1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: Well, that was an eventful day yesterday. 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 2: You were busy, weren't you. 3 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 3: Yesterday was why I don't do anything nice for anybody? 4 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 3: Say more words, Well, because I just this is always 5 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 3: what happens. I try to help people out and then 6 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 3: I end up just ruining my whole day. And I've 7 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 3: already made the commitment. And you know me, if I 8 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 3: commit to do it, there's no more loyal person than me. 9 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 3: If I commit to doing something for you, I will 10 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 3: do it. And so yesterday I went over to the 11 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 3: Indiana State House and I hang out with all the 12 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 3: freaks and lunatics and so against the districting bill. Now, you, Casey, 13 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 3: we're the real hero at all of this, because look, 14 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 3: I wouldn't have put So I was asked by the 15 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 3: people who are against redistricting. They said, look, we need 16 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 3: a little bo star power. We need somebody kind of 17 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 3: bring some attention to this. We need They didn't say 18 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 3: it like this, but they're like, we need some people 19 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 3: who know how to articulate the message in a fashion 20 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 3: that might resonate with the people and you know, making 21 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 3: the call in the shots right. And this is of course, 22 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 3: in front of the Senate Election Committee. They heard the 23 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 3: redistricting bill yesterday. We'll get to the outcome, which, by 24 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 3: the way, how good a mine? 25 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was amazing. You and I were texting last 26 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 2: night about that, and you said, I think it's going 27 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: to come down six to three. Lo, and behold, that's 28 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 2: what it was. 29 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 3: But not only did this, I think it was gonna 30 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 3: be six to three, I said, with very specifically who yeah, 31 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 3: and what they were going to say the three who 32 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 3: voted in favor, And I was exactly right, And we'll 33 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 3: get to that in a second. But they so they said, look, 34 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 3: will you go over there? 35 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: Will you? 36 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 3: Cause you got to speak in two minutes. You got 37 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 3: to look professionally all that. They're like, okay, fine, I'll 38 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 3: do it, and then like everything else in my like, oh, 39 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 3: it'll be quick. You'll be in fast, to be out fast. 40 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 3: It'll be fine. The things start an hour later than 41 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,279 Speaker 3: I was told. Yeah, I was there for two hours, 42 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 3: so by the time I was all in, it was 43 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 3: three hours. 44 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: To speak for two minutes. 45 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I was like, where where are you? When 46 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 2: are you talking? I'm watching this thing to hear what 47 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,559 Speaker 2: you had to say. And it just kept dragging on 48 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: and on. I mean, they were quick though, with the 49 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 2: two minutes fast on the buzzer, they were not letting 50 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: anyone go over. 51 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 3: One hundred and twenty seven people signed up to speak. 52 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 3: Now I did not. I was probably number fifty, so 53 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 3: I did not stay for the whole thing. By the way, 54 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 3: that's like the way it works is they you know, 55 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 3: they the person speaking, and then they announced the people 56 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 3: that are after, so you can get in line to 57 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 3: go in and speak. And I was told this, and 58 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 3: then I felt it in the room. Right, my name 59 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 3: goes up on the board and they say your name. 60 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 3: And Gaskell, the guy who's running the meeting who once 61 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 3: came on our show, and just he was the guy 62 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 3: who came on our show. He went from Munsie, right, 63 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 3: he came on the show and told us how against 64 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 3: property taxes he was now crummy the system was and 65 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 3: now he was going to fight to make the system better. 66 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 3: And then he voted for that abomination of a bill 67 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 3: on property. You remember him, So he's he's heading this 68 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 3: committee up and he is like a ghost had just 69 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 3: like walked right in front of him when he saw 70 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 3: the name and said it, And of course everybody else 71 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 3: perks up, and people were tweeting about it, and and 72 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 3: I go in there and it is like the boogeyman 73 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 3: had entered the room, right, And so look, it was 74 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,239 Speaker 3: overwhelmingly no the people who spoke. 75 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 2: The ninety nine people testified, eighty opposed, nineteen were in favor. 76 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 3: It's pretty good that only twenty eight didn't didn't stay 77 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 3: around as long as that thing went on, because I 78 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 3: mean it was like five or six hours of people's speaking, 79 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 3: So that's pretty good. So what it was eighty eighty 80 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 3: to nineteen. Okay, so again overwhelmingly knows. Just like every 81 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 3: other event, people have been overwhelmingly against us. Now the 82 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 3: yes side got to memo. So here's what's fascinating the 83 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 3: Yes side because basically nobody showed up to speak in 84 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 3: favor of the last time. So they convinced all the 85 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 3: what I call the usual suspects. It's people go to everything, 86 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 3: it's the same faces, it's never anybody knew. It's the 87 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 3: same six or seven niche people that are left that 88 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 3: still believe anything that comes out of the mouth of 89 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 3: Braun or Micah. They got those people to go speak, 90 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 3: and they got them there early enough on the sign 91 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 3: end because they usually go on how you sign in 92 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 3: that they came up basically right out of the gate, 93 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 3: and so the early reports were like, oh my gosh, 94 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 3: there's so many more yes people here than the last time, 95 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 3: and then by the time it was all done, it 96 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 3: was the usual like overwhelming. 