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Speaker 1: We are back. It is another edition of Colt's Corner

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Speaker 1: with myself, Kevin Bow and Eddie Garrison across the way

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Speaker 1: exited the Combine on Wednesday morning. We're up at our

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Speaker 1: studio recording this right now. We will play the twenty

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Speaker 1: seven minute Morning in a radio show interview. We just

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Speaker 1: got done with Colt General manager Chris Boutill. Sprinkle in

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Speaker 1: some anecdotes throughout that. Of course you'll hear it right

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Speaker 1: before we get to Twitter questions, Eddie, Happy Combine Week.

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Speaker 2: To you, Happy Combine Week. This is one of your

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Speaker 2: favorite weeks, right yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: Think you know, people oftentimes get a little negative e

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Speaker 1: about the Combine. Spring is eternal. That's how I look

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Speaker 1: at it. I'm like, hey, we're we're getting closer, and

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Speaker 1: you know, I think we hear some answers, you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe not concrete concrete answers, but certainly glimpses of it.

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Speaker 1: The Mooneyward topic. We'll get to a course, and you know,

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Speaker 1: Ballat is kind of fresh in my mind, Eddie because

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Speaker 1: we just got done with them. To me a couple things,

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Speaker 1: I guess before we get started to tease a little

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Speaker 1: bit of what you will hear coming up I guess

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Speaker 1: in a few minutes, it does sound like there they

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Speaker 1: are open to, you know, potentially restructuring and or cutting

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Speaker 1: some of their own You know, again, that's a very

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Speaker 1: foreign thing to Chris Boward really in his nine years

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Speaker 1: as GM, So I would argue that might that it

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Speaker 1: is very necessary to do that in order to achieve

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Speaker 1: your offseason goals. So you know that's there. You know,

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Speaker 1: there's a little pushback. He was you know, they've been

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Speaker 1: so good at drafting offensive linemen and so bad at

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Speaker 1: drafting defensive ends really in particular. So I wanted to

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Speaker 1: throw both those at him because you know, trenches is

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Speaker 1: such a big focus to him, and and the defensive end.

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Speaker 1: He kind of pushed back on I. You know, he

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Speaker 1: threw out the sack stat from a few years ago.

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Speaker 1: I mean to me, and you know, when you're in

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Speaker 1: a three person interview, it's not really the time to

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Speaker 1: get very combative. But you know, you've had five top

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Speaker 1: three pound, three round picks, Eddie, and none of them

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Speaker 1: have made it to a second contract. You know, when

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Speaker 1: you look at I am assuming quity pay is going

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Speaker 1: to be gone, and then you know Ben Bannago, Kamoko

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Speaker 1: about j T. Tuoymollau. But defensive end has been a miss.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I think if you look up sack percentagury,

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Speaker 1: if you look up points scored in general, I think

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Speaker 1: those fall points allowed. I should say that kind of

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Speaker 1: falls in line with it. There. You know, he offered

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Speaker 1: the wolf see on Ziara Franklin being back. I think

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Speaker 1: any time you say that about a guy under contract,

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Speaker 1: it certainly peaks, you know, some of my interests. So

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Speaker 1: again we'll play that for you upcoming here in a

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Speaker 1: little bit. But Eddie, I just thought we'd go over

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Speaker 1: mostly yesterday and that would be Tuesday. The podium sessions

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Speaker 1: media scrums with you know, both Chris Bout and Shane

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Speaker 1: steike In. So I'll start with you your whatever newsiest item,

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Speaker 1: your biggest takeaway from what Chris Baward had to say.

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Speaker 2: I'm at the point, I don't know if you're there either, Kevin.

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Speaker 2: Where I listened to him, it's like, okay, I mean

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Speaker 2: I for me, it just goes pretty much goes one

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Speaker 2: until you start winning, anything you say to me is

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Speaker 2: almost irrelevant. Yeah, just because you've been here nine hears

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Speaker 2: success in the Ballard regime slash era with the Indianapolis Colts.

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Speaker 2: But if I had to pick one thing, it's that

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Speaker 2: there is momentum. It feels, at least from how Ballard

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Speaker 2: based off of what Shane also said yesterday with JAMV

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Speaker 2: and based off what Chris said yesterday, it sounds very

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Speaker 2: very likely that Michael Pittman Jr. Will be back now.

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Speaker 2: Is he back at that price tag? Is the bigger question,

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Speaker 2: Talking about Chris Ballad and Chainstike in both for that matter.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's start with where you began, because yes, I

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Speaker 1: right word, Eddie, and how you describe yourself, But let's

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Speaker 1: don't care to hear from Ballad anymore. You know, I

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Speaker 1: when I think it's kind of true state of the union.

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Speaker 1: To me, I've kind of accepted that he's coming back,

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Speaker 1: and so it's like, all right, let's speak to twenty

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Speaker 1: what do you feel like your great accomplishment is? And

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Speaker 1: I feel like just annually asking that while there, I

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Speaker 1: To put it very simply, I do think compared to

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Speaker 2: Compared to most of the others in his position in

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Speaker 1: Correct, you know, And again some people don't care about

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Speaker 1: Might be overreading it again. I still am probably in

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Speaker 1: play that out Pierce. Of course, this is under the

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Speaker 2: So I soft tissue issues, Yes, thank you for that,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, that's kind of my vibe on Pittman a

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Speaker 1: anti franchise tag. Remember him being yeah, now and go

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Speaker 1: ahead and share this. You you brought up that you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So this wasn't on the podium. This was in

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Speaker 2: and if there's any you know, just getting a deal

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Speaker 2: On Tuesday, Yeah, whatever it is. And he shared that

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Speaker 2: He's like, well, we've only used it once and that

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Speaker 2: was because Michael Pittman Jr. Was flying back from Africa

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Speaker 2: because he was hunting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I first thought that sounds exactly like something Michael

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Speaker 1: Pittman Jr. Would love to do. My guess this is

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Speaker 1: again the tag window is Tuesday, Eddie free Agency then

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Speaker 1: The franchise tag window was about to close. He didn't

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Speaker 1: want to risk it, so he said, we're tagging you

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Speaker 1: But I can't afford for all of a sudden me

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Speaker 1: not tag you something to come up and you then

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Speaker 1: hit the open market and leave. Yeah, because if I

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Speaker 2: It was like a couple days later, right in.

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Speaker 1: Between the tag closing and the start of free agency.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I guess that's a A he it's

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Speaker 1: a funny story, but b it is a reminder of

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Speaker 1: what we're about to enter here next week. Franchise tad

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Speaker 1: closes on Tuesday, so we will get finality to that resolution.

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Speaker 1: Did the cults use it or not? Then they only

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Speaker 1: then we have eight days for them to get at

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Speaker 2: So, who knows, maybe zero that would be wild.

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Speaker 2: A lot of things will go on. Check in starts

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Speaker 1: of south of Indianapolis. So come on, it's a fun day.

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Speaker 1: I like the early the year golf out. He kind

435
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Speaker 1: of gets you in the mode.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: After the Masters, so right before the start of the

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Speaker 1: month of May there so, yes that you can find

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Speaker 1: that on our website under the events tab one oh

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Speaker 1: seven five the Fame.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's certainly one way to kick off the

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Speaker 2: month of Megan kicking off the start of Combine Week, keV.

