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Speaker 3: Yes, indeed, listen carefully when I say it. If you

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Speaker 3: The Indianapolis Colts. There are six undefeated teams in the

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Speaker 3: and the bachelorette parties Eddie that are all over Nashville.

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Speaker 3: Jake? Why not Indiana? Is indeed correct, Eddie. When you

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Speaker 3: It's fish. The putter out there on the field is

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Speaker 9: This Indiana football team is feeling like they can eat

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Speaker 9: Illinois launch.

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Speaker 3: Any moment, anytime they want to.

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Speaker 4: Here they come across the field.

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Speaker 3: Both ball clubs will shake hands.

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Speaker 9: Now in Indiana blows away the fighter. Alanai of Illinois

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Speaker 9: tonight to the tune of sixty three to ten.

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Speaker 4: The voice of the Hoosiers, Don Fisher joining Query in

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Speaker 4: Company on ninety three five and one oh seven five

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Speaker 4: the fan.

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Speaker 3: That's how it sounded. You just heard him on the call,

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Speaker 3: Don Fisher, the voice of the Hoosiers as Indiana sets

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Speaker 3: a record for the most points ever against a Top

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Speaker 3: ten team in the history of the Big Ten Conference.

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Speaker 3: And he joined us now to talk about that and more.

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Speaker 3: And Don, I gotta be honest with you as I'm

447
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Speaker 3: watching the game and then we were watching it and

448
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Speaker 3: then listening to it on my drive, and I thought

449
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Speaker 3: to myself, you know, Don Fisher, for the first couple

450
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Speaker 3: of years that he was doing Indiana football probably didn't

451
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Speaker 3: have a lot of times where he got to say

452
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Speaker 3: touchdown Indiana, and he got to make up for all

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Speaker 3: in one night, which was nice of them.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 3: That was an unbelievable performance and that has to be

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Speaker 3: would you agree, as electric a night atmosphere as you

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Speaker 3: have ever seen at Memorial Stadium.

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Speaker 10: It goes down as number one in my book. I've

459
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Speaker 10: not seen anything like that in a long time. I've

460
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Speaker 10: not seen anything like our crowds basically for a long

461
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Speaker 10: time like this either. And the chaos, the noise, the excitement,

462
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Speaker 10: the flags waving, the atmosphere at Indiana University right now

463
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Speaker 10: at home football games is absolutely electric. And I hope

464
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Speaker 10: it continues for the rest of the season and for

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Speaker 10: as long as I keep doing in games, because it

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Speaker 10: makes it more fun.

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Speaker 11: If you know what I made, don it.

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Speaker 3: Here's what's remarkable. And I want you to tell me

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Speaker 3: if you agree or disagree with this, Don Fisher, our guest.

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Speaker 3: The thing about this this team, and the same is

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Speaker 3: true of last year with Indiana. And I mean this

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Speaker 3: in the most complimentary ways, but that is that if

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Speaker 3: I had to pinpoint what it is that makes them efficient,

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Speaker 3: that makes them good, I just keep going back to

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Speaker 3: the answer of I don't know. They're just efficient and good.

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Speaker 3: You know, they just they do not make mistakes, and

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Speaker 3: I guess they kind of just put other teams in

478
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Speaker 3: position where you're waiting for the other team to make

479
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Speaker 3: a mistake and capitalize on it. I can't pinpoint it

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Speaker 3: if it were up to you to assess what it is,

481
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Speaker 3: what is it this team and this program is doing

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Speaker 3: that is different.

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Speaker 10: You know, It's it is hard to pinpoint. There's no

484
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Speaker 10: question because and maybe maybe the one thing that I

485
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Speaker 10: can tell you or explain this a little bit better

486
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Speaker 10: would be in our pregame on Saturday with Bucks Sewer,

487
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Speaker 10: we had to fill time for about fifteen minutes at

488
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Speaker 10: the outset of our broadcast because the kickoff was going

489
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Speaker 10: to take place twenty minutes later than seven thirty. NBC

490
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Speaker 10: obviously had something to do with that, and actually had

491
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Speaker 10: most to do with.

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Speaker 11: It because of.

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Speaker 10: The time constraights for their first game but for doing

494
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Speaker 10: Notre Dame, and they had a problem with weather delay

495
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Speaker 10: at West Lafayette. Anyway, long story short, South Bend, but

496
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Speaker 10: long story short.

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Speaker 11: Bucks Sewer went on the air with me.

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Speaker 10: We talked about this Illinois ball club and Bucks said,

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Speaker 10: I've watched.

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Speaker 11: A lot of film on Illinois. I've watched them.

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Speaker 10: I've watched them in two or three different versions of

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Speaker 10: themselves this past year. I looked at the Duke game

503
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Speaker 10: again this morning, he said, And then he said, I

504
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Speaker 10: can't find one thing that I think Illinois is better

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Speaker 10: at than Indiana on the field. I said, what he said,

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Speaker 10: I don't see one thing that Indiana is not better

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Speaker 10: than Illinois at on the field. And I said, well,

508
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Speaker 10: that means Indiana is going to win in a big way.

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Speaker 10: And here's the thing, Buck is, right, what does this

510
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Speaker 10: team do different than everybody else. I don't know that

511
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Speaker 10: they do a ton of things different. They just do

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Speaker 10: everything a little bit better. And I think this team

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Speaker 10: is one of the best I've seen. And what we've

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Speaker 10: seen the last two years, we've seen two teams that

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Speaker 10: beat them. Last year, they were just better teams. They

516
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Speaker 10: had more personnel, they had better talent. And this team

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Speaker 10: this year, we haven't seen them against great competition yet.

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Speaker 10: And I include Illinois and that because they got exposed

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Speaker 10: on Saturday. But at the same time, what does Indiana

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Speaker 10: do That's that's poor literally nothing. No, that's just a

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Speaker 10: matter of personnel. So it becomes matter of personnel, that's it.

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Speaker 3: And I'm watching the game at the beginning, okay, And

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Speaker 3: I was going back to the conversation we had with you,

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Speaker 3: and you're exactly right on this when you talk about

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Speaker 3: you know, Illinois, Indiana limited Illinois to two rushing yards

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Speaker 3: two two rushing yards on Saturday night. And that Illinois

527
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Speaker 3: offensive line is massive. I mean, and they're a good line.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's not like they're there. You know, there's

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Speaker 3: one thing to just be big guys and then not

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Speaker 3: being I mean, that is a good and massive offensive line.

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Speaker 3: And yet Indiana defensively with their whether it be their speed,

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Speaker 3: they're there. They absolutely had their way with them, and

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Speaker 3: that to me, that to me, don was the biggest

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Speaker 3: area of surprise. Did that surprise you the way Indiana's

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Speaker 3: defensive line was able to co completely control things?

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Speaker 10: I would have said to you had I not done

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Speaker 10: the talk show with Kurt Signetti on Thursday of last week,

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Speaker 10: that it would have surprised me. But when Kurt Signetti

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Speaker 10: told me off air during a commercial break, I said,

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Speaker 10: you know, Illinois offensive line is massive, coach, how are

541
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Speaker 10: you going to deal with that? And he says, massive

542
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Speaker 10: doesn't mean they're fast or quick, and he said it

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Speaker 10: in such a matter of fact way as if to

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Speaker 10: tell me we're just quicker and we're and we're better

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Speaker 10: than they are in that sense.

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Speaker 4: I'm here.

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Speaker 10: Here's the bottom line here, Jake, is that Kurt Signetti

548
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Speaker 10: and his staff are tremendous coaches. They coach the heck

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Speaker 10: out of their kids, and they do it in such

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Speaker 10: a way that these kids buy in and it's just

551
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Speaker 10: a if they're going to get beat, it's going to

552
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Speaker 10: because the other team has more talent, right, more skill,

553
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Speaker 10: whatever the case may be. It's not going to be

554
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Speaker 10: because these guys don't know what they're doing, because that's

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Speaker 10: absolutely a false statement if you say, Indiana, you know,

556
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Speaker 10: these kids don't know what they're doing, because they know

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Speaker 10: exactly what they're doing, because they practice the crap out

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Speaker 10: of it and they are just phenomenal at executing it.

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Speaker 3: You know, at the beginning of the season, Fernando Mendoza

560
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Speaker 3: had said, I think it was after game one don

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Speaker 3: that he felt like he still needed to kind of

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Speaker 3: get his footing underneath him, and he had. You know,

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Speaker 3: certainly the stats and the pedigree at Cal in coming

564
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Speaker 3: to Indiana and Curtis work was a darn good quarterback

565
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Speaker 3: for Indiana year ago, one of the best we've seen

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Speaker 3: in Bloomington, and so there were some big shoes to

567
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Speaker 3: fill there. But clearly with that Illinois game, what we

568
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Speaker 3: saw is that he had a I mean such a

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Speaker 3: firm control of that offense. Is that based on the

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Speaker 3: coaching staff just saying to him, hey, you know, let

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Speaker 3: it slow, let the game come to you a little

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Speaker 3: bit and slow it down from that game one say

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Speaker 3: to now, or is that just the veteran ability of

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Speaker 3: a Mendoza being an upperclassman of just having the confidence

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Speaker 3: to continue to do the reps and have that kind

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Speaker 3: of a breakout game.

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Speaker 11: Well, here's here's what I know.

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Speaker 10: When players come to Indiana Now, if they don't buy

579
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Speaker 10: in to what the coaches are teaching, they aren't playing

580
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Speaker 10: or they're gone.

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Speaker 11: It's that simple.

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Speaker 10: And Kurt Signetti and his staff do a phenomenal job

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Speaker 10: of getting guys to understand that. And Fernando it comes

584
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Speaker 10: to Indiana after being chased all over the football field

585
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Speaker 10: a year ago, dealing with forty six or forty seven sacks.

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Speaker 10: I think they said that he was sacked last year,

587
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Speaker 10: obviously comes in. He's good at a little skitty because

588
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Speaker 10: he doesn't want to get hit again, and he wasn't,

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Speaker 10: of course in the spring practice, but he has a

590
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Speaker 10: little happy feet when he got here, and that kind

591
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Speaker 10: of dissipated through spring practice and he was much better.

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Speaker 10: Sick said he was better in the last three or

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Speaker 10: four practices of spring, and then when they got to

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Speaker 10: the fall, he said he continue to make progress. Well,

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Speaker 10: the progress that he's made shows you two things. Number One,

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Speaker 10: he is a veteran. He's been in the war, so

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Speaker 10: to speak. And number two, he's being coached dramatically well.

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Speaker 10: And the thing about Fernando that we still don't know

599
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Speaker 10: at this point is how much more improvement he can make,

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Speaker 10: because if you look at the last two games, he

601
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Speaker 10: has completed forty of forty three passes for ten for

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Speaker 10: ten touchdowns. I've never seen a completion rate by anybody

603
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Speaker 10: that's of forty three. It's just astounding. And obviously he

604
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Speaker 10: has things that he keeps talking about after ballgames. I

605
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 10: got to get better at this, and I got to

606
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Speaker 10: get better at that. I mean, think about that. And again,

607
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Speaker 10: is he a perfect quarterback. No, nobody is. But he's

608
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Speaker 10: a guy that's learning and every week he tries to

609
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Speaker 10: put into play the things that he has learned that

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Speaker 10: have helped him become better in that week's performance. And

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Speaker 10: that's all it's all about. And that's one of Kurt

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Speaker 10: Signetti's philosophies.

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Speaker 11: Get better every day.

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Speaker 10: Now, we hear a lot of coaches say that, but

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Speaker 10: how many of them actually do And we're certainly seeing

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Speaker 10: that with Fernando Mendoz.

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Speaker 3: Now, I just think, you know, one of the things,

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Speaker 3: and there's a very fine line with this when it

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Speaker 3: comes to coaching. Right of confidence and I'll say borishness.

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Speaker 3: I don't mean that Kurt Signetti is, but I mean

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Speaker 3: you see that in coaches. But you know, late in

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Speaker 3: that game, they a couple of times they showed Kurt

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Speaker 3: Signetti on the sidelines and I think the thing that

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Speaker 3: jumped out at me down and I'm curious if you know,

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Speaker 3: I think you noticed this probably the first week you

626
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 3: around this guy. But there just was this epiphany of

627
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 3: you know what, everybody can talk about what Indiana's doing

628
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Speaker 3: against Illinois, but that guy on the sideline with the

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Speaker 3: headset on expected that. I'm not saying he expected him

630
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Speaker 3: to win like that. I'm not saying he disrespected Illinois.

631
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Speaker 3: I'm saying he expects his team to be in this

632
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Speaker 3: situation week in and week out and doesn't even seem

633
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Speaker 3: content with it. Just all business, which I love, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's all business.

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Speaker 11: That's exactly correct.

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Speaker 10: There is nothing but the business at Hay with Kurt Signetti,

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Speaker 10: and there's a standard and he talks about that when

638
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 10: Signetti you listen to a good press conference and somebody

639
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,760
Speaker 10: asks him a question about, uh, how do these guys

640
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 10: to buy in? Well, we have a standard here, you know,

641
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Speaker 10: We've got a standard. We expect you to match or

642
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 10: at least reach that standard. If you can't do that,

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Speaker 10: you're probably not.

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Speaker 11: Going to play.

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Speaker 10: And if you do play, you're probably not going to

646
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Speaker 10: play very long because you're not reaching the standard that

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Speaker 10: we expect.

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Speaker 11: So there are the expectations.

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Speaker 10: I would say this, Jake, that the expectations for Kurt

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Speaker 10: Signetti are he raises the bar every single day. He

651
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Speaker 10: expects your team to get better and if you're not

652
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Speaker 10: getting better, you're getting worse. So and that's the only

653
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Speaker 10: way you can be a great football team if you're

654
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Speaker 10: getting better day after day. And that's the standard that

655
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Speaker 10: he sets. And that's why I think, you know, when

656
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Speaker 10: you watch him on the sidelines during football games, you

657
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Speaker 10: almost well at this point and I'm not down there

658
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Speaker 10: watching him, but I've never seen smile. He's not smiling

659
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Speaker 10: and and and he's always there's always something you can

660
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Speaker 10: do better.

661
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Speaker 11: And he in.

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Speaker 10: Our press conference today, he starts talking about the fact

663
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Speaker 10: that you know, yeah, it was a great win. It

664
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Speaker 10: was a really good win for us. We really we

665
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Speaker 10: did a lot of really good things. But he said

666
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Speaker 10: there was so much to look at in the film

667
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Speaker 10: afterwards that we've got to clean up he was talking about,

668
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Speaker 10: especially on the defensive side of the football. There were

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Speaker 10: four or five plays he said, were we just didn't

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Speaker 10: get it done. And he's so his standard is this.

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Speaker 10: It's it doesn't have to be perfect, but it's got

672
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Speaker 10: to be close. And my goodness, were they close on Saturday.

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Speaker 3: I think the standard is he goes over on Friday

674
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Speaker 3: night and watches Edgewood and sees him get a shut

675
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Speaker 3: out for the third time in five weeks and says,

676
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Speaker 3: all right, let's go right, is that what it is?

677
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Speaker 3: He sees the Mustangs at five and oh, coming off

678
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Speaker 3: of thirty five nothing shutout, and he's like, all right, guys,

679
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Speaker 3: precedents there, let's go.

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Speaker 10: Well, this may sound like a coach's dad, but I'm

681
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Speaker 10: really proud of my son.

682
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Speaker 11: Number one, but number two, they haven't played anybody.

683
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Speaker 10: But the best scene that they played and they were

684
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Speaker 10: one a team that was right number one in the

685
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Speaker 10: in the standings of the state at that high but

686
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Speaker 10: they still haven't played anybody yet. And believe me, what

687
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 10: my son's done so far has really made me proud

688
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Speaker 10: because he's had to build it from the ground up,

689
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Speaker 10: and in the two years he's been there, they really

690
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 10: took their lumps, but suddenly they're having some success and

691
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 10: it's really special to watch that happen and see how

692
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Speaker 10: that program is evolving at this point. It didn't happen

693
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Speaker 10: like it didn't happen like Kurtzygnetti coming to Edgewood and

694
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Speaker 10: all of a sudden finding the tools that he needs.

695
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Speaker 10: Because you've got a pretty much at a high school level,

696
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Speaker 10: you got to work with what you got and when

697
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Speaker 10: he first got there, and it's not a knock on

698
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Speaker 10: the kids, but the program was suffering because they had

699
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Speaker 10: so many years of failure, and so at this point

700
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Speaker 10: we're excited and we're really proud of what we've seen.

701
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Speaker 10: But it's the real season is about to start for

702
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Speaker 10: them too, because they're going to face their toughest challenges

703
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Speaker 10: here in the next four weeks.

704
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Speaker 3: Edgewood coming up by the way, they got Beech Grove

705
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Speaker 3: coming up on Friday, and then after that it is

706
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Speaker 3: Sullivan and Ask for Indiana up next at Iowa, and

707
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Speaker 3: then of course a big showdown with Oregon as well.

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Speaker 3: Don appreciate the time as always and certainly hope you

709
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Speaker 3: enjoyed that Saturday night because that was pretty special.

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Speaker 11: It was special love question. I enjoyed it immensely.

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Speaker 3: I'll bet Don appreciate it.

712
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 11: You bet to see it.

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Speaker 3: Don Fisher, the voice of the Indiana, who's just joining

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Speaker 3: us we come back. I'll read off some of the headlines,

715
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Speaker 3: the three word headlines that you have about the colts

716
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 3: there now three and oh and dare I say best

717
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 3: in the AFC. They may be certainly offensively. Their efficiency

718
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 3: would tell you that Mike chappelill going to join us

719
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Speaker 3: in fourteen as well. So now I get confused by

720
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Speaker 3: this because I know that it was earth wind and

721
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Speaker 3: fire day yesterday, right, because today's the twenty second? Is that?

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Speaker 11: Right?

723
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Speaker 2: Was it yesterday or today? Because it's asking do you remember?

724
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Speaker 3: It's a very good point.

725
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 2: Excellent you remember the twenty first night of September like

726
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Speaker 2: you would have to be past December twenty first, three

727
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Speaker 2: remember or September twenty first to remember that, right?

728
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Speaker 3: Excellent point, Very good point. Now is today you tell

729
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Speaker 3: me I have no idea on this because I'm not

730
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Speaker 3: one of these meteorological people. Okay, okay, you know, like

731
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Speaker 3: get like on December the tenth when you say, like, man,

732
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Speaker 3: it is freezing. It's just been a terrible winter and

733
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 3: people like, it's not actually winter. We're at the end

734
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Speaker 3: of autumn. Meteorological winter does not began until you. Okay, listen,

735
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Speaker 3: I scraped my windshoew this morning. It's winter. Are we

736
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Speaker 3: in fall yet? Are we in autumn? It is today,

737
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Speaker 3: the first day of autumn, the first day of fall. Yeah,

738
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Speaker 3: the August twenty of September. So today is the first

739
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Speaker 3: day of fall and it's raining now. The leaves haven't

740
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Speaker 3: started falling yet, right, No, they have not.

741
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Speaker 2: They haven't gotten the uh missus query PSA yet, Jake

742
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 2: can I cannot wait for this year, no matter of time.

743
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Speaker 2: It was a toxic myths last year, mixed last year.

744
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 2: I wonder what it was what it will be this year,

745
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 2: no question, right, yes.

746
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Speaker 3: But so far as you transition from summer into fall here,

747
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 3: which does sound weird to say.