97 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 2: No. 98 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 3: The other thing that was interesting is all of those 99 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 3: people that appeared then went to a meeting with Braun 100 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 3: and Micah. 101 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 2: After did they had some water and coffee? 102 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: Can you okay? 103 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 3: So can you imagine some of these people were, well, 104 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 3: they're driving down that's all they got at the residents. 105 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 2: Not even snickers the governor's mansion, not even. 106 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 3: A Snickers bar, okay. So A couple of things that 107 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 3: are fascinating about this to me. Number one the fact 108 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 3: that the sitting governor of the state of Indiana knows 109 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 3: his lieutenant governor is under grand jury investigation for multiple things, 110 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 3: Like it's irrefutable that's going on, and he is still 111 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 3: on the regular paling around with this guy, Like whatever 112 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 3: comes out of that, if it's anything, Braun can't do 113 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 3: the me so stupid me don't know routine because there 114 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 3: are multiple high profile events where he has been seen 115 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 3: arm in arm with Micah, the lieutenant governor whose office 116 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 3: is undergrand jury investigation right now, and Braun knows that 117 00:04:57,960 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 3: and he's still piling around with him. 118 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: That is fascinating to me. 119 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 3: But the other part of this is, can you imagine 120 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 3: if you're somebody from Fort Wayne, like I know some 121 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 3: of those people who are very mad at me. And 122 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 3: we'll get to that in a second two because one 123 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 3: of them said something to me yesterday. 124 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 2: But like you, you were popular. 125 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 3: You have to drive all the way down from Fort Wayne. 126 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 3: You have to be there for at least a couple hours, 127 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 3: even if you're speaking early. Get in line all too, 128 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 3: blah blah blah the other stuff. And your big reward 129 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 3: for that is coffee and water with them, with the 130 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 3: governor who is despised by our state and in his 131 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 3: stege assistant who is on whose office is under grand 132 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 3: jury investigation. 133 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: That's your big reward for ruining your whole day. 134 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, for some of those people, that is a 135 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 2: reward because they want to be elbow to elbow with power. 136 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 3: One of these people told me afterwards. They came up 137 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 3: to me and said, I'm very disappointed in you. Yeah, 138 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 3: And I looked at her and I said, get in line. 139 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: It's long. 140 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 3: You're going to be waiting a while and we'll talk 141 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 3: about some of that later. But anyway, so overwhelming people 142 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 3: against this. As you mentioned, I spoke Ethan Hatcher, who's 143 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 3: going to join us here in just a little bit. 144 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 3: Get his take on the day yesterday he spoke. 145 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 2: They said they wanted to wrap it up by six o'clock. 146 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 2: At seven point forty one, they were finally taking the vote. 147 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, went a little bit long. 148 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 3: So so ultimately, so I tweeted this out. I said 149 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 3: this to Casey, uh hours before they had the vote. 150 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 3: I said, here's what's going to happen, Casey, and oh gosh, 151 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,119 Speaker 3: darn it. It's nine to thirteen on what is today, 152 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 3: the ninth of December, and it's my least favorite part 153 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 3: of every show. We got to do it in the 154 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,239 Speaker 3: opening segment, which is where I have to tell everybody 155 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 3: how right I was. And did I not tell you? 156 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 3: I said, Casey, here's how this is going to go down. 157 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 3: The vote is going to be six to three in favor. 158 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 3: Three of them are going to say I'm voting solely 159 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 3: to move this forward for my fellow colleagues to be 160 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 3: able to vote on this. I am not committing to 161 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 3: committed to voting yes, and Casey. 162 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 2: Exactly what happened? What's exactly what? Yeah, the only Republican 163 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: to vote against the bill was Greg Walker, and you 164 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 2: had a couple of them, Rogers and Donados say that 165 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 2: they may change their vote on the Senate floor. Good 166 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:14,679 Speaker 2: said the bill needs more vetting. 167 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: Now. 168 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 3: Greg Good is the guy. This is what's disgusting about 169 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 3: all this. Greg Good is the guy from Tera HOAt 170 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 3: who had had a town hall and not a single 171 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 3: person showed up in support. Seventy people showed up to 172 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 3: speak against and he still is undecided. Dude, had it 173 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 3: been eighty to zero, would that have suaded you? This 174 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 3: is what pisses me off about all of this. You 175 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 3: guys could have killed this yesterday. Rogers was Rogers and 176 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 3: Donado are the two who voted not to come back back. 177 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 3: I think the other two who voted to move it 178 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 3: forward but to hear from their constituents. I think that's 179 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 3: how it went down. You voted not to come back 180 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 3: just a couple of weeks ago. Kill it and be 181 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 3: done with it. But they don't want to smoke. That's 182 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 3: why they did this. They don't want to be the 183 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 3: ones to have killed it. They didn't want the smoke. 