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Speaker 3: Kevin Bowen writ's about the Colts every day too. And

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Speaker 3: you had quite the rundown this morning. I was reading

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Speaker 3: your stuff from this past week and including all the

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Speaker 3: guys that are back from practice, what's going on, how

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Speaker 3: things have been going. And I also was checking out

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Speaker 3: NFL dot com this morning, guys, and I saw that

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Speaker 3: the power rankings still have the Indianapolis Colts at NFL

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Speaker 3: dot Com as the second best team in the NFL

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Speaker 3: right now?

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Speaker 4: They right.

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Speaker 3: The bye week allowed the Colts to recharge a bit

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Speaker 3: after the loss to the Steelers, and the close shape

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Speaker 3: went over the Falcons overseas, but they must hit the

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Speaker 3: ground running this week with a game against the desperate

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Speaker 3: Chiefs at Arrowhead. There's some mystery over the health status

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Speaker 3: of two of their more important defenders, to Forrest Buckner

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Speaker 3: and Shavarius Ward, so the picture has muddled a bit.

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Speaker 3: There are also offensive concerns over the play of Daniel

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Speaker 3: Jones the past few weeks, as the quarterback has cooled

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Speaker 3: off noticeably after a blistering start. But the Colts still

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Speaker 3: have Jonathan Taylor and a beefy offensive line to fall

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Speaker 3: back on, and it doesn't feel right now like this

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Speaker 3: indie team will suddenly implode. I would probably have to

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Speaker 3: second all of those thoughts and feelings right now at

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Speaker 3: NFL dot Com. Where are you at there?

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Speaker 4: You think beefy? You think offensive line would take that

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Speaker 4: as a compliment.

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Speaker 3: I don't think offensive line worry about how they get described.

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Speaker 1: They do.

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Speaker 4: They worry about Braden Smith Right now? You eating seven

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Speaker 4: pancakes and seven over easy eggs.

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Speaker 3: And beef's fair probably for that.

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Speaker 4: Massive play of fruit. I believe so that Tandon border

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Speaker 4: and he described it. You know, I feel like nationally

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Speaker 4: it's kind of been a mixed bag this week and

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Speaker 4: what I've read about, you know, just kind of how

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Speaker 4: people view the Colts coming out of the bye week.

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Speaker 4: And you know, obviously the Chiefs are going to carry

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Speaker 4: more of the conversation in this matchup, considering you know,

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Speaker 4: as Nate Taylor alluded to us on the show yesterday, James,

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Speaker 4: this is probably the most def con they've had in

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Speaker 4: the Mahomes era, right up there with any other time.

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Speaker 4: You pointed out earlier in the show, this would be

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Speaker 4: the first time in Mahomes's history that he has lost

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Speaker 4: three straight regular season games. If indeed the Colts beat

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Speaker 4: them on Sunday, So I think just how the Colts respond, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm very curious about it. But you know, again, as

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Speaker 4: much as this one would, I think be a win

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Speaker 4: guess recent Colts memory. If you really want to speak truth,

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Speaker 4: the bigger game is next Sunday against Houston. The bigger

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Speaker 4: off how the division is right now, very rare. AFC

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Speaker 4: South looked like this on November twentieth. You have three

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Speaker 5: Do you think this is a must win though from

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Speaker 5: the cult perspective if you're trying to get the number

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Speaker 3: Have a bunch of hornets on there.

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Speaker 5: You know, I don't want to put too much one

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Speaker 5: not going to decide the season. But it comes down

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Speaker 4: You know you have the headhead against Denvers, that's in

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Speaker 4: your back pocket. The New England tie breaker would go

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Speaker 4: to conference record. Obviously, if you lost Sunday, that would

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Speaker 4: look at tiebreakers. So yeah, that is fair. Clark points

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Speaker 4: this debate about Denver in Kansas City, who would you

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Speaker 4: City combo that if Houston wins, it puts Buffalo now

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Speaker 4: do you say, oh boy, that is a hair greedy

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Speaker 4: because of Houston wins tonight, Colts lose Sunday next week,

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Speaker 4: If all of a sudden Houston beats Indy, they're a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it's gotten because last week you were I mean,

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Speaker 3: are you I don't know if I'm ready if they

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Speaker 3: they got issues, man, They got They don't have a

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Speaker 3: the doghouse with them all the time. Their defense is

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Speaker 4: It more and the.

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Speaker 3: More I see some of these other teams play because

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Speaker 3: You still kind of keep waiting for the Ravens to

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Speaker 3: hard to say right now that, aside from New England,

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Speaker 3: And I think that the Bills do start to run

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Speaker 3: it if they lose to Houston tonight, and Houston's just

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Speaker 4: So who are you cheering for?

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Speaker 3: I want the Bills. I want as much cushion over

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Speaker 4: I think the Denver defense their defense.

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Speaker 3: You know how many points did the Colts score against

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Speaker 3: be the pass rush. Based on what we've seen the

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Speaker 3: possible because I think you possibly, if the Texans lose tonight,

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Speaker 3: Now as Jacksonville starts to come on, what do we

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Speaker 3: One week they look good, the next week they know

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Speaker 3: looks so good. So I think that'll all take care.