748
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Speaker 2: By the way, we are fully up and running now

749
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Speaker 2: on YouTube, Facebook and x so you would like to

750
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 2: watch Jake on the cameras, you can do so now.

751
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 2: Thank you for sticking with us through the issues. The

752
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 2: computer streaming computer died over the weekend and Falan Watson

753
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 2: camp Blanken Jumper on it.

754
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Speaker 3: The computer died, did they go straight office space on it.

755
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 3: It was like Illinois, he just did one turn on.

756
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 3: They just went out and threw on the ghetto boys

757
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 3: and took a baseball bat and that was the end

758
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 3: of that. So yesterday I asked the question, as I

759
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 3: do after each and every game. One thing I did notice,

760
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 3: I said, tell me three words your thoughts. Tell me

761
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:46,919
Speaker 3: in three words your thoughts on the twenty twenty five

762
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 3: Colts through three games. Now, with each passing week of this,

763
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 3: and this happened last year, I believe I get fewer

764
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 3: and fewer replies, still get in the hundreds. But maybe

765
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 3: people are just getting used to it now, right, Maybe

766
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,760
Speaker 3: people are just simply accustomed to this reading you some

767
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 3: of the replies exceeding all expectations. This from my buddy

768
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 3: Larry Langley. Good game planning. There's some truth to that.

769
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:20,439
Speaker 3: Shane Stikeen is calling masterfully the offensive plays. I think

770
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 3: Decatur to Daniel Jones and what he is doing. Pat

771
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 3: Sullivan's solid football team. Anthony QB Play Matters. That's a

772
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 3: really good one from Anthony and QB Play Matters. It's

773
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 3: hard to argue that because and I felt bad for

774
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 3: Anthony richardson late in the game when he came in,

775
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 3: because you're like, this is what it's going to be, right,

776
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 3: He's only going to see games in that situation unless

777
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones gets hurt.

778
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 2: Of course, I was a little surprised Jake than a

779
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 2: little what dad three minutes left, four minutes three and

780
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 2: a half when he took over. I was surprised we

781
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 2: didn't see one pass play. I agree with because those

782
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 2: are the times when you could use some development, right,

783
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 2: I would agree with that.

784
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 3: Still cautious optimism. I think a lot of people feel

785
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 3: that way in terms of.

786
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Speaker 11: You know.

787
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Speaker 3: Everybody. I think the Rams game is going to tell

788
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 3: us a lot. If they go into La and they

789
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 3: beat the Rams, then you know. But what they are doing,

790
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 3: like I said earlier, is very similar to Indiana. They

791
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 3: get leads in a game and then they just play

792
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 3: smart Boy.

793
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 2: It's not a time you want to face the Rams.

794
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,879
Speaker 2: You see what happened yesterday with him, Jake, Who did

795
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 2: they have yesterday? They had Philly, They were up I

796
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 2: think nineteen second half and you know they're going for

797
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 2: the game winning field goal gets blocked and we turned

798
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Speaker 2: for a touchdown by Jordan Davis.

799
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Speaker 3: There were three there were like three games yesterday that

800
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 3: came down to swings at the very end and a

801
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 3: change of possession and then a game winning field goal.

802
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 3: I was like, in like a ten minute span, you

803
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 3: had that one, and then San Francisco was one. You

804
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 3: had the Jets blocking a Tampa bayfield goal. They take

805
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 3: it to the house, right, that's try to take the

806
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 3: lead in the Cleveland and Green Bay. How about that? Yeah,

807
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 3: that was the first one. A quickly exceeded expectation. That

808
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 3: from Jeff New Defensive schemes from Bill correct lou Anrumo

809
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 3: continues to push the right buttons defensively. This is a

810
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 3: good line Jonathan freaking Taylor. He was on the morning

811
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Speaker 3: show this morning. By the way, they will replay that

812
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Speaker 3: seven o'clock hour tomorrow morning. If you did not hear

813
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 3: what Jonathan Taylor had to say.

814
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Speaker 2: Now was the tweet freaking Jake or did you substitute

815
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Speaker 2: to make it?

816
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Speaker 3: And they did make it expost twitter friendly. Here's a

817
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Speaker 3: good one from Indiana Jones. Go figure in terms of

818
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Speaker 3: the name on the account, apologies accepted here. That's that's

819
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 3: definitely true because we all owe the colts and apology.

820
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 3: We all do us really yes, why to all of us,

821
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Speaker 3: because you, like everybody else, did not think they would

822
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Speaker 3: be three and zero. I didn't think there'd be three. No,

823
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Speaker 3: Daniel jos was named the starter. It was like, here

824
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Speaker 3: we go purgatory seven and ten and draft twentieth. I

825
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 3: said ten and seven the beginning of the year. Mike Chapel,

826
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Speaker 3: by the way, joins us next Mike Chapel, CBS four

827
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Speaker 3: wxin Fox fifty nine in just about twenty seconds. But

828
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Speaker 3: before that, Eddie health updates from the National Football League

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Speaker 3: as it relates to local players.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so last night, if you were watching Sunday Night Football,

831
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Speaker 2: you saw if you're in the fantasy football league at

832
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Speaker 2: Queering Company one, you'll notice Tyrone's lifting buddy in high

833
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 2: school yours truly right here if you forgot about that.

834
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Speaker 2: He exited the game last night with a shoulder injury.

835
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Speaker 2: It was a Tracy right, Yes, Tyrone Tracy Junior exited

836
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Speaker 2: the game last night with a shoulder injury. It was

837
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Speaker 2: announced date it's a dislocated shoulder. He'll miss sometime. It's

838
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 2: uncertain on how long it'll be. And then Ben Davis

839
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Speaker 2: High School graduate Dwand Jones of the Cleveland Browns is

840
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 2: out for the rest of the season with a knee injury.

841
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Speaker 2: So not a good day for two former Indian high

842
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Speaker 2: school athletes.

843
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Speaker 3: Now, I was well aware of that situation with Tyrone

844
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Speaker 3: Tracy because in my fantasy team is terrible because justin

845
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 3: Jefferson and T Higgins in particular, I have nobody thrown

846
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Speaker 3: them in the football. But I was going up against

847
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Speaker 3: I think it was Derek's team, No, brandy Wine's Banchees,

848
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Speaker 3: which is Brian's team, and he has Camp's Kataboo, and

849
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Speaker 3: he needed a certain number of points last night, and

850
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Speaker 3: I thought, well, it looked like I was going to

851
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Speaker 3: get my first win. And then Tracy went out and

852
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 3: he could play man, he could play, and that was

853
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 3: the heck of a fine for the Giants and for

854
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Speaker 3: Brian for that matter. Joining us now on the show

855
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Speaker 3: a guy that cares nothing about our fantasy football teams,

856
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Speaker 3: nor should he. Mike Chappell of CBS four and WXI

857
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Speaker 3: N chap I will begin with this, and that is

858
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 3: a question that I asked a couple of people last week.

859
00:46:56,280 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 3: But I want your thought on this is Daniel Jones

860
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 3: playing at a level that is allowing Shane stikeen to

861
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 3: get creative with this play calling, or is Shane Steiken

862
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 3: calling plays right now to best benefit and play with

863
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 3: them the ceiling of Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 12: Probably yes, and yes. I've always thought the last couple

865
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Speaker 12: of years as much as and I hope we don't

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Speaker 12: get on a I mean we in general get on

867
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 12: a pile on Anthony Richardson. Deal, that's not what this is.

868
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 12: But he and Jones are diametrically opposed as quarterbacks, and

869
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 12: I thought the fact what they could do with Anthony

870
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 12: Richardson and the lack of a tight end. Let's keep

871
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 12: in mind, they've lacked key, a key offensive player that

872
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 12: Shane Stiken always makes use of. So this is so

873
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,399
Speaker 12: I think it's three weeks and I'm one of those

874
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 12: I kind of keep waiting for the other shoot to

875
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 12: drop because because it normally does. But boy, after three games,

876
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 12: it's just been the purpose marriage offensively, still some pickups

877
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 12: on defense, but offensively, gosh, what would you complain about.

878
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 12: They're being creative, they're spreading the ball around, They're getting

879
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,280
Speaker 12: I've said for the last couple of years that Jonathan

880
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 12: Taylor is the most underappreciated great player nationally. He just

881
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 12: is how you see all these these offseason I think

882
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 12: it was a d tot com or somebody had the

883
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 12: top hundred players. I don't believe he or Quinton Nelson

884
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 12: Moro on it, and I'm thinking they're just, you know,

885
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 12: invalidated the entire survey. So I think it's a perfect marriage,

886
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 12: and I maybe I'm wrong, but what I keep coming

887
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 12: back to with this offense with one hundred and three points,

888
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:51,760
Speaker 12: the most sense one hundred since thineteen sixty seven, second

889
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 12: most enfranchised history to open a season, I just don't

890
00:48:55,600 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 12: see anything spectacular, and that's a compliment. They're just executing.

891
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 12: They're making plays. Now, a couple of Jonathan Taylor runs

892
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 12: are spectacular. They are, but that's what great backs do.

893
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 12: But Michael Pittman's playing well, Tyler Warren giving them what

894
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 12: they haven't had since I'll go back to Dallas Clark

895
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 12: and I don't mean that as a knock on Jack Doyle,

896
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 12: but it's a perfect marriage. And I think they're just

897
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 12: asking Jones to make plays and avoid some sacks. He's

898
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 12: probably avoided I don't know, four or five sacks by

899
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 12: the one yesterday, the seventeen yard run, or he was

900
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,879
Speaker 12: engulfed in the pocket and got out on a third

901
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 12: and whatever it was when the game was still you know,

902
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 12: a game. It's just worked. And I'm watching last night

903
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 12: and the Giants are such a mess. And I know

904
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 12: Jones didn't there were times he didn't play well with

905
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 12: the Giants. Don't you put most most of what happened

906
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 12: in Jones's first five or six years on the Giants organization.

907
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 12: I mean, I think they just you know, the big

908
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 12: thing in Scataboy's a good story. But when your two

909
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 12: stories over the last couple of years are him and

910
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 12: de Vido, I mean, what do you got? What are

911
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 12: you doing? So I think this is a perfect marriage,

912
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 12: perfect storm to this point, and I again, what they're doing,

913
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 12: there's no reason to say, well, yeah, but this can't

914
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 12: continue what it can because there's four or five receivers,

915
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 12: including war. We really haven't seen Ady Mitchell get going

916
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 12: yet because there hasn't been reps. He may get reps

917
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:50,479
Speaker 12: if Alec pierces out a little bit. But they're they're

918
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 12: doing they're just playing the way you're supposed to play.

919
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 12: They're executing all that stuff. So I've seen no reason

920
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 12: that this offense can't keep this up, maybe not the

921
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 12: thirty four points a game level, but efficiency level, or

922
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 12: whether I'm putting up twenty seven points a game and

923
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 12: you scored twenty seven points. All you need is your

924
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 12: defense to play okay, and this defense is playing better

925
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 12: than okay.

926
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 3: You know the chap and not to always go back

927
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,879
Speaker 3: to this storyline, because there's a lot of really good

928
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 3: stuff to talk about here, right, But I was curious

929
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 3: of this as I was watching yesterday, and I want

930
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:29,399
Speaker 3: you to tell me if it makes sense. The real

931
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 3: benefit of Daniel Jones playing at the level that he

932
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 3: has been playing is the obvious They're winning games, and

933
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,919
Speaker 3: that's what ultimately you are designed to do. And if

934
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 3: this continues, and if he maintains and is able to

935
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 3: show to the rest of the league that, yes, in fact,

936
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 3: it was as much a New York thing as a

937
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones thing in the first go round, if that's

938
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 3: the case, and I've seen you know, you saw Matt

939
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 3: Ryan talking about how what he's doing is, you know,

940
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 3: playing at a whole new level, and you know, everybody

941
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 3: seems to be noticing, Gosh, this guy can play, and

942
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 3: he's making good decisions in all of those things. Does

943
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 3: that increase or or rather even does it give some

944
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 3: value to Anthony Richardson on the trademark. I know the

945
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 3: Colts have said they're not going to trade Anthony Richardson,

946
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 3: but if Daniel Jones indeed proves to be the long

947
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 3: term guy, doesn't it increase the trade value of Richardson,

948
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 3: because then teams would say, gosh, now I see why Richard.

949
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 3: It's not that it's not an indictment on Richardson that

950
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 3: he didn't win the job over this guy. Does that

951
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 3: make sense what I'm saying, Well.

952
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 12: It depends on whether you're talking trading now or trading

953
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 12: at the end of the season.

954
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, let's say or whatever. And I always

955
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 3: forget when the trade deadline would be, but yes, even

956
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 3: at the end of the season. Okay, so yeah, you

957
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:45,320
Speaker 3: probably need more time for people to believe.

958
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 12: But let's say you're seven and two, seven and three whatever,

959
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 12: and somebody offers you a four for Richardson, which you

960
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 12: don't know that he would get that. Then what you're doing.

961
00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 12: You're a playoff caliber team that might win the division

962
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 12: and your backup quarterback is right a Leonard who has

963
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:08,879
Speaker 12: done his job well, but he the rookie and he's

964
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 12: not ready. So then if Jones gets hurt and then

965
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 12: you need three games in November December and you with

966
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 12: Friday Leonard, then you're screwed. So I think the longer

967
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 12: this goes well, the less likelihood of Richardson being traded

968
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:30,919
Speaker 12: this season now next season. You know, let's say again,

969
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 12: let's We've talked in the pressure a lot about this,

970
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 12: and I've always thought I considered it the worst case scenario.

971
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:43,399
Speaker 12: If Jones wins it, won the job, and then they

972
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:47,800
Speaker 12: go ten and seven, eleven and six and make the playoffs,

973
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 12: win the division, then what do you do?

974
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 11: Right?

975
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,320
Speaker 12: Then You've got You've got Daniel Jones who's a free agent,

976
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 12: and you can always franchise him for a year if

977
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 12: you wanted, which is costly, but it's just one year.

978
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 12: So that would be such a great, great problem to

979
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 12: have issue to have, not a problem issue to have.

980
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 12: But boy, and what I consider trading Richardson in the offseason? Yes,

981
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 12: I would, because I think it would be hard to

982
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:20,439
Speaker 12: bring him back again, because if things work out well,

983
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 12: you're going to find some way to bring Jones back

984
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 12: and do this again.

985
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,800
Speaker 3: Here's to me, Chap, what is impressive about Daniel Jones

986
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 3: and what's encouraging about Daniel Jones. And I mean this,

987
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 3: I mean this isolated to Daniel Jones. This is not

988
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 3: meant in comparison to any other player. I don't mean

989
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 3: it that way at all. But the thing about Jones

990
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 3: to me that's been impressive is he seems to have

991
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 3: a very clear understanding as to the ceiling of Daniel

992
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 3: Jones from one play to the next, and if something's

993
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 3: not working, he doesn't step outside of what it is

994
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 3: that he needs or can do in order to make

995
00:54:56,320 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 3: it work. And for that reason, I think you can

996
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 3: grow with him. I think you can build around him

997
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 3: because of the fact that he does not put himself

998
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 3: or his team in a bad situation if a bad

999
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 3: situation is out there to be had. Does that make sense?

1000
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,439
Speaker 12: Oh yeah. And that's why I say I can see

1001
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 12: this continuing because he's not doing anything like always smokes.

1002
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 12: I've not seen him throw the ball like that or whatever.

1003
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 12: Make it play like it. No, he's staying within within

1004
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:29,439
Speaker 12: the framework. It's and it comes off wrong, but he's

1005
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 12: managing the offense. But he's not a game manager. And

1006
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 12: I think there's a difference a game manager is a

1007
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,800
Speaker 12: guy who just who really can't do it. Maybe Minshew

1008
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 12: is a game manager, I don't know, but that's not

1009
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 12: what he is. He's but he's managing the offense. And

1010
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 12: that's why I say it's the one thing that Shane

1011
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:54,359
Speaker 12: Styken emphasize was he wanted to consistently reliability and that's

1012
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 12: one of the reasons that he went with Jones. And

1013
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 12: because everything and sometimes we're wrong to do this, but

1014
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 12: everything that Stychan has said about Daniel Jones is sort

1015
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 12: of what you don't but you haven't got with Richardson.

1016
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 12: You know, you got the great plays and all that,

1017
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 12: but again, Jones was for Richardson's fifty percent completion percentage.

1018
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 12: You can't play offense in the NFL with that, you can't.

1019
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 12: Jones is at like seventy one percent, and probably the

1020
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 12: most incredible stat he's like nine point three in attempt

1021
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 12: So while he's making the underneath throws to Warren and

1022
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 12: Pittman and all this, he's getting shot. Stani Ozelia a

1023
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 12: nice one to Josh Stowns. I thought the one Pierce

1024
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 12: got hurt on. I thought he caught it. I did,

1025
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 12: though I tellt he could control of it.

1026
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 3: I would agree with that, and I think the replay

1027
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 3: showed that right, I thought so.

1028
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 12: I mean, it was it was like the second bounce

1029
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 12: that the ball came loose, and.

1030
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:57,479
Speaker 3: I thought so in consequential. But when when Pierce didn't

1031
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 3: get up from that play, we now know he's in concussion,

1032
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,359
Speaker 3: wrote a call. I assumed he got because a lot

1033
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 3: of times you see guys get the win knocked out

1034
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 3: him if you land on the football and it hits

1035
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 3: your abdomen. That's what I kind of thought happened there.

1036
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 3: But you know, we have to see in terms of

1037
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 3: Pierce what the health status is beyond.

1038
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 12: It's it's his third concussion and he's missed one game

1039
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 12: after each of the first two. So you know, I

1040
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 12: was talking with somebody last night about it and he said,

1041
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 12: he said, he's okay, Yeah, well players do that. Of

1042
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 12: course players do that. So so we'll see. And teams

1043
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 12: are extremely, extremely cautious with concussions because you have to

1044
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 12: be so. But but again, if he's out, then that's

1045
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 12: going to give Mitchell a chance to step up and

1046
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,919
Speaker 12: be that guy. But but again he'll be the third guy.

1047
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 12: Pick at fourth guy when you consider it. Tyler Warren

1048
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 12: with Pittman and Josh. Now I'm still waiting for Josh

1049
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 12: Downs to go off, which he hasn't done yet. So

1050
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 12: uh but as long as guys, as long as you're

1051
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 12: getting Jonathan Taylor getting a hunting in some yards. Again,

1052
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 12: people either either don't recognize or forget that among active

1053
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 12: running backs active running backs, he leads all of them

1054
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 12: in rushing yards per game. It's like ninety yards a

1055
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 12: game or whatever. He's had one hundred yards in six

1056
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 12: of the last seven. And I had to double check this,

1057
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 12: and I do trust the Colts PR, but I still

1058
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 12: had to check it out. Or what is it? At

1059
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 12: three hundred and thirty eight yards, I think it is

1060
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 12: in three games the most yards by a cult running

1061
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 12: back since at least nineteen seventy really in the first

1062
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 12: three games, and I thought, hey, no way, Edrin had

1063
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 12: to have more than that, and he didn't. So you know,

1064
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 12: Taylor's off to this great start. Knock on wood. You hope,

1065
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 12: you hope he maintains his health. But remember ran he

1066
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 12: ran for fourteen hundreds last year and he was three games.

