I guess maybe they've all wrapped up. Josh Down's going

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01:37:10,560 --> 01:37:13,120
Speaker 1: to join us, I think, coming up later in the

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01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:17,080
Speaker 1: nine o'clock hour, and we'll get started with practice coming

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01:37:17,160 --> 01:37:22,280
Speaker 1: up ten am tomorrow. Here morning practices Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.

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01:37:22,439 --> 01:37:23,920
Speaker 1: I thought a couple of things stood out to me

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01:37:24,280 --> 01:37:26,760
Speaker 1: from Kenny Moore, but I'll leave the floor open to you, James.

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01:37:26,800 --> 01:37:28,800
Speaker 1: What stood out to you from uh? I thought a

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01:37:28,840 --> 01:37:33,559
Speaker 1: guy that just frankly loves to tell I just think

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01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:35,560
Speaker 1: he's he's blossom.

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01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:38,760
Speaker 2: And sharing his story. Yeah, and I think he's one

2186
01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:40,280
Speaker 2: of the better voices of the team, honestly.

2187
01:37:40,400 --> 01:37:40,599
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:37:40,640 --> 01:37:42,960
Speaker 3: I think he's actually very in my opinions, just very

2189
01:37:43,600 --> 01:37:48,840
Speaker 3: how do I describe it? Uh self assured like this

2190
01:37:48,960 --> 01:37:51,160
Speaker 3: isn't am I good enough to make it to the

2191
01:37:51,240 --> 01:37:53,479
Speaker 3: league Canny, it's oh, I'm that guy, Kenny, and and

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01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:55,200
Speaker 3: now I have to leave these other guys. And so

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01:37:55,640 --> 01:37:57,400
Speaker 3: I think that when he hits all those points about

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01:37:57,479 --> 01:38:00,599
Speaker 3: leadership and having to be a part of that that room,

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01:38:00,640 --> 01:38:02,840
Speaker 3: and you think about it, yeah, various war got added

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01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:04,400
Speaker 3: to it, but he wasn't the leader of this room

2197
01:38:04,479 --> 01:38:07,040
Speaker 3: last year and that that's still Kenny Moore. So I

2198
01:38:07,080 --> 01:38:08,800
Speaker 3: think that that kind of sood out to me. And

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01:38:08,840 --> 01:38:13,680
Speaker 3: also the fact that you know, on a tangent, the

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01:38:13,720 --> 01:38:16,240
Speaker 3: guys's just an all around athlete. You know, you mentioned

2201
01:38:16,439 --> 01:38:18,160
Speaker 3: doing things did over summer. He's like, oh, yeah, I

2202
01:38:18,160 --> 01:38:20,080
Speaker 3: tried to hit up Paul Skins, you know from a machine.

2203
01:38:20,080 --> 01:38:23,200
Speaker 3: It's like, who does that besides Kenny Moore? So you know,

2204
01:38:23,360 --> 01:38:25,559
Speaker 3: and also I guess the couple of dumps that he

2205
01:38:25,600 --> 01:38:28,040
Speaker 3: had on on the on the show, but in reference

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01:38:28,080 --> 01:38:30,679
Speaker 3: to trying to win sure and at this point nine

2207
01:38:30,720 --> 01:38:32,360
Speaker 3: years in, what else is there left to do for

2208
01:38:32,439 --> 01:38:34,920
Speaker 3: Kenny Moore? When you've accomplished you know what you accomplished

2209
01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:37,200
Speaker 3: an undrafted player, you know you probably want just more

2210
01:38:37,240 --> 01:38:38,640
Speaker 3: of that team success. You want to go on a

2211
01:38:38,720 --> 01:38:40,920
Speaker 3: run and have be able to tell those stories about

2212
01:38:41,240 --> 01:38:43,439
Speaker 3: you know, having some playoff success.

2213
01:38:43,560 --> 01:38:45,200
Speaker 1: I shout out to Tucker barn and I already texted me.

2214
01:38:45,240 --> 01:38:46,840
Speaker 1: During the interview, he goes, one of the highlights of

2215
01:38:46,840 --> 01:38:49,200
Speaker 1: my major league career is pitching in the big league

2216
01:38:49,240 --> 01:38:51,240
Speaker 1: so that you can face me on the trae jeck.

2217
01:38:51,360 --> 01:38:54,120
Speaker 2: Nothing like the position player getting called in the pitch.

2218
01:38:54,720 --> 01:38:56,240
Speaker 2: So now you're in that machine.

2219
01:38:56,360 --> 01:38:58,439
Speaker 1: I don't know, but Tucker would have a chance to

2220
01:38:58,479 --> 01:39:01,960
Speaker 1: maybe fouling off of you as a traject pitcher, if

2221
01:39:01,960 --> 01:39:05,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying that right. But yeah, Kenny, you know, I've

2222
01:39:05,000 --> 01:39:07,160
Speaker 1: thought a couple of things stood out one, you know,

2223
01:39:07,200 --> 01:39:09,960
Speaker 1: certainly when he mentions the three players that he thinks,

2224
01:39:10,320 --> 01:39:13,000
Speaker 1: you know, could break, I think Alec Pierce has already

2225
01:39:13,080 --> 01:39:15,960
Speaker 1: established himself. Honestly, I think he's already proved himself at

2226
01:39:16,000 --> 01:39:18,040
Speaker 1: the NFL level. Like get he wants to expand his game.

2227
01:39:18,080 --> 01:39:20,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, you know, when you lead the NFL in

2228
01:39:20,160 --> 01:39:22,600
Speaker 1: yards per catch, I think you've done something there. He

2229
01:39:22,640 --> 01:39:25,040
Speaker 1: mentioned justin Wally, and then he mentioned Adi Mitchell and

2230
01:39:25,680 --> 01:39:28,960
Speaker 1: I mean James. We hear the Ady Mitchell from all

2231
01:39:29,120 --> 01:39:32,000
Speaker 1: different parts. Now we continue to hear it from people

2232
01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:36,240
Speaker 1: within the organization. We hear wideouts describe his game as

2233
01:39:36,400 --> 01:39:38,559
Speaker 1: you know, there are elements to his game that I

2234
01:39:38,600 --> 01:39:40,600
Speaker 1: want to implement in mind, and then to hear it

2235
01:39:40,600 --> 01:39:43,679
Speaker 1: from an opposing corner. I mean, there's just some god

2236
01:39:43,760 --> 01:39:46,479
Speaker 1: given talent that ad Mitchell has at the wide out

2237
01:39:46,479 --> 01:39:48,200
Speaker 1: position that frankly, I don't think anyone else in that

2238
01:39:48,280 --> 01:39:51,000
Speaker 1: room has. And you would hear. I remember Michael Pittman Jr.

2239
01:39:51,040 --> 01:39:53,559
Speaker 1: At this very table last year saying if there's something

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01:39:53,560 --> 01:39:55,360
Speaker 1: he could take from another white out in the room,

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01:39:55,720 --> 01:39:58,360
Speaker 1: it'd be the ease at which you know Adie Mitchell

2242
01:39:58,840 --> 01:40:00,640
Speaker 1: gets off the ball absolutely.

2243
01:40:00,720 --> 01:40:02,240
Speaker 3: I mean, the guy has talent. And you heard that

2244
01:40:02,360 --> 01:40:04,240
Speaker 3: for Kenny Moore is just can you put it together?

2245
01:40:04,439 --> 01:40:06,200
Speaker 3: We've seen it in the spring, we've seen it out

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01:40:06,200 --> 01:40:08,880
Speaker 3: here last year during training camp, but can we see

2247
01:40:08,920 --> 01:40:10,519
Speaker 3: it on Sunday when it matters the most? And I

2248
01:40:10,520 --> 01:40:13,400
Speaker 3: think he has that potential in Reggie. Wayne is quick

2249
01:40:13,439 --> 01:40:15,559
Speaker 3: to say, you know, a lot of you wrote off

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Speaker 3: Alec Pierce, you know, after he kind of struggled as

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01:40:17,800 --> 01:40:19,720
Speaker 3: a rookie, and then he took off in his second year,

2252
01:40:19,720 --> 01:40:21,360
Speaker 3: and then obviously last year he had a really big year.

2253
01:40:21,439 --> 01:40:24,160
Speaker 3: So it's not like the guys, four or five years

2254
01:40:24,200 --> 01:40:25,920
Speaker 3: into his career, we're still asking what are you doing.

