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Speaker 1: he is the head coach of the Indiana Pacers, joining

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Speaker 1: US coach Carlisle. Good morning to you. How are you?

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Speaker 2: Say? Well, how are you?

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Speaker 1: We are wonderful. Thank you again for the time this

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Speaker 1: season obviously a ton to get to. Let's start with

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Speaker 1: the news item for those that maybe went to bed

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Speaker 1: I brought it up earlier, coach. You know, to me,

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Speaker 1: I look back on the playoffs last year and you know,

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Speaker 1: his put back dunk against Cleveland just spearhead that comeback. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: the flurry of threes he hit in MSG to kind

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Speaker 1: such a valuable cog to what you guys are all about.

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Speaker 1: What has he meant to you? And how have you

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Speaker 1: seen him grow in your time with him here?

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Speaker 2: Well, it's been great to see and be a part of.

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Speaker 3: I think the bottom line is he's he's a proven

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Speaker 3: starter for us, and you know, the opportunity to extend

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Speaker 3: he's under contract for four years, including this year.

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Speaker 2: That we're headed into. So it's great news for the organization. Certainly.

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Speaker 2: I think he's he's very happy about it, and there's

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Speaker 3: You know, here's a kid that barely got in the

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Speaker 4: Do you think the success that Aarony Smith has had

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Speaker 4: he didn't, you know, perhaps have the opportunity he wanted

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Speaker 3: Well, I think the organization looked at his situation and

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Speaker 3: it just made too much sense to.

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Speaker 2: Uh to figure out a way to get this thing done.

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Speaker 3: And yes, I do think that this was one of

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Speaker 3: in terms of the conversation of you know, free agency.

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Speaker 2: And things like that, and so.

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Speaker 2: And obviously everyone's very happy.

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Speaker 1: Pager's back to practice today again. Thursday night, they will

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Speaker 1: open up the season with the thunder Rick Carlisle with

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Speaker 1: us here on the Payless Slickers hotline coaches of now

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Speaker 1: you know, on paper, you know Andrew Nemhard and then

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's gonna be a lot of bi

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Speaker 3: Is so long, it's six months and three weeks. You

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Speaker 2: But but this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, certainly been impressed by him here in the preseason slate.

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