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Speaker 1: Live from vall Hartbeiner and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz Today.

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Speaker 2: Welcome everybody to Tony Katz Today on this Tuesday, September

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Speaker 2: twenty third. As you can probably tell by now, Tony

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Speaker 2: Katz is out likely celebrating the Jewish High Holidays. I'm

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Speaker 2: his guest host and his friend Kira Davis. I'm your

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Speaker 2: friend too. I'm on this mike all the time. I

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Speaker 2: love coming to do this show. I love Tony's audience

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Speaker 2: as you. As many of you may already know, I

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Speaker 2: am based in southern California, so I am coming to

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Speaker 2: you now. It's morning time here. I'm coming to you

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Speaker 2: now from it's gray southern California, but it's going to

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Speaker 2: warm up and it's going to get really sunny here

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Speaker 2: very shortly. A lot of people don't know this about

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Speaker 2: southern California, but oftentimes where I live by the beach,

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Speaker 2: it starts out gray and cool and gets sunnier through

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Speaker 2: the day. And also, if you come here in December

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Speaker 2: or January, you're going to be cold.

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Speaker 3: You're not going to be cold like you.

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Speaker 2: Are in Indianapolis in December or January, but it's not

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Speaker 2: as warm here as people think it is, so always

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Speaker 2: exercise caution, check the weather. We have so much news

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Speaker 2: to get to today.

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Speaker 3: I can't I barely know where to start.

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Speaker 2: I mean, let me just run down a number of

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Speaker 2: the I mean news is going on right now while

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Speaker 2: I'm on this mic, and let me just run down

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Speaker 2: what we've got to go over today. Trump stop by

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Speaker 2: the UN this morning for this afternoon and ripped it up.

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Speaker 2: We are going to be talking about some of the

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Speaker 2: things he said at the UN. He definitely looks like

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Speaker 2: a different man to me. I think we're all different.

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Speaker 2: After laying Charlie to rest over the weekend, and yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think we're all different. And I think Trump definitely

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Speaker 2: reflected that. So we also have autism. Trump made announcement

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Speaker 2: about autism yesterday. We'll talk about that. Jimmy Kimmel, what else?

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Speaker 2: Secret Services has floiled a plot. They found thousands of

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Speaker 2: tech devices of devices, that's what they said, bones and

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Speaker 2: about that. Kamala Harris is on the book tour, y'all.

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Speaker 2: I ordered this book. It hasn't come yet. I didn't

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Speaker 2: ask for a press copy ahead of time. I probably

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Speaker 2: should have done that. I'm dying to read this thing.

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Speaker 2: Don't judge me.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I bought it.

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Speaker 2: It's a book.

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Speaker 3: I love books, and I want to read every horrible word.

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Speaker 2: So we'll talk about that, and then we'll talk about

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Speaker 2: Antifa and the President designating Antifa and as os. We're

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Speaker 2: going to talk about just the absolute meltdowns that are

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Speaker 2: going on on the left, about all of it. And

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Speaker 2: I want to say this that when when Charlie was murdered,

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Speaker 2: I spent two a couple of days, two or three

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Speaker 2: days even watching CNN and MSNBC. Those are always the

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Speaker 2: two channels I turned to when there's crisis because I

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Speaker 2: want to know how they're reporting. When I want information,

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Speaker 2: I go to X or I go to news Max,

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Speaker 2: or I go to Fox, or I go to other

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Speaker 2: do in really extreme crises like losing Charlie, I go

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Speaker 3: So I sat on those channels for two days.

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Speaker 2: I just watched them, and I was really impressed with

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Speaker 2: a matter of fact, they aired the entire memorial service

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Speaker 2: on Sunday start to finish with no interruptions, and they

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Speaker 2: really were. You could see that the anchors were affected.

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Speaker 2: I definitely believed that. And they talked a lot, and

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Speaker 2: you know, they were still being liberals. Don't get me wrong,

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Speaker 2: they were still being liberals about it, but they talked

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Speaker 2: a lot about lowering the rhetoric, the temperature, the.

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Speaker 3: Heat, YadA, YadA, YadA.

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Speaker 2: And I thought, for one second, I thought to myself,

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Speaker 3: Maybe this is where they get it now.

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Speaker 2: I don't expect them to become Republicans, and I don't

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Speaker 2: even expect them to suddenly go, we've been wrong this

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Speaker 2: Really they're going to honor their observation, which is we're

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Speaker 2: just too heat it. And that lasted about twenty four hours,

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Speaker 2: and then the gloves came off. And this all connects

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Speaker 2: the heels of their melted by the way, I want

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Speaker 2: to say this. I keep thinking the left has a bottom,

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Speaker 2: am naive enough at fifty one years old to keep

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Speaker 2: falling for this. But I just to keep using this term.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe that people would be so obtuse. I'm

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Speaker 2: just really struggling with it. I have a lot of

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Speaker 2: things to say about the degradation of the left, but

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Speaker 3: But in the.

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Speaker 2: Follow up following the aftermath of Charlie's death, the Kimmel

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Speaker 2: thing popped up, and they did with the left. This

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Speaker 2: is their only playbook. Now I'm writing a series on

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Speaker 2: it on my substack. By the way, you can go

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Speaker 2: to just Kia Davis dosubsec dot com. Did I say

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Speaker 2: my name at the top of the show, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: It's Kia Davis. Everybody.

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Speaker 2: You can go to just Kira Davis and you can

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Speaker 2: see a series I've written. It's called the Beyonce Campaign.

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Speaker 2: I actually started it during Kamala's campaign and I was

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Speaker 2: talking about how fake it was, and there was even

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Speaker 2: this fake idea that Beyonce was going to show up

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Speaker 2: at the DNC and give Kamela this little boost, and

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Speaker 2: she never showed up. It was all rumor and innuendo.

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Speaker 2: And I wrote an article about how that's that symbolic

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Speaker 2: of Camela's entire campaign. It is all rumor and innuendo.

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Speaker 2: It turns out that that has become a little bit

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Speaker 2: of a series. Megan Markle released her Weird lifestyle show

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Speaker 2: and I felt like that was another stab at authenticity

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Speaker 2: that just looked fake. And then the Gap ad came out.

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Speaker 2: The Gap Ad, the Gap Jeans ad. If you haven't

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Speaker 2: seen it, it's a response to the Sydney Sweeney jeans ad.

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Speaker 2: It's good enough, it's nice, lots of pretty girls in

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Speaker 2: it again, but it's just fake. It's a it's just

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Speaker 2: a cheap fake, a cheap version of the original.

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Speaker 3: And that's all the left has now. You'll know.

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Speaker 2: Last time I was on the show, I Know, I

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Speaker 2: his press accounts aping Trump. He's trying to copy Trump,

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Speaker 2: he's trying to like Trump. It's a strategy, but it's

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Speaker 2: a cheap fake. That's what this whole Kimmel thing is

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Speaker 2: we lost Charlie. It was a huge loss that changed

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Speaker 2: nascence of this martyrdom.

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Speaker 3: We really are.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be decades before we see how this

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Speaker 3: But they noticed, right.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, they saw that as a sea change moment. And

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Speaker 2: they're all scared because they are all losing their grip

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Speaker 2: on the culture. And what does the left do. They

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Speaker 2: can't create, they can only copy, they can only imitate.

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Speaker 2: They need a sacrifice. We have Charlie. They need a sacrifice.

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Speaker 2: So when Jimmy Kimmel got let go, that was their sacrifice.

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Speaker 2: But because democrats have no depth and because progressives have

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Speaker 2: no souls, they don't know how to pick a leader, right,

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Speaker 2: they don't know how to pick a martyr.

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Speaker 3: They don't understand it.

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Speaker 2: So the martyr is not the millionaire television host who

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Speaker 3: That that's not the martyr. The martyr is the man who.

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Speaker 2: Jimmy their martyr. That okay, that's the hill they're going

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Speaker 2: to die on. And they and they, they protested.

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Speaker 3: Right while we were gathering having vigils for Charlie, praying

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Speaker 3: They were organizing.

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Speaker 2: They were stealing our gospel songs and twisting the words

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Speaker 2: that's what they were doing while we were while we

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Speaker 2: were donating money to TPUSA, sixty two thousand new chapters,

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Speaker 3: They were tearing down Charlie Kirk memorials.

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Speaker 2: They were posting horrible, nasty comments, they were making up cartoons, they.

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Speaker 2: That's their cheap fake of our authentic movement. Jimmy Kimmel

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Speaker 2: have no bottom. We should stop treating them. Maybe this

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Speaker 2: Us to stop treating these people like their bottom that

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Speaker 3: But I'll tell you what, We're gonna go to a break.

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Speaker 2: But when we come back, I'm gonna I'll tell you

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Speaker 2: what Trump went to the UN today, and basically what

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Speaker 2: he said is screw the bottom, We'll do it ourselves.

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Speaker 2: That's basically what he said. And I think that that's

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Speaker 2: a message for America. Let's take a break. I'm Kia

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz Today. Welcome back everybody to Tony Katz Today.

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Speaker 2: I am your guest host, Kia Davis filing in for

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Speaker 2: Tony Kats. I just got right off to a start

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Speaker 2: at the top of the show. Didn't give you any

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Speaker 3: Sorry about that.

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Speaker 2: I got excited. There's so much used to talk about today.

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Speaker 2: Go find me on x at real Kira Davis. That's

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Speaker 2: k Find me on Instagram at just Kira Davis, just

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Speaker 2: Kia Davis. You'll find me on Facebook if you just

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Speaker 2: search my name, it'll pop up. There's a lot of

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Speaker 2: Kia Davis is out there, surprisingly, but anyways, that's where

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Speaker 2: you can find me. Go to my substack. By my

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Speaker 2: book drawing Lines why Conservatives must begin to battle fiercely

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Speaker 2: in the arena of ideas. It's actually more relevant than

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Speaker 2: ever I wrote it in twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 3: It's predictive, it's prescient.

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Speaker 2: It's about getting off your butt and getting in the

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Speaker 2: game because we're losing the culture there and we're not

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Speaker 3: We just got a battle.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't as hardcore then, right, I got radicalized that

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Speaker 2: Go find me on exit Real Curate and Davis. We've

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Speaker 3: Now, there's always room. I talk for a living.

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Speaker 2: have heard from people that I've known personally who are

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Speaker 2: there as invited guests, and they said that they were

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Speaker 2: just overwhelmed by the number of people and the support,

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Speaker 2: and they were so happy to see everybody sacrifice to

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Speaker 2: come out like that just to pass that along. But

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Speaker 2: there was emotional weekend, is what I'm trying to say.

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Speaker 2: And I think I think that plays into a little

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Speaker 2: bit of the muddiness of Trump's autism announcement, which we're

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Speaker 2: going to talk about next hour.

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Speaker 3: But also I just think he is raw.

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Speaker 2: He's raw. You know, Charlie was his friend. He wasn't

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Speaker 2: just a supporter. Charlie was his friend. And all of

447
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Speaker 2: this is because of this of.

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Speaker 3: The Trump era.

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Speaker 2: And it's not Trump's fault, because he's right. You know,

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Speaker 2: the bullets are for us. They're not for them, they're

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Speaker 2: for us. They're standing in the way. But even still

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Speaker 2: a man like that will take that as a burden.

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Speaker 2: So he all that to say he's done everybody, He's finished.

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Speaker 2: So he decided he was going to show up to

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Speaker 2: the UN today and give everybody what for. I watched

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Speaker 2: as much as the speech as it could before I

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Speaker 2: had to come and get ready for the radio show.

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Speaker 2: So I asked our producer to pull whatever clips he

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Speaker 2: could find. I have not listened to these clips by

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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what clip it is. He was burning

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Speaker 2: it up, So just give me a clip.

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Speaker 3: Land on whatever you got.

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Speaker 4: In Western countries and their borders. In twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 4: the UN budgeted three hundred and seventy two million dollars

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Speaker 4: in cash assistance to support and estimated six hundred and

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Speaker 4: twenty four thousand migrants churning into the United States. Think

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Speaker 4: of that, the UN is supporting people that are illegally

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Speaker 4: coming into the United States and then we have to

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Speaker 4: get them out. The UN also provided food, shelter, transportation,

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Speaker 4: and debit cards to illegal aliens. Can you believe that,

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Speaker 4: by the way to infiltrate our southern border. Millions of

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Speaker 4: people came through that southern border just a year ago.

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Speaker 4: Millions and millions of people were pouring in twenty five

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Speaker 4: million altogether over the four years of the incompetent Biden administration,

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Speaker 4: and now we have it stopped, totally stopped. In fact,

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Speaker 4: they're not even coming anymore because they know they can't

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Speaker 4: get through. But what took place is totally unacceptable. The

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Speaker 4: UN is supposed to stop invasions, not create them, and

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Speaker 4: not finance them. In the United States, we reject the

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Speaker 4: idea that mass numbers of people from foreign lands can

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Speaker 4: be permitted to travel halfway around the world, trample our orders,

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Speaker 4: violate our sovereignty because unmitigated crime, and deplete our social

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Speaker 4: safety net. We have reasserted that America belongs to the

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Speaker 4: American people, and I encourage all countries to take their

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Speaker 4: own stand in defense of their citizens as well. You

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Speaker 4: have to do that because I see it. I'm not

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Speaker 4: mentioning names. I see it, and I can call every

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Speaker 4: single one of them. You're destroying your countries. They're being destroyed.

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Speaker 4: Europe is in serious trouble. They've been invaded by a

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Speaker 4: force of illegal aliens like nobody's ever seen before.

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Speaker 2: If you could just see the faces of that star

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Speaker 2: Wars Cantina set up there while he was talking, Sour

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Speaker 2: doesn't even begin to describe it furious, embarrassed, angry, indignant,

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Speaker 2: and of course he's absolutely right, and they know he's right.

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Speaker 2: They know he's right. These people are completely captured. They

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Speaker 2: know what they're doing is wrong, but they are helpless

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Speaker 2: to free themselves from the chains of wealth and bribery

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Speaker 2: and influence. And they're just in so deep. I honestly

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Speaker 2: believe they want a guy like Trump to pull some

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Speaker 2: strings and throw his muscle around and force them to

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Speaker 2: do some things. They are so weak, empathetic. He's absolutely right.

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Speaker 2: This is a breaking point. When I first started in

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Speaker 2: this job, that would have been during the Obama administration

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Speaker 2: in about twenty ten. When I first started doing this work,

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Speaker 2: we were talking about immigration, how bad it was, and

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Speaker 2: the conversation really was revolving around racism and bigotry.

