1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: Live from the Heartbland and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. Well, welcome back everybody. I am Andrew 3 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: Langer in for Tony Katz today, So glad I could 4 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: join you and you can join me. You can join 5 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: the conversation in a myriad of ways, yes, using the 6 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: five dollar word, a myriad of ways to join the conversation. 7 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 1: You can call us I'm opening it up. Why not? 8 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: Three one seven six four three eighty seven hundred three 9 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: one seven six four three eight seven zero zero. But 10 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: you can also email me while I'm on the air, 11 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: Andrew Langer Radio at gmail dot com. You can also 12 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: at me on Twitter at Andrew Underscore. Langer and Landon 13 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: sent this to me. You know it's it's it's funny. So, uh, 14 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: this is a story came out, just came out right 15 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: before we went on the air. Sahil Kapoor writes this 16 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 1: for NBC News. Trump orders up IndyCar Race on the 17 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: streets of Washington for America two fifty Grand Prix. Indy 18 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: Car has ebraced the idea. Trump signed an executive order 19 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: Friday instructing his administration to work with Washington's mayor to 20 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: launch the race in late August. Yeah, we're looking at 21 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: August twenty one to twenty three, Hey, my mom's birthday. 22 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: And the order instructs the Interior and Transportation departments working 23 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 1: in coordination with the mayor to design a race route 24 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: near the National Mall. Now, this is not d c's 25 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: first time doing IndyCar. By the way, DC did it 26 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: a couple of different has done it a couple of 27 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: different times. You can still on occasion, I think you 28 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: can still see it out the new or the old 29 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: RFK Stadium, the football stadium and for a while that's 30 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,639 Speaker 1: where the Nationals played their parking lot had a couple 31 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: of different features that have been you know that were 32 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: relics remnants of the IndyCar track that was there, and 33 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: you know. Spokesman for Deleanor A Delegate Eleanor Holmes Norton, 34 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: said she would defer to the mayor and will work 35 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: to make it happen if Bowser is on board, and 36 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: Bowser's office hasn't, hasn't, hasn't responded yet. Listen, here's the thing. 37 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: Let me take thirty seconds and talk about America to 38 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: fifty here's the thing that I'm I'm I'm glad about 39 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: grateful for I am grateful for the fact that we 40 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: have a Republican in office during America two fifty And 41 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 1: I don't want to make this a our team their 42 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: team kind of a thing, but their team does not 43 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: like America. You know, they can they can. They can 44 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: make these claims about immigration, they can make these, but 45 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: the reality is they don't like America. They don't like 46 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: the American founding. And one could only have imagined how 47 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: America would have been celebrated, America's two hundred and fiftieth 48 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: would have been celebrated had Kamala Harris become President of 49 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: the United States. There, I said it. That's the bottom line. 50 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: And so you're gonna have people who just hate the fact, 51 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: right they hate the fact that we're celebrating America's two 52 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: hundred and fiftieth. They hate the fact that Donald Trumps president. 53 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 1: And so the funny thing is Landon also sent this 54 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: over to me somebody named Sunflower Mads. I don't know 55 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: who she is, but apparently she does a lot of 56 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: a lot of writing about this. She or her Twitter 57 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: handle Sunflower with no E. By the way, s U 58 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: n F l O w R M A DS she says. 59 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: She writes, I talk about cars going fast and sometimes 60 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: other sports. All views, thoughts, and opinions on my own 61 00:03:55,200 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: and do not reflect that of any employer. And she 62 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: is not happy about this. Oh my god, I mean, listen, anyways, 63 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: the DC race is a blatant example of propaganda. Don't 64 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: even try and argue with me. This is effing ridiculous. 65 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: And it's also just going to be an s show 66 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: on top of that, and I will cheer when it fails. 67 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it's like, you know, it's funny. I was 68 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: just I was just watching the episode of Saturday Night 69 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: Live from I think it was nineteen eighty six. William 70 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 1: Shatner was the host. Must have been Christmas eighty six. 71 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: And it's the one where Shatner goes up at a 72 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 1: Star Trek convention. He goes, it's just a TV show. 73 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: It's just a TV show. And I get it. People 74 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: get passionate about the things that they get passionate about. 75 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: And there are people who are passionate about indie racing. 76 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: There are people who are passionate about auto racing. Generally. 