1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: You're listening to The Hammer and Nigel Show. 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 2: Getting closer and closer to a brand new year, which 3 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 2: means this is the time of the season we take 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 2: a look back. 5 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: It's the Hammer and Nigel Show. 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 3: I'm Jason Hammer, Big Nige's out, Guy Reelford's filling in 7 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 3: and join us in studio from the WIBC newsroom. 8 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: The Lovely John at Cruse. How are you? 9 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 4: I'm good, how are you? 10 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 3: They're not booing, they're saying crews. So today, tomorrow and Wednesday, 11 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 3: you're doing a little three piece exclusive on our program 12 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 3: looking back at the biggest. 13 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: Stories of the year. 14 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 3: Now tomorrow we'll focus nationally. We'll do some pop culture 15 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 3: entertainment stuff on Wednesday. But today it's the five biggest 16 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 3: stories to happen here in Indiana. 17 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 4: Yes, and I said this during commercial break. 18 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 5: I couldn't believe it that our five local stories are 19 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 5: national stories. 20 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 4: True crazy to. 21 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: Me, made headlines all over the country, so I'm not. 22 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 5: I didn't order this in any specific order, however, just 23 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 5: more chronological order as the year progressed. So the first 24 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 5: thing I do want to mention is obviously the passing 25 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 5: of Jim Ersay. He passed away at the age of 26 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 5: sixty five. Back on May twenty first. 27 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 3: I remember that I was at the ac DC concert 28 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 3: in Nashville with one of my sons and were in 29 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 3: between bands. The opening act had just finished and kind 30 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 3: of scrolling on our phones, and my phone started blowing up. 31 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,839 Speaker 3: Ersay died, ersa died. I thought it was a hoax, 32 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 3: like some sort of AI thing, but no, it was. 33 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 1: It was legit. 34 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a really big deal. 35 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 5: And then I actually went to the Colts game. It 36 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 5: was back on September seventh, when they honored him as 37 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 5: well into the Ring of Honor, And so I thought 38 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 5: that halftime was just absolutely amazing and just the energy 39 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 5: that you felt in there and for how the city 40 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 5: just absolutely loved and adored him. 41 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 3: And there had been some rumors about the health of 42 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 3: Jim long before he officially passed, but it looked like, 43 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 3: at least in terms of the public perception, you know, 44 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 3: things were going to be okay. 45 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: Maybe the worst was behind him. 46 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 3: You know, there was that interview he did or he 47 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 3: talked about how he almost died at his house one 48 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 3: night and paramedics had to arrive. But then when we 49 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 3: found out that Jim Mersey did indeed pass away, it 50 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 3: was still sad. Like a lot of people thought, well, 51 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 3: it's not surprising he did some hard living. 52 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: But for what he's done to the community, the. 53 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 3: Charities and all that kind of stuff, say what you 54 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 3: want about Jim, but he cared about Indianapolis. 55 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 1: See. 56 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 6: And that's why I was really excited about the coverage, 57 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 6: or at least maybe relieved is a better word than excited, 58 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 6: because with the struggles that he did have in his 59 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 6: personal life and with his health and even yes, with addiction, 60 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 6: the coverage that I thought immediately after he passed was 61 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 6: really focused where it should be, which is we're on 62 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 6: his contributions to the community. What he really meant, not 63 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 6: just to the cults, but to this whole city and 64 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,239 Speaker 6: to a lot of excellent causes that he supported. I 65 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 6: really liked the way that ended up getting portrayed, including 66 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 6: at the national level. 67 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, I agree too. It was some good, good 68 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 4: things that were put out. 69 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 3: Now, if we're doing chronological order here, I just again, 70 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 3: I remember where I was when I heard about Jim Ursay. 71 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 3: Also taking place that night was a very high profile 72 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 3: Indiana Pacers game against the New York Knicks, and that 73 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 3: happened to be. I think the same night where Haliburton 74 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 3: hit the three that bounce us up, bounces up and 75 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 3: finally goes down he gives the choke signal. I assume 76 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 3: the Pacers run is probably number two on the sea. 77 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 4: Yes, it is on this list. It is number two. 78 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 5: And I was actually at the watch party when we 79 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 5: were doing Game seven and I was at Gainbridge, and gosh, 80 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 5: when he just fell to the ground like you could 81 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 5: it was the silence was deafening and the faces of 82 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 5: everybody just watching it all on their screens and we 83 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 5: just stood there like, oh my gosh. 84 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 3: Because the Pacers came out smoking. Haliburton came out smoking, 85 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 3: on fire. They were going to win that game. 86 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 6: That was going to be our game, no question. 87 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 3: It was absolutely Pacers were not scared, they were ready, 88 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,839 Speaker 3: and the basketball gods just kicked us right in the crotch. 