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Speaker 1: This is a review of the movie called The back Rooms.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, so, uh, they can be found there. I
Speaker 1: think when we originally watched the review, we were interested
Speaker 1: in The back Rooms. Uh, we didn't know much about it.
Speaker 1: But we have finally seen the movie and that is
Speaker 1: what we are here to discuss. Is directed by King Parsons.
Speaker 1: So did you look him up? I did? I did? Did? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so we have background information on back Rooms and came Parsons.
Speaker 3: Yes, I didn't know none of this before the movie.
Speaker 2: I did not either. I did not either, So but
Speaker 2: I think that.
Speaker 1: That's so basically for those of you listening that may
Speaker 1: not know came, Parsons directed a YouTube series called The
Speaker 1: back Rooms.
Speaker 2: It's almost three hours long.
Speaker 1: He created this sort of fan fiction that started from
Speaker 1: a four chun board, and people started creating different stuff
Speaker 1: around it, and I think his was one of the
Speaker 1: most popular ones.
Speaker 3: The first video had like eighty two million views.
Speaker 1: Yeah this was back in twenty nineteen, is from what
Speaker 1: I saw.
Speaker 4: His age.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was sixteen when he started.
Speaker 1: Old yeah yeah so right now, damn yeah so so yeah, man,
Speaker 1: very very popular series.
Speaker 2: Did anybody watch any of this stuff on YouTube?
Speaker 4: I don't know about it. I had never heard of it.
Speaker 5: I'd never heard of it until I looked up stuff
Speaker 5: after the movie after this, just to see it, like
Speaker 5: where they got this concept from, And that's when I
Speaker 5: stumbled upon it too.
Speaker 1: I was so confused after the movie that I did
Speaker 1: go after I watched, because I watched it Thursday. We
Speaker 1: were talking about in the chat, and I went and
Speaker 1: and actually watched the series. Right, yeah, I watched forty.
Speaker 4: So I want to hear about that whenever rock comes over.
Speaker 4: I've never heard of forty X until y'all.
Speaker 1: Talk neither did I you did go, Toty, I went,
Speaker 1: I went, but I did not know about it.
Speaker 4: Just tell me, so was it cool?
Speaker 1: It's better for an action movie. I think the experience
Speaker 1: will be way better for a horror movie.
Speaker 5: The four walls, No, that's not it is, huh because
Speaker 5: because it's always what are you talking about?
Speaker 2: What do you mean?
Speaker 6: But there's always four walls, remember, But I didn't want
Speaker 6: to do him like that, like.
Speaker 3: Legal has four x where shows on the three walls?
Speaker 7: I do what you meant?
Speaker 4: I'm laughing at the way it interpreted your question.
Speaker 3: He didn't know what I mean?
Speaker 7: Right right?
Speaker 2: Is showing?
Speaker 4: Is it showing on the other two walls?
Speaker 7: I don't know?
Speaker 2: Me give myself together? Oh my god. But little Rocket
Speaker 2: explained a better that I can. I just saw what
Speaker 2: it does.
Speaker 1: And I was like, all right, fine, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: because and it was and uh so I went to
Speaker 1: the five pm showing because I was gonna go ten
Speaker 1: am on Friday.
Speaker 2: And when Rod said that, I was like, fuck it,
Speaker 2: I'm just going to go.
Speaker 1: And when I was looking at the tickets, like all
Speaker 1: of the seats were taken and it was only like
Speaker 1: a couple of seats left. So I was like, I'll
Speaker 1: just for each show. So there was no other show
Speaker 1: and I can go to that would have that I
Speaker 1: found that I wanted to go at this at the time,
Speaker 1: that would have been worth it.
Speaker 2: So I was just like, fucking, I'll just go to
Speaker 2: this one.
Speaker 4: And so what I read it was like it was
Speaker 4: it's like sound from all over the place, but it's
Speaker 4: also smells.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah that so the pool scene in this movie
Speaker 1: they they put yeah, yeah, you can smell it. It's
Speaker 1: an interesting experience, it really is. So, but yeah we
Speaker 1: see jackass like that. Nah, because you something like poking
Speaker 1: in the button. You've seen the trailer for that friend. Hell,
Speaker 1: you gonna be smelling doodoo the whole that's funny.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it was a crazy My third experience was
Speaker 5: I didn't know how popular this was. That's another thing
Speaker 5: that made me want to look it up after I left.
Speaker 4: It was packed. I was surprised. It was packed, Like
Speaker 4: front roll back.
Speaker 5: And you didn't do forty yet I didn't do I good,
Speaker 5: Like it was back to the point where people come
Speaker 5: in and just like taking seats. These little white boys
Speaker 5: like came in exact same thing like and they tried to. Like,
Speaker 5: so there was two white dudes and it was like, oh,
Speaker 5: we wanted to sit together. A black kid came in
Speaker 5: and he was like, no, it's cool man, we'll just
Speaker 5: shit right here with him and his girlfriend.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: But then this little girl came in and she wanted
Speaker 5: to sit with her friends, and uh, they were like, well, they're.
Speaker 3: In our seats. We just took their seeds. So you know,
Speaker 3: there's a.
Speaker 4: Seat right there if you want to time for that,
Speaker 4: y'all get the fuck up my mind.
Speaker 5: How Mama came and the black girl Obama came, She said,
Speaker 5: is this seat such? So I don't know what y'all
Speaker 5: need to do? He set right here. She wanted to
Speaker 5: see with her friends. So I thought that was funny.
Speaker 5: And then midway through the movie, like right when it
Speaker 5: was getting tense and like, what the fuck going on?
Speaker 3: This Doe starts snoring like the whole.
Speaker 2: Thing that's happened a couple of times.
Speaker 5: The whole theater, every people was laughing and ship and
Speaker 5: it was like right in front of me in a
Speaker 5: seat over so the dude next to me kicks kicked
Speaker 5: ask you if you did that, you kicked it back.
Speaker 5: So it was it was a crazy movie. Did experience
Speaker 5: I say to say it was jam packed in there?
Speaker 4: That's crazy?
Speaker 2: Was it yours? Mic?
Speaker 4: I don't remember if it was packed. Me and my
Speaker 4: girl went. I don't remember it being a packed theater.
Speaker 4: We went to the theater that's over on Memorial, the
Speaker 4: kind of new Ish one. And the thing is that
Speaker 4: theater fills up super quick because there's not that many seats.
Speaker 4: But I don't remember it being packed.
Speaker 1: Well, Rod and I ended up at the same one.
Speaker 1: Yeah the end.
Speaker 2: Yeah, YEA.
Speaker 7: Thing happened when we were at the Yeah.
Speaker 4: I didn't see he. I was walking out. He goes Mike,
Speaker 4: and I looked.
Speaker 7: I thought it was a fan of the show whatever,
Speaker 7: which which was funny.
Speaker 2: It was a fan of the show there. Yeah, so yeah.
Speaker 4: Maybe a different person.
Speaker 7: I heard Ken mm hmm. You guy came out behind me, right,
Speaker 7: I'm like, what's up, Ken? And then I turned around
Speaker 7: and there was another guy in front of me that
Speaker 7: he's like, oh ship, yeah yeah, so the same place right,
Speaker 7: So but yeah, I had sent it to you guys.
Speaker 2: I didn't know. I hadn't.
Speaker 7: I didn't even know this was the thing. This is
Speaker 7: I think this is the only one in Georgia. And
Speaker 7: are you think the only theater that does it, the
Speaker 7: only theater.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the South Foot, Yeah, the only.
Speaker 4: Interesting they would pick the Morrow Theater to be the
Speaker 4: only one in Georgia.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know why, but I think I think,
Speaker 7: I don't know, because it has everything else. They have Adobe, Cinema, Imax,
Speaker 7: it's never packed. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe just it's
Speaker 7: it's an advanced theater. I guess, you know, I know
Speaker 7: it's in Marrow, but it is.
Speaker 3: Things because it's one of the biggest.
Speaker 7: It's one of the biggest, and they were able to
Speaker 7: convert that one to that. Okay, but but now, yeah,
Speaker 7: it's all the sensories. It's like smell like like like
Speaker 7: just to hear like different type of sounds. Even like
Speaker 7: I said, the seats move like all of that, like
Speaker 7: it's a it's a real experience.
Speaker 2: Like seats moving is kind of nuts.
Speaker 7: Bro man, man, we'll get there. But yeah, it's some
Speaker 7: one telling them now when he when he fell down,
Speaker 7: when you had the rope, all of us are just
Speaker 7: like this like it was, but it added to it.
Speaker 4: It added to the experience. At drink in my hand.
Speaker 2: You don't have to do.
Speaker 1: A dude next to me had a dream and he
Speaker 1: had have to lit on it. So when it first started, saying,
Speaker 1: like in the first part of the kid that guy
Speaker 1: fell down in the opening scene, he had to lift it.
Speaker 1: Now it's just dumb ass fall so he lifted the
Speaker 1: drink up.
Speaker 7: And but it adds to the experience. I'm telling y'all,
Speaker 7: y'all gotta try it.
Speaker 4: I might go with something and not.
Speaker 7: I liked it so much that I took Dom to
Speaker 7: go see Mandalorian Grogu.
Speaker 4: I bet that was fun. Oh my god, for that movie.
Speaker 7: You know when it's snowing, they had snow come in
Speaker 7: like like like, but it like kind of displays before
Speaker 7: it like hits you like a little bit, the rain scenes.
Speaker 4: It's like missed in the theater. It was all of
Speaker 4: this stuff.
Speaker 7: When I went to go see Yeah, do that man,
Speaker 7: go see Go seek Uh. He actually posted about it.
Speaker 7: He's like, oh, man, I just had my first forty
Speaker 7: X experience. But he ain't say what movie it was.
Speaker 7: It was the Mendalorian. I might do that, man. Mandalorian
Speaker 7: would have great.
Speaker 2: Man. When I tell you, it heightens the experience, Go
Speaker 2: see Mandalorian.
Speaker 7: I'm telling y'all, if y'all, if y'all don't do nothing else,
Speaker 7: please go see men Luria.
Speaker 4: I think he Transformers the movie the fortieth anniversary. If
Speaker 4: they do that in forty X, I'm one hundred percent man,
Speaker 4: you'll see you have fun. I don't want to see
Speaker 4: a horror movie like that, because.
Speaker 2: Horror we can. I'm we can.
Speaker 7: It's it's a little like, man, what the hells? But
Speaker 7: but the action ship, the action ship, it really works,
Speaker 7: it really works.
Speaker 1: So uh so, yeah, it was packed in hours, and
Speaker 1: I thought that people were there just to experience forty yets.
Speaker 2: I had no idea. Why seem like you and I
Speaker 2: got there, Spike.
Speaker 1: I was at the top and this lady had her
Speaker 1: ship in my seat, so she had to move all
Speaker 1: that ship.
Speaker 2: I'm like you, you know this, motherfucker, Pat why would
Speaker 2: you even to do that? It's crazy.
