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Right now, though, we just want to say 28 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 2: thanks to our friends at Freedom Foods Indiana for supporting 29 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 2: State House Happenings. Rob Kendall, Jim Merritt, Doull keep Shabaz 30 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 2: the program of State House Happening. He's your weekly look 31 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 2: at what's going on with Indiana politics and government. Before 32 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 2: we begin the program, lets meet the award winning panel. 33 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 2: You know him from thirty years and the Indiana Senate, 34 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 2: the Great Jim Merritt. Hello, Robert, and you know him 35 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: as the owner and operator of Indiepolitics dot org. 36 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 3: Doilla keep Shabaz. 37 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 4: Hello, good morning, my friend. 38 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 3: How's it going alrighty well? 39 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 2: Mirror Mirror on the wall is the latest disgrace of 40 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: them all. 41 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 3: Uh it's Jennifer Ruth Green. Okay, So she was Argie. 42 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 2: She was the US Indiana's Public Safety secretary, and before 43 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 2: that she was a failed congressional candidate running in the 44 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 2: first congressional district against Frank Mervan. 45 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 3: And we got wind well. 46 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 2: Okay, So the story came down Friday that all of 47 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 2: a sudden poof, she had resigned a two hundred and 48 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: seventy five thousand dollars cushy government position with no explanation 49 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 2: whatsoever and sort of some vague thank you from the governor. 50 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 2: And I said to myself, Jim Marrire, and I said, 51 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 2: something smells rotten in Denmark, because nobody just gives up 52 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 2: a two hundred and seventy five thousand dollars position. 53 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's really kind of an interesting point in 54 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 5: our in the Brown administration. And it's really not over. 55 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 5: It's not been a year yet. And and Jennifer Ruth 56 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 5: Green was a favorite of the governor's and everybody told 57 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 5: why well, that he really liked her. 58 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 6: And I don't know the answer, because I remember last 59 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 6: year she was initially his pick to be lieutenant governor. 60 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 4: Yes, that's what you wanted to be. 61 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 2: Why yes, there's nothing about her, like like I've tuk 62 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 2: to numerous people have met her, and it's just like 63 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 2: why what, Like, what is the thing about her? 64 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 5: I don't think we we we get the why. 65 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 3: You don't get to know. You just have to know. 66 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, but I do know that he was she was 67 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 5: a favorite of his. I think this redistrict king was 68 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 5: made to order for her. It was. Yes, she didn't 69 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 5: make it to the end of the and when Buck now, 70 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 5: when they go into session and do redraw the maps, 71 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 5: the first district will be wide open, and it's an 72 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 5: invitation for her or was to run for Congress and 73 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 5: she might fit in out there. 74 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 2: Okay, so let's let's because So she quits Jennifer Ruth Green. 75 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 2: She quits this position. She's making tw hundred and twenty 76 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: five thousand dollars, she's only been there eight months, and 77 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 2: immediately start to hear sort of her campy type people 78 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 2: dripping out, well, they're going to redraw that district and 79 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 2: it's gonna be perfect for her, and and she she 80 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 2: could run for Congress, and she could she could win. 81 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 2: And then she posts this photo of her in her 82 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 2: military garb off to military service, trying to present like 83 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 2: a Jim Banks type of thing where I'm out of 84 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 2: here to go to military service and get huge credit 85 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: to our friends at the Capitol Chronicle because initially they 86 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 2: were like, eh, eh, that's a National Guard one week 87 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 2: deal that that she ain't quitting because of that. So 88 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 2: then you start saying, well, if she was gonna run 89 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 2: for Congress, the worst thing she could do would be 90 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 2: quit now because she's in this uber high profile position 91 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 2: where she gets name ID, so that doesn't make any sense. 92 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 3: And then yesterday, so what is today? Today's Wednesday? 93 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 4: Right? Wednesday? 94 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 3: Man, Today's Wednesday? 95 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 2: On Tuesday, the Capitol Chronicle they got to the truth, 96 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 2: and boy, howdy is it not good for not only 97 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:56,239 Speaker 2: Jennifer Ruth Green but the governor. 