1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: So last night, let me explain what happened that I 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: had no idea about. None, did not have any idea that. 3 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: And I mean, you always know about this as a 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: matter of fact, if you were to go back to 5 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: high school, and it was I mean I was probably 6 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: thirty before I figured this out. But when you attend 7 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 1: a high school that has North in the title of 8 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 1: the school for whatever, so our yearbook at Northstor High School, 9 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: nobody cares, I realized. But there's a point to this. 10 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: The yearbook was called the then the Northerner or the 11 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: Northern Lights, I think, and then there was like an 12 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: offshoot of that, kind of like an underground newspaper, if 13 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, called the Aurora Borealis. And I never was. 14 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: It was like thirty years old before I realized, oh, 15 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: the Aurora borealis is the official name of the Northern Lights. 16 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: And so I always knew of the Northern Lights. And 17 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: all I knew was that, like if you go to 18 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,559 Speaker 1: the North Pole and you get out of the way 19 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: of Eddie Garrison, the Elf, while you're up in the 20 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: North Pole, you can look up and the sky is 21 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: pink or red or purple or whatever, and that's what 22 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: I knew of the Northern Lights, right. And then last 23 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: night I'm literally minding my own business, tending to things, 24 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: getting things set for today when Jamb's going to take over. 25 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: Thanks for that, and we'll get into that. And I'm 26 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: going on vacation and suddenly and I'm on a group 27 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: text of friends from high school, and Michelle Connell sends 28 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: this text and says, hey, is everybody looking at the 29 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: Northern Lights? And I thought, why is she looking at 30 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: a high school newspaper from thirty six years ago? That 31 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: seems odd, right, And then I hear it. I get 32 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: in my car and I hear the song right, and 33 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: it starts to dance in my head. And so everybody 34 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: is posting pictures everywhere of the North lights, right, and 35 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: the pink hue of the sky. Now, Eddie, you didn't 36 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: get to see it because you were in here doing 37 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: the pacer game. 38 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 2: Correct, That is correct? 39 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: Okay? So I drive up north and I go to 40 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: my sister's house up near Carmel, and she has kind 41 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: of a field in her neighborhood and lo and behold, 42 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: lo and behold. And you know, oftentimes people will say 43 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: with something like that that you need you. Well, you 44 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 1: can't see it to the naked eye, but if you 45 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: take a picture on your iPhone, you know, then you 46 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: can see it. Well, I never thought I would see 47 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: the northern lights. I knew about the song from fish, 48 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: I knew about the old newspaper. I never thought I 49 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 1: would see it. And I looked up and I believe 50 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: this is also the case tonight, Eddie. So you have 51 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: a chance at reprieve here, right. Yes, Well, the northern 52 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: lights doesn't like it doesn't have like, you know, banking hours. 53 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that it's just there, right, So 54 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: it's not like. 55 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 2: The uh oh, I can't even I'm gonna stop talking. 56 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: The full moon, thank yeah, the what's the one they 57 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: call when there's like two full moons, the blue moon 58 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,119 Speaker 1: or whatever it is that the supermoon. I think there's 59 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: a super moon from time to time. So the northern 60 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: lights are essentially as I understand it, and my understanding 61 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: would be vague at best, because even though I had 62 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:16,679 Speaker 1: to go back and take college electives two years ago, 63 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:18,679 Speaker 1: been a while since I've studied this kind of thing. 64 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: But as I understand it, it has to do with 65 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: solar flares and then as well the crystals of the 66 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 1: atmosphere and the way that that is interpreted and then 67 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: or not interpreted. But you know what I mean, the 68 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: way it comes through and the colors that it creates. 69 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: So last night, I'm standing there and my sister says, no, 70 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: you just you got to wait, and all of a sudden, 71 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: like it'll just happen like from time to time, and boom, 72 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: there it was. There it was, And I'm standing in Indianapolis, Indiana, 73 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:55,839 Speaker 1: looking up at the northwestern sky and one of those 74 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: things that I never thought I would see. I never 75 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: thought i'd see the Northern Lights unless I went somewhere, 76 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: you know, to Norway to go see it. And it 77 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: was pretty cool. It was very surreal and it was 78 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: cool to see it and you could see it to 79 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: the naked eye. And that's kind of like where we 80 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: are right now in the world of sports in Indianapolis, 81 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: truth be told. Did you think six months ago that 82 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: going into the bye week, that we would be talking 83 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 1: about a colts team that is eight and two. Did 84 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: you think six months ago, for that matter, Yeah, five 85 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: months ago that we would be talking about a Pacer 86 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: team that still had a win, and that win. If 87 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken is over Golden State, if memory serves 88 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 1: me correct, and that that would be it, and that 89 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: they would go out and you would be seeing games 90 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 1: where they're going into Utah and they're getting beat by 91 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: like thirty even though for some of these games they're 92 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: hanging around you and they're playing okay. They just don't 93 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: have great players, you know, they're let me phrase that 94 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: they're great players are not available to them and those 95 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: that are are playing in sparing minutes. Did you think 96 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: that we would be talking about Indiana as the second 97 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: ranked team in college football and that the college Football 98 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: Playoff rankings would be coming out for a second installment 99 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: and Indiana would still be the talk of college football 100 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: and the ire of Texas A and M and Georgia 101 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: and big time programs, that they would be looking up 102 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: at Indiana, and that those Georgia and Texas A and 103 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 1: M thought for certain that never in their lifetime would 104 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: they have to look up in the rankings and see 105 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: the hue of cream and crimson, just like you did 106 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 1: not think that you would ever be able to stand 107 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 1: out in a field in Carmel, Indiana and look up 108 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: and see the hue of the Northern Lights And did 109 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: you ever think that Purdue, for example, would be the 110 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 1: number one team in college basketball, win a game and 111 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: still slip in the rankings as a result of it. 112 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: There are so many things going on that seem to 113 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: be this like supernatural anomaly within Central Indiana, and I'm 114 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: here for it. I love it because most of it's good. 115 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 1: The Pacers aspect, as we talked about yesterday, might actually 116 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: be a silver lining within it might be we may 117 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: find out. Can you imagine, Eddie, if the Pacers end 118 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: up with a top five pick in the draft and 119 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: end up with an opportunity to get you know, the 120 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: kid from BYU or whatever it may be, or a 121 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: transcendent player to add to this roster. But last night, 122 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: when you were watching that game, you're thinking to yourself, 123 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: this is a team that was just in the finals. 124 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: But let's begin with this on this Wednesday. I believe 125 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: today's a Wednesday, correct, Eddie? Now you love it here today? Right? 126 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 1: You're here today? 127 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 3: Right? 128 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: Yeah? 129 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 2: I think I am everything going okay over there? 130 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: Yes, seem like like are you looking at the ring 131 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: camera at home and the house is on fire? 132 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 4: No? 133 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: No, no, So as I get up today and I'm 134 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: thinking about all of that. I did see a story 135 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: about the NFL free agency upcoming, and yes, we're not 136 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: necessarily in free agency right now, but it's never too 137 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: early to start talking about and looking at and forecasting 138 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: who exactly might be there available to your team or 139 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: what players are of interest elsewhere and whoever would have 140 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: guessed again, theme of the day, that the Colts would 141 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: find themselves in position where some of the marquee players 142 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: in the National Football League of availability. People are going 143 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: to be driving around four sixty five trying to pluck 144 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: those players away. Because right now on ESPN they have 145 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: a listing of the most desirable free agents once free 146 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: agency begins here coming up in the off season. Now, 147 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: I do think that these are guys that for the 148 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: most part, the Colts are going to do everything they 149 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: can to retain all three of them. There have been 150 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: players in times, in periods and positions where you look 151 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: at some guys and you go, Okay, we know that 152 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: player is a free agent, but they're probably going to 153 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: let him walk because the salary doesn't match, or it 154 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: just hasn't been a match, or they have a player, 155 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: a good player that is there in the taking for them, 156 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: but for the Colts. There are three that made the 157 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 1: list on ESPN dot com of most desirable free agents 158 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: in the offseason. Daniel Jones, Braden Smith and Alec Pierce 159 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: the three that are at the top now. Of those three, 160 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: clearly the one that is of the biggest priority would 161 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: be Daniel Jones. But and I hate to be Debbie 162 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: Downer here, I really do wonder if I am the 163 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: only person who feels this way. And yes, I sat 164 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: here on this radio show and vociferously claimed a month 165 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: ago that Daniel Jones was the Colts MVP. And I 166 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: still you know, he has been fabulous and they are 167 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 1: in a situation now where he probably has even more 168 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: value to the Colts than he does elsewhere because of 169 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 1: the fact that you you know, he knows the system, 170 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: he knows has a very good relationship with Stichen, knows 171 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 1: the offense, knows the players, and in addition to that, 172 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: they have now sacrificed and mortgaged and put a lot 173 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: of investment into him because they have sent two first 174 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: round picks elsewhere to get Sauce Gardner. And based on 175 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: sending those two picks away, that means where do you 176 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 1: find his replacement? 177 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:04,719 Speaker 4: There? 178 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: Are not many quarterbacks in the league right now that 179 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: were beyond who is the best quarterback Eddie in the 180 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: National Football League right now that was not drafted in 181 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: the first round. 182 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 2: Lamar Oh, I know, Lamar was the very last pick. 183 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: I mean, you'd have to think about it, right. 184 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd have to actually research on quarterbacks thirty Yeah, 185 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 2: obviously he was, you know, but he's hurt right now. 186 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 2: So total anomaly, I realized. But you see my point. 187 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, And so that would lead you to believe that 188 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: for the Colts, they're like, yes, this is our guy. However, 189 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be I try to be consistent 190 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 1: and I try to stand by something when I say it. 191 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: The one thing that I will say is the last 192 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: two games, Daniel Jones and some of the turnovers are 193 00:10:54,600 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: starting to give me, not pause, but I'm awakened to 194 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: a potential concern when I look at that. And I 195 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: look at because that's the thing. If you were to 196 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: go buy a car and you're gonna go buy a 197 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: used car, you had bought yourself a car that you bought, 198 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: a Ferrari, and you thought for certain, You're like, I've 199 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: waited my whole life to have a Ferrari. 200 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 2: Oh, I think I missed the obvious when Jalen Hurts. 201 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, but again Jalen Hurts. Good news, I guess 202 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: is the fact that Jalen Hurts was partially awakened by 203 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: the guy that's coaching the Colts. So back, maybe that 204 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: gives you Dak Prescott's another one, but for the most part, 205 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: it is rare. Right. Let's say that you go out, 206 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: and I'm not even gonna say, Ferrari, you go out 207 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: and you buy yourself a sports car that looks everything 208 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: about it is exactly what you have always dreamed of having, 209 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: and you have waited forever. You've had a car that 210 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: you keep having to put more and more money into it, 211 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: and your mechanic and your significant other, and every person's like, look, man, 212 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to quit driving this car. You've got 213 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: to get a new car. Whether you get a new 214 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 1: used car or a brand new car, I don't care. 215 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:15,719 Speaker 1: But you are just wasting your money with this car. 216 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: And that's what the Colts were doing in the quarterback 217 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: position for a long time. Look, you're gonna have to 218 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: get a quarterback. I know you want to get Philip Rivers. 219 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: I know you want to get Matt Ryan. I know 220 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: you want to reawaken those guys and extend and keep 221 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: taking it to the mechanic and putting a little more 222 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:33,719 Speaker 1: money in it and getting another ten thousand miles out 223 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: of it. I get it. But eventually you've got to 224 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: make the commitment and get a car. So you do that, 225 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,839 Speaker 1: and you go and you get your dream sports car, 226 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 1: and it looks sleek, and it looks fast, and it 227 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: can absolutely drive in the open road like nobody's business. 228 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: But unfortunately, the second that you get at, the forecast 229 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: changes and it's literally snow, ice and or rain six 230 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: days a week. And you're like, yeah, on the seventh day, 231 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 1: this car is unbelievably fun. Well that's true, but it's 232 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 1: in the garage a lot. Well, I know, but it's 233 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: hard to drive in these conditions or it's got this 234 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 1: going on. So eventually, you say, while I understand, I 235 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: have the sleek, sexy, super fun, intriguing, waited my whole 236 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: life for it, brand new sports car in my garage, 237 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: I've got to go out and just get a simply 238 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: reliable car with twenty five thousand miles on it that 239 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: is really good from a to b and you a 240 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: Honda Civic and you go and you get that car 241 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: and you pick it up, and the guy that you 242 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: buy it from says, I'm just warning you this car, 243 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: even though everything about it is super reliable, there are 244 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: times where the muffler rattles, and there are times where 245 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: like the suspension slips a little bit. And you get 246 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: it and as soon as you start driving it, you're like, 247 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: this thing's unbelievable and you have zero problem with it, 248 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: and everything literally hums along with no problem whatsoever. 249 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 2: Jake, I love your sound effects. I need a muffler 250 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 2: one and a suspension or whatever. 251 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 1: You say. That's your muffler, right, there's your suspension. Okay, 252 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: I'm familiar with that, so more would be like, but 253 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: you get my point. So once those little sound effects 254 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: come into play, once you start to hear it, because 255 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: the guy that you bought the car from had told 256 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: you it had otherwise been a good car, but the 257 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: muffler and the suspension were the reason why he was 258 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: able to sell it to you for a really good price. 259 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: As soon as you start to hear even a hint 260 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: of those two things, it literally is like when you 261 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: look up in your rear view mirror and you see 262 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: a bee flying in your car, It's like, oh my gosh, 263 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: holy cow, here it comes and it begins, it accentuates itself, 264 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: and it's louder, and it seems exaggerated. And that's where 265 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: the Colts are right now, seemingly if you really think 266 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: about it, not the Colts, but as a Colts fan, 267 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: where if you want to put yourself there. And I'm 268 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: kind of there with Daniel Jones. I'm not saying that 269 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: I'm ready to trade in the car by any stretch 270 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: of the imagination, but for the first time, I'm starting 271 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: to hear the sound of the muffler, of the suspension 272 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: that are the reason the car was available to begin with. 273 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: And for the first seven times that I drove to work, 274 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: it was flawless, the smoothest ride ever. Yeah, and that's 275 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: where you are. And then you look at it and 276 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: you go, yeah, but I already took my rain and 277 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: day fund for car a new car and spend it. 278 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 2: I think your bff said at best yesterday day Jake 279 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 2: talking about Derek Schultz, the Colts were operating at a 280 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 2: level of efficiency that just was not sustainable, Like it 281 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 2: was record pace you knew the offense is going to 282 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 2: come down in some Now. I will say the ball 283 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 2: security part of it, I think is the easiest fix 284 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 2: in terms of putting it all on the ground. That's 285 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 2: just you know, being aware of, Hey, I need to 286 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 2: have two hands on the football at all times when 287 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 2: I'm in the pocket, and I can't just have the 288 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 2: ball loosey goosey when I'm running outside the pocket to 289 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 2: where it can you know, slip out of my hand 290 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 2: and when I'm going down to the boundary. 291 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: Agree any but the problem is this, Okay, and again 292 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: admittedly okay. 293 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 4: This is like. 294 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: What we're doing right now is going out into a 295 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: caramel field to see the northern lights and this beauty 296 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: before us that we did not anticipate was going to 297 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: be there, and is the anomaly that you're enjoying. And 298 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: we're complaining about the one neighbor that has a spotlight 299 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: motion detector on their house that's making it hard to 300 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: see the lights. In general, we still have the Colts 301 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: are eight and two heading into the by and things 302 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: are going very well. We are admittedly nitpicking or forecasting 303 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: what could be a potential issue here, but I don't 304 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: disagree with you about seemingly it's an easy fix, so 305 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 1: to speak, with protection of the football, except for that 306 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: that is the exact same thing that was said about 307 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 1: him in New York. And at some point something is 308 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: what it is. And if the inability to protect the 309 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: football is part of the reason why he was available 310 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: to begin with, then all of a sudden, when that 311 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: suspension starts to squeak a little bit, you'd just become 312 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: a little more hypertuned to it. Simply that the other 313 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: two that were listed on this free agent list of 314 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: desirable NFL free agents were Braiden Smith and Alec Pierce, 315 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 1: and Braiden Smith is an interesting one because they know 316 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: and they have gone through a year without him, essentially, 317 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: and I'm glad that the things that he worked through 318 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: he worked through and came back and he's been a 319 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 1: really solid player for them. But at the same time, 320 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: because of his when I say age, it's not like 321 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: the guy's forty. But Chris Ballard has done a good 322 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 1: job of finding offensive lineman. Gonzalveez has been a really 323 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: good find. Bordolini was a really good find. And finding 324 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: guys even if it's not necessarily at their natural position, 325 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 1: you know, maybe you get a tackle and you move 326 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: them over to guard to replace Braden Smith. But they 327 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: now because of the fact if you don't have a 328 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 1: first round pick, but you have shored up areas elsewhere, 329 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: most areas that I think that you are taking care 330 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: of in an NFL draft. The Colts have done a 331 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: good job now where they have a good, young, solid room. 332 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: They're not really in need of receiver. They're not in 333 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: need of tight end, they're not in need of corner, 334 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: they're not in need of safety, and so they can 335 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 1: spend one would assume a second or a third round 336 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: pick on alignment if they so need now getting one 337 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,479 Speaker 1: and immediately putting them in as a starter in the NFL. 338 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: That's again a different talk show. But I do think 339 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: that of the three between Jones, Smith and the next 340 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: guy I'm going to mention, Smith becomes your third priority. 