1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's pronounced year the Duke or 2 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: ye'ar the Duke. I don't know. What I do know 3 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: is that Steve Sokka of Dunbarton Tobacco and Trust has 4 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 1: an incredible palette and a very weird sense of humor. 5 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: It's eat, drink smoke. I'm Tony Katz and that is 6 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: America's favorite amateur drinker, Fingers molloy. And this right here 7 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: is the year of the Duke. Now it's du que? 8 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: Is that duke is a duque? I don't know. I 9 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: did reach out to Steve to find out, and I 10 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: didn't get an answer back before we recorded the show, 11 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: So blame him if I'm pronouncing it wrong. This right 12 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: here is a five by forty eight, which means it's 13 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: five inches long. Always makes Fingers laugh. And the ring 14 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: gauge is a forty eight. That's the diameter of the cigar, 15 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: or how thick it is around d again with the laughter. 16 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: That was a good one. Thank those world class. So 17 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: a sixty four ring gauge is a full one inch around. 18 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 1: So this is a short petit cigar. This is the 19 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 1: five inches, the classic robusto size. But I don't think 20 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: he refers to this as a robusto U Sokkah. So, 21 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: I was in Maryland last week and I was a 22 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 1: Capital Cigar Empathesda Capitol Cigar, interesting spot and enjoyed it 23 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: quite a bit. And they carry some Dunbarton and I 24 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: got to have myself a soccer con, which is one 25 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: of my favorite smokes. I dig what Dunbarton does. I 26 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: liked what Steve did when he was at drew A State. 27 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: I consider the Feral Flying Pig amongst my top five cigars. Ever, 28 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: I can have one anywhere, at any time. Fingers the 29 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: Feral Flying Pig. Now I have soccacn soccacn Soca con 30 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: in my head right. 31 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 2: But he changed it because I'm a marketing genius genius 32 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 2: right there. 33 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: And this has got the classic pigtail. What makes this 34 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: interesting is the the the collaboration or or the the 35 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: merging together of these tobaccos. So this is a Habano 36 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: rosatto Ecuadorian rapper. So you would think big spice, big punch, 37 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: big hit, but it is Mexican San Andreas in the binder, 38 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 1: and the filler is Nica Roguin and Pennsylvania broadleaf. That's 39 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: a lot happening. Man, there's a lot of big that's 40 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: a lot of very specific flavor going on. I will 41 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: tell you what this rapper is gorgeous. Touch, touch of 42 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: grit on the wrapper, a little bit of oil on 43 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: the wrapper, and it is a gorgeous, gorgeous. It's actually 44 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: a modeled brown, but not with blacks, just there's a 45 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: little hint of black, like mismattering. It's brown modeled with 46 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: kind of like other browns. It's it's really actually, you 47 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna take that back. It is not modeled. 48 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: It is much more of a leather brown here with 49 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: just a little a little sprinkling of black in it. 50 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: It's a beautiful wrapper. 51 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 2: I would show my my cigar, but I've got a 52 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 2: band aid on my finger for those that are watching 53 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 2: us on YouTube, and nobody needs to get a close 54 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 2: up of that. I can't believe you told anybody on 55 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 2: the finger well, they can see it, they can see it. 56 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: You need to hear about it. 57 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 2: Ea drink smoke on on the YouTube's But I'll tell you. 58 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 1: And I did do a cut on this as opposed 59 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 1: to just pulling the pigtail off. That's where I was. 60 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 2: I just thought go because usually you're like, oh, I 61 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 2: got a pigtail, I'm gonna bite that pigtail right. 62 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: I was already in it with the cutter, and I 63 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: just decided to finish it. I wonder if Steve would 64 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: be okay with using a V cut on this, because 65 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: at five inches, maybe you don't want to lose any 66 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: part of it. But I, with plenty of robustos, I 67 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: do a straight cut. I do think Steve does some 68 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: of the more you nique and worthy cigars that are 69 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: out there. I think that construction wise, everything has always 70 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: been absolutely perfect, but there's a he's He's really good 71 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: at the marketing, especially as he explains things. If you 72 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 1: follow him, let's say, on Facebook, he goes really into 73 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: depth with what's going on with the cigar, what's going 74 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: on with the marketplace, what's going on with tariffs because 75 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: he does so much work in Nicaragua, and you've got 76 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: the tariffs they are there, so the ten percent, so 77 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 1: he really gets into I can't answer this, We're trying 78 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: to price this. We've been eating the cost here, we 79 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: have to pass along the cost there. So he's a 80 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: really interesting resource. While being very very creative. 81 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 2: Can we revisit what you just said about a V 82 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 2: cut on a forty eight ring gauge. 83 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: Is that something you would normally do on Oh? No, okay, 84 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: I don't because at what moment am I having forty 85 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: eight ring gauge robustos? Right? Forty eight five inch cigars? 