Speaker 1: So anyway, but but I thought it was interesting because
Speaker 1: this is the second So what I think is, well,
Speaker 1: I get to that towards the end. But anyway, let's
Speaker 1: jump into the movie because I think we're kind of
Speaker 1: a couple of minutes in we even said really shit
Speaker 1: about the damn movie movie experience.
Speaker 2: Spike, did you like it? Hmmm?
Speaker 5: When I first walked out, I was like, what in
Speaker 5: the fuck was that? But as I thought about it
Speaker 5: more on the way home and over the last days,
Speaker 5: and then even look at the stuff, Yeah, I fuck
Speaker 5: with it.
Speaker 3: I think it was dope.
Speaker 5: It did everything I think you're supposed to get from
Speaker 5: a movie like it. I was intrigued that there was
Speaker 5: never a moment where I was bored. I was always
Speaker 5: wondering what was going on. Even at the end, I
Speaker 5: was like, Okay, what the fuck was that? So it
Speaker 5: made me just want to know more about this space
Speaker 5: and the stuff. So I think it did his job
Speaker 5: as a movie. I liked it.
Speaker 2: What about you, Matt?
Speaker 4: So me and my girl saw it and we both
Speaker 4: walked out, and she I could tell she liked it.
Speaker 4: She was grinning the whole fucking time. I like it
Speaker 4: a lot more now. In the moment, I was like,
Speaker 4: I really liked it until I figured out what it
Speaker 4: was trying to say. Then I was just like, all right,
Speaker 4: I don't know that I care, But I've been trying
Speaker 4: to figure out if my idea of what it's about
Speaker 4: is even right because I've not I don't watch reviews
Speaker 4: except for one channel fish Jelly reviews. These two Yo,
Speaker 4: you watch them, it's just a funny thing, gay couple
Speaker 4: of black guy the white guy. They don't really break
Speaker 4: anything down like that. So it's not like I don't
Speaker 4: watch other reviews that break stuff down because I wanted
Speaker 4: to infiltrate what I might think. They don't really do that.
Speaker 4: I just like listening to them, and they did not
Speaker 4: at all mention what I thought the movie was about.
Speaker 4: So I'm curious see if y'all think this too. But yeah,
Speaker 4: I now, as I've been thinking about the movie over
Speaker 4: and over again, I loved it. I really loved it.
Speaker 2: What about you, rot, I thought it was cool.
Speaker 7: It was definitely I think you saying it like, it
Speaker 7: was intriguing. It kept you on the edge of your seat,
Speaker 7: like trying to like, okay, what is going on? So
Speaker 7: I did a really really good job with that. And
Speaker 7: I typically don't like the twelve years of Slave dude
Speaker 7: like that, damn it, he was. I liked him here.
Speaker 7: I typically don't. I'm not a big huge fan of him,
Speaker 7: but I liked him here. Yeah. Like, so yeah, I
Speaker 7: think ultimately I think it did a pretty decent job yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I feel like the forty X did heightened experience.
Speaker 2: A little bit too.
Speaker 1: Hm, I think it took away from the experience a
Speaker 1: little bit because I felt like with this, I needed
Speaker 1: to just watch the movie and not be concerned that
Speaker 1: my seat's gonna shake.
Speaker 4: To make a lot of sense with this, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: But I've watched it twice because I had to host it,
Speaker 1: so I went back and rewatched it, and I definitely
Speaker 1: enjoyed it on the rewatch.
Speaker 2: Regular version.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, especially now that I also had more background information,
Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera, so that that helped as well, because.
Speaker 2: The first time I watched, I was like, what the
Speaker 2: fuck was that?
Speaker 1: And that's the ending, Like get the fuck off my screen,
Speaker 1: you know, because I think I don't know if we're
Speaker 1: in the same uh, we're in the same wave link
Speaker 1: in terms of what they were trying to say. But
Speaker 1: it was one point I was like, oh that's what
Speaker 1: y'all doing. I was like, all right, okay, cool, but yeah.
Speaker 5: I agree with Mike, Like I watched it and I'm
Speaker 5: walking out. It's just like it's stuck with you, Like
Speaker 5: you couldn't help with the thing. What the fuck. Like,
Speaker 5: my whole way home, I was thinking about that movie.
Speaker 5: So that's why I give it a lot of credit
Speaker 5: actually doing what he needed to do. And it reminded
Speaker 5: me of blair Witch a little bit about who blair Witch.
Speaker 7: Mike found film footage like blair.
Speaker 3: Witch a little bit in the beginning.
Speaker 1: But yeah, and that's kind of how the web series is.
Speaker 1: They do the found footage thing because it's probably easy
Speaker 1: to produce and suffer YouTube ship.
Speaker 4: That was a small gripe. We'll get to that though,
Speaker 4: but we saw it Thursday, and she probably won't get
Speaker 4: mad at me saying that. Damn it, every day she
Speaker 4: comes up. I thought something else when he said this.
Speaker 4: I think it meant this like four hours later, but
Speaker 4: I thought of something else.
Speaker 5: She doesn't do that with movies typically, So yeah, it's
Speaker 5: definitely one of those stays with you day with you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the feeling that I had to spike.
Speaker 1: I immediately somebody's like, you gotta go see this. I
Speaker 1: don't know why, you just gotta go see this.
Speaker 5: And they went to go see it and they was like,
Speaker 5: damn it was fucking amazing, doing like, yeah, they this
Speaker 5: a great piece of film.
Speaker 3: Type shit.
Speaker 1: They loved it, you know, and it's apparently it's doing
Speaker 1: really really well, you know, in terms of the box office.
Speaker 1: So he got a hit on his hands. Who's he
Speaker 1: K Parsons But twenty four. I think it's smart, So
Speaker 1: I said, I think it's smart, and I and you
Speaker 1: guys can tell me if you agree or not. But
Speaker 1: it seems like the Hollywood industry they're trying to find
Speaker 1: new IP and finding something like back rooms and giving
Speaker 1: this guy a chance to make a movie. I'm thinking
Speaker 1: about another video game movie I watched that was Packed
Speaker 1: that I didn't know about. So it's not like these
Speaker 1: hidden pockets of IP and culture that nobody know about.
Speaker 1: Because at some point we're done and they're gonna need
Speaker 1: something to kind of keep this thing going on. And
Speaker 1: finding fan fiction and stuff on the internet that's really
Speaker 1: really popular might be a direction that could work.
Speaker 4: I think they're taking a beat from the talk to
Speaker 4: me folks.
Speaker 2: Was that fan fish too?
Speaker 4: No, it was just they were on YouTube. They made
Speaker 4: a free movie on YouTube. Okay, I can't remember what
Speaker 4: it was called something in Honey that everyone loved, including me.
Speaker 4: So I mean, I think that's I think you're right
Speaker 4: it's looking elsewhere outside of Hollywood. Why wouldn't you go
Speaker 4: to YouTube. If you find somebody that did a YouTube
Speaker 4: video yep, two million views, why not try to give
Speaker 4: him a bigger budget and see if he can replicate it. So,
Speaker 4: and he's fucking twenty Yeah, he's twenty years old.
Speaker 3: It is the youngest filmmaker with a number one debut.
Speaker 4: Wow, good for him? Is dood for him? Has killed it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he did so anyway, So it's it's a lot
Speaker 1: twenty four.
Speaker 4: Oh, I know, I left the other one alone, but
Speaker 4: this one, y'all got to eat your words.
Speaker 3: What was the other one?
Speaker 4: Which? Yea, they taste good, don't they buy?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: That one they did the Drumma, Yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 4: And there was a horror movie we just we did
Speaker 4: recently that was a twenty four. I can't remember what
Speaker 4: it was called, though.
Speaker 1: Hey man, Rod, we put him on notices, bro, you know,
Speaker 1: we put let.
Speaker 4: Me go make sure that Ken and Ron are.
Speaker 2: Just but nah, man.
Speaker 1: So it's it's a lot, but not a lot, you know.
Speaker 1: It's the movie is is basically this guy, just like
Speaker 1: from the trailer, he sees this yellow border of light
Speaker 1: and goes goes in the back, but we open with
Speaker 1: scientists that are stuck there. He was separated from other
Speaker 1: two scientists that he was calling for.
Speaker 2: And uh.
Speaker 1: In the YouTube series they say you're supposed to go
Speaker 1: in three so so.
Speaker 4: Giving stuff away. I ain't seen the YouTube series yet.
Speaker 4: It's not that spoiler.
Speaker 1: It's not a lot to spoil. You can watch. I'm
Speaker 1: surprised you to watch a spike. You can watch a
Speaker 1: thing that's give you the whole timeline and get the
Speaker 1: gist of it.
Speaker 4: Interesting.
Speaker 1: But but yeah, so so yeah, and then you get
Speaker 1: a bird flying in and then you see this little
Speaker 1: weird thing which is this sort of sort of life
Speaker 1: for him, and the motherfucker take off running.
Speaker 2: He's trying to escape.
Speaker 1: He falls down and it's a revealed that the scientists
Speaker 1: of watching or this guy that we come to find
Speaker 1: out his name is, Yeah, Phil was watching this thing.
Speaker 2: The guy's also from.
Speaker 3: Yep, yep, Yeah, from the Morning Show.
Speaker 1: Yep, from the Morning Show. So off rep Did this
Speaker 1: interest you guys that all over the same?
Speaker 5: Yes, I think something will always be intriguing to me
Speaker 5: in films if they do it right. Is the found
Speaker 5: footage and worked in Blair, which it works in Cloverfield,
Speaker 5: like it just works just if you're building intrigue and
Speaker 5: wanting me to know. So I was hooked from the beginning.
Speaker 4: Same. I think it was a really really strong start.
Speaker 4: Uh I'm not always I mean, I like found for
Speaker 4: those films, but it got to be so oversaturated that
Speaker 4: they just started to get bad and then it would
Speaker 4: just become an issue where it's like, Okay, you've got
Speaker 4: to explain why the funk you're running around with a camera,
Speaker 4: because if monsters are chasing me, the last thing I'm
Speaker 4: gonna think document Oh shit, Oh I'm about to die, y'all. No,
Speaker 4: I'm not doing that. So I think starting off with
Speaker 4: this scientist who's clearly recording for some kind of research
Speaker 4: and the cameras in this helmet, I think that made sense.
Speaker 4: But yeah, man, when that fucking whenever that black thing
Speaker 4: got his ass, I was like, okay, all right, you.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we also see that, well, we learned later because
Speaker 1: there's this sign that you see.
Speaker 2: You start to get clues that things are reversed.
Speaker 1: So that sign, because I'm trying to read it and
Speaker 1: reverse is the no credit sign that's in the warehouse.
Speaker 4: No credit, no problem.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So right after that, we meet Mary. So we have
Speaker 1: two main characters, Mary and Clark. So we meet Mary.
Speaker 1: She's from the ann in the wall and her house
Speaker 1: is being torn down. It's all the other kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: And then afterwards that's when we meet Clark, who owns
Speaker 1: this store and yeah, Captain Clark. Yeah, yeah, the Ottoman Empire,
Speaker 1: you know that's what they call it. I just got it, Ottoman.
