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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Best of the Fan morning show

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Speaker 1: on ninety three five and one oh seven five The Fan.

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Speaker 2: A lot of a.

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Speaker 3: Lot of talk, a lot of activity, a lot of

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Speaker 3: press conference. There's a lot of statements in the wake

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Speaker 3: of the Colts missing the playoffs again, not having a

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Speaker 3: winning record, losing the seventh straight to end the season

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Speaker 3: after a terrific seven and one start, They're going to.

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Speaker 2: Run it back again.

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Speaker 3: We've talked about that at nauseum in the last couple

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Speaker 3: of days. But you know, I'm still getting texts from

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Speaker 3: people that I just know.

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Speaker 2: I'm still getting emails. I know you are too, Kevin.

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Speaker 3: Colts fans are just they're just as a group, generally

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Speaker 3: unhappy right now.

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Speaker 4: By the way, do you have a favorite football weekend?

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Speaker 4: This weekend or next?

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Speaker 2: I like championship weekend. Oh my favorite next weekend is great.

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Speaker 3: But I love I love the fact that I have

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Speaker 3: a doubleheader on a Sunday with everything on the line.

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Speaker 5: Not to do like our family a whole lot.

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Speaker 6: Then do I'm divisional round? Do you get the number

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Speaker 6: one seeds get some upsets? I'm big divisional round?

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Speaker 4: Well, Mark, I asked, because is the college football playoff

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Speaker 4: altered your thinking because hear me out this week it's

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Speaker 4: probably not a weekend. So we'll start tomorrow night. We'll

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Speaker 4: get the festival and again take you out of it

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Speaker 4: from the local angle. So you'll go semifinal Thursday, semi

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Speaker 4: final Friday, two wildcard games on Saturday, three wildcard games

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Speaker 4: on Sunday, and the Monday nighter. I mean that is

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Speaker 4: pray for a snowstorm. Inject that into your life. Now,

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Speaker 4: the next weekend, mark's divisional weekend.

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Speaker 5: What's that?

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Speaker 4: Mark two on Saturday, two on Sunday, and the national

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Speaker 4: championship then would be Monday.

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Speaker 7: Yep, sign me up.

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Speaker 4: That's a lot of football. James boy, you gotta vote here.

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Speaker 4: You like this week, you like next week a little less?

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Speaker 4: Still get them out a little less. Or you with

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Speaker 4: Jeff and you opted for just two NFL games on

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Speaker 4: a Sunday.

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Speaker 8: I'll go with this week mainly because I don't have

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Speaker 8: any responsibilities outside of myself.

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Speaker 7: I don't know that's how it should be.

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Speaker 8: I don't know if there's a many things pulling me

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Speaker 8: in different directions, Kevin. I don't know about if I

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Speaker 8: got to worry about changing a diaper here or something

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Speaker 8: like that. So I'm looking forward to this weekend and really,

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Speaker 8: as you pointed out, this week, because it all starts tomorrow, it.

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Speaker 3: Does start tomorrow, and I'm looking for I'll tay, I'll

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Speaker 3: tell you this year, I'm looking forward to every Indiana

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Speaker 3: football game that comes on, but generally year to year,

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Speaker 3: I just there's something cool about waking up on a

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Speaker 3: Sunday morning and knowing you're going to watch two games

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Speaker 3: and those two teams are gonna be off to the

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: I've always just really enjoyed the gravity of that.

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Speaker 4: Day gravity certainly, but I'm nervous of one of those

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Speaker 4: games a dud, then your own, then that puts all

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Speaker 4: the pressure on the other.

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Speaker 5: So that would be my concern with that, James anything

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Speaker 5: lingering locker room clean out.

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Speaker 4: We talked certainly a lot about Taverius Ward in that

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Speaker 4: a week back with Anthony Richardson, is Philip River is

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Speaker 4: really going to coach in the NFL at some point,

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Speaker 4: I'll leave it pretty open ended for you.

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Speaker 8: I thought that was interesting talking to Philip Rivers. And

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Speaker 8: again this is the guy who said since he'd come back.

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Speaker 8: Oh man, I really loved coaching high school football, coaching

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Speaker 8: my son. And then when we asked him, okay, well

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Speaker 8: do you want to coach in the NFL? Is this

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Speaker 8: something you wouldn't entertain? And he left the door open.

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Speaker 8: He did not say no. He kept saying on the

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Speaker 8: lines of well, I didn't really expect to be here

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Speaker 8: a month ago, so I've learned to just keep the

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Speaker 8: door open to anything and never say no before it's

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Speaker 8: even a possibility. But personally, I think it would be

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Speaker 8: a poor decision for any franchise to make him a

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Speaker 8: what it is about former coach players who want to

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Speaker 8: make that jump. And granted Jeff Saturday's credit, he didn't

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Speaker 7: He was offered the job, so he took it.

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Speaker 8: But I do think regardless of how great of a

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Speaker 8: And maybe maybe we're all drinking a little bit of

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Speaker 8: the kool aid, like all the old guy came out

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Speaker 8: of retirement. Now this is the next step of the movie.

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Speaker 8: But the movie. At least what we saw wasn't all

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Speaker 8: that great in the end. And the sequel of just

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Speaker 8: making him a head coach immediately in this cycle potentially

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Speaker 8: is what NFL Networks Ian rapport was putting out there.

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Speaker 8: That would be insane, and any franchise who did that

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Speaker 8: will be a very unseerious team.

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Speaker 2: I do think go ahead.

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Speaker 4: I was just saying to go over the family tree

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Speaker 4: a little bit here. The oldest son, Gunner, will be

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Speaker 4: a senior down there in high school and is I

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Speaker 4: would say, a relatively highly ranked football recruit.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, he's the top player in that state. He's a

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Speaker 8: top player in Alabama for his class.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think like yeah, I mean, I know I've

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Speaker 4: seen his name mentioned with Notre Dame and you know,

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Speaker 4: some of these other.

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Speaker 5: Schools, and then the I think there's three.

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Speaker 4: Sons, boy, I probably should double check my Rivers family me.

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Speaker 4: That could be a three H one level class there.

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Speaker 4: I believe another son is going to be a freshman

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Speaker 4: and would be the backup quarterback. So you know, if

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Speaker 4: Philip is, you know, all in on this, Hey, I

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Speaker 4: want to coach my sons. I mean theoretically he's coaching

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Speaker 4: one of his sons at quarterback for the next you know,

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Speaker 4: what is it seven years of my well not seven years,

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Speaker 4: but you know, based off Gunner being a sophomore down

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Speaker 4: level that he is right now. I thought it was interesting,

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Speaker 4: you know, I wanted to ask It took a while.

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Speaker 4: I wanted to ask Rivers about Kurt Signetti because I

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Speaker 4: think probably our audience knows this at this point, but

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Speaker 4: if they don't, Kurt Signetti was on the NC State

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Speaker 4: staff when Philip Rivers was in college. Ironically enough, and

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Speaker 4: Rivers is last year there. He was actually the position coach.

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Speaker 4: Signetti was his quarterbacks coach, and you know, Philip and

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Speaker 4: you know, obviously you're asking him to go back what

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Speaker 5: Signetti was like.

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Speaker 4: But he did share that he said he remembers the

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Speaker 4: balance that Signetti brought to the room of enough fire necessary,

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Speaker 4: but also like a really steady presence. And I do

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Speaker 4: think like Signetti has that, Like you watch him on

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Speaker 5: The scows and the memes are hilarious.

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Speaker 4: From the fourth and one decision by killing a boor

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Speaker 4: in the Rose Bowl in Signetti's face.

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Speaker 5: But like he is very process oriented.

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Speaker 4: He is very you know, consistent with his schedule, and

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Speaker 4: I do think that's a big quality market if it.

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Speaker 5: If you don't mind cube of this clip, this is Signetti.

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Speaker 4: I mean this is a while ago, him kind of

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Speaker 4: describing like, yeah, he might be whatever, sixty something year old,

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Speaker 4: but he is not this like we need to be

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Speaker 4: And you talk about the consistency within his coaching staff.