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Speaker 3: I guess the long winded way of saying this is

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Speaker 3: I don't think the Bills are I don't think either

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Speaker 3: I think the Colts can play with any right now

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Speaker 4: James, one thing that hit me at Colts practice yesterday is,

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Speaker 4: you know, just with where we stand at Colts practice, typically,

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Speaker 4: especially on Wednesday's, the defensive backs are the position group

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Speaker 4: you know, Kenny Moore than second, you know, was watching

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Speaker 4: know he's taking this Wednesday off with the achilles injury

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Speaker 4: for last month or so. Obviously the expectation is he

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Speaker 4: and then you see cam binhen and it cross. You know,

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Speaker 4: I've covered the Colts since twenty ten. The five man

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Speaker 4: defensive back group they'll run out there Sunday. It's never

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Speaker 4: looked like this, I wrote this never. I mean I

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Speaker 4: I Yesvante Davis, great player, Stefan Gilmore, great players. David

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Speaker 4: Rhods had a really nice year. You know, They've had

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Speaker 4: Binden have given you. I just I don't think it's hyperbole.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's you know, prisoner of the moment.

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Speaker 4: I don't think I've seen a defensive back group on

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Speaker 4: paper look like what the Colts will run out there Sunday,

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Speaker 4: and fittingly, the first time they run it out there,

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Speaker 4: it is against the greatest quarterback of our lifetime lifetime

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Speaker 5: Like you've been alive for a long time, man, you

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Speaker 5: saw some great quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I agree, I just wasn't prepared for a

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Speaker 4: who's the greatest quarterback in NFL history at seven to

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Speaker 5: And I'm like, hey, man, in one to one too shabby.

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Speaker 5: But I do think have.

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Speaker 4: You seen Mahomes his career? I have I have you

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Speaker 4: know Brady's career?

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Speaker 5: Say, look, I live in the market.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna take two teams I'm gonna take that dude

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm gonna stick with the Manning family because you know,

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Speaker 5: I like living in Indianapolis, like the Indianapolis But we serious though, Yes,

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Speaker 5: I agree, And I wrote this in one of my

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Speaker 5: stories earlier this week, and I was looking at cornerbacks.

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Speaker 5: This might be the most talented cornerback trio they've ever

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Speaker 5: I would have to go back and look at, you know,

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Speaker 5: the real, real old days, pre Indianapolis Colts to kind

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Speaker 5: of verify that. But over the last twenty years, yeah,

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Speaker 5: this is a very talented group, especially resume wise, and

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Speaker 5: Gardner at one point was the highest paid cornerback, and

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Speaker 5: then Kenny a couple of years ago was the highest

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Speaker 5: paid slot corner and various Ward has got paid a

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Speaker 5: ton of money and they've all proven themselves in this league.

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Speaker 5: So I think from that aspect, very talented and in

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Speaker 5: the back end, like you said, cam Bine them, He's

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Speaker 5: a star to me, but he's never made a Pro Bowl,

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Speaker 3: Well, if it said it on Wikipedia, must be true, right, James.

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Speaker 4: But I do have a chat GBT question. Maybe we

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Speaker 4: can say that for the other side, Jeff. We got

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Speaker 4: we got into that yesterday. Mark was just Mark was

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Speaker 4: being a child yesterday with all these Kevin Bowen Ai Pictures.

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Speaker 4: I didn't do it.

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Speaker 5: The listener started, and I was like, let me see

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Speaker 5: what I can do.

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Speaker 4: And you and Jeremiah just childering out. I didn't do it.

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Speaker 5: The listener started, and then I said, I wanted to

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Speaker 5: do more.

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Speaker 3: I'll try one. I want to show what you can

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Speaker 3: share my story when we get back into that a

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Speaker 3: little bit later on, because I do have a you know,

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Speaker 3: having a make up images story to share with you guys.

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Speaker 4: But anyway, the.

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Speaker 3: Play back again presented by CNJ Water, the official water

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Speaker 3: treatment partner of the Indiana Pacers cnjwater dot com. We

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Speaker 3: take another look at the Colts and what's at stake

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Speaker 3: coming up this week, and also the rest of the

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Speaker 3: AFC and the NFL. As we continue next, along with

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Speaker 3: your comments on the fantext line at two three nine

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Speaker 3: ten seventy Next ninety three five one seven fifth. I'm

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Speaker 3: just gonna have to groove to this one for a second.

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Speaker 4: Mark.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, it's a Thursday morning, ninety three five, one oh

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Speaker 3: seven five the Fan. The Indiana Pacers coming up with

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Speaker 3: a nine point win at home last night to break

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Speaker 3: an eight game losing streak. They got past the Charlotte

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Speaker 3: Hornets and on the Payless Lookers hotline right now to

467
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Speaker 3: give us a little more info on that and what

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Speaker 3: the Pacers look like moving forward. Our good friend Scott

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Speaker 3: Agnes from the Fieldhouse Files. Scott, I know you don't

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Speaker 3: necessarily root four against whatever, but it's gotta be better

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Speaker 3: after eight games in a row to write about losses

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Speaker 3: to ride about a win.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good morning, guys.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, you feel in the city more than anything, right,

475
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Speaker 6: Like everybody was down. It's even on social media a

476
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Speaker 6: little bit on the group, and so yeah, you're happy

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Speaker 6: to see these guys bounce back and get in the

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Speaker 6: win column after what they have been through eight straight losses.