77 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: My brother, for the longest time, one of my brothers 78 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: huge NASCAR fan. You know, In fact, there's a story 79 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: I could tell about how his passion for a NASCAR 80 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: played into some of the work that he was doing 81 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: in Washington, DC. Or Yeah, but I hesitate to talk 82 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: about it right now. Anyway, you know something I can 83 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 1: be oblique about it. My brother was recognized because he 84 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: was doing some work for a presidential administration. He became 85 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 1: sort of their in house NASCAR expert. Anyway, So they're 86 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: getting this car, and yeah, it's to celebrate America. It's 87 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 1: America's two hundred and fiftieth birthday. Guess what, Sunflower mads. Yeah, 88 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: a lot of the celebration is going to be propagandistic, 89 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: without a doubt. I don't have a problem with that, 90 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 1: you know, celebrating this nation and the great things that 91 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: we do. You know, it's funny because Transportation Secretary Duffy, 92 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:59,559 Speaker 1: let me see this now, Doug Bergham, I know Duffy 93 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: Duffy as well as Interior Secretary Doug Bergham and Fox 94 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: Sports CEO Eric Shanks, who's network airs IndyCar Races, also 95 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: weighs in. Duffy said this freedom doesn't ring at REVS 96 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: Indye Cars about competition and pushing limits. The same things 97 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: that have always defined America. I will say this much 98 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: by the way, one of the problems with America today 99 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: is that our young people get off my lawn to 100 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: sound like an old man here, is that our young 101 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: people don't embrace car culture in the same way that 102 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: I would say my generation did to an extent, but 103 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: certainly the people who came before me. Did you know? 104 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: It's funny. I was talking to somebody at the dog 105 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: park the other day and their son likes to tinker 106 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: with cars, something you don't hear a lot about nowadays. 107 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: And some neighbor complained about it, and we were both 108 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: sort of astounded. You know, let's why don't we Why 109 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: don't we applaud these things? Why don't we you know why? 110 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: You know, why is it that we're not encouraging this? 111 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: We should be. But she writes, half the Indy car 112 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: grid is not American. They just promoted a commercial starring 113 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: a Mexican driver who is a dual citizen. Spells dual wrong. 114 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: Their championess from Spain. We just last year celebrated one 115 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: of Roger Penske's drivers becoming a citizen last year, so 116 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: f this rais in f Roger Penske, I gotta tell 117 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: you something, and not to even begin to mention how 118 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: many of the people working for these teams or immigrants 119 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: or on work visas. You know how first of all, 120 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: how dare you, Madeline Sunflower mads how dare you insert 121 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: your opinion for these people? Right? You don't know what 122 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: Pato thinks about this. You don't know what the other employees, 123 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: the immigrant employees, or the forloreign employees think about this, 124 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: the foreign drive evers think about this. You want to 125 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: you want to prove something about this? You know then 126 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: that do it on the race course? That that is, 127 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: that is the American way, right, You're upset about this. 128 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: He's got something to prove, you know. Coach. Coach doesn't understand. 129 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Let me explain this. That's a reference to 130 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: Chariots of Fire, which if you haven't seen, I I 131 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: write I cannot recommend highly enough love that movie. For 132 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: the longest time, when I was still running, I don't 133 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: run anymore, I would watch it probably once a year. 134 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: I love it. It's an inspiring movie, and you know 135 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: it is it is about, you know, one of the 136 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: main characters, Harold Abrahams. Actually, I will say not just 137 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: Harold abrahams uh, but Eric Little. If you don't know, 138 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: it's the story of a of a series of of runners. 139 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 1: I would say British, but the reality is that Harold 140 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: Abraham's he is English and Jewish, but Eric Little is 141 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: Scottish and Protestant. And not that they're in conflict with 142 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: each other, but they seem to be in conflict with 143 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: a world who wants to who wants to make them 144 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: depart from their views. And so what do they both 145 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: want to do is prove it on the race course. 146 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: That's the message. So let if Pato is unhappy, if 147 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: the champion from Spain is unhappy, but this fine, prove 148 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: it on the race course. But by the way, not 149 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: everything has to be just about your own personal politics. 150 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: You can celebrate America without making it about your personal politics. 151 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: In fact, that's the beauty of America. It's part of 152 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: the reason why I am. I continue to get vexed 153 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: by performers canceling their performances at the Kennedy Center, the 154 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: Trump Kennedy Center. Now do I have a problem with 155 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: Donald Trump putting in name on the Kennedy Center. He 156 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: didn't do. I think it was perhaps a little, shall 157 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: we say, de classe for the board of the Kennedy 158 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: Center to put Trump's name on the Kennedy Center. Yeah, 159 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: you know it. It is essentially a form of genital measuring. 