341 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: And that third, which might be the most important, is 342 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: Alec Pierce. We talked about it yesterday with Derek. Alec 343 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: Pearce right now might be the best receiver on the 344 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 1: Colts roster because he Michael Pittman is a dog. He 345 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: is a and that's a good thing. Michael Pittman has 346 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 1: I think a year ago we were complaining about Michael 347 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 1: Pittman or raising our shoulders about Michael Pittman, And in reality, 348 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: Michael Pittman is a go out there and get it done. 349 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,120 Speaker 1: Excuse me, get it done on every play while hurt guy. 350 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: And when he was going over the middle of a 351 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: year ago and taking big hits, I mean, you know, 352 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: he had his back was hurt, but he played through it. 353 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: He was a use every NFL term you want, a dog, 354 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: a warrior, whatever else. I know some people get upset 355 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 1: with warrior, but he was a tough guy and he's 356 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: been a great player for them. And Josh Downs is 357 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: certainly an important floating a meeba all over the place. 358 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: Wherever you need to find a play, Josh Downs seemingly 359 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: is there an Ashton Doolan. I think everybody knows how 360 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 1: much I love Ashton Doulan. Find yourself in Ashton Doolan. 361 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 1: But Alec Pierce in terms of the versatility that he 362 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: has number one because he can get behind the defense. 363 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: But also now because he has whether it's that he 364 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: has reinvented himself in this area or they have reinvented 365 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: the way to use him, he can be an online 366 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: bubble screen or short yardage almost possession level receiver. His 367 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: versatility is definitely to be commended. And then you throw 368 00:20:58,080 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: in the fact Eddie that there's rumor that he dated 369 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 1: Sidney Sweeney. 370 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 2: Right, I don't think I've ever seen that. I've never 371 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 2: seen that rumor. 372 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 1: You've not seen the rumor that Sidney Sweeney and Alec Pearce. 373 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:10,239 Speaker 1: I think maybe they just like went out and got 374 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: frozen yogur at once. Look up. Can you do me 375 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: a favor and it might be dangerous on the company 376 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 1: work side. Here website, look up Sidney Sweeney, Alec peers 377 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: and see if anything pops up, at least in terms 378 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 1: of on the internet. You don't see anything. You've never heard? 379 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: Am I the only one that's heard this? Am I 380 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: the only one? Greg? Greg Strot's going to join us 381 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 1: just a couple of minutes, and I'll ask Greg if 382 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 1: he's familiar with this. I'm googling it right now. Sidney Sweeney, 383 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: Alec Pearce. 384 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 2: No, I have never No, there's not even a single 385 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 2: thing that pops up. 386 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: There is no evidence of a prominent Alec Pierce being 387 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: connected to her. I'm telling you I know I did 388 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: not make this up. I heard this at some point. 389 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 1: I think you might have dreamt it, Jacob, No, I'm 390 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: telling you it was during training camp. There was a 391 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 1: rumor there was like one thing out there that Alec 392 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: Pierce haid it supposedly met up with Sidney Sweeney. Yeah, 393 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: I've just like met up with that, telling. 394 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 2: You call me crazy, I think you're making this up 395 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:09,199 Speaker 2: on the. 396 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: Show today, Greg reg Star going to join us in 397 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 1: a couple of minutes. Maybe I'll ask Greg if that's 398 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: I'm telling you like I didn't make I'm not saying 399 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: it's founded. I'm not saying it's factual, but the rumor 400 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,959 Speaker 1: was out there. I'm certain that there was a rumor 401 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 1: at one point that Sidney Sweeney and Alec Pierce like 402 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 1: had met or he like reached out to her or something, 403 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 1: or they were somewhere. He's a nice looking guy, right 404 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: he is. Are you saying that that's not necessarily that 405 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: not in her category? You said that in this belief? No, 406 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: I just. 407 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 2: Get very weary of complimenting other men. 408 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: Why that Matthew McConaughey is a nice looking fella, right, 409 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: if you were going to be if you were if 410 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 1: we were doing a movie right now of my life? 411 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: Who would play you? 412 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 2: Oh wow, I'm not even sure. I thought of your 413 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 2: Vern from Standby Me, But you don't look like him. Now, 414 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 2: I've never seen stand by Me, so I don't know 415 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 2: who Vern is or what he looks like. 416 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: I feel like there's one of the guys from Entourage. 417 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,479 Speaker 1: I've not watched a lot of Entourage, but there's one 418 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 1: of the characters from Entourage that you remind me of. 419 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 2: I've been told that looks like Salvacano from Impractical Jokers. 420 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: But okay, does he have a large melon? 421 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 4: I do not know. 422 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: Which takes us back to Sidney Sweeney. So you don't 423 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: believe that she actually ever like met up with or 424 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 1: Alec Pearson. 425 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 2: I don't think may pass, et cetera. Okay, don't think so. 426 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 1: Greg Reix start going to join us on the show today. 427 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: Also Joel Erickson will join us. And this is the 428 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: definition of teamwork and a lot of people. I think 429 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 1: people now know this, but originally, you know, yesterday we 430 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: had Derek Schultz on the show, for example, and Derek 431 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 1: and I of course did a show together for I 432 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: don't know, eight, nine, ten years something like that. Over 433 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: on another radio station that no longer has local sports programming. 434 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 1: And during that time, Derek and I were up each 435 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: and every day against JMV. I mean we were essentially 436 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: in terms of the business itself, we were rivals. And 437 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: however j ANDV kind of cut his teeth, came up 438 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: through the ranks working for Mark Patrick. I was doing 439 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 1: the same for Ed Sorenson, and Ed Sorenson and Mark 440 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 1: Patrick were rivals, which naturally would make John and I 441 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: rivals of one another, just through you know, like the 442 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: osmosis of being around the person who is like your mentor. 443 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: And I recall one time JMV and Mark Patrick when 444 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: I was working for Ed. Ed was kind of an instigator, 445 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 1: and Ed one day said to me, Yeah, I was 446 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 1: out a show and you know, at a ballgame or 447 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: whatever in the media room and Mark Patrick and that 448 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: guy JMV were talking about you, meaning me, and I 449 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: called John. I'd never met him, and I called him. 450 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: I was like, hey, so I hear like, you were 451 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: talking about me whatever, And JMV is like, what are 452 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: you talking about? This was literally twenty five years ago. 453 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 1: We sat there and had a long laugh about the guy. 454 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 1: You know, the things that we were going through as 455 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 1: young guys just trying to make our way into the industry, 456 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 1: and then when it just so happened based on circumstance 457 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: that we worked alongside against one another, I should say 458 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: I think there were people that, you know, it certainly 459 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 1: would happen with me where people would be like, yeah, 460 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 1: you know, I listened to you instead of JMV. And 461 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 1: I doubt that people said that to J and V 462 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: about the show that Derek and I were doing because 463 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 1: we were on a smaller station. But nonetheless, what people 464 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: didn't know was that on the regular, probably once a week, 465 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: maybe twice a week, he and I would talk on 466 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 1: the phone all the time, just about the industry that 467 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: we're in and the shows that we're doing, and the 468 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 1: things that we were trying to do and you know, 469 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 1: trying to keep radio going and growing it. And then 470 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: of course now we are colleagues. So today my vacation, 471 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: I'm going on vacation. We are leaving later this afternoon, 472 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: but my flight is such that I've got to leave 473 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: a little early today. And JANEV said, you know what, 474 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: no problem, I'll come in and do the show an 475 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: hour early and do four hours instead of three hours 476 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: today and that's the definition of that's teamwork, that's teammate right. 477 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: That is being that literally is like Tyrese Halliburton saying, 478 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 1: you know what, Aaron Neesmith can't be there, but I'll 479 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 1: go ahead and play small forward for the day, which 480 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: is very much appreciated. And one of the guys that's 481 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: going to fill in for me while I'm gone, Greg Regstraw, 482 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 1: will ask him not only about the Colts that goes 483 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: without saying, but something else that he saw yesterday that 484 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: I think is kind of growing on the radar of Indianapolis, 485 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: and I'll ask him about that next. Tellan YOUA, it's 486 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 1: what it was last night. It was unbelievable. I I 487 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 1: it was crazy to me because to know that the 488 00:26:55,960 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 1: Northern Lights was visible in northern Indianapolis and to not 489 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 1: know about that until it was dark outside. You would 490 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: have thought that would have been the kind of thing 491 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: that you know, like maybe it was you know, a 492 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 1: month out that people would be like, hey, the Northern 493 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: Lights on you know eleven eleven, take a look at it. 494 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,719 Speaker 1: Maybe you can't forecast that ahead of time, kind of 495 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: like how you can't forecast that the Colts on the 496 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: bye week would be eight and two, sitting as the 497 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 1: number one seed within the AFC, or right at the 498 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: top of things for the NFL. The guy that does, 499 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 1: of course, the postgame show that you hear on the 500 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: Colts radio network. Joining us now in the Java House 501 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: Peel and Port guest line Greg Reichstraw, who you'll hear 502 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: on this radio station, and I'm grateful for that over 503 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: the next couple of days while I'm on vacation, joining 504 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: us now, rig let's begin with I want to get 505 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: to the Colts actually, but before that, I want to 506 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: ask you about something that you witnessed yesterday. Not the 507 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,199 Speaker 1: Aurora borealis of the Northern Lights, but that we were 508 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 1: kind of waiting to light up, and that is the 509 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: IU Indie basketball offense. Because I knew when they went 510 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: out and got a new head coach and talked about 511 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: it in the Horizon League media days that IU Indy 512 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: was anticipated they were going to be this high flying offense, 513 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: and not that they haven't been, but apparently yesterday against 514 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 1: IU Columbus, they really flipped that switch. 515 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 3: And you were there, correct, correct, So A my ears 516 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 3: are still ringing from fifty five hundred elementary school kids 517 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 3: being at the game, a new IU Indie record. This 518 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 3: is something that they've done a handful of years in 519 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 3: terms of having a weekday met and a game. And 520 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 3: frankly Baseball's had this idea forever, having a baseball and 521 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 3: education day, and now minor league hockey does it, and 522 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 3: a lot of kind of small colleges slash low to 523 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 3: mid d ones will do it too. Take one home game, 524 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 3: usually against the non Division one foe, and play an 525 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 3: afternoon game and bring in some field trip kids and 526 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 3: have a good time with it. And so yes IU 527 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 3: ind put up one hundred and twenty one points and 528 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 3: the two stats that probably would jump off the page 529 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 3: at you. IU Indy attempted forty threes in yesterday's game. 530 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 3: It was a forty minute game. You can do the 531 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 3: math on the pace on that uh And then in 532 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 3: terms of the points off turnovers, yesterday the Jaguars won 533 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 3: that margin fifty one to ten because IU Columbus and 534 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 3: the ball over thirty six times. That is what that 535 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,959 Speaker 3: high pressure, high pace offense is designed to do. And 536 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 3: now we'll see if that will translate against Division one competition. 537 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 3: When the jack or was turned to it against Eastern 538 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 3: Michigan on Friday night. 539 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, Greg, that was the thing I was going to 540 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: ask is. And the reason I ask it is because 541 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: people love anomaly offenses. And I'm not saying that IU 542 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: Indy's doing it like as some sort of a gimmick. 543 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: I mean, this is, you know, from the coaching standpoint, 544 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: Ben Hallett, I believe is his name, like, this is 545 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: what he brings with him right from and we saw 546 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: it with Indiana State with Josh sure Is coming in 547 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: and we didn't know who this was and then all 548 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: of a sudden, like they just were clicking offensively. Do 549 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: you believe this is an offense that can sustain and 550 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: keep people on their heels within the Horizon League? 551 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 3: I absolutely do. You know, I think as time goes on, 552 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 3: you know, you know, Ben got the job in late May, 553 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 3: brought a handful of kids with him from West Liberty, 554 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 3: where he had been tremendously successful in Division two. I 555 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 3: had frequently made the Elite eight. His record at West 556 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 3: Liberty was two seventeen and thirty seven, And so it 557 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 3: tells you that it worked at that level. I do 558 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 3: think it can work with a Division one level. I 559 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 3: think as Ben is able to recruit more players that 560 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 3: want to play this system where you can go, hey, 561 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 3: there's really no such thing as a bad shot, Hey 562 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 3: you kind of got free or aim to let it fly. Hey, 563 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 3: we're gonna play, you know, twenty twenty five minutes a game. 564 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 3: Go play with your air on fire and have a 565 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 3: good time. I think the level of recruit will increase, 566 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 3: and I think level of success I think will increase 567 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 3: for IU Indy as well. And what if your reference 568 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 3: Josh Shirts and I'm glad. I think part of what 569 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 3: we're also, you know, seeing is that for a long 570 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 3: time there was kind of a glass ceiling on guys 571 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 3: that were really good small college coaches that just didn't 572 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 3: give an opportunity in Division one. Well, Josh Shurtz has 573 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 3: done that now at Saint Louis. But McCollum has done that, 574 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 3: you know now at Iowa after going through Drake and 575 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 3: so Ben Hallett hopes to be the next guy that 576 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 3: does that, and I you indeed obviously hopes to be 577 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 3: the benefactor of that too. 578 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: Greg Greg Straw is my guest Java House Peel and 579 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: poor guest. Line of course, Greg, also you hear his voice, 580 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: not only will you be hearing it here with this 581 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: radio station over the next couple of days, thankfully, but 582 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: also in the Colts postgame shows and Greg, you know 583 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: you've done so far this year, there were probably more 584 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: occasions than not where you sat down and thought, is 585 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: this like, is this real? And I don't mean that 586 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: as a disrespect to the Colts, you know what I mean, 587 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: at what point did you realize this is in fact 588 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: real and this team is not going away? 589 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 3: You know, I thought it was really about a month 590 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 3: or so in just because yes, I acknowledge the Colt 591 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 3: slit up some bad football teams early in the season, 592 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 3: but at the same time, most teams don't win by 593 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 3: that margin of victory against anybody in the National Football League. 594 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 3: And the two Colts losses, you know, the Steelers are 595 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 3: probably a middling five hundred team that you know, I 596 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 3: think maybe had their best defense ever of the season 597 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 3: against the Colts. I think the Rams are pretty good 598 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 3: football team, and to be honest, the Colts kind of 599 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 3: gave that game away. But once you get to like 600 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 3: mid October and you're sitting there at five to one, 601 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 3: you go, all right, I think this is pretty legitimate. 602 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 3: So I think this team is real now, It does 603 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 3: not mean they are enemy challenges in front of them. 604 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 3: You could probably say that Atlanta is the you know, 605 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 3: starting from Sunday going forward, is the worst team to 606 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 3: Colt will face the rest of the way. You know 607 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 3: you've got We're out of six division games against Jacksonville 608 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 3: and Houston. The other three games left Kansas City, Seattle, 609 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 3: and San Francisco. So nothing comes easy of the seven 610 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 3: games the Colts have left. But because of the style 611 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 3: the Colts play and because of the general thought that 612 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 3: you can run the ball on anybody, that gives you 613 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 3: a chance against anybody, and so I think there are 614 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 3: potentially great things out of his football team. 615 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: Jake, do you have concern? Greg Or, Well, let me 616 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 1: rephrase that I have concern, and then I want you 617 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: to tell me if you think that I am being 618 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: way too paranoid slash critical. Daniel Jones has been spectacular, 619 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: and I know I've sung his praises on the regular here. 620 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: But the football security the last couple of weeks is 621 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: starting to suddenly give me a little bit of PTSD 622 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: of what happened when he was in New York. Talk 623 00:33:58,240 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 1: me off that. 624 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 3: Ledge, No, that's fair, and that is on my radar 625 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 3: as well. And the thing that would correspond to that 626 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 3: would be the fact that, you know, we sang the 627 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,720 Speaker 3: praises of the offensive line, both run block and past block. 628 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 3: You know, for the first eight weeks of the season, 629 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 3: all of a sudden there's a lot more pressure around 630 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 3: Daniel Jones. 631 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 5: And so. 632 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 3: I'm not sure I can talk you off the ledge 633 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 3: other than hey, the Colt still have the best record, 634 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 3: one of the best records in the National Football League. 635 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,760 Speaker 3: If the season ended today, the Colt be the number 636 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 3: one seed, that not one of the vision eleven years. 637 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 3: I can give you all the logical reasons to say, hey, 638 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 3: big picture things are still all right, but is that 639 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 3: a little bit more on my radar because of the 640 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 3: last couple of weeks. Absolutely, it is the part that 641 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 3: doesn't relate to Daniel or clear the race of Daniel Jones, 642 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 3: but isn't necessarily on him. Would be all right, take 643 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 3: a look at what's changed in terms of past block 644 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 3: along the offensive line and can you rectify that? Can 645 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 3: that get better? So frankly, number seventeen then have so 646 00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 3: much traffic around them. 647 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 1: I thought saus Gardner in the game against Atlanta late 648 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: Greg we saw an ability for the Colts defensively to 649 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 1: kind of get a little bit more aggressive and in 650 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 1: particular bring up a safety because they knew they had 651 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 1: the security of sauce Gardner on the line and pressing 652 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: late in the game. It seemed like he kind of 653 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 1: took a while to get in the flow. Yeah, I 654 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: know he had the slip on the two point conversion. 655 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 1: That's probably footing as much as anything. But overall, I 656 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: thought we started to see glimpse as to why Chris 657 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: Ballard thought two first rounders was still not too much 658 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: to pay for him. What did you think right? 659 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 3: And I had zero problem with that, because, again, if 660 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:43,240 Speaker 3: you get this right, those first round picks are back 661 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 3: end of first round picks, and I have always been 662 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 3: a believer of especially when the kids twenty four years 663 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 3: of age and you've got him under contractual control for 664 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,839 Speaker 3: the next four plus years. I'd made that deal too. 665 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 3: I had zero problem with giving up two first round 666 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,919 Speaker 3: picks sauce Gardner. Again, if your record is the way 667 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,359 Speaker 3: it's trending this year, and you can repeat that next year, 668 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 3: then I think you end up looking like a genius. 669 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 3: I think things for this Colts defense Jake almost kind 670 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 3: of flipped now with the absence of the Forest Buckner 671 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,399 Speaker 3: for at least the next month, where you go, all right, 672 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 3: you felt good about slowing down the run, I'm not 673 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 3: so sure about the passing game. Remarkably, that now changes 674 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 3: because you bring in Sauce Gardner, You've got the return 675 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 3: of Jalen Jones fingers crossed, you get Mooney Ward back 676 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 3: as soon as you have the next game, and now 677 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 3: it's almost like, well, you might have to show up 678 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 3: the run a little bit, but you feel pretty good 679 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 3: about the guys in terms of the defensive backfield and 680 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 3: at least slowing down to the team's passing game. And 681 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 3: I thought we saw that aggression from the Indianapolis Colts 682 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 3: defense really for the entirety of the contest. And I 683 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 3: also think now that you've got more than you know, 684 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 3: two three days to plan as to how to use Saw, 685 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 3: I think you'll see lou Ana Rumo use him a 686 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 3: little bit differently. People may not recognize that, you know, 687 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 3: by Tuesday afternoon, man, especially on a week where you're 688 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 3: traveling to Berlin, your game plans in by that point 689 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 3: in time, and you're kind of tailing around now that 690 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 3: you've got the bye weekend of a fully career for that. 691 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 3: My guess is how they play defensively might change a 692 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 3: bit more around Sauce Gardner than what we saw on Sunday. 