1067
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 12: So again, I just think that he I wrote this

1068
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 12: last week and I truly believe it. When Jones had

1069
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 12: his season in twenty twenty two or they like nine

1070
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 12: seven and they made the playoffs and and one and one

1071
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 12: a first round game he had Saint Kwon Berkley, and

1072
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 12: when you give a quarterback that type of a running game.

1073
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 12: And then again, this is the best supporting cast, best

1074
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 12: offensive line, best set of receivers, best tight end that

1075
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 12: Jones has had, and as long as these stays within himself,

1076
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 12: which I I whatever I know of Daniel Jones, I

1077
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 12: just don't get the impression he's gonna go out there

1078
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 12: one day he says, you know, I'm going for four

1079
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 12: hundred to day because I want to That's not him.

1080
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 12: Uh So that's why I say this is the kind

1081
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 12: of offense that that you can't take away Michael Pittman,

1082
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 12: and then somebody else jumps up and take away Tyler Warren,

1083
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 12: and then somebody else jumps up. So so far, so good,

1084
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 12: And I like to add structure because it's it's the

1085
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 12: kind of thing that should that can and should continue.

1086
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 3: By the way, chap if in no particular order, if

1087
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 3: Marshall Falk, Eric Dickerson, Edge, Joseph and Dye, and Jonathan

1088
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 3: Taylor are the top five backs in Indianapolis cult history.

1089
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 3: Who's sixth.

1090
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 12: Dominic Croudes.

1091
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 3: That's pretty good.

1092
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 12: Yeah, maybe yeah should have been, but they didn't want

1093
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 12: him in Disney World. Uh but but yeah, I had

1094
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 12: someone tell me against someone inside the teams and yeah,

1095
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 12: you know, top running backs, and he had they had

1096
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 12: like like JT like fourth and I had no. Yeah,

1097
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 12: i'll give you edge and probably Dickerson. But when he

1098
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 12: was here, not fault. He took off. Fault took off

1099
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 12: when when he went to the Rams. So that's why

1100
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 12: I say, it's just crazy how Taylor for whatever reason,

1101
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 12: I don't know what it is. And it's just not

1102
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 12: that stupid fumble whatever in Denver. It's just that there's

1103
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 12: something about him that people don't nationally don't appreciate. I

1104
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 12: don't get it.

1105
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 3: I think part of it's the devalue of the running

1106
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 3: back for a time. I think it's starting to come

1107
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 3: back in vogue.

1108
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 12: But yeah, that's cyclical and it's coming back.

1109
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 3: That's what I mean. So the other thing is he,

1110
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 3: you know, Taylor for the running back position, Chap seemingly

1111
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 3: you've either got to be a Barry Sanders juke move

1112
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 3: guy and Eric Dickerson beautiful stride guy or an earl

1113
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 3: Campbell barrow you over guy, and Taylor is a little

1114
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 3: bit of like two of the three of those. But

1115
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 3: I but I don't know necessarily that either one he

1116
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 3: jumps out at you as being a staple of one

1117
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 3: of those, and that's probably.

1118
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 12: He's just acceleration. The other one probably don't have.

1119
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 3: And he's got the thing about Taylor that is so fascinating,

1120
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 3: not just does he had the acceleration, but the deceleration

1121
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 3: in other words, you know what I mean. He can

1122
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 3: go from second gear to six back to second and

1123
01:01:57,000 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 3: then back to sixth again, which is impressive. Not many

1124
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 3: guy can do that.

1125
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 12: Edgrin had that. He had that jump step and as

1126
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 12: soon as he put his foot in the ground after

1127
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 12: the cut, he was gone. People did I really don't

1128
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 12: think people appreciated James Yeah for his greatness.

1129
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 3: By the way, Rose Potts might be up there. Potts

1130
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 3: and Albert Bentley both might be up there.

1131
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 12: Albert Bentley could have he could have been something they

1132
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 12: hadn't treated for Dickerson. I mean, we can go back

1133
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 12: to the Dickerson thing that it didn't it didn't work,

1134
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 12: but it was the right thing to do at the time.

1135
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 12: But you were never gonna win. You were never going

1136
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 12: to go through bad times with Derrick Tickers. And that's

1137
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 12: not who he was. Uh, Rosie Potts was one of

1138
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 12: my favorite players. And he just remember that, whether he

1139
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 12: led the team or was second in rushing one year

1140
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 12: and then the next year they drafted Marshall and Rosie

1141
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 12: came in and he was a fullback and he came in,

1142
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 12: he cut like twenty or thirty pounds and he thought

1143
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 12: he was gonna challenge Fault for the lead running around that. Yeah,

1144
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:04,919
Speaker 12: that's not gonna happen. But Rose is a great guy.

1145
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 12: But he and he he he didn't really understand his role.

1146
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 12: But what a great guy. And he went through some

1147
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 12: tough times. But this, whenever Taylor does things, you know,

1148
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 12: the most enfranchised is this franchise has got some great,

1149
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 12: great running back, right and whenever he does something, it's folks, this,

1150
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 12: this is not normal. And again people, I said, well,

1151
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 12: he he broke the single season rushing record in a

1152
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 12: seventeen game season. Yeah, he did. He did it in

1153
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 12: game sixteen, So he's special. I I hope he stays

1154
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 12: as healthy as a running back can in a season.

1155
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 12: I want to see what he can do with this offense,

1156
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 12: because he's gonna he's gonna get eighty yards just because

1157
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 12: and when he breaks one of those plays like he's

1158
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 12: always gonna, like he normally does, it's something special. So

1159
01:03:59,880 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 12: I really want to see what he can do and

1160
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 12: have Jones sort of coattail off of that because it's

1161
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 12: such a great combination that works.

1162
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 3: Mike Chapels our guest CBS four WX an Fox fifty

1163
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 3: nine as well. Chap Obviously in week two xaving Howard

1164
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 3: really struggled, and that defensive backfield has been depleted by

1165
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 3: injury a little bit. Now we know Kenny Moore has

1166
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 3: the cap injury, he may miss some time Howard yesterday.

1167
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 3: Did he rebound or was it just the fact that

1168
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 3: you're going against cam Ward who is learning the position

1169
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 3: and a Titans group that is not overly stout.

1170
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 12: Probably that he did have an angleholding penalty, which I

1171
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 12: don't get on. DB's too much for that, although three

1172
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 12: and five plays that he had two weeks ago was

1173
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 12: a bit much. But yeah, this is they're really testing

1174
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 12: the depth of the secondary. And I'm not defending anybody

1175
01:04:58,000 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 12: with the team, but I don't want to hear where

1176
01:04:59,880 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 12: they should have done more to reinforce that position. No,

1177
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 12: you can't have like ten deep for crying out loud.

1178
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 12: I think it's gonna be. It's gonna be really important

1179
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 12: with with your various Ward Mooney Ward to be well

1180
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 12: this week, which I think he just had cramps yesterday.

1181
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 12: I think, but you're gonna have uh the coup this week.

1182
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 12: And he's the real deal. Remember the game they played

1183
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:27,439
Speaker 12: here with him as a rookie ye overtime and and

1184
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 12: they forgot that he was out there and he cut

1185
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 12: the touchdown and overtime. So the Rams, the Rams are

1186
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 12: the real deal. I don't know how they lost that

1187
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 12: game yesterday. I guess Black Peel wills to do that

1188
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 12: to you. But this will be. This is I not

1189
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 12: to beat my home, but I thought six and two was.

1190
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 12: It was a very realistic start for these guys winning

1191
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 12: the first three, losing to the Rams, and then your

1192
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 12: home the next two.

1193
01:05:53,840 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 3: Right, Raiders and Cardinals at home. I mean, you got right, and.

1194
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 12: Then you go to Pittsburgh and then they can get

1195
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 12: Tennessee home.

1196
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 3: Well they go, here's what they got because I'm looking

1197
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 3: at it right here. They got Rams right, and then

1198
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 3: you go back to back home games with the Raiders

1199
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 3: and Cardinals, followed by back to La to take on

1200
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 3: the Chargers.

1201
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:16,919
Speaker 12: Those are the two I thought they would lose.

1202
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 3: And then you've got Tennessee at home, so you get

1203
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 3: right again. And then that's when Pittsburgh. Then you got

1204
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 3: to go to in Pittsburgh.

1205
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 12: I don't know what they are. You know they needed

1206
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 12: five turnovers to beat New England, right or take it takeaways?

1207
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 11: I mean.

1208
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 12: And then you go to to Berlin against Atlanta who

1209
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 12: just got rolled, and then you get to buy a

1210
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:39,560
Speaker 12: week and then it gets tougher. Although you know we

1211
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 12: love to look ahead Kansas. Any there's something wrong with

1212
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 12: the Chiefs.

1213
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, they can't run the ball. They don't. The Chiefs

1214
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 3: don't have just a pound you in between the tackles

1215
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 3: level back to salt clock. If they get a lead,

1216
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 3: that's their problem, right.

1217
01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 12: They need they need to center Grove kid again. Well,

1218
01:06:55,400 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 12: you're right, his name Escapes. I did a story on

1219
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 12: Anybody's here for the pro Day, So yeah, so again

1220
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 12: you never know how it's gonna go. That's why stealing

1221
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 12: one against Denver, which they absolutely stole one against dinverd

1222
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 12: they did. Uh, But but that that's how the NFL works,

1223
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:17,680
Speaker 12: and you just you just stack them. And I think

1224
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 12: so far Steichen has done a great job of keeping

1225
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 12: these guys locked in the seven day because if there

1226
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 12: if there was a trap game, it was Sunday it was.

1227
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 12: And then cam Hord mails you a seven to nothing lead,

1228
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 12: which is what an awful throw. But uh, I like

1229
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 12: what this team is doing. Again. I think what's important

1230
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 12: to me is they're not doing anything extraordinary. The boy

1231
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 12: they're playing at a high level. Special teams still bothered

1232
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 12: me with some of the returns. Uh coverage, but uh,

1233
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 12: every team's got issues. Uh, this team has fewer than most.

1234
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 3: It's uh so far, so far, so good. And they

1235
01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 3: look they didn't credit the Chris Ballard. They do look

1236
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 3: like they've got depth. An area is that they wanted

1237
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 3: to have depth. Mike Chapel, CBS four, WXA and Fox

1238
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 3: with Denign chap appreciate it as always. To talk to

1239
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 3: you next week.

1240
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 12: All right, look forward to it, you guys, be well, all.

1241
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:11,959
Speaker 3: Right, my Chapel joining us on the program. We come back.

1242
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 3: Two things that jumped out at me. Number one being

1243
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:20,720
Speaker 3: there was something in college football that I'm like, what

1244
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 3: in the world. And there's another thing that everybody else

1245
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 3: seems to be what in the world about with the

1246
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:30,719
Speaker 3: Colts that I'm not. I'll tell you about both next. Okay,

1247
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:35,640
Speaker 3: So something taking place right now in the game of

1248
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:43,560
Speaker 3: football that maybe I'm late to this party, but now

1249
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:46,439
Speaker 3: I see evidence of it where I'm like, yeah, I

1250
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:52,520
Speaker 3: kind of get it. And that is the complaint about

1251
01:08:53,280 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 3: rankings in general. For example, Indiana ranked nineteenth playing at

1252
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:11,760
Speaker 3: home any other at home, okay, sure against number nine Illinois,

1253
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 3: and they absolutely I mean when you say they blew

1254
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:18,439
Speaker 3: them out, that's not even. That didn't even That's not

1255
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 3: even half of it.

1256
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 4: That game.

1257
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 3: Wasn't even close. Like, we went to the Indianapolis version,

1258
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:37,600
Speaker 3: not Bloomington, and we were invited to go down to

1259
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 3: the game, which I would have loved to have done,

1260
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 3: and thank you for the invite. Shannon has family in town,

1261
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 3: so we did not do that, but we did go

1262
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:50,760
Speaker 3: for dinner and then went to for the beginning of

1263
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 3: the game to the broad up a location of Kilroys

1264
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 3: because it's you know, in Indianapolis or an Indiana place

1265
01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:59,439
Speaker 3: whatever you ever had the kill Roys Bret sticks Eddie

1266
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 3: oh hu, yes, Okay, the Kilroy spreadsticks are like the

1267
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 3: Indiana game, like fire fantastic, but at the same time,

1268
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 3: like when you open them up, it's just layer after

1269
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:17,080
Speaker 3: layer and they're just there's just more and more in

1270
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:20,759
Speaker 3: terms of the interior of them. They're basically like almost

1271
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 3: like donuts. And that game was like that. Just every

1272
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:27,679
Speaker 3: time you thought Indiana, okay, they got a block punt

1273
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:29,800
Speaker 3: and they score that way, and then a breakaway run

1274
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 3: and then a big deep pass, and I mean just

1275
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:33,639
Speaker 3: every time you looked up there was just there were

1276
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 3: more layers coming against Illinois. So I thought to myself,

1277
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 3: they absolutely just eviscerated Illinois, the most points ever scored

1278
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 3: against a top ten team in Big Ten history, and

1279
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:51,720
Speaker 3: they moved up eight spots to number eleven. And when

1280
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:54,559
Speaker 3: you look at the rankings, it does make sense. I mean,

1281
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:56,880
Speaker 3: you run out of room after a while, like, okay,

1282
01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 3: who would you put them in front of? For example.

1283
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 3: But whenever you hear people talk about like preseason, what's

1284
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:07,919
Speaker 3: with preseason rankings? How do we know with preseason rankings?

1285
01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 3: And there's truth to that because I look at it

1286
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 3: and say, okay, so let's take Texas. Texas is ranked

1287
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 3: ahead of Indiana Okay, so you think to yourself, then

1288
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:28,760
Speaker 3: Texas must have. Clearly, Texas, their resume has got to

1289
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:33,720
Speaker 3: be really good or better than Indiana's. Texas open up

1290
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 3: the year at Ohio State. They lost fourteen to seven,

1291
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:38,880
Speaker 3: but in reality, they were never in that game. Did

1292
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 3: you feel when you watch that game at any point

1293
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 3: like Texas had any chance in that game?

1294
01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 2: At the very end when Arch Breening got the ball

1295
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 2: down seven, he had a chance to go down and

1296
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:47,599
Speaker 2: tie the game.

1297
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:55,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like nothing right, they just they You felt

1298
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:57,519
Speaker 3: that whole time like Ohio State was in control of

1299
01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 3: that game, at least I did. Now after that, Texas's resume,

1300
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 3: so they have a loss to open up and again

1301
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 3: losing out Ohio State, not over the egregious, I get it.

1302
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:13,559
Speaker 3: Since then they've beaten San Jose State, UTEP and sam

1303
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 3: Houston State. Okay, how does that if it weren't for

1304
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 3: the preseason ranking of where they were ranked to begin

1305
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 3: the year before a game had been played, what part

1306
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 3: of that is better than And yes, I realized that

1307
01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 3: Indiana's first three games were against lackluster opponents, but then

1308
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:42,760
Speaker 3: they play a team in Illinois and absolutely, I mean

1309
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:44,639
Speaker 3: eviscerated them, Like I said, now.

1310
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 2: Hey, old Dominion helped boost that a non conference schedule, Jake,

1311
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 2: But that went over Virginia Tech.

1312
01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:51,760
Speaker 3: Now come on, see that's the other thing. Is the

1313
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 3: other where I to be consistent. The problem with my

1314
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 3: argument is this, If I want to stand there and

1315
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:06,479
Speaker 3: say Indiana should be given credit because of the fact

1316
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 3: that they had that win over a top ten team,

1317
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:12,640
Speaker 3: then what has Illinois done to be ranked in the

1318
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:17,200
Speaker 3: top ten other than simply preseason rankings? They beat Western

1319
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:22,599
Speaker 3: Illinois Western Illinois, just so you know, last the last

1320
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 3: time Western Illinois won a game, President Lyndon Johnson was

1321
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 3: there in attendance. They beat Duke Okay, that was a

1322
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 3: road game, right correct. Yeah, And they beat Western Michigan, Okay,

1323
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:40,599
Speaker 3: and then Illinois or Indiana blows them out of the building.

1324
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 3: But the rankings in general, that has become a very

1325
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 3: cachet thing to discredit rankings until like say week four

1326
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 3: or week five of the season.

1327
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 2: I like looking at the coaches pull more than the

1328
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 2: eight people because you figured they would know, right, And

1329
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:57,639
Speaker 2: they've got Ius Slott in twelfth.

1330
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:00,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, they got them behind Ole Miss Oklahoma.

1331
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:02,920
Speaker 2: Oklahoma might be the most complete team in college football

1332
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 2: that is incredibly underrated.

1333
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 3: Oklahoma's good, and Oklahoma has impressive wins. Oklahoma's got two

1334
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 3: impressive wins so far. Most teams that are ranked ahead

1335
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 3: of Indiana, like Indiana has at least one win. Where

1336
01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 3: you go, oh, Okay, Texas is the one that I

1337
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 3: would have major issue with. Now Old miss on the

1338
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:22,559
Speaker 3: other hand, so Old missus four to oh, they've got

1339
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 3: Georgia State. They beat Kentucky that's probably not a terrible way.

1340
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 3: And they beat Arkansas. Is Arkansas good by the way,

1341
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:29,360
Speaker 3: because Notre Dame has Arkansas?

1342
01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:29,639
Speaker 12: Right?

1343
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 2: Arkansas? They probably would be ranked if they could just

1344
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 2: finish a game like did you see how they ended

1345
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:37,679
Speaker 2: the game the other day on Saturday?

1346
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 3: No, Oh, my gosh.

1347
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:42,639
Speaker 2: So they're driving, then they throw a pick, they get

1348
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:44,479
Speaker 2: the ball back, and this is underneath two minutes. Now

1349
01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:47,040
Speaker 2: they just need a field goal to win. They've got

1350
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:49,479
Speaker 2: to underneath a two minute timeout. There's like a little

1351
01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 2: over a minute ago. They're inside the fifteen. They were

1352
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:54,799
Speaker 2: playing who they were on the road. I can't remember

1353
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:58,599
Speaker 2: of Memphis, that's right, And they're running back fumbles at

1354
01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:01,840
Speaker 2: the goal line and so then Memphis gets the ball.

1355
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 2: It's like thirty eight. The starting quarterback has to exit

1356
01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 2: on third down for the third down play because it's

1357
01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:09,439
Speaker 2: helmet came off on second down, and their defensive lineman

1358
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 2: can't tackle the backup quarterback and he's just getting drugged

1359
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 2: by the backup quarterback for eight yards first down.

1360
01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 3: Arkansas loses. That's a rough way to lose. Oh yeah,

1361
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:18,559
Speaker 3: I think I told you. I've been to a game

1362
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 3: at Arkansas. Okay, nineteen ninety one, when I was in college,

1363
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 3: I went to a game Arkansas and Baylor in Arkansas. Now,

1364
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 3: I'm not saying this is the case. Now, that was

1365
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 3: a long time ago. But first off, the Arkansas fans

1366
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 3: yelled at wu pig suey, pig suey, woo pig suey

1367
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 3: all the time. But also, and I don't mean the stereotype.

1368
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:45,519
Speaker 3: And if you're a native of Arkansas, then I'm not

1369
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 3: saying this is applicable to you. This was the case

1370
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:54,120
Speaker 3: thirty five years ago. Every single guy at the University

1371
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 3: of Arkansas when I was there, every single one of

1372
01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 3: them five foot ten, two hundred and twenty five pounds

1373
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 3: in drunk, every one of them.

1374
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:03,519
Speaker 2: Well, no offense, What else is there to do in

1375
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:09,800
Speaker 2: Arkansas's goos me. Arkansas is beautiful though it is. I've

1376
01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:11,880
Speaker 2: been to all fifty states. I'm gonna rank them someday.