Speaker 4: I just got it. I just got you didn't get it,
Speaker 4: shut up. I just got it, y'all, y'all, y'all, y'all,
Speaker 4: I got y'all got it the first time, because before they.
Speaker 3: Went I was like, so he just said atoms or like,
Speaker 3: I didn't.
Speaker 4: Even think about ottoman I just black phons.
Speaker 2: Don't have ottomans.
Speaker 4: Yeah I got one at the wait I have one too,
Speaker 4: But I didn't think most black.
Speaker 7: That's the thing, right, I don't think they just don't
Speaker 7: call them what do we call them food?
Speaker 2: On the longs, I didn't even know they were called ottomists. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: then it's like, yeah, then they call ottomans. Was like, ottomans?
Speaker 4: Is that?
Speaker 2: Like that's that's what that thing is. Give me that
Speaker 2: piece of that couch, couch.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so they they their connection is that you know,
Speaker 1: he's in therapy and he's talking to her, and so
Speaker 1: we get introduced to basically what type of person he is?
Speaker 1: What did you guys think of? Like the therapy session
Speaker 1: them kind of giving us some idea of what kind
Speaker 1: of personality and character Clark is, and the role playing session.
Speaker 3: The role player was great.
Speaker 5: I don't usually I'm like you, right, I ain't really
Speaker 5: just the biggest man of this dude to a slave dude.
Speaker 3: I won't say I hate him, but he just ain't
Speaker 3: never blew me away. But he did good.
Speaker 5: And this scene right here and the therapist, I think
Speaker 5: both of them there both a good job. It was
Speaker 5: a good setup and it just you say, him as
Speaker 5: a character, it just made me look at him like
Speaker 5: he was kind of he was the problem, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, And he didn't feel like he was,
Speaker 5: like they stated later in the film.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, she was telling him, like you know,
Speaker 1: she was mentioning things like path least resistance, pushing people away, Uh,
Speaker 1: he's stuck right where it started, which is alone, those
Speaker 1: sort of things about his personality.
Speaker 2: And then Robber was learning that you know from this
Speaker 2: whole thing, that.
Speaker 1: He's a he's an alcoholic with a temper, you know,
Speaker 1: and he during this session completely goes off on his
Speaker 1: role playing wife, which is her, you know, And we
Speaker 1: learned about his wife and we never even met a
Speaker 1: professional student, want to have kids, He feels the pressure
Speaker 1: of falling for everything. He has this sort of male
Speaker 1: ego about that's my house and he got kicked out
Speaker 1: of his house, and we learned that he's an architect
Speaker 1: that didn't get a chance to be an architect, and
Speaker 1: then he just completely cusses her out.
Speaker 2: Right. Do you think that she took a personal when
Speaker 2: she was called fat. I don't know if she.
Speaker 7: Think it personal, but she she did feel it the anger, right, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 7: she could actually feel it or whatever, you know. But nah,
Speaker 7: it was really good role playing, like because even he
Speaker 7: had to snap out. He's like, wait, am I talking
Speaker 7: to you or her or whatever? He had to kind
Speaker 7: of figure out. Nah, I mean she, I mean she
Speaker 7: asked for it, she said, in this role place, he
Speaker 7: gave you what you wanted.
Speaker 4: He gave you what you asked for real. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: Did it look like to you might like she had
Speaker 1: to remember that that's role playing, is not real.
Speaker 4: No. I didn't take it that way.
Speaker 1: I just did look like it on her face that
Speaker 1: she had to come out of care. She took that
Speaker 1: a little bit.
Speaker 4: I mean, I definitely, I definitely want to watch it again.
Speaker 4: I didn't. I didn't take that from that scene. I
Speaker 4: more so took that she didn't like that he was
Speaker 4: putting all the onus on whoever his wife is. I
Speaker 4: took it because, I mean, therapists aren't supposed to tell
Speaker 4: you that you're a problem. But I took it in
Speaker 4: that moment, She's like, nah, this is this is fucked
Speaker 4: up what you did to your wife?
Speaker 7: No wonder she left.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I didn't take it that she took it
Speaker 4: personal that he was calling her fact because she's clearly
Speaker 4: some scrawny little white lady, you know.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so more about Clarke. He's filming this commercial
Speaker 1: and then we meet the other two people with the
Speaker 1: assistant manager and I guess her boyfriend, and they feeling
Speaker 1: the thing.
Speaker 2: Spike, how long? How hard did you laugh when he
Speaker 2: fell in the chair.
Speaker 4: He kept teasing it too.
Speaker 5: I just said he gonna fall at some point with
Speaker 5: the pig legs, that he definitely gotta fall. But yeah,
Speaker 5: I think it wasn't much in this scene.
Speaker 1: You don't think so, because I think I think there's
Speaker 1: a sense of humiliation.
Speaker 3: That's what I was about to get bad. I was
Speaker 3: just about to get to that.
Speaker 5: It wasn't much in the scene from what they did,
Speaker 5: but it did show that he was in this like
Speaker 5: desperate ass place and he was just like hoping for
Speaker 5: anything to go right or just be good. And hints
Speaker 5: him filming this commercial, the poirate uniform following on his
Speaker 5: face and the kids looking at him like he's crazy.
Speaker 3: But it felt really desperate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, saying opened the store, and she's like, we already opened.
Speaker 1: I think on a previous scene we saw the bills
Speaker 1: were late, and then that's when.
Speaker 2: We realized that his light bill is going up.
Speaker 1: And that uh, there's an electrician that's going there. And
Speaker 1: he takes him down to the breaker and we see
Speaker 1: the breaker that wasn't there.
Speaker 2: There's a part that's messed up.
Speaker 1: And we also found out that Clark is actually living
Speaker 1: in the warehouse, which made sense because he was kicked out,
Speaker 1: so all of this made sense, and that he's drinking,
Speaker 1: you know, and he's living this sort of this.
Speaker 2: Life of loneliness. It's white.
Speaker 1: The therapist just told him you're alone, and we see
Speaker 1: it and he's frustrated because the lights keep fucking flickering
Speaker 1: and shit, so he gets angry and then he goes
Speaker 1: down and we actually they kind of do a good
Speaker 1: job of, like the first night, kind of teasing and
Speaker 1: showing it him getting frustrated, cutting shit off, we're getting
Speaker 1: pissed off or whatever. And then the second night it
Speaker 1: happens again and he runs downstairs and turns everything off.
Speaker 1: Watching a horror movie, we say these things to ourselves,
Speaker 1: like when we were walking by a wall and we
Speaker 1: see a light. But Mike, if you saw this shit
Speaker 1: in a place that you knew up and down, and
Speaker 1: you saw a light in the wall, would you walk
Speaker 1: through it or be curious as to what's going.
Speaker 2: On over there?
Speaker 4: I would have. I would have done a few things
Speaker 4: before I walked through. First. Okay, I've seen enough movies
Speaker 4: to know that you don't just walk through a portal,
Speaker 4: and black folks should know this before anybody. So I
Speaker 4: was just like, bruh, what are you doing?
Speaker 7: You're just gonna.
Speaker 4: Walk through this? You saw twelve years of slave. You
Speaker 4: don't know what's on the other side of that shit.
Speaker 4: You just gonna right you were in it.
Speaker 7: Just don't learn nigger right.
Speaker 4: You wanted thirteen years? But nah, I would I would definitely, like,
Speaker 4: maybe throw something through it, make sure it you know,
Speaker 4: and then yankee back and make make sure it was okay.
Speaker 4: I don't know if I would just walk through the ship.
Speaker 4: But him, I could see why he did because he
Speaker 4: was so fucking frustrating, and you don't think that there's
Speaker 4: a portal here. You're just like, wait, why is there
Speaker 4: a light right here? Let me go look right?
Speaker 2: Would you have would you have been curious as to
Speaker 2: what was going on?
Speaker 7: No, bro, I'm calling somebody else, Like, Yo, it's this
Speaker 7: fucking light behind my wall. What's going on?
Speaker 2: Like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just but it's your It's like, but it's your
Speaker 1: place of business.
Speaker 2: Like he knows this warehouse.
Speaker 1: The bills are going up and there's this weird thing
Speaker 1: that's there. Yeah, there's no curiosity. I'm curious. I mean,
Speaker 1: but I'm not stupid. I'm curious. This is why I'm
Speaker 1: going to call someone. I need a professional. I'm not
Speaker 1: doing that. I don't know what's on the other side
Speaker 1: of that wall.
Speaker 2: Hm hmmm.
Speaker 3: Straight Spike, this movie would have been over ten.
Speaker 4: Years if I was.
Speaker 5: Hell, I don't never There was a couple like when
Speaker 5: he went through the walls like well I never would
Speaker 5: have did that, and then he kept walking for the.
Speaker 3: Hell no, he gonna keep going.
Speaker 7: You gotta be a person, yeah, like you gotta be
Speaker 7: like like a little don't care him.
Speaker 1: I think for him though it was like five, he
Speaker 1: was he's an architect, So for him, this is like
Speaker 1: I get a chance to explore this place that I
Speaker 1: didn't know existed.
Speaker 7: That's a saving grace.
Speaker 3: Okay, because I see it makes a lot of damn
Speaker 3: saving that doesn't make a lot of beau. He's wondering
Speaker 3: about the build.
Speaker 4: Now, I can understand that.
Speaker 3: Later okay, the.
Speaker 4: Official when he rocked his dumb ass in there and
Speaker 4: then kept going nah right later on when he was
Speaker 4: drawing the pictures and all that, I got the architect
Speaker 4: part then, because he's like, how the funk is all
Speaker 4: of this back here? But when he initially went through,
Speaker 4: I'm like, bro, what are you doing? Man? You're a
Speaker 4: black man in the horror movie.
Speaker 1: So to answer my own question, I would have been curious.
Speaker 1: I have all of the thoughts that you guys had.
Speaker 1: Maybe I would have took a piece of furniture and
Speaker 1: kind of stuck it through that.
Speaker 4: Exactly exactly right.
Speaker 1: Maybe I would have walked through and be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: hell no, this shit is weird. I'm taking my ass back.
Speaker 1: I'm with you guys. I would not have explored the area,
Speaker 1: you know, and but he did.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't have gone all the way through the door
Speaker 4: because I would have been paranoid that the door would
Speaker 4: disappear in.
Speaker 2: But you kind of did. When he tried to get out,
Speaker 2: he was like where is the door? Did the door
Speaker 2: move though?
Speaker 4: I think no. I think he just went to the
Speaker 4: wrong park. That's why he had to draw it on
Speaker 4: there later, so he knew exactly where it was.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, because I thought that mother was gonna be
Speaker 1: closed when he came back.
Speaker 7: I kept thinking that too. I kept thinking that too.
Speaker 7: But when they went back and trying to find where
Speaker 7: it was, Okay, it's in a specific spot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, what did you guys think about the world
Speaker 1: behind there? So you got this book back, which was
Speaker 1: left from the previous scientists that were there, and he's
Speaker 1: you know, we see floppy dis badges. You know, there's
Speaker 1: kind of chairs and shoes blending into the floor and
Speaker 1: all this other stuff.