693 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:26,959 Speaker 1: Greg, before we find out what you've got in store 694 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 1: for the next couple of days. I had mentioned this earlier, 695 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 1: and I want you to tell me if I was hallucinating. 696 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 1: I could swear that around the time that we were 697 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 1: at Grand Park and Westfield during Colts Camp that there 698 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 1: was some sort of online rumor that Alec Pierce had 699 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 1: had a date with Sidney Sweeney. Am I totally off base? 700 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 3: I remember hearing about that. Since that's not my beat, 701 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 3: I didn't further investigate. But I don't think you're completely 702 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:50,360 Speaker 3: making that up. 703 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 1: Thank you. It's not your beat. We know that. What 704 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 1: do you have planned over the next couple of days? 705 00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:57,359 Speaker 3: All right? 706 00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 5: So? 707 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 3: Literally, I just left and a town where an IndyCar 708 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 3: driver is from. I'm not far away from passing the 709 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,439 Speaker 3: site of a current IndyCar race, and I am on 710 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,399 Speaker 3: my way to a place that, according from rumors, might 711 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,320 Speaker 3: be intersted in hosting an IndyCar race again in the 712 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,360 Speaker 3: very near future. Jake, where might what road might I 713 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 3: be on right now? 714 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 4: Boy? 715 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 1: That's good. Let me ask you this. You are obviously 716 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,320 Speaker 1: not in the state of Indiana. Correct. 717 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 3: I am not in the state of Indiana. I was 718 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 3: earlier today, I'm not now. 719 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 1: My first guest would be that the Ed Carpenter was 720 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,280 Speaker 1: born in Paris, Illinois, And if you were going north, 721 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 1: you would be going past the Chicago Speedway, perhaps in Juliette. 722 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 1: That would be my guess of the path that you're going. 723 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 1: I might even remotely if we. 724 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 3: If we had this conversation last Wednesday or Thursday, you 725 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,359 Speaker 3: would have been correct. Go the opposite direction. I am 726 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 3: on my way to Cleveland, Ohio for Horizon League Soccer 727 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:57,320 Speaker 3: as we speak. 728 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 1: Okay, so you said the birthplace of one current IndyCar driver. 729 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 3: So I just left the hometown of a current IndyCar driver. 730 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:07,799 Speaker 1: That'd be Graham ray Hall. 731 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 3: Correct. And I'm about to pass a current IndyCar facility. 732 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 1: That would be mid Ohio. 733 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 3: Right, very nice. I am somewhere in the vicinity of 734 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 3: electionn Ohio as we speak. 735 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 1: And then you're on your way to you said where 736 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 1: there's rumor that they could return. 737 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 3: Well, I correct, I frankly gave away where I was going. 738 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,359 Speaker 3: I have heard talk that Burke Lakefront Airport Direct might 739 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 3: be back in the mix at some point tim for 740 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:33,799 Speaker 3: the Indy Cars correct. 741 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 1: I think that's correct, and that was a wildly popular venue. 742 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 1: By the way, if you have time, go ahead and 743 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:42,360 Speaker 1: stop in just outside of Mansfield, Ohio and go to 744 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 1: the Ohio State Reformatory, which of course is Shawshank Prison 745 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 1: and now is a museum for the movie. Despite the 746 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:49,879 Speaker 1: fact that Eddie has never seen it. 747 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 5: What. 748 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,280 Speaker 3: How is that possible? It's on like every other table 749 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 3: channel three times a week. How can you not just 750 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 3: like accidentally bump into all Shank Redemption and Rake. 751 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 1: Would you agree with me with no spoilers, because Eddie 752 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 1: and I are going to have a viewing party at 753 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 1: some point. Would you agree that it is a top 754 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 1: five movie all time? 755 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 3: The best I am from an Era? Or yes it is? 756 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,799 Speaker 3: And I Am from an era? Where top five all time? 757 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,839 Speaker 3: I'm not sure, but it's in the upper one percentile? 758 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 1: Yes? 759 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 3: How about that? Yes, I'm in an era where The 760 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 3: ultimate compliment I could give you is that that was 761 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,320 Speaker 3: a movie that would be watched on like bus road trips, 762 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 3: and I was like part of a team or doing 763 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,799 Speaker 3: radio with a team. And when that movie was on, 764 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,440 Speaker 3: like if the bus got home early, there was almost 765 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 3: or before the movie ended, there was almost a sense 766 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 3: of disappointment that the movie was not going to continue 767 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 3: to play so you could continue to watch the movie. 768 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 1: Correct. 769 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,839 Speaker 3: That's how riveting that movie was and. 770 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,760 Speaker 1: Is great movie, no question. All Right, Greg, I appreciate 771 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 1: you helping out on the vacation here and I know 772 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,320 Speaker 1: people will be looking forward to hearing from you. 773 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 3: You got a buddy, safe travels. 774 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,840 Speaker 1: I thank you Greg Ragstraw joining us on the Java 775 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,200 Speaker 1: House Peel and poor guest line. All right. As for 776 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,839 Speaker 1: the colts themselves and the bye, the schedule and how 777 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 1: it works out, that's one of the things that I 778 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,840 Speaker 1: want to talk to Joel a Erickson about. He joins 779 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:12,320 Speaker 1: us in just under ten. So we have tickets to 780 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 1: give away. Joel a Erickson coming up in just a 781 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,320 Speaker 1: couple of minutes. We have tickets away to give away. 782 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 1: We've had on the show now and I think you 783 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,960 Speaker 1: could tell his not only fun personality, but also his insides. 784 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:29,400 Speaker 1: Gutterri Steiner, who has become really a household name within 785 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,719 Speaker 1: racing circles, not that he wasn't already, but transcendently so 786 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 1: within formula one. Because of his involvement in Drive to 787 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 1: Survive the Netflix show, he has been a racing principle 788 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 1: for you know, Hoss, racing and hiring and firing drivers 789 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 1: and conversations that sometimes are not the most fun to have, 790 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,759 Speaker 1: but they lead to great stories after the fact. And 791 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:02,800 Speaker 1: he is doing his evening at clues all this is 792 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,319 Speaker 1: is it this friday or week? This Friday night? Friday night? Now, Eddie, 793 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 1: you going right? 794 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 2: Two days? Yes, that's right. 795 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 1: I want to be delter. He's gonna sit up there 796 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 1: and tell you stories and cut it up and take 797 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 1: questions and do all of it. And this is not 798 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,840 Speaker 1: you know, he has a book that kind of tells 799 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 1: also some of the behind the scenes stories. And we 800 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 1: have tickets to give away. We have two pair is 801 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:22,879 Speaker 1: that right? 802 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,240 Speaker 2: That is correct? Two pairs of tickets to give away? 803 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,839 Speaker 1: Now is it two pairs? Are two pair? It would 804 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 1: be two pairs? 805 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:28,839 Speaker 5: Right? 806 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? 807 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 1: A pair, and then multiple pairs would be two pairs, yes, right, 808 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 1: not too pay two pairs? By the way, do you 809 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 1: like pears? Never really tried them? Really? 810 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 2: Correct? 811 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never really tried a pair like you've never 812 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 1: had a pair on a salad. No, you've never had 813 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,840 Speaker 1: You've never Just like when you were a kid in school, 814 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 1: they didn't at the the hot lunch, they didn't have 815 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 1: a little cup of pears ever. 816 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 2: No, it's usually like a like a cup assortment of 817 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 2: fruit like strawberries, pizza below, grape. You like peaches, pineapple? 818 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:05,360 Speaker 2: Do you like peaches? I like pineapples. 819 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 1: I know you like peaches because you enjoyed the Java 820 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 1: House Peach tea, right yes, and you also enjoyed recently 821 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 1: the Black Team Mango Right. 822 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Black Mango tea was solid, very solid. 823 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,359 Speaker 1: You gave me a You gave me a text with 824 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,359 Speaker 1: a little thumb up emoji, which I took it as 825 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 1: your way of saying, can you please get me more 826 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 1: of the black Mango tea? 827 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 2: No, you told me that it was. That was your 828 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,359 Speaker 2: one of your favorite is great selections at Java House 829 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:32,799 Speaker 2: and used CoA JA twenty five off your order, And 830 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 2: I was like, you know what, I'll told you whenever 831 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 2: I had it, I would send a review. So I 832 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 2: sent your review as well. 833 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:39,879 Speaker 1: I will get you more of it Java house dot com. 834 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 1: By the way, Jake twenty five is the discount code 835 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,359 Speaker 1: for twenty five percent off, or you can always uh 836 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,640 Speaker 1: simply type in my name on the search bar and 837 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 1: that will take you to the bundle that includes the 838 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,920 Speaker 1: Colombian Coffee, the Liquid Science hydration Drink, and the Wrangler 839 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 1: Energy Drink. All peel and poor put it right in water, 840 00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 1: eight ounces of water and you are good to go. 841 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,359 Speaker 1: All right, So we have the gunter Steiner ticke Us 842 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 1: to give away. Eddie. We are going to give away 843 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:04,239 Speaker 1: both pair right now? Is that right? 844 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 2: That is correct? Callers number one, Oh, good question. Let's 845 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 2: just go with callers three and four. 846 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 1: Callers three and four, you're on your way. Your Friday 847 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,040 Speaker 1: night is made. You'll be at Clues Hall listening to 848 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 1: gunter Steiner and having fun. Eddie will be there as well. Also, Jake, 849 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:20,360 Speaker 1: do we have more. 850 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,960 Speaker 2: Turkey gobbles to get to later, because we do have 851 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 2: a pair of race entries to give away for the 852 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:28,600 Speaker 2: Drumstick Dash. 853 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,400 Speaker 1: Bottom of the hour, one thirty right, one thirty, we 854 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:32,920 Speaker 1: will do. You got to call in and give your 855 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 1: best turkey gobble impersonation. But Joel Erickson other side here 856 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:43,080 Speaker 1: on the fan, Oh I had the ding Schweiss. We're 857 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 1: back into it, baby, it's the German techno music of 858 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:53,520 Speaker 1: the Dying Schweiz. Listen. I'm gonna be in not Berlin 859 00:44:53,680 --> 00:45:00,880 Speaker 1: but Munich on Sunday and Monday. And I don't know 860 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:02,920 Speaker 1: if Shannon's aware of it or not, but we are 861 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 1: technoing it all night at the big club there, there's 862 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:07,880 Speaker 1: the Dying schweis Club. 863 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:09,440 Speaker 4: Is this planned? 864 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 1: To Jake, I'm telling you. I told her. She was like, 865 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 1: you know, what what should I bring? And I was like, uh, 866 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:22,239 Speaker 1: a headband for sure, because the Dying Schweiz We're going 867 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,000 Speaker 1: to be dancing the techno groove all night. So two. 868 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,400 Speaker 1: To Joela Ericson, I'm sure when he was over in Berlin, 869 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:30,560 Speaker 1: can you turn that back up again for real quick 870 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:35,200 Speaker 1: for that fella? Okay, you know this actually sounds like 871 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 1: the sound I was making of the muffler of the 872 00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,240 Speaker 1: car and we were using the Courts quarterback Colts quarterback analogy. 873 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,839 Speaker 1: Joela Ericson joins us now in the Java House, Peel 874 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:44,400 Speaker 1: and poor guest line, and I'm sure thrilled to be 875 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,319 Speaker 1: doing so. From the Indie Star, Joel, how was the 876 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,880 Speaker 1: travel over to Germany and how was the Diingschweisz Techno Club. 877 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,279 Speaker 5: I didn't. I didn't make it to the techno club, 878 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,800 Speaker 5: but we did have. When you go to the Diingschweis 879 00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,200 Speaker 5: Techno Club, you need to be on the listen out 880 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:05,120 Speaker 5: for Scooter because Scooter played live at the game between 881 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:11,400 Speaker 5: I think maybe first and second quarter, and our friend 882 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,359 Speaker 5: Scooter is a big deal because everybody was singing. 883 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:16,480 Speaker 1: Oh, this scooter right there. 884 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,719 Speaker 5: Huh, there it is. That's it, that's the one. 885 00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,840 Speaker 1: Now here's the thing, Joel. You want to know the 886 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:27,799 Speaker 1: difference between Berlin and Indianapolis. Yes, Scooter's a big deal 887 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,840 Speaker 1: in Berlin. But when I become the mayor of Indianapolis, 888 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:33,680 Speaker 1: all the scooters are going in the White River. I 889 00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 1: don't know if you knew that or not. 890 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,239 Speaker 5: Right, that's fair. I'm fine with that. 891 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 1: And then those those pedal bar folks, not the folks themselves, 892 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 1: but those pedal bars also straight to the canal. I'm 893 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:49,719 Speaker 1: just telling you what was your impression overall? We'll begin 894 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 1: with sauce Gardner. Your thoughts overall on the debut of 895 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:58,480 Speaker 1: Sauce Gardner. And while you know, I don't know if 896 00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:02,080 Speaker 1: they had to simplify things, but how much how much 897 00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,759 Speaker 1: evolution will there be? Defensively, for the Colts now that 898 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 1: he's in the mix. 899 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,480 Speaker 5: I kind of wanted them to simplify more like I 900 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,320 Speaker 5: wanted them to just stick him on Drake London and 901 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,439 Speaker 5: not let anybody else cover him. And then a couple 902 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,200 Speaker 5: of times I looked up and lo and behold, Jermaine 903 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:22,439 Speaker 5: Pratt was covering Jake London, and I thought, why why 904 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 5: would they do that? I know lou Anroumo likes to 905 00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,640 Speaker 5: do a lot of different stuff, but I would take 906 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,759 Speaker 5: the ones where the linebacker covers the a team's best 907 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,000 Speaker 5: receiver out of the slot, out of the playbook and 908 00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,680 Speaker 5: just put Gardner on them. I think with Gardner there 909 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:41,759 Speaker 5: was some I think that there was clearly some some 910 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 5: like newness, rust or however you want to put it. 911 00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,040 Speaker 5: He obviously he slipped on that key two point conversion. 912 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,000 Speaker 5: At the same time, there were a handful of players. 913 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,240 Speaker 5: I was like, Oh, that's why they got him, including 914 00:47:55,360 --> 00:48:00,279 Speaker 5: including the drops pick six, because they they kind of 915 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,840 Speaker 5: left him over there by himself. They were bringing pressure, 916 00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,799 Speaker 5: the uh they're going to bring a blitz and they 917 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:09,319 Speaker 5: had three receivers to his side, and they kind of 918 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,640 Speaker 5: just let it be him over there, which I thought 919 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,760 Speaker 5: for sure, like I remember saying in the press box, 920 00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:16,759 Speaker 5: this is going to go badly and then it turned 921 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,400 Speaker 5: into a pass breakup. So that kind of that was 922 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,319 Speaker 5: that was maybe the player. I was like, that's why 923 00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:22,319 Speaker 5: they got him right there. 924 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,239 Speaker 1: You know, Scooter is one of the Muppets. Did you 925 00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:28,240 Speaker 1: ever watch the Muppets? 926 00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,120 Speaker 5: Joe, Oh yeah, absolutely, Yeah, Scooter. 927 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,160 Speaker 1: Do you know which one Scooter is? I think Scooter 928 00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,799 Speaker 1: is very under what's that. 929 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,000 Speaker 5: He's with the glasses and the hair. 930 00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,719 Speaker 1: Well he does have hair. Yes, he's the stage hand. 931 00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,120 Speaker 1: Scooter's the guy that he's kind of the brains of 932 00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,000 Speaker 1: the whole thing, you know what I mean. I mean, 933 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,040 Speaker 1: Kerman gets all the credit, but Scooter's the guy behind 934 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 1: the scenes that really is kind of setting everybody up 935 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,800 Speaker 1: on the Muppet Show, and he's got everything going on, right, Yeah, 936 00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,200 Speaker 1: who's the Scooter of the Colts. 937 00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:00,799 Speaker 5: The behind the scenes everything up. 938 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,280 Speaker 1: Who's the guy who's the guy that doesn't get enough credit? 939 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:12,600 Speaker 5: It might be it might be Tanner Borderlini. They had 940 00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:16,200 Speaker 5: another screen in their screen this week where Borderlini, you know, 941 00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,960 Speaker 5: picked somebody off of Tyler Warren and he had big run. 942 00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,239 Speaker 5: He had a big run after the play. He makes 943 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,520 Speaker 5: so many plays in terms of getting downfield and picking 944 00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:29,440 Speaker 5: off linebackers and giving Jonathan Taylor space to do what 945 00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,640 Speaker 5: Jonathan Taylor does. I think maybe if you're looking at like, 946 00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,120 Speaker 5: who's the guy who's kind of really been the linchpin 947 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:36,759 Speaker 5: that's made this whole thing go, I think it might 948 00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:38,080 Speaker 5: be Tanner Bardalini. 949 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:42,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, BORDERLINI to me the follow me here, Joel, Okay, 950 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:47,400 Speaker 1: I listen, Brayden Smith is a free agent at the 951 00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:54,480 Speaker 1: end of the year. Correct correct. Bordolini to me symbolizes 952 00:49:54,880 --> 00:50:01,560 Speaker 1: or illustrates the lack of urgency perhaps in Braden Smith, 953 00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:03,800 Speaker 1: and follow me here. I think Braden Smith is a 954 00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:07,040 Speaker 1: wonderful player. He's been a solid guy. I mean he's 955 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,319 Speaker 1: and he's you know, you've done a great job of 956 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,080 Speaker 1: writing about the things that he came back from off 957 00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:17,440 Speaker 1: the field. But if you're not able to retain him, 958 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:23,160 Speaker 1: Bordolini does illustrate Chris Ballard's ability to in the second 959 00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,600 Speaker 1: or third round get alignment and even alignment that maybe 960 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:28,759 Speaker 1: is playing out a position of where they were in 961 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,799 Speaker 1: college and is able to grow into the position. And 962 00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:35,239 Speaker 1: thus I'm not as worried about the necessity of a 963 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,640 Speaker 1: Braiden Smith, because I do have faith in their ability 964 00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,040 Speaker 1: to find a player to put in that position and 965 00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,640 Speaker 1: go along somewhat seamlessly. Am I being too optimistic? 966 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,120 Speaker 5: No? I think that's I think that's definitely fair. I 967 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,799 Speaker 5: think the other thing that maybe people miss a little 968 00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,600 Speaker 5: bit with Braden Smith is that if Braden Smith ends 969 00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,799 Speaker 5: up playing elsewhere next year, they're not really replacing They're 970 00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,120 Speaker 5: almost certainly not replacing a right tackle. I think are 971 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,479 Speaker 5: replacing the right guard. Because to your point about guys 972 00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:07,080 Speaker 5: playing out of position, Mac Gonsalvez is a tackle. He's 973 00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,840 Speaker 5: playing guard this year, but he's a tackle by trade 974 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:12,640 Speaker 5: or when he came into the league. So if if 975 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,600 Speaker 5: Braden Smith leaves, you're replacing your right guard. I would 976 00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:19,840 Speaker 5: say of the five positions, that's probably the one you 977 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,520 Speaker 5: feel the most good about needing to find and have 978 00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,239 Speaker 5: somebody plug him play there. So yes, I agree with you. 979 00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:29,080 Speaker 5: I think, uh, you know, with Braden Smith, obviously, you know, 980 00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:34,680 Speaker 5: maybe maybe Smith decides, you know, I'm more comfortable here. 981 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,840 Speaker 5: This is this is the team that supported me. Uh, 982 00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:41,719 Speaker 5: and he's he's willing to give more of a deal 983 00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:43,920 Speaker 5: than he should. But if he doesn't, I do think 984 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,319 Speaker 5: you're set up nicely, because I think most people are 985 00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,000 Speaker 5: kind of looking at it as like, well Ken Jalen 986 00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,560 Speaker 5: Travis play. I don't think that's the real question. I 987 00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,759 Speaker 5: think the real question is who's the right who's the 988 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,240 Speaker 5: right guard? Because I think Macnzalveez is your right tackle. 989 00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:59,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, and again they very very possible that the replacements 990 00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:02,200 Speaker 1: are on staff right, are already on the roster. I mean, 991 00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:06,240 Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. There your level Jola ericson Indie 992 00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,520 Speaker 1: Stour our guest Java House Peeling pro guest line, your 993 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:15,160 Speaker 1: level of concern about some of the ghosts of Christmas 994 00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:19,160 Speaker 1: past and Daniel Jones starting to rear their ugly head 995 00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:20,360 Speaker 1: in terms of the turnovers. 996 00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:26,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, the fumbles, the fumbles. The one that they lost 997 00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,879 Speaker 5: was was really the the egregious one, and it did 998 00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,080 Speaker 5: make me kind of sit up and go, you know, 999 00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,720 Speaker 5: wait a minute, this is this is the Daniel Jones 1000 00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,040 Speaker 5: that we're not supposed to be seeing. You know. It's 1001 00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,439 Speaker 5: it can still be an effective passing game. We saw 1002 00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,360 Speaker 5: that at times with the touchdown pass, the fears and 1003 00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,399 Speaker 5: some of the players to Warren in the last couple 1004 00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,120 Speaker 5: of drives. But if he's not protecting the football and 1005 00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:54,880 Speaker 5: you have to overcome those mistakes, those sex consistently. You're 1006 00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:58,680 Speaker 5: you're not the same offense that we uh that was, 1007 00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:02,360 Speaker 5: that's averaging three point two points possession points per possession 1008 00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,000 Speaker 5: or whatever it is, and and you're you're going to 1009 00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,520 Speaker 5: have to figure some stuff out down there down the stretch. 