184 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 2: So Senator Greg Walker he voted against it, and he 185 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 2: got very emotional at the end when they're taking the vote, 186 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 2: this is my favorite thing. They all want to comment 187 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 2: on the way they're voting. Sure, yes, here's how I'm 188 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 2: going to vote. But let me tell you why first. 189 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 2: And here's what he had to say. 190 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 4: Permission to explain my vote very briefly. One of those 191 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 4: who testify today asked me to I'll read it again. 192 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 4: I think this is a direct quote to shed my 193 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 4: sense of fairness. Is that the kind of advice you 194 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 4: would give your children, or your grandchildren, or your nieces 195 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 4: and nephews. 196 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 1: Oh Jesus crying. 197 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 4: I will not shed my sense of fairness. 198 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 2: I vote. 199 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 4: Thank you. 200 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: He's crying. 201 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 2: He was very emotional. He said the bill leaves no 202 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 2: room for wiggle and could be challenged in court. 203 00:08:55,920 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 3: But he was crying over a redistricting bill. No tears 204 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 3: for when people get screwed on property taxes. No tiers 205 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 3: when these utility bills rise every single year and are 206 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 3: pricing people out of being able to heat and cool 207 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 3: their homes. No tiers for the hundreds of millions in 208 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 3: corruption with the Indiana Economic Development Corporation. Money taken from 209 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 3: poor and middle class people, given to the uber connected 210 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 3: and squandered. 211 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: No tiars on that. But when these. 212 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 3: Guys get affected by something. 213 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: Get out of here. 214 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 3: Everybody was gross in all of this. 215 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 2: Casey, you're listening to Kendall and Casey. It's ninety three WYBC. 216 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 3: So you're telling me there's a theft problem in America. 217 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 2: Well, more shoppers admit to stealing from the self checkout. 218 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: That's crazy. 219 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 2: Twenty seven percent of shoppers admit they've intentionally stolen an 220 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 2: item at self checkout. That that is a twelve percent 221 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 2: increase from the same exact survey that was done two 222 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 2: years ago. Oh wow, what do you think there's stealing? 223 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: Well, how much is right? 224 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 3: Well, that's what I'm saying, Like, how much is really 225 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 3: available in the self checkout? I mean you got what 226 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 3: candy bars? Right or gum? 227 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 2: Well, it's items that in their shopping cars. 228 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: Oh, I see what you're saying. 229 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 3: They're saying, they're gonna say they peel for somebody out 230 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 3: of the self checkout. They're you're saying, they're saying not scanning. 231 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 3: You didn't scan something. Now I am hyper paranoid about this, 232 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 3: like because I it. 233 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 2: Is because the big camera right in front of it. 234 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 3: Honest, like anybody could actually when you're doing all this 235 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 3: stuff yourself and you're moving to da da da. I'm 236 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 3: sure it totally accidentally happens all the time, or somebody's 237 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 3: trying to, you know, put things in or I think 238 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 3: I scanned something or didn't register. Like there's no malicious 239 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 3: intent whatsoever. But I'm always hyper paranoid, like I check 240 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 3: every item because that's the last thing I need. Like 241 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 3: I didn't scan something properly. Rob Kendall goes down to 242 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 3: detain from stealing something from the Walmart. So I'm always 243 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 3: just very very paranoid. But so but there these people 244 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 3: are saying they they purposely didn't scan something right. 245 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 2: And then walk out the door, oh wow, yeah, with 246 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 2: it in their cart, or they'll just put it in 247 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 2: a bag without scanning it. And the surprising part about 248 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 2: this is it's not big ticket items. It's not like electronics. 249 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 2: It is essential items like food, water, and basic household 250 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 2: or health products. 251 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 3: There was an article this was a while ago, I'm 252 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 3: trying to remember where it was, but that stores were 253 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 3: pondering getting rid of the self checkouts again because of 254 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 3: the theft issue, and what they were losing in terms 255 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 3: of product and merchandise was offsetting or even more than 256 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 3: what they would have had to pay someone to run 257 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 3: these these registers. And now there's some stores and I 258 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 3: don't know if it's gotten any traction or not, but 259 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 3: some of these major stores are pondering going back to 260 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 3: the you stand in line and scan everything out. 261 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. Some of the stores are responding by restricting or 262 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 2: reducing these self checkout or the number of items. For example, 263 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 2: Target now has a ten item limit dollar General and 264 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 2: five below. They put in fewer self checkout lanes. Walmart 265 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 2: has removed some of the machines. Sam's Club now is 266 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 2: pushing their scan and go app instead of doing it 267 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 2: at the register. And the stores are increasing their video monitoring, 268 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 2: their staffing in some cases, and also AI systems now 269 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 2: to detect suspicious behavior. 270 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 3: This is a big deal because it's costing you money 271 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 3: every ounce of theft. The store doesn't eat it, they 272 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 3: pass it. 273 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 2: They're going to pass it on to you. 274 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: They pass it on to you. 275 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 3: So the more prevalent just becomes the more shrinkage, thank you. 276 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 3: The more prevalent this becomes the more you're going to 277 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 3: pay for stuff every time you go through the through 278 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 3: the to the grocery store. 