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Speaker 1: Hammer and Nigel do you believe these characters are weirdos?

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Speaker 2: So it's been a day. We're dealing with a lot

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Speaker 2: of serious stuff here. We got chimpanzees running loose, we

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Speaker 2: got like beautiful nearly seventy degree weather here in late November.

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Speaker 2: But we've also got some breaking news. I'm Jason Hammer.

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Speaker 2: Guy Relford is in for Nigel today. John Herrick, the

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Speaker 2: news director here at ninety three WIBC, joins us in studio.

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Speaker 2: Literally right before we came on the air, John, we

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Speaker 2: received a statement from Senate pro Tem Rod Bray, and

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Speaker 2: long story short, he says the votes are not there

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Speaker 2: for a redistrict vote. Therefore, there will not be a

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Speaker 2: special session called in December.

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Speaker 3: Take me through it well, basically, Hammer, I don't know

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Speaker 3: if you remember this, but all throughout the week, and

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Speaker 3: really over the last couple weeks, there's been I've never

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Speaker 3: seen something so hot button topic from one side of

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Speaker 3: got an Indiana based organization with ties to Trump's presidential

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Speaker 3: campaign launching a six figure advertising effort telling everybody redistricting

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Speaker 3: is necessary. But then on the other side you've got

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Speaker 3: people like Senator gene Lysing, who have been involved in

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Speaker 4: For a long time.

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Speaker 3: She joined five other Senate Republicans publicly to say, no,

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Speaker 3: we do not need to reconfigure congressional maps. And I

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Speaker 3: think that all has led to what you saw today,

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Speaker 3: which is basically, we just do not have the votes.

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Speaker 3: Governor Braun has been saying, let's look at this, we

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Speaker 3: need to look at this seriously. There's obviously people who

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Speaker 3: it looks like they've won the day.

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Speaker 2: Here, I'm going to read the statement from Senate President

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Speaker 2: pro Tim rod Bray quote. Over the last several months,

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Speaker 2: Senate Republicans have given very serious and thoughtful considerations to

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Speaker 2: the concept of redrawing our state's congressional maps. Today, I'm

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Speaker 2: announcing there are not enough votes to move that idea forward,

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Speaker 2: keyword there is the Senate, because Governor Brawn, I guess

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's what he has been saying for a while.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't I don't necessarily blame him here. I don't

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Speaker 3: So when Senator jene Lysing came out this week and

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Speaker 3: the Indiana Capitol Chronicle talked about this, I mean, she

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Speaker 3: going to vote for maps I've never seen. It's discouraging

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Speaker 3: And the reason that's important is because she's been a

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Speaker 3: ninety six. A retired nurse, she works as a travel

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Speaker 2: Guy, I want to get your thoughts on this here

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Speaker 2: in just a moment, But first, where can we get

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Speaker 2: the latest on this, John, I know this kind of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll be up on our website soon at WIBC

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Speaker 3: dot com, along with the whole lot of other slew

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Speaker 2: Right, John Herrick, News Director WIBC, John, thank you, not

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Speaker 2: a problem.

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Speaker 5: Thanks, good, good.

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Speaker 6: Good to Paul Man there by the way there, John.

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Speaker 5: That's right, go tiger.

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Speaker 2: Look at this DePaul stuff in studio today. We got jackets,

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Speaker 2: we got alumni in here. We'll get to that here

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Speaker 2: just a moment. But your initial reaction to Rod Bray saying, yeah,

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Speaker 6: Reaction is it's really kind of interesting from a constitutional

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Speaker 6: he may, at any time, by proclamation call a special session.

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Speaker 6: So it's uniquely the authority and power of the governor

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Speaker 6: Rod bay Ray it's looking at him and essentially saying no.

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Speaker 2: So a couple of different things could take place here.

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Speaker 2: Number one, this is not good for Governor Braun. Now

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Speaker 2: This is not good if your Governor Mike Brown. Now,

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Speaker 2: from a pr perspective, here, what does this do for

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Speaker 2: Senate pro Tim Rod Bray. He's not up for election

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Speaker 2: for another three years, he's pretty locked in. But you know,

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Speaker 6: Well, it puts responsibility squarely in his lap because listen,

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Speaker 6: it makes Governor Braun look like an ineffective governor in

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Speaker 6: this special session, and the legislature is basically thumbing their

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Speaker 6: only reason we didn't do redistricting in Indiana is not

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Speaker 2: And other states have been able to pull this off.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but what's viewed as a very red Indiana,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly, And it does allow Governor Brown to do

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Speaker 6: It's not dissimilar to property taxes, where he said, listen,

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Speaker 6: it allows him to say, I called the special session,

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Speaker 2: But it looks like right now Rod Bray's got the

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Speaker 2: can't happen. Like, I don't know what you have to

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Speaker 2: Governor Braun and I'm hoping we can have this conversation

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Speaker 2: of why we got screwed on property tax. Yeah, Like

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Speaker 2: And I don't have to tell you guy, it was

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Speaker 2: Rob that was never really on board with constitutional carry

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Speaker 2: a shame if we took our money elsewhere. Maybe that happened,

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Speaker 2: maybe it didn't. But Rod Bray's been on the opposite

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and we fought that battle for a lot of

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Speaker 6: to be. On conservative issues. It seems like there's a

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Speaker 2: So this is the big story here in Indy. You

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Speaker 2: is a Friday news dump right there. We didn't even

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Speaker 2: get to the crazy chimp that was running wild at

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Speaker 6: Isn't that the number one news story in Indianapolis right now?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, we talked about Rod Bray, but

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Speaker 2: Potato potato class half full glass, half empty. Guy, I

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Speaker 2: see your big DePaul jacket that you brought in here,

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Speaker 2: John Herrick said, DePaul product as well. You guys got

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Speaker 2: a big game this weekend.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the Monon Bell, the oldest rivalry west of the

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Speaker 6: Ivy League is happening us between the Dpad Tigers and

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Speaker 6: the Wabash. I don't know, I forget whatever they're called. I

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Speaker 6: think they're the giants. I believe little Giants. Okay, I

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Speaker 6: actually knew that, but yeah, no, it's an old, old rivalry.

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Speaker 6: It goes back well over one hundred years. And that

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Speaker 6: it's a big game. I'm actually going at least part

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Speaker 6: That's cool in Indy.

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Speaker 2: I'm posting on our social media right now picture of

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Speaker 2: you back in your DePaul football days. It's wild seeing

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Speaker 2: you with the big thick head of hair.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, nobody would pick that out of a lineup, this

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Speaker 6: being Guy Relford. I'm guarantee you.

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Speaker 2: If you want to see Guy Relford back in his

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Speaker 2: DePaul football days, go to our Facebook and our Twitter

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Speaker 2: right now. Hammer and Nigel at Hammer in Nigel. Be careful, though,

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Speaker 2: if you look at Guy Relford's football picture long enough,

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Speaker 4: Rolling on a.

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Speaker 2: Friday'st the Hammer at Nigel Show. I'm Jason Hammer Guy

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Speaker 2: We're great. I got the Gun Guy here. Guy Relford

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 5: We'll give you me a barguer with us.

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Speaker 2: Tell us what our arguments and where can we find it?

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Speaker 1: Arguments is a brain child of mine, which I'm sure

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Speaker 1: And if you gentlemen are sholly enough, shall we do

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Speaker 6: Let's do it?

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Speaker 2: What have we got today?

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Speaker 1: The best Christmas song that always gets played but you

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Speaker 2: So this is a popular Christmas song that everybody loves,

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Speaker 6: Yes, see, this is awesome. That's why Arguments is so good.

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Speaker 6: It's not just Ginger or Marianne every week. Well, it

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Speaker 2: Dan get us go.

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Speaker 1: Well, if I have to hear the Drummer Boy one more.

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Speaker 2: Time, ladies and gentlemen, David Bowie and Bing Crosby are.

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Speaker 4: Here, find a skift sweep.

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Speaker 2: Bring so that's your song. You can't stand it?

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Speaker 1: That ruff up pump pub every time if it's like

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 6: And to get a grown man to sings perump bump

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Speaker 1: So like every year someone tries to redo it, I'm like,

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Speaker 10: Please, please don't become that copy Okay.

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Speaker 2: I will accept that challenge. Base Okay, because I I

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Speaker 2: I know how to mix. What if I told you

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Speaker 2: I've taken the Little Drummer Boy and I've mixed it

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Speaker 7: The next thing, you know, shoty gog loot.

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Speaker 2: That's still painful, all right, uh miss Ellison, Well, I.

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Speaker 11: Carol of the bells. Okay, let's hear a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Of it, Okay, So I love it, live think you live.

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Speaker 2: It gives you anxiety.

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Speaker 11: When it starts crescendoing and then it just goes faster

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Speaker 11: I swear, and it's just it's too much.

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Speaker 4: On the radio.

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Speaker 2: Okay. So do you like the remix of Burger King

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Speaker 2: and ding fries are done.

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Speaker 12: Done, Dan Frisay done, Dang Frisy done, dang fries done.

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Speaker 4: I gotta run, I gotta run, ai, guys?

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Speaker 2: That any better for you?

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Speaker 4: I work king anxiety still? Okay, face, where are we

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Speaker 1: You know what, I actually can agree with her. If

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Speaker 1: I'm in my car and I'm at a Travis Jam

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Speaker 2: Okay, fine, most people feel like that's like the crescendo.

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Speaker 2: Right, I love the Grinch sitting right across from me,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they're annoying little critters. That's all I can say.

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Speaker 2: come on man? Really, Like in my mind, Paul McCartney's

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Speaker 5: You know what.

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Speaker 1: I am right there with you every time I hear

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Speaker 1: I agree with you until someone brings it up, like

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Speaker 2: It absolutely does basse my man, if we want to

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Speaker 2: do so.

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Speaker 1: Go anywhere that you're gonna download your podcast here, your iTunes, Spotify,

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Speaker 1: all those places. You can download it there. Or if

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Speaker 1: you want to go on YouTube and watch it, you

438
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Speaker 1: can do that as well. It's arguments a podcast plus

439
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Speaker 1: a very fun Facebook page. We have a group page

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Speaker 1: where arguments are happening around the clock, and it'll let

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Speaker 1: you skip work for a little while and just hang

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Speaker 1: out with us. So arguments, it's a it's a way

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Speaker 1: of life.

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Speaker 5: Do it.

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Speaker 2: Check it out, Dan Boosh Levy my brother. We'll do

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Speaker 2: it again next Friday. Let it guys, Thank you much,

447
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Speaker 2: thank Dan. It' Stahammer and Nigel Show. Guy Reelford is

448
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 2: in for Nigel today and guy. There's a list online

449
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Speaker 2: of careers that are often unfairly villainized. These are perfectly

450
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Speaker 2: fine occupations. People make great livings doing these, but for

451
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Speaker 2: whatever reason, you're viewed as the bad guy if you

452
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Speaker 2: have one of these jobs, coming in at number one

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Speaker 2: defense attorney.