1010 00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,200 Speaker 5: So I think as they go into the by, that's 1011 00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,239 Speaker 5: that's probably got to be the number one question for 1012 00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,880 Speaker 5: Shane stike In is what what's gone on the last 1013 00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:16,920 Speaker 5: two weeks that we've got to get rid of and 1014 00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:18,880 Speaker 5: get Jones back to being who he was the first 1015 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,400 Speaker 5: eight weeks, because right now he looks not not like 1016 00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:23,880 Speaker 5: I still like. I still don't think he looks like 1017 00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:28,120 Speaker 5: the Giants version, but those those turnovers are closer to it, 1018 00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,759 Speaker 5: and the Sacks are closer to the Giants version than 1019 00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:31,960 Speaker 5: the Colts would be comfortable with. 1020 00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,520 Speaker 1: Joel, I've got a Muppets question that I'm going to 1021 00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:39,120 Speaker 1: judge you on your answer. Okay, okay, i' and if 1022 00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,359 Speaker 1: I've asked you this one before, humor me, because I've 1023 00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,240 Speaker 1: asked this to several people. It's kind of a character question. 1024 00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,719 Speaker 1: You can learn a lot about a person. Uh So 1025 00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,680 Speaker 1: you are familiar with the Muppets, right, obviously you've seen 1026 00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:54,920 Speaker 1: the Muppet Show, you've seen the Muppet movie, et cetera. Correct, Yes, yes, yes, 1027 00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,960 Speaker 1: if something were to and by no means, by no 1028 00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,480 Speaker 1: means are we asked for this or hoping for this 1029 00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,200 Speaker 1: to happen. Strictly work with me hypothetically speaking, and if 1030 00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,160 Speaker 1: kids are in the car, they need to know this 1031 00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:10,720 Speaker 1: is all hypothetical. If something, we can agree that Kermit 1032 00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,920 Speaker 1: is the president of the Muppets. Correct, he's the lead ruppet, 1033 00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:18,440 Speaker 1: He's the guy, right, Yes, Okay, if something were to 1034 00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:24,480 Speaker 1: happen to Kermit, Okay, who then takes over the mantle? 1035 00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,640 Speaker 1: Who is the next end line? Who is the era 1036 00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:30,240 Speaker 1: parent as the president of the Muppets. 1037 00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:34,840 Speaker 5: Oh, that's a great question. 1038 00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:41,680 Speaker 1: I personally believe there to be irrefutably a slam dunk 1039 00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:42,640 Speaker 1: number one answer. 1040 00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:49,000 Speaker 5: It can't be Fazzy. He's not serious enough. Can't be 1041 00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:54,280 Speaker 5: gone though, because that's not what he does, is it, Scooter? 1042 00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:56,280 Speaker 1: It's Fozzy? 1043 00:54:58,239 --> 00:54:58,479 Speaker 3: Really? 1044 00:54:58,560 --> 00:54:59,799 Speaker 5: You think Fozzy can handle that? 1045 00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,759 Speaker 1: It's not about listen, I mean, are we really going 1046 00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:07,440 Speaker 1: with like you know, I mean, do we think that? 1047 00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,759 Speaker 1: Are we just assuming that? You know, Gerald Ford was 1048 00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:11,240 Speaker 1: ready for the role here, right. 1049 00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:11,239 Speaker 4: I. 1050 00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,560 Speaker 1: Mean what I'm getting at you wa wuck luck? Yeah. Sure, 1051 00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,279 Speaker 1: I mean he's kind of a stooge and he's got that, 1052 00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,120 Speaker 1: but the hat is cool and he wears the tie 1053 00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:23,000 Speaker 1: and he's goofy, but he's the guy. Like when when 1054 00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,720 Speaker 1: Kermit sets off to go to La to pursue his dream, 1055 00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,319 Speaker 1: it is Fozzy that it takes him there, and the 1056 00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,439 Speaker 1: student Baker that belongs to his uncle, and that's that's 1057 00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,480 Speaker 1: his right hand man. Like, whether you like it or not, 1058 00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,120 Speaker 1: that is his right hand man, right, I mean we 1059 00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:40,840 Speaker 1: had you know, dan Quail was was a vice president. 1060 00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:44,160 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I mean, Fozzy can be 1061 00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,399 Speaker 1: that guy, you know, I mean Kamala Harris, you can 1062 00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:48,440 Speaker 1: get There are a million people that you can say, like, 1063 00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,240 Speaker 1: we're you know whatever, Right, I mean, Fazzy's the guy, right. 1064 00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,160 Speaker 5: Fazi could Fazi could play a good Bob cratch It 1065 00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:56,520 Speaker 5: now I think about it. He could do Bob Cratchit 1066 00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,520 Speaker 5: for us. You know, you're right, You're right, he can 1067 00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:01,000 Speaker 5: play the car. I might be underestimating. 1068 00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,080 Speaker 1: Now some people say Gonzo, and I don't think you 1069 00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,400 Speaker 1: can say Gonzo because he's got multiple affairs going on. 1070 00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,920 Speaker 1: With chickens, like, you know what I mean, there's a 1071 00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:08,960 Speaker 1: lot going on with Gonzo. 1072 00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:12,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, the headlines on Gonzo, if he takes over the mother. 1073 00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:15,839 Speaker 1: The press would kill him. They'd kill him, is what 1074 00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:20,480 Speaker 1: they'd do. Joel, quite frankly, Joel a Ericson is our guest, Joe. 1075 00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,640 Speaker 1: What is the schedule for the Colts during a bye week? 1076 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,880 Speaker 1: I mean, just in terms of what four our listeners 1077 00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,439 Speaker 1: that don't know and are not around it a lot. 1078 00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:32,360 Speaker 1: What is a given week for the Colts in terms 1079 00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:35,000 Speaker 1: of their schedule of events leading up to a game? 1080 00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:36,480 Speaker 1: And how is it different during the. 1081 00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:40,960 Speaker 5: Bye Yeah, you know, during during the regular during a 1082 00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:44,480 Speaker 5: regular week, they're they're in on Monday to you know, 1083 00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:48,840 Speaker 5: watch film in the previous game. Uh, and and do 1084 00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,120 Speaker 5: treatment get get a little bit started on the next game, 1085 00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,160 Speaker 5: and mostly do they work on the previous game. And 1086 00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:57,240 Speaker 5: then they're off Tuesday. Then they practice Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, 1087 00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,279 Speaker 5: they walk through on Saturday, and then they play a 1088 00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:03,960 Speaker 5: game during the bye week. Seame Psiken just says, go 1089 00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,080 Speaker 5: and leave and get some rest and come back ready 1090 00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:09,759 Speaker 5: for the second half. Is my understanding is that they 1091 00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,640 Speaker 5: aren't really doing much of anything, you know, there might 1092 00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:13,840 Speaker 5: be some players who have rehab. 1093 00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:14,480 Speaker 1: There might be some. 1094 00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:18,400 Speaker 5: Players, like I know, soft Gardner said that what he 1095 00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:20,160 Speaker 5: has to do is he has to get his clothing here, 1096 00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,200 Speaker 5: because he said ninety nine percent of his stuff was 1097 00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,240 Speaker 5: in New Jersey still, so he had to get that 1098 00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,480 Speaker 5: done and probably learn the defense and stuff like that. 1099 00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,280 Speaker 5: But for the most part, this bye week is going 1100 00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:36,080 Speaker 5: is a chance for the Colts to just do something else, rest, relax, 1101 00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:37,800 Speaker 5: get better for the second half. 1102 00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,120 Speaker 1: By the way, so I don't know, I can't speak 1103 00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,280 Speaker 1: for soft Gardner. There are those places where you don't 1104 00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:46,240 Speaker 1: necessarily need clothing. It's optional. For example, the din Sweiz, right, 1105 00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:48,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if you know that or not. Joel, 1106 00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:51,320 Speaker 1: you could have you could have found that out in 1107 00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,280 Speaker 1: Berlin if you'd gone out and just hit yourself to 1108 00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:54,760 Speaker 1: the Dineschwiz Club. Right. 1109 00:57:56,720 --> 00:58:00,320 Speaker 5: I didn't. I was trying to. I tried to walk 1110 00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,000 Speaker 5: all of Berlin in like one day, and by the 1111 00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:06,160 Speaker 5: time we got to dinner, I was like, I was like, Okay, 1112 00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,840 Speaker 5: that's that's good, but I need to The dinner's great, 1113 00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,160 Speaker 5: but I need to go home and and get some 1114 00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,120 Speaker 5: sleep because I think it was like thirty two thousand 1115 00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,760 Speaker 5: steps or something like. You know what, on the day off. 1116 00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:18,200 Speaker 1: This is my understanding. If you try to walk Berlin 1117 00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,640 Speaker 1: too much, you can walk really far, but eventually you 1118 00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:25,160 Speaker 1: get stopped. You know why. I just I mean, you 1119 00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:30,560 Speaker 1: just hit a wall. Thanks, thank you. I appreciate that 1120 00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:33,160 Speaker 1: grant that joke hasn't been as in vogue since nineteen 1121 00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,920 Speaker 1: eighty nine, but nonetheless hilarity for those of us that 1122 00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:37,120 Speaker 1: are old enough to remember. 1123 00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,080 Speaker 5: Well, it's still it's still all kind of all over 1124 00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:42,320 Speaker 5: the city. I think we realized, like the second or 1125 00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:44,840 Speaker 5: third day with the guys who were there from the Beat, 1126 00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,040 Speaker 5: were like, you know, have you been to the Berlin Wall? 1127 00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,720 Speaker 5: And we all we all had, and we all realized 1128 00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:52,720 Speaker 5: that we've been to three different sections that are still up. 1129 00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,280 Speaker 1: In all honesty, Joel, kidding aside, because it is fascinating, 1130 00:58:57,960 --> 00:58:59,720 Speaker 1: you know, and I can remember when the Berlin Wall 1131 00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,440 Speaker 1: came down and you could buy like pieces of the wall, 1132 00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:07,160 Speaker 1: the aspects or the portions of it that are still standing. 1133 00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:10,280 Speaker 1: You know, how big an areas or how big of 1134 00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:12,240 Speaker 1: areas or how big of a wall are we talking? 1135 00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:19,920 Speaker 5: It's it's it's not very long, like probably like the 1136 00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,400 Speaker 5: one that I went to the Berlin Wall Memorial. It 1137 00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,840 Speaker 5: was about a block or so of wall, you know, 1138 00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:29,600 Speaker 5: a city block or maybe two of wall, and then 1139 00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:35,560 Speaker 5: there were a lot of the I guess metal piping 1140 00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:39,000 Speaker 5: that the concrete set on is still up in that 1141 00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:42,800 Speaker 5: part of it. I think the one down by Stephen 1142 00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,439 Speaker 5: Holder's Hotel might have been longer, but it's not. It's 1143 00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:48,760 Speaker 5: not like a super huge piece of the wall. And 1144 00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:51,880 Speaker 5: then the other thing that they have is like in 1145 00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,080 Speaker 5: some of those spots, if you look across the road, 1146 00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:59,440 Speaker 5: there's like a a marker or or you know, a 1147 00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:01,439 Speaker 5: piece of the road that shows you where the wall 1148 01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:06,600 Speaker 5: used to be in the uh in the road too, 1149 01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:08,480 Speaker 5: so you got that. But for the most part it's 1150 01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:10,360 Speaker 5: it's kind of like smaller section and. 1151 01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:13,520 Speaker 1: It has been you know, thirty six years now, Joel. So, 1152 01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:16,560 Speaker 1: but I'm curious, is there any way, shape or form 1153 01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:21,480 Speaker 1: architecturally speaking, that you can tell the difference between East 1154 01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:24,640 Speaker 1: Berlin and West Berlin. I couldn't. 1155 01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,360 Speaker 5: I couldn't because there at one point Chris Woodlock looked 1156 01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:29,840 Speaker 5: at me and said, we are in East Berlin right now, 1157 01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:32,320 Speaker 5: and we were in West Berlin earlier, and I had 1158 01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:36,480 Speaker 5: not processed that even a little bit, so yeah, I 1159 01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:37,080 Speaker 5: couldn't tell. 1160 01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:39,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, It's fascinating though, because it was just such a 1161 01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,080 Speaker 1: you know, I remember when when Uve Block played for 1162 01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:43,880 Speaker 1: Indiana and they would introduce them in the pregames and 1163 01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:46,080 Speaker 1: they would say, you know, from Munich, West Germany because 1164 01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:48,080 Speaker 1: that was still you know, it was still a thing, right, 1165 01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:49,880 Speaker 1: I mean, the west and the east side of it. 1166 01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:53,200 Speaker 1: Joel Erickson is our guest on the Java House Peel 1167 01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:55,520 Speaker 1: and Port guest line Colts on the bye week getting 1168 01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:59,520 Speaker 1: set now for Kansas City once they come back from that, Joel, 1169 01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:03,600 Speaker 1: the reality is the schedule does toughen up for them, 1170 01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:07,760 Speaker 1: but they have a pretty strong hold on the division 1171 01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:12,200 Speaker 1: itself and will have obviously ample opportunity to you know, 1172 01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:15,440 Speaker 1: put that away because they have both Tennessee or excuse me, 1173 01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:18,480 Speaker 1: both Jacksonville and Houston twice coming back from it. But 1174 01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:21,840 Speaker 1: what area aside from the Daniel Jones area. If you 1175 01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:24,880 Speaker 1: are Shane Steichen, what is the thing during the bye 1176 01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,680 Speaker 1: week that is keeping you awake that you feel is 1177 01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:31,760 Speaker 1: the one thing that can be in Achilles for this team? 1178 01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:35,960 Speaker 5: Oh the pass rush, especially with Buckner out with you know, 1179 01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,600 Speaker 5: they get they had three secs I think on Sunday, 1180 01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:41,080 Speaker 5: and all three of them were by guys who don't 1181 01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:43,880 Speaker 5: typically rush the passer. They had to call blitzes on 1182 01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:45,440 Speaker 5: all of them. It was buying him, it was Cross, 1183 01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:49,360 Speaker 5: it was it was Franklin without Buckner. I just you 1184 01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:52,600 Speaker 5: don't have a guy right now that you can rely 1185 01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:57,680 Speaker 5: on to get pressure or draw attention or do whatever 1186 01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,600 Speaker 5: he has to do. Lassu leads the tea even sex 1187 01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:03,920 Speaker 5: he's got five. We've seen flashes. The Rams game was 1188 01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:06,680 Speaker 5: really good, the Steelers game was really good. But in 1189 01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:10,240 Speaker 5: terms of him being a game in, game out, game wrecker, 1190 01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:13,520 Speaker 5: you just have we just haven't seen that from him yet. 1191 01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:16,200 Speaker 5: So especially with some of these quarterbacks that are coming 1192 01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:18,960 Speaker 5: up and passing games that are coming up on the schedule, 1193 01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,520 Speaker 5: I think that's the biggest thing that makes me nervous 1194 01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:24,200 Speaker 5: is we've got these corners. I would expect to see 1195 01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:27,640 Speaker 5: Mooney Ward back soon, because we saw him before we 1196 01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:30,880 Speaker 5: left for Berlin on the practice field working out with trainers. 1197 01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:32,320 Speaker 5: So I would guess that he's probably going to be 1198 01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:34,760 Speaker 5: back not too long if he might be back for 1199 01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:36,880 Speaker 5: the Chiefs game, and if not, then not too long 1200 01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:39,880 Speaker 5: after that. So you feel good about the corners but 1201 01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:43,440 Speaker 5: you know, if they can't rush the passer against some 1202 01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:47,280 Speaker 5: of these guys coming up, you could find yourself in 1203 01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:49,120 Speaker 5: a lot of these games where it's a shootout and 1204 01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:52,080 Speaker 5: you're going back and forth, and then it magnifies everything. 1205 01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:55,480 Speaker 5: If your defense is playing better on Sunday, then yes, 1206 01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:59,480 Speaker 5: you still feel worried about Daniel Jones, but you had 1207 01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:01,800 Speaker 5: five hundred nineteen yards to total offense, and you scored 1208 01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:05,160 Speaker 5: points and you probably win, you know, twenty four to 1209 01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:08,480 Speaker 5: seventeen or something like that. They just they got to 1210 01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,640 Speaker 5: have more of a pass rush. I all think on 1211 01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:13,080 Speaker 5: Sunday that they kind of got away with some stuff 1212 01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:16,280 Speaker 5: because Michael Pennick's some bouts of inaccuracy that just don't 1213 01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:16,880 Speaker 5: make any sense. 1214 01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:20,760 Speaker 2: Joel Matt Bowen and Jeremy Fowler of ESPN today released 1215 01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,520 Speaker 2: their way too early Top twenty five free agents at 1216 01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:26,360 Speaker 2: the twenty twenty six class. You and Jake have already 1217 01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,440 Speaker 2: kind of talked about Alex Pearce, and I was reading 1218 01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:31,480 Speaker 2: into this a little bit, and Jeremy Fowler reporting that 1219 01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:34,680 Speaker 2: the threshold that people that he's talked to is twenty 1220 01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:37,840 Speaker 2: million per year doesn't seem out of the question for him, 1221 01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:39,920 Speaker 2: and I read that, and I'm like, that still seems 1222 01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:43,120 Speaker 2: like a bargain considering the fact of what Alex Pierce 1223 01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:45,480 Speaker 2: has displayed at no longer just being the guy that 1224 01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:48,080 Speaker 2: you just chucked the ball, you know, thirty forty yards 1225 01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:48,680 Speaker 2: downfield to. 1226 01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:51,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he's gonna cost more than that. I 1227 01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:52,480 Speaker 5: don't think that. 1228 01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:54,000 Speaker 1: I saw that. 1229 01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:56,360 Speaker 5: I saw the same thing you saw, and saw that 1230 01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:59,240 Speaker 5: twenty million figure. Thought, are we sure that that's the 1231 01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:01,760 Speaker 5: you know where he should be talking about? 1232 01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:01,840 Speaker 4: That? 1233 01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:05,400 Speaker 5: It's a possible ceiling for him because salaries have risen 1234 01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:06,520 Speaker 5: all over the place. 1235 01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:06,880 Speaker 6: And. 1236 01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,120 Speaker 5: There's still an outside chance that he ends up with 1237 01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:14,200 Speaker 5: a thousand yards this year. I just think that the 1238 01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:16,800 Speaker 5: way people pay receivers in free agency, I think he's 1239 01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:21,560 Speaker 5: gonna cost quite a bit. And I also think the 1240 01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:24,920 Speaker 5: Colts need to resign him. I just do. He just 1241 01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:27,840 Speaker 5: gives you something that is so valuable in this league 1242 01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:30,840 Speaker 5: where I mean, how many receivers in the league. There's 1243 01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:32,320 Speaker 5: a lot of receivers in this league that you know 1244 01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:35,560 Speaker 5: are going deep, But how many receivers in this league 1245 01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:37,360 Speaker 5: not only do you know are going deep and everybody 1246 01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:39,280 Speaker 5: in the stadiums are getting deep, but they still do 1247 01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:43,440 Speaker 5: it for a catch like once a game. It's so valuable. 1248 01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,600 Speaker 5: And then, like you said, he's doing the other stuff 1249 01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:48,440 Speaker 5: on top of it and being becoming more of a 1250 01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:51,760 Speaker 5: complete receiver for this team. I think they kind of 1251 01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:53,320 Speaker 5: have to resign him, and I think it's going to 1252 01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:54,680 Speaker 5: cost more than people realize. 1253 01:04:55,200 --> 01:05:01,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, he has become their most versatile receiver. Would 1254 01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:02,480 Speaker 1: you agree with that? 1255 01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:07,360 Speaker 5: Oh? Totally, yep. He's the guy like what's the it 1256 01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:08,800 Speaker 5: used to be that you go, well, you know, he 1257 01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:11,640 Speaker 5: doesn't run the drag route, he doesn't run some of 1258 01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:14,919 Speaker 5: the shorter stuff, but they're doing that stuff within this year. 1259 01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:19,920 Speaker 5: And his downfield speed is something. His downfield speed is 1260 01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:22,880 Speaker 5: just something that that that Michael Pittman and Josh Downs 1261 01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:25,360 Speaker 5: can't replicate. They just they just aren't the same type 1262 01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:27,840 Speaker 5: of deep threat. But I really think nobody is. I 1263 01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:30,320 Speaker 5: don't think there's very many people in the league that 1264 01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:32,160 Speaker 5: are as consistent a deep threat as he is. 1265 01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:35,320 Speaker 1: Hey, Jake, and what world does Miss Piggy not take 1266 01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:37,880 Speaker 1: the over the Muppets If Kermit has gone, she's in more. 1267 01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:42,680 Speaker 5: You can't Also, Also, if you put Miss Piggy in 1268 01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:46,040 Speaker 5: charge of the Muppets, she's like she's a tyrant. The 1269 01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:51,280 Speaker 5: Muppets implode because she's like she can't he can't handle herself. 1270 01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:52,040 Speaker 5: She'll lose it. 1271 01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:53,640 Speaker 4: Wow. 1272 01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:57,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's a I don't know, I mean that's 1273 01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:01,440 Speaker 1: probably true. Yeah, but you know, she's the like you 1274 01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:07,040 Speaker 1: have to have an immediate succession plan, and she's going 1275 01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:10,560 Speaker 1: to be in heavy mourning if if something happens, and 1276 01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:13,000 Speaker 1: let's be real, if something happens to Kermit, we don't 1277 01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:16,200 Speaker 1: know for certain, Miss Piggy's not involved, right, you know 1278 01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:16,520 Speaker 1: what I. 1279 01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:18,680 Speaker 5: Mean, that's that's fair. 1280 01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:21,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we're we're not We're not certain 1281 01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:22,200 Speaker 1: on this, right. 1282 01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:25,200 Speaker 5: Mis Piggy has been known to fly off the handle. 1283 01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:28,800 Speaker 5: It's just like it's that's a very consistent piece of 1284 01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:31,600 Speaker 5: the character is that she she tends to fly off 1285 01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:32,040 Speaker 5: the handle. 1286 01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:35,000 Speaker 1: You know. I like that. Who's the the musician guy 1287 01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:36,520 Speaker 1: with the gold tooth. He's pretty cool. 1288 01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:39,120 Speaker 5: Oh what's his name. 1289 01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:41,960 Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's a cabinet member, but he's pretty cool. Right, 1290 01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:42,760 Speaker 1: and then he's. 1291 01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:45,200 Speaker 5: Got great Yeah, and he's got to he's got to 1292 01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:47,600 Speaker 5: keep Animal in check for the for the sets and stuff. 1293 01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:50,040 Speaker 5: He's got the abilities. 1294 01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:52,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, Animal, there's a lot going on there too, right, 1295 01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:59,840 Speaker 1: Animal travel internationally. Animal likes to go to Colorado and Washington. 1296 01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:03,160 Speaker 1: Just so you know, right, they're talking about me. Lots 1297 01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:07,439 Speaker 1: of gigs in Michigan for Animal Right, amongst other things. Joel, 1298 01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:09,440 Speaker 1: what are you gonna do during the bye week here? 1299 01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:13,760 Speaker 1: Anything fun? I? 1300 01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:12,120 Speaker 4: Uh? 1301 01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:15,680 Speaker 5: I think my wife has a bunch of things that 1302 01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:17,560 Speaker 5: I haven't done during the season that I need to do. 1303 01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:20,440 Speaker 5: I think that's I think that's why I'm supposed to 1304 01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:21,240 Speaker 5: do well. 1305 01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:26,040 Speaker 1: This makes you kermit? Okay? Cool? All right, Joe, We 1306 01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:30,680 Speaker 1: appreciate the time as always. Okay, Joel Erickson, who mercifully 1307 01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:34,200 Speaker 1: joins the program from the Indianapolis Star Java House, Peel 1308 01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:36,640 Speaker 1: and poor guest line Eddie. Did you watch them up 1309 01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:37,439 Speaker 1: as much as a kid? 1310 01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:37,680 Speaker 5: Not? 1311 01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:41,439 Speaker 1: Really? That? Can you picture that? Is a great song? 1312 01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:41,800 Speaker 5: That? 1313 01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:44,760 Speaker 1: That's from the guy with the gold tooth? I forget 1314 01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:46,280 Speaker 1: his name, though, what'd you say? 1315 01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:46,680 Speaker 2: It's called? 