86 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: That's not where I smell. Oh my god, there's a 87 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: lot happening here. Holy crap, that is That is not 88 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: where I smoke. So I don't know if I would 89 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: do it naturally, not on a on a like a 90 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: fifty or fifty two, it wouldn't even dawn on me. Yeah, 91 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 1: wouldn't don to me. But on this it did dawn 92 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: on me a little bit. So here's my question to you. Wow, 93 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: is I lit this? 94 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 2: I'm about five minutes ahead of you on this cigar, 95 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 2: and I was surprised. 96 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: Initially. 97 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 2: I was expecting more of a pepper or spice hit, 98 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 2: and I didn't get that right away. 99 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 1: It was more of a little bit. 100 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 2: Of wood and then some cocoa, and then boy, all 101 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 2: of a sudden it started. It's starting to creep up 102 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 2: on it. Yeah, what what you're saying? 103 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: Wow? Not there? 104 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 3: Uh? 105 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: Wow? Was the richness? It wasn't a spice. Wow, it 106 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: was really rich off the front. There is a cedar 107 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: thing that's happening. Yep, for sure, but really really cheek 108 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: to cheek full in the in the smoke, and you 109 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 1: don't often get that. I happen to love that. I 110 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: look for that right now. I feel it on the tongue. 111 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: I feel just a little bit of a coating on 112 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: the tongue. And also it's gonna sound stupid. It's gonna 113 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 1: sound really dumb. There is there is like a what 114 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: is that. There's a burnt, there's a char, there's a 115 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: smoky a little bit of smoky. So it started cedar 116 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: got into this fullness and now there's a little bit 117 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: of a like a char smoky thing going on. And 118 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: so far, I mean, I'm just two puffs in. 119 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 2: So would you say that that mouthfeel you're talking about, 120 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 2: would you describe that as chewy? No? 121 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: I wouldn't, But I mean if you do, you do, No, 122 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 1: I don't get a chewy feel like it. Like sometimes 123 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: you'll like I'll talk about something being like a nutty cream, right, 124 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: like when you when you're chewing on an almonds. Let's 125 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: say you got some almonds there and you're chewing on them, 126 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: and it gets a little like pasty in your like that. 127 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: I happen to love that flavor. I think, ah adore 128 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: that flavor. No, not what I'm getting here. I do 129 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: not get a chewiness from this. But this is there 130 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: is so much moving here. The wood is is almost 131 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: like a ribbon in between the richness and and that 132 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: what's the what's the right where the char the That's 133 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: where I'm at with the smoke and you as as 134 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: you are a little bit more into it, and at 135 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: five inch by forty eight, it's gonna smoke quick. Slow down, everybody. 136 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 2: So like I said, when I first lit this, it 137 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 2: was much more of a wood seed and I was 138 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 2: getting a little bit of coco right off the bat. 139 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 2: As I'm getting into this, there is a pepper starting 140 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 2: to pick up for me. It's what's two things that 141 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 2: I love about the scar right away? First of all, 142 00:07:55,400 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 2: and I know it's nitpicky, but again, the cigar band nice, beautiful, simple. 143 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 2: I know it's ridiculous, but it's becoming a real pet 144 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 2: peeve of mine I see this. And then second of all, 145 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 2: even though it's you know, five by forty eight, hand 146 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 2: feels still pretty good on. 147 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: This isn't it? Yeah? It does feel good by the way, 148 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: I just tried to retrohel still couldn't do it. Still, 149 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: I just sat there and tried to bring it through 150 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: the sinuses. Dang it can't do it. Uh yeah, And 151 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: the band is beautiful in the red and the gold. 152 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: Really that you know to give it that Asian flair 153 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: because it's the year of the Duque? Or is a 154 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: duke named after Chris Duke? Or is a duque who 155 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: works there at a dunbart and tobacco and trust? Is 156 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: this in the human or We will get into that 157 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: coming up. Also some fantastic bourbon to try. Oh no way, 158 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: I'm sorry Tennessee whiskey fingers below. Are you looking for 159 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: a freebie? Who is it in this economy? That was? 160 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: It was well done, Thank you, well delivered. Te trick 161 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: smellcome Tony Katz. That's America's favorite freebie amateur drinker fingers alloy. 162 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: The people over there eat this, not that I want you. 163 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: Oh excuse me, I got all choked. I got so 164 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: choked up thinking about you and a freebie. Eight chain 165 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: restaurants for the best birthday freebies? Have you ever gone 166 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: to a restaurant for the birthday freebee after the age 167 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: of twelve. Yes, okay, you're a terrible person. Why because 168 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. Why is it ridiculous? You're a grown man, 169 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: act like it. I'm a grown man, grown man, What 170 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: are you going to freebies for? Because it's free and 171 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: it's tasty. 