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Speaker 6: That one in thirteen started and more than anything, it's

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Speaker 6: got to be painful for these guys to see one

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Speaker 6: guy after another go down with an injury, and so yeah,

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Speaker 6: last night was needed, I think for the morale of

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Speaker 6: the team.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure Scott.

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Speaker 5: Can we get in an oral history on Jay Huff's

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Speaker 5: first poster dunk as a Pacer? Is that next up

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Speaker 5: on fieldhusfiles dot com?

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Speaker 1: Not quite?

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Speaker 6: But yeah, how about him leading them in three pointers

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Speaker 6: to last night? I bet most fans didn't foresee that

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Speaker 6: happening at all this season either.

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Speaker 1: But that's that's what the Pacers knew they were.

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Speaker 6: He was capable of giving a larger opportunity, and for

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Speaker 6: sure that was got to be the highlight of his

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Speaker 6: season so far.

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Speaker 5: I don't want to take too much away from the

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Speaker 5: fact that Charlotte is awful. We know that, But players

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Speaker 5: in front of you, how much do you think that

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Speaker 5: third quarter was just needed from a morale standpoint, Whether

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Speaker 5: was Jay Huff making some players and Ow there is

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Speaker 5: chipping in as well to you know, have a sequence

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Speaker 5: or a series of sequences where I felt like kind

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Speaker 5: of the old Pacers running and gun and making threes,

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Speaker 5: getting stops and getting in transition.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I thought we felt that a lot last night,

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Speaker 6: and several different instances, including even a little bit there

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Speaker 6: in the first quarter where they're getting out and running.

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Speaker 6: Their fast breakpoints were kind of at a normal range

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Speaker 6: of what we expect. Certainly now, the rebounding advantage of

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Speaker 6: what Charlotte was able to do in such early on

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Speaker 6: was a little bit concerning. I was like, I don't

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Speaker 6: know where this is headed, just based off that, because

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Speaker 6: they've seen in recent games, you know, certain opponents would

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Speaker 6: be so good at one thing that the Pacers would

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Speaker 6: struggle right at Toronto Raptors. It was fast break points

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Speaker 6: for example, really stands out. And with the Hornets it

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Speaker 6: was definitely rebounding. But yeah, yeah, this was one of

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Speaker 6: those situations, James, I totally agree with you that you know,

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Speaker 6: you know what Matherin is going to do, and he's

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Speaker 6: so young that he's gonna be in shape even though

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Speaker 6: he hadn't played for three weeks, and I thought he

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Speaker 6: had just such a complete, well rounded game that was

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Speaker 6: that was great to see, and then so did everybody else,

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Speaker 6: like Nemhar picking his spots early in on the game.

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Speaker 6: And I think it's just you're starting to see a

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Speaker 6: little bit of normalcy, I think with with with player availability,

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Speaker 6: and that's directly impacted everybody being allowed to play and

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Speaker 6: being able to play back in their normal role. The

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Speaker 6: only big concern that continues to pop up, I would say,

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Speaker 6: is these fouls at the center spot. I mean Isaiah

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Speaker 6: Jackson and foul trouble Bradley and foul trouble Hoff too,

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Speaker 6: And I think eight of their first twelve or fourteen

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Speaker 6: fouls were come from that center spot, and that's been

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Speaker 6: something that's bothered them for the first month of the season.

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Speaker 5: Scott.

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Speaker 4: You know Rick Carlisle mentioned after the Becks kind of

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Speaker 4: some lineup fluidity moving forward. We obviously know Nemart, Matherin

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Speaker 4: and Siakam are going nowhere. Those are definite starters. So

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Speaker 4: as you look at you know, Shepherd and Walker, maybe

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Speaker 4: obviously the center rotation you point out, do you view

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Speaker 4: that as more matchup base night in and night out

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Speaker 4: who the other team has, or do you view that

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Speaker 4: more who's playing who's the hothand for us?

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Speaker 1: I guess yeah, I think I viewed as the former

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Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 6: I think Carlile and his staff have gone back to

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Speaker 6: what gives them the best chance.

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Speaker 1: For that one game.

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Speaker 6: They have to take it truly one game at a time,

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Speaker 6: and I think nobody has really shown themselves to really

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Speaker 6: take over that third guard spot, the forward small forward

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Speaker 6: spot like a Jerris.

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Speaker 1: Walker, Ben Shephard, and so.

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Speaker 6: I think it'll probably that continue to be based on

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Speaker 6: what they need in that moment, unless somebody is on

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Speaker 6: a here, unless somebody is just in a nice groove,

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Speaker 6: and so far nobody has taken advantage of that just yet.

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Speaker 1: And I think so like I was saying kind.