1316 01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:52,840 Speaker 1: Listen? Can you picture that? Can you find that? Maybe 1317 01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:56,400 Speaker 1: we can play? Can you picture that while people do 1318 01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:59,880 Speaker 1: their turkey impersonation? Right? Because we're gonna give away to 1319 01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:02,000 Speaker 1: get to the drumstick dash next? Is that right? Entries 1320 01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:04,800 Speaker 1: to the drum sound dash to me Ja drumstick dash 1321 01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:07,200 Speaker 1: coming up Thanksgiving morning. This is in broad a pool. 1322 01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:09,720 Speaker 1: It is moving your feet so others can eat. That's 1323 01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:12,919 Speaker 1: a fundraiser, of course for Wheeler mission, but we do 1324 01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:16,680 Speaker 1: have and it's a great It is a great civic celebration. 1325 01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:18,080 Speaker 1: You don't need to run the whole thing. A lot 1326 01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:20,400 Speaker 1: of people walk it, people dress up like turkeys, They 1327 01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:24,160 Speaker 1: have fun with it in groups. It's a celebration of 1328 01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:26,240 Speaker 1: this great city and we would love to have you there. 1329 01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:28,680 Speaker 1: It begins at nine o'clock in the morning on Thanksgiving 1330 01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:31,320 Speaker 1: Day right along brought up Lave and it basically get 1331 01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:33,920 Speaker 1: there about eight fifteen eight thirty something like that, and 1332 01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:35,840 Speaker 1: you can do one of the two different courses that 1333 01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:38,800 Speaker 1: they have, and we have entrance to give away. But 1334 01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:42,800 Speaker 1: you've got a match yesterday. Who was it yesterday that 1335 01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:44,519 Speaker 1: did the unbelievable turkey call? 1336 01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:45,400 Speaker 2: Is that James? 1337 01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:47,920 Speaker 1: I think it was James. Yes, James was unbelievable, and 1338 01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:50,120 Speaker 1: he gave me permission to reuse that from time to 1339 01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:52,639 Speaker 1: time if need be. But if you would like to go, 1340 01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:54,519 Speaker 1: you've got to call in. You've got to do your 1341 01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:57,240 Speaker 1: turkey call and we will get you on your way. 1342 01:08:57,280 --> 01:09:01,960 Speaker 1: We'll do it on the other side. Oh baby, doctor 1343 01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:08,320 Speaker 1: teeth and the electric Mayhem. Now this is a jam right, 1344 01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:12,759 Speaker 1: here's what this is, Eddie. Like, I know in Germany 1345 01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:15,680 Speaker 1: they like the Dying Schweis, but but I think this 1346 01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:21,680 Speaker 1: might actually be superior to it. Gotta love the Muppets. 1347 01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:23,840 Speaker 1: We have an entry to give away. You said we 1348 01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:26,840 Speaker 1: have one, right, Eddie, Yes, we have a pair. So 1349 01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:28,400 Speaker 1: it'd be you and somebody else that. 1350 01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:32,639 Speaker 2: You comet child friend, gotcha significant other. 1351 01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:36,000 Speaker 1: Now, yesterday we did this and it was your idea 1352 01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:42,759 Speaker 1: to have someone call in and do their best turkey impersonation, right. 1353 01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:45,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, their best turkey, their best turkey. 1354 01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:51,120 Speaker 1: Gobble Now James was the winner that did exactly that. Correct, 1355 01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:59,559 Speaker 1: that second one there is, James. That's all you've got 1356 01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:01,120 Speaker 1: to do if you want to get into the drumstick 1357 01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:04,440 Speaker 1: dash two three nine ten seventy right now call her number, what, Eddie. 1358 01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:06,320 Speaker 2: Well, we have one spot to give away. If we 1359 01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:08,320 Speaker 2: get multiple callers, we're gonna have to have a gobble off. 1360 01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:13,200 Speaker 1: That's not bad. Three people on the gobble off you 1361 01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:15,840 Speaker 1: think of two three nine ten seventy, Is that it? 1362 01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:19,280 Speaker 1: Three people get into an argument over turkeys? Three people 1363 01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:21,360 Speaker 1: given there, and then we've got a vote between the 1364 01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:23,800 Speaker 1: two of us. What if we tie, what if we both? 1365 01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:26,400 Speaker 1: What if I think one and you think the other? 1366 01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:29,599 Speaker 2: That's a great a great point vote, Jake. We can't 1367 01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:30,800 Speaker 2: do it if we don't have people call in. 1368 01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:32,839 Speaker 1: I know two three, nine, ten seventy is a telephone 1369 01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:36,280 Speaker 1: number meantime we can talk about and we're doing this 1370 01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:38,400 Speaker 1: so that we don't have to talk about last night 1371 01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:41,679 Speaker 1: the Pacers performance in Salt Lake taking on the Jazz 1372 01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:45,880 Speaker 1: and that is one of them, Eddie, that look, I 1373 01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:47,840 Speaker 1: get it. You know, they were going with those uniforms, 1374 01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:49,960 Speaker 1: which are cool. They went kind of with the wet 1375 01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:55,160 Speaker 1: retro look, which was cool, but that was a retro 1376 01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:59,479 Speaker 1: putrid Pacer performance for certain And yes, TJ Mcconaughell's back 1377 01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:03,799 Speaker 1: had twelve and there were things to be optimistic about, 1378 01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:07,240 Speaker 1: but it is difficult to assess exactly who and what 1379 01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:12,360 Speaker 1: they are just based on it feels like and I 1380 01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:15,120 Speaker 1: get it, I mean it does feel to an extent 1381 01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:19,000 Speaker 1: like from a fan base standpoint, a media standpoint there, 1382 01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:20,479 Speaker 1: I'm not going to say that people have thrown in 1383 01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:24,759 Speaker 1: the towel on the Pacers, but you are saying to yourself, well, 1384 01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:27,880 Speaker 1: you know, wake me up when everybody's here, wake me 1385 01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:31,920 Speaker 1: up before you go go type thing. And yet you 1386 01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:35,000 Speaker 1: still want to see effort. And I don't know if 1387 01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:39,000 Speaker 1: they were, if it's just that they're worn down, if 1388 01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:42,400 Speaker 1: they are themselves frustrated because they're like, man, what are 1389 01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:46,479 Speaker 1: we doing here? But that was that was not a 1390 01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:51,680 Speaker 1: good performance. Yes they're getting significant minutes, say for a 1391 01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:54,720 Speaker 1: Jaris Walker, but yet he was inconsistent. I thought last night, 1392 01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:56,760 Speaker 1: I mean, they're just there wasn't anything. Really you take 1393 01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:58,400 Speaker 1: away from that and go, hey, let's talk about this. 1394 01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:02,840 Speaker 1: I mean where they are now. And I know that 1395 01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:07,640 Speaker 1: they are still only you know, twelve percent of the 1396 01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:10,040 Speaker 1: way through the season, but you start looking at draft 1397 01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:14,840 Speaker 1: pick and wondering where you go from here. But again, 1398 01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:17,040 Speaker 1: we knew this year was going to be tough anyway. 1399 01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:18,599 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody thought it was going to be 1400 01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:20,240 Speaker 1: this bad. In terms of the injury. I'd love to 1401 01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:22,240 Speaker 1: see they need to get Johnny furfeedback out on the 1402 01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:24,080 Speaker 1: floor because I want to see him. He's another one 1403 01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:25,679 Speaker 1: that I want to see minutes they can get right. 1404 01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:28,920 Speaker 2: So Jacob. Executive producer Todd Meyer has texted this that 1405 01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:32,200 Speaker 2: he could be the tiebreaker if we tie. Okay, but 1406 01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:35,519 Speaker 2: James also called in and said that he would text 1407 01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:37,799 Speaker 2: you in the event of a tie. 1408 01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:41,320 Speaker 1: That's not bad. Nothing against Todd, but I do kind 1409 01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:47,080 Speaker 1: of like having James as clearly the reigning champion also 1410 01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:50,160 Speaker 1: being able to vote in here. Okay, so we're doing 1411 01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:52,439 Speaker 1: the gobble off, as you call it. We will begin 1412 01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:55,400 Speaker 1: with who do we go with first? Here we'll go 1413 01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:58,240 Speaker 1: in order from top to bottom. We'll start with Keith. 1414 01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:02,680 Speaker 1: All right, how are you doing great? How are you 1415 01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:04,880 Speaker 1: guys doing doing fine? Have you called the show before? 1416 01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:05,200 Speaker 6: Keith? 1417 01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:07,439 Speaker 3: I have not? First time? 1418 01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:10,400 Speaker 1: Oh really? Okay, Well, we appreciate you listening to the show. 1419 01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:13,000 Speaker 1: How long have you been a listener of the program? 1420 01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:19,519 Speaker 5: Uh? I was listening to you back the little fella 1421 01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:20,519 Speaker 5: I've been I've been listening. 1422 01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:22,679 Speaker 2: I don't listening pretty much for me in the morning, 1423 01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:24,240 Speaker 2: but I can do I can listen to him better 1424 01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:24,839 Speaker 2: in the afternoon. 1425 01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:26,320 Speaker 3: So it's been a couple of years. 1426 01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:28,400 Speaker 1: Okay. And Keith, what line of work are you in? 1427 01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:30,719 Speaker 6: I'm in sales. 1428 01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:33,040 Speaker 5: I work for Hegan air Conditioning Company. 1429 01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:36,200 Speaker 1: Okay, outstanding? All right, Well, Keith, do you want to 1430 01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:45,360 Speaker 1: give us your best gobble if you could, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, okay, 1431 01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:47,920 Speaker 1: go ahead, no reference, okay, all right, go ahead, just. 1432 01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:54,520 Speaker 6: Go for it? 1433 01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:57,360 Speaker 1: Is okay? All right, Keith, I'm gonna lock that in. Wrong, 1434 01:13:57,520 --> 01:13:59,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna just get no. Uh, I'll just 1435 01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:01,880 Speaker 1: give my go all right. Justin is up next? A 1436 01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:03,840 Speaker 1: bit of an advantage for Justin because he knows what 1437 01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:08,720 Speaker 1: he's up against here, Justin? How are you good now? Justin? 1438 01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:10,720 Speaker 1: Did you just wake up just out of curiosity? 1439 01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:11,800 Speaker 4: Oh? 1440 01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:12,280 Speaker 5: Why? 1441 01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:12,799 Speaker 4: Okay? 1442 01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:15,639 Speaker 1: Right off the top? Thor you sounded like just kind 1443 01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:17,080 Speaker 1: of laid back, but now you're picking it up a 1444 01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:20,120 Speaker 1: little bit here, Justin? What about yourself? What line of 1445 01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:21,360 Speaker 1: work are you in? Or what do we find you 1446 01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:21,880 Speaker 1: doing today? 1447 01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:25,720 Speaker 5: Heavy highway construction? Oh? 1448 01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:29,160 Speaker 1: Really? Everything going? Okay? There you got They keep you busy, 1449 01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:33,280 Speaker 1: don't they sometimes? Well, nice job on fixing the stairs 1450 01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:35,240 Speaker 1: on Monument Circle, by the way, that six year project 1451 01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:36,360 Speaker 1: now is finally finished. 1452 01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:37,640 Speaker 6: Definitely was not me? 1453 01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:41,439 Speaker 1: All right, Justin, go ahead with your best gobble if 1454 01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:51,280 Speaker 1: you could. All right, okay, solid from Justin as well? 1455 01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:55,360 Speaker 1: Who's next? Eddie Fonda? Fonda? How are you? 1456 01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:57,599 Speaker 5: Hey? How's it going? 1457 01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:02,080 Speaker 1: It's going well now? Are you Fonda? Just out of curiosity? 1458 01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:02,920 Speaker 1: That's your first name? 1459 01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:04,799 Speaker 5: I take it, yes? 1460 01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:09,200 Speaker 1: Which Fonda? Do People most often make reference when you 1461 01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:13,200 Speaker 1: tell them your name, Henry or Jane? Jane? Okay, well, 1462 01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:16,040 Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that, depending on you know, I guess 1463 01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:18,880 Speaker 1: which folk you're talking about. Do you do a lot 1464 01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:20,639 Speaker 1: of that workout? Did you ever do that? Jane? Find 1465 01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:22,639 Speaker 1: a workout? No? 1466 01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:23,320 Speaker 3: Okay? 1467 01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:27,799 Speaker 1: Stay away from controversial photos during wartime? Correct? 1468 01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:29,679 Speaker 5: Correct? Okay? 1469 01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:32,000 Speaker 1: All right, Fonda, go ahead with your best turkey if 1470 01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:40,559 Speaker 1: you could, boy, I'll tell you what this is. Tough Eddie, 1471 01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:45,479 Speaker 1: all right? Find I appreciate it now, all right? So 1472 01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:46,000 Speaker 1: here is. 1473 01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:48,080 Speaker 2: Keith if you want to hear them back, Jake, this 1474 01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:59,080 Speaker 2: is Keith, Okay, Justin and Fonda? 1475 01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:08,280 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going ahead and tabulating my vote here. I've 1476 01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:12,000 Speaker 1: got my vote ready, okay, and who are you going with? 1477 01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:16,719 Speaker 1: I cast my vote for Keith. Can I hear Keith again? 1478 01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:17,040 Speaker 5: Please? 1479 01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:29,759 Speaker 1: Now? Can I hear James? Who is our gold standard? 1480 01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:32,439 Speaker 5: Boy? 1481 01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:40,439 Speaker 1: Can I hear Justin one more time? Justin? Yes, Justin's 1482 01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:42,640 Speaker 1: got a little taper off at the end there, and 1483 01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:45,360 Speaker 1: Keith stayed strong throughout. Fonda did a nice job too, 1484 01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:50,360 Speaker 1: but Fonda knew Fonda had a clearer spot on the barometer. 1485 01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:53,080 Speaker 1: Keith had to come in cold. Keith had to come 1486 01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:54,760 Speaker 1: in cold and just go with it. You said you're 1487 01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:56,719 Speaker 1: going with Keith. That was my vote. 1488 01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:57,000 Speaker 5: Yes. 1489 01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:01,240 Speaker 1: Todd has texted me he is going with Keith. I 1490 01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:03,120 Speaker 1: have not yet heard from James, but I will tell 1491 01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:09,200 Speaker 1: you this. I'll be the Simon call of the group. Keith, 1492 01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:13,800 Speaker 1: you got three yes's. Keith has gone through. He's got 1493 01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:18,200 Speaker 1: the golden ticket. Keith will get the entry into the 1494 01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:25,000 Speaker 1: Drumstick Dash. Solid, solid, and he went he went back 1495 01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:27,840 Speaker 1: to back right, he did, yeah, yeah, okay, Keith, you're 1496 01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:29,200 Speaker 1: on your way. We will look for you at the 1497 01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:30,240 Speaker 1: Drumstick Dash. 1498 01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:32,000 Speaker 2: Thank you, Justin and Fonde for playing along. 1499 01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:34,479 Speaker 1: Justin and FONDI yes, thanks for being good sports about it. 1500 01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:37,479 Speaker 1: We'll come back. It is going to be an early 1501 01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:40,559 Speaker 1: edition of the Crossover. But jamb is here and I'm 1502 01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:41,920 Speaker 1: going to be on my way to the airport. But 1503 01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:44,960 Speaker 1: we do have the pacers to discuss. We'll get Eddie's 1504 01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:47,120 Speaker 1: thoughts on that. We'll do it on the other side. 1505 01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:53,960 Speaker 1: Do you know what school Eddie Garrison is known for 1506 01:17:54,040 --> 01:18:00,320 Speaker 1: this particular song. I don't actually, this is the song 1507 01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:03,200 Speaker 1: in football that has played at the University of Michigan 1508 01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:05,559 Speaker 1: at their home games. And I did not know that 1509 01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:11,439 Speaker 1: until I went, oh, gosh it. When was Michigan in 1510 01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:14,960 Speaker 1: the Big Ten title game and they played Iowa? I believe, well, 1511 01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:16,439 Speaker 1: it might have been the year they won the national title. 1512 01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:19,200 Speaker 1: But I went downtown to one of the bars. My 1513 01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:21,920 Speaker 1: buddy Mike Byron's birthday was that particular Saturday night, and 1514 01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:22,960 Speaker 1: we went out and it. 1515 01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:24,880 Speaker 2: Was why do he remembered his id? 1516 01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:28,919 Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. All the Michigan fans were downtown 1517 01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:31,120 Speaker 1: and somebody put that song on and they went crazy, 1518 01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:33,559 Speaker 1: and I'm like, what in the world, And then they 1519 01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:36,120 Speaker 1: told me that's what they play at Michigan Stadium. I 1520 01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:38,400 Speaker 1: think other teams now have kind of picked up on that. 1521 01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:41,559 Speaker 1: It is a great song Pacers last night in action, 1522 01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:44,160 Speaker 1: it was not a great tune that they played in 1523 01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:48,200 Speaker 1: Salt Lake. You heard Eddie's reaction right there, Eddie Garrison 1524 01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:53,800 Speaker 1: when you look at that particular again and I think 1525 01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:55,639 Speaker 1: John said the best JMB. He's going to be joining 1526 01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:58,200 Speaker 1: us here in just a minute. It's not about the 1527 01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:02,599 Speaker 1: names or you know, the players that are out there 1528 01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:04,479 Speaker 1: you just want some sort of effort, and it looked 1529 01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:08,840 Speaker 1: like last night, especially after the first half of that game. 1530 01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:11,280 Speaker 1: It got away from a little bit late late second quarter, 1531 01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:14,160 Speaker 1: but you're overall assessment, obviously you're working it for the 1532 01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:14,880 Speaker 1: radio network. 1533 01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:16,400 Speaker 4: Like last night, it was like. 1534 01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:18,800 Speaker 2: Oh, you know, they get out ahead early, they start 1535 01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:20,519 Speaker 2: the game on a ten to zero run, and then 1536 01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:23,640 Speaker 2: next thing you know, Utah brings it down to two 1537 01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:25,799 Speaker 2: Pacers extended back out to the tam You're like, Okay, 1538 01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:28,759 Speaker 2: Andrew nimhar is hitting shots, they're moving the ball around, 1539 01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:33,160 Speaker 2: they're defending well, and it was just all downhill from there. 1540 01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:35,799 Speaker 2: And you could kind of tell, especially in that first half, 1541 01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:38,960 Speaker 2: that Rick Carlisle was looking for something, looking for answers, 1542 01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:41,960 Speaker 2: looking for effort, looking for people that were just gonna 1543 01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:45,400 Speaker 2: put their body on the line and defend. Because twelve 1544 01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:48,320 Speaker 2: different players played in the first half, Like how often 1545 01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:50,840 Speaker 2: do you see just any NBA team go twelve deep 1546 01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:53,519 Speaker 2: in the first twenty four minutes of play, And that's 1547 01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:55,720 Speaker 2: what the Pacers did last night. Everyone that was on 1548 01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:58,719 Speaker 2: the hardship deal played last night in the first half, 1549 01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:02,120 Speaker 2: and they show got the starting lineup hoping it would 1550 01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:04,360 Speaker 2: change something. It did, it didn't result in a win. 1551 01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:06,799 Speaker 2: At the end of the day, you had Tony Bradley 1552 01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:09,240 Speaker 2: making his first start of the year. Jeremiah Robinson Earl, 1553 01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:11,920 Speaker 2: who's on one of those hardship deals, got to start. 1554 01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:14,600 Speaker 2: Jerris Walker was moved to the bench. It just was 1555 01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:17,799 Speaker 2: not a good effort last night from the Pacers, especially defensively. 1556 01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:20,559 Speaker 2: And I will give credit to to Utah because there 1557 01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:23,280 Speaker 2: were some shots you're like, oh, like, come on, like 1558 01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:25,519 Speaker 2: you're defending it well, and they were just they was 1559 01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:26,720 Speaker 2: just through night last night. 1560 01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:29,519 Speaker 1: And how did you assess TJ. McConnell, because you know, 1561 01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:34,120 Speaker 1: obviously his first work of the year, and you know 1562 01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:37,000 Speaker 1: Robinson Earl's coming off of that that that deal is 1563 01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:39,760 Speaker 1: about to expire, and I thought he's played okay for them, 1564 01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:40,720 Speaker 1: But I think you. 1565 01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:43,680 Speaker 2: Just signed another ten day either yesterday or two days ago, 1566 01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:46,400 Speaker 2: so he's got probably another week with the Pacers. Of course, 1567 01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:49,280 Speaker 2: that is contingent I think on you know where the 1568 01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:51,240 Speaker 2: bodies are at in terms of moving forward on how 1569 01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:53,839 Speaker 2: soon they can get you know, Johnny Furfey or Benedict 1570 01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:57,400 Speaker 2: Matheren back, And it seems likely that Matherin is sooner 1571 01:20:57,400 --> 01:20:59,599 Speaker 2: than later, just because of the fact he's going through 1572 01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:02,479 Speaker 2: pregame workouts on the floor now, kind of on the 1573 01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:04,439 Speaker 2: same track of Angel Nimright. I think nim Hard was 1574 01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:06,280 Speaker 2: doing that for a week or so before he made 1575 01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:09,920 Speaker 2: his return. So I wouldn't expect Mathering back in the 1576 01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:12,800 Speaker 2: in the West Coast road Trip finale tomorrow night, but 1577 01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:15,400 Speaker 2: I think it is encouraging that he is back. As 1578 01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:17,800 Speaker 2: for McConnell, I thought he looked like TJ. McConnell got 1579 01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:20,920 Speaker 2: to his spots, got to that patented mid range jumper 1580 01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:23,280 Speaker 2: right up the free throw line and nobody can guard. 1581 01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:25,920 Speaker 2: Did his little thing where he drove the baseline and 1582 01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:28,519 Speaker 2: then kind of pivots around as a fadeaway jump shot 1583 01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:30,200 Speaker 2: got to the basket. I thought he did a really 1584 01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:32,960 Speaker 2: good job of being aggressive and looked like himself. He 1585 01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:35,000 Speaker 2: played eleven minutes only in the first half, and you 1586 01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:37,479 Speaker 2: know they're going to take it solely with him being 1587 01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:39,880 Speaker 2: over thirty years old, in it being a soft tissue 1588 01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:40,799 Speaker 2: injury like a hamstring. 1589 01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:44,320 Speaker 1: You know, he just McConnell has And I remember talking 1590 01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:48,879 Speaker 1: about this a lot during the finals. To your point, 1591 01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:51,519 Speaker 1: the ability to go down and kind of work the 1592 01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:56,559 Speaker 1: baseline and then curl back in and get into the lane, 1593 01:21:56,800 --> 01:22:01,120 Speaker 1: hit a jumper there, and just the facilitate for them 1594 01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:05,559 Speaker 1: has been so important. But and yes, to see him 1595 01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:08,639 Speaker 1: be able to do that, But at the same time, 1596 01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:11,200 Speaker 1: the personnel is obviously different. I would think he is 1597 01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:13,240 Speaker 1: a guy that takes a little getting used to it. 1598 01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:15,599 Speaker 1: You know, if you're somebody that's not used to playing 1599 01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:19,840 Speaker 1: with him, because you don't necessarily always anticipate when and 1600 01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:22,559 Speaker 1: where he is going to get the ball. You know 1601 01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:25,680 Speaker 1: where it needs to be. And that's what makes him 1602 01:22:25,720 --> 01:22:28,920 Speaker 1: so unique. And obviously a niece Smith or a nim 1603 01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:31,040 Speaker 1: Hard or a Siakam is used to that. Some of 1604 01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:35,439 Speaker 1: the other faces are not the guy that, to me, Eddie, 1605 01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:37,599 Speaker 1: I really want to see. I mentioned it going into 1606 01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:42,280 Speaker 1: the break. I think I will tell you this. About 1607 01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:45,160 Speaker 1: a year ago, I was at an event and I 1608 01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:50,240 Speaker 1: ran into somebody within the Pacers brass and we were 1609 01:22:50,280 --> 01:22:54,840 Speaker 1: talking and unsolicited, it was brought up to me of hey, 1610 01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:59,799 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. The coaches really love Johnny Furfey 1611 01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:01,920 Speaker 1: And that was the name that was thrown to me, 1612 01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:06,920 Speaker 1: and I mentioned, I think they really like Johnny Furfee's. 1613 01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:11,320 Speaker 1: This sounds weird, but his quick hands in his ability 1614 01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:16,200 Speaker 1: to quickly release the basketball on his shot. And I 1615 01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:19,479 Speaker 1: think that they look at a guy like Furfee as 1616 01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:23,960 Speaker 1: somebody that from a length standpoint is a little deceptive 1617 01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:27,280 Speaker 1: in his defense, and he's still very young, but they 1618 01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:29,679 Speaker 1: like his side in just his overall court presence. 