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Speaker 1: Live from Vall Hartland and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. So Bovino is out and home and

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Speaker 1: is in. And that's supposed to be a very, very

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Speaker 1: big deal.

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Speaker 2: It's supposed to be a major story. Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 2: the biggest thing that ever happened. And I can't believe

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Speaker 2: giving in and he's acquiescing and it's a total failure.

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Speaker 2: And now he's talking to to the Governor Tim Walls,

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Speaker 2: and now he's talking to uh, he's talking to the

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Speaker 2: mayor Jacob Fray.

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Speaker 3: But I had two very good talks. I had Jacob

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Speaker 3: Prye and I had Governor Watts, and I mean they

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Speaker 3: were they were great calls. So let's see how they reported.

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Speaker 3: But they were very nice calls, very respectful.

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Speaker 4: So is there possibility President Trump of some type of compromise.

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Speaker 4: I read that some of the guard and we leave

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Speaker 4: in the state of Minnesota, some type of compromise to

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Speaker 4: I guess make those guys feel like they're in charge.

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Speaker 4: God help us.

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Speaker 3: Well, Well we're I think so, yeah, I mean, I

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Speaker 3: think so what we need is there criminals, you know,

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Speaker 3: they have criminals, and all I said, just give us

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Speaker 3: your criminals. And if you give us the criminals, it

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Speaker 3: all goes away. They're there to pick up murders. I

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Speaker 3: don't know if you saw it, but it was a

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Speaker 3: couple of days ago now and said crime is the

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Speaker 3: lowest in the history of our country, the recorded history

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Speaker 3: of our country. That's a big statement. That's because of us.

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Speaker 3: That's because we go into cities and towns. Usually we're embraced,

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Speaker 3: sometimes we're not. Chicago is like pulling teeth with Pritzker

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Speaker 3: and with the mayor, the mayor of Chicago, low Iq

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Speaker 3: person and usually we're embraced, but sometimes we're not. And

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Speaker 3: when we're not, it just makes it.

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Speaker 2: Makes it much harder, makes it tremendously hard when you

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Speaker 2: you have people who are more interested in thwarting ice

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Speaker 2: and supporting a legal immigration and trying to tear down

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Speaker 2: the country than they are in people actually being protected. Now,

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Speaker 2: I forget sometimes if I say, hello, Tony Katz, the

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Speaker 2: show is Tony Katz today. I hope you're staying warm

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Speaker 2: out there. It is very very cold in major parts

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Speaker 2: of the country, including where I live, and certainly in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 2: But a lot of people want to make a lot

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Speaker 2: out of this SWITCHA Vino is the chief of Border Patrol.

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Speaker 2: Homan Tom Homan is the border zart. The switch is

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Speaker 2: let's call it political. You have two shootings that have

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Speaker 2: taken place, two people killed because of shootings, I should say,

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Speaker 2: and there's massive pressure, and you look at the tactics

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Speaker 2: and people are like, oh, I don't like that. They favor,

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Speaker 2: at least if you were to look at polling, the

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Speaker 2: idea of removing the legal immigrants, but they don't favor

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Speaker 2: what's happening here. Well, what did they think think was

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Speaker 2: going to happen? How did they think this was going

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Speaker 2: going to give themselves up? And there's been plenty of

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Speaker 2: self deportations, But do you think that was going to

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Speaker 2: be the case for the criminal element, the violent element?

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Speaker 2: Do you think that was going to be the case

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Speaker 2: for the violent left attacking ice agents, attacking where they

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Speaker 2: are in hotels, bloodying ice officers, biting the fingertips off

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Speaker 2: of ice officers. You didn't. Maybe the problem is you're

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Speaker 2: actually witnessing how the sausage gets made. That's a really

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Speaker 2: ugly thing to say, Tony an ugly thing to say

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Speaker 2: two people died. I think we should be very wary

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Speaker 2: of that, or very aware of that. We should be

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Speaker 2: very aware of the fact that two people died, one

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Speaker 2: person who did not listen to instructions, one person who

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Speaker 2: put themselves in the mix. And in both cases I

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Speaker 2: still say investigate because maybe they're not good shoots, and

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Speaker 2: maybe based on the policies of immigrations and Customs enforcement,

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Speaker 2: those policies weren't it here too, And those officers who

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Speaker 2: don't adhere and put to it policy, if they do

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Speaker 2: not adhere to policy, they have to deal with the consequences.

