1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: Live from vall Hartbier and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. 3 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody to Tony Kats today August first, Friday, Friday. 4 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 3: Tony is out today. 5 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 2: I'm Cura Davis, William my good friend Cody. He'll be 6 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 2: back with the Guy next week. It's always great to 7 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 2: be on this mic. I' one of my favorite shows 8 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 2: to do, and Tony's been a great friend for a 9 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 2: long time. 10 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 3: So oh, it's a pleasure to sit in this seat. 11 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 3: Well ask promise, I promise. 12 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: I've been promising all shows and telling you about this 13 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 2: story I ran across online. 14 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:53,319 Speaker 3: Maybe some of you have already heard of it. 15 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 2: I had never heard of it before, but I thought 16 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 2: it was so interesting I wanted to share it with 17 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 2: my readers, so I just summarized it put a post 18 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 2: up on my substack. 19 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 3: You can go find it. 20 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 2: Just go to substack and look up my name just 21 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 2: Here Davis. You can look up just Here Davis. This 22 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 2: is kind of brand like my podcast is just listened 23 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 2: to yourself, So everything else I do outside of the 24 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 2: podcast is just Carey Davis. 25 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 3: So if you search that on a substack, which I love. 26 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 2: By the way, If you are not using substack, you 27 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 2: are sleeping on a lot of great information that doesn't 28 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 2: have anything to do with politics. You can be in 29 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: the political substack world if you want, but there's substacked 30 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 2: gardening writing like you'll find access to people that'll go 31 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 2: right into your inbox every day. 32 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 3: I am not getting paid to sell this. 33 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, as a lay person who enjoys reading 34 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 2: and finding new stories, I have found substec to be 35 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 2: an incredibly valuable resource, and it's got. 36 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 3: Me connected into communities. I didn't even know this well. 37 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 3: Here is the story. 38 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 2: The title of my piece today is called In nineteen 39 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 2: forty six, angry gis led an armed rebellion against their 40 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 2: corrupt politicians and one I don't know if you've heard 41 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 2: this story, but it was the story of a town 42 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 2: in Tennessee in mcmiinton County in nineteen forty six. I 43 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 2: got this article from military dot com. It's where I 44 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 2: thought author bright Blake still well he wrote this back 45 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, in nineteen forties. 46 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 3: This is a real I think we should be teaching 47 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 3: the story. 48 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,839 Speaker 2: Target In nineteen forties, McMinn County and Tennessee was run 49 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 2: by an entrenched political machine that had controlled much of 50 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: Tennessee politics since the early nineteen thirty The head of 51 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 2: that machine was the elected sheriff, Paul Cantrell, who ruled 52 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 2: the county with an iron fist for a decade. I 53 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 2: think all of us can relate to that, right, some 54 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 2: entrenched politician who has just like filled all the local 55 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 2: positions with their cronies and their family members, and all 56 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 2: of the people who are we protected you. 57 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 3: Are abusing you. 58 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 2: I think there's a story like that in every region 59 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 2: in America. One of the laws the look of Tiffany 60 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 2: Henyrid in Dalton, Illinois. One of the laws the sheriff 61 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 2: endorsed and enforced was particularly nasty, aimed at unfairly targeting 62 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:23,679 Speaker 2: citizens for harassments and fine. One of the most dastardly 63 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 2: laws in the county at that time gave the sheriff's 64 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 2: office a fee for every person it arrested, incarcerated, and released, 65 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 2: whether they were guilty or not. Local bar owners pointed 66 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 2: out prominent patrons for the cops to avoid, but everyone 67 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 2: else was likely to get hassled. No one was safe Athens. 68 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 2: This is Athens, Tennessee. Now Athens Georgia. Athens, the county 69 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 2: seat was home to a large number of men who 70 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 2: had gone off to the wharf. As the sheriff became 71 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 2: more and more cruel, the local population began to rumble 72 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 2: about what the returning gis would seek when they returned. 73 00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 2: According to American Heritage Magazine's Loans Severer, they would tell themselves, 74 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 2: wait until the gis get back. 75 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 3: Things will be different. 76 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 2: Well, veterans return home with money in their pockets and 77 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 2: a desperate need to celebrate and or drown their trauma. 