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Speaker 2: Chris Ballard today joined you James Boyd and jeff Rickord.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so this was from Wednesday morning at the end

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Speaker 1: of our show. Those are the voices that ed he

446
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Speaker 1: just laid out. You will hear alongside myself, Jeff Record

447
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Speaker 1: and James Boyd chatting with the Colt general manager Chris Ballard.

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Speaker 4: Joining us now the man of the hour, Chris Ballard.

449
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Speaker 4: It's always a home game when the when when the

450
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Speaker 4: Combine rolls around. So you got that going for you,

451
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Speaker 4: So he'll join us series. He sits down and gets

452
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Speaker 4: miked up here on ninety three five and one seven

453
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Speaker 4: to five the fan. He's always kind enough to do

454
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Speaker 4: this every year for us and as he puts on

455
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Speaker 4: the headset right there, Chris, welcome.

456
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Speaker 3: Back, Thank you to see you again. Oh good to

457
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Speaker 3: see you.

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Speaker 4: Is there such a thing as an offseason, like even

459
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Speaker 4: five days or anything.

460
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Speaker 3: It's he put this mic on. So we're good now,

461
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Speaker 3: you know.

462
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Speaker 5: When I moved in, so I was, you know, I

463
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 5: was an area scout for a long time. And the

464
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 5: good thing about it being an area scout is you're

465
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Speaker 5: on the road, but you're home. Like you on the road,

466
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 5: but you're home, and you're working from home. When you

467
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Speaker 5: move in the office. On the pro side, there's you're

468
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Speaker 5: in the office. I mean, like when it starts in July,

469
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Speaker 5: we don't get off until after the draft. So it's

470
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Speaker 5: a grind, but it's a it's when you're doing what

471
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Speaker 5: you love to do. I've never saw it as work,

472
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Speaker 5: so feel fortunate. But there's never a time off.

473
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Speaker 3: There's not.

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Speaker 5: There's just that's that's just the way it is. And

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Speaker 5: I don't know if I could take you know, I

476
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Speaker 5: don't I don't know if I could take a lot

477
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Speaker 5: of time off. I mean, I'm just so used to working.

478
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Speaker 5: I mean, that's all I've done my whole life. So

479
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Speaker 5: I feel fortunate and blessed to be able to do

480
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Speaker 5: what I do and and be involved every day.

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Speaker 1: Chris, thank you for the time this time last year

482
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Speaker 1: was a lot about defensive back when you chatted with

483
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Speaker 1: us here. Do you view defensive line now in that

484
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Speaker 1: light this year in terms of the all season focus.

485
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, like you've got to I think you believe.

486
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Speaker 5: I believe you went up front. I've always believed that's

487
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Speaker 5: been a core belief and so there's no question it.

488
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Speaker 5: You know, every year we try to do the best

489
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Speaker 5: we can to make sure we have a front that

490
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Speaker 5: can win because when it really shows up is later

491
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Speaker 5: in the season and that's when your depth shows up.

492
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Speaker 5: So it is a priority for us here going forward.

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Speaker 1: Uh, draft wise, you know, obviously prospects starting talk to

494
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Speaker 1: the media today, you guys have done an extraordinary job

495
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Speaker 1: at drafting offensive line. Then in your tenure, when you

496
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Speaker 1: look at that position group specifically really outside of round one,

497
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Speaker 1: you have why do you feel like you've been so successful?

498
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Speaker 3: I would tell you it was a lot.

499
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Speaker 5: It was the one put, it was the it was

500
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Speaker 5: the hardest to learn, Okay, it just took years to

501
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 5: learn what played in the league and then what was

502
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Speaker 5: successful in the league. Being with Jerry Angelo, I thought,

503
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Speaker 5: I just thought he did a really good job. Bobby

504
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 5: DePaul at the time who is our pro director and

505
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Speaker 5: then going with coach Reid and johns Dorsey really kind

506
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 5: of clarified everything. Okay, here's what we're looking for and

507
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 5: here's what succeeds in the league. You got to get

508
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 5: a little luck sometimes where it falls your way, which

509
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,919
Speaker 5: we've you know gotten, But on the flip side of that,

510
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Speaker 5: we've been able to identify the right traits and a

511
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Speaker 5: player that can make them successful. I he you know

512
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 5: Will Fries who went on and you know has had

513
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Speaker 5: a heck of a career and as a seventh round

514
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Speaker 5: pick and done tremendous.

515
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Speaker 3: So our group does a great job.

516
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Speaker 5: I mean we talk consistently about it, and it's always

517
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Speaker 5: going to position that you don't ever want to go

518
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Speaker 5: short because it when when the season hits. I mean,

519
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 5: take quarterback out of the equation. The bigs are the

520
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 5: hardest to find on the on the street. They're just

521
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,880
Speaker 5: not there, you know, And that's why you've always seen

522
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Speaker 5: us go heavy on the old line D line. That's

523
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Speaker 5: as the attrition through this season, you know, builds up,

524
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Speaker 5: and it does. I mean every year the team used

525
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 5: Art with in August is never the same team. You're

526
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Speaker 5: getting you're playing with in December, so you've got to

527
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Speaker 5: have enough depth, and the bigs are the ones you

528
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Speaker 5: always got to try to find and stay with.

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Speaker 1: Conversely, d N has not had anywhere near that sort

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Speaker 1: of success. Why and has your evaluation of that position

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Speaker 1: group needed to change draft wise over the years.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't, you know, And you're right, we've not produced.

533
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Speaker 5: The one real disappointing thing for me is we've not

534
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Speaker 5: found a guy that you know, is an elite rusher.

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Speaker 3: I think we've had good rushers.

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Speaker 5: I think a lot too still is coming into his own.

537
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Speaker 5: It takes time to learn how to rush in this league,

538
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Speaker 5: and us not being in the playoffs has not been

539
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Speaker 5: able to show kind of the world you know, how

540
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Speaker 5: he plays and not getting that exposure.

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Speaker 3: So I do think he has a lot of upside.

542
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Speaker 5: And look, I don't want to take anything away from

543
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Speaker 5: some of the guys Quity pay play good football for us.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes the expectation of.

545
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Speaker 5: A first round pick, no matter if he's the first

546
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Speaker 5: pick of the draft or the twentieth pick of the draft,

547
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Speaker 5: everybody think, Okay, he's automatically going to be a ten

548
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 5: to fifteen sack guy automatically and that's that's not the

549
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 5: case to giggles sometimes because I think we broke the

550
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Speaker 5: sack record a couple of years ago, and we did

551
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Speaker 5: it without you know, without Frenie and mathis who were

552
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Speaker 5: you know? In my mind, you know two hall of fame.

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Speaker 5: One of them already in the.

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Speaker 3: Hall of Fame. The other one should be yea Chris.

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Speaker 6: When you look back on last season, obviously you all

556
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Speaker 6: had the eight and two star finished a nine. You

557
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Speaker 6: can look at it through two lenses of we were

558
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Speaker 6: great the first half, not squirt second half. How do

559
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Speaker 6: you evaluate the whole thing when you know it's year

560
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Speaker 6: to your league and your final records eight and nine?