160 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: And I don't think you know that we need to 161 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: be doing that. But on the other hand, a gig's 162 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: a gig. The art is about the art, and one 163 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 1: of the ways you demonstrate to the folks who disagree 164 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: with you politically maybe make them rethink their political opinions, 165 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,959 Speaker 1: is by performing for them. Maybe maybe if they appreciate 166 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:42,839 Speaker 1: what it is that you're that you're saying though, what 167 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: the art is that you're doing, maybe it'll get them 168 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: to rethink their things. Maybe let's say for a moment 169 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: that one of these other drivers is an immigrant who 170 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: is unhappy about the trump uh anti illegal immigration policies. Fine, 171 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: get out there, draw I win, and and you should 172 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: be sure. I don't I don't you know. I don't 173 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: particularly appreciate it when artists start to get political on 174 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: their platforms. I don't necessarily take my cues. I don't 175 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: listen to, you know, athletes about their petty politics. But 176 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: other folks might, so get out there and do it. 177 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know who this is sun 178 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: Sunflower Mads. Oh, you know, I suspect that if I 179 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: spend any time, maybe I'll do it turning the commercial. 180 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 1: If I spent any time looking through her twitter feed, 181 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: we would find that she's not happy about a lot 182 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: of things that this administration does. Anyway, want to hear 183 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: from you. I would love to know what you think 184 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: about this indie race in DC in August. Andrew Langer Radio, 185 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: Andrew Langer Radio at gmail dot com, at Andrew Underscore 186 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: Langer on Twitter, and you can call us here now 187 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: three one seven six four three eighty seven hundred. I'm 188 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: Andrew Langer in for Tony Kats. This is Tony Kats Today, 189 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 1: to be joined in a couple of minutes by Paul Teller. 190 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get his take on on this thing. So 191 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: you talk about something, you get ready to tweet it out, 192 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 1: and then you come to find out that sunflow. I 193 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: don't know if Sunflower Mads is listening or one of 194 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: her friends is listening. I don't know, but but she 195 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: she locked out her account after while I was on 196 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: the air. It looks like so I tweeted out the 197 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: thread that was sent to me by Land. I'm gonna say, Land, 198 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: and you send it to me, and then and then uh, 199 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: and then I've also tweeted out the screenshot her lockdown account. 200 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: That's funny. Oh good lord, guys. So there you go. Listen. 201 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 1: I have to tell you, Sunflower Mads, if you're listening, 202 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: your friends who may be listening, you know, stand by 203 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: what you post. You know you don't have to lock 204 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: it down. You know you believe this, you it. I 205 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: think about cars going fast and sometimes other sports. You know, 206 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: all view's thoughts and opinions are my own and do 207 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: not reflect that of my employer. You write that down 208 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: or any employer you write that down. You know what 209 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: you're saying. I mean, you know what you're saying is 210 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,719 Speaker 1: going to generate some heat. You know it. Right, So 211 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: you get out there and you make your statement about 212 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: about this decision about this indie race in DC. You 213 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: know that. Don't lock it down. Otherwise, by the way, 214 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 1: it becomes an echo chamber. And I gotta I got 215 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: an issue with this. You know, we'll come back to 216 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: talk about about UH voter I D because there's a 217 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: lot going on there. But but in the meantime, because 218 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: we are talking about the Bisentennial. I'll talk about the 219 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: US Olympic hockey team later on in the show because 220 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: that's that's that's fun stuff. But right now I want 221 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: to take a minute. I want to talk about let's 222 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: let's talk about something else that's important. So we've got 223 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: this this moon shot that's happening. I don't know if 224 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: you're aware of this, but we are going back to 225 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: the moon something else. I'm glad, frankly that Donald Trump's 226 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: president for here. And I'm a huge space buff. If 227 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: you haven't heard me talk about this before, I am. 228 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:16,719 Speaker 1: I'll talk about it a little bit on Wednesday when 229 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 1: we're talking about the Challenger disaster. I am a huge 230 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: space buff. For many, many years, we wanted to be 231 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: an astronaut, you know, Neil Armstrong was my hero, actually, 232 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: and that's changed a little bit. If you've never watched, 233 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: give you something else to watch over the weekend, if 234 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: you're snowed in, if you have not seen, if you 235 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: have an HBO subscription and you have never watched the 236 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: series From the Earth to the Moon, you absolutely need 237 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: to watch it. Without a doubt. It's one of the 238 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: greatest docu dramas of all time, which is essentially what 239 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: it is. It's a dramatization of the space program. And 240 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: so I'm actually gonna say that my heroes are Alban 241 00:14:56,160 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: and p Conrad. But set all of that was Apollo 242 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: Apollo twelve. We're going back to the Moon. And here 243 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: is NASA Administrator Jared Isaacman talking about they're going to 244 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: send astronauts up, They're going to circle the Moon and 245 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: come home. Let's let's go to cut number twenty. 