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Speaker 4: I think when you hear this answer, that is a

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Speaker 4: reason why, along with the financial commitment from IU, you

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Speaker 9: I was growing up. I didn't like when people wasted

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Speaker 9: my time, and I don't want to I don't want

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Speaker 9: to waste the player's time, and I don't want to

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Speaker 9: waste the coaches time. And I don't make the coaches

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Speaker 9: stay at night. Maybe that's why guys been with me

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Speaker 9: so long, all right, And we started seven seven thirty

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Speaker 9: in the morning like everybody else, and you stay till

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Speaker 9: your work's done. And I'm not checking to see who's

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Speaker 9: there and who isn't right, But I can tell you

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Speaker 9: one thing. When we're in't a office, it's all business,

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Speaker 9: you know, it is all business. It's organized preparation. And

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Speaker 9: we're on that practice field. Look Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, our

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Speaker 9: thirty five to an hour forty five, Our thirty five

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Speaker 9: to an hour forty five Monday walk through, Friday, shorter walkthrough.

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Speaker 9: I believe in keeping them fresh and healthy, and our

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Speaker 9: players like the way we run the program. We've had

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Speaker 9: a great culture for the last eight to ten years downstairs,

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Speaker 9: you know. And you can't put a value on a

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Speaker 9: great culture.

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Speaker 10: Now.

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Speaker 9: Winning helps, no doubt, but the right kind of people

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Speaker 9: believe in in your process, your blueprint, your plan helps two.

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Speaker 2: Great stuff.

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Speaker 3: And the part in the middle about keeping him fresh

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Speaker 3: and healthy. How much will that play into these last

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Speaker 3: few games at the end of a really long season

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Speaker 3: in which this team is going to play six you know,

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Speaker 3: assuming and I shouldn't assume, but let's say they do

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Speaker 3: win this weekend, James, They're going to be playing sixteen

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Speaker 2: That's vital that you don't wear them out before you

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Speaker 2: get to January.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and to the point of what you're referencing and

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Speaker 8: what Kevin just mentioned the ability to adapt because he's

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Speaker 8: not some young dude and I can similar to when

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Speaker 8: we talked to Rick Carlisle and he tells stories about

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Speaker 8: how things used to be. I mean, he probably comes

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Speaker 8: from the era of two a days in the summer

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Speaker 8: every day and leading up to the season and full

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Speaker 8: pads a few times a week and all of that.

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Speaker 8: But now it's all about efficiency and you're seeing the

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Speaker 8: payoff from that in a big, big way for this program.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 8: He did mention also in that clip winning helps and

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Speaker 8: they've done a whole lot of that and that might

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Speaker 8: be the best remedia of.

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Speaker 5: All seven NFL openings. Correct, yes, sir? How many ownership

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Speaker 5: groups make a call to Bloomington?

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Speaker 3: I think he call and kick the tires, don't you?

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Speaker 3: I bet five or six at least call and say.

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Speaker 2: Hey, any interest? Any chance he'd be interested in trying

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Speaker 7: I'd say two.

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Speaker 5: Do you think you would interview?

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Speaker 7: I think he would how up put this?

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Speaker 8: I think he would tell Scott Dolson put another zero

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Speaker 8: on my page pay check.

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Speaker 5: I feel like there's a lot of zeros and a

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Speaker 11: Commos already on I mean, is he losing any leverage

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Speaker 11: in this every time jokes aside, every time I see

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Speaker 11: either Zach Osterman from the Indie Star or somebody else

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Speaker 11: who's on the beat every day put out those contract updates,

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Speaker 11: I'm fascinated.

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Speaker 8: But how about every single step of the way basically

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Speaker 8: one he makes him revisit his contract and make him

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Speaker 8: even more highly paid. Or two there's some like language

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Speaker 8: in it that forces them to re evaluate him after

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Speaker 8: in achievement, which he continues to I.

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Speaker 5: Was gonna say, achieve more.

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Speaker 4: I assume he's about to get some massive bonus if

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Speaker 4: and when they went on Frida, you know, And I

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Speaker 4: don't know if that's an extension on the contract or

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Speaker 8: Yeah, but the buyout thing never bothers me because he's

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Speaker 8: You're telling the NFL pay them off and I'll leave. Now.

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Speaker 7: There from what I understand.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it is kind of wild in today's climate that

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Speaker 5: At least, you know, is that something that is at play.

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Speaker 3: The top five estimates on the top five NFL highest

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Speaker 8: But again, I would just like to know officially what

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Speaker 4: What Steve Hiller going to join us here in ten

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Speaker 4: What worries you guys about Oregon on Friday Night?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I look at it. At Oregon.

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Speaker 8: He gives me like the no no, no yes vibes

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Speaker 7: He always gets down. If you do that, I'll love you.

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Speaker 4: I think a list you don't get very far in

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Speaker 4: this is on paper, this is about exactly what you'd

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Speaker 4: want in a semi final matchup coming up on Friday.

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Speaker 3: I think the country looks at Indiana a little bit

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Speaker 3: differently after that Alabama game because they were so in

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Speaker 3: control of the football game. They dominated both sides of

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Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage, their position players. Certainly, the running

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Speaker 3: game was way better than Alabama's running game. They were

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Speaker 3: just clearly if you watch that game, you look at

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Speaker 3: that game and you go, yeah, Indiana would win this

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Speaker 3: maybe ten times out of ten, if not nine out

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Speaker 3: of ten. And I think a lot of people saw that, Hey, yeah,

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Speaker 3: the record's great these last years we've heard about Kurt

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Speaker 3: Signetti and Indiana, but if you haven't really watched them,

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Speaker 3: and you watch that game the other night they spanked

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Speaker 3: Alabama like that, that game was not close.

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Speaker 8: How much do you think that's a conversation? Still is

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Speaker 8: Indiana for real?

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Speaker 2: For like not for some people outside this region.

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Speaker 7: I give you have to put like a number on

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Speaker 7: it out of one hundred.

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Speaker 5: I mean, those people are idiots at this point.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they just won at Oregon, Ohio State on

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Speaker 4: neutral field, and I get that.

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Speaker 8: It's not no I'm saying to the point about people

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Speaker 8: being idiots. I think the number is pretty low now

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Speaker 8: because I just don't get.

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Speaker 5: Better be low.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, again, I'm not gonna act like this is

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Speaker 4: normal Alabama, but still beat the brakes off them on

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Speaker 4: a neutral field as well normal Alabama.

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Speaker 8: Now, I mean you look at the landscape of the

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Speaker 8: I get what you're saying, like the history history of Alabama.

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Speaker 5: Twenty twelve Alabama.

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Speaker 8: But yeah, I mean, this is a brave new world

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Speaker 8: we're living in right now. And so I'm just very

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Speaker 8: curious to know anyone out there who probably doesn't think

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Speaker 8: they're the favorite at this point.

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Speaker 4: It's wild to sit here and say it would be

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Speaker 4: a disappointment if Indiana doesn't win at all.

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Speaker 5: And think about this, that's that's right.

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Speaker 13: I don't want to go there, but right, but that

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Speaker 13: feels like like that's how it would And again that

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Speaker 13: is a credit to them, like you earn the right

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Speaker 13: to be in that category with how they play this season,

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Speaker 13: they have earned the right.

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Speaker 4: Look at the Vegas odds mark, look at the national

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Speaker 4: title odds. If you look at it right now, Indiana

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Speaker 4: is relatively close to even money to win it all.

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Speaker 4: And again, something probably has to do with the other

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Speaker 4: side of the bracket as a six and a ten

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Speaker 4: and it's not whatever Georgia Ohio State on the other

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Speaker 4: side of the bracket.

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Speaker 5: But you know, again, indian already beat Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: Strap Lady Kevin.

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Speaker 3: If they end up winning these next two games, they

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Speaker 3: will have had a wreck. Not only will it be

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Speaker 3: sixteen and oh that had been five and oh against

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Speaker 3: anyone they played that participated in the College Football Playoff.

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Speaker 3: Think about that five and oh against teams that played

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Speaker 3: in the playoff.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, and again, how many those games away

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Speaker 5: from home?

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Speaker 2: All of them?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, i U is plus one twenty eight the outright

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Speaker 6: winners of the National Championship Oregon plus three fifteen Miami

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Speaker 6: plus three forty Ole miss plus five point fifty.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and plus one twenty eight with that ten bucks

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Speaker 4: to win twelve pretty much. Yeah, so yeah, that's a

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Speaker 4: big nod.

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Speaker 7: From great investment from from Vegas.

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Speaker 2: All right, coming up at a moment, we'll talk more cult.