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Speaker 6: Hey, I resemble that remark.

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Speaker 2: You were on the cover of like the Indie Star

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Speaker 2: this past week because of the home invasion shooting. However

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Speaker 2: you want to refer to it as in Westfield. So

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Speaker 2: you were on the cover of the Indie Star. And

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Speaker 2: when that happens, you know, they put it on Facebook,

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Speaker 2: They put it on social media. People start commenting. Boy,

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Speaker 2: the comments, Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I little hate directed here at yours truly, but it's

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Speaker 6: kind of laughable. And I posted something obviously I'm not

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Speaker 6: going to comment on that case. I'm going to be

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Speaker 6: a professional about it, as is the Boon County Prosecutor,

466
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Speaker 6: Kent Eastwood. So I'm not commenting on that case. And

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Speaker 6: people can say whatever they want to say. That's what

468
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Speaker 6: social media is all about. But I just posted a

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Speaker 6: generic comment, unrelated to the case necessarily that just said

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Speaker 6: social media where people with five percent of the information

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Speaker 6: post opinions with one hundred percent certainty, right, and and

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Speaker 6: and and and and that's that's really what it's all about.

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Speaker 6: People who really know nothing, virtually nothing other than the

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Speaker 6: little sliver of what the media is telling them, uh,

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Speaker 6: just voicing opinions with complete confidence and and it's a

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Speaker 6: little bit laughable. And of course then you know, because

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Speaker 6: I represent a party involved in that situation, and people

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Speaker 6: want to come out and call me names and and

479
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Speaker 6: talk about why I'm even doing it other than because

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Speaker 6: I believe in the Constitution. I believe everybody deserves the

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Speaker 6: best possible legal representation they can get, and that's.

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Speaker 2: What anybody would want if they're hiring a defense attorney.

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Speaker 6: Exactly. Well, Puss, I've often said, you know, everybody hates

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Speaker 6: defense attorneys, except your defense attorney.

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Speaker 2: When you need one, you want one to be really

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Speaker 2: good at what they do. Now, I know you can't

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Speaker 2: go into detail on that Westfield thing because you are

488
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Speaker 2: vested in here, but when are we going to get

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Speaker 2: more information? Like are we going to get any sort

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Speaker 2: of charges from the prosecutor soon? Do you have any

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Speaker 2: insight on that?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 6: I actually heard from WWC on the news driving down

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Speaker 6: here that the Boon County prosecutor had said they were

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Speaker 6: going to give an update on a charging decision today,

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Speaker 6: but then due to some circumstances outside their control, they

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Speaker 6: delayed that till Monday. So I believe there's going to

498
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Speaker 6: be an announcement on Monday as to whether chargers are

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Speaker 6: going to be filed and if so, what charges.

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Speaker 2: Here are some other careers that were on that list.

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Speaker 2: Careers that are often villainized dentists or on the list.

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Speaker 2: Nobody ever has nice things to say about going to

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Speaker 2: the dentists.

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Speaker 6: See I disagree. I have a fabulous dentist. I have

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Speaker 6: a dentist right downtown here, and she's wonderful. She's and

506
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Speaker 6: she's got really small hands. That's what I love about her.

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Speaker 6: And no, I have nothing but good things to say

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Speaker 6: about Dennis. You know what, you may have had a

509
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Speaker 6: bad experience with the dentists, but that's probably you didn't

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Speaker 6: take care of your teeth for the last forty years.

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Speaker 2: Social workers because some people who don't know all the information,

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Speaker 2: they'll look at a social worker as taking a kid

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Speaker 2: away from a family, but perhaps it might be the

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Speaker 2: best thing for the kids. So social workers are sometimes

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Speaker 2: unfairly villainized.

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Speaker 6: Oh my goodness, go talk to someone who works for

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Speaker 6: the Department of Child Services in Indiana and what those

518
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Speaker 6: people deal with. And I think they're heroes. And look,

519
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Speaker 6: some are better than others. And there are cases where

520
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Speaker 6: clearly the ball gets dropped, But for the most part,

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Speaker 6: these are heroes that are out there putting their own

522
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Speaker 6: emotional and sometimes physical health at risk, trying to do

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Speaker 6: right in need by children in need in this state.

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Speaker 6: And that's just one example. So I couldn't disagree with

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Speaker 6: that more. Some of these people are absolute heroes, all right.

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Speaker 2: So coming up here in just a little bit, you

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Speaker 2: don't have the news at the top of the hour. Again,

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Speaker 2: the big story here in Indy. They will not be

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Speaker 2: a special session for Indiana Republicans. Rod Bray, the Senate

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Speaker 2: pro Tim has said the votes are not there. Therefore

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Speaker 2: he is not asking the Senate to come in for

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Speaker 2: a special hearing that's coming up. Matt bears next, Hammer

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Speaker 2: and Nigel.

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Speaker 4: Can you believe these characters are weirdos?

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Speaker 2: So Le's oh, it is a peer sample Friday. It's

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Speaker 2: a Friday with a lot of news going on, and

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Speaker 2: we're glad that you are trusting us to inform you,

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Speaker 2: entertain you and all things in between. We are the

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Speaker 2: Hammer and Nigel Show. It's a group effort in here.

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Speaker 2: I'm Jason Hammer, Guy Relford is in for Big Nige.

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Speaker 2: Producer Allison is here and the best traffic reporter in

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Speaker 2: all of Central Indie, the Traffic Beast, Matt beher my friend.

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Speaker 2: How are you?

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Speaker 14: Oh right, thanks for the introduction, man, beautiful day in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 14: But the bad things happening here.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I heard your traffic report at the top

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Speaker 2: of the hour. We've got a pretty serious situation going on.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, it's in Boone County and it's this closure of

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Speaker 14: southbound sixty five. The worst kind of crash, a fatal one.

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Speaker 14: And what had happened around noon this afternoon, a crash

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Speaker 14: with three vehicles involving a military humby. I took the

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Speaker 14: life of a National guardsman. Oh no, yeah, we hate

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Speaker 14: to see that. And three other people were also injured

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Speaker 14: in taking two area hospitals. And as with these things,

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Speaker 14: you're going to have an extended closure, and that's what

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Speaker 14: we're experiencing. An evening runch right now is this closure

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Speaker 14: southbound sixty five at the eight sixty five Dog Lake interchanges,

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Speaker 14: what it's known as locally, And this has caused a backup,

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Speaker 14: of course, and right now people are scrambling trying to

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Speaker 14: get around it. And I do it, and I've been

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Speaker 14: saying this a lot. You can check mattin Traffic for reroutes.

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Speaker 14: I have a couple of of them up there, and

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Speaker 14: one of them involved Lafayette Road and people that use

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Speaker 14: Lafayette Road. No, there will be variations of that reroute,

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Speaker 14: so check your map plan accordingly.

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Speaker 2: But this is gonna be a problem for a while.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, there's no timetable, no specifics on when it will reopen.

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Speaker 14: Police are careful about conducting their investigation and we appreciate that,

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Speaker 14: but as far as what actually happened, that's what the

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Speaker 14: investigation is for. When we learned that I'm sure Jake

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Speaker 14: will have it from the WIBC news room and I'll

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Speaker 14: have it as well.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll stay on top of that heartbreaking story

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Speaker 2: from the roads. Matt, how are you doing?

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Speaker 6: Man?

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Speaker 2: We always like to catch up with you. Matt's on

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Speaker 2: the YouTube camera right now, and so is Guy Relford.

578
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Speaker 2: I'm not an idiot. I know what you guys want.

579
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Speaker 2: I got the best looking guys in the studio with

580
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Speaker 2: the cameras on him here, and my fat, fugly self

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Speaker 2: is sitting over here to the side, spinning around in

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Speaker 2: Mike Pencis chair.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. I could be Math's pudgy grandfather. I'm not putting

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Speaker 6: myself in that category. You've lost so much weight. Man,

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Speaker 6: thank you.

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Speaker 14: You look fantastic, and Guy, you always look fantastic. Allanson's

587
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 14: a beautiful woman, you know. I all four of us

588
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Speaker 14: are just doing the best we can. That's all we

589
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Speaker 14: can do, is the best we can. Man this studio

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Speaker 14: right now.

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Speaker 2: If anybody's seeing the movie Grown Ups with Adam Sandler

592
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Speaker 2: and David Spade and Rob Schneider, there's a scene in

593
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Speaker 2: there where he's got two just smoke show hot daughters,

594
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Speaker 2: and then there's another one that looks just like Rob Schneider.

595
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Speaker 2: Guess which one I am in the studio right now.

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Speaker 4: No, man, No, that's not how it is. And you

597
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Speaker 4: know it's cool.

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Speaker 2: That's cool, all right. So construction on top of construction.

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Speaker 2: You sent me an email earlier today saying can we

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Speaker 2: talk about this? It's like, God, I prefer not to,

601
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Speaker 2: but I feel like we have to, Like how much

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Speaker 2: more can they do?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, be careful what you wish for in this town.

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Speaker 14: Lays are both southside construction zones today, the I sixty

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Speaker 14: five in the Medicine Avenue, and I'm not gonna lie

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Speaker 14: to you, guys, I hated them both. I didn't enjoy

607
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Speaker 14: my time at all in those construction zones. And they're tough.

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Speaker 14: One of them was sixty five, adding a lane from

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Speaker 14: the south with to four sixty five. They don't Madison anything.

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Speaker 14: They're taking away a lane, so it's gonna be different

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Speaker 14: getting from downtown to the south side. And what happened

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Speaker 14: is a couple of weeks ago a truck struck a

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Speaker 14: CSX train bridge, one of the train bridges, and they

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Speaker 14: had to fix it. And with that, you take this

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Speaker 14: corridor called southbound sixty five to seventy, and you take

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Speaker 14: away this Washington Street entrance ramp, which is very popular,

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Speaker 14: and then you reduce lanes on southbound sixty five seventy,

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Speaker 14: and you bottle up two interstates that come in to

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Speaker 14: this interchange, this north Split interchange, westbound seventy and southbound

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Speaker 14: sixty five, and then they bottleneck going south and it's

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Speaker 14: just bedloined.

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Speaker 2: Why does it take so long? Like I feel like

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Speaker 2: you know this better than anybody, because I see the

624
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Speaker 2: state of Florida, okay, and I know they've got their issues.

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Speaker 2: But when they have a hurricane, I see DeSantis fixing

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Speaker 2: a bridge over the ocean in a week. A bridge

627
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Speaker 2: over the ocean is fixed in a week. Here in Indy,

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Speaker 2: we joke about it, but we still see construction on

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Speaker 2: the monument that's been going on for like three years.