172 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 2: Because every once we should all be able to unite 173 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 2: around the idea that sometimes mazzarella sticks should be. 174 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: On the house. You got my vote. These are eight 175 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: places where you can get something for free on your birthday, 176 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: starting with Red Robin. By the way, there is an 177 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: amazing story. Oh this wasn't in the Wall Street Journal. 178 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: This was a story about how Red Robin was dominating 179 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: and how they took care of the customer and how 180 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: after I was it a purchase or they were talking 181 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: about like how can we reduce some costs and they said, 182 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: you know we're gonna do We're gonna get rid of 183 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: bus boys. So they got rid of bus boys, and 184 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 1: what happened. It took longer to clear tables, and then 185 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 1: service slowed down, then wait times went up, and everything 186 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: went to hell. If you don't take care of the 187 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: customer first, nothing else can happen. And I would love 188 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: to hear if someone from Red Robin catches this show 189 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: and then could say like, hey, here's really what went on, 190 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: or somebody knows it a little bit more. I forget 191 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: where I read it. It was an amazing piece that 192 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: makes sense. 193 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 2: I mean not just the fact that you're not turning 194 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 2: over tables fast enough, but also if dirty dishes are 195 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 2: on tables longer than they should be, and you're sitting 196 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 2: there trying to enjoy your meal and you're looking over 197 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 2: and there's a half eaten burger just sitting there for 198 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 2: twenty five minutes, that's all right, now grosses you out. 199 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 2: It does, especially when you're spending sixteen seventeen dollars on 200 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 2: a hamburger seventeen dollars. I think Red Robin has gotten 201 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 2: a little pricey. 202 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 1: Well, I think that standard these days true. But here 203 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: are the deals you sign up for. I don't know, 204 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 1: maybe they're app You get a free appetizer with your 205 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: first purchase. Then on your birthday you got a free 206 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: birthday milkshake. You don't even have to make a purchase, 207 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: But if you spend just ten dollars throughout the year, 208 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: you got a free birthday burger, so you can go 209 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: on your birthday, get a burger, get a milkshake, and 210 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: then get all sorts of lactose intolerant guess. 211 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 2: Oh wow, jeez, what's your birthday like? If you can't 212 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 2: have a burger and a milkshake. 213 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: That's all I'm looking for in this world. 214 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:47,719 Speaker 2: See but right there you criticize me saying fingers, you're 215 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 2: a child because you want to get a free beyond 216 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 2: your birthday. Red Robin is saying, listen, happy birthday, Tony. 217 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 2: Here's a burger and a milkshake, and if you request it, they. 218 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: May make you a Shamrock Shake. No, not's only that's 219 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: Onnly McDonald's. And this is the season we are officially. 220 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 1: Can I get a little bit of applause? We're in 221 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 1: Shamrock Shake season. This is the greatest thing I ever 222 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: having me. I love I love the Shamrock Shake. I 223 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 1: met my first wife drinking at Shamrock Shake. I said, 224 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: true story, She's still my wife. Please, Starbucks, you have 225 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: to be a Starbucks Rewards member for at least seven 226 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: days before your birthday, and your birthday has to be 227 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: listed on your account, and you can get a free 228 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:34,719 Speaker 1: handcrafted drink of your choice, any size, any customization, and 229 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 1: you well know that if you've been to Starbucks recently, 230 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: that could be worth thirty thousand dollars. That's true. 231 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 2: Wow, So you have to have your birthday the exact 232 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 2: date shared with them in the app? Doesn't that that 233 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 2: creeps me out a little? 234 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: Everybody's sharing everything the idea. Listen, we are the last 235 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: generation that actually thinks privacy is a thing. App. 236 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 3: These people don't care. It's crazy, it's gross, it is 237 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 3: very wrong. I don't want Starbucks knowing my birthday. That's 238 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 3: it's an American Starbucks. Are them knowing your birthday? 239 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 1: You know what? Both, that's what we thought. Guys. We 240 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: know Starbucks is never gonna be a sponsor, and I 241 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: want you to know right now, we don't care. We 242 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: don't Firehouse Subs. You like the Firehouse Subs, don't you? 243 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: I do like the Firehouse Subs. You like the Penn 244 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: Station more than the Firehouse. I like Penn Station. I 245 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: like Jersey Mice. It's it's really really hard to screw 246 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 1: up a sandwich. Oh, I don't believe that to be true. 247 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: Wrong bread, wrong condiments, not enough liquid to make the 248 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: bread meat race. 249 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 2: Here I come together. I'm talking about a sandwich company. Yes, 250 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 2: you can screw up a sandwich, but I don't understand 251 00:13:56,320 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 2: how sandwich companies can somehow go out of business less 252 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 2: they get a littleo big for the Britches. Do you 253 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 2: like Quiznos? I'm looking at you, Quiznos. I really like 254 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 2: Quiznos back in two thousand. 