98 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 6: When I when I sat there and read it, I 99 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 6: was like, Okay, I'm sick right now, so I can't 100 00:04:59,920 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 6: be reading this. Then I was like, you know what, 101 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 6: I am reading this because I've been hearing stories about behavior, 102 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 6: sexual harassment, a very toxic work environment, people complaining having 103 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 6: staff do personal business, have to do personal business for 104 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 6: her on government time, all the things you're kind of 105 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 6: not supposed to do, and government she. 106 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 3: Was checking a lot of the boxes allegedly. 107 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 6: Yes she was, and like, you're not helping. I was like, writing, 108 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 6: joke was is she might beck with her diego morales, 109 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 6: you know, in which one is this? If they were transgender? 110 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 6: Of course, But I was like, good lord, people, you 111 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 6: gotta be kidding me, Like what are you doing? And 112 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 6: then that next question is, Okay, Mike, who the hell's 113 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 6: running the show in your office to let this stuff 114 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 6: go on for eight months at a time. 115 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 2: Well, okay, so let's talk about what the Capitol Chronicle 116 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: alleges in their piece. There was a remediation agreement signed 117 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 2: in July that at the time it was signed, according 118 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 2: to Capital Chronicle, there was a subject of she Jennifer 119 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 2: Ruth and was subject of an inspector general investigation and 120 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 2: as you said, alleged misuse of state resources and workplace misconduct. 121 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 2: So Jim ad remediation agreement and these are just in 122 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 2: state government. There's a hey, you're messing up bad and 123 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 2: we're about done with you, and here's we're checking our 124 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 2: HR box right and ABC through Z better be accomplished 125 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 2: or yeah, here. 126 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 5: Is that kind of a we really mean it type of. 127 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 3: Well, you were thirty years in the state. That's what 128 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 3: that is. 129 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, it is. And do remember she did not take 130 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 5: office on January one, like most of the cabinet. She 131 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 5: was on duty. She was deployed somewhere in the military. 132 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 5: And I don't believe she really took office until late 133 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 5: February or March. And so she had let's just let's 134 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 5: give it February fifteenth to whatever time it was in 135 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 5: June that this, so it was a very timeframe of 136 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 5: all these situations that she's created in her office. 137 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 4: Four months. 138 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 5: Four months. 139 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, let me read this from the Capitol Chronicle 140 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 2: because I want to make sure they get the credit 141 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 2: on this, because I I broke the story yet Monday, 142 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 2: and I said, I had a rock solid source that 143 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 2: was like, oh yeah, this is way way deeper than 144 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 2: her getting out of there. And then they started talking 145 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 2: about the Inspector General's investigation we talked about on the air, 146 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 2: and I was told by a second source who backed 147 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 2: up the first source. They said, yeah, several members of 148 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 2: the media have this. So I figured I'll just break 149 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 2: the story and then let everybody else fill in the details, 150 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 2: because that seems like a lot of work to have 151 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,679 Speaker 2: to do that. But here, so here's what the Cavol Chronicle, 152 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 2: who deserves the credit said. Among the allegations against green 153 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 2: Or claims that she used state vehicles and travel cards 154 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 2: for personal and political purposes, and then she directed state 155 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 2: employees to assist with those activities during work hours. Additional 156 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 2: accusations sent around inappropriate workplace conduct, ranging from quote, conversations 157 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 2: with employees about personal relationships, intimate objects, or sexual activities, 158 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 2: to uninvited touching of employees and retally, I mean retaliation. 159 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 5: She checked that is one and twenty days. 160 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 2: That's amazing that you could check that many boxes allegedly 161 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 2: and in whatever time period she was actually there. 162 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 4: And she's a go getter. 163 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, and and and also you stop stop. Uh, And 164 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 5: really the basis of all this is the the job 165 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 5: of Secretary of Public Policy is an enormous one. Indiana 166 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 5: Department of Correction needs it needs a complete overhaul. And 167 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 5: and uh, they're building a prison up in northwest Indiana. 