279 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 2: So you have to wonder why are people stealing? Is 280 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 2: it just they're a holes to get their kicks. No. 281 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 2: Forty seven percent say that essentials are too expensive. 282 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 3: Well, okay, before you read the rest of this list, 283 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 3: let's just stop there. I guarantee you ninety five percent 284 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 3: of those people have an iPhone or equivalent, right, So 285 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 3: don't give me some sad story about how you can't 286 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 3: afford food when a lot of these people, I guarantee 287 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 3: have streaming services. 288 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: All the stuff. 289 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 3: They're nails done exactly. Yeah, Yeah, I don't buy that 290 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 3: for a second. I mean, I get that they may 291 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 3: give that as an excuse, but I don't buy that 292 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 3: that's the reality on the ground for a second. 293 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 2: So, forty six percent say that price increases are due 294 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 2: to tariffs. Thirty nine percent feel that prices are unfair 295 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 2: and too high. So there's a portion of people who 296 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 2: just want to stick it to the corporation. 297 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 3: But it's not the corporation causing the inflation. This is 298 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 3: what Look, I'm not on the side of corporation because 299 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 3: you know, I think they're trying to make as much 300 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 3: money as they possibly can at the expense of you, 301 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 3: And I think they're trying to get as much out 302 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 3: of their employees as they can at the expense of 303 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 3: the employee. But the price has been directly caused by 304 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 3: actions of our government, whether it's the magical money printing factory, 305 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 3: whether it's shutting down supply chains, whether it's now these tariffs. 306 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 3: Like the corporations. Walmart didn't just wake up one day 307 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 3: and if it were some big act Target or Meyer 308 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 3: or whoever, would immediately undercut them and take all their business. 309 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 3: Everybody's prices are rising because of all the stuff the 310 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 3: government has done, both Democrats and Republicans, and yet for 311 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 3: some reason people just refuse to vote better. But they 312 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 3: always complain about their circumstance where they're at and blame 313 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 3: everybody but the people that they've put in charge to 314 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 3: make these policies. 315 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 2: So sixty nine percent believe that self checkout makes it 316 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 2: easier to steal, and it does break down across gender. 317 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 2: Men are twice as likely to steal as women. Really, Yeah, 318 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 2: and of the people who say. 319 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 3: You did this study, who put this together, it always 320 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 3: fascinates me. 321 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: Who the who? The actual study is. 322 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 2: Lending Tree. 323 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, very good. 324 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 2: And of the people who have stolen in the past, 325 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 2: sixty one percent say they do it again. 326 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:20,359 Speaker 3: Have you ever gotten out of the store with something 327 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:22,479 Speaker 3: that you didn't pay for accidentally? 328 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 2: Because I guarantee it's not that I'm aware of, because 329 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 2: I'm pretty good at checking that, not only checking to 330 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 2: make sure that everything is scanned, but when I do 331 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 2: this self check out and put everything in the bags, 332 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 2: I always spin the wheel again to make sure that 333 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 2: I have picked up the bags. Yeah, you know, with 334 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 2: the items that I've put in because very much like you, 335 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 2: I would that would be the stupidest thing to go 336 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 2: down for. 337 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 3: And I wonder maybe somebody who is in this industry 338 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 3: because we have. 339 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 2: Co or somebody who's done it, well, yeah, or somebody 340 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 2: who's done let us know if you've shoplifted. 341 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 3: You don't need not give your name when you're if 342 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 3: you do that is there's some There has to be. 343 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 3: There's no way that if you paid for one hundred 344 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 3: and fifty dollars in groceries and you had some two 345 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 3: dollars and fifty cent jug of milk that you just 346 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 3: didn't scan. There's no way they called the cops on 347 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 3: you for that. So my question is, if you've been 348 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 3: a Victim's not the right word, but if you've had 349 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 3: this happen to you, do they. 350 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 2: What is the process like, let you go back in 351 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 2: and oops, oh let me just pay it? 352 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no It has to be relative to what 353 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 3: you're actually doing, right, I mean, there's no way you 354 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 3: would be an insane person to spend all this money 355 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 3: in groceries and then risk it on, you know, one 356 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 3: little thing. 357 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: There has to. 358 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 3: Be some some formula that they use to decide whether 359 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 3: they're going to go, hey, man, you I think you 360 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 3: forgot to pay for that versus going nine to one one. 361 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 3: You know, we've got a serial thief on our hands. 362 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 2: Well, according to the study, the people had that have stolen, 363 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 2: forty six percent have been caught and there are some 364 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 2: sociopaths doing it because thirty one percent say they don't 365 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 2: feel remorse. 