Speaker 4: I guess to me has just shown just how long
Speaker 4: this has been going on.
Speaker 7: Whatever this thing is, it's dating back to a time
Speaker 7: or whatnot.
Speaker 2: It reminded me of.
Speaker 4: Jordan Peel's US with everything tethered.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so.
Speaker 7: That's what it kind of reminds me of, like this
Speaker 7: upside down world slash Stranger Things, like all of that shit.
Speaker 7: It reminds me of stranger things and us. One of
Speaker 7: the two things I was thinking about, if it sure
Speaker 7: gave me stranger things vibes. That's what I thought. I
Speaker 7: think they did a really good job. It was nothing
Speaker 7: there that was really scary. It was just creepy, and
Speaker 7: I think that's what this movie did, really will Like
Speaker 7: they weren't trying to scare you, just wanted to make
Speaker 7: you uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: Shit, what about when that life for him came that
Speaker 2: thing dropped up?
Speaker 5: Well yeah, I mean, of course that they had moments,
Speaker 5: but I think the majority of the movie movie, like,
Speaker 5: even in my theater, it was so tense in there.
Speaker 5: It was like it's so quiet, like you know, people
Speaker 5: usually like wrestling ship and getting popcorn out. It was
Speaker 5: just extremely quiet and tense, and I think the movie
Speaker 5: did a really good job of that, even a full theater.
Speaker 2: So yeah, we never I don't think we saw at
Speaker 2: that time.
Speaker 1: I think we just saw it tear up that that
Speaker 1: that thing that cut out, And then he did the
Speaker 1: smartest thing, the only smartest thing he ever did the movie.
Speaker 2: He got the fuck up out of there.
Speaker 4: Did y'all have to cut out outside of your theater?
Speaker 3: Cutout?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, it was outside of our theater. They had
Speaker 7: the little Man out there.
Speaker 2: Oh that's what it was paying attention to it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was the little the little cutout thing. Damn.
Speaker 7: They had it right outside the theater door.
Speaker 1: So we see Phil is watching the tape and then
Speaker 1: he went to tell his whole therapist about everything. Uh,
Speaker 1: this ship sounds crazy, but I think Mike one of
Speaker 1: the smartest things.
Speaker 2: He was asked, have you ever had fifty one to
Speaker 2: fifty somebody?
Speaker 5: Yeah, because I start the conversation right, Yeah, to know
Speaker 5: He's like, I.
Speaker 4: Must be crazy, I must be losing my fucking mind.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I thought in this scene he was the
Speaker 1: way he was describing everything, like his excitement with it
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. And even though it's timing, when
Speaker 1: he delivered the line he was like, why you look
Speaker 1: at me like that?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: That was funny. He was good.
Speaker 3: He was man, he did a great job in this movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, runing out even even like when he was like,
Speaker 1: it's like describing a dog to someone that's never seen
Speaker 1: that's what this movie's like.
Speaker 3: Yes, like that that was the perfect quote for this movie.
Speaker 5: Is like trying to trying to draw a dog describing
Speaker 5: it by someone who's not seen when this movie was
Speaker 5: exactly that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, so he said, all right, fine, out
Speaker 1: go get your proofd go get the other three people,
Speaker 1: his other assistant manager and stuff like that. I think
Speaker 1: she was one of the smartest persons in the in
Speaker 1: the whole show in terms of telling him not to go.
Speaker 4: But she went just like y'all was bugget all the assistance.
Speaker 7: Yeah, the cats from shrinking shrinking. Yeah, it was good
Speaker 7: to see her and yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Rod.
Speaker 1: Do you think that him finding that place, even though
Speaker 1: it seemed like it was dangerous, he went back, and
Speaker 1: I guess he kept going back doing new drawings and
Speaker 1: didn't really encounter this other theme that's there. Do you
Speaker 1: think or does it feel like he found purpose again?
Speaker 4: That's why I thought you were going with it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean because he actually says it at some
Speaker 7: point that uh, yeah, he like he likes it there.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying. He's comfortable there. It's a
Speaker 7: it's a place because I think everywhere else he was.
Speaker 2: He was alone.
Speaker 7: I mean, he didn't have, like you say, purpose, or
Speaker 7: didn't have many friends. He closed off, closed off some
Speaker 7: many people, but here he control it a lot more so.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I think he did actually enjoy being there.
Speaker 1: In Discovery, Yeah, the the this whole part we have
Speaker 1: like them exploring them being smartly tying a rope to
Speaker 1: the waist falling down the hill smartly.
Speaker 3: We thought it was. I didn't think that was made
Speaker 3: the most.
Speaker 4: If you're gonna go your eyes down there, at least
Speaker 4: I got a rope to pull you back up. They
Speaker 4: always do that movies.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 1: It just didn't work, but it was smart because he
Speaker 1: left the other part of the rope down there.
Speaker 7: I just feel like, do you have that much manpower
Speaker 7: to get him back up?
Speaker 2: Really? For real?
Speaker 4: It was a little scrawny dude. I think you would
Speaker 4: tell he could have pulled his ass up. I didn't
Speaker 4: see that. I mean, it was a solution, but it
Speaker 4: just didn't seem smart. Like if I went down there,
Speaker 4: you could easily pull me back up.
Speaker 2: Oh no, how much your way.
Speaker 4: You're pretty big dude. You can put me up.
Speaker 2: I probably, but.
Speaker 7: Too though, like I'm going against gravity. Yeah, I could
Speaker 7: probably pick you up. But just you going all the
Speaker 7: way down somewhere and me trying to continuously pick you
Speaker 7: it works.
Speaker 2: They pulled him up.
Speaker 1: The issue was they left the other part of the
Speaker 1: rope and the thing snatched and he couldn't get the
Speaker 1: knot off in time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he said, dude, what kind of notice?
Speaker 4: I tell you. One thing that got me though, is
Speaker 4: I didn't realize. I don't know how I miss this.
Speaker 4: I didn't realize the timeframe that the movie was in.
Speaker 4: So when it started, I was like, why is this
Speaker 4: fool wearing this fucking crop top? I was like, oh, okay,
Speaker 4: he's gay, got it all right. But then when he
Speaker 4: was like, oh, I know, it's fucked up for me
Speaker 4: to think that, but I did. And then he was like, oh, no,
Speaker 4: they're together, I was like, wait, what what is going
Speaker 4: on here? I didn't even notice anybody else dressed. That
Speaker 4: is true, like it was always noticed by the cars.
Speaker 4: I wasn't paying attention to the cars.
Speaker 1: I knew because of the YouTube series. Yeah no, I
Speaker 1: went back, I went reverse.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I didn't even know it was a thing.
Speaker 4: I was talking with Bees.
Speaker 2: I needed to know.
Speaker 3: I had to know.
Speaker 7: I was talking to be. Bee was the one that
Speaker 7: told me that it was. It started out on YouTube.
Speaker 7: I was just calling a Bee for something totally different.
Speaker 7: He's like, oh, that's that movie that's on YouTube. I'm like,
Speaker 7: what are you talking about?
Speaker 2: He's like yeah, I think I think they gotta. You know,
Speaker 2: it was created on YouTube first.
Speaker 4: I'm like, really, it was very popular, so I just missed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike did the this whole part where he's being snatched,
Speaker 1: the Pools scene, him walking through the Christmas tree, that
Speaker 1: all this stuff. Did you like this whole scene and
Speaker 1: how this played out to the point where him putting
Speaker 1: the camera down and getting snatched.
Speaker 4: I think Spike has something to say Ken.
Speaker 3: That there was a shirt down that it head and
Speaker 3: apart tid, did somebody else have it on?
Speaker 4: He did? He did the camera guy did see I
Speaker 4: want to I'm gonna get to it because I can
Speaker 4: already tell that y'all didn't pick up what I picked up.
Speaker 4: And I'm still trying to figure out if this is right.
Speaker 4: But going back when he first when he first went
Speaker 4: down there, did y'all see the face in the clothes? Yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't think most people in my theater saw You
Speaker 4: didn't see it, but no, there's a person face in
Speaker 4: the clothes.
Speaker 2: This shit freaked me out. Yeah, that's what freaked him out.
Speaker 4: Right, they didn't see it. They were pointing in the Okay,
Speaker 4: my theory didn't. I don't think any no one reacted.
Speaker 4: No one reacted. But no, when he first goes down there,
Speaker 4: there's a pile of clothes right to the left, and
Speaker 4: then there's then there's like a dark room to the left
Speaker 4: of that. But in the pile of clothes, there is
Speaker 4: a face in the clothes. So there's like a person
Speaker 4: in the clothes.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 4: It's quick, it's quick. They don't linger on it.
Speaker 2: Because but is that when he said what the fuck?
Speaker 4: Maybe he might have said what the fuck, but it
Speaker 4: wasn't about that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he didn't see the face.
Speaker 7: He didn't see the face. What did he say what
Speaker 7: the fuck?
Speaker 2: For?
Speaker 7: Man?
Speaker 4: Because he was down there there's a bunch of clothes
Speaker 4: and ship. He was like, there's a bunch of laundry
Speaker 4: down here. But he didn't see the face because he
Speaker 4: would have said something about there's a face down here.
Speaker 2: Are you sure it wasn't the cutout?
Speaker 4: No, I'm positive.
Speaker 2: I don't think it was the cut up.
Speaker 4: Positive it wasn't the cutout.
Speaker 7: And they had a smell here in forty X.
Speaker 4: What was the smell like?
Speaker 7: I couldn't It wouldn't like must, it didn't like stink.
Speaker 2: But it was just a smell. I can't even I
Speaker 2: can't even describe.
Speaker 7: Old room, something like an old It wasn't even like
Speaker 7: that because it wasn't like something that would make you
Speaker 7: six to your stomach.
Speaker 4: It was just like a weird It was just a
Speaker 4: weird smell. Yeah, yeah, no, I fucking loved all of this.
Speaker 4: But this is where I started to figure out, Oh,
Speaker 4: they're making a point, and I'm not sure I care
Speaker 4: about the point. But this part also has my gripe.
Speaker 4: When he put the fucking camera down, well, sorry, when
Speaker 4: he when when the when the dude the dude dies
Speaker 4: and uh Clark grabs the camera and he's running through
Speaker 4: the fucking maze with the camera. I was like, all right, bro,
Speaker 4: that doesn't make any sense too, And I just wish
Speaker 4: movies wouldn't do that. Make it make sense because everything
Speaker 4: else in this movie, even though that was weird, I
Speaker 4: understood it. But whenever you have found footage elements of films,
Speaker 4: they never bothered to explain why the fuck you would
Speaker 4: pick up the camera, Like your dude just died, got
Speaker 4: fucking eating up and sucked to a wall. I'm gonna
Speaker 4: pick up a camera and film while I'm running. Absolutely not,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna just fucking book it out of there.
