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Speaker 2: Last night.

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Speaker 1: Impressive win for the Fever when Kelsey Mitchell continues to

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Speaker 2: What's the over under on the number of pumpkin spice

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Speaker 2: So you got them at three wins. Of course we

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Speaker 2: I could see them losing. You know, twenty and a

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Speaker 1: If if you think the Colts nine and twenty two

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Speaker 2: Home against Old Dominion, win home against Kannessas State, when

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Speaker 1: Black will go over whether or not we are under

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Speaker 1: I'll get right to this question, and that is, do

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Speaker 5: If you could see me right now, Jake, you'n see

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Speaker 3: Buddy, Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I wish I knew. I wish I could tell you

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Speaker 5: You know, Coach Odin was gracious with his access during camp.

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Speaker 5: We could watch all the practices, but you know, you

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Speaker 5: So that's coming soon enough. It's going to be a

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Speaker 1: Okay, how about this because I totally agree with you

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Speaker 2: They're not going to wow you with.

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Speaker 1: This is not Joe Tiller coming in with an offense

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Speaker 1: an idea We don't know how good they're going to

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Speaker 1: we have a better idea of what brand of football

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Speaker 5: I think you kind of hit the nail on the head. Hard,

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Speaker 5: smart and tough, and anybody who's heard Bury them speak

435
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Speaker 5: knows that's his mantra, hard, smart and tough. When we

436
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Speaker 5: talked to him in the seven shortly after he was hired,

437
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,199
Speaker 5: he mentioned that he wants to run the football and

438
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Speaker 5: me physical, So no shock there. I think that fits

439
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:11,360
Speaker 5: his personality. He's a defensive coach. And again, I think

440
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,479
Speaker 5: being physical on offense is important. They went to the portal,

441
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,439
Speaker 5: got a lot bigger on the offensive line, got a

442
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Speaker 5: lot deeper. So I think that that's really wanted to

443
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Speaker 5: start and Jake, I think that's for most offenses when

444
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Speaker 5: I started, is running the football, but forberi OWDM in particular,

445
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Speaker 5: I think being physical win the line of scrimmage is

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Speaker 5: john number one to the offense.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you my concern Tom, and then I

448
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Speaker 1: want you to tell me in your time being around,

449
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Speaker 1: especially in the Big Ten, if I'm wrong here. Okay,

450
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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five in college football, when I look

451
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Speaker 1: at the teams and I know that Perdue is not

452
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Speaker 1: immediately saying hey, we got to do what we can

453
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Speaker 1: to you know, Paula, Kurt Signetti and get into the

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Speaker 1: college football playoff in year one. I mean there's so

455
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Speaker 1: many things that just oddly have to go into place

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Speaker 1: for that. But if you look at like even in

457
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Speaker 1: the big ten Ohio state, you know, Michigan to an extent,

458
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Speaker 1: Penn State to an I think so much of success

459
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Speaker 1: in college football today is about speed in space and

460
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Speaker 1: the era of three yards and a cloud of dust

461
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Speaker 1: or lineup across and just overall out grit people. My

462
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Speaker 1: fear is that that could be antiquated. Tell me, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Wrote, no, it's a sport.

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Speaker 5: You know, I grew up in the seventies and eighties

465
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Speaker 5: and those are the heydays of the running backs, you know,

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Speaker 5: number all, the number thirty two's, you know, with frank

467
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Speaker 5: O Harris and the guys like Lyndel Mitchell. I mean,

468
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Speaker 5: just just a great fleff of running backs. And we've

469
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Speaker 5: seen this become a quarterbacks game in a wide receivers

470
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Speaker 5: game in the last what ten or fifteen twenty years,

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Speaker 5: So you're right, quarterback centric, passing centric. You talked about

472
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Speaker 5: getting players in space, letting them do their things. That

473
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Speaker 5: sort of describes basketball and grass by Joe Tiller, you know,

474
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Speaker 5: a revolutionary concept that really caught the conference by storm.

475
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Speaker 5: And yeah, so we'll see Barry youngs I guess zigging

476
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Speaker 5: when everybody else is zagging, so to speak. Don't get

477
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Speaker 5: me wrong. I think he wants to pass the football,

478
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Speaker 5: and he will pass the football. But I still think

479
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Speaker 5: they want to say, tell you that ground game being physical,

480
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Speaker 5: and I guess I'm gonna have to wait to see

481
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Speaker 5: if indeed you can't win at a consistent level playing

482
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Speaker 5: that brand of football in the Big.

483
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Speaker 1: Ten when you talk about, you know, passing the football

484
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Speaker 1: or just what he you know, there are so many times,

485
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Speaker 1: so many transfers that have come in, and this roster

486
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Speaker 1: looks so new throughout the form of the preseason. Here

487
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Speaker 1: in watching them practice, or in perhaps just when coach

488
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Speaker 1: Otum speaks, is there a player or two that jump

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Speaker 1: out at you where you say, I don't know how

490
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Speaker 1: good Purdue is going to be, but this guy's going

491
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Speaker 1: to be fun to watch this year.

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Speaker 5: I think it's that's an easy one. Number two Michael Jackson. Yes,

493
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Speaker 5: they have a player named Michael Jackson. I think he's

494
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Speaker 5: going to be their best wide receiver. If you want

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Speaker 5: to pick a star training camp, I think he'd be

496
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Speaker 5: the guy you would go with a transfer from Georgia

497
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Speaker 5: who spent most of his career USC so produce his

498
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Speaker 5: third school. But he's a guy that's really turned a

499
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Speaker 5: lot of heads in that that's going to be your

500
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Speaker 5: alpha receiver. I think to begin the year at least

501
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Speaker 5: there's a kid from northern Indiana here another Georgia trains

502
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Speaker 5: for Nigel Tuggle from Napanee up in that part of

503
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Speaker 5: the state. Everybody's excited about. And I think in time

504
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Speaker 5: maybe he could be that real deep threat they're looking for.

505
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Speaker 5: So I think they do have some weapons. And now

506
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Speaker 5: we have Ryan Brown, Right, can Ryan Brown take that

507
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Speaker 5: next step, that next evolution in the quarterback? He's got

508
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Speaker 5: the intangibles. Certainly we'll see if he's really improved as

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Speaker 5: a passor or not.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the when you look at improvement for a passer

511
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Speaker 1: at the college game, and you know, Brown comes out

512
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Speaker 1: of I think he's from Michigan if I'm not mistaken, right, So,

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Speaker 1: and he's got the size. He definitely has good size.

514
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Speaker 1: But is it is it timing or is it actual

515
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Speaker 1: precision of bad delivery that has been so far the

516
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Speaker 1: thing that has prohibited him from really taking that next step,

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Speaker 1: If that makes sense.

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Speaker 5: I think it's always accuracy. Becoming more actor who has

519
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 5: been the issue that's usually the issue for all quarterbacks

520
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 5: still developing and that comes with time. So he's at

521
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Speaker 5: his moments in campus, no doubt about it. Six foot four,

522
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Speaker 5: two hundred and fifteen pounds and he can run. Jake,

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Speaker 5: He's going to be a big part of the ground game,

524
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Speaker 5: I think, not just from improvising and extent he played

525
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 5: with his feet, but from some cold runs as well.

526
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Speaker 5: So he Uh, he's a guy who thinks that can

527
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Speaker 5: do some things with his feet, and I think he's on.

528
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Speaker 5: Like I said, it's coming along as well, So yeah,

529
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Speaker 5: they may have some weapons here. Of course running back

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Speaker 5: Maccabi's back.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 5: You know, maybe the best players are tied in George

533
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Speaker 5: Byrne from from Mount Burning, Indiana, who may not play

534
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 5: coming off a spring injury. He's a terrific player. I

535
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 5: think they want to make sure he's totally healed up

536
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Speaker 5: and ready to go. So I'm guessing we're not going

537
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Speaker 5: to see him Saturday, nor maybe even in Southern Illinois.

538
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Speaker 5: So we'll see. But again number eighty one, George burn

539
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 5: the quarterback, the tight end, I should say, is a

540
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Speaker 5: terrific player and I think he's gonna have to be

541
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Speaker 5: a star if he wants this offense to really go listen.

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Speaker 1: I love Devin Moccaby, Tom Tom Deanhard our guests from

543
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Speaker 1: Golden Black. I love him because not only does he

544
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Speaker 1: seem like a really nice young man when I've heard

545
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Speaker 1: him interviewed, and I think we've had him on here

546
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Speaker 1: before as well, and John's had him on, but his

547
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Speaker 1: running style. I just love the fact that the Rundown

548
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Speaker 1: Hill I am afraid of no one's style of run

549
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Speaker 1: for maccaby, And I think what has hurt him at

550
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Speaker 1: times is everyone knew that was the way for Purdue

551
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Speaker 1: to move the chains, and so you could hone in

552
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Speaker 1: on it a little bit. If they can get some

553
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: offensive flexibility that opens up some lanes for him, he

554
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 1: could have a not that he hasn't already, but he

555
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: could really have a big year this year, wouldn't you agree?

556
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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's about eleven hundred, twelve hundred yards away from

557
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 5: the coming the all time the rusher here and and

558
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 5: you're right about his character. I'm just as a kid,

559
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 5: that's the kind of guy who wanted your young as

560
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 5: Jesu's your son. Just a trip individual, devoid of ego. Man, Jake,

561
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 5: there you stand next to Devin Mockaby and you wouldn't

562
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Speaker 5: even know he's a football player. He's just really not

563
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 5: physically imposing either. He has gotten bigger, but he's got

564
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 5: that knack on on the ball. Anybody who watches has

565
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 5: seen it. And yeah, this is his last goal around

566
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Speaker 5: a third head coach has played for, so he's going

567
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 5: to be fun to watch as well. And yeah, he's

568
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Speaker 5: you know, they can't totally mean on maccabee because I

569
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 5: think he's still a little bit slight. So that's what

570
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 5: that's what that air game you're talking about could maybe

571
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 5: create some ground space for him to operate on it

572
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 5: for defense is really I have to respect the possibility

573
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Speaker 5: of getting beat over the top of the deep pass.

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Speaker 2: It all gets underway.

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Speaker 1: Saturday going to be a beautiful day ross Aid and

576
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Speaker 1: West Lafayette, It is Purdue and Ball State, and then

577
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Speaker 1: it is Southern Illinois in week number two.

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Speaker 2: Tom.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate the time as always and look forward to talking

580
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Speaker 1: to you over the course of the season, and hopefully

581
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Speaker 1: is one where produce surprises to feed but we shall

582
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Speaker 1: see it. But I certainly look forward to talking to you.

583
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Speaker 5: I hope to see you down here, I should say

584
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 5: up here, and maybe maybe you'll be up to doing

585
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 5: shout one time.

586
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Speaker 7: Here.

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00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 5: I'm going to the fourth quarter.

588
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Speaker 2: Love it.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you I did it last year. I went

590
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: for the Oregon game, stayed for that and that was

591
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: the highlight of the night. Unfortunately I met the doc

592
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: that was cool too, But I love it. Up there, Tom,

593
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: we will see up there.

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

595
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Speaker 2: Good all right, Tom Deanhart from Golden Black. We come back.

596
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Speaker 1: Chris Ballard will be talking about the Colts roster and

597
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Speaker 1: we will take you out to West fifty six next

598
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Speaker 1: So we anticipate that Chris Ballard will be addressing the

599
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Speaker 1: media here coming up in just a couple of moments

600
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Speaker 1: from the Colts complex on West fifty six. This is

601
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Speaker 1: of course done each and every year at the start

602
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Speaker 1: of the season and the end of camp. I would

603
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Speaker 1: imagine one of the you know, from a roster standpoint,

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Speaker 1: I don't think that there were any huge surprises. Juju

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Speaker 1: Brnce to me was surprising. Now, it's not in totality

606
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Speaker 1: when you think about the fact that Juju Brents, because

607
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Speaker 1: what I always say, the best ability is availability, and

608
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: Juju Brents obviously has been dinged up and has not

609
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: been able to play. I feel bad for him, not

610
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Speaker 1: just because he's a local guy and you pull for

611
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: local guys, but also because it's not his fault that

612
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: his body just has kind of let him down, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, same for Jelanie Woods, right, And the same

614
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Speaker 1: for Jeelanni Woods. Yeah, I mean Jelanie Woods is another

615
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: one that I think there was The Colts in particular

616
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,719
Speaker 1: were clearly very high on Jelannie Woods and intrigued by

617
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: It's probably a better way of saying it. With what

618
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: he could do, and you get injuries and you miss

619
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: two games or two years, and then what do you do?

620
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: You just have not had a chance to show what

621
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Speaker 1: you're doing. But I would also imagine it goes without

622
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: saying that the first question for Chris Ballard, or at

623
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Speaker 1: least one of the first is going to be even

624
00:31:53,560 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: though this is about his roster decisions, clearly, the burning

625
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: question now for Ballard becomes, is Anthony Richardson somebody that

626
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: he is open for business on.

627
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 2: I know that he and I know what he's gonna say.

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00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: We believe in Anthony, and you know, we anticipate having

629
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: him here next year, and he's done a great job

630
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: with the scout team and YadA YadA.

631
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Speaker 2: I get all that. Look, he's got stuff he's got

632
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 2: to work through, and you know we'll work through that.

633
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 2: And uh, you know Anthony's ready, We'll you'll give him

634
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Speaker 2: another shot.

635
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's exactly what you're gonna hear, right,

636
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: And I get that, I get and I get that

637
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: they you kind of have to say that. You kind

638
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: of have to say that. But without further ado. Now

639
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: Chris Ballard the general manager of the Indianapolis Colts from

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Speaker 1: West fifty sixth. That is Chris Ballard, the general manager

641
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: of the Indianapolis Colts. And there were a couple of

642
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: things that jumped out at me there, the first being,

643
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: and I have always felt this way. We have the

644
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Speaker 1: ability here. You know, we have the text line at

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Speaker 1: two three nine ten seventy. I give my telephone number

646
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Speaker 1: out on the air all the time at five two

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Speaker 1: three ninety two eighty eight. We have obviously, we have

648
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Speaker 1: the YouTube chat, we have social media. I totally understand

649
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Speaker 1: that it is fair game for those of us on

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Speaker 1: radio or television to be criticized because to an extent,

651
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Speaker 1: whether we like it or not, our job is to

652
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: criticize people or they're not as people, but their job effectiveness,

653
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Speaker 1: their decision making, and so it's fair when we have

654
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Speaker 1: to take that back and people say, you know, like

655
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Speaker 1: somebody earlier was like, oh, this is great sports talk radio.

656
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Speaker 1: You're doing wins and losses predictions in the preseason. That's

657
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Speaker 1: a fair critique. Guilty is charged. Maybe because I've been

658
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: around it for a long time. I'm the one that's

659
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Speaker 1: defensive of fellow media members, and I understand the cynicism

660
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Speaker 1: that people have about the media, But to me, that

661
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: was an overly defensive Chris Ballard at the beginning of

662
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Speaker 1: that press conference. It wasn't James Boyd who drafted a

663
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Speaker 1: guy fourth overall at the quarterback position and within the

664
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Speaker 1: first contract decided that he wasn't good enough to start

665
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Speaker 1: for the roster. It wasn't Stephen Holder, who has guided

666
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Speaker 1: a franchise now that has watched every other team within

667
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Speaker 1: the division win the division twice since your franchise last.

668
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Speaker 2: Did you know?

