1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: Lie from the heartland and the crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. 3 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 2: What we know. 4 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 3: Is that everything that we made assumption about regarding the 5 00:00:54,320 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 3: assassin of Charlie Kirk's accurate. We knew that this was 6 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 3: an activist or of types. We knew this is somebody 7 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 3: who has radicalized. We knew this is somebody from the 8 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 3: progressive left, and everything has turned out to be accurate 9 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 3: on those points. 10 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 2: We should just say so. 11 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 3: All of Americas should say so, and they should not 12 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 3: feel that somehow they can't say so or scream but 13 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 3: Trump and but right wing extremism and all the rest. 14 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 3: I don't think we should ever avoid a story. I 15 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 3: am not in favor of avoiding stories. I do not 16 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 3: avoid stories. But dear Lord, the assassin was a progressive 17 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 3: in a romantic relationship with a man who thought he 18 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 3: was a woman, or thought that he could become a woman. 19 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 2: So both of them were mentally ill. 20 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 3: And if you feed into mental illness, can I ask, 21 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 3: what exactly do you think you're going to get other 22 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 3: than a serious problem. Tony Katz, Tony kats today, good 23 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 3: to be with you. Find everything over at Tony Katz 24 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 3: dot com. Super easy to do. Utah will seek the 25 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 3: death penalty. We found that out yesterday. Of course, Governor 26 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:19,119 Speaker 3: Spencer Cox had mentioned that the suspect and I don't 27 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 3: use names, appeared in court via video link, staring Stone 28 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 3: faced directly into the camera, only speaking to confirm his name. 29 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 2: That was it wearing. They keep saying he was wearing 30 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:39,119 Speaker 2: the anti suicide vest. It's like a smock. It was actually. 31 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 3: Developed and created so you can't hang yourself with it. 32 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 3: Do I understand that's what it is. It's just it 33 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 3: won't allow you to do certain things to it to 34 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 3: allow you to inflict harm upon yourself. We saw the 35 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 3: text messages. Now, the text messages. 36 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:06,959 Speaker 2: Are really so. The text messages are this. 37 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 3: Weird, weird back and forth between the murderer and the 38 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 3: roommate to which he was having some type of romantic relationship, 39 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 3: to which the roommate actually states, you weren't the one 40 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 3: who did it, right, And the killer responds, I am, 41 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. The roommate says, I thought they caught the person, 42 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 3: and Robinson says, no, they grabbed some crazy old dude 43 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 3: then interrogated someone in similar clothing. 44 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 2: Now, a little follow up to that. 45 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 3: In one of the weirder stories within this story. The 46 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 3: guy that they first thought was the suspect. Remember they 47 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 3: took someone in custody, older white guy. That guy started screaming, 48 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 3: I did it. 49 00:03:59,040 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 2: Forgive me. 50 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 3: I thought it was a good knees, which is a 51 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 3: really weird thing to do when you're doing a live sham, 52 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 3: very frightening. 53 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 2: Right there. He was this older white. 54 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 3: Dude and he was screaming, I shot him, now shoot me. 55 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 3: And he was taken into custody and he said, I'm 56 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 3: not going to answer questions and Amanda Lawyer all these things. 57 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 3: Turns out he didn't even know who the shooter was, 58 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 3: but he started screaming that I did it so he 59 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 3: could help whoever shot Charlie Kirk get away. 60 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 2: Let me say that again. 61 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 3: The guy that we thought was the shooter at first, 62 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 3: this older white guy who was screaming shoot me, shoot me, 63 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 3: I shot him, meaning I shot Charlie Kirk, now shoot me, 64 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 3: had no connection to the actual assassin who is now 65 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 3: in custody and who we're talking about the text chain 66 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 3: of But rather was a guy in the crowd who 67 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 3: wanted to take the fall to help whoever shot Charlie 68 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 3: Kirk escape that's nuts. 69 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 2: That is stunning. 70 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 3: Officers actually asked that guy where's the gun, and he's like, 71 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 3: I'm not going to tell you. So he's now being 72 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 3: charged with obstruction because well, that's exactly what he did. 73 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 3: So you go back to the to the text messages 74 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 3: and the roommate says, why'd you do it? 75 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 2: And the. 76 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 3: Assassin says, I had enough of his hatred, some hate 77 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 3: camping negotiated out. If I am able to grab my 78 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 3: rifle unseen, I will have left no evidence. Going to 79 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 3: attempt to retrieve it again. Hopefully they have moved on. 80 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 3: I haven't seen anything about them finding it. How long 81 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 3: have you been planning this? A bit over a week, 82 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 3: so this was indeed planned. Some hate can't be negotiated out. Well, 83 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 3: there's a society you don't want to live in. Society 84 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 3: where you hate someone and you feel the only thing 85 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 3: left to do is shoot them from two hundred yards 86 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 3: in front of their wife and children. That is not 87 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 3: a society long for this world. This text chain is peculiar. 