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Speaker 5: Well, the one Shane and I have talked a lot

562
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Speaker 5: about this, and we've talked about it as a group,

563
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Speaker 5: you know, coaching staff and scouting that like the it

564
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Speaker 5: we got to find a way to win. You know,

565
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 5: these tough ball games. We lost so many down the

566
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Speaker 5: stretch that were you know, a play here, play there,

567
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 5: And like, injuries are not an excuse in this league.

568
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Speaker 3: They're just they're gonna happen.

569
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Speaker 5: Injuries are gonna happen, and you've got to be able

570
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 5: to overcome that. And you've got to be able to

571
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 5: get in a street fight sometimes and win the street fight,

572
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 5: and like, don't like one day I've told Shane this

573
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 5: little hunt, like don't lose. Let's start with don't lose

574
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Speaker 5: the game.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

576
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Speaker 5: If you look at our record eight and two, and

577
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Speaker 5: we were playing really good football, I think we were

578
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Speaker 5: plus nine, and then you look at the last the

579
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 5: last eight games of the season, I think we're minus nine,

580
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Speaker 5: are minus ten. So just turning the football over and

581
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 5: not playing taking care of the things that you have

582
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Speaker 5: to do to win. We have got to improve on that,

583
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 5: without question, and it's and it's hard. I don't want

584
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Speaker 5: to sit here and say I don't think eight and

585
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,239
Speaker 5: two is mirage. I think we had a really good

586
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 5: football team. But even if we'd have remained healthy, Okay,

587
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 5: everybody's healthy and we're going you can't play and turn

588
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 5: the ball over and do things that are not winning football.

589
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 3: I don't care who you have.

590
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 5: So we've got to improve and excited about you know,

591
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 5: the things we have coming back and the plan we

592
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 5: have going forward, and so we'll go from.

593
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Speaker 7: There along those lines.

594
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Speaker 6: Chris, what is the balance of believing in what you

595
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 6: saw when you were eight and too, and then talking

596
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 6: to saying yesterday, talking to you over the years, knowing

597
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 6: that you can't get too caught up with what you

598
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 6: were because this league, especially, it changes on a dime.

599
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, and every year is different, Every team's different. It's

600
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 5: never the same. And I can't sit or say, okay,

601
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 5: look back, snap my fingers, say okay, everything's gonna be okay.

602
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 3: We were eight and two. We're just gonna go off

603
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 3: that now.

604
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 5: Now we have improvement we have to make in a

605
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 5: lot of different areas on the team. We had to

606
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 5: continue to increase the the depth of our team and

607
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 5: the competition our team and then allow our guys to

608
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 5: compete and guys that are earning it making sure they're getting.

609
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Speaker 3: On the field.

610
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Speaker 5: But every year is different. This is a new year.

611
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 5: We're excited about where we're going, but we got work

612
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 5: to do. We do and it's a bunch of work.

613
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 5: And you know, between now and started the season, you

614
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 5: know we're gonna work pretty effort, you know, tireshly to

615
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 5: get it done well more.

616
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Speaker 7: And I'll pass it to Jeff. But talk about work

617
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 7: to do.

618
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Speaker 6: We talk a lot about al Pearce and obviously Daniel

619
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Speaker 6: Jones Another free agent to be is Nick Cross. How

620
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Speaker 6: would you evaluate his season the last couple of years

621
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Speaker 6: and also what he means to this team and possibly

622
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Speaker 6: trying to bring him back.

623
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Speaker 5: It was Nick was a so we it's never a

624
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 5: player's fault when you draft him at twenty years old.

625
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 5: You know, they don't get they we choose them, Okay,

626
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 5: And so to what, Nick's still a I think he's

627
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 5: still twenty four. He might have turned twenty five, but

628
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 5: he I think he's twenty four still. So we drafted

629
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Speaker 5: him at twenty and then we were we thrust him

630
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,719
Speaker 5: into a trying to get him in there right away,

631
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 5: and he just wasn't quite ready. And so to watch

632
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 5: his growth has been really, you know, fun to watch.

633
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 5: I've said this multiple times, like one of the really

634
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 5: neat things about the job is watching guys mature and

635
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 5: turn into men. Yeah they're not men when they come

636
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 5: into this league. They think they are, but they're not.

637
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 5: But to watch them mature, uh, turn into two men

638
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 5: into professionals. And that's when one of the cool things

639
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 5: about Nick he does mean a lot. We have a

640
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 5: lot of moving parts here, so we'll see that it

641
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 5: works out. We've we've had talks with his representative. I've

642
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 5: know him well, and I'm proud of Nick, and I'm

643
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 5: happy for Nick. And look sometimes like for players, and

644
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 5: I tell them this when they're rookies, like they're gonna

645
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 5: come a point when you and I don't agree, and

646
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 5: you don't like me because of finances, don't like.

647
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 3: There's a there's this.

648
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 5: Big pie, and I can we can slice it up

649
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 5: and and give that piece of the pie, and somebody

650
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 5: might be willing to give you a bigger piece of

651
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 5: the pine.

652
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Speaker 3: And if that happens, good. We've both done our jobs.

653
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 5: We've done our job developing you, and you've done an

654
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 5: unbelievable job taking the coaching and getting better and each

655
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 5: and every year, and you deserve this opportunity. So we'll

656
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 5: see what the future holds with Nick. I'm proud of him,

657
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 5: I'm happy for him. He made it the free agency

658
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 5: and he's made it on a high note.

659
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Speaker 3: So we'll see how that works out.

660
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Speaker 4: Talk about secondary if money Ward decides to come back,

661
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 4: and we don't know that answer quite yet, but do

662
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Speaker 4: you still get excited about the possibility of having everybody

663
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Speaker 4: that you put together last year healthy and able to

664
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Speaker 4: play for a significant chunk of a season.

665
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 7: Talk to me about what.

666
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Speaker 4: You think of health right now for that overall group

667
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Speaker 4: and what you think is possible.

668
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Speaker 3: Well, look, it's a very you know we're humming. It's

669
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 3: a very talented group.

670
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Speaker 5: And Mooney, like, Mooney's a really special young man and

671
00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 5: he's been through some hard things in life. Okay. I

672
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 5: talked to Mooney this morning. I called him driver the best.

673
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 5: His voice just sounded really positive and good of where

674
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 5: he's at all right, And he went to work. He

675
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 5: knew he had to do some work, not just you know,

676
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 5: on the injury stuff, but you know also personally. You know,

677
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 5: he's had some hard things in his life that he's

678
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 5: had to overcome and that's not easy. And then being

679
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,959
Speaker 5: able to get you know, if Mooney's here, which you

680
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 5: know anticipating, yes, but if he's here, and then you know,

681
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 5: you got sauce. When you have two corners that can

682
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 5: play man to man, it helps the rest of it.

683
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 5: It's going to allow lou and the defense to do

684
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Speaker 5: a defensive staff to do some things that I think

685
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Speaker 5: is really going to help us. And I think you

686
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 5: saw some really good stuff when they were in there together,

687
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 5: Like when the Kansas City game, like when they played

688
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 5: now they ended up having to play ninety five snaps.

689
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 3: And look, the more snaps you give Andy Reid.

690
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 5: And Pat Mahomes, eventually they're gonna, I don't I don't

691
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 5: care who you got, they're gonna they're gonna get you.

