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Speaker 2: That's true when somebody else does all the heavy lifting.

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Speaker 1: And we can now say that thanks to a phenomenal

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Speaker 1: Who were basically calling the shots. They were directing a

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Speaker 1: They have a phenomenal piece. Everybody should totally go read it.

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Speaker 1: How do they get away with this? Because like, if

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Speaker 3: We're discussing their article the Three Kings top I EDS

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you guys should win all the awards for

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Speaker 1: this one. It is phenomenal. And Haley Columbo, Kayla Dwyer,

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Speaker 2: It is Kendilly Casey on ninety three WIVC.

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Speaker 1: All right, so there's a new poll out about Trump.

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Speaker 3: Well, it is a Gallup poll. It's actually about the

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Speaker 1: Sure, And the other message that American government is sending

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Speaker 3: So some of his second term strengths are border security,

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Speaker 1: Don't you think it's a thing too where everything then

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Speaker 2: But the country is hotter than ever.

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Speaker 1: Robin, Oh, it's hot, hot fire, Casey.

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Speaker 6: See doesn't make me a bad American that I don't

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Speaker 3: The White House, White House Office of Management and Budget,

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Speaker 1: Well, so, this is what's very interesting is the Democrats

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Speaker 1: care they we're talking about actually paying for the government

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Speaker 1: that they use. And then the Democrats are like, hey,

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Speaker 1: I don't think thirty seven and a half trills enough.

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Speaker 2: Let's add some more.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what don't we stick on some more with another

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Speaker 1: unaccountable government program. Okay, by the way, the debt per citizen,

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Speaker 1: this is staggering. I guess what the debt per citizen is?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 1: How much does every citizen in our country?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Oh, gosh, five thousand? It's much higher as it is one.

446
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Speaker 1: Hundred and nine thousand. Oh wow, the debt pro tax

447
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Speaker 1: payers three hundred twenty four thousand. Now, I guess the

448
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Speaker 1: nice part of all this is when you pass away,

449
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Speaker 1: your debt gets wiped clean. That's somebody to somebody else.

450
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Speaker 1: If you, by the way, if you've never been to

451
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Speaker 1: the usdebtclock dot org is a fascinating website. It calculates

452
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Speaker 1: all these things in real time.

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Speaker 2: Scary watch it just tick up.

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Speaker 1: You want to go? Okay? The US federal tax revenue

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Speaker 1: comes out to sixteen thousand and one hundred and two

456
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Speaker 1: dollars per citizen. Every citizen contributes on average. Obviously that's

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Speaker 1: not every citizen, but on average sixteen one hundred and

458
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Speaker 1: two dollars. And the federal garments like, yeah, that didn't

459
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Speaker 1: work for us. Yeah, it's not enough.

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Speaker 2: It's not enough.

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Speaker 3: We need more, We need more shiny objects. Stop spending

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Speaker 3: our money on every level. So the programs that will

463
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Speaker 3: continue regardless of a shutdown include Social Security, Medicare, veterans benefits,

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Speaker 3: military operations, law enforcement, ICE, CBP, and air traffic control.

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Speaker 2: So go ahead, go on that trip. Okay, flyaway.

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Speaker 1: By the way, when you factor in unfunded debt, like

467
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Speaker 1: the liabilities, the obligations that we owe we will owe on,

468
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Speaker 1: they don't count it as a part of the official

469
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Speaker 1: US national decks. It hasn't been incurred yet. But when

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Speaker 1: you factor in, so this.

471
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Speaker 2: Is like what future debt.

472
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Speaker 1: Yeah, like what we know we're going to owe Okay, right,

473
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Speaker 1: one hundred and four trillion, five hundred and ninety nine

474
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Speaker 1: billion dollars. Well, sure, and they're fighting over we don't

475
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Speaker 1: have enough government.

476
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Speaker 3: When you see videos of like Chuck Schumer when he's

477
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Speaker 3: behind a podium and he's on the hill and he's talking.