2255
01:40:26,280 --> 01:40:29,080
Speaker 3: It's just, you know, as a second round pick, usually

2256
01:40:29,120 --> 01:40:30,559
Speaker 3: you gotta pop sooner rather than later.

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01:40:31,320 --> 01:40:34,519
Speaker 1: Tucker Barnhardt says this pitch was thirty seven miles per

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01:40:34,560 --> 01:40:37,360
Speaker 1: hour at the time, it was the tenth slowest cold

2259
01:40:37,439 --> 01:40:41,720
Speaker 1: strike in the stat cast era. That is excellent strike though,

2260
01:40:41,800 --> 01:40:45,680
Speaker 1: beautiful lot, that's hilarious.

2261
01:40:46,160 --> 01:40:47,080
Speaker 2: That is excellent.

2262
01:40:47,120 --> 01:40:48,960
Speaker 1: Josh Down scheduled to join us here a little bit

2263
01:40:49,040 --> 01:40:50,439
Speaker 1: late on the nine o'clock hour mark.

2264
01:40:50,479 --> 01:40:51,280
Speaker 2: Let's goad hit.

2265
01:40:51,240 --> 01:40:56,559
Speaker 1: The morning checkdout, the Morning checkout on Nutty Sweet five

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01:40:56,600 --> 01:41:01,439
Speaker 1: and one seven five the fan. All Right, James's gonna

2267
01:41:01,479 --> 01:41:04,479
Speaker 1: go over to listen to Zaire Franklin, so we'll get

2268
01:41:04,479 --> 01:41:06,080
Speaker 1: you through a morning check down here and then again.

2269
01:41:06,120 --> 01:41:08,720
Speaker 1: Should have Josh downs at some point here coming up

2270
01:41:08,760 --> 01:41:11,840
Speaker 1: in the nine o'clock hour tonight. The Indiana Fever are

2271
01:41:11,880 --> 01:41:14,559
Speaker 1: a big old underdog against the New York Liberty. Caitlin

2272
01:41:14,600 --> 01:41:16,559
Speaker 1: Clark we know is out an eleven and a half

2273
01:41:16,600 --> 01:41:19,720
Speaker 1: point underdog, I believe, is the official line on That.

2274
01:41:19,920 --> 01:41:23,240
Speaker 1: Sounds like she will get further evaluation from doctors and

2275
01:41:23,320 --> 01:41:23,840
Speaker 1: medical people.

2276
01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:25,240
Speaker 2: Who knows maybe being in New York.

2277
01:41:25,280 --> 01:41:27,599
Speaker 1: Sounds like she will travel the team, maybe some people

2278
01:41:27,600 --> 01:41:30,280
Speaker 1: out there she will speak with. But the week for

2279
01:41:30,320 --> 01:41:33,120
Speaker 1: the fever looks like this. At the Liberty Tonight hosts

2280
01:41:33,120 --> 01:41:36,799
Speaker 1: the Las Vegas Aces, Thursday at the Chicago Sky.

2281
01:41:36,720 --> 01:41:38,720
Speaker 2: Coming up on Sunday.

2282
01:41:38,800 --> 01:41:42,200
Speaker 1: So they returned from the All Star Break without their

2283
01:41:42,240 --> 01:41:46,679
Speaker 1: star point guard AMASIC Baseball yesday, Reds lose, Cubs got

2284
01:41:46,760 --> 01:41:48,439
Speaker 1: walloped Cardinals one.

2285
01:41:49,280 --> 01:41:50,439
Speaker 2: The Brewers are hot.

2286
01:41:50,680 --> 01:41:52,760
Speaker 1: And how about the end of the Phillies game last night, Mark,

2287
01:41:52,760 --> 01:41:55,120
Speaker 1: did you see that catcher's interference for the win?

2288
01:41:55,760 --> 01:41:57,880
Speaker 5: You don't see that very often at all, So that

2289
01:41:57,960 --> 01:41:59,200
Speaker 5: was a very odd end of the game.

2290
01:42:00,160 --> 01:42:03,479
Speaker 1: What are what are the rules on that I extend

2291
01:42:03,520 --> 01:42:07,000
Speaker 1: your glove pass? I mean, I guess is it even

2292
01:42:07,040 --> 01:42:09,280
Speaker 1: with the plate? I mean, I have no idea.

2293
01:42:09,400 --> 01:42:11,160
Speaker 5: I don't know, and I don't know how that's going

2294
01:42:11,200 --> 01:42:14,800
Speaker 5: to change when whenever they institute the whole robotic ump thing, like,

2295
01:42:14,840 --> 01:42:16,320
Speaker 5: how is that ever going to be called? I have

2296
01:42:16,360 --> 01:42:18,640
Speaker 5: no idea. There's a lot of confusing things going on

2297
01:42:18,720 --> 01:42:21,040
Speaker 5: in baseball. That is one of them.

2298
01:42:21,640 --> 01:42:24,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could not agree more on that front.

2299
01:42:25,280 --> 01:42:28,000
Speaker 1: Other items to note, Philip Rivers official announced his retirement

2300
01:42:28,120 --> 01:42:30,920
Speaker 1: yesterday Ard Michael Pittman Junior get asked about that just

2301
01:42:30,960 --> 01:42:33,880
Speaker 1: a few minutes ago. That's how long Michael Pittman Junior.

2302
01:42:34,080 --> 01:42:36,000
Speaker 1: I guess and Philip Rivers will play. The last time

2303
01:42:36,439 --> 01:42:38,920
Speaker 1: we saw Uncle Phil in the NFL, Michael Pittman Junior

2304
01:42:39,040 --> 01:42:40,840
Speaker 1: was a rookie in the league, which is kind of

2305
01:42:40,840 --> 01:42:45,080
Speaker 1: crazy to say. Big ten Media Day on Vegas, Kurtzignetti

2306
01:42:45,120 --> 01:42:47,400
Speaker 1: and company will meet the media. What do you think

2307
01:42:47,479 --> 01:42:49,840
Speaker 1: what type of sig are we going to get?

2308
01:42:50,600 --> 01:42:54,200
Speaker 5: Ooh? Yeah, I'm curious because I mean, I'm sure he's

2309
01:42:54,240 --> 01:42:58,520
Speaker 5: still going to be like you know, ego going and

2310
01:42:58,560 --> 01:43:00,840
Speaker 5: be a little cocky, But I don't know. If someone

2311
01:43:00,840 --> 01:43:03,880
Speaker 5: brings up that non conference schedule, I'm curious to see

2312
01:43:03,920 --> 01:43:04,840
Speaker 5: what his answer is going to be.

2313
01:43:06,080 --> 01:43:09,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see about Kurt signating field and those questions,

2314
01:43:09,280 --> 01:43:11,520
Speaker 1: just generally what type of personality we get.

2315
01:43:11,640 --> 01:43:14,360
Speaker 5: From him out of the lead. By the way, did

2316
01:43:14,400 --> 01:43:16,200
Speaker 5: we mention the Will Levis thing?

2317
01:43:16,680 --> 01:43:16,840
Speaker 2: Oh?

2318
01:43:16,920 --> 01:43:20,000
Speaker 1: I forgot that happened right after our show into yesterday. Yeah,

2319
01:43:20,120 --> 01:43:23,880
Speaker 1: so off season or off season shoulder surgery and he's

2320
01:43:23,880 --> 01:43:24,879
Speaker 1: out for the year, right.

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01:43:25,400 --> 01:43:29,240
Speaker 5: Out for the year. One flopping in Tennessee. I don't think.

2322
01:43:29,120 --> 01:43:32,360
Speaker 1: No, now Campbellard. Of course they took number one overall

2323
01:43:32,520 --> 01:43:34,000
Speaker 1: and the Colts play them. I want to say, it's

2324
01:43:34,000 --> 01:43:37,080
Speaker 1: week three and like week eight, so you would still think,

2325
01:43:37,200 --> 01:43:39,680
Speaker 1: like even if cam Ward had some early struggles that like,

2326
01:43:39,880 --> 01:43:41,920
Speaker 1: the Colts still would continue to see him.

2327
01:43:41,960 --> 01:43:42,080
Speaker 4: You know.