1377
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do a blog and I'm gonna rank them

1378
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:18,400
Speaker 2: fifty to one, and Arkansas is one of my states

1379
01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 2: that will rank way higher than people would expect. I've

1380
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:26,920
Speaker 2: been there once where Washingtah, excuse me, Washingtah.

1381
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:28,120
Speaker 3: That's what you did again there? Right?

1382
01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you Indy?

1383
01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:30,639
Speaker 3: Who did they play?

1384
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 2: Washington Baptist.

1385
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:37,639
Speaker 3: The name of the school is Washington Baptist. Yeah, okay,

1386
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:42,960
Speaker 3: does that mean like like Bill Hudne was Presbyterian, I think,

1387
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 3: but he was a tall guy, so Washington Baptist. To me,

1388
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 3: what that sounds like is like a six six religious

1389
01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:53,840
Speaker 3: guide that somebody then comes in and gives them a

1390
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:56,960
Speaker 3: shower and they're gonna go wash a tap Baptist. Okay,

1391
01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 3: I mean that's just where you know. That's what it's

1392
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:05,320
Speaker 3: was like to me. But nonetheless, so Indiana up to eleven,

1393
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 3: I did think with that emphatic of a win that

1394
01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 3: they would be higher than that. And yes, just for example,

1395
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:15,320
Speaker 3: if you go I was on a college football website

1396
01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:20,760
Speaker 3: yesterday and it says Indiana's surprise, Clemson's face plant, and

1397
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:24,000
Speaker 3: other shocking stories. I don't think either of those are

1398
01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 3: shocking stories though, right.

1399
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:26,800
Speaker 2: How you feeling about Daboshweeney?

1400
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:31,559
Speaker 3: I like Dabosweeney And it's funny to me people that

1401
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:34,400
Speaker 3: are like, Dabo's seat's got to be hot, right, And.

1402
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, Dabo is Clemson.

1403
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:40,240
Speaker 3: So well, here's the thing, and I realized in Indianapolis,

1404
01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:44,720
Speaker 3: who cares about Clemson football? The point is this, how

1405
01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:48,200
Speaker 3: many college how many marquee college football programs are there?

1406
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 3: Thirty thirty five?

1407
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 12: Yeah?

1408
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:50,479
Speaker 2: Sure?

1409
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:53,920
Speaker 3: How many marquee coaches are there? Five?

1410
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 5: Ten?

1411
01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 3: Yeah? In other words, yes, you can make the knee

1412
01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:01,679
Speaker 3: jerk reaction of Obama needs to make a coaching change

1413
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:05,479
Speaker 3: or Clemson needs to make a coaching change, But then

1414
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:07,360
Speaker 3: you look at it and you say, in favor of

1415
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:14,759
Speaker 3: who who's out there? Tom Allen's out there. Tom Allen,

1416
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:17,680
Speaker 3: by the way, is the defensive coordinator for Clemson. And

1417
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 3: as a Clemson fan, I can tell you, do you

1418
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 3: know what to do? There are plenty of Clemson fans

1419
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:29,439
Speaker 3: that are shrugging the shoulders like many I you fans did.

1420
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:32,880
Speaker 3: Now there's another question about the Colts that's become a

1421
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:37,040
Speaker 3: popular narrative. And I've thought about this and I watched

1422
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:40,920
Speaker 3: more of it, and I think it's much to you

1423
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 3: about nothing, and I'll tell you what I'm talking about next.

1424
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:54,280
Speaker 3: So I held off and reserved judgment on this for

1425
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:58,919
Speaker 3: quite some time. I mentioned it a little bit in passing,

1426
01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:06,240
Speaker 3: maybe a week ago. But I believe this is we

1427
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 3: can put this story to bed, but I wanted to

1428
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:14,360
Speaker 3: opine on it before we do. So. I guess much

1429
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:19,960
Speaker 3: has been made about the owner of the Indianapolis Colts

1430
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:27,640
Speaker 3: standing on the sidelines wearing a headset, taking notes, and

1431
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 3: whether or not that would impact, influence, make nervous, be

1432
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:39,640
Speaker 3: unfair towards, et cetera. The coaching staff, Whether or not

1433
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 3: that impacts effects makes difference in terms of the any

1434
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:50,599
Speaker 3: player or executive or whatever, having somebody looking over their shoulder,

1435
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:54,200
Speaker 3: that's like following them around wearing a headset taking notes

1436
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:55,599
Speaker 3: on and on.

1437
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:58,240
Speaker 2: Would it be different if it's something she wasn't doing

1438
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:01,800
Speaker 2: already and she was already doing that last year, It's

1439
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:02,960
Speaker 2: not something that is different.

1440
01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:07,800
Speaker 3: It is different, And I'll tell you why, because she

1441
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:09,880
Speaker 3: is now the one that the buck stops with her.

1442
01:20:10,439 --> 01:20:13,320
Speaker 2: I understand. But if I'm give you what I'm saying.

1443
01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:15,360
Speaker 3: I do. But what I'm saying is like when people

1444
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:17,200
Speaker 3: are like, what's the difference from then to now, the

1445
01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 3: difference is then it seemingly was not impactful. And I

1446
01:20:21,320 --> 01:20:23,599
Speaker 3: don't mean that as a disrespect to her. I'm saying

1447
01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 3: in the past, if you were Shane Steichen in the past,

1448
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:30,400
Speaker 3: if you were lou An Arumo, if he had been

1449
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:32,719
Speaker 3: here I know he's in his first year in the past,

1450
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:38,840
Speaker 3: if you're Chris Ballard and Carl Ers Gordon raises a

1451
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:41,760
Speaker 3: question about something you did, or doesn't like something you did,

1452
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:44,559
Speaker 3: or you felt like she was analyzing you, you knew

1453
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:48,000
Speaker 3: that the final say was Jim mersays, and so long

1454
01:20:48,040 --> 01:20:50,120
Speaker 3: as you were cool with Jim Mersay, everything was good.

1455
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:54,800
Speaker 3: So that's where it's different. But the bigger difference to

1456
01:20:54,840 --> 01:21:01,360
Speaker 3: me is this, there is definitely something to be said

1457
01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:07,559
Speaker 3: about owner over involvement. Jerry Jones is the poster child

1458
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 3: of this. Jerry Jones is an owner that is making

1459
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:18,720
Speaker 3: personnel decisions, making trades, talking to the media anytime he

1460
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:22,200
Speaker 3: has opportunity. Driving around in this bus with the Cowboys

1461
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:26,200
Speaker 3: logo on it, he is Jerry Jones is ubiquitous with

1462
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:29,320
Speaker 3: the Dallas Cowboys. He is synonymous with the Dallas Cowboys.

1463
01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:31,760
Speaker 3: He is as he should be. He's the owner. I

1464
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:41,920
Speaker 3: get it. But Dallas, the Cowboys have their reputation and

1465
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:48,040
Speaker 3: their brand have carried them with this narrative of being

1466
01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:52,439
Speaker 3: relevant for twenty years. And if it weren't for the

1467
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:57,400
Speaker 3: brand and the logo and quite frankly, the eccentricities or

1468
01:21:57,479 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 3: the over involvement of their owner, they would have no

1469
01:21:59,880 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 3: relevance at all. They don't won a playoff game in decades, right,

1470
01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:08,160
Speaker 3: They've been to a conference championship I should say the

1471
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:09,599
Speaker 3: might have won a playoff game. They've been a conference

1472
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:13,280
Speaker 3: championship game in what twenty five years? Thirty years? I mean,

1473
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:19,600
Speaker 3: but Jerry Jones, when people talk about, you know, owners,

1474
01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:23,240
Speaker 3: there's an element of yeah, but I mean he's but

1475
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:25,720
Speaker 3: at least he's fun or he has the bus and

1476
01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:29,080
Speaker 3: you know, he's got the girls gone wild thing going

1477
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:32,679
Speaker 3: on and whatever else, you know, And to a great extent,

1478
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:38,800
Speaker 3: jimm Ersay Jim Mersay was rest his soul, a philanthropic,

1479
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:42,880
Speaker 3: kind hearted man, no question, and did fun things to

1480
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:46,160
Speaker 3: involve the fans, like doing the Willy Wonka ring giveaway

1481
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:48,000
Speaker 3: after they won the Super Bowl and things like that,

1482
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:51,679
Speaker 3: and the contests and the trivia contests and giving money

1483
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:53,920
Speaker 3: to animal shelters and the restaurant giveaways and all of

1484
01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:58,040
Speaker 3: those things. But also at the places that people didn't

1485
01:22:58,040 --> 01:23:00,880
Speaker 3: talk about because of all of that, there was definitely

1486
01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:06,080
Speaker 3: at times overstep involvement with Jim Mersey. Need I mention

1487
01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:10,479
Speaker 3: the suddenly out of nowhere, Sam Ellinger is your start

1488
01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:12,479
Speaker 3: of the rest of the year, or Jeff Saturday is

1489
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:14,040
Speaker 3: going to be the head coach, and those things that

1490
01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 3: happened in the middle of the year. There were impulsive

1491
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:20,840
Speaker 3: things that took place from ownership, and yet with that

1492
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:25,040
Speaker 3: it was hand off as like being okay because he

1493
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 3: was a football guy that'd been around football his whole

1494
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:33,719
Speaker 3: life and is a good person. It is I've seen

1495
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:35,920
Speaker 3: enough now and I've seen not that I've seen it

1496
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:40,880
Speaker 3: up close, but I've heard the discussion of it. I

1497
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:42,519
Speaker 3: saw it. By the way, Eddie, I'm looking down. Do

1498
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:44,519
Speaker 3: you have a toothbrush and toothpaste sitting next year?

1499
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:44,760
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1500
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 2: I went to go brush my tee during the last break. Yeah,

1501
01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:50,080
Speaker 2: I couldn't get the coffee sins out of my mouth.

1502
01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:54,400
Speaker 2: The coffee taste, So I brush my teeth.

1503
01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:56,920
Speaker 3: You know, I've got a whole thing of mints over

1504
01:23:56,960 --> 01:23:57,680
Speaker 3: here if you want them.

1505
01:23:57,800 --> 01:24:00,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I keep it stored it okay, at

1506
01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:01,000
Speaker 2: my desk.

1507
01:24:01,479 --> 01:24:09,240
Speaker 3: But either way, the video they show of Carli ors

1508
01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:14,080
Speaker 3: Gordon on the sidelines during the game, she's in the background,

1509
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:18,000
Speaker 3: and yes, is it unique that she's sitting there wearing

1510
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:22,920
Speaker 3: a headset and taking notes? I guess is it awkward

1511
01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 3: sometimes her facial expressions or her overall mannerisms. Sure, and

1512
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:35,760
Speaker 3: it's not unprecedented what I'm about to say. But I

1513
01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 3: don't think to be fair that any of it would

1514
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 3: be considered a big deal. I don't think to be

1515
01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:44,120
Speaker 3: fair that any of it would be mentioned on a broadcast.

1516
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:45,800
Speaker 3: I don't think to be fair that any of it

1517
01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:50,160
Speaker 3: would be brought up in question by a national standpoint

1518
01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:56,439
Speaker 3: if she a was over the age of fifty and

1519
01:24:56,560 --> 01:25:00,479
Speaker 3: be a male. I think it is the fact that

1520
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:06,040
Speaker 3: she is a younger female that people find intimidating and

1521
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:09,599
Speaker 3: people find unusual, and that people have an issue with that,

1522
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:14,000
Speaker 3: and they just naturally assume, because she is a female,

1523
01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:16,959
Speaker 3: that that means that she doesn't know the game of football.

1524
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:22,000
Speaker 3: And therefore there's a danger in her overstepping and taking

1525
01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:24,920
Speaker 3: notes in whatever else, and that like Shane Stikeen and

1526
01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:28,320
Speaker 3: Chris Ballard should feel uncomfortable that she's taking these notes

1527
01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:30,800
Speaker 3: because how could she know if what they're doing is

1528
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:34,840
Speaker 3: right or wrong or et cetera. And I don't think

1529
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:37,600
Speaker 3: any of that's true. I don't know whether she's a

1530
01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:41,080
Speaker 3: football savant, or whether she is a MENSA member, or

1531
01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:46,240
Speaker 3: whether she's somebody who I have no idea what her

1532
01:25:46,280 --> 01:25:49,000
Speaker 3: back like in terms of you know her, I mean,

1533
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:51,040
Speaker 3: I know she's been around in her entire life. That

1534
01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:51,920
Speaker 3: goes without saying.

1535
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 2: She's talked about it before, Jake that she doesn't so

1536
01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:56,560
Speaker 2: she can have an understanding on what the co communications

1537
01:25:56,600 --> 01:25:58,960
Speaker 2: like on the field. And again, this is something that's

1538
01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:04,240
Speaker 2: just not this year. She is doing this for the past. Again,

1539
01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:06,160
Speaker 2: I know that, and that's and we know that she's

1540
01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:08,200
Speaker 2: done that because it's been pointed out before. The difference

1541
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:09,920
Speaker 2: being now that that she is the one with the

1542
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:13,040
Speaker 2: ultimate say that's why now it's being scrutinized more than

1543
01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:13,840
Speaker 2: it was in the past.

1544
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:19,000
Speaker 3: But the the my point is simply this, Well, how.

1545
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:21,080
Speaker 2: Do you feel about it that she's in the player

1546
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 2: meetings during the week as well. She's in the positional meetings.

1547
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:26,080
Speaker 2: It's not like she's just on the sideline. Cam Bienen

1548
01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:28,920
Speaker 2: has talked about that, she's in the DV meetings one day.

1549
01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:31,559
Speaker 2: Next week, she's in the defensive line or the running

1550
01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:31,880
Speaker 2: back meets.

1551
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:35,880
Speaker 3: Okay, And again my answer is the same, and that

1552
01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:39,280
Speaker 3: is and I'm not saying in your case, none of

1553
01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:41,559
Speaker 3: that would be brought into question to anybody if she

1554
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:45,679
Speaker 3: was a guy. I do believe that, and that's that's

1555
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:51,559
Speaker 3: that is what I'm saying, is that's wrong, that that's

1556
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:55,680
Speaker 3: the I agree that that is that should That's totally irrelevant.

1557
01:26:56,280 --> 01:26:58,960
Speaker 3: She's the owner and if the and in most what

1558
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:02,120
Speaker 3: I'm saying is this, in most cases, if the owner

1559
01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:05,479
Speaker 3: was in the meeting room or listening on headsets or

1560
01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:10,960
Speaker 3: opining in any way, people would would say, that's awesome,

1561
01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 3: my owner cares, My owner understands football. And maybe most

1562
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:16,120
Speaker 3: people about the Colts say that about her. I don't know.

1563
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:19,760
Speaker 3: But from a national standpoint, the narrative of like, gosh,

1564
01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:22,840
Speaker 3: look at this here, is this a distraction? Whatever else?

1565
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:26,240
Speaker 3: And that's not been an overwhelming theme in talking about

1566
01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:29,120
Speaker 3: the Colts. But it's been mentioned, and it's been you

1567
01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:31,599
Speaker 3: hear people whisper about it. And my point I'm going

1568
01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:34,040
Speaker 3: to go back to is simply that when when I

1569
01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:36,040
Speaker 3: covered the Rams and Georgia Frontier was the owner of

1570
01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:39,560
Speaker 3: the Rams, and people thought that, like, well, she's just

1571
01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:42,720
Speaker 3: somebody that just inherited the franchise and doesn't know what

1572
01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:44,600
Speaker 3: she's doing, and then they win the Super Bowl and

1573
01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:49,080
Speaker 3: everybody goes, gosh, maybe she does. She's been around her

1574
01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:53,920
Speaker 3: entire life. She probably has a general idea of you

1575
01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:56,559
Speaker 3: don't have to know football to be able to assess

1576
01:27:57,240 --> 01:27:59,680
Speaker 3: lines of communication and whether or not you believe that

1577
01:27:59,720 --> 01:28:04,439
Speaker 3: people have the right mentality in situations to make decisions

1578
01:28:04,479 --> 01:28:07,160
Speaker 3: in heated moments. And I think that's what she's assessing

1579
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:10,960
Speaker 3: and evaluating. But I think the scrutiny of her and

1580
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:15,840
Speaker 3: I think the questioning of her has bias, and it's

1581
01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:19,439
Speaker 3: a bias that is unfair and is wrong. But it

1582
01:28:19,479 --> 01:28:23,400
Speaker 3: was a huge weekend of sports, huge that all tied together,

1583
01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 3: and we'll retie that bow again and Taekwon lewis going

1584
01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:32,360
Speaker 3: to join us about thirty five minutes from now. Colts

1585
01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:37,920
Speaker 3: yesterday in emphatic fashion over the Tennessee Titans. Zire Franklin.

1586
01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:40,160
Speaker 3: You heard it from talking there. Matt Taylor, voice of

1587
01:28:40,160 --> 01:28:43,160
Speaker 3: the Colts on the radio, calls Shane Steiken as well

1588
01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:46,679
Speaker 3: as it was a resounding victory. You heard Shane Steiken

1589
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:50,320
Speaker 3: mentioned four sacks of cam Ward, half of those turned

1590
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:54,440
Speaker 3: in by Taekwon Lewis. He's going to join us. Estimated

1591
01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:58,240
Speaker 3: about fifteen minutes from now. We'll see Taekwon Lewis after

1592
01:28:58,240 --> 01:29:01,519
Speaker 3: their meetings to day going to call the show. What

1593
01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:03,679
Speaker 3: time exactly he does call in, but we do anticipate

1594
01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:06,439
Speaker 3: it being in this hour. And it was a loaded

1595
01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:10,240
Speaker 3: sports weekend in Indiana, and I wanted to get back

1596
01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:12,519
Speaker 3: into that in terms of how I thought it was

1597
01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 3: interesting how they all kind of intertwined and let me explain.

1598
01:29:17,200 --> 01:29:19,240
Speaker 3: Saturday night things really got in the way. And yes,

1599
01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:21,360
Speaker 3: I know that, you know, Purdue and Notre Dame, and

1600
01:29:21,479 --> 01:29:25,519
Speaker 3: I thought, you know, obviously Notre Dame's really good and

1601
01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:29,320
Speaker 3: needed to get into that the right swing of things there,

1602
01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:31,680
Speaker 3: because you know that they were better than what their

1603
01:29:31,720 --> 01:29:34,559
Speaker 3: schedule in the first two weeks had indicated. And I

1604
01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:39,479
Speaker 3: thought Purdue showed some competency and just you know, they

1605
01:29:39,479 --> 01:29:41,519
Speaker 3: had to use some trickery and things like that, but

1606
01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:43,640
Speaker 3: for a team that is still wearing name tags with

1607
01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:47,599
Speaker 3: one another at the very least. I don't know what

1608
01:29:47,640 --> 01:29:51,640
Speaker 3: produced talent levels like, but I think Barry otom is.

1609
01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:54,920
Speaker 3: I just I like what I see out of it.

1610
01:29:55,240 --> 01:29:59,720
Speaker 3: They look like they are bought in and have some foundation.