478
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Speaker 2: About we need to fund healthcare.

479
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Speaker 3: For illegals, I mean you just want to, uh, just

480
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Speaker 3: look at him on the TV screen and just uugh,

481
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Speaker 3: it's just I can't just stop enough already.

482
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Speaker 1: By the way, this is a fascinating stat and again,

483
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Speaker 1: this US debt clock is if everyone should book mark

484
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Speaker 1: and just check it every so often. They have some

485
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Speaker 1: other things that they factor into this, the border encounters

486
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Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four one million, seven hundred and sixty

487
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Speaker 1: nine nine and fifteen border encounters in twenty twenty five

488
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Speaker 1: seventy thousand, seven and eighty. Like, the people aren't even

489
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Speaker 1: calming because they're like, there's no point. And so you

490
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Speaker 1: want to talk about the damage, deliberate damage that Biden

491
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Speaker 1: did to this country. All of these people came because

492
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Speaker 1: they knew it was some do drop in, do walk

493
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Speaker 1: in operation over there, and once all it took was

494
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Speaker 1: Trump becoming president, and it was I mean, it's a

495
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Speaker 1: it's a fraction, right, It's like, well, it's like one

496
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Speaker 1: twentieth of the border encounters.

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Speaker 2: I like how they've got the Doge clock on there.

498
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Speaker 3: Savings per taxpayer five seven hundred and fifty eight dollars.

499
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Speaker 2: Really didn't they stop doing that? Where'd that go?

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Speaker 3: Yes, both both federally and within the state of Indiana.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember Broun was going to do that. Remember

502
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Speaker 1: he was gonna he was gonna.

503
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Speaker 3: You wrote him a note I did very naid you

504
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Speaker 3: know he was gonna hang it in his office.

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Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, I think he did that. No, I think

506
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Speaker 1: he probably wiped his ass with it. Casey, Yeah. I

507
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Speaker 1: For some reason people brought that up the other day.

508
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Speaker 1: They were like, remember when Braun was talking about letting

509
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Speaker 1: you run Indiana Doge, I don't think that was ever

510
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Speaker 1: actually in consideration, well, I.

511
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Speaker 3: Think that it kind of goes to the story that

512
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Speaker 3: we started this morning with the article in Indie Star

513
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Speaker 3: about the top ie DC officials and receiving all.

514
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Speaker 2: Of that money under eighty million dollars in contracts.

515
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Speaker 1: Sure, you can't give it away if you don't take

516
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Speaker 1: it from people to begin with, right, Hammer's gonna join

517
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Speaker 1: us Next.

518
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Speaker 2: It's Kennilly Casey on ninety three WIBC.

519
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Speaker 1: I gotta say, I was listening to your show the

520
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Speaker 1: other day and what was the game you were playing?

521
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Speaker 1: Member of Hard or Famous for a Fart? Yes, and

522
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Speaker 1: I'd like it turned it on. It was in the

523
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Speaker 1: car going to pick Livy up and you said, we're

524
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Speaker 1: still trying to give away the tickets because some guy's

525
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Speaker 1: phone had dropped or whatever. When he first said, we're

526
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Speaker 1: trying to give away the tickets. I'm like, some guy lost,

527
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Speaker 1: famous member of hard or famous for a part like

528
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Speaker 1: that was my I was like, no, there's no way

529
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Speaker 1: some guy lost that game.

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Speaker 7: We try to make these contests as easy as we can,

531
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Speaker 7: but fun. Yeah, right now, there have been people who

532
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Speaker 7: have lost, like we've done sing along with Hammer in

533
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Speaker 7: the past, and somebody missed, like all these popular songs

534
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Speaker 7: had no idea of any lyrics, like don't Stop Believing

535
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 7: and like you know, all these famous songs, heavy Birthday, Velvet,

536
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Speaker 7: Joe Biden's calling number nine right now, I think twice

537
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Speaker 7: somebody is not one. But this afternoon we're playing don't

538
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Speaker 7: Forget the lyrics with Alison. And the way this works

539
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Speaker 7: is that when we solicit for calling number nine, their

540
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Speaker 7: fate isn't producer Alison's hands. No, I'm going to play

541
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Speaker 7: a heart song. I'm going to stop it at some point,

542
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Speaker 7: oh no, and she has to get the next line.