88 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 2: It is odd. It is. 89 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 3: Do people just so admit to everything like so in 90 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 3: the open they know it's going to be found. He 91 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 3: didn't know that his roommate was going to show this 92 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 3: to the police. He didn't know the police we're going 93 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 3: to ask about this information, didn't know that, didn't know that. 94 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 3: I find that hard to believe. Harder to believe or 95 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 3: maybe not is the idea that over at ABC, a 96 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 3: reporter by the name of Matt Gutman commenting on the story. 97 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 2: Well, here he is, in his own words, with. 98 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 4: Such specific text messages about the alleged murder weapon, where 99 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 4: it was hidden, how it was placed, what was on it. 100 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 4: But also it was very touching in a way that 101 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 4: I think many of us didn't expect, a very intimate 102 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 4: portrait into this relationship between the suspect's roommate and the 103 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 4: suspect himself, with him repeatedly calling his roommate, who was transitioning, 104 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 4: calling him my love and I want to protect you, 105 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 4: my love. 106 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 3: That's ABC telling, Oh, yeah, he assassinated Charlie Kirk, but 107 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 3: you know he had a lot of love in his heart. 108 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:11,119 Speaker 2: It was actually quite touching. We live in a very 109 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 2: very odd time. 110 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 3: When you could think that that is an appropriate thing 111 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 3: to be reporting on, to be saying that at all 112 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 3: moments we have to be like, well, what about the 113 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 3: killer isn't he a victim too? And if you're like, well, 114 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 3: this's the first time I've ever heard this. Do you 115 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 3: don't remember the Sarnev brother being on the cover of 116 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 3: Rolling Stone? 117 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 2: Oh? 118 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 3: Sure, he was the bomber of the Boston massacre, but 119 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 3: he just seems like he's so sweet, like he'd be 120 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 3: just a pop star and the girls just swoon over him. 121 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 3: That reporter Matt Guttman has apologized putting out yesterday. I 122 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 3: tried to underscore the darting contrast between this cold blooded 123 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 3: assassination of Charlie Kirk, a man who dedicated his life 124 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 3: to public dialogue, and the personal, disturbing text read aloud 125 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 3: by the Utah County Attorney at the press conference. I 126 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 3: deeply regret that my words did not make that clear. 127 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 3: But let there be zero doubt here, writes to Matt Gutman, 128 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 3: I unequivocally condemned this horrific crime and the pain that 129 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 3: caused Charlie Kirk's family, those who are forced to witness 130 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 3: it at university at Utah Valley University, and the millions 131 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 3: of people he inspired. I will leave it to you 132 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 3: to whether or not you would accept such an apology. 133 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 3: Whether or not you agree or believe that he is 134 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 3: doing so. But before you do, let me bring you 135 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 3: now to the commentary of Montel Williams on CNN. 136 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 5: There are people who are trying to pigeonhole this as 137 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 5: a leftist thing and a right thing. And what we're 138 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 5: really talking about, hear me, I'm going to throw you 139 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:04,199 Speaker 5: when I say this. We're talking about a love torn child, 140 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 5: a kid. This is probably his first real relationship and 141 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 5: somebody was disparaging the person that he loved. 142 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 2: He sat on that building. 143 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 5: For thirty minutes before he took the shot. Why do 144 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 5: you wait until the first word trance came up? 145 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 2: Then he took the shot. You think he heard it, 146 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:21,599 Speaker 2: he could hear it. 147 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 5: I think he could hear it. I think he also. 148 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 5: I don't believe he was motivated politically. I think this 149 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 5: was motivated emotionally. 150 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 2: You can argue that he was motivated emotionally, but. 151 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 3: The concept itself of recognizing that men are not women 152 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 3: and women are not men has become political because we've 153 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 3: had to go to the law to be able to 154 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 3: protect children on this subject. Because people want to sue 155 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 3: or not being called the right pronoun as if I 156 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 3: am in any way somehow subject to your madness of 157 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 3: what pronoun. 158 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 2: You want to be called. That is not the way 159 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 2: the world works. 