78 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 2: This made them a particularly ripe target for the sheriff 79 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 2: and his harassment squad. By the elections of nineteen forty six, 80 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 2: everyone had just about had enough. The veterans formed it 81 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 2: doesn't sound familiar. The veterans formed an outsider political party 82 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 2: and launched a campaign to unseat the sheriff and other 83 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 2: corrupt politicians. Veterans from across Tennessee traveled to the county 84 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 2: to observe and protect the ballot boxes. The new sheriff 85 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 2: was a sheriff named Pat Mansfield, but he was still 86 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 2: working in conjunction with the old sheriff, Paul Pintrell, and 87 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 2: they were still working to capture the ballot boxes and 88 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 2: rig the elections. Voter intimidation reports were everywhere. A legal 89 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 2: representative for the GI Party, that's the Veterans party that 90 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 2: they formed, was arrested for protesting voting irregularities. Soon after, 91 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 2: an elderly black farmer was beaten and shot by a 92 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 2: deputy for trying to vote. The GIS descended on the location, 93 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 2: forcing the offending deputy to almost fight his way to 94 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 2: his cruiser with a loaded pistol and the ballot box. 95 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 2: Deputies arrived at the GI party headquarters to make arrest 96 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 2: for the incident, but they were beaten and taken Captain, 97 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 2: do you hear what happened? The deputies tried to steal 98 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 2: the ballot box and beat up a black farmer for voting, 99 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 2: And the GIS went and beat up those deputies and 100 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 2: kidnapped them, and they detained them. 101 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 3: Oh you guys, They beat and detained the deputies. 102 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 2: Despite's and other physical altercations were reported across the precincts. 103 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 2: Despite the fierce battle for the safety of the ballot boxes, 104 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 2: the Sheriff's office absconded with a number of them and 105 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 2: barricaded themselves inside the local jail. 106 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 3: But here is where it gets good. 107 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 2: Instead of letting the corrupt government win, the hardcore veterans 108 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 2: seized the local National Guard armory, taking two ton trucks, 109 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 2: taking a two ton truck, arms and ammunitions to the 110 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 2: local jail. 111 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 3: An hours long. 112 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 2: Gunfight took place, but it failed to oust the sheriffs 113 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 2: and their men. So they went to the jail and 114 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 2: they launched a gun battle and assault on the jail 115 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 2: to get back those ballot boxes that the sheriff, the 116 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 2: elected sheriff, had stolen. 117 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 3: But that didn't work. They but did they give up? No, 118 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 3: these this is the greatest generation, my friends. They had 119 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 3: just returned from war. They beat Hitler. They were not 120 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 3: giving up. 121 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 2: They dynamited the jail and the wee hours of the morning, 122 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 2: forcing the deputies to surrender and surrender the ballot boxes. 123 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:03,239 Speaker 2: The sheriff and his cohorts escape, but they eventually turned 124 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 2: themselves in and relinquished their positions to the rightful winners 125 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 2: of the election, which was the GI Party. Mansfield eventually 126 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 2: resigned conceded the election to the GI candidate Knox Henry. 127 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 2: All fees in excess of five thousand dollars were returned 128 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 2: to the townspeople. Can you imagine in nineteen forty six 129 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 2: they were charging people over five thousand dollars to get 130 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 2: themselves out of jail in nineteen forty six, Yeah, this 131 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 2: is tyranny. All fees were returned to the townspeople, and 132 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 2: the corruption that ran rampant was soon turned out at 133 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 2: every level of government. Round of applause for our gi heroes. 134 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 2: This took that they call it the Battle of Athens. 135 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 2: The Battle of Athens in Athens, Tennessee in nineteen forty six. 136 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 3: And as I was. 137 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 2: Reading the story, and this is why I wanted to 138 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 2: share it with you, excuse me, that's I was reading 139 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 2: the story, I thought to myself, Wow, this is a 140 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 2: really inspirational story because I'm looking around at how quickly 141 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 2: Trump is changing things, and I really, even though I'm 142 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 2: full of hope and have been an activist since the 143 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 2: Tea Party days, I guess I'm just like most of 144 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 2: you out there, just kind of thinking while the corruption 145 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 2: is what it is, and there's only so much you 146 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 2: can do. 147 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 3: It's just the way it is. And then Trump comes 148 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 3: in and it's like, no, we can do stuff. It's 149 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 3: gonna be hard, it's gonna be nasty, but we can 150 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 3: do stuff. 151 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 2: We can be effective, we can change things if we 152 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 2: have the political will and the right leaders. That's a 153 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 2: powerful message, you know, and it maybe think about how 154 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 2: what we lost when we stop teaching the core values 155 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 2: of the Revolutionary War. Right Again, I have public school students, 156 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 2: so I know how this goes down. 157 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 3: In most public schools. 