Speaker 1: I think I gave it a pass because I just
Speaker 1: I just went along with him, just wanted to make
Speaker 1: sure that he didn't lose any other footage and that
Speaker 1: he wanted to continue to document what was down there.
Speaker 4: See that's too loose for me. Well, he wanted proof,
Speaker 4: I know, I get that, but that's just too.
Speaker 2: That's too but if you leave the camera, you don't
Speaker 2: have the proof.
Speaker 4: Does motherfucker just died?
Speaker 5: And I thought he I think he thought, dude with
Speaker 5: insignificant No, I don't think that at all. He I
Speaker 5: think he had become so obsessed to that point of
Speaker 5: wanting to like make sure that he had documentation.
Speaker 1: Dude, is like, if he thought that, then he would
Speaker 1: have just left. If he didn't he want to try
Speaker 1: to go save any of them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he wouldn't try to say the girl too. He
Speaker 4: would have just booked it out of there. Nah, I
Speaker 4: don't think. I don't know, And it's not a huge
Speaker 4: grip because I still loved the movie. I was just like,
Speaker 4: that doesn't Actually.
Speaker 1: They got knocked down there because the thing pulled the
Speaker 1: bed and pushed him down there.
Speaker 2: But still I think I still think he would have
Speaker 2: left if he didn't care about him like that.
Speaker 4: Then he picked up a camera. But I think that
Speaker 4: they just did that to add on to the point
Speaker 4: they're making. So y'all didn't take any real life references
Speaker 4: to this.
Speaker 8: Huh?
Speaker 1: I got something that now it sounded like it may
Speaker 1: be different later on in the movie. What did you
Speaker 1: get when they were having a conversation with the therapist.
Speaker 4: Okay, so when when me and my girl walked out,
Speaker 4: both of us got that this was a reference to AI.
Speaker 4: Oh no, I had a thing that happens in this
Speaker 4: is a think about it. What do people always say
Speaker 4: about AI. It's like trying to blain to someone what
Speaker 4: a dog looks like and then telling it to draw
Speaker 4: the dog. That's what people describe as AI is always
Speaker 4: drawing shit or creating images, and there'll be something that's off.
Speaker 4: If you watch the movie through that lens, everything is
Speaker 4: like that. So when you have you have the part
Speaker 4: where he's running down there with the camera, because first
Speaker 4: of all, you can go back to the sign that
Speaker 4: says no credit, no problem. How it's backwards. That's some
Speaker 4: AI shit. How all of the fucking chairs and the
Speaker 4: furniture are like stuck on the floor. They're just not
Speaker 4: arranged properly. That's AI shit. So yeah, when he put
Speaker 4: the camera down and then something picks up the camera
Speaker 4: and starts filming, I was like, Oh, this is AI
Speaker 4: trying to mimic what he's doing. Now. Later on, of course,
Speaker 4: when we get that the creature is a version of him,
Speaker 4: which we'll get to that later, I was like, Oh,
Speaker 4: I'm definitely that's definitely what this is. But I didn't.
Speaker 4: I was trying to figure out this part, and he
Speaker 4: was like, you're you're seeing a window. I don't see
Speaker 4: the window, so I can't get to you. Yeah, that
Speaker 4: part was fucking tense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, said look out behind you.
Speaker 4: Like she could see him but he couldn't see her.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Yeah, all this worked for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Spike, Right when that lady ran out from
Speaker 1: behind that Christmas tree.
Speaker 7: Bro, when the motherfucker clicked that light on that ship
Speaker 7: freaked me out, you remember, Yeah, because I didn't think
Speaker 7: he was gonna move the mother You can see it
Speaker 7: in the shadows, and I was like, oh, that fucking
Speaker 7: smooth Like people were saying.
Speaker 2: That in the theater, saying that ship.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, she ran out like this, Oh my god,
Speaker 6: get away from me. He was all it ass uh
Speaker 6: but then he got snatched up and uh but nah,
Speaker 6: all this was really good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all this it was intense.
Speaker 5: Well, you're gonna say, I was just gonna say to Mike,
Speaker 5: I didn't get AI. I just got like real world,
Speaker 5: Like he was trying to avoid the real world. This
Speaker 5: world was so bad, Like he became obsessed with this
Speaker 5: place it's not even real, and the escape ended up
Speaker 5: killing him.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: AI, But why AI?
Speaker 2: It don't seem like we were in that time.
Speaker 4: We weren't. That's why the nineties part kind of threw
Speaker 4: me off. But it could just be that they're trying
Speaker 4: to make a commentary on this is the evolving, Like
Speaker 4: we're now at a place where AI can do all
Speaker 4: this stuff. But remember when we when people first started
Speaker 4: doing AI, it was spitting back images with like twelve
Speaker 4: eyes and shit.
Speaker 2: And it was hallucinating all those stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you look at the people that it created, they
Speaker 4: look like what AI was creating when it was first
Speaker 4: starting to do this stuff. So, I mean, can I
Speaker 4: can explain more when it gets to the end when
Speaker 4: we talked to Phil, But again, I haven't seen anybody
Speaker 4: else say this. I don't know if I'm right, but
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure the fact that me and my girlfriend
Speaker 4: both got the exact same thing, I think that that's
Speaker 4: what's going on.
Speaker 1: I thought there's other part was interesting. I want to
Speaker 1: get you all you guys thoughts about this. Marrying her mom.
Speaker 1: First of all, with her background, she shouldn't be a
Speaker 1: therapist for anybody. I think that's why she wanted to
Speaker 1: be one.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's not true, because she had she's seen her mom.
Speaker 2: No damn therapist.
Speaker 1: She seemed like she was a lot of help. I
Speaker 1: don't know, Bro, she got her own problems, Spike.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying she had a couple.
Speaker 7: Of bars here and there for him. But yeah, I
Speaker 7: feel you. But now they say people that go through
Speaker 7: the trauma and overcome it.
Speaker 2: It's like that's the preacher say. I'd have been.
Speaker 4: Read him precisely.
Speaker 3: They gave her experience, and Dylan, her mama gave her experience.
Speaker 1: Mom was crazy, right, and with you know, she's living
Speaker 1: like she We see that she's she has a traumatic
Speaker 1: childhood walls, paper on the walls.
Speaker 2: And ship like that.
Speaker 1: Her mom's talking about they out there, they're gonna get
Speaker 1: her the question I have.
Speaker 2: We had car crash and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Do y'all think that her mom back then we're seeing
Speaker 1: these things experience.
Speaker 3: That's what I wondered with her mom experiencing the same thing.
Speaker 1: And they thought she was crazy, and that's why they
Speaker 1: locked her as up because.
Speaker 5: When he went and told her, it wasn't the look
Speaker 5: of totals just like you're crazy. She was familiar. It
Speaker 5: seemed like with what he was saying, like she had
Speaker 5: heard that before. So I think the mom experienced the
Speaker 5: same thing. That's what I got from because.
Speaker 4: I didn't get that. I just got that she was
Speaker 4: she was looking at him like, oh no, you're you're
Speaker 4: you're losing it. I didn't get that she picked up
Speaker 4: that her mother had seen these same beings because it
Speaker 4: was why would her mother have been at that store?
Speaker 1: Because out at the store, I think the world just
Speaker 1: started just became so expansive, or it just had.
Speaker 3: The scientists well even then, is that the only access
Speaker 3: point where.
Speaker 4: That the scientist kind of kind of implied that because
Speaker 4: it was they were only at the store and they
Speaker 4: were pulling I mean, maybe I misread this part, but
Speaker 4: he holds up the sign he's like, is this where
Speaker 4: you in? But how would he even know the address?
Speaker 1: It was on the news and yeah he had saw
Speaker 1: he had saw him on the tape and then he
Speaker 1: saw him. I think this later on he was making popcorn.
Speaker 1: He saw him on the commercial and it was.
Speaker 2: Like, oh shit, like, oh.
Speaker 1: This is where there's another assets point that we didn't
Speaker 1: know about, which is how they got there.
Speaker 4: So but I took it like that. So when we
Speaker 4: start the movie, the place that the first scientist was in,
Speaker 4: it looked like that room. It was, yeah, but that
Speaker 4: room was based yeah yeah, no, no, no, no, yeah, it
Speaker 4: was definitely that same room because they had the no credit,
Speaker 4: no problems. It was right.
Speaker 3: But what was the significance than of them tearing the
Speaker 3: house down?
Speaker 4: Like because real world memories kept her from buying into
Speaker 4: all that ship. So remember when when we're skipping ahead.
Speaker 4: But the only reason she was able to even beat
Speaker 4: the in my opinion, the AI version of Clark was
Speaker 4: she had that real life, tangible memory of her as
Speaker 4: a kid, and they kept referencing back like your childhood
Speaker 4: and these things from your childhood, you know, saving you
Speaker 4: to a degree. So I think that's why, But I
Speaker 4: don't I never got the impression. And again I only
Speaker 4: saw it once. I never got the impression that her
Speaker 4: mother was seeing those things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just I was I was just wondering
Speaker 1: what it was. She was like, they're out there and
Speaker 1: they're gonna get us or something like that. I thought
Speaker 1: that was really odd. But she was much much younger.
Speaker 1: We don't know how well. I have an idea because
Speaker 1: I saw the web series, but we don't know in
Speaker 1: this movie how long these things has been occurring, and
Speaker 1: it's been around, and while she was so paranoid, so
Speaker 1: I'm unsure. I was just wondering if you guys thought
Speaker 1: the same thing. But Clark gave her a call and
Speaker 1: left the message on her machine that he's not coming back.
Speaker 1: Says he opened the window and that he won't be
Speaker 1: coming back. And then, of course, as I mentioned, we
Speaker 1: get a cut away of Acinc. Which is the firm
Speaker 1: research when a grant for some MRI hardware, which eventually,
Speaker 1: as he said at the end of the movie, that's
Speaker 1: what they started out of, started out of ass and
Speaker 1: it became much bigger. But Mary took her ass to
Speaker 1: the store Rod and she she was actually the smartest
Speaker 1: parts for a little bit, well, she kind of put
Speaker 1: a finger in there, but when she saw the damn
Speaker 1: fly wing in, she she was anywhere.
Speaker 2: So she walks in.
Speaker 1: She does her exploring, and then Clark peaches ass around
Speaker 1: the corner, puts her in the choke hold. Strangers her
Speaker 1: says it's for her life because there's this big loud
Speaker 1: rumbling thing that they heard. We also, you're skipping ahead.
Speaker 1: That's not what he said. Remember what he said to her.
Speaker 2: I'm doing this for the way.
Speaker 1: Uh oh wait wait wait wait, wait, hold on, I
Speaker 1: didn't write it down.
Speaker 4: Right before he chokes her, he says, don't worry, it's
Speaker 4: just me.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 4: Yes, telling y'all man, I'm I'm pretty sure I'm not
Speaker 4: crazy here. It was an AI version of him. It
Speaker 4: was just fucked up. Yeah, because it draws back when
Speaker 4: they're in the therapy session. He's saying to her, the
Speaker 4: devil's in the details. You think something as a dog,
Speaker 4: and then you look closely at it and something's.