255 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: Yes, Oh they were the pets dot Com of sandwiches. 256 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: Firehouse free medium sub to members on their birthday. You 257 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: have to have made a purchase in the last six 258 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: months and make a minimum one dollar purchase during the 259 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: redemption window. What help, I'm out, Firehouse. Let it all 260 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: burn down. Redemption windows, redemption windows not doing any work. 261 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: What are you talking about? 262 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 2: By the way, that's what we're going to call people's 263 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 2: birthdays from now on here on. E drink smoke happy, 264 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 2: redemption window. 265 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: Way, way, way too much work right there? You lost me. 266 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: Applebee's and I know you do love the app Bees. 267 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: You come in for a free birthday treat a dessert 268 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: on your birthday. If you're a member of Club Applebee's, 269 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: you will get a free treat and a singing serenade 270 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: from servers. I am also out. Nope. 271 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 2: Can you read that last sentence again, including Club Applebe's 272 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 2: uh uh? 273 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: Who signed up for their use in advats, we'll get 274 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: a free treats and a singing serenade from the servers. 275 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 3: Hit it it's Club Applebees. 276 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: Oh oh, I thought you were gonna sing you were 277 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: doing the club thing. 278 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going to do in the whole club thing. 279 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 2: But there is nothing worse. Ye, Well, there are plenty 280 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 2: of other things that could be worse than doing the 281 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 2: weird birthday song at chain restaurants because they can't actually 282 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 2: sing happy Birthday. So you have like random servers going happy, happy, 283 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 2: happy birthday. It's your special day, Happy happy birthday. It's 284 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 2: your redemption window from that well yeah, that old ditty 285 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 2: redemption windows God. 286 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: Classic timeless originally sung by Bing Crosby. See I thought 287 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: you were gonna go with Philip Glass. Oh you can't 288 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: steal your jokes. Now here's what I did not know 289 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: about it all McDonald's. What if you get the app? 290 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: As you have suggested many times, numerous times that with 291 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: the McDonald's app, all things are possible. Fingers got the 292 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: McDonald's app got him a point off his mortgage, So true, 293 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: McDonald's Rewards members get a free medium fry on their birthday, 294 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: no purchase required. That ladies and gentlemen free McDonald's fries. 295 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: And with the app you get twenty percent off all 296 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: best buy purchases. I don't think that's true. You will 297 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: get thirty percent off from the Crutchfield Catalog. 298 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 2: I don't even know what that is, and have off 299 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 2: Montgomery Ward Montgomery Ward. 300 00:16:54,960 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: That takes me back. Wow. Oh are you kidding? This 301 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 1: show is a time machine from the Dark Catalog. There's 302 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 1: no one else remember dak now. Oh I'm one of 303 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 1: the people who fell for that crab. Oh you don't 304 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: really remember the Dark Catalog? I have no Was this 305 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 1: an East Coast thing? Maybe? But uh, mistakes were made 306 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: to schools the Dark Catalog. Eat Drink Smoke It is 307 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: your cigar bourbon foody extravaganza. I'm Tony Katz. That's fingers 308 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: for what you find everything we do at Eat Drink 309 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: Smoke show dot com. This is the Year of the 310 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: Duke or is it Duque? I honestly don't know. From 311 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: Dunbart and Tobacco and trust this five by forty eight 312 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 1: Ecuadorian Habano Rosato rapper you've got Mexican San Andreas in 313 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: the binder and a filler that's Nica Roguin and Pennsylvania broadleaf. 314 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: There is a lot happening here. It's a very nice smoke. 315 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 2: Fingers, yes, it is, and it's been again. I know 316 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 2: we've been harping on this lately, but very low maintenance. 317 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 2: Been able to set the stick down and it has not. 318 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 2: I don't think we're harping on a low maintenance I 319 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 2: think we're cheering a little matenance. You're correct, that's true. 320 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 2: I just noticed recently, say in the last six months 321 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 2: or so, smoking some cigars, not necessarily ones that we've reviewed, 322 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 2: how it's turned into work sometimes instead of just being 323 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,479 Speaker 2: able to sit back, relax and enjoy a cigar without 324 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 2: constantly having to relight it or it's plugged or and 325 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 2: some of those things are clearly not the follow to 326 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 2: the manufacturer. These things just happen sometimes. But this has 327 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 2: been wonderfully low maintenance for me. The wood is still there, 328 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 2: that a little hint of chocolate, some black pepper, and 329 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 2: that's about it for me so far. 330 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: But that's plenty. This is a nice smoke. So the 331 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: I was looking at