366 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: Well, you'll love this. 367 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 3: When I worked at the State Auditor's office, so this 368 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 3: was years ago, one of the guys I worked with 369 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 3: had a part time job at I think it was Target, 370 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 3: but I don't know that for sure. I can't remember 371 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 3: his target or his kmart. But he had a job. 372 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 3: His weekend job was he worked in lost Prevention and 373 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 3: he would come in on Monday, you know, he'd work 374 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 3: there Saturday and Sunday and he was the eye and 375 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 3: the sky guy, right and he was this guy. 376 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 1: Was perfect for this. 377 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 3: He was totally cerebral about everything, very sharp, and he 378 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 3: would tell me these stories of what was stolen and 379 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 3: how they would catch people red hated. And then his 380 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 3: favorite part was he was not the guy that approached 381 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 3: them then. I think they had like an officer on 382 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 3: duty who then when they would do, okay, that person whatever. 383 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 3: And the excuses then because they take you back to 384 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:45,360 Speaker 3: some sort of not holding cell or whatever, but some 385 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 3: way that they, you know, try to. 386 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: Get you to fess up. 387 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 3: And the excuses that these people would give when they've 388 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 3: got him right on camera, he said, they were just, 389 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 3: I mean, the worst, but it was hilarious the stuff 390 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 3: they would try to come up with to explain stealing 391 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:00,239 Speaker 3: the st up. 392 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 2: So Ethan Hatcher from Saturday Night on the Circle was 393 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 2: over at the State House yesterday. He gave some testimony 394 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 2: in the redistricting hearing. 395 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 3: Oh yes, we stood next to each other the entire time, 396 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 3: and I thought it'd be fun because he gave a 397 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 3: very fabulous speech, far spirit of the one that I gave. 398 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 3: And I thought it'd be fun to have Ethan come 399 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 3: in give his perspective on, well, the freak show that 400 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 3: we saw yesterday. 401 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 1: We'll just call it what it is. 402 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 2: He'll join us next On ninety three WIBC. 403 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 4: I walked up the steps and I stood on. 404 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 2: A woman I didn't recognize. 405 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 5: Came a spool. 406 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, we started our show today. 407 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 3: It was a wild day yesterday at the Indiana State House, 408 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 3: and I wasn't alone in my misery. 409 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred and twenty seven people signed up to 410 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 2: give public testimony. You were one of them. You know 411 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 2: who else was one of them? 412 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 3: Our old pal, you know, from Saturday Night on the Circle, 413 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 3: Saturday night, seven o'clock here at WIBC, Ethan Hatcher. 414 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 1: He joins us. Now, Ethan Hatcher, Hello, thanks for having 415 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: me in the studio. Guys. 416 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 3: Okay, so you made the misery of yesterday a little 417 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 3: less miserable. You and I palled around for a couple 418 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 3: of hours as we waited to speak. I thought you 419 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 3: did a fantabulous job. 420 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 6: I appreciate that, Rob, but you know, you picked the 421 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 6: absolute worst spot for us to stand in the crowd 422 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 6: because we were right in the path of where people 423 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 6: were trying to squeeze through. I had folks bumping against 424 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 6: me every couple of minutes. We were all packed in 425 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 6: there like sardines. And I'll tell you what, those Democrats 426 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 6: stay That room smelled awful. The body odor was wafting 427 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 6: so thick you could cut it with a knife. 428 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 3: Okay, so I know we laid out a little bit 429 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 3: about what happened, but you're standing earlier, but you're standing 430 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 3: in this hallway out front the State House, the Senate 431 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 3: chambers in the state House. 432 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, they've got. 433 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 3: These speakers, but they're like little baby speakers, so you 434 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 3: can't hear anything. And they're supposed to be putting people's 435 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 3: names up on the screen because you can watch the thing, 436 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 3: but they're like two people behind. So you got to 437 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 3: keep asking the guy who's like the gatekeeper, and then 438 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 3: he's getting annoyed everybody for asking. It was a complete 439 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 3: dumpster fire, and so were many of the people and 440 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 3: either at numerous times looked at each other and go, go, 441 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 3: I hate that we're on the same side of these people. 442 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, because they're nuts. 443 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 6: Well, at one point I looked at you and I, 444 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 6: you know, kind of mock tore up my speech. I'm like, 445 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 6: you know what, I've changed my mind. I'm not supporting 446 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 6: you people. 447 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: Screw it. 448 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 2: And that was enough to do it while we were 449 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 2: questioning you know what would make someone change their mind, Ethan, 450 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 2: You did a good job when you were speaking in 451 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 2: front of the committee. You were, as far as I 452 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 2: can tell, the only person who got a compliment. 453 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think they were a little bit surprised. 454 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 6: I was able to squeeze all that in, but I 455 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 6: was using my broadcasting training to great effect. I almost 456 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 6: did it, Rob, I almost got all the way through. 457 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 6: I gave ninety nine point five percent of a speech, 458 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 6: but they cut me off halfway through the very very 459 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 6: last thing. 460 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 2: You nearly hit the post. 461 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 1: Yeah almost. 