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Speaker 14: I want to suffer just one summer where we have

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Speaker 14: all our downtown monuments. That's all I want, because if

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Speaker 14: this isn't under construction, it's going to be the War Memorial.

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Speaker 14: If it's not the War Memorial, it'll be a military park.

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Speaker 14: We have the beautiful things downtown, and I want them

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Speaker 14: to work. To answer your question, I think a lot

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Speaker 14: of times.

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Speaker 4: And this is government for you.

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Speaker 14: This is why more government is bad is because the

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Speaker 14: city and the state I don't think coordinate these projects,

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Speaker 14: which is why we have this city project was does

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Speaker 14: include US thirty one East Street and Madison Avenue and

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Speaker 14: that's tore up. And then you have this state project

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Speaker 14: on I sixty five, and damn it. If they're going

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Speaker 14: to get their work done and they have the money,

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Speaker 14: they're going to go get their work done, regardless of

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Speaker 14: the congestion and the problems it creates for us as commuters.

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Speaker 14: And the second thing is it's Indiana and all my

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Speaker 14: life we've had bad roads and Indian since I've lived

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Speaker 14: here for fifteen years in downtown, the roads have always sucked.

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Speaker 2: But why is that? Because we're taxed on everything from

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Speaker 2: we were told lottery money, gambling money, gas tax, gas tax.

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Speaker 2: All was supposed to be fixing the roads throughout the

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Speaker 2: state of Indiana, not just Indy, but the state of Indiana.

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Speaker 2: And I know it's different departments, different funding, but it

655
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Speaker 2: doesn't matter where you go. It stinks.

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Speaker 14: Well you've been up right on reds, no turn right

657
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Speaker 14: on reds. We have those everywhere. I was taking the

658
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Speaker 14: South for exit rampant. I don't want I'm trying to

659
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Speaker 14: call the question.

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Speaker 6: I have Matt is on the northeast side that all

661
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Speaker 6: those various intersections around I sixty nine and four sixty five.

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Speaker 6: They've been working on this for what three years?

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Speaker 4: It's been a couple of years.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and is there any do you know from from

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Speaker 6: dot do you know is there any estimate of when

666
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 6: that might be done? I can't even figure out what

667
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Speaker 6: it's going to look like. I honest I go through

668
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Speaker 6: there all the time, and I honestly cannot even decide

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Speaker 6: what the final plan is going to be. We gotta

670
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Speaker 6: be years out still on that, aren't we?

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Speaker 14: From what I understated, you're talking about the clear path

672
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 14: construction project on the northeast side, this makeover, this redesign

673
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Speaker 14: of I sixty nine to four to sixty five, Allevia congestion,

674
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Speaker 14: make it safe for.

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Speaker 4: YadA, YadA, YadA. It's supposed to be done at the

676
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Speaker 4: end of the year. No way one is this year. Yeah.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, we got at the end of the year and

678
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 14: they've had rams closed up there forever. Like Allison, Oh,

679
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 14: it's crazy and he's fifty six street. It's such a

680
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 14: pain in the ass, and I get it. People are frustrated.

681
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 14: Then you add the speed cameras to that area, so

682
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Speaker 14: there's one more thing you have to concern with yourself.

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Speaker 6: I've got two warning letters from those speed cameras. Those

684
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Speaker 6: things are live and operable.

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Speaker 2: Oh you got a warning.

686
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Speaker 4: Oh you got a warning.

687
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 2: That's great. I got an actual ticket.

688
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Speaker 6: You really from a speed camera.

689
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Speaker 2: Not a speed camera and actual officer.

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Speaker 6: Well that's different. I'm talking about the camera.

691
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Speaker 2: I'm just saying I'm not trying to shed tears over

692
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Speaker 2: your warnings. Some of us are get actual tickets over here.

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Speaker 13: Got you know.

694
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Speaker 6: And I look at this and he's actually got a

695
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 6: picture of my car and my license plate. And I'm

696
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 6: trying decided it's this big ass pictures of my car

697
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 6: with a license plate that says gun lawyer. And I'm trying.

698
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 6: I'm trying to decide how I can say, oh, no,

699
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 6: that's not that wasn't me. Well, I have no idea

700
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Speaker 6: who that Cadillac was, said gun lawyer on the license plate.

701
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,399
Speaker 4: There's another gun guy in town, and yeah, my car,

702
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Speaker 4: I don't know who that was.

703
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 2: Matt Mayor the traffic beast in studio, What is the

704
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Speaker 2: clip we're going to hear from Supporting Sobriety today.

705
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Speaker 4: I can't believe it. It's the holidays already.

706
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Speaker 14: Holidays are a tough time for recovering alcoholics and addicts.

707
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 14: I'm a recovering alcoholic and my partner, Ryan Hendrick, is

708
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 14: a recovering add Acton you're a coworker.

709
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:35,879
Speaker 2: You guys are dating.

710
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Speaker 14: My partner work, my partner in life, right Hendrick, who

711
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 14: does the morning news here at WIBC. We formed this

712
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 14: podcast called Supporting Sobriety for the caregivers and the people

713
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 14: we tormented.

714
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 2: Ryan's life was like, what's going on in that news room.

715
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Speaker 14: But holidays are tough whether you're in use, or you're

716
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 14: struggling to become clean of the drug, or whether you're

717
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 14: in recovery, because there's lots of emotions that come up

718
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 14: in the holidays.

719
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Speaker 6: But here's the thing.

720
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Speaker 14: The beautiful thing is we don't have to drink and

721
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 14: we don't have to use.

722
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 4: What are my moves used to be?

723
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 14: I get around somebody who I know was empathetic to

724
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 14: whatever I was doing.

725
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 4: Now, granted I was a drunk and I was.

726
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 14: Drunk all the time, day, night, overnight, and whatever you

727
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 14: want to say, and I'd be like, yeah, something is tight,

728
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 14: and ah, this isn't working, or I'm worried about this,

729
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 14: and I'll be damned if some money didn't show up

730
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 14: at some point, you know.

731
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Speaker 6: And that was my move, you know.

732
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Speaker 4: And I feel really greasy even talking about it. You know,

733
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:36,720
Speaker 4: it's not my favorite thing.

734
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Speaker 6: To talk about it, but I do all the time.

735
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Speaker 14: Because it was my nature as an alcoholic. Where was

736
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 14: my money going to, Well, it was going to the

737
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 14: Kettle I society. It was going to the patron society,

738
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 14: you know, I mean the dirty well tequila society. You know,

739
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 14: that's where all my money was going to. So I

740
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 14: never had any money. Money can make people relapse, It

741
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 14: really can't. Also, it's for people not only do we

742
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 14: have the contemporary what's in front.

743
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 4: Of us, but we just have decades of wreckage behind us.

744
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 14: You know that. That hit that too. So you go

745
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 14: into recovery understanding that money could be a thing, but

746
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 14: money ain't gonna make me relapse. And that's the truth.

747
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 14: That's the honest to god truth. Stay close to your

748
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 14: people this holiday season, That's what I'm saying, Matt.

749
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Speaker 2: Matt, we got about thirty seconds left here, so we

750
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Speaker 2: got to hit a break. But I always think it's

751
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 2: incredible how open you are about this kind of stuff.

752
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 2: I know it's not easy. People think this is easy

753
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 2: for you. I don't think it's easy. But you're brave enough.

754
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 2: You have a big set of you know what's to

755
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,720
Speaker 2: put yourself out there, and I think so many people

756
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 2: appreciate that.

757
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 14: Well, thank you for the kind words out. The bottom

758
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 14: line is the only way we stay sober is to

759
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,280
Speaker 14: give it away. That's the only way we can do it.

760
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Speaker 2: One more time. Where can we find the podcast?

761
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 14: It's supporting Sobriety at any major podcast provider.

762
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 4: Please check us out.

763
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 14: You can also join our online community at Sobriety Underscore Pod.

764
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Speaker 14: We'd love to have you and thank you for the aartime.

765
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Speaker 14: Tevis and Allison.

766
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Speaker 2: You got it, Matt. And this is the point in

767
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Speaker 2: the week where we re producer Allison puts together a

768
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Speaker 2: completely out of context week in review from the Hammer

769
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Speaker 2: and Nigel Show.

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Speaker 10: There is help out there for these veterans that have

771
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Speaker 10: suffered Parisley.

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Speaker 5: Uh uh, just just.

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Speaker 10: Suffered awfully from can't get fooled again? Yeah, it won't

774
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Speaker 10: be fooled again, Hairless, Maybe I shouldn't.

775
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Speaker 1: Have added to l y.

776
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Speaker 2: You can just say that it suffered because I look

777
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 2: great naked. There's the horse fault kill James.

778
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Speaker 1: I'd like a good bottle of mouthwash.

779
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,720
Speaker 2: I don't think we're fat, but I think we're larger.

780
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Speaker 2: Does that make sense?

781
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 6: True?

782
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 2: Somebody's gonna get hurt if people keep throwing these marital

783
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 2: aids eat Norma Stens fifty dollars, which, by the way,

784
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Speaker 2: I believe this Allison's burn.

785
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 10: We had a physical history with with with mail hands

786
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 10: being rubbed about in front of my family searching me down.

787
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Speaker 2: There. It is the out of context week in review?

788
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 2: Is this anything?

789
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 6: Is next.

790
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 5: Present?

791
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 11: It depends upon what the meaning of the word is.

792
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 2: Is this anything? Is this anything? Is brought to you

793
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 2: by Indiana Unclaimed, a program presented by the Attorney General's

794
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 2: Office Here in Indiana, the Attorney General's Office reuniting Hoosiers

795
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:51,240
Speaker 2: with over one million bucks and unclaimed property every single week,

796
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 2: fast easy, free to search. Indiana Unclaimed dot gov had

797
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 2: somebody send us an email Hammer and Nigel at WIBC

798
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 2: dot com telling us thank you for talking about this.

799
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 2: They searched and they found like one thousand dollars.

800
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Speaker 6: I got twenty five hundred dollars back. That's awesome and

801
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 6: I'm a big fan. In fact, I tested the Attorney

802
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 6: General and said, thank you for having this purpose and

803
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 6: that's just fabulous.

804
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 2: Seriously, holidays are coming up. Need a little extra cash.

805
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 2: Check it out Indiana Unclaimed dot gov. Maybe some of

806
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 2: your money is out there. All right, guy, I'm gonna

807
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 2: run some stories by you. You tell me if there

808
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 2: are anything or not. Is this anything? This AI startup

809
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 2: company in Los Angeles just released an app that they

810
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 2: claim lets you communicate with your deceased loved ones. They

811
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 2: claim that three minutes of video that you upload is

812
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 2: enough for this company to build a realistic avatar that

813
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 2: you can communicate with forever. Here is the commercial for

814
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 2: the company called two.