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Speaker 3: And that's been the conversation.

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Speaker 2: And were longer in a space where we're having that conversation.

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Speaker 2: The left keeps trying to have it. The rest of

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Speaker 2: us are done, even Europeans are done, and Trump is

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Speaker 2: getting that. He's done too. We're all done. Why do

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Speaker 2: we have Why do we have the un on our shores?

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about that when we get back I'm Cura

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Speaker 2: Davis filing in for Tony Katz and you're listening to

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Speaker 2: Tony Kats Today. Welcome back, everybody to Tony Katz Today. Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: September twenty third, twenty is out. I'm your guest host,

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Speaker 2: Kira Davis, coming across the wires in the break. Jimmy

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Speaker 2: Kimmel's first guest tonight was rumored to be in California.

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Speaker 2: Governor California, my home state where I'm coming to you

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Speaker 2: from Gavin Newsom. That was supposed to be his first.

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Speaker 2: Now that would have been very appropriate because of all

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Speaker 2: the things I've been talked about today. Gavin Newsom is

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Speaker 2: doing his Trump light routine, and they're pretending that Jimmy

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Speaker 2: is some sacrifice on the left. The way that we

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Speaker 2: have our sacrifices on the right would make total sense.

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Speaker 2: But just now, Ashley Zavala, who is one of the

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Speaker 2: only honest reporters mainstream reporters in California, posted that Gavin

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Speaker 2: is not indeed, he is not going on Kimmel.

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Speaker 3: He's actually going.

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Speaker 2: To appear on the Colbert Show tonight on Colbert's Show,

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Speaker 2: and so she said it's been reported as Kimmel, but no,

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Speaker 2: it's Colbert. Now, that's what Ashley is saying. I guarantee

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Speaker 2: you that he was going on Kimmel. He would have

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Speaker 2: squashed that rumor. Yet those rumors have been flying around

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Speaker 2: since yesterday morning. His office would have corrected that if

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Speaker 2: it weren't true he was going on Kimmel. But Kimmel,

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Speaker 2: as we've talked about, this show is not coming back

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Speaker 2: to Sinclair Media stations or now to next Our stations.

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Speaker 2: This basically means there might be a few stations out there,

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Speaker 2: but this basically means that Kimmel's show, yeah, is getting reinstated,

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Speaker 2: but it's only going to be streaming on Disney services,

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Speaker 2: and we know the numbers for Disney streaming it's not great.

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Speaker 2: So guarantee I guarantee you that Newsom got the news

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Speaker 2: and switch targets because yeah, he has no no moral backbone.

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Speaker 2: And I also think that his I believe his press

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Speaker 2: secretary is going to be on Meet the Press this week.

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Speaker 2: She's doing some big show that she absolutely should not

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Speaker 2: be doing. I want to pivot again back to the

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Speaker 2: UN discussion and the United Nations and should we have

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Speaker 2: the United Nations on our shores And we've had this

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Speaker 2: discussion off and on over the years, and one argument

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Speaker 2: for keeping them on our shores, it's also an argument

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Speaker 2: I happen to agree with, is that it's it's better to,

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Speaker 2: you know, keep your enemies close kind of thing. If

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Speaker 2: we don't fund and host the UN, they'll go somewhere else,

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Speaker 2: and then we really won't have much control over the

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Speaker 2: things they do. And say, we're going to have a lot,

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Speaker 2: a lot less influence, I guess, less power. It does

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Speaker 2: put us in a position of authority to be the

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Speaker 2: seat of global governance. So I get that. But just

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Speaker 2: in keeping of the theme of today, which there is

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Speaker 2: no bottom, they're never going to change. And then keeping

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Speaker 2: with Trump's I think slight attitude shift. I mean, man

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Speaker 2: never changes that much, but you could see today is

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Speaker 2: just absolutely all the way done. I think that maybe

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Speaker 2: it's time to consider kicking the UN out. I know,

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Speaker 2: I agree that there are some downsides to that. I

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Speaker 2: definitely agree to that it is helpful to have this

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Speaker 2: global body housed in our country because it gives us

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Speaker 2: some measure of authority. But as president, as you heard

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Speaker 2: from Trump speaking, excuse me, we have no authority at

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Speaker 2: the UN. They do nothing for us In fact, the

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Speaker 2: UN is basically a giant spy agency. All those people

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Speaker 2: have diplomatic credentials, they spy, They commit crimes here, They

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Speaker 2: bring in family members that commit crimes. They abuse that

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Speaker 2: UN system so much the UN itself. Removing the UN

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Speaker 2: from New York City, I believe would remove a lot

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Speaker 2: of crime that we have going on, both at the

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Speaker 2: petty level and at the white collar level. I truly

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Speaker 2: believe that. But we've got another clip of Trump here.

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Speaker 2: Let's play this one real, real quick. We're talking about

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Speaker 2: the wars that he's ended, and just what the hell

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Speaker 2: has the UN done for us? Anyway, go ahead.

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Speaker 4: I ended seven wars, dealt with the leaders of each

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Speaker 4: and every one of these countries, and never even received

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Speaker 4: a phone call from the United Nations offering to help

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Speaker 4: in finalizing the deal. All I got from the United

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Speaker 4: Nations was an escalator that on the way up, stopped

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Speaker 4: right in the middle. If the first lady wasn't in

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Speaker 4: great shape, she would have fallen. But she's in great shape.

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Speaker 4: We're both in good shape. We've both stood. And then

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Speaker 4: a teleprompter that didn't work. This is These are the

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Speaker 4: two things I got from the United Nations. A bad

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Speaker 4: escalator and a bad teleprompter, thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: He's a builder, like the escalator better be working, y'all.

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Speaker 2: This guy built half of New York City and then

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Speaker 2: the teleproperter doesn't work. He doesn't like things that don't work.

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Speaker 2: He is a very particular man. Have you ever seen

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Speaker 2: him set himself up for an interview? There's some fascinating

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Speaker 2: video out there of him and just like, no, the

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Speaker 2: glass goes here. Maybe we need the coaster under the

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Speaker 2: water glass. Maybe not, maybe this maybe that you can

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Speaker 2: look at that and see it as shallow, or you

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Speaker 2: can look at it as a man who pays attention

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Speaker 2: to detail and wants everything perfect because he believes that's

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Speaker 2: what he deserves. But also that's what he believes the

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Speaker 2: America people deserve. We don't deserve whatever slop the UN

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Speaker 2: is giving us.

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Speaker 3: They just take advantage of us.

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Speaker 2: They take advantage of their ability to come and park

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Speaker 2: it in our country and enjoy the wonderful benefits of capitalism,

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Speaker 2: and then they do nothing but past resolution after resolution

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Speaker 2: against Israel and sometimes America. I think it's time for

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Speaker 2: the UN to go. We're done with all of this.

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Speaker 2: We're not negotiating anymore, and they do us no good.

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Speaker 2: I'm Kira Davis filling in for Tony Katz, and this

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Speaker 2: is Tony Kats Today.

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Speaker 1: Live from Vall Hartbert and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz Today.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody to hour two of Tony Katz Today.

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Speaker 2: Tony is out. I'm your guest host, Kira Davis, author

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Speaker 2: of Drawing Lines, Why Conservatives must begin to battle fiercely

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Speaker 2: in the arena of ideas. You can go follow me

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Speaker 2: on my substeck at just Karradavis dot substack dot com.

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Speaker 2: In the break, Kamala is at The View today, y'all.

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Speaker 2: She went to The View. I don't know if you

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Speaker 2: watched it. I know a lot of you are probably

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Speaker 2: religious viewers of the View. I know you watch it religiously,

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Speaker 2: as do we all, of course. I mean, who doesn't

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Speaker 2: want to start our day out with six screeching liberals.

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Speaker 3: M Kamala's on the book tour.

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Speaker 2: So she stopped by there and she made a little

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Speaker 2: comment about the UN speech this morning.

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Speaker 3: I'll just read to you what she said.

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Speaker 2: Katie Pavliche from town Hall posted the clip. It says,

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Speaker 2: this person, this is Kamala Harris talking this person. She's

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Speaker 2: talking about Trump at the UN. This person and what

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Speaker 2: we just saw in terms of a presentation at the

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Speaker 2: United Nations. They laughed at him last time. Do you

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Speaker 2: think they're not laughing now? And Katie Pavlage tweeted, I

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Speaker 2: am here and they are not laughing.

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Speaker 3: They actually look kind of terrified.

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Speaker 5: And so I.

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Speaker 2: Replied to Katie, That's exactly what it looked like from

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Speaker 2: my couch. They are they are concerned. Trump is not wrong.

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Speaker 2: He's just the first person to say out out, say

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Speaker 2: it out loud. They are in trouble, this whole immigration thing.

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Speaker 2: It's we were right the first time. It wasn't ever immigration.

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Speaker 2: It was an invasion. And all these countries have been invaded.

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Speaker 2: And how do we how do we stop that? You know,

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Speaker 2: we have policy, we have borders, we have a strong leader.

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Speaker 2: Those are the ways that we we you know, ice, deportations,

653
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Speaker 2: there's all that stuff we can do. But what about

654
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Speaker 2: the people who are already here and causing problems and

655
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 2: don't have a legal path to eject them. We have

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Speaker 2: a we have an Islam problem in the country. We

657
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Speaker 2: have a problem of Islam across the globe. That's what

658
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Speaker 2: the immigration problem is. It is an Islamic problem, and

659
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Speaker 2: because we have religious protections here in America, it's really

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Speaker 2: difficult to deal with, you know, our constitution and this

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Speaker 2: threat of Islam, which is not compatible with the Constitution.

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Speaker 3: I have been saying it everywhere.

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Speaker 2: I know it's kind of dangerous to say it, but

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Speaker 2: I just I think it's important. I want to read

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Speaker 2: this to you from Charles Murray. He is an economist

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Speaker 2: and a writer. I think I should state more explicitly

667
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Speaker 2: that what I think about assimilation and immigration. He talks

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Speaker 2: about how I won't read it all, but he talks

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Speaker 2: about how historically America did a great job of assimilating people.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't by accident. In the k through eight years,

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Speaker 2: we had a specific program of Americanism. Everyone had to

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Speaker 2: speak English. We had programs to assimilate these people. The

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Speaker 2: degree to which is simimilation among almost all groups still

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Speaker 2: occurs seems to me self evident in today's America. I

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Speaker 2: am pleasantly be mused by encountering so many people who

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Speaker 2: look so different from me, talking and behaving indistinguishably from

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Speaker 2: people I have known since I was a boy in

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Speaker 2: small Town, Iowa. But he goes on to say that

679
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Speaker 2: the great portentious issue about legal immigration legal he supports

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Speaker 2: the deportations of illegal involves observant Muslims. Islamic doctrine is

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Speaker 2: hostile to Western values. I realize that some observant Muslims

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Speaker 2: adopt more moderate views, but so far not enough, not

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Speaker 2: enough of them. It has been an empirical reality that

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Speaker 2: no Western country has admitted large numbers of observant Muslims

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Speaker 2: without experiencing serious problems that are directly related to Islam's

686
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 2: hostile hostility to Western values. It is also not clear

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Speaker 2: that the problem diminishes in the second or third generation

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Speaker 2: after immigration. It is not Islamophobic to ask that policymakers

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Speaker 2: reassess immag creation policy toward observant Muslims. It is a

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Speaker 2: legitimate issue prompted by a sober assessment of reality. I

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Speaker 2: believe that is the next step in our immigration woes.

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Speaker 2: We have to end all Muslim immigration we do, and

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Speaker 2: the ones that are here we have to assimilate. And

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Speaker 2: the ones that are here and they're on a bubble,

695
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Speaker 2: we have to figure out the legal bubble to get

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Speaker 2: them out. And just to be honest, but all that.

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Speaker 2: I want to say this, we can do all that stuff,

698
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Speaker 2: but you still don't have an answer to the question

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Speaker 2: that this gentleman was asking, which is what about the

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Speaker 2: legal ones? Right? And that's where I think what happened

701
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Speaker 2: on Sunday comes in. That's what I think what's been

702
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Speaker 2: happening in America for the last ten days comes in.

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Speaker 2: As we well now know, it was a turning point.

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Speaker 2: To coin the phrase, it was a turning point. And

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Speaker 2: on Sunday we saw hundreds of thousands of Americans gather

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Speaker 2: in one place, but millions, tens of millions, perhaps hundreds

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Speaker 2: of millions more worship right where they were, hold their

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Speaker 2: own vigils for Charlie Kirk. Worship worship the name of God,

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Speaker 2: the name that has been pushed out of the public square.

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Speaker 2: You know, that's the movement we are seeing. I have

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Speaker 2: long said that none of these changes will be permanent

712
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Speaker 2: if this country does not have revival, religious Christian revival.

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Speaker 2: I think even my Jewish friends agree with me. My

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Speaker 2: Jewish friends, not the kind who are supporting Hamas, not

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Speaker 2: the weirdo ones, But I think.

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Speaker 3: Even my Jewish friends agreed.

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Speaker 2: Like Tony, I know he agrees with that not necessarily

718
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Speaker 2: with the religious, you know, the spiritual aspect of it.

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Speaker 2: I know his beliefs are different, but he believes in

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Speaker 2: the benefit of Christianity to Western culture, and the evidence

721
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Speaker 2: of that is everywhere. It's impossible to ignore.

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Speaker 3: So it's going to be revival.

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Speaker 2: That is the final key, because because evil can't flourish

724
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Speaker 2: where there is Christ, where there is God, you know,

725
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 2: where there is that, they're filling that space, right, So

726
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 2: we've left a vacuum. Islam has filled that vacuum, and

727
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 2: it's filling the vacuum a lot in Europe, and the

728
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 2: vacuum has to get filled by something else, and then

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Speaker 2: I think we will see. And I don't mean to

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Speaker 2: say that that's going to end up in some kind

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Speaker 2: of crusades.

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Speaker 3: That's don't get me wrong, That's not what I mean.

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Speaker 2: I just think, how do I put this aura wise,

734
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Speaker 2: energy wise, spiritually wise. What's going to happen is the

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Speaker 2: American psyche is not going to have room for Islam

736
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Speaker 2: the way we never did, the same way we didn't before,

737
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Speaker 2: and it'll eventually just die itself and it'll become something

738
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Speaker 2: on the fringes, which is what it always was here.