some of the things about it, right, 332 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: some things about how the cigar is made and manufactured, 333 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 1: and I was noticing that I did get this char 334 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: off of it. I'm like, does this remind me because 335 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: Dunbarton Tobacco and Trust, Dunbarton and Tobacco Trust does the 336 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: red meat lovers and is this does it have that 337 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 1: kind of feeling to it? And it does. I mean 338 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: that does have Nicaraguan and it does have broadly bened 339 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: so it could be a little bit of of that, 340 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 1: but this is It's a nice overall flavor. But I 341 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 1: must say I've seen people talk about getting a niece 342 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: off this cigar, getting raisin off this cigar and not 343 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: a niece. Now, raisin is an interesting way to discuss 344 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: certain levels of sweetness, and I don't since I'm not 345 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: a raisin guy, I don't usually attribute in that way. 346 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: What I will say is is that if there was 347 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 1: supposed to be a large spice hit from the Habano Rosato, 348 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: I don't have it. I don't have it, or it 349 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: is just very very mellow as an overall part of 350 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 1: the cigar. Again, I feel like I'm kind of weaving 351 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: in and out from from the char and and with 352 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 1: that with that cedar, there's just a light bit of spice. 353 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 1: I get a tremendous amount of smoke. There's a good 354 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: richness and a little bit of tobacco forward that's going on. 355 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: But I don't get any spice hit. I don't really 356 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 1: feel pepper, really, no man, and I can be told 357 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: that I'm just drunk. I don't know, but I'm not yet. 358 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: I just don't. I don't feel it. Now. When you've 359 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: got a five by forty eight, the same rules apply, 360 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: right because this cigar five inches long, forty eight ring gauge? 361 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: What did you eat today? What did you drink today? 362 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: What is the weather? 363 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 2: Like? 364 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: You put that in your notebook, any notebook will do. 365 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 1: Just make it yours and then put it on the 366 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: shelf when you're done, and grab another one, go back 367 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: and review later on in the years that go by. 368 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: What did you eat today? What do you drink today? 369 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 1: What is the weather that all affects your palate? And 370 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: then break the cigar into third It's first, third, second, third, 371 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: final third. It doesn't matter if it's a five inch 372 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: cigar or Churchill, doesn't matter what it is, same rules apply. 373 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 1: And then what are the flavors you're getting out of it. 374 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: What are the notes that you're getting. What is it 375 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 1: that you're experiencing when you try that cigar a month 376 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: from now, six months from now, whatever it is, you 377 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 1: do the same thing and you really try and get 378 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: an idea looking at those notes of your through line, 379 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,959 Speaker 1: what is it that's actually moving you in the cigar? 380 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: The question, fingers melloy, is is this in your humidor 381 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: this comes in a box of fourteen? Okay? And this 382 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: cigar is an MSRP of seventeen dollars and thirty five cents. 383 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: A box of fourteen being a forty eight is a 384 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,479 Speaker 1: question of how it could be packaged presentation that that 385 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: Dunbarton was looking for. It could be a whole host 386 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: of things. Seventeen dollars and thirty five cents. 387 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 2: Boy, that's I was hoping you were going to say 388 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 2: twelve to thirteen dollars. 389 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: Seventeen because it's a five by forty eight, that's why 390 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: you're doing it. Yeah, So let me go first and 391 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: answer the question, yes, it is in my humanor Okay, 392 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: so far, now I have a lot more of the 393 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: cigar to go. We're just in the first third of 394 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: the cigar. I would argue that you got to be 395 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: a few of these in over the course of a 396 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 1: few months to really know where you're at and what 397 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: you think. And this is the kind of thing. It's unique. 398 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: I think it's special. I think that it's playing really 399 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: beautifully and not always in the flavors I like. But 400 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: I'm freaking digging the char man. I did not know 401 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: that that was my thing. I like coffee, I like richness, 402 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: I like fullness. I like that nutty cream we're talking about. 403 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: The char thing is working for me in a very 404 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,239 Speaker 1: big way, and it does remind me a little bit. 405 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if Steve would agree or disagree about 406 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 1: the red meat Lovers. It does. It's what it throws 407 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 1: me back to. And I like that cigar. I like 408 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: this cigar and a box and once in a while stick. Sure. Now, 409 00:22:58,480 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 1: could I do this weekly? 410 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 4: Yes? 411 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: Right now? Based on what I'm getting, because it's not overspiced, 412 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: I could do a weekly. 