815
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Speaker 12: Way Bigger See Oh my wonderful, kicking like crazy, he's.

816
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Speaker 2: Listening, Put your hand on your tummy and hum dam.

817
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 13: You're still say, hey, Charlie, how was schooled today?

818
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 11: It was really fun?

819
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 4: But who's gonna be a great grandmother?

820
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 2: Oh Charlie, congratulations.

821
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 4: She says that he's been kicking a lot though.

822
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 14: Tell her to put her hand on her tommy and

823
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:26,280
Speaker 14: hummed him.

824
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 4: You loved that you would have loved this moment.

825
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 14: You can call any time.

826
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Speaker 2: Is that anything?

827
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 6: No, it's a complete scam, and it makes me mad.

828
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 6: I mean, this is an electronic version of the gypsy

829
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 6: at the carnival who will bring you in and tell

830
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 6: you that they're communicating with your loved one, you know,

831
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 6: in the afterworld. It's a complete scam. They're they're plying

832
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 6: on people's emotions and trying to make a buck. And

833
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 6: this is literally a modern electronic version of the old Age,

834
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 6: old centuries old scam of the fortune teller trying to

835
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,760
Speaker 6: builk people out of money because they missed their loved

836
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 6: ones who have passed on. And not only is it

837
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 6: not anything, it actually makes me angry because it's a

838
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 6: it's a glorified scam.

839
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Speaker 2: I wanted the tests something similar out for myself, right,

840
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 2: So I reached out to OJ Simpson and I asked

841
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:23,439
Speaker 2: Oj two very simple questions. Number one, are you in hell?

842
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 2: And number two, describe having relations with Satan. Of course,

843
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 2: it was horrible, It was absolutely horrible. Now I believe that,

844
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 2: I believe that I believe OJ is telling me the truth. Yes,

845
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 2: he's in hell, and it's horrible to make love to Satan.

846
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 2: I believe all that.

847
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,280
Speaker 6: Let me put it this way, I would trust Jason

848
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 6: Hammer with the AI at his computer before I would

849
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 6: trust this idiotic company who's bilking people and relatives out

850
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 6: of their hard earned money.

851
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 2: Is this anything? A new study found that there's a

852
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 2: hack for winning the game rock paper scissors. So, according

853
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 2: to the data, if you tie the first round, let's

854
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 2: say you both play rock or you both play paper,

855
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 2: try to forget what happened and just be random with

856
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 2: your next choice. You're more likely to lose if you

857
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:16,240
Speaker 2: base your second play on what happened in the first round.

858
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 2: We've got scientific research behind this guy. Is this anything? No?

859
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 6: Because what if both people have read that advice exactly

860
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 6: the same?

861
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:25,280
Speaker 13: True?

862
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 4: True?

863
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 5: No?

864
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 6: Absolutely, But I have a more relevant question for you.

865
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Speaker 6: What's the most important rock paper scissors game you've ever played?

866
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 6: What was the biggest thing ever at stake when you

867
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 6: did rock paper scissors?

868
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Speaker 5: I did.

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Speaker 6: I will answer the question first, I want to hear

870
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Speaker 6: your answer. I did that for a three hundred and

871
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Speaker 6: seventy two dollars bar tab one time. Oh wow, we

872
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Speaker 6: mean another guy, and I said, tell you what, I'll

873
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Speaker 6: pick up the whole thing, or you pick up the

874
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 6: whole thing. We'll do rock paper scissors. And by the way,

875
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Speaker 6: I lost, I have to admit, oh no, but did

876
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Speaker 6: you ever put anything significant on rock paper scissors?

877
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 2: I mean not like that like in college, be like,

878
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 2: all right, who's gonna make the beer run?

879
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Speaker 6: Here? Yes, So we have a room.

880
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 2: Full of dudes, and the would almost be a tournament.

881
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 2: It'd be like a seated bracket of who has to

882
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 2: make the beer run and who's the designated beer bitch.

883
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 2: So that's what we would do.

884
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Speaker 6: So, yeah, this was a celebratory party over a trial

885
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Speaker 6: that we'd won. And we had a big trial team

886
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 6: there and a bunch of people and we were celebrating

887
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Speaker 6: and I lost Rock paper scissors and had to pick

888
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Speaker 6: that puppy up.

889
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 2: All right, so you and I are going to play

890
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 2: one round. Okay, okay, so I'm gonna go Rock paper scissors.

891
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 2: Go when I say go, you play? Are you ready?

892
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 2: Rock paper scissors?

893
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 13: Go?

894
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 2: All right, ty overtime, Rock paper scissors, Go scissors, baby scissors.

895
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 2: Don't get some guy, Raylford.

896
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Speaker 1: Let's go.

897
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Speaker 2: It's the Hammer and Nigel Show, Hammer and Nigel Show.

898
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 2: I'm Jason Hammer guy Ralford filling in for Big Knightge Today,

899
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Speaker 2: let's go to the hotline bring on Rick Snyder, President,

900
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 2: Fraternal Order of Police Lodge eighty six. We always like

901
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 2: to touch base with Rick to get his thoughts on

902
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Speaker 2: things happening in the world of law and policing.

903
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Speaker 5: Rick.

904
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Speaker 2: Sometimes these conversations are easier than others. Today is one

905
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 2: of those tough ones. This past week, you had to

906
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Speaker 2: respond to a fallen officer up in Delaware County, Corporal

907
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 2: Blake Reynolds losing his life in a horrible accident out

908
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 2: on the streets. And you've been very active in working

909
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 2: with the family, and the FOP has been very active.

910
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 2: Take me through one, how the family is doing and

911
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 2: number two, what have you guys been doing to help?

912
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Speaker 15: Yeah, guys, Well, obviously it's a devastating impact and just

913
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 15: a terrible situation that the family, both blood family but

914
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 15: also blue and brown families are going through up in

915
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Speaker 15: Delaware County. All accounts from everyone we've talked to, including

916
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 15: the sheriff up there, Sheriffs Skinner, have all told us

917
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Speaker 15: that Blake was a rising star and the police department

918
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Speaker 15: had a very bright future ahead of him and was

919
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 15: out serving his community and standing in the line and

920
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 15: simply trying to help someone and lost his life in

921
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Speaker 15: this tragic accident, and now everyone else has left grieving,

922
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Speaker 15: but also reflecting and remembering not just only Blake, but

923
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Speaker 15: also what all of our officers do, what all of

924
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Speaker 15: our officers are willing to do, and what they put

925
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Speaker 15: the risk every day when they put on that uniform

926
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Speaker 15: and go out and serve their communities.

927
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Speaker 5: I think one of the biggest things for folks.

928
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Speaker 15: To remember is that on average, we have an officer

929
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Speaker 15: who dies in the line of duty once every fifty

930
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Speaker 15: two hours in our nation, and that number has held

931
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Speaker 15: true for the past several years, and it's something that

932
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Speaker 15: our officers know all too well. And I think what

933
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Speaker 15: folks have to remember is that every officer, when they

934
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Speaker 15: raise their right hand and take their vigilant vow, they

935
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Speaker 15: lay down their life at that point in time. And

936
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Speaker 15: they're willing to say that the blank check that they

937
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Speaker 15: write can be cashed in by the communities they serve

938
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Speaker 15: on any given day. And that's why they humbly say

939
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Speaker 15: in their oaths that they take.

940
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Speaker 5: So help me, god.

941
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Speaker 2: Rick, what are some of your responsibilities as the president

942
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Speaker 2: of the Fraternal Order of Police Lodge eighty six. When

943
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Speaker 2: a tragedy like this.

944
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Speaker 15: Happens, well with it being in our state, one of

945
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Speaker 15: the things that we have been working on for the

946
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 15: past couple of years. We've had a great team in

947
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 15: place that's been doing a tremendous amount of work, and

948
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 15: really this last year have really ramped that up to

949
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 15: the point that we now have a dedicated response trailer

950
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 15: that we call our ARC ARK stands for Active Response Kit.

951
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,919
Speaker 15: This is over a thirty five foot long trailer that's

952
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 15: really kind of a Swiss Army knife for.

953
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Speaker 5: Us to be able to use.

954
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Speaker 15: For all kinds of events and reasons and be able

955
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Speaker 15: to provide all kinds of resources, including being able to

956
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 15: cook food for folks out of it, transport tools to

957
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Speaker 15: help rebuild lives, but also be a place to gather,

958
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 15: provide caplaincy, and then also really just lodge people whenever

959
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 15: we respond to incidents not only throughout the state of Indiana,

960
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 15: but across the country now and so our goal is

961
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Speaker 15: to be able to be a resource.

962
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 5: Our goal is to be.

963
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 15: Able to maintain good works and meet urgent needs here

964
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 15: near and far. And this was the very first deployment

965
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Speaker 15: that we had of that trailer. It couldn't be done

966
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Speaker 15: without great community partners, Lucas Oil. You guys know the

967
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Speaker 15: Lucas family and all that they have done for our

968
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Speaker 15: community and our capital city. But they also provided this

969
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Speaker 15: trailer for us to be able to equip for these needs.

970
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 15: And then delln Automotive Group if you're looking for a car,

971
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Speaker 15: dell In Automotives, they stepped up and provided a Dodge

972
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Speaker 15: thirty five hundred truck to be able to pull this trailer.

973
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 15: And we were able to within hours be in Delaware

974
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Speaker 15: County and be serving hot food to Deputy Reynolds fellow officers.

975
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Speaker 15: And it really just provided a place for them to gather,

976
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 15: to grieve, to laugh, to lean on one another, have

977
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,399
Speaker 15: some privacy, but be able to be together. And we

978
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Speaker 15: were able to feed them physically but also spiritually as well.

979
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Speaker 6: And Rick, while we're all grieving and mourning the loss

980
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 6: of this officer, how are we doing? I mean here

981
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 6: we are, we're well into November. How did twenty twenty four,

982
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 6: twenty twenty five, excuse me, compare in terms of injuries

983
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 6: and fatalities with our Indiana police officers. I know we've

984
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 6: talked many times. And you've talked here on the Hammer

985
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 6: and Nigel Show many times about the dramatic increases in

986
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 6: ambushes of police officers, and you know, senseless literal murders

987
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:11,280
Speaker 6: of police officers and the loss of officers while they're

988
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 6: doing things like serving warrants and doing all the other

989
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 6: things that put themselves in where they put themselves in

990
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 6: harms way for their community. How is twenty twenty five

991
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 6: shaping up here as we're in the end of the

992
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 6: in stages of the year, as far as our officer

993
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 6: safety is concerned, Well.

994
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 15: Our officers continue to stand the line and they're up

995
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 15: against pretty insurmountable odds. At the end of October of

996
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 15: this year, you know, W Reynolds was killed in a

997
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 15: vehicular crash. But at the end of October of this year, nationwide,

998
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 15: we have already had two hundred and eighty five officers shot.