158 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 2: You're doing a cursory summary of the Revolutionary War, and 159 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 2: then you're spending hours and hours and hours talking about 160 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 2: slave narratives and immigration and all of the you know 161 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 2: in the McCarthyism, and you spend hours and hours drilling 162 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 2: down on the terrible things that America has done and 163 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 2: been through, But you don't instill anything that has to 164 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 2: do with patriotism or government. Right the only time you 165 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 2: talk about government is to say, well, this is what 166 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 2: a republican government did, or this is what a republican 167 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 2: or what a government like the. 168 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 3: One we have now did. 169 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 2: What would change if this was the type of story 170 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 2: we told our kids every day and school, if this 171 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 2: was the type of story they had to memorize, not 172 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 2: because it glorifies guns or violence of it, but because 173 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 2: it is an example of the revolutionary spirit of the 174 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 2: American citizen. And it is an example of how our 175 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 2: relationship and our right relationship to our government, and how 176 00:09:54,200 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 2: if our government has turned into tyrannical, authoritarian creeps, we're 177 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 2: allowed to get mad about it, and we're allowed to 178 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 2: do something about it. And we can do something about it, 179 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 2: not just because we have our Second Amendment rights and 180 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 2: our human rights, but because we have the will, because 181 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 2: we have the metal, because we are Americans, and this 182 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 2: is what Americans do. 183 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 3: This is what we do. 184 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 2: We don't sit and whine about problems. We fix problems. 185 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 2: And that's been the problem with the left for the 186 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 2: last five years. 187 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 3: We've been forced we've. 188 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 2: Been muzzled and handcuffed and forced to listen to all 189 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 2: their whining for five years while the rest of us, 190 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 2: living in reality, are thinking, Okay, let's fix things. How 191 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 2: do we fix things? But we weren't allowed to even 192 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 2: ask that question. We COVID trained us, not just COVID, 193 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 2: but many decades of this. We've been trained out of 194 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 2: our revolutionary spirit and I think we need it back. 195 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 2: And I think where we start is the schools. We 196 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 2: start teaching stories like this in every school. It should 197 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 2: be at the front of every museum. It should be 198 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 2: on the cover of every textbook, right not because necessarily 199 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 2: it's this one story that's the best story. We need 200 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 2: to start indoctrinating our kids into what the revolutionary spirit 201 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 2: of America is. 202 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 3: Our government, for good reason, doesn't want to do that. 203 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 2: All right, let's take a break. I'm Curia Davis filling 204 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 2: in for Tony Katz, and you're listening to Tony Kats today. 205 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody to Tony Katz Today. 206 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 3: We are rocking into the weekend. We are on our way. 207 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 2: Tony Kats is out. I'm your villain host Kira Davis. 208 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 2: How We've been talking about a lot of stuff and 209 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 2: I think I had a journey for this episode, but 210 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 2: X has been getting in my way because I keep 211 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 2: going to the feed and then seeing things that interest 212 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 2: me that I want to talk to you about. But 213 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 2: this one post is neither here nor there. Will Spencer, 214 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 2: he's a podcaster. He got married this week and he 215 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 2: said we court it for eleven months, and you know what, 216 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 2: I just felt like, Yeah, I want to talk about 217 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 2: that for a second. Ladies business more for ladies, because 218 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 2: I do think ladies are the keepers of the timelines 219 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 2: of relationships. We really are the keepers of romance and 220 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 2: we set the boundaries for men. Men break boundaries, that's 221 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 2: their job, right, and women set boundaries. 222 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 3: That's our job. And uh, but. 223 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 2: Y'all are dating too long, is what I'm saying. Y'all 224 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 2: are dating too long, but specifically ladies, because I think 225 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 2: most men, not all men, but many men don't know 226 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 2: that they want marriage, right. 227 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 3: They don't. This sounds terrible, but they don't. 228 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 2: You can ask many husbands right who finally settled down 229 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 2: with the one and then realized later, oh my gosh, 230 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 2: this is the best thing I ever did and I 231 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 2: can't imagine my life without this person. But most men, 232 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 2: you know, they have to see that and they got 233 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 2: to come to it themselves. 234 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 3: You can't force them. 235 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 2: I'm not suggesting that, but I'm just saying it's a 236 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 2: different We look at marriage differently, And ladies, if a 237 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 2: man wants, a man knows, a man knows, he knows. 238 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 2: If you're the one, think about this. How many times 239 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 2: in your life has this happened either to you or 240 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 2: you've seen it happen to somebody else. A data guy 241 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 2: you're dating for a while, it's pretty serious. 242 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 3: Uh, you want it to go. 243 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 2: To marriage, but he just says like, I don't believe 244 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 2: in marriage, or it's just a piece of paper. 245 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 3: I don't see what the big deal is. It's working 246 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 3: for us right now. 247 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 2: He wants to be with you, but he brushes off 248 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 2: that that extra commitment, and maybe you make that work 249 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 2: in your mind for a little while, and then for 250 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 2: whatever reason, you break up and six months later he's 251 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 2: married with a kid on the way. It happens all 252 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 2: the time, doesn't because it wasn't that he didn't want 253 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 2: to get married, it's that he didn't want to get 254 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 2: married to you. 255 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 3: A man knows, a man knows when he wants to 256 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 3: be with a woman, and he will propose. 