669
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Speaker 1: It wasn't Kevin Bowen that's won a playoff game and

670
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Speaker 1: now heading into year number nine. There are things about

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Speaker 1: this roster that I like. There are things that Chris

672
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Speaker 1: Ballard has done that I give him credit for. But

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Speaker 1: for him to act incredulous about the fact that that

674
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Speaker 1: the vast majority of questions at the beginning of that

675
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: press conference were going to be about Anthony Richardson when

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Speaker 1: he has not talked to the media since the decision

677
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Speaker 1: that Anthony Richardson his pick, his franchise pick for a

678
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Speaker 1: franchise quarterback has been usurped as the starter by a

679
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Speaker 1: guy that has a twenty game below five hundred starting record.

680
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Speaker 1: He has to understand those questions are going to come.

681
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Speaker 1: But let's respond to a couple of things that he

682
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Speaker 1: had to say for starters when he was asked about

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Speaker 1: the growth of Anthony Richardson and how far Anthony Richardson

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Speaker 1: has come. Here's what Chris Ballard had to say.

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Speaker 8: I think following Daniel and watching him work and if

686
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Speaker 8: he continues with the growth that he's had, like Anthony's

687
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Speaker 8: been good, he has and he's made tremendous strides.

688
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Speaker 9: Is he there yet?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 9: But does he have work to do? Yes?

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Speaker 8: And Anthony will acknowledge that, Like I'm really proud of.

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Speaker 8: I mean, it's like the fun parts of this job

693
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Speaker 8: is watching guys just start to really mature. And I

694
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Speaker 8: know everybody thinks that a twenty twenty one to twenty

695
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Speaker 8: two year old young man should be a grown man

696
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Speaker 8: all right and everything they do, but that is not

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Speaker 8: That's not the case in any world. I don't with

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Speaker 8: anything you're doing in life. Like these are young people

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Speaker 8: and it takes some time. So to watch him grow

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Speaker 8: and to continue to mature and then to handle the adversity.

701
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Speaker 8: Like there's two ways you can handle this, Like you

702
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 8: can go in the dumps, or you can accept the

703
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Speaker 8: challenge and accept the challenge to keep getting better, be prepared,

704
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Speaker 8: continue to work on your fundamentals, continue to work on

705
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Speaker 8: the daily game planning that has to happen as a quarterback,

706
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Speaker 8: to collaborate with the other quarterbacks in your game planning,

707
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Speaker 8: and then being ready to go because you're one snap away.

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Speaker 8: That's real. That is real, and that's natural development. I

709
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Speaker 8: know you want me to sit here and give you

710
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 8: an A to B plan. Look, it's about daily, everyday

711
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 8: work and doing it without the pressure of being the starter.

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Speaker 1: Okay. He also said that he believes that Anthony Richardson

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Speaker 1: has come miles, that he's been overcoming obstacles and he

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Speaker 1: has come miles and he's proud of that. The question

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Speaker 1: that I have in that or the point that I

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Speaker 1: that I think everyone needs to ask, is if Anthony

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Speaker 1: Richardson has come miles as a player, then that means

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Speaker 1: that at one point he was miles away from where

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Speaker 1: he is now. But at that point you decided after

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Speaker 1: a month to make him your starter. Now that he

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Speaker 1: has come miles from that progression, he's not good enough

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Speaker 1: to start. So what does that tell you about your

723
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Speaker 1: decision making? And is that an admission that you completely

724
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Speaker 1: butchered it from the beginning with Antiey Richardson. That is

725
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Speaker 1: right there a fundamental error in the way that you

726
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Speaker 1: handled Anthony Richardson from the get go, because by your

727
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Speaker 1: owned admission, he was not good enough to be a

728
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Speaker 1: starter in the National Football League when you first got him.

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Speaker 1: Because if he has come miles from there, if he's

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Speaker 1: not good enough to be a starter today, then why

731
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Speaker 1: was he good enough to be a starter miles ago?

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Speaker 1: That would be my first question, And that's why it

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Speaker 1: bothers me. Maybe it shouldn't, but that's why it bothers

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Speaker 1: me that he was so defensive and at times condescending

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Speaker 1: to people for asking about it. I mean, he was

736
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Speaker 1: condescending to Oh, you guys are always you know, it

737
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Speaker 1: was deflect, deflect, deflect. That's a fundamental error in the

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Speaker 1: way that you handled Anthony Richardson, and that is a

739
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Speaker 1: right there in admission of that guilt. Now, later, James Boyd,

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Speaker 1: who you hear on This the Fan morning show on

741
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Speaker 1: this radio station with Jeff Ricket and Kevin Bowen, asked

742
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Speaker 1: the question about where Chris Ballard feels in terms of

743
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Speaker 1: his own job security, and he said something that I

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Speaker 1: found very interesting.

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Speaker 8: I cared deeply about this organization in city. Okay, the fans,

746
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Speaker 8: way they treat you, They're great. Now, I've got a

747
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Speaker 8: few emails that were nasty, but I always wonder if

748
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Speaker 8: that's from what basement is some dude writing that from but.

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Speaker 9: Saying that I don't I just don't roll that way.

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Speaker 9: I never have.

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Speaker 8: I never rolled that way where I worry about, you know,

752
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Speaker 8: what the future holds. I just I'm fortunate to work

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Speaker 8: in the National Football League. I've always been grateful and

754
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 8: I will never take one day for granted. Whatever the role,

755
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 8: this is a unique place I could have to go

756
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 8: get a real job for a living. That would suck,

757
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Speaker 8: That would really suck. So no pressure in that way.

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Speaker 1: No, Okay, I can appreciate that, and Chris Ballad and

759
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Speaker 1: I are roughly the same age. I think I can

760
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Speaker 1: appreciate the perspective of understanding there's more to life than

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Speaker 1: like your job secure.

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Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 1: But this is the National Football League, this is professional sports.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what makes elite athletes elite athletes? Do

765
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Speaker 1: you know what makes legendary coaches legendary coaches? Do you

766
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Speaker 1: know what makes an Indy five hundred champion driver different

767
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Speaker 1: than the other thirty two in the field. Do you

768
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Speaker 1: know what makes Michael Jordan Michael Jordan. Yes, you've got

769
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Speaker 1: to have natural ability. I get all of that, But

770
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Speaker 1: it's like Allen's Er Junior once said about the Indy

771
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 1: five hundred, there comes a time in every race we're

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Speaker 1: winning is all that matters. And I think the vast

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Speaker 1: majority of people in professional sports. While I do respect

774
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,919
Speaker 1: Chris Ballard's perspective there, the bottom line is maybe it's

775
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: time for him to start worrying about and feeling the

776
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: pressure of failure. Then are we going to start taking

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Speaker 1: things seriously? We're in year number nine here. Patients, patients, patience,

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00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: Just everybody be patient. We have a plan. You know

779
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: it's going to take time. Nine years in the NFL

780
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: is like this is like dog years. That's like seventy

781
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: years for fans around here. They don't want to hear

782
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:32,919
Speaker 1: about patience. They don't want to hear about just wait

783
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 1: for the plan to come to vision. And they certainly

784
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: don't want to hear that the guy that is asking

785
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: for your patients doesn't feel any sort of a pressure

786
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Speaker 1: or worry about failure. You don't worry about failure, and

787
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: I can I get fundamentally what he is saying. But

788
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Speaker 1: this is professional sports. This is different than it just is.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess Peyton Manning, Michael Jordan, Reggie Miller, Hyrie's Halliburton.

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00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: The thing that drives them that why was Kobe Bryant

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00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: in Jim's at five o'clock in the morning when everybody

792
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 1: else got up at seven because he was afraid to fail,

793
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: because he didn't want to fail. Because that's how they rolled,

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00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 1: That's how they rolled. And to me, and I'm not

795
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Speaker 1: trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill,

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to listen. I have nothing against Chris

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00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 1: Ballard as a person. I thought in that press conference.

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Speaker 1: Right there, he was disrespectful to the people whose job

799
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 1: it is to cover his franchise, and notably when the

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Speaker 1: most important decision of his franchise and the last handful

801
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: of years, by his own admission, was right there misplayed

802
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: and misconstrued and mishandled and misjudged. And maybe it would

803
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 1: have been played differently, and maybe we would have been

804
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 1: willing to Why are we the ones that have to

805
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,040
Speaker 1: be patient when, by your own admission, you handed the

806
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,280
Speaker 1: keys to a franchise quarterback way too early and rushed

807
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 1: it when you were the one that should have been patient.

808
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 1: Maybe if they'd have been patient with Anthony Richardson, we

809
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't be in this situation. We wouldn't be sitting here

810
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,959
Speaker 1: questioning whether or not they're going to have to blow

811
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Speaker 1: the whole thing up and start all over again. If

812
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: they would have organically allowed him to grow into being

813
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback like allegedly they still believe he can be.

814
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: If they would have organically done that by waiting for

815
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,720
Speaker 1: him to come miles, and by coming miles, he still

816
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 1: isn't ready to be a starter. Not my proclamation, theirs.

817
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:42,760
Speaker 1: So where was the patience then where was the patients

818
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: we're supposed to have? Where was the vision and the

819
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 1: plan that we're supposed to ride out. We'll talk more

820
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Speaker 1: about this over the course of the show.

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Speaker 2: Today.

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Speaker 1: There is a big one happening in college football. Marion,

823
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: You Indy Ted Kerris Junior, always a fun conversation, and

824
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Speaker 1: he joined just next more reaction to Chris Ballard coming

825
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: up just a couple minutes. College football getting underway. We

826
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Speaker 1: have talked a lot about the slaty games, including some

827
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Speaker 1: big ones taking place on Saturday. But to kind of

828
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Speaker 1: get everything kicked off here locally, I mentioned earlier there

829
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Speaker 1: are two schools in the Indianapolis area that are scholarship

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Speaker 1: football programs. One is ranked fifteenth to begin the Division

831
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Speaker 1: two College Football rankings, talking about the University of Indianapolis.

832
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 1: The other one starts out the NAIA rankings where they

833
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: are always nationally ranked and competitive at twenty third. Talking

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Speaker 1: about the Marion Knights and they get underway and Tussel

835
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Speaker 1: tomorrow night at six h five at Ascension Saint Vincent

836
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Speaker 1: Field over on the near west side of Indianapolis and

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Speaker 1: joining us now on the guest line to talk about

838
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: that and more. The head football coach of the Marion Knights,

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Speaker 1: Ted Kris Junior joins the program.

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Speaker 2: Coach, How are you.

841
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Speaker 3: Doing good here, Jake? Exciting times on the West side.

842
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: Indeed, I'll tell you what, I I love it because

843
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: this time of year and mother nature cooperated perfectly because

844
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, like in the last week, the

845
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: temperature just dropped to that little slight crisp in the air,

846
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: and so you know, it's football season, right And I

847
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: know from a coaching standpoint, you're always thinking football season,

848
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: but you know, this time of year is always fascinating

849
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: because you're just trying to find out your roster and

850
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,479
Speaker 1: who you are and where you've come from a year ago.

851
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: Where are you guys right now in terms of where

852
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: you'd like to be going into week number one?

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00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 2: If that makes sense, it does.

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00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:35,439
Speaker 3: Book it back to the weather.

855
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 10: Thank goodness that the weather broke a little bit, because

856
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 10: we truly had to improvise and adapt during our training camp,

857
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 10: moving off campus on numerous occasions. But the guy's got

858
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 10: it done and we got some good work in so

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00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 10: where I'd like to be. You know, first games are

860
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,720
Speaker 10: always scary. I like to be you know, obviously, win.

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00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 3: The football game and play really well. But you know,

862
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 3: you never know.

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00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 10: In week one and we're going to be playing quite

864
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 10: a few new guys. I'm really excited to see, you know,

865
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 10: how they perform. And we also have a lot of

866
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 10: good veterans that have proven themselves on the grid iron

867
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 10: and looking for big things from them.

868
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 1: You know, when you look at coach and I know

869
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: that this is and I know this from talking to

870
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: Pat Night for example. You you know who's along with

871
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 1: you at Marion on the basketball side of things. The

872
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: nil complexity of college football. And I'm sure you're rolling

873
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: your eyes right when I ask that, because it's such

874
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: a buzzword within college athletics and at the inn ai

875
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 1: A level. It's not as a you know, it's not applicable,

876
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: but but it is to an extent because you have

877
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: kids maybe that go and they think there's going to

878
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 1: be greater pastor somewhere and then it doesn't work out

879
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 1: and they find themselves wanting to just play. How has

880
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: kind of the rippled down, if you will, affected you guys,

881
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: just in terms of roster and for that matter, transfers

882
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: in of kids that all of that applies towards.

883
00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 3: It's a good question. So, no, it has affected us.

884
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 10: You know, last year we had a really good cornerback,

885
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 10: Dwight Lewis, and he ended up going to uh, Mississippi State,

886
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 10: the big division one, you know, at the S program,

887
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 10: you know, for for a nice little deal, you know.

888
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 10: And then you know, so many high schools are starting

889
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 10: to work with the NIL. I think we have to,

890
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 10: you know, get going on that ourselves too. But what

891
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,800
Speaker 10: I've seen this like over the last two years is

892
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 10: that a lot of players at this level, if they

893
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 10: you know, have distinguished them themselves, can move up in

894
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 10: division and also get an NL payday. So it's really interesting,

895
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 10: you know, what's going on in the last you know,

896
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 10: really two three years.

897
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: So let's talk about your roster in terms of what

898
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: you have returning. And in addition to that, you know,

899
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: I'm assuming coach that you're always kind of looking from

900
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 1: one year to the next of making slight tweaks or

901
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,720
Speaker 1: changes of the way you play. But do you schematically

902
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,959
Speaker 1: do you design towards what you were doing a year ago,

903
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: or do you have some new faces that maybe create

904
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: a little bit of need for wrinkle?

905
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, Well, so first off, we have a new

906
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 10: defensive coordinator and Clay Amrick. He's done an excellent job,

907
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 10: you know. And we have some new faces on the

908
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,280
Speaker 10: defensive side of the ball as well.

909
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 3: So now there's going to be a.

910
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 10: Quite a few changes defensively for sure, and there's gonna

911
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 10: be some new faces in the program that are going

912
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:29,280
Speaker 10: to get to play Tomorrow night. Offensively, Matt King returns

913
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 10: to our offensive coordinator. We're gonna do a lot of

914
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 10: the Saints, but he's also going.

915
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:34,439
Speaker 3: To have some wrinkles in there.

916
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: You know.

917
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 10: The best fits are our personnel and what he wants.

918
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 3: To do there.

919
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 10: So every year is always different, Jake, So you know,

920
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 10: and you got to improvise and adapt and and make

921
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 10: those changes.

922
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: You've got a pretty big staff actually, you know. I

923
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 1: know Steve Stetsi, for example, who's obviously well known from

924
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: a high school standpoint in the area, and I think

925
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: was out of coaching for a while and came back.

926
00:48:56,520 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: But you've got a pretty good sized staff in terms

927
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:05,359
Speaker 1: of going into the year. And I'm curious as the

928
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:10,280
Speaker 1: head coach, you know, which area of a football team

929
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: does the head coach become most reliant on the assistant.

930
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 10: Oh that's a good question, I say, it probably changes from.

931
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 3: Year to year. I've been on, you know, all sides.

932
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 10: Of the football, and then when I first got back

933
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 10: to Mary And I was offensively. Now I'm on the

934
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 10: defensive side, working with the D line. You know, I've

935
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 10: been a special teams coordinator. I think that you know,

936
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 10: if you have a good stout defense, you know that's

937
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 10: what you want to you know, rely on.

938
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 1: Most when you look offensively speaking, I love when I

939
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: ask this question at the beginning of each year, and listen,

940
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: Marion is so cool anyway, coach. You probably hear me

941
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 1: say this annually. But every time I drive up Cold

942
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: Springs Road, which I do a lot. Every time I

943
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 1: drive up there, there's a new aspect of the campus.