692
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 5: But we played a lot of Manda Man in that game,

693
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 5: and they held up really well for a long time.

694
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Speaker 5: So excited about seeing, you know, trying to get those

695
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 5: two on the field together and and and seeing what

696
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Speaker 5: they could do.

697
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Speaker 1: Getting live here at the combine. Chris Ballard Colts GM

698
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,919
Speaker 1: is with us on Radio Row. Chris, you've largely had

699
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: the same captains throughout this playoff draught. How do you

700
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Speaker 1: evaluate the leadership of your football team when a the

701
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: playoff success hasn't been there be the late season collapses

702
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:39,280
Speaker 1: have been pretty annual.

703
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, and that's a fair that's a fair question.

704
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 5: Shane and I have actually we've had discussions about that because.

705
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 3: We have really I mean, look, y'all go through a

706
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 3: locker room. We have really good dudes.

707
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 5: They care, they want to win, They do everything they

708
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 5: can in their power to do the right things. We

709
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 5: we have to make sure that they're getting. I mean,

710
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 5: you know, leaders, you know, we got to help them

711
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 5: lead sometimes, if that makes sense. I mean, we all

712
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 5: have growth to do, even all. I mean I have

713
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 5: growth to do in that area and they do, and

714
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 5: we need to do. We need to help them grow

715
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 5: along the way too of things that we want done

716
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 5: to make sure that that is getting spread through the

717
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 5: locker room. I think Shane does a really good job now,

718
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 5: but you know, just at this at this time, you know,

719
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 5: because of the results, it hadn't been what we wanted.

720
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Speaker 3: So we've got to make sure that we're leading them

721
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 3: in the right direction to you expect Zia Franklin back.

722
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 3: We'll see loves II Eir.

723
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Speaker 5: I think like my relationship with him, he's very honest

724
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 5: and he's very strong willed. Darius was very similar Leonard

725
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 5: and usually good players are like that. So we'll see

726
00:35:55,920 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 5: how it plays out. I'm a zay in football.

727
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 3: I'll tell you this.

728
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 5: When football is over, Zaire Franklin is going to be

729
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:08,720
Speaker 5: a star and whatever he decides to do in life.

730
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 5: He is smart, he is extremely mentally tough. He's everything

731
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 5: you want in a in a in a player in

732
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 5: terms of makeup. So what's a fan of the podcast,

733
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Speaker 5: Needless to say, Zaire and I've had some some some discussions.

734
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 3: About the podcast. Look, here's what I do like.

735
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 5: I love that he's passionate about what could be next

736
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 5: in life, like every one of our players.

737
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 3: I want that for But also.

738
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 5: You know, sometimes we've got to learn to temper some

739
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 5: of the words that come out of our mouths, Chris,

740
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 5: and that includes me.

741
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 3: This is not that includes me too. That's growth right there.

742
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Speaker 6: This morning from Chris Ball, we have close you know,

743
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 6: Chris Baalor live from the Combine joining us here on

744
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 6: the Fan Morning Show. Chris, when you look at Anthony's

745
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 6: entire tenure here in Indianapolis, how would you evaluate it?

746
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 7: Number one? And number two Will like, how Crystal is

747
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 7: his future here? And I get that you believe in him.

748
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 6: You've been championing him since for everything up and ups

749
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 6: and downs, and I mean, I've been guilty of criticizing

750
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 6: you and and him, But when he doesn't and Daniel

751
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 6: exactly you.

752
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 3: Know all of them, you know.

753
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 6: But my point is, when you're evaluating him, how do you,

754
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 6: I guess, figure out what his future is here when

755
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 6: you're also trying to resign Daniel Jones and Riley has

756
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 6: shown some things as well.

757
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, look, you can never have enough good players at

758
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 5: one position.

759
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 2: All right.

760
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 5: Let's let's that that's They might not be always happy

761
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 5: about it, but you can't have enough good players. And look,

762
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 5: it is hard to evaluate him right now. Anthony's still young.

763
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 5: I mean he is still young. I want to say,

764
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 5: he's twenty four years old, all right, So the future

765
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 5: still in front of Anthony. The injuries always make it

766
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 5: tough to finish it, to get a complete evaluation. And look,

767
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 5: if you look at the history of some of these

768
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 5: quarterbacks that have gotten hurt early in their careers and

769
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 5: had some real struggles, but they come out the other side.

770
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 5: It's kind of like I talked about yesterday about you know,

771
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 5: you got to stand at the end of the edge

772
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 5: of the abyss and not jump. He hasn't jumped, which

773
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 5: is a is a good thing. I'm proud of him.

774
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,879
Speaker 5: He's had some unfortunate bad luck. But we'll see how

775
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 5: it goes going forward. I know this, he works. I

776
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 5: know this offseason he's worked. He's working with his guy

777
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 5: down there that I think a lot of and so

778
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,720
Speaker 5: we'll see what the future holds with him.

779
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 4: Speaking of that, what did you think of the late

780
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:52,760
Speaker 4: season performance of Riley Leonard?

781
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 5: It was fun, I mean, look at fun to watch.

782
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 5: I mean it was the game wasn't too big for him,

783
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 5: which is always number one thing you look at, you know,

784
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 5: is the game too fast and too.

785
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 3: Big for him? And it's not.

786
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 5: And you're talking about a young man that played in

787
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 5: a lot of big games in college, so that that

788
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 5: part really didn't surprise us because.

789
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 3: It wasn't too big for him.

790
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 5: His ability to like he has worked really hard mechanically

791
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 5: getting the ball out faster, like he took to like

792
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 5: our internally, our guys do a We bring a guy

793
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 5: named Chris has who who does some uh sequencing analysis

794
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 5: on our quarterbacks, and you know, he had some sek

795
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 5: I mean, all of it's a it's a constant involvement

796
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 5: when you're talking mechanics of quarterbacks, like they're always it's

797
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 5: like a pitcher, they're always working it. And he took

798
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,240
Speaker 5: the information and worked with our strength staff really hard

799
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 5: on things he needed he needed to do with his

800
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 5: sequencing and it's getting better and it was fun to

801
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 5: watch in that Houston game. It all kind of comes

802
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 5: together now, you know, like any young quarterback, you're gonna

803
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 5: you know, you got to live with the ups and downs.

804
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 5: But he's really smart. He's got really good poise, and

805
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 5: he can create. Those are things that I think you

806
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 5: saw in the games he played in. I thought to

807
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 5: throw the against I mean, look when when Daniel got hurt,

808
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 5: when we all were at the game, you could feel

809
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 5: kind of a like the energy just get sucked. He

810
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 5: came in the game and played well. If you remember

811
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 5: he threw the he threw the ball to Pittman on

812
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Speaker 5: a back shoulder for a touchdown that you know, whether

813
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 5: I agree with the car or not, it was p

814
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Speaker 5: I but still in the moment of when and he

815
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 5: had just come in the game that that kind of

816
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 5: gave us some hope. Okay, look it's not big for him.

817
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 5: He can make some plays. And then going into the

818
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 5: Houston game against look that first half that was their

819
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 5: starting defense, and he performed well. But like any young quarterback,

820
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 5: we got to work on the turnovers. Can't turn the

821
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 5: ball over, and you know there's sometimes where a play

822
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 5: is dead and you just got to understand it's dead.