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Speaker 6: Of having some normalcy, having that lineup fluidity like Carlisle

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Speaker 6: was talking about. I think that will help a lot

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Speaker 6: of these guys, especially those that were younger guys that

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Speaker 6: aren't necessarily in the rotation or aren't has to be

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Speaker 6: starters in their usual role. Like Walker's coming off a

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Speaker 6: postseason last year where it ended abruptly because of that

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Speaker 6: ankle injury and he wasn't able to play in the finals.

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Speaker 6: Then now that he's getting this big opportunity, I think

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Speaker 6: he's got to had to narrow it down his mind

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Speaker 6: and not let it run wild and just do what

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Speaker 6: he does best. And I think he's funneling that in

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Speaker 6: a lot better. At least that's what we saw last night.

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Speaker 4: Field House Files where you can find the work of

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Speaker 4: Scott Agnes. He's with us here on the Payless Slickers hotline,

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Speaker 4: sticking on Matheren here for a little bit more. You know,

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Speaker 4: again this for every pacer player, what this year's iteration

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Speaker 4: is asking of them is different, or you know, it's

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Speaker 4: just more on their plate. So with Matherin and the

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Speaker 4: contract and the restricted free agency, what do you think

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Speaker 4: the season has to look like Scott for the PA

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Speaker 4: to match anything and everything that's presented in front of

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Speaker 4: matter and from the other twenty nine teams.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a lot, mostly given what they already have

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Speaker 6: on the book. I think that's the number one factor

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Speaker 6: when you got to think ahead to what the Pacers

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Speaker 6: do and are able to do next summer is how

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Speaker 6: does it directly impact and what is feasible given their

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Speaker 6: current restraints because of the money they've given out over

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Speaker 6: the last two years and all really good deals, but

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Speaker 6: you can't pay everybody, and so that's the number one

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Speaker 6: thing the Pacers will have to come to life. They

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Speaker 6: would love to if it, if it could pan out here,

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Speaker 6: But here's I think you're probably to match any like

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Speaker 6: that's high bar to match any offer, which probably means

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Speaker 6: a max rookie contract type thing.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean, what are you looking at.

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Speaker 6: You're looking at twenty twenty points per game, having consistent

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Speaker 6: performances on both ends of the floor, which is something

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Speaker 6: the staff has emphasized to him since he arrived here.

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Speaker 6: And I don't know what the specific metrics are, but

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Speaker 6: I just think he's got to have that twenty points

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Speaker 6: per game and play within the style of play that

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Speaker 6: the coaching staff continue to emphasize and do it at

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Speaker 6: a high level.

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Speaker 1: Here moving forward, and because you can always Here's.

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Speaker 6: The other thing I like to emphasize too, is you

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Speaker 6: can always sign a guy and figure it out later

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Speaker 6: if it doesn't work out. And so I don't want.

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Speaker 6: I know a lot of fans see him as the

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Speaker 6: one that makes sense to move on, but I would

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Speaker 6: have some pause and hesitation in doing that because he

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Speaker 6: provides a lot of things the Pacers need right now.

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Speaker 1: It's scoring, its energy, it's a zephyr plays.

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Speaker 3: I'm curious to see if he continues this all year long.

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Speaker 3: But again, the opportunity for guys to be able to

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Speaker 3: develop now in the absence of so many injuries and

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Speaker 3: things like that. What are we saying about Jerry us

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Speaker 3: Walker at the All Star break?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I think you're saying saying that after

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Speaker 6: the rocky start to the season, you hope that he

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Speaker 6: had settled in a little bit, become more confident in

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Speaker 6: what is being demanded of him, and really risen to

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Speaker 6: the occasion, because I think those are That's not what's

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Speaker 6: been the case thus far.

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Speaker 1: He's had some glimpses, certainly.

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Speaker 6: His outside shot, something we saw really develop when he

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Speaker 6: was playing with the in the G League his first year.

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Speaker 6: That has continued to shine through even though he's been

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Speaker 6: in a rut the last several weeks. Certainly, I don't

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Speaker 6: worry about his shot. What I worry about is some

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Speaker 6: of the decision making. I worry about when he attacks

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Speaker 6: taxed to the rim, what's he going to do with it?

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Speaker 1: And it and it feels just like his maybe his

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Speaker 1: mind's racing.

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Speaker 6: And then defensively, the challenge has always been adapting to

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Speaker 6: the way in which the pacers want to play and

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Speaker 6: being in the right spots and tagging, tagging off.

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Speaker 1: And being in the right help position.

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Speaker 6: But I think by all Star break, I would hope

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Speaker 6: and I expect for him to be much better, much

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Speaker 6: more consistent, and absolutely have earned the minutes that he

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Speaker 6: is getting at that point.

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Speaker 3: All right, buddy, keep us informed And did we have

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Speaker 3: a little bit of a labor breakthrough in the WNBA yesterday?

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Speaker 1: Nothing? No, nothing significant.

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Speaker 6: You're just getting some leaks come out about what's potentially

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Speaker 6: going on or what's available to the players. I think

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Speaker 6: it's just some posturing to this point, but nothing significant.

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Speaker 3: But did they talk about the potential of the higher

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Speaker 3: paid players making over a million dollars.

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Speaker 1: Now, yeah, yeah, that was that was the touch point.