543
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 7: If she gets it right, the caller gets the tickets.

544
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Speaker 7: So much pressure for someone as someone else.

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Speaker 1: She delivered yesterday. I heard that, Yeah, yeah, I heard that.

546
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Speaker 1: But that's a lot of pressure.

547
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Speaker 7: And yesterday we had her don't forget the lyrics of

548
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Speaker 7: All I Want to Do is make Love to you

549
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Speaker 7: big hit by Heart. YouTube patron pointed this out to us.

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Speaker 1: What a screwed song that is if you.

551
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Speaker 7: Really think about the meaning of that song, it's about

552
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Speaker 7: let's just say it's Ann Wilson who sings it right

553
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Speaker 7: her character. She's not getting it from her man at home.

554
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Speaker 7: Maybe there's an impotacy issue, maybe he's shooting blanks. I

555
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 7: don't know, but she's not getting loving at home. So

556
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Speaker 7: she goes on a drive, finds a hitchhiker, takes him

557
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Speaker 7: to a hotel, raw dogs him, gets knocked up, comes

558
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Speaker 7: back and says, oh, by the way, don't find me anywhere.

559
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Speaker 7: You're not allowed to look for me. Bad being bada boom,

560
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Speaker 7: thanks for the sex. Goes back to her husband. Years later,

561
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Speaker 7: she does everything that she said not to do, finds

562
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Speaker 7: the guy, the hitchhiker guy working at a bank or something,

563
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Speaker 7: and brings in the sun that they created and said, oh,

564
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Speaker 7: by the way, I'm in love with another man. But

565
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Speaker 7: here's your kid, here's the kid.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

567
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Speaker 7: What a screwed up song. Yeah, dog in Butterfly, I

568
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Speaker 7: didn't ask him his name lovely boy in the rain.

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Speaker 1: It was it was great for him, right, but like,

570
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Speaker 1: who just raw?

571
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Speaker 7: Dog's a hitchhiker, Like in addition to that being just

572
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Speaker 7: completely dangerous, right, Like, how do you know this dude

573
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Speaker 7: doesn't have every std under the sun?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd be more afraid from my safety than anything, right.

575
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Speaker 7: Right, And she left a note where I'm assuming she

576
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Speaker 7: was the one that rented the hotel because if he's hitchy,

577
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Speaker 7: does have a credit card or a transportation so she

578
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Speaker 7: probably rents this hotel.

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Speaker 1: Her name is on it.

580
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Speaker 7: She sneaks out first, what if he damages the room

581
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Speaker 7: and then she has to pay for all the damages

582
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Speaker 7: at it?

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Speaker 1: That's where your mind goes, what if this guy is

584
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Speaker 1: smoking in the hotel room? Correct?

585
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Speaker 2: Ok, it's a Hilton garden in they're staying in.

586
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 7: Oh no, no, but still a motel. She left a

587
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 7: very classic, you know, you know, very nice, had some

588
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Speaker 7: poetry on there and uh.

589
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Speaker 1: But she left him there. Well, now that you've thoroughly

590
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: ruined everyone's day with that Debbie down segment, make we

591
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: got a podcast coming out this epit we.

592
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Speaker 7: Do NFL Audition drops at around one o'clock today. I

593
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 7: will have action on tonight's exciting Thursday game Snoozefest between

594
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Speaker 7: Seattle and Arizona.

595
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Speaker 1: And then you are mister Monday Night. Yeah, boy, howdy,

596
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: that's gonna be great. The Dolphins hosting the Jets.