Speaker 1: Off and on the wall there's the life form that
Speaker 1: they're seeing down there. Why I think, in terms of magic,
Speaker 1: be realistic here and now it's the two way street
Speaker 1: tables don't bleed, just all kinds of weird shit. Look
Speaker 1: like Clark was walling off parts of it, and yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a note right there.
Speaker 2: Yep, yep. Yeah. He then tells it to stay calm,
Speaker 2: and that's only him that's walking up. Yeah yeah, right.
Speaker 1: Did y'all think, going back to the message, he was
Speaker 1: trying to lure her down there?
Speaker 4: I don't think that that's what he was doing, because
Speaker 4: why would he think that his therapist, of all people,
Speaker 4: would care enough about him to be like, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: go check it out. Because that's what I was thinking.
Speaker 4: I was like, a therapist isn't gonna do.
Speaker 5: This unless I'm unless her mom was going through it.
Speaker 5: That's the only reason I gave that. I was like,
Speaker 5: she's familiar with this in some kind of way.
Speaker 4: She didn't seem like she was familiar when she got
Speaker 4: her ass down, right, She didn't when he said don't worry,
Speaker 4: it's just me. She didn't say, oh, okay, cool, my
Speaker 4: mom saw this shit.
Speaker 7: She was like, what the fun?
Speaker 4: Wait? Why are you chicking me?
Speaker 2: But she never saw what her mom saw because of
Speaker 2: her letter.
Speaker 4: Right, But that's why it wouldn't make any sense for
Speaker 4: her to be like, oh, well, my mom' saw these
Speaker 4: same things, so I'm gonna go check it out. How
Speaker 4: would she even know her mom's all those same things.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know so well either way, he choked her out,
Speaker 1: and then we see her mom was committed, yes, and
Speaker 1: that she actually went back to her house.
Speaker 2: It seemed like.
Speaker 1: But anyway, so now we get a little bit more
Speaker 1: about this place. He said that this place builds the people.
Speaker 1: So she wakes up and there's this guy who has
Speaker 1: like six highs, the guy with in a wheelchair from
Speaker 1: the Christmas tree, you have the lady that's in the
Speaker 1: red dress. And he tells us that this place bills
Speaker 1: them and that over time it misremembers them. He also
Speaker 1: tells us that they can't feel pain, and he shows
Speaker 1: us and that you can eat them. And then he
Speaker 1: says he asked how good it must feel to not
Speaker 1: feel pain, ego thoughts, or fear, to just exist like furniture.
Speaker 1: So this is where I thought the movie was about
Speaker 1: more about just him and just giving you know, his
Speaker 1: trouble pass, their trouble pass. Like this was just about
Speaker 1: how the insides of us can be dark and twisted
Speaker 1: and fucked up, and that we try to push aside
Speaker 1: or bury the dark things that happened to us but there,
Speaker 1: but because of that, we don't really address them. I
Speaker 1: thought it was more about mental health. They seen the
Speaker 1: Love Maker movies about that nowadays.
Speaker 4: I didn't get that when I saw when I saw
Speaker 4: the twelve eyes on the dude, I was like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm not nuts. And then when he said this thing
Speaker 4: builds people, actually it remembers them, but when it does,
Speaker 4: it remembers them slightly wrong. And then when he was
Speaker 4: talking about the guy in the striped shirt, he said, yeah,
Speaker 4: out there, there's probably a guy in a striped shirt,
Speaker 4: but in here he's slightly off. All of that says
Speaker 4: Ai to me. Now, the whole edible thing, I have
Speaker 4: no fucking clue. I have no idea what that means.
Speaker 1: Well, I thought that it was just symbolic of like
Speaker 1: eating away, of eating at pain, you know, And that
Speaker 1: was just that's what I got, attaching it to him
Speaker 1: just not even wanting to deal with all of the
Speaker 1: shit that's been going on in his life. Remember that's
Speaker 1: what she was telling And she even told him in
Speaker 1: the scene. She was like, all this shit is your fault.
Speaker 1: You don't want to set responsibilities, and she just kind
Speaker 1: of laid it out to him and and that was it.
Speaker 2: So they had this whole session. So that's what I
Speaker 2: was thinking it was about.
Speaker 4: But this is also right after the part he says
Speaker 4: to the woman that's behind him, who also has the
Speaker 4: multiple faces, which is something AI used to do. He
Speaker 4: says to her, go turn the light out, and the
Speaker 4: thing doesn't do anything, and he says it multiple times
Speaker 4: and it doesn't listen. We always go through this, and
Speaker 4: then he says, well, I'll just go do it. This
Speaker 4: is still my house. This to me was a person
Speaker 4: giving AI a prompt and the prompt not working.
Speaker 2: Do you think that house was a replica of his house?
Speaker 4: I yeah, the house that he was in I think
Speaker 4: was a replica of his house. Wondering because he was
Speaker 4: talking about memories and you know, I again, I think
Speaker 4: that that has to do with you feed AI what
Speaker 4: you want to feed it, and then it just takes
Speaker 4: what you're giving it and it fucking spits something out
Speaker 4: and half the time what it spits out is just
Speaker 4: half way wrong.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. It's not sold on the AI thing yet.
Speaker 4: I'm not all the way sold on it, but I'm
Speaker 4: like nine, it makes this was a commentary on AI.
Speaker 7: It makes sense, But I don't know.
Speaker 2: What are you thinking?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: You got any.
Speaker 7: Right now? Like I said, just a just an altered
Speaker 7: kind of universe and like like like like I said,
Speaker 7: like the like the Stranger Things and like the like us, uh,
Speaker 7: we're we're tied to this altered.
Speaker 4: Universe of our of what reality is.
Speaker 7: So it's like a distorted reality away from our normal reality.
Speaker 7: I feel like they had the commentary in it, but again,
Speaker 7: like I like y'all saying here, I would have to
Speaker 7: see it, you know again, you know what I'm saying
Speaker 7: to kind of get the dialogue here, because I'm sure
Speaker 7: it says it in the dialogue at some point, especially
Speaker 7: between therapists, because they say something about looking through the
Speaker 7: window and things like that and obviously just being closed off,
Speaker 7: like where you where are you throwing?
Speaker 4: Where are these things going? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: I heard that reversing a lot, like like yeah, when
Speaker 7: you shut off different people and.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you know he cut the lady's wig off.
Speaker 1: I don't know if y'all like that ship and put
Speaker 1: it on her head.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because he wanted it to look like he wanted
Speaker 4: he wanted the therapist that he was arguing with to
Speaker 4: look more like his wife. Which that was still another thing,
Speaker 4: because it's like people talk to AI like it's, you know,
Speaker 4: a relationship, but it doesn't look exactly how you want
Speaker 4: it to, so you force it to look like.
Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong, their lines up, it's just the
Speaker 2: timing justice some.
Speaker 1: Of the other dialogue ride when they were going through
Speaker 1: this whole because now he's initiating the role playing session
Speaker 1: and so a couple of things she explodes on him.
Speaker 1: She just lets him have it. That's why I told y'all,
Speaker 1: she chid, uh he needed like this, Yeah, because she
Speaker 1: said is the perfect Okay, so you think she was
Speaker 1: right Spike that he winds and doesn't accept responsibility for
Speaker 1: ship's everything.
Speaker 7: A therapist probably want to say to you, Yeah, that's
Speaker 7: what I'm saying. So it's just like, I don't know, man,
Speaker 7: it's like this alternate thing down there.
Speaker 1: And then Clark even walk with Mike he had he
Speaker 1: admits that he likes it there. He said he feels
Speaker 1: like this is right where he's supposed to be, and
Speaker 1: it's almost like he's hiding away from the rest of
Speaker 1: the world, and the way she exploded to him. He
Speaker 1: was like, damn shit, you're fucking right. And then that's
Speaker 1: when he kind of agreed to let her go. But
Speaker 1: and I'm trying, I'm trying to remember what she said
Speaker 1: because I wonder if this was also her unpacking her
Speaker 1: issues on him, and the role playing sort of switched
Speaker 1: because she had the mama issues because she had dreamed
Speaker 1: about a mama right before she walked up.
Speaker 4: I don't remember anything. I don't remember her saying anything
Speaker 4: that related to her child. I remember her just going
Speaker 4: off on him, saying that he's always blaming his issues
Speaker 4: for something else. If it's this, you're gonna say it's this.
Speaker 4: If it's you know, if this happens to you're going
Speaker 4: to say it's this other thing. And then she's like, oh,
Speaker 4: and if you if this happens, you say it's your brain.
Speaker 4: But you are your brain, you fucking dip shit. I
Speaker 4: remember all that. I don't remember that that was it.
Speaker 1: I think that was at her mom because I didn't
Speaker 1: understand the brain thing.
Speaker 2: Did he say the brain thing? Does it seemed to
Speaker 2: come out of nowhere?
Speaker 4: I don't know if he said that or not, I don't.
Speaker 4: I didn't again, I gotta see it again. I wasn't.
Speaker 4: I wasn't taking anything she said as a reference to
Speaker 4: her mother.
Speaker 1: That line threw me off because I was like, when
Speaker 1: did he say something about the brain?
Speaker 2: You are your fucking brain, you dip shit.
Speaker 4: Well I think it's I think she was just commenting
Speaker 4: on the fact that every time something is happening, you're
Speaker 4: blaming it on something else, and you're constantly acting like
Speaker 4: everybody else is the problem, when in reality, maybe you're
Speaker 4: the issue. But that is something that a I would
Speaker 4: not tell you. AI was gonna tell you what you know.
Speaker 4: It's only going to base its responses on on what
Speaker 4: you feed it. So he was trying to get the
Speaker 4: answer that he wanted. So that's how I took that
Speaker 4: whole scene, especially when we get to the to the
Speaker 4: to the eating.
Speaker 1: Party again walks in, Yeah, the darker version of Clark
Speaker 1: because at this and this is why I'm kind of
Speaker 1: wondering if it was there's this darker version of him.
Speaker 1: And when he finally was like, damn, you know what,
Speaker 1: You're right, the darker version, it was like, ah, shit, shit, well,
Speaker 1: I gotta get rid of you, because this darker, twisted
Speaker 1: side of me is killing everything. Here's another thing I
Speaker 1: was wondering, y'all, is that I wonder if we see
Speaker 1: not to jump ahead, but we see their other verse.
Speaker 1: We know there are other versions of them in there.
Speaker 1: So I wondered if the white guy was killed by
Speaker 1: another version of him. And I guess Clark killed the
Speaker 1: assistant manager. I think he said that the one that
Speaker 1: was in the refrigerator. But I was wondering if the
Speaker 1: white guy because remember there was a white shirt end
Speaker 1: of Apartho, So I'm wondering if his version killed him
Speaker 1: the way that Clark version was killing everybody else.
Speaker 7: I thought you were going to explain that part, I thought,
Speaker 7: because you brought that up. We notice the head that
Speaker 7: was down there. What were you implying as far as
Speaker 7: the guy was concerned, because it's.