168 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 5: There are so many things that this secretary is that 169 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 5: that position has incredible importance. And uh, for all these accusations, 170 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 5: and and really the fire behind the smoke is so 171 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 5: disappointing and such wasted time. 172 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 6: And by the way it one thing. It was just 173 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 6: one incident. Okay, everybody's in toe to one incident. Okay, 174 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 6: don't do it again. And what's yours. 175 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 3: We don't work in the state government. 176 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 4: Well infinity plus one. 177 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 2: No. 178 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 6: But the thing is, if it's again and again and 179 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 6: again and again and again, like okay, miss Ruth Green, 180 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 6: maybe it's you and all this. Maybe it's not the staff, 181 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 6: maybe it's not the governor. Maybe maybe you're the problem. 182 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 6: It's like a friend of mine who's on his third wife. 183 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 6: What's the one constants equation you are? Maybe you shouldn't 184 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 6: be married anymore. It's coming thread out. 185 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. 186 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 2: Here's the problem with this though, Braun when she left 187 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 2: gave what I mean, look, those of us here in 188 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 2: the media been around this like you guys don't enough 189 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 2: with that, right, Eh, that's something that's something very nah, 190 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 2: something's going on here, because nobody dumps on a Friday, 191 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,719 Speaker 2: right if you want people to know something's going on. 192 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 2: And so, but Braun didn't rebuke her in her schedoodle 193 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 2: out the door. And by the way, I was told, 194 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 2: I was told by the same source that got it 195 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 2: right about the investigation that she showed up to work 196 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 2: allegedly on Friday and basically was volunteered. This will be 197 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 2: your last day. Don't let the door hit you the 198 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 2: where the Good Lord split you. 199 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 3: Right. 200 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 2: So the problem for Braun though, is, according to this article, 201 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 2: his people knew about all of this and the build 202 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 2: up and then he doesn't mention any of it and 203 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 2: basically gives her a pat on the back on her 204 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 2: way out the door. 205 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 3: Based on his public statements. 206 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 2: Well, so he can't come out now and be like, oh, 207 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 2: I've appalled to learn about this like this article. La. 208 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 4: You see, here's the problem with Braun. 209 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 5: Oh how long you got? 210 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 4: Yeah? 211 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 6: Is Ron is loyal to a to a fault, and 212 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 6: if you think about it, he wasn't to the tax banker. 213 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 6: Well well no, but but if you think about the 214 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 6: snap you have had issues, whether it's Jennifer, whether it's Josh, 215 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 6: Kelly Weentz, other folks us. Always he never chastised him, 216 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 6: so to speak, as much as like, hey, well we'll 217 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 6: take care of you. Just leave quietly and we'll we'll 218 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 6: take it from there. Braun has never been one to 219 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 6: to actually though, put his foot down, so to speak, 220 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 6: at least at least not publicly. 221 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 5: Well you also you see that with the Lieutenant governor. 222 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 5: You know they have walled him off from the Governor's office. 223 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 5: But but you don't really hear any negative uh, any 224 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 5: negative idea through the establishment or anything like that that 225 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 5: that they are overtly upset with Lieutenant governor on a 226 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 5: on a timely, daily, weekly basis. But you know that 227 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 5: he steps on their message all the time. 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Okay, So then there's a second part of this, 264 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 2: which is who he put in her place, and that 265 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 2: is Anthony Scott, the State Police Superintendent. 266 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 3: Now give me just a moment here. 267 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 2: I know the award winning panel is are the take people, 268 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 2: But let me set this up for everybody about why 269 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 2: this is very concerning to several of us. So, Doug 270 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 2: Carter was the former State Police superintendent, and while he 271 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 2: was State Police super intendant, there was an eighty page 272 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 2: probable cause affidavit leveled against the guy by the name 273 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 2: of Tom Kleinhilter. 