413 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 2: I don't want anyone to misunderstand me. This has nothing 414 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 2: to do with the flavor profile or the construction. Jeez, 415 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 2: it makes you say. It has everything to do with 416 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 2: This is a value conversation, and man, we'll start seventeen 417 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 2: eighteen dollars a stick for the size of the gar. 418 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 2: I'd have to think about it, and I have to 419 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 2: get through the rest of the smoke before I would 420 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 2: make a final decision on it. 421 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:34,239 Speaker 4: But you are, and I can appreciate if it's not 422 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 4: right what it's not even a question of Hey, I 423 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 4: can appreciate what it is, but I can also appreciate. 424 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 1: It's not mine right this. I don't know why this works? Week? 425 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: Can I tell you? I was in Florida January. In 426 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: Florida in January and I was in a burn rocky 427 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 1: hotel's place burned down in Naples, and they had the 428 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: padrone fifty year. I love the fifty year, not the 429 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: Jose Padernes, not the eighty years or other thing. The 430 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 1: Padrone fifty year is to me everything. And they had 431 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: some and I was gonna get a cup, and I said, 432 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: do you have a box? And the guy looked at 433 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 1: me like I had nine heads. He goes, want you 434 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: want a box? Like if there's a box discount, I 435 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: want a box. Uh, it's not a cheap cigar. I 436 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: took out a second mortgage. I flew home with a 437 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: box of fifty of the fifty year. Oh go look 438 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: in there. They're gorgeous and it's there's a natural and 439 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: there's a ma aduro, both of them. I all day 440 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: if I could make the if I had, you know, 441 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: that kind of money me I'm in radio, I would 442 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,719 Speaker 1: smoke that cigar every day. Would be the only thing 443 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: I smoked. We reviewed that didn't Oh, sure, yeah, you 444 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: absolutely have. I don't know I could smoke this every day, 445 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: but I am absolutely digging the daylights out of it. 446 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: That's I'm telling you. The wood mixed with the char 447 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: really interesting. I have it. I am not disagreeing with 448 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 1: you on any of your points. 449 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 2: It's just when you start getting to eighteen seventeen, eighteen 450 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 2: ninety dollars yet, you know, I have to think about 451 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 2: it a little bit more. But you know, before you 452 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 2: asked me that, I started talking about how wonderful the 453 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 2: smoking experience has been so far, and it feels like 454 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 2: it's getting more difficult sometimes to be able to find 455 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 2: stick that so that are a little maintenance. So maybe 456 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 2: I could talk myself into this. 457 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: You now, you have brought this up more than once. 458 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: You've brought up the band, which I think is just 459 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: just funny how bitter and angry you are. But you've 460 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: brought up more than once the maintenance thing. Are you 461 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: finding that your humid door is letting you down? Are 462 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: you finding that cigars you think they've been ishumatic? 463 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 2: I really can't say when it comes to my humidor, 464 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 2: because I've had one cigar out of my humidor in the. 465 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 1: Last three months because of the weather. I don't. 466 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 2: I just have not, oh right, been wanting to go 467 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:04,360 Speaker 2: outside in twenty degree weather and smoke a cigar. I've 468 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 2: just noticed from whether I'm going to lounges or you know, 469 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 2: someone hands me a cigar and I have one, there's 470 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 2: been a lot of you know, having to re light 471 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 2: it and I don't. I'm not one you see me. 472 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 2: I smoke way too quickly. It's I don't put my 473 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 2: cigar down for ten minutes and then pick it up 474 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 2: and get upset that it's that's not uh not still lit. 475 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 2: So and a lot of plug plugging issues. Uh so 476 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 2: lately that's been a thing for me. 477 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: I can appreciate it. If listen, if if the if 478 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 1: the answer is I can't. I I just don't want 479 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: to spend seventeen dollars. It's a fine answer, but you're 480 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: you're right. If if you can spend a little bit 481 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,679 Speaker 1: but know that you're going to have more quality time 482 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: with the cigar, let's work with it. Now. You've got 483 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: to ask yourself where your value is in the flavor 484 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: or in the experience? Right, that's a which can make 485 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: this a yess that by the way, that's a that's 486 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: a good question. Where is the value this fingers maloy 487 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 1: is a stupid story. You'll have to be more specific. 488 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: T Rink Smoke. I'm Tony Katz. That's fingers may find 489 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: everything we do at Eat, Drink, Smoke show dot com. 490 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: Don't forget our books. Let's Go Bourbon and Let's Go 491 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 1: Bbq available at Amazon dot com. Let's Go Bourbon, the 492 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,360 Speaker 1: Bourbon Reader You've always needed, and Let's Go Barbecue. Let's 493 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 1: Go Bbq Recipes, Tips and Tails from the Pit available 494 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: at Amazon dot com. Get yours today. 