823
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 5: That's part of his growth. But excited about Riley and

824
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:09,399
Speaker 5: where he's going Do.

825
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: You see an extension for alec as an either or

826
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: if Pitt is back?

827
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 3: No, No, I think we got it.

828
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 5: We're still we'll work through that. I mean, like plans

829
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 5: can be a little I wish there was a like

830
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 5: you could just write on pay. Okay, here's the plan.

831
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 5: This is how it's gonna go. This is the amount

832
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 5: of money this guy's gonna cost. This is and it

833
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 5: fits into a perfect box. Well, unfortunately that box is

834
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,399
Speaker 5: it gets determined sometimes by the market, all right, which

835
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 5: it does, and so it's it's fluid, it's very fluid.

836
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: Would you say that to achieve the off season goals

837
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: you might have to part ways with guys you've resigned

838
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: and or restructure, which is a little bit foreign for you.

839
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 3: That that could happen. Yeah, that could happen.

840
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 5: The good look, here's the good news, Like going forward,

841
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 5: we're in very good cap and financial shape. Mike Bloom's

842
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 5: done a really good job making sure that not only

843
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 5: this year, but you know, future years are set up

844
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 5: in a way where you.

845
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 3: Know we can we're still open to do business.

846
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 5: We've not ever boxed ourselves in to where we're hamstrung

847
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 5: on what we can do.

848
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 6: Chris, you were pretty quick in the NFC and press

849
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 6: conference to back Daniel Jones to say he can be

850
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 6: your short and long term solution at quarterback.

851
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 7: Why do you believe in him so much?

852
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 6: And do you think that commitment to him was already

853
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 6: made because this is how we evaluated. Hey gave him

854
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 6: two first round picture of saus Gardner. You don't do

855
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 6: that if you don't believe in your quarterback. So what

856
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 6: are your thoughts on that part of it and also

857
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 6: moving forward trying to get him here?

858
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 5: Yep, No, have a strong belief in Daniel and you

859
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 5: know he he's a quarterback that did he had to go.

860
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 5: You know if he went to New York, had some

861
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 5: struggles early, and I still thought even through the struggles,

862
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 5: he played pretty good football. And you know, take them

863
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 5: to the playoffs, wins a playoff game, they sign him

864
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,959
Speaker 5: to extension and then kind of the wheels came off.

865
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 5: So he is a quarterback that's standing, stood on the

866
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 5: end of the abyss.

867
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Speaker 3: And did not jump.

868
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 5: And when we got him, just his daily professionalism and

869
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 5: the way he works and then to perform, to go

870
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 5: out and perform.

871
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 3: Gave you some confidence. Look, I can't sit there and say.

872
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 5: There's always going to be some doubt when it comes

873
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 5: to injuries, because look, he's had he's had some injuries,

874
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 5: but there's been some other cases that we've studied and

875
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 5: looked at where they've had some injuries too, quarterbacks have

876
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 5: and they've come back and they've had long, successful careers.

877
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:44,919
Speaker 3: I'm willing to bet on that.

878
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 5: And I'm willing to bet on, you know, Daniel, just

879
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:52,240
Speaker 5: because of who he is, what he stands for, and

880
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 5: his his passion to play the game and to be

881
00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 5: great at the game. It's a he. He is a

882
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 5: he's not just a nine to five guy. I'll never

883
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 5: forget where DT David Thorton and I were walking out

884
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 5: of the building for the seat. We had just named

885
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 5: him the starter about a week before, and we're walking

886
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 5: out of the building about eight thirty at night and

887
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 5: Daniel comes walking back in the building with some food.

888
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 3: What are you doing? Because I got to I'm.

889
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 5: Getting ready you know, for the you know, for our

890
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 5: first game, and here's I got some things I need

891
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 5: to finish up. He'd gone to eat and he's like,

892
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 5: I got to come back and finish this stuff up.

893
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,240
Speaker 3: So no, I'm willing you.

894
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 5: You bet on a guy that that like that, that

895
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 5: he's he's going to come out the other end the

896
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:39,720
Speaker 5: way we want it to happen.

897
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 6: And then Chris, you're going into your tenth season, was

898
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 6: going through Google and you look a little younger back then.

899
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 6: I guess we all did. I I was in high

900
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 6: school or whatever college.

901
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 5: See this, Hey, hey, you don't have that. You know

902
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 5: why because you don't have any stress?

903
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 3: All this great?

904
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 5: See the difference. No, but you got that fit. But

905
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 5: you got that fit? Come, I can't. I can't die

906
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 5: this because it's come out gray. And if I diet,

907
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 5: everybody will give me cramp for it. They're starting to

908
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 5: show up on you. You got a bet, And look here

909
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 5: and let me tell you something. Games next time I

910
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 5: see you, they better not be They better not be black?

911
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:18,919
Speaker 7: Isn't or your guy?

912
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 3: Oh no, he's no doubt.

913
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 6: But along those lines, and you know jokes aside, you

914
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 6: say you always feel the pressure to deliver going into

915
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 6: a year where, for the first time of your career,

916
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 6: going to find your your contract. Does the pressure change

917
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,399
Speaker 6: it all throughout your experience? Does it change you at all?

918
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 6: When you're going through a job like this where every

919
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 6: single thing that you do is going to be evaluated, judged, critiqued.

920
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 7: I'll probably do it myself again this week.

921
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 6: Like how do you handle that and deal with that

922
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 6: knowing that you want to deliver so badly and you

923
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 6: could be running out of time?

924
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I like the time thing.

925
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 3: I never like. I don't get stressed about that.

926
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 5: I'm passionate about Like when you look, I've had three

927
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 5: I'll tell you this.

928
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 3: I've had three jobs. Four jobs really since college.

929
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 5: Okay, five if you count Hitchcock Junior High but Kingsville

930
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 5: whereas fortunate to learn a lot, Chicago, Kent City, and here.

931
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:24,240
Speaker 3: I've been really blessed.

932
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 5: In every place I've left, it has been hard, Okay,

933
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 5: And why because I invest in people and I and

934
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 5: I don't this is I don't. I've never seen it

935
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 5: as just a job. It's about the people in the building,

936
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 5: connecting with the people in the building and caring. And

937
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 5: every place I've left I've had tears because of it.

938
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 5: And one day it'll happen here in Indy, all right,

939
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 5: you know, sooner or later.

940
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:53,240
Speaker 3: Nobody I can't tell the future.

941
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 5: But there's nothing more that I want than to win

942
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 5: for the fans of this city. They deserve it. We

943
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 5: have great fans, great people. I love the city, I

944
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 5: love the way. Look they're respectful. I know on social

945
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 5: media they're not respectful because they're too chicken.

946
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 3: Come say it in person. Can you blink? Did you

947
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 3: blink that? But saying that.

948
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 5: We've got we've got unbelievable fans and nothing more. I

949
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 5: want to win for them, and we're gonna put every year,

950
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 5: we put every bit of our effort into doing that.

951
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 3: It's hard to be in the arena. It's not for everybody,

952
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 3: Like it's not this.

953
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 5: When when you work in a in a in a

954
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 5: profession where everything you do is going to be scrutinized

955
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 5: right or wrong.

956
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 3: That's just you know what we do.