999
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 5: In the line of duty.

1000
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 15: That's in like three hundred and five days. So we're

1001
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 15: still averaging an officer shot in the line of the

1002
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 15: year that's just shot, not stabbed, ran over by cars,

1003
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Speaker 15: beat to death, whatever the case may be. Officers shot

1004
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 15: on average anywhere from every twenty two to twenty six

1005
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:09,240
Speaker 15: hours in our nation, the ambush style attacks that we've had,

1006
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 15: We've had seventy five officers who have been shot in

1007
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 15: fifty eight separate ambush style attacks. Now, it's horrific. Of

1008
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 15: those numbers are that slightly down from last year, it's

1009
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 15: down about five percent, but the point is is that

1010
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 15: last year was one of five consecutive record levels of

1011
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 15: violence towards our officers. So we're still in those record levels.

1012
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 15: And it's just like the local Indianapolis homicide rates. When

1013
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 15: you're talking about numbers being slightly down, we're still at

1014
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:45,439
Speaker 15: record levels. And as you guys have clearly stated, you're

1015
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 15: not supposed to set a record every year. But you know,

1016
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 15: people say, well, when your officers look at that and they.

1017
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,879
Speaker 5: Know that people who do what they do, the odds of.

1018
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 15: Them being shot are once every twenty two to twenty

1019
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 15: six hours, hours dying in the line of duty once

1020
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:06,720
Speaker 15: every fifty two hours, plus every other kind of assault

1021
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 15: and attack they face, let alone attacks on their families,

1022
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 15: their homes and everything else. What do officers do when

1023
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 15: they look at those odds? They suit up, and they

1024
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:17,879
Speaker 15: show up and they go back and stand the line

1025
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 15: the next day. That's why I'm always so adamant about

1026
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 15: standing up for our officers, because they are remarkable women

1027
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 15: and men that walk amongst us, and sometimes in tragedies,

1028
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 15: it reminds us what it is they put the risk

1029
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 15: and what they're willing to do, and it really just

1030
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 15: leaves our communities standing in all saying where do we

1031
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 15: find these people? Thank God he has called them to

1032
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 15: come and stand that line.

1033
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 2: Rick Snyder is our guest president Fraternal Order Police Lodge

1034
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 2: eighty six. He's also the National chaplain for the Fraternal

1035
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 2: Order Police. Rick, we got a couple of minutes left here.

1036
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 2: I do want to get your thoughts on Indianapolis, the

1037
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 2: capital city. I sent you a text last weekend. There

1038
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 2: was actually about one week ago today. I went downtown

1039
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 2: for comedy show on Friday night with my wife. Comedy

1040
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 2: show started about nine to fifteen, so we're out pretty late,

1041
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 2: you know. We're downtown Helium Comedy Club. Show ends about

1042
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 2: eleven fifteen. My wife and I walking back to our

1043
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 2: car and I noticed downtown was like a ghost town.

1044
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 2: And there happened to be another shooting downtown a couple

1045
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 2: hours later. Rick, But it wasn't like there were a

1046
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,280
Speaker 2: ton of people downtown. My wife and I were walking

1047
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 2: to our car on a unseasonably warm night. It was

1048
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 2: like sixty degrees at eleven fifteen in downtown Indy and

1049
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 2: outside of the New Country Bar from Clayton Anderson and

1050
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,879
Speaker 2: the comedy club itself, nobody had a line. There wasn't

1051
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 2: a lot of activity. I'm just curious as to your

1052
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 2: thoughts on the state of downtown right now. Tons of police,

1053
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 2: police officers were doing everything right, they were stationed everywhere,

1054
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 2: but you know, there wasn't hardly anybody well yet there

1055
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 2: was still another shooting.

1056
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:08,320
Speaker 15: Well, you know, folks in the downtown Indie economic community,

1057
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 15: business community, they don't want to admit it publicly, but

1058
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 15: they are frightened. They're scared to death of what's going

1059
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 15: on with the economic impact of the violence that continues

1060
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 15: to occur in downtown Indianapolis. You know, you know, right

1061
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 15: now you'll hear people say, well, it's the weather. The

1062
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 15: weather's gotten colder, so less people are out. But strikingly,

1063
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 15: you have just as many shootings that are occurring, so

1064
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 15: the criminals aren't going away. And what we're finding is

1065
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 15: that those with flexible spending, they're taking their dollars and

1066
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:43,839
Speaker 15: they're going elsewhere, and we're seeing surrounding communities that are

1067
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 15: actually profiting and thriving based on what's being hollowed out

1068
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 15: in downtown Indianapolis. Take a good look at Carmel and

1069
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 15: Fishers and look at their new convention centers up there

1070
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 15: and their new entertainment area in What you see is

1071
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:07,320
Speaker 15: that those medium sized conventions, concerts, other forms of entertainment,

1072
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 15: even sporting events are moving into that area. And so

1073
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 15: it begs the question why is that. Well, take a

1074
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 15: good look around, as we've said, five back to back

1075
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 15: years of record levels of violence. It sounds like the

1076
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 15: shootout at the Ok Corral in downtown Indianapolis. Just about

1077
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 15: every weekend night you see images like we saw this

1078
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 15: past year with an actual shootout in daylight hours on

1079
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 15: the Circle of Indianapolis.

1080
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 5: And then you go and you find that.

1081
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 15: Your political leaders, you're elected leaders in charge, are absolutely

1082
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 15: tone deaf when they come back out and try to

1083
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:47,399
Speaker 15: tell everybody, don't believe you're lying eyes. This is still

1084
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 15: the safest neighborhood in the city of Indianapolis.

1085
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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 15: Well, if that's true, that doesn't say much for the

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Speaker 15: rest of the neighborhoods.

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Speaker 5: In the city of Indianapolis.

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Speaker 15: But it also really highlights this fact that until we

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Speaker 15: get a handle on this issue, and until our courts

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Speaker 15: and our prosecutors start taking this seriously, nothing's going to

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00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 15: change in our capital city. And that's why the State

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Speaker 15: of Indiana's been forced to engage on the issue. And

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Speaker 15: I suspect we'll see some pretty assertive actions taking place

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Speaker 15: at the Indiana Legislature of this upcoming session.

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Speaker 2: Rick, we could do a whole show on that topic,

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Speaker 2: but we're up against it. My friend, I know you're busy.

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Speaker 2: Keep doing God's work and tell your officers be safe.

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Speaker 2: And they got support on this program.

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Speaker 5: Sure thing. Thank you, guys, God blessed.

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Speaker 6: Thanks my brother.

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Speaker 2: It's the Hammer and Nigel Show.

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Speaker 1: Hammer and Nigel.

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Speaker 9: You believe these characters are weirdos.

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00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 2: Deer sample Friday. That's how we kick off the weekend

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Speaker 2: officially here in Indianapolis. That's coming up in just a

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Speaker 2: little bit. I'm Jason Hammer. Guy Raelford is filling in

1108
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Speaker 2: for Big Nige, and the big story coming out of

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00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 2: the State Capitol Building, Guy is that the Senate pro

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Speaker 2: Tem Rod Bray has released the statement saying that the

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Speaker 2: Senate will not be part of any special session coming

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Speaker 2: up in December because they don't have the votes for redistricting.

1113
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Speaker 2: For redistricting, this is in regards to changing the congressional map.

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Speaker 2: The Governor Mike Braun came on this program and said

1115
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 2: he was in on it. He felt confident it could happen.

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00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 2: By the time everybody got together, a lot of conversations

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00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 2: were still taking place. But today Rod Bray comes out

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00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 2: and says, Ah, that ain't happening at least with the Senate.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it was just fascinating to me. And listen, you

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Speaker 6: get Governor Braun in here twice a month, and so

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Speaker 6: I think a fascinating discussion that you're going to have

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00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 6: I'm sure with Governor Braun is going to be you know,

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Speaker 6: what does this say about the state of your leadership

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Speaker 6: here in Indiana when you call a special session specifically

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Speaker 6: for redistricting and the President pro Tem of the Senate,

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00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 6: Rod Bray, basically just goes no. I mean, where does

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Speaker 6: that leave Governor Brawn in terms of his status as

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Speaker 6: the leader of the Republican Party here in Indiana? And

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Speaker 6: I think it's fascinating that Rod Bray is willing to

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Speaker 6: stand up and say he doesn't care what the governor

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Speaker 6: wants him to do. He's not going to have a

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Speaker 6: special session. He's not even going to have a vote

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Speaker 6: because the votes aren't there. That's just fascinating from a

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Speaker 6: purely political standpoint. That's fascinating to me.

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Speaker 2: And because most of the people who are in the

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00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 2: Senate or under Rod Bray, not all of them, but

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00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 2: a lot of them are just such spineless butt sniffers.

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00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 2: They're not going to say anything because if you think

1139
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 2: about it, now, if you're somebody that believes in Republican

1140
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 2: or conservative values, your leader in the Senate that was

1141
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 2: chosen by his peers has been against constitutional carry up

1142
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 2: until the very end when he flip flopped because he

1143
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 2: was afraid of losing funding from groups like the NRA

1144
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 2: and others. Was totally against you getting good, legitimate property

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Speaker 2: tax relief. One of the biggest problems. Like this is

1146
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Speaker 2: what I fight Rob Kendall about all the time. Like

1147
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 2: Rob was the face of property tax relief here in Indy.

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Speaker 2: This was his passionate cause. He held an amazing rally

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Speaker 2: where people showed up to keep in mind, Republicans don't

1150
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Speaker 2: do that right, we go to work, we take care

1151
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 2: of our kids. We're not to drop everything and protest

1152
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 2: people packed the state House and that was because of Rob.

1153
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 2: But ultimately it wasn't Micah, it wasn't Brawn that screwed everybody.

1154
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Speaker 2: It was Rod Bray. He never wanted it to begin with,

1155
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Speaker 2: and his little team of minions and butts sniffers underneath

1156
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 2: of him were just like, okay, boss, And that's how

1157
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 2: we got screwed on everything. And now if you're somebody

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Speaker 2: that thought, you know what, Illinois's been doing this for

1159
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 2: a long time, California's been doing this for a long time,

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Speaker 2: maybe we should do it too. Here comes Rod Bray

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01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 2: once again.

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Speaker 6: Well, in terms of promoting conservative values and getting conservative

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Speaker 6: legislation passed in Indiana, the Indiana Senate has been the

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Speaker 6: problem for a generation. I mean, I've been fighting for

1165
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 6: Second Amendment issues, as you well know, over in the

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Speaker 6: state House for a long damn time. I've I spend

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01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 6: hundreds of hours over there every session. And it's never

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Speaker 6: the House. When you go in there with a really

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01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 6: good pro two AA bill, a good solid conservative bill,

1170
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Speaker 6: you talk to the representatives and the committee chair that

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01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 6: you need to you're going to get it out of

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Speaker 6: the House, because I mean, they are for the most part,

1173
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 6: true conservatives in the House. The challenge has always been

1174
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 6: when it goes over to the Senate and you've got

1175
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Speaker 6: some people over there that run as Republicans every year,

1176
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Speaker 6: so they're elected, but you really have to question their politics.