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Speaker 3: Steven Older had some interesting things to say and write

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Speaker 3: about all the things that have happened with the Indianapolis

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Speaker 3: Cults over the last forty eight hours. We'll talk to

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Speaker 3: him about those things next as we continue the Fan

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Speaker 3: Morning Show ninety three five one oh seven five.

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Speaker 5: Good morning.

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Speaker 3: I hope you're having a good Wednesday morning, hopping in

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Speaker 3: your call, getting your car, getting ready for the day.

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Speaker 3: We've got you covered here with all the very latest

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Speaker 3: on the Colts and the Pacers who are struggling right now.

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Speaker 2: Give you everything you need to know in about five minutes.

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Speaker 3: Coming up at about fifteen, But right now, we want

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Speaker 3: to check in with one of our favorite guests, Stephen

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Speaker 3: Holder from ESPN dot com. He covers the Indianapolis Colts

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Speaker 3: and he joins us on the Payless Liquors hotline Happy

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Speaker 3: Wednesday Steven, nothing going on in the world of anybody

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Speaker 3: who covers the Colts this week?

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Speaker 2: Correct, what are the Colts?

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Speaker 14: I don't know what you're talking about.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's uh, we're trying to figure out what.

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Speaker 12: The Colts are playing this week, I will say that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, trying to figure out what the Colts are at

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Speaker 3: this point in time, aren't we?

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Speaker 14: Yeah?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean it's a pay little time, but we're

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Speaker 12: trying to figure it out.

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Speaker 14: I mean, I thought this week was.

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Speaker 12: A perfect encapsulation of just, you know, a lot of

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Speaker 12: you of frustration them on the fan base. So I

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Speaker 12: get it, and I think I do think the airs

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Speaker 12: a family is probably not surprised by it, but I

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Speaker 12: don't know that there's a perfect way to deal with it, right.

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Speaker 12: So that's kind of where we are.

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Speaker 8: So, Stephen, we talked to you last week on these airwaves.

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Speaker 8: You are pretty confident that no changes were going to

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Speaker 8: be made. Now why were you that confident back then

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Speaker 8: before it had officially been announced.

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Speaker 12: Well, because all the conversations I had had indicated to

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Speaker 12: me that the that the the I guess inside the

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Speaker 12: building that they were talking about next year, and they

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Speaker 12: were on to next year at.

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Speaker 14: That point and you don't.

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Speaker 12: You don't have the you don't have the comfort level

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Speaker 12: to have those kinds of conversations unless there's a comfort

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Speaker 12: level with your.

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Speaker 14: Job, you know. And and it just seemed very clear

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Speaker 14: to me. The other thing is that.

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Speaker 12: I think in reality, look, obviously, rebooting right now would

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Speaker 12: have been an easy thing to do in terms of

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Speaker 12: making fans happy, but I do think it was much

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Speaker 12: more complex than people may be realized. It is risky

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Speaker 12: to go forward and move forward with Chris Ballard and

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Speaker 12: Daniel Jones coming off in Achilles and the track record

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Speaker 12: of Chris and all that, that has its own risk,

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Speaker 12: But I also think rebooting now was complex, and I

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Speaker 12: don't know if they were ready to go there. To

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Speaker 12: be completely honest, I think next year, if it fails,

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Speaker 12: I think it's an easier reboot next year.

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Speaker 14: But you know, we'll see.

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Speaker 4: Steven attempting to clear up, you know, a couple of

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Speaker 4: maybe gray area comments and if you could maybe throw

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Speaker 4: out what you think the black and white if it

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Speaker 4: means let's start with the higher sense of urgency than

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Speaker 4: last year, that gray area means what to you black

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Speaker 4: and white wise?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I think, well, first of all, I wish we

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Speaker 12: did have to interpret as much. But I also understand

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Speaker 12: why Carly would never come out and say if we

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Speaker 12: don't do X, there fire, that's I would never do

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Speaker 12: that as an owner. Okay, I will defend her on that,

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Speaker 12: but you have to be you have to communicate it better.

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Speaker 12: I would say to your question, I think it's pretty clear. Actually,

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Speaker 12: I think they got to do something big. I don't

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Speaker 12: think it can just be nine and eight get a wildcard.

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Speaker 12: I mean they have to be I think they have

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Speaker 12: to be a team that's doing something. It'd be going somewhere,

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Speaker 12: all right. If you're saying we think we're onto something,

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Speaker 12: we think we were one of the best teams in

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Speaker 12: the NFL. We traded for Sauce Gardner because we thought

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Speaker 12: we could be in contention with the super Bowl. Well,

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Speaker 12: then that tells me that's the conversation we need.

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Speaker 14: To be having.

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Speaker 12: I'm not saying they have to win the super Bowl

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Speaker 12: or go to the super Bowl, but I mean I

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Speaker 12: think it has to be something very tangible that they

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Speaker 12: can say this is real progress. Making a wildcard is

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Speaker 12: not necessarily a real progress because you can do that

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Speaker 12: in the same sort of rough neighborhood of record that

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Speaker 12: they've been in the last couple of years, right, So

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Speaker 12: I mean nine to eight can get you in the playoffs.

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Speaker 14: But does nine and eight.

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Speaker 12: Mean you're going somewhere as a franchise. No, it does not,

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Speaker 12: so at least for me, that's what I think it means.

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Speaker 12: I think you have to be showing that we are

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Speaker 12: going somewhere and it's sustainable. That's the other thing. It

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Speaker 12: has to be sustainable. If it's a one year who

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Speaker 12: the hell cares, right, it has to be sustainable, okay.

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Speaker 4: And the other answer that I think it was a

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Speaker 4: little bit of a gray area. And again I understand why,

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Speaker 4: but you know, the old tied at the hip? Are

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Speaker 4: they tied at the hip? One was hired in twenty

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Speaker 4: seventeen and Chris Boward Shane Sacken was hired in twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty three.

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Speaker 5: Carly's answer to that was, you know, I guess we'll

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Speaker 5: find out next year. On this day.

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Speaker 4: Part of me when you said that was like, Donna,

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Speaker 4: da dah, do you think like there could be a

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Speaker 4: chance we get to next year? Black Monday And all

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Speaker 4: of a sudden she views one of them differently than

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Speaker 4: the other, and we get a moving forward of the

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Speaker 4: franchise of one is here and the other is not.

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Speaker 12: I mean, I think that answer isn't admission that she

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Speaker 12: doesn't know, and I think that's okay. But I think

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Speaker 12: the takeaway from it is that we could see a

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Speaker 12: situation like that.

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Speaker 14: We could I think she left the door open.

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Speaker 12: I think we have to at least say that much

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Speaker 12: and then we'll see what happens next year. But that

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Speaker 12: was my interpretation of it is it's very possible.

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Speaker 3: Frankly Steven Older joining us on the payloss lickers hot line.

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Speaker 3: How does Chris Ballard go about improving this roster in

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Speaker 3: the offseason, a bunch of unrestricted free agents, no first

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Speaker 3: round draft pick.

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Speaker 7: Where does he go?

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Speaker 14: Well?

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Speaker 12: I think the other takeaway I had, again the need

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Speaker 12: to interpret is unfortunate, But one of the other takeaways

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Speaker 12: I had was that I think Carl Ersa is on

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Speaker 12: board with like, let's go do something big. I mean,

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Speaker 12: that was one of my takeaways. I mean, she actually

642
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Speaker 12: said one of the reasons she decided to keep Chris

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Speaker 12: Balard is because he decided to get off his butt

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Speaker 12: in free agency and do some more aggressive team building. Right,

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Speaker 12: So what does that look like?

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Speaker 14: Though? That Skiars is the problem or this year. I

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Speaker 14: guess they do.

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Speaker 12: Have limited resources, certainly from the draft pick perspective. I

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Speaker 12: think they can open up some salary and they're gonna

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Speaker 12: have to make some tough choices. So if you've been told,

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Speaker 12: if you have been told that everything is on the

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Speaker 12: line this year, and you're Chris Ballard, well then you

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Speaker 12: can't worry about hurt feelings. Man, all right, They're gonna

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Speaker 12: have to part ways with some players that he might

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Speaker 12: personally like and think are good for the locker room,

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Speaker 12: but on Sundays, maybe don't hold up their end of

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Speaker 12: the bargain. You know, we can debate who that is right.

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Speaker 12: There's there are several veterans that they can look at.

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Speaker 12: But I do think the roster will look probably more

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Speaker 12: different last.