246 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 2: So over the next couple of days, we're actually going 247 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 2: to start this process. On Monday, we are going to 248 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:23,239 Speaker 2: put that massive Moon rocket through all of its paces 249 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 2: in preparation for its future launch. So we're going to 250 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 2: load it up with all its liquid oxygen, liquid hydrogen. 251 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 2: We're we're going to put a bunch of ground tests 252 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 2: through the system in preparation for what's only just weeks away, 253 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 2: the most historic human space flight mission in more than 254 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 2: a half century. You're going to see that rocket, an 255 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 2: eight point eight million pounds of thrust, accelerate four NASA 256 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 2: astronauts farther into space than they've we've ever gone before, 257 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 2: pass the Moon, around the Moon, and safely back to Earth. 258 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 2: This is the first mission in President Trump's Artemis campaign. 259 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this is this is massively important, the 260 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: return to the moon, so vital that we do this, 261 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: and listen. I am someone who thinks a great deal 262 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: about space travel generally and about what we need to do. 263 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: I went to an event a couple of years ago. 264 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: I had a fortune where I live of being relatively 265 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: close to one of the NASA research facilities, and so 266 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: heard a presentation by one of the engineers about the 267 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: return to Mars. And I got very frustrated with it, frankly, 268 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: because as I'm sitting there listening to it, there were 269 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: all of these assumptions, and there were assumptions being made 270 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: in which we hadn't posited any change in technology. And 271 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: technology has changed now it has. We haven't had leaps 272 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: and bounds of changes in technology that we would have 273 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: hopefully would have had, right you know between now, you know, 274 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: between the early nineteen sixties and the Moonshot and then 275 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: the Space Shuttle and the launching of the Space Shuttle 276 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: Columbia in April of eighty one. But if we are 277 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: going to make the decision to go to Mars, we 278 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: are going to have to have some leaps in technology. Why, 279 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: let me tell you why, because it's all going to 280 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 1: be about weight and duration of spaceflight. And and you know, 281 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: the longer the spaceflight takes, the heavier the spacecraft has 282 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: to be, and the longer and that what that means 283 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: is the longer there's, the longer the duration is the 284 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: more risks a crew to the space crew. Right with 285 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 1: going to the moon, obviously there are risks. There are 286 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 1: risks inherent in anything and everything. But at the very least, 287 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: it's only a what three and a half day trip 288 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: to the Moon from the Earth, and you never do 289 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: math on the air. It's it's what, twenty four thousand 290 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: miles there, twenty four thousand miles back? I mean it's 291 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: it is no, it's more than that. It's quarter of 292 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: a million miles. So you never do math on the air. 293 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: Quarter of a million miles. And if you're going at 294 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: seventeen thousand miles an hour, it takes x amount of time. Right, 295 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: that's the way it is. Right now, we don't have 296 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: a way to essentially effectively accelerate past seventeen thousand miles 297 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: an hour, and so in order to get to Mars 298 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,239 Speaker 1: and minimize the risk of the astronaut and not have 299 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: a massive spacecraft. We're going to have to have some 300 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: leaps in technology to get us to go faster, and 301 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 1: obviously there are risks that are inherent and going faster, 302 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 1: you know, there are greater cataclysms that can happen. By 303 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: the way, I almost said clataclysms. If you're not following, 304 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: I don't know how Tony feels about about Candace Owens. 305 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: Not a fan, but there's a new Twitter account out 306 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 1: there that essentially is taking cuts of Candace owens mispronunciation 307 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: of words, and I got to tell you it is 308 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: funny to watch without at that you get a nice little, 309 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 1: nice little belly laugh out there. Anyway, to sum up, 310 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: very excited about this indie race in DC. Very excited 311 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: by the way on the indie race thing. The NASCAR 312 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 1: movie Days of Thunder has been out there. I did 313 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: not see F one. I need to see F one. 314 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 1: They've been talking about doing a sequel to both movies combined, 315 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: where it would essentially be Brad Pitt versus Tom Cruise. 316 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: I would I would pay all kinds of money to 317 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 1: see that. Paul Taylor political hand Paul Taylor joining us 318 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: in a moment, Andrew Langer Radio is the email address here. 319 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: I'm Andrew Langer. This is of course Tony Katz. 320 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 3: Today the Land and yet you missed it there that 321 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 3: given our discussion, you should have played Crosstown Traffic by 322 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 3: yet Jimmy Hendricks. 