1611
01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:02,400
Speaker 3: And if you consider where Purdue was coming what they

1612
01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:05,320
Speaker 3: were coming off of under Ryan waltzs they foundation was

1613
01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:08,559
Speaker 3: the first thing they needed. And that game, of course,

1614
01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:11,280
Speaker 3: goes into the lightning delay and bleeds over into the

1615
01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:14,000
Speaker 3: Indiana game. It delays the start of things at Memorial

1616
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:19,599
Speaker 3: Stadium for Bloomington Bloomington, and then Indiana goes out and

1617
01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:23,360
Speaker 3: they get the blocked punt against Illinois. They're off and running.

1618
01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:30,920
Speaker 3: And Indiana did what they did a year ago. They

1619
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:33,120
Speaker 3: get a lead in a game, they take over in

1620
01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:35,840
Speaker 3: a game, they get up seven to nothing. Illinois comes back,

1621
01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:39,000
Speaker 3: I realized scores. But then all of a sudden, Indiana's

1622
01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:42,040
Speaker 3: up seven. Then you go and you get a coke

1623
01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:43,760
Speaker 3: and you come back and use a restaurant whatever, and

1624
01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:45,400
Speaker 3: you're like, oh, okay, they just got to take away,

1625
01:30:45,400 --> 01:30:48,720
Speaker 3: and you know, now they're up fourteen. Gosh, you know

1626
01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:50,439
Speaker 3: I wonder if if Illinois is going to be able

1627
01:30:50,479 --> 01:30:52,000
Speaker 3: to get back into the swing of things here, and

1628
01:30:52,040 --> 01:30:55,360
Speaker 3: surely you know this, They're not gonna this isn't it's

1629
01:30:55,400 --> 01:30:57,240
Speaker 3: not gonna go this way all night. And then they're

1630
01:30:57,320 --> 01:31:02,280
Speaker 3: up seventeen. Then they're up to Indiana in terms of

1631
01:31:02,439 --> 01:31:04,479
Speaker 3: I mean, if you look at what Fernando Mendoza was

1632
01:31:04,520 --> 01:31:06,559
Speaker 3: able to do at the quarterbacking spot, twenty one to

1633
01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:10,960
Speaker 3: twenty three for two sixty seven five touchdowns, just totally efficient,

1634
01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:16,439
Speaker 3: totally efficient, and IU ends up getting the most points

1635
01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:19,439
Speaker 3: against the top ten team in Big Ten history. And

1636
01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:21,880
Speaker 3: it starts out with just getting a lead and then

1637
01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:25,479
Speaker 3: just building and compounding and compounding and compounding, and before

1638
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:27,679
Speaker 3: you know what, it's like that credit card. If you're Illinois,

1639
01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:29,880
Speaker 3: it's like that credit card debt that has the higher

1640
01:31:29,920 --> 01:31:33,040
Speaker 3: interest rate than you realize, and now you're in over

1641
01:31:33,040 --> 01:31:38,040
Speaker 3: your head in Indiana. That's how Indiana under Kurt Signetty

1642
01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:41,519
Speaker 3: has won games. They just they don't blow you away.

1643
01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:44,600
Speaker 3: You keep waiting for somebody to take them seriously, and

1644
01:31:44,680 --> 01:31:48,040
Speaker 3: people don't, and so they just keep pouring it on.

1645
01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:53,519
Speaker 3: And as I was thinking about that and assessing all

1646
01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:55,479
Speaker 3: that and reading about all the records they said and

1647
01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:59,760
Speaker 3: whatever else. Then I'm watching the Colts game on Sunday,

1648
01:32:00,360 --> 01:32:03,960
Speaker 3: and the Colts so far, and yes, now it gets

1649
01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:05,960
Speaker 3: real for the Colts. The Colts have now and I

1650
01:32:06,040 --> 01:32:10,160
Speaker 3: get the Denver game. Denver's pretty good. Denver absolutely gave

1651
01:32:10,200 --> 01:32:15,559
Speaker 3: one away again yesterday. But Denver is better than Miami

1652
01:32:15,640 --> 01:32:18,360
Speaker 3: and they're better than Tennessee. But nonetheless for the Colts,

1653
01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:20,639
Speaker 3: if you look at it, the Colts just went through

1654
01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:24,160
Speaker 3: their Kennesaw State Old Dominion Indiana state stretch. And now

1655
01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:25,640
Speaker 3: it gets real because you got to go and you

1656
01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:27,960
Speaker 3: got to take on the Rams in La. Rams are

1657
01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:31,000
Speaker 3: really good. Then you get two of them at home

1658
01:32:31,040 --> 01:32:33,960
Speaker 3: where you know, you're kind of it's like you're back

1659
01:32:33,960 --> 01:32:38,760
Speaker 3: home and you're taking on like Northwestern and Rutgers, you know,

1660
01:32:38,920 --> 01:32:41,360
Speaker 3: I mean, you got to take them serious, but still

1661
01:32:41,400 --> 01:32:42,720
Speaker 3: and then you go back and you got to play

1662
01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:44,640
Speaker 3: the Chargers on the road. So two of the next

1663
01:32:44,720 --> 01:32:47,439
Speaker 3: four for the Colts, I think, pretty good tests. But

1664
01:32:47,560 --> 01:32:50,080
Speaker 3: the Indianapolis Colts are good. They're three and oh they're

1665
01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:53,680
Speaker 3: one of six unbeatens in the NFL. They're good, and

1666
01:32:53,720 --> 01:32:56,040
Speaker 3: they are good because they're sound in a ton of

1667
01:32:56,040 --> 01:32:58,160
Speaker 3: different areas and give credit to Chris Ballard and give

1668
01:32:58,200 --> 01:33:00,240
Speaker 3: credit to Shane Styke in the areas that they said

1669
01:33:00,280 --> 01:33:02,479
Speaker 3: they wanted to be sound, they are. And it begins

1670
01:33:02,479 --> 01:33:07,600
Speaker 3: at the quarterback play. And Daniel Jones yesterday had a

1671
01:33:07,640 --> 01:33:12,040
Speaker 3: play that I thought showed all of that Jones had

1672
01:33:12,040 --> 01:33:13,680
Speaker 3: to play in that game. You guys all know what

1673
01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:17,080
Speaker 3: I'm talking about. Where he goes back and he's looking

1674
01:33:17,080 --> 01:33:20,599
Speaker 3: through his progressions and just nothing's open. And he goes

1675
01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:25,960
Speaker 3: through his reads and no one's open, and so he

1676
01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:28,400
Speaker 3: basically tucks the ball and now he's going to run.

1677
01:33:29,720 --> 01:33:32,320
Speaker 3: And he runs, and he's a better athlete than you think,

1678
01:33:32,400 --> 01:33:36,160
Speaker 3: and he is, you know he can. Jonathan Taylor was

1679
01:33:36,160 --> 01:33:38,080
Speaker 3: talking about how fast he is and how he's you know,

1680
01:33:38,120 --> 01:33:40,960
Speaker 3: he's got that kind of speed, and then he slides

1681
01:33:42,120 --> 01:33:45,360
Speaker 3: just before he gets hit. And you say, to yourself,

1682
01:33:46,720 --> 01:33:50,559
Speaker 3: this is what The last two Colts quarterbacks that we

1683
01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:55,920
Speaker 3: thought were going to be the franchise quarterbacks aired on

1684
01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:58,040
Speaker 3: this kind of play in two different ways. Number One,

1685
01:33:58,120 --> 01:34:00,479
Speaker 3: one of them probably doesn't go through all of his reads.

1686
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:05,600
Speaker 3: And I'm talking about Anthony Richardson because he is conditioned

1687
01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:07,759
Speaker 3: to just want to run the ball, and he certainly

1688
01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:13,559
Speaker 3: is athletic enough to do so. But before he even

1689
01:34:13,600 --> 01:34:16,000
Speaker 3: does that, maybe he makes the wrong decision or he

1690
01:34:16,120 --> 01:34:18,800
Speaker 3: throws the ball the wrong place or whatever else. Then

1691
01:34:18,840 --> 01:34:21,160
Speaker 3: you had Andrew Luck who was capable of doing all

1692
01:34:21,200 --> 01:34:23,320
Speaker 3: of it, but like refuse to slide and go down

1693
01:34:23,439 --> 01:34:29,479
Speaker 3: right and batters himself into retirement essentially, And it just

1694
01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:36,600
Speaker 3: showed in multiple ways the poise of Daniel Jones. And

1695
01:34:36,760 --> 01:34:41,000
Speaker 3: is Daniel Jones, Burt Jones. No, Is Daniel Jones, Joe

1696
01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:45,040
Speaker 3: Montana No. But when you have the weapons the Colts

1697
01:34:45,080 --> 01:34:51,400
Speaker 3: have and the increased and I love what they're doing

1698
01:34:51,439 --> 01:34:53,880
Speaker 3: with Alec Pierce, right, I mean the increased use of

1699
01:34:53,920 --> 01:34:57,280
Speaker 3: Alec Pearson areas beyond where he was supposed to be used.

1700
01:34:58,080 --> 01:35:01,799
Speaker 3: When you factor all of those things in, then Jones

1701
01:35:01,880 --> 01:35:04,240
Speaker 3: right now for what Shane Steichen wants to call and

1702
01:35:04,280 --> 01:35:06,960
Speaker 3: for what this Colts team wants to do, and playing

1703
01:35:07,000 --> 01:35:12,920
Speaker 3: within themselves and just being steady and growing leads and

1704
01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:15,160
Speaker 3: not making mistakes and not turning the ball over and

1705
01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:18,599
Speaker 3: not punting. Ricoberto Sanchez finally got it, you know, earned

1706
01:35:18,600 --> 01:35:22,720
Speaker 3: his paycheck, but for the most part, just controlling possession,

1707
01:35:23,160 --> 01:35:27,400
Speaker 3: controlling the ball, making the right decisions. That's what Daniel

1708
01:35:27,479 --> 01:35:29,800
Speaker 3: Jones is doing, and that's carrying over to the entire

1709
01:35:29,840 --> 01:35:35,360
Speaker 3: Colts team where they are stable, steady, efficient, consistent, and

1710
01:35:35,360 --> 01:35:38,960
Speaker 3: they're unbeaten. And they reminded me of Indiana in that way.

1711
01:35:40,760 --> 01:35:46,280
Speaker 3: And then as that's taking place, then you flip over

1712
01:35:47,320 --> 01:35:49,720
Speaker 3: and I'm like, I'm seeing another team in town in

1713
01:35:49,800 --> 01:35:53,200
Speaker 3: this loaded weekend of sports that's taking place in central Indiana,

1714
01:35:53,640 --> 01:35:57,439
Speaker 3: and I'm seeing another example of two different storylines sports

1715
01:35:57,479 --> 01:36:00,519
Speaker 3: related in Indiana that look like one another and mirror

1716
01:36:00,520 --> 01:36:06,360
Speaker 3: one another. And I'm talking about Cole Hawker, who, Yes,

1717
01:36:06,479 --> 01:36:08,599
Speaker 3: I get it. I hear you right now. You're like, Jake,

1718
01:36:08,640 --> 01:36:11,479
Speaker 3: the Colts are three, and oh Colts, Colts, Colts, the

1719
01:36:11,479 --> 01:36:14,000
Speaker 3: Cults are three, and Oh Taekwon Lewis had two sacks.

1720
01:36:14,040 --> 01:36:16,320
Speaker 3: He's going to join your show. And I'm listening in

1721
01:36:16,360 --> 01:36:19,599
Speaker 3: to you talking about a long distance runner from Cathedral

1722
01:36:19,680 --> 01:36:23,320
Speaker 3: High School. Yes, and I know he went to Oregon

1723
01:36:23,640 --> 01:36:28,720
Speaker 3: Olympian Cole Hawker from Cathedral High School, Indianapolis native, and

1724
01:36:29,200 --> 01:36:32,680
Speaker 3: he goes out to the World Championships in Tokyo and

1725
01:36:32,760 --> 01:36:36,240
Speaker 3: the fifteen hundred is his area of expertise in his

1726
01:36:36,320 --> 01:36:40,320
Speaker 3: best event and he's disqualified last week, so which means

1727
01:36:40,360 --> 01:36:43,559
Speaker 3: we've got to wait until late Friday, technically early Saturday

1728
01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:47,559
Speaker 3: morning for us, much of which didn't even you didn't

1729
01:36:47,560 --> 01:36:51,000
Speaker 3: even know about until late Saturday. Of the five thousand

1730
01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:57,799
Speaker 3: meter event, And if you watch that event, Cole Hawker

1731
01:36:58,080 --> 01:37:00,559
Speaker 3: is as they're routing the last lap and they're heading

1732
01:37:00,640 --> 01:37:05,040
Speaker 3: into turn number four. He's in like sixth place, and

1733
01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:08,800
Speaker 3: he'd been disqualified in the fifteen hundred and just kind

1734
01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:11,800
Speaker 3: of put out the pasture in the five thousand here

1735
01:37:12,040 --> 01:37:15,000
Speaker 3: where you didn't know what was going to happen, but

1736
01:37:15,200 --> 01:37:19,559
Speaker 3: down the stretch when it mattered most, when things finally

1737
01:37:19,600 --> 01:37:26,120
Speaker 3: straightened out on that last lap, he finds himself stride

1738
01:37:26,280 --> 01:37:29,760
Speaker 3: and he goes from sixth to fifth to fourth to

1739
01:37:29,800 --> 01:37:34,639
Speaker 3: third in a flash. And then in the last fifty

1740
01:37:34,720 --> 01:37:38,240
Speaker 3: meters the announcers are like, oh, my goodness, because it

1741
01:37:38,280 --> 01:37:40,920
Speaker 3: was kind of out of nowhere, but here comes Cole Hawker,

1742
01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:43,960
Speaker 3: and holy cow, I don't think there's any turning back

1743
01:37:44,560 --> 01:37:48,920
Speaker 3: and he wins. And I thought about the Fever season

1744
01:37:50,439 --> 01:37:55,320
Speaker 3: and when Caitlin Clark got hurt and when Sophie Cunningham

1745
01:37:55,360 --> 01:37:59,360
Speaker 3: got hurt and Ariel MacDonald got hurt, and it seemed

1746
01:37:59,400 --> 01:38:03,800
Speaker 3: like They're Sea was disqualified and it seemed like the

1747
01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:06,400
Speaker 3: area in the back court where they needed to be

1748
01:38:06,479 --> 01:38:13,320
Speaker 3: their best, they were disqualified and left for out. And

1749
01:38:13,360 --> 01:38:15,400
Speaker 3: then and we talked about it Thursday night, what they

1750
01:38:15,400 --> 01:38:19,320
Speaker 3: did in Atlanta to get into now the final four,

1751
01:38:19,520 --> 01:38:21,800
Speaker 3: if you will, air quotes of the WNBA, and you

1752
01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:23,479
Speaker 3: got to take on Las Vegas, one of the best

1753
01:38:23,520 --> 01:38:30,719
Speaker 3: franchises out there. But when their season came down into

1754
01:38:31,040 --> 01:38:33,920
Speaker 3: essentially now, what is the final turn of the final lap?

1755
01:38:34,120 --> 01:38:35,920
Speaker 3: I guess you'd have one lap left if you consider

1756
01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:38,360
Speaker 3: that the finals will be the next round. But here

1757
01:38:38,400 --> 01:38:42,479
Speaker 3: they are and kind of left for out, And when

1758
01:38:42,520 --> 01:38:44,800
Speaker 3: it comes to the backcourt, you're looking at like being

1759
01:38:44,880 --> 01:38:49,759
Speaker 3: pigeonholed back there behind four or five people. And yet

1760
01:38:50,240 --> 01:38:54,160
Speaker 3: Kelsey Mitchell, who has been unbelievable for the Fever all year,

1761
01:38:55,479 --> 01:39:00,719
Speaker 3: has a thirty four point Night Afternoon, specifically ote Simms,

1762
01:39:01,120 --> 01:39:03,960
Speaker 3: who wasn't even on their roster at the beginning of

1763
01:39:04,000 --> 01:39:05,920
Speaker 3: the year. This is a team in the Fever that

1764
01:39:05,960 --> 01:39:07,960
Speaker 3: in the middle of August were coming off a stretch

1765
01:39:07,960 --> 01:39:11,040
Speaker 3: where they lost five of seven games. But like Cole

1766
01:39:11,040 --> 01:39:14,559
Speaker 3: Hawker at the point where it seemed like they were

1767
01:39:14,640 --> 01:39:18,000
Speaker 3: boxed and they couldn't make that move. Then all of

1768
01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:20,679
Speaker 3: a sudden, this opening happens, in this clearance is there,

1769
01:39:21,040 --> 01:39:23,000
Speaker 3: and before you know it, people are looking at it, going,

1770
01:39:23,120 --> 01:39:28,920
Speaker 3: holy cow, here they come. And in that game yesterday

1771
01:39:28,960 --> 01:39:32,720
Speaker 3: against Las Vegas, they were up five to seven for

1772
01:39:32,880 --> 01:39:36,080
Speaker 3: most of the first two and a half quarters, and

1773
01:39:36,120 --> 01:39:42,280
Speaker 3: then Las Vegas makes a run, gets it close, and

1774
01:39:42,320 --> 01:39:49,559
Speaker 3: then like Indiana, like the Colts, like Cole Hawker who

1775
01:39:49,640 --> 01:39:52,320
Speaker 3: had been disqualified in a different event, but now all

1776
01:39:52,360 --> 01:39:55,479
Speaker 3: of a sudden season opening. That's exactly what the Fever,

1777
01:39:55,560 --> 01:39:58,800
Speaker 3: who most of us disqualified as being out and dead

1778
01:39:58,840 --> 01:40:02,599
Speaker 3: to rights when their back court was decimated by injury.

1779
01:40:02,640 --> 01:40:05,719
Speaker 3: And here they are, and they are six wins away

1780
01:40:05,720 --> 01:40:08,760
Speaker 3: from the WNBA title, and they are two wins away

1781
01:40:08,760 --> 01:40:12,200
Speaker 3: from advancing to the finals. After getting a win on

1782
01:40:12,240 --> 01:40:15,120
Speaker 3: the road and now coming back here, Eddie, they have

1783
01:40:15,240 --> 01:40:18,080
Speaker 3: stolen home court advantage away from Las Vegas.

1784
01:40:18,160 --> 01:40:20,000
Speaker 2: Yep, how many times did you talk about it, Jake

1785
01:40:20,040 --> 01:40:22,600
Speaker 2: during the course of the Pacers playoff run that the

1786
01:40:22,640 --> 01:40:24,439
Speaker 2: first game for the road team is always the easiest,

1787
01:40:24,960 --> 01:40:27,240
Speaker 2: and that was certainly the case yesterday for the Fever,

1788
01:40:27,280 --> 01:40:30,639
Speaker 2: and there might have been some hangover potentially with Vegas

1789
01:40:30,720 --> 01:40:34,200
Speaker 2: with just how emotionally and hard fought that game was

1790
01:40:34,240 --> 01:40:37,160
Speaker 2: against Seattle. To advance from Game three just two nights prior,

1791
01:40:37,640 --> 01:40:39,920
Speaker 2: Fever were able to take care of business, and I thought, Jake,

1792
01:40:40,400 --> 01:40:43,559
Speaker 2: they had an advantage of just being able to attack

1793
01:40:43,600 --> 01:40:47,240
Speaker 2: the basket and getting by Las Vegas. Vegas couldn't stay

1794
01:40:47,240 --> 01:40:48,960
Speaker 2: in front of them, and so they were able to

1795
01:40:48,960 --> 01:40:51,120
Speaker 2: get in the paint, get some easy looks at the rim,

1796
01:40:51,280 --> 01:40:53,320
Speaker 2: kick out for some shooters. They knocked down five threes

1797
01:40:53,360 --> 01:40:57,040
Speaker 2: and limited the aces to five as well. So they

1798
01:40:57,040 --> 01:40:58,840
Speaker 2: have to build on it now and hopefully they can

1799
01:40:58,880 --> 01:41:01,680
Speaker 2: come back to Gamebridge Field House on Friday with a

1800
01:41:01,720 --> 01:41:02,559
Speaker 2: two zero series lead.