2328
01:43:42,120 --> 01:43:43,600
Speaker 1: Maybe sometimes you get late in the year you're like,

2329
01:43:43,640 --> 01:43:45,600
Speaker 1: you know what, maybe it's the best of our you know,

2330
01:43:45,680 --> 01:43:50,160
Speaker 1: young quarterback watches. But yeah, that news yesterday and I

2331
01:43:50,200 --> 01:43:52,240
Speaker 1: always felt this. I don't know if you feel this too, Mark,

2332
01:43:52,600 --> 01:43:54,360
Speaker 1: Like if you want to compare Anthony Richardson and Will

2333
01:43:54,439 --> 01:43:59,200
Speaker 1: Levis and how they've approached running in the NFL, Like,

2334
01:43:59,280 --> 01:44:02,719
Speaker 1: to me, Bill Levis has been reckless, like.

2335
01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:05,120
Speaker 2: Just yeah, taking on way.

2336
01:44:04,920 --> 01:44:07,559
Speaker 1: Too many hits, whereas I think Anthony Richardson's a little

2337
01:44:07,600 --> 01:44:10,920
Speaker 1: bit more of a I don't know, safer runner isn't

2338
01:44:10,920 --> 01:44:12,960
Speaker 1: probably the right term, but like, I don't feel like

2339
01:44:13,000 --> 01:44:15,000
Speaker 1: he's put him when he's put himself on the line.

2340
01:44:15,080 --> 01:44:18,639
Speaker 1: It hasn't been as many. Just frankly, I think stupid

2341
01:44:18,680 --> 01:44:21,600
Speaker 1: moments like Will Levis has, which again probably makes the

2342
01:44:21,680 --> 01:44:23,320
Speaker 1: Richardson injuries even more maddening.

2343
01:44:23,360 --> 01:44:25,479
Speaker 5: Will Levis kind of reminds me like when Baker Mayfield

2344
01:44:25,479 --> 01:44:26,960
Speaker 5: first came into the league and he was kind of

2345
01:44:26,960 --> 01:44:29,519
Speaker 5: like that lower in the shoulder and just taking unnecessary hits,

2346
01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:31,960
Speaker 5: and then eventually the coaching staff's like start sliding, man

2347
01:44:32,080 --> 01:44:33,680
Speaker 5: like start doing that. I feel like they need a

2348
01:44:34,120 --> 01:44:36,519
Speaker 5: pound that into Will Levis's head. Whoever his coaching staff

2349
01:44:36,600 --> 01:44:38,519
Speaker 5: is going to be going forward, whether it's with Tennessee

2350
01:44:38,560 --> 01:44:42,200
Speaker 5: or or not. But yeah, he's been quite reckless in

2351
01:44:42,200 --> 01:44:42,799
Speaker 5: the running.

2352
01:44:42,600 --> 01:44:46,120
Speaker 1: Game, and it's probably worth reminding as well, the Will

2353
01:44:46,240 --> 01:44:47,839
Speaker 1: Levis regime in Tennessee.

2354
01:44:48,200 --> 01:44:49,519
Speaker 2: None of them drafted him, you know.

2355
01:44:49,600 --> 01:44:52,719
Speaker 1: Right here in Indy it's still Shane Stikeen and Chris Ballard,

2356
01:44:52,840 --> 01:44:56,280
Speaker 1: whereas in Tennessee, obviously they drafted Cam Hoard. But Brian Callahan,

2357
01:44:56,320 --> 01:44:59,160
Speaker 1: their head coach, didn't draft Will Levis. And I think

2358
01:44:59,200 --> 01:45:01,640
Speaker 1: they got the chiefs assistant GM if I'm not mistaken,

2359
01:45:02,040 --> 01:45:05,439
Speaker 1: coming over, he obviously did not draft Will love Us either.

2360
01:45:05,520 --> 01:45:08,280
Speaker 1: All right, much more from Colt's report day at training camp,

2361
01:45:08,400 --> 01:45:10,800
Speaker 1: Zire Franklin meeting the media. Now James would have will

2362
01:45:10,840 --> 01:45:13,559
Speaker 1: recap of that. On the other side, Josh down scheduled

2363
01:45:13,560 --> 01:45:15,519
Speaker 1: to join us here a little bit later in the

2364
01:45:15,600 --> 01:45:18,880
Speaker 1: nine o'clock hour. This is the Fan Morning Show ninety

2365
01:45:18,880 --> 01:45:22,320
Speaker 1: three five on a seven five The Fan. We're back

2366
01:45:22,439 --> 01:45:26,080
Speaker 1: live here in Westfield. It is report day for Colts

2367
01:45:26,320 --> 01:45:28,800
Speaker 1: training camp. Thank you to Kenny Moore. The second fun

2368
01:45:28,880 --> 01:45:31,479
Speaker 1: chat with certainly one of the best stories on this

2369
01:45:31,520 --> 01:45:34,720
Speaker 1: Colts team heading into his ninth year, and that'll be

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Speaker 1: up on the podcast. Josh down scheduled to join us

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01:45:38,720 --> 01:45:40,840
Speaker 1: in a few I know James Boyd wrapping up with

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01:45:41,080 --> 01:45:43,599
Speaker 1: Zia Franklin on the other side of the tent here

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01:45:43,720 --> 01:45:46,720
Speaker 1: media session. It did sound like zay Or will not

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Speaker 1: be ready for the start of training camp tomorrow. That

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Speaker 1: was one of the questions that I had for Chris

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01:45:52,320 --> 01:45:55,120
Speaker 1: Ballard coming up later today. Again, there was some thought

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Speaker 1: even back in the spring that it might take a

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Speaker 1: few days. It's even more than a week into camp

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Speaker 1: for Zayre and Franklin to be ready. He had surgery

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Speaker 1: on his ankle early May. James Boyd Reed joins this

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01:46:07,160 --> 01:46:09,439
Speaker 1: now sounds like Zaya will not be ready for the

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Speaker 1: first day of practice tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Not be ready for the first day of practice and

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Speaker 3: possibly for the foreseeable future. He didn't put a timeline

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Speaker 3: on it. Said, he's still progressing. He said, he just

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Speaker 3: started running. He's feeling good as he's running. But obviously

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Speaker 3: it's a big difference between running and playing linebacker in

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Speaker 3: the NFL. So I'm just curious to see, you know again,

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Speaker 3: what does that linebacker group core kind of look like.

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Speaker 3: You know, we'll get a update later today, probably from

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01:46:30,680 --> 01:46:33,160
Speaker 3: Chris Ballard in regard to Jayleen Carlis, but will he

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01:46:33,240 --> 01:46:37,120
Speaker 3: be available to start camp? So definitely the most newsworthy

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01:46:37,200 --> 01:46:39,320
Speaker 3: item so far in the starting camp.

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01:46:39,400 --> 01:46:41,799
Speaker 1: Again, James we hinted at this a couple of times

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01:46:41,920 --> 01:46:44,439
Speaker 1: leading into camp that news from Franklin is not the

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Speaker 1: most shocking. The Counts thought even back in the spring

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Speaker 1: that he could miss a week or two into training camp. Now,

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Speaker 1: just because it's shocking doesn't mean the news isn't good.

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Speaker 1: You're installing a new defense. You want the quarterback of

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Speaker 1: that unit out there. And you know, again, we did

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01:47:01,600 --> 01:47:04,080
Speaker 1: the indispensable thing last week and I had him second

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01:47:04,120 --> 01:47:06,360
Speaker 1: on the list because you're gonna be looking for your

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01:47:06,360 --> 01:47:09,000
Speaker 1: program when you come out here to Grant Park tomorrow

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01:47:09,160 --> 01:47:11,120
Speaker 1: for some of these linebacker numbers, because they are not

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01:47:11,200 --> 01:47:16,160
Speaker 1: household names by any means, and you know, even Carlize James,

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01:47:17,360 --> 01:47:19,320
Speaker 1: we haven't crowned him yet. You know how many games

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01:47:19,360 --> 01:47:20,360
Speaker 1: did even played last year.

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01:47:20,560 --> 01:47:22,840
Speaker 2: He has a fifth round rookie making.

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01:47:23,000 --> 01:47:26,200
Speaker 1: A position switch as well, So that is certainly a

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01:47:26,240 --> 01:47:29,040
Speaker 1: news item that we have here. So again, louisn Rumo's

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01:47:29,080 --> 01:47:33,320
Speaker 1: early installation of a defense. We'll have some linebackers that

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01:47:33,479 --> 01:47:36,040
Speaker 1: you're not used to seeing out there with the starting lineup,

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01:47:36,040 --> 01:47:40,800
Speaker 1: and we'll see how early Zia Franklin gets out there.