323 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: That'd be except just hi, everybody. I'm Andrew Langer in 324 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: for Tony Kats. By the way, Tony has now weighed 325 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: in on this in Dcar Issue and he writes, IndyCar 326 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 1: in DC is incredible for the series. End of discussion. 327 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you very much, Tony. I appreciate that. 328 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: And this is really interesting because I'm not so anyway, 329 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: I'm not so sure that the Sunflower mats is on there. 330 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: Will come back to this in a moment. Joining us 331 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: right now is Paul Teller, one of the founders. It 332 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: was the early on I want to say Executi vice 333 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: president of Advancing American Freedom. Paul. I mean, what's your 334 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: what's your relationship with him today these days? Hey? 335 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 4: Appreciate it. First of all, always great to be with you, 336 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 4: my friend. Thanks for having on. Yeah, so they're a client. 337 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 4: I am now president of Teller Strategies. Went on my 338 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 4: own and excellent advancing American freedom from full time to 339 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 4: you know, a contractor. 340 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: So let me ask you this before we get into 341 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: the substance. I don't know if you've seen the news 342 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: the President announced as signing an executive order IndyCar coming 343 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 1: to d C in August. I can only imagine how 344 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: hot that's going to be. But this is this is 345 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 1: a big deal, isn't it. 346 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 4: You know, certainly in Pence world, right you could you 347 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 4: could imagine yes, right, oh sure, right, you know that 348 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 4: I'd imagine that that'll be. That'll be practically the closest 349 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 4: thing to a national holiday, you know, in the world 350 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 4: of Mike Pence. 351 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,479 Speaker 1: So yeah, sure, yes, that's it. That's it. That's exciting stuff. 352 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: So Paul, listen, you know you you worked up on 353 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: the hill, both House and the Senate side. You got 354 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: a good handle. You worked for the White House, as 355 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: as I mentioned to the listeners earlier. So we we 356 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: had a deal. The President had a deal with Schumer 357 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: on on you know, on the Senate side for the 358 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: spending bill. They were going to carve out the ice funding. 359 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 1: We'll get to that detail in a moment. But the 360 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: House is out of session, so what's going to happen. 361 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: One knows what happens now. Well, that's the thing. 362 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 4: I mean, even even if somehow miraculous deal comes together 363 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 4: on the Senate side, you know, Speaker Mike Johnson, on 364 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 4: the House side, I said, he's not calling the house 365 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 4: back early. And you may say, well, why didn't you 366 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 4: do that? His notion is, hey, we had a bipartisan 367 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 4: agreement here in the House. It took us a while 368 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,479 Speaker 4: to stitch that together. The Senate should just take this 369 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 4: and run with it because it's by farisan, it's something 370 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 4: that the conservatives, moderns and liberals are enough to agree to. 371 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 4: You know, maybe we'll look at it next week, is 372 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 4: what's Mike Chount to the saying, And that means that 373 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:27,239 Speaker 4: you know, big parts of the government will not have 374 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 4: appropriations funding as of you know, midnight, tomorrow night, Saturday 375 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 4: night when you get into bed, that kind of thing. So, wow, 376 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 4: here we are going again, right, another another partial shutdown. 377 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: Well, and this on the heels of DC being shut 378 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: down for what three days this week? Essentially he did 379 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: two and a half days this week because of the snow. 380 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 1: You know that that happens there. I'm actually now wondering 381 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 1: if this means I was going to talk to you 382 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: the tail end of this, Paul, Thursday night is Star 383 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: Wars Night at the Washington Capital's home, giving out o 384 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: Wan Kenobi a bobble hop. Yeah, so you I wanted 385 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 1: to talk to you about this. I'm a hockey fand 386 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: I wonder if this means that tickets, the tickets, more 387 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: tickets will be available as folks are trying to unload 388 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: their things. But I mean, Paul, I mean, this is 389 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: here's what I'm again trying to wrap my head around here. 390 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 1: I had been under the impression that DHS had their 391 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: funding for the next four years. Not so much so 392 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: or did they want to end the funding? And by 393 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: the way, if they if they shut down, if they 394 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: want to strip out DHS funding, it's not just stripping 395 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: out ice, but stripping out a bunch of other things, 396 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: isn't it. It's a great point. 397 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you're You're making a fantastic point because 398 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 4: what a lot of the left realize is that the 399 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 4: the funding for the deportations basically you know, I other 400 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 4: related agencies, a huge chunk of funding. Additional funding was 401 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 4: provided in the One Big, Beautiful Bill as folks are calling. 