1
00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:10,719
Speaker 1: Live from ball Hartbland and the Crossroads of America. It's

2
00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:19,119
Speaker 1: Tony Katz today.

3
00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:23,080
Speaker 2: And we all sex just about that.

4
00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,640
Speaker 3: You know, Poland was one of two nations that paid

5
00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,280
Speaker 3: more than they were supposed to with NATO. I don't

6
00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,680
Speaker 3: know if anyone knows that, but there are two nations.

7
00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,840
Speaker 4: And it's because Poland understands what it's like to live

8
00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,640
Speaker 4: under a communist healscape and they're not going back. Tony Katz,

9
00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,040
Speaker 4: Tony Katz today, guys, good to be with you. The

10
00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,120
Speaker 4: live stream is happening on the YouTube's Tony kats Twitter X.

11
00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:49,800
Speaker 4: Tony Katz, the President of Poland. He is now in

12
00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:53,159
Speaker 4: the Oval Office. Carol Naraki n A W R O

13
00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,520
Speaker 4: C k y. I. I think I'm pronouncing it correctly.

14
00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,280
Speaker 4: So they're having a meeting in the Oval. I take

15
00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:00,000
Speaker 4: you to it, and some of the questions and answer

16
00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:00,720
Speaker 4: is going on.

17
00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:08,520
Speaker 2: I'm sure, how do you know?

18
00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:09,440
Speaker 3: How do you know?

19
00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,880
Speaker 2: Because I do you want me to prove your wrong?

20
00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,000
Speaker 3: Do you want me to improve your own? Yes?

21
00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:14,920
Speaker 2: But I will.

22
00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,679
Speaker 3: I think it's something we could consider doing. You'd love

23
00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:18,080
Speaker 3: to do it.

24
00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:19,840
Speaker 2: I love the White House food.

25
00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:21,880
Speaker 3: But after a while I can see you going to

26
00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,800
Speaker 3: a nice restaurant, it's safe. If you would have said,

27
00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,200
Speaker 3: like the governor, Governor Moore wanted me to go and

28
00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,760
Speaker 3: walk through Baltimore with him, and I said, you know,

29
00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,679
Speaker 3: I'm I think I'm a brave guy. But there's no

30
00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,160
Speaker 3: reason to be stupid. They have crime that's at levels

31
00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,480
Speaker 3: that nobody's ever seen before in Baltimore. They've done a

32
00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:39,199
Speaker 3: terrible job.

33
00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:40,280
Speaker 2: We go into.

34
00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,040
Speaker 3: Baltimore straight into that very quickly too.

35
00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:43,240
Speaker 2: You know why they.

36
00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,400
Speaker 3: Respect our soldiers. You see our soldiers, they respect ourselveiers.

37
00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,760
Speaker 3: We'd go there too, but we're going to have people

38
00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:51,560
Speaker 3: asking us to go. They're going to want to and

39
00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,720
Speaker 3: I think the people of those places are the politicians

40
00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:56,480
Speaker 3: are not in tune with the people.

41
00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,639
Speaker 2: If they do that much is the truth.

42
00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,800
Speaker 4: If there were the these left leaning politicians would not

43
00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,320
Speaker 4: be saying there's no crime here. President Trump doesn't need

44
00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,520
Speaker 4: to intervene here. They would say, man, we could use

45
00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,880
Speaker 4: help in these areas, maybe not this area, but why

46
00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,360
Speaker 4: don't we work together on this stuff, mister president. Do

47
00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,400
Speaker 4: it in a smart way, and they would get a

48
00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,840
Speaker 4: lot of love for doing that, But man, they cannot

49
00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:17,800
Speaker 4: bring themselves to do it.

50
00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,560
Speaker 2: The lefton is on the wrong side of this.

51
00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:23,400
Speaker 4: This, of course, is President Trump saying he's going into Chicago.

52
00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,440
Speaker 4: I will bring you that story and the reaction from

53
00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:30,440
Speaker 4: the mayor Brendan Johnson, from the Governor JB. Pritzker, and

54
00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,840
Speaker 4: the lieutenant governor who's trying to teach people how.

55
00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:37,200
Speaker 2: To avoid ice. I can't make that up if you

56
00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:37,680
Speaker 2: wanted to.

57
00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,680
Speaker 3: Eighteen eighty sevens about eighteen eighty seven, they had the

58
00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:47,040
Speaker 3: Great National tar Effect and it was a group of

59
00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,840
Speaker 3: people that got together because our country was so rich,

60
00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,360
Speaker 3: they didn't know what to do with the money. We

61
00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,320
Speaker 3: had so much money, they didn't know what to do.

62
00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:59,200
Speaker 3: It was a group of very prominent people that were

63
00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:04,040
Speaker 3: set up to hand out money to everybody because we

64
00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,720
Speaker 3: were the richest we ever were proportionately we were in

65
00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,200
Speaker 3: eighteen eighty seven, around that time, even in nineteen thirteen.