944
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: I mean, it continues to grow and grow as a universe.

945
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: I love the fact that I think that Marian has

946
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: really utilized and understood the importance in the marriage of

947
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: athletics to profile that and to make the university, you know,

948
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: to get not only for alumni to come back, but

949
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: also to promote the university. And the university has grown

950
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: along with It's a symbiotic relationship with athletics with it.

951
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 2: Right.

952
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 1: So having said all of that, I love the atmosphere.

953
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 1: The game day atmosphere is always good over there. And

954
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 1: if people are going to come out that are not

955
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 1: as familiar with Marian and just want to be able

956
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 1: to see local talent and watch the Knights play, they're

957
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: going to see what style of football, notably offensively.

958
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 10: Offensively, they're going to see a bounce attack. We have

959
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 10: a really good running back in Keaton Lebelle.

960
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 3: We got to be able to run the football.

961
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 10: We have a dynamic you know, receiving core Jake Reicher

962
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 10: leading the way there and a really good leader the

963
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 10: last two years, Tristan Polk at quarterback, who you know,

964
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 10: I'll go out so you can throw the ball, but

965
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 10: also is underrated.

966
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 3: In his running game. So those are some of the

967
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 3: things that you'll see authentically.

968
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 1: You know what I love about it is when you've

969
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: got a receiver as you mentioned in Jake Riker from Plymouth, Indiana,

970
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,720
Speaker 1: and he's catching a ball from Tristan polkas from Floyd

971
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: Central High School. You've got the whole state covered there.

972
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: I mean literally, you're going southern into the state, northern

973
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 1: into the state. You guys are covering everywhere trying to

974
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 1: get kids to Marion.

975
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, we always had.

976
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 10: We always started in the city obviously, but then we

977
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 10: branch out from there and you know we're hitting other

978
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 10: states as well. But yeah, and we've always won, you know,

979
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 10: starting home for sure.

980
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,280
Speaker 1: Chris Keevers is well established now at you Indy as well.

981
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: He's you know, a Greyhound alum and is the head

982
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: of that program. You guys will be tussling tomorrow night,

983
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: six o'clock over at Ascension Saint Vincent Field at Marion.

984
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: What jumps out at you about you Indy and why

985
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 1: is this a good starting matchup for you guys?

986
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 3: Well, well, first off, Chris is a Purdue alum. You know,

987
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 3: he played at Purdue.

988
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 2: I'm sorry I was, but he coached under Bart right.

989
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 10: Yes, absolutely, yeah, yeah.

990
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 3: That's all good.

991
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,320
Speaker 10: Me and Chris actually played against each other in college.

992
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 10: He played at Perdue, I I at Northwestern, so yeah,

993
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:14,240
Speaker 10: we actually squared. We're both defensive linemen about the same age.

994
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 10: But what sticks out to me is that, obviously the

995
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 10: well coach, he's done an excellent job there. They're really

996
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 10: talenting their offense, and they do have a good offense.

997
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 10: They got most of their offensive line back. You know,

998
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 10: they're a season group their quarterback. You know, there's been

999
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,240
Speaker 10: a two time conference you know, first team All Conference

1000
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 10: guy up for the Harlan Hill. So he's the dynamic.

1001
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 10: He can make plays passing and running. So I mean,

1002
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 10: they're a dangerous offense and we really have to work

1003
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 10: to contain him and put pressure on the quarterback.

1004
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: Do you guys ever just in general, you know, like

1005
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 1: you and Chris for example, going back right, and obviously

1006
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 1: he's been in the area. If I'm not mistaken, I

1007
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: think he were the Marshall, So he's an Indie guy.

1008
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 1: But when you do you, guys, ever, over the course

1009
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:01,359
Speaker 1: of a season, whether it be Chris Kievers or any

1010
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 1: other coaches in the area, do you guys ever pick

1011
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 1: each other's brains and just call up, especially if you're

1012
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 1: in different leagues, but just to say, you know, I've

1013
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,720
Speaker 1: been working on this or this team does this differently,

1014
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: and you guys, you guys have seen somebody that runs

1015
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: that style or that kind of a system. You know

1016
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: how much I guess fraternal order is there within coaches

1017
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 1: of scouting things out or working things out, or experimenting

1018
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: and picking one's brain over the course of a season.

1019
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 10: I think that varies from coach to coach, you know.

1020
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 10: I mean, me and Chris haven't talked a lot about that,

1021
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 10: but I think some of our as systems have you know,

1022
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,399
Speaker 10: we weren't playing each other. I just think that varies.

1023
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 10: But yeah, there's there's that fraternal order, like you say.

1024
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 10: I've talked to coach Feminists at Saint Avier. He's played

1025
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 10: them a few times, gave me some insights to what

1026
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 10: he thought.

1027
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 3: So that definitely goes on.

1028
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: Three of the first four games are going to be

1029
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 1: home games for Mary and it all gets underway against

1030
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 1: the University of Indianapolis and again that game at six

1031
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 1: h five tomorrow night. Then it's on the road to

1032
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 1: take on Lawrence Tech and then Defiance and Indiana Wesley

1033
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 1: and there's a gap there on the twentieth been Indiana

1034
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,359
Speaker 1: Wesley and notably will be a big game as well

1035
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 1: on the twenty seventh of September. That's always a big

1036
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 1: one out at Ascension Saint Vincent Field. Coach, appreciate the

1037
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: time as always, we look forward to talking to you

1038
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 1: over the course of the year, and I know you

1039
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:23,879
Speaker 1: guys always put together a successful season and heck will

1040
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 1: probably be talking maybe eyes on the playoffs towards the

1041
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: end of the year, but a lot of football between

1042
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 1: now and then starts tomorrow night.

1043
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 2: Wish you the best of luck.

1044
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 3: Thanks, Jake, appreciate you having me on.

1045
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 2: I appreciate it.

1046
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 1: Ted Carris joining us from Marion University again tomorrow night

1047
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 1: against the University of Indianapolis. Now, Eddie, you mentioned when

1048
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 1: you were a Greyhound yourself, you went to a lot

1049
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: of the games.

1050
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 2: Right, Oh, yes, Jake went to a lot of them.

1051
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 2: Were you a big tailgate guy? Well, I was calling

1052
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:52,359
Speaker 2: most of the games, I.

1053
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 1: Guess you were. Did you call your last two years

1054
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: or just your last year? All four three of them

1055
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 1: my sophomore. Did you ever technically no?

1056
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 2: Never come on now being a response, No, I was

1057
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 2: being a responsible professional, Jake. I mean I had to

1058
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 2: go in there early in the morning. What caused you

1059
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 2: to stop that mentality? Oh? What do you mean? I

1060
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 2: don't know what you're saying. We come in here. It's

1061
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 2: all about having fun, right, Yeah? Absolutely, absolutely.

1062
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 1: When you would get ready to call a game, yeah,

1063
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: you didn't kidding aside, you didn't. You took it serious

1064
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: and you handled it because you didn't want to fail

1065
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: at it, right, right, I mean, you were driven by

1066
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 1: the fear of failure. That to me was one of

1067
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: the things that Chris Ballard said earlier that surprised me

1068
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 1: in his answer, I can I'm going to go back

1069
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 1: to I can appreciate what he was saying, but I

1070
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: was surprised by his answer. We'll play for you a

1071
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 1: couple other things Chris Ballard had to say. And I

1072
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 1: really would like to know your folks reaction to what

1073
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 1: you heard from Chris Ballard, anything that surprised you, anything

1074
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 1: that didn't surprise you, your level of optimism going into the

1075
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 1: year two three nine, ten seventy. We played for you

1076
00:55:59,920 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 1: the Chris Ballard press conference. It wrapped up just about

1077
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 1: twenty five minutes ago. I want reaction from the Colts.

1078
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 1: And maybe I'm overreacting, maybe I'm being too cynical or

1079
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:14,359
Speaker 1: too harsh on what I thought was his approach there

1080
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 1: and the things that he said two three nine, ten seventy.

1081
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 1: Your reaction, I'd like to have that conversation next. I

1082
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 1: thought it was interesting that Chris Ballard said that he

1083
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 1: has not had a lot of conversation with Anthony Richardson,

1084
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 1: but he's had a lot of talks with Anthony Richardson's agent.

1085
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: Let trust Jake, the agent that said that they were

1086
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: losing trust in the Colts. But why if Anthony Richardson

1087
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 1: is not on the trade block and he is a

1088
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 1: secure member of the future of the Indianapolis Colts, for

1089
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 1: what reason would Chris Ballard need to have a lot

1090
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 1: of conversations with the agent of Anthony Richardson. I'd like

1091
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 1: to know reaction to what you folks heard from Chris Ballard.

1092
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 1: And we'll just kind of go into order. Here will

1093
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 1: begin with Kenny, who joins us on the show. Hi Kenny,

1094
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 1: how are you.

1095
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 3: I'm doing good. How are you, Jake?

1096
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 2: I'm good? Thank you? Your thoughts uh sparse?

1097
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 6: Anthony goes Man. I think he's a great dude. I

1098
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 6: don't know if he can lead our team. But if

1099
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,919
Speaker 6: you remember right last year when they set him down,

1100
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 6: when he came back, he did have two games that

1101
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 6: he played really good New England and the Jets. So

1102
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 6: maybe I don't know if anybody said this yet, but

1103
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 6: maybe it's their playing to make him set and then

1104
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 6: when he comes in, maybe he's got a shot to

1105
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 6: see if he can actually make a move and actually

1106
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 6: do something from sitting on his butt watching somebody play

1107
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 6: the game.

1108
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 2: Right, that's fair, that's fair.

1109
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 1: I mean obviously it's, you know, a redirect of the approach, right,

1110
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 1: because initially it was you're the starter and then you know,

1111
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 1: that's fair. Now it comes a little late in the

1112
00:57:56,440 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 1: game too for that redirection, but it's probably a better adjustment,

1113
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: not better, you know, now than never?

1114
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 2: I guess, is it?

1115
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 3: Dan?

1116
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 1: Is that right?

1117
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 11: Dan?

1118
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 1: Den? Hey? Dan?

1119
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 2: What's up?

1120
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 12: Hey there?

1121
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 13: I'm not sure what consensus is. I was just tuning

1122
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 13: in there, but with Chris Ballard, to me, it kind

1123
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 13: of sounds like he's slaling, right. I mean, he was

1124
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 13: being Matthew with some of the reporters there, you know,

1125
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 13: seems a little tent up and just ready to move

1126
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 13: on and saying that he's not under pressure. He just

1127
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 13: goes day by day and that's kind of stuff. We've

1128
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 13: been here for ten years, so overall, not super impressed.

1129
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 13: I'm I'm just curious, you know, what's what's going on

1130
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 13: behind scenes.

1131
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 1: It's a good question, Den, And let's play for you

1132
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 1: one more time, Eddie, Let's play again. At the end,

1133
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 1: when James Boyd asked the question of whether or not

1134
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: Chris Ballard feels pressure or you know now in year

1135
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 1: number nine and with obviously Carlie Orsa Gordon, and we

1136
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 1: don't know the exact mindset of the daughters in general,

1137
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 1: and Chris Ballard. This is how he answered that question

1138
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 1: about the pressure of his job.

1139
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 8: I cared deeply about this organization and city. Okay, the

1140
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 8: fans way they treat you, they're great. Now, I've got

1141
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 8: a few emails that that were nasty. But I always

1142
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 8: wonder if that's from what basement is some dude writing

1143
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 8: that from.

1144
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 9: But saying that.

1145
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 3: I don't.

1146
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 9: I just don't roll that way. I never have.

1147
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 8: I never rolled that way where I worry about, you know,

1148
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 8: what the future holds. I just I'm fortunate to work

1149
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 8: in the National Football League. I've always been grateful and

1150
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 8: I will never take one day for granted, whatever the role.

1151
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 9: This is a unique place.

1152
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 8: I could have to go get a real job for

1153
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 8: a living that would suck, That would really suck.

1154
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 9: So no pressure in that way.

1155
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 1: Now again I go back to I can appreciate and

1156
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 1: respect his perspective. I do, But at the same time,

1157
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 1: sports are a bit unique because I think you find

1158
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 1: most people that are uberly successful in it. The competitive

1159
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 1: nature of it is driven by a desire to not

1160
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: fail instead of yeah I don't, I just don't roll

1161
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 1: that way. Mitch, My man, Mitch.

1162
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 3: What's up, Hey, Jake, how are you?

1163
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 4: I'm all right, good, I have this was calm to

1164
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 4: tell you that I don't think you're overreacting at all.

1165
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 4: Is same with the same sorry stuff he said every year.

1166
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 1: As a fan, Mitch, as a fan, what is your

1167
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 1: reaction to it? You know, as a fan, is that like, Oh,

1168
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 1: I mean I get it. What more is he going

1169
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 1: to say? Or is there are there other things you

1170
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 1: want to hear from him?

1171
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's definitely other things, and it's just very disappointing.

1172
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 3: He just.

1173
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:14,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he's like I said, it's the same

1174
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 4: stuff he says every year, and there's no accountability, and

1175
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 4: he says, yeah, it would suck to get a real job.

1176
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 4: Well yeah, but you know he's getting paid, you know.

1177
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 1: You know, I'll tell you this, bitch, This is funny.

1178
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 1: Somebody sent me this okay, and I had to laugh

1179
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 1: at it. But somebody sent me a screen grab of

1180
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 1: what was posted on the ex post Twitter last week

1181
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 1: by somebody said next week this was written last week. Okay,

1182
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 1: next week, Chris Ballard will talk to the media. Here's

1183
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 1: my prediction as to what he says. All right, look,

1184
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:00,920
Speaker 1: I know we got questions about the court arterback competition.

1185
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 1: We're not giving up on Ar. We just aren't. Like

1186
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 1: Shane said, he's one playway. He just needs more time

1187
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 1: to develop and learn, and he's got a great opportunity

1188
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 1: to do that from the sidelines under Daniel, who we

1189
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 1: believe gives us the best chance to win right now.

1190
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 1: I mean, shoot, I wouldn't have signed him if I

1191
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 1: didn't think he would anyway. We won't give up on Ar.

1192
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 1: He's close, but just not close enough. And whoever started

1193
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 1: that rumor that we're trading him, that's all BS typical league,

1194
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 1: unnamed sources. Put your name on it, Put your name

1195
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 1: on it. But we still believe in Ar. Trust me,

1196
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 1: we do. Smirks in confidence and laughs. That is the

1197
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 1: most accurate, dead on prediction ever. Very impressive. All right,

1198
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 1: we'll do rapid fire here. I want your thoughts on it.

1199
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 1: We'll begin with Matt. Matt, your thoughts go.

1200
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 12: I was appalled when he said he had to get

1201
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 12: a real job. I mean, this is a privileged job.

1202
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 12: You work harder to keep this, and he sat there

1203
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:59,479
Speaker 12: and gave a Kamala Harris word salad over and over

1204
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 12: and over again. I mean, it was just appalling. It's ridiculous.

1205
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 2: Time to go all right, Cliff, what's up Cliff?

1206
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 3: Hey, Jake, how are you doing?

1207
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 2: Good? Your thoughts?

1208
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 6: Hey?

1209
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 14: I just I get really tired of the smugness. He

1210
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 14: stands up there as if the city owes him something,

1211
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 14: there says on him something. He's not a likable guy.

1212
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 14: There's not any real reason for him to be like.

1213
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 14: He didn't come from this organization. He came from the Chiefs.

1214
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 14: The Chiefs have continued to excel after he left, hasn't

1215
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 14: done anything to prove himself here, and yet he still

1216
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 14: stands up there in as smug as ever, and it

1217
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 14: just gets tiresome.