1801
01:41:02,720 --> 01:41:04,640
Speaker 3: It's been a long time since we have had a

1802
01:41:04,720 --> 01:41:07,640
Speaker 3: weekend in sports in Central Indiana that eclipses what we

1803
01:41:07,720 --> 01:41:12,680
Speaker 3: just saw in terms of the level of play, the

1804
01:41:13,320 --> 01:41:17,040
Speaker 3: huge wins. And I get it. I mean, I understand

1805
01:41:18,400 --> 01:41:21,720
Speaker 3: that Purdue didn't win on Saturday, but still, I mean

1806
01:41:21,760 --> 01:41:25,479
Speaker 3: they're playing, you know, a nationally ranked team. I know

1807
01:41:25,479 --> 01:41:29,760
Speaker 3: that Notre Dame was looking for their first win, but nonetheless,

1808
01:41:29,800 --> 01:41:33,280
Speaker 3: you know, clearly, I think everybody knows one of the

1809
01:41:33,320 --> 01:41:35,519
Speaker 3: twenty best programs in the country this year.

1810
01:41:35,560 --> 01:41:39,360
Speaker 2: Did you see the breaking news Jake breaking news Sports Today,

1811
01:41:43,040 --> 01:41:47,200
Speaker 2: College basketball news. Bruce Pearl announces his retirement effective immediately.

1812
01:41:48,280 --> 01:41:50,920
Speaker 3: Really m hm, Now let me ask you this, did

1813
01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:54,920
Speaker 3: Bruce Pearl? Does it say a reason for it? Is

1814
01:41:54,920 --> 01:41:55,960
Speaker 3: there a health issue?

1815
01:41:55,960 --> 01:41:56,200
Speaker 11: There?

1816
01:41:56,520 --> 01:42:00,439
Speaker 3: No, Bruce Pearl is his.

1817
01:42:00,479 --> 01:42:03,479
Speaker 2: Son, Stephen will be the head coach for the upcoming season.

1818
01:42:05,000 --> 01:42:10,599
Speaker 3: Here's the thing about Bruce Pearl. Southern Indiana obviously won

1819
01:42:10,640 --> 01:42:15,080
Speaker 3: a national title there. You know, the storylines of his

1820
01:42:15,080 --> 01:42:18,200
Speaker 3: history with you know, in terms of the Illinois Iowa

1821
01:42:18,520 --> 01:42:21,080
Speaker 3: scuffle that he was in scuffles the wrong word but

1822
01:42:22,040 --> 01:42:25,519
Speaker 3: controversy that he was involved in coaching at Tennessee, then

1823
01:42:25,600 --> 01:42:30,640
Speaker 3: going to Auburn and great coach at Auburn. And he

1824
01:42:30,800 --> 01:42:33,439
Speaker 3: is one that has been rumored or linked to the

1825
01:42:33,479 --> 01:42:36,840
Speaker 3: Indiana openings that they've had over the last couple of years.

1826
01:42:38,200 --> 01:42:40,440
Speaker 3: I have met Bruce Pearl on a couple of occasions.

1827
01:42:40,560 --> 01:42:45,080
Speaker 3: I think he is a tremendous basketball coach. I think

1828
01:42:45,120 --> 01:42:50,799
Speaker 3: he some of the indiscretions that have been rumored at Auburn,

1829
01:42:50,960 --> 01:42:53,479
Speaker 3: many of which now are legal, you know what I mean.

1830
01:42:53,520 --> 01:42:55,519
Speaker 3: I mean just in terms of there's always been a

1831
01:42:55,600 --> 01:42:58,960
Speaker 3: rumor of payments and those sorts of things. Bruce Pearl.

1832
01:42:59,120 --> 01:43:00,759
Speaker 3: The best way that I can say it about Bruce

1833
01:43:00,760 --> 01:43:05,160
Speaker 3: Pearl in the times that I met Bruce Pearl and

1834
01:43:05,200 --> 01:43:10,160
Speaker 3: been around him, and there this is he has this

1835
01:43:10,400 --> 01:43:14,080
Speaker 3: unique ability. You meet Bruce Pearl for five minutes and

1836
01:43:14,120 --> 01:43:16,280
Speaker 3: you walk away and you think to yourself, that guy

1837
01:43:16,320 --> 01:43:20,280
Speaker 3: thinks we're best friends. That guy treated me like like

1838
01:43:20,360 --> 01:43:24,520
Speaker 3: I was the best man in his wedding. Unbelievable personality,

1839
01:43:24,920 --> 01:43:33,600
Speaker 3: total charisma, total energy, fabulous, fabulous personality. And when I

1840
01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:36,080
Speaker 3: say every time, it's not like it's been abundant. But

1841
01:43:36,240 --> 01:43:38,600
Speaker 3: in the times that I've been around Bruce Pearl, the

1842
01:43:38,640 --> 01:43:41,240
Speaker 3: two things I always say is I walk away from

1843
01:43:41,280 --> 01:43:43,880
Speaker 3: Bruce Pearl after being around him saying to myself, I

1844
01:43:43,920 --> 01:43:46,000
Speaker 3: think that guy's my best friend, and I think I

1845
01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:50,200
Speaker 3: need a shower just it's I'm ready to run through

1846
01:43:50,200 --> 01:43:52,599
Speaker 3: a wall for that guy. And at the same time

1847
01:43:53,200 --> 01:43:56,600
Speaker 3: I'm looking over to see if maybe I didn't realize

1848
01:43:56,600 --> 01:43:59,839
Speaker 3: that I just signed up for like a timeshare somewhere

1849
01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:01,599
Speaker 3: that I'm going to pay for the rest of my life.

1850
01:44:03,120 --> 01:44:06,080
Speaker 3: But a fabulous coach that is an interesting, and I

1851
01:44:06,120 --> 01:44:11,840
Speaker 3: wonder if that is. You know, Bruce Pearl is one

1852
01:44:12,080 --> 01:44:20,120
Speaker 3: that I want to say, was there was there a

1853
01:44:20,200 --> 01:44:22,840
Speaker 3: controversy he was involved in at the end of last year.

1854
01:44:22,880 --> 01:44:25,519
Speaker 3: I certainly hope that is not a health related issue.

1855
01:44:26,240 --> 01:44:30,280
Speaker 3: He is sixty five years old, which is somewhat surprising.

1856
01:44:30,880 --> 01:44:33,639
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, he comes off he's a youthful

1857
01:44:33,680 --> 01:44:38,080
Speaker 3: sixty five. But nonetheless, that's it. That will be a

1858
01:44:39,720 --> 01:44:41,719
Speaker 3: what's interesting about it? But here's what he said. Quote,

1859
01:44:41,760 --> 01:44:44,519
Speaker 3: It's certainly something that I had considered. It's something I

1860
01:44:44,520 --> 01:44:46,519
Speaker 3: thought a great deal about. But obviously I'm here today.

1861
01:44:46,520 --> 01:44:48,839
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm in practice and I've got practice tomorrow.

1862
01:44:49,200 --> 01:44:55,200
Speaker 3: I'm sorry he had said that earlier. I guess this

1863
01:44:55,360 --> 01:45:00,800
Speaker 3: year maybe, but he Milwaukee also, I forgot he had

1864
01:45:00,840 --> 01:45:04,120
Speaker 3: coached at Milwaukee. Fabulous coach. Pearl was given a three

1865
01:45:04,200 --> 01:45:07,080
Speaker 3: year show cause penalty by the NCAA, with Auburn hiring

1866
01:45:07,120 --> 01:45:11,080
Speaker 3: him five months before it ended. Back when some of

1867
01:45:11,080 --> 01:45:15,599
Speaker 3: the controversies he's been involved with. But he what's interesting

1868
01:45:15,680 --> 01:45:18,599
Speaker 3: is you would say that that leads a major void

1869
01:45:18,720 --> 01:45:22,400
Speaker 3: and a huge job opening college basketball. But Pearl was

1870
01:45:22,400 --> 01:45:25,120
Speaker 3: a better coach than that job is if that makes sense.

1871
01:45:25,240 --> 01:45:28,000
Speaker 3: That's not to say Auburn's a bad job, but that

1872
01:45:28,160 --> 01:45:30,920
Speaker 3: was a good job because of Bruce Pearl and what

1873
01:45:31,000 --> 01:45:33,519
Speaker 3: he did for it, more so than just any coach.

1874
01:45:33,560 --> 01:45:36,720
Speaker 3: Would you know immediately like line up to take over

1875
01:45:36,800 --> 01:45:41,200
Speaker 3: the Auburn program. The big news sixty five year old

1876
01:45:41,200 --> 01:45:46,439
Speaker 3: Bruce Pearl in fact retiring today that Eddie just mentioned

1877
01:45:46,439 --> 01:45:53,679
Speaker 3: coming out. But back to the coach yesterday, then easy

1878
01:45:53,840 --> 01:45:57,920
Speaker 3: narrative would be to say, look, that got a big win,

1879
01:45:58,080 --> 01:46:00,000
Speaker 3: and that was a huge win, but at the same time,

1880
01:46:00,360 --> 01:46:04,679
Speaker 3: the Titans aren't any good, which is true. But Eddie,

1881
01:46:04,720 --> 01:46:07,120
Speaker 3: you've got to win the games against the teams that

1882
01:46:07,160 --> 01:46:08,840
Speaker 3: aren't any good, and you've got to do it in

1883
01:46:08,920 --> 01:46:11,519
Speaker 3: resounding fashion if you are to be taken serious. And

1884
01:46:11,560 --> 01:46:13,800
Speaker 3: there are six teams unbeaten in the NFL, and I

1885
01:46:13,800 --> 01:46:16,000
Speaker 3: don't know that any of them you would immediately say

1886
01:46:16,439 --> 01:46:18,880
Speaker 3: jumps out at you as like they are definitively better

1887
01:46:18,920 --> 01:46:23,000
Speaker 3: than the Indianapolis Colts. Because the Colts, yes, that Broncos game,

1888
01:46:23,240 --> 01:46:26,799
Speaker 3: they got gifted a little bit, but they did hang around.

1889
01:46:26,880 --> 01:46:29,599
Speaker 3: I mean, if you look at it, they there were

1890
01:46:29,680 --> 01:46:32,800
Speaker 3: several opportunities for Denver to separate in that game, and

1891
01:46:32,840 --> 01:46:35,880
Speaker 3: the Colts found they were very they had a lot

1892
01:46:35,880 --> 01:46:41,120
Speaker 3: of resolve in that game, and obviously they're completely controlled Miami.

1893
01:46:41,479 --> 01:46:43,960
Speaker 3: They were never in doubt in game number one, they

1894
01:46:44,000 --> 01:46:46,240
Speaker 3: were never in doubt in game number three. There are

1895
01:46:46,360 --> 01:46:49,519
Speaker 3: very few teams in the NFL that go multiple weeks

1896
01:46:49,560 --> 01:46:54,280
Speaker 3: consecutively with never being in doubt. I mean, for that matter,

1897
01:46:54,720 --> 01:46:57,479
Speaker 3: Green Bay is one that we just assumed is going

1898
01:46:57,560 --> 01:47:00,679
Speaker 3: to be an upper echelon team that's going to lead

1899
01:47:00,880 --> 01:47:03,360
Speaker 3: or be in control of every game they play. And

1900
01:47:03,400 --> 01:47:06,080
Speaker 3: when you go up against bad teams as Cleveland is,

1901
01:47:06,240 --> 01:47:08,840
Speaker 3: you're supposed to be able to not just win that game,

1902
01:47:08,840 --> 01:47:12,400
Speaker 3: but control those games. And they didn't do it. Not

1903
01:47:12,520 --> 01:47:14,599
Speaker 3: for long. Is what the NFL stands for, and the

1904
01:47:14,640 --> 01:47:17,680
Speaker 3: parody of the league gets designed for that. It's designed

1905
01:47:18,000 --> 01:47:20,360
Speaker 3: to keep you invested and interested from one game to

1906
01:47:20,400 --> 01:47:22,400
Speaker 3: the next because you just kind of never know what

1907
01:47:22,479 --> 01:47:26,920
Speaker 3: will happen. And even with that, there are only six

1908
01:47:27,040 --> 01:47:31,840
Speaker 3: now twenty percent of the league that are unblemished, and

1909
01:47:31,880 --> 01:47:38,280
Speaker 3: the culture one of them. The Chargers, the Niners, the Bills.

1910
01:47:38,720 --> 01:47:40,439
Speaker 3: I think the Bills are really good. I think the

1911
01:47:40,600 --> 01:47:44,320
Speaker 3: Chargers are really good. Who am I missing here? Eddie,

1912
01:47:44,320 --> 01:47:48,320
Speaker 3: the Eagles, Buccaneers, the Colts and the Bucks, and Tampa's

1913
01:47:48,360 --> 01:47:52,360
Speaker 3: the other one. If you stopped one hundred people, who's

1914
01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:53,559
Speaker 3: tonight's Monday night matchup?

1915
01:47:55,080 --> 01:47:57,520
Speaker 2: It is the Ravens and the Lions.

1916
01:47:58,760 --> 01:48:00,439
Speaker 3: If you stop the one hundred pe people at that

1917
01:48:00,479 --> 01:48:03,439
Speaker 3: game and said, name the six unbeatens, and you know

1918
01:48:03,479 --> 01:48:05,920
Speaker 3: the age old saying, if you have to name seven dwarfs,

1919
01:48:05,960 --> 01:48:09,439
Speaker 3: you can only come up with six. If I said

1920
01:48:09,439 --> 01:48:11,920
Speaker 3: to you twenty bucks right now, if you can tell

1921
01:48:11,960 --> 01:48:14,799
Speaker 3: me the final four from a year ago, you'd immediately

1922
01:48:14,800 --> 01:48:16,400
Speaker 3: be able to think of three. It's the way it

1923
01:48:16,439 --> 01:48:18,640
Speaker 3: always works. If you stop the one hundred people at

1924
01:48:18,640 --> 01:48:21,679
Speaker 3: tonight's Ravens Lions game and said, name the six unbeatens

1925
01:48:21,680 --> 01:48:24,560
Speaker 3: in the National Football League, I'll bet you you know,

1926
01:48:24,600 --> 01:48:26,680
Speaker 3: everybody'd be able to come up with five. And the

1927
01:48:26,680 --> 01:48:29,479
Speaker 3: one that people would forget would be either Indianapolis or

1928
01:48:29,520 --> 01:48:31,799
Speaker 3: Tampa because they don't jump out at you like the others,

1929
01:48:31,920 --> 01:48:36,600
Speaker 3: and they weren't necessarily expected to be there. But the

1930
01:48:36,640 --> 01:48:41,519
Speaker 3: Colts are. They are sound because they play kind of

1931
01:48:41,520 --> 01:48:46,000
Speaker 3: within themselves. That's not selling them short, but they simply

1932
01:48:46,080 --> 01:48:49,000
Speaker 3: do not make mistakes. So much of the NFL is

1933
01:48:49,040 --> 01:48:55,000
Speaker 3: about not putting your opponent in a position to take

1934
01:48:55,040 --> 01:48:57,960
Speaker 3: advantage of the given and they're not doing that. I mean,

1935
01:48:58,000 --> 01:49:02,880
Speaker 3: they literally are not giving teams in any possibility, any

1936
01:49:03,040 --> 01:49:09,400
Speaker 3: chance to take advantage of an error. You know, I

1937
01:49:09,439 --> 01:49:13,360
Speaker 3: remember talking to somebody basketball wise that have been around

1938
01:49:13,400 --> 01:49:15,440
Speaker 3: the game for a long time from a coaching standpoint,

1939
01:49:15,760 --> 01:49:18,400
Speaker 3: and they said, you know, so often people think that

1940
01:49:18,560 --> 01:49:22,120
Speaker 3: defensively in the NBA, that your job is to stop

1941
01:49:22,160 --> 01:49:24,880
Speaker 3: the other team from scoring. It's not that. It's to

1942
01:49:26,040 --> 01:49:28,439
Speaker 3: make it so that the other team has to take

1943
01:49:28,479 --> 01:49:33,519
Speaker 3: the hardest shot and give them the least opportunity to score,

1944
01:49:33,760 --> 01:49:36,400
Speaker 3: not to deny them scoring, but to simply make it

1945
01:49:36,479 --> 01:49:40,000
Speaker 3: harder for them to score. And in the NFL, you

1946
01:49:40,080 --> 01:49:42,880
Speaker 3: simply want to You're not going to shut teams out.

1947
01:49:43,120 --> 01:49:46,600
Speaker 3: You're not gonna I mean, unless it's Miami. You just

1948
01:49:46,640 --> 01:49:48,920
Speaker 3: simply want to make it so that you're not giving

1949
01:49:48,960 --> 01:49:52,559
Speaker 3: them any better advantage than they may already have. And

1950
01:49:52,600 --> 01:49:54,400
Speaker 3: the Colts haven't done that so far. They have been

1951
01:49:54,720 --> 01:49:59,719
Speaker 3: careful with the ball, they've been efficient, they have seldomly punted,

1952
01:50:00,920 --> 01:50:02,759
Speaker 3: and they're three and zero and one of the guys

1953
01:50:02,760 --> 01:50:05,280
Speaker 3: that got two sacks for him yesterday, Taekwon Lewis is

1954
01:50:05,280 --> 01:50:07,960
Speaker 3: set to join us and set to do so momentarily.

1955
01:50:10,280 --> 01:50:14,320
Speaker 3: You know, I would not put an NFL player on

1956
01:50:14,360 --> 01:50:17,280
Speaker 3: the spot to ask them to name the other five

1957
01:50:17,479 --> 01:50:22,400
Speaker 3: teams aside from theirs that's unbeaten in the NFL. I

1958
01:50:22,439 --> 01:50:26,599
Speaker 3: would simply bring them on by saying congratulations on a

1959
01:50:26,640 --> 01:50:30,200
Speaker 3: great start of being three and zero and being one

1960
01:50:30,240 --> 01:50:32,760
Speaker 3: of the six unbeatens in the National Football League, and

1961
01:50:32,800 --> 01:50:34,559
Speaker 3: for having two sacks and doing it by the way,

1962
01:50:34,600 --> 01:50:38,920
Speaker 3: Bruce Pearl. It totally spaced this. Bruce Pearl rumored to

1963
01:50:38,960 --> 01:50:42,840
Speaker 3: be going into politics, the reason for his departure from

1964
01:50:42,880 --> 01:50:48,720
Speaker 3: college basketball, pursuing a seat within the house, Tommy Tubberville

1965
01:50:48,920 --> 01:50:50,880
Speaker 3: leaving a seat, and that leaves one open in the

1966
01:50:50,880 --> 01:50:53,559
Speaker 3: state of Alabama. But I only mention that because we

1967
01:50:53,600 --> 01:50:55,519
Speaker 3: had just mentioned a few minutes ago that Bruce Pearl

1968
01:50:55,600 --> 01:50:58,719
Speaker 3: done at Auburn as the college basketball coach, but joining

1969
01:50:58,760 --> 01:51:01,320
Speaker 3: us now on the game line. He had two sacks

1970
01:51:01,400 --> 01:51:06,080
Speaker 3: yesterday and of course leading that defense that made things

1971
01:51:06,120 --> 01:51:09,320
Speaker 3: difficult for Tennessee. Yesterday, Taekwon Lewis joining us on the show. Taikwan,

1972
01:51:09,360 --> 01:51:09,800
Speaker 3: how are you?