257 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 2: So, ladies, I believe a year is more than enough 258 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 2: time to know if you want to spend the rest 259 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 2: of your life with somebody, and if you can't imagine 260 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 2: yourself spending the rest of your life with that person, 261 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 2: don't waste your time. 262 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 3: You don't have it. 263 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 2: You don't have time, ladies. The timeline on your ovaries 264 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 2: is limited. Don't let the world lie to you. Just 265 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 2: because you can look twenty at forty doesn't mean your 266 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 2: ovaries are going to be twenty at forty if you 267 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 2: want a family, If you're starting a family in your twenties, 268 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 2: it's already too late. Biologically speaking, our bodies are really 269 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 2: made to be starting the. 270 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 3: Birth process in our teens now. 271 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 2: Societally speaking, no, regardless, biology stays the same. So when 272 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 2: we're pushing families into our late twenties, that's already pretty 273 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 2: late on the biological timeline. Men don't have that same timeline. Ladies, 274 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 2: you have to set it. That means you have to 275 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 2: be brave. Tony's going to be like, why did you 276 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 2: turn my show into a relationship podcast? I feel it's 277 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 2: just a message that doesn't get set enough out there 278 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 2: because we're all telling these women to go girl boss 279 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 2: your way to the future, to screw everybody and be happy. 280 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 3: And you know what, I'm. 281 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 2: In my fifties now, and I have a ton of 282 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 2: single friends my age and older who made that choice 283 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 2: right to go get their bag in their twenties, to 284 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 2: go live it up, to have their adventures, to do 285 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 2: what they want to not get locked down to date 286 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 2: as many guys, and now they're at an age where 287 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:26,239 Speaker 2: they don't have the same options and they're lonely and regretful. 288 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 3: Every last one of them, with maybe with the exception of. 289 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 2: It's great, is they're regretful. So, ladies, let me encourage 290 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 2: you to be honest with younger women when they're coming 291 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 2: to you with this kind of stuff. I had a 292 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 2: family member who was thirty five and she was dating 293 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 2: a guy for a long time and I was like, 294 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 2: are you guys gonna get married? 295 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 3: And she's like, well, you know, we're thinking. 296 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 2: About it and we're not in a rush. And I said, well, 297 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 2: do you want kids? And she said, yeah, I want four. 298 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 2: At thirty five, she said I want four. So I 299 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 2: said to her, if you want four kids at your age, 300 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 2: you needed to have started ten years ago. You're gonna 301 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 2: be lucky to squeeze at one, so you better get 302 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 2: that done. And she was like, wow, Kira, that's harsh. 303 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 2: You just really don't pull any punches. I didn't think 304 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 2: it was harsh. I thought it was reality. She said, 305 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 2: no one had ever told her that before. And you 306 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 2: know what, She's not the first grown woman I've heard 307 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 2: say that. I know a woman in her fifties who 308 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 2: thought who turned fifty? She turned fifty and thought she 309 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 2: was gonna go have a baby. She thought she could 310 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 2: squeeze out one. 311 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 3: At fifty. She was an actress. 312 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 2: She did her whole life in the industry, and then 313 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 2: at fifty thought, I'm gonna go get all this great 314 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 2: help and I'm finally going to become a mom. 315 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 3: Now I'm ready. And of course the doctor told her, no, 316 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 3: it's too old. 317 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 2: You don't have any eggs left and any if you 318 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 2: were to get pregnant as a first time pregnancy at fifty, 319 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 2: you're probably it's not going to happen. And she was devastated. 320 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 2: She was devastated. No one had ever told her that before. 321 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 2: You think people know, and they don't because they watch 322 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 2: MSNBC all day and they tell you be a girl, boss, 323 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 2: do whatever you want. Time is on your side. You 324 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 2: got nothing but time. No, ladies, you don't have time. 325 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 2: Our time to choose a good partner is very limited. 326 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 2: It only gets more difficult. Men don't have the same problem. 327 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 2: So don't fall prey to that trap that you need 328 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 2: to go out there and have all your adventure first 329 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,239 Speaker 2: and then settle down. You find a person to have 330 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 2: your adventure with, and if that person is not on 331 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 2: the same page as you, move on. Be brave, take 332 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 2: the hit, eat ice cream for a few weeks and. 333 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 3: Be sad like gut up. 334 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 2: So what you what, somebody, all ladies are settling for 335 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 2: out there? You're making men worse. You're making men worse 336 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 2: by settling for so much. A man knows when he 337 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 2: wants to propose to you. A man knows when he knows. 