495 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 2: Both of those books have been reviewed online and have 496 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,199 Speaker 2: been at quote. The review has been not a stupid 497 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 2: story for both of them. 498 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: Not stupid story. Over there at Tom'sguide dot com. This 499 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: was the headline. And sometimes you realize that these these 500 00:27:55,720 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 1: websites that only we talk about how are they making 501 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 1: any money? This must all be AI. This can't be. 502 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: Someone actually wrote this can't be. I have no idea. 503 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 2: What Listen, you and I have talked previously, have I 504 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 2: about how I've been. 505 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 1: Having problems with sleep lately? Right? 506 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 2: And whenever I need sleep advice, I go to Tom's 507 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 2: guide because Tom is an excellent sleeper. It's the same 508 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 2: time for MySpace. Yeah, he's had a lot of time 509 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 2: on his hands. He takes lots of naps. 510 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: Here's the headline. I swear to you stop waking up 511 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: at three am. I asked five doctors for their best 512 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: sleep hygiene tips, and hear what they Here's what they said. 513 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: What sleep hygiene? Stop waking up at three am? Do 514 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: they mean? Like? What if you have to get to work? 515 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: Like what if you have to get up a three 516 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: am to go to work? 517 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 2: Now, I think what they're saying is you wake up 518 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 2: in the middle of the night and you can't sleep. 519 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: Oh, oh, that makes sense sense. This woman claims that 520 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: she has cut through the clutter and track down the experts. 521 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: But there's a catch. What we're about to share none 522 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: of them are quick fixes. Oh are we even allowed 523 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: to share this on the air. I think we are 524 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: you to look around. Yeah, don't let the mattress people know. 525 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: Here the key takeaway step one. Lots of beta. 526 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 2: Drill Oh talk about making the complex simple. 527 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: Right, and they say the key is to wash it 528 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: down with niquil. At this moment, our lawyers would like 529 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: to remind you that we are not medical professionals and 530 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: you should not take medical advice from Eat Drink Smoke 531 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: nor anybody associated with Eat Drink Smoke. We're a silly 532 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: show that talks about cigars, bourbon and lifestyle and we 533 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: like to enjoy ourselves with a little bit of ram 534 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: be humor. Eat Drink Smoke is not for medical diagnoses. 535 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:10,479 Speaker 1: Please check with your doctor, pharmacist, or Google, because Google 536 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 1: really understands how to take care of you. And you 537 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: know how he's serious. 538 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 2: You know how you can tell We get all of 539 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 2: our medical advice from Tom's guide. 540 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: We sure do, so here are the takeaways. Go to 541 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: bed at the same time every night because your body 542 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: learns when it's time to sleep. You do this right, No, 543 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: you're in bed every night seven to fifteen pm. 544 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 2: I wish that were the case, but no, Unfortunately, as 545 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 2: you know I get up at two am every morning 546 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 2: for one of the eighteen gigs I have. I'm exaggerating, 547 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 2: but I do get up at four thirty in the morning. 548 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 2: You are an early riser as well. 549 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: Because I have a morning radio show that is accurato. 550 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 2: So unfortunately, I don't know if you do this, but 551 00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 2: I've gotten accustomed to getting up early, bocking out the 552 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 2: work for the day, and then getting home and I 553 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 2: can't help myself. I take a nap. 554 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: Oh I do not. 555 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 2: I used to meditate, and that would give you used 556 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 2: to do trans meditate? Yes, yes, and you're a believer, yes, 557 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 2: And it used to get me through. And then I 558 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 2: got into this awful habit of taking a nap, which, oh, 559 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 2: fifteen twenty minutes, I'll feel great, and next thing, you know, 560 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 2: I look and it's two and a half hours. 561 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: So what it walk us through? The TM? The well, 562 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: it's transcendental. 563 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 2: So the TM it's tough because to do true TM 564 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 2: you have to get with their people. 565 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 1: Oh is that right? 566 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 2: Yes, and go through a series of training. And I 567 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 2: know that the TM people right now are going to 568 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 2: be screaming at the radio when I explained it. 569 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: But is that true? Yes? They give you. 570 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 2: A mantra, a word that you repeat over and over 571 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 2: and again, and it helps clear your head because you're 572 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 2: focusing on that world word and that one word alone, 573 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 2: and it will help push all of the outside Is 574 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 2: this a known word? 575 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: Is this a word that exists? Here's the deal. It could. 576 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 2: It's a gibberish nonsense word. But you can't give it 577 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 2: to your You know you can't. Technically, you're not supposed 578 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 2: to get it yourself because you'll relate to how you 579 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 2: got that word other than the way the TM people 580 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 2: do it, which is they assign you so your your 581 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 2: whole thing. And I know people are going to be 582 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 2: screaming right now because uh, you know, the TM people 583 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 2: are gonna be. 584 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: Like, that's not exactly the way it is. 585 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 2: But basically, you don't want to associate that word with 586 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 2: anything because that can start to bring outside worldly thoughts. 