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Speaker 1: The Hammer Nigel Show. Hello, my name is Nigel Jason Hammer.

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Speaker 2: Would you like to do the honors and introduce this

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Speaker 2: beastly bulging fellow sitting next to me live in studio.

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Speaker 1: He was wearing a blue leisure suit.

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Speaker 3: He was a beastly bulging man.

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Speaker 1: Not bear, joins us. How were you right, guys?

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Speaker 2: Do it?

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Speaker 1: First studio of appearance in twenty twenty six. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: having me, guy, It's good to be here. How was

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Speaker 1: the new year? Man? You look good, you look healthy.

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Speaker 1: It was fantastic.

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Speaker 4: Became it went had some good gunshots going off a

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Speaker 4: little bit east to me, so I knew it was midnight.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 4: It was fantastic, just the same air, same yeah, just

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Speaker 4: right into the It's scary.

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Speaker 3: How many morons fire their guns into the air.

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Speaker 1: Wait you did too, Hammer?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it was my side of town where one

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Speaker 3: came down and landed on somebody.

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Speaker 1: Wow, what goes up must come down, imagine that.

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Speaker 3: I love the story that Guy Ralfer tells us of

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Speaker 3: that one moron that told him, Now, the gun bullet

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Speaker 3: goes up in the air, but then it burns up

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Speaker 3: on re entry, like it's going up out of the

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Speaker 3: solar system. And coming back down.

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Speaker 1: Well, I haven't heard that theory before. It's not all

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Speaker 1: thirteen dude, Right, you can't shoot the moon.

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Speaker 3: That's not how this works. Side, we have a problem.

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Speaker 3: We got some uh, some good news. I think there's

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Speaker 3: a ramp reopening.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is fun. Yeah, this is a big thing

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Speaker 4: on the northeast side. You know that awful construction zone

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Speaker 4: we've been enduring for the.

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Speaker 2: Which one's specific even just dealing with the northeast sid

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Speaker 2: it's the clear Path construction zone, the redesign of the

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Speaker 2: four sixty five I sixty nine interchange.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, everything's going to be done in the spring. But

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Speaker 4: we have this ramp reopening. It is southbound sixty nine

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Speaker 4: two southbound four sixty five and I just.

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Speaker 1: Got the latest update of about a half hour ago.

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Speaker 1: It's like you're holding a piece of gold Man.

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Speaker 4: This is this is exciting when you're a bachelor and

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Speaker 4: a traffic guy.

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Speaker 1: At the same time. This is a big fig. Get

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Speaker 1: you going.

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Speaker 4: It's a it's a The ramp is reopening now Saturday

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Speaker 4: boarding instead of Sunday, and there will be restrictions starting

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Speaker 4: at nine am tomorrow. So if you're going from eighty

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Speaker 4: second Street to southbound four sixty five at nine am tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: You can't use that ramp because it's going to be closed,

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Speaker 4: and the southbound sixty nine two southbound for sixty five

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Speaker 4: is going to be down the one lane. And I

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Speaker 4: know all this it's just a touchout of rush hour,

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Speaker 4: but it's still like during the midday on a Friday,

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Speaker 4: so it's a big deal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what this leads to.

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Speaker 4: Is Monday boarding rush hour and the big, brand new

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Speaker 4: spanking ramp that's going to be up on the northeast side.

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Speaker 4: And this will be southbound sixty nine two southbound for

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Speaker 4: sixty five to one of the most important rams in

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Speaker 4: the city.

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Speaker 1: So we get a brand new ramp. Isn't that great?

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Speaker 1: He just forg that bear canceled his viagra.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't need it now because the ramps opening up.

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Speaker 1: Baby, I've never had viagra, tamps. All systems are goo.

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Speaker 1: Wants to touch me? This kiss? Hu should I hear?

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Speaker 1: All the time?

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Speaker 3: And it's a loaded question, Matt, But when will all

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Speaker 3: of this crap be done? Like when will Downtown not

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Speaker 3: look like Detroit anymore?

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Speaker 1: Never ever ending?

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, it really is for downtown my expectation, And

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Speaker 4: I just go from my experience from living downtown, and

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Speaker 4: my expectation is when this project at Circle Center Mall

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Speaker 4: is done, that's when we're going to start seeing downtown

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Speaker 4: of old.