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Speaker 2: They are not above it, not by any stretch. If

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Speaker 2: you don't want real consequences for your actions, don't be

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Speaker 2: an ICE agent, don't be border patrol, don't be law enforcement.

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Speaker 2: Work at dairy Queen. But if we want to talk

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Speaker 2: about having to deal with consequences of actions, those people

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Speaker 2: Which is why I say that I do not think

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Speaker 2: the mission should change at all. Whether there could be

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Speaker 2: a tactical change, often a tactical change and a battle.

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Speaker 2: But if that tactical change does not involve arresting those

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Speaker 2: people who are engaged in violence against ICE agents, we're

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Speaker 2: doing it all wrong. I'll say it again, for the

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Speaker 2: people in the chiefs, arrest everyone who is in the

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Speaker 2: country illegally and arrest those people engage in acts of

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Speaker 2: violence against ICE. Do it now, do it today, do

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Speaker 2: it tomorrow, do it the next day. Do not stop.

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Speaker 2: Do not stop. The chat room has someone telling me,

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm on the wrong side of history. What's the

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Speaker 2: wrong side? First of all, what a silly bit of

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Speaker 2: commentary there? The wrong side of history? That's a that's

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Speaker 2: what heck of a of a statement, that says a

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Speaker 2: whole bunch of nothing. What's the wrong side here? Believing

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Speaker 2: that the law should be applied and upheld? What's the

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Speaker 2: wrong side here? Believing that those people engage in Unamerican

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Speaker 2: activities going not just opposed to what ICE is doing,

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Speaker 2: but violently fighting them, they should somehow be left alone

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Speaker 2: as if they're freedom fighters. They are not, not in

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Speaker 2: the slightest, not for a second. No, maybe it's hard

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Speaker 2: for some people to accept the fact that what we

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Speaker 2: are witnessing from these leftists is not protest. But let

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Speaker 2: me say it again, for the people in the chief seats,

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Speaker 2: it's not protest. It's nowhere near protest. Attacking an ICE

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Speaker 2: officer is not protests. If you think that you're wrong,

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Speaker 2: let's break this down a little bit further. I'll say

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Speaker 2: it slower. Protest your government all day, protest their actions unquestionable.

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Speaker 2: March you go right ahead, stand on the street, corner,

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Speaker 2: blog or write or create videos, have concerts, all sorts

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Speaker 2: of things. Physically stop law enforcement from doing their job.

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Speaker 2: Not to a protest, and you should be arrested for it.

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Speaker 2: Now at that moment, were not willing to accept the

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Speaker 2: fact there's a difference between protests and physically assaulting an

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Speaker 2: ICE agent. There's no more having a conversation with those people.

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Speaker 2: Those people are willfully ignorant. They don't want conversation. What

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Speaker 2: to the conclusion that I'm going to give you nothing.

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Speaker 2: You get nothing. What is it? What does it matter

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Speaker 2: what you say? The wrong side of history. You're on

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Speaker 2: the side of attacking ice agents. Hu Weirdo. I said

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Speaker 2: the shooting should be investigated and if policy was not followed,

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Speaker 2: those agents are gonna have to deal with the consequences,

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Speaker 2: and that could very well include jail time one thousand percent.

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Speaker 2: But you don't get too physically a cost ice agents.

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Speaker 2: You don't get to intimidate, you don't get to like

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Speaker 2: that's advocating for a police state? What do you think

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Speaker 2: it is these people are doing? The left has decided

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Speaker 2: Don't speak out, or we will be violent. Where do

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Speaker 2: you think you're kidding with your lines of nonsense. Who

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Speaker 2: do you think this works on? Well, admittedly it does

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Speaker 2: work on some percentage of the population, but not here.

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Speaker 2: So why do you come at these stronger? But maybe

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Speaker 2: do it without the posturing and without the sloganeering and

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Speaker 2: get into the heart of the matter. You want the

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Speaker 2: illegal immigrant to be able to stay, say the words.

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Speaker 2: You want the society where there is no law and order,

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Speaker 2: where you do, indeed defund the police, and somehow you

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Speaker 2: that that doesn't work. They said, we're gonna defund the police,

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Speaker 2: and then they defunded the police. And they said, ah, crap,

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Speaker 2: their attack view, their violent view, and maybe we shouldn't

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Speaker 2: won't get hurt. That's their argument. That's the society that

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Speaker 2: they want. Protesters can protest violence. People need to be arrested.