1973
01:51:11,520 --> 01:51:14,280
Speaker 5: How are you doing? I'm good. Just I'm doing just fine.

1974
01:51:14,560 --> 01:51:17,080
Speaker 5: I'm ready get this week started. You know, I was

1975
01:51:17,120 --> 01:51:20,880
Speaker 5: excited about last week and yesterday's performance, but ready to

1976
01:51:20,880 --> 01:51:21,759
Speaker 5: get going this week.

1977
01:51:21,920 --> 01:51:24,120
Speaker 3: You know, how does it, to be honest with you,

1978
01:51:24,360 --> 01:51:28,720
Speaker 3: I'm curious of this in the NFL calendar, so to speak, Uh, mondays,

1979
01:51:28,720 --> 01:51:31,200
Speaker 3: I would assume are primarily for you guys to maybe

1980
01:51:31,200 --> 01:51:34,080
Speaker 3: get treatment and kind of look over things and then

1981
01:51:34,720 --> 01:51:37,080
Speaker 3: turn the page. Like, at what point in the course

1982
01:51:37,120 --> 01:51:40,640
Speaker 3: of a week do you put the previous game completely

1983
01:51:40,720 --> 01:51:43,639
Speaker 3: behind you and then start looking towards the next opponent.

1984
01:51:43,680 --> 01:51:46,400
Speaker 3: What timeline does that take place?

1985
01:51:47,960 --> 01:51:53,679
Speaker 5: Uh? I say, usually right after we finished the film,

1986
01:51:54,000 --> 01:51:57,280
Speaker 5: you know, we watch it, go over to corrections and

1987
01:51:57,880 --> 01:52:01,599
Speaker 5: the mishappens in the NV you know, we're pretty much

1988
01:52:01,680 --> 01:52:03,439
Speaker 5: on to the next thing, and you just start breaking

1989
01:52:03,479 --> 01:52:07,880
Speaker 5: down tape, you know, just breaking down players plays, concepts

1990
01:52:07,880 --> 01:52:10,960
Speaker 5: and stuff, and you know, it's it's like routine habit

1991
01:52:11,080 --> 01:52:11,559
Speaker 5: to us.

1992
01:52:11,680 --> 01:52:15,280
Speaker 3: And the film session is when like Monday morning, Monday afternoon, Tuesday.

1993
01:52:15,280 --> 01:52:16,840
Speaker 3: What day do you guys go over what's that?

1994
01:52:17,040 --> 01:52:22,000
Speaker 5: Monday? Mondays, Monday on Monday morning, Monday morning, Monday, Monday afternoon.

1995
01:52:22,560 --> 01:52:26,320
Speaker 5: Then after that, uh, you know, Tuesdays are usually our

1996
01:52:26,320 --> 01:52:28,960
Speaker 5: all day, but you know a lot of guys still

1997
01:52:28,960 --> 01:52:31,679
Speaker 5: come to work and we just just grind it out.

1998
01:52:31,720 --> 01:52:34,439
Speaker 3: Man, you know what's funny to me? Taekwon Lewis our

1999
01:52:34,479 --> 01:52:37,479
Speaker 3: guest from the Colts. I'm curious when you're watch when

2000
01:52:37,520 --> 01:52:41,040
Speaker 3: you watch film, for example, how often do you see

2001
01:52:41,040 --> 01:52:45,280
Speaker 3: stuff that you don't recall during the course of the game,

2002
01:52:45,479 --> 01:52:47,839
Speaker 3: or that you that you see it when you're watching

2003
01:52:47,840 --> 01:52:50,200
Speaker 3: it from up high where you're like, man, that does

2004
01:52:50,640 --> 01:52:52,720
Speaker 3: now I do see what we did wrong? Or you

2005
01:52:52,760 --> 01:52:54,920
Speaker 3: know what I mean? Or usually more often than not,

2006
01:52:55,080 --> 01:52:58,280
Speaker 3: does it pretty much spell out what you knew going

2007
01:52:58,320 --> 01:52:58,720
Speaker 3: into it?

2008
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Speaker 5: Yeah, majority of the time, you know. I think the

2009
01:53:03,880 --> 01:53:08,519
Speaker 5: thing with film is we usually have three views of

2010
01:53:08,560 --> 01:53:13,560
Speaker 5: it that the television watcher can't see. So when we

2011
01:53:13,680 --> 01:53:17,599
Speaker 5: watch safe iss usually like from multiple views. He got

2012
01:53:17,680 --> 01:53:20,000
Speaker 5: up high, he got right behind the D line, and

2013
01:53:20,040 --> 01:53:22,439
Speaker 5: then you got the other side with the offenses. So

2014
01:53:23,040 --> 01:53:25,760
Speaker 5: you know, it gives the coaches and the players a

2015
01:53:25,840 --> 01:53:29,360
Speaker 5: little bit more perspective from each different position.

2016
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Speaker 3: So yesterday, let's talk about this in terms of Tennessee.

2017
01:53:34,760 --> 01:53:36,720
Speaker 3: You know, you know going into it that you were

2018
01:53:36,760 --> 01:53:39,320
Speaker 3: going against a quarterback who is new to the league,

2019
01:53:39,320 --> 01:53:43,400
Speaker 3: but at the same time pretty darn athletic, right, you

2020
01:53:43,439 --> 01:53:46,599
Speaker 3: know what sort of things just from a matchup or

2021
01:53:47,000 --> 01:53:50,320
Speaker 3: maybe it's low and Umo's defense that you like, what

2022
01:53:50,400 --> 01:53:53,960
Speaker 3: sort of things did facilitate or enable you to get

2023
01:53:54,040 --> 01:53:55,280
Speaker 3: multiple sacks yesterday?

2024
01:53:56,840 --> 01:54:01,120
Speaker 5: All right? Really it was just knowing and the you know,

2025
01:54:01,200 --> 01:54:05,000
Speaker 5: the guys back, having our backs and coverage and you

2026
01:54:05,040 --> 01:54:08,400
Speaker 5: know guys next to me, you know, just honoring our

2027
01:54:08,479 --> 01:54:10,920
Speaker 5: rush lanes. You know, that's the main thing. The key

2028
01:54:10,960 --> 01:54:13,120
Speaker 5: to sacks is just rust lanes and one of your

2029
01:54:13,160 --> 01:54:15,920
Speaker 5: one on ones. Uh. I think it's a lot of

2030
01:54:15,960 --> 01:54:19,160
Speaker 5: discipline amongst us as a group, you know, cover rush,

2031
01:54:19,240 --> 01:54:21,880
Speaker 5: Russian cover, it all goes together. So you know, I

2032
01:54:21,960 --> 01:54:25,240
Speaker 5: pull out everybody that that that helps us get sacks,

2033
01:54:25,240 --> 01:54:28,120
Speaker 5: and you know we help out when people get intercesss.

2034
01:54:28,400 --> 01:54:32,440
Speaker 3: What was the uh, I'll say learning curve. I mean

2035
01:54:32,520 --> 01:54:35,280
Speaker 3: anytime that you have a new boss, a new coordinator,

2036
01:54:35,320 --> 01:54:37,680
Speaker 3: it's different, right, So so when you come in with

2037
01:54:37,720 --> 01:54:39,720
Speaker 3: Luvanna room. But what you know what was different this year?

2038
01:54:41,600 --> 01:54:45,240
Speaker 5: Well, I would say it's a it's a it's a

2039
01:54:45,280 --> 01:54:50,680
Speaker 5: lot more schematics, I would say, you know, Lou Lou

2040
01:54:50,880 --> 01:54:55,000
Speaker 5: is definitely like a mad scientist. You know, he has

2041
01:54:55,080 --> 01:54:58,600
Speaker 5: a lot of like different ways he could like set

2042
01:54:58,680 --> 01:55:02,480
Speaker 5: things up. And I mean it took a lot of

2043
01:55:02,560 --> 01:55:06,000
Speaker 5: learning for us because you know, we used to playing

2044
01:55:06,480 --> 01:55:09,760
Speaker 5: you know, a four down at tax style defense and

2045
01:55:09,960 --> 01:55:13,480
Speaker 5: you know this one it's a lot more like you know,

2046
01:55:14,200 --> 01:55:19,400
Speaker 5: discipline and more gap integrity, I should say, versus like

2047
01:55:20,160 --> 01:55:22,240
Speaker 5: you know, any other system that I've been in, Like

2048
01:55:22,440 --> 01:55:27,440
Speaker 5: it's always gap integrity, but it's more disrupt the previous

2049
01:55:27,520 --> 01:55:28,400
Speaker 5: years we've played.

2050
01:55:28,680 --> 01:55:30,880
Speaker 3: What about for you guys as a team, Taekwan lewis

2051
01:55:30,920 --> 01:55:33,720
Speaker 3: our guest. You know you're three and zero. There were

2052
01:55:33,720 --> 01:55:36,200
Speaker 3: a lot of question marks coming into the year, and

2053
01:55:36,240 --> 01:55:38,320
Speaker 3: I know it's the other side of the ball, but

2054
01:55:38,360 --> 01:55:41,120
Speaker 3: I wanted you to just expand, taekwe for our listeners

2055
01:55:41,120 --> 01:55:45,360
Speaker 3: and for colts fans about you know, Daniel Jones in general,

2056
01:55:45,440 --> 01:55:47,440
Speaker 3: Like he just seems to be kind of a quiet

2057
01:55:47,520 --> 01:55:49,120
Speaker 3: leader type. I know it's a different side of the ball,

2058
01:55:49,200 --> 01:55:51,760
Speaker 3: different room, but it seems to be kind of setting

2059
01:55:51,760 --> 01:55:55,320
Speaker 3: a tone for you guys in general. Is that an

2060
01:55:55,360 --> 01:55:58,400
Speaker 3: accurate statement in terms of the kind of leadership Jones

2061
01:55:58,520 --> 01:55:59,800
Speaker 3: is for the leader he.

2062
01:55:59,800 --> 01:56:05,320
Speaker 5: Is, uh, I would definitely say that he is, uh

2063
01:56:06,040 --> 01:56:09,720
Speaker 5: the guy who brings everyone together. Uh, you know, he

2064
01:56:10,040 --> 01:56:14,480
Speaker 5: he knows everybody. Uh, he hangs out with everybody. You know,

2065
01:56:14,600 --> 01:56:18,480
Speaker 5: he's a real locker room guy. He's a real great guy. Man.

2066
01:56:18,520 --> 01:56:22,000
Speaker 5: He's just a cool dude. You know, he's he's one

2067
01:56:22,040 --> 01:56:23,640
Speaker 5: of the guys. He's like one of the guys. And

2068
01:56:23,760 --> 01:56:28,440
Speaker 5: I mean he never like leads anyone out, you know,

2069
01:56:28,560 --> 01:56:31,200
Speaker 5: he I respect him for that. I think he does

2070
01:56:31,200 --> 01:56:33,720
Speaker 5: a great job with that. I think that, you know,

2071
01:56:34,240 --> 01:56:37,200
Speaker 5: the camaraderie in the locker room right now is you know,

2072
01:56:37,240 --> 01:56:40,800
Speaker 5: it's high. I mean we're winning, and you know the

2073
01:56:41,280 --> 01:56:44,320
Speaker 5: brotherhood is getting stronger as we win. You know, throughout

2074
01:56:44,320 --> 01:56:46,440
Speaker 5: the highs and lows of training camp all of that.

2075
01:56:46,840 --> 01:56:50,200
Speaker 5: You know, everybody start together through everything that was going on,

2076
01:56:50,520 --> 01:56:53,360
Speaker 5: you know, so you know, we just blocked out the

2077
01:56:53,360 --> 01:56:55,320
Speaker 5: noise and we just go to work every single day.

2078
01:56:55,400 --> 01:56:57,560
Speaker 3: Were you guys surprised that? I mean that was such

2079
01:56:57,560 --> 01:56:59,840
Speaker 3: a big storyline that the quarterback battle, right were you

2080
01:57:00,080 --> 01:57:00,960
Speaker 3: prize it was Jones?

2081
01:57:03,560 --> 01:57:07,720
Speaker 5: I mean I think that the way that the coaches

2082
01:57:07,760 --> 01:57:11,000
Speaker 5: went about it, you know, it was just we knew

2083
01:57:11,040 --> 01:57:13,640
Speaker 5: what we had to do as a defense, and we

2084
01:57:13,720 --> 01:57:15,880
Speaker 5: knew we had to do as a team in order

2085
01:57:15,960 --> 01:57:19,840
Speaker 5: to win. So I wouldn't say a surprise, but we

2086
01:57:20,000 --> 01:57:24,760
Speaker 5: just knew that whatever the decision was, we were going

2087
01:57:24,800 --> 01:57:27,000
Speaker 5: to rally behind it and we were just gonna come

2088
01:57:27,040 --> 01:57:29,320
Speaker 5: together as a team and just win win games.

2089
01:57:29,520 --> 01:57:31,800
Speaker 3: You know, one of the things that taekwon Lewis is

2090
01:57:31,840 --> 01:57:34,840
Speaker 3: our guest that to me, I'll give it and I've

2091
01:57:34,880 --> 01:57:37,160
Speaker 3: mentioned this I'll give Chris Ballard a lot of credit for,

2092
01:57:37,240 --> 01:57:40,240
Speaker 3: and that is that it seems like you guys have

2093
01:57:40,360 --> 01:57:42,720
Speaker 3: more depth than you have on other teams that you've

2094
01:57:42,720 --> 01:57:45,560
Speaker 3: been a part of with the Colts in certain areas

2095
01:57:45,600 --> 01:57:48,280
Speaker 3: have been tested, like, for example, already behind you in

2096
01:57:48,320 --> 01:57:51,320
Speaker 3: the defensive backfield, you know, guys have gone down and

2097
01:57:51,400 --> 01:57:55,440
Speaker 3: others have been able to step in and play well.

2098
01:57:55,480 --> 01:57:58,959
Speaker 3: You know they've got some depth there. But I'm curious

2099
01:57:59,160 --> 01:58:03,040
Speaker 3: for you or just as a unit in general, do

2100
01:58:03,080 --> 01:58:06,280
Speaker 3: you do you kind of have to learn tendencies of

2101
01:58:06,320 --> 01:58:08,680
Speaker 3: different guys when you're not used to being on the

2102
01:58:08,720 --> 01:58:11,680
Speaker 3: field with them, or is scheme scheme and the faces

2103
01:58:11,680 --> 01:58:12,480
Speaker 3: don't matter.

2104
01:58:14,080 --> 01:58:18,839
Speaker 5: Us scheme and I think like faces do matter. But however,

2105
01:58:19,960 --> 01:58:22,160
Speaker 5: you know you want to play to the level of

2106
01:58:22,240 --> 01:58:25,520
Speaker 5: your preparation, and you know, I think that all of

2107
01:58:25,560 --> 01:58:28,440
Speaker 5: that plays apart into it, you know, especially as like

2108
01:58:29,280 --> 01:58:32,000
Speaker 5: as a defense. You know, we're not going out there

2109
01:58:32,040 --> 01:58:34,320
Speaker 5: and asking you to be someone that you're not. We

2110
01:58:34,480 --> 01:58:36,320
Speaker 5: just asked that you be the best version of you

2111
01:58:36,760 --> 01:58:38,400
Speaker 5: when you go out there. Make sure you do your

2112
01:58:38,480 --> 01:58:40,840
Speaker 5: job because at the end of the day, it's all

2113
01:58:40,880 --> 01:58:42,960
Speaker 5: about the team. You know. If you do your job,

2114
01:58:43,040 --> 01:58:45,760
Speaker 5: you're disciplined, and you play to the level of your

2115
01:58:45,760 --> 01:58:48,440
Speaker 5: preparation ability. You know, the rest of you take care

2116
01:58:48,440 --> 01:58:48,960
Speaker 5: of yourself.

2117
01:58:49,200 --> 01:58:51,320
Speaker 3: Okay, now we do this each time I have somebody

2118
01:58:51,320 --> 01:58:52,960
Speaker 3: on Taekwon. I'm going to do it with you real quick.

2119
01:58:52,960 --> 01:58:53,120
Speaker 5: Here.

2120
01:58:53,120 --> 01:58:56,440
Speaker 3: Okay, you are from Tarboro, North Carolina. Did I say that? Correct?

2121
01:58:57,200 --> 01:58:57,640
Speaker 5: That's there?

2122
01:58:57,760 --> 01:59:00,240
Speaker 3: Okay? And I don't know is that where is that?

2123
01:59:00,320 --> 01:59:02,560
Speaker 3: Is that near Charlotte or what part of north to

2124
01:59:02,600 --> 01:59:04,640
Speaker 3: the state of North Carolina is No, I'm.

2125
01:59:04,520 --> 01:59:08,360
Speaker 5: Actually from eastern North Carolina. I think I like to

2126
01:59:08,400 --> 01:59:11,280
Speaker 5: call it the best part of the state where you

2127
01:59:11,360 --> 01:59:12,240
Speaker 5: get barbecue.

2128
01:59:12,440 --> 01:59:15,440
Speaker 3: Okay, fair enough. Now, your high school, by the way,

2129
01:59:15,760 --> 01:59:18,240
Speaker 3: purple and yellow and the Vikings, right, So, did you

2130
01:59:18,240 --> 01:59:20,040
Speaker 3: grow up a fan of the Minnesota Vikings?

2131
01:59:21,120 --> 01:59:23,640
Speaker 5: No, I actually grew up a fan of the Indianapolis Cool.

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Speaker 3: There you go. There's the answer. That's the right answer,

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01:59:26,960 --> 01:59:30,920
Speaker 3: right there. Okay, Yeah, Now, here's the thing. Your high school,

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01:59:30,920 --> 01:59:33,200
Speaker 3: and I'm looking right now, I'm going to give you

2135
01:59:33,200 --> 01:59:36,600
Speaker 3: a little trivia quiz. Here, are you ready? Okay, there

2136
01:59:36,680 --> 01:59:39,879
Speaker 3: are a couple of players that are listed as prominent

2137
01:59:39,920 --> 01:59:42,840
Speaker 3: alumni of your high school. Actually, it's pretty impressive the

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01:59:42,880 --> 01:59:46,160
Speaker 3: list of alumni from your high school. One of them

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01:59:47,080 --> 01:59:50,280
Speaker 3: and this one, like, I'm way older than you are, Okay,

2140
01:59:50,280 --> 01:59:52,760
Speaker 3: but I'm curious how much this guy was talked about

2141
01:59:52,760 --> 01:59:54,840
Speaker 3: at your schooler when you were a kid. One of

2142
01:59:54,880 --> 01:59:59,280
Speaker 3: these guys was a prominent USFL player and also NFL

2143
01:59:59,320 --> 02:00:02,840
Speaker 3: player that had a really good career as a running back,

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Speaker 3: and he had played at the University of North Carolina

2145
02:00:04,640 --> 02:00:07,040
Speaker 3: if I'm not mistaken in the early eighties and was

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02:00:07,040 --> 02:00:09,320
Speaker 3: probably the first breakout. Do you know who I'm talking about?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, number forty four, Calvin Bryan.