739
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Speaker 2: If revival is genuine. So that's what I think has

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Speaker 2: to happen someone trying to have a little bit of

741
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Speaker 2: a revival, as Kamala Harris, she's trying to revive her career.

742
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Speaker 2: I don't know how you do that. She is a disaster.

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Speaker 2: And you would think after going through what she went through,

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Speaker 2: which you know, if I'm being generous, everything she did

745
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 2: she did to herself. But if I'm being generous, you know,

746
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Speaker 2: her back was up against a wall on a lot

747
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Speaker 2: of things. She really didn't have a lot of room

748
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Speaker 2: to move. But again, she put herself in that situation,

749
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Speaker 2: so you know, you get, you reap what you saw. Kamala,

750
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Speaker 2: you would think that she learned a little in that

751
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Speaker 2: time right that she she went away, had some wine,

752
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 2: played some games with her nieces, did a little traveling,

753
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Speaker 2: You'll do the eat prey love thing, you know, go

754
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Speaker 2: find yourself girl. You would think that that's what she's

755
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Speaker 2: been doing this whole time, and learning learning from her mistakes.

756
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Speaker 2: Maybe a better person would take that really crazy experience

757
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Speaker 2: and turn it into power, turn it into something that

758
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Speaker 2: makes you valuable and unstoppable, maybe like a normal person would, but.

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Speaker 3: Not Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 2: She is out there giving word salads like nobody's business.

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Speaker 2: I want to go to a break, but before we

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Speaker 2: go to a break, we'll play this clip of her

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Speaker 2: and then we'll head out right.

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Speaker 3: To the break.

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Speaker 2: So landon. Once the clip is done, you can just

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Speaker 2: take it to break. This is Tony Kat's show. I'm

767
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Speaker 2: Kia Davis filling in for Tony Kats. I want to

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Speaker 2: play Kamala talking about Antifa. Listen to this word salad

769
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Speaker 2: and we'll break it down on the other side of

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Speaker 2: the break.

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Speaker 6: We've also now in an executive order today, having we've

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Speaker 6: got the president describing Antifa the anti fascist it's not

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Speaker 6: even really a movement, the anti fascist tactics of a

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Speaker 6: portion of the protest movement as a domestic terrorist organization.

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Speaker 6: What is your reaction to those things? What do you

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Speaker 6: think the appropriate response is to.

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Speaker 5: Things like that? Well, in normal times, we should and

778
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Speaker 5: could expect that courts would step in when asked to

779
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:15,479
Speaker 5: declare the legality or illegality of what the president is doing,

780
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Speaker 5: because you know, civics one oh one. We all know

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Speaker 5: we've designed our democracy to the three co equal branches

782
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Speaker 5: of government, the executive, the legislative.

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Speaker 2: And the courts.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back everybody.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, I just got distracted listening to a little Pat Benattar.

786
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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Tony Kats today. I'm Kia Davis fieling in

787
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Speaker 2: for my good friend Tony Katz. You can look me

788
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 2: up on Axent Real Kiara Davis, and you should definitely

789
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 2: go get my book Drawing Lines Why Conservatives Must Begin

790
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 2: to Battle fiercely in the Arena of Ideas is a

791
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 2: couple of years old, now endorsed by FBI Deputy Director

792
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Speaker 2: Dan Bongino. Go get that because, as Dan says, is

793
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 2: right on the front, because of course my publisher wanted

794
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 2: to put that endorsement on the front. It says a

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Speaker 2: no holds barred battle battle plan for conservatives, And that's

796
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 2: really what it is, a battle plan for seizing back

797
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,399
Speaker 2: to culture, which I feel like we are right now

798
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Speaker 2: in the middle of that battle plan.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's get back to Kamala Harre. It's good

800
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Speaker 3: old Cammie.

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Speaker 2: I did you, guys the wonderful service of letting you

802
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Speaker 2: go to break on her voice.

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Speaker 3: Sorry about that.

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Speaker 2: It's Halloween season, so it's the season of tricks and treats.

805
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 2: But is that not just the wordiest most saladiest word

806
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Speaker 2: salad you have ever heard. What has this woman been

807
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 2: doing for eight months? Is it boggles the mind that

808
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 2: she has not been able to take anything like that.

809
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 2: What she went through is really one of the most unique,

810
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 2: most trying, most difficult experiences any American public servant can

811
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Speaker 2: go through.

812
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 3: It really is.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that is the upper echelon of political trials,

814
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Speaker 2: and she really did go through it like lover or hater.

815
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Speaker 2: She was taking fire from both sides. That was stressful.

816
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Speaker 2: A normal person, a thinking person, an intelligent person, would

817
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 2: come out of that experience a deeper person right, with

818
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 2: a lot more depth and thought, thoughtfulness. Look at our president,

819
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 2: everybody says, is he says this? He changed after he

820
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 2: was shot in Butler, that experience and watching one of

821
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Speaker 2: his supporters lose his life at that same rally while

822
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 2: he was protecting his family. We don't talk about Corey

823
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Speaker 2: comfromentorial enough. Watching that it changed him.

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Speaker 3: And when he.

825
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Speaker 2: Took office, we all noticed he's a more somber and

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Speaker 2: serious version of himself. He's still himself, He's still very trumpy,

827
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 2: but there was there was a sobriety about him that

828
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Speaker 2: we didn't see in the first term, a heaviness, he

829
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 2: learned some things, he absorbs some things. Kambla has done nothing.

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Speaker 2: She's just she's completely it's just a complete, blank slate

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Speaker 2: from top to bottom. It's just incredible to watch. She

832
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 2: was never there. She was never there, you guys. She

833
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 2: never was the thing. She really did sleep her way

834
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Speaker 2: to the top. And I know that feels uncomfortable for

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Speaker 2: a lot of people to say. I've been a lot

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00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 2: of conservatives. I'll say conservative pundits don't want to say it, y'all.

837
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 2: Normy's out there, don't mind saying it.

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Speaker 3: I hear a lot of jokes.

839
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Speaker 2: But for those of us who are on area and

840
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 2: we have to have a little decorum, and a lot

841
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 2: of us feel uncomfortable about it.

842
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 3: But you know what, I.

843
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 2: Think sometimes there's a difference between salaciousness and the truth.

844
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 2: And when the truth is self evident, it's right there,

845
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 2: right in front of you. I wrote an article about

846
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 2: Fannie Will. It's remember her, you guys, remember that one

847
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 2: time the Democrats tried to impeach Donald Trump, and they

848
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 2: thought this black prosecutor in Atlanta was going to be

849
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,800
Speaker 2: their key to everything. And of course she folded into

850
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 2: a million pieces like she always was. I wrote an article,

851
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Speaker 2: I did a little podcast actually, and why it's obvious

852
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 2: to me she was a DEI hire, not because she's

853
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 2: not because she's black, and I'm looking at her, going, oh,

854
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 2: she must be the DEI higher. All of Atlanta as black, right,

855
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 2: All of her jurisdiction is black. Everyone in her office

856
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 2: is black. So do I think everyone was a DEI hire? No,

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00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 2: she was because you can see the patterns and how

858
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 2: she speaks, and the decisions she's made, and the idiocy

859
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 2: that she displays at every turn. Stephen A Smith from

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Speaker 2: ESPN got on my case about it. He ripped me

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Speaker 2: a new one for that one. I asked to have

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Speaker 2: a in person discussion, but he didn't want to. He

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00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 2: didn't want to do that, called me a sellout, called

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Speaker 2: me an uncle, Tom, called me all all that typical stuff.

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Speaker 2: My whole point is this, I was right because I

866
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 2: saw the patterns. There was no there there. She was

867
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 2: an idiot, sounded like an idiot, and when I called

868
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 2: her out for it, I was called the idiot. But

869
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 2: I'm proven right. Kamala hair same way. Not only is

870
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 2: she an idiot, but she slept her way to the top.

871
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 2: And that's why when she talks, she doesn't make sense

872
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 2: because she was never really smart in the first place.

873
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 2: She was just savvy. There's something to be said for that.

874
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,439
Speaker 2: By the way, she savvied her way all the way

875
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 2: to the Oval office. She almost sat in that seat.

876
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 2: So I have a lot of criticians for Kamala. I

877
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 2: certainly don't like her. I don't even like her enough

878
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 2: to say her name the right way. But credit where

879
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 2: credit is due. That woman is savvy, so not for nothing,

880
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 2: and that's why I'm saying, I'm grossly disappointed that she

881
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 2: wasn't able to learn anything from this experience and use

882
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,439
Speaker 2: it to make herself powerful, make herself big. That's why

883
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 2: the Democrats keep losing. They're stupid. They want everything handed

884
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 2: to them, and the way they get everything handed to

885
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 2: them is for us to step back and even pushing

886
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:01,760
Speaker 2: us back and pushing us back.

887
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 3: For decades now.

888
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,280
Speaker 2: And we've been stepping back in the name of kindness,

889
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 2: in the name of politeness, in the name of America whatever,

890
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 2: in the name of keeping the peace. And now Charlie

891
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 2: Kirk is dead. That's how they win, right. They don't

892
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 2: have any real ideas. They don't have any real solutions.

893
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 2: They don't even have a moral compass. All they have

894
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:31,240
Speaker 2: is cheap fakes, imitations, and bullying. The reason why Katie

895
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 2: Pavlich said that the people at the UN looked nervous

896
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 2: when Trump was talking today is because they know the

897
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 2: days of their bullying are over, and they're scared because

898
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 2: they have nothing else. They can't serve their own citizens,

899
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,760
Speaker 2: and they can't answer their own citizens, so they censor

900
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 2: their own citizens, They arrest their own citizens, They spit

901
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 2: on their own citizens, they tear down the flags of

902
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,439
Speaker 2: their own citizen since in their own countries. They do

903
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 2: that because they have no substance, they have nothing to

904
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 2: stand on. So when Donald Trump comes there and said,

905
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 2: you guys are such losers. Not only are you trashing

906
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,800
Speaker 2: your own countries, you can't even keep the escalator working,

907
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 2: they know that it's about to rain down on them.

908
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:25,760
Speaker 2: He had some harsh words for Russia too. He's about

909
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 2: done with all that they know, and the left knows,

910
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 2: and that's why they're out there making Jimmy Kimmel.

911
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 3: They're Jesus Christ.

912
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:43,879
Speaker 2: And throwing protests for a millionaire and marching and protesting

913
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 2: against law and order. Marching and protesting for rapists and

914
00:52:50,560 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 2: criminals and child sex traffickers. There is no bottom. There's

915
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 2: no bottom. We're never going to find it with them.

916
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 2: So we have three solutions revolt, which happened in November.

917
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 2: We one, thank god, reform, reforming everything, and I'll add

918
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 2: a second R to that, Republicans. I'm not a Republican

919
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 2: Party loyalist. You have to earn my vote the way

920
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 2: the Democrat Party did when I was a Democrat. Well

921
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 2: they didn't. That's why I left. But we need republic

922
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 2: We need more Republicans at this point in our two

923
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 2: party system.

924
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 3: That's what we need. And revival, that's the third piece.

925
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 2: Revival is the third piece because people's hearts are going

926
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 2: to have to be changed because there is no bottom

927
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 2: with these people. They're just going to have to land

928
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 2: on Jesus, you know what I'm saying, like land on

929
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 2: that soft cushion because they're not there. There is no

930
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,959
Speaker 2: bottom here, there.

931
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 3: Is no depth they won't sink to.

932
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 2: And they don't have the capacity or the ability to

933
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 2: reason or logic or to act. That's what Donald Trump

934
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 2: is to them. He is reason, he is logic, he

935
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:15,800
Speaker 2: is action packaged up in a very strange looking man.

936
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,800
Speaker 2: We're all finished with this, you know. And if Kamla

937
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 2: had any sense she would get that, she would read

938
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 2: the room. My goodness, I don't even know why I'm

939
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 2: trying to tell Democrats how to win. They wouldn't take

940
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 2: my voice's advice in the first place. But I don't

941
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 2: want them to win. But my goodness. If I was

942
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 2: Kamala Harris and I thought, yeah, I do want to

943
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 2: have a career in politics still, which she obviously does,

944
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 2: I don't know why.

945
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 3: Well, I would go and I would take that experience.

946
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 2: I would get a coach, a life coach, and figure

947
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 2: out how to turn that experience into some kind of

948
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 2: speaking to her, some kind of power, some kind of policy,

949
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 2: some kind of think tang. She's got nothing but jib

950
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 2: or jabber gobbly gook. All right, we'll come back with

951
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 2: more gobly googack for the break. I'm Kira Davis for

952
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 2: Tony Kats and this is Tony Kats Today. Welcome back

953
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 2: everybody to Tony Kats Today. I'm your host, your guest host,

954
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 2: Kia Davis, filling in for Tony Kats. If you'd like

955
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 2: to know more about me, go over to my Instagram.

956
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 2: If you're on Instagram. I'm trying to use that a

957
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:23,760
Speaker 2: little more lately. It's just Kia Davis. Just Kia Davis.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

959
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 3: We've been talking about.

960
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 2: Kamala Harris. Her name sounds like a sad trombone just

961
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 2: all the time.

962
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 3: I just hear it whenever.

963
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 2: Sary I warrant. She showed up on the View this morning,

964
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 2: and so while we're talking, she's been on the View,

965
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 2: and I've been keeping an eye on the clips. Now

966
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 2: we know that that infamous the comment heard around the

967
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 2: country where they add They asked her Sunny host and

968
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 2: asked her, was there anything you would do different from

969
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 2: President Biden? And she said, no, Ellen, I Ken, nothing

970
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 2: comes to mind. Listen, she was going to lose anyway.

971
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 2: It was a disaster from the start. But that really

972
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 2: was the death now for her side, in particular because

973
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 2: obviously her voters did not want Joe Biden. They wanted

974
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 2: a change. So I don't think that's what they were

975
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 2: expecting to hear, and that's what sealed her fate with

976
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 2: her base, I believe. Well, it turns out she's talking

977
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:24,319
Speaker 2: a little bit about that on the View.

978
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 3: So a clip popped.

979
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 2: Up on X. We're going to play the clips about

980
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 2: two minutes, so I'm not exactly sure how long it's

981
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 2: going to take to get here, but what we're going

982
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 2: to do is we're going to play it, and then

983
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 2: I'll have our producers stop it when we've gone long enough.