274 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 3: And I think we've talked about Clein Helter on the 275 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 3: show before. 276 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 2: He is the Dubois County sheriff and a very close 277 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 2: political ally of Governor Mike Braun. This eighty page probable 278 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 2: cause affidavit was related to Kleinelter allegedly misusing commissary money 279 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 2: to pay for, amongst other things, his wife to go 280 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 2: on trips with him. Carter has been on our Kendell 281 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 2: and Casey show. He has said all of these things publicly. 282 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 2: He felt this was an iron cloud case which was instigated, 283 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 2: by the way, by an investigation from State Board of 284 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 2: Accounts that they felt they had an iron cloud case 285 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 2: against this guy in the eighty page probable cause affidavit. 286 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 2: They felt the case with a special prosecutor, was moving 287 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 2: towards charges being filed. And then all of a sudden, 288 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 2: Braun becomes the governor. He appoints this guy, Anthony Scott, 289 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 2: to be the new state Police superintendent, and all of 290 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 2: a sudden, the charges disappear against his close political ally, 291 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 2: Tom Kleinhelter and now all of oh and by the way, 292 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 2: in the process of the guy who did the investigation 293 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 2: in the eighty page probab will cause AFFI David, he 294 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 2: gets demoted. And now wouldn't you know Anthony Scott is 295 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 2: in this new public Safety director position and presumably taking 296 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 2: over the two hundred and seventy five thousand dollars salary 297 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 2: that comes with it. That really smells to a lot 298 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 2: of people. 299 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 5: Jim Merritt, Well, again, it's the Secretary of Public Safety. 300 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 5: I don't know what the correct term is or the title, 301 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 5: but the secretary from this cabinet position, this is an 302 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 5: enormous job, and public safety is job number one. Is 303 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 5: a government official as well as a fact department. Correction 304 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 5: needs a complete overhaul. And like I said, they're building 305 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 5: a prison, and they decided to keep open the prison 306 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 5: that they were going to close when all the COVID 307 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 5: money came out of the federal government, and they put 308 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 5: four hundred million dollars into building a new prison to 309 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 5: replace the prison. But both prisons are going to be 310 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 5: open now. And so this is a very very you know, 311 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 5: put the politics aside of what is going on du 312 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 5: Bois County, but you know, it is so important that 313 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 5: this part of government has the very best individual And 314 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 5: you know, throughout the thirty years I served in the Senate, 315 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 5: there were always calls to have the Senate or the 316 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 5: House as oversight and and a lot like what happens 317 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 5: in Washington with with cabinet secretaries that they would go 318 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 5: in front of the legislature, albeit probably the Indiana Senate 319 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 5: and get confirmation. And I always kind of pushed that 320 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 5: aside because you know, I always felt the governor needed 321 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 5: to have his or someday her selections in there. But 322 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 5: it's going to be really interesting to see how mister 323 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 5: Scott or Secretary of Scott comes through for us. 324 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 6: I agree because, like I said, the well thing about 325 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 6: du Bois County, it's it's a cloud. It's another issue 326 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 6: that they don't necessarily need right now with all those 327 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 6: stuff going on here between Jennifer's green and now this 328 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 6: the whole nine yards, I want to say, it just 329 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 6: kind of makes you wonder, Okay, who's running the show 330 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 6: over here and who's calling the shots, because the chief 331 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 6: of staff should be the person who is, like, you know, 332 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 6: keeping clams down all the all of the sudd But 333 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 6: Josh Kelly has his own issues right now. So it's like, 334 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 6: good lord, people, what the hell are you guys doing 335 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 6: all day? 336 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 2: Well, so real quick though, because this Anthony Scott stuff, 337 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 2: a lot of people had it as the antenna is 338 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 2: up because now you've caught Braun. I mean, look, Braun's 339 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 2: been caught in several how do you word it? The 340 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 2: statements are inconsistent with the fact, yes, thank you in 341 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 2: his time as governor, and now you've got him basically 342 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 2: covering up Jennifer Ruth Green going out the door. What 343 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 2: we know, his office was fully aware of what was 344 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 2: going on with her. And and they've tried to sweep 345 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 2: the klient Helter thing under the ruck. And but we 346 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 2: didn't have anything to do with this. We didn't know 347 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 2: about any of this. But it doesn't make any sense 348 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 2: that an eighty page probable cause affidavit would just disappear. 