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Speaker 1: Let's see, eighty two million Americans said that they had

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Speaker 1: to cut back on at least one daily living expense,

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Speaker 1: and this is to cover their healthcare bills. And they're

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Speaker 1: cutting back on things like food, even cutting back on utilities,

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Speaker 1: driving less, and borrowing money.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, life has become affordable for the vast majority

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Speaker 2: of people in this country. And whether it's housing or healthcare,

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Speaker 2: or the oppressive taxes that we get at the federal, state,

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Speaker 2: and local level in this country, it just seems like

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Speaker 2: it seems like we're under attack from everywhere we turn.

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Speaker 2: Everywhere we turn, prices are going up for everything, Taxes

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Speaker 2: keep going up, and the only thing that's not going

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Speaker 2: up are Americans' wages.

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Speaker 1: Okay. According to this report, they say that health care

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Speaker 1: costs have prompted tens of millions of Americans to postpone

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Speaker 1: major life events in recent years. This includes delaying surgeries

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Speaker 1: or medical treatments. Fourteen percent have held off buying a

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Speaker 1: new home, and just under one tenth have put off retirement.

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Speaker 1: They can't afford it. They can't.

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Speaker 2: It's it's that circle.

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Speaker 1: It's like your job maybe giving you health issues because

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Speaker 1: you're either too old or too stressed. But then you

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Speaker 1: got to keep working to have the health insurance to

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Speaker 1: pay for the issues that the job is causing.

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Speaker 2: Well, and I think would frustrate so many people. If

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Speaker 2: you're truly poor, and I'm talking about truly poor in

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Speaker 2: this country, there are all sorts of programs for you. You

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Speaker 2: can get your housing subsidized, and your childcare, and your

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Speaker 2: health insurance, and your doctor bills and your electricity bill.

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Speaker 2: You can get in pretty much almost everything in your

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Speaker 2: life subsidized if you are truly poor in this country.

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Speaker 2: But if you work for a living, and let's say

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Speaker 2: you're a family of four and you've got a household

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Speaker 2: income of about fifty or sixty thousand dollars, you likely

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Speaker 2: don't qualify for hardly any subsidies for anything. Yet you've

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Speaker 2: still got the crushing cost of living that oppresses you.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's what frustrates so many people in

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Speaker 2: the middle is that, you know, what they think they're

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Speaker 2: doing the right thing. I'm going to work, I'm showing

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Speaker 2: up every day. I've got a job. Maybe my wife

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Speaker 2: has a job or a part time job, and we've

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Speaker 2: got two kids at home, and we're the ones working,

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Speaker 2: and the poor people are getting their life subsidized, and

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Speaker 2: I'm the one that's got the job and going to

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Speaker 2: work every day and I can't afford to live anymore.

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Speaker 2: That's the frustrating, probably the most frustrating aspect of this