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Speaker 6: There is the fact that there might be at least

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Speaker 6: a million dollar per year contract that is utilized per player.

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Speaker 1: But we don't know what the salary caps looks like.

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Speaker 1: We don't know much. But I thought that was interesting.

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Speaker 6: That that was dropped, notably to me, because who generally

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Speaker 6: are those with the biggest voices and such. Well, it's

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Speaker 6: the max contract players, and so you start to take

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Speaker 6: care of them, and then maybe maybe even it brings

658
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Speaker 6: those players to the room to have further conversations. But

659
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Speaker 6: I did find it interesting that that was the one

660
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Speaker 6: notable thing that I think got out yesterday for sure.

661
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Speaker 3: All right, buddy, we'll talk to you soon.

662
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Speaker 1: Thank you as always, you bet, Thanks guys.

663
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 3: I did not know James Boys a closet Fleetwood macfan.

664
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Speaker 1: I like it.

665
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 5: I honestly think that there are certain songs, no matter

666
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 5: who the artist is, that everyone in the human race

667
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 5: has to like. It's like hearing Billy James from Michael

668
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 5: Jackson and being like that's not a good song. Well

669
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Speaker 5: you're not a human, simple as that.

670
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a bake Fleetwood mac fan. So it's always

671
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 3: good to hear that stuff right there. But you're right,

672
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 3: there are some songs that you just can't help it.

673
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Speaker 4: Be happy when it comes.

674
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 5: Man, They expand generations. Continence doesn't matter.

675
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Speaker 3: I thought it was interesting though that he immediately went

676
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 3: to being happy with breaking up with a girl. Did

677
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 3: you notice that.

678
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not gonna touch that one.

679
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Speaker 5: Hey, well, we'll get to Coach. I'll save my dating

680
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 5: advice for other episodes.

681
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 3: We do have the Coach here. It is our weekly

682
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 3: chat with the head coach for Butler Basketball, Dad Mada,

683
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Speaker 3: joining us on the Payliss Liquors hotline right now. We

684
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 3: always like having him around and uh, Coach, we were

685
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 3: just talking about, uh, you know, binging TV or anything

686
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 3: like that. Do you have time to watch anything other

687
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 3: than film once the basketball season starts?

688
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: You know what?

689
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 2: It's funny you asked that I'm not a TV guy,

690
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 2: but now I'm into westerns like old time.

691
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: There's a there's a station called Grit TV.

692
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and at night I watch Westerns every night, like

693
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Speaker 2: into the early mornings.

694
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Speaker 1: Just I don't know what it is.

695
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 2: I think when I still kid, I used to watch

696
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 2: me with my dad. I think it kind of reminds

697
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 2: me of that. And and uh, I mean some of

698
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 2: the greatest lines in movies are from like Westerns.

699
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Speaker 4: I like that you're waking up at two am and

700
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 4: John Wayne staring back at you.

701
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: Absolutely.

702
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean it's it's the oddest thing. I've been

703
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 2: doing it now for probably three months.

704
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 4: I like it. It's good.

705
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, Coach Monda brought to us every week here by

706
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 3: Thompson Furniture and Mattress and Columbus and Business since the

707
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 3: year before Inklefield House opened in nineteen twenty seven, Lazy Boy,

708
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 3: Indiana made Smith Brothers Furniture, Stearns and Foster temper Pedic

709
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Speaker 3: mattresses free delivery to the entire Indianapolis metro area, worth

710
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Speaker 3: to drive to Columbus Thompson Furniture dot Net. Coach, you are,

711
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 3: like I said, probably spend a lot of time on

712
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 3: film right now. I want to know what you see

713
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 3: when you're watching Finley Bizjack, because he is really starting

714
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 3: to mature into a tough front line player in not

715
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 3: just the Big East but college basketball.

716
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Speaker 6: No.

717
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 2: I do with Fennis playing at a very very high level.

718
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 7: And I think one of the things.

719
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Speaker 2: You look at great players and great players always have energy,

720
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 2: and Finley plays with an inordinate amount of energy. He

721
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 2: practices that way, he plays that way. And you know,

722
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 2: kid that when when I say he's a gym rat,

723
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 2: and you know all that stuff that people say, I mean,

724
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 2: the kid lives in the gym every night. He's back

725
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,439
Speaker 2: in hankle getting shots up. And I think the other

726
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 2: thing that happened for Findley is he started to understand

727
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 2: the game and he's thinking the game where he's slowing down,

728
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 2: he's reading situations better, and I'm just very, very happy

729
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 2: with the way he's playing right now.

730
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Speaker 4: Butler's at the Greenbrier. They've got a couple of big

731
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Speaker 4: ones here for that resume coming up tomorrow afternoon with

732
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Speaker 4: South Carolina and then again on Sunday. Here, coach, let's

733
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 4: go back to the SMU game, and it seemed like,

734
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 4: you know, obviously offensively, you guys put up a big

735
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 4: time number and made quite the rally there late in

736
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 4: that game and had an opportunity to even steal that

737
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Speaker 4: one on the road. What did you like what did

738
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Speaker 4: you not like about your performance against SMU?