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Speaker 1: Just say ten years, yeah, ten years, you know what,

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Speaker 1: come on? Well, three of us might be dead, but

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Speaker 1: the city will be doing great. I'll be pushing sixty.

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Speaker 3: Is government funded hotel on Illinois Street close to being done?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's I think we're looking at the summer as

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Speaker 4: far as that street and a lot of that being

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Speaker 4: concluded there. But in the time, with the new Circle

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Speaker 4: Center Mall, I'm sure they'll add ten stories to it

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Speaker 1: So are you still coming in through the south side

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Speaker 1: of downtown Himmer, Yes, with this new location. So is

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Speaker 1: it still all oh.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you get off on the ramp and you used

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Speaker 3: to be able to go like toward you know where

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Speaker 3: old parking garage used to be, but it's still all

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Speaker 3: say businesses are still open.

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Speaker 1: But let's be honest, like.

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Speaker 3: Having all that crap closed just kills so many of

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Speaker 3: those restaurants and bars.

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Speaker 1: How do you get into these businesses.

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Speaker 4: So there's one on the Madison Avenue construction zone, which

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Speaker 4: is just brutal. It's just an abomination, is the way

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Speaker 4: I look at it. And there's just like this office

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Speaker 4: complex off the northbound side, and it's like, hey, we're

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Speaker 4: opening everything, and I'm like, I don't see any way

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Speaker 4: to get in there.

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Speaker 1: Right now. It's less a place to park. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: really is.

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Speaker 4: And that's the same thing we're dealing with downtown, where

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Speaker 4: parking's already had a premium.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's tough to find.

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Speaker 4: Parking spaces, especially if you're going to one of the

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Speaker 4: cultural districts. Could be Fountain Square, could be Mass have

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Speaker 4: any of the popular night spots right now, I mean,

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Speaker 4: parking is a premium, and that's why it's so expensive.

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Speaker 4: And that's why people keep building parking garages instead of

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Speaker 4: really cool stuff. And that's what I'm looking for the

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Speaker 4: return of I mean, is that's why I keep bringing

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Speaker 4: up this Circle Center mall and this construction. I know

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Speaker 4: they're building a big, beautiful Fife Star for Star Hotel

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Speaker 4: on Pen, but that's gonna jack out Pen for another.

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Speaker 3: Pass me that tinfoil hat that's right next to you.

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Speaker 3: Pass me, the tinfoil hat here.

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Speaker 1: Let me put this on. Look.

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Speaker 3: The reason why there's such a lack of parking is

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Speaker 3: because it's a low key push for the Democratic leaders

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Speaker 3: of this city to try to have more public transportation.

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Speaker 3: They don't want you driving your own car coming downtown parking, No, no, no.

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Speaker 1: They want you to ride.

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Speaker 3: The red line, they want you to ride the blue line,

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Speaker 3: and all this other crap that nobody wants.

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Speaker 1: Tenfoil hat, I'm wearing it with pride. I love it.

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Speaker 1: It's perfect fit, you know. Thank you built all these

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Speaker 1: bus lanes. But I always see the buses out of

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Speaker 1: the bus lanes.

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Speaker 2: I'm in the bustlane more than the buses are right, says,

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Speaker 2: do not drive here.

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Speaker 1: I turn right into and every.

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Speaker 3: Time I go buy like the little bus depot things,

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Speaker 3: all I see are homeless dudes asleep.

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Speaker 1: I don't ever see anybody getting on that thing. Yeah

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Speaker 1: it's it's editor.

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Speaker 3: And now that we're rolling, Matt, I'm just going to

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Speaker 3: say two words, and I want to get your thoughts

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Speaker 3: on it.

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Speaker 1: Toll roads.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there's chatter that Governor Brawn toying with the

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Speaker 3: idea of making like seventy a toll road.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a kind of a thing right now.

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Speaker 4: Is this is going to happen at some point. It's

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Speaker 4: going to be a few years, maybe half a decade

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Speaker 4: before it really gets rolling. But I know people have

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Speaker 4: logged into our text group textus at three point seven

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Speaker 4: ninety three ninety three, and somebody was like, hey, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I seventy. I already drive like forty minutes, or I

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Speaker 4: drive from Richmond, which is further than forty minutes into

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Speaker 4: Indianapolis every day.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm not going to be able to afford

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Speaker 1: the toll.