984
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:38,839
Speaker 2: But let's hear they ask her about this infamous question.

985
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 2: I really think we should listen to this because this

986
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 2: was the shot heard around the world. Let's hear what

987
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 2: she has to say. Go ahead and play the CLIPID.

988
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 7: Were there glaring warning signs that when there's only two

989
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 7: options to vote on that you missed going into election day.

990
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 5: You know, I write about it, as you all know,

991
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:55,879
Speaker 5: in the book, and I know that's probably the first

992
00:56:55,960 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 5: chapter you read as my chapter on the view. But

993
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:09,359
Speaker 5: really the book is about a reflection, and that day

994
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 5: in that interview, for me, really was symbolic of the issue.

995
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 5: It did not create the issue, but it was symbolic

996
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 5: of the issue, which is that I'm.

997
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 2: A loyal person.

998
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 5: And I didn't fully appreciate how much people wanted to

999
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 5: know there was a difference between me and President Biden.

1000
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 5: I thought it was obvious, and I didn't want to

1001
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 5: offer a difference in a way that would be received

1002
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 5: or suggested to be a criticism. And you know, in

1003
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 5: the campaign full time, I was pointing out the differences

1004
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 5: my theory of the case. We need to bring costs down.

1005
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 5: We're going to extend the child tax credit. We're going

1006
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 5: to have Medicare cover home health care for people, including

1007
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 5: people in the Sandwich generation who are raising young children

1008
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 5: and taking care of their parents. It was about we're

1009
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 5: going to take on price gouging, bringing down costs.

1010
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 2: Okay, you can stop there, I don't you can stop.

1011
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 2: I don't need her to relitigate her campaign. We know

1012
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 2: what you didn't stand for her? Why don't you? That

1013
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 2: was that was interesting to hear. A couple of things

1014
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 2: stood out to me. I'll say something nice. I do

1015
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 2: think she is sincere, because I've read a couple of

1016
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 2: other books inside books of like the insider account of

1017
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 2: the campaigns Now, they're all very juicy, but I think

1018
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 2: the thing that struck me as authentic there. One of

1019
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 2: the few things is that she said I didn't want

1020
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 2: to come off as being critical. And that's one of

1021
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,439
Speaker 2: the thing the themes that I'm kind of getting from

1022
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 2: all of the insider reading that I've been doing.

1023
00:58:58,680 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 3: Is that part?

1024
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 2: Well, the largest part of the problem is that. And this, honestly,

1025
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 2: it does go back to that way. Kamla got to

1026
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 2: where she is. She got to where she is by

1027
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 2: pleasing men, and she wasn't sleeping with Biden. I really

1028
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 2: don't think so. But it's still that mindset right of like,

1029
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 2: I've got to be loyal, I've got to be the

1030
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 2: loyal girl. I've got to be the good time girl,

1031
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 2: and I've got to be the cool girl. I'm the

1032
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 2: cool chick. I'm not like your wife. I'm the cool chick.

1033
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 2: And that is that same attitude towards Joe Biden. I

1034
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 2: really do think she felt very loyal to the Biden family.

1035
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 2: I really do. I don't think she trusted them, but

1036
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 2: I think she felt loyalty and if she held on

1037
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 2: to that loyalty that it would take her to the

1038
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 2: highest office in the land. So I really do believe

1039
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 2: that she thought, I don't want to say this out,

1040
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 2: any of this stuff out loud to Joe because it

1041
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 2: will be she knows the Biden family, it will be

1042
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 2: taken as criticism. It'll it'll look like I'm disloyal and

1043
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 2: loyalty is the currency in the Biden regime, in the

1044
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 2: Biden family. That's one thing that stood out. I believe

1045
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 2: that's one of the only truthful things she said. She

1046
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 2: was scared to be honest about how she was feeling

1047
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 2: about his campaign and her coming in because she didn't

1048
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 2: want to seem like it was self serving, which of

1049
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 2: course it would have been self serving.

1050
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 3: The other thing that she said that stood.

1051
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 2: Out to me and made me laugh in the middle

1052
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 2: of it was was that she thought the difference was obvious.

1053
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 2: She I thought, now, that's inauthentic, right, of course, that's

1054
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 2: the inauthentic kambala.

1055
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 3: But this is what she said.

1056
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 2: You can only go on.

1057
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 3: What she said.

1058
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 2: She said, I thought it was obvious what the differences are,

1059
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 2: and then she wouldn't have to articulate that. She said,

1060
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:48,919
Speaker 2: I was running and then she started to go down

1061
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 2: that list.

1062
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 3: I was running on.

1063
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 2: Extending the child tax credit and expanding Medicare and nothing

1064
01:00:56,440 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 2: that any American was asking for, nothing and everything that

1065
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 2: every other Democrat always says when you ask them how

1066
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 2: they're going to help Americans restore the American dream. But

1067
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 2: that's but these are robots. I'm sorry to scream at

1068
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 2: you let me get out of my higher register. You

1069
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 2: haven't done anything wrong to me, audience, so sorry. They're zombies.

1070
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:24,200
Speaker 2: There is no bottom. They're never gonna get it. We

1071
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 2: can't negotiate with them. There's no more persuasion to be had. Listen,

1072
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 2: if you're a fan of my podcast, my old podcast,

1073
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 2: just listen to yourself, which is now archived. I no

1074
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 2: longer do that podcast. I shut the doors of that

1075
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 2: podcast this summer. It's a persuasion podcast, and I no

1076
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 2: longer believe that I am equipped to persuade people who

1077
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 2: have no bottom. So I need to rethink whol Kira

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Speaker 2: Davis is and what her voice is on the internets,

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Speaker 2: and if you want to hear it, I do record sometimes.

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01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 2: If you want to hear my voice more of me,

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01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 2: and go to my substack, you sign up for that.

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01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 2: I do the Curra Davis Show over that over there

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01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 2: right now. But it's an informal podcast, but you can

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01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 2: find it and hear me rambling and ranting and rating.

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01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 2: But this is my point, there's no persuasion left to

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Speaker 2: be had. CaMLA, she doesn't get it, she doesn't want

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Speaker 2: to get it. She never got it, even now, even

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Speaker 2: now after Charlie's assassination, after that whole bizarre campaign, after

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Speaker 2: eight months of the Trump administration, after terror attacks and

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Speaker 2: and you know, closing the border, all the successes we've

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Speaker 2: had in DC solving crime. Even now, after all we've

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Speaker 2: been through, she can't do anything but go beep beep,

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Speaker 2: medicare bet beat for child text credit, be beep. You

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Speaker 2: know what, I'm robots. She can't say, Oh, you know

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Speaker 2: what I learned on the campaign trail, I saw the

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01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 2: American people hurting, and I realized that the solutions I

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01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 2: was giving, even though I believe that they could work

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01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 2: and they were good solutions, I didn't understand that the

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Speaker 2: American people were asking for something different, Like what a

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Speaker 2: golden opportunity? Like the Democrats are fulailing, they are sinking,

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01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 2: they're burning alive. Choose your metaphor, like now is the time. Sorry,

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Speaker 2: I'm turning into California here, and.

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Speaker 3: With all my likes, I try not to do that.

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Speaker 3: It's very hard.

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Speaker 2: It's part of the accent. Now is the time for

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Speaker 2: someone to step forward and fill this vacuum in the

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Speaker 2: Democrat Party. This void right now is being filled by

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Speaker 2: the Mandans and the aocs, and if anyone was clever enough.

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Speaker 2: Gavin Knewsome kind of gets it right. He's kind of

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Speaker 2: understanding he's doing something. It's all the wrong things. And

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01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 2: don't get me wrong. Everything they try is going to

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01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 2: be wrong because they're wrong. What they believe is wrong.

1113
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 2: Their solutions are wrong, their core values are wrong. So

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01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 2: everything they do is going to be wrong. But at

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Speaker 2: least be small, and Gavin's at least being smart about it. Okay,

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Speaker 2: the party needs a leader. I'm going to step up

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01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 2: and do what I think. You know, my version of

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01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 2: what I think a leader looks like. At least he's

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01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 2: trying something. If you were smart, That's what I would do.

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Speaker 2: If I was Kamala Harris, Thank God, Thank you God.

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Speaker 2: I'm not thank you for making me Kira Davis. If

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Speaker 2: I was Kamala Harris, I would have taken that time

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Speaker 2: to reflect, to be sober and to I would have

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Speaker 2: figured out how to pivot. Being the first black Asian

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Speaker 2: south of Pacific, whatever the hell they call her, whatever

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Speaker 2: I heard or refer to herself as black today, for

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Speaker 2: the first time, I've actually never heard her say it. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so as a black whatever woman, that's historical, right, Whatever

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Speaker 2: you think of her, that's historical. There's some political capital there,

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Speaker 2: especially on the left. Take that and come back and go, look,

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Speaker 2: this is what I've learned. I was on the campaign

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01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 2: trail talking to the American people, and I saw they

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01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 2: didn't get what we were selling them, and we need

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01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 2: a different approach. Like an intelligent person could take that

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Speaker 2: and become one of the most powerful women in America.

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01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 2: And instead she's on the view trying to explain why

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Speaker 2: she didn't want to be mean to Joe Biden. And

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Speaker 2: you know who the most powerful woman in America is

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Speaker 2: right now, Erica kirk Cama. Couldn't even come close to that.

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Speaker 2: She has no clue what that type of power is

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Speaker 2: about and how you even get there.

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Speaker 3: What a loser. What a loser.

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Speaker 2: And I say that with all disappointment, because there's a

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Speaker 2: certain part of me that has a begrudging respect for

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01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 2: the way she's been able to propel herself to the top.

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01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 2: I mean, that's focus. She's just turned out to be

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01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 2: a giant loser and a disappointment. And she is a

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01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 2: lovely symbol for the depth of the Democrat Party. Another

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Speaker 2: symbol Jasmine Crockett. I've got a clip coming up I

1150
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 2: want to play that for you and talk about her,

1151
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:00,440
Speaker 2: because you can never get enough Jasmine.

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01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 3: But let's take a break.

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01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:03,360
Speaker 2: I'm Kia David's filling in for Tony Katz and you're

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01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 2: listening to Tony Katz Today. Welcome back, everybody to Tony

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01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 2: Katz Today. I'm your guests. How's Kia Davis filling in

1156
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 2: for my friend Tony. You can follow me on ex

1157
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 2: at Real Kira Davis. Go buy my book Drawing Lines

1158
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 2: Why Conservatives must begin a battle fiercely in the arena

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01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 2: of ideas. Let's let's play. Let's let's keep playing the hits.

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Speaker 2: We can't leave poor old Jasmine Crockett behind. I mean,

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Speaker 2: if we don't talk about her, who's going to talk

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01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 2: about her? And we know this woman's only goal is

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Speaker 2: to be talked about. At break, our producer asked, how

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01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 2: did she get to where she is? How did she

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01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 2: get the seat? And her seat in Texas is one

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Speaker 2: of those seats that got drawn in, so she's a

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Speaker 2: new hire basically, and I believe her seat is one

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Speaker 2: of the ones that's going away in the new reday

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Speaker 2: stricting maps over there. So she I went to keep

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Speaker 2: in mind as you listen to this next clip of

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01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:07,919
Speaker 2: her that she's auditioning for her next job. You can

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Speaker 2: tell because she's had a little bit of a makeover

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Speaker 2: as well. She got a new weave. Okay, so her

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Speaker 2: weave is looking a lot better than it has been

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Speaker 2: in the past. I got to say, it's been looking

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Speaker 2: kind of nappy. Girl. So she got herself a new weave,

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Speaker 2: and she's definitely on the weight loss meds because she's

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Speaker 2: dropped a few pounds. So she's definitely auditioning for her

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Speaker 2: next gig. So she went on to Charlemagne The Breakfast

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Speaker 2: Club with Charlemagne. I hate seeing his full name. I

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Speaker 2: refuse his full chosen name. She's on there with Charlemagne

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Speaker 2: talking about Charlie Kirk and basically talking about how she's

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Speaker 2: the real victim.

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Speaker 3: Here, go ahead and play that clip.

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Speaker 7: I can tell you that a month prior to him

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Speaker 7: passing away, he had actually gotten out on his podcast.

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Speaker 7: I wasn't aware of this at the time, but he

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01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 7: got out there and he was talking negatively about me directly.

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Speaker 7: So if there was any way that I was going

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Speaker 7: to honor somebody who decided that they were just going

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Speaker 7: to negatively talk about me and proclaim that I was

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Speaker 7: somehow involved in the Great White Replacements. Yeah, I'm not

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Speaker 7: honoring that kind of stuff, especially as a civil rights

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Speaker 7: attorney and understanding how I got to Congress knowing that

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Speaker 7: there were people that died, people that were willing to die,

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Speaker 7: that worked to make sure that voices like mine could

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Speaker 7: exist in this place. So to me, just like we

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Speaker 7: wanted to make sure that those Confederate relics were taken down,

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Speaker 7: the idea of a new Age relic being propped up

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Speaker 7: was something that I just couldnot subscribe to. And it

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Speaker 7: is unfortunate that more of my colleagues, even on my

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Speaker 7: side of the aisle, could not see the amount of

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Speaker 7: harm that this man was attempting to inflict upon our communities.

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Speaker 8: Charlie Kirk is dead, and see the amount of harm

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Speaker 8: that this man was attempting to He was harming all

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Speaker 8: this talk about all the harm Charlie was doing.

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Speaker 2: He's the only one who's dead here. And by the way,

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Speaker 2: Miss Crockett, he did not pass away. He was assassinated

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Speaker 2: by someone espousing the very views that you espouse every

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Speaker 2: day on the floor of Congress. Take one million seats,

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Speaker 2: you absolute trash human being.

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Speaker 3: This woman deserves everything that's coming to her.

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Speaker 2: She had the nerve to say, especially considering how I

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Speaker 2: got to Congress and all the people who fought and

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01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:41,799
Speaker 2: died so that I could have those opportunities. They would

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01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:44,760
Speaker 2: die all over again if they saw exactly what it

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Speaker 2: was they fought for. They will roll over and die

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01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:54,680
Speaker 2: to look at you and say and see you. They

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01:09:54,720 --> 01:10:00,800
Speaker 2: would be so embarrassed. What a useless sacrifice for a

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01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 2: useless human being, for a useless congresswoman. I don't want

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01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:06,880
Speaker 2: to say she's a useless human being. I don't know

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Speaker 2: what other service she does through in the rest of

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Speaker 2: her life. In the interest of bringing the heat down

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01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 2: a little bit, I'll just say that she is useless

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Speaker 2: in her function as a congresswoman. She's obviously auditioning for

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Speaker 2: the next job. But this is what they're all doing again.