739
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Speaker 2: Well, I think this, I thought we did a great

740
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 2: job of competing and and you know, I'm not faulting

741
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 2: that we didn't play hard. What got in that game

742
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 2: was the turnovers offensively that led too easy baskets for them.

743
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 2: And you know, our transition defense a couple of times

744
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 2: was not as sharp. But it's it's hard to have

745
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 2: a good transition defense when they're on a breakout, and

746
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,479
Speaker 2: I thought that was something. Uh, you know, rebounding down

747
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 2: the stretch was was not as good. I mean, I

748
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 2: think we're a really good rebounding team, but we gave

749
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 2: them a couple of easy ones off of the rebounds

750
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 2: and and uh uh but there was there were some

751
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 2: some good positives, but uh, just you know, it's one

752
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,720
Speaker 2: that I'd like to have that game back if I could.

753
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 2: But uh, you know, and as I told the guys

754
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 2: after the game, if we don't learn from this, there

755
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 2: will be a travesty. And we've had a good week

756
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 2: of practice leading into tomorrow's game, so so hopefully we'll

757
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 2: be uh, we'll be a better basketball team.

758
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Speaker 5: Coach, you've been doing this a long time and you

759
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 5: talk about, you know, not having losses linger or certain outcomes.

760
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 5: How do you know or do you just have to

761
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 5: wait until the next game to truly understand your team's

762
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 5: mental makeup. I get it still pretty early in the year.

763
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Speaker 2: Well you do in you know, especially nowadays with how

764
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 2: many new players you have every year and that sort

765
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 2: of thing. And I've told you, guys, da, I'm gonna

766
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 2: learn a lot about you here when we take the

767
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 2: floor on Friday, because we got knocked down and do

768
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 2: we Weland and they were playing a really, really good

769
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,399
Speaker 2: South Carolina team, so we got to have ourselves ready

770
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 2: to go.

771
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 5: And then to follow up to that on a different

772
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 5: I guess a little more positive note, Philly Bizjack got

773
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 5: a little homecoming of sorts going down to the SMU campus.

774
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 5: Grew up in Trophy Club, Texas, which I think is

775
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,919
Speaker 5: like something out of like a Friday Night Lights movie

776
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 5: or something like that, Trophy Club Texas, and it's in

777
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 5: real place. But how did he enjoy that environment and

778
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 5: just soak that up because you know, this kid puts

779
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 5: a lot into basketball and doesn't always get a chance

780
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 5: to see, you know, the hometown roots and things like that.

781
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think it was a great experience.

782
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 2: One funny thing is his brother had a football game,

783
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 2: played college football as a quarterback, and his mom going

784
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 2: to make it to the game. But I think he

785
00:36:55,920 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 2: still had like thirty family and friends there. And but

786
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 2: I think you know, he was as he told me,

787
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 2: I said, hey, he's still good to be home, he says,

788
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 2: coasts his business trip. I'll come back this summer and

789
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 2: do all that stuff. So Ken Koch where his mind.

790
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Speaker 3: Was, got to love that. I'm just curious now that

791
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 3: we're a couple of weeks in, is this team starting

792
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 3: to get its identity? Is it starting to kind of

793
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 3: feel like you know who this team is and what

794
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 3: they do yet?

795
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 2: Boy, I think so, But I but I don't know.

796
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 2: You know, there's just there's so many things that have

797
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 2: to continue to develop. And uh, you know, we got

798
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 2: to continue to play games and and and and see

799
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 2: how we grow. And you know, we got to get

800
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 2: guys more consistent. Uh, you got to get them, you

801
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 2: know where we know exactly what we're gonna get every

802
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 2: time we take the floor.

803
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Speaker 4: Okay, coming up at South Carolina tomorrow afternoon at the Greenbrier,

804
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 4: then Virginia on Sunday for Thad Models bunch. They try

805
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 4: to build this non conference resume. Coach, I'm not gonna lie.

806
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 4: I have not really had the West Virginia Greenbrier Resort

807
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 4: on the bucket lift. But I've always been intrigued of like, wow,

808
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 4: NFL teams have gone here for training camps, the PGA

809
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 4: Tours had events here, and now we get, you know,

810
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 4: one of these non conference tournaments. What is the resort

811
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Speaker 4: like the Green Buyer like this time of year?

812
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Speaker 2: You know what?

813
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: Nice old.

814
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Speaker 2: But you guys, ever see the movie A Shining Sure,

815
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 2: Oh boy, I think it may have been. I think

816
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 2: it may have been filmed here. You know, it's kind

817
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 2: of I think it was in Oregon, but it's kind

818
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 2: of got that feel to it. But in beautiful place,

819
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 2: beautiful resort, and I haven't seen a whole lot of

820
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 2: it yet. We got m yesterday afternoon and we actually

821
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 2: met at the staff for a few hours and had

822
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 2: filmed last night with the team. So maybe maybe if

823
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 2: I find some time, I'll get out.

824
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Speaker 1: And get around.

825
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 2: But it's uh, the wallpaper here is is very very unique.

826
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Speaker 2: If you guys are into that sort of stuff.

827
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Speaker 4: Interesting, inflict some shining on your opponents here, coming up.