1218
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 2: Appreciate it, Todd.

1219
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 15: Todd, you're up to my knowledge, he's not required to

1220
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 15: have this news conference, but boy, you wouldn't know it

1221
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 15: by listening to him.

1222
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 3: Just add the attitude.

1223
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 15: Are we signing Alex Smith anytimes?

1224
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 3: Then? Yeah?

1225
01:03:57,360 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 2: He was high on Alex Smith?

1226
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 1: Right, I mean I get what, I get the comparison

1227
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 1: he was making, right, Yeah.

1228
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 15: I think the other thing is he's sometimes preemptive. He

1229
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 15: kind of falls on the sword a little bit about

1230
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 15: his past history. But he's what, Mike, He's fallen on

1231
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 15: a letter opener, not a saber.

1232
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 3: He you know, I think that's deflective as well. So anyhow,

1233
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 3: let somebody else.

1234
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 2: Go appreciate it, Tod. All right, Steve, your thoughts.

1235
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 7: Yep, I've never heard Ballard sound more arrogant than he

1236
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:28,040
Speaker 7: did today. I think you were totally right in taking

1237
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 7: him the task, and I'm hoping that James and Kevin

1238
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 7: do it in the morning. He sounded like he has

1239
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 7: everything in the world figured out when he's gotten no

1240
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 7: track record to back it up, and him talking about

1241
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 7: getting emails and him not liking that emails must be

1242
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 7: from some dude in a basement somewhere, just shows the

1243
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 7: arrogance that anyone that might disagree with him is just

1244
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:52,920
Speaker 7: some loser sitting.

1245
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 3: In a basement.

1246
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 1: Steve, let me ask you this question. And I'm genuinely

1247
01:04:57,120 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 1: curious of this when you know, as I was listening

1248
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 1: to it, I thought it was interesting that he closed

1249
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 1: his press conference by saying that he doesn't feel pressure

1250
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 1: and doesn't roll that way, because to me, he sounded

1251
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 1: like a guy under immense pressure that felt like the

1252
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 1: walls were caving in.

1253
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 7: I would agree it sounds like he's being his true

1254
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 7: self because he's always kind of sounded arrogant, and he's

1255
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 7: always said, oh, I don't feel pressure. But now that

1256
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 7: the pressure is really on and we all know that

1257
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 7: it is, he's getting the harder questions from the media.

1258
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 7: Everyone's sort of taken him to task on the fact

1259
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 7: that he's done nothing as the GM in nine frigging years,

1260
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 7: and he's being his true self. He's letting his guard

1261
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 7: down a little bit, and he's sounding like the arrogant

1262
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 7: jerk that he actually does come off to be.

1263
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 3: And it's just I'm glad, Steve.

1264
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 2: Here's the thing.

1265
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 1: I'm glad you said comes off to be because, to

1266
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 1: be fair, I don't know that he is that way personally.

1267
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 1: I have heard great stories about Chris Ballard in terms

1268
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 1: of his interactions with people in the general public that

1269
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 1: he is by I mean, I've heard stories of him

1270
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 1: being a really nice guy. I just in that situation

1271
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 1: he seems to I did not think he handled it well.

1272
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 1: Kevin will round us out, Hi, Kevin, your thoughts.

1273
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 3: I'm sick of it.

1274
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 7: I'm over it, he's wants on aar Now we got

1275
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 7: to watch this playoff show for seventeen weeks again.

1276
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 3: This year the other eight wins season, right in the middle.

1277
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 4: Of the pack.

1278
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 3: It's time for Ballard to go.

1279
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 2: I'm out appreciate it.

1280
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 1: I thought the thing that was and listen, I'm sure

1281
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 1: if you're Chris Ballard, you probably were. I mean at

1282
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 1: the point where he said, like, look, are we going

1283
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 1: to ask about any other players on the roster? And

1284
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 1: I know that he has, he had said he was

1285
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 1: never going to make it about one player, that the

1286
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 1: National Football League was about more than one player on

1287
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 1: the roster. And I think that's always kind of for Ballard.

1288
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 1: I think that the quarterback position, it was in his

1289
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 1: interest when he took the job, and he had an

1290
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:08,320
Speaker 1: elite level talent in Andrew Luck, and he came out

1291
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 1: and said football is about more than one player on

1292
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 1: the roster. And he's not wrong in that, but the

1293
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 1: quarterback's the most important player. But I think at that time,

1294
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 1: what Chris Ballard wanted to make sure that people were

1295
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Speaker 1: aware of is that there were other players on the

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Speaker 1: roster because if the Colts were going to be successful,

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Speaker 1: he wanted the credit to also be for his ability

1298
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 1: to build the roster around Andrew Luck. And he wanted

1299
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Speaker 1: and I get it. I'm not saying that he's wrong

1300
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 1: there or that that mindset is wrong. He wanted to

1301
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Speaker 1: make sure that people knew that he could build around

1302
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck and that there was more to it than

1303
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 1: just the one guy, and that you needed competency around

1304
01:07:51,480 --> 01:08:00,200
Speaker 1: the quarterback. Now, nine years later, when you fail and

1305
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 1: you swing and a miss at your quarterback, you want

1306
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 1: to make sure that everybody knows there are other players

1307
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 1: on the roster, because you don't want the attention and

1308
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:08,479
Speaker 1: the focus being on the fact that in the most

1309
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 1: important draft pick of your tenure you missed. And sure,

1310
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 1: we can still say, and he can still say, be patient,

1311
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:19,679
Speaker 1: be patient, be patient, But he began it by saying

1312
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 1: that Anthony Richardson has come miles. And if he's come miles,

1313
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 1: then that means that he is a further, a more improved,

1314
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:35,880
Speaker 1: and a miles better version of the player that he

1315
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 1: was when he was a starter. So why was he

1316
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 1: a starter then? And if he is an exponentially more

1317
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 1: grown and better player now, why can he not win

1318
01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 1: the job? Now? There's an inconsistency of message there. And

1319
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:53,680
Speaker 1: if you have not talked to Anthony Richardson, but you've

1320
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 1: had a lot of talk with his agent and you're

1321
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 1: not trading him, and the agent comes out and says,

1322
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Speaker 1: we don't trust the Colts, I would imagine a lot

1323
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:10,120
Speaker 1: of those talks were explain you know, explanatory talks. But

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Speaker 1: I just thought I understand Ballard's frustration with getting asked

1325
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 1: the same questions over and over. I can appreciate that

1326
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 1: and respect it, But at the same time, he had

1327
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 1: to know that was coming. And I have always stated

1328
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 1: and said that while I can appreciate and respect and

1329
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 1: understand why, it would get old dealing with questions of

1330
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 1: people whose job it is to question the manner in

1331
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 1: which you go about your profession. That would get old, admittedly,

1332
01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 1: and I would get tired of it too. But at

1333
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 1: the same time, the men and women in that room

1334
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 1: asking the questions to Chris Ballard are the liaison between

1335
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 1: Chris Ballard and the fan base. And when he is

1336
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 1: speaking to Steven Holder, and he's speaking to James Boyd,

1337
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 1: and he's speaking to Kevin Bowen, and he's speaking to

1338
01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 1: Bob Kravitz, he's not just speaking to those men. He's

1339
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 1: speaking to the fans who want to hear the answer

1340
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 1: to what those men are asking. And when you try

1341
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:12,680
Speaker 1: to belittle the legitimacy of their question, you are in

1342
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 1: fact insulting, in my opinion, the passion of that fan base.

1343
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 1: And that's where he airs. You know, I say what

1344
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 1: you want about Like Kevin Pritchard didn't do a lot

1345
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 1: of talking this year, but when he did, I don't

1346
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 1: think that he took that same approach. And it hasn't

1347
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 1: always been gum drops and lollipops for the pacers either.

1348
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, right, But I just thought in

1349
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:41,800
Speaker 1: that situation he had a chance to go out there

1350
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 1: and really get people excited for the year, and I

1351
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:44,920
Speaker 1: thought he aired.

1352
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Speaker 2: I just did. And I don't think he's a bad guy.

1353
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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 1: I kind of get it, but I thought in that

1355
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Speaker 1: situation he aired rtt Lewis next? Is that right? Eddie

1356
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 1: reet Lewis will join us next? It would appear, base

1357
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 1: on the reaction that I've gotten.

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Speaker 3: That.

1359
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Speaker 1: And I totally get what Chris Balard was saying when

1360
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 1: he's like, look, if this doesn't work out, I'd have

1361
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:14,719
Speaker 1: to go get a real job, and that would suck.

1362
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 1: I totally get what he was saying, and I think

1363
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 1: he was trying to say it meaning to illuminate that

1364
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 1: he is aware of how fortunate he is to be

1365
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:24,479
Speaker 1: in the NFL. But that did not set well with

1366
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 1: a lot of fans. I think there were a lot

1367
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 1: of people that are like, well, I do work a

1368
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 1: real job forty hours a week and put in a

1369
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 1: lot of money, and I've got to determine whether I

1370
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:34,760
Speaker 1: have to go spend it on your football team.

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Speaker 2: And I think that rubbed a lot of people the

1372
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 2: wrong way.

1373
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Speaker 1: But the NFL getting underway a week from this weekend, obviously,

1374
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 1: at least from the cold standpoint, but this weekend, college

1375
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 1: football getting underway in earnest there are games taking place

1376
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:49,920
Speaker 1: all over the place. So what better person to talk

1377
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 1: to than Rhet Lewis, who, of course, you could see

1378
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:55,479
Speaker 1: on an NFL network. You also see him doing Big

1379
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:58,640
Speaker 1: ten coverage. He will have a USC and who did

1380
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 1: you say? USC is playing Eddie State Missouri State and

1381
01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 1: USC coming up. So RHTT joining us on the program

1382
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Speaker 1: and a pleasure as always, Rhet, I'm going to give

1383
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 1: you recipient's choice on blackjack. Here do you want to

1384
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 1: start on the college side or the pro side of

1385
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Speaker 1: our conversation.

1386
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Speaker 3: Let's start college side.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 3: It's game week, right and that gets me fired up.

1389
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Speaker 7: And we got the Hoosiers at the Rock on Saturday

1390
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 7: against Old Dominion and fired up for that one. I'll

1391
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Speaker 7: get a chance to watch it before USC most State

1392
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Speaker 7: kicks off.

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Speaker 3: So man, can't wait. A lot of insitipation, a lot

1394
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Speaker 3: of excitement.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's begin with talking about Indiana itself. I mean

1396
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Speaker 1: a year ago, the conversation was just about the overall

1397
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:39,560
Speaker 1: bravada of Kurt Signetti, and then Indiana backed that up obviously.

1398
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Speaker 1: And now it's funny because Signette's kind of become like

1399
01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:45,639
Speaker 1: this spokesperson for the Big Ten coaches when he talks

1400
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 1: about scheduling and everybody's like, yeah, what he said. You know,

1401
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 1: it's like he's he's become this kind of face of

1402
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 1: the conference, which I like. But in terms of backing

1403
01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:58,360
Speaker 1: up after the big year that Indiana had, what is

1404
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:01,960
Speaker 1: your expectation here of how they carry over what they

1405
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Speaker 1: did a year ago?

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Speaker 7: I mean, they've already set the standard, so anything less

1407
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 7: would be unexpected for me. And that's not to say

1408
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:13,680
Speaker 7: that they're gonna win eleven games, but to me like

1409
01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:17,559
Speaker 7: the way they played, the way they beat up on

1410
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 7: teams that they were supposed to beat, you know. And

1411
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:23,719
Speaker 7: now I think the next piece of that is playing

1412
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:26,479
Speaker 7: better in the biggest games, right, you know, against Ohio

1413
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:28,679
Speaker 7: State a year ago, against Notre Dame on the both

1414
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Speaker 7: those teams. You're gonna have that opportunity this year when

1415
01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:33,679
Speaker 7: the two toughest teams on your schedule are road games

1416
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:36,760
Speaker 7: at Audstin Stadium at Oregon and then of course in

1417
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 7: Happy Valley to play Penn State.

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Speaker 3: By the way, quick.

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Speaker 7: Trivia for you, Jake, Do you know who the last team,

1420
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 7: the last I should say this, who the last Big

1421
01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 7: ten team was to win at Augstin Stadium in Eugene, Oregon?

1422
01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:53,559
Speaker 1: I actually do know that it was Indiana, but it

1423
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:55,599
Speaker 1: was before Oregon was a Big ten team, right.

1424
01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:57,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yes, that's correct.

1425
01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:00,759
Speaker 7: And I was on that team and in that number

1426
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 7: and on the field as in two thousand and four

1427
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 7: forced i think seven six takeaways in that game and.

1428
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 3: Scored a kick return touchdown. But I digress.

1429
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 7: I just think that there is the standards what we

1430
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 7: saw last year, right, and now it's how much can

1431
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:20,880
Speaker 7: you raise the bar this year. That's what I'm looking for, right,

1432
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:22,200
Speaker 7: How much better are you going to be in the

1433
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:24,200
Speaker 7: biggest games? How much more?

1434
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Speaker 3: You know?

1435
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 7: Can you know, like to even break it down even further, like,

1436
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:30,880
Speaker 7: can you give Fernando Mendoz a little bit more time

1437
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:31,839
Speaker 7: than Curtis Roorkad?

1438
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:32,280
Speaker 3: You know?

1439
01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:34,599
Speaker 7: Can Elijah Shirat beat man coverage a little bit more

1440
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:37,400
Speaker 7: than he did against Notre Dame and against Ohio State?

1441
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:39,439
Speaker 7: Like can you do those things that will elevate your

1442
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:42,439
Speaker 7: play overall to put you in a better spot to

1443
01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:43,519
Speaker 7: win those big games?

1444
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:46,160
Speaker 1: When you look at the big ten rat you know,

1445
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 1: you know Indiana a year ago, one could certainly there

1446
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 1: were so many things that fell Indiana's way, but give

1447
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 1: Indiana credit, right, I mean, they had to go out

1448
01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 1: and win games. When you look this year. One of

1449
01:14:57,400 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 1: the fun things that I enjoyed doing is trying to

1450
01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:01,519
Speaker 1: look at the conference and find out, Okay, who is

1451
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 1: this year's Indiana. Maybe it's Indiana. It's this year's Indiana, right,

1452
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:07,439
Speaker 1: I Mean? But aside from that, is there a team

1453
01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 1: that when you look at it, you say, people might

1454
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 1: be sleeping on this program, but they're kind of quietly

1455
01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:17,640
Speaker 1: putting something together here, and the schedule is favorable for

1456
01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 1: them where they could make some noise anybody jump out

1457
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:20,479
Speaker 1: of you.

1458
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think people have immediately been drawn to Brett

1459
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 7: Bilma's Illinois squad. But they don't qualify to me because

1460
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 7: they're getting all kinds of correct right. I mean, like

1461
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:35,559
Speaker 7: they're they're top fifteen in the country at this point,

1462
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:37,840
Speaker 7: which is a little rich for me. You know, we'll

1463
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:39,599
Speaker 7: see what that looks like Week four at the Rock

1464
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 7: for Indiana Illinois, which by the way, is essentially a

1465
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 7: CFP entrance exam to me. As you get going in

1466
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 7: the conference schedule, you know the team that I would say, gosh,

1467
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:55,120
Speaker 7: I mean, it's it's tough because like Indiana was picked

1468
01:15:55,160 --> 01:15:58,640
Speaker 7: seventeenth last year, you know, and ended up whatever it was,

1469
01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:03,120
Speaker 7: third and conference. So I don't know that I'm picking

1470
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 7: Purdue to light that torch this year. I don't know

1471
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Speaker 7: that it's going to be Northwestern. I would say, to me,

1472
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 7: a team that is maybe a little bit under the

1473
01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 7: radar that should be talked about a little bit more

1474
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 7: in the landscape of being a college football playoff contender,

1475
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 7: a contender to win ten ish games. You know, once

1476
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:25,920
Speaker 7: we're into November is Minnesota. I think Minnesota's really good.