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Speaker 14: Year than we have next year, isscuse me, than we have.

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Speaker 12: Seen in the past in terms of roster changes, because

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Speaker 12: they do love continuity, there's no question, right.

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Speaker 14: But continuity has got you with.

665
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Speaker 12: Your job on the line, So good job with that, right,

666
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Speaker 12: So they have to be more aggressive in how they

667
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Speaker 12: shape this roster, and I think we saw the beginning

668
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Speaker 12: of it last year.

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Speaker 14: I think we'll see more of it this year.

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Speaker 7: One last one from me, Steven.

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Speaker 8: When you look at the quarterback situation, should there be

672
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Speaker 8: a contingency plan built in beyond Riley Leonard possibly stepping

673
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Speaker 8: in for a few games with Danale Jones to recovering

674
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Speaker 8: from an Achilles' injury.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I think that is a That's a difficult choice, right,

676
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Speaker 12: I mean, I can make an argument for or against it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 12: I think it's I leaned toward yes, right because that

679
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Speaker 12: Achilles situation.

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Speaker 14: I know, I know.

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Speaker 12: I know they're optimistic. Okay, that's great, but you're dealing

682
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Speaker 12: with a devastating injury here. I think it's risky. I

683
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Speaker 12: really do. I'm not saying they're wrong because I don't

684
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Speaker 12: know what other quarterback it can come in and do

685
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Speaker 12: what Daniel Jones did last year. I don't know who

686
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Speaker 12: they can get that could possibly do that.

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Speaker 14: Well.

688
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Speaker 8: You tell Fernando Mendoza to tank his interviews and then

689
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 8: he ends up in the second round you draft him.

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Speaker 12: Number two, right, I don't know. I think it's they

691
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Speaker 12: have to weigh that very carefully. I'm not giving a

692
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Speaker 12: good answer because I think it's really tough. I really do.

693
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Speaker 12: I think there's something there with Riley Leonard, I am not.

694
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Speaker 12: I am not all the way on board with the

695
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Speaker 12: Riley Leonard hive. Okay, Like Riley Leonard is the next

696
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Speaker 12: you know, Tom Brady, he's not. I think he's probably

697
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Speaker 12: a backup in the NFL and maybe a short a

698
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Speaker 12: short stint starter if you need one. So we'll see.

699
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Speaker 12: That's a tough call, and I don't know the answer.

700
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Speaker 12: To be completely honest with you, I think it's a

701
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Speaker 12: close call, really close call.

702
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Speaker 7: Steven.

703
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Speaker 4: I apologize if you kind of answered this when Jeff

704
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 4: threw it your way. But like this time last year,

705
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Speaker 4: the first week of January, I think we all were

706
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Speaker 4: under the impression two things were either happening or about

707
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 4: to happen. One, the defensive philosophy was going to change.

708
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 4: Gus Bradley was gone and they were going to hire

709
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Speaker 4: a new defensive coordinator. Obviously that became lou n Roumo.

710
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Speaker 4: The other thing that we knew was Chris Ballard said

711
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Speaker 4: for the first time, really ever, that he needed to

712
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Speaker 4: change his free agency philosophy, and again two months later,

713
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Speaker 4: the actions backed up those words. As we sit here now,

714
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Speaker 4: albeit twenty four hours from Ballard talking, you know you

715
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Speaker 4: mentioned earlier maybe partying ways with some vets. I don't

716
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Speaker 4: see like obvious staff changes really at all. Am I

717
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 4: missing something? You know, the lack of a first round

718
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 4: pick hamstrings you a little bit. They do have cap space, granted,

719
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Speaker 4: a big chunk of that's got to go to the quarterback,

720
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Speaker 4: and you would think Alec Pierce. So I guess I'm

721
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Speaker 4: lacking clarity on what might be different this offseason or

722
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Speaker 4: is this largely Hey, it's going to be a running

723
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Speaker 4: back and we'll just bank on better health.

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Speaker 12: I mean, they that is I think the biggest part

725
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Speaker 12: of it, Let's be honest, right, The biggest part of

726
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Speaker 12: it is they are praying to the football gods, okay,

727
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 12: who have not been time to them? Okay, And I'm

728
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Speaker 12: borrowing from the Mersey here. He loved the football gods

729
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 12: or love to talk about them, and so that's that's

730
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Speaker 12: the biggest part of it. But I do think you

731
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Speaker 12: you've got to make maybe some some smart savvy moves.

732
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Speaker 12: And look, they won't they maybe won't be headline moves. Okay,

733
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Speaker 12: They're going to have to make some smart savvy moves.

734
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Speaker 12: And Chris Baler has done this before, in fact, the

735
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Speaker 12: only time he's ever gotten anything out of the pass

736
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Speaker 12: rush is when he has made those kinds of moves.

737
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Speaker 12: So figure it out. Find that second tier of pass

738
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Speaker 12: rushers who can get you some production for a year

739
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Speaker 12: or two and get yourself out of this. You know,

740
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Speaker 12: I think that's what they're going to have to do,

741
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Speaker 12: because I mean, you know, Prime von Miller is not

742
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Speaker 12: walking through that door, nor could you afford him, right, So,

743
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Speaker 12: I don't I get what you're saying, Kevin, and it's

744
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Speaker 12: it's not going to be the easiest thing in the world.

745
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Speaker 12: They are banking heavily, I think on that back, and

746
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Speaker 12: we don't know what Shavarius Award is going to do, obviously,

747
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 12: but certainly soast Gardner is a fabulous player. You know,

748
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 12: they're they're banking a lot. I think on on those

749
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Speaker 12: moves and those guys staying healthy. But you know, I

750
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Speaker 12: agree it's a risky player, There's no question about it.

751
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Speaker 14: Steven.

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Speaker 2: Always good to talk to you.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate your time on a Wednesday morning, and we'll check

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Speaker 3: in with you again next week.

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Speaker 11: Good luck to your canes, all right, and Steven take

756
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Speaker 11: that take that all brother?

757
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Speaker 2: Oh look at that Wow? I think was going great.

758
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Speaker 2: All of a sudden on the way out. He's just

759
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Speaker 2: gonna smack in good news.

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Speaker 4: Three months ago he said the same thing about Illinois

761
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Speaker 4: over Indiana.

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Speaker 8: Steve saw I waited to win. Now I'm talking about

763
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Speaker 8: the national sports writer of the Year. I think he

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Speaker 8: was one of the final man.

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Speaker 2: You guys gonna have to be separated with messages?

766
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Speaker 7: Are we gonna have.

767
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Speaker 2: To separate the TV the next time we see you together?

768
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 4: The dumb button, Steven if you would like to just

769
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:58,919
Speaker 4: dunk on him right now?

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Speaker 14: All right, guys, I'll see the rest of you later.

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Speaker 14: Not James though.

772
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Speaker 3: Good morning and welcome into the Fan morning show. James

773
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Speaker 3: Boyd say it again? Sports writer of the Year in

774
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Speaker 3: the state of Indiana. How about that? How about it?

775
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 3: Shout out to the people who voted for me.

776
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Speaker 7: I love you.

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00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 2: Do you think Stephen Holder voting for you?

778
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Speaker 14: No?

779
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Speaker 7: He demanded a recount. I told him was too late.

780
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Speaker 12: Brother.

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Speaker 10: Although we didn't make media rising of all media.

782
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Speaker 8: Rick Carlo, but we didn't make the joke that there

783
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Speaker 8: might be a recount because in the graphic they put

784
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Speaker 8: the wrong state.

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Speaker 5: Was that Mississippi?

786
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Speaker 2: Let's Mississippi?

787
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah yeah.

788
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Speaker 4: Clarion Ledger jacking Charlie Weiss Junior's status right.

789
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Speaker 8: Now sec jokes, but I promise I do believe I

790
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Speaker 8: work in the state of.

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Speaker 3: Indiana, Kevin Josh writes in to be honest, guys, I

792
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Speaker 3: would seriously consider taking a fire on Kyler Murray if

793
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Speaker 3: he becomes available over bringing Jones back off the Achilles.

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Speaker 3: That injury just takes so long to get one percent

795
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Speaker 3: back from.

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Speaker 2: That's Josh, your thoughts on that.

797
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Speaker 7: Yeah, not a big Kyler guy.

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Speaker 5: I get the hell No.