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Speaker 2: This goes back to the Jimmy Kimmel thing. They are

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01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 2: such narcissists. Everything is about them. Have you seen Van

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Speaker 2: Jones out there this week on CNNA and he's trying

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01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 2: to be magnanimous, He's trying to be nice. Some of

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01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 2: you are falling for it. I suggest you go look

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01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 2: at Megan Kelly's monologue on Van Jones from yesterday. Some

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01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 2: of you are falling for it, but it's the same old,

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01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:50,479
Speaker 2: same old. He is making himself the victim. I got

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Speaker 2: death threats after talking to Charlie. Jasmine's the victim. Jimmy's

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01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 2: the victim, not the real victim who's dead. All right,

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Speaker 2: I don't mean to yell you. I'm sorry, keep be

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01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 2: on you. Let's take a break. I'm Kia Davis. I'm

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01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:23,760
Speaker 2: filling in for Tony Katz and this is Tony Katz Today.

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Speaker 1: Live from ball Hartbeyer and the Crossroads of America. It's

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01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 1: Tony Katz Today.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody to Tony Katz Today.

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01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 3: I'm your guest host Kia Davis.

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01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:35,519
Speaker 2: Tony's out today, but we're having fun together as usual.

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01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:38,559
Speaker 2: Thanks for all of your support and kind messages. People

1246
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 2: reach out to me often on x at Real Kira

1247
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 2: Davis if you want to what I'm on the show,

1248
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:45,640
Speaker 2: just to say they love it when I fill in,

1249
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 2: and I appreciate every message, every word. It is very encouraging.

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01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:52,639
Speaker 2: So thank you, and it's always a pleasure to be here.

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Speaker 2: As I've already said, well, I don't want to move

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01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 2: on from Camela before we play this other clip from

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Speaker 2: her interview with Rachel Maddow last night, and she was

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01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 2: asked about her choice for running mate. This is another controversy.

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Speaker 2: I think we all I think we all looked at

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01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 2: the field, you know, they had, they were scrambling to

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Speaker 2: put this campaign together. I think we all looked at

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Speaker 2: the Democrat field, saw who she ended up choosing, and thought,

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01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 2: what on earth, there's just all these other people that

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Speaker 2: she passed over that would that seems like it would

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01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 2: have made a lot more sense, again not necessarily for

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Speaker 2: us as Republicans and conservatives, but at least more sense

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Speaker 2: for her as a Democrat. And then she got this.

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Speaker 3: Really weird guy.

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01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:43,800
Speaker 2: It's just everything is so guys again, just going back

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01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 2: to the theme, like there's no bottom.

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Speaker 3: Everything on that side is fake and weird.

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Speaker 2: Right now. They can't be trusted with anything, they don't

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01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:55,800
Speaker 2: understand anything. I'm starting to wonder if they're even run

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Speaker 2: by humans over there, because everything they do is like

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01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:01,639
Speaker 2: a carbon copp It's like a copy of a human.

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Speaker 2: It's like, this is what I think humans would do.

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Speaker 3: This is what I think a personable female would look like.

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01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 2: This is what I think a jolly a joyful male

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01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:15,760
Speaker 2: would look like it's so bizarre, it's so weird. So

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01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:19,320
Speaker 2: the Timwall thing was I think I think he was

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01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 2: a stone around her neck from the beginning. I'll tell

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01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:25,080
Speaker 2: you why I think she picked him.

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Speaker 3: After this clip.

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Speaker 2: But I want to play this clip because Rachel Maddow,

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Speaker 2: and this is radio, you can't see her. So I'm

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01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:32,599
Speaker 2: going to tell you what her face is doing before

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01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:36,080
Speaker 2: so you can picture it as you're listening to this clip.

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01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:39,720
Speaker 2: Rachel Maddow, who is a lesbian, asks Kamala about who

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Speaker 2: she picked for VP, why she didn't Peek pick Pete Budah,

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Speaker 2: Judge mayor Pete. And as she's answering, Rachel's face is dropping,

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Speaker 2: and if I could add a script to her face,

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01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 2: the script would be, oh my gosh, this woman is

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01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:58,720
Speaker 2: stupid and we did really screw this up. That's the

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01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 2: impression I got. Maybe I'm reading into it because of

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01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:03,120
Speaker 2: my bias. Let's go ahead and play the quinte.

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Speaker 6: If his reaction to that, since this part of the

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01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:08,960
Speaker 6: book has come out, if you've had any reflection on that,

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01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 6: or I guess, I guess I'd ask you to just

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01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:16,400
Speaker 6: elaborate on that a little bit it's hard to hear

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01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:20,080
Speaker 6: with you running as you know, you're the first woman

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01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:22,840
Speaker 6: elected vice president, you're a black woman and a South

1298
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:26,839
Speaker 6: Asian woman elected that high office, very nearly elected president,

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01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:29,080
Speaker 6: to say that he couldn't be on the ticket effectively

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01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:30,680
Speaker 6: because he was gay, it's hard to hear.

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01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 5: No, No, that's not what I said. That that's that he

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01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 5: couldn't be on the ticket because he is gay. My point,

1303
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 5: as I write in the book, is that I was

1304
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 5: clear that in one hundred and seven days, in one

1305
01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:51,759
Speaker 5: of the most hotly contested elections for president and United States,

1306
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 5: against someone like Donald Trump, who knows no floor, to

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01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:01,680
Speaker 5: be a black woman running for president United States and

1308
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 5: as a vice presidential running mate a gay man, with

1309
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:12,360
Speaker 5: the stakes being so high, it made me very sad,

1310
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:15,799
Speaker 5: But I also realized it would be a real risk

1311
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:21,559
Speaker 5: no matter how you know. I've been an advocate and

1312
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:25,800
Speaker 5: an ally of the LGBT community my entire life, So

1313
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 5: it wasn't about it wasn't about it right, So it

1314
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:33,599
Speaker 5: wasn't about any any prejudice on my part. But short

1315
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:38,280
Speaker 5: we had such a short period of time and the

1316
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:43,760
Speaker 5: stakes were so high. I think Pete is a phenomenal

1317
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:51,160
Speaker 5: phenomenal public servant, and I think America is and would

1318
01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 5: be ready for that. But when I had to make

1319
01:15:56,240 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 5: that decision with two weeks to go, you know, and

1320
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:04,519
Speaker 5: maybe I was being too cautious. You know, I'll let

1321
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 5: our friends, we should all.

1322
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:06,600
Speaker 2: Talk about that.

1323
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 5: Maybe I was, but that's the decision I made, and

1324
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:14,000
Speaker 5: I'm and I, as with everything else in the book,

1325
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:18,760
Speaker 5: and being very candid about that, Yeah, with a great

1326
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:23,639
Speaker 5: deal of sadness about also the fact that it might

1327
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 5: have been a risk.

1328
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 2: Okay, So I don't know, did you hear what I heard?

1329
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 2: I thought she said that she couldn't take mere Peon

1330
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:36,920
Speaker 2: as her running mate because he's gay.

1331
01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 3: Pretty sure that's what she said. She was like, no,

1332
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:41,760
Speaker 3: that's not what I said, And then she.

1333
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 2: Went on to say, all I was saying was that

1334
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 2: I couldn't I couldn't bring him on because he was gay.

1335
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 2: Rachel gets she definitely it now. I mean she was

1336
01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:59,679
Speaker 2: struggling with it. She was struggling with it because she's

1337
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:02,840
Speaker 2: herself that Kamala Harris was some kind of white night

1338
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 2: and now she's face to face with it, and she's

1339
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 2: got no reason to cover for Kamala anymore, got no reason,

1340
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:12,720
Speaker 2: her mind doesn't have a reason even to protect her

1341
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:15,720
Speaker 2: from Kamala's stupidity, right to just put a shine on

1342
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 2: it and may oh, she didn't really say what she said.

1343
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:22,960
Speaker 2: So Rachel's just face to face with it, and face

1344
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:25,680
Speaker 2: to face with her ignorance and the fact that, yeah, no,

1345
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:28,639
Speaker 2: she absolutely did not pick Pete because he was gay,

1346
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:30,639
Speaker 2: and I mean, honestly, it was the right choice.

1347
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:33,959
Speaker 3: No, you can't run a gay man on the ticket.

1348
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:39,759
Speaker 2: You can't not to mention, I mean, and Rachel, again,

1349
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:43,599
Speaker 2: this is just this is just the degeneracy of left

1350
01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:46,160
Speaker 2: wing media. If she had any kind of curiosity, she

1351
01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:48,920
Speaker 2: would have dealt further into why she didn't take Pete.

1352
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:52,639
Speaker 2: Maybe she would have thrown Kamala a little bone there, right,

1353
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:54,800
Speaker 2: she would have said, well, you know, Pete does have

1354
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:59,679
Speaker 2: a pretty poor track record as mayor in Fort Wayne.

1355
01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:01,360
Speaker 2: And he right, that was Fort Wayne where he was

1356
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:04,439
Speaker 2: at in Indiana. A pretty poor track record Black but

1357
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:07,680
Speaker 2: what was that, oh South Bend, South, I'd thank you,

1358
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:08,360
Speaker 2: South Bend.

1359
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 3: Pretty poor track record.

1360
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:13,400
Speaker 2: Black people don't like him, you know, in droves like

1361
01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:16,040
Speaker 2: he pulls it like one percent with black people.

1362
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:18,920
Speaker 3: You know, Rachel could have she could have brought that up.

1363
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:21,760
Speaker 2: She could have thrown Camela that bone just to hang

1364
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:22,679
Speaker 2: on to and be.

1365
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 3: Like, you're right, none of that.

1366
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:27,839
Speaker 2: Which it's just again, they're they're they're just they're empty.

1367
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:31,120
Speaker 2: And that's basically what Kamala Harris was saying in that clip.

1368
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:33,640
Speaker 3: It was an empty campaign.

1369
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 2: I made an empty decision based on empty factors. Even

1370
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 2: the way I'm talking about it is empty. The truth

1371
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:45,840
Speaker 2: is that wasn't the truth. The only time she told

1372
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 2: the truth was I did not pick Pete because he

1373
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:48,679
Speaker 2: was gage.

1374
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:49,200
Speaker 3: That's true.

1375
01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 2: That's true. Kamala doesn't have a problem with gay people.

1376
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 2: We all must know that. She didn't peepe pick him

1377
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:57,640
Speaker 2: because he's a loser. And because Americans don't want a

1378
01:18:57,720 --> 01:19:01,120
Speaker 2: gay vice president. Maybe we will someday, we don't want

1379
01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 2: It's like we don't want unmarried men in the presidency.

1380
01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:08,559
Speaker 2: This is something very visceral that the American psyche, the

1381
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:13,360
Speaker 2: American spirit holds on too. So we don't want on.

1382
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 2: We don't want singletons in the White House.

1383
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:18,800
Speaker 3: And there's a reason for that too.

1384
01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 2: It's not just that it's some mysterious thing of our psyche.

1385
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:27,200
Speaker 2: If a man can carry a family, we think that

1386
01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 2: says a lot about how he could carry a nation.

1387
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 2: So there's that, but the whole answer was shallow, and

1388
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:35,720
Speaker 2: of course, so she didn't pick Pie because it was

1389
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:38,880
Speaker 2: a bad choice. But then she didn't pick Shapiro because

1390
01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:42,439
Speaker 2: the base is completely anti Semitic, and he would have

1391
01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 2: been a great choice. That guy is polished, as you

1392
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 2: know what. I made a comment the other day saying,

1393
01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:50,720
Speaker 2: this would be the guy that I would go with

1394
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:52,680
Speaker 2: as Democrats, and they're so dumb they're going to go

1395
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 2: with the Communists. And a lot of people are like,

1396
01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 2: he's not good either. Don't be fooled by him. I'm

1397
01:19:56,360 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 2: not fooled by him. He's a Democrat. I'm just saying,

1398
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:02,120
Speaker 2: if I was a Democrat, that's the guy that I

1399
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 2: would go to. He's polished, he seems to understand the

1400
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:07,040
Speaker 2: culture ship, and he seems to know how to least

1401
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:10,760
Speaker 2: lie well enough to make people believe that he's on it.

1402
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 2: But instead you get the Camels of the world, and

1403
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 2: they are completely vapid.

1404
01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 3: I told you we're going to go to a break here,

1405
01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:22,000
Speaker 3: but before we do.

1406
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 2: I told you why.

1407
01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:25,320
Speaker 3: I knew why she picked.

1408
01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:28,000
Speaker 2: Him, And this is based on just what I've been

1409
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:29,880
Speaker 2: doing I've been like I said, I've been reading these

1410
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:34,040
Speaker 2: insider books, and I think from all of the information

1411
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:36,599
Speaker 2: that I've put together, I think she chose him well

1412
01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:37,519
Speaker 2: because she liked him.

1413
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:39,400
Speaker 3: I think at the end of the day, he was

1414
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:40,000
Speaker 3: a buffoon.

1415
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:42,920
Speaker 2: She liked him. They could get along, and she doesn't

1416
01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:45,439
Speaker 2: get along with many people. This we know as well.

1417
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:48,640
Speaker 2: She doesn't get along with many people. And also, he

1418
01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:51,000
Speaker 2: wasn't going to outshine her. He wasn't smart enough to

1419
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:54,439
Speaker 2: outshine her, he wasn't attractive enough to outshine her, and

1420
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:57,040
Speaker 2: he didn't have as interesting I don't even want to

1421
01:20:57,040 --> 01:20:59,439
Speaker 2: say interesting in personality, but I don't know. He just

1422
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:04,000
Speaker 2: Pete would have with the bass, not with the general

1423
01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:04,679
Speaker 2: American public.

1424
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:06,200
Speaker 3: With the base, Pete would have.

1425
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:10,840
Speaker 2: Out Shan Kamla just because he's more engaging. He's not smarter,

1426
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 2: but he's just He definitely has a more polish, a

1427
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 2: better polish to him, and the gay thing would have

1428
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:21,320
Speaker 2: helped with the bass, and Shapiro is extremely polished, well spoken,

1429
01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:27,360
Speaker 2: and he's very intelligent. He's extremely intelligent. He would have

1430
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 2: made her look like a dummy, and he definitely would

1431
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:33,280
Speaker 2: have outshown her because they would have been going Joe

1432
01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:35,600
Speaker 2: Rogan would have been going to him right like, so

1433
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:40,599
Speaker 2: she had no choice. The buffoon was it. And that's

1434
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:45,400
Speaker 2: really the story of her campaign. The only choice is buffoonery.