597
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Speaker 7: The games that we are locked into doing, I'm Thursday's

598
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Speaker 7: Robs Mondays both kind of turds this week. But the

599
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Speaker 7: big game of the week is probably the Ravens at

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Speaker 7: the Chiefs, and we will also pick that and have

601
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Speaker 7: our professionals David Stefanoff and Kenny Britt picked that as well.

602
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: So the Colts are at the Rams.

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Speaker 7: That's a good game.

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Speaker 1: That is a good game, and injuries look.

605
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 7: Like they could be in play here. Cults are a

606
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 7: little banged up, but so are the Rams. The Rams

607
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 7: might be missing their best corner, so keep an eye

608
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Speaker 7: on that over possibly. I asked you this before we

609
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Speaker 7: came back on, like, if you're the Colts, aren't you

610
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Speaker 7: kind of stuck now with the multiple year Daniel Jones

611
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 7: experiment because you're you know, you've won three games already,

612
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Speaker 7: which you're not gonna get the number one pick now probably,

613
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Speaker 7: you know, or even a top two or three.

614
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Speaker 1: You went half your games. That's put you not got left.

615
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Speaker 1: That puts you at nine, which means you're, you know,

616
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Speaker 1: getting to the back half of the first round. You know,

617
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Speaker 1: you're in the late teens. Probably. Yeah, you've essentially told

618
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Speaker 1: Richardson we have zero faith in you. So he's done.

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Speaker 1: So aren't you just now in a multi year Danny

620
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Speaker 1: Dimes experiment at this point for the Colts?

621
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Speaker 7: Yeah? But here's the thing. What if Danny Dimes is

622
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Speaker 7: actually pretty decent. Maybe the Giants organization is the NFL

623
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Speaker 7: version of the New York Knicks, Right, maybe they are

624
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 7: just such a Mickey Mouse ran poor organization that they

625
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Speaker 7: didn't put a line around him, because that was the thing.

626
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Speaker 7: He had a good running back when he was with

627
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Speaker 7: the Giants because he had Saquon Barkley, but he didn't

628
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Speaker 7: have a line. Colts line pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. The problem now, though, is you got him relatively

630
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Speaker 1: on the cheap this year for one year. Now, if

631
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Speaker 1: he wins nine ten games, you're going to be paying

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Speaker 1: you know, a multi it's gonna be a multi year deal,

633
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Speaker 1: and it ain't gonna be for fourteen million dollars.

634
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Speaker 7: But I guess you give it, you take it the

635
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 7: way you're gonna lose Anthony Richardson's contract off the books,

636
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Speaker 7: even though it's a rookie deal, uh here in the

637
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Speaker 7: next year, because there's no way they're gonna resign that guy.

638
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 7: So that money plus probably a little bit more you

639
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Speaker 7: tip on to add on top, and you give it

640
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Speaker 7: to Danny Dimes. It's probably the best option because you're right,

641
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 7: the Saints or somebody like that are gonna have the

642
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 7: number one pick. And maybe this isn't gonna be as

643
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 7: good of an NFL quarterback draft as we thought because

644
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,760
Speaker 7: Arch Manning doesn't look like he's ready to come.

645
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Speaker 1: To the NFL.

646
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Speaker 7: Some of these other dudes have not been as advertised.

647
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Speaker 7: Caide Club Nick, So you're kind of down to the

648
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Speaker 7: LSU kid, nuss Meyer, maybe South Carolina Sellers. But he's injured,

649
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Speaker 7: he's been a little underwhelming. Maybe it's not as good

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Speaker 7: of a quarterback draft as we thought.

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Speaker 1: Great, three more years between seven and ten and ten

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Speaker 1: and seven.

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Speaker 7: Let me go, Danny Dimes, build a statue, build the

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Speaker 7: at you right now.

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Speaker 1: What are we doing this afternoon?

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Speaker 7: You're going to come on our show and I'm going

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Speaker 7: to make fun of you right to your face.

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Speaker 1: Oh, just so it's a usual Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Thanks sammer It's

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Speaker 3: Kennely Casey on ninety three WYBC Lockerrod Stop