462 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 3: I cut a paragraph out of mind because I said, 463 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 3: I ain't given Gaskell the thrill of buzzing me or 464 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,719 Speaker 3: cutting me off that little backstabb Remember he was on 465 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 3: our show screaming about how bad property taxes were, and 466 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 3: then he voted for that abomination of a property tax. 467 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 3: Was said, Ah, hey, giving him the thrill, buzzing me 468 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 3: or cutting me off. I ended with two seconds to go. 469 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 3: All right, So obviously the three undecided's, as we predicted, 470 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 3: voted to move it forward. 471 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: Am I good? Or am I good? 472 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 2: You're good? 473 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: I told you exactly. 474 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 3: I said those three are going to vote for it. 475 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 6: But say they're not voting for it, Well, you know 476 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 6: why they did it, rob because they're not going down 477 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 6: with this shit. They're gonna get other people on the 478 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 6: record too. They're not gonna take all the. 479 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: Flak for that. 480 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 3: They didn't want the smoke the three deciders. Okay, so 481 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 3: let's talk just briefly about the approach that was taken 482 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 3: yesterday for the people who weren't able to be there. 483 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 3: I think these lefty people have no idea what they're doing, 484 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,360 Speaker 3: and the idea that you're going to be booing other 485 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 3: people while they're speaking, the idea that somebody has a 486 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 3: different opinion than you and you're just gonna be a 487 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 3: complete asked them you and I tried to tell a 488 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 3: couple of people with it, and they just weren't having 489 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 3: any of it. That works against you. These sentersre gonna 490 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 3: do what they're gonna do, and you kind of get 491 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 3: the sympathy on your side right now, and then you 492 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 3: sort of maybe veer people in another direction because you 493 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 3: can't help yourself. 494 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to read the room. 495 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 6: You got to play to your audience, and they're already 496 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 6: you know, they've got the popular side on this issue, 497 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 6: because anytime it's been pulled, Hoosiers are broadly against it. 498 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: Just let people speak. Everybody is allowed to speak. 499 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 6: Everybody is getting their two minutes to make their stance 500 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 6: known on this issue. All you gotta do is let 501 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 6: them get through it. I mean, for a lot of 502 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 6: these folks, I think it's a profession. It's arts and 503 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 6: crafts time. 504 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 2: You know. 505 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 6: They brought out their little their little art projects and 506 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 6: their little scrawls and their permanent marker, and that's what 507 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 6: it was all about. It's about me, me, me, not 508 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 6: about what's actually going on. 509 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 2: That's something that I noticed as I watched all of 510 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 2: that testimony. 511 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 3: Casey is the real hero and all of this, because look, 512 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 3: I would sat through three seconds to watching that if 513 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 3: we hadn't been there, and she sat through the whole 514 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 3: until the vote. 515 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 2: I know, which happened at seven forty one last night. 516 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 2: But I noticed quite a few things with the people 517 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 2: that are against the redistricting came from a lot of NGOs, nonprofits, 518 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 2: and quite a few had trumped arrangement syndrome. Is that 519 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 2: way you were picking up when you were in the 520 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 2: vestibule waiting area. 521 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: Oh, I think that is a fair assessment. Casey. 522 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 6: Anytime, it was real easy to read which of the 523 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 6: speakers were pro redistricting and which were Again, I could tell. 524 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 2: And this stuffed up to the to the podium as well. 525 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 6: Well, mostly because of the response from the crowd. Like I, 526 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 6: you know, I'm as blind as a bat rob. He 527 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 6: has good eagle eyed vision, but I can't even read 528 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 6: the close captioning on. 529 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: The big screen. 530 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 6: But I didn't need to because the crowd would inform 531 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 6: me based. 532 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 1: On their booze and jeers. 533 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 2: Now you had mentioned I don't like being on the 534 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 2: same side of an issue with the people because you 535 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 2: had this experience yesterday. Does that sway you at all? 536 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 2: Does that make you go, oh, you know what, maybe 537 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 2: it should be nine to zero? 538 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: No, No, not at all. 539 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 6: I was I was just joking because I think the 540 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 6: important thing is to stand for the principle of our 541 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 6: principles of our countries founding and if you don't have standards, 542 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 6: then what do you have. 543 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 3: Ethan Hatcher, Saturday n on the Circle is our guest. 544 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 3: He braved the elements yesterday spent several hours with me 545 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 3: at the State House. My favorite part of the whole 546 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 3: day yesterday, Casey was Ethan and I. Though we were 547 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 3: signed up at the same time, somehow ended up like 548 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 3: twenty people apart. And Ethan speaks and he's like, have 549 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 3: a good day, see you. 550 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: And I was loved to be there by my lonesome 551 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: around these people. 552 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 6: I want to well, I told you, hey, they stay. 553 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 6: I wanted to get away from the body owner b 554 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 6: I had to go to the grocery store before I 555 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 6: had a showing in the evening because I had work 556 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 6: to do. 557 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 2: Rob. 558 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: I'm a working man, all right. 