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Speaker 1: All right, so the toys getting tossed on the floor

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Speaker 1: the WNBA game is becoming an epidemic, and well.

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Speaker 2: This is just perfect for you.

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Speaker 1: Hammer Jason Hammer, co host of the Hammer in Nigel

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Speaker 1: program Afternoons.

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Speaker 2: You're on WIBC.

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Speaker 3: Hello, is that real that you can bet on which

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Speaker 3: color the next one will be? I've seen some things

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Speaker 3: on social media, but I didn't know if that was

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Speaker 2: He did?

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Speaker 1: Clay Travis put it out and said that you can

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Speaker 1: now bet on what color the next item thrown on

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Speaker 1: the WNBA court will be.

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Speaker 3: And because if that's real, don't hear me out here.

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Speaker 3: I never condone throwing anything onto the court tonight.

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Speaker 2: You should not do that.

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Speaker 3: But if this is a real thing you can bet.

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Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you come up with some sort of plan

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Speaker 2: to sneak in the long shot? Color?

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Speaker 3: I think it's blue, and whether it be yourself or

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Speaker 3: somebody that you're with, have them chuck it onto the court. Right,

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Speaker 3: you can fix it, and you could fix it and

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Speaker 3: make a big amount of money.

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Speaker 1: Well, I saw somebody, and this is where the Internet

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Speaker 1: is both the best and worst humanity.

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Speaker 2: Has to offer.

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Speaker 1: Some person did the math on what your legal fees

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Speaker 1: because I think green was like fourteen to one, and

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Speaker 1: he said if you went green, and they did the

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Speaker 3: And it was a five thousand dollars max on how

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Speaker 3: much you could bet.

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Speaker 1: Right, so how much you would make versus what your

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Speaker 1: legal fees would be. Because let's face it, they're not

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Speaker 1: going to send you to sing sing right over this,

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Speaker 1: but you might get a fine. They said that you're

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Speaker 1: And so of course some guy did the math and

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Speaker 1: it was some you know whatever that is, whatever five

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Speaker 1: thousand times fourteen is, is that seventy thousand dollars, Well,

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Speaker 1: your legal fees ain't going to be anywhere close to that.

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Speaker 3: You just you know, you're going to profit around like

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Speaker 3: sixty eight sixty nine thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: That's a favor. That's if they catch you. That's even

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Speaker 2: if they even if they catch you. So and let's

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Speaker 2: be honest here in Marion County, there.

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Speaker 3: Are dudes out there that have exposed themselves thirty plus times.

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Speaker 2: We have the story of the lewd new dude in the.

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Speaker 3: News who'd been arrested thirty nine times here, So it

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Speaker 3: doesn't feel like they're trying to make an example out

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Speaker 2: The WNBA.

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Speaker 1: The bigger problem is, and again, nobody should ever throw

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Speaker 2: You should not do this.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully the people get caught whatever, But a couple things

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Speaker 1: with this Number one, it really is a bad look

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Speaker 1: for the WNBA because they're always fighting that people don't

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Speaker 1: actually take us serious. There's a player people take serious.

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Speaker 1: And now you've got the lady's wig falling off, and

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Speaker 1: talk about are we allowed to call it what it is?

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Speaker 1: Can we say the D word?

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Speaker 3: I've heard other people say, Okay, dildo's being thrown on

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Speaker 3: the court is not anything new though. Buffalo Bills fans

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Speaker 3: Some people thought about almost as a celebration.

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Speaker 1: As a celebration, Yeah, Bill's fans backed me up here.

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Speaker 3: Just a rowdy fan thing.

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Speaker 1: But the other problem you've got and our old friend

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Speaker 1: are sorry, Ben, You are in the environment of which

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Speaker 1: So you know, it's like being the valedatorian of Summer

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Speaker 1: the other things, and we were pondering, like, how do

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna.

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Speaker 3: Put my marketing pants on here because I've been a

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Speaker 3: ten years from now, somebody's going to write a book

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Speaker 3: on how bad the WNBA handled the Golden Goose situation

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Speaker 3: of Caitlyn Clark.

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Speaker 3: Look back and say, we had somebody that had the

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Speaker 3: we play in bigger venues. We could probably sell more

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Speaker 3: We beat the hell out of her. We kicked out

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And we were talking to the bartender because they said, like,

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Speaker 1: They have had people who have made what in hindsight

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Speaker 1: And one person was coming from some multi state travel

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Speaker 3: So that's I mean, that's a gamble sports fans.

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Speaker 2: Players play, they get hurt, whatever.

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Speaker 1: But when like, if you buy a ticket to, you know,

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Speaker 2: But you're still seeing.

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Speaker 3: But that's a basketball issue, right, That's the only league

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Speaker 3: past year, look at the men's the NBA. Golden State

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Speaker 2: Gifts to go see.

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Speaker 3: Right, if you have a son or a daughter that

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Speaker 3: Curry was fine, but he was in street clothes and

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Speaker 1: And you read the stats on because people were like,

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Speaker 1: that was he said, look, people buy this ticket to

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go out there and I'm gonna play. If

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Speaker 3: And with Caitlyn, what I've seen with her is I

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Speaker 1: I think we talked about this last week that somebody

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Speaker 2: That's part of it, right, see the best of the

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Speaker 1: And when you watch a w NBA game and I'm

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Speaker 1: you know, I can you know I can miss layups.

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Speaker 1: Now she grabbed the rebound and put the rebound back

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Speaker 3: Right, it becomes more civic pride than anything else. Do

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Speaker 3: you want your city, your team to win. And when

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Speaker 3: you go to the game, it's kind of a bonding thing. Right, Hey,

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Speaker 3: it's Indy, We're here, it's sold out. Go Fever let's go.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, they got to get number twenty two back

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Speaker 3: and the league has to accepted.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of civic bonding, what are we civically bonding over

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Speaker 1: with Hammer Nigel?

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Speaker 2: This afternoon Nigel is out.

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Speaker 3: Oh well that's he knew my voice wasn't perfect, so

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Speaker 3: he said, I'm going to call in today.

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Speaker 2: We'll see how the big show sounds. Guy Ralford's gonna

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Speaker 2: be great.

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Speaker 3: He's filling in Monday, gun Day, so let's have a

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Speaker 3: good time. Thanks Hammer.

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Speaker 1: It is Kennelly Casey on ninety three WYBC