957
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 5: And I'm gonna tell you, Like, for my children, it's

958
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 5: been like this has been a cool thing for them,

959
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:58,399
Speaker 5: kind of a cool outcome because they've seen the criticism

960
00:47:58,560 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 5: I take in it.

961
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 3: Of course it hurts them, but they have figured out that.

962
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 5: You know, I tell them all the time, don't ever

963
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 5: let another don't ever let another man walk with her

964
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 5: dirty feet in your mind. Okay, do the best you

965
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 5: can do at anything you're doing, and don't for one

966
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 5: second look back and regret anything that has happened along

967
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 5: the way.

968
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 3: You can't please everybody all the time. Nothing more.

969
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 5: There's nothing more I want than being able to celebrate

970
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:34,320
Speaker 5: with our city downtown.

971
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,240
Speaker 3: And that's still the vision and that's still the goal.

972
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: All right.

973
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 4: Last thing for me, I know that you and Rick

974
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 4: Carlisle will have each other's backs. He's let back and

975
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 4: forth with the NBA with the last twenty four hours.

976
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 4: Anything you got for Adam Silver of the NBA today

977
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 4: on the Pacers, Look.

978
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 5: I don't know enough about it other than I love

979
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 5: Rick Carlisle and I love the Pacer organization. And I

980
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,280
Speaker 5: think they're freaking really good at their jobs.

981
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:00,879
Speaker 3: I love it.

982
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 4: I love it, you're getting the head good job about.

983
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 5: I know Matt he knew. I was wanting to give

984
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 5: an answer to they can't find me. I mean, Silver

985
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 5: can't find me if I tell him they screwed him

986
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 5: for freaking finding him one hundred grand I don't work

987
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 5: for the NBA and I never will. I mean, I

988
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 5: don't know what to tell you. I mean they screwed him.

989
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 5: I mean I know Rick, he's got integrit, I know

990
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 5: the organization. I shouldn't get match back. They're shaking his

991
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 5: head anyway, We're good.

992
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 4: We appreciate you coming by, we do.

993
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 3: Thanks for the take you create it.

994
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 1: So thank you to Chris Baout again for that. I

995
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: can't kind of share to the start of the podcast

996
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: kind of where my thought process was in regards to

997
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: you know, that interview, and you know, maybe not as

998
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 1: many of a you know whatever, why do you deserve

999
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: X the money? Like I feel like we've asked him

1000
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:53,800
Speaker 1: that endlessly, and uh, maybe there is a little apathetic

1001
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 1: element of myself frankly, Eddie that's like in there, and

1002
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, the when you hear ballad, like

1003
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: if he wants to go on this box, he will, right,

1004
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: you know, you heard him there go on. Yeah, So

1005
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 1: I don't think he needs to be led down that

1006
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:10,439
Speaker 1: path too much.

1007
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 2: I thought you did yesterday on the podium there when

1008
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 2: he was asked about why young quarterbacks fail right right

1009
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 2: or what derails them or something like that.

1010
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: I was asked, I'm like, I could probably go get

1011
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: some coffee and come on back because I know where

1012
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 1: this is going to go there. So again, some stuff

1013
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 1: that I agree with, some stuff I disagree with. I

1014
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: think I've touched on that throughout the.

1015
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 2: Throughout the podcast, I will add something that James Boyd

1016
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 2: asked in here that had not been asked either at

1017
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,320
Speaker 2: the end of the season or in the local scrum

1018
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 2: or at the podium yesterday, and he asked about Nick

1019
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 2: Cross And that's the first time we have gotten something

1020
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 2: on the record with Chris. And to me, when you

1021
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,240
Speaker 2: hear yeah, when you the first thing I tell players

1022
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 2: when their rookie is about, you know, the slice of pie.

1023
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 2: And if you embrace what we do here as coaches,

1024
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 2: like I will pay you. But at the end of

1025
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 2: the day, there's gonna be a time where you're out

1026
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 2: of me because I may not give you the money

1027
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 2: that you feel like you and your age are are worth.

1028
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 2: And you know, if you hit free agency, there's another

1029
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 2: team out there. That just means we've done our job

1030
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 2: in developing you, and you've done your job and you know,

1031
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 2: embracing the coaching staff and listening to what they've had

1032
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 2: to say on how to get better as a football player.

1033
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 2: And if you leave here to go somewhere else to

1034
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 2: you know, get more money, I can't I cannot say

1035
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 2: that I blame you. And to me, that just goes

1036
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 2: back to what you have talked about a lot. It's

1037
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 2: just you don't know how much money you can tie

1038
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 2: up in two safeties when you have to pay Alec Pearce,

1039
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 2: you have to pay Anthony richard or not Anthony Richardson,

1040
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 2: but Daniel Jones and some of these other players that

1041
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 2: are already underneath contract.

1042
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:38,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, and let's go over that. I'm glad you brought

1043
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,879
Speaker 1: up a Cross and I was glad James asked that, Eddie,

1044
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: because you know, I tweet out the other day like,

1045
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,399
Speaker 1: can you give another I think I use the word big,

1046
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: can you give another big safety contract? And someone replied

1047
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 1: to the big you know, what do you think neck

1048
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 1: Cross is going to get? If you look at safety

1049
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: money in the NFL, anything over about four million is

1050
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 1: big safety money.

1051
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:04,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1052
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: I was looking at it the other day, Eddie. I

1053
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: want to say there were two teams in the league

1054
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 1: out of thirty two, of course, two teams in the

1055
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 1: league that had starting safeties each making north of five million.

1056
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 1: So again, anything in that area for five six million boom,

1057
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: Like you are all of a sudden in kind of

1058
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 1: rare air for the safety money. So that's where the

1059
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: Colts would be if they were to re sign Neck Cross,

1060
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: and can you be there when you are paying a

1061
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 1: quarterback a notable second contract. You know, now you're paying

1062
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 1: big money left tackling, Now you're paying big money at White.

1063
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 1: Now you're paying you know, big money at corner. Like

1064
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 1: now you're starting to pay. So that would be the

1065
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 1: question that I would have.

1066
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was kind of just looking, was like, who

1067
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 2: even is the highest paid safety? I was like, oh, yeah,

1068
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:56,879
Speaker 2: Kyle Hamilton, duh.

1069
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 1: And this is Xavier McKinney, pretty.

1070
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:03,320
Speaker 2: Highlton one, Kirby Joseph two, Antoine Winfield Junior three, Derwin

1071
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 2: James four, Buddha Baker five. Xavier McKinney is three four

1072
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 2: five six, he's seventh. Now it at twenty three six six.

1073
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 1: You said six to seven, no, six, no.

1074
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 2: No, what what's your obsession with that? Now?

1075
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 1: Should we hit some twital questions?

1076
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do that. We will start with eli crazy

1077
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 2: question of the day. If it comes to the last

1078
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 2: day before the end of the franchise tag and you

1079
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 2: still have to sign Daniel Jones and Alec Pearce, who

1080
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 2: do you spend the tag on? Boy?

1081
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: That's you know, the easy answer, say you would spend.

1082
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 2: It on a quarterback, right, Yeah, that is the easy answer.