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Speaker 1: And I assume, based off what he said, he'll open

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01:47:42,840 --> 01:47:44,360
Speaker 1: the camp on pup. I assume he'll be on the

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01:47:44,360 --> 01:47:47,320
Speaker 1: fifthly unable to perform list as we wait that a

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Speaker 1: little bit later today.

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Speaker 3: What else out to me about what he was talking

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01:47:50,560 --> 01:47:53,040
Speaker 3: about was just his excitement for luin Romo's defense. He

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01:47:53,080 --> 01:47:55,200
Speaker 3: was even saying himself, although I haven't been out there

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01:47:55,360 --> 01:47:58,000
Speaker 3: just yet in his defense, taking a bunch of notes

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01:47:58,080 --> 01:48:00,600
Speaker 3: and being excited about how he'll be to lies and

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01:48:01,040 --> 01:48:03,120
Speaker 3: Lou and Remo's defense, and then him and the Forest

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01:48:03,160 --> 01:48:06,879
Speaker 3: Buckner are both talking about how Lou Again, the overarching

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01:48:06,920 --> 01:48:08,720
Speaker 3: thing I'm kind of hearing from players is that he

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01:48:08,720 --> 01:48:11,519
Speaker 3: doesn't care what your resume looks like there. And I

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01:48:11,520 --> 01:48:14,320
Speaker 3: think there is a certain level of that that every

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01:48:14,320 --> 01:48:16,120
Speaker 3: coach has to have. But when you're the new coach,

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01:48:16,720 --> 01:48:18,120
Speaker 3: I mean, how much do they really care about what

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01:48:18,200 --> 01:48:19,680
Speaker 3: you did last year? If I wasn't even here to

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01:48:19,680 --> 01:48:21,240
Speaker 3: see you do it, you know, really pay attention to

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01:48:21,280 --> 01:48:22,760
Speaker 3: you do it. I'm not clue is probably watch a

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01:48:22,760 --> 01:48:25,680
Speaker 3: ton of film on these guys, but I mean you

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01:48:25,760 --> 01:48:28,000
Speaker 3: kind of have to earn your respect again with the

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01:48:28,040 --> 01:48:30,439
Speaker 3: new coach, and that excites zi are front sacks to

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01:48:30,479 --> 01:48:33,920
Speaker 3: Forrest Buckner and so we'll see where this defense can go,

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01:48:34,040 --> 01:48:35,839
Speaker 3: what steps they can do to take a step forward.

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01:48:35,880 --> 01:48:38,320
Speaker 3: And honestly, you know, also again as some of the

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01:48:38,360 --> 01:48:42,479
Speaker 3: statistics like points allowed, wise, they can't get much worse.

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01:48:42,560 --> 01:48:43,920
Speaker 3: I mean they've been at the bottom of the league

2441
01:48:44,320 --> 01:48:47,160
Speaker 3: the last three years, at least three years under Gus Bradley,

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01:48:47,160 --> 01:48:49,840
Speaker 3: they were in the mid twenties or you know, the

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01:48:49,920 --> 01:48:52,160
Speaker 3: high twenties out of the you know, the thirty plus

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01:48:52,160 --> 01:48:55,680
Speaker 3: teams in the league when it comes to defense and

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01:48:55,760 --> 01:48:59,559
Speaker 3: defensive scoring and giving up points. And so if you're

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01:48:59,680 --> 01:49:01,840
Speaker 3: a guess, it's an optimist, you're thinking, you know, of

2447
01:49:01,880 --> 01:49:03,559
Speaker 3: course they're going to get better because they have no

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01:49:03,720 --> 01:49:05,439
Speaker 3: really no other option, but to get better.

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Speaker 1: We're expecting Josh downs at about ten minutes, James. I

2450
01:49:08,400 --> 01:49:11,800
Speaker 1: thought something that Kenny said that kind of caught my

2451
01:49:12,000 --> 01:49:15,160
Speaker 1: ear was when he was over there in the media

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01:49:15,160 --> 01:49:18,200
Speaker 1: session he used the word proactive to describe the most

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01:49:18,200 --> 01:49:22,080
Speaker 1: defense before he hopped on air. I kind of offered

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01:49:22,080 --> 01:49:24,559
Speaker 1: my own interpretation of that. I said, Okay, I think

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01:49:24,600 --> 01:49:28,599
Speaker 1: proactive means you're going to play more press man, You're

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01:49:28,640 --> 01:49:30,599
Speaker 1: going to disguise a little bit more. You don't want

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01:49:30,640 --> 01:49:32,680
Speaker 1: to react to what the officers are doing again, you

2458
01:49:32,720 --> 01:49:34,280
Speaker 1: want to be a little bit more of let's try

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01:49:34,320 --> 01:49:36,600
Speaker 1: and dictate to the offense. He's spun it in a

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01:49:36,600 --> 01:49:40,320
Speaker 1: different way with us. He's spun it in the preparation way.

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01:49:40,960 --> 01:49:43,400
Speaker 1: And as we're sitting here right now, we're even with

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01:49:43,479 --> 01:49:46,120
Speaker 1: the end zone on this north practice field and you

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01:49:46,160 --> 01:49:48,360
Speaker 1: can see the letters right there in the end zone,

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01:49:48,640 --> 01:49:51,320
Speaker 1: and all four end zones here at Grand Park have

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01:49:51,520 --> 01:49:55,040
Speaker 1: these core values that Shane Steiken has for his football team,

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Speaker 1: and one of those four core values is preparation. And

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Speaker 1: I know I hit on this last week with you,

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01:49:59,400 --> 01:50:01,719
Speaker 1: but I think when Kenny said that it's worth bringing

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01:50:01,760 --> 01:50:07,400
Speaker 1: up again. It always surprised me that Shane was such

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01:50:07,720 --> 01:50:14,160
Speaker 1: a acceptor of Gus Bradley's defense that lacked preparation from

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01:50:14,160 --> 01:50:15,240
Speaker 1: opposing offenses.

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01:50:16,240 --> 01:50:18,679
Speaker 2: You know, you hear these opposing you get.

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01:50:18,560 --> 01:50:21,080
Speaker 3: Lacked preparation or was that just by design to kind

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01:50:21,080 --> 01:50:22,080
Speaker 3: of give them the underneath?

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01:50:22,120 --> 01:50:23,719
Speaker 2: I mean a lot of that, right, all.

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01:50:23,640 --> 01:50:27,120
Speaker 1: Right, I guess let me reward that that didn't come

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01:50:27,160 --> 01:50:31,240
Speaker 1: out how I wanted it sound. Opposing teams felt like

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01:50:31,360 --> 01:50:34,080
Speaker 1: they didn't have to spend a lot of time preparently defense.

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01:50:34,160 --> 01:50:35,040
Speaker 2: Yes, that's what I'm meant.

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01:50:35,479 --> 01:50:40,759
Speaker 1: That they didn't stress you mentally a lot Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,

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01:50:40,800 --> 01:50:43,599
Speaker 1: like there wasn't a lot to get ready for. And

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01:50:43,680 --> 01:50:46,120
Speaker 1: when I said proactive to Kenny and asked him to

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01:50:46,200 --> 01:50:50,320
Speaker 1: expand on that, he said that from a preparation standpoint,

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Speaker 1: knowing who we are going against, he feels like that

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01:50:53,720 --> 01:50:56,879
Speaker 1: will be a little bit more of something that frankly,

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01:50:56,960 --> 01:50:58,880
Speaker 1: they just do. So I don't know, It's not what

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01:50:58,920 --> 01:51:01,639
Speaker 1: I was expecting from him, but it makes sense one

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01:51:01,680 --> 01:51:02,600
Speaker 1: to excite.