1477
01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:27,719
Speaker 7: I think they got one of the top three running

1478
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:29,640
Speaker 7: backs in this conference.

1479
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:31,320
Speaker 3: In Darius Taylor. They're breaking into a new.

1480
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:34,920
Speaker 7: Quarterback, but they got really good coaches on the offensive

1481
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:37,280
Speaker 7: and defensive side of the ball. Say what you want

1482
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:41,720
Speaker 7: about PJ. Fleck, but he is authentically himself and it

1483
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 7: resonates within that program.

1484
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:43,680
Speaker 3: I've seen it.

1485
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 7: I think Minnesota could kind of ruffle some feathers in

1486
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 7: the Big Ten this year.

1487
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 2: You know, RTT. I'll be honest. I think PJ.

1488
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:54,719
Speaker 1: Fleck from the time that he was at Western Michigan

1489
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:56,600
Speaker 1: and came into Minnesota, I think that there was the

1490
01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 1: expectation that you know, like, oh man, he's going to

1491
01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:02,000
Speaker 1: have an impact right away. And maybe he's been a

1492
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:05,000
Speaker 1: slower and they've been kind of patient with it. But

1493
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 1: I think he's a heck. I mean, I really like

1494
01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 1: him as a coach because to me, he has like

1495
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 1: a tactical approach that is where it's like things get

1496
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:18,719
Speaker 1: cleaned up and they don't play sloppy and shoot themselves

1497
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:20,880
Speaker 1: in the foot a lot, and now it's just a

1498
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:23,760
Speaker 1: matter of shoring together talent to go with that. Is

1499
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:25,560
Speaker 1: that a fair assessment of Minnesota.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely. And the other thing I'll say is like

1501
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:34,120
Speaker 7: he hired really good coaches, really good coordinators. Greg Harbo

1502
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:37,559
Speaker 7: Junior is one of the best offensive coordinators that nobody's

1503
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:40,320
Speaker 7: heard of yet. He does a really good job of

1504
01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:43,840
Speaker 7: getting quarterbacks going, Like obviously got Max Brozmer going last

1505
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:46,840
Speaker 7: year in you know, less than a calendar year that

1506
01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:50,160
Speaker 7: he's spent on campus after transferring in from the FCS.

1507
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:54,160
Speaker 7: By the way, Brozemer made the Vikings fifty three man

1508
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 7: rosters and undrafted free agent, so like, there's something good there,

1509
01:17:58,120 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 7: and he's got that opportunity to do that with a

1510
01:17:59,880 --> 01:18:02,559
Speaker 7: really talented kid in their quarterback this year. Drake lindsay,

1511
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:07,880
Speaker 7: I just think that he knows how to rally a program.

1512
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 7: He knows how to galvanize a group of young men.

1513
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:14,240
Speaker 7: He cares about the right things, and yeah, there's some

1514
01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:17,760
Speaker 7: stuff that some people look at as sticky, right, you know,

1515
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 7: with slogans and sayings and whatever, but it works, and

1516
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:24,120
Speaker 7: I think they've got an opportunity this year to really,

1517
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 7: you know, have some upward mobility.

1518
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:30,400
Speaker 1: I realized Red Lewis this does not include Indiana and Purdue,

1519
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:33,040
Speaker 1: but it is the conference. You've got USC coming up

1520
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:36,320
Speaker 1: this weekend. They're fascinating to me because when you think

1521
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:38,880
Speaker 1: SC you automatically think fall out of bed. You're a

1522
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:41,719
Speaker 1: top ten program. But last year was rough for them.

1523
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:43,400
Speaker 1: Where do things stand for SC?

1524
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:44,840
Speaker 3: Well?

1525
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 7: Unranked for the first time in a long time in

1526
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:50,599
Speaker 7: a preseason poll. But I think anybody who follows Indiana

1527
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:54,680
Speaker 7: knows preseason polls are kind of whatever, right, and I

1528
01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:56,400
Speaker 7: agree with that. I think they're going to be better

1529
01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 7: than they were a year ago. I think they are

1530
01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:02,720
Speaker 7: to me, take one of eleven teams in this conference

1531
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:09,360
Speaker 7: that could find their way into college football playoff contention

1532
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:10,520
Speaker 7: in November.

1533
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:11,800
Speaker 1: Now.

1534
01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:13,679
Speaker 7: A lot of that hinges on the play of quarterback

1535
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:16,639
Speaker 7: Jade and Mayava, who started four games last year, won

1536
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:18,599
Speaker 7: three of them, including a bowl game in a last

1537
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:21,640
Speaker 7: second touchdown pass for the victory in Texas. A and

1538
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:25,439
Speaker 7: M pretty damn good team there. He's got to be better.

1539
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 7: He's got to be a lot better. He threw four

1540
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:29,920
Speaker 7: touchdown three picks in that game. You take the picks out.

1541
01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 7: We're talking about really winning football here. Lincoln's always done

1542
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 7: well with quarterbacks. Last year was maybe even of the exception.

1543
01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:40,240
Speaker 7: So we'll see their defense is really good. Danton Lynn

1544
01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:42,360
Speaker 7: is going to be a head coach in college football

1545
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:45,200
Speaker 7: next year if he wants to be. He's very well

1546
01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:47,960
Speaker 7: compensated as a defensive coordinator at SC and he's one

1547
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 7: of the best in the country. And that defense is

1548
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:52,920
Speaker 7: only going to get better this year. So I think,

1549
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:55,720
Speaker 7: you know, this is a game that USC should win,

1550
01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:58,880
Speaker 7: has got to win. And then we'll see down the road,

1551
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:01,720
Speaker 7: you know, and made some they get some tougher opponents

1552
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:02,720
Speaker 7: here what they really look like.

1553
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:05,639
Speaker 1: Brett Lewis is our guest talking about the Big Ten

1554
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:07,960
Speaker 1: and National Football League as well. All right, I'm ready

1555
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:11,519
Speaker 1: to jump into the NFL here, right, you ready, Let's

1556
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:16,440
Speaker 1: let's begin obviously with the Colts. You know, the situation

1557
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:20,240
Speaker 1: at quarterback itself and Daniel Jones coming in and I think,

1558
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:22,800
Speaker 1: you know, Chris Ballard earlier today this press conference said

1559
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:26,680
Speaker 1: that Daniel jones approach reminds him of Alex Smith and

1560
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:28,920
Speaker 1: what Alex Smith did in Kansas City, And I get

1561
01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:33,759
Speaker 1: that quarterbacks sometimes change of scenery, change of expectation can

1562
01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:37,519
Speaker 1: can make a difference. And Jones gets that job over Richardson,

1563
01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:39,760
Speaker 1: do you look at that more as Daniel Jones won

1564
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:41,760
Speaker 1: that job or Anthony Richardson lost it.

1565
01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 7: You know, it's a complicated question because I think, you know,

1566
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:53,120
Speaker 7: the protection gas that the whole world saw in the

1567
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:54,480
Speaker 7: first week of the preseason.

1568
01:20:56,120 --> 01:20:56,840
Speaker 3: You know, in.

1569
01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:02,160
Speaker 7: Again, it's tough to it's tough to kind of look

1570
01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:04,640
Speaker 7: past that. But from the other side, it's also like

1571
01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:08,479
Speaker 7: that's basic stuff, Like sure, maybe it's one mistake in

1572
01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:10,720
Speaker 7: the landscape of the game, but it gets you hurt,

1573
01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 7: makes you unavailable, And I think to me, it really

1574
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:18,760
Speaker 7: comes down to trust and consistency, as Sheinsteiken said, but professionalism,

1575
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:22,519
Speaker 7: trust and professionalism. I think they have a higher degree

1576
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:25,240
Speaker 7: of trust that Daniel Jones is going to be available

1577
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:28,840
Speaker 7: for the team for the duration of the season and

1578
01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:34,599
Speaker 7: that he's going to do things proactively to protect that availability. Now, look,

1579
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:37,680
Speaker 7: freak injuries happened. Happened to Daniel Jones a couple of

1580
01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:40,599
Speaker 7: years ago with the ACL But I think I think

1581
01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:43,120
Speaker 7: there's a greater trust that they're going to be more

1582
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:45,600
Speaker 7: to have more continuity on offense because he's going to

1583
01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:47,840
Speaker 7: be out there. And then I think, you know, the

1584
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:50,639
Speaker 7: professionalism thing comes back to what his teammates said about

1585
01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:52,719
Speaker 7: him when the decision was made. I mean, I thought

1586
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:56,200
Speaker 7: one of the overwhelming themes inside that Colt's locker room

1587
01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 7: was talking about Daniel's work ethic, talking about, you know,

1588
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:01,519
Speaker 7: how he holds guy's accountable for what he needs, what

1589
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 7: they need to be doing to be successful in any

1590
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 7: given play. So I think that stuff right now is

1591
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:10,200
Speaker 7: just where Daniel Jones is. And that's not to say

1592
01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 7: that Richardson won't get there as as Chris Ballard mentioned today,

1593
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:18,439
Speaker 7: you know, but if look, if Daniel Jones plays well,

1594
01:22:18,479 --> 01:22:20,439
Speaker 7: I don't I don't see any more any further path

1595
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:23,600
Speaker 7: to a starting job for Richardson here in Indie. So

1596
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 7: I think it's a kind of a complicated situation.

1597
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:29,360
Speaker 1: Right when you were a player, did you find that

1598
01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:34,880
Speaker 1: getting the respect of your teammates then allows you to

1599
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 1: begin holding them accountable, or holding your teammates accountable then

1600
01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:41,400
Speaker 1: allows them to respect you.

1601
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:43,559
Speaker 7: No, it's the other way around. You got to earn that.

1602
01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:46,320
Speaker 7: You got to earn that, and I think you earn

1603
01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:49,120
Speaker 7: it by you know, talking to guys about it in

1604
01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:52,640
Speaker 7: the right way and saying, hey, look I need you,

1605
01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 7: I need you here, I need you to make this

1606
01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:56,360
Speaker 7: step instead of that step. I need you to go

1607
01:22:56,439 --> 01:22:58,639
Speaker 7: at this depth instead of that depth, and then when

1608
01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:01,479
Speaker 7: it works, you're like, Okay, I get it now, right,

1609
01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:04,800
Speaker 7: this guy knows what he's doing. And I think I

1610
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:06,559
Speaker 7: think you earned that trust with your work ethic. I

1611
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:10,800
Speaker 7: think you earned that trust with your availability. So I think,

1612
01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:15,400
Speaker 7: in my experience, the quarterback that commands the locker room

1613
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:18,479
Speaker 7: is the one that has earned it and not just

1614
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:20,880
Speaker 7: tried to do it from the jump, did.

1615
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:21,400
Speaker 2: There, guys?

1616
01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:21,679
Speaker 3: See?

1617
01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:24,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean if you've seen situations either on a

1618
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:26,960
Speaker 1: team that you're on or when you assess a team

1619
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 1: where the starting quarterback might not be the most talented quarterback,

1620
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:34,960
Speaker 1: but he's the one that is the best leader amongst

1621
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:37,080
Speaker 1: the quarterback room.

1622
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:40,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, like I could probably take you back

1623
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 7: to the and this is this is not the best

1624
01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:48,000
Speaker 7: example because it didn't ultimately lead to success. But I

1625
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:50,400
Speaker 7: think if you think back to when Indiana was deciding

1626
01:23:50,439 --> 01:23:53,720
Speaker 7: between Jack Tuttle and Connor Bayslack, I think there was

1627
01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:58,720
Speaker 7: there was a potential with talent that that kind of

1628
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:01,240
Speaker 7: led Connor to get that job. But I think that

1629
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:03,799
Speaker 7: there was the majority of that locker room was prepared

1630
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:05,880
Speaker 7: for Jack Tuttle to be the starting quarterback that year,

1631
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 7: and I think that they connect that they maybe connected

1632
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:12,400
Speaker 7: more with him, they'd been around him for a longer

1633
01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:14,240
Speaker 7: period of time. That's that's kind of part of the

1634
01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 7: deal in college football now. I actually asked Kurt Signetti

1635
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:19,040
Speaker 7: about this with Fernando Mendoza.

1636
01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:21,360
Speaker 3: I was like, have you seen the ways.

1637
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:25,559
Speaker 7: In which Fernando has connected with all corners of the

1638
01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 7: locker room? Because that, to me is when you, you know,

1639
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:33,280
Speaker 7: kind of earn that inherent leadership role as QB one

1640
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:36,519
Speaker 7: is when everybody else really rallies behind you. Look at

1641
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:39,720
Speaker 7: Jackson Dart in New York, like, have you watched the

1642
01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:42,280
Speaker 7: way that his teammates loved that dude that they play

1643
01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:44,280
Speaker 7: for that dude, that they celebrate that guy when he

1644
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:46,840
Speaker 7: goes out there and makes plays like that stuff is

1645
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 7: real And while it is quote unquote and intangible, I

1646
01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:52,920
Speaker 7: do think it has a tangible effect on the success

1647
01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 7: of a team.

1648
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:57,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, the you know, it's interesting when you look at

1649
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:01,120
Speaker 1: young quarterbacks, and I think that that's the thing. Rhet,

1650
01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:05,640
Speaker 1: like with Anthony Richardson earlier today, Chris Ballard met with

1651
01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:08,799
Speaker 1: the media and he was talking Rhet Lewis as our guest.

1652
01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:11,280
Speaker 1: He was talking about Richardson was and he was saying,

1653
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:14,000
Speaker 1: Richardson's just come you know, he's come miles from where

1654
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:18,600
Speaker 1: he was when he first arrived, essentially, which is peculiar.

1655
01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:23,240
Speaker 7: To me, because what's that but miles still to go correct.

1656
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:29,120
Speaker 1: But what's peculiar to me is you're saying that he

1657
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:32,680
Speaker 1: has come miles in terms of his growth, but the

1658
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:35,600
Speaker 1: place where he started seemingly was good enough for you

1659
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:38,679
Speaker 1: to determine that he's a starter, and now miles later

1660
01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:41,559
Speaker 1: he's he can't win the job. So that is an

1661
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:44,200
Speaker 1: admission of error, and the way that you handled this

1662
01:25:44,240 --> 01:25:48,760
Speaker 1: from the beginning, in your opinion, can that be salvaged

1663
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:49,760
Speaker 1: At this point?

1664
01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:55,360
Speaker 7: I think, look, I mean, Chris Ballard knows better than anybody,

1665
01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:58,639
Speaker 7: Sansichin knows better than anybody what the true feelings are there,

1666
01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 7: and I don't know that those ever really get shared

1667
01:26:01,160 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 7: in public. But at this point I would find it

1668
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:08,120
Speaker 7: very difficult to believe that there is a pass forward

1669
01:26:08,160 --> 01:26:10,599
Speaker 7: for Anthony Richardson to be a starting quarterback for the Colts.

1670
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:13,840
Speaker 7: I just think that this is one of those situations.

1671
01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:17,599
Speaker 7: You know, look, allah Daniel Jones, right, who has refound

1672
01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:20,920
Speaker 7: rediscovered himself as a starter in this league after you know,

1673
01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 7: kind of making the rounds after the Giants and then

1674
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:26,000
Speaker 7: going to Minnesota and ending up in Indy like that

1675
01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:29,280
Speaker 7: could be the path for Anthony, and maybe that's best,

1676
01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:30,120
Speaker 7: you know, maybe.