799
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Speaker 2: He's just as much of an injury history too.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it certainly his injury history is definitely no clean

801
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 5: bill of health. Yeah, no thanks.

802
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 4: I get the questions about Daniel Jones, and obviously I'm

803
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 4: very curious to see the length on the Daniel Jones contract,

804
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 4: But no, thank you.

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00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:23,280
Speaker 5: On Kyler.

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Speaker 8: He had to have initially a video game clause in

807
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 8: his contract, and the thought of pairing that guy with

808
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 8: Shane Stichen does not seem.

809
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 5: Shane'll be right there for Blitz meeting. So I got

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Speaker 5: to wrap up this call of duty session.

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Speaker 7: Just be terrible but serious call of duty fild thing.

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Speaker 7: I think it probably is.

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Speaker 8: I think all the things that we think are no

814
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 8: longer things just get repurposed and put back out there.

815
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Speaker 8: We just don't know about it because we're out of

816
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 8: that stage of our life.

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Speaker 6: Speaking of repurpose thing that's every November it comes in.

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Speaker 6: It is it's like an nannial Mandel, like a new

819
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Speaker 6: ndition of Matt and that comes out.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of repurpose, was that letter from their say Daughter's

821
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Speaker 4: repurpose yesterday from the previous five years or was.

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Speaker 5: There substance in there that was different?

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Speaker 8: Substance in there was certainly different because they went into

824
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 8: specific team decisions. I thought that was different from the

825
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,720
Speaker 8: last letter, which stayed true to just bringing the guys back.

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Speaker 8: And from that perspective, Kevin, why do you think Number one,

827
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Speaker 8: the letter was released a day after having a press conference.

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Speaker 8: And two, was there any again, specific things that stood

829
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Speaker 8: out to you?

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Speaker 7: Because for me, addressing specific i'm sorry moves that they

831
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 7: made was a unique thing. That a unique thing that

832
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Speaker 7: teams usually don't do.

833
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know again, I know you and I disagree

834
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Speaker 4: on this. I was fine with the letter. Like I

835
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 4: don't know, people have asked me, hey, was this because

836
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 4: they heard so much backlash from the press conference.

837
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Speaker 5: I don't know if that was it I mean, I.

838
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Speaker 8: Do think that is a thing, like do you think

839
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Speaker 8: that comes out without right what happened?

840
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Speaker 5: I don't Monday everybody watching the press conference.

841
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 4: I mean they get that our audience is probably watching it,

842
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 4: but like there's there's a lot more people on social

843
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 4: media than I think probably viewed the press conference, right,

844
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Speaker 4: I mean, how many millions of followers do they have on.

845
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, So.

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Speaker 4: I guess what was different again, it was probably just

847
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Speaker 4: further clarification on the press conference. You know, she mentioned

848
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Speaker 4: or they mentioned, I guess because all three daughters signed it.

849
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 4: They mentioned the difference in the free agency approach. They

850
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 4: mentioned indirectly. Daniel Jones was mentioned, Yeah, probably more than

851
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 4: he was in the press conference. I mean, you asked

852
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Speaker 4: specifically about Daniel Jones, and I don't think that got

853
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 4: a direct answer. The historic start was acknowledged, that the

854
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 4: trade for Sauce Gardner was acknowledged, which I think at

855
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 4: some point we got to get into a bigger conversation there.

856
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:46,720
Speaker 4: It almost seemed like the attempt of the trade was enough.

857
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 4: It was like, yep, you tried, you sent those two

858
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 4: first round picks, that means you're back.

859
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 3: And the paying of big time free agents before the

860
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Speaker 3: season started too.

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Speaker 5: Right, But I think that might have been the cherry

862
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Speaker 5: on top.

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00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 4: Honestly, when you consider the historic start and then you

864
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Speaker 4: consider that, now you know there's a comment in there

865
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Speaker 4: about how successful the draft was. Boy, we're putting a

866
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 4: lot of eggs in the Tyler Warren basket. And then

867
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Speaker 4: I would also say, well, have you not paid attention

868
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 4: to recent drafts and the fourth overall pick and what

869
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 4: that is going to lead to the ultimate result there?

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Speaker 4: So again I'll go back to what I said to

871
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Speaker 4: lead off the show. If you feel the need, if

872
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 4: you have to keep on writing these letters and slightly

873
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Speaker 4: change the tone and the words of it, it probably

874
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 4: tells you everything you need to know about the lack

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Speaker 4: of moves that you're making to substantially change the direction

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Speaker 4: of your franchise.

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Speaker 5: That's the bigger issue for me.

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Speaker 4: I'm all for ownership across every sport being more forthcoming.

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Speaker 4: There are several NFL teams out there, I think the

880
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 4: one in Cincinnati being one of them. James Whore they

881
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 4: hardly hear from their owners ever. I mean, you covered

882
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 4: the Pacers. How many times has Herb Simon Chadden over

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Speaker 4: the years.

884
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Speaker 8: Doesn't the last time he spoke was in like that

885
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:00,879
Speaker 8: little media.

886
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 7: Scrum he did. I can't even call it a scrumbles.

887
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 5: I call it a little team. I like my nice

888
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 5: little tan.

889
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 8: I remember I covered a Bucks game in Milwaukee that

890
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 8: night and they got blinched without Yiannis and without Chris

891
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 8: Middleton at the time, and he blew it up a

892
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 8: couple months later.

893
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 5: Yeah.

894
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 4: So I generally do appreciate, you know, the time and

895
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 4: the investment money mainly, but certainly time as well that

896
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 4: fans put into it. I didn't caring from those people

897
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 4: the powers that be is important. I get that the

898
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 4: words are frustrating. I totally understand that I have to bring

899
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 4: up the Pacers. I'm like, look, they went and got

900
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 4: tiers Halliburton. Well, sure they are loved right now, I'm

901
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 4: not saying that just because you speak, you should be loved.

902
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 4: Let me be abundantly clear on that.

903
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 7: I didn't have to say anything when you brought in

904
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 7: mister Halliburton.

905
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 4: I think I've made my piece known on the on

906
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 4: the situation. But yeah, I guess you know one thing

907
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 4: that was in there is you know, we believe we

908
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 4: can compete for the division in a playoff Berth next season.

909
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 5: Well, I don't know. Compete maybe isn't the word that

910
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 5: I would find as a ringing.

911
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 3: So you like this, You think the second half of

912
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 3: the year is much more indicative of who they are

913
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 3: than the first half of the.

914
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Speaker 4: Year, Well, I think that eight years should have been

915
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 4: factored in and not ignored that.

916
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,959
Speaker 6: They look at the strength of schedule too. We said

917
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 6: make hay in the first half because look at the

918
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 6: second half schedule, and again they stepped up in class.

919
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 4: They never wanted to ignore the first half of the season.

920
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,760
Speaker 4: They did some very historic things. They beat the breaks

921
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 4: off of many teams that we don't see in the NFL.

922
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 4: But at the same time, let's look at the entire

923
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 4: season A and let's also look at the eight years

924
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 4: prior to that Orange Shane Steikeen's case, the first couple

925
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 4: of seasons, the seven and twenty two record against teams

926
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 4: above five hundred didn't all happen this year. You know

927
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 4: there are other years that go into that. And I

928
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 4: do think it's a very real question. If you just

929
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Speaker 4: balanced the season out more pick the fifty to fifty games, If.

930
00:42:58,440 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 5: You took.

931
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 4: Chiefs Seahawks from the back half of the season, call

932
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 4: those wins. If you take Cardinals Broncos from the first

933
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 4: half of the season, call those losses. So now eight

934
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 4: and two becomes six and four. Are you still trading

935
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,720
Speaker 4: for sast Carter? Is Carl Rosa Gordon that blown away

936
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 4: by the first two months of the season. Are we

937
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:21,240
Speaker 4: sitting here with changes?

938
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 3: I think it was the fact from their perspective, And

939
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 3: you talked about this yesterday, James, how historic offensively the

940
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 3: Colts were regardless of the opponent in those first eight games,

941
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 3: they were just scoring on every single drive.

942
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 7: It seemed like, yeah, and can you replicate that? Can

943
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:42,439
Speaker 7: you bring that back?

944
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 8: And then can you tweet your roster enough to not

945
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 8: only get back to that level, will be better and

946
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 8: sustain it for a longer period of time. I think

947
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 8: they're obviously banking on injury luck being better, And to

948
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 8: be honest, boy, there's injuries in the NFL.