559 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 3: If you had to predict, because I genuinely have no 560 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 3: idea how that's going to go up or down on redistricting, 561 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 3: what do you think if I had to call it, 562 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say down real because the Senate had already 563 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 3: came out against this, and if they continue to support it, 564 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 3: then they're essentially validating the scare tactics of all these 565 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 3: swatters of the violent mob, and I just don't think 566 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 3: we can have that in. 567 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 1: A civil society. Now, maybe I'm wrong. 568 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 6: Maybe these senators are all cowards and they're just gonna 569 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 6: bend the knee because they don't want to take the 570 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 6: flag for going on public record. Maybe that's the secret 571 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 6: sauce here that's going to sway the vote. But I 572 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 6: think it will squeak by with a no. 573 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 3: That's my guess, Casey. You'll love this. So I obviously 574 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 3: know many many people in the state House. They don't 575 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 3: maybe proudly know me, but in quiet corners I was 576 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 3: able to talk to several of them yesterday. There was 577 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 3: a very known lobbyist yesterday who I was talking to. 578 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 3: I said, so, like, how's it going. He goes horrible. 579 00:25:56,080 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 3: He said, nobody's paying any attention to anything until this 580 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 3: thing gets decided. And that's money for those guys. So 581 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 3: they're honked off because nobody's paying attention to things that 582 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 3: they need to move forward for their clients to get paid. 583 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 2: Oh am, I supposed to feel bad for the lobbyists. 584 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: Now, the other thing you'll love, Miss Violin. 585 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 3: Well, the other thing somebody told me yesterday is they 586 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 3: said one of the things these old timers are doing. 587 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 3: These people have been there since the earth was young. 588 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 3: They figured out these committee heads or whatever, that nobody's 589 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 3: paying attention. They're trying to slip all these bills through 590 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 3: now in these other committees because there was a whole 591 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 3: bunch of business going on yesterday and nobody was paying 592 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 3: attention to any of. 593 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:34,959 Speaker 1: It because everything was focused on redistricting. 594 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 3: Now, getting something out of committee doesn't mean it's going 595 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 3: to get approved, doesn't mean it's gonna if it passed 596 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 3: the Senate, pass the House. But these wily old veterans 597 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 3: are like, well, nobody's paying any attention. Nobody to come, bitch, 598 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 3: let's put this bill for it. I've wanted for twenty years. 599 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:48,679 Speaker 3: Weren't we kind of joking about that? 600 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 6: I wonder who's showing up outside of Room one point 601 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 6: thirty for the Agriculture Committee. 602 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: You know, if they got as big of a crowd, 603 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 1: doubt it. 604 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 2: I'm curious, did you notice any difference with the presence 605 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 2: of the national media being there. 606 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 6: No, No, you could barely tell who was credential media. 607 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 6: Most of the credentialed media was inside the chambers, so 608 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,199 Speaker 6: it didn't really register to me who was active media 609 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 6: until after I had gotten done speaking at the podium, 610 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 6: and then a few of them approached me for comment 611 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 6: or how do you spell your name? Stuff like that, 612 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 6: and then then it's like, ah, media. 613 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 2: Did you feel that Gasca was talking directly to the 614 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 2: two of you when he was laying out the rules 615 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 2: of cheering? 616 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: Oh? 617 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we were. 618 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,360 Speaker 1: We are our buddy Joe. 619 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 3: My buddy Joe was there too and a big fan 620 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 3: of our show and was at the property tax rally. 621 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 3: We were by far the best behaved people. We were 622 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,719 Speaker 3: the ones because we know how to operate in decent society. 623 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 3: So news flash, if you're on the left and you 624 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,199 Speaker 3: hear this, look But by the way, my favorite thing 625 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 3: was when I got in there was rucus applause and 626 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 3: I walked out the laugh and going you people would 627 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 3: hate everything I stand for. 628 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, I agree on this one, you know exactly. 629 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 3: But the lefty people, you got to get your act together, 630 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 3: like you cannot be behaving like lunatics. That is not 631 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 3: going to sway these people one way or another. You're 632 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 3: gonna be far more effective just being calm and rational 633 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 3: and saying your piece and then going home. 634 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, listen to Rob speech. I mean he was uncharacteristically 635 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 6: well behaved. That's why I was very impressed. Now, what 636 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 6: do you have to do? Do you pop a zany take 637 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 6: a couple of melatonin? 638 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 3: Well, god, I know we got to go here. But 639 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 3: Casey were talking about this earlier to start the show. 640 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 3: I had two ways I could go was the fork 641 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 3: and the proverbial fork in the road. I could have 642 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 3: just spent two minutes roasting those people, which in hindsight 643 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 3: I kind of wish i'd done now, But next time, 644 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,199 Speaker 3: I talked to some people that are in the know, 645 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 3: and they said it would be far more effective for 646 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 3: you to use logic and kindness and really wow them 647 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 3: that you because some people think I am just a 648 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 3: raving lunatic twenty four hours a day, seven days a week, 649 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 3: and I think I totally confused everybody. 