402 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: Right, oh bbbbbbbb you know. 403 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 4: I mean, so even if you know there's a parts 404 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 4: of government shutdown tomorrow, the things that they're trying to 405 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 4: stop are still fully funded. Yeah, they're like ask funded. 406 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 4: So that's what's hilarious. And you're right to also say 407 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 4: if they do, you know, if no deal comes together, 408 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 4: government does shut down and maybe stay shut down for 409 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 4: a while at least these key parts. You know, part 410 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 4: of the Homeland Security Department is TSA, right, the people 411 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 4: that help me get to the airports and stay safe, right, FEMA, 412 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 4: the people who are trying to clean up down and 413 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 4: let's say Mississippi and elsewhere where there's her horrible damage 414 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 4: from the ice storm, the Secret Service, I mean, things 415 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 4: like that, Coast Guards. So I mean there's a lot 416 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 4: of other things that are being threatened by Democrat antics. Here. 417 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: Let me let me talk about something else, and literally, 418 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: I'm going to say this, I when admit this on there. 419 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: These are the kinds of things that that do wake 420 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: me up and keep me keep me up at night. 421 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot that I obviously agree with 422 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 1: with what this administration is doing. I did a appreciation 423 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago about regulatory costs and regulatory cutting. 424 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: Your colleagues at Advancing American Freedom have done some great 425 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 1: work there are continuing to do some great work on 426 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 1: that as well. One of the things that you know, 427 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: the more populist impulses from this administration, and not that 428 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 1: they don't bother me, but what bothers me is the 429 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: possibility of being shut out of being able to complain 430 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 1: about things. So let me, let me let me You're 431 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: gonna you're sitting there. I can't see Paul, guys, but 432 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: I know he's sort of sitting where the heck I'm 433 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 1: going with this? So you know, a couple of weeks ago, 434 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: the President announced that he wants to put a ten 435 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: percent cap on credit card interest rates free, right, Yeah, 436 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 1: And I know folks are like, there some folks who went, well, 437 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: you know, this is incredibly politically popular. And I keep 438 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: coming back to how am I supposed to advocate against this? 439 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: If President Bernie Sanders were to do this, or President 440 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren or President AOC or President insert whatever leftist 441 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: democrat gets elected. How am I supposed to advocate against 442 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: this when they do it? If I can't advocate against it. 443 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 1: Now we've seem to have lost this idea of being 444 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: intellectually and ideological consistent, haven't we, no. 445 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 4: Question, and we talked about this before. It's very it's 446 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 4: very disturbing. I hate how it goes back and forth, 447 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 4: right exactly because you made a perfect point. Right, if 448 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 4: if Kamala Harris had won the presidency, God FORPID and 449 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 4: she did this exact same thing, we would be ripping 450 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,199 Speaker 4: into it as price controls, as government run out of 451 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 4: Washington trying to tell private companies how to charge their customers, 452 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 4: you know, and that kind of thing. And it's just 453 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 4: like it's just something anybody, even remotely right of center, 454 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 4: should be against. I don't see where this is coming from. 455 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 4: I know it sounds sexy on like you know, a 456 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 4: bumper sticker, letch cap, credit card figure is they're ridiculous, 457 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 4: But like, take that out to its sexological conclusion. The 458 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:50,199 Speaker 4: government is setting prices for a private company. I mean, like, 459 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 4: how is that not so? 460 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: Yet? It right? And at the end of the day, right, 461 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: it's a it's a situation in which credit card interest 462 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: rates are among the most democratically determined, you know, rates 463 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 1: of lending that are out there. It's not as though 464 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 1: that there's some sort of secret sauce that's put in there. 465 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 1: They look at your credit history, they look at your 466 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: past credit payments, they look at how much money you have, 467 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 1: and they determine whether or not they want to lend 468 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: you money. You know, this is this is this is 469 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: quite literally not rocket science. By the way, I have 470 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 1: a piece up for a real clear policy yesterday on 471 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: this as you I'm sorry, Paul, go right ahead. 