949
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 7: Then there's what.

950
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 8: Happened to the Colts where pretty much every player I

951
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 8: felt like was sidelined for multiple games. But then, to

952
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 8: the point we made earlier in the show, how do

953
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 8: you get better defensively with this aging defensive core? In particular,

954
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 8: how does the Javarious Ward retirement not retirement thing factor

955
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 8: into any decisions you make in your defensive secondary because

956
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 8: he was supposed to be a big part of the

957
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,879
Speaker 8: sauce trade as well. Now I know the sauce trade

958
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 8: was made separately, but the idea was to pair both

959
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 8: cornerbacks together and just lock people down, and obviously that

960
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 8: would help your pass rush and the rest of your defense.

961
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 8: There are things in ways that we can certainly get

962
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 8: into the next couple days. And I think I've talked

963
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 8: to Chris Balliard as well about how they can get

964
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 8: better from a roster standpoint, even without a first round pick.

965
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 8: But a lot of it I think comes back to

966
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 8: just hoping you're healthier.

967
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and to that point in what we've been talking

968
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 3: about justin wrights In and I think you've veuessed this before.

969
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 3: Kevin on Thursday, ask Ballard, should you get another chance?

970
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 3: Do you deserve it? With all the money you're getting

971
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,720
Speaker 3: paid to deliver results? Would you give yourself another chance?

972
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,479
Speaker 3: You asked him a version of that exact question last

973
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 3: year at the combine.

974
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 2: Kevin, didn't you.

975
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's it's gotten very redundant with the

976
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 4: questions that are asked of him. So, yeah, I have

977
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 4: said this before, the Michael Jordan GM comparison. I think

978
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 4: the only Michael Jordan comparison I would make for Chris

979
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 4: Baward is the type of acting he can play in

980
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 4: those settings tomorrow.

981
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 8: I thought you were going to go the Michael Jordan

982
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 8: in the front office when he drafted like Kwame Brown

983
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 8: didn't work out there.

984
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, to be clear that Michael Jordan as a player

985
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 4: I think was who Jim Mersey was referencing back.

986
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 5: In the day.

987
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,240
Speaker 7: But trying to todd all together.

988
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I Valort will be tomorrow.

989
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 4: He'll be emotional, and he'll be you know, he'll cuss,

990
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 4: and he'll he'll he'll be pissed.

991
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 5: He'll be pissed.

992
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 2: Will he be pissed out of me?

993
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 9: For years?

994
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 5: One more time?

995
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 7: Mark, what was that?

996
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 4: You've been kicking it out of me for years?

997
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 7: Well?

998
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 8: I think he should open the press conference by telling

999
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 8: Kevin that he got the wide receivers.

1000
00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 12: Right.

1001
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 7: Take that, Alec Pierce.

1002
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:02,760
Speaker 5: We have that audio.

1003
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 7: More about the whiteouts, Kevin freaking Bowen.

1004
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 5: It's about time he listened.

1005
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,240
Speaker 7: They're young, but I do think we're really skilled.

1006
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 1: I mean Bowen ought at least be freaking happy for once.

1007
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 9: I mean, you got heard about beat over the head

1008
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 9: with wideouts forever.

1009
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 5: Should we now ship the defensive line.

1010
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 3: Yes, defensive end to specific I do think that's a question.

1011
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 8: But people get asking me, hey, can you throw this

1012
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 8: question at him?

1013
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 14: Can you do this?

1014
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 7: And the do you deserve another year? Question? And it's

1015
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 7: a fair question. But also you're not going to get

1016
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 7: a real answer from that.

1017
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 8: I mean, what would any of us say if we

1018
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 8: had a good job and we got kept around for

1019
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 8: that good job after not delivering you fire me?

1020
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 7: I don't know.

1021
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 4: He had a quote to Jordan Roderigue and the athletic

1022
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 4: James that I did find interesting. Jeff pointing your finger out.

1023
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 2: I think I know where you're heading on this.

1024
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 4: Okay, I don't have the direct one I wish I did,

1025
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 4: But he said something to the effect James of like Jim,

1026
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 4: Jim has kept me even though he probably should have

1027
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 4: gotten rid of me. I'm paraphrasing. I want to be

1028
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 4: very clear, but I'll look it up real quick. Yeah,

1029
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 4: feel free to save me from my fumbling here. But yeah,

1030
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 4: that quote certainly sounded different than what I mean. He

1031
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 4: I guess he said something to that effect last year,

1032
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 4: Frankly when we chatted with him at the Combine, but

1033
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 4: that was a little bit more of the direct nature

1034
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 4: to it, you know. I think when we asked him

1035
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 4: that at the Combine last year, he pretty much shared

1036
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,399
Speaker 4: the story of Hey. Back in twenty twenty three, after

1037
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 4: the Jeff Saturday Frank Reich Matt Ryan debacle, we said,

1038
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 4: all right, we're going to reset. Here comes the first

1039
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 4: time head coach. We're going to draft Richard sent it

1040
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 4: fourth overall, blah blah blah, and we're going to open

1041
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 4: up this new window of patients, et cetera, et cetera.

1042
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 4: And now I guess that has played out, but yet

1043
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 4: we're still going to employ him moving forward.

1044
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 3: So yeah, uh yeah, I'm just curious to see if

1045
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 3: he's pissed like Carly's pissed.

1046
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 8: Here we go from and this might be a different

1047
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 8: quote than you're referencing Kevin. Here's one where at the

1048
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 8: end of this story from Jordan Rodrigue, who talked to

1049
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 8: Chris Ballard a couple months ago.

1050
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 7: I think at this point I thought.

1051
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:18,280
Speaker 5: It was like early December.

1052
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, and he says I'm grateful for him in reference

1053
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 8: to Jim ursay, he probably no.

1054
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 7: I'm sorry.

1055
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 8: Let me back up. I'm grateful for him. He believed

1056
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 8: in me and probably stuck with me when he shouldn't have.

1057
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 2: There you go, that's the quote. I thought you were head.

1058
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, boy, So at least he's aware of what the

1059
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 3: situation is.

1060
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 4: I'll go back to what I said on Monday to

1061
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 4: lead off the show, Folks, New Year's resolutions are bound.

1062
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,439
Speaker 4: You've never seen LA fitnesses so packed when you drive

1063
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 4: by him. Boy, the goal in twenty twenty six, find

1064
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 4: you a boss that's got a leash as long as

1065
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 4: Chris Ballard and Jeff I'm looking right at your brother.

1066
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:57,720
Speaker 2: Your lease is fine.

1067
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 5: I need it to be longer. I needed to be

1068
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 5: Ellie da Cruz size.

1069
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 6: Brother Kevin wants to be able to run across the

1070
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 6: parking lot into the highway.

1071
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,919
Speaker 5: Right now, that's how long on st leak? Yeah, get

1072
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 5: me all.

1073
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 4: The way to the sixty five seventy split, right Mark,

1074
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 4: I could run pasth cluster truck.

1075
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,280
Speaker 5: Big Fan, by the way, Oh, we got that yesterday.

1076
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 5: I need to that's your promo code, big Fan, five

1077
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 5: dollars off.

1078
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 3: I never got a chance yesterday because we were so

1079
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 3: busy doing a bunch of stuff here. But man, Evan,

1080
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 3: if you're listening, I owe you a text that was

1081
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:29,240
Speaker 3: that that salad was fantastic yesterday, the apple wood smoked

1082
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 3: bacon chicken salad.

1083
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 4: The leash as long as the Ellie Da La Cruz

1084
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 4: bobble headline, right, Marko.

1085
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 2: Brother can change at anytime, though, guys, for all of

1086
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 2: us is.

1087
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:39,720
Speaker 5: What that line is doing.

1088
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 7: That's concerning what might they be doing.

1089
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 2: Did Kevin have an insight on that earlier today.

1090
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 14: Or how that go?

1091
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 6: I can't say that again?

1092
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 3: All right, coming up in a moment, we will talk

1093
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,320
Speaker 3: a little bit more about what's ahead for the Indiana Ooziers,

1094
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 3: coming up on just over two days away from a

1095
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 3: huge college football game.

1096
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 2: I think we all know that. We'll talk about it

1097
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 2: next ninety three five and one of seven by the Fan.

1098
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 1: They seized a fan morning show with kb JB and Jeff.

1099
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 2: Third down and eight, Taylon Black is back.