587 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 2: In one second, the lawyers will eat, drink, smoke point 588 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 2: you to know that we know absolutely nothing about transcendental meditation. 589 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 2: Everything fingers fall away is said is probably made up 590 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 2: from a fever dream for not going to bed at 591 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 2: the same time every single night. Please do not pay 592 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 2: any attention to what we're talking about regarding transcendental meditation. 593 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 2: This is just fingers with some ideas about how you 594 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 2: might be able to better relax your minds. We're not 595 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 2: trying to insult anybody. Please don't sue us. We don't 596 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 2: have money. We're podcasters, so anyway, Tam, we are not 597 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 2: Joe Rogan style podcasters. We're the other podcasters. Thank you 598 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 2: for weekend radio hosts who happened to offer the radio 599 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 2: show in podcast form after it hits a radio station 600 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 2: near you. 601 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: The eat Rink Smoke lawyers would like for me to 602 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: apologize for calling us a podcast and not a radio show. Clearly, 603 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: we are a radio show first that is also available 604 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: as a podcast. We would hate for anyone to think 605 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: that we would think of ourselves as lowly podcasters, because 606 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: all those people are losers. The lawyers would be eaturing 607 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 1: them done. I think I've done with the gig. 608 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 2: I was really hoping, I was really hoping you were 609 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 2: going to throw in a patent pending for no reason whatsoever. 610 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: But you found that it worked. 611 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 2: Yes, I found that it worked for me. But then 612 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 2: I stopped because I decided to take a nap. And 613 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 2: now I'm in this vicious cycle where I come home 614 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 2: from work, take a two hour nap, and then I'm 615 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 2: up till midnight, and then I have to be up 616 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 2: at four thirty in the morning. So basically what I 617 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 2: do is I take two naps every day, which is 618 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 2: exactly the opposite of the advice that Tom's guy gives us. 619 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: Health that is not healthy. 620 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 2: And you look, and I know people look at me 621 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 2: if you're watching us right now on YouTube, and they're 622 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 2: saying to themselves. 623 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: He looks like he's in picture perfect health. How is 624 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: this possible? 625 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 2: Can we talk about your mullet? What's wrong with my mullet? 626 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 2: You're envisioning me right now. You're hiding a white stallion 627 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 2: on a beach. 628 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: You God, hold, I just gotta get that image out 629 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 1: of my head. Try some TM. 630 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 4: Yeah you uh you you chose the mullet. 631 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,800 Speaker 1: No, the mullet chose me, right, Yes, exactly. I know. 632 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 2: I've been trying to grow out the back of my 633 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 2: uh my hair for a long time because I've never 634 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 2: had long hair. At one point, Tony, you had you 635 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,399 Speaker 2: had it down, dude, that the belt waist. Wow, not see, 636 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 2: I've never had that. My hair has thinned considerably, so 637 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,760 Speaker 2: now my hair. I can actually grow it long instead 638 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 2: of but you still have like the solid hairline. Oh yeah, 639 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 2: it's just thinned before. You know, twenty thirty years ago, 640 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 2: if I tried to grow long hair, it would turn 641 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 2: into an afro. It would troll right up, especially in 642 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 2: this humidity. 643 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 1: I will tell you I do a lot of TV 644 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,919 Speaker 1: stuff and a lot of video stuff, and lately it 645 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 1: is all about up up. Look at the hairline, dude, 646 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,839 Speaker 1: I go bald. I could care less. I know. It 647 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: doesn't mean it doesn't move me. I don't think about it. 648 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 1: And when I look at it, like yeah, it's it 649 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 1: is a little higher than it used to be. I 650 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 1: still have all my hair. Fine, go bald, and go bald. 651 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: What do you want me to do? Get upset by it? 652 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 1: And that's that's what the trolls are like, Oh, that's 653 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,919 Speaker 1: the what's what we're gonna mock him? Good lord? Yeah, 654 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: I don't really care about that sort of thing. You know. 655 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 2: I may come in here next week and I'll shave 656 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 2: my head and I'll be completely bald, or I'll have 657 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:11,240 Speaker 2: a mohawk. Right now for the first time in thirty 658 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,359 Speaker 2: five years, it's mullettown. 659 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know how I feel about I don't 660 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 1: know how I feel about my town. It's just like 661 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 1: a like a shampoo commercial. Yeah, he's just trying to 662 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 1: let it. He trying to like throw his hair back 663 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,439 Speaker 1: like he's a he's a nineteen year old onngenue. 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