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Speaker 6: I mean, Liz Brown from Fort Wayne, she's pro life.

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Speaker 6: Other than that, she's just a straight Democrat. I mean,

1179
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Speaker 6: she's a liberal other than the fact that she's pro life.

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Speaker 6: And then you have leadership in Rod Bray. We have

1181
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Speaker 6: to question exactly how conservative is Rod Bray, including property

1182
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:09,919
Speaker 6: taxes huge issue, and now we're looking at redistricting, and look,

1183
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 6: there's a legitimate argument on either side of the redistricting issue.

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01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 6: But for the Senate pro Tem to come out and

1185
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 6: say President pro Tem and say we're not even going

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01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 6: to have a vote, why isn't that just a big

1187
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 6: old middle finger to Governor Brown?

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Speaker 2: I think it is. And Bron's going to have to

1189
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Speaker 2: figure something out here because this is multiple times now

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Speaker 2: where it looks like the leader of your Senate is

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01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 2: calling the shots more so than you are. And I

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Speaker 2: get it, You've got to have the votes right. No

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Speaker 2: one person gets to be king if you will to

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01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 2: use a popular term in today's vernacular. No, King's right.

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Speaker 2: But if you've got a Republican governor, if you've got

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Speaker 2: a Republican Senate, if you've got a Republican lieutenant governor,

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Speaker 2: you guys should pretty much all be on the same

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Speaker 2: page here. It's been a train wreck so far getting

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Speaker 2: these to work together for one reason or the other.

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Speaker 2: And Johnny tough guy there in the Senate, he's still

1201
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 2: got three more years. So if you're ticked off at

1202
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Speaker 2: Rod Bray and say, let's primary this clown, let's get

1203
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 2: some national money because this has to tick off the

1204
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 2: folks in Washington, right, Donald Trump and JD. Vance because

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01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 2: if they lose the midterms, now Trump knows that House

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Speaker 2: is going to impeach him unless they probably fight fire

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Speaker 2: with fire, unless they do the exact same things other

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Speaker 2: states are doing. But Rod Bray's not going to do that, Yeah, doubtless.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the hypothetical we lose the midterms, that we lose

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Speaker 6: the majority in the House by one seat, and then

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Speaker 6: the midterms and Indiana didn't redistrict, Right, what's the political

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Speaker 6: fallout from that? Interesting hypothetical?

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Speaker 2: And it cracks me up when people are like you

1214
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 2: would be mad if the left did it. The left

1215
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Speaker 2: has been doing it. They've been doing it generally a

1216
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Speaker 2: long time. I'm so tired of some of these nerds,

1217
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 2: and that's what they are, some of these nerds. I

1218
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 2: just want to do the right thing. I want to

1219
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 2: be moral. I want to go to bed tonight and

1220
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 2: feel good. I want to win, like you know, I

1221
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 2: want to win. I want to fight back. I'm an

1222
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 2: eye for an eye type of dude. If you're not okay,

1223
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 2: that's fine, we can have that discussion. But if ILLINOI

1224
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 2: is gonna get squirrely, screw it. Let's get squirrely too.

1225
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:24,440
Speaker 2: But that's not what's going to happen here. And some

1226
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Speaker 2: people are.

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Speaker 6: Alright with that, you know, it's weird to me. I'm

1228
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 6: a big fan of letting your opponents set the rules.

1229
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 6: Right in the sense that I was playing football. If

1230
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Speaker 6: somebody you know, necessarily give me a need of the

1231
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 6: crotch I was playing football, or somebody you know punches

1232
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 6: me in a in a pile after a play's over,

1233
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 6: I would always just look at him and say, Okay,

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01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:46,919
Speaker 6: you just you just dictated the rules. You just set

1235
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Speaker 6: the rules. You want to play that way. All right,

1236
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 6: We're gonna play that way and I'm gonna be better

1237
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 6: at it than you are, exactly. And that's kind of

1238
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 6: what we're looking at here.

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01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 2: It's called in game adjustments, it's rules of engagement. But

1240
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:00,280
Speaker 2: I want to do the right thing.

1241
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 6: Bite me.

1242
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 2: I want to win. Like the people like me. We

1243
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 2: want to win. We're tired of being pushed around and

1244
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 2: feeling virtuous on Facebook and Twitter. That sucks. I gotta

1245
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 2: be honest with you. Yeah, and right now, what's happening

1246
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 2: in Indiana? I think it sucks.

1247
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 6: And have you seen the district maps in Illinois and

1248
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 6: California late New Jersey? I mean you have to laugh

1249
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 6: out loud when you see the way these things are

1250
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 6: are jerrymandered.

1251
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 2: That's why it was so comical when Governor Fat Pig

1252
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 2: over there was trying to give us a finger.

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01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 6: Wagging, right exactly.

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01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 2: Uh, Miss Allison, canna get some mood music please.

1255
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 1: If you havn't girl problems out for bad for you, son.

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01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 4: I've got ninety nine problems, but tame one.

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01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 5: I've got patrol, all right.

1258
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 2: Elise wanted to make so much yes or no? If

1259
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 2: jay Z were to walk in the studio right now?

1260
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:48,440
Speaker 2: Would Guy Ralford know who it was?

1261
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 6: Now? I would know who jay Z is because I've

1262
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 6: seen him sitting at courtside at enough basketball games. Okay,

1263
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 6: that is the only reason. Or I would know who

1264
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 6: jay Z is because I've seen him at sporting events

1265
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 6: with what Beyonce? Right and for a.

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01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 2: While, and he might still be he was a minority

1267
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 2: owner for the Brooklyn Nets.

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01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 4: Well, there you go.

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01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, he with Beyonce. Yes see, I just passed my

1270
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 6: popular culture quiz for the day. Correct As the resident

1271
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 6: old guy, I say I did pretty well.

1272
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:24,680
Speaker 2: The reason we're asking the reason we're playing twenty two

1273
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 2: years ago today, jay Z dropped the album that had

1274
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 2: that song ninety nine problems.

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01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 10: Uh.

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01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 2: I think it's the signature song of jay Z. But

1277
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 2: what if I told you we have a way for

1278
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 2: you to listen to that song from the Beach Boys?

1279
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 2: Would that interest you?

1280
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 8: If you haven't good bad for your son, I've gotten good.

1281
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Speaker 2: Jane Okay.

1282
01:06:59,440 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 16: Dance.

1283
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 2: So that's what it would sound like if the Beach

1284
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 2: Boys the jay Z's Icota hit ninety nine problems?

1285
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 8: Are you really okay?

1286
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 1: Are you everything's gonna be okay?

1287
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:19,440
Speaker 12: Are you okay?

1288
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:19,919
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1289
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 2: I'm fine.

1290
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 14: I'm pretty freeing far from okay?

1291
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:28,080
Speaker 4: Are you okay with this? Are the Hammer and Nigelia.

1292
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 6: All right?

1293
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 2: So normally Big Nige runs a couple of things by

1294
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 2: me with him being unavailable, him being out. Guy Lford's

1295
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 2: in Let's turn the keys to producer Alison Allison, you're

1296
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:44,919
Speaker 2: gonna host this. You run these stories by me. I'll

1297
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 2: get Guy in the mix. Let's roll talkings.

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Speaker 11: A twenty one year old woman in Florida, all Right,

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Speaker 11: was caught ups super speeding at one hundred and seven

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01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 11: miles per hour last Thursday. When asked why she was

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01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 11: driving so fast, she said she was trying to make

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01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 11: it to Little Caesar's before they closed. And I believe

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01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 11: we have an audio of her explaining herself, there's.

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01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 17: A little Seesons up the street from my house and

1305
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 17: where I was gonna go Johnny, and so I was

1306
01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 17: feeding in a cold that's well, so I literally had

1307
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 17: like fifteen minutes to get there. I didn't even feel

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01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:18,360
Speaker 17: like one hundred and seven. It's just like I was

1309
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 17: driving to get to Little I was hungry. When they

1310
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 17: pulled me over, I'm like, oh my god, am I

1311
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 17: getting pulled over? And by the time I get to

1312
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 17: look to the bag, he's already like I didn't even

1313
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 17: get to go with like into a gas station.

1314
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 14: I didn't even pull over.

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01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 17: He literally got me in the middle of the road

1316
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:34,679
Speaker 17: and I was like going out of green light, and

1317
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 17: he got to my window was like, get out.

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01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 11: Okay, Hammer, are you okay with that?

1319
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 2: You know what I am? I am okay with this.

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01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 2: You guys can sit here and act like you're high

1321
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 2: and mighty all you want. But as somebody who was

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01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 2: fresh off of a speeding ticket, now, I feel like

1323
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 2: it'd be hypocritical if I said Trium that I don't,

1324
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:57,599
Speaker 2: you know, condone speeding or whatever. And let's be honest.

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01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 2: Little Caesar's is good, you know what. That's a hot take.

1326
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:04,839
Speaker 2: Everybody wants to, you know, bash on it. Cheap pizza, whatever,

1327
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 2: crazy bread and she sauce delicious, hot and ready pizzas

1328
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:12,679
Speaker 2: for a low price good. It's Jacob Hammer's favorite type

1329
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 2: of pizza. Like he would rather have Little Caesars than

1330
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 2: pretty much anything. So I will defend Little Caesars. I

1331
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:20,720
Speaker 2: will defend this woman. I'm okay with it.

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01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 5: Guy.

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01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 6: Well, you know, if it's one hundred and seven and thirty.

1334
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 6: We might have to talk to her about that if

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01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 6: it's out on the interstage.

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01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:31,519
Speaker 2: You don't love crazy bread the way she does, you know.

1337
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 6: And I can't be too much of a hypocrite on

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01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 6: this because as somebody who drives a car that is

1339
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 6: kind of built to exceed the speed limit, I've been

1340
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 6: known to do that a few times. And I have

1341
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 6: a really good radar detector which helps a lot. So

1342
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:46,040
Speaker 6: I don't need that.

1343
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 2: I don't, ye apparently you do.

1344
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 6: But I don't want to be a hypocrite here, And

1345
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 6: because I tend to drive a little quicker than perhaps

1346
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 6: the speed limits might be posted.

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01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:58,559
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, all right, how about this one.

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01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 11: It's the holiday season. This is a time when advertisers,

1349
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:04,679
Speaker 11: of course, take beloved Christmas songs we love and change

1350
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:06,720
Speaker 11: the lyrics so that they can sell products to us.