828
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Speaker 1: Right exactly?

829
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Speaker 6: I like that.

830
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Speaker 3: Coach, always good to talk to. You will probably take

831
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Speaker 3: a week off for Thanksgiving next week, but We'll be

832
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 3: watching with great curiosity and hope as you play these

833
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 3: two teams this weekend. So good luck with that, all right,

834
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 3: appreciate you guys.

835
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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Before I let you go, though, all time favorite Western

837
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 3: star is thanks would NFL football coming up later on tonight,

838
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 3: Houston Texans and the AFC South taking on the Buffalo Bills.

839
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 3: Another potential playoff opponent for the Indianapolis culture right now,

840
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 3: so we'll be interested to see who does what with that.

841
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 3: But college football Indiana this week off, James. They get

842
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 3: ready to play their final regular season game of the

843
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 3: year against Purdue a week from tomorrow, and we're all

844
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 3: bucket for that. Yeah, that's where the bucket there. The

845
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 3: latest college football playoff rankings coming out a few days ago,

846
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Speaker 3: Ohio State number one, Indiana number two, Texas A and

847
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 3: M has moved up to number three. But I find

848
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 3: this interesting as everybody else in college football is trying

849
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 3: to either get into the playoff hunt or find their

850
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,760
Speaker 3: next coach. James Franklin gets announced at Virginia Tech yesterday.

851
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 3: Everybody wants to know what's going on with Lane Kiffin

852
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 3: and who's gonna end up where and who's going to

853
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 3: get the UCLA job, and is Eli Drinko's gonna leave Missouri?

854
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 3: Goes on and on and on. How nice is it

855
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 3: Kevin Bowen for Indiana to be secure in their head coach,

856
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 3: have him signed to a huge contract, as big as

857
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 3: anybody else is going to give him for a long

858
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 3: period of time, sitting there at number two, looking at

859
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:29,240
Speaker 3: probably a bye in the college football playoff and everything

860
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 3: is just set in stone for a while like that.

861
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,240
Speaker 3: Just when has that happened?

862
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: Well?

863
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 4: Never is probably the best way to put it. Yeah,

864
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 4: your biggest worry is how to get an affordable Big

865
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 4: Ten championship ticket and find out where exactly that quarterfinal

866
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 4: game is going to be, which site it'll be out there.

867
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Speaker 4: So yeah, times are definitely a change in Markiava's Fernanda

868
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Speaker 4: Mendoz on Kurtz Signetti, I thought this was really good.

869
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Speaker 4: Yesterday Again, we've seen Mendoza make kind of the media

870
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Speaker 4: rounds this week. They are building up the Heisman campaign.

871
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 4: He was on McAfee earlier this week. Yesterday he held

872
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 4: a zoom with plenty of different media outlets, and we

873
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Speaker 4: have known Mendoza to be, you know, certainly one of

874
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 4: the nicer individuals you'll ever hear and interview. And sure

875
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 4: he got nearly what three million from Indiana to come

876
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 4: play football there. That obviously was attractive. But I thought

877
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 4: him explaining in a little bit more detail Kurt Signetti's

878
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 4: relationship with him specifically during the recruiting process, because Georgia

879
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 4: wanted them, there are other schools that wanted him. I

880
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 4: thought that was really interesting to hear.

881
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 7: When I enter the transitport role, it was a little

882
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 7: bit of a whirlwind.

883
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 8: There was a couple of schools that I was heavily considering,

884
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 8: and it was a really tough decision. It was a

885
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 8: really tough decision, not only to leave the University of California, Berkeley,

886
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 8: but also to choose Indiana. And I would say a

887
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 8: big part of that decision was my little brother, because

888
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 8: he was able to tell me the good and the

889
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 8: bad of Indiana while trying to figure out the good

890
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 8: and the bad of these other schools. Not saying there's

891
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,439
Speaker 8: a lot of bad of these other schools or bad

892
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 8: at Indiana, just the overall pros and cons of each

893
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 8: situation there. I thought that the other schools, we're gonna

894
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 8: have fantastic teams and fantastic Alex in the season, however,

895
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 8: and that's what they sold me on.

896
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 7: Coach Signetti, on the other hand, sold me.

897
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 8: On being the best Forana Mendoza, that I can become

898
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 8: that no matter what happens, that I'm going to become the.

899
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 7: Best quarterback out of If I have a crystal ball

900
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 7: and I choose.

901
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 8: Every single school, or if I could see my future

902
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 8: at every single school, I you I'd become the best quarterback.

903
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 8: I don't know if we'd be the best team, but

904
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 8: I would be the best quarterback. And at that point,

905
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 8: that's all I can control. I can control as being

906
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 8: the best Forana Mendza quarterback and character that I can become.

907
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 8: And that's really sold me because that was my my

908
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 8: recent French in the transportal is wanting to develop, want

909
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 8: to take that next step and that next growth. And

910
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 8: so when he sold me on that, I knew that

911
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 8: it was a done deal. Especially with my brother being

912
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 8: here and be able to help me so much with

913
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 8: the offense, the lingo, the terminology and also just the

914
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:51,919
Speaker 8: whole aura in space of Bloomington as well, I thought

915
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 8: that it was a no brainer and it was. So far,

916
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 8: it's been a good decision, but need to keep on

917
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 8: proving that decision, right.