66
00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,959
Speaker 3: We ended them in nineteen thirteen. How did that work out?

67
00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,520
Speaker 3: And then we went to the income tax system, and

68
00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,000
Speaker 3: then we had the depression. And by the way, a

69
00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,120
Speaker 3: lot of people try and say that O tariffs with

70
00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,440
Speaker 3: the deprediont No, they ended in nineteen thirteen, and then

71
00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,840
Speaker 3: we went to income tax and then in nineteen twenty nine,

72
00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:28,800
Speaker 3: you had the depression.

73
00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,160
Speaker 2: They did try and bring it back.

74
00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,880
Speaker 3: In nineteen thirty one thirty two, but the depression had

75
00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:34,680
Speaker 3: long started.

76
00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:39,080
Speaker 4: And if we want to be people who do away

77
00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:43,400
Speaker 4: with the income tax and just deal with tariffs, I accept.

78
00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:44,480
Speaker 3: It.

79
00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,520
Speaker 4: I'll do near anything to get rid of the income tax.

80
00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,960
Speaker 4: The income tax is a horrific idea. The income tax

81
00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,800
Speaker 4: is an abusive idea. The idea that the government is

82
00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,760
Speaker 4: your partner in your business and they provide nothing that

83
00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,760
Speaker 4: is not their job, that they're a partner in my labor.

84
00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:00,440
Speaker 2: God.

85
00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,560
Speaker 4: No, But if you want to charge luxury taxes or

86
00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,800
Speaker 4: other things, you want to have tariffs. I can choose

87
00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,680
Speaker 4: what I buy and what I don't buy, and therefore

88
00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,600
Speaker 4: I can better regulate my dollars. But if we're going

89
00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,200
Speaker 4: to now say tariffs are here to stay, but the

90
00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,960
Speaker 4: income tax has gone, well, mister President, I'm in where

91
00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:23,400
Speaker 4: do I sign? But I'm not quite sure that's gonna work.

92
00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:28,200
Speaker 4: But at least conceptually we're on it. By the way,

93
00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,000
Speaker 4: Charles Pain from Fox Business will be with us a

94
00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,960
Speaker 4: little bit later, talk about what's happening with tariffs and

95
00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:39,360
Speaker 4: whether this economy is working or not. But of course,

96
00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,680
Speaker 4: when you've got the reporters in the oval, President Trump

97
00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,760
Speaker 4: is just gonna He's gonna answer everything, and he's not stopping.

98
00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,040
Speaker 4: I love bringing this stuff. I don't know everybody else

99
00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,640
Speaker 4: feels about it. I love this stuff. I like hearing

100
00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,159
Speaker 4: it directly from him, so we can react to it.

101
00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:54,599
Speaker 4: Let's go back to President Trump.

102
00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:59,239
Speaker 3: Our country has a chance to be unbelievably rich again,

103
00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,360
Speaker 3: but it can also be unbelievably poor again. If we

104
00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,120
Speaker 3: don't win that case, our country is going to suffer

105
00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,719
Speaker 3: so greatly, so great But I think we're going to

106
00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,800
Speaker 3: have a big victory. Even if you look at the

107
00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,400
Speaker 3: people that brought the case, they're foreign oriented.

108
00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:19,839
Speaker 2: Countries have taken.

109
00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:23,520
Speaker 3: Advantage of the United States for so many years, and

110
00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,680
Speaker 3: I started with China. You know, a last term, I

111
00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,320
Speaker 3: took in hundreds of billions of dollars in tariffs from China.

112
00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,200
Speaker 3: But when COVID came, the last thing I was going

113
00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,800
Speaker 3: to do is We're going to tariff France and Italy,

114
00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,720
Speaker 3: and you know, others stayed where they were doing so badly.

115
00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,960
Speaker 3: But now we made a deal with the European Union

116
00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,120
Speaker 3: where they're paying us almost a trillion dollars and they're

117
00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:45,719
Speaker 3: happy to do it.

118
00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:47,160
Speaker 2: You know what, They're happy it's done.

119
00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,520
Speaker 3: These deals were all done, I guess.

120
00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:50,640
Speaker 2: Would have to unwind them.

121
00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,400
Speaker 3: We've done deals with Japan, with South Korea, We've done

122
00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:58,400
Speaker 3: deals with many countries and others to come. And if

123
00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:02,960
Speaker 3: we didn't have the power, prestige and dignity of tariffs,

124
00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:07,360
Speaker 3: and I used them wisely and people respect America again,

125
00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,919
Speaker 3: and we've become a rich country again. The money coming

126
00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,840
Speaker 3: in is incredible. And again they use them in US.