1351
01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 11: And we have the perfect example. You can step aside

1352
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 11: jingle bells, because Audi has cars to sell.

1353
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 6: Her.

1354
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:19,920
Speaker 2: Oh same quattro, clean racing.

1355
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:24,639
Speaker 4: All Oh what it is to drive one?

1356
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 6: And Aaudi leads the way?

1357
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 2: Okay, I think you can stop.

1358
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 11: All right, Hammer, are you okay with this?

1359
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:34,559
Speaker 2: I am okay with this. This is just a marketing

1360
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 2: version of Hammer and Nigel Records. Right again, I feel

1361
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 2: like I'd be a hypocrite if I said, how dare

1362
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:43,839
Speaker 2: you take a popular song and put your own twist

1363
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:46,120
Speaker 2: on it? We do that all the time. It's Hammer

1364
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:49,560
Speaker 2: and Nigel Records. And you know what, sometimes you remember

1365
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:52,640
Speaker 2: these things that way around the holidays, people are in

1366
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:56,000
Speaker 2: the spirit. And now when you hear you know, dashing

1367
01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:58,800
Speaker 2: through the snow, I'm gonna think about an Audie, you

1368
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 2: know what. I'm a sucker. I'm bought in. I'm okay

1369
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 2: with that.

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01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 6: Now, you do this for entertainment purposes, so you have

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01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 6: a pure license to do that, which is absolutely okay.

1372
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 6: This is for purely greedy commercial purposes. And the answer

1373
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 6: is no, I'm not okay with this. This is disgusting.

1374
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:17,480
Speaker 6: I don't like it. And besides, we have we're inundated

1375
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 6: with too much with Christmas music anyway, starting about now

1376
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 6: through the end of the year, and now we've got

1377
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:27,760
Speaker 6: to listen to it during commercials too. And I was

1378
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 6: happy it wasn't the Chipmunk song as we found out

1379
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:32,559
Speaker 6: that would be a major problem, as we've already discussed.

1380
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:35,680
Speaker 6: But they're going to bastardize even the legitimate Christmas songs. No,

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01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 6: I have a problem with that.

1382
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 2: I love it when we have Guy Relford in here,

1383
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:42,840
Speaker 2: because as much of a tough guy as Guy is,

1384
01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:46,679
Speaker 2: Nigel and I usually bully him into working for free

1385
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 2: for a little bit here. Completely true, It's time to

1386
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:55,000
Speaker 2: ask the gun guy your two A questions answered by

1387
01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 2: the best to a attorney in the United States. Just

1388
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:02,320
Speaker 2: keep your stuff as brief as possible so we can

1389
01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:05,639
Speaker 2: get to as many calls as we can. And once again,

1390
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:09,680
Speaker 2: for full transparency, it's not a big secret. Guy, you

1391
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 2: are part of this Westfield home invasion shooting Whitestown. Yes, Whitestown.

1392
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Whitestown. So you cannot really go into details

1393
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 2: on that. I know it's a high profile case. You

1394
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 2: can't really get into specifics. But if somebody wants to

1395
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 2: talk about something similar or the castle doctrine, you can do.

1396
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:29,680
Speaker 5: That, right.

1397
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 6: I can always explain what the losses. I just can't

1398
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 6: make any specific statement about that case. Okay, So there

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01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 6: you go.

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01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:38,720
Speaker 2: Justin is up first. Justin, Welcome to the Hammer and

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01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 2: Nigel Show.

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01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:41,559
Speaker 7: Hi.

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01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:47,680
Speaker 18: I had a question, I can are you legally.

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01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 15: Allowed to sell your own personal handgun to.

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01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:55,479
Speaker 18: Anyone else you know that was wanting.

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01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:58,920
Speaker 19: To buy it legally yea, by you know, signing a

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01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 19: paper and Waitnes.

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01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, I mean Indiana doesn't put any restrictions on

1409
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:07,680
Speaker 6: the ability to sell a gun to another private individual

1410
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 6: except that you can't knowingly sell a gun a handgun

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01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:16,639
Speaker 6: to someone under eighteen, and you can't knowingly transfer any

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01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 6: firearm to someone who you know to be a prohibited

1413
01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 6: possessor who can't buy their own gun from a dealer.

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01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:27,639
Speaker 6: So if somebody has a felony conviction, or they're been

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01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 6: convicted of a crime of domestic violence or something along

1416
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 6: those lines, but as long as you don't knowingly transfer

1417
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 6: a gun to someone who's either under eighteen or is

1418
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:40,360
Speaker 6: a prohibited possessor themselves, then you can sell a gun

1419
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:43,639
Speaker 6: to another private individual and do that like you could

1420
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 6: sell a couch or a toaster.

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01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to Jeff. Jeff, welcome to the

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01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:51,639
Speaker 2: Hammer in Nigel Show. We got Guy Relford here.

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01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:56,759
Speaker 18: Hey, wow, I made it through.

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01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:01,600
Speaker 12: Yeah I got one for you. So how do you

1425
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:05,600
Speaker 12: fight an order of protection from out of state? But

1426
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 12: where the judge literally told me, for no explicit reason,

1427
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 12: that I wasn't able to purchase or possess a firearm.

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01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:18,479
Speaker 6: Well, I mean the time to fight that was when

1429
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 6: they scheduled a hearing on the order of protection. You

1430
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 6: show up and you fight it, and you convinced the

1431
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 6: judge or you hire an attorney to help you do this,

1432
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:31,360
Speaker 6: that that order of protection should not be entered the

1433
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:33,640
Speaker 6: fact that the order has already been entered. Like here

1434
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:37,520
Speaker 6: in Indiana, a domestic violence order of protection typically expires

1435
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 6: after two years. And I don't know what state this

1436
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:43,640
Speaker 6: came out of, or you know what the context of

1437
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:47,880
Speaker 6: your question is geographically, but here in Indiana, if you

1438
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 6: get an order of protection issued against you, you either

1439
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 6: have to wait for it to expire, or you can

1440
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:56,799
Speaker 6: ask the court to schedule another hearing. Let's just say

1441
01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 6: you didn't get notice of the first hearing or you

1442
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 6: couldn't make it there for some reason. You may be

1443
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:05,760
Speaker 6: able to convince the court to grant another hearing where

1444
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 6: you can go back and fight it. But for the

1445
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:12,000
Speaker 6: most part, once you get a domestic violence order of

1446
01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:15,679
Speaker 6: protection issued against you, then for the term of that order,

1447
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:17,720
Speaker 6: like I said here in Indiana, they are typically for

1448
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:21,720
Speaker 6: two years, you cannot possess firearm and The only way

1449
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:23,479
Speaker 6: to do that is to figure out some way to

1450
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:27,320
Speaker 6: perhaps get that judge to rescind that order, depending on

1451
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:28,440
Speaker 6: the law of the jurisdiction.

1452
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:32,360
Speaker 2: You're talking about guy from the YouTube chat, which, by

1453
01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:34,120
Speaker 2: the way, we need twenty eight more people to give

1454
01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 2: us a light, give us a thumbslung.

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01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 6: Let's go.

1456
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 2: Come on. We got Guy Ralford working for free here.

1457
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:40,160
Speaker 2: If that doesn't warrant a thumbs up with the YouTube chat,

1458
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:43,760
Speaker 2: I don't know what does. Daniel writes to the gun guy,

1459
01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:47,640
Speaker 2: my daughter is in prison for drug dealing. When she

1460
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:49,720
Speaker 2: gets out, will she be able to stay at my

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01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 2: house because of the firearms that I have?

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01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 6: Yeah? No, for two reasons. One, in all likelihood, she'll

1463
01:15:56,840 --> 01:16:00,880
Speaker 6: be on probation when she gets out, and the term

1464
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:04,519
Speaker 6: of probation here in Indiana is always going to say

1465
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 6: that there cannot be any firearms in the house where

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01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 6: she lives. Secondly, if it's a felony conviction, which I

1467
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:16,040
Speaker 6: assume it is since she's actually doing prison time, then

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01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:19,559
Speaker 6: she can't have either actual or constructive possession of a

1469
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:23,799
Speaker 6: gun while she has a felony conviction, and having access

1470
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:28,960
Speaker 6: to guns in the home would count as constructive possession

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01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:31,800
Speaker 6: where she could go back to jail for now being

1472
01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 6: a felon in possession of a firearm, and what constitutes

1473
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:40,160
Speaker 6: access and constructive possession gets a little more complicated, and

1474
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:43,000
Speaker 6: I won't go into that right now, but the primary

1475
01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 6: issue is virtually every probation order you're ever going to

1476
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:49,560
Speaker 6: see is going to say there can't be any firearms

1477
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 6: where the person lives during probation. So that's going to

1478
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:56,160
Speaker 6: be a big problem. And so the short answer is

1479
01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:58,559
Speaker 6: about ninety nine percent probably not.

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01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:01,600
Speaker 2: Ryan is up next, Ryan, Welcome to The Hammer of

1481
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:03,479
Speaker 2: Nigel Show. Guy Relferds here.

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01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:08,759
Speaker 18: Hey, thanks, Yes, I have a question about Indiana long guns.

1483
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:11,960
Speaker 18: I wanted to see if it is illegal in Indiana,

1484
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:15,439
Speaker 18: or specifically Hendricks County, if you know, to carry my

1485
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:18,919
Speaker 18: firearm into a bar while consuming alcohol.

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01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 6: One d percent. And there's so much misinformation on this.

1487
01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 6: In fact, I've seen people google this and get some

1488
01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 6: ridiculous AI response that says, oh, no, it's illegal. No,

1489
01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 6: Indiana has no law against consuming alcohol while in possession

1490
01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:40,960
Speaker 6: of a firearm. Indiana has no law against possession of

1491
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:45,759
Speaker 6: a firearm in a establishment that serves alcohol. Indiana doesn't

1492
01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:48,919
Speaker 6: even have a law that prohibits possession of a firearm

1493
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 6: while you're intoxicated. So if you're driving home, not you,

1494
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:57,960
Speaker 6: but someone hypothetically is driving home, you know, stone dead

1495
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:01,040
Speaker 6: drunk and gets pulled up and they've got a gun

1496
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:02,960
Speaker 6: in the car. They're going to jail for O W

1497
01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:06,679
Speaker 6: Y or a lot of people call duy, But there's

1498
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:09,639
Speaker 6: no separate crime for you know, for having a gun

1499
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:13,759
Speaker 6: while they were drunk. So Indiana doesn't have those laws.

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01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 6: So and I frankly like that. I mean, I always

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01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:20,639
Speaker 6: carry a gun everywhere I can legally carry a gun.

1502
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 6: I'm sitting here carrying a gun right now. We're gonna

1503
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 6: have beer sample Friday, and I'm going to consume a

1504
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 6: beer with Hammer here in a minute. And I'm not

1505
01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:31,400
Speaker 6: breaking any law in Indiana. So that's an important fact

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01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:31,600
Speaker 6: to know.