918
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 4: I think, you know, kind of the the die hard

919
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 4: I use fans will realize Signetti's history with quarterbacks is

920
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 4: quite impressive. Now, you know again when you're doing Elon

921
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 4: and you know, iup, it doesn't resonate on the national level.

922
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 4: But like even look at Curtis Rourke last year, very

923
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 4: accomplished Matt quarterback, but I don't think anyone expected him

924
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 4: to be necessarily a draft pick. Terra's aclen becomes a

925
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 4: draft pick. So that I think will continue to help

926
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 4: Indiana no matter what they decide to do quarterback wise

927
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 4: moving forward. You know, do they go with his younger brother,

928
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 4: do they go back into the portal Do they start

929
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 4: to have a little bit more of a recruiting pipeline

930
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 4: at the quarterback position from high schoolers? Here in Mendoz's

931
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 4: quote specifically about that, I think should only enhance Indiana

932
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 4: in attracting whatever the quarterbacks look like in the future,

933
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 4: whether it's all portal based or they start to, you know,

934
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:49,879
Speaker 4: get a little bit more of the you know, four

935
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 4: and five star quarterbacks.

936
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, one thing that will help with

937
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 3: all of that, and I go back to something we

938
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 3: talked about at the start of the show again. Now

939
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,240
Speaker 3: you have track record being built up at the highest

940
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 3: level for Kurt Signetti, which is fantastic. And he talked

941
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 3: about the pros and the cons and if Signetti can

942
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 3: connect with other kids the way that he kind of

943
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 3: connected with Mendoza there, that's terrific. But how cool is

944
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 3: it now to bring a kid on campus for a

945
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 3: visit in the atmosphere that I talked about on Saturday,

946
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 3: where there is reality meeting expectation, where there is not

947
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 3: an empty seat anywhere where ninety five percent of the

948
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,879
Speaker 3: crowd is Indiana and all the young kids are wearing

949
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 3: their candy stripe pants and all the other things are

950
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,720
Speaker 3: going on, and there's excitement and feeling in that building

951
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 3: which we haven't seen. Maybe we saw it for a

952
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 3: moment a few years ago, but really, this looks like

953
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 3: it's here to stay for a while.

954
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 4: I mean, it feels like we've never seen the environments

955
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 4: that you're alluding to there. So yeah, it's a different,

956
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 4: different world. I mean, Jeff, you know, James and I

957
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 4: talked about it on yesterday's show. Here in December, on

958
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 4: back back to back Saturdays, the IU basketball program will

959
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 4: play a neutral site game against Louisville and then they'll

960
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 4: go at Kentucky the next Saturday. Like for an IU

961
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 4: basketball fan, those are just awesome circle on the calendar,

962
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 4: non conference games, tons of history against those two programs,

963
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 4: et cetera, et cetera, And on both those Saturdays, an

964
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 4: IU fan will care more about football. They'll care more

965
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 4: about the Big Ten title game that will be on

966
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 4: that Saturday night when they play Louisville. Here, the night

967
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,399
Speaker 4: of IU at Kentucky at RUP is the same time

968
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 4: as the Heisman Trophy ceremony. They're gonna want to see

969
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 4: Ernanda Mendoza hoist that thing up and give a speech

970
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 4: that you know you'll have every mom say, can that

971
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 4: dude marry my daughter? With how nice and how just

972
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 4: friendly he seems all of that.

973
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 5: What I was thinking when he was talking, I trust

974
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 5: that guy to land a playing.

975
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 3: He's the one random dude that says it could do it.

976
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 5: He would be the greatest, Like substitute teacher.

977
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 4: He's the guy at row that won't fall asleep.

978
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 5: What you're saying, I feel you could just throw a

979
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 5: number of differ for random American jobs at the hell

980
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 5: World Jobs, and I would trust him.

981
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 3: That's like Andrew Luck.

982
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 4: We've decided, Yes, Banana Mendoza is going to be the

983
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 4: campus tour guide. Yes, and then he's also going to

984
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 4: land the plane.

985
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 5: And I should, I should. I'm in that, say, World Jobs,

986
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 5: you do have schools in other countries.

987
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: I'm sorry about that.

988
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 3: Don't have to apologize to us.

989
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 4: It's all good, all right, coming up in a moment, Mark,

990
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 4: by the way, Mark you maybe for next week, find

991
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 4: that Mendoza interview from yesterday and find him describing Perdue.

992
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 4: There is nothing better than the nicest human being in

993
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 4: the world. For Nando Mendoza trying to describe Perdue as

994
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 4: a good football team, it was one of the funnier

995
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 4: quotes that I've heard in it quite a while. So

996
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 4: find that clip and we'll say that for bucket wee.

997
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 3: He's just trying to pay proper respect, that's all.

998
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 4: It was so funny. God bless Mark you.

999
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 3: You're a very curious young man. Always all right, Well,

1000
00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 3: look forward to your questions coming up a moment here.

1001
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:01,919
Speaker 3: Ninety three five one oh seven five defin