1619 01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:29,880 Speaker 6: Now. 1620 01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:32,639 Speaker 1: He has not a lot like Jarris Walker. I think 1621 01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:35,880 Speaker 1: Johnny Furfee has at times played where it looks like 1622 01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:39,240 Speaker 1: the game is he's trying, he's moving faster than the game, 1623 01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:41,160 Speaker 1: trying to keep up with it, and so it takes 1624 01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:43,599 Speaker 1: him out of like a comfort rhythm. Ye and it 1625 01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:46,200 Speaker 1: looked like he was just starting to slow that down 1626 01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:47,720 Speaker 1: a little bit. And I know people want to get 1627 01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:52,759 Speaker 1: excited about the dunks, but in terms of playing style 1628 01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:56,280 Speaker 1: and speed, it looked like it was just finally starting 1629 01:23:56,280 --> 01:23:58,280 Speaker 1: to slow down for him. And then the injury happened 1630 01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:00,120 Speaker 1: where and I got to think, I think of the 1631 01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:04,280 Speaker 1: Golden State game, was it not yeah, where he you know, 1632 01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:06,679 Speaker 1: he kind of rolled the ankle or and he goes out. 1633 01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:10,200 Speaker 1: But he is one that this year. I just think, Eddie, 1634 01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:13,639 Speaker 1: if you were to pick three that you're really hoping 1635 01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:17,439 Speaker 1: to see get significant minutes and growth periods this year, 1636 01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:21,000 Speaker 1: it would be Furfey, it would be in no particular order. 1637 01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:24,040 Speaker 1: Jaris Walker and Ben Shepherd. And Ben Sheppard we already know, 1638 01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:26,320 Speaker 1: you know, he knows what his role is now. He 1639 01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:28,240 Speaker 1: has not shot the ball well from the outside to 1640 01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:30,800 Speaker 1: this point. How much of that is circumstanced. How much 1641 01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:32,400 Speaker 1: of that is getting the ball to the right spot 1642 01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:35,040 Speaker 1: for him? You know, I don't know, but those are 1643 01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:37,360 Speaker 1: the three guys that if you look at where they're 1644 01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:41,599 Speaker 1: going from here moving forward, and you get Haliburton back 1645 01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:45,320 Speaker 1: next season, and you have Siakham and you have Nie 1646 01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:47,760 Speaker 1: Smith and you have nim Hard, you still have to 1647 01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:50,840 Speaker 1: replace Turner. But if you can get you know, you 1648 01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:55,000 Speaker 1: got McConnell back. If you've got Walker, Furfey and Shepherd 1649 01:24:55,080 --> 01:25:00,559 Speaker 1: in steady rotation, Taylor Peter becomes say another b Shepherd 1650 01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:03,320 Speaker 1: in terms of Shepherd's rookie year where he has that 1651 01:25:03,439 --> 01:25:05,360 Speaker 1: kind of a role, those kinds of a minute, those 1652 01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:07,960 Speaker 1: kind of minutes, and then you added a top draft pick. 1653 01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:12,000 Speaker 1: You have the pieces there for two years from now 1654 01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:15,080 Speaker 1: to be right back where you were. It's just the 1655 01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:18,679 Speaker 1: matter of waiting on that and the frustration of knowing 1656 01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:19,920 Speaker 1: that it was right there for you. 1657 01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:22,479 Speaker 2: I go back to it wasn't the Golden State game 1658 01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:24,000 Speaker 2: he got urd That was the game he returned for. 1659 01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:26,320 Speaker 2: Played twenty three minutes. In that game, I had five points, 1660 01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:28,400 Speaker 2: three rebounds, two steals. 1661 01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:28,840 Speaker 1: It was the. 1662 01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:34,840 Speaker 2: Miles Turner return game against Milwaukee that he initially got 1663 01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:38,120 Speaker 2: injured on like what appeared to look like a chest injury, 1664 01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:41,240 Speaker 2: and then he eventually later turned that left ankle. 1665 01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:44,720 Speaker 1: But after that game, Yes, after. 1666 01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:46,720 Speaker 2: That Golden State game, I remember they were talking to 1667 01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:50,439 Speaker 2: Quinton Jackson and Pascal Siakam after the game, and Johnny 1668 01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:51,920 Speaker 2: might have been the one. Tony East might have been 1669 01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:55,240 Speaker 2: the one that asked him in this question about about 1670 01:25:55,320 --> 01:25:58,760 Speaker 2: Johnny Furfy and Pascal's like, dude, that guy's a different cat, 1671 01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:01,040 Speaker 2: Like you don't want to mess with for like first's 1672 01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:03,000 Speaker 2: gonna be really good, and like you can tell that 1673 01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:05,680 Speaker 2: the bench is rallying behind him every time he's in 1674 01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:08,040 Speaker 2: the game. You know, they they support him and they're 1675 01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:10,360 Speaker 2: cheering him on and everything like that. These guys love 1676 01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:11,120 Speaker 2: Johnny Furphy. 1677 01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:15,639 Speaker 1: It is, you know, and you just don't know because 1678 01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:17,160 Speaker 1: of the fact that you know, I mean, I know 1679 01:26:17,200 --> 01:26:18,599 Speaker 1: he was at Kansas for a year. As a matter 1680 01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:20,200 Speaker 1: of fact, the one time that I talked to him. 1681 01:26:20,720 --> 01:26:22,320 Speaker 1: I felt like a total moron because it was in 1682 01:26:22,360 --> 01:26:25,519 Speaker 1: the Winner and I said, man, so you're Australian, Like, 1683 01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:29,240 Speaker 1: is this the coldest temperature you've ever felt? And he's like, well, dude, 1684 01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:31,000 Speaker 1: I was in Kansas for a year and you almost 1685 01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:32,640 Speaker 1: forget it right. It's like, oh, that's right. I mean 1686 01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:35,040 Speaker 1: he played at a big time program, was on the floor 1687 01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:39,559 Speaker 1: and you you, you know, you get intrigued by what 1688 01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:41,880 Speaker 1: it is that he can do. But he's one guy 1689 01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:44,840 Speaker 1: that I do want to see. Get out there. It 1690 01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:47,600 Speaker 1: is an hour early. It is much appreciated. It is 1691 01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:49,240 Speaker 1: the crossover brought to you by the good guys that 1692 01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:52,559 Speaker 1: love heating and air lovedash HVAC dot com three one 1693 01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:55,040 Speaker 1: seven three five three twenty one forty one is the 1694 01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:59,080 Speaker 1: telephone number and JMV has arrived. John. I appreciate you 1695 01:26:59,120 --> 01:26:59,799 Speaker 1: doing the show. 1696 01:27:00,160 --> 01:27:02,280 Speaker 4: Buddy, you got it. You you guys going to King's 1697 01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:04,000 Speaker 4: Island like the Brady bust On vacation. 1698 01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:06,800 Speaker 1: We are, we are, and then we're gonna end it. 1699 01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:09,080 Speaker 1: We've got to go find the Yogi Bear prints and 1700 01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:10,040 Speaker 1: then we're gonna head over to. 1701 01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:13,439 Speaker 4: Boy I had Little Island. Did you like I always 1702 01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:15,920 Speaker 4: got excited when Marsha and Jan were running though with 1703 01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:19,599 Speaker 4: the plans that they found. I thought, wow, oh yeah, 1704 01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:21,720 Speaker 4: I thought Jan was kind of hot back then, you. 1705 01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:24,080 Speaker 1: Know, Jan. Do you know what Jan's first gig was 1706 01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:27,760 Speaker 1: after the Brady Bunch went away. 1707 01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:28,080 Speaker 4: The Party Bunch Variety Show. 1708 01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:32,320 Speaker 1: She was the commercial spokesperson for Burger Chef. 1709 01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:34,599 Speaker 4: Oh, yes, she was, wasn't she. 1710 01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:35,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1711 01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:38,680 Speaker 4: God, I love Burger Shift. Did we all love Burger Chefs? Seriously? 1712 01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:41,040 Speaker 4: Remember they had the Fix's bar before? 1713 01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:41,679 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1714 01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:44,559 Speaker 4: Who invented the sneeze bar? Do we know the sneeze guard? 1715 01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:47,240 Speaker 4: Because that was before you guard. You just get right 1716 01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:48,840 Speaker 4: up in there with your face and go, hey, give 1717 01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:51,719 Speaker 4: me that shredded letters Burger Chef and Jeff Baby, hey, Jake, 1718 01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:54,439 Speaker 4: let's place your bets right here, everybody in the studio. 1719 01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:57,240 Speaker 4: How long is it gonna take this? Will this computer 1720 01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:00,679 Speaker 4: be active for me before the end of this four hours? 1721 01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:03,480 Speaker 1: It just took me six minutes to log out of mind. 1722 01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:05,240 Speaker 4: Look at this? Please wait? 1723 01:28:05,320 --> 01:28:07,680 Speaker 1: How many how many times are they gonna ask you 1724 01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:10,160 Speaker 1: if you want to be part of Microsoft teams? When 1725 01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:10,960 Speaker 1: you oh. 1726 01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:14,160 Speaker 4: I know you want to be a part of Microsoft Messages? 1727 01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:15,320 Speaker 4: There from three years ago. 1728 01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:19,559 Speaker 1: It's asking, it's asking whether you want to accept or 1729 01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:21,520 Speaker 1: decline on a meeting that has. 1730 01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:23,640 Speaker 4: Nobody in this building has ever wanted to be a 1731 01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:26,479 Speaker 4: part of Microsoft teams. You never noticed that. Hey, by 1732 01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:29,000 Speaker 4: the way, I'm gonna talk about this and I'm sure 1733 01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:32,599 Speaker 4: you have as well. I'm all for you. Okay, this 1734 01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:36,280 Speaker 4: is who the paces are. But last night last night 1735 01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:37,320 Speaker 4: was just embarrassing. 1736 01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:37,679 Speaker 1: Yep. 1737 01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:40,080 Speaker 4: Did you see Aurora Borealis came off the bench for 1738 01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:42,280 Speaker 4: the jazz and scored fifteen or four or five from 1739 01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:42,719 Speaker 4: the floor. 1740 01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:45,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, listen, I saw the I saw the Aurora 1741 01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:49,280 Speaker 1: Borealis Northern Lights last night because I finally punted on 1742 01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:50,840 Speaker 1: the game, was like, okay, what. 1743 01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:54,560 Speaker 4: Song has the lyric Aurora Borealis? 1744 01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:56,080 Speaker 1: We played it right top Neil Young Right? 1745 01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:59,240 Speaker 4: Oh? What is this chair here too? Is this the 1746 01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:03,920 Speaker 4: ricord chair? I feel like I'm running to huffy. Hey, 1747 01:29:03,960 --> 01:29:08,120 Speaker 4: Iran by a Flock of Seagulls. Aurora Borealis is mentioned 1748 01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:11,200 Speaker 4: in Iran by a Flock If she I love? 1749 01:29:11,280 --> 01:29:14,360 Speaker 1: By the way, space Age love song from Flock of Seagulls. 1750 01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:16,320 Speaker 1: You played that one for me on the tame Yeah, 1751 01:29:16,360 --> 01:29:16,800 Speaker 1: I like. 1752 01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:19,080 Speaker 4: A photo they have like three songs, photographs. 1753 01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:20,719 Speaker 1: Computer are still logging out. 1754 01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:23,360 Speaker 4: Wishing look at this is going. Hey, then I got 1755 01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:26,000 Speaker 4: Jeff Rickard's huffy bike chair right here too. 1756 01:29:26,439 --> 01:29:28,439 Speaker 1: Well, J and B will carry you home. He will 1757 01:29:28,439 --> 01:29:30,960 Speaker 1: do it an hour early. I'm on vacation, Greg Raigstohn, 1758 01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:33,240 Speaker 1: Derek Schultz will fill in capably, and I will be 1759 01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:36,120 Speaker 1: back with you a week from today. As a matter 1760 01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:38,840 Speaker 1: of fact, I come back on Tuesday. Fun knock on 1761 01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:41,040 Speaker 1: wood with the flights. John, appreciate it is that. Hey, 1762 01:29:41,080 --> 01:29:45,920 Speaker 1: Shannon stands going with me. She's agedly at the airport 1763 01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:48,040 Speaker 1: right now. We'll see. I'll let you know she's at 1764 01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:50,400 Speaker 1: the gate, all right, Jamb's up next. I'll be back 1765 01:29:50,439 --> 01:29:52,559 Speaker 1: with you. Thanks for listening on Wednesday. I'll be back. 1766 01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:53,880 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to Quarrying Company. 1767 01:29:55,400 --> 01:29:58,000 Speaker 4: Hey, let me fire this bad boy up an hour early. 1768 01:29:58,479 --> 01:30:03,960 Speaker 4: Jake is on a flight. He's going on vacation. I'd 1769 01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:08,040 Speaker 4: ask if maybe Shannon was staying behind to quote hang out, 1770 01:30:08,160 --> 01:30:12,400 Speaker 4: but evidently they're both going together. So safe travels to 1771 01:30:12,520 --> 01:30:15,639 Speaker 4: Jake and Shannon for their vacation on this bye week. 1772 01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:17,679 Speaker 4: I am in an hour early. That is all good 1773 01:30:17,720 --> 01:30:20,240 Speaker 4: on Quary and Company. That's Eddie Garrison over there. I'MJMV. 1774 01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:23,280 Speaker 4: And then coming up after this the normal three hours. 1775 01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:25,560 Speaker 4: I did want to remind you tomorrow I'm going to 1776 01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:30,400 Speaker 4: be staked out in Bloomington at the incredible Upstairs Pub. 1777 01:30:31,360 --> 01:30:34,440 Speaker 4: That is tomorrow's Larceny bourbon locks and a Luna Zultequila 1778 01:30:34,520 --> 01:30:37,880 Speaker 4: shots and with the free samples that we normally hand out. 1779 01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:41,920 Speaker 4: If you think that any show in the history of 1780 01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:46,840 Speaker 4: the station, any station, no matter radio TV, could get 1781 01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:51,360 Speaker 4: off the rails, tomorrow would probably be the moment in 1782 01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:55,320 Speaker 4: which that could happen. Because I cannot wait to get 1783 01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:59,559 Speaker 4: down there upstairs pub coming up tomorrow, that's sweek eleven 1784 01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:02,639 Speaker 4: of our largity bourbon locks and Luna Zul tequila shots. 1785 01:31:02,680 --> 01:31:04,799 Speaker 4: I will tell you this. I put the bat signal 1786 01:31:04,840 --> 01:31:06,920 Speaker 4: lot to everybody down at EU and I said, hey, 1787 01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:10,240 Speaker 4: everybody joined us. Plus I went down and unlocked the 1788 01:31:10,280 --> 01:31:13,800 Speaker 4: gate of forty five, so everybody from Green County can 1789 01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:16,439 Speaker 4: join too. You know, normally that thing's locked up tight, 1790 01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:19,160 Speaker 4: but I want ahead and unlocked things, so everybody from 1791 01:31:19,240 --> 01:31:22,720 Speaker 4: Green County can join. And if you're feeling it, deal it. 1792 01:31:23,479 --> 01:31:25,800 Speaker 4: If you're feeling like driving down there and hanging out 1793 01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:28,120 Speaker 4: on what's supposed to be. I believe a glorious day 1794 01:31:28,160 --> 01:31:31,120 Speaker 4: coming up tomorrow. I would love to see you with 1795 01:31:31,240 --> 01:31:35,640 Speaker 4: Brent Holverson and Larcity bourbon locks and Luna Azul tequila shots. 1796 01:31:36,080 --> 01:31:39,280 Speaker 4: I go way back with the Upstairs Pub. I go 1797 01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:42,840 Speaker 4: back further than anybody really. When it was connected to Hooligans, 1798 01:31:43,240 --> 01:31:46,439 Speaker 4: and I mentioned yesterday, you had a trough and I 1799 01:31:46,479 --> 01:31:49,160 Speaker 4: always bypassed the trough because I had stage fried. I 1800 01:31:49,160 --> 01:31:52,679 Speaker 4: always went to these single urinal. They had a single urine. 1801 01:31:52,720 --> 01:31:55,400 Speaker 4: I don't know if it was unified or just men's 1802 01:31:55,479 --> 01:31:59,720 Speaker 4: or just women's. It didn't matter because I couldn't do 1803 01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:03,360 Speaker 4: any thing at the trough. But they had a trough. 1804 01:32:03,439 --> 01:32:07,200 Speaker 4: It was between Hooligans and the Upstairs Pub back in 1805 01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:10,439 Speaker 4: the day, and the most popular dude in the bar 1806 01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:14,360 Speaker 4: was former IU quarterback Trent Green. It was glorious, tah, 1807 01:32:14,479 --> 01:32:17,880 Speaker 4: it was really glorious days. So I can't wait to 1808 01:32:17,920 --> 01:32:20,520 Speaker 4: relive that and more coming up tomorrow with you guys 1809 01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:22,880 Speaker 4: at the Upstairs Pub in Bloomington, so in and around 1810 01:32:22,880 --> 01:32:25,439 Speaker 4: Monroe County. We would certainly love to see you if 1811 01:32:25,439 --> 01:32:27,280 Speaker 4: you have time to want to make the track down, 1812 01:32:28,120 --> 01:32:30,080 Speaker 4: I would love to see you as well tomorrow at 1813 01:32:30,120 --> 01:32:35,200 Speaker 4: the upstairs pub. I I cannot just pass off what 1814 01:32:35,240 --> 01:32:37,479 Speaker 4: we witnessed last night. If you stayed up late to 1815 01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:39,960 Speaker 4: watch the pages in Salt Lake City as hey, you 1816 01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:44,480 Speaker 4: know what they were without dudes, because last night was embarrassing. 1817 01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:47,960 Speaker 4: Last night can't happen. You can't give up one five 1818 01:32:47,960 --> 01:32:51,080 Speaker 4: to two to a crapwater team like that. That was 1819 01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:54,800 Speaker 4: a three win team at home and you gagged up 1820 01:32:55,040 --> 01:32:59,519 Speaker 4: one fifty two. And I realize all that is going 1821 01:32:59,560 --> 01:33:05,000 Speaker 4: on here, and I'm willing to accept and understand what's 1822 01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:08,200 Speaker 4: happening with this team again until further note is health wise. 1823 01:33:08,640 --> 01:33:11,519 Speaker 4: But I am not at all willing to accept and 1824 01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:16,000 Speaker 4: just give that a pardon. That was embarrassing. I don't 1825 01:33:16,040 --> 01:33:18,400 Speaker 4: care who you had on the floor. I don't care 1826 01:33:18,439 --> 01:33:23,320 Speaker 4: what personnel was available. That last night was embarrassing. Joining 1827 01:33:23,360 --> 01:33:26,599 Speaker 4: us now to discuss that on Quarrying Company. He writes 1828 01:33:26,640 --> 01:33:28,719 Speaker 4: for a variety, and he should be writing for even 1829 01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:31,720 Speaker 4: more because the dude is top notch. Tony East is 1830 01:33:31,720 --> 01:33:35,080 Speaker 4: on the Anymore Automotive Group hootline. I can't give that 1831 01:33:35,120 --> 01:33:37,600 Speaker 4: a pardon last night, Tony, no matter the circumstances, I 1832 01:33:37,640 --> 01:33:38,040 Speaker 4: just can't. 1833 01:33:38,840 --> 01:33:41,000 Speaker 6: I'd actually take it a step further than something you 1834 01:33:41,080 --> 01:33:43,360 Speaker 6: just said. You said you can't give up one fifty 1835 01:33:43,400 --> 01:33:45,080 Speaker 6: two to a three win Jazz, if you can't give 1836 01:33:45,160 --> 01:33:46,680 Speaker 6: up fifty to anybody man. 1837 01:33:46,840 --> 01:33:51,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're exactly right. I Rick Carlisle. I'm 1838 01:33:51,640 --> 01:33:54,639 Speaker 4: assuming read them the Riot Act at some point because 1839 01:33:54,680 --> 01:33:55,520 Speaker 4: that was embarrassing. 1840 01:33:56,400 --> 01:33:58,519 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I mean, and you know what's funny is 1841 01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:00,439 Speaker 6: like all I mean even with you, why we've talked 1842 01:34:00,479 --> 01:34:03,720 Speaker 6: about how they can't score off season, right, They've either 1843 01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:05,559 Speaker 6: missed a bunch of shots or they played Golden State 1844 01:34:05,560 --> 01:34:08,519 Speaker 6: and they have twenty whatever turnovers. It's like some function 1845 01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:10,880 Speaker 6: of their offense has been off every night. Last night 1846 01:34:10,960 --> 01:34:13,240 Speaker 6: was their best offensive game of the season. Yeah, they 1847 01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:15,880 Speaker 6: actually made forty seven percent of their shots, they only 1848 01:34:15,920 --> 01:34:18,519 Speaker 6: had eight turnovers. Like that's what I've been waiting for 1849 01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:20,599 Speaker 6: as a game to show, like, look, these guys are 1850 01:34:20,640 --> 01:34:22,760 Speaker 6: better than what they've shown on offense. They can score points. 1851 01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:25,720 Speaker 6: They did it. TJ McConnell's back. He's flipping shots that 1852 01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:28,160 Speaker 6: like only he takes in the league. Today should have 1853 01:34:28,160 --> 01:34:31,519 Speaker 6: been a day talking about how their health has them. Okay, 1854 01:34:31,520 --> 01:34:34,280 Speaker 6: potentially they can start winning some games and they got blasted. 1855 01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:38,000 Speaker 6: It wasn't even close because they never I don't know 1856 01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:39,880 Speaker 6: how late you stayed up. I presume you watched most. 1857 01:34:39,720 --> 01:34:41,639 Speaker 4: Of what was up until like two in the morning, 1858 01:34:41,720 --> 01:34:46,720 Speaker 4: so I think I watched everything, including Magnum p I. 1859 01:34:46,720 --> 01:34:48,559 Speaker 6: I mean, it was just like even in the fourth corps. 1860 01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:50,760 Speaker 6: They so they keep the starters in the start the 1861 01:34:50,800 --> 01:34:53,840 Speaker 6: fourth to both I would say, one, try to make 1862 01:34:53,840 --> 01:34:55,639 Speaker 6: a push but also send a bit of a message, 1863 01:34:55,640 --> 01:34:57,680 Speaker 6: and like that group was scoring really well, they got 1864 01:34:57,680 --> 01:35:00,719 Speaker 6: it down to seventeen, but that they couldn't not stop 1865 01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:03,120 Speaker 6: the jazz at all. And like Matt Markin and you 1866 01:35:03,160 --> 01:35:06,000 Speaker 6: get it everybody else, it's like, you can't stop these guys. 1867 01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:08,120 Speaker 6: They're wide open threes every playing and get to the 1868 01:35:08,200 --> 01:35:10,960 Speaker 6: rim half the time. It was terrible defense. And that's 1869 01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:12,880 Speaker 6: why the second time all season I had felt like 1870 01:35:12,920 --> 01:35:14,880 Speaker 6: after a game that their defense was the problem, the 1871 01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:17,679 Speaker 6: Atlanta game at home being the other one. They can't 1872 01:35:17,680 --> 01:35:19,800 Speaker 6: have that when their offense has been this badle season. 1873 01:35:19,880 --> 01:35:22,479 Speaker 6: It was a terrible time. I think for the vibes 1874 01:35:22,479 --> 01:35:24,040 Speaker 6: of that team to have a lot of like that. 1875 01:35:24,360 --> 01:35:27,880 Speaker 4: Well, because we have preached to people, hey listen, this 1876 01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:30,600 Speaker 4: is not a similar at all product to what you 1877 01:35:30,720 --> 01:35:33,479 Speaker 4: witnessed a year ago and what you were so enthralled 1878 01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:36,880 Speaker 4: and excited about. This is not at all close. But 1879 01:35:37,040 --> 01:35:39,479 Speaker 4: these dudes are still going to play hard. I thought 1880 01:35:39,560 --> 01:35:43,400 Speaker 4: last night was a half assed product at best defensively. 1881 01:35:44,200 --> 01:35:45,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, and you, yeah, I agree with you. And you're 1882 01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:48,200 Speaker 6: if you're even think about if you're on the team, 1883 01:35:48,520 --> 01:35:50,519 Speaker 6: like you know, you're better than how you've played, but 1884 01:35:50,600 --> 01:35:53,200 Speaker 6: you know why because you've been so hurt and they're 1885 01:35:53,240 --> 01:35:55,679 Speaker 6: still hurt. Like they didn't have Matherin, they're net furpey, 1886 01:35:55,720 --> 01:35:58,559 Speaker 6: they didn't have Quintin Abson tie, they're still missing lots 1887 01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:01,160 Speaker 6: of guys, but like that that group available should have 1888 01:36:01,160 --> 01:36:03,479 Speaker 6: been able to be competitive with Utah. Right, and they 1889 01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:05,519 Speaker 6: were up what ten to nothing and then twenty to ten, 1890 01:36:05,600 --> 01:36:08,639 Speaker 6: and for half of the first quarter was like there 1891 01:36:08,680 --> 01:36:10,960 Speaker 6: it is the Pacers that we all thought we might 1892 01:36:11,000 --> 01:36:13,760 Speaker 6: see for you know, several games this season. And then 1893 01:36:13,760 --> 01:36:17,360 Speaker 6: from literally that point on they got beat by thirty four. Right, 1894 01:36:17,560 --> 01:36:21,080 Speaker 6: they just got they got smacked. And I don't really 1895 01:36:21,160 --> 01:36:24,240 Speaker 6: get what happened, like as a shift that would have 1896 01:36:24,240 --> 01:36:27,479 Speaker 6: made them defense so poorly because they shifted their starting lineup, 1897 01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:29,720 Speaker 6: and to be clear, I think they probably should be 1898 01:36:29,800 --> 01:36:32,479 Speaker 6: trying to get Jaris more reps. But Robinson Earl, who's 1899 01:36:32,479 --> 01:36:33,880 Speaker 6: been on a team for ten days, has been more 1900 01:36:33,880 --> 01:36:36,519 Speaker 6: consistent than him. Tony Bradley's been their most consistent center. 1901 01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:39,479 Speaker 6: Like they were clearly starting a group they thought and 1902 01:36:39,520 --> 01:36:41,360 Speaker 6: the group, by the way they started one their minutes 1903 01:36:41,400 --> 01:36:44,240 Speaker 6: by three, Like they clearly thought that group would give 1904 01:36:44,280 --> 01:36:47,040 Speaker 6: them the most balanced and consistency, and it made them 1905 01:36:47,080 --> 01:36:49,240 Speaker 6: score better. But their defense just not. I don't even 1906 01:36:49,240 --> 01:36:50,920 Speaker 6: think because the lineup change, I just think it stunk. 1907 01:36:50,960 --> 01:36:53,880 Speaker 6: Their defense just completely fell apart in every way. 1908 01:36:54,280 --> 01:36:57,160 Speaker 4: Tony East joins us on Cuirying Company ninety three to 1909 01:36:57,200 --> 01:36:59,840 Speaker 4: five and one oh seven five the fan, I would 1910 01:37:00,120 --> 01:37:04,920 Speaker 4: it acknowledge this as well. We're constantly evaluating guys that 1911 01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:08,680 Speaker 4: under circumstances of health, we would not be evaluated. So 1912 01:37:08,840 --> 01:37:11,320 Speaker 4: this moment, early in the season, where we are in 1913 01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:13,799 Speaker 4: the month of November, how do you look at guys 1914 01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:15,880 Speaker 4: from what we've seen so far? When are you're talking 1915 01:37:15,880 --> 01:37:18,320 Speaker 4: about the trio trying to make up now for Miles 1916 01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:22,559 Speaker 4: Turner or Ben Shephard or Jeff Walker. Where are you 1917 01:37:22,640 --> 01:37:25,360 Speaker 4: with guys like that? If we're making a snap evaluation 1918 01:37:25,479 --> 01:37:26,560 Speaker 4: in the month of November. 