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01:51:02,600 --> 01:51:03,559
Speaker 2: No, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of it has to do with

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01:51:06,200 --> 01:51:08,880
Speaker 3: the ability, especially in this league, and you hear players

2492
01:51:08,880 --> 01:51:11,439
Speaker 3: talk about the time, especially with the quarterbacks and their

2493
01:51:11,479 --> 01:51:14,080
Speaker 3: ability to do different things. A lot of the more

2494
01:51:14,160 --> 01:51:15,840
Speaker 3: dual threat, you want to be able to throw different

2495
01:51:15,840 --> 01:51:17,559
Speaker 3: things at them. And so when you give them the

2496
01:51:17,560 --> 01:51:20,559
Speaker 3: same recipe, I mean, how many times can you cut

2497
01:51:20,600 --> 01:51:23,880
Speaker 3: a team who watched the Colts last year and no

2498
01:51:23,880 --> 01:51:25,599
Speaker 3: matter the opponent been like, Okay, this is what they're

2499
01:51:25,600 --> 01:51:25,960
Speaker 3: gonna do.

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01:51:26,439 --> 01:51:27,400
Speaker 2: That's just not gonna be the case.

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01:51:27,439 --> 01:51:27,960
Speaker 4: Low and Rumo.

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01:51:28,000 --> 01:51:29,840
Speaker 3: It's never been his mo, and that's what they call him,

2503
01:51:29,880 --> 01:51:31,840
Speaker 3: Lou Daney and the mad scientists, and I get all

2504
01:51:31,840 --> 01:51:34,640
Speaker 3: the jokes, but one of his greatest strengths as a

2505
01:51:34,680 --> 01:51:38,000
Speaker 3: defensive coordinator and one of his biggest appeals to I

2506
01:51:38,040 --> 01:51:41,240
Speaker 3: believe this coach's front office, in this coach coaching staff,

2507
01:51:41,360 --> 01:51:43,640
Speaker 3: was that the fact that he's gonna challenge you and

2508
01:51:43,760 --> 01:51:46,360
Speaker 3: in turn, you know, will that help you, you know,

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01:51:46,520 --> 01:51:49,200
Speaker 3: get some wins that you're not supposed to or in

2510
01:51:49,200 --> 01:51:51,400
Speaker 3: turn create some more turnovers and perhaps weren't going to

2511
01:51:51,439 --> 01:51:53,880
Speaker 3: be there before in years past. And so I think

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01:51:53,920 --> 01:51:56,000
Speaker 3: a lot of that has to do with Lou and Roumo,

2513
01:51:56,120 --> 01:51:59,880
Speaker 3: the new defense, the chameleon like approach, and also the talent.

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01:52:00,439 --> 01:52:02,800
Speaker 3: I mean, we can't overlook the fact that as much

2515
01:52:02,800 --> 01:52:05,559
Speaker 3: as I do want to mention that Guz Bradley struggled

2516
01:52:05,560 --> 01:52:08,360
Speaker 3: and maybe he wasn't the answer. He also didn't get

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01:52:08,400 --> 01:52:10,439
Speaker 3: the kind of personnel that Lu and Rumol just got,

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01:52:10,479 --> 01:52:11,720
Speaker 3: you know, with the upgrades.

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01:52:11,360 --> 01:52:13,680
Speaker 1: To the secondary. Sure that is without question, that's the

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01:52:13,760 --> 01:52:15,479
Speaker 1: voice of James Boyd. I'm Kevin bow When we are

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01:52:15,520 --> 01:52:18,679
Speaker 1: live here at Grand Park, let's take our final break

2522
01:52:18,800 --> 01:52:21,960
Speaker 1: of the show. On the other side, Josh Down's the

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01:52:22,040 --> 01:52:25,120
Speaker 1: third year wide out out of North Carolina. He is

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01:52:25,160 --> 01:52:28,559
Speaker 1: scheduled to join us here report day from Grand Park.

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01:52:28,720 --> 01:52:31,680
Speaker 1: It is a beautiful Tuesday morning here the rest of

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01:52:31,720 --> 01:52:35,000
Speaker 1: the week. Hopefully we'll cooperate weatherwise. Josh Downs scheduled to

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01:52:35,080 --> 01:52:38,719
Speaker 1: join us coming up next. Hi, We're back one final

2528
01:52:38,800 --> 01:52:43,360
Speaker 1: time here in Westfield Grand Park. Of course, Colt training

2529
01:52:43,400 --> 01:52:47,719
Speaker 1: camp get underway tomorrow at ten am practice time. Josh

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01:52:47,720 --> 01:52:50,559
Speaker 1: Downs scheduled to join us here in just a couple

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01:52:51,320 --> 01:52:54,400
Speaker 1: of minutes. Currently Quity pay and being the media. Jonathan

2532
01:52:54,600 --> 01:52:59,439
Speaker 1: Taylor going to be up next after that. So I've

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01:52:59,439 --> 01:53:02,840
Speaker 1: been a busier porte from a media player standpoint.

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01:53:02,880 --> 01:53:03,120
Speaker 4: Thank you.

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01:53:03,240 --> 01:53:06,280
Speaker 1: Kenny Moore of the second earlier Chris Baller going to

2536
01:53:06,320 --> 01:53:11,040
Speaker 1: meet the media at noon and are probably the biggest

2537
01:53:11,040 --> 01:53:13,800
Speaker 1: news item so far, which again not the most unexpected

2538
01:53:13,880 --> 01:53:16,559
Speaker 1: news item, but not great is that Zia Franklin did

2539
01:53:16,560 --> 01:53:20,600
Speaker 1: share that he's not expected to start training camp and

2540
01:53:20,640 --> 01:53:24,280
Speaker 1: again he had that May ankle surgery and it sounds

2541
01:53:24,320 --> 01:53:27,000
Speaker 1: like that will impact him here in the first couple

2542
01:53:27,040 --> 01:53:28,760
Speaker 1: of weeks and he will not be out there. So

2543
01:53:29,200 --> 01:53:30,920
Speaker 1: he could get word a little bit later today that

2544
01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:33,280
Speaker 1: he is on the physically unable to perform list and

2545
01:53:34,000 --> 01:53:37,320
Speaker 1: just not ideal for one of the more important players

2546
01:53:37,400 --> 01:53:39,800
Speaker 1: on the Colts squads.

2547
01:53:39,840 --> 01:53:43,120
Speaker 2: Again, Josh Ballen's scheduled to join us in a.

2548
01:53:43,200 --> 01:53:45,479
Speaker 1: Few James Boyd just got done with Quitty Pay at

2549
01:53:45,520 --> 01:53:49,280
Speaker 1: the contract here for Quitty Pay. How was that conversation,

2550
01:53:49,439 --> 01:53:50,000
Speaker 1: mister Boyd.

2551
01:53:50,080 --> 01:53:51,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's still going for a little bit there, but

2552
01:53:51,840 --> 01:53:53,799
Speaker 3: I got, you know, the gist of it. He's didn't

2553
01:53:53,840 --> 01:53:56,360
Speaker 3: mention that, you know, yes, I'm aware it's a contract

2554
01:53:56,400 --> 01:53:57,160
Speaker 3: year and he wants to.

2555
01:53:57,080 --> 01:53:58,920
Speaker 2: Play well, but he also talked about.

2556
01:54:00,120 --> 01:54:02,280
Speaker 3: Wanting to, you know, take the other step in his game,

2557
01:54:02,479 --> 01:54:05,320
Speaker 3: and is that a possibility in Leu and Roumo's defense,

2558
01:54:05,479 --> 01:54:07,880
Speaker 3: which I would imagine is probably more aggressive or at

2559
01:54:07,920 --> 01:54:11,280
Speaker 3: least a little bit more aggressive at times than you know,

2560
01:54:11,320 --> 01:54:13,960
Speaker 3: Gus Bradley's was, and so I think he's going into

2561
01:54:14,000 --> 01:54:16,880
Speaker 3: a really big year. I think for him and the DN,

2562
01:54:16,920 --> 01:54:18,800
Speaker 3: who will probably be opposite of him and allowed to

2563
01:54:18,920 --> 01:54:21,000
Speaker 3: Lots two, they're both going into big pivotal years I

2564
01:54:21,000 --> 01:54:23,599
Speaker 3: would say in their career. Is because on one hand,

2565
01:54:23,640 --> 01:54:26,000
Speaker 3: for Quitty, you know, he wants to get paid, I

2566
01:54:26,040 --> 01:54:29,639
Speaker 3: would imagine as all of us do. But also as

2567
01:54:29,680 --> 01:54:32,240
Speaker 3: he said, I've had you know, good years. Can I

2568
01:54:32,280 --> 01:54:33,960
Speaker 3: have a great year? And then for lo out to

2569
01:54:34,000 --> 01:54:36,360
Speaker 3: a Lot two, it's like, okay, well hit the rookie

2570
01:54:36,400 --> 01:54:38,520
Speaker 3: wall you know, last year, and it may be tapered

2571
01:54:38,520 --> 01:54:40,360
Speaker 3: off a bit, but can I make that jump as

2572
01:54:40,360 --> 01:54:42,560
Speaker 3: well to being a game changer and being a game wrecker.