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Speaker 2: And that's what I said, Why are aren't we doing that?

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Speaker 2: And that's what I expect from Tom Homan. That's what

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Speaker 2: he spoke to Governor Walls, and he spoke to Mayor Frey,

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Speaker 2: and I want the people who are here illegally and

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Speaker 2: we want to get them off the streets. Do I

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Speaker 2: really believe that that Fray and Walls are going to

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Speaker 2: do I believe it. Now they're having some videos about

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you see Minneapolis's finest on the streets.

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Speaker 2: Well that I'd love to be wrong. That'd be great,

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Speaker 2: that'd be great if they're actually gonna do something. But

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Speaker 2: how do they do that? Jacob Fray, the mayor of Minneapolis,

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Speaker 2: This is a guy who puts out ads in other

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Speaker 2: This is not somebody who is going to be able

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Speaker 2: terrible people who are in the country illegally. Yeah, let's go.

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Speaker 2: Let's go make that happen. The same guy who makes

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Speaker 5: We have got children in Minnesota hiding in their houses,

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Speaker 5: afraid to go outside. Many of us grew up reading

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Speaker 5: that story of Anne Frank. Somebody's gonna write that children's

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Speaker 5: story about Minnesota. And there's one person who can end.

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Speaker 2: The Holocaust Museum is already taken that despicable comment to

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Speaker 2: removing illegal immigrants from the United States. But they'll throw

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Speaker 2: get angry, the more the trolls come after me, the

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Speaker 2: less it matters. The argument before us is are we

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Speaker 2: and their emotion is a violent emotion. And they're saying

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Speaker 2: disagreeing with them. I say, we disagree with them, right,

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Speaker 2: now I think that the United States and President Trump

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Speaker 2: and law enforcement and ICE needs to follow the law

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Speaker 2: that others are following the law. And this has to

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Speaker 2: be our Israel moment to their hamas. Hamas kills twelve

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Speaker 2: at it for two years and finally have every hostage back. Yesterday,

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Speaker 2: for the first time since October seventh, twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 2: eight hundred and seventy three days. I believe it was

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Speaker 2: it's a long time. The difference with Israelness response that

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Speaker 2: got everybody all sorts of upset and then they lied

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Speaker 2: had had enough enough of these terrorists, low life scumbags,

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Speaker 2: enough of the people who support them. They're going to suffer.

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Speaker 2: We're going to put an end to this. We're done

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Speaker 2: pretending we can try, We're done actually trying. The cities

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Speaker 2: Those were the cities that got slaughtered. Mayors that were

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Speaker 2: working to bring manufacturing to these areas so people in

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Speaker 2: the Palestinians that were brought here for work and for opportunities,

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Speaker 2: the attack could go flawlessly. Israeli said, We're not putting

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Speaker 2: with these people. I put forth to Ice, to the

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Speaker 2: President and to you that our job is not to

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Speaker 2: put up with these radical, violent agitators. Protesters get to protest.

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Speaker 2: The First Amendment belongs to all of us. Those engaged

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Speaker 2: by the hundreds. Don't stop, not for a second. The

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Speaker 2: left will scream, and they'll call you an American, and

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Speaker 2: they'll call you a fascist and blah the blah blah blah,

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Speaker 2: shut up. We need to show America that we know

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Speaker 2: how to follow the law and that we will where

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Speaker 2: the ICE agents involved in bad shoots. When it comes

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Speaker 2: to Renee Good, I really don't think so. But I'm

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Speaker 2: not a member of ICE, and there might be things

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Speaker 2: in proceed I don't know about. When it comes to

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Speaker 2: Alex pretty doesn't look good again, there might be things

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Speaker 2: I don't know about. Investigations have to happen, and people

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Speaker 2: who have not acted properly need to be held to account.

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Speaker 2: That is true of vice, That is true of the

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Speaker 2: citizen violating some basic tenets of the social contract shore

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Speaker 2: but engaged in violence to get their political ideology through.

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Speaker 2: We don't do that here. And I don't give a

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Speaker 2: damn if they're happy, and I don't care if people

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Speaker 2: to happen. No change of policy, change of tactic is

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Speaker 2: up to you. Arrest every violent person attacking ICE agents

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Speaker 2: and do it now. I'm Tony Kaantz