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Speaker 4: And I totally get that, because I, first off, I

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Speaker 4: can't imagine driving back and forth from Richmond to indian

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Speaker 4: amplus every single day. That's going to tax you to

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Speaker 4: begin with, and then you're worried about the additional tool.

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Speaker 4: But this is coming, and I hate to say that

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Speaker 4: it is inevitable. You look at our road conditions, and

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Speaker 4: our roads are awful in Indiana.

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Speaker 1: It's not just indian Amplis. I look all over the place.

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Speaker 4: I can't drive anywhere the state roads some of them

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Speaker 4: are an abomination.

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Speaker 1: They're just absolutely terrible. So what do you do? Where

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Speaker 1: does the money come from? Well, the I want to

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Speaker 1: say uncreative.

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Speaker 4: The way with not so much creativity is just say,

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Speaker 4: put a tool booth hump, and that's essentially what's going

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Speaker 4: to happen. My theory would be that they're going to

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Speaker 4: test this out on seventy maybe even Richmond because that's

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Speaker 4: where they're doing construction for the rest of the year.

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Speaker 1: Then you can put a toll booth.

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Speaker 4: Up, say we had this brand new piece of interstate here,

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Speaker 4: we can toll this, and then that might eventually lead

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Speaker 4: to tools on four sixty five. Yeah, it's what we're doing.

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Speaker 4: It's a big thing. And the question being I hate

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Speaker 4: the roads in Indiana. I hate driving in Indianapolis. It

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Speaker 4: used to be one of my biggest joys driving around

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Speaker 1: How do we make these roads better?

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Speaker 4: Well, the money's got to come from somewhere, and I

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Speaker 4: don't want to pay any more taxes. So maybe they

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Speaker 4: can implement an idea where Okay, you live in Richmond,

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Speaker 4: will give you an easy pass. We'll give you a

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Speaker 4: discount and just charge you people coming in from Ohio,

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Speaker 4: you know, and make them pay the full tool and

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Speaker 4: if you're a commuter, give you a break and maybe

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Speaker 4: find an incentive something where the state of Indiana says, yeah,

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Speaker 4: you have to pay the toll, but we're going to

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Speaker 4: take care of you.

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Speaker 1: Here.

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Speaker 4: I want all options on the table. And if we

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Speaker 4: aren't told that money has to go into infrastructure, it

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Speaker 4: has to go into the roads. If it's not going

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Speaker 4: into the roads, then you can whoever's writing the bill

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Speaker 4: can be shot out of a canon.

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Speaker 1: As far as I'm concerned.

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Speaker 4: Do not try to do any of repent projects or

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Speaker 4: earmark this.

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Speaker 1: Just make the toll money go to the roads. It's

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Speaker 1: easy to me. It's easy, but I'm not a legislature

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Speaker 1: all right.

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Speaker 3: Last thing here before we let you go, Matt, I

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Speaker 3: know you got to get back to your traffic center.

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Speaker 1: We got about a minute left. If, and this is.

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Speaker 3: A big if, the Hoosiers win this thing on Monday

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Speaker 3: and they're sixteen and oh and they're the national champions.

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Speaker 3: You're telling me you think a parade needs to happen,

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Speaker 3: not justin Bloomington, but here in Indianapolis as well.

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Speaker 1: You have to do it to me.

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Speaker 4: To me, it's obvious. I just figured a parade would

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Speaker 4: be in Indianapolis. I really did. And I'm a Purdue guy.

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Speaker 4: I love Purdue basketball, but I got kicked out of Purdue,

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Speaker 4: so I really don't get into the rivalry very much. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I got kicked out of Purdue, But why wouldn't you

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Speaker 4: have This is unprecedented what's happening here. And I know

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Speaker 4: so many of the people I love, people that care

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Speaker 1: So you know, it's a little bittersweet.

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie, yes, things a little bit, but

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Speaker 4: it's so much fun for everybody, and I want them

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Speaker 1: Do the kids want to come up? Did the players

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Speaker 4: That'd be awesome, but they may be so exhaustive from

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Speaker 4: the media tour and everything happening in Bloomington, they don't

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Speaker 4: this is Bloomington North here in Indian Apples. It is

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Speaker 4: I you people so many I you plates treat them.

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Speaker 4: Let's enjoy it, Let's do the thing.

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Speaker 1: You are the man, Matthew, thank you, thanks for having me. Guys,

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