2573
01:54:43,040 --> 01:54:44,800
Speaker 3: And again, I think a lot of them were just saying,

2574
01:54:44,960 --> 01:54:47,200
Speaker 3: you know, we need opportunities to go out there and

2575
01:54:47,240 --> 01:54:49,600
Speaker 3: improve ourselves and capitalize on it. But one thing that

2576
01:54:49,600 --> 01:54:53,400
Speaker 3: stood out to me Kevin was Quitty said, you know,

2577
01:54:54,080 --> 01:54:55,240
Speaker 3: I feel like this is gonna be a really good

2578
01:54:55,320 --> 01:54:57,280
Speaker 3: year and we weren to go far in the playoffs,

2579
01:54:57,320 --> 01:54:59,080
Speaker 3: and I was like, wait a second, hold on, And

2580
01:54:59,120 --> 01:55:01,080
Speaker 3: I had to follow up and say, well, what gives

2581
01:55:01,080 --> 01:55:02,320
Speaker 3: you that belief is you going to go far in

2582
01:55:02,360 --> 01:55:04,520
Speaker 3: the playoffs when you have made the plaus in four years.

2583
01:55:05,240 --> 01:55:08,560
Speaker 3: And he said that he feels like in years past

2584
01:55:08,600 --> 01:55:10,480
Speaker 3: it would kind of shy away from putting all despertations

2585
01:55:10,520 --> 01:55:13,000
Speaker 3: out there early on, but he was like, well why not,

2586
01:55:13,240 --> 01:55:14,400
Speaker 3: you know, if that's what you're trying to do. So

2587
01:55:14,440 --> 01:55:16,760
Speaker 3: he's like, this year, it's playoffs. Playoffs, playoffs are busts.

2588
01:55:16,800 --> 01:55:19,760
Speaker 3: And so I would honestly think that he is echoing

2589
01:55:20,120 --> 01:55:22,360
Speaker 3: what many around the building, and perhaps in that front office,

2590
01:55:22,360 --> 01:55:24,760
Speaker 3: perhaps with ownership and Carli Ersa Gordon and her sisters

2591
01:55:25,040 --> 01:55:27,120
Speaker 3: probably think as well, it's playoffs are bus.

2592
01:55:26,880 --> 01:55:28,920
Speaker 1: You know, we have hit on this a little bit,

2593
01:55:29,000 --> 01:55:30,920
Speaker 1: especially when the schedule came out in May, and I

2594
01:55:30,960 --> 01:55:32,840
Speaker 1: know we'll do it a lot here over the next

2595
01:55:32,840 --> 01:55:36,400
Speaker 1: six weeks, but I cannot stress enough I think.

2596
01:55:36,240 --> 01:55:37,880
Speaker 2: The first two weeks are just.

2597
01:55:38,000 --> 01:55:42,240
Speaker 1: Incredibly vital that goal to be realistic. You know, right

2598
01:55:42,240 --> 01:55:44,680
Speaker 1: out of the gate, it is Miami and Denver week one,

2599
01:55:44,680 --> 01:55:47,120
Speaker 1: a week two, and you know, I know it's not

2600
01:55:47,160 --> 01:55:50,040
Speaker 1: a given that we're gonna have the same final four

2601
01:55:50,120 --> 01:55:51,040
Speaker 1: that we had last year.

2602
01:55:51,040 --> 01:55:52,640
Speaker 2: We have had the same final four in each the

2603
01:55:52,720 --> 01:55:54,320
Speaker 2: last two years in the AFC.

2604
01:55:54,560 --> 01:55:57,000
Speaker 1: That would be Buffalo, that would be Baltimore, that would

2605
01:55:57,000 --> 01:55:58,040
Speaker 1: be Houston, and that would.

2606
01:55:57,840 --> 01:55:58,520
Speaker 2: Be Kansas City.

2607
01:55:58,560 --> 01:56:00,919
Speaker 1: Well, all four of those teams are in different divisions,

2608
01:56:01,200 --> 01:56:04,520
Speaker 1: and if all four of those teams win their respective divisions,

2609
01:56:05,040 --> 01:56:07,560
Speaker 1: that means the Colts would be in the wildcard mix.

2610
01:56:07,600 --> 01:56:10,120
Speaker 1: That means Denver would be in the wildcard mix. That

2611
01:56:10,160 --> 01:56:12,640
Speaker 1: means Miami would be in the wildcard mix. All three

2612
01:56:12,640 --> 01:56:17,120
Speaker 1: of those teams were in the playoff hunt late last season,

2613
01:56:17,280 --> 01:56:20,480
Speaker 1: and the Colts beat Miami without TUA earlier in the

2614
01:56:20,520 --> 01:56:22,960
Speaker 1: season last year, and then they lost, of course, the

2615
01:56:23,040 --> 01:56:25,000
Speaker 1: very critical game late in the year to Denver, which

2616
01:56:25,040 --> 01:56:30,440
Speaker 1: pretty much ended any realistic playoff path. So I right,

2617
01:56:30,960 --> 01:56:33,960
Speaker 1: Week one and two in your own building, you've got

2618
01:56:34,000 --> 01:56:37,480
Speaker 1: two teams that I think will be in your general

2619
01:56:37,600 --> 01:56:41,480
Speaker 1: range to be a playoff team. They might not resonate

2620
01:56:41,520 --> 01:56:45,480
Speaker 1: on September seventh and September fourteenth, but they will resonate

2621
01:56:45,560 --> 01:56:49,360
Speaker 1: a whole whole lot I think come December. So I

2622
01:56:49,400 --> 01:56:51,520
Speaker 1: just think those first two games, I get that. You know,

2623
01:56:51,520 --> 01:56:54,000
Speaker 1: when you haven't one of the season openers since twenty thirteen,

2624
01:56:54,400 --> 01:56:57,040
Speaker 1: that early in the season, those games naturally probably carry

2625
01:56:57,040 --> 01:57:00,280
Speaker 1: a little bit more weight. But boy, I think out

2626
01:57:00,280 --> 01:57:02,200
Speaker 1: of the gate, if somehow you can go to and oh,

2627
01:57:02,360 --> 01:57:03,640
Speaker 1: I think you've got a great chance to be a

2628
01:57:03,640 --> 01:57:04,280
Speaker 1: playoff team.

2629
01:57:04,320 --> 01:57:07,400
Speaker 2: If you don't, then I think you could be swimming upstream.

2630
01:57:07,520 --> 01:57:10,200
Speaker 3: And you know what's always fascinating to me about the

2631
01:57:10,320 --> 01:57:13,040
Speaker 3: NFL is that if you start off oh and two,

2632
01:57:13,520 --> 01:57:14,520
Speaker 3: the likely to have you make.

2633
01:57:14,400 --> 01:57:16,200
Speaker 2: In the playoffs drops dramatically.

2634
01:57:16,680 --> 01:57:18,360
Speaker 3: And you're thinking, oh, it's just oh and too, you

2635
01:57:18,480 --> 01:57:21,880
Speaker 3: got fifteen more games to go, but no, it's it's statistically,

2636
01:57:21,960 --> 01:57:25,200
Speaker 3: if you look throughout the years, it is very hard

2637
01:57:25,240 --> 01:57:27,040
Speaker 3: to usually make up that ground and to get into

2638
01:57:27,040 --> 01:57:28,920
Speaker 3: the playoffs for whatever reason. And I think it's just

2639
01:57:28,960 --> 01:57:31,920
Speaker 3: the nature of the league having less games obviously than

2640
01:57:32,080 --> 01:57:35,840
Speaker 3: you know, the NBA or a college bass or something

2641
01:57:35,840 --> 01:57:38,000
Speaker 3: like that. But that's that oh and two hole is tough.