1435
01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:47,800
Speaker 2: Let's take a break. I'm Kia Davis filling in for

1436
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:51,000
Speaker 2: Tony Katz, and you're listening to Tony Katz today. Welcome back,

1437
01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 2: everybody too, Tony Kats Today. I am your guest host,

1438
01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:56,240
Speaker 2: Kira Davis, filling in form my good friend Tony Katz

1439
01:21:56,600 --> 01:22:02,719
Speaker 2: on this Tuesday, Seceember twenty third. Where did septemberg man,

1440
01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:06,559
Speaker 2: We've lived a whole life this month. We have lived

1441
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:12,439
Speaker 2: an entire lifetime, and the month is not over. I

1442
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:14,760
Speaker 2: want to reflect for a second. I just on where

1443
01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:17,880
Speaker 2: we're at. Maybe this is a good time to tell

1444
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:21,680
Speaker 2: people that I actually knew Charlie. We were friendly. I

1445
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:25,160
Speaker 2: wouldn't call us, you know, we're friends as in colleagues.

1446
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:28,160
Speaker 2: I guess all of my Charlie stories are work stories.

1447
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:30,840
Speaker 2: I didn't hang out with him personally. I didn't know

1448
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 2: his family. We didn't have deep discussions, but we worked

1449
01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:36,920
Speaker 2: together from time to time. We did a lot on

1450
01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:41,360
Speaker 2: Fox News back in the early days of TPUSA, back

1451
01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:42,920
Speaker 2: when Steve Hilton's still had a show. I used to

1452
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:44,720
Speaker 2: be a regular guest on there, and Charlie was on

1453
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:46,679
Speaker 2: there a lot. They would pair us a lot because

1454
01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:50,400
Speaker 2: I always had sharp criticisms for him. I didn't like

1455
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:54,280
Speaker 2: him when I first met him, and so they would

1456
01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:57,080
Speaker 2: pair us. And now over the years, I always was

1457
01:22:57,280 --> 01:22:59,639
Speaker 2: a mild critic of Charlie. Can go to my podcast

1458
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:02,800
Speaker 2: and here some of the things that I disagreed with,

1459
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:05,960
Speaker 2: But we were always on the same side. No matter.

1460
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 2: That's that's neither here nor there. The The thing is, though,

1461
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:15,920
Speaker 2: is that I didn't watch the video. I watched the

1462
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:19,840
Speaker 2: shooting before I knew what I was watching. Somebody sent

1463
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:21,600
Speaker 2: me the video and I thought it was just a

1464
01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:24,960
Speaker 2: regular TPUSA event, and so I watched it. But it

1465
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:28,639
Speaker 2: was from a distance, and so I only saw him fall.

1466
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:30,320
Speaker 2: I didn't have to see anything else, and I have

1467
01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:36,320
Speaker 2: I will not, But it is it is disconcerting to

1468
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:39,160
Speaker 2: see someone that you know and have just seen and

1469
01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:43,599
Speaker 2: just spoken to and just talked too and just touched,

1470
01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:47,880
Speaker 2: just to be assassinated like that. It is. It was

1471
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:51,759
Speaker 2: jarring for everyone. Of course, it's deeply jarring for his family.

1472
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:54,760
Speaker 2: I don't mean to minimize at all their experience of this,

1473
01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:58,639
Speaker 2: but just as someone on the fringes of it, even

1474
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 2: it is and I, yeah, I have to say I changed,

1475
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:09,400
Speaker 2: I did. I changed that day. We really are in trouble.

1476
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:12,640
Speaker 2: And I don't think we have the luxury of debating

1477
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:15,840
Speaker 2: these ideas anymore, as if they're just concepts, or as

1478
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:19,720
Speaker 2: if we're going to educate the other side enough to

1479
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:25,800
Speaker 2: at least just be friendly. The rot is so deep

1480
01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 2: that the other side doesn't even know they're sick. So

1481
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:32,479
Speaker 2: when I talk about things like Brendan Carr at the

1482
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:38,800
Speaker 2: FCC talking about reigniting the public interest clause, or when

1483
01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:43,920
Speaker 2: you talk about the US letting TikTok stay but controlling

1484
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 2: the algorithm, when you talk about demanding that university's account.

1485
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:52,360
Speaker 3: For their foreign students. When you talk about.

1486
01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:57,000
Speaker 2: You know, closing the border, or the changes to the

1487
01:24:57,160 --> 01:25:03,000
Speaker 2: HB one visa programs, all of changing the Smithsonian, all

1488
01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:06,920
Speaker 2: of these things are little things to work together to

1489
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:12,960
Speaker 2: reset the culture. We didn't get here overnight. Even the

1490
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:16,040
Speaker 2: video games thing. You know, when I was younger, I

1491
01:25:16,040 --> 01:25:19,040
Speaker 2: would have said, yeah, it's about parents, the video games whatever,

1492
01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:21,479
Speaker 2: first person shooter, who cares, Just don't let your kids

1493
01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:23,479
Speaker 2: play it. If you don't like it, which is what

1494
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:26,320
Speaker 2: I did, don't let your kids play it. But now

1495
01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:29,519
Speaker 2: I see that after year, decades and decades of that.

1496
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:35,559
Speaker 2: It sits on top of a population that has less education,

1497
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:40,920
Speaker 2: children are more medicated, screen addictions, and what that does

1498
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:43,760
Speaker 2: to your brain, the destruction of the nuclear family, and

1499
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:44,799
Speaker 2: what that does.

1500
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:45,280
Speaker 3: To your brain.

1501
01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:50,840
Speaker 2: COVID four years of shut it, being shut in, being

1502
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:53,360
Speaker 2: locked away from your churches, being locked away.

1503
01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:54,120
Speaker 3: From family and friends.

1504
01:25:54,200 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you pile it all up like that, yeah,

1505
01:25:57,320 --> 01:26:00,800
Speaker 2: it does add up to something very rotten and bad

1506
01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:01,439
Speaker 2: and nasty.

1507
01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:03,679
Speaker 3: So our first person shooter game.

1508
01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:06,400
Speaker 2: Is a problem. No, but they are the problem combined

1509
01:26:06,439 --> 01:26:13,160
Speaker 2: with two decades of depression, medication and ADHD medication and

1510
01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:16,400
Speaker 2: screen you know what I'm saying, get it, And so

1511
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:21,880
Speaker 2: all of this has to work together. You know, We're

1512
01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:24,800
Speaker 2: we're not going to defeat this just at the ballot box.

1513
01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:25,719
Speaker 3: That's the start.

1514
01:26:26,160 --> 01:26:27,759
Speaker 2: Really, what we're gonna have to do is we're gonna

1515
01:26:27,760 --> 01:26:29,360
Speaker 2: have to do complete one to eighty on all of

1516
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:32,640
Speaker 2: our cultural institutions, and that will take years. That is

1517
01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:36,160
Speaker 2: gonna take years, and we're gonna have to purge like

1518
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:38,960
Speaker 2: some of these violent actors from the population. And I

1519
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:40,720
Speaker 2: don't mean us like go in and find them and

1520
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:43,840
Speaker 2: kill them. But what I mean is like, unfortunately, we're

1521
01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:47,280
Speaker 2: gonna have to wait for them to rear their heads

1522
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:51,639
Speaker 2: and it's going to happen more and more. It's been happening,

1523
01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:55,599
Speaker 2: it's just not being reported. But the left doesn't own

1524
01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:58,240
Speaker 2: the legacy medi they don't own the media anymore. They

1525
01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:02,360
Speaker 2: don't own the avenues of information anymore. So we get

1526
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:05,320
Speaker 2: to tell the stories. Now, we get to tell the stories.

1527
01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:08,559
Speaker 2: I know you're looking at ABC and NBC and you're going, well, Kira,

1528
01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:11,679
Speaker 2: they're still out there every day in the airways. There's

1529
01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:14,400
Speaker 2: still New York Times is still the paper of record.

1530
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:17,800
Speaker 2: MSNBC is still one of the most notable. No, No,

1531
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:21,320
Speaker 2: that's just that's us doing that, that's us giving them

1532
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:23,000
Speaker 2: that title.

1533
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:23,599
Speaker 3: Again.

1534
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:27,000
Speaker 2: Well, we're soaked in this. We're baked in this, even

1535
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:30,320
Speaker 2: as conservatives. We're baked in this idea that we're not

1536
01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:36,000
Speaker 2: supposed to trigger these policies and laws and ideals that

1537
01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:38,799
Speaker 2: we have were baked in this idea that.

1538
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:41,000
Speaker 3: MSNBC and CNN are the record.

1539
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:42,320
Speaker 2: They're not.

1540
01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:47,240
Speaker 3: Their viewership is so low. Who are they talking to each.

1541
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:50,519
Speaker 2: Other, and when we report on what they're saying, we're

1542
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 2: not reporting on what the people are saying. We're reporting

1543
01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:57,479
Speaker 2: on what the talking heads at MSNBC are saying. And yes,

1544
01:27:57,560 --> 01:28:02,080
Speaker 2: your friends are parenting that. If the FCC starts invoking

1545
01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:06,400
Speaker 2: the public interest clause and places like msnbcs start being

1546
01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:09,599
Speaker 2: more careful about the facts that they air, are your

1547
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:15,280
Speaker 2: friends going to be parroting that disinformation as much it's

1548
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:16,040
Speaker 2: trickled down.

1549
01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:18,439
Speaker 3: It's trickled down.

1550
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:23,639
Speaker 2: Your friends will stop parroting the same stupid talking points

1551
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:27,680
Speaker 2: when they stop getting the talking points. So it's not

1552
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:30,559
Speaker 2: you're not going to persuade your friends. Your friends that

1553
01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:33,040
Speaker 2: were out there clapping for Charlie Kirk, they clap for

1554
01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:36,040
Speaker 2: you too. If you got shot, they will clap for

1555
01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 2: it too, So they're not going to You're not going

1556
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:43,439
Speaker 2: to persuade them. What's going to change their mind because

1557
01:28:43,439 --> 01:28:46,160
Speaker 2: they are not intelligent enough to do this for themselves.

1558
01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:48,840
Speaker 2: What's going to change their mind is the propaganda. When

1559
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:53,320
Speaker 2: the propaganda changes, their minds will change. And that's just that,

1560
01:28:53,320 --> 01:28:57,559
Speaker 2: that's just where we are. Sixty percent of this country

1561
01:28:57,640 --> 01:29:03,000
Speaker 2: is NPCs, just people walking around with no monologue, no curiosity,

1562
01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:07,960
Speaker 2: no driver motivation, and no concept of a larger world

1563
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:14,440
Speaker 2: outside of themselves. They are basically non player characters NPCs.

1564
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:18,040
Speaker 2: You press a button and they go here, and they

1565
01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:20,799
Speaker 2: do that, and a lot of them are in our government.

1566
01:29:24,479 --> 01:29:27,320
Speaker 2: We have to shift the culture. And I get it,

1567
01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 2: and I know a lot of you conservative contrarians out

1568
01:29:29,960 --> 01:29:33,840
Speaker 2: there you don't get it. And Trump makes you uncomfortable,

1569
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:36,360
Speaker 2: and Brendan Carr makes you uncomfortable. And when Trump goes

1570
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:40,360
Speaker 2: out there and he speaks inartfully about things in the culture,

1571
01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:44,479
Speaker 2: you cringe and you, oh, he's not saying it right,

1572
01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:47,200
Speaker 2: and he's going to get dragged over the colder who cares.

1573
01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:52,479
Speaker 2: We're beyond that. It's not about what if he's saying

1574
01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:55,880
Speaker 2: it right or not. Is what he is saying right?

1575
01:29:58,360 --> 01:30:01,080
Speaker 2: The answer is yes. It's been yes every time. And

1576
01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:03,519
Speaker 2: believe me, I'm the first one. I've been the one

1577
01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:06,400
Speaker 2: who's been wanting to be able to say no, yeah,

1578
01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:08,240
Speaker 2: I was right. Trump was going to be wrong about this,

1579
01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:10,559
Speaker 2: that and the other because I have said the same

1580
01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:14,000
Speaker 2: things over the years, but not this time.

1581
01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:18,320
Speaker 3: The proof is all around us. So we don't need

1582
01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:18,559
Speaker 3: to be.

1583
01:30:18,520 --> 01:30:23,840
Speaker 2: Conservative contrarians about him. We can accept that He is

1584
01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:27,559
Speaker 2: telling us the truth. The world is rotten and if

1585
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:31,720
Speaker 2: we don't correct course right now, we're done for America's

1586
01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:32,519
Speaker 2: correcting course.

1587
01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:35,920
Speaker 3: Will the world have the stones to follow?

1588
01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:38,640
Speaker 2: That is the question. I'm Kara Davis filling in for

1589
01:30:38,680 --> 01:30:49,599
Speaker 2: Tony Katz, and this is Tony Katz today. Welcome back

1590
01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:52,920
Speaker 2: everybody to Tony Katz today. Boy, time flies when you're

1591
01:30:52,960 --> 01:30:55,759
Speaker 2: having fun. Tony's out today, but I've been guest hosting

1592
01:30:56,760 --> 01:30:59,120
Speaker 2: all day. I'm Kira Davis filling in for my good

1593
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:02,080
Speaker 2: friend Tony Katz. You can go sign apri substack just

1594
01:31:02,160 --> 01:31:06,360
Speaker 2: Kiara Davis dot substack dot com. That's just just Karadavis dot.

1595
01:31:06,160 --> 01:31:07,400
Speaker 3: Substack dot com.

1596
01:31:07,400 --> 01:31:12,680
Speaker 2: Talking a lot about Kimmel this week, Kimmel and Kirk basically.

1597
01:31:12,680 --> 01:31:14,120
Speaker 3: So on that topic.