127
00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,320
Speaker 3: If we didn't have them, they would use them on us,

128
00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,360
Speaker 3: and we would have no way to fight them.

129
00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:20,520
Speaker 2: We would be a third world nation.

130
00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,279
Speaker 3: So I think it's one of the most important cases

131
00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,400
Speaker 3: I've ever seen go before the Supreme Court of the US.

132
00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,720
Speaker 5: Gladimir puts in a two week deadline to agree to

133
00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,400
Speaker 5: talks with Vladimir Zelensky.

134
00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,880
Speaker 2: That deadline is now near the approachable.

135
00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:42,080
Speaker 4: That conversation about the Supreme Court is about tariffs and

136
00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,360
Speaker 4: whether or not the president is allowed to use certain

137
00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:50,520
Speaker 4: economic emergency regulations to say we're going to engage these tariffs.

138
00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:56,640
Speaker 4: I don't see how he doesn't have the case, and

139
00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:00,480
Speaker 4: I don't see how the argument is against him from

140
00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,680
Speaker 4: doing so. I also want to be clear, it is

141
00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:08,560
Speaker 4: not the end of the world if he can't, because

142
00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,240
Speaker 4: they would be saying that the president cannot do this

143
00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:15,480
Speaker 4: since the tariff is attacks, which it is, it would

144
00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,800
Speaker 4: have to come via Congress, to which Congress should just

145
00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,960
Speaker 4: go done.

146
00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,960
Speaker 2: Now, if the majorities that we have in the House.

147
00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:29,040
Speaker 4: In the Senate are not enough to be able to

148
00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:33,960
Speaker 4: get that accomplished, can't be done via reconciliationary level, simple majority,

149
00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:39,320
Speaker 4: well then that is your conversation regarding twenty twenty six

150
00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:43,280
Speaker 4: in the midterms November three. Understand that I oppose the tariffs.

151
00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,240
Speaker 4: If the tariff is going to replace the income tax

152
00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:50,560
Speaker 4: and fine, but as a concept, we're charging ourselves billions

153
00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,840
Speaker 4: of dollars and I'm not so sure that the result

154
00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,400
Speaker 4: has come in super strong yet and its effect on

155
00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,600
Speaker 4: the economy, well was It's all about how.

156
00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,320
Speaker 2: You look at it, because in some ways real effect,

157
00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,360
Speaker 2: in some ways no effect at all. It's crazy.

158
00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,200
Speaker 4: Part of my conversation with Charles Paying from Fox Business

159
00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:07,160
Speaker 4: coming up.

160
00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:10,720
Speaker 2: But I would be opposed.

161
00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,520
Speaker 4: But if this is the Republican Party that says we

162
00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,440
Speaker 4: are in lockstep about creating a different economic reality, and

163
00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,120
Speaker 4: going about a different approach with President Trump, will then

164
00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,680
Speaker 4: pass it? All right, you won't get Thomas Massey, but

165
00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,280
Speaker 4: you get the rest. You won't get Ran Paul in

166
00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:30,040
Speaker 4: the Senate. Right, Massey has something about Kentucky. But pass it.

167
00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,920
Speaker 4: Give it a go. If that's the case. Now, if

168
00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,000
Speaker 4: you can't get it through, well that's a different thing.

169
00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,319
Speaker 4: But also we are forgetting that there might be other

170
00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,880
Speaker 4: vehicles to which the President can utilize to engage these tariffs.

171
00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:49,480
Speaker 4: So it isn't dire the way the President puts it.

172
00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,160
Speaker 4: I just want to be clear about that. But it'd

173
00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,920
Speaker 4: be really interesting if he says to Congress pass it,

174
00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:57,160
Speaker 4: and Republicans are like.

175
00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:01,080
Speaker 2: Na, we thought about it, and.

176
00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,240
Speaker 4: Let's bring it back to this press conference here with

177
00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,000
Speaker 4: the president of Poland.

178
00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:11,320
Speaker 2: Oh a lot of Yemen.

179
00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,920
Speaker 5: Oh no, there ah, you see, it's over. They're pushing

180
00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,720
Speaker 5: them out, that is the official. We're pushing you out

181
00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:24,840
Speaker 5: of the meeting. We don't want to deal with you anymore. Goodbye,

182
00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:25,720
Speaker 5: see you later.

183
00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:27,240
Speaker 2: It was nice knowing.

184
00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:33,360
Speaker 4: It, and off they go. The President is going to

185
00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:40,560
Speaker 4: send in troops to Chicago. The question is is Chicago

186
00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,080
Speaker 4: well prepared to deal with this interrational way? And the

187
00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:50,640
Speaker 4: answer is, oh gosh, oh gosh, no, not at all

188
00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:52,080
Speaker 4: that is coming up.

189
00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,000
Speaker 2: Keep it here. I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz

190
00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:55,280
Speaker 2: Today