2642
01:57:38,480 --> 01:57:40,720
Speaker 3: But honestly, you know, I don't want to get too

2643
01:57:40,720 --> 01:57:43,200
Speaker 3: greedy here, Kevin. I know, to and oh would be great,

2644
01:57:43,240 --> 01:57:46,440
Speaker 3: but I'm like, just split something, you know, split them

2645
01:57:46,800 --> 01:57:48,560
Speaker 3: and get off to a start where you're not always

2646
01:57:48,600 --> 01:57:50,920
Speaker 3: facing an uphill battle. Because that's another thing that the Colts,

2647
01:57:51,760 --> 01:57:53,720
Speaker 3: at least in years past have kind of faced is

2648
01:57:53,760 --> 01:57:56,280
Speaker 3: that they'll start off a little bit slow and they'll

2649
01:57:56,280 --> 01:57:58,520
Speaker 3: get a little you know behind, I guess in the

2650
01:57:58,520 --> 01:58:00,800
Speaker 3: one loss column, and then they'll could a strive, but

2651
01:58:00,880 --> 01:58:04,880
Speaker 3: by then it's you're playing uphill so much that you

2652
01:58:05,000 --> 01:58:07,080
Speaker 3: have no margin for arrow. So when you do have,

2653
01:58:07,560 --> 01:58:09,160
Speaker 3: you know, a loss that probably should have been a

2654
01:58:09,160 --> 01:58:11,360
Speaker 3: win or something like that, you're on the outside looking in.

2655
01:58:11,640 --> 01:58:15,240
Speaker 1: I touched on the Zire Franklin news that probably is

2656
01:58:15,280 --> 01:58:17,160
Speaker 1: the newsiest thing we've heard from players. So yeah, for

2657
01:58:17,280 --> 01:58:19,760
Speaker 1: sure for today again, Chris Ball are going to meet

2658
01:58:19,760 --> 01:58:22,040
Speaker 1: the media coming up at noon, so we'll see anything

2659
01:58:22,360 --> 01:58:25,000
Speaker 1: more on that front, just from a news item standpoint.

2660
01:58:25,040 --> 01:58:28,720
Speaker 1: But you know, honestly, players appearing on pop Zire Franklin

2661
01:58:28,800 --> 01:58:31,280
Speaker 1: is one that I thought very well could show up

2662
01:58:31,320 --> 01:58:31,880
Speaker 1: on that list.

2663
01:58:31,920 --> 01:58:33,680
Speaker 2: So still the thing official on that.

2664
01:58:33,760 --> 01:58:36,080
Speaker 1: But again he did say recovery from that May surgery

2665
01:58:36,520 --> 01:58:39,280
Speaker 1: seems to be taking or going to take some time

2666
01:58:39,280 --> 01:58:39,920
Speaker 1: here at Grand Park.

2667
01:58:39,960 --> 01:58:41,480
Speaker 2: He did say he's running, Is that correct?

2668
01:58:41,640 --> 01:58:41,840
Speaker 4: Yes?

2669
01:58:41,960 --> 01:58:44,560
Speaker 1: Okay, So that is a little bit of news item

2670
01:58:44,600 --> 01:58:48,200
Speaker 1: from the Colts defensive captain. If you missed it earlier.

2671
01:58:48,440 --> 01:58:52,640
Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark officially is out for tonight they are an

2672
01:58:52,640 --> 01:58:55,560
Speaker 1: eleven and a half point underdog here with the New

2673
01:58:55,640 --> 01:59:00,280
Speaker 1: York Liberty, and Thursday will be Asia Wilson in the

2674
01:59:00,320 --> 01:59:04,120
Speaker 1: building the Vegas Aces. Sunday will be the Chicago Sky.

2675
01:59:04,360 --> 01:59:06,800
Speaker 1: So again, the Kaitlin Clark News. I don't think it's

2676
01:59:06,800 --> 01:59:09,720
Speaker 1: shocking to really any of us, But nonetheless, the Fever

2677
01:59:09,800 --> 01:59:13,720
Speaker 1: will begin the second half of the season without their start.

2678
01:59:14,000 --> 01:59:17,400
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and I think that's a big development and something

2679
01:59:17,400 --> 01:59:19,360
Speaker 3: that we obviously expected. I don't think any of us

2680
01:59:19,400 --> 01:59:21,080
Speaker 3: thought that she would be available for the start of

2681
01:59:21,120 --> 01:59:23,640
Speaker 3: the second half of the season. But now the question is, Kevin,

2682
01:59:23,680 --> 01:59:27,480
Speaker 3: can you get her healthy, fully healthy during this part

2683
01:59:27,520 --> 01:59:29,560
Speaker 3: of the season. And honestly, you know, I think that's

2684
01:59:29,560 --> 01:59:33,320
Speaker 3: a fair question because with growing injuries and muscle tissue

2685
01:59:33,320 --> 01:59:36,920
Speaker 3: injuries and non context though some of that stuff, you

2686
01:59:37,040 --> 01:59:38,160
Speaker 3: have to literally just sit.

2687
01:59:38,040 --> 01:59:39,360
Speaker 2: Down and wait for it to get better.

2688
01:59:39,520 --> 01:59:42,080
Speaker 3: And what does that look like when you're also trying

2689
01:59:42,120 --> 01:59:44,200
Speaker 3: to make sure you're ready to go when you can

2690
01:59:44,240 --> 01:59:47,240
Speaker 3: play again. So it is probably a bit frustrated for

2691
01:59:47,280 --> 01:59:49,240
Speaker 3: Kaitlyn Clark. I hope that she got a nice mental

2692
01:59:49,280 --> 01:59:51,880
Speaker 3: break at least during the All Star break, but in

2693
01:59:51,920 --> 01:59:54,200
Speaker 3: the meantime, Kelsey Mitchell said, we can't feel sorry for Ussel.

2694
01:59:54,240 --> 01:59:55,480
Speaker 3: We got to go out there and still be able

2695
01:59:55,480 --> 01:59:56,920
Speaker 3: to stack some wins and tread water.

2696
01:59:57,440 --> 01:59:59,200
Speaker 1: I think time wise, we're going to be a little

2697
01:59:59,240 --> 02:00:01,600
Speaker 1: tight here with Josh, So I think our plan might

2698
02:00:01,640 --> 02:00:03,920
Speaker 1: be to record Josh right after the show and then

2699
02:00:03,960 --> 02:00:06,240
Speaker 1: we'll play that for you coming up on tomorrow's show.

2700
02:00:06,320 --> 02:00:10,160
Speaker 1: Certainly a lot of Chris Ballard audio and Kenny Moore.

2701
02:00:10,240 --> 02:00:11,920
Speaker 1: The second was with this earlier. I thought one of

2702
02:00:11,960 --> 02:00:14,640
Speaker 1: the things that stood out to me from our conversation

2703
02:00:14,880 --> 02:00:17,400
Speaker 1: with Kenny is, you know, I just kind of asked

2704
02:00:17,440 --> 02:00:20,959
Speaker 1: him generally about Justin Wally, the rookie corner out of Minnesota.

2705
02:00:20,960 --> 02:00:22,920
Speaker 2: He's a player that this coaching Stavis.

2706
02:00:22,520 --> 02:00:25,880
Speaker 1: Mentioned quite a bit, and I think Kenny kind of

2707
02:00:25,920 --> 02:00:28,080
Speaker 1: went out of his own way to say, well, there

2708
02:00:28,120 --> 02:00:30,920
Speaker 1: are three players that I think you know, will have

2709
02:00:32,200 --> 02:00:34,200
Speaker 1: I'm putting words in his mouth, but you know, breakout

2710
02:00:34,240 --> 02:00:37,200
Speaker 1: seasons or something along those lines. He mentioned Alec Pierce

2711
02:00:38,240 --> 02:00:41,080
Speaker 1: and then he mentioned Wally, and then the other player

2712
02:00:41,120 --> 02:00:45,880
Speaker 1: he did mention was Ady Mitchell. I think Pierce has

2713
02:00:46,080 --> 02:00:49,400
Speaker 1: already proven he can do something of note at the

2714
02:00:49,520 --> 02:00:52,360
Speaker 1: NFL level, Mitchell and Wally. Of course he would not

2715
02:00:52,400 --> 02:00:54,920
Speaker 1: put in that category. Of those two, who would you

2716
02:00:55,000 --> 02:00:58,080
Speaker 1: be more confident in Adi Mitchell or Justin Wally?