338 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,719 Speaker 2: That's why you waited around for the ring for five years, 339 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 2: and the second you broke off with him, he went 340 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,360 Speaker 2: and got a girl pregnant and married her, and now 341 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 2: he has a family. That's why someone out there must 342 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 2: have needed to hear this today. Because there's no reason 343 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 2: for me to be talking like this on the radio. 344 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 3: I think someone else. 345 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 2: I think someone out there just needed to hear it. 346 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 2: And I don't think we older women say it enough. 347 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 2: We don't say it enough. 348 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 3: I don't think. 349 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 2: We're so worried about hurting people's feelings. But I think 350 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 2: some young women need to. I tell my daughter that 351 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 2: she's seventeen, I tell her all the time. If you 352 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 2: meet someone at college that you think is an appropriate 353 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 2: partner for you, and. 354 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 3: He's a good man, you know it's got to have 355 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 3: some standards. 356 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 2: Don't do yourself the disservice of walking away from that 357 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 2: because you're in college and you want to be free and. 358 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 3: Lock that down. You know, college is where a lot 359 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 3: of people find spouses. 360 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,360 Speaker 2: I would love for my daughter to find a good 361 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 2: man at college. 362 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, I think that's the number 363 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 3: one reason she should go to college. Be honest. She 364 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 3: wants to be a mom. 365 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 2: She wants a family someday, so you know, go to 366 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 2: where the future partners are, you know what I mean. 367 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 2: Get an education while you're doing it. Maybe that'll turn 368 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 2: into something fun. But really, if you want a family, 369 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 2: go to college. Ladies, go to college with the intention 370 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:19,719 Speaker 2: of finding a husband, and the intentional about it. 371 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 3: You'll be creepy about it. 372 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 2: Just just have a just have a strength, just have 373 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 2: an intention, all right, Want more break and we'll be back. 374 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 3: Not want more but another break. 375 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody. We are rolling into the weekend. I 376 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 2: hope you have big plans for the UH for the weekend. 377 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 2: I don't really have any plans. Well, as I was 378 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 2: just looking at my schedule tomorrow. I actually will be 379 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 2: on American Agenda tomorrow on news Back at two fifty Eastern. 380 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 2: Tune into the American Agenda on Newsmax and I think 381 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be talking about uh, Sydney Sweeney Probably We're 382 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 2: still We're still. 383 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 3: In Sydney Sweeneyland. Not a bad place to be. 384 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 2: She's a very attractive girl, so not a terrible conversation 385 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 2: to be having. But it just it's really stunning me 386 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 2: how long this is hanging on. But again, I just 387 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 2: I think it's a symptom of what we've what we're 388 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 2: decompressing from. 389 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 3: From the last four years. 390 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 2: I think this is just like America letting out its 391 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 2: collective breath. In fact, I wrote an article about that, 392 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 2: letting out our collective breath. It's at my It's at 393 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 2: my website, and that that's how it feels. 394 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 3: That's how July fourth felt to me. 395 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 2: This July fourth felt really celebratory in way in a 396 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 2: way that it hasn't for the last few years. 397 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 3: And I felt that when I was out and. 398 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 2: About, I decided that whole week to wear Americana and 399 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 2: I put a. 400 00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 3: I put a hundred flags in my. 401 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 2: Yard, which I don't think the HOA was super happy about, 402 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 2: but it was just for the holiday week of one 403 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 2: hundred flags in my front yard. But other people when 404 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 2: I went places in my America gear. People were excited 405 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 2: to see me that, Oh I love it. You know. 406 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 2: I think there were some people who were still in 407 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 2: the mode of we have to be quiet about our patriotism, 408 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 2: and then they and then seeing me out there just 409 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 2: gave them permission to be like, no, right, we can 410 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 2: celebrate again. Right, we can celebrate America again. 411 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 3: Yeah. 412 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 2: So I've definitely been noticing this snap back to patriotism, 413 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 2: which I think shows you again that none of this 414 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 2: was organic, that this was all manufactured. Look that PBS 415 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 2: story that I read to earlier on this hour, PBS 416 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 2: is pulling. They're closing, They're closing the doors. They can't 417 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 2: make a model work any other way than stealing your 418 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 2: money to employ them. 419 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 3: They don't have a product you want to buy. They 420 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 3: don't have a product you want to watch. 421 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 2: They don't have a product they can sell to anyone, 422 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 2: or they don't have a product that has any relevance 423 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 2: in any area of society. Rather than go and figure 424 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 2: out how to make it profitable, or figure out maybe 425 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 2: move to streaming, maybe tear down, they just quit, right, 426 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 2: they just they just quit. I think I was going 427 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 2: somewhere with that point, but I lost my train. 