89 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: John in steel toe boot right to Big Gym and 90 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: the Twins. 91 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 4: John, Oh, it was the worst. I was so sad. 92 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 3: So we're doing the top five biggest stories in Indiana 93 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty five. 94 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: What else is on your list? 95 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 4: All right? Number three? 96 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 5: I got Mark Sanchez on October three when he was 97 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 5: arrested for that awful incident. 98 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 1: I was a day after my birthday. 99 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 3: It could have been downtown the same time as Mark 100 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 3: Sanchez Shenanigans were taking place, wow. 101 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: And Sanchez was still celebrating. 102 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 4: Yes, he he went hard that night. 103 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: Apparently we have an update on Mark Sanchez today. 104 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 4: Yes, exactly. 105 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 5: So now Fox Corporation is trying to move the civil 106 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 5: lawsuit to federal court instead of handling it in the state. 107 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 5: And so what I've gathered from, you know, seeing what's 108 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 5: coming out of the news outlets and everything else today 109 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 5: is because of the whole reasoning on they don't they 110 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 5: feel as though they might have some sort of bias 111 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 5: in the state of Indiana when it comes to the 112 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 5: civil lawsuit. 113 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 4: That was one of the reasons. 114 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 5: And then they I guess in they're thinking for a 115 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 5: federal lawsuit, everything might go a little bit quicker instead 116 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 5: of the criminal lawsuits or the trial that's going to 117 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 5: be taking place, and I believe it's in March, I'm 118 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 5: not mistaken. And then possibly the payout might be differently. 119 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 5: I think there's a lot of variables. You can probably 120 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 5: speak into that a little bit more. 121 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, if you're defending a big time lawsuit in county 122 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 6: court state court, but it's filed obviously through the county system. 123 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 6: You'd much rather be in federal court for a variety 124 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 6: of reasons. First of all, your Drew pool comes out 125 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 6: comes in throughout the entire district, not just Marion County 126 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 6: or Hamilton County or wherever you might be filed. The 127 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 6: protections tend to be much higher in terms of discovery 128 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 6: and any number of different pre trial issues you're going 129 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 6: to leading up to that. So typically in a big 130 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 6: time lawsuit, you always want to be in federal court 131 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 6: if you possibly can be. Got a couple of minutes 132 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 6: left here, what's number four? 133 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,119 Speaker 5: Number four is the White Town shooting that took place 134 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 5: in November, so we know that that went huge national 135 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 5: International is. 136 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 3: Where the individual thought he'd heard a noise, thought he'd 137 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 3: heard somebody breaking in, fired shots, ended up being a 138 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 3: cleaning lady who was lost. Might not have spoke English. 139 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 3: Now the elephant in the room is guy. We know 140 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 3: this is your clients. We know you can't really talk 141 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 3: about this situation, but sure it's no secret you've mentioned 142 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 3: to us that is your client. 143 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 1: Here. Is there any updates on a timeline here. 144 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 6: Well, no, we've got a court appearance in February and 145 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 6: right now a March trial date. I can say that, 146 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 6: but it's unlikely that March trial date will hold as 147 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 6: a first setting. There's a lot to do in that case. 148 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 6: But one thing that you know, as in any case, 149 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 6: people just need to keep an open until they hear 150 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 6: all the evidence. 151 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 5: Right. And number five, number five redistricting decade. 152 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 4: Redistricting. 153 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 5: That was like the topic for the entire second half 154 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 5: of the year. I feel like, well, probably started way 155 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 5: before then, but man. 156 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 3: What's property tax ended? And we ended up getting the 157 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 3: shaft on that. We had to wait for the news storyline, 158 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 3: which was going to be the changing of the congressional math. Gosh, 159 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 3: because I have a hard time saying redistricting, so I 160 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 3: always say the changing of the math. 161 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 4: Great. 162 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 5: The amount of times I had to re record myself 163 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 5: doing a news story because of that word is absolutely insane. 164 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 5: And I tell you from the news perspective in the 165 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 5: newsroom side, every time there was an update and every 166 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 5: time we got an email, we were all just like, 167 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 5: oh my gosh, what now, what do we have to 168 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 5: change now? What's coming in now? It was just constantly 169 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 5: it was always something something different coming down the pipeline 170 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 5: where we have to continue to update everybody on. 171 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 3: So well, Johnette, you'll join us again tomorrow and we'll 172 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 3: look at the top five national stories. 173 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 4: Here we go, Top five National Johnette. 174 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 3: Cruise from the WIBC news Room. Make sure you follow 175 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 3: her on all of the social media channels. 176 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you,