1919 01:37:27,360 --> 01:37:29,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's actually something that I haven't I mean, there 1920 01:37:29,760 --> 01:37:31,760 Speaker 6: hasn't really been a reason to talk about it because 1921 01:37:31,760 --> 01:37:33,599 Speaker 6: it's so early in the season. You're talking about wins 1922 01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:36,320 Speaker 6: and losses. But like a very frustrating thing to me 1923 01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:39,479 Speaker 6: if I am on the Pacers staff about this start 1924 01:37:39,520 --> 01:37:41,400 Speaker 6: to the season, is not only have you not won 1925 01:37:41,560 --> 01:37:43,880 Speaker 6: hardly at all, like the guys you would hope to 1926 01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:47,160 Speaker 6: evaluate either have also not been available or have been 1927 01:37:47,200 --> 01:37:49,760 Speaker 6: playing out of position in a way that it's like 1928 01:37:50,160 --> 01:37:53,280 Speaker 6: what does this even matter? Right, Like they haven't had 1929 01:37:53,280 --> 01:37:55,799 Speaker 6: for v hardly at all. They haven't had Cam Jones 1930 01:37:55,840 --> 01:37:58,719 Speaker 6: a single time. Memhard, who they hope they could evaluate 1931 01:37:58,720 --> 01:38:00,760 Speaker 6: at point guard for more, has played now three and 1932 01:38:00,840 --> 01:38:03,560 Speaker 6: a half games, right, Ben Matherens played one and a 1933 01:38:03,600 --> 01:38:06,040 Speaker 6: half games, Like all this stuff that you'd really want 1934 01:38:06,080 --> 01:38:09,280 Speaker 6: to learn about. Also you haven't been able to learn 1935 01:38:09,280 --> 01:38:11,720 Speaker 6: about because of how their season has gone and what 1936 01:38:11,760 --> 01:38:14,800 Speaker 6: their injuries have been, which is a big bummer. Now 1937 01:38:14,920 --> 01:38:16,960 Speaker 6: the last couple of games there's been more sample of 1938 01:38:17,000 --> 01:38:19,479 Speaker 6: Nowhard at the one I would say like maybe the 1939 01:38:19,520 --> 01:38:21,720 Speaker 6: only positive from this road trip where they've been blown 1940 01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:24,559 Speaker 6: out three times. Is like that he's scoring man and 1941 01:38:24,880 --> 01:38:26,519 Speaker 6: ward to get into his spots and putting the ball 1942 01:38:26,520 --> 01:38:29,080 Speaker 6: in the basket. And last night finally stuck some threes, 1943 01:38:29,120 --> 01:38:32,000 Speaker 6: which has been evading him all season. That's been nice. Like, 1944 01:38:32,040 --> 01:38:33,320 Speaker 6: I know they want to learn more about what he 1945 01:38:33,360 --> 01:38:36,320 Speaker 6: can do in that role at what volume. But you know, 1946 01:38:36,400 --> 01:38:38,800 Speaker 6: Jeris Walker and Ben Shephard are the only two young 1947 01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:41,519 Speaker 6: guys who have played all ten games, and as Ed Jackson, 1948 01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:43,800 Speaker 6: I suppose, and Chef's had to play point guard, like 1949 01:38:44,320 --> 01:38:46,240 Speaker 6: he's done okay getting to the basket this year, but 1950 01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:48,600 Speaker 6: he can't make anything. Like what are they learning from that? 1951 01:38:48,680 --> 01:38:51,240 Speaker 6: Is that actually something that matters to them? Jeriff Walker, 1952 01:38:51,600 --> 01:38:52,280 Speaker 6: no man. 1953 01:38:52,280 --> 01:38:56,519 Speaker 4: Like has been the lowest percentage three point shooter in 1954 01:38:56,560 --> 01:38:58,560 Speaker 4: the NBA so far. Did I see that accurately? 1955 01:38:59,160 --> 01:39:02,320 Speaker 6: It's crazy because he's like every playoffs he makes forty 1956 01:39:02,320 --> 01:39:04,080 Speaker 6: percent of his three or thirty eight or whatever. And 1957 01:39:04,120 --> 01:39:05,960 Speaker 6: you're like, Yeah, this guy can clearly shoot when it 1958 01:39:06,000 --> 01:39:08,080 Speaker 6: matters and he's confident, and then he goes through these 1959 01:39:08,120 --> 01:39:10,360 Speaker 6: stretches in the regular season and you're like, what is happening? 1960 01:39:10,400 --> 01:39:13,160 Speaker 6: Like he can't make any of them right now? And 1961 01:39:14,080 --> 01:39:16,599 Speaker 6: he's getting to the rims so much more that you're like, Okay, 1962 01:39:16,640 --> 01:39:18,240 Speaker 6: maybe that's a good thing, but who cares if you 1963 01:39:18,240 --> 01:39:21,639 Speaker 6: can't make any shots. Jaris was awesome when he began 1964 01:39:21,720 --> 01:39:23,800 Speaker 6: to start games like a week and a half ago, 1965 01:39:23,880 --> 01:39:25,720 Speaker 6: and now has had probably his two worst games of 1966 01:39:25,760 --> 01:39:27,599 Speaker 6: the season back to back where he can't make anything. 1967 01:39:27,680 --> 01:39:30,760 Speaker 6: His defense looks flimsy, he's throwing the ball everywhere, and 1968 01:39:30,800 --> 01:39:32,680 Speaker 6: he's not even playing that much out of position. He's 1969 01:39:32,680 --> 01:39:34,400 Speaker 6: probably asked to be a lead creator a little more 1970 01:39:34,400 --> 01:39:36,600 Speaker 6: than he should be, but it's just been weird. The 1971 01:39:36,640 --> 01:39:38,800 Speaker 6: center stuff like that was a big storyline coming into 1972 01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:43,080 Speaker 6: the season. Amazingly, that's been their healthiest position Isaiad Jackson's 1973 01:39:43,080 --> 01:39:45,160 Speaker 6: had some awesome moments and some I'm like nah ones. 1974 01:39:45,320 --> 01:39:47,400 Speaker 6: Jay Huff has not been with They probably hoped he'd 1975 01:39:47,400 --> 01:39:50,080 Speaker 6: be Tony Bradley, though that guy is rock solid every 1976 01:39:50,120 --> 01:39:52,479 Speaker 6: second he's on the floor. So it's just a lot 1977 01:39:52,479 --> 01:39:55,800 Speaker 6: of like one unanswered questions of guys they hope they'd 1978 01:39:55,800 --> 01:39:58,200 Speaker 6: get answers to, and two some of the answers aren't 1979 01:39:58,200 --> 01:40:00,600 Speaker 6: even relevant. Like great, it's great that been separate and 1980 01:40:00,640 --> 01:40:02,240 Speaker 6: drive a little more, but like who cares he probably 1981 01:40:02,240 --> 01:40:04,200 Speaker 6: would do that much when the Pacers are healthy, right, 1982 01:40:04,320 --> 01:40:04,559 Speaker 6: I do. 1983 01:40:04,640 --> 01:40:08,120 Speaker 4: All feel me. I feel no, no, no, I feel 1984 01:40:08,160 --> 01:40:10,120 Speaker 4: the same way as you do about this, because I 1985 01:40:10,200 --> 01:40:12,160 Speaker 4: was not going back and forth in a nice way 1986 01:40:12,560 --> 01:40:14,680 Speaker 4: with some good friends on social media a little bit 1987 01:40:14,720 --> 01:40:18,240 Speaker 4: earlier about the Pacers defensively, and many would suggest that 1988 01:40:18,320 --> 01:40:21,240 Speaker 4: their defense is better, and the other ratings would show that, 1989 01:40:21,720 --> 01:40:24,640 Speaker 4: but I would also tell you that the fact remains 1990 01:40:24,920 --> 01:40:28,160 Speaker 4: that without a legitimate threat, and I don't care if 1991 01:40:28,200 --> 01:40:30,400 Speaker 4: his blocks were down a year ago and he wasn't 1992 01:40:30,400 --> 01:40:32,920 Speaker 4: the same, and I am certainly not on the former 1993 01:40:33,000 --> 01:40:36,479 Speaker 4: thirty three now number three bendwagon in any sort of way, 1994 01:40:37,160 --> 01:40:42,639 Speaker 4: but his overall threat on both ends is incredibly missing. 1995 01:40:42,680 --> 01:40:45,080 Speaker 4: And even with the work that Tony Bradley has done, 1996 01:40:45,200 --> 01:40:48,840 Speaker 4: even with the defense percentage wise looking better, there is 1997 01:40:49,000 --> 01:40:53,120 Speaker 4: zero fear for anybody to drive and then to lay 1998 01:40:53,160 --> 01:40:55,320 Speaker 4: it up off the glass. And I would also remind 1999 01:40:55,360 --> 01:40:57,760 Speaker 4: people that one of the reasons why the defense could 2000 01:40:57,760 --> 01:40:59,519 Speaker 4: be better that nobody wants to hear is the fact 2001 01:40:59,520 --> 01:41:02,639 Speaker 4: that argue their worst defensive player is out for the season. 2002 01:41:03,720 --> 01:41:06,599 Speaker 6: That is I think true in part. 2003 01:41:07,280 --> 01:41:09,439 Speaker 4: Well, I hate I hate to bring it up that way, 2004 01:41:09,479 --> 01:41:11,080 Speaker 4: but that is the facts. 2005 01:41:11,400 --> 01:41:11,679 Speaker 5: Yeah. 2006 01:41:11,720 --> 01:41:15,000 Speaker 6: Well, I mean so Haliburn obviously has a massive plus 2007 01:41:15,040 --> 01:41:17,800 Speaker 6: impact on their offense, but I think him and Turner 2008 01:41:17,920 --> 01:41:19,920 Speaker 6: being gone I think was a bigger hit to their 2009 01:41:19,960 --> 01:41:21,800 Speaker 6: off I predicted before the season. I might have said 2010 01:41:21,800 --> 01:41:23,479 Speaker 6: it with you, I'd said it on my podcast a 2011 01:41:23,479 --> 01:41:25,679 Speaker 6: million times, but I thought they'd be better on defense 2012 01:41:25,680 --> 01:41:28,479 Speaker 6: than offense this year, but not like this, not like 2013 01:41:29,000 --> 01:41:32,559 Speaker 6: or they're like average on defense and just totally awful 2014 01:41:32,960 --> 01:41:35,320 Speaker 6: on offense. And last night it's like, how did this 2015 01:41:35,360 --> 01:41:37,200 Speaker 6: team even get to six teams on defense? Like they 2016 01:41:37,240 --> 01:41:39,760 Speaker 6: couldn't stop the jazz for a lake and they And 2017 01:41:40,240 --> 01:41:41,880 Speaker 6: the thing that made it weird last night too is 2018 01:41:41,880 --> 01:41:44,679 Speaker 6: like with McCall back, basically their whole rotation was guys 2019 01:41:44,680 --> 01:41:46,559 Speaker 6: that I'm like, yeah, that's a fine defensive player. Like 2020 01:41:46,760 --> 01:41:48,600 Speaker 6: did they play anyone who I think is terrible or 2021 01:41:48,600 --> 01:41:51,759 Speaker 6: bad on defense? Not really walkerom maybe being the worst 2022 01:41:51,760 --> 01:41:55,960 Speaker 6: of them this season. So it's just really strange that 2023 01:41:55,960 --> 01:41:57,720 Speaker 6: that that's the case. But I think you are right 2024 01:41:57,760 --> 01:42:01,639 Speaker 6: that the way that they have struggled with drives from 2025 01:42:01,680 --> 01:42:04,280 Speaker 6: other teams, like the Atlantic game that I mentioned earlier, 2026 01:42:04,920 --> 01:42:06,719 Speaker 6: that was the first game, I felt like their defense 2027 01:42:06,760 --> 01:42:09,960 Speaker 6: costs them. I mean, Dyson Daniels and Jalen Johnson just 2028 01:42:10,000 --> 01:42:12,320 Speaker 6: walked to the rim all night like easiest shots ever. 2029 01:42:12,600 --> 01:42:14,360 Speaker 6: The Jazz were getting to the cup all night last night. 2030 01:42:14,400 --> 01:42:16,240 Speaker 6: Their finishing was just okay, but they kicked it out 2031 01:42:16,240 --> 01:42:19,160 Speaker 6: for a million easy threes. You that's the kind of 2032 01:42:19,160 --> 01:42:21,800 Speaker 6: stuff that just kills you, right, And so they've got 2033 01:42:21,840 --> 01:42:24,120 Speaker 6: to figure that part out in some way, because if 2034 01:42:24,160 --> 01:42:25,800 Speaker 6: they're all been going to be at this level, they've 2035 01:42:25,800 --> 01:42:28,360 Speaker 6: got a guard and they haven't really been able to 2036 01:42:28,400 --> 01:42:31,040 Speaker 6: do that, and so I think their defense is probably 2037 01:42:31,600 --> 01:42:33,559 Speaker 6: much lower now after a list not I haven't actually 2038 01:42:33,600 --> 01:42:36,639 Speaker 6: looked at the advanced dets today. I'll check while we're talking, 2039 01:42:36,680 --> 01:42:40,120 Speaker 6: but it's just been shocking to see that kind of fall. 2040 01:42:40,560 --> 01:42:42,680 Speaker 6: And to answer my own question, they answered last night 2041 01:42:42,800 --> 01:42:45,840 Speaker 6: seventeenth in defensive rating. They are now twenty third. They 2042 01:42:45,840 --> 01:42:47,799 Speaker 6: lost six spots in one game, show. 2043 01:42:47,720 --> 01:42:51,519 Speaker 4: Man, that's absolutely brutal. What the info you need? Tony 2044 01:42:51,560 --> 01:42:54,439 Speaker 4: East is on the Java House Guess Line. This is 2045 01:42:54,479 --> 01:42:57,000 Speaker 4: Query and Company ninety three to five and one oh 2046 01:42:57,000 --> 01:42:59,920 Speaker 4: seven side the Fan JMVN for Jay Querry until my 2047 01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:01,919 Speaker 4: show starts coming up here at three o'clock. 2048 01:43:02,680 --> 01:43:04,760 Speaker 6: So when you start the DMV shows, just like Jake 2049 01:43:04,840 --> 01:43:06,479 Speaker 6: fill in for an hour. I know, he's fine. 2050 01:43:06,680 --> 01:43:10,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no, yeah, I'm a four hours out of 2051 01:43:10,080 --> 01:43:12,240 Speaker 4: our tour. It's like old school days for me. I'm 2052 01:43:12,240 --> 01:43:14,639 Speaker 4: going full four hours now. So yeah, it's all good. 2053 01:43:15,080 --> 01:43:17,760 Speaker 4: So yeah, I luckily I have enough left in the 2054 01:43:17,800 --> 01:43:20,280 Speaker 4: tank to be able to do that right here. I 2055 01:43:20,800 --> 01:43:23,439 Speaker 4: will say this, offensively, a lot of what we have 2056 01:43:23,520 --> 01:43:28,800 Speaker 4: witnessed I expect, and certainly with the decreasing availability of 2057 01:43:28,960 --> 01:43:33,040 Speaker 4: normal personnel, it stands the reason if you watch them, 2058 01:43:33,200 --> 01:43:37,439 Speaker 4: the one thing in the category of cohesion offensively that 2059 01:43:37,560 --> 01:43:41,160 Speaker 4: is missing with Tyreese Halliburton. I mean everything with Halliburton, 2060 01:43:41,320 --> 01:43:43,960 Speaker 4: no matter what really portion of the season was all 2061 01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:46,320 Speaker 4: everybody knew where they were going, the ball was going 2062 01:43:46,400 --> 01:43:48,840 Speaker 4: to be here and there, and it's not stuff you 2063 01:43:48,840 --> 01:43:51,720 Speaker 4: had to think about. These guys have to stop and 2064 01:43:51,840 --> 01:43:55,799 Speaker 4: think for like a click, and that just completely jacks 2065 01:43:55,880 --> 01:43:58,760 Speaker 4: up everything. Offensively. That's the one thing that stands out 2066 01:43:58,800 --> 01:44:01,960 Speaker 4: when you have to stop and think in the offense 2067 01:44:02,080 --> 01:44:04,160 Speaker 4: that they try to play at the pace in which 2068 01:44:04,240 --> 01:44:06,679 Speaker 4: they try to play, that food bars everything. 2069 01:44:07,840 --> 01:44:11,080 Speaker 6: That's why I think that their groups with you know, 2070 01:44:11,320 --> 01:44:13,439 Speaker 6: most of their starters from last year on the floor, 2071 01:44:13,479 --> 01:44:15,639 Speaker 6: Like when they can get Siaki Smith and them hard 2072 01:44:16,720 --> 01:44:19,720 Speaker 6: out there together with basically anyone else, they look the 2073 01:44:19,720 --> 01:44:23,000 Speaker 6: best because that group, even without tie, can play that way, 2074 01:44:23,040 --> 01:44:24,639 Speaker 6: like they don't think they know how to do it. 2075 01:44:24,760 --> 01:44:27,240 Speaker 6: They're all sharp, they all move the ball. And it's 2076 01:44:27,280 --> 01:44:30,719 Speaker 6: interesting because I think you've just kind of nailed half 2077 01:44:30,760 --> 01:44:33,800 Speaker 6: of my three about why this team has really struggled 2078 01:44:33,840 --> 01:44:35,679 Speaker 6: with offense this season. Like if you look at every 2079 01:44:35,800 --> 01:44:39,920 Speaker 6: underlying set about this Pacers team this year, right, their drives, 2080 01:44:40,200 --> 01:44:43,360 Speaker 6: their passes, like a million things all say that they 2081 01:44:43,360 --> 01:44:46,240 Speaker 6: should be about the same level of team as they 2082 01:44:46,240 --> 01:44:49,559 Speaker 6: were last year. Right, they're passing just as much, their 2083 01:44:49,640 --> 01:44:52,720 Speaker 6: drives are just as many. They just can't score at all, 2084 01:44:52,920 --> 01:44:55,160 Speaker 6: like at all. And I think one of the difference 2085 01:44:55,160 --> 01:44:58,280 Speaker 6: is obviously that they haven't made shots at like a lick. Right, 2086 01:44:58,400 --> 01:45:01,360 Speaker 6: nothing is going in the worst effective field goal percentage 2087 01:45:01,360 --> 01:45:03,559 Speaker 6: in the league. But the other part of it is, sure, 2088 01:45:03,560 --> 01:45:05,320 Speaker 6: they're doing all those things they were doing last year, 2089 01:45:05,320 --> 01:45:07,439 Speaker 6: but they're just doing it worse and slower. Right, They're 2090 01:45:07,479 --> 01:45:10,559 Speaker 6: not They're they're thinking for a beat, It's not as 2091 01:45:10,600 --> 01:45:12,599 Speaker 6: accurate as a pass, it's not at the same time, 2092 01:45:13,200 --> 01:45:15,880 Speaker 6: and all that just slowly over possession adds up to 2093 01:45:16,000 --> 01:45:18,559 Speaker 6: like a shot that last year was super open, this 2094 01:45:18,680 --> 01:45:20,360 Speaker 6: year is like kind of open. Or a shot that 2095 01:45:20,560 --> 01:45:22,600 Speaker 6: was right at the basket last year is like a 2096 01:45:22,680 --> 01:45:24,960 Speaker 6: five foot or this year like shots that can go 2097 01:45:25,040 --> 01:45:27,519 Speaker 6: in and the pacers would tell you should be going in, 2098 01:45:27,640 --> 01:45:30,160 Speaker 6: but they're not. They're just not. And so some of 2099 01:45:30,200 --> 01:45:31,600 Speaker 6: it to that. Some of it how much time it 2100 01:45:31,680 --> 01:45:33,360 Speaker 6: I'll take. Some of it is who is available. Some 2101 01:45:33,400 --> 01:45:36,240 Speaker 6: of it's that everybody's moved up or down or sideways 2102 01:45:36,240 --> 01:45:38,200 Speaker 6: in the pecking order, whatever you want to say. But 2103 01:45:38,240 --> 01:45:40,479 Speaker 6: I like Jared's last night was thinking a lot, right 2104 01:45:40,520 --> 01:45:42,840 Speaker 6: Ben Shephard, Sometimes he never thinks that dude used to 2105 01:45:42,880 --> 01:45:44,880 Speaker 6: just get up the ball. Even he's thinking a little 2106 01:45:44,920 --> 01:45:46,519 Speaker 6: bit like they have a lot of guys just taking 2107 01:45:46,520 --> 01:45:49,120 Speaker 6: a beat, and their guy who doesn't take a beat, Siakam. 2108 01:45:49,439 --> 01:45:51,120 Speaker 6: He gets it. He turns around, he tries to make 2109 01:45:51,160 --> 01:45:53,240 Speaker 6: his move and there's four defenders within six feet at 2110 01:45:53,280 --> 01:45:55,960 Speaker 6: them immediately. It's just really hard to function when that's 2111 01:45:56,000 --> 01:45:57,720 Speaker 6: your team and that's your situation. 2112 01:45:59,479 --> 01:46:03,760 Speaker 4: Is and he just reacts. He's better, but that's not 2113 01:46:03,920 --> 01:46:07,360 Speaker 4: nearly enough. He has to stop and think, he thinks 2114 01:46:07,360 --> 01:46:09,840 Speaker 4: about a move to make, he thinks about where he's 2115 01:46:09,840 --> 01:46:12,599 Speaker 4: going to get in his comfort zone. And see, that's 2116 01:46:12,600 --> 01:46:15,639 Speaker 4: the difference to me, Tony, because that's all taken care 2117 01:46:15,680 --> 01:46:18,080 Speaker 4: of with with Tyreese Haliburton out there. I mean, he 2118 01:46:18,160 --> 01:46:20,519 Speaker 4: knows you you're going to be in your comfort area. 2119 01:46:20,760 --> 01:46:23,040 Speaker 4: He's going to get you the ball. And here these 2120 01:46:23,040 --> 01:46:24,800 Speaker 4: guys are trying to make this up on the fly 2121 01:46:24,960 --> 01:46:26,760 Speaker 4: on their own, and a guy like Jaris Walker is 2122 01:46:26,800 --> 01:46:27,439 Speaker 4: not built for that. 2123 01:46:28,439 --> 01:46:30,879 Speaker 6: So I think you just kind of nailed the Jariffs experience. 2124 01:46:30,960 --> 01:46:33,840 Speaker 6: Because Kylen Cooper praised us really well, you can like 2125 01:46:34,080 --> 01:46:36,599 Speaker 6: Jarif's so far this season. I'd say his best moments 2126 01:46:36,640 --> 01:46:38,800 Speaker 6: offensively has been when he's right in the middle of 2127 01:46:38,840 --> 01:46:40,800 Speaker 6: a zone. Right like other teams in zone, they put 2128 01:46:40,840 --> 01:46:43,479 Speaker 6: Jaris in the middle. So when he catches, his job 2129 01:46:43,600 --> 01:46:45,479 Speaker 6: is to play make or shoot, and he's already kind 2130 01:46:45,479 --> 01:46:47,240 Speaker 6: of open just because of the way the defense is. 2131 01:46:47,520 --> 01:46:49,160 Speaker 6: And so what that tells you is the same thing 2132 01:46:49,200 --> 01:46:51,519 Speaker 6: we've kind of seen from him even against Manda Man 2133 01:46:51,520 --> 01:46:55,120 Speaker 6: it's all cleer is that when someone else, not Jaris Walker, 2134 01:46:55,160 --> 01:46:57,720 Speaker 6: creates an advantage of point guards yaka whatever, and they 2135 01:46:57,800 --> 01:47:01,040 Speaker 6: pass it to Jari's He's very good at taking space 2136 01:47:01,080 --> 01:47:03,000 Speaker 6: in front of him or shooting quickly and keeping the 2137 01:47:03,040 --> 01:47:05,640 Speaker 6: advantage alive. Right, that's a good skill to have, and 2138 01:47:05,680 --> 01:47:07,760 Speaker 6: he's a decent patcher for somebody of his size. But 2139 01:47:07,800 --> 01:47:09,519 Speaker 6: when he is the guy who has to actually create 2140 01:47:09,560 --> 01:47:12,400 Speaker 6: that advantage himself by beating someone off the dribbler or 2141 01:47:12,400 --> 01:47:14,519 Speaker 6: creating a little space for a jumper or whatever, he 2142 01:47:14,600 --> 01:47:16,799 Speaker 6: is not as good at that. And I think recently, 2143 01:47:16,840 --> 01:47:19,280 Speaker 6: especially how many point guards they've had out, they've tried 2144 01:47:19,280 --> 01:47:21,639 Speaker 6: at times to be like, okay, trial by fire, Jaris 2145 01:47:21,640 --> 01:47:23,960 Speaker 6: create something for us, and some of those possessions don't 2146 01:47:23,960 --> 01:47:27,080 Speaker 6: look particularly good, and that's fine, that's how development works. 2147 01:47:27,120 --> 01:47:30,280 Speaker 6: But it looks like he was really really rough on 2148 01:47:30,320 --> 01:47:32,639 Speaker 6: Sunday against Golden State, right like probably his worst game 2149 01:47:32,640 --> 01:47:35,120 Speaker 6: in years. And then they move him to the bench 2150 01:47:35,160 --> 01:47:38,080 Speaker 6: where he's playing with McConnell, and they used Siakam in 2151 01:47:38,120 --> 01:47:40,200 Speaker 6: that second unit stin every game. It's like, okay, there's 2152 01:47:40,240 --> 01:47:43,479 Speaker 6: two creators around him. Maybe that'll help him a little zippier. 2153 01:47:43,680 --> 01:47:45,519 Speaker 6: And he was still thinking a bunch last night, and 2154 01:47:45,560 --> 01:47:47,120 Speaker 6: so he drew a bunch of fouls and got to 2155 01:47:47,160 --> 01:47:48,320 Speaker 6: the line. I don't think he was as bad as 2156 01:47:48,360 --> 01:47:50,839 Speaker 6: the stats really say, but he still kind of struggled 2157 01:47:50,880 --> 01:47:52,719 Speaker 6: because I think he was thinking after a bad game. 2158 01:47:52,920 --> 01:47:55,479 Speaker 6: I don't know how you just get him to relax. 2159 01:47:55,600 --> 01:47:57,360 Speaker 6: I honestly think that's the best way to put it, 2160 01:47:57,400 --> 01:47:59,800 Speaker 6: because if he just like plays on instinct, he's much 2161 01:47:59,800 --> 01:48:02,200 Speaker 6: better better. But he's kind of been pigeonholed into a 2162 01:48:02,280 --> 01:48:05,040 Speaker 6: role that's kind of above what he should be, and unfortunately, 2163 01:48:05,040 --> 01:48:07,200 Speaker 6: from a development perspective, like, yeah, it's good that he's 2164 01:48:07,240 --> 01:48:09,519 Speaker 6: doing it, but it hasn't looked very good yet at all. 2165 01:48:09,800 --> 01:48:12,000 Speaker 4: So Tony East, he's on the Java house guess a 2166 01:48:12,040 --> 01:48:14,200 Speaker 4: line ninety three five one oh seven by the fan, 2167 01:48:14,400 --> 01:48:16,599 Speaker 4: you get any timetable at all, and you feel from 2168 01:48:16,640 --> 01:48:19,840 Speaker 4: when we may see a re emergence of Benanick Mathery. 2169 01:48:20,760 --> 01:48:22,680 Speaker 6: Great, Well, we'll find out actually in a couple of 2170 01:48:22,720 --> 01:48:25,360 Speaker 6: days a little bit on what is possible with him. 2171 01:48:26,040 --> 01:48:28,080 Speaker 6: I think he's progressing pretty well, at least that's the 2172 01:48:28,320 --> 01:48:31,800 Speaker 6: sense I've gotten, which is good. Their hardship situation will 2173 01:48:31,800 --> 01:48:34,360 Speaker 6: tell us, all right, if they're able to sign Cody 2174 01:48:34,400 --> 01:48:37,240 Speaker 6: Martin again or another player on Saturday, I bet leaves 2175 01:48:37,240 --> 01:48:39,800 Speaker 6: the day his deal expires. That means Matheren's probably out 2176 01:48:39,840 --> 01:48:42,400 Speaker 6: for a couple more weeks. If they are not suing 2177 01:48:42,479 --> 01:48:44,840 Speaker 6: him or anybody to another heartshe deal, that that means 2178 01:48:44,840 --> 01:48:48,080 Speaker 6: they are only which is hilarious to say, only down 2179 01:48:48,120 --> 01:48:50,160 Speaker 6: to four injured players, and that would be Matheren is 2180 01:48:50,160 --> 01:48:52,679 Speaker 6: probably closer to a return. He was weak to week 2181 01:48:52,760 --> 01:48:54,920 Speaker 6: as of two weeks ago. Last week, when we asked, 2182 01:48:55,080 --> 01:48:58,000 Speaker 6: Carlisle said he was progressing well and doing better than 2183 01:48:58,000 --> 01:48:59,960 Speaker 6: he was a week ago, which is an up date 2184 01:49:00,120 --> 01:49:01,799 Speaker 6: but not an update. At the same time, I believe 2185 01:49:02,080 --> 01:49:04,280 Speaker 6: the next week of the week two week update would 2186 01:49:04,320 --> 01:49:06,920 Speaker 6: be today. Actually I don't think they're going to practice today, 2187 01:49:06,920 --> 01:49:09,200 Speaker 6: who knows, So perhaps tomorrow we learn a little bit 2188 01:49:09,200 --> 01:49:12,160 Speaker 6: more because that would be a day of asking again, 2189 01:49:12,200 --> 01:49:13,760 Speaker 6: and so we'll see in Phoenix if we learn more. 2190 01:49:13,800 --> 01:49:17,400 Speaker 6: But my suspicion, and this is just that a suspicion, 2191 01:49:17,840 --> 01:49:20,599 Speaker 6: is that it's possible that he could return, not super 2192 01:49:20,640 --> 01:49:22,640 Speaker 6: far off. But I don't truly know that or know 2193 01:49:22,680 --> 01:49:23,760 Speaker 6: the timeline perfectly to know. 2194 01:49:24,000 --> 01:49:26,719 Speaker 4: Do you see a timetable or a moment this season? 2195 01:49:26,840 --> 01:49:29,719 Speaker 4: If things continue to go in the fashion in which 2196 01:49:30,160 --> 01:49:32,599 Speaker 4: certainly if they go in this fashion, but if they 2197 01:49:32,600 --> 01:49:35,400 Speaker 4: continue to go down this path, that they decide to 2198 01:49:35,400 --> 01:49:37,040 Speaker 4: go ahead and try to prepare a little bit more 2199 01:49:37,080 --> 01:49:39,479 Speaker 4: for next year and maybe some deals that they can 2200 01:49:39,520 --> 01:49:42,360 Speaker 4: feel benefit them, you know, not so much in the now, 2201 01:49:42,439 --> 01:49:43,840 Speaker 4: but certainly further down the road. 2202 01:49:44,880 --> 01:49:48,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, I've talked a couple times about this. So one, 2203 01:49:48,880 --> 01:49:51,800 Speaker 6: they're about to start like a softer stretch of schedule, right, 2204 01:49:51,840 --> 01:49:53,640 Speaker 6: Their first ten games are tough, and then they have 2205 01:49:53,640 --> 01:49:56,720 Speaker 6: to Dewtap Phoenix two games to end this West road trip. 2206 01:49:56,880 --> 01:49:59,880 Speaker 6: Seven of their fifteen West Road games are already done 2207 01:50:00,040 --> 01:50:04,559 Speaker 6: after tomorrow, which is crazy. It fell played twelve games 2208 01:50:05,200 --> 01:50:07,320 Speaker 6: at the end of November, right, their schedule is not 2209 01:50:07,479 --> 01:50:09,000 Speaker 6: as hard for the rest of the month. Like, if 2210 01:50:09,000 --> 01:50:12,000 Speaker 6: they can't find some footing throughout November, that will be 2211 01:50:12,040 --> 01:50:15,160 Speaker 6: one sign. But honestly, like, it's kind of nice the 2212 01:50:15,160 --> 01:50:17,280 Speaker 6: way the NBA has set this all up. Think back 2213 01:50:17,320 --> 01:50:19,280 Speaker 6: to last year jamb when did they turn it around. 2214 01:50:19,320 --> 01:50:21,800 Speaker 6: They had that gap of time where they could practice 2215 01:50:22,040 --> 01:50:24,040 Speaker 6: during the n season tournament break. Remember that. 2216 01:50:24,200 --> 01:50:28,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, the last bad game was I remember this December 2217 01:50:28,320 --> 01:50:31,000 Speaker 4: the ninth, at home on a Sunday against Charlotte, and 2218 01:50:31,040 --> 01:50:33,599 Speaker 4: it was an absolute disaster, kind of like I ripped 2219 01:50:33,600 --> 01:50:36,880 Speaker 4: the ass like I am right now, yes, yes, And. 2220 01:50:36,800 --> 01:50:38,840 Speaker 6: Then you know, they got a little healthy at that 2221 01:50:38,840 --> 01:50:40,760 Speaker 6: time too, obviously, which is fitting because they've been so 2222 01:50:40,840 --> 01:50:43,080 Speaker 6: hurt this season. But they came into that break and 2223 01:50:43,120 --> 01:50:44,960 Speaker 6: they played Philly and they played New Orleans and they 2224 01:50:45,000 --> 01:50:46,719 Speaker 6: destroyed both of them, and then all of a sudden, 2225 01:50:46,720 --> 01:50:48,639 Speaker 6: they were like the fourth best team in the NBA 2226 01:50:48,760 --> 01:50:50,439 Speaker 6: or something by a record the rest of the season. 2227 01:50:50,479 --> 01:50:52,920 Speaker 6: And not saying they should expect that level turnaround about 2228 01:50:52,920 --> 01:50:56,720 Speaker 6: Halburn this year, but that break is a good assessment time, right, 2229 01:50:56,880 --> 01:50:59,439 Speaker 6: So let's see what their record is then. I think 2230 01:50:59,439 --> 01:51:01,439 Speaker 6: they played it through the ninth again for their last 2231 01:51:01,439 --> 01:51:04,280 Speaker 6: game before that. If their record's super awful, then and 2232 01:51:04,400 --> 01:51:06,800 Speaker 6: like the fitting thing with the NBA calendar now is 2233 01:51:07,080 --> 01:51:09,920 Speaker 6: the end season tournament ends. It's December fifteenth, right then, 2234 01:51:09,960 --> 01:51:11,360 Speaker 6: and that's when a lot of players signed in the 2235 01:51:11,400 --> 01:51:14,160 Speaker 6: offseason can get traded. If you'll remember last year, that's 2236 01:51:14,160 --> 01:51:16,240 Speaker 6: the day they traded for Thomas Bryant was the first 2237 01:51:16,280 --> 01:51:18,479 Speaker 6: day they legally could. So it just kind of works 2238 01:51:18,479 --> 01:51:20,880 Speaker 6: out that you can really assess your team when you 2239 01:51:20,920 --> 01:51:23,160 Speaker 6: have all this time off and you can see like 2240 01:51:23,520 --> 01:51:26,559 Speaker 6: what is materializing for your team. So that's a good 2241 01:51:26,560 --> 01:51:28,960 Speaker 6: time to start assessing the facers. And truly, if they 2242 01:51:29,080 --> 01:51:31,000 Speaker 6: if it's like last year, they start to get healthy, 2243 01:51:31,080 --> 01:51:33,360 Speaker 6: then maybe see how they play the rest of December. 2244 01:51:33,400 --> 01:51:35,200 Speaker 6: I'm not saying they're gonna like turn it around to 2245 01:51:35,200 --> 01:51:37,000 Speaker 6: the point that we're talking about them making the playoffs 2246 01:51:37,080 --> 01:51:40,040 Speaker 6: or anything, like. Their records already so bad that that 2247 01:51:40,160 --> 01:51:42,160 Speaker 6: might not ever be on the table this year. But 2248 01:51:42,400 --> 01:51:44,240 Speaker 6: at least they can see, like, was the proof of 2249 01:51:44,280 --> 01:51:46,920 Speaker 6: concept of this team actually possible, and then they can 2250 01:51:46,920 --> 01:51:49,160 Speaker 6: figure out what moves they had to make. But I'll 2251 01:51:49,160 --> 01:51:51,200 Speaker 6: tell you now, I'm gonna be telling you this for months. 2252 01:51:51,400 --> 01:51:53,599 Speaker 6: There's gonna be a lot of talk about trades and 2253 01:51:53,640 --> 01:51:56,320 Speaker 6: selling and whatever. If their records this bad, they should 2254 01:51:56,360 --> 01:51:59,200 Speaker 6: not consider themselves sellers. They should consider themselves in a 2255 01:51:59,200 --> 01:52:03,160 Speaker 6: position to get the talent around a Tyrese halivert following yes, 2256 01:52:03,479 --> 01:52:06,240 Speaker 6: which is which is? Which is gonna feel really weird 2257 01:52:06,320 --> 01:52:08,679 Speaker 6: if their record is still bad that they might even 2258 01:52:08,680 --> 01:52:09,200 Speaker 6: be buyers. 2259 01:52:09,280 --> 01:52:09,400 Speaker 5: Right. 2260 01:52:09,439 --> 01:52:11,120 Speaker 6: If they can get a good young player, they should 2261 01:52:11,120 --> 01:52:12,800 Speaker 6: do it. But that's what they had to think about 2262 01:52:12,840 --> 01:52:15,439 Speaker 6: they're just in such a unique position given their record 2263 01:52:15,439 --> 01:52:17,800 Speaker 6: and situations, like they were half a game from the 2264 01:52:17,800 --> 01:52:19,439 Speaker 6: final the last year, why would they get rid of 2265 01:52:19,479 --> 01:52:22,519 Speaker 6: any player who was critical to that operation. So it's 2266 01:52:22,520 --> 01:52:24,799 Speaker 6: just gonna be a really weird year of assessing their. 2267 01:52:24,640 --> 01:52:27,280 Speaker 4: Team that is, And a lot of that is pointing 2268 01:52:27,280 --> 01:52:30,200 Speaker 4: the finger at Pascal Siakam because people look at his age, 2269 01:52:30,200 --> 01:52:31,960 Speaker 4: they go, well, you know what, he needed it, but yes, 2270 01:52:32,200 --> 01:52:34,960 Speaker 4: he was an essential reason as to why, yes. 2271 01:52:35,040 --> 01:52:35,559 Speaker 3: He was there. 2272 01:52:35,600 --> 01:52:38,599 Speaker 6: Awesome, Yeah, he's the top twenty to twenty five care 2273 01:52:38,680 --> 01:52:40,479 Speaker 6: in the league and everyone's so you're gonna hear a 2274 01:52:40,520 --> 01:52:42,200 Speaker 6: lot of like, oh, they should trade him. They stayed 2275 01:52:42,280 --> 01:52:44,160 Speaker 6: like why how are they going to get a player 2276 01:52:44,160 --> 01:52:46,800 Speaker 6: as good as Siakam if they trade away Siakam? Like it, 2277 01:52:47,240 --> 01:52:49,320 Speaker 6: you know, And it's like, I hate to say this, 2278 01:52:49,439 --> 01:52:51,120 Speaker 6: but if you're a good player on the Pacers this 2279 01:52:51,200 --> 01:52:53,680 Speaker 6: year who was central their function last year, this year 2280 01:52:53,720 --> 01:52:55,960 Speaker 6: probably sucks, right, Like, you thought you'd be better, You're 2281 01:52:55,960 --> 01:52:58,400 Speaker 6: a good player, you expected to win more. Siakam chief 2282 01:52:58,439 --> 01:53:00,479 Speaker 6: among it like it's gonna suck, It's gonna hurt. But 2283 01:53:00,640 --> 01:53:03,360 Speaker 6: at least they know or should know that next year 2284 01:53:03,439 --> 01:53:07,560 Speaker 6: will instantly be better, and so that brings more happiness 2285 01:53:07,560 --> 01:53:10,000 Speaker 6: to the situation in Sunshine, but it will make their 2286 01:53:10,040 --> 01:53:13,160 Speaker 6: trade situation just very kind of weird to talk about. 2287 01:53:13,400 --> 01:53:15,320 Speaker 6: It'll be way different than usual bad teams. 2288 01:53:15,560 --> 01:53:17,720 Speaker 4: So here's how we really know we live in the 2289 01:53:17,720 --> 01:53:21,080 Speaker 4: bizarre world with the paces right now, is they unveil 2290 01:53:21,160 --> 01:53:24,120 Speaker 4: those awesome ass new uniforms last night and give up 2291 01:53:24,800 --> 01:53:28,240 Speaker 4: fifty two and get embarrassed in the fashion of which 2292 01:53:28,320 --> 01:53:32,120 Speaker 4: they did. Why couldn't you do that alongside that ridiculous 2293 01:53:32,240 --> 01:53:34,639 Speaker 4: yes sir slogan and then it would all make sense. 2294 01:53:34,960 --> 01:53:37,200 Speaker 4: You could have sucked with it, got rid, And now 2295 01:53:37,200 --> 01:53:39,639 Speaker 4: they're probably going to get rid of these uniforms because 2296 01:53:39,680 --> 01:53:42,160 Speaker 4: that taste in the mouth is one they're not. But 2297 01:53:42,240 --> 01:53:44,920 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, The bizarre world means we 2298 01:53:44,920 --> 01:53:48,280 Speaker 4: should embrace those uniforms and not yes, sirs. But in 2299 01:53:48,320 --> 01:53:51,200 Speaker 4: this sense we embrace yes sirs and not to these uniforms. 2300 01:53:51,240 --> 01:53:52,720 Speaker 4: It just doesn't make sense to me. 2301 01:53:53,600 --> 01:53:53,920 Speaker 5: I know. 2302 01:53:54,000 --> 01:53:56,720 Speaker 6: I still think of like certain alternate uniforms with like 2303 01:53:56,760 --> 01:53:59,680 Speaker 6: moments in time, like the red Hickory jerseys with the 2304 01:53:59,760 --> 01:54:04,360 Speaker 6: end Paul George and the Victor Oladipo injury season with 2305 01:54:04,439 --> 01:54:06,240 Speaker 6: that jersey that year. Like, it's just how it is 2306 01:54:06,280 --> 01:54:08,400 Speaker 6: for me. I wonder if fans are the same way, 2307 01:54:09,120 --> 01:54:11,360 Speaker 6: And I wonder how these jerseys, which are awesome, this 2308 01:54:11,439 --> 01:54:14,280 Speaker 6: branding and the court looks really good too, is awesome, 2309 01:54:14,320 --> 01:54:16,519 Speaker 6: but if the team doesn't win very much, like how 2310 01:54:16,560 --> 01:54:19,799 Speaker 6: our fans is going to remember the Matrix Moments jersey 2311 01:54:19,800 --> 01:54:20,960 Speaker 6: because they are awesome. 