1083
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,280
Speaker 1: What's easier to find obviously financially it's twenty million dollars

1084
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:55,280
Speaker 1: north and you got a guy coming off a torn Achilles,

1085
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: so that's where it is difficult on that. And I

1086
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if I'm just yet married

1087
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: to the Daniel Jones is your franchise quarterback, But I

1088
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: understand this is the bed you've got and sometimes you

1089
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 1: just got to lay in it. So yeah, I would,

1090
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 1: you know, part of the answer, ELI would depend on

1091
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 1: what is the market and how competitive is it for

1092
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: these two.

1093
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 2: I mean the market for Alec Pearce is drying up

1094
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:23,800
Speaker 2: because George Pickens got tagged, which.

1095
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: Again some my counter and say, well it's opening up

1096
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: because now Alec Pearce is viewed as the top white out.

1097
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 2: That's why I'm That's what I mean.

1098
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he hasn't dried up, so it's got.

1099
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 2: Well, the market itself is dry the other white out. Yeah,

1100
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 2: I gotcha. Yeah, the pool is drying up. Yeah, but

1101
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 2: teams that yeah yeah, yeah, because Pickens is going to

1102
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 2: got tagged and there's already been rumors that Pierce can

1103
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 2: get around thirty million dollars anally.

1104
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:49,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think that would play into my answer

1105
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: a little bit. You know, obviously, quarterbacks, quarterbacks, quarterbacks, quarterback,

1106
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,800
Speaker 1: it's the most important position in sports.

1107
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 2: And the tag for wide receivers what twenty eight million?

1108
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 1: You know, so you're talking of twenty ish million dollar

1109
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 1: difference there. I don't know. I might try to be

1110
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 1: contrarian and still say Pierce, but a little bit that

1111
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 1: just has to do with Achilles. You know, my general

1112
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: thoughts in Danim Jones in terms of the back of

1113
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 1: the bait baseball card, back of the football card and

1114
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 1: his injury history here, and that'd being tough to ignore.

1115
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 2: Next to z Palm. There's been a lot of discourse

1116
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 2: on what to do with some key free agents or

1117
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:30,240
Speaker 2: players with expiring contracts. But to me, it seems pretty simple.

1118
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 2: Chris Ballor needs to simply pull each guy into his

1119
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 2: office and ask them if they still have their juju.

1120
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 2: If the answer is yes, then they need to come

1121
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:40,800
Speaker 2: back playing.

1122
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:45,839
Speaker 1: In simple thoughts, Gosh, every time I hear the word juju, now,

1123
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,800
Speaker 1: I just I kind of score.

1124
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 2: Them a little bit. You don't think about Smith Schuster.

1125
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 1: I just yeah, well, juju Brent, So honestly.

1126
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 2: O good call.

1127
00:55:56,239 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, the whole juju thing. I know, we're now

1128
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 1: getting into it. You know, that's a question that whatever

1129
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 1: Seattle asks Pete Carroll a few years ago, or New

1130
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 1: England as Bill Belichick a few years ago, as they

1131
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: move on there, whatever, some of these college basketball coaches

1132
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 1: that maybe don't want to live in the era that

1133
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: we're in there. So what I am curious about in

1134
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 1: regards to this general question is the thing I just

1135
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 1: asked Ballard there to end the interview you heard, do

1136
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 1: you feel like you have to part ways with some

1137
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 1: of the guys you've resigned to accomplish what you need

1138
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: to right? You know, because again whether it's Pittman, whether

1139
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 1: it's Franklin, whether it's Kenny Moore, you know, and not

1140
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 1: all those I think are the same case study. But

1141
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 1: is that something that you feel necessary? So very unterested

1142
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 1: to see how that aspect goes, because again we've asked

1143
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,839
Speaker 1: us about ballad of the last whatever eighteen months, what

1144
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:59,720
Speaker 1: needs to change, what will be different? He said, spending

1145
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: in free agency last year, and we saw that come

1146
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,439
Speaker 1: to fuition. He really didn't say anything about the draft, right,

1147
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 1: and the draft pretty much went normal for him. Now

1148
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 1: again the question becomes partying ways with your own that

1149
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 1: would be very different for him. Is that something we

1150
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 1: see come to fuition here? Really starting any day now,

1151
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 1: this is when you do it. Miami had the big purge,

1152
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 1: you know, over the next you know deadlines obviously spur

1153
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 1: action two weeks from today the official you know start

1154
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:30,479
Speaker 1: to the new league year. So in the next fourteen days,

1155
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: this is when we're gonna find out.

1156
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 2: Mm hm. When he said at the start, I think

1157
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 2: it was at the start of your interview with him,

1158
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 2: and he said, I like where we're going. Where is

1159
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 2: it that they're going.

1160
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 1: In regards to the whole team?

1161
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I.

1162
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 1: Think you know again he continues, and Shane's in the

1163
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 1: same boat. They continue to be very bullish on what

1164
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 1: they have makeup lies what they have from a you

1165
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 1: know what, I think what they found in Daniel Zones

1166
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 1: on if I can speak on behalf of them, I

1167
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: guess that to me is where I think they're at.

1168
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 1: I think their offensive line, he's still are very bullish

1169
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: on their secondary and we went over kind of on

1170
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: paper particularly corner. They still you know, kind of view

1171
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: it at that light there, So you know, we got

1172
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 1: in this debate on the show actually right before Ballard

1173
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 1: came on, and how close are they? You know, and

1174
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: my eyes kind of started to scan the room. And

1175
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 1: for those unfamiliar with how radio row is over at

1176
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 1: the Convention Center here in downtown Indianapolis, you know, you

1177
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 1: have about sixty stations, podcasts teams set up there, and

1178
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: so you're looking around the room and all of a sudden,

1179
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 1: my eyes see Kansas City, and my eyes see Baltimore,

1180
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:46,919
Speaker 1: and my eyes see Cincinnati. So we're debating how close

1181
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 1: the Colts are. There's Mahomes and the Chiefs in the

1182
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 1: Caribbean in January. There's Jackson and the Ravens on the

1183
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 1: beach in January. There's Burrow in the Bengals on the

1184
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 1: beach in January. You don't think those three franchises, with

1185
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: those three quarterbacks aren't saying the same thing, right, And

1186
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 1: that's what makes it difficult for me to like, I

1187
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 1: think the NFL first off is the ultimate league that

1188
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 1: tests you annually into how close you are. It's very

1189
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 1: difficult to fall out of bed and win ten or

1190
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 1: eleven in the NFL, So that angle is there for

1191
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 1: me as well, and then I keep on coming back

1192
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 1: to this. The season obviously started off really, really well,

1193
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 1: but man, at the end of the day, you still

1194
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 1: lost the division by five freaking games, Yeah, five out

1195
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 1: of seventeen, and you lost the wild card by three.

1196
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1197
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 1: So it's not just a boy that kick goes in

1198
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 1: against Seattle or doesn't go in against Seattle. Well yeah,

1199
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 1: maybe maybe not. You know, we don't know exactly how

1200
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 1: that would have played out for you. I mean, that

1201
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 1: would have been one game, but okay, that now becomes

1202
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 1: four and becomes two. Okay, what other game you going

1203
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 1: a point? You gonna flip a Houston game? You know,

1204
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 1: still even if you flip a divisional game, it's still,

1205
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 1: you know, isn't all the way you into the postseason.