2717
02:00:58,160 --> 02:00:59,840
Speaker 2: Here in the year of twenty twenty.

2718
02:00:59,600 --> 02:01:01,680
Speaker 3: Five, I probably rolle with Ady Mitchell just because I've

2719
02:01:01,800 --> 02:01:05,200
Speaker 3: least seen something, you know, and he's played in some games.

2720
02:01:05,200 --> 02:01:07,240
Speaker 3: I don't even have a lot of big performances. Last

2721
02:01:07,280 --> 02:01:08,920
Speaker 3: year didn't have a lot of big moments. But I'll

2722
02:01:08,920 --> 02:01:11,440
Speaker 3: probably always lean towards the guy that has played some

2723
02:01:11,560 --> 02:01:14,120
Speaker 3: NFL games versus the guy who has not. And again

2724
02:01:14,240 --> 02:01:17,640
Speaker 3: let's not forget that, you know, yes, the Colts is

2725
02:01:17,720 --> 02:01:19,880
Speaker 3: board looked a lot different than maybe the you know,

2726
02:01:20,000 --> 02:01:23,720
Speaker 3: mock drafts and things of that nature. However, it was

2727
02:01:23,800 --> 02:01:26,040
Speaker 3: a surprising pick when Justin Wady got picked up by

2728
02:01:26,080 --> 02:01:28,680
Speaker 3: the Colts, and not saying that he can't play. He

2729
02:01:28,720 --> 02:01:31,560
Speaker 3: certainly has impressed his coaches so far. But I'm gonna

2730
02:01:31,600 --> 02:01:33,600
Speaker 3: lean towards this guy who who's played NFL games before.

2731
02:01:33,920 --> 02:01:36,480
Speaker 1: What indicates the start of training camp, more to you,

2732
02:01:36,680 --> 02:01:39,360
Speaker 1: the crow crowing as we walk out on the practice

2733
02:01:39,360 --> 02:01:42,200
Speaker 1: fields of Grand Park, the start of a mower or

2734
02:01:42,240 --> 02:01:43,800
Speaker 1: a golf cart going in reverse.

2735
02:01:45,680 --> 02:01:47,520
Speaker 2: It might be the golf cart in reverse.

2736
02:01:48,160 --> 02:01:49,320
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor exited.

2737
02:01:49,400 --> 02:01:51,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, you should say darthn.

2738
02:01:51,160 --> 02:01:53,320
Speaker 1: Taylor exiting the premises because up here.

2739
02:01:53,200 --> 02:01:54,880
Speaker 2: A grand park that's been known to be a lot

2740
02:01:54,880 --> 02:01:55,400
Speaker 2: of different things.

2741
02:01:55,520 --> 02:01:59,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, Jonathan Taylor under contract simply leave.

2742
02:02:00,320 --> 02:02:03,440
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, No no hoodie this year.

2743
02:02:03,600 --> 02:02:04,160
Speaker 4: No hoodie.

2744
02:02:04,200 --> 02:02:05,520
Speaker 2: There's no Jim Mersey bus.

2745
02:02:05,560 --> 02:02:05,920
Speaker 4: I'm looking.

2746
02:02:05,960 --> 02:02:07,879
Speaker 2: I'm looking out there. The bus is not out there.

2747
02:02:07,800 --> 02:02:09,760
Speaker 1: Seventy yards away from us right now.

2748
02:02:10,160 --> 02:02:12,240
Speaker 3: I will say, I always want to ask the players, like,

2749
02:02:12,320 --> 02:02:15,640
Speaker 3: you know, what constitutes how cool do you have to

2750
02:02:15,640 --> 02:02:16,080
Speaker 3: be to wear.

2751
02:02:16,040 --> 02:02:18,160
Speaker 2: The shades to the to the interview?

2752
02:02:18,200 --> 02:02:21,920
Speaker 3: You know, John Taylor had on the shade.

2753
02:02:22,000 --> 02:02:24,360
Speaker 2: The Forest Buckner did not. But the Forest Buckner's cool.

2754
02:02:24,360 --> 02:02:27,040
Speaker 2: Like I just I'm just curious, you know, Michael Pittman Jr.

2755
02:02:27,080 --> 02:02:27,320
Speaker 2: Did not.

2756
02:02:27,600 --> 02:02:29,880
Speaker 3: He did not, So I'm just curious about that, like

2757
02:02:29,960 --> 02:02:31,520
Speaker 3: you know. And then it's funny because they get into

2758
02:02:31,520 --> 02:02:34,000
Speaker 3: the tent and it's dark anyway. But I guess when.

2759
02:02:34,160 --> 02:02:36,200
Speaker 2: When you're looking good, Kevin, you got to look the parts.

2760
02:02:36,320 --> 02:02:38,240
Speaker 2: Sun never sets on the cool, right, isn't that the

2761
02:02:38,280 --> 02:02:39,280
Speaker 2: old saying that that's true?

2762
02:02:39,800 --> 02:02:41,640
Speaker 1: Uh So again we'll be live up here the next

2763
02:02:41,640 --> 02:02:43,800
Speaker 1: couple of days and at Chris pout to meet the

2764
02:02:43,840 --> 02:02:46,440
Speaker 1: media a little bit later at noon. Going back to

2765
02:02:46,480 --> 02:02:51,280
Speaker 1: the Wally Pitch Mitchell thing for just a second. Weirdly,

2766
02:02:53,040 --> 02:02:55,120
Speaker 1: there might be more open playing time for Wally though,

2767
02:02:55,720 --> 02:02:58,320
Speaker 1: and this is a position battle that I'm sure of.

2768
02:02:58,520 --> 02:02:59,520
Speaker 2: But the position.

2769
02:02:59,240 --> 02:03:02,720
Speaker 1: Battles we know obviously quarterback, we know about kicker, We've

2770
02:03:02,760 --> 02:03:07,400
Speaker 1: talked about center, Tander Bordolini and Danny Pinter on that list.

2771
02:03:07,760 --> 02:03:12,400
Speaker 1: Weirdly could be the third cornerback spot. And again we

2772
02:03:12,480 --> 02:03:15,160
Speaker 1: know Kenny Moore the second Inchravarious Ward are going to

2773
02:03:15,240 --> 02:03:17,760
Speaker 1: be your top two corners. But when you go to

2774
02:03:17,800 --> 02:03:21,200
Speaker 1: your nickel personnel grouping and you bring a third cornerback

2775
02:03:21,240 --> 02:03:23,840
Speaker 1: on the field, Kenny will slide into the slot where

2776
02:03:23,880 --> 02:03:25,920
Speaker 1: he's been such an effective player for you, and that

2777
02:03:26,000 --> 02:03:28,280
Speaker 1: brings a second outside corner onto the field, and that

2778
02:03:28,440 --> 02:03:31,040
Speaker 1: is a huge role in today's NFL. It's gonna be

2779
02:03:31,080 --> 02:03:32,840
Speaker 1: a big role in this defense where they seemingly have

2780
02:03:32,840 --> 02:03:38,160
Speaker 1: no linebackers. So when they do that is justin Wally

2781
02:03:38,280 --> 02:03:42,160
Speaker 1: competing with Jalen Jones for that third cornerback role. I

2782
02:03:42,200 --> 02:03:44,480
Speaker 1: think Jalen Jones has been a pretty good player honestly

2783
02:03:44,720 --> 02:03:45,880
Speaker 1: early in his career.

2784
02:03:45,880 --> 02:03:46,560
Speaker 2: SARS credit for that.

2785
02:03:46,760 --> 02:03:48,440
Speaker 1: So you know, that's where I think it just differs

2786
02:03:48,440 --> 02:03:50,320
Speaker 1: from me with Adie Mitchell. I can hear you out

2787
02:03:50,400 --> 02:03:53,320
Speaker 1: on the Ady Mitchell over Wally, but that's a little different.

2788
02:03:53,400 --> 02:03:55,280
Speaker 1: So thank you very much to Kenny Moore of the Second,

2789
02:03:55,440 --> 02:03:57,640
Speaker 1: James Boyd, Kevin Bowen, Mark Diykedon.

2790
02:03:57,720 --> 02:03:58,680
Speaker 2: We're signing off.

2791
02:03:59,000 --> 02:04:02,120
Speaker 1: We'll have you covered tomorrow live here in Westfield at

2792
02:04:02,120 --> 02:04:02,600
Speaker 1: Grand Park.