428 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 3: Of thought, like I'm. 429 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 2: Fifty one now, but let me read to you this 430 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 2: tweet from the struggle is real, y'all. 431 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 3: The struggle is so very real. 432 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 2: I don't know how women in broadcasting do it, actually, 433 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 2: because menopause thing is real. 434 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 3: That brain fog. 435 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 2: It reminds me of when I was pregnant and a 436 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 2: lot of people say, oh, you got mommy brain. 437 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 3: I was like, what's mommy brain? 438 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 2: Just there's so much extra energy and important stuff going 439 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 2: to the baby that you just lose your mind. 440 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 3: You can't remember things. 441 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 2: You get confused easily, you feel like your thoughts are muddled. 442 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 2: That's how I feel in menopause, except I'm not going 443 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 2: to get at the great reward of a baby. 444 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 3: At the end. Thanks God. 445 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 2: From Donald Trump on to Social Today. Talked about the 446 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 2: job reports number. We were talking about the job reports. 447 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 2: I mentioned it earlier. I said, look, the numbers are bad. 448 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 2: They looked terrible. They were revised sharply from like one 449 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 2: hundred and thirty nine thousand plus to nineteen thousand. 450 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 3: That's a huge reduction. 451 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 2: And in my mind, I didn't make a big deal 452 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 2: of it for a number of reasons. One, I think 453 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 2: that you know, the deep state is still controlling a 454 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 2: lot of the numbers, and so we can't really depend 455 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 2: on government statistics right now. That's not going to change 456 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 2: for a while. It's going to take a long time 457 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 2: to root out the rot. Then the other thing was that, 458 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 2: you know, I wasn't sure how the you know, the 459 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 2: federal workforce firings had affected that number, or the ice raids. 460 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 3: I wasn't sure about that, So you never know about that. 461 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 2: And then the other thing is like, I know there 462 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 2: are a lot of people who feel that someone like 463 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 2: me is a hypocrite because I might complain about Biden 464 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 2: doing certain things that I don't complain about Trump doing 465 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 2: the same things. 466 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 3: But here's the point. This is why it's so important to. 467 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 2: Be an adult and act like an adult and understand 468 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 2: that adults can hold two thoughts in their heads at 469 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 2: the same time, and that life is nuanced. Look, if 470 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 2: President Biden is uh, you know, doing something bad and 471 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 2: everything is bad, then that's bad. If President Trump is 472 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 2: doing something maybe that we don't life or that I 473 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 2: don't agree with, but the country is doing well, then 474 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 2: that's not bad. 475 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 3: That's just disagreement. Do you know what I mean? Am 476 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 3: I making sense? 477 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 2: Here. But if look, I've Christy no great example. People 478 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 2: get on her about her looks all the time she has. 479 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 2: She's a perfect example of what happens to a woman, 480 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 2: and it happens to all of us, most of us, 481 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 2: what happens to a woman when you get in. 482 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 3: The public eye. You do get a lot of comments 483 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 3: on your looks. 484 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,479 Speaker 2: And even the strongest woman cannot like you're not immune 485 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 2: to that. Even the strongest, most confident woman, you're not 486 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 2: immune to its wife. A lot of your favorite women 487 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 2: out there get all that work done. It's just the 488 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 2: struggle is real. I try not to be too judgmental 489 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,479 Speaker 2: about it because I live in you know, the in 490 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 2: Hollywood land too, and you just see it. 491 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 3: It's tough. 492 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 2: It's really hard, even just being a little old podcaster 493 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 2: like me. I'm not famous or anything, but even me, 494 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 2: the weight fluctuations that had over the years, and being 495 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 2: a mom and being I was a drunk for a 496 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 2: little while. 497 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 3: And you know all that stuff, people comment on it. 498 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 3: It does. It gets to you. Now. 499 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 2: Some of us can just move on from it, but 500 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 2: some people like Christy No, take it to heart, and 501 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 2: then you know she's got the extension. 502 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,360 Speaker 3: She's got the fillers, she got it. It's getting crazy. 503 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 2: She's got the outfits and the makeup and she's posing 504 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,959 Speaker 2: in full glam in front of jail cells. 505 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 3: And all right, I get the criticism. Here's my point. 