1677
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:32,160
Speaker 3: That's best for all parties. I think it's always.

1678
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:36,200
Speaker 7: Hard when you consider the resources that you use to

1679
01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:38,880
Speaker 7: acquire that player. Being the fourth overall pick in the draft,

1680
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:42,120
Speaker 7: you do the risks. We all know the risks of

1681
01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:45,479
Speaker 7: taking a quarterback that high, especially one with minimal experience

1682
01:26:45,479 --> 01:26:50,040
Speaker 7: at the college level. But I just I find it

1683
01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:53,799
Speaker 7: hard hard to believe. Now, Look, you know, something happens

1684
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:55,920
Speaker 7: with with Daniel Jones. They you know, they turned the

1685
01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:58,599
Speaker 7: ball over a bunch in the first four games. Maybe

1686
01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:01,360
Speaker 7: Anthony comes in and maybe the four games were really

1687
01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:03,880
Speaker 7: good for him, you know, kind of the way that

1688
01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:06,439
Speaker 7: they were for Bryce Young last year with the Panthers.

1689
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:08,840
Speaker 7: Came back in second half of the season, man with

1690
01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:10,760
Speaker 7: a different player, and now we're talking about him as

1691
01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 7: being the face of the franchise again.

1692
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:13,799
Speaker 3: I guess that would be possible.

1693
01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:18,280
Speaker 7: But if Daniel Jones plays this entire season, I just

1694
01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:21,760
Speaker 7: don't see any way that Richardson remains a viable QB

1695
01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:22,719
Speaker 7: one with this franchise.

1696
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:24,040
Speaker 2: I was thinking about this, Rhett.

1697
01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:27,679
Speaker 1: Can you imagine the worst case scenario of the Colts

1698
01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:30,080
Speaker 1: go ahead and start Daniel Jones all year he has

1699
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:33,120
Speaker 1: a Sam Darnold bounce back effect or the Alex Smith

1700
01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:36,200
Speaker 1: in Kansas City or Washington effect, and then as a result,

1701
01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:38,920
Speaker 1: some other franchise comes along and offers him like twenty

1702
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:40,760
Speaker 1: two million and signs them away, and the Colts are

1703
01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:43,160
Speaker 1: right back to square one again. Yeah, who knows, right,

1704
01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:46,120
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, stranger things that happen, all right, USC

1705
01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:49,240
Speaker 1: and Missouri State. You will have that game on Saturday

1706
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:50,760
Speaker 1: before we let you go. Give me a couple of

1707
01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:53,679
Speaker 1: other games that you have your eye on that maybe

1708
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:55,240
Speaker 1: you won't be able to even see it, but you're like, man,

1709
01:27:55,280 --> 01:27:56,559
Speaker 1: I'm going to go back and look at it because

1710
01:27:56,560 --> 01:27:58,040
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what takes place.

1711
01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:02,000
Speaker 7: Well, obviously it's a Sayton Texas. I mean that is

1712
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:04,040
Speaker 7: that is top billing for me. In the big new

1713
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:07,160
Speaker 7: pickoff slot, you got the battle for the Real Death

1714
01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 7: Valley between London and LSU, which I think is going

1715
01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 7: to be a great one two potential first round picks

1716
01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:15,880
Speaker 7: at quarters right there in Kate Club Nick for Clemson

1717
01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:17,320
Speaker 7: and Garrett Nutzmeyer for LSU.

1718
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:20,439
Speaker 3: Those two really rule the day for me there.

1719
01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:22,320
Speaker 7: Obviously, I'll have my eyes on on I You and

1720
01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:26,080
Speaker 7: Old Dominion. I'm really excited about what what Fernando Mendoza

1721
01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:27,560
Speaker 7: is going to bring to this offense. I think he

1722
01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:29,960
Speaker 7: can take it to another level than what we saw

1723
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 7: a year ago, which would you know, which would really

1724
01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:34,880
Speaker 7: you know, raise an already high bar.

1725
01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:38,680
Speaker 3: But those those are the three that.

1726
01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:41,599
Speaker 7: I'll be watching if I, you know, whenever I can. Obviously,

1727
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:45,360
Speaker 7: we've got a four thirty Pacific time kick, so it's

1728
01:28:45,439 --> 01:28:48,559
Speaker 7: thirty Eastern time kick at the Coliseum on Saturday night,

1729
01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:52,880
Speaker 7: and excited for that one. But yeah, man, it's it's

1730
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:54,559
Speaker 7: gonna be a grea day at college football. And then

1731
01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:56,439
Speaker 7: you know, we get to come right back at it

1732
01:28:56,520 --> 01:29:00,400
Speaker 7: and get the double dose on Saturday and then starting Thursday. Welcome,

1733
01:29:00,439 --> 01:29:03,639
Speaker 7: Welcome to the twenty twenty five NFL season, Rhett.

1734
01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:04,439
Speaker 2: I'm a diehard.

1735
01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:07,480
Speaker 1: This has nothing to do with sports talk in Indianapolis,

1736
01:29:07,479 --> 01:29:11,080
Speaker 1: but for what it's worth, I'm a huge, huge Clemson fan,

1737
01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:14,360
Speaker 1: have been a season ticket holder for Clemson football, and uh,

1738
01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:16,200
Speaker 1: that is the real Death Valley by the way, just

1739
01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:16,559
Speaker 1: so you know.

1740
01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:20,840
Speaker 3: Oh, oh okay, I'm from New Orleans, grew up in

1741
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:24,640
Speaker 3: the shadows of Tiger Stadium, So I don't know if

1742
01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:25,439
Speaker 3: I can agree with you.

1743
01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:27,440
Speaker 2: Who wins on Saturday.

1744
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:32,800
Speaker 7: Oh it's the Tigers. Brother Tiger Garrett, notts Meyer's gonna out.

1745
01:29:33,080 --> 01:29:39,479
Speaker 1: No, it's a Tiger. I don't right, right, right, listen,

1746
01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:43,320
Speaker 1: kidding aside REHD. The reality is this in terms of

1747
01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:45,880
Speaker 1: and it's ridiculous to say this before Labor Day, but

1748
01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:50,839
Speaker 1: in terms of the college football playoff landscape, you know, LSU,

1749
01:29:50,960 --> 01:29:52,800
Speaker 1: it would be better served for LSU to win it

1750
01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:54,880
Speaker 1: and get on that right path because Clemson, I think,

1751
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:58,040
Speaker 1: could lose that game and still if it's tight, still

1752
01:29:58,040 --> 01:30:00,840
Speaker 1: win the ACC outright, and still put themselves in very

1753
01:30:00,840 --> 01:30:03,760
Speaker 1: good position. But listen, I like LSU too. I mean,

1754
01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:07,360
Speaker 1: that is a fabulous Baton Rouge is beautiful, That campus

1755
01:30:07,439 --> 01:30:09,640
Speaker 1: is awesome, and that would be an awesome place to

1756
01:30:09,680 --> 01:30:11,040
Speaker 1: watch a game as well. So it should be a

1757
01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:12,320
Speaker 1: lot of fun, no question about it.

1758
01:30:12,439 --> 01:30:14,479
Speaker 7: Yeah, by the way, had tip to our guy to

1759
01:30:14,479 --> 01:30:17,080
Speaker 7: Tom Allen DC there at Clemson, like when he laid

1760
01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:19,280
Speaker 7: his head on the pillow, you know, twenty years ago

1761
01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:21,960
Speaker 7: he dreamt of having a defense this talented as he

1762
01:30:22,040 --> 01:30:25,080
Speaker 7: does at Clemson fear So, I'm excited to see it.

1763
01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:25,799
Speaker 3: Put it all together.

1764
01:30:25,840 --> 01:30:28,280
Speaker 1: There a lot of talent on both sides of that football.

1765
01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:29,320
Speaker 1: It's going to be a lot of fun. And then

1766
01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:32,120
Speaker 1: Texas Ohio State a big one, and USC and Missouri

1767
01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:32,599
Speaker 1: State as well.

1768
01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:33,519
Speaker 2: Appreciate it.

1769
01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:37,800
Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, thanks, Brother read Lewis joining the program here

1770
01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:41,200
Speaker 1: with us. All right, let's get back into it. In

1771
01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:43,960
Speaker 1: terms of the Chris Ballard press conference earlier today, there

1772
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:45,400
Speaker 1: are a couple of other things I think we should

1773
01:30:45,439 --> 01:30:45,720
Speaker 1: touch on.

1774
01:30:45,800 --> 01:30:46,599
Speaker 2: I mean he did.

1775
01:30:46,680 --> 01:30:50,439
Speaker 1: He definitely answered questions about Anthony Richardson. There were other

1776
01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:52,680
Speaker 1: things that he discussed, but not a lot. I mean,

1777
01:30:52,680 --> 01:30:56,439
Speaker 1: it was a lot of quarterback fire and just overall

1778
01:30:56,520 --> 01:30:59,679
Speaker 1: fire in about a twenty five or thirty minute session

1779
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:02,120
Speaker 1: from Chris Ballard. If you did not hear it, we

1780
01:31:02,120 --> 01:31:04,400
Speaker 1: will let you hear some of what he had to

1781
01:31:04,439 --> 01:31:07,880
Speaker 1: say and we'll do it next. Thank you, torht Lewis,

1782
01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:11,080
Speaker 1: first time, Ted Carriss Junior as well today Tom Dean Hart.

1783
01:31:11,439 --> 01:31:14,040
Speaker 1: All of those will be available in podcast form. We

1784
01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:17,040
Speaker 1: ask that you wait until after John's show before listening

1785
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:18,960
Speaker 1: to that so that you are still listening.

1786
01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:20,200
Speaker 2: To the radio station.

1787
01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:22,920
Speaker 1: I am sure that John will be talking plenty about

1788
01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:25,160
Speaker 1: as well, the guys in the morning. The Chris Ballard

1789
01:31:25,160 --> 01:31:27,880
Speaker 1: press conference from earlier today, there are several things to

1790
01:31:28,040 --> 01:31:34,519
Speaker 1: unpack from that, notably the questions that were asked about

1791
01:31:34,560 --> 01:31:40,440
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson. And that was the first thing that basically

1792
01:31:40,479 --> 01:31:42,479
Speaker 1: came out. He knew right off the top, Hey, listen,

1793
01:31:42,520 --> 01:31:44,479
Speaker 1: there are a lot of questions about the quarterback spot.

1794
01:31:44,560 --> 01:31:46,559
Speaker 1: Let's get right to it, et cetera. And he talked

1795
01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:53,840
Speaker 1: about Anthony Richardson sitting behind Daniel Jones and what exactly

1796
01:31:54,040 --> 01:31:57,960
Speaker 1: he anticipates for Anthony Richardson now with Daniel Jones being

1797
01:31:58,600 --> 01:32:00,120
Speaker 1: the starter at the quarterback.

1798
01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:05,960
Speaker 8: I think following Daniel and watching him work and if

1799
01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:09,040
Speaker 8: he continues with the growth that he's had, Like Anthony's

1800
01:32:09,080 --> 01:32:12,760
Speaker 8: been good. He has and he's made tremendous strides. Is

1801
01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:13,559
Speaker 8: he there yet?

1802
01:32:13,560 --> 01:32:13,640
Speaker 3: No?

1803
01:32:14,360 --> 01:32:15,640
Speaker 9: But does he have work to do?

1804
01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:16,040
Speaker 3: Yes?

1805
01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:20,840
Speaker 8: And Anthony will acknowledge that, like I'm really proud of.

1806
01:32:22,000 --> 01:32:24,040
Speaker 8: I mean, it's like one of the fun parts of

1807
01:32:24,080 --> 01:32:26,440
Speaker 8: this job is watching guys.

1808
01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:27,479
Speaker 9: Just start to really mature.

1809
01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:30,960
Speaker 8: And I know everybody thinks that a twenty twenty one

1810
01:32:31,000 --> 01:32:34,320
Speaker 8: to twenty two year old young man should be a

1811
01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:37,559
Speaker 8: grown man all right, and everything they do, but that

1812
01:32:37,680 --> 01:32:41,280
Speaker 8: is not That's not the case in any world. I

1813
01:32:41,320 --> 01:32:44,439
Speaker 8: don't with anything you're doing in life. Like these are

1814
01:32:44,479 --> 01:32:47,800
Speaker 8: young people and it takes some time. So to watch

1815
01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:50,640
Speaker 8: him grow and to continue to mature and then to

1816
01:32:50,800 --> 01:32:54,559
Speaker 8: handle the adversity. Like there's two ways you can handle this,

1817
01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:58,599
Speaker 8: Like you can go in the dumps, or you can

1818
01:32:58,840 --> 01:33:03,080
Speaker 8: accept the challenge and accept the challenge to keep getting better,

1819
01:33:03,880 --> 01:33:07,960
Speaker 8: be prepared, continue to work on your fundamentals, continue to

1820
01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:11,519
Speaker 8: work on the daily game planning that has to happen

1821
01:33:11,720 --> 01:33:15,240
Speaker 8: as a quarterback, to collaborate with the other quarterbacks in

1822
01:33:15,280 --> 01:33:19,280
Speaker 8: your game planning, and then being ready to go because

1823
01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:23,040
Speaker 8: you're one snap away. That's real. That is real, and

1824
01:33:23,040 --> 01:33:25,360
Speaker 8: that's the natural development. I know you want me to

1825
01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:27,840
Speaker 8: sit here and give you an A to B plan. Look,

1826
01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:32,479
Speaker 8: it's about daily, everyday work and doing it without the

1827
01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:33,719
Speaker 8: pressure of being the starter.

1828
01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:38,479
Speaker 1: Later, he was asked on whether or not he has

1829
01:33:38,600 --> 01:33:43,880
Speaker 1: talked to Anthony Richardson and the Anthony Richardson competition.

1830
01:33:44,280 --> 01:33:45,760
Speaker 8: Have not a lot of talks with ar but if

1831
01:33:45,760 --> 01:33:49,759
Speaker 8: they had a lot of talks with his agent, coaching staff, handles.

1832
01:33:49,840 --> 01:33:51,479
Speaker 8: You know, they talk to Anthony a bunch. I mean,

1833
01:33:51,479 --> 01:33:55,280
Speaker 8: I've talked to Anthony. Let me because the one thing

1834
01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:58,040
Speaker 8: I think is getting overshadowed a little bit is Daniel.

1835
01:34:00,120 --> 01:34:07,360
Speaker 8: Both of them competed, professional, battled to the end, and

1836
01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:09,280
Speaker 8: at the end of the day, Daniel, you know, won

1837
01:34:09,320 --> 01:34:12,080
Speaker 8: the job. Does that mean we're down on Anthony. No,

1838
01:34:12,880 --> 01:34:16,200
Speaker 8: but I don't want to, you know, dismiss that. You know,

1839
01:34:16,280 --> 01:34:18,600
Speaker 8: Daniel had a he said, a good run here. It

1840
01:34:18,720 --> 01:34:20,960
Speaker 8: reminds me a lot of Alex Smith that we had

1841
01:34:20,960 --> 01:34:25,600
Speaker 8: in Kansas City, who I thought was just the ultimate professional.

1842
01:34:26,880 --> 01:34:29,920
Speaker 8: Day in and day out, the team knew exactly what

1843
01:34:29,960 --> 01:34:31,760
Speaker 8: they were getting, and I feel that's kind of the

1844
01:34:31,800 --> 01:34:35,559
Speaker 8: same thing with Daniel. So, you know, I know the

1845
01:34:35,640 --> 01:34:38,360
Speaker 8: story has always been about Anthony, but also let's don't

1846
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:41,639
Speaker 8: lose sight of you know, Daniel did some good things,

1847
01:34:42,439 --> 01:34:43,759
Speaker 8: and he's been a really good professional.