349 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 2: And the one thing that changed as you became the 350 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 2: governor and put somebody new in charge of the state police. 351 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 2: And now you're promoting this guy. People look at this 352 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 2: and go, why would we trust anything that you have 353 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 2: to say? 354 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 5: Well, you know, you also when when your governor, every 355 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 5: day means something. Mitch Daniels had a had an hour 356 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 5: glass on his desk and with the sands of time 357 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 5: and and and you have four years and we're what 358 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 5: now into the ninth month of of the administration, and 359 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 5: and every day is an opportunity for good public policy 360 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 5: or good governance and and and look at what they've 361 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 5: they've they had a session where uh, you know, property 362 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 5: taxes were an enormous situation Washington, and all that came 363 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,479 Speaker 5: with the tariffs and the stock market and everything, Uh 364 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 5: blew apart their budget, and and and Lieutenant Governor is 365 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:59,719 Speaker 5: Uh has had all his controversies came in and and 366 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 5: so you really want open field. You want an opportunity 367 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 5: to talk about the good things that you want to 368 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 5: do or you're doing for the state of state state 369 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 5: government in Indiana. And and they it keeps on that, 370 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 5: they keep stepping on their message. We're we're talking about 371 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 5: this on this on this program because it's interesting to 372 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 5: the public and the establishment, But they would much rather 373 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 5: us be talking about something that they've done that's positive 374 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 5: for UH for the coming days. 375 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 2: This is the question we had the other day here 376 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 2: in the at the radio station, was did these scandals 377 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 2: always because I think we even had this conversation with you, Jimmy, 378 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 2: you were mosying around, Did we did these scandals sort 379 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 2: of things always exist in the pre inter or not 380 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 2: even necessarily pre Internet, but pre social media, pre citizen 381 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 2: journalist era and we just never knew about them? Or 382 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 2: have they just become more prevalent now? And you were 383 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 2: obviously here in a pre even a pre internet era. 384 00:19:58,280 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 3: What what say? What say you? 385 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 2: I mean, the just we just didn't used to know 386 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 2: about these things? Or has the incompetency gotten worse. 387 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 5: Well, well, I think, uh, they've always been here, Uh 388 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 5: as well as I can tell you five or six 389 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 5: things had happened in the nineties to buy an abandoned 390 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 5: administration that the legislature, you know, Uh, people resigned. Uh, 391 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 5: and it wasn't disgraced, They resigned quietly. Uh. What what 392 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 5: should have happened was when all this trouble happened with 393 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 5: with this paper that she signed and everybody signed remediation agreement. Uh, 394 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 5: she should have resign then, and and and and gotten 395 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 5: away from the media and and uh done it very quietly, 396 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 5: because you always have leaks and and uh people have 397 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 5: been talking about this for the last two months and 398 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 5: and so what I'm saying here is that in the past, 399 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 5: people would have been honorable and left on their own 400 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 5: court and and and and done it very very quietly. 401 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 5: But now now we're talking about it, and we probably 402 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 5: will talk about her for the next couple of weeks. 403 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 6: There's no there's no phrase I remembers from a television 404 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 6: like years ago where I said whether whether well the 405 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 6: politicians would be a total disgrace. They give him a gun, 406 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 6: a bottle of whiskey and a lock and lock the 407 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 6: door and tell them to go do the right thing. 