506 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 2: If Christy Nolme is out there looking like a weird 507 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 2: old Barbie doll and doing her job, I'm fine with it. 508 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:17,439 Speaker 3: It's fine. It's not how I would conduct things. But 509 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 3: is she doing her job? 510 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 2: Fine When Kambala Harris is out there cackling and showing 511 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 2: up on late night shows as the vice president of 512 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 2: the United States where while our border is wide open 513 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 2: and people are literally dying at the hands of criminal 514 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 2: illegal immigrants, then but then that's bad. No, she shouldn't 515 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 2: be out there laughing and joking it up because that's bad. 516 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 2: Bad things are happening. Yeah, she could do that if 517 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 2: good things are happening, if she's doing her job beating 518 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 2: the dead cord. Here's what Trump said. I was just 519 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 2: informed that our county's job numbers, our country's job numbers 520 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 2: are being produced by a Biden appoint e named doctor 521 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 2: Erica Mcannerfer. I have never it's a mix and I've 522 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 2: never seen this name mcannifor mce and tar Fer. We 523 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 2: can't offer anyways. See I already hate her because I 524 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 2: already hate her name. The Commissioner of Labor Statistics who 525 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 2: faked the job numbers before the election to try and 526 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 2: boost camel A's chances of victory. This is the same 527 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 2: Bureau of Labor Statistics that overstated the job's growth in 528 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 2: March twenty twenty four by approximately eight hundred and eighteen thousand, 529 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 2: and then again right before the twenty twenty four presidential 530 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 2: election in August and September by one hundred and twelve thousand. 531 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 2: These were records. No one can be that wrong. We 532 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 2: need accurate jobs numbers. I have directed my team to 533 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 2: fire this Biden political appointee immediately. She will be replaced 534 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 2: with someone who is more competent and qualified. Important numbers 535 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 2: like this must be fair and accurate, and they can't 536 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,439 Speaker 2: be manipulated for political purposes. The CANTI first said there 537 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 2: were only seventy three thousand jobs added a show, but 538 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 2: more importantly than a major mistake was made by them 539 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty eight thousand jobs downward in the 540 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 2: prior two months. Similar things happened in the first part 541 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 2: of the year always to the negative. The economy is 542 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 2: booming under Trump, despite a FED that also plays games 543 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,679 Speaker 2: this time of interest rate where they lowered them twice 544 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 2: and substantially just before the presidential election, I assume in 545 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 2: the hopes of getting Kamela elected. 546 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 3: How did that work out? Jerome too late? Powell should 547 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 3: also be put out pasture. Thank you for your attention 548 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 3: to this matter. I love this president. This is the 549 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 3: berest president of my life. 550 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, but this is a problem, right, and again there's 551 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 2: the professional contrarians out there on our side of the fence, 552 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 2: and of course all the liberals out there going, oh, 553 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 2: this is bad, this is lying. See, this is bad 554 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 2: news for Trump, and he's trying to massage the numbers 555 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 2: and he looks like a pool. 556 00:28:58,240 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 3: No, he's telling the truth. 557 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 2: What you've seen, what we have uncovered in the last 558 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 2: eight months. How can you say that Trump is just 559 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 2: being a blow hard for actually suggesting that the job 560 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 2: numbers are manipulated because Biden employees are still working. 561 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 3: Why is that crazy? 562 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 2: What? What about what we've gone through over the last 563 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 2: five years makes you. 564 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 3: Think that that would be a crazy thing to say. 565 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 2: Trump's been right about everything y'all everythang. Okay, let's look, 566 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 2: let me, let me get back down into my lower 567 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 2: registers so I don't brush your ears with my rage. 568 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 2: Let's take one more break and we'll come back to 569 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 2: close out the show. I'm Kia Davis filling it for 570 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 2: Tony Kats and this is Tony Kats Today. 571 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 3: Welcome back everybody to Tony Kats Today. I'm Kia Davis. 572 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 3: Has been great to say with. 573 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 2: You for a couple of days this week and keep 574 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 2: the chair warm while Tony is away. 575 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 3: But he'll be back next week. 576 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 2: Just a little, a little bit more in these jobs numbers, 577 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 2: I was just looking on X and you know, seeing a. 578 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 3: People, a few people here and there say well. 579 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 2: It's normal or this is very normal for the jobs 580 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 2: numbers to get revised down. They're always revised down. They're 581 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 2: always revised down. Now, I want to just hould that 582 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 2: statement into what we've been talking about this whole show. 583 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 3: We need to stop pretending that this stuff is normal. 