1100
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 7: In the lineup.

1101
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: Here's a step back to Fernando has time rowing over

1102
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 1: the middle.

1103
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 5: He's got.

1104
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 2: Indiana legend.

1105
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Speaker 10: Donna Fisher has been documenting Indiana sports, more big moments

1106
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 10: at basketball than football, frankly for more than a half century.

1107
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 3: Mbrio and of course most of his calls, it's legendary

1108
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 3: calls go back to IU hoops.

1109
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 2: But how much is he enjoying this football.

1110
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 10: Program and where they have been able.

1111
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,760
Speaker 3: To blossom here these last couple of years with Kirk Signetti,

1112
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:45,240
Speaker 3: so many big moments.

1113
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 2: Don Fisher, Kirk, Kirbstreet, you name it.

1114
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 3: Everybody's talking about the Indiana Hoosiers and they are on

1115
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 3: a heater, undefeated so far this year and getting rid

1116
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 3: of to playing the college football semi finals.

1117
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 2: On Friday night.

1118
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 3: And I can't certainly, since I've been here for the

1119
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 3: last thirteen years, I've never been more excited about a

1120
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 3: college football game for Indiana since I've been here.

1121
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,959
Speaker 2: And I said that a week ago. James just keeps

1122
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 2: getting better and better.

1123
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 8: We are living a charmed life when we're watching and

1124
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 8: following this.

1125
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 14: Kevin.

1126
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 3: I know I've asked you this question before, but I

1127
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 3: just don't get tired of hearing the answer. It's like

1128
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,320
Speaker 3: playing your favorite song you've lived in any end of

1129
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 3: your whole life, Like, how much fun is this?

1130
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1131
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 4: I mean it's it's incredible. I mean it's it's movie like.

1132
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 7: You're excited Feely's nipples.

1133
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 5: Thank you, Mark.

1134
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just took the words right out of my

1135
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 4: mouth literally there, you know, I I think i've here before.

1136
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 4: I married into a big IU family, and certainly a

1137
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 4: big IU football family. They're all heading down to the

1138
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,439
Speaker 4: game on Friday, and yeah, just to see their joy

1139
00:51:56,640 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 4: and again something that you didn't expect. Like you know again,

1140
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 4: I you basketball, if they were to make a run,

1141
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:03,280
Speaker 4: maybe wouldn't be as.

1142
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:04,359
Speaker 5: You know it really is.

1143
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 4: It honestly kind of reminds me of the Butler Runs

1144
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 4: a little bit.

1145
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1146
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's exactly apples to apples comparing it,

1147
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 4: but that is kind of what it reminds me of.

1148
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 2: It's a lot of fun.

1149
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 3: John Herrick is part of the broadcast team there and

1150
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 3: of course news director over at WIBC and a good

1151
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,359
Speaker 3: friend of us here at the Fan and he joins

1152
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 3: us now on the Payless Liquors Hotline. John, I know

1153
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 3: you're an Indiana guy too and you're working on the broadcast,

1154
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 3: but I'll ask you the same question I never get

1155
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 3: tired of asking these last couple of weeks, how much

1156
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 3: fun are you having through this whole thing?

1157
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 10: Well, I'm glad you guys played that clip of Don

1158
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 10: because I don't think there's anybody who is more deserving

1159
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 10: from an off the football field standpoint than Don Fisher.

1160
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 10: I mean, I remember the first year on the network

1161
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 10: and IU went four and eight my first year when

1162
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 10: I was when I joined the team, and he I

1163
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 10: think he said something to me like, yeah, this has

1164
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 10: kind of been my life for almost half a lifetime

1165
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 10: watching a football team like that struggle so much. But

1166
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 10: the secret Signetti come in here and inject so much

1167
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 10: passion and energy into the program, into the fan base.

1168
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 14: Uh, to Don of.

1169
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 10: Course, and the rest of us. It's just been such

1170
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:16,959
Speaker 10: a rewarding experience. And never did I think I'd see

1171
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 10: so many Who's Your fans in California at the Rose

1172
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 10: Bowl to completely take that place over. So uh, what

1173
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 10: a what a job it was by that team to

1174
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 10: deal with that long layoff for almost a month and

1175
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 10: basically put out a performance that was close to perfect.

1176
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 8: John, you touched on it right there, but can you

1177
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 8: expand a little bit on the experience of the Rose

1178
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 8: Bowl and how I you fan showed up for the

1179
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 8: moment of a lifetime And as Jeff's pointed out throughout

1180
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,439
Speaker 8: the show, those moments keep coming week after week.

1181
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean we could feel like we got there

1182
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 10: for the for this bowl. We left on Monday, and

1183
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 10: you know, I was out walking around the streets of

1184
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 10: California with my wife and we were doing a lot

1185
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 10: of different things throughout the week just to enjoy the

1186
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 10: moment too, along with getting ready for the game. And

1187
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,399
Speaker 10: I just remember her and I looking at each other going,

1188
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 10: I don't see a lot of Alabama people here, and

1189
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 10: she's like, yeah, I see all these Indiana people. I

1190
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 10: don't see hardly any Alabama folks. But of course you're like,

1191
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 10: how true is that going to be for the game,

1192
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,760
Speaker 10: And then you get to the game and you're like, wow,

1193
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 10: I don't see any Alabama people. So it's it was

1194
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,359
Speaker 10: really it was really something because you just knew that.

1195
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 10: It also helped too that Indiana fans got to go

1196
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 10: to the Rose Bowl the previous year when they beat

1197
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 10: UCLA just in a regular game, certainly not a bowl

1198
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:40,399
Speaker 10: game or a college football playoff game.

1199
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 14: But I think that gave fans like.

1200
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 10: Their first taste of man coming to the Rose bowls

1201
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 10: really cool. We'd love to come back. And then you

1202
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 10: get the opportunity to come back the next year, and

1203
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 10: you just knew that they weren't going to not take

1204
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 10: advantage of it. And boy did they really see the moment.

1205
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 4: Okay, John Herrick, I you radio networking here in pregame

1206
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 4: half time time with Don Fischer and company. Not only

1207
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 4: football wise, but also basketball. Will be a quick turnaround

1208
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 4: coming up for that this weekend. John, let's go back

1209
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 4: to the Oregon game. Your memories from the first matchup

1210
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 4: between these two teams, the good, the bad. Obviously a

1211
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 4: huge win for Indiana out in Eugene.

1212
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 10: Well, I think the biggest thing was the start. I

1213
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,359
Speaker 10: think Indiana got a little behind the eight ball. They

1214
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 10: had one defensive breakdown, but then once they got settled

1215
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 10: in and they took that lead right before half, you

1216
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 10: could start to see that they were really starting to

1217
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 10: feel everything go in their favor and they gained more confidence,

1218
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 10: and they were up thirteen to ten and half, and

1219
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 10: then Fernando Mendoza throws to pick six and you think

1220
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 10: to yourself, this is a moment where previous IU football

1221
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 10: teams might not be able to respond or the pressure

1222
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 10: might get to him. And what's that guy do if

1223
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 10: he leads his team down the field, they score a touchdown,

1224
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 10: and they go on to win thirty to twenty. And

1225
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 10: then the defense had like e I can't remember what

1226
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,359
Speaker 10: it was like, eight or nine tackles for loss. I mean,

1227
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:07,800
Speaker 10: they just did not let up on that Oregon offense.

1228
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:12,280
Speaker 10: And now, you know, looking at the first injury report,

1229
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 10: you know there's all these players on Oregon's roster that

1230
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,720
Speaker 10: are going to be out, one of them being Jordan Davidson,

1231
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 10: who averaged seven yards of carry against Indiana in the

1232
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 10: first meeting. That's probably the biggest name that pops up

1233
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:26,760
Speaker 10: to you. And there's no real surprises on the injury

1234
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 10: report for Indiana. So it's going to be interesting to

1235
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 10: see how Oregon navigates that. I mean, they have a

1236
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 10: really good, really good athletic offensive line, a very capable

1237
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 10: quarterback in Dante More and if Indiana's not with it defensively,

1238
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 10: they could be in some trouble. But they are a

1239
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 10: very athletic defense. And I wrote about this guy last

1240
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,919
Speaker 10: night over on WIBC dot com. It's Elijah Hardy who

1241
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 10: is there leading. He leaves them in sacks and he

1242
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 10: leads them in tackles, and he has made some incredibly

1243
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 10: athletic plays on the defense. I know Aiden Fisher and

1244
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 10: Isaiah Jones, D'Angelo Hans, those guys get a lot of

1245
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 10: pub But Elijah Hardy's a guy on this Indiana defense

1246
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 10: that has really stepped up to make life difficult for

1247
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 10: the opposition.