1507
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:35,120
Speaker 2: William is up next, William, Welcome to the Hammer in

1508
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:37,160
Speaker 2: Nigel's show, Guy ra Elford is here.

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01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:38,760
Speaker 5: Go ahead, all right.

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01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:41,439
Speaker 19: So I'm a felon and I always wondered if I

1511
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:44,240
Speaker 19: was in a situation where I've seen somebody committing an

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01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 19: arm robbery and I was to disarm them and take

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01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:49,360
Speaker 19: that firearm away from them, would I be charged with

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01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:50,639
Speaker 19: that firearm as a felon.

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01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 6: Oh so hold on, So you're a fellon and you

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01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 6: you stop a robbery and take the gun away from them,

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01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 6: and you then, you know, hold that gun on them.

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01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:05,479
Speaker 19: Yes, So what I would I then be in trouble

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01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:07,240
Speaker 19: for that's a firearm as a felon.

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01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:07,639
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:10,600
Speaker 6: I'll give you a two part answer. One is technically,

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01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:13,360
Speaker 6: if you're in possession of a firearm as a felon,

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01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:17,240
Speaker 6: that's against federal law. If you're a serious violent fella,

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01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:21,960
Speaker 6: that's also against Indiana law. So the short answer is

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01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:24,599
Speaker 6: are you subject to being prosecuted for that because you're

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01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:25,840
Speaker 6: in possession of a gun is a fela?

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01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:26,479
Speaker 5: Yes.

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01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 6: Separate question is are you likely to be prosecuted? I

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01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 6: mean a lot of prosecutors are, you know, Low County

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01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 6: prosecutors are elected officials. They're not looking to, you know,

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01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 6: upset people, and they don't necessarily want to turn heroes

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01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:44,040
Speaker 6: into criminals. And so there's a separate question of whether

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01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:47,040
Speaker 6: you'd be prosecuted. But would you technically be one.

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01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:48,880
Speaker 2: Of that's Ryan Mears and Marion County.

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01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:52,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, you're probably going to jail and that sucks.

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01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:52,759
Speaker 2: I think that sucks.

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01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:56,840
Speaker 6: If if he's a serious violent fellaon, which then would

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01:19:56,920 --> 01:20:02,200
Speaker 6: break Indiana law, violating Indiana law. So yeah, you cannot

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01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 6: possess a firearm as a felon under both state and

1540
01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:09,160
Speaker 6: federal law in Indiana. Again is restricted to serious violent felas.

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01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:13,320
Speaker 6: John is up next, John, Welcome to the show. Guy Relfritz.

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01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 5: Here.

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01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:20,879
Speaker 19: I know a friend of mine received a gifted AKA

1544
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:23,360
Speaker 19: forty seven that was a war trophy and it's a

1545
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:24,799
Speaker 19: fully automatic weapon.

1546
01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:26,080
Speaker 6: Oh okay, it's.

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01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 19: Been dmailed slightly, but he wants to know if it's

1548
01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 19: possible for him to sell that weapon.

1549
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 6: But it's still full otto, Is that right?

1550
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:39,280
Speaker 8: Yes, but it's been slightly de milled.

1551
01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, demilitarized. You mean, I don't know what slightly he means.

1552
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:47,559
Speaker 6: If it's still capable of filatto fire in other words,

1553
01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:49,679
Speaker 6: you pull the trigger and you get more than one bullet,

1554
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:53,880
Speaker 6: then it has to have been registered as an NFA.

1555
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:57,240
Speaker 6: Item is a fully automatic firearm. And if it's not,

1556
01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:01,160
Speaker 6: that person audit. Think of it exactly like two kilos

1557
01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:04,719
Speaker 6: of a cocaine right, In other words, if you found

1558
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:07,680
Speaker 6: two kilos of cocaine in Grandpa's basement or.

1559
01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:09,639
Speaker 2: Let's say, the situation room at the White House.

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01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:13,000
Speaker 6: I don't know, yeah, just yeah. But I mean, you know,

1561
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:14,720
Speaker 6: because I get this question all the time as part

1562
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:17,080
Speaker 6: of my practice, because somebody comes in my office with

1563
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:18,639
Speaker 6: a gym bag and they open it up and there's

1564
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:20,799
Speaker 6: a you know, a guy came in with this beautiful

1565
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:25,519
Speaker 6: storm GIVERB forty four assault weapon quote unquote from World

1566
01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:28,960
Speaker 6: War two, fully automatic, and it was the thing if transferable,

1567
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:31,880
Speaker 6: was worth like forty fifty thousand dollars, but it had

1568
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:35,320
Speaker 6: never been registered, and he was heartbroken. I said, it's

1569
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:39,280
Speaker 6: not registered. It's it's contraband it's illegal to possess this thing.

1570
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:42,040
Speaker 6: And he said, what, I can't sell it? And I go, well,

1571
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:45,160
Speaker 6: you can, but not legally. And that's where I said,

1572
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:47,600
Speaker 6: think of it like two kilos of cocaine. If you

1573
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:50,720
Speaker 6: found two kilos of cocaine in Grandpa's basement, could you

1574
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:52,800
Speaker 6: sell it? Sure, But if you sell it to a

1575
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:56,360
Speaker 6: you know, a DEA agent, you're going to do ten

1576
01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:58,880
Speaker 6: years in prison. And if you get caught selling a

1577
01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:02,720
Speaker 6: fully automatic fire that's unregistered, you're going to go do

1578
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 6: some jail time. So people have to make their own decisions.

1579
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:08,599
Speaker 2: We got one more here, Edward. Welcome to the show.

1580
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:11,400
Speaker 2: Guy Relferance here, Thank you guy.

1581
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:13,759
Speaker 16: I wanted to ask you a question about open carry

1582
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:18,160
Speaker 16: and close carry. I'm a little abused about do I

1583
01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:22,560
Speaker 16: need a license to carry a gun concealed or not concealed.

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01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:23,160
Speaker 5: No.

1585
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:26,679
Speaker 6: Under constitutional carry as we passed in twenty twenty two,

1586
01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:30,400
Speaker 6: constitutional carry applies to both open and concealed carry. And

1587
01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:33,080
Speaker 6: there's a lot of bad information out there on this too.

1588
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:36,240
Speaker 6: You go google this and all kinds of ridiculous crap

1589
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:39,679
Speaker 6: will come up. But the bottom line is constitutional carry,

1590
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:41,800
Speaker 6: which means you can carry as long as you're not

1591
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:45,240
Speaker 6: prohibited by state or federal law from possessing a firearm.

1592
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 6: You can carry a handgun either openly or concealed without

1593
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:52,599
Speaker 6: a license in Indiana as long as you're eighteen and over.

1594
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:57,080
Speaker 6: Great group of calls. Appreciate you guys, great questions. We

1595
01:22:57,160 --> 01:22:58,759
Speaker 6: are seven thumbs up away.

1596
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:01,439
Speaker 2: If we get to one fifty again, we'll bring Alison

1597
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:03,240
Speaker 2: on the camera and make her crack a beer with

1598
01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:06,719
Speaker 2: us on Beer Sample Friday. But time's a factor because

1599
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:12,200
Speaker 2: Beer Sample Friday is next and it's beer sample Friday.

1600
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:23,240
Speaker 2: Now I got some beers. It's drake A beers on sale.

1601
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:27,679
Speaker 2: People come down something brought to you by Thompson Furniture

1602
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:31,080
Speaker 2: and Mattress in Columbus, the best place to get that

1603
01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:35,280
Speaker 2: temperpedic mattress or whatever you're looking for. Spencer and the

1604
01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:38,439
Speaker 2: gang always taking care of us, take care of those

1605
01:23:38,479 --> 01:23:43,080
Speaker 2: guys down at Thompson Furniture and Mattress. So one we

1606
01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:46,559
Speaker 2: did hit the appropriate amount of thumbs up to warrant

1607
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:49,600
Speaker 2: some screen time for Allison. So if you're on the

1608
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:54,200
Speaker 2: YouTube chat, jump over watch the cameras. I'm gonna bring

1609
01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 2: the first lady of the Hammer and Nigel show up here,

1610
01:23:57,200 --> 01:24:01,360
Speaker 2: the lovely producer Allison and number two guy. This beer

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01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:06,120
Speaker 2: I bought today because it sounds like you. It's called

1612
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 2: soul Ride.

1613
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 6: Now we're talking.

1614
01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:10,200
Speaker 2: You're a dude likes to get on the harley once

1615
01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:10,759
Speaker 2: in a while.

1616
01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:13,920
Speaker 6: I've been a biker as long as i've been a lawyer,

1617
01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:16,439
Speaker 6: so absolutely that's a big part of my life.

1618
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:20,559
Speaker 2: This is Soul Ride from Fountain Square Brewing Company. And

1619
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:24,160
Speaker 2: how about that alcohol per volume there, guy, bro.

1620
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:27,960
Speaker 6: It's six point eight percent APV. This has got a

1621
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:30,519
Speaker 6: little a little top spin on it, all right.

1622
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:32,479
Speaker 2: So in a count of three, Alison, you two, we're

1623
01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:33,799
Speaker 2: gonna crack these bad boys.

1624
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:34,240
Speaker 1: One.

1625
01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:41,559
Speaker 2: Two Allison guy. Three cheers to the weekend. Everybody, let's

1626
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 2: try these bad boys out. Oh that's good. You know

1627
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:47,560
Speaker 2: that is a good beverage.

1628
01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:50,240
Speaker 6: That actually is good. It's an India pale ale and

1629
01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:52,479
Speaker 6: you know what, with a meal, I'd be all over this.

1630
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:54,479
Speaker 2: Oh this is pretty good. I'm gonna have another drink.

1631
01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:56,240
Speaker 6: Good. No, I agree with you.

1632
01:24:56,560 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 2: Square Brewing Company Soul Ride in honor of a guy

1633
01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:02,920
Speaker 2: Relford riding through the neighborhood on his Harley.

1634
01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:04,080
Speaker 6: Now we're talking, all right.

1635
01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:06,599
Speaker 2: So we got a little montage of country music beer

1636
01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:09,320
Speaker 2: songs here. This is from our friends there. I ruined it.

1637
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:12,320
Speaker 2: We're gonna ride this out. Go ahead and play it, Allison.

1638
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:18,160
Speaker 2: The weekend is here. Weekend is underway in Indianapolis. It's

1639
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:19,240
Speaker 2: the Hammery Nigel Show.

1640
01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:30,960
Speaker 13: Cool cool last cool Beer.

1641
01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:31,640
Speaker 12: Cool.

1642
01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:36,400
Speaker 19: Cool Beer.

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01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:40,440
Speaker 7: Gos Aschool