160 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,079 Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, it should be clear that 161 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 3: the people who are on the side of the quote 162 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 3: unquote trans. 163 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 2: Are the abusers. 164 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 3: They are abusive, telling me how I have to talk, 165 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 3: telling me how I have to address people, who the 166 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 3: hell are you? That is not the way it works. 167 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 3: I am not your subject. I am not going to 168 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 3: live in fear. You don't get to do that to me. 169 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 3: You don't get to do that to any of us. 170 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 3: You don't get to walk in the door and say 171 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 3: we change culture completely, and if you don't abide, we'll 172 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 3: first scream that you're leading children to suicide and then 173 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 3: will kill you, oh, or will kill the kids at 174 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 3: a Annunciation school in Minneapolis or at the Catholic school 175 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 3: in Nashville. 176 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:50,719 Speaker 2: You don't get to do that. 177 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 3: Secondly, a Montelle, this was a twenty two year old, 178 00:11:55,080 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 3: not a kid, not a kid. Not a kid. Now, 179 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 3: if you're a parent of a twenty two year old, 180 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 3: twenty two year old is still kid. Absolutely true. Some 181 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 3: twenty two year olds have already spent three years at war. 182 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 3: The story here is that we are a society that 183 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 3: has allowed for the uplifting of mental illness, and we 184 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 3: need to be discussing what happens when you encourage mental 185 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 3: illness and the effect this has on everybody around it. 186 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 3: You play to mental illness, you lift up mental illness, 187 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 3: and then you feel that, my gosh, look. 188 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 2: What they're doing to this person. I have to now, 189 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 2: every single conversation about. 190 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 3: Trans this, trans that trans the other has always been 191 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 3: a conversation about you're trying to erase me. 192 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 2: No one is erasing you. This is the lie. This 193 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 2: is to put you on defense. You're right there. 194 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 3: I see you, and you see you, but you keep 195 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 3: telling me you're a woman when you're not. And I'm 196 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 3: not going to acknowledge that that's not erasing you. That's 197 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 3: actually showing you who you are and the help that 198 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:27,719 Speaker 3: you need. And I didn't say it was easy. I 199 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 3: didn't say should be mocked. I didn't say she's be 200 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 3: ridiculed or shamed or attacked. But honesty requires me to say, 201 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 3: you are not being erased, you. 202 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 2: Are being shown who you actually are. You just don't 203 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 2: like what you see. 204 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 3: We're going to have this conversation. We're gonna have it 205 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 3: all the way down to the end degree. The people 206 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 3: who push the trans insanity on America are people who 207 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 3: are desperate to detroy Western civilization. And what better to 208 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:59,599 Speaker 3: destroy Western civilization than totally totally warp the concepts of 209 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 3: the truth to put away and put an end to 210 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 3: the idea of standards and borders, and then. 211 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 2: Oh by way, assassinate people for speaking just following things 212 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:14,719 Speaker 2: to their end conclusion. 213 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 3: And if you want to agree with Montel Williams that 214 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 3: indeed it was emotional because I could see that maybe 215 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 3: there's an argument there. It doesn't take away from the rest, 216 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 3: and it doesn't change the rest that it was political terrorism. 217 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 3: A love lorn child, maybe a love lord. Twenty two 218 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 3: year old is an assassin, that's what is. That's who 219 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 3: this guy is. Planned it out cold, calculating where am 220 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 3: I gonna put this? How am I gonna grab Grandpa's rifle? 221 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 3: Because it was grandpa's rifle. He was very concerned they 222 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 3: wasn't gonna get the gun because his father was going 223 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 3: to be so. 224 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 2: Mad at him. That's what he was concerned with. Planned out. 225 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 3: The killer texted the roommate and said, stop what you're doing. 226 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 3: And read the note underneath my keyboard. It was the 227 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 3: note underneath the keyboard that said I had the chance 228 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 3: to kill Charlie Kirk, and I took my shot. That's 229 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 3: pretty planned out. But now we have two examples of 230 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 3: the media trying to explain to you that what happened 231 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 3: here is really understandable and actually quite sweet. 232 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 2: And then you have those people in the. 233 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 3: Media who want to tell you we don't have a 234 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 3: motive yet. 235 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 2: We don't have a motive yet. 236 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 3: That's only the mainstream media could tell you such insanity. 237 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 2: Keep it here. This is Tony Katz today.