1206
00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 2: So let me ask you this in return, like the

1207
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 2: on how close the Colts are? How close is the

1208
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 2: Colts defense to Seattle, Denver and some of those other

1209
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 2: elite groups. Because I'm not trying to be that guy,

1210
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 2: but I mean, Daniel Jones is not Mahomes, he is

1211
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 2: not Allen, he is not Burrow, he is not Lamar.

1212
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 2: He's not going to will you to a ton of wins.

1213
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 2: And so the recipe for them to win games is

1214
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 2: by having a top three, top five defensive unit to

1215
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 2: where that defensive unit can help bail you out if

1216
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 2: the offense doesn't have it on a day to go

1217
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 2: out there and score a ton of points.

1218
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I I don't see the current makeup of a

1219
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 1: team capable of winning ugly enough. Now on paper, I

1220
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 1: can get intrigued by this secondary, but you know, I'm

1221
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 1: still front seven. Okay. The player you're most confident in

1222
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 1: the front seven is who?

1223
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 2: Oh boy, I don't know. I want to say DeForest Buckner,

1224
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 2: but with that neck surgery, you know, like I.

1225
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 1: Can't say Buckner. I would say Grover Stewart would be

1226
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 1: my first answer. My second might be a lot to

1227
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 1: next and thirty one year olds and six seven dudes

1228
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 1: that have had back injuries. They just start to scare me, man,

1229
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:22,959
Speaker 1: they just do. So that's where I've got to see

1230
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 1: how the next few weeks are going to play out

1231
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 1: and what the makeup looks like.

1232
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, two questions left. Colton would like to know what

1233
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 2: do you do if you are Chris Ballard and Ty

1234
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:36,959
Speaker 2: Simpson is sitting there? I pick forty seven make calls

1235
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 2: around the league to see who wants them?

1236
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 1: Is ty Simpson good?

1237
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 2: I don't know. He played. He played severely banged up

1238
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 2: there the last like month.

1239
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 3: In the year.

1240
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 1: Who I mean, who is a second quarterback? Boy? That's

1241
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 1: a that's a tough one, boy, Colton. I can listen

1242
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 1: to the question if the regiment changed, if the regiment changed,

1243
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 1: quarterbacks on the table, you know, anywhere, But the regime's

1244
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 1: not changing. And you know again, are you in a

1245
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 1: position to be patient? You can't draft a quarterback of

1246
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 1: forty seven?

1247
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 6: Right?

1248
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 1: Oh?

1249
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 2: Think so?

1250
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 1: No chance in hell? Yeah, I'd be stune there so yeah,

1251
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 1: not when you've decided to run it back.

1252
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 2: And then the final question for today's edition of Colt

1253
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 2: Corners from Mason. Two weeks after mister Ers's death, the

1254
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 2: Colts decided to move on from Morocco Brown. I assume

1255
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 2: this was a carly erse Gordon call. Was there any

1256
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 2: clarity from the team on why that decision was made?

1257
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 2: And how does the Colts draft and scouting process change

1258
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 2: now that they no longer have a chief personnel executive.

1259
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 2: I know he was one of the last voices to

1260
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 2: draft Anthony Richardson. I'm only speculating, but was he was

1261
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 2: he the fall guy for that pick? Kevin correct me

1262
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 2: if I'm wrong. I just I thought his contract was up,

1263
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 2: I think, and they just didn't renew it. I thought

1264
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 2: that's where that was. I didn't think it was.

1265
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 1: A I believe you are correct.

1266
01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 2: On anything like that.

1267
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, it's interesting the Colts have

1268
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 1: retained a lot of their own. You know, we just

1269
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 1: saw the coaching staff get announced earlier this week. Of

1270
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 1: your top whatever, fifteen coaches on staff. The only one

1271
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 1: different is defensive line. And Charlie Partridge wanted to go

1272
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 1: to Notre Dame. Like It's not like the Colts wanted

1273
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 1: him back, I guess, is what I'm saying, right, So,

1274
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 1: I mean you literally made zero notable staff changes. The

1275
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 1: only guy that's really changing of someone noticed behind the

1276
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 1: scenes is you know the old uh game day whatever,

1277
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 1: the guy that's deciding on, you know, when to challenge

1278
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 1: and the guy in Shane secin Zier for example. So

1279
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 1: you know, the Cults have had little turnover scouting wise,

1280
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:38,440
Speaker 1: really within their scouting department.

1281
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've had very little in.

1282
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 1: The in the Ballad era. You know, fall guy. I

1283
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 1: you know, I it's kind of weird if you are

1284
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 1: some of these people within the colts operation right now,

1285
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 1: you're grateful to have a job in professional sports. Of course, absolutely,

1286
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 1: these are one of thirty two. But also do you

1287
01:03:58,280 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 1: want to hang on to his sinking ship?

1288
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 3: You know?

1289
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 1: I think that is something that you see. You know,

1290
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 1: Buzz Williams in college basketball comes to mind. He like

1291
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 1: stays in these jobs for like four to five years.

1292
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 1: Does just enough? Bzz and Buzz is right to the

1293
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 1: next one. You know, It's like, is that the way

1294
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 1: to go of like, you don't stay too too long?

1295
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 2: To let the queen bee finding her new high vocation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very very well said there. That would be

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Speaker 1: again kind of a somewhat serious question I have of like,

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Speaker 1: you know, if you are some of these assistant coaches.

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Speaker 2: It's like Dennis Schroeder of the NBA. Sure, new team, ever.

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Speaker 1: You have the opportunity to move and maybe restart or

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Speaker 1: I should say, regrow the leash if you will get

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Speaker 1: a new leash. Is that entertaining to you at all?

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Speaker 2: Because he didn't sign anywhere, did he?

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Speaker 1: Morocco Brown? Yeah, yes, I believe not. I think last

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Speaker 1: I heard a consulting rule. Now, to be fair, the drafting.

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Speaker 1: Scouting contracts are usually a May thing, so you know

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Speaker 1: this draft cycle, does he get through and then you know,

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Speaker 1: does he join somewhere after the draft is here in May?

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Speaker 1: By the way, are you a mister on the owner front?

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Speaker 2: I believe so you are. Yeah. I've always been a

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Speaker 2: mister or miss or missus right with your man, sir,

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Speaker 2: but with.

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Speaker 1: Like people that are rich. Because you're rich, we call

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Speaker 1: you mister.

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Speaker 2: I just view that as a sign of respect, mister Gates,

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Speaker 2: mister Cook. Yeah, so like if I met your dad,

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Speaker 2: I call him mister Bowen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's fair. So we go and missus ersa Gordon

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Speaker 1: or No, I.

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Speaker 2: Don't that's a great question. I feel like everyone just

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Speaker 2: calls her Carly.

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Speaker 1: Right, and I mean I'm like, I don't know, we're

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Speaker 1: probably like ten years difference.

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Speaker 2: How soon until we start calling her sig? Well? Yeah, yeah, missus? Sigh,

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Speaker 2: how are you doing?

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Speaker 1: You go there for the acronym. You've got a show

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Speaker 1: to start with Jay Queer hearing about half hour. He's

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Speaker 1: Eddie Garrison. I'm Kevin bow and we'll be back next

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Speaker 1: week recapping the full NFL combine. Everybody have a great week.