472 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 4: No, it really isn't rocket science. You're exactly right. And 473 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 4: you know, here's the thing. It's also a matter of fairness, 474 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 4: right in other words, like, let's just say I'm a 475 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 4: customer and maybe my credit hasn't been so great, but 476 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 4: I've worked at it, I've improved my credit, and the 477 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 4: credit card company has rewarded me with a reduced rate. Well, 478 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 4: now the guy who's who may be paying let's say 479 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 4: ten percent, who is doing great on his credit, is 480 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 4: under this proposal going to be the same as the 481 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 4: guy next to him, because he's also going to ten 482 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 4: percent rate, who has garbage credit, who has not taking 483 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 4: responsible steps. But it's the same has to be treated 484 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 4: the same. According to Big Mama Government, you know. 485 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: Right, and it makes it makes the moment that was 486 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: made during the election right where where we were talking 487 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: about the issue of student loan forgiveness and and you 488 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,439 Speaker 1: had the various people confronting first Joe Biden and then 489 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris and Tim Waltz about the idea of you know, 490 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: I've saved Scrimpton, saved for many, many years so that 491 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 1: my kids wouldn't have to, you know, incur huge amounts 492 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 1: of debt for college. You know, why why why should 493 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: I get treated the same way or or mistreated in 494 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: the same way as someone who who didn't do those things. 495 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: It's it's an excellent point as well. I mean, Paul, 496 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: what what all are you are you tracking right now? 497 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously these are the two big things, but 498 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: what all? What's what's what's on your radar screen these days? 499 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 4: We know something we should throw out there, because I 500 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 4: know that you and I have talked about this before 501 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 4: and other folks that we've worked with together, This whole 502 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 4: idea of if you pay a capital game tax right now, 503 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 4: oh yes, you you know this issue that I'm going 504 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 4: to bring it up a petish go ahead born issue 505 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 4: right if you if you pay capital game tax. You know, 506 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 4: there's a huge likelihood that you're also paying embedded in 507 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 4: that tax a tax on inflation, right, meaning like, let's 508 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 4: just say if you've bought an asset anything, you know, 509 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 4: that doesn't matter what it is. If you bought something 510 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 4: at the beginning of the Biden administration, there was twenty 511 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 4: percent inflation in the Biden years. So let's say you 512 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 4: sell that asset at the end of the Biden years, 513 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 4: it's twenty percent higher. You're now paying twenty percent. Let's 514 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 4: say it wasn't a great investment, it didn't really go 515 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 4: off that much, but you're paying now a capital gains 516 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 4: tax on a twenty percent increase. But it's really only 517 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 4: due to inflation, you know, So in other words, you're 518 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 4: paying this tax on inflation. It's totally not fair. You 519 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 4: don't have any actual new increased value. And sometimes people 520 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 4: hold on the assets because they don't want to pay 521 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 4: a massive capital gain sex, especially if a good portion 522 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 4: of it is inflation. That's a long way of saying 523 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 4: resident the Treasury Secretary actually have the regulatory power. You're 524 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 4: always talking about regulators, regulatory power to just interpret existing 525 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 4: law a certain way so that when you're calculating your 526 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 4: capital gain tax, you could back out the portion that's 527 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 4: due to inflation. Is only pay a tax on actual 528 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 4: real gains? 529 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: Is there an open rulemaking on this right now? 530 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 4: But they're talking about it. 531 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: You and I should talk more and more about this, folks. 532 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: As I've been saying on the air, I don't know what. Sorry, 533 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: just something popped up on my on my screen here 534 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: you know, no, no, no, it's this is this is the work. 535 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: This is the work that I do. And and you 536 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: and I have talked about this as well, you know, 537 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: real quick because you started this Advancing American Freedom with 538 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: with the Vice President uh and and they have been 539 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 1: growing by by leaps and bounds. Listen, I hate the reasons, 540 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: you know what's what's going on in terms of the 541 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: conservative movement. But other organization's loss is AAF's gain. This 542 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: is this is good stuff. I mean, this is the 543 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: way it's supposed to happen in d C, isn't it. 544 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: The talent is supposed to go where talent is wanted 545 00:30:59,400 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: and respected. 546 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 4: Well on that today, and there's just a lot of 547 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 4: great hires recently at Advanced American for really top top 548 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 4: top folks. I mean folks like Richard Stern, John Malcolm, 549 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 4: Hans von Spakowski, some of these names you may know 550 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 4: if you listeners don't like, a quick Google search on 551 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 4: some of them, you'll see these are just top thinkers, 552 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 4: top activists too. You know, these aren't people that just 553 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 4: write white papers and stare at the ceiling. 554 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: I mean, these are doers. 555 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 4: These are people who try to put things into action, 556 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 4: into law, into policymaking, that kind of thing. 557 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: So it's been a. 558 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 4: Huge, you know, win for advanced American freedom. But you're 559 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 4: also right to say it makes me very uncomfortable to 560 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 4: have any divisions amongst friends on the right. We just 561 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 4: need all conservative organizations. All organizations should be growing and thriving. 