1848
01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:45,880
Speaker 9: He's been through a lot, and then going to.

1849
01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:52,360
Speaker 8: Anthony, like I know, the negativity and it's easy to say, Okay,

1850
01:34:52,760 --> 01:34:54,200
Speaker 8: he's done, and I don't agree.

1851
01:34:54,479 --> 01:34:58,160
Speaker 9: I've said this numerous times. I do not agree with that.

1852
01:34:58,920 --> 01:35:05,519
Speaker 8: I think overcoming challenges and obstacles along the way are

1853
01:35:05,560 --> 01:35:06,560
Speaker 8: good for anybody.

1854
01:35:07,120 --> 01:35:07,479
Speaker 3: I do.

1855
01:35:08,040 --> 01:35:11,000
Speaker 8: I'm proud of Anthony of where he's at, how far

1856
01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:13,800
Speaker 8: he's come. He's come miles man. I want you to

1857
01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:17,639
Speaker 8: think back, you know, and it's tough on any young

1858
01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:22,360
Speaker 8: quarterback in this league. But for him to keep taking

1859
01:35:22,720 --> 01:35:25,840
Speaker 8: the gross steps that he that he has and to

1860
01:35:25,960 --> 01:35:29,559
Speaker 8: work so hard and then not get the goal for

1861
01:35:29,680 --> 01:35:33,160
Speaker 8: himself all right now, to continue to do that, that's

1862
01:35:33,200 --> 01:35:36,400
Speaker 8: when we got a chance to see real growth. And

1863
01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:42,120
Speaker 8: there's some value. There's a lot of value and sitting

1864
01:35:42,120 --> 01:35:47,480
Speaker 8: behind a guy that's a professional and watching and learning

1865
01:35:47,720 --> 01:35:51,240
Speaker 8: and growing and working on the things you need to

1866
01:35:51,240 --> 01:35:54,839
Speaker 8: work on without the same pressure of being the starter.

1867
01:35:55,760 --> 01:35:57,599
Speaker 9: There is there's a lot of good to that.

1868
01:35:59,840 --> 01:36:02,800
Speaker 1: I'm going to be a broken record here because I've

1869
01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:05,040
Speaker 1: been saying it all day, but I hear that and

1870
01:36:05,120 --> 01:36:10,200
Speaker 1: I'm going to say it again. When Chris Ballard says

1871
01:36:10,240 --> 01:36:13,800
Speaker 1: that Anthony Richardson, you know, has been overcoming obstacles and

1872
01:36:13,840 --> 01:36:17,479
Speaker 1: he's come miles and he talks about his growth, I

1873
01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:18,360
Speaker 1: can appreciate that.

1874
01:36:21,000 --> 01:36:21,759
Speaker 2: But if he's.

1875
01:36:23,160 --> 01:36:25,880
Speaker 1: If he has come miles, then that means he is

1876
01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:29,320
Speaker 1: miles removed. From what he was when he first came

1877
01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:33,680
Speaker 1: into the league, and yet miles removed from where he

1878
01:36:33,760 --> 01:36:36,040
Speaker 1: first came into the league is not good enough to

1879
01:36:36,080 --> 01:36:41,280
Speaker 1: win the starting job for the Indianapolis Colts, but where

1880
01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:43,439
Speaker 1: he was when he first came into the league was

1881
01:36:43,479 --> 01:36:48,960
Speaker 1: good enough to be the starter right away. That means

1882
01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:53,240
Speaker 1: either this is an over correction from a colossal mistake

1883
01:36:53,320 --> 01:37:00,000
Speaker 1: and misjudgment and misevaluation of Anthony Richardson, or it will

1884
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:05,320
Speaker 1: use putting too much trust and a young quarterback because

1885
01:37:05,320 --> 01:37:08,320
Speaker 1: you were not patient enough to let it organically play out.

1886
01:37:10,040 --> 01:37:14,200
Speaker 1: So for those reasons, I think it's challenging to ask

1887
01:37:14,240 --> 01:37:17,240
Speaker 1: your fan base to trust the process and be patient

1888
01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:21,760
Speaker 1: because you failed in both of those areas. You can't

1889
01:37:21,760 --> 01:37:25,600
Speaker 1: have it both ways, and there's an inconsistency there that

1890
01:37:25,720 --> 01:37:29,559
Speaker 1: I think people should be upset with. I think people

1891
01:37:29,560 --> 01:37:36,160
Speaker 1: should be upset with the plan that Chris Ballard was

1892
01:37:36,240 --> 01:37:38,559
Speaker 1: asked whether or not fans should believe in.

1893
01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:41,040
Speaker 9: I don't know how to answer. Why should people believe?

1894
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:41,600
Speaker 3: Like?

1895
01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:44,559
Speaker 8: I think you know the answer. They believe when you win.

1896
01:37:45,439 --> 01:37:47,559
Speaker 8: If you don't, they don't believe, like it wouldn't matter

1897
01:37:47,600 --> 01:37:50,479
Speaker 8: who's a quarterback. They wouldn't believe if you didn't win,

1898
01:37:50,600 --> 01:37:52,720
Speaker 8: they're not going to believe. If you win, they give

1899
01:37:52,720 --> 01:37:54,760
Speaker 8: you a little more benefit of the doubt, and then

1900
01:37:54,800 --> 01:37:58,200
Speaker 8: y'all help put doubt to make sure there's questions being asked.

1901
01:37:58,760 --> 01:38:01,400
Speaker 9: That's the only way I know how to answer that one.

1902
01:38:01,560 --> 01:38:03,640
Speaker 9: But I don't. I don't know what you want me

1903
01:38:03,680 --> 01:38:05,559
Speaker 9: to say when.

1904
01:38:05,439 --> 01:38:09,320
Speaker 1: All those fails. Blame the people asking the questions. I mean,

1905
01:38:09,320 --> 01:38:11,720
Speaker 1: that's how that comes off. I'm sorry it does. I'm

1906
01:38:11,720 --> 01:38:15,400
Speaker 1: not trying to be overly defensive of the media in

1907
01:38:15,479 --> 01:38:18,439
Speaker 1: the room by claiming that the guy answering the questions

1908
01:38:18,439 --> 01:38:21,799
Speaker 1: as being overly defensive. But that's what I'm doing because

1909
01:38:21,880 --> 01:38:26,680
Speaker 1: I thought at times he reverted back into like the

1910
01:38:26,720 --> 01:38:31,200
Speaker 1: ballard smirking laughter and the little subtle shots, right, And

1911
01:38:33,760 --> 01:38:35,479
Speaker 1: I think he has to be aware of the fact

1912
01:38:35,560 --> 01:38:37,679
Speaker 1: that fans are running out of patience.

1913
01:38:38,960 --> 01:38:39,559
Speaker 2: They just are.

1914
01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:43,240
Speaker 1: How many times do we need to be told to

1915
01:38:43,280 --> 01:38:45,200
Speaker 1: be patient? How many times do we need to be

1916
01:38:45,320 --> 01:38:50,519
Speaker 1: asked to believe? Further, it's year number nine. It's year

1917
01:38:50,640 --> 01:38:53,800
Speaker 1: nine since the Colts last won this division, which is

1918
01:38:53,840 --> 01:38:59,600
Speaker 1: the most mediocre division in the NFL. Who in the

1919
01:38:59,640 --> 01:39:05,400
Speaker 1: AF see South as a divisional winner has struck fear

1920
01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:16,320
Speaker 1: in the rest of the league. Houston, Yeah, Jacksonville, Tennessee, eh.

1921
01:39:16,360 --> 01:39:20,920
Speaker 1: And yet each of those franchises has won twice the

1922
01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:24,800
Speaker 1: division since the Colts last won one. And you've won

1923
01:39:24,840 --> 01:39:30,960
Speaker 1: a playoff game. And then when you're asked about whether

1924
01:39:31,040 --> 01:39:34,080
Speaker 1: or not you feel pressure or a hot seat on

1925
01:39:34,120 --> 01:39:37,080
Speaker 1: your job, and this is the part that most got

1926
01:39:37,120 --> 01:39:39,800
Speaker 1: to me, and it ended the press conference today. And yes,

1927
01:39:39,840 --> 01:39:41,680
Speaker 1: the majority of the conference in the press conference was

1928
01:39:41,680 --> 01:39:45,120
Speaker 1: about the quarterback position. It's the most important position in sports.

1929
01:39:46,200 --> 01:39:48,880
Speaker 1: It's the most important position on the roster. It's the

1930
01:39:48,920 --> 01:39:51,200
Speaker 1: one that you kicked the can forever and then finally

1931
01:39:51,280 --> 01:39:52,760
Speaker 1: had to go out and get a guy. And the

1932
01:39:52,800 --> 01:39:55,599
Speaker 1: guy that you got, you now are telling us has

1933
01:39:55,640 --> 01:39:58,519
Speaker 1: come miles from where he was when you selected him.

1934
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Speaker 1: But the miles from where you you were where he

1935
01:40:00,960 --> 01:40:03,320
Speaker 1: was when you selected him is still not good enough

1936
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Speaker 1: to be a starter of the National Football League. So

1937
01:40:06,320 --> 01:40:10,320
Speaker 1: why should we trust the evaluations of players coming out

1938
01:40:10,400 --> 01:40:16,040
Speaker 1: immediately after the combine? But then Chris Ballard was asked,

1939
01:40:16,040 --> 01:40:18,479
Speaker 1: and I believe it was our James Boyd that asked

1940
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Speaker 1: the question of whether or not he feels pressure about

1941
01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:24,280
Speaker 1: his job and for his job.

1942
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Speaker 8: I cared deeply about this organization in city. Okay, the

1943
01:40:29,160 --> 01:40:31,960
Speaker 8: fans way they treat you, they're great.

1944
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Speaker 1: Now.

1945
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Speaker 8: I got a few emails that that were nasty, But

1946
01:40:35,720 --> 01:40:38,840
Speaker 8: I always wonder if that's from what basement is some

1947
01:40:39,080 --> 01:40:47,120
Speaker 8: dude right that from but saying that, I don't, I

1948
01:40:47,160 --> 01:40:47,960
Speaker 8: just don't roll that way.

1949
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Speaker 9: I never have.

1950
01:40:48,439 --> 01:40:52,240
Speaker 8: I never rolled that way where I worry about, you know,

1951
01:40:52,320 --> 01:40:56,160
Speaker 8: what the future holds. I just I'm fortunate to work

1952
01:40:56,160 --> 01:41:00,640
Speaker 8: in the National Football League. I've always been grateful and

1953
01:41:00,720 --> 01:41:03,439
Speaker 8: I will never take one day for granted. Whatever the role,

1954
01:41:04,200 --> 01:41:06,280
Speaker 8: this is a unique place. I could have to go

1955
01:41:06,320 --> 01:41:08,599
Speaker 8: get a real job for a living. That would suck,

1956
01:41:09,560 --> 01:41:13,240
Speaker 8: That would really suck. So no pressure in that way.

1957
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Speaker 1: No, I I understand what he's saying there, But I'm

1958
01:41:21,920 --> 01:41:28,639
Speaker 1: going to go back to this. What separates good players

1959
01:41:28,640 --> 01:41:33,600
Speaker 1: from great players? You know when Kobe Bryant, and I

1960
01:41:33,640 --> 01:41:37,120
Speaker 1: wasn't a Kobe Bryant fan, but one of the stories

1961
01:41:37,120 --> 01:41:41,639
Speaker 1: that came out about Kobe Bryant after he passed was

1962
01:41:42,760 --> 01:41:44,400
Speaker 1: I was. And I don't remember if I was reading

1963
01:41:44,439 --> 01:41:46,320
Speaker 1: this or if I saw it on television, whatever it was,

1964
01:41:46,360 --> 01:41:50,120
Speaker 1: but it was a literally like a high school custodian

1965
01:41:50,280 --> 01:41:54,040
Speaker 1: in I think it was New Jersey, and he said, oh, yeah,

1966
01:41:54,040 --> 01:41:57,519
Speaker 1: I knew Kobe Bryant. Well, you're the custodian a like St.

1967
01:41:57,560 --> 01:42:00,360
Speaker 1: Anthony's High School and you know Camden, New Jersey or whatever.

1968
01:42:00,360 --> 01:42:02,880
Speaker 1: How in the world did you know Kobe Bryant. And

1969
01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:05,200
Speaker 1: he said, well, the Lakers were in town to play,

1970
01:42:05,240 --> 01:42:06,760
Speaker 1: whether it be the Nets to the Knicks, I don't

1971
01:42:06,760 --> 01:42:09,880
Speaker 1: remember who it was, but and I got a phone

1972
01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:13,200
Speaker 1: call from the Lakers and they said Kobe Bryant would

1973
01:42:13,280 --> 01:42:18,160
Speaker 1: like a gym to work out before practices, And so

1974
01:42:18,240 --> 01:42:20,320
Speaker 1: at five o'clock in the morning at this high school.

1975
01:42:20,360 --> 01:42:23,040
Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant would come in on the day of off

1976
01:42:23,120 --> 01:42:25,920
Speaker 1: days or shoot around days, or when the Lakers would

1977
01:42:25,920 --> 01:42:27,840
Speaker 1: fly in at one o'clock in the morning after a

1978
01:42:27,880 --> 01:42:31,400
Speaker 1: game in Charlotte, and Kobe Bryant was up at five

1979
01:42:31,439 --> 01:42:34,000
Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning and was in this high school

1980
01:42:34,840 --> 01:42:39,040
Speaker 1: shooting hunter shot today, running sprints, whatever else. And you

1981
01:42:39,120 --> 01:42:43,880
Speaker 1: heard there are legendary stories of players that talk about saying,

1982
01:42:43,920 --> 01:42:46,120
Speaker 1: you know, I wanted to prove to Kobe Bryant, or

1983
01:42:46,160 --> 01:42:48,439
Speaker 1: to Michael Jordan or guys that had those guys as

1984
01:42:48,439 --> 01:42:51,000
Speaker 1: teammates that I was willing to work hard, and I

1985
01:42:51,000 --> 01:42:53,000
Speaker 1: showed up at the gym at seven and they were

1986
01:42:53,439 --> 01:42:57,479
Speaker 1: walking off the floor covered in sweat. And why would

1987
01:42:57,560 --> 01:43:00,240
Speaker 1: players that were at the very best, the very top

1988
01:43:00,240 --> 01:43:02,960
Speaker 1: of their game still be working out to that level.

1989
01:43:04,120 --> 01:43:06,479
Speaker 1: It's because even when they were at the very top,

1990
01:43:07,400 --> 01:43:11,599
Speaker 1: they worried that somebody else was beating them. The fear

1991
01:43:11,680 --> 01:43:17,080
Speaker 1: of failure is what motivates the elite. And I'm not

1992
01:43:17,120 --> 01:43:21,160
Speaker 1: saying that you need to. I can completely respect out

1993
01:43:21,160 --> 01:43:24,360
Speaker 1: of Chris Ballard the perspective there of life in the

1994
01:43:24,360 --> 01:43:29,639
Speaker 1: bigger picture. I totally get it. But at the same time,

1995
01:43:30,160 --> 01:43:34,600
Speaker 1: this is professional sports. You make millions of millions of

1996
01:43:34,640 --> 01:43:39,160
Speaker 1: dollars as an executive because it is a business that

1997
01:43:39,240 --> 01:43:43,280
Speaker 1: is driven by people who do work a regular job,

1998
01:43:44,040 --> 01:43:46,480
Speaker 1: spending their regular money to come out and be supportive.