408 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 6: He drink, he drink the whiskey, shoot off the lock, 409 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 6: and then leave the road. Because in a nutshell, that's 410 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 6: that's that that that that my friend is. The is 411 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 6: the is the world we're in now, we're like I said, 412 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 6: it's now, it's the TikTok, It's Facebook, it's how many 413 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 6: likes do I get on X? You know how many 414 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 6: people retweet this? And it is it is almost sort 415 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 6: of instantaneous instantaneous analysis, like no, real the job right, 416 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 6: it's gotta take time. You don't just add water mix 417 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 6: and you know, bake the three hundred and fifty degree. 418 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 2: Okay, So the the obvious the obvious question then becomes 419 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 2: her being Jennifer Ruth Green. 420 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 3: She's done right, I mean in. 421 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 2: Terms of politically, if I like, I'm not saying she's 422 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 2: not maybe going to run, because it seems like she 423 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 2: really wants and needs to be in politics and government. 424 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 2: But if you're gonna run against her, now you've just 425 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 2: got all the ads and some rich guy or girl's 426 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 2: gonna run and be like here's a million dollars in 427 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 2: the primary to like everyone, what you did, thank you goodbye. 428 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 6: I've been told for my sources of North it's gonna 429 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 6: be a very competitive primary if the if the maps 430 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 6: are redrawn. 431 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 2: I mean, how would how would she how would she explain? 432 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 2: Because like the truth will, I mean, come out whatever 433 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 2: this Inspector General report is gonna say. And I mean 434 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 2: then people start talking and. 435 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,239 Speaker 6: I may responsibly fake news. Yeah, well you know if 436 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 6: you'll say fake news like I was. I was attacked 437 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 6: by the liberal establishment, the insiders. You know, they don't 438 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 6: want change, blah blah. I could write the script tomorrow. 439 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, and this thing this, so you I still think 440 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 5: she's gonna run. Oh, I think it's probably good. Seventy 441 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 5: five percent chances eighty percent chances are shameless. We look 442 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 5: at Congress today, you know, I mean she fits in Washington, 443 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 5: d C. Yeah, right, And so you know I really 444 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 5: think that, you know, if and you're right, I think 445 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 5: she would have been lieutenant governor, uh if something happened 446 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 5: to Micah and uh. And I would imagine that if 447 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 5: if if the governor had the convention all over again. 448 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 5: And I and I love Julie, she was my intern. 449 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 5: But but I think if you had to do it 450 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 5: all over again, he would have put Jennifer Ruth Green 451 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 5: up as is lieutenant governor. 452 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,719 Speaker 2: But okay, but let's say he picked her. So think, 453 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 2: let's think about this little soup of ridiculousness. Here were 454 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 2: our three options, Micah, what a dumpster fire that's been, 455 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 2: Jennifer Ruth Green, what a dumpster fire that's been? Or 456 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 2: Julie Maguire, who seemingly couldn't speak on her own, like 457 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 2: why what? What can't we get normal people who can speak? 458 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 2: Can't we get normal regular people who can speak well? 459 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 3: Where the people this. 460 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 5: Is obviously radio and Abdulla and I are looking at 461 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 5: like that there are any faults. 462 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 4: Like welcome to the twenty first wire. 463 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 3: The normal regular people in this in this business. 464 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 4: Normal regular people don't want to be bothered with you. 465 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, it goes back to you know, the reason why 466 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 5: Mss Ruth Green has a chance to run for Congress 467 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 5: is people are so they're not my optic that they're 468 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 5: they're so focused on getting their kids to bed, making 469 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 5: a paycheck that they they just a pox on all 470 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 5: their houses and they just don't care. The turnout is 471 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 5: low and and Jennifer Ruth Green has a very good 472 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 5: opportunity to go to Congress next year. 473 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 2: Wow, if you could win, well, I mean, look at 474 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 2: the stuff that goes on in Congress. 475 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 3: This actually isn't all that bad comparativeity. 