1598
01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:16,559
Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw yesterday, but Keith Olberman

1599
01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:20,080
Speaker 2: remember him. He was fired from MSNBC for being a

1600
01:31:20,120 --> 01:31:22,439
Speaker 2: lunatic and now he does something on the internet. I

1601
01:31:22,439 --> 01:31:26,400
Speaker 2: don't know. He ramps like a lunatic on X. It's

1602
01:31:26,479 --> 01:31:30,160
Speaker 2: really sad. It's really sad to see. But yesterday threatened

1603
01:31:30,160 --> 01:31:33,519
Speaker 2: Scott Jennings not on our national treasure. Scott Jennings, how

1604
01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:38,080
Speaker 2: dare you Sir Scott Jennings made a comment about Jimmy

1605
01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:41,679
Speaker 2: Kimmel not being fired, and Keith Olberman responded with your

1606
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:45,160
Speaker 2: nextffort and then another We're going to get you next,

1607
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:50,360
Speaker 2: or something like that. Given what's going on in this

1608
01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:56,800
Speaker 2: country and the loss of Charlie Kirk days ago, Scott

1609
01:31:56,880 --> 01:32:01,160
Speaker 2: Jennings felt that to be a bit threatening. I think

1610
01:32:01,200 --> 01:32:04,360
Speaker 2: so as well, and so he tagged the FBI on it,

1611
01:32:05,439 --> 01:32:10,799
Speaker 2: tag cash Ftel, whom he knows personally. And just now,

1612
01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:16,519
Speaker 2: just in the break, Keith Oberman has tweeted out, I

1613
01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:21,640
Speaker 2: apologize without reservation to Scott Jennings. Yesterday I wrote and

1614
01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:25,720
Speaker 2: immediately deleted two responses to him about Kimmel because they

1615
01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:29,400
Speaker 2: could be misinterpreted as a threat to anything besides his career.

1616
01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:32,960
Speaker 2: I immediately replaced them with the one specifying what I

1617
01:32:33,040 --> 01:32:36,000
Speaker 2: actually met, and then he posted another one. I oppose

1618
01:32:36,080 --> 01:32:39,280
Speaker 2: and condemned political violence and the threat of it. All

1619
01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:43,400
Speaker 2: times are the wrong time to leave, even an inadvertent

1620
01:32:43,479 --> 01:32:47,479
Speaker 2: impression of it, but this time especially is wrong. I

1621
01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:50,320
Speaker 2: should have acknowledged the deletion when I did it, and

1622
01:32:50,360 --> 01:32:53,920
Speaker 2: I should have apologized yesterday. I am sorry I delayed.

1623
01:32:54,160 --> 01:33:00,080
Speaker 2: That is a very thorough apologies. Methinks he got a

1624
01:32:59,840 --> 01:33:01,240
Speaker 2: call from the FBI.

1625
01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:04,080
Speaker 3: But do you see what I'm saying here?

1626
01:33:04,400 --> 01:33:07,599
Speaker 2: Going back to my grant before the break, we're gonna

1627
01:33:07,640 --> 01:33:10,080
Speaker 2: have to course correct. It's gonna be we have to correct.

1628
01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:11,920
Speaker 2: So some of these people have to get punished, some

1629
01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:16,120
Speaker 2: of them have to get slapped down. Right, does cash

1630
01:33:16,160 --> 01:33:20,080
Speaker 2: Hotel want? Does he knows Keith Oberman isn't going to

1631
01:33:20,160 --> 01:33:23,120
Speaker 2: go kill Scott Jennings. He knows that, But he also

1632
01:33:23,160 --> 01:33:26,080
Speaker 2: knows that people get triggered, right, But is it going

1633
01:33:26,200 --> 01:33:28,639
Speaker 2: to go arrest Keith Oberman and put him on trial

1634
01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:31,040
Speaker 2: for threatening another man's life? No, he doesn't want to

1635
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:33,280
Speaker 2: do that. What he would like to do is for

1636
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:38,800
Speaker 2: everybody to stop losing their freaking minds and come back

1637
01:33:38,840 --> 01:33:42,400
Speaker 2: to some kind of normal saving things about Scott. Tell

1638
01:33:42,479 --> 01:33:44,559
Speaker 2: him that you don't like him, tell him you think

1639
01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:48,240
Speaker 2: he's he's you know, a jerk and a racist and

1640
01:33:48,280 --> 01:33:52,280
Speaker 2: a homophobe. That's that's it's not right, it's a lie.

1641
01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:55,720
Speaker 2: But tell him that. But this thing we're doing, where

1642
01:33:55,720 --> 01:33:57,960
Speaker 2: we're just pointing and threatening each other all day long,

1643
01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:00,839
Speaker 2: By the way, the left has no threats left.

1644
01:34:01,360 --> 01:34:03,559
Speaker 3: Do you want to know what Jimmy or excuse me what.

1645
01:34:04,720 --> 01:34:08,880
Speaker 2: Keith replaced those tweets with the first one says. The

1646
01:34:08,920 --> 01:34:11,719
Speaker 2: first one said your next mfort and so he replaced

1647
01:34:11,720 --> 01:34:16,559
Speaker 2: it with we want you stupid pieces of last fold

1648
01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:19,439
Speaker 2: to fascism was last week. I'm not sure what he

1649
01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:22,000
Speaker 2: means by that, but I think now in my mind

1650
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:24,000
Speaker 2: I would think, oh, do you mean Charlie getting shot?

1651
01:34:24,040 --> 01:34:27,240
Speaker 2: But no, he means Jimmy Kimmel. He means Jimmy being

1652
01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:29,960
Speaker 2: able to get back on the air was the last

1653
01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:33,639
Speaker 2: fold to fascism. And then the second correction he says,

1654
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:36,960
Speaker 2: now we get the fascists off Real TV. That didn't

1655
01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:39,720
Speaker 2: mean your career is next. Jennings send a tape to

1656
01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:43,759
Speaker 2: Real America's voice, but keep mugging to the camera amateur,

1657
01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:47,640
Speaker 2: which is hilarious because Keith Olberman used to be on

1658
01:34:47,760 --> 01:34:51,920
Speaker 2: MSNBC and now he does lunatic rants on X for

1659
01:34:51,960 --> 01:34:56,640
Speaker 2: a Living right talk about amateurs, and Scott Jennings the

1660
01:34:56,720 --> 01:34:59,920
Speaker 2: loan He's not the loan conservative, but he is the

1661
01:35:00,120 --> 01:35:03,120
Speaker 2: leading conservative voice on CNN. I do want to take

1662
01:35:03,160 --> 01:35:06,280
Speaker 2: a chance to shout out my friends, Sir Michael Singleton,

1663
01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:10,800
Speaker 2: who is also on CNN quite a bit and is great.

1664
01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:13,600
Speaker 2: He's a lovely man. Love him and he does. He

1665
01:35:13,600 --> 01:35:17,120
Speaker 2: has a firearms a to a coalition that he works

1666
01:35:17,160 --> 01:35:20,080
Speaker 2: with that is great as well. So when you see Schermichael,

1667
01:35:20,160 --> 01:35:20,880
Speaker 2: give him some love.

1668
01:35:21,439 --> 01:35:22,599
Speaker 3: But anyway, the whole.

1669
01:35:22,360 --> 01:35:26,360
Speaker 2: Point with that is that a the Olberman's of the

1670
01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:29,200
Speaker 2: world are delusional, right, you know, he thinks he's being

1671
01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:36,760
Speaker 2: some warrior, but be playing playing, you know, putting on

1672
01:35:37,400 --> 01:35:41,519
Speaker 2: our big boy pants and being the boss works. It

1673
01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:45,639
Speaker 2: will shift the culture. You see what Olberman didn't do there.

1674
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:51,120
Speaker 2: He didn't qualify, and he was very careful to not qualify,

1675
01:35:51,280 --> 01:35:53,680
Speaker 2: and in fact, he repeated himself to make sure that

1676
01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:56,200
Speaker 2: he was not qualifying. Do you know what I mean

1677
01:35:56,240 --> 01:35:59,799
Speaker 2: when I say that, he doesn't say there's no butts.

1678
01:36:01,200 --> 01:36:04,240
Speaker 2: I didn't agree with everything Charlie Kirk said. But you know,

1679
01:36:04,600 --> 01:36:06,800
Speaker 2: as I said earlier, I have a lot of I

1680
01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:10,880
Speaker 2: had a lot of friendly criticisms for Charlie, and I've

1681
01:36:10,920 --> 01:36:13,960
Speaker 2: done entire episodes on some of the things he said

1682
01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:17,200
Speaker 2: that I felt were unhealthful. Never once have you heard

1683
01:36:17,280 --> 01:36:20,400
Speaker 2: me say I didn't agree with Charlie. But there are

1684
01:36:20,439 --> 01:36:23,679
Speaker 2: no butts. You know, there's no butts, so he didn't

1685
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:27,360
Speaker 2: qualify anything, and I think that was very careful. This

1686
01:36:27,560 --> 01:36:30,960
Speaker 2: reads like the statements of a man who got a

1687
01:36:31,080 --> 01:36:35,639
Speaker 2: visit from the FBI and can't afford the fight, because really,

1688
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:38,639
Speaker 2: you know, if he were brave, if he had if

1689
01:36:38,680 --> 01:36:42,320
Speaker 2: he had half the courage he pretends to have on X,

1690
01:36:43,920 --> 01:36:46,080
Speaker 2: he would have told the FBI f off. He would

1691
01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:48,320
Speaker 2: have dared them to come investigate him and arrest him,

1692
01:36:48,320 --> 01:36:49,799
Speaker 2: and then he would use that as content.

1693
01:36:51,439 --> 01:36:52,280
Speaker 3: He's not that brave.

1694
01:36:53,280 --> 01:36:56,599
Speaker 2: He's not that brave because Jimmy Kimmel, all Jimmy Kimmel

1695
01:36:56,600 --> 01:36:59,240
Speaker 2: put on the line was a few nights of airtime.

1696
01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:01,040
Speaker 2: He gets paid with whether the show airs or not.

1697
01:37:01,400 --> 01:37:03,599
Speaker 2: All he put on the line is a few nights

1698
01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:06,439
Speaker 2: of airtime. What Olberman would be putting on the line

1699
01:37:06,560 --> 01:37:10,000
Speaker 2: would be his very freedom. So they talk a big gay,

1700
01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:12,960
Speaker 2: but none of them are willing to do anything to

1701
01:37:13,080 --> 01:37:15,240
Speaker 2: save anyone, let alone this country.

1702
01:37:15,960 --> 01:37:19,839
Speaker 3: So they've been allowed to take the bully pulpit.

1703
01:37:20,560 --> 01:37:23,240
Speaker 2: And again this goes back to maybe I need to

1704
01:37:23,240 --> 01:37:26,040
Speaker 2: just do a whole podcast on this, because it goes

1705
01:37:26,080 --> 01:37:31,000
Speaker 2: back to the Brandon Carr comments, this public interest clause,

1706
01:37:32,800 --> 01:37:36,000
Speaker 2: this phrase, and what does it mean if you have

1707
01:37:37,080 --> 01:37:41,920
Speaker 2: if you've got broadcasters who are deliberately airing lies that

1708
01:37:42,160 --> 01:37:48,719
Speaker 2: knowingly scare Americans and make Americans fearful of each other,

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01:37:49,160 --> 01:37:53,600
Speaker 2: and in the end it leads to public panic. You know,

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01:37:53,720 --> 01:37:58,000
Speaker 2: like if you put on every night China is invading

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01:37:58,080 --> 01:38:00,760
Speaker 2: the West Coast of America tomorrow, and you put that

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01:38:00,840 --> 01:38:04,160
Speaker 2: on every night, you go, well, we're just talking, We're

1713
01:38:04,200 --> 01:38:08,799
Speaker 2: just saying things. That's harmful, that's not in the public interest.

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01:38:08,920 --> 01:38:09,719
Speaker 2: It's not true.

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01:38:09,920 --> 01:38:11,799
Speaker 3: You're causing people to be crazy.

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01:38:11,840 --> 01:38:14,080
Speaker 2: What you know, all the consequences of that have run

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01:38:14,120 --> 01:38:17,960
Speaker 2: on stores, no toilet paper, you know, maybe neighbors getting violent,

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01:38:18,040 --> 01:38:21,400
Speaker 2: like people will panic. The left wing media in this

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01:38:21,520 --> 01:38:26,160
Speaker 2: country has been selling panic to half the country, less

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01:38:26,160 --> 01:38:28,360
Speaker 2: than half the country, because I believe we're the majority,

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01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:30,800
Speaker 2: not them, but panic to a good portion of this

1722
01:38:30,840 --> 01:38:33,640
Speaker 2: country for decades now. Is that very much in the

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01:38:33,680 --> 01:38:38,160
Speaker 2: public interest? I know, Overman, apologize, but it's still not

1724
01:38:38,320 --> 01:38:40,920
Speaker 2: helpful for you to go out and call fellow Americans

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01:38:40,960 --> 01:38:44,960
Speaker 2: fascists when all they're doing is espousing totally normal, mainstream

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01:38:45,000 --> 01:38:51,320
Speaker 2: American views. That's harmful, that's insightful, that's dangerous, that's not

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01:38:51,439 --> 01:38:54,040
Speaker 2: in the interest of the American people. Absolutely. I believe

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01:38:54,080 --> 01:38:56,679
Speaker 2: the FCC cannon should come in and start throwing around

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01:38:56,720 --> 01:39:01,920
Speaker 2: the public interest clause, and people are going to cry

1730
01:39:02,120 --> 01:39:04,559
Speaker 2: and scream about free speech, and you know what, maybe

1731
01:39:04,600 --> 01:39:06,640
Speaker 2: it is a threat to free speech. I don't know.

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01:39:07,040 --> 01:39:10,320
Speaker 2: We're not in a position to adjudicate that right now.

1733
01:39:11,160 --> 01:39:14,280
Speaker 2: We'll have to see what happens. We've seen what happens

1734
01:39:14,320 --> 01:39:17,080
Speaker 2: when we let the left say whatever they want, willy nilly,

1735
01:39:17,080 --> 01:39:20,200
Speaker 2: and then we let ourselves be pushed out of the

1736
01:39:20,360 --> 01:39:26,480
Speaker 2: very public squares where we could combat that idiocy, that lunacy.

1737
01:39:27,200 --> 01:39:29,479
Speaker 2: We've seen what happens when we let that happen. So

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01:39:29,560 --> 01:39:31,639
Speaker 2: let's try it the other way around and see what happens.