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Speaker 3: Kelvin Bryant is correct, yes, all right? Now, one Super

2149
02:00:16,600 --> 02:00:18,640
Speaker 3: Bowl he did, as a matter of fact, one of

2150
02:00:18,680 --> 02:00:22,480
Speaker 3: what the Washington then Redskins. Okay, now, another guy I

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02:00:22,520 --> 02:00:25,160
Speaker 3: think that probably would have been a teammate of yours.

2152
02:00:25,280 --> 02:00:27,560
Speaker 3: Did are you the same class as or how close

2153
02:00:27,600 --> 02:00:28,600
Speaker 3: were you to Todd Gurley?

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02:00:30,560 --> 02:00:33,800
Speaker 5: Uh? He is one year old, one one class older.

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02:00:33,800 --> 02:00:36,680
Speaker 3: I mean, okay, so but you guys, I'm just assuming

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02:00:37,440 --> 02:00:39,320
Speaker 3: that you guys had to have been really good in

2157
02:00:39,400 --> 02:00:40,480
Speaker 3: high school? Were you really good?

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02:00:41,960 --> 02:00:42,160
Speaker 5: Yeah?

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02:00:44,520 --> 02:00:44,600
Speaker 12: Like?

2160
02:00:44,680 --> 02:00:48,880
Speaker 3: How good? Okay? It says here? Nine football state championships, sir,

2161
02:00:48,920 --> 02:00:52,960
Speaker 3: Tarboro was one of them on a team you were on?

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Speaker 5: Uh? Three of them?

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02:00:54,760 --> 02:00:55,440
Speaker 3: Three of them?

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02:00:56,400 --> 02:00:56,680
Speaker 11: Wow?

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02:00:56,760 --> 02:00:58,280
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, fair enough?

2166
02:00:58,760 --> 02:00:59,640
Speaker 5: The four straight?

2167
02:01:00,360 --> 02:01:01,480
Speaker 3: Well who beat you in the fourth?

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02:01:03,480 --> 02:01:08,440
Speaker 5: Uh? I think uh? East Lincoln?

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02:01:08,720 --> 02:01:12,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, cheaters right, East Lincoln cheaters. Corrupt program.

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Speaker 5: Six? I think he has six fungvels in one day.

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02:01:17,040 --> 02:01:21,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. That that won't do it for you, that's for certain. Okay. Then, lastly,

2172
02:01:21,200 --> 02:01:24,800
Speaker 3: so your Buckeyes is Ohio State Ohio State?

2173
02:01:24,840 --> 02:01:25,080
Speaker 5: Right now?

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Speaker 3: How much do you still follow? I know, you guys

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02:01:27,680 --> 02:01:29,920
Speaker 3: in the locker room, you know, will joke around, kind

2176
02:01:29,920 --> 02:01:31,720
Speaker 3: of poke fun at each other, that kind of thing.

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Speaker 3: How much do you realistically get a chance to watch

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Speaker 3: what Ohio State's doing?

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Speaker 5: I try to watch every Saturday if they try to

2180
02:01:39,520 --> 02:01:39,920
Speaker 5: catch it.

2181
02:01:40,440 --> 02:01:43,720
Speaker 3: And they they are or are not the best team

2182
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Speaker 3: in college football not named Come on, what about Hey?

2183
02:01:48,960 --> 02:01:51,160
Speaker 3: How about Indiana? Though? Man, come on, give a who's

2184
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Speaker 3: your some love here? It's Ohio, Ohio against the world?

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02:01:57,400 --> 02:01:57,640
Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 3: Okay? Last Taekwan. You know, I know you guys probably

2187
02:02:02,720 --> 02:02:05,360
Speaker 3: have not gotten a chance to get into it just yet.

2188
02:02:05,960 --> 02:02:09,040
Speaker 3: But one thing we know about the Rams that is

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Speaker 3: the next on the schedule for you. Not only a

2190
02:02:10,760 --> 02:02:13,360
Speaker 3: great stadium, great environment, but that is a pretty high

2191
02:02:13,400 --> 02:02:16,640
Speaker 3: flying offense. Your thoughts so far, at least from the

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Speaker 3: outside about Matt Stafford in that.

2193
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Speaker 5: Group, well, we know they have some dynamic playmakers and

2194
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Speaker 5: they're running back and Karen Williams, Pooka Nicole. I mean,

2195
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Speaker 5: obviously he's he's he had a really great year last year.

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Speaker 5: Davontae Adams, he's an established vet. They have Tyler Higby,

2197
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Speaker 5: you know, he's been around, and you know Grey Olon.

2198
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Speaker 5: You know, they have a great head coach and McVay

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Speaker 5: who all. You know, I think all of those guys,

2200
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Speaker 5: you know, I played against them before, so you know,

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Speaker 5: it's it's definitely quite fascinating to watch what they do

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Speaker 5: on offense. But you know, we line up and play

2203
02:02:56,760 --> 02:03:01,040
Speaker 5: football anywhere anytime, so you know, just guy, get ready

2204
02:03:01,040 --> 02:03:03,000
Speaker 5: to play the game and play the right way and

2205
02:03:03,200 --> 02:03:04,760
Speaker 5: go out do our jobs and get a win.

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Speaker 3: Speaking to head coaches, you've obviously been here, you know

2207
02:03:07,880 --> 02:03:11,120
Speaker 3: for the totality of Shane Stikeen's time, it seems from

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02:03:11,120 --> 02:03:14,960
Speaker 3: the outside like Shane Stikeen has really kind of grown

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Speaker 3: into that role. How if in any way have you

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Speaker 3: seen him grow or change from when he first became

2211
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Speaker 3: a head coach to now.

2212
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Speaker 5: Oh, Shane, Shane does a great job. You know, he

2213
02:03:27,280 --> 02:03:29,720
Speaker 5: does a great job navigating us in the locker room

2214
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Speaker 5: and putting us in the right position to win, especially

2215
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Speaker 5: with like building a bond with with with the guys. Uh,

2216
02:03:39,040 --> 02:03:40,880
Speaker 5: you know, he this year we did a lot of

2217
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Speaker 5: like off season things where we came together a little more,

2218
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Speaker 5: you know, we got you know, I mean, you guys

2219
02:03:47,120 --> 02:03:49,560
Speaker 5: probably seeing it on social media or something, but like,

2220
02:03:49,920 --> 02:03:52,640
Speaker 5: you know, we do bowling, we go paintballing, just a

2221
02:03:52,680 --> 02:03:56,600
Speaker 5: lot of stuff Shane Shane like implements with us in

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02:03:56,720 --> 02:03:59,000
Speaker 5: order to help us grow as a team. And you know,

2223
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Speaker 5: just bet because I mean, like he says, when we're

2224
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Speaker 5: connected with I mean we're you know, when connected would

2225
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Speaker 5: committed and you know, it just builds us together, so

2226
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Speaker 5: and I mean that's that's the biggest thing I've seen

2227
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Speaker 5: from him.

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Speaker 3: Are you a good bowler?

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Speaker 5: I mean I'm decent, you know, Okay, I go hang out.

2230
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Speaker 3: I'm good at bowling for like one game and then

2231
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Speaker 3: after that, like you, you would not have this problem.

2232
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Speaker 3: But for me eventually, like I'm like, man, my arm

2233
02:04:28,480 --> 02:04:30,879
Speaker 3: is sore from bowling too much, which is weird, I realized.

2234
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Speaker 5: But you know what I mean, Uh, yeah, it does.

2235
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Speaker 5: It does get like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Taekwon Lewis again. Colts Rams coming up on Sunday.

2237
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Speaker 3: But for right now, the big news is one of

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Speaker 3: six that are unbeaten in the National Football League and

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Speaker 3: two sacks yesterday against the Tennessee Titans, two of the

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Speaker 3: four where the Colts came from Taekwon Lewis. Taekwon, we

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Speaker 3: appreciate it, man, appreciate the time and look forward to

2242
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Speaker 3: watching you over the course of the year. And then also,

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Speaker 3: don't be totally upset if in fact there is some

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Speaker 3: sort of an upset. And I think in the end

2245
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Speaker 3: of place, does any other I have Ohio state this year, Eddie,

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02:05:01,560 --> 02:05:04,160
Speaker 3: Maybe they don't. Might be a break for your buckskis. Yeah,

2247
02:05:04,160 --> 02:05:06,280
Speaker 3: it's a break for the Buckeyes scheduling.

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02:05:05,800 --> 02:05:08,520
Speaker 5: Breaks beat them by a million two.

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Speaker 3: All right, Taekwan, appreciate it man, all right, appreciate you.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, guys.

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Speaker 3: Taekwan Lewis from the Indianapolis Colts. We'll come back, John,

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Speaker 3: make sure that your system is up and running. John,

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Speaker 3: big one lined up for you. Obviously a huge weekend

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Speaker 3: in sports.

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Speaker 13: Ew larsh, Hey, I want to ask you, because I

2268
02:06:00,600 --> 02:06:03,840
Speaker 13: heard this a little bit earlier you said it, do

2269
02:06:03,880 --> 02:06:06,680
Speaker 13: you really think that we owe or you owe the

2270
02:06:06,720 --> 02:06:09,160
Speaker 13: Colts and apology for the way they've started out.

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02:06:09,200 --> 02:06:11,880
Speaker 3: No, I think I think the person that said that

2272
02:06:12,080 --> 02:06:14,680
Speaker 3: was talking about Daniel Jones, like we owe like.

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Speaker 13: But still no, you know, I mean, I get it,

2274
02:06:17,440 --> 02:06:19,000
Speaker 13: but do you think that's true.

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Speaker 3: I think in the case of Jones, I think the

2276
02:06:23,600 --> 02:06:26,840
Speaker 3: apology owed would be like from say the New York

2277
02:06:26,920 --> 02:06:30,520
Speaker 3: fan base whatever else that just assumed that he couldn't play.

2278
02:06:30,560 --> 02:06:33,120
Speaker 3: And maybe now we're realizing the situation was not very

2279
02:06:33,160 --> 02:06:35,520
Speaker 3: good for the Colts themselves. I mean, it's three games,

2280
02:06:35,520 --> 02:06:39,240
Speaker 3: you gotta go along. I do think that they are decent,

2281
02:06:39,520 --> 02:06:41,480
Speaker 3: but at the same time, they're beyond decent. I think

2282
02:06:41,480 --> 02:06:43,360
Speaker 3: they're good. I mean, I think they are a good team,

2283
02:06:43,440 --> 02:06:49,280
Speaker 3: but you gotta do it for I think probably you know,

2284
02:06:49,640 --> 02:06:51,680
Speaker 3: it's funny John I said at the beginning of the year,

2285
02:06:51,720 --> 02:06:55,760
Speaker 3: there's always one team that we say, like around Halloween,

2286
02:06:55,840 --> 02:06:58,560
Speaker 3: you go, are they good? Like they might actually be good.

2287
02:06:58,560 --> 02:07:01,080
Speaker 3: I didn't think they would be, And the Bucks are

2288
02:07:01,080 --> 02:07:02,800
Speaker 3: one of them that could be that team, But I

2289
02:07:02,800 --> 02:07:04,760
Speaker 3: think the Colts could be one. I think maybe we

2290
02:07:05,440 --> 02:07:07,320
Speaker 3: sold them short in terms of what they could be

2291
02:07:08,280 --> 02:07:11,600
Speaker 3: or who they are, you know, and they are benefiting

2292
02:07:11,600 --> 02:07:15,120
Speaker 3: from the fact that they they're in a division that

2293
02:07:16,360 --> 02:07:18,960
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, did you think Houston would be

2294
02:07:19,000 --> 02:07:21,280
Speaker 3: zero to three? So no, do we owe them an apology?

2295
02:07:21,320 --> 02:07:24,560
Speaker 3: I don't know if I'd go there, but so far

2296
02:07:24,920 --> 02:07:28,200
Speaker 3: they are clearly erasing some of the doubt that people

2297
02:07:28,200 --> 02:07:28,800
Speaker 3: had about.

2298
02:07:28,640 --> 02:07:33,120
Speaker 13: See I think about my stance wasn't anti Daniel Jones,

2299
02:07:33,120 --> 02:07:35,760
Speaker 13: it was anti everybody. I mean, in January, I just said,

2300
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Speaker 13: you know what, if this is what it's going to be,

2301
02:07:37,280 --> 02:07:39,960
Speaker 13: it's going to continue to be this way, so reset

2302
02:07:40,000 --> 02:07:42,840
Speaker 13: the organization that was my stans and for three games

2303
02:07:42,880 --> 02:07:46,040
Speaker 13: it has been wrong. But my thought was that nobody

2304
02:07:46,080 --> 02:07:50,240
Speaker 13: around heroes anybody. And I'm not trying to be argumentative

2305
02:07:50,280 --> 02:07:53,400
Speaker 13: on this, but there have been a lot of years

2306
02:07:53,520 --> 02:07:56,600
Speaker 13: where fans go down there knowing what they know about

2307
02:07:56,600 --> 02:07:59,880
Speaker 13: this team and making better decisions than this team may

2308
02:08:00,440 --> 02:08:02,440
Speaker 13: within its own player of personnel.

2309
02:08:03,160 --> 02:08:06,800
Speaker 3: So yeah, I just thought, there do this.

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02:08:07,040 --> 02:08:10,240
Speaker 13: I think the fan base around here they're absolutely do

2311
02:08:11,360 --> 02:08:15,440
Speaker 13: this type of play, this type of positivity and results

2312
02:08:15,480 --> 02:08:17,840
Speaker 13: so far, So that's that's kind of how I viewed.

2313
02:08:17,840 --> 02:08:19,640
Speaker 3: I yeah, I would agree with that in the fact

2314
02:08:19,720 --> 02:08:23,400
Speaker 3: that I mean they're owed this, Yes, you paid that

2315
02:08:23,480 --> 02:08:24,480
Speaker 3: kind of money for that long.

2316
02:08:24,840 --> 02:08:28,480
Speaker 13: Yes, advertisers, no return on investment for the better part

2317
02:08:28,480 --> 02:08:31,640
Speaker 13: of eight years. I mean, you're owed this so and

2318
02:08:31,680 --> 02:08:34,480
Speaker 13: it's good, it's fun. It's sure as hell a lot

2319
02:08:34,560 --> 02:08:37,560
Speaker 13: better than what we have witnessed and the alternative being

2320
02:08:37,640 --> 02:08:38,600
Speaker 13: mediocre or less.

2321
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Speaker 2: Do we owe the Pacers to thank you for sparking

2322
02:08:42,840 --> 02:08:43,120
Speaker 2: all this?

2323
02:08:43,960 --> 02:08:45,520
Speaker 3: It does feel that way, Huh.

2324
02:08:45,720 --> 02:08:48,040
Speaker 13: I don't know the Pacers either. Thank you, I will say,

2325
02:08:48,080 --> 02:08:49,720
Speaker 13: I say we own chat in Canada.

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Speaker 12: Thank you.

2327
02:08:50,120 --> 02:08:51,120
Speaker 13: I like him a great deal.

2328
02:08:51,200 --> 02:08:52,480
Speaker 3: Are you talking personally.

2329
02:08:53,160 --> 02:08:56,000
Speaker 2: As sports fans of the city thanking the Pacers were.

2330
02:08:55,840 --> 02:08:58,720
Speaker 3: Bringing that all jump started everything?

2331
02:08:59,640 --> 02:08:59,840
Speaker 12: Man?

2332
02:09:00,040 --> 02:09:03,440
Speaker 13: I love I still love that team. That's my favorite

2333
02:09:03,480 --> 02:09:07,320
Speaker 13: team of all time. Following a game short that stinks,

2334
02:09:07,880 --> 02:09:11,320
Speaker 13: but just a great group. And I wish there was

2335
02:09:11,360 --> 02:09:13,360
Speaker 13: a way, and I guess we can right when the

2336
02:09:13,400 --> 02:09:16,560
Speaker 13: season starts without Halliburton and now Miles is in Milwaukee.

2337
02:09:16,600 --> 02:09:19,600
Speaker 13: But which there's a way that you could grasp one

2338
02:09:19,640 --> 02:09:21,880
Speaker 13: of that. It seems like looking at the review, guys,

2339
02:09:21,920 --> 02:09:25,280
Speaker 13: that that whole Pacer season, the end of season, the

2340
02:09:25,360 --> 02:09:29,120
Speaker 13: postseason went in like a snap, a flash. Oh right,

2341
02:09:29,200 --> 02:09:30,960
Speaker 13: It almost seems like we didn't get a chance to

2342
02:09:30,960 --> 02:09:32,400
Speaker 13: soak it up as much as you wanted.

2343
02:09:32,560 --> 02:09:35,240
Speaker 3: It is crazy to think there. I mean, it gives

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Speaker 3: you that much more appreciation when people talk about, like,

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Speaker 3: you know, oh, the either a ridiculous load management donea

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Speaker 3: and you're like, man, you think about like the Lebron

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Speaker 3: teams or the Golden State teams that were going every

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Speaker 3: single year, and it's like there is no off season.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's just boom boom boom, right.

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Speaker 13: I just look at Tyres Haliburton. He just goes completely

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Speaker 13: balls out until the very end for this fan base

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Speaker 13: and for that accomplishment. And you can't tell me that

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Speaker 13: going out there and planning that there wasn't in the

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Speaker 13: back of his mind, Hey this thing isn't right. But

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Speaker 13: I'm going to do it until I can't do it anymore. Man,

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Speaker 13: And you take it that far, win loser draw. I

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Speaker 13: just have a great deal of admiration for that, and

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Speaker 13: I think the fans around here too too.

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Speaker 2: But it just seemed like.

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Speaker 3: It was over in a step. Jake.

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Speaker 13: I cannot get enough of watching all the highlights of

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Speaker 13: that postseason. Anytime they pop up on social media, I

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Speaker 13: stop and watch, partially because it's Miles in Game seven.

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Speaker 3: When you're living in the middle of it, as we were,

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Speaker 3: as it was happening, you almost like took it for granted, right.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, it was just so full. I mean it was

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Speaker 13: happening so fast, totally. I mean, it all happened so fast.

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Speaker 13: And think about the good fortune. I mentioned this regarding

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Speaker 13: the Colts last week. A lot of the times you

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Speaker 13: see good fortune that rideshotgun when your team shows results,

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Speaker 13: executes and play plays. Well, that's what you saw from

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Speaker 13: the Colts last week. And that's what you saw from

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Speaker 13: the Pacers down the stretch of the season. Good fortune,

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Speaker 13: you know, a lot of good luck up until the

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Speaker 13: hell of Burton injury was riding shotgun with a high.

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Speaker 3: Level of play. What's on the big show coming up here?

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Speaker 13: Noah Eagle get IU on NBC on Saturday Night.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about that.

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Speaker 13: IU went over Illinois with Noah. Stephen Holder of ESPN

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Speaker 13: is going to join us. We'll talk about the Colts

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Speaker 13: as they get set.

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Speaker 3: Maybe two.

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Speaker 2: If anybody's going to southern California.

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Speaker 13: Bullseyes got a party out there right outside of so Far,

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Speaker 13: so we may try to work some people in for

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Speaker 13: that a little bit later times, right.

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Speaker 3: There near lax be awesome weather, it'd be great as well.

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Speaker 3: All Right, John's up next. We'll be back with you

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Speaker 3: at noon tomorrow. I thank you for listening to Quarying Company.