584 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 2: I suppose it is normal. Technically, right goes on all 585 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 2: the time. Therefore it is normal. We need we need 586 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 2: to stop accepting it as normal. We need to be 587 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 2: like those gis in Athens, Tennessee in nineteen forty six, 588 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 2: who dynamited the jail to get liberty, right to get justice, 589 00:30:55,600 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 2: dynamited the sheriff. And that might sound owned ridiculous, might 590 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 2: sound violent, but what was happening to the people was violent, 591 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:04,479 Speaker 2: you know. 592 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 3: And that is exactly the power they're supposed to have. 593 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 2: That Athens, the Battle of Athens is exactly why we 594 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 2: have a Second Amendment. I swear that story needs to 595 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 2: be told far and wide. We needs to be written 596 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 2: on the heart of every American. Of course, our government 597 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 2: doesn't want us to amplify that story. If we were 598 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 2: all raised with that attitude, how much more could we 599 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 2: get done. 600 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 3: So it doesn't have to be like this. 601 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 2: We shouldn't accept that the that the CVB Office or 602 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 2: whatever what do they call that, the budget Office just 603 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 2: is always revising the numbers, always giving us wrong numbers. 604 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 2: Why do they have to put out bad numbers at all? 605 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 2: Why don't they just wait until they get the quote 606 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 2: revised reports and then publish that, you know what I mean? 607 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 2: So Trump's absolutely right to fire this person. Let's not 608 00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 2: pretend like we have to live like this. We don't 609 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 2: have to live like this. 610 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 3: We don't. Chicago, you don't have to live like that. 611 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 2: La. 612 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 3: You don't have to live like that San Francisco, Indianapolis. 613 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 3: I've seen what's happening in your city. You don't have 614 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 3: to live like that. You don't. We don't. But it's 615 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 3: not easy. We're not gonna walk into victories. 616 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 2: It's all gonna come at great expense and great cost. 617 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 2: But just like those gis in nineteen forty six in Athens, 618 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 2: they said we'll pay the cost, We'll do it. They 619 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 2: were risking their lives. It's a miracle that I'm read 620 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 2: of any death. That's the American spirit. 621 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 3: That's we are. Not the kind of people like well, 622 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 3: they always revise the job members. Now why ask why 623 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 3: instead of just accepting it. I'm done just accepting things. 624 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 2: I have been accepting though the fact that my family 625 00:32:55,520 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 2: is we've got a split in our family. I'm married 626 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 2: into a family of concert people. My husband loves going 627 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,479 Speaker 2: to concert and some music festivals, and now both our 628 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 2: grown children do. It's seventeen to twenty three. They're all 629 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 2: at Lollapalooza in Chicago this weekend. 630 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 3: No I am not there. I'm here. 631 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 2: I stayed behind in California, and obviously I wanted to 632 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 2: do radio, and I would much rather be doing radio 633 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 2: than standing in Grant Park with a million. 634 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 3: People squeezed in shoulder to shoulder. 635 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 2: It's probably nothing, but it's just a giant weed cloud 636 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 2: at this point. 637 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 3: Loud music. I don't like live music. I don't like crowds. 638 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 2: I don't like having to push my way up and 639 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 2: then not being able to leave because if you leave, 640 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 2: you're not getting that spot back. 641 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 3: But I'm fifty one. I need to go to the bathroom, 642 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 3: and then I gotta go to the bathroom. Where do 643 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 3: I go? 644 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 2: Those coorta potties The rest of the unwashed masses are 645 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 2: doing their business. They got to pay twenty dollars for 646 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 2: water and it's one hundred degrees with one hundred percent humidity. 647 00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 3: No thank you. 648 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 2: I was a mudgeon. I will die a cur mudgeon. 649 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 2: Do not take me to a music festival. But my husband, 650 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 2: who is a planner, raised two children who would become 651 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 2: his concert buddies because I just I can't do it. 652 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 2: I can't do it. I don't like crowds, periods. I'm 653 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 2: not into it. Not that person's gonna go wait in line. 654 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 2: I don't think lines are fun. Europeans love lines, which 655 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 2: I think is a sign of socialism. So Europeans like 656 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 2: Q culture. That's a culture, you do stuff, you meet people. 657 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:32,359 Speaker 3: I don't know. 658 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 2: Maybe there's some value into getting back into the idea 659 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 2: of waiting and be patient because we've been so corrupted 660 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 2: by instant gratifications. 661 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm not there. I'm not there. I 662 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:51,240 Speaker 3: don't I do not choose to wait in line for anything. 663 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 2: When my kids were young and I had to go 664 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 2: pick them up at elementary school every day, I was 665 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 2: late every day, and they did. 666 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 3: They just knew they were getting picked. 667 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,439 Speaker 2: Up a half hour after everybody else because I wasn't 668 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 2: waiting in that line. 669 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 3: I want to pull right up, get in the car, 670 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 3: and get to going. 671 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 2: No concert for me, but stay safe out there. If 672 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 2: you're at La La Pluz this weekend, find me on 673 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 2: AX at Real Kira Davis. Go sign up for my substack, 674 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 2: Go find my YouTube, Go find my podcast, go find 675 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:19,800 Speaker 2: all the things. 676 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 3: Tony will be back with you next week. Thanks for 677 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 3: hanging out. I've had a blast. See you next time. 678 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 3: This has been Tony Katy