1248
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:15,800
Speaker 3: John Herrick, Indiana broadcast team getting ready for the Peach

1249
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 3: Bowl and a semi final playoff game for Indiana and

1250
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 3: Oregon coming up on Friday Night. You were with the

1251
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 3: team when they only lost two games last year, and

1252
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 3: of course they lost their last one in the College

1253
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 3: Football playoff to Notre Dame. What is or feels different

1254
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 3: to you about this version of the Hoosiers as opposed

1255
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 3: to last year.

1256
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 10: I just think they're more They're just more pristine. They're

1257
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 10: more precise, they're more detail oriented, and they have more talent.

1258
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 10: I think Kurt Signetti said it before the start of

1259
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 10: this season when he was talking about the guys he

1260
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 10: brought in and the transfer portal a year ago. It's

1261
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:52,439
Speaker 10: funny to talk about what he did a year ago,

1262
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 10: because if you guys have noticed, he's already cleaning up

1263
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 10: in the transfer portal, getting ready for next year's team.

1264
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 10: But he said, we need more dogs, more horses. We

1265
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 10: didn't have enough, and we made too many mistakes in

1266
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 10: the key moments against Notre Dame in Ohio State, and

1267
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 10: all of that is really paying dividends. And I think

1268
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 10: there's two things about this team that makes it so

1269
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 10: impressive and gives them a chance, I think, to win

1270
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 10: the national championship. The first is they are the best

1271
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 10: team in the country in turnover margin. They just simply

1272
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 10: do not turn the ball over. And then they're the

1273
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 10: best team in the country in third down conversion rate,

1274
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 10: which are two very important stats. You obviously need to

1275
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 10: move the chains on third down and you can't give

1276
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 10: the ball to the other team. And Indiana does those

1277
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 10: two things better than anybody else in the country.

1278
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 8: To this point, one more for me, John, when you

1279
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 8: look at Fernanda Mendoz and how you soaking all this in.

1280
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 8: I know we make a lot of jokes about the

1281
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 8: quirky personality, but how doal Din do you think he

1282
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 8: is for these moments? And how much confidence do you

1283
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 8: think the team draws from having the Heisan Trophy winner

1284
00:58:58,760 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 8: on their side of things?

1285
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 10: Well, it's a great point, James. I mean, he's somebody

1286
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 10: that I when I listened to him talk, I learned

1287
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 10: more about football just by listening to him, because he

1288
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 10: will talk about, well, if the defense runs cover three,

1289
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 10: this is what we're gonna do. If they blitz, this

1290
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 10: is what we need to do. Early in the season,

1291
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 10: I think the numbers showed that Fernando Mendoza was not

1292
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 10: as good against coverage and a little bit better against

1293
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 10: the blitz. But now he's great against everything because he

1294
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 10: can he can read coverages so well and if you

1295
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 10: put pressure on him, he knows where to find the

1296
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 10: weak spot in the defense. We thought we saw that

1297
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 10: on the Omar Cooper touchdown against in the State. Several

1298
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 10: throws he made like that against Alabama, just finding the

1299
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 10: open guys. Just the way he spreads the ball around, right,

1300
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 10: it's not just one guy, it's you know, he threw

1301
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 10: touchdown passes to Omar Cooper, you know, Elijah Surratt and

1302
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 10: Charlie Becker, you know, in that game against Alabama. That

1303
00:59:56,160 --> 01:00:00,080
Speaker 10: just shows you how versatile he is, and so he

1304
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 10: he just knows how to beat almost I think it

1305
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 10: looks like he can beat any defense because he's been

1306
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 10: able to study everything so well and learn from it

1307
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 10: and he said. Coming into this year, you know, my

1308
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 10: brother Alberta Mendoza was telling me what a great group

1309
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 10: of coaches Indiana has and how they're helping them develop

1310
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 10: the quarterbacks. It's like, Fernando, you need to get here,

1311
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 10: and Fernando is like, well, I can't not listen to

1312
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 10: my brother. I got to get here, and he did.

1313
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 10: And in the spring he kind of had a little

1314
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 10: more happy feet when pressure was on him. But then

1315
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 10: as the season has gone on, man, he is just

1316
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 10: so calm and so poised under pressure and clearly was

1317
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 10: very deserving of winning the Heisman. As he continues to show.

1318
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 4: Us, all right, John, last one for me, and I

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Speaker 4: know I think you guys de part today for Atlanta.

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Speaker 4: I mentioned it quick turnaround. If my math is right,

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Speaker 4: this game is going to get over pretty close to

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Speaker 4: midnight on Friday, twelve hours later, right, is it? I

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Speaker 4: you Nebraskan inside of Assembly Hall? Are we good to

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Speaker 4: go here? Do we need to call anybody in from

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Speaker 4: the ball?

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Speaker 10: I think we're all right. Uh, it's gonna be a

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Speaker 10: quick turnaround, quick flight after that, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 10: I I don't I don't have any reason to doubt that.

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Speaker 10: Don Fisher will be ready, I mean, the man's iron man,

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Speaker 10: and I think, you know, if Indiana is able to

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Speaker 10: win this game against Oregon, and he's probably going to

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Speaker 10: be riding high on such adrenaline that you know, I

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Speaker 10: think he gets a few hours to sleep, he'll be

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Speaker 10: good to go. Same with me, and you know, we'll

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Speaker 10: we'll we'll take a nap in the day later after

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Speaker 10: the game is over. Because if you guys have noticed, man,

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Speaker 10: I mean Nebraska just they refuse to lose in basketball,

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Speaker 10: which is not that surprising considering how good of a

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Speaker 10: coach uh Fred Hoiberg is uh and and that should

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Speaker 10: be an outstanding matchup. And of course they have to

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Speaker 10: play uh Maryland tonight too, so it's uh we're we're

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Speaker 10: in the gauntlet of the Big Ten slate and uh,

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Speaker 10: Indiana basketball is gonna have a lot of work to do.

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Speaker 10: But they got off to a great restart in Big

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Speaker 10: Ten play with that important win over Washington at home.

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Speaker 10: So this stretch of basketball in January is going to

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Speaker 10: be pivotal for IU basketball as well as the rest

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Speaker 10: of the Big Ten teams.

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Speaker 3: John, you are the news director at WIBC. If you

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Speaker 3: had to rank where the story of Indiana football in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty five is for all news stories throughout Indiana.

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Speaker 2: Would it Would it be in the top five, top three?

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Speaker 14: Yeah?

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Speaker 10: I think it's number one, Jeff. And the reason why

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01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 10: is because it's not just football that this run is

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Speaker 10: making any difference on. It's the overall psyche of a

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Speaker 10: lot of people in the States. The economic impact of

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Speaker 10: what Indiana football has meant to Bloomington and the surrounding areas.

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Speaker 10: I've talked to some folks who visit Bloomington, the organization

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01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 10: down there who you know, relies on tourism and relies

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01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 10: on people coming into that city and just see game

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01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 10: days at home be totally packed and it's being tough

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01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 10: to get out of Memorial Stadium and not run into traffic.

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01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 10: That's actually a good problem to have if your IU,

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01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 10: because that means you've got a lot of people coming

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Speaker 10: to games, You've got a lot of people that are

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Speaker 10: spending money on concessions and food and businesses in the area.

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Speaker 10: It's it's made a massive difference. And I know people

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Speaker 10: joke about, you know, well, it could be a movie.

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Speaker 10: Well down the line, what if it is a movie?

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01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:21,920
Speaker 10: I mean, and if it is another movie about hoosiers,

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Speaker 10: you know, thinking about the economic benefit that's going to

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Speaker 10: have to Indiana as a state overall. So the run

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Speaker 10: that this Indiana football team is certainly far reaching on

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Speaker 10: many levels.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for the time this morning, John, I know you

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Speaker 3: got a busy week. Get to it, and we look

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01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 3: forward to hearing you and Don and everybody else on

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01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 3: the broadcast Friday night is Indiana tries to advance to

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Speaker 3: the National title Game.

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Speaker 2: Thanks buddy, all right, Thanks guys, appreciate it.