650 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 2: The one thing that impressed me both about the two 651 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 2: of you, Ethan you stuck to kind of a historical 652 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 2: perspective with the founding fathers, and Rob you stuck to 653 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 2: the policy that wasn't the case with everybody who testified. 654 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: Ethan Atcher Saturday Nights w IBC, Thank you, Thank. 655 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 2: You, You're listening to Kennilly Casey. It's ninety three WIBC. 656 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: I don't know what planet Dave Ramsey's living on, but 657 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 1: it is not Earth. 658 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 2: He was on Fox News and he was saying that 659 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 2: Donald Trump's economy is lifting the middle class again, and 660 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,719 Speaker 2: he went on to say that there is not an 661 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 2: affordability crisis. 662 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 5: Greats are down and gas prices are down below three 663 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 5: dollars in most places. The economy seems to be. The 664 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 5: people we're talking to are really not having huge, serious 665 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 5: affordability problems. There's a lot of talking heads, a lot 666 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 5: of squawking about that, but most of that's political. 667 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 3: Okay, I guess I'm a talking head, but I also 668 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 3: shop at the grocery store. I live a pretty middle 669 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 3: class existence boat. My wife and I both make decent money, 670 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 3: but by no means rich. I live in a sixteen 671 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 3: hundred square foot ranch house on a third of an acre. 672 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: Right. 673 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 3: I drive a car that has no power, locks or windows. 674 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 3: I live a pretty, you know, live low life, right 675 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 3: in terms of I'm comfortable. I have a television, heat, 676 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,719 Speaker 3: air conditioning, a house, and can provide for my family. 677 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 3: But I'm not living the high life, and I will 678 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 3: tell you it is a swift kick in the junk 679 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 3: anytime you try to buy anything. And he sounds just 680 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 3: totally out of step with reality. 681 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 2: Well, you have to keep in mind that Dave Ramsey 682 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 2: completely owns his broadcast company and in twenty eighteen his 683 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 2: net worth was fifty five million dollars, so you are 684 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 2: living a different existence. 685 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: And I mean, God bless him. 686 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 3: He's made his money, honestly, and good for him, and 687 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 3: by all accounts, he's helped a lot of people, which 688 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 3: is great. But I'm sorry the middle class who And 689 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 3: by the way, the gas price stuff is what gets me. 690 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 3: Gas prices are down not because if anything Trump's done, 691 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 3: it's because the economy is restricting. 692 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: The economy is war is worse off. 693 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 3: There's not a demand for oil for gasoline like there 694 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 3: has been, and thus if there's not a demand for something, 695 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 3: we know, the price goes down, right, which great. 696 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: You and I have jobs right now. We work in radio. 697 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 3: Who knows tomorrow, but we have jobs, so that benefits us, right. 698 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 3: It's cheaper for us to get to and from work. However, 699 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 3: other people it's horrible because they don't have jobs to 700 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 3: be able to afford to buy the gas to go 701 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 3: to work, like it. 702 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: Just food, rent. 703 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 3: All of this stuff is more expensive, and wages are 704 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 3: not rising in accordance with the price of everything. 705 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 2: CBS News just came out with an article just moments 706 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 2: ago and they said that more than seventy five percent 707 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 2: of homes across the country are unaffordable. But Dave Ramsey 708 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 2: said that America's finally breathing again under real leadership. It's 709 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 2: only going to get better from here. One of the 710 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 2: pieces of advice that he says he can always tell 711 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 2: when a family is going to stay middle class is 712 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 2: when they have two expensive cars sitting in front of 713 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 2: a middle class home, often with big monthly payments. He said, 714 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 2: more cars equals more bills. You consider insurance prepares, gas depreciation, 715 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 2: and ideally what you want to have is no more 716 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 2: than fifty percent of your income tied up in depreciating 717 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 2: assets like cars. 718 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 3: And look, I agree with all that, but the reality 719 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 3: is you got to have give people something to look 720 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 3: forward to right now. If you got two Mercedes out there, 721 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 3: and you know your combined household income is one hundred 722 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 3: thousand dollars, then maybe yeah, you're going to be going 723 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 3: to be pressing it but I mean, come on, I mean, 724 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 3: what are we talking about nice cars? 725 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 2: Right? 726 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 3: I mean what a lot of people have SUVs or whatever. 727 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 3: You spend a ton of time in your car. It's 728 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 3: like making your house dice. It's where you live, right. 729 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 3: I just like, we shouldn't have to be making these 730 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 3: choices in this country. We should have to be choosing 731 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 3: between you know, do this or do that. That's just 732 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 3: not the way it's supposed to work. I had a 733 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 3: fascinating conversation at the property or the property tax the 734 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 3: distorting rally yesterday. Some woman told me she was very 735 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 3: disappointed in me. 736 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you want to tell me more? 737 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: Would you like to tell me? Would you like me 738 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: to tell you? Responsored to become back. 739 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 2: Yes, It's Kendall and Casey on ninety three WYBC