Speaker 4: I don't know that it was I was implying anything
Speaker 4: specifically about the guy. I think that that was AI
Speaker 4: trying to create. So everything that AI created, or everything
Speaker 4: the back rooms created, was slightly off. So I don't
Speaker 4: know if that was a person within the clothes or
Speaker 4: if that person was connected to the clothes. All I
Speaker 4: know is there was a face inside the clothes. And
Speaker 4: again this trace is back to how people described how
Speaker 4: AI was in its infancy. You would tell it, create
Speaker 4: me a building, and it would create a building, but
Speaker 4: then there'd be like a random ass fucking window that
Speaker 4: makes no sense, or you know, you see, even now
Speaker 4: it says, well, create give me a give me an
Speaker 4: AI picture of Donald Trump, and Donald Trump will have
Speaker 4: seven fingers because AI is quote unquote learning, but it
Speaker 4: hasn't perfected this kind of ship yet, but it mimics,
Speaker 4: that's the thing. So that's why I think that whole
Speaker 4: part meant like when he when Clark is eating the
Speaker 4: weird back rooms people, Captain Clark, no, just regular Clark, right,
Speaker 4: and then Captain Clark comes in picks him up and
Speaker 4: bites him. I think that that was supposed to reference,
Speaker 4: like AI learning, AI mimicking people, because it was like,
Speaker 4: why would he bite him? Why wouldn't he just fucking
Speaker 4: break his neck?
Speaker 2: Because because I was thinking that it was like.
Speaker 1: That he was willing to change and he accept the responsibility,
Speaker 1: and that version of him in that world wants to
Speaker 1: be in that world, right, And so again I think
Speaker 1: I also think it was kind of symbolic of eating
Speaker 1: where at the pain or whatever, because he was like,
Speaker 1: it's okay, she says, we don't have to change exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So that's what I was thinking, you know. But all
Speaker 1: I know is that the other lady didn't wait to
Speaker 1: stand around and find out that motherfucker was out bro.
Speaker 1: She already knew what something and the other thing I
Speaker 1: can't figure out if because because I think the scientists
Speaker 1: may have been killed by a version of him, and
Speaker 1: I think Clark's version was running around killing them, but
Speaker 1: then Clark's version attacked her.
Speaker 2: But I think because she convinced him to change that
Speaker 2: she was a threat.
Speaker 4: He never bought into it. That's why she didn't have
Speaker 4: I don't think he had a version in there, not
Speaker 4: at that time. We get to her version later, yes,
Speaker 4: but it wasn't created in that time like it was created, Okay.
Speaker 4: So I think that there was a version of the
Speaker 4: The End of Apartheid guy and probably the assistant because
Speaker 4: they've been going into that store, so the store had
Speaker 4: seen them, so it would it would have created another
Speaker 4: version of them. I can see that, but I don't
Speaker 4: think it would have created another version of the doctor
Speaker 4: because she never been there.
Speaker 2: She hadn't been there enough.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well anyway, this last scene is just her
Speaker 1: being chased by Captain Clark.
Speaker 2: What did you guys think about all of this that
Speaker 2: was happening.
Speaker 1: I will say that when she was jumping on the
Speaker 1: front of this lady for whatever reason beside me Rod,
Speaker 1: when she fell and Mester Bretney.
Speaker 4: She jumped my theater, did I say somebody might who
Speaker 4: really big deal?
Speaker 7: They were doing anything else too?
Speaker 4: I was like, what it was like, what's the big deal?
Speaker 7: She just tripped?
Speaker 2: Okay, well, okay, I guess that's start folks.
Speaker 4: I guess so that was weird.
Speaker 1: But uh, despite what you think, what you'all think about this? Anybody,
Speaker 1: what y'all think about this final chase scene of a
Speaker 1: white woman and chased by a large black man.
Speaker 4: I thought I thought they executed it well.
Speaker 7: I thought they did it well, Like especially like the
Speaker 7: slow chase.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he not moving faster.
Speaker 7: You think he's not moving fast enough, but he's right there.
Speaker 7: And just the way he was looking just looked crazy
Speaker 7: so like and just the way the cameras, you know,
Speaker 7: you kind of see him getting closer, like even when
Speaker 7: he's it's like, I don't.
Speaker 4: Know, man, I don't know.
Speaker 7: It was just something intriguing about it, just like how
Speaker 7: the rest of the movie was in the back rooms
Speaker 7: when you go through them. They did the same thing
Speaker 7: with the chase. They did the same thing with the chase,
Speaker 7: and they executed it really, really well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 5: I think that the chase was great because in the
Speaker 5: back room, like you never knew what was gonna pop up,
Speaker 5: Like in a normal chase, you know, the one stretch
Speaker 5: they get away or they go through this door, they
Speaker 5: maybe can get away here.
Speaker 3: You never know what you're running in.
Speaker 2: Trying to constantly watch it.
Speaker 7: At some points it's like, oh, he's right there, like
Speaker 7: going there, you don't know what's in there.
Speaker 4: So it was good and they good shot.
Speaker 7: They did a good job because how did he ended up?
Speaker 2: She uh fall? He had up falling smart?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I did that.
Speaker 3: That's what I was thinking.
Speaker 5: They donna catch me in there, right, he would have
Speaker 5: caught your ass, BI, we probably would have.
Speaker 4: You went out of places to go.
Speaker 2: Well, they had to.
Speaker 1: Weaken her so they you know, have heard her legs
Speaker 1: make her wound Doug, So yeah, it made to make
Speaker 1: it make more sense.
Speaker 5: The door ship was crazy walk and then you go
Speaker 5: and all of them were broke off.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I could have, I guess I
Speaker 2: would have had no choice.
Speaker 3: I'm too clumps, I would I would have filled off
Speaker 3: the steps ship.
Speaker 1: Oh that was like yeah, But she makes her way
Speaker 1: all the way back out and now they're a container
Speaker 1: set up. So Phil found the location and went up
Speaker 1: and set everything to make sure that nothing gets out,
Speaker 1: and she trips over the cutout and sets gas off
Speaker 1: in the whole motherfucker.
Speaker 2: So she gassed fuck herself.
Speaker 1: And because she fail, she's crawling on the ground, which
Speaker 1: enabled the thing Captain Clark to grab her. So, Mike,
Speaker 1: you were saying earlier that she was killing this thing with.
Speaker 4: She killed it with the impression of her house. Why
Speaker 4: is she walking around with that ship anyway?
Speaker 7: Who knows it was sentimental?
Speaker 2: I think?
Speaker 4: But yeah, but why was she caring because it was
Speaker 4: at her house before?
Speaker 7: Why did she even I felt like it was like
Speaker 7: a security thing. Yeah, okay, I.
Speaker 4: Think it's probably that, and it served to make the
Speaker 4: point of you know, she had a tangible thing from
Speaker 4: her memories and that's what stopped the AI Clark. She
Speaker 4: never gave in to accepting that this is a real place.
Speaker 4: She was just like this is fucked up and I
Speaker 4: want to get out of here. I don't want to
Speaker 4: be here, you know. And the same with the assistant.
Speaker 4: The assistant never wanted to stay there, that's true, Yeah,
Speaker 4: killed her. Same thing with the apartheid guy. He was like,
Speaker 4: I don't want to be here, and it killed him.
Speaker 4: But when it captured Clark, Clark eventually was just like, Okay, well,
Speaker 4: I guess this place is all right. I'm gonna stick around.
Speaker 1: No, the part I got he he was excited about
Speaker 1: being there. I think just the first yeah, it was
Speaker 1: like I'm out. Yeah, But you're right about the assistant manager,
Speaker 1: because Clark even said he was like, yeah, I tried
Speaker 1: to get on board. Machine want to listen. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, you see where she at.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it.
Speaker 4: Sounds I mean, I know, y'all not all the way
Speaker 4: on board, but that sounds again to me like someone
Speaker 4: trying to push the whole AI on somebody. If you
Speaker 4: don't accept it, you're gonna get left behind. And he
Speaker 4: even said it when he stabbed the dude in the head,
Speaker 4: he was like, they don't feel pain. They're like furniture.
Speaker 4: They're not real they're they're not based in reality, They're
Speaker 4: just based on what I have fed them. Like the
Speaker 4: idea is that I that have been fed to this thing.
Speaker 4: But now the end sequence was was was really good,
Speaker 4: really good. I bought that she couldn't get away from
Speaker 4: that fucking thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they made it all make sense, Like came
Speaker 1: really do the job of making everything that happened to
Speaker 1: her made sense, even her getting blasted when she walked
Speaker 1: through that hole and then fucking science scientists, he flasted the.
Speaker 2: Funk out of it.
Speaker 4: I want to do the found what you want? Was like,
Speaker 4: what the fuck is that?
Speaker 2: He lit her ass up with that damn cad.
Speaker 1: And then we get the end of the movie where
Speaker 1: Phil is just basically trying to interview her about the experience,
Speaker 1: but we find out he goes there every day and
Speaker 1: he wants to know about and he says he wants
Speaker 1: to know about the doors. He said, doors are opening everywhere,
Speaker 1: And this is why I was starting to think that
Speaker 1: these doors have been out there. Her mom probably was
Speaker 1: in one of those zones way back in the day.
Speaker 1: And then I think she starts to kind of zone out,
Speaker 1: and she's remembering her mom's old house which was bought
Speaker 1: by something called crest Ridge Towers. And then we started
Speaker 1: to see just different scenes of like the neighborhood turning
Speaker 1: inside and out. So Mike's thinking, AI, what did you
Speaker 1: guys think about the interrogation?
Speaker 2: Huh?
Speaker 4: What was the very last scene?
Speaker 2: Oh? And then of course her being in there all
Speaker 2: like this.
Speaker 4: Did you notice that it wasn't her? It was it
Speaker 4: was an AI? I think AI, but it was the
Speaker 4: face was fucked up. It was like multiple versions of
Speaker 4: the eyes.
Speaker 2: And was a version of her?
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, But this was right after they went
Speaker 4: through all of her memories, so I think this was
Speaker 4: her memory, you know, remembering what she went through as
Speaker 4: a kid or whatever. The fuck this thing taking those
Speaker 4: memories trying to spit it back, and it spit back
Speaker 4: a fucked up version of her. I don't think that
Speaker 4: was actually her.
Speaker 1: It was just it was it was her version of
Speaker 1: Captain Clark exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So you think they let her go.
Speaker 4: I don't know if they let her go not because
Speaker 4: the dude said, because she says, you know, I get away,
Speaker 4: and he was like, well it's not.
Speaker 2: It ain't up to me, because remember he looked at
Speaker 2: somebody in that window.
Speaker 4: The dude said, Phil, he's as uh, in all of
Speaker 4: recorded history, this is the most important thing we have
Speaker 4: ever come across. But he's like, but I can't even
Speaker 4: explain it. And then they go back to the whole
Speaker 4: thing about describing a dog and having and telling somebody
Speaker 4: to draw. Yeah, I mean that's yeah.