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01:39:31,640 --> 01:39:34,880
Speaker 2: All right, let's take one last break. We'll come back

1740
01:39:34,920 --> 01:39:37,920
Speaker 2: and bring it home. I'm Kiara Davis, feeling it for

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01:39:37,960 --> 01:39:41,640
Speaker 2: Tony Kats, and this is Tony Kats Today. Welcome back, everybody,

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01:39:43,720 --> 01:39:47,760
Speaker 2: Welcome back to Tony Kats Today. I am your host,

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01:39:47,840 --> 01:39:49,600
Speaker 2: Kia Davis. I was just reading X while I was

1744
01:39:49,640 --> 01:39:51,400
Speaker 2: trying to introduce the show. I guess I can't really

1745
01:39:51,479 --> 01:39:54,599
Speaker 2: multitask anymore at my age. I should stop. Welcome back

1746
01:39:54,600 --> 01:39:56,679
Speaker 2: to the show. I'm Kia Davis feeling it for Tony Cats.

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01:39:56,720 --> 01:39:59,439
Speaker 2: We are bringing it home. There's so much time. I

1748
01:39:59,479 --> 01:40:01,200
Speaker 2: didn't even get to all of it. Let me look

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01:40:01,200 --> 01:40:03,080
Speaker 2: at my notes here. I didn't even get We didn't

1750
01:40:03,080 --> 01:40:09,439
Speaker 2: talk about the autism thing, and it was it was

1751
01:40:09,439 --> 01:40:10,480
Speaker 2: a strange announcement.

1752
01:40:10,600 --> 01:40:11,680
Speaker 3: I'll say this about it.

1753
01:40:12,120 --> 01:40:15,840
Speaker 2: So Trump announced yesterday that they that the government believes

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01:40:15,880 --> 01:40:19,880
Speaker 2: there is a link, a very solid link, between excessive

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01:40:19,960 --> 01:40:23,400
Speaker 2: use of thailanol or a seed of menafin during pregnancy

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01:40:23,439 --> 01:40:27,040
Speaker 2: and autism. And it was a little muddled because he

1757
01:40:27,120 --> 01:40:29,560
Speaker 2: just kept saying, don't take the talentol, don't take the tailanol.

1758
01:40:30,040 --> 01:40:32,720
Speaker 2: You have to understand how Trump talks to read him.

1759
01:40:32,920 --> 01:40:35,000
Speaker 2: And I know a lot of the critics will go, oh, yeah,

1760
01:40:35,080 --> 01:40:37,040
Speaker 2: you need to interpret the president. It's not that you

1761
01:40:37,080 --> 01:40:39,719
Speaker 2: need to interpret him, it's if you're not from New York,

1762
01:40:39,840 --> 01:40:43,879
Speaker 2: which I am not, then you don't really. New Yorkers

1763
01:40:43,920 --> 01:40:46,120
Speaker 2: have a way of speaking. Every region has a way

1764
01:40:46,120 --> 01:40:49,519
Speaker 2: of speaking, and New York is very specific. So once

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01:40:49,560 --> 01:40:53,200
Speaker 2: you get acclimated to that, you can kind of sift

1766
01:40:53,360 --> 01:40:57,280
Speaker 2: through the way he expresses himself and you can really

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01:40:57,320 --> 01:41:01,720
Speaker 2: hear what he's saying and So what I heard what

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01:41:01,800 --> 01:41:07,080
Speaker 2: he was saying was that tylanol is a problem. It's

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01:41:07,120 --> 01:41:11,120
Speaker 2: a problem for pregnant women. Our use of a set

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01:41:11,160 --> 01:41:14,519
Speaker 2: of menafine for painkilling period is a problem. It is

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01:41:14,600 --> 01:41:17,960
Speaker 2: definitely causing problems in the body. We are seeing links

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01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:20,320
Speaker 2: with it. You should stay away from it. If you

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01:41:20,439 --> 01:41:22,800
Speaker 2: take it in small doses of when you need it

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01:41:22,840 --> 01:41:25,040
Speaker 2: for this or that, that's one thing. If you take

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01:41:25,080 --> 01:41:27,519
Speaker 2: it on a regular basis, or especially if you take

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01:41:27,560 --> 01:41:31,160
Speaker 2: it regularly while pregnant, that's dangerous. Don't do it. That's

1777
01:41:31,200 --> 01:41:33,360
Speaker 2: what he was saying. Now, it's just a press conference.

1778
01:41:33,400 --> 01:41:35,280
Speaker 2: He's not going to run down all the numbers for you.

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01:41:35,520 --> 01:41:40,559
Speaker 2: But afterwards, RFK and doctor Oz also gave their own portions.

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01:41:40,600 --> 01:41:43,080
Speaker 2: Now here's what I also heard that is not being

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01:41:43,120 --> 01:41:48,400
Speaker 2: covered right now. What President Trump also mentioned the vaccines,

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01:41:49,439 --> 01:41:54,680
Speaker 2: and he said that there were some components of vaccines

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01:41:54,680 --> 01:41:56,640
Speaker 2: that they're going to order to be taken out, and

1784
01:41:56,680 --> 01:42:00,160
Speaker 2: they don't want to group the vaccines anymore. He intimated

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01:42:00,200 --> 01:42:03,120
Speaker 2: that those were a problem too. Now here's what happened.

1786
01:42:03,880 --> 01:42:05,719
Speaker 2: You should go back and watch the whole thing yourself,

1787
01:42:06,080 --> 01:42:09,120
Speaker 2: so you can see. RFK came up afterwards and RFK

1788
01:42:09,720 --> 01:42:13,800
Speaker 2: did talk about the vaccines a lot more than the

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01:42:13,840 --> 01:42:18,360
Speaker 2: tail and all, and he said that forty to seventy

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01:42:18,400 --> 01:42:24,479
Speaker 2: percent of women who have autistic children are convinced that

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01:42:24,720 --> 01:42:27,400
Speaker 2: the vaccines caused the autism.

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01:42:27,840 --> 01:42:29,519
Speaker 3: Now, I don't know what I believe.

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01:42:29,560 --> 01:42:34,360
Speaker 2: I've written many articles over the years on quote anti

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01:42:34,479 --> 01:42:39,320
Speaker 2: vaxxers and how and the efficacy of vaccines. I've been

1795
01:42:39,360 --> 01:42:44,599
Speaker 2: an advocate for vaccines but also vaccine choice, and over

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01:42:44,640 --> 01:42:47,320
Speaker 2: the years I've written many articles and I've quoted all

1797
01:42:47,360 --> 01:42:50,519
Speaker 2: the research and you know, all of that good stuff.

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01:42:50,600 --> 01:42:53,840
Speaker 2: But you know, COVID taught me and a lot of

1799
01:42:53,880 --> 01:42:58,560
Speaker 2: people about quote the research, and that cuts both ways.

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01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:00,920
Speaker 2: I don't know what to believe there, I really don't.

1801
01:43:00,920 --> 01:43:03,559
Speaker 2: I think that cuts both ways. It's like, do I

1802
01:43:03,600 --> 01:43:09,360
Speaker 2: trust the old government research anywhere? No? No. But when

1803
01:43:09,400 --> 01:43:12,320
Speaker 2: you're really desperately looking for a solution and you belong

1804
01:43:12,360 --> 01:43:14,800
Speaker 2: to all these groups and they say, oh, it's the vaccines,

1805
01:43:14,840 --> 01:43:16,479
Speaker 2: and you start to get that in your head and

1806
01:43:16,479 --> 01:43:19,320
Speaker 2: then you believe it too, is that convincing as well?

1807
01:43:20,200 --> 01:43:23,479
Speaker 2: So I will say that my mind is more open

1808
01:43:23,520 --> 01:43:25,800
Speaker 2: on it than it's ever been because of the work

1809
01:43:25,840 --> 01:43:28,479
Speaker 2: that RFK has done. But I did note that he

1810
01:43:28,600 --> 01:43:33,360
Speaker 2: spent a long time talking about the vaccine problem, and

1811
01:43:33,680 --> 01:43:36,680
Speaker 2: I and Trump spent a short amount of time on it.

1812
01:43:36,960 --> 01:43:39,320
Speaker 2: And it made me think that maybe the real problem

1813
01:43:39,439 --> 01:43:42,639
Speaker 2: is the vaccines, and Trump chose the tailan All portion

1814
01:43:42,800 --> 01:43:45,639
Speaker 2: of it to focus on because he is not ready

1815
01:43:45,680 --> 01:43:48,519
Speaker 2: to take down Peiser, or if he ever will be.

1816
01:43:48,600 --> 01:43:49,840
Speaker 2: I don't know if you can. I don't know if

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01:43:49,880 --> 01:43:52,400
Speaker 2: you would want to. They do a lot of work.

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01:43:52,479 --> 01:43:55,040
Speaker 2: And I was thinking, well, tailand All's toast, right. The

1819
01:43:55,040 --> 01:43:57,519
Speaker 2: President just told everybody to stop by and tailan All,

1820
01:43:57,920 --> 01:44:01,520
Speaker 2: but to do that for one of our drug manufacturers,

1821
01:44:02,439 --> 01:44:04,880
Speaker 2: you know, maybe he thought twice about it. I'm guessing now,

1822
01:44:05,000 --> 01:44:08,519
Speaker 2: I'm guessing. I'm just making observations. I did notice that,

1823
01:44:09,400 --> 01:44:11,559
Speaker 2: you know, maybe we really do have a problem with

1824
01:44:11,640 --> 01:44:12,960
Speaker 2: the vaccines and.

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01:44:14,520 --> 01:44:15,080
Speaker 3: Our kids.

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01:44:15,880 --> 01:44:18,400
Speaker 2: I've never had any problems in my family. My children

1827
01:44:18,439 --> 01:44:22,479
Speaker 2: are vaccinated, but if I'm being honest, are not all

1828
01:44:22,520 --> 01:44:26,080
Speaker 2: the way vaccinated. I didn't get every vaccination. I'm a

1829
01:44:26,200 --> 01:44:29,960
Speaker 2: lazy mom. I just hate making the doctor's appointment. And

1830
01:44:29,960 --> 01:44:32,000
Speaker 2: then by the time I got older and I realized, oh,

1831
01:44:32,040 --> 01:44:34,479
Speaker 2: you don't really need these vaccinations, like you're fine you're

1832
01:44:34,479 --> 01:44:39,759
Speaker 2: not gonna get hepatized. B you now you're I realized,

1833
01:44:39,800 --> 01:44:42,880
Speaker 2: And so I never went back and got them excuse me.

1834
01:44:43,000 --> 01:44:46,519
Speaker 3: So my anecdotal research is a little lacking.

1835
01:44:46,520 --> 01:44:51,360
Speaker 2: It's got some holes in it. I'll admit that. So

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01:44:52,160 --> 01:44:55,320
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think though, again, going back to

1837
01:44:55,400 --> 01:44:58,439
Speaker 2: the theme of the show, as we shift the culture,

1838
01:44:58,520 --> 01:44:59,160
Speaker 2: it's going.

1839
01:44:59,000 --> 01:45:01,000
Speaker 3: To take years and year and years to.

1840
01:45:00,960 --> 01:45:04,759
Speaker 2: See how the work we're doing, the very uncomfortable work

1841
01:45:04,840 --> 01:45:07,679
Speaker 2: we're doing right now, how that is going to reset

1842
01:45:07,680 --> 01:45:11,080
Speaker 2: the culture. And the thing is, you guys, we're living

1843
01:45:11,120 --> 01:45:13,479
Speaker 2: in the best time because we get to see this

1844
01:45:13,600 --> 01:45:17,559
Speaker 2: culture shift with our own eyes. We're living it, we're

1845
01:45:17,640 --> 01:45:21,320
Speaker 2: witnessing it. We're parts of history. And when our grandkids

1846
01:45:21,360 --> 01:45:23,439
Speaker 2: come to us and they're going to write a report

1847
01:45:24,400 --> 01:45:30,360
Speaker 2: on the cultural revolution of the twenty twenties, they're gonna

1848
01:45:30,400 --> 01:45:32,360
Speaker 2: come to us and ask us, what was it like?

1849
01:45:32,760 --> 01:45:35,400
Speaker 2: This is my history book, says what was it like?

1850
01:45:35,439 --> 01:45:38,080
Speaker 2: And we'll go because we'll have been there, and we'll

1851
01:45:38,120 --> 01:45:40,360
Speaker 2: see the way they massage the stories and tell them

1852
01:45:40,360 --> 01:45:41,200
Speaker 2: from a certain point.

1853
01:45:41,040 --> 01:45:43,519
Speaker 3: Of view, will go, no, it was like this.

1854
01:45:45,520 --> 01:45:48,040
Speaker 2: By the time we get there, our grandchildren will have

1855
01:45:48,120 --> 01:45:50,360
Speaker 2: been baked in it, and they won't know what life

1856
01:45:50,400 --> 01:45:54,800
Speaker 2: was like with the lunatic left. They won't have lived it,

1857
01:45:55,920 --> 01:45:59,639
Speaker 2: and they'll be asking for stories about it. So gather

1858
01:45:59,720 --> 01:46:06,040
Speaker 2: your stories, make notes, make mental notes, save the newspaper clippings,

1859
01:46:06,920 --> 01:46:09,840
Speaker 2: do the things. Write your posts on Facebook that'll pop

1860
01:46:09,880 --> 01:46:12,320
Speaker 2: back up in your memories. Write a blog post, you know,

1861
01:46:12,640 --> 01:46:18,200
Speaker 2: get on record. Moments after Charlie died, I got on Instagram.

1862
01:46:18,320 --> 01:46:24,160
Speaker 2: Not because I wanted clicks or because I wanted attention,

1863
01:46:24,479 --> 01:46:28,200
Speaker 2: but because I knew that our culture had just shifted,

1864
01:46:28,240 --> 01:46:32,480
Speaker 2: and I wanted to be a part of the record. Everybody,

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01:46:32,720 --> 01:46:35,120
Speaker 2: it's time for you to get on record. We've been

1866
01:46:35,800 --> 01:46:38,559
Speaker 2: being polite for too long. Go get on the record.

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01:46:38,800 --> 01:46:42,360
Speaker 2: America needs you. Thanks for tuning in today. Go find

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01:46:42,400 --> 01:46:46,240
Speaker 2: me on Exit Real Cara Davis IgA, just Kiara Davis,

1869
01:46:47,000 --> 01:46:48,479
Speaker 2: Just Carea Davis on substack.

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01:46:48,720 --> 01:46:49,960
Speaker 3: This has been Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: God bless you, and God bless America.