562 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 4: We should be collaborating, and there's just good people at 563 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 4: all kinds of places. 564 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: So yeah, you're you're here, so listen. In any case, 565 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: you know, Paul was we got to leave it there. 566 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: Paul Teller, he is Teller Strategies is a president of 567 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: pe Teller on on X. Thank you so very much. 568 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: And you and I need to chat about Star Wars night. 569 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: Thanks for flying that without a doubt. Talk all right, 570 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: take care. That was Paul Tellago check him out online. 571 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: And when we come back, we're gonna be talking a 572 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: little bit about the Navy. And yeah, something popped up 573 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: here on my screen. The Sunflower Matt's controversy continues. I'm 574 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: Andrew Langer in for Tony Kats today. Oh, welcome back everybody. Wow, 575 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: it's it's it's getting wild out here, guys. So as 576 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: I was talking to Paul, you heard me get a 577 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: little distracted there because popped up on my Twitter feed. 578 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 1: By the way, you can join the conversation. Let me 579 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: say this again. Uh the phone number here three one 580 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: seven six three eighty seven hundred. That's how you can 581 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: call us here. You could also email me while I'm 582 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: on the air, Andrew Langer Radio. And for those of 583 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: you new to this, Andrew spelled the normal way, A 584 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: N D R E W. Andrew Langer l A n 585 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: G E R Radio spelled the normal way. Andrew Langer 586 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: Radio at gmail dot com. You can also at me 587 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: on at me on Twitter. So earlier in the hour 588 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: talking about this story about Indy car and DC and 589 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: a DC race and specifically these some tweets by someone 590 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: named Sunflower Mats. Now, let me also explain I don't 591 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: think he's going to be upset that I'm throwing him 592 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: under the bus here. I was hipped to this. I 593 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: don't know who Sunflower Mads is. I was hip to 594 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: this by Tony's producer Landon. It's a great guy and 595 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: you're welcome and so so Landon says this to me, 596 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know something, let me talk about this 597 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: because this is kind of crazy. Go nuts. It's a 598 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: big story, and you know, I like this. So then 599 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: then I get this. As I'm talking to Paul Teller, 600 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: I get this tweet at me because I tweeted out, 601 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: you know, up screenshot of Sunflower Mads locking down her account, 602 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 1: and I get this tweet at me. I don't know 603 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: why people think they should be allowed to harass other 604 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: people for having a different opinion. No one was harassing anybody. 605 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: She has this Twitter feed. I talk about cars going 606 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 1: fast and sometimes other sports. All of us thoughts and 607 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 1: opinions are my own to do or not reflect out 608 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 1: of any employer. She knows that what she's going to 609 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,839 Speaker 1: be saying is potentially controversial, so she puts that out there. 610 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: I get it. It's fine, it's social media. So I 611 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 1: got this, and then the person then writes, and this 612 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 1: is someone new hurt kirkculew. I don't know what that means. 613 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: I guess it may be somebody named Kate. They may 614 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: also have a Twitter account called Champagne Podium pre war 615 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,919 Speaker 1: AOWR history, Detroit Hockey and Baseball as posting bonus Kate. 616 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 1: That's why I think it's someone to the name is Kate. 617 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 1: Then they write like this is truly weirdo behavior, and 618 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: then they write if you think that this event is 619 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 1: a good idea, that's e fing fine. You actually don't 620 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: have to harass other people who disagree, and you certainly 621 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,879 Speaker 1: don't have to be an efing weirdo and read off 622 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 1: tweets off on a radio show and then get pressed 623 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 1: when somebody sets a boundary like and then they go 624 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: from there. It's actually not hard to be decent, and 625 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 1: the above is not decent behavior. I do not care 626 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 1: what you feel about the DC IndyCar event, to which 627 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 1: I then responded and let me add to this because 628 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 1: it's important here. Let me make sure you understand. I'm 629 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 1: a radio host. It's not my full time gigkets want 630 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 1: to do part time when stuff mentions my name or 631 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 1: stuff catches my eye and it's in the public sphere. 632 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 1: I am going to talk about it on the radio. 633 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: That's what we do. It's not harassment. This person, Sunflower Mads, 634 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,919 Speaker 1: was commenting on a breaking news story that was sent 635 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,839 Speaker 1: to me. So I'm gonna comment on her commentary. That's 636 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 1: not weird. I'm gonna comment on it. If she's going 637 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: to block people after a voice in her opinion, that's 638 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 1: also not weird. It's not stalking, it's not Oh my goodness, 639 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: people don't understand, and the way the Woolworks landed, they 640 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 1: don't anyway. I'm Andrew Langer. This, of course, is Tony 641 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:05,879 Speaker 1: Katz Today.