2312 01:54:21,320 --> 01:54:24,880 Speaker 4: I love the Decades remix, but evidently we're more like 2313 01:54:24,960 --> 01:54:28,080 Speaker 4: in nineteen eighty five or something like that, when the 2314 01:54:28,120 --> 01:54:31,519 Speaker 4: black curtain comes down at Old Marcus Square Arena. That's 2315 01:54:31,600 --> 01:54:34,720 Speaker 4: kind of where we are located right now. Hey, really quick, 2316 01:54:34,760 --> 01:54:36,840 Speaker 4: before I had a break here with you, one final thing? 2317 01:54:37,240 --> 01:54:39,720 Speaker 4: Do you believe and believe? I'm done with him? And 2318 01:54:39,760 --> 01:54:43,080 Speaker 4: I don't really care, but people were asking me, I think, 2319 01:54:43,240 --> 01:54:46,560 Speaker 4: just a threat alone offensively and defensively. They miss Miles 2320 01:54:46,680 --> 01:54:49,720 Speaker 4: because even with Tony Bradley playing well, you don't have 2321 01:54:49,880 --> 01:54:52,480 Speaker 4: that threat there at all. Nobody really pays attention. Do 2322 01:54:52,520 --> 01:54:53,880 Speaker 4: they miss him? 2323 01:54:54,080 --> 01:54:54,320 Speaker 5: Yeah? 2324 01:54:54,320 --> 01:54:56,200 Speaker 6: I mean certainly so. For the first of all, I 2325 01:54:56,200 --> 01:54:59,480 Speaker 6: gotta give myself a hand of JAMV because I actually 2326 01:54:59,480 --> 01:55:01,120 Speaker 6: thought a a lot of the stuff he was saying 2327 01:55:01,560 --> 01:55:03,960 Speaker 6: in the off season was being a little misconstrued. I 2328 01:55:04,040 --> 01:55:05,960 Speaker 6: thought at the time. I was like, yeah, this is all. 2329 01:55:06,000 --> 01:55:08,120 Speaker 6: This all seems very just like he likes the Bucks, 2330 01:55:08,400 --> 01:55:10,600 Speaker 6: and people are taking it as shots at Theeters. But 2331 01:55:10,640 --> 01:55:13,280 Speaker 6: then they played the game and he did the the 2332 01:55:13,800 --> 01:55:16,400 Speaker 6: oh they I took discounts, No you didn't. And then 2333 01:55:16,400 --> 01:55:18,760 Speaker 6: he posted that Formula one car all crumpled up and 2334 01:55:18,800 --> 01:55:20,800 Speaker 6: he said the yellow court thing, and I'm like, okay, 2335 01:55:20,840 --> 01:55:23,960 Speaker 6: never mind, Like I was just wrong. Apparently this actually 2336 01:55:24,080 --> 01:55:26,840 Speaker 6: was just all straight up shots at the Pacers, which is. 2337 01:55:26,880 --> 01:55:30,240 Speaker 4: Well, he doesn't like Prichard and Buchanan, he didn't like 2338 01:55:30,280 --> 01:55:32,160 Speaker 4: the front and all along. If you would have said, man, 2339 01:55:32,240 --> 01:55:34,400 Speaker 4: the front office holds me, I'm mad at them. But 2340 01:55:34,680 --> 01:55:36,560 Speaker 4: I mean it made it seem like that it was 2341 01:55:36,600 --> 01:55:38,920 Speaker 4: a player thing and nobody around here was going to 2342 01:55:39,040 --> 01:55:40,640 Speaker 4: accept that at all. 2343 01:55:40,840 --> 01:55:42,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, so I got to put my hand up on 2344 01:55:42,720 --> 01:55:44,760 Speaker 6: that obviously. But yes, they miss him, Like I talked 2345 01:55:44,760 --> 01:55:46,920 Speaker 6: to you about this, I forget the first time we talked. 2346 01:55:46,920 --> 01:55:47,280 Speaker 1: This season. 2347 01:55:47,320 --> 01:55:49,120 Speaker 6: We talked many times, which is great, but you know, 2348 01:55:49,240 --> 01:55:52,720 Speaker 6: like just beyond the shooting, which is obviously something they're missing, 2349 01:55:52,760 --> 01:55:54,480 Speaker 6: and Jay Huff has just got to make the reason 2350 01:55:54,480 --> 01:55:57,640 Speaker 6: at some point, like Miles was so good at moving 2351 01:55:57,680 --> 01:55:59,840 Speaker 6: the ball side to side quickly. He made a quick 2352 01:55:59,840 --> 01:56:02,200 Speaker 6: decision at the top of the key, and we talked 2353 01:56:02,240 --> 01:56:04,680 Speaker 6: about how people are thinking on this team. He got 2354 01:56:04,760 --> 01:56:06,600 Speaker 6: very confident in his role and he made the right 2355 01:56:06,640 --> 01:56:08,240 Speaker 6: decision to swing it, to go back to the guy 2356 01:56:08,240 --> 01:56:09,960 Speaker 6: who passed it soon with a handoff, or to shoot. 2357 01:56:10,160 --> 01:56:12,040 Speaker 6: And you just don't really see that with this group 2358 01:56:12,080 --> 01:56:15,080 Speaker 6: that much. With Isaiah, with Tony Bradley, with Jay Huff 2359 01:56:15,080 --> 01:56:16,760 Speaker 6: at the top of the key, their decisions either take 2360 01:56:16,800 --> 01:56:18,520 Speaker 6: a second or it's not right, or it's not as 2361 01:56:18,640 --> 01:56:20,680 Speaker 6: it's not as quick. It's just not the same. And 2362 01:56:20,720 --> 01:56:22,640 Speaker 6: that's on top of the defensive side of the ball, 2363 01:56:22,680 --> 01:56:25,440 Speaker 6: where obviously Turner was a very good MOVI his feed 2364 01:56:25,480 --> 01:56:27,680 Speaker 6: block shots guy at the baskute who had some limitations, 2365 01:56:27,760 --> 01:56:30,880 Speaker 6: so they definitely met him. And you know, like we 2366 01:56:31,160 --> 01:56:33,280 Speaker 6: all knew going into season they'd be missing two starters 2367 01:56:33,280 --> 01:56:35,040 Speaker 6: from last season, it ended up being much more than that. 2368 01:56:35,040 --> 01:56:37,200 Speaker 6: Without Drew and a bunch of other guys. You're seeing 2369 01:56:37,280 --> 01:56:39,440 Speaker 6: what they what they have lost without Miles, and they 2370 01:56:39,480 --> 01:56:41,400 Speaker 6: still probably need to find their center in the future. 2371 01:56:41,440 --> 01:56:43,240 Speaker 6: And the rest of them are trying out for rolls 2372 01:56:43,240 --> 01:56:43,840 Speaker 6: two and three. 2373 01:56:43,920 --> 01:56:47,240 Speaker 4: That is Tony East of Forbes Sports and needs to 2374 01:56:47,240 --> 01:56:50,480 Speaker 4: be riding for a variety of places because he is 2375 01:56:50,520 --> 01:56:52,800 Speaker 4: really good. We thank him for joining us Squaring Company 2376 01:56:52,800 --> 01:56:55,240 Speaker 4: on the Java House guest Line ninety three to five 2377 01:56:55,240 --> 01:56:57,680 Speaker 4: and one oh seven five the fan, Tony, I appreciate that. 2378 01:56:57,800 --> 01:56:59,800 Speaker 4: I know we were both up late last night watching 2379 01:56:59,800 --> 01:57:02,960 Speaker 4: that mess. We'll see what happens tomorrow or not in Phoenix, brother, 2380 01:57:03,040 --> 01:57:03,400 Speaker 4: thank you. 2381 01:57:04,280 --> 01:57:06,440 Speaker 6: I appreciate it being on Queer and Company. 2382 01:57:06,120 --> 01:57:09,440 Speaker 4: With no query and no comm Thanks man, I appreciate you, Tony. 2383 01:57:09,480 --> 01:57:14,880 Speaker 4: Thanks Tony East. On the Java House guest line, Eddie 2384 01:57:14,920 --> 01:57:16,640 Speaker 4: had to run the board last night. How late were 2385 01:57:16,640 --> 01:57:19,560 Speaker 4: you in here for that crap? Twelve more sucked? I 2386 01:57:19,640 --> 01:57:21,960 Speaker 4: sent a text to kristin Eira early early this morning. 2387 01:57:22,000 --> 01:57:27,000 Speaker 4: I said, that was complete, BS, and that's exactly what 2388 01:57:27,040 --> 01:57:28,760 Speaker 4: it was. I don't care what personnel you have that 2389 01:57:28,880 --> 01:57:30,320 Speaker 4: out there. I don't care where it is on a 2390 01:57:30,400 --> 01:57:33,320 Speaker 4: road trip. I don't care what is is thought you 2391 01:57:33,360 --> 01:57:35,080 Speaker 4: were going to be. I don't care if you're a 2392 01:57:35,120 --> 01:57:41,640 Speaker 4: one win team. That was complete, BS, and I mean 2393 01:57:42,960 --> 01:57:47,520 Speaker 4: it was a half asso. They gave up to a 2394 01:57:47,640 --> 01:57:53,320 Speaker 4: crappy team, so that we accept all this other stuff 2395 01:57:53,480 --> 01:57:55,080 Speaker 4: and give it a pard and give it a pass. 2396 01:57:55,160 --> 01:57:57,000 Speaker 4: But I'm not giving that a part nor a pass. 2397 01:57:57,120 --> 01:58:00,520 Speaker 4: That was a joke. Quick break. We'll come back with you. 2398 01:58:00,960 --> 01:58:03,960 Speaker 4: Quarry in Company and the Java House guest line always 2399 01:58:04,000 --> 01:58:06,320 Speaker 4: active right here. We've got your calls at two three 2400 01:58:06,440 --> 01:58:09,280 Speaker 4: nine ten seventy and the text line is open three 2401 01:58:09,280 --> 01:58:11,880 Speaker 4: point seven two three nine ten seventy. It's Quary in 2402 01:58:11,960 --> 01:58:13,800 Speaker 4: Company ninety three to five and one oh seven five 2403 01:58:13,800 --> 01:58:18,680 Speaker 4: the Fan, the late great voice of Dolores o'reardon at 2404 01:58:18,720 --> 01:58:21,760 Speaker 4: a lead for the Cranberrys. Nothing but the nineties coming 2405 01:58:21,840 --> 01:58:24,280 Speaker 4: up on Saturday Night to j MV takeover the second 2406 01:58:24,360 --> 01:58:27,240 Speaker 4: to last by the way, too have two more and 2407 01:58:27,280 --> 01:58:30,360 Speaker 4: then the Christmas Music hiatus, which means when b one 2408 01:58:30,400 --> 01:58:33,520 Speaker 4: oz five point seven goes to full time Christmas music, 2409 01:58:33,800 --> 01:58:37,680 Speaker 4: I get the hell out of Dodge. I'm done. I 2410 01:58:37,720 --> 01:58:42,400 Speaker 4: am done until New Year's Eve and season six is 2411 01:58:42,440 --> 01:58:48,720 Speaker 4: on the inbound. Brian Nubert of Gold and Black has 2412 01:58:48,800 --> 01:58:51,320 Speaker 4: this quote from Trey Kaufman Wren, as you know the 2413 01:58:51,320 --> 01:58:56,920 Speaker 4: boiler Maker's Alabama Tomorrow night, Bobby Bucket's gonna join me 2414 01:58:58,000 --> 01:59:02,040 Speaker 4: coming up here, once my show begins three o'clock and 2415 01:59:02,120 --> 01:59:04,360 Speaker 4: again I'm meant for j Querry on Query and Company. 2416 01:59:04,440 --> 01:59:06,200 Speaker 4: Jake had to bail a little bit early to catch 2417 01:59:06,200 --> 01:59:09,360 Speaker 4: a flight to go on vacation, and it was cool 2418 01:59:09,360 --> 01:59:10,800 Speaker 4: for me to come in and be a part of this. 2419 01:59:10,840 --> 01:59:13,680 Speaker 4: And Tony Eastis joined us podcast at one oh seven 2420 01:59:13,760 --> 01:59:16,600 Speaker 4: five thefan dot Com with a lot of the embarrassment 2421 01:59:16,640 --> 01:59:19,200 Speaker 4: that was giving up one five to two in Salt 2422 01:59:19,280 --> 01:59:24,640 Speaker 4: Lake City last night. It was embarrassing. Now yes here 2423 01:59:24,680 --> 01:59:28,360 Speaker 4: you're asking. Aurora Borealis came off the bench for the 2424 01:59:28,440 --> 01:59:33,680 Speaker 4: Jazz to score fifteen, and no, I did not see 2425 01:59:34,600 --> 01:59:38,840 Speaker 4: the Northern Lights. I was playing a little pickup basketball 2426 01:59:38,960 --> 01:59:41,960 Speaker 4: last night at Sinegrove in the West Gym, which is 2427 01:59:42,000 --> 01:59:44,800 Speaker 4: the dirtiest floor of all time. Can somebody leave maybe 2428 01:59:44,840 --> 01:59:47,200 Speaker 4: a mop or a broom or something over there, and 2429 01:59:47,280 --> 01:59:53,600 Speaker 4: just anything, dirtiest floor of all time, classic gym, dirty floor, 2430 01:59:53,640 --> 01:59:58,080 Speaker 4: bad combination. But I did not see it. I'm glad 2431 01:59:58,120 --> 02:00:01,839 Speaker 4: you guys did. Trey Kaufman Wrenn says, quote, I'm playing 2432 02:00:02,800 --> 02:00:06,440 Speaker 4: at Alabama coming up tomorrow night, So if you were wondering, 2433 02:00:06,560 --> 02:00:11,800 Speaker 4: Trey Kaufman wren shall return. According to Trey Kaufman Wren 2434 02:00:12,760 --> 02:00:14,920 Speaker 4: tomorrow night. I didn't watch a little bit of Dusty 2435 02:00:14,960 --> 02:00:17,680 Speaker 4: May Squad in Michigan and Wake Forest last night. Anybody 2436 02:00:17,720 --> 02:00:21,280 Speaker 4: catched some of that? I did also notice from Andrew Marshawn, 2437 02:00:21,360 --> 02:00:25,000 Speaker 4: who is a sports and media person that's on the 2438 02:00:25,080 --> 02:00:29,760 Speaker 4: Internet and on social media, says there is potential momentum 2439 02:00:31,640 --> 02:00:35,920 Speaker 4: for a YouTube TV ESPN deal to be finalized as 2440 02:00:35,960 --> 02:00:41,000 Speaker 4: the sides move closer that according to the Athletic, I 2441 02:00:41,000 --> 02:00:44,240 Speaker 4: don't know how many of you have YouTube TV and 2442 02:00:44,320 --> 02:00:47,600 Speaker 4: still dealing with no ESPN. How about you? 2443 02:00:48,400 --> 02:00:50,240 Speaker 2: I am not a YouTube TV guy either. 2444 02:00:51,040 --> 02:00:53,920 Speaker 4: See, everybody went and jacked around and cut the cord, 2445 02:00:53,960 --> 02:00:55,920 Speaker 4: and now you're going, why I even mess around with 2446 02:00:55,960 --> 02:01:02,560 Speaker 4: cutting the cord? The same type of crap, And really, 2447 02:01:02,680 --> 02:01:04,200 Speaker 4: I don't know where you're gonna get out of the 2448 02:01:04,280 --> 02:01:08,000 Speaker 4: way of this, especially with these streaming services bidding and 2449 02:01:08,040 --> 02:01:15,160 Speaker 4: then being awarded leagues and games. We are all going 2450 02:01:15,200 --> 02:01:19,600 Speaker 4: to be screwed at some point in time. 2451 02:01:20,760 --> 02:01:23,240 Speaker 2: So no more JV takeovers. John, You got two left, 2452 02:01:23,240 --> 02:01:24,840 Speaker 2: and that means you actually get to sleep after that. 2453 02:01:26,200 --> 02:01:27,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I will sleep a. 2454 02:01:27,000 --> 02:01:30,120 Speaker 4: Little bit on Saturday night for about a month. Yeah, Yeah, 2455 02:01:30,240 --> 02:01:33,560 Speaker 4: two more Krediya. I just can't do. If I could 2456 02:01:33,600 --> 02:01:36,160 Speaker 4: play like two Burl Live songs the entire time, I 2457 02:01:36,160 --> 02:01:39,320 Speaker 4: can do. I can't do anything else, though, But that 2458 02:01:39,480 --> 02:01:44,520 Speaker 4: is a big time month plus for b one oh 2459 02:01:44,560 --> 02:01:47,839 Speaker 4: five point seven. I you later on tonight against Milwaukee. 2460 02:01:47,880 --> 02:01:50,880 Speaker 4: If you missed my conversation with Tucker Divrees earlier this week. 2461 02:01:50,920 --> 02:01:55,120 Speaker 4: That podcast also available one oh seven five thefan dot com. 2462 02:01:55,120 --> 02:01:57,000 Speaker 4: Of course, the Colts bye week. We got into a 2463 02:01:57,040 --> 02:01:59,720 Speaker 4: lot of that yesterday. The believability of it, what it's 2464 02:01:59,720 --> 02:02:02,000 Speaker 4: going to take. And I'm talking about people around here, 2465 02:02:02,120 --> 02:02:05,720 Speaker 4: not necessarily nay series at the national level, but those 2466 02:02:05,800 --> 02:02:09,680 Speaker 4: around here that still need a little bit more evidence 2467 02:02:10,280 --> 02:02:14,080 Speaker 4: to this thing being legit. Now I'll take it. I mean, 2468 02:02:14,080 --> 02:02:17,560 Speaker 4: you're eight and two. You have positioned yourself, especially compared 2469 02:02:17,560 --> 02:02:20,280 Speaker 4: to other teams of the AFC right now, and I 2470 02:02:20,360 --> 02:02:23,880 Speaker 4: know that next up is in Kansas City and the 2471 02:02:24,000 --> 02:02:26,960 Speaker 4: Chiefs are on a roll, but they still have ground 2472 02:02:26,960 --> 02:02:29,760 Speaker 4: to make up and they still play in the most 2473 02:02:29,800 --> 02:02:36,440 Speaker 4: competitive division in the NFL. So you look around the 2474 02:02:36,520 --> 02:02:41,720 Speaker 4: landscape of the AFC, the Bills are on the struggle bus, 2475 02:02:41,960 --> 02:02:45,960 Speaker 4: losing in South Florida. Now the Bills end up getting 2476 02:02:46,240 --> 02:02:49,160 Speaker 4: New England. No check that. I'm sorry. The Bills get 2477 02:02:49,160 --> 02:02:52,040 Speaker 4: Tampa Bay this weekend. New England's on Thursday night against 2478 02:02:52,040 --> 02:02:56,800 Speaker 4: the Jets. I mean, you see within your own division, 2479 02:02:56,840 --> 02:03:00,520 Speaker 4: the AFC South, the problems Jacksonville has Travis or done 2480 02:03:00,520 --> 02:03:04,080 Speaker 4: for the season, another issue there. The Texans have had 2481 02:03:04,120 --> 02:03:09,600 Speaker 4: across the board, both offensively and defensively issues four and 2482 02:03:09,800 --> 02:03:13,160 Speaker 4: five on the season. So to be where the Colts 2483 02:03:13,160 --> 02:03:16,760 Speaker 4: are right now, I think record wise, right now enough 2484 02:03:17,640 --> 02:03:20,400 Speaker 4: makes it believable to me. But there are still some 2485 02:03:20,440 --> 02:03:25,280 Speaker 4: of the fens that want to see what happens after 2486 02:03:25,400 --> 02:03:28,800 Speaker 4: Kansas City and then you're going to make that particular judgment, 2487 02:03:30,480 --> 02:03:34,120 Speaker 4: which I kind of get, but I also tend to 2488 02:03:34,160 --> 02:03:39,680 Speaker 4: believe that you're missing out. You got to soak this 2489 02:03:39,800 --> 02:03:42,240 Speaker 4: up right now and then see what happens against Kansas 2490 02:03:42,240 --> 02:03:44,200 Speaker 4: City and see how they handle the rest of the season. 2491 02:03:44,320 --> 02:03:45,800 Speaker 4: You know, one of the things you have to work 2492 02:03:45,840 --> 02:03:48,680 Speaker 4: on coming up in this bye week, and I'm talking 2493 02:03:48,720 --> 02:03:50,880 Speaker 4: about the coaching staff more than anything else. You have 2494 02:03:50,920 --> 02:03:54,360 Speaker 4: to figure out in the last two weeks why things 2495 02:03:54,400 --> 02:03:58,480 Speaker 4: have dramatically changed. I don't expect at all this offense 2496 02:03:58,560 --> 02:04:01,600 Speaker 4: to click at a level in which it had prior to. 2497 02:04:02,360 --> 02:04:05,080 Speaker 4: But you also don't expect, for example, to turn it 2498 02:04:05,120 --> 02:04:07,280 Speaker 4: over six times and a loss where it's a one 2499 02:04:07,320 --> 02:04:16,720 Speaker 4: score loss six turnovers. You don't expect the offense and 2500 02:04:16,880 --> 02:04:20,680 Speaker 4: especially the cohesion between the quarterback and the offensive line 2501 02:04:21,200 --> 02:04:25,120 Speaker 4: to look this disjointed in the past two games, because 2502 02:04:25,120 --> 02:04:28,000 Speaker 4: really what you saw in Pittsburgh it was different because 2503 02:04:28,040 --> 02:04:31,720 Speaker 4: they had two guys that can do it every single time, 2504 02:04:31,760 --> 02:04:34,440 Speaker 4: that are known to do it. Now in Atlanta, they 2505 02:04:34,880 --> 02:04:37,880 Speaker 4: just brought a lot of people because what they saw 2506 02:04:37,880 --> 02:04:41,800 Speaker 4: in Pittsburgh the week prior was a quarterback that would 2507 02:04:41,800 --> 02:04:45,440 Speaker 4: give the ball up when pressured. He was no longer 2508 02:04:45,480 --> 02:04:47,840 Speaker 4: in the easy chair. He was no longer to make 2509 02:04:47,920 --> 02:04:51,840 Speaker 4: those quick judgments, those quick decisions and feel comfortable in 2510 02:04:51,960 --> 02:04:55,160 Speaker 4: doing it. The pressure in Pittsburgh was on now with 2511 02:04:55,280 --> 02:05:01,120 Speaker 4: Watt and Highsmith, essentially, that is a lot different. And 2512 02:05:01,280 --> 02:05:04,160 Speaker 4: what they did with Atlanta and Berlin was they brought 2513 02:05:04,200 --> 02:05:09,240 Speaker 4: a ton of people and they got there and they 2514 02:05:09,320 --> 02:05:11,680 Speaker 4: messed at the quarterback and that really messed up the 2515 02:05:11,720 --> 02:05:16,879 Speaker 4: offensive operation. And the savior was the MVP of the NFL, 2516 02:05:17,000 --> 02:05:22,520 Speaker 4: and that was Jonathan Taylor. But those are things ball 2517 02:05:22,680 --> 02:05:28,000 Speaker 4: security and again to regain any semblance of cohesion. I'm 2518 02:05:28,000 --> 02:05:30,960 Speaker 4: not talking about trying to regain the status of playing 2519 02:05:31,040 --> 02:05:36,040 Speaker 4: better than any offense has ever played leading up to 2520 02:05:36,040 --> 02:05:40,800 Speaker 4: that Pittsburgh game, but protecting the quarterback, and if you're 2521 02:05:40,880 --> 02:05:46,320 Speaker 4: the quarterback protecting the football, you know, whether that's shorter routes, 2522 02:05:46,440 --> 02:05:51,040 Speaker 4: quicker decisions, whatever you have to do. These are solutions 2523 02:05:51,080 --> 02:05:55,760 Speaker 4: that have to be made during this off time leading 2524 02:05:55,840 --> 02:05:57,800 Speaker 4: up to week number twelve, when they're on the road 2525 02:05:57,800 --> 02:06:01,600 Speaker 4: in the toilet in Kansas City bye week. You think 2526 02:06:01,680 --> 02:06:03,720 Speaker 4: Jimmy still loves to hear that, doesn't he The toilet 2527 02:06:03,760 --> 02:06:10,200 Speaker 4: against the toilet. Arrowhead Stadium sucks. Sucks. Yeah, I know 2528 02:06:10,240 --> 02:06:14,160 Speaker 4: it's glamorized and glorify well these great old buildings. Yeah, 2529 02:06:14,280 --> 02:06:20,200 Speaker 4: it's a toilet, is what it is. Their team is 2530 02:06:20,200 --> 02:06:21,760 Speaker 4: a hell of a lot better right now, made no 2531 02:06:21,840 --> 02:06:25,240 Speaker 4: mistake about that. But their division is difficult, a lot 2532 02:06:25,240 --> 02:06:27,880 Speaker 4: of ground to make up. I will see it, the 2533 02:06:27,920 --> 02:06:31,080 Speaker 4: Pacers see if they have a response after last night, 2534 02:06:31,160 --> 02:06:33,240 Speaker 4: so you get embarrassed. I mean, really, you got de 2535 02:06:33,400 --> 02:06:38,320 Speaker 4: pants last night because the Jazz stink and they put 2536 02:06:38,440 --> 02:06:40,960 Speaker 4: one fifty two on you at home. I think the 2537 02:06:41,000 --> 02:06:43,680 Speaker 4: Pacers coming up tomorrow night to close out this Western 2538 02:06:43,760 --> 02:06:46,839 Speaker 4: Road swing in Phoenix. You think maybe you we'll see 2539 02:06:47,600 --> 02:06:52,680 Speaker 4: hopefully so because I'm willing to give injuries and all 2540 02:06:52,760 --> 02:06:55,680 Speaker 4: this a pass but last night is not passable for me. 2541 02:06:55,920 --> 02:06:57,040 Speaker 4: Last night was a joke. 2542 02:06:56,880 --> 02:06:59,160 Speaker 2: Because Booker put up sixty like he did at Gambridge. 2543 02:06:59,240 --> 02:07:02,200 Speaker 2: The one's imagine. 2544 02:07:02,720 --> 02:07:06,800 Speaker 4: Marketing going crazy to I was glad last night that 2545 02:07:06,880 --> 02:07:09,520 Speaker 4: thirty three was no longer with this team. Can you 2546 02:07:09,640 --> 02:07:13,040 Speaker 4: imagine what my social media would have looked like had 2547 02:07:13,200 --> 02:07:16,800 Speaker 4: thirty three giving up thirty five to Lauri Marketing? What 2548 02:07:16,920 --> 02:07:20,720 Speaker 4: is he the pride of Finland? Is he Finland or Sweden? 2549 02:07:20,920 --> 02:07:26,080 Speaker 4: I know he's uh, he's somewhat. I think he's Finland. 2550 02:07:26,200 --> 02:07:31,680 Speaker 4: Is he Finish Laurien Marketing? I know he's Scannon. I 2551 02:07:31,760 --> 02:07:35,920 Speaker 4: will say Scandinavian. Okay, If I say Scandinavian, that covers it. 2552 02:07:38,520 --> 02:07:43,360 Speaker 4: Finish thirty five. Yeah, my social media would have been 2553 02:07:43,360 --> 02:07:47,120 Speaker 4: absolutely on fire last night, alas it was not. I 2554 02:07:47,200 --> 02:07:50,040 Speaker 4: quick Break will come back. That's Eddie Garrison. I'm jmv 2555 02:07:50,360 --> 02:07:54,040 Speaker 4: in for Jay Query. This is Query and Company. We've 2556 02:07:54,040 --> 02:07:55,800 Speaker 4: got my show coming up at the top of the 2557 02:07:55,840 --> 02:07:59,080 Speaker 4: hour on the inbound and hey more reason why you 2558 02:07:59,240 --> 02:08:01,080 Speaker 4: need to knock off off early and join me at 2559 02:08:01,120 --> 02:08:05,800 Speaker 4: the Upstairs Pub coming up tomorrow, because we've had great moments. 2560 02:08:05,840 --> 02:08:08,000 Speaker 4: Really every week we have great moments on the road. 2561 02:08:08,680 --> 02:08:11,040 Speaker 4: I want this to be one of them, and I 2562 02:08:11,160 --> 02:08:15,520 Speaker 4: expect this to be one of them. Kirkwood in Bloomington, 2563 02:08:15,880 --> 02:08:20,640 Speaker 4: the Upstairs Pub tomorrow, Larcenee, Bourbonlarks, Luna Zuela, tequila shots, 2564 02:08:20,640 --> 02:08:23,160 Speaker 4: Smarty come get a busy show for you coming up 2565 02:08:23,200 --> 02:08:25,920 Speaker 4: to three o'clock as well. We've done the crossover me 2566 02:08:26,160 --> 02:08:28,280 Speaker 4: and you on the other side. The text line of 2567 02:08:28,320 --> 02:08:30,840 Speaker 4: three one seven two three nine ten seventy or two 2568 02:08:30,840 --> 02:08:33,200 Speaker 4: three nine ten seventy if you want to jump on board, 2569 02:08:33,280 --> 02:08:35,800 Speaker 4: this is Quarry in Company ninety three to five and 2570 02:08:35,800 --> 02:08:38,920 Speaker 4: one oh seven five the fan. Hey, welcome back to 2571 02:08:39,000 --> 02:08:41,800 Speaker 4: Quary Company. I'm JMV and for Jake. Final Hour. Final 2572 02:08:41,840 --> 02:08:45,120 Speaker 4: segment of the Final Hour, Eddie Garrison shout out to 2573 02:08:45,280 --> 02:08:48,280 Speaker 4: Eddie Garrison. The DJ over there skipped over the cuss 2574 02:08:48,280 --> 02:08:51,400 Speaker 4: well known had to make sure to get the clean version. 2575 02:08:51,440 --> 02:08:53,800 Speaker 4: Is that the clean version? That's the version I have upstairs. 2576 02:08:53,800 --> 02:08:56,480 Speaker 4: If for Radiohead and Creep, I would hope it's the version. 2577 02:08:56,560 --> 02:09:00,640 Speaker 4: So blank and spacial and all of a sudden just 2578 02:09:00,720 --> 02:09:03,080 Speaker 4: gets lobbed right in there too, and you got to 2579 02:09:03,120 --> 02:09:05,880 Speaker 4: do something with it. Don't want you, uh making Sean 2580 02:09:05,960 --> 02:09:09,800 Speaker 4: Coputam said, I can't imagine how many times I have 2581 02:09:09,920 --> 02:09:16,000 Speaker 4: already turns on there. What is this? What is happening here? 2582 02:09:16,680 --> 02:09:20,320 Speaker 4: I want to know? It's when I used and this 2583 02:09:20,480 --> 02:09:23,920 Speaker 4: is true. I did this maybe a month ago, and 2584 02:09:24,000 --> 02:09:28,640 Speaker 4: I could do this in the nineties as well. I 2585 02:09:28,720 --> 02:09:33,160 Speaker 4: had an edited version of Ice Cubes No Vassilene, which 2586 02:09:34,200 --> 02:09:39,840 Speaker 4: it's impossible. It's like a beep every other word, uh huh, 2587 02:09:40,240 --> 02:09:43,760 Speaker 4: But yeah, what the hell, I'll play it. I mean, 2588 02:09:43,840 --> 02:09:46,480 Speaker 4: even like at the very beginning, he just comes right here. 2589 02:09:48,120 --> 02:09:51,760 Speaker 4: I set it off, you know. I mean it just 2590 02:09:51,800 --> 02:09:54,280 Speaker 4: comes right out of the music in the intro into 2591 02:09:54,320 --> 02:09:59,880 Speaker 4: the lyrics and a beep. Beautiful, that's Eddie Garrison over there. 2592 02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:01,520 Speaker 4: I'll get started with my show coming up. At the 2593 02:10:01,520 --> 02:10:04,040 Speaker 4: top of the hour, Jake is on the way on vacation. 2594 02:10:04,280 --> 02:10:06,800 Speaker 4: So I took in the final hour of Quarry and Company, 2595 02:10:07,160 --> 02:10:09,600 Speaker 4: and Tony Eastwo was with us, I should say. A 2596 02:10:09,600 --> 02:10:11,880 Speaker 4: little bit earlier. Podcast on one O seven five fan 2597 02:10:12,000 --> 02:10:15,400 Speaker 4: dot Com, Bobby Buckets more to Maker Radio Network with 2598 02:10:15,480 --> 02:10:18,640 Speaker 4: me coming up after three, uh Pete Futech is going 2599 02:10:18,720 --> 02:10:21,840 Speaker 4: to talk about the playoffs and IU still and the 2600 02:10:21,880 --> 02:10:25,040 Speaker 4: two hole in the playoffs. I love it because you 2601 02:10:25,080 --> 02:10:28,600 Speaker 4: get a Texas A and M the SEC people. The 2602 02:10:28,760 --> 02:10:34,040 Speaker 4: grandfathered in football programs are out raids. That's exactly how 2603 02:10:34,080 --> 02:10:37,000 Speaker 4: you want it. I you fans have to be happy 2604 02:10:37,600 --> 02:10:42,919 Speaker 4: with the infiltration cause that the grandfathered in college football 2605 02:10:42,960 --> 02:10:46,040 Speaker 4: programs and their fan bases and the media that covers 2606 02:10:46,080 --> 02:10:49,800 Speaker 4: them or lobbying and crying about right now. Really it's 2607 02:10:49,840 --> 02:10:54,880 Speaker 4: a beautiful thing. There is something to be said in 2608 02:10:54,920 --> 02:10:59,120 Speaker 4: that nature about being a party crasher. I love the 2609 02:10:59,160 --> 02:11:01,280 Speaker 4: fact that I you is playing the role of the 2610 02:11:01,280 --> 02:11:04,320 Speaker 4: party crasher. And I know, listen, don't get me wrong, 2611 02:11:04,560 --> 02:11:07,640 Speaker 4: I'm not trying to downplay what they've accomplished and how 2612 02:11:07,680 --> 02:11:09,720 Speaker 4: good they are at all, but there is something to 2613 02:11:09,720 --> 02:11:12,360 Speaker 4: be said about that. I'm just gonna show up and 2614 02:11:13,120 --> 02:11:16,440 Speaker 4: who cares what the hell everybody else says? And then 2615 02:11:16,480 --> 02:11:19,160 Speaker 4: it just it's so offensive to everybody else. You know, 2616 02:11:19,240 --> 02:11:26,160 Speaker 4: all these historically high level college football programs have to 2617 02:11:26,240 --> 02:11:28,880 Speaker 4: eat it a little bit, and that's beautiful. Those that 2618 02:11:28,960 --> 02:11:35,560 Speaker 4: have covered it for years, have glorified it, have suckled 2619 02:11:35,560 --> 02:11:37,920 Speaker 4: at the well. I don't want to say it that way. 2620 02:11:38,960 --> 02:11:45,520 Speaker 4: It's beautiful to see them scurry. Are you Wisconsin? That's 2621 02:11:45,520 --> 02:11:47,400 Speaker 4: coming up on Saturday again. I'm gonna bloom me to 2622 02:11:47,400 --> 02:11:50,080 Speaker 4: tomorrow Larcendey, bourbon locks, lunas do with tequila shots. 2623 02:11:50,200 --> 02:11:51,040 Speaker 2: We're gonna be at the. 2624 02:11:51,160 --> 02:11:54,120 Speaker 4: Upstairs pop me, Bret Halverson and all of us coming 2625 02:11:54,200 --> 02:11:58,040 Speaker 4: up tomorrow. So Eddie Garrison have an interesting question. I'm 2626 02:11:58,040 --> 02:12:00,960 Speaker 4: gonna let him jump on board and ask that me 2627 02:12:01,200 --> 02:12:04,320 Speaker 4: and everybody because I'll go ahead and roll that into 2628 02:12:04,680 --> 02:12:08,960 Speaker 4: the three o'clock hour on my show. Regarding potential free 2629 02:12:09,000 --> 02:12:10,440 Speaker 4: agency we're questioning was. 2630 02:12:10,520 --> 02:12:12,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, we were talking about this earlier, John because ESPN 2631 02:12:13,000 --> 02:12:16,840 Speaker 2: it was Matt Bowen and Jeremy Fowler. They did this 2632 02:12:16,920 --> 02:12:19,120 Speaker 2: piece together where they're ranking, you know, the way too 2633 02:12:19,200 --> 02:12:22,280 Speaker 2: early twenty twenty six NFL free agents and three cults 2634 02:12:22,280 --> 02:12:25,520 Speaker 2: are in the top seven, Daniel Jones, Alec Pierce, Braden 2635 02:12:25,560 --> 02:12:29,280 Speaker 2: Smith being those three players, and Jeremy Fowler reporting that 2636 02:12:29,680 --> 02:12:32,640 Speaker 2: in the pure section of this that he's probably going 2637 02:12:32,680 --> 02:12:34,520 Speaker 2: to get twenty million a year and to not be 2638 02:12:34,640 --> 02:12:38,000 Speaker 2: surprised when you see that number. I read that Joel 2639 02:12:38,040 --> 02:12:41,240 Speaker 2: even agreed with me earlier that it's a bit surprising 2640 02:12:41,280 --> 02:12:44,160 Speaker 2: that twenty million is the number when you look at 2641 02:12:44,160 --> 02:12:46,640 Speaker 2: what he's done this season. Yeah, and how he's been 2642 02:12:46,640 --> 02:12:48,960 Speaker 2: more of a complete receiver with not just being the 2643 02:12:48,960 --> 02:12:50,680 Speaker 2: guy that wins down the field and the guy that 2644 02:12:50,720 --> 02:12:53,320 Speaker 2: you throw the ball thirty forty yards down the field too. 2645 02:12:53,360 --> 02:12:55,080 Speaker 2: He's winning over the middle of the field. Now they're 2646 02:12:55,120 --> 02:12:57,560 Speaker 2: using him more on drag routes. I thought he would 2647 02:12:57,560 --> 02:13:00,760 Speaker 2: command more than twenty million dollars. Question you is how 2648 02:13:00,760 --> 02:13:03,360 Speaker 2: comfortable or what's the number that you would be comfortable? 2649 02:13:04,120 --> 02:13:06,520 Speaker 4: Certainly that I think that as long as you have 2650 02:13:06,600 --> 02:13:09,800 Speaker 4: Daniel Jones, which essentially they will. I know some people 2651 02:13:09,800 --> 02:13:12,080 Speaker 4: have been put off by the past two weeks, but 2652 02:13:12,520 --> 02:13:14,360 Speaker 4: you know, what other options do you think they're going 2653 02:13:14,440 --> 02:13:16,680 Speaker 4: to go with? And I think everybody right now for 2654 02:13:16,720 --> 02:13:18,720 Speaker 4: the most parts of believer in Daniel Jones. Still a 2655 02:13:18,760 --> 02:13:22,040 Speaker 4: lot of season to go. But Alec Peerce is essential 2656 02:13:22,080 --> 02:13:26,800 Speaker 4: personnel because he is giving. When Daniel Jones wasn't a 2657 02:13:27,040 --> 02:13:31,160 Speaker 4: downfield threat, Alec Pearce makes him a downfield threat. Sorry 2658 02:13:31,160 --> 02:13:32,240 Speaker 4: about that. I have no idea. 2659 02:13:32,360 --> 02:13:33,040 Speaker 2: What are we doing here? 2660 02:13:33,120 --> 02:13:35,680 Speaker 4: John, that's my phone scam? 2661 02:13:35,920 --> 02:13:37,920 Speaker 2: Likely Do you not know how to turn the ringer off? 2662 02:13:39,200 --> 02:13:43,760 Speaker 4: Can somebody do that? My mom called yesterday at five 2663 02:13:43,880 --> 02:13:45,800 Speaker 4: twenty five, so I don't know, go ahead and try it. 2664 02:13:45,840 --> 02:13:46,400 Speaker 1: She doing all right? 2665 02:13:47,520 --> 02:13:52,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, she called at five twenty five were the tail 2666 02:13:52,280 --> 02:13:55,720 Speaker 4: end of the show to ask why Direct TV send her? 2667 02:13:56,000 --> 02:13:58,560 Speaker 4: She wants the NBA package, but she wants it for free, 2668 02:13:59,480 --> 02:14:01,240 Speaker 4: and she thought she was getting it for free. 2669 02:14:01,560 --> 02:14:02,640 Speaker 1: Ooh, but she didn't. 2670 02:14:03,000 --> 02:14:04,960 Speaker 2: Oh, now I'm getting it for free right now and 2671 02:14:05,040 --> 02:14:07,680 Speaker 2: I love it. You probably shouldn't be airing that out. 2672 02:14:08,320 --> 02:14:10,760 Speaker 4: You know what they really owe me a little bit. 2673 02:14:10,800 --> 02:14:12,920 Speaker 4: I think a little bit of freedom there. Yeah, I 2674 02:14:12,960 --> 02:14:16,880 Speaker 4: would suggest anyway back to that. Yeah, I think that he, 2675 02:14:17,040 --> 02:14:21,800 Speaker 4: to me, is as essential as anybody that we're talking about. 2676 02:14:21,840 --> 02:14:24,120 Speaker 4: He's right there, like Daniel Jones will be number one, 2677 02:14:24,160 --> 02:14:27,280 Speaker 4: and he'll be number two, and we'll see what happens 2678 02:14:27,320 --> 02:14:30,120 Speaker 4: with with Braydon Smith, who I'm assuming is also in 2679 02:14:30,120 --> 02:14:34,680 Speaker 4: that particular category. But yeah, that's to me if you 2680 02:14:34,680 --> 02:14:39,760 Speaker 4: want to continue to do offensively, and Daniel Jones is 2681 02:14:40,160 --> 02:14:42,800 Speaker 4: going to have that changeover from what he was for 2682 02:14:42,880 --> 02:14:44,960 Speaker 4: six seasons in New York to what he has been 2683 02:14:45,040 --> 02:14:47,680 Speaker 4: so far this season. But there are certainly things to 2684 02:14:47,720 --> 02:14:50,080 Speaker 4: figure out through the last two weeks, but I think 2685 02:14:50,120 --> 02:14:53,680 Speaker 4: everybody's pretty happy with what he's accomplished so far. You 2686 02:14:53,800 --> 02:14:56,760 Speaker 4: have to have Alec Pierce, so that to me seems 2687 02:14:56,800 --> 02:15:01,000 Speaker 4: like a relatively strong number if that ends up being it. 2688 02:15:01,480 --> 02:15:02,920 Speaker 4: Hey man, Eddie, thank you very much. 2689 02:15:03,000 --> 02:15:03,640 Speaker 2: It's always fun. 2690 02:15:03,880 --> 02:15:06,720 Speaker 4: I appreciate that James is stepping in here. I've got 2691 02:15:06,760 --> 02:15:08,440 Speaker 4: a busy show with you coming up on the other 2692 02:15:08,480 --> 02:15:11,200 Speaker 4: side that includes Pete Futech. We'll talk college football with 2693 02:15:11,240 --> 02:15:15,360 Speaker 4: Pete and we've got Bobby Buckets. We've got Purdue Alabama 2694 02:15:15,440 --> 02:15:18,280 Speaker 4: coming up tomorrow night. What Trey Kroffman Renz says he's 2695 02:15:18,440 --> 02:15:21,720 Speaker 4: playing against Alabama. We'll talk to Bobby about that coming 2696 02:15:21,800 --> 02:15:23,520 Speaker 4: up a little bit later on stuff to give away 2697 02:15:23,560 --> 02:15:28,240 Speaker 4: as well. This has been Quarry in Company JMB and 2698 02:15:28,360 --> 02:15:30,920 Speaker 4: for Jake, gonna rive with me coming up on the 2699 02:15:30,920 --> 02:15:33,320 Speaker 4: other side. Sit Tight ninety three five and one oh 2700 02:15:33,320 --> 02:15:34,080 Speaker 4: seven five Fan