Speaker 2: I thought that this was.
Speaker 1: Her remembering the ship about her mom and coming to
Speaker 1: peace within herself that her mom probably wasn't crazy after all.
Speaker 1: And and remember there was a tape that they were
Speaker 1: listening to called The Window with Then, and it was
Speaker 1: Auto would take Clark would listen to that ship, and
Speaker 1: I think she saw a commercial of it too.
Speaker 4: Clark was quoting.
Speaker 5: Clark was quoting her to herself when they would eating,
Speaker 5: when they were sitting at the table, and when.
Speaker 4: She first got back, Remember he wasn't quoting her, he
Speaker 4: wasn't say it right because he'd been in. In my opinion,
Speaker 4: the AI play too long, so when you're retiting, when
Speaker 4: you're reciting something back, it's always off.
Speaker 1: I so the winner with Then, I thought that that's
Speaker 1: why I think it was just about like internalized issues.
Speaker 5: Maybe I thought it was about escapeism. I don't, but
Speaker 5: I don't know how that ties in with the therapist
Speaker 5: at the end, though, I just thought that Clark was
Speaker 5: trying to escape the real world and found this place
Speaker 5: that he thought he could not feel pain and just
Speaker 5: got stuck there. But the AI think makes a lot
Speaker 5: of sense to especially with what Phil said at the
Speaker 5: end about the most important thing that ever happened. I
Speaker 5: feel like people would try to sell AI like that
Speaker 5: in the nineties.
Speaker 4: And I don't know why he would think he couldn't
Speaker 4: feel pain in there. If he saw his funking assistant
Speaker 4: get their head chopped off, and if he just saw
Speaker 4: the dude get fucking killed, I would he assume he's
Speaker 4: not gonna feel pain in there.
Speaker 7: They felt pain for real.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So overall, I think because of the success, I
Speaker 1: think they got something here.
Speaker 2: He just got to build on it.
Speaker 1: This he being Kane Parsons, because there's so much that
Speaker 1: we don't know, oh you talk about. I think that
Speaker 1: he can get a couple of movies out of this ship.
Speaker 1: I think you should do this one. I don't think
Speaker 1: we have any reason to return to this world. I
Speaker 1: think that sequels end up cheapening the brilliance of the
Speaker 1: first one.
Speaker 4: It's like leave it alone. You made a great movie.
Speaker 2: Only because I saw the web series.
Speaker 1: I think they can squeeze one more out, more stories,
Speaker 1: huh yeah. And there's because I don't know if you're
Speaker 1: gonna watch it, so I'm not gonna say anything.
Speaker 2: So that's why I'm not gonna say.
Speaker 1: Anything about like how they got to all this thing,
Speaker 1: the thing with the company and stuff like that. I
Speaker 1: think there's I think they could squeeze out one more.
Speaker 2: So that's what I was gonna say.
Speaker 7: I think there's still room to explain who these scientists
Speaker 7: are and what this company is, right, because like I said,
Speaker 7: I'm still not completely sold on the AI thing. I
Speaker 7: think it's something that whoever these scientists in this company is,
Speaker 7: they created it, and it's created it, and it's starting
Speaker 7: to create this I don't think so. I think it's
Speaker 7: starting to create this uh not like multiverse, but like
Speaker 7: this alternate reality. That's what it seems like to me.
Speaker 4: They were they built so that company built MRI machines,
Speaker 4: So I don't see how they would have created this
Speaker 4: this because unless Phil's lying. Phil was like we kind
Speaker 4: of stumbled upon it. And now I come here every
Speaker 4: day just trying to learn about it. That would be
Speaker 4: weird if it was like, well, we created.
Speaker 2: It, so how would they just stumble upon this thing
Speaker 2: upon it?
Speaker 1: No, I think that the whatever because remember they were
Speaker 1: an MRI company when they built this machine. So something
Speaker 1: happened where ship got out of whack, and now it's
Speaker 1: kind of what roder' is saying, they're creating it.
Speaker 4: About what Phil said, though, I don't think Phil said that.
Speaker 2: Phil is the one. He didn't.
Speaker 4: He didn't go into she just ain't going to and
Speaker 4: everybody's but he.
Speaker 7: But he said stuff like it's not up to me,
Speaker 7: stuff like that, So it makes me feel like it's
Speaker 7: somebody else that's not feel like somebody else over this
Speaker 7: thing that's gotten out of hand. We see this in
Speaker 7: movies all the time, like this, like this quantum lea
Speaker 7: type of situation or something like.
Speaker 2: Kind of like Wanda Vision.
Speaker 4: No. Yeah, I took from what Phil was saying that
Speaker 4: it's not up to me whether or not you can
Speaker 4: leave here. I have bosses, sure, but I didn't take
Speaker 4: that as we created this and we just can't handle it,
Speaker 4: because he doesn't say anything like that. What he's saying
Speaker 4: applies the opposite.
Speaker 2: Well, I do think they're exploring it.
Speaker 1: So now there's this sort of scientific curiosity about whatever
Speaker 1: happened about with the machine about because I think they
Speaker 1: whatever this anomaly is or whatever's going on, they don't
Speaker 1: know why it's doing what it's doing, and they're trying
Speaker 1: to get as much research as possible. I think him
Speaker 1: saying that it's not up to me about whether you
Speaker 1: leave is that if she leaves, she's a threat to
Speaker 1: reveal whateverever it's happened to everybody else. And I think
Speaker 1: that this company probably bought that area because that area
Speaker 1: is an access point and they needed to shut it down.
Speaker 4: I agree with all of that, just not the part
Speaker 4: that they created it. That wouldn't make a lot of
Speaker 4: sense to me. I think they.
Speaker 7: Oh, that's the reason why I don't think that is
Speaker 7: because he would ask He was asking those questions like
Speaker 7: how did you get inside of here? Like how did
Speaker 7: you get there?
Speaker 3: I think because they still gathering dat on.
Speaker 5: I think the reason I think that they found it
Speaker 5: is because the has made suits and the things that
Speaker 5: they had on even in the beginning, like they were
Speaker 5: like exploring trying to see what it was versus created.
Speaker 7: Sure, they probably found it, but they're probably wondering how
Speaker 7: people are getting inside of it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, altered, we got that part, Like, that's the access
Speaker 4: points they're wondering. They're wondering how how many access points
Speaker 4: there are, and they're figuring out that there's access points
Speaker 4: popping up all over the place. I'm with y'all on
Speaker 4: all of that. I'm just not with y'all on they
Speaker 4: created it and it got out of hand, because that's
Speaker 4: not the impression that Phil gave at all.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I feel like it started as something like they what
Speaker 7: do they call it? I guess it's just like Stranger Things.
Speaker 7: To me, it's like this rip like of alternate universe.
Speaker 7: That's what it feels like to me. It feels like
Speaker 7: Stranger Things.
Speaker 4: It did feel like Stranger Things. It was a fucking
Speaker 4: version of the upside Down because even at the beginning
Speaker 4: when the camera is going through the floors, which was
Speaker 4: a dope thing, it was just like the version of
Speaker 4: that room just got weirder and weirder and more off
Speaker 4: the further down it went. But yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 4: think that the fact that they didn't even use like
Speaker 4: a bunch of CGI for this. They specifically used practical
Speaker 4: effects on almost everything here. I just feel like that's
Speaker 4: the point they were making. And now after today, I
Speaker 4: would definitely go watch a whole bunch of reviews to
Speaker 4: see if anybody else.
Speaker 2: Is saying it.
Speaker 1: So it killed it bro in terms of real quick
Speaker 1: rod ten mil budget nice eighteen.
Speaker 4: N I didn't see the budget part.
Speaker 3: I saw how much it aid good for him do
Speaker 3: whatever you want on his next.
Speaker 2: For real, for real, I wouldn't even make another movie.
Speaker 7: I was just about to say, like, I'm really starting
Speaker 7: to think about the Stranger Things and.
Speaker 4: How that was a group of.
Speaker 7: Scientists right that discovered this thing or whatever. It's a
Speaker 7: thing that was kind of there, but why Because they
Speaker 7: were fucking around they discovered it.
Speaker 4: So maybe they just didn't necessarily create it.
Speaker 7: They just discovered it, right, and it was this thing
Speaker 7: that's already and they're trying to figure out, Okay, how
Speaker 7: does this thing work?
Speaker 4: That's what we said. I'm just what I'm saying, be
Speaker 4: ignoring the ship out of us.
Speaker 3: Does this web series date back further than Stranger Things?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: No it doesn't, because Stranger Things went five seasons, six seasons,
Speaker 4: and I think the web series only started like a
Speaker 4: couple of years ago, but.
Speaker 7: Strange things before the pandemic or after.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the web series was twenty nineteen. I
Speaker 1: think is when it started.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's twenty nineteen.
Speaker 4: So when it hey, what the web series was started
Speaker 4: in twenty nineteen, he'd been in for a minute.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's when. Yeah, I think so, Yeah.
Speaker 4: I thought this dude, Okay, so if he's only twenty, yeah,
Speaker 4: he was one of that's a team. So he started
Speaker 4: this when he was fourteen, making these when he was fourteen. Man, damn, bro,
Speaker 4: that's crazy.
Speaker 2: No, I said twenty twenty two.
Speaker 4: That's what I thought.
Speaker 2: It was a couple of years. Yeah.
Speaker 1: After uploading the web series in January twenty twenty two.
Speaker 4: A lot of me I was wrong. I read. I
Speaker 4: guess it was the would you say, I.
Speaker 2: Don't know where I got twenty nineteen from?
Speaker 3: What do YouTube?
Speaker 2: Anyway?
Speaker 3: F chan? F chan?
Speaker 1: Yeah, four chan, Fortune four chan. I like that one
Speaker 1: of them changed anyway. That's it, man, that's back rooms. Man.
Speaker 1: I'm really curious to hear what you guys theories are
Speaker 1: as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, let me know if I'm tripping.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, because I don't think, because I
Speaker 1: don't think the web series. It gives information, but it's
Speaker 1: also really kind of an open to and it's you know,
Speaker 1: so it's still a lot of things that we don't
Speaker 1: people don't know what is, what's happening.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like, it's really kind of cool.
Speaker 1: It's like this opening the world that people just started
Speaker 1: creating their own versions of it.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna watch it, man, I'm definitely gonna I'm definitely
Speaker 4: gonna watch it.
Speaker 2: I think his was the one that got the most popular.
Speaker 4: Oh there's other ones, Yeah, I think there are other Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all kind of sort of fan fiction about
Speaker 1: back rooms from fortune.
Speaker 2: But his was the one that got Oh I see,
Speaker 2: it's crazy, bro.
Speaker 4: So he didn't create the idea of back rooms. He
Speaker 4: found ice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he watched things and now it's really dope.
Speaker 4: Man, it's yeah, kudos to this kid many years old.
Speaker 4: That's fucking amazing.
Speaker 1: All Right, Well, let us know what you guys think
Speaker 1: and we'll cut you guys next time.
Speaker 2: We got piece