476 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 5: And I don't know a competitive primary. Uh, there might 477 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 5: people be people that announce. And if if it's that 478 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 5: ghost like map that we saw a week or two ago, 479 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 5: I don't know anybody in those areas that that might 480 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 5: be able to pull what she can pull out of 481 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 5: Lake County because she has a lot of friends up 482 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 5: in northwest Indiana. 483 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 4: We just remember, you don't have to live in the 484 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 4: district to run for Congress. 485 00:24:55,080 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 5: That's exactly right, That's exactly right when you serve ye yeah, yeah, 486 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 5: Rob Kettle will gives you buys. 487 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 2: Jim Merrick program of State House Happenings, your weekly look 488 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,239 Speaker 2: at what's going on with Indiana politics and government. Got 489 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 2: about three minutes left here speaking of running for Congress 490 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 2: and the and the district redistricting. 491 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 3: According to the. 492 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 2: Capitol Chronicle, nine thousand signatures were delivered to the State 493 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 2: House the other day against early against redistricting. Uh, this 494 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 2: is gonna move the needle at all? Is this gonna 495 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 2: make any no difference? 496 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 3: None. 497 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 5: None, that's a waste of time. Yeah, people will just 498 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 5: not not it will be ignored. Uh, the legislature will 499 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 5: do what the legislature will do. Uh, and the governor 500 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 5: will call the legislature into special session. And you know 501 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 5: time is burning abdull. You know where they're gonna be lawsuits? 502 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 4: Uh? 503 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 5: There they obviously we know that the map is ready 504 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 5: to be almost blessed by the legislature. 505 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 6: And but here's thing I think this is. I think 506 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 6: this was a little bit different and because of the 507 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 6: political environment we're in today because they got nine thousand signatures, 508 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 6: but they weren't all just from Marion County or Allen 509 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 6: County or Lake County. They were from all ninety two counties, 510 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 6: which means there you've got potentially about people who volunteer, 511 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 6: who will advocate to vote out whoever voted for these 512 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 6: new maps. So I don't think you can necessarily write 513 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 6: it off like when we couldn't in the past, like no, 514 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 6: four thousand signatures all Marion County, Okay, fine, whatever, But 515 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 6: I think this one's a little bit different. Nine thousand 516 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 6: signatures all ninety two counties, that that that that that's 517 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 6: for lawmakers should be a wake up call. 518 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, I just kind of wonder how many of our 519 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 5: registered voters that how many people, I mean did they 520 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 5: did they did they follow a track where this is 521 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 5: registered voter, this is somebody that is going to vote, 522 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 5: this is a Republican Democrat. I'd love to know the 523 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 5: cross stabs on that, the insight information. I think that uh, 524 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 5: you know, it's ignored the governor will will There's been 525 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 5: so much in the media and so much in social 526 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 5: media about this that and it hasn't deterred anybody in 527 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 5: the legislature from I don't think the legislator has come 528 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 5: out and said we shouldn't do this. They did and 529 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:10,959 Speaker 5: then they've backtracked. 530 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 2: All right, So the groups concluded that we're part of 531 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 2: this Indiana Concert Conservation Voters, Women for Change, Indiana Common Cause, 532 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 2: Indiana Concerned Clergy of Indianapolis, Legal Women Voters of Indiana, 533 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 2: count us in. There's too many to read. I didn't 534 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 2: know there were all these groups out there. How are 535 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 2: all these people. 536 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 5: Like they certainly have time in their head. 537 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 3: Where does all the money come from? 538 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 2: The the American Asian hoosir Asian American power Like I 539 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 2: didn't even know if some of these groups existed, but 540 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 2: there's a lot. 541 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 3: Of We need to find some of this money that's 542 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 3: out there fueling these people. 543 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 5: Could be sponsors appropriate. 544 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, they should be sponsoring state own's happenings. 545 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 3: Get more members to your group. 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