1999
01:43:47,479 --> 01:43:51,479
Speaker 1: And for that reason, even if you don't think it,

2000
01:43:53,000 --> 01:43:56,479
Speaker 1: the best answer there probably is yes, I'm driven every

2001
01:43:56,560 --> 01:44:00,439
Speaker 1: day by the drive to succeed. And that's why here

2002
01:44:01,400 --> 01:44:04,840
Speaker 1: instead of I don't worry about it, you should worry

2003
01:44:04,840 --> 01:44:09,320
Speaker 1: about it. You should publicly, you should worry about it

2004
01:44:10,240 --> 01:44:14,800
Speaker 1: because people in this town worry about it, and people

2005
01:44:14,880 --> 01:44:17,960
Speaker 1: that pay good money worry about it, and people that

2006
01:44:19,160 --> 01:44:22,680
Speaker 1: make sacrifices for their Sunday worry about it. And I

2007
01:44:22,840 --> 01:44:26,960
Speaker 1: totally understand and respect and Chris Ballard from I don't

2008
01:44:27,000 --> 01:44:30,880
Speaker 1: know Chris Ballard. I've interacted with him, doesn't mean that

2009
01:44:30,920 --> 01:44:34,160
Speaker 1: I know him. I've heard very good stories about him

2010
01:44:34,280 --> 01:44:38,400
Speaker 1: as a person in the community, and I respect that.

2011
01:44:40,520 --> 01:44:43,280
Speaker 1: But for somebody that claims that they don't feel the

2012
01:44:43,360 --> 01:44:47,160
Speaker 1: pressure of their job, I thought today he sounded like

2013
01:44:47,280 --> 01:44:49,760
Speaker 1: a guy that was wilting under the pressure of the

2014
01:44:49,800 --> 01:44:54,800
Speaker 1: failures of his job. That's how he sounded. He was defensive,

2015
01:44:55,560 --> 01:45:00,479
Speaker 1: he was at times arrogant, he was condescend.

2016
01:45:01,880 --> 01:45:02,439
Speaker 2: He was.

2017
01:45:04,720 --> 01:45:07,960
Speaker 1: I thought, at times subtle and like taking a swipe.

2018
01:45:09,080 --> 01:45:12,280
Speaker 1: And I do understand a lot of why that would

2019
01:45:12,320 --> 01:45:14,040
Speaker 1: be the case. There's an element of human nature. It

2020
01:45:14,040 --> 01:45:16,599
Speaker 1: doesn't make him a bad person. At times, it makes

2021
01:45:16,640 --> 01:45:18,599
Speaker 1: him a flawed one, and in this case, he has

2022
01:45:18,680 --> 01:45:21,920
Speaker 1: flawed in his job. Jake, the fact that the Cults

2023
01:45:21,920 --> 01:45:24,799
Speaker 1: are pseudo admitting that they made an initial strategic mistake

2024
01:45:25,240 --> 01:45:27,240
Speaker 1: and starting Anthony right out of the bat, and his

2025
01:45:27,320 --> 01:45:30,920
Speaker 1: potential to still become a solid player are not mutually exclusive.

2026
01:45:31,600 --> 01:45:33,479
Speaker 1: You seem to be wanting to keep on hammering the

2027
01:45:33,520 --> 01:45:36,639
Speaker 1: fact that they screwed up. Yes, they screwed up. That

2028
01:45:36,680 --> 01:45:39,200
Speaker 1: does not negate the fact that he could potentially be

2029
01:45:39,240 --> 01:45:44,040
Speaker 1: a very good player. Again, I get that, But how

2030
01:45:44,040 --> 01:45:47,080
Speaker 1: many times do you do you at some point, you know,

2031
01:45:47,240 --> 01:45:50,960
Speaker 1: fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame

2032
01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:54,280
Speaker 1: on me? And for Anthony Richards, And how many times

2033
01:45:54,280 --> 01:45:56,240
Speaker 1: are we going to be told no, no, no, This

2034
01:45:56,320 --> 01:45:58,559
Speaker 1: is the time that we're telling you just wait, like,

2035
01:45:58,640 --> 01:46:00,920
Speaker 1: this is where it's gonna it's gonna happen. This is

2036
01:46:00,960 --> 01:46:03,240
Speaker 1: where the wake up's gonna happen. This is where the

2037
01:46:03,240 --> 01:46:08,040
Speaker 1: wakeup's gonna happen. You can only go through that and

2038
01:46:08,160 --> 01:46:11,360
Speaker 1: ask your fan base that patience or that redirect or

2039
01:46:11,360 --> 01:46:14,080
Speaker 1: that repause. You can only so many times take out

2040
01:46:14,120 --> 01:46:17,240
Speaker 1: the cartridge, blow on it and put it back in

2041
01:46:17,280 --> 01:46:21,160
Speaker 1: the Nintendo machine. You can only hit control alt resets

2042
01:46:21,200 --> 01:46:24,000
Speaker 1: so many times. You can only hit volume up, volume down,

2043
01:46:24,040 --> 01:46:25,840
Speaker 1: and then hold the start button so many times and

2044
01:46:25,880 --> 01:46:27,720
Speaker 1: wait for the white apple to appear back on your

2045
01:46:27,720 --> 01:46:30,000
Speaker 1: phone so many times before you're like, you know what,

2046
01:46:30,040 --> 01:46:33,680
Speaker 1: this thing might just not be working and I think

2047
01:46:33,720 --> 01:46:36,439
Speaker 1: that's where a lot of people are. I do, and

2048
01:46:36,479 --> 01:46:40,240
Speaker 1: I get it. I get that. For Chris Ballard, you

2049
01:46:40,280 --> 01:46:42,120
Speaker 1: get tired of hearing the question from James Boyd and

2050
01:46:42,200 --> 01:46:45,600
Speaker 1: Kevin Bowen and Bob Kravitz and Steven Holder. I get it.

2051
01:46:45,680 --> 01:46:48,320
Speaker 1: I totally understand it. But there's also an element of

2052
01:46:48,320 --> 01:46:52,000
Speaker 1: don't shoot the messenger until you get if you have

2053
01:46:52,040 --> 01:46:57,040
Speaker 1: a better message. But it's the same old song and dance.

2054
01:46:57,120 --> 01:47:01,360
Speaker 1: It's we're in year nine to this. We literally could

2055
01:47:01,360 --> 01:47:04,200
Speaker 1: have played last year's press conference from the day that

2056
01:47:04,240 --> 01:47:06,760
Speaker 1: the roster was set, and I'll bet you seventy five

2057
01:47:06,800 --> 01:47:08,560
Speaker 1: percent of the audience would not have realized that was

2058
01:47:08,600 --> 01:47:11,920
Speaker 1: from a year ago, because maybe the names might be different,

2059
01:47:13,400 --> 01:47:16,559
Speaker 1: but the tunes the same. And that's the part to me.

2060
01:47:17,320 --> 01:47:21,280
Speaker 1: I just feel like people that pay good money to

2061
01:47:21,360 --> 01:47:23,960
Speaker 1: go down and watch a football team in the most

2062
01:47:24,000 --> 01:47:29,120
Speaker 1: publicly subsidized sports venue in America deserve better. They deserve

2063
01:47:29,160 --> 01:47:35,719
Speaker 1: better analysis, they deserve better prognostication, and they deserve more transparency.

2064
01:47:36,720 --> 01:47:39,240
Speaker 1: Have you ever watched The Wall, by the way, Eddie

2065
01:47:39,760 --> 01:47:41,400
Speaker 1: the Pink Floyd movie The Wall?

2066
01:47:41,800 --> 01:47:44,680
Speaker 2: No, I thought you were reference. I think there was

2067
01:47:44,720 --> 01:47:45,920
Speaker 2: a game show called The Wall at one.

2068
01:47:46,000 --> 01:47:48,480
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there is. I thought that's what you were referencing.

2069
01:47:49,439 --> 01:47:53,280
Speaker 1: Chris Hardwick was the host of the Wall Game Show.

2070
01:47:53,400 --> 01:47:56,360
Speaker 1: And Chris Hardwick was my one week roommate at the

2071
01:47:56,479 --> 01:48:00,400
Speaker 1: MTV Beach House in nineteen ninety four. Really was one

2072
01:48:00,439 --> 01:48:02,640
Speaker 1: of the VJs and I was an intern and we

2073
01:48:02,680 --> 01:48:06,599
Speaker 1: stayed at a bed and breakfast and Quag, New York.

2074
01:48:08,160 --> 01:48:08,680
Speaker 2: Excuse me.

2075
01:48:10,040 --> 01:48:13,559
Speaker 1: Quagg is a beach town on Long Island, and that's

2076
01:48:13,600 --> 01:48:16,240
Speaker 1: where the MTV Beach House was. How was that spelled,

2077
01:48:16,280 --> 01:48:19,880
Speaker 1: by the way, just for I believe, let's okay, hold on,

2078
01:48:20,520 --> 01:48:26,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with q U O g u e Quagg,

2079
01:48:26,400 --> 01:48:28,360
Speaker 1: New York. It's out near the Hamptons, Is that right?

2080
01:48:29,960 --> 01:48:36,040
Speaker 1: Q u O g u e uh huh correct. I'm

2081
01:48:36,120 --> 01:48:40,960
Speaker 1: very proud of myself for that. Speaking of Long Island,

2082
01:48:44,000 --> 01:48:46,080
Speaker 1: my cousin and I when we did that trip and

2083
01:48:46,120 --> 01:48:49,800
Speaker 1: went to that concert in England afterwards, my cousin's like,

2084
01:48:49,840 --> 01:48:51,320
Speaker 1: you know, it was really the first time that my

2085
01:48:51,360 --> 01:48:53,280
Speaker 1: cousin and I had done, like just the two of us,

2086
01:48:53,320 --> 01:48:55,439
Speaker 1: like done something like that, and so he said we should,

2087
01:48:55,960 --> 01:48:58,759
Speaker 1: you know, let's do it again. Let's pick another trip,

2088
01:49:00,040 --> 01:49:02,719
Speaker 1: and so we were thinking of things to do, bucket

2089
01:49:02,760 --> 01:49:04,920
Speaker 1: list type things to do together now that we're just

2090
01:49:05,000 --> 01:49:08,000
Speaker 1: you know, a couple old guys, and what about down

2091
01:49:08,080 --> 01:49:13,479
Speaker 1: under boy, that'd be unbelievable, right, But one of the

2092
01:49:13,520 --> 01:49:16,920
Speaker 1: things that I said, and I don't know why this,

2093
01:49:17,080 --> 01:49:20,080
Speaker 1: I just think it would be so much fun. You know,

2094
01:49:20,120 --> 01:49:22,320
Speaker 1: a lot of people go out to Vegas for the

2095
01:49:22,360 --> 01:49:24,840
Speaker 1: opening round of the NCAA tournament, or people will go

2096
01:49:24,920 --> 01:49:27,280
Speaker 1: you know, you hear all of those different things. I

2097
01:49:27,320 --> 01:49:29,240
Speaker 1: think one of the most fun things to do would

2098
01:49:29,280 --> 01:49:31,000
Speaker 1: be to just go out to New York City for

2099
01:49:31,120 --> 01:49:33,800
Speaker 1: the US Open. I mean I was watching it last

2100
01:49:33,840 --> 01:49:37,720
Speaker 1: night until late. I love the US Open. I think

2101
01:49:37,720 --> 01:49:38,800
Speaker 1: it's super cool to watch.

2102
01:49:38,840 --> 01:49:41,760
Speaker 2: You were watching it last night until late. What's late

2103
01:49:41,800 --> 01:49:44,320
Speaker 2: for you, Jacob? Late for them? I mean it went

2104
01:49:44,360 --> 01:49:46,320
Speaker 2: on till like almost one o'clock in the morning last night.

2105
01:49:46,400 --> 01:49:49,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was good. Jay and b has walked in.

2106
01:49:49,600 --> 01:49:52,920
Speaker 1: By the way, let mean do the transition here, the

2107
01:49:52,920 --> 01:49:55,640
Speaker 1: crossover as we call it, like the Tim Hardaway crossover.

2108
01:49:56,640 --> 01:49:59,640
Speaker 1: This is the time of year right now where you

2109
01:49:59,760 --> 01:50:01,840
Speaker 1: kind of get that weather crossover, Like you get up

2110
01:50:01,880 --> 01:50:03,479
Speaker 1: in the morning it's a little bit chilly, then by

2111
01:50:03,520 --> 01:50:05,080
Speaker 1: the day it's hot, and so you're you're kind of

2112
01:50:05,080 --> 01:50:07,720
Speaker 1: going back and forth and we are probably another six

2113
01:50:07,760 --> 01:50:10,120
Speaker 1: weeks away from when then you got to make that

2114
01:50:10,200 --> 01:50:12,960
Speaker 1: decision of like man air conditioning, furnace, whatever it might be.

2115
01:50:13,640 --> 01:50:15,920
Speaker 1: And if you're crossing over from one temperature the next

2116
01:50:15,920 --> 01:50:18,519
Speaker 1: within the house, John we have the perfect place for

2117
01:50:18,560 --> 01:50:20,640
Speaker 1: you to go to make sure that you have everything

2118
01:50:21,000 --> 01:50:23,080
Speaker 1: up to speed and up to stuff when it comes

2119
01:50:23,080 --> 01:50:24,679
Speaker 1: to the perfect temperature in your home.

2120
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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2122
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2123
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2129
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Speaker 11: When we're in studio, now do we do that? I

2130
01:50:54,520 --> 01:50:57,040
Speaker 11: can also do this when I'm out too, if you don't,

2131
01:50:57,080 --> 01:50:59,559
Speaker 11: If you want to, there's no problem and that whatsoever. Hey,

2132
01:50:59,600 --> 01:51:02,759
Speaker 11: you mentioned the US Open as well. George Costanza eating

2133
01:51:02,760 --> 01:51:04,719
Speaker 11: a hot fud Sunday at the US Open.

2134
01:51:04,760 --> 01:51:06,240
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna get that guy a napkin.

2135
01:51:08,560 --> 01:51:10,880
Speaker 11: He lost his he lost his girl because she I

2136
01:51:10,920 --> 01:51:11,720
Speaker 11: think she saw that.

2137
01:51:11,760 --> 01:51:14,519
Speaker 2: But no, and then wasn't Craber a ballboy for the

2138
01:51:14,600 --> 01:51:15,240
Speaker 2: US He.

2139
01:51:15,160 --> 01:51:17,280
Speaker 11: Was a ball boy And that's that's when Jerry was

2140
01:51:17,320 --> 01:51:19,439
Speaker 11: going out with Marley Mattlin. They took her to the

2141
01:51:19,520 --> 01:51:22,519
Speaker 11: party to read, you know, you should stay after the

2142
01:51:22,520 --> 01:51:27,960
Speaker 11: party we can speak together. Wait, do you have a

2143
01:51:28,920 --> 01:51:32,200
Speaker 11: back when when tennis was really something and we really

2144
01:51:32,200 --> 01:51:36,800
Speaker 11: cared about it? The Jimmy Connors what nineteen ninety one

2145
01:51:37,080 --> 01:51:42,799
Speaker 11: the US Open when he beat Huge Mullet and pumping

2146
01:51:42,880 --> 01:51:45,920
Speaker 11: up the crowd, which was completely opposite personality as to

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Speaker 11: what Connors was really before that particular moment. But that's

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Speaker 11: always going to be a great moment.

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Speaker 1: I think that was one of the most iconic moments

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Speaker 1: and kind of the John I hate to say this,

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Speaker 1: that was kind of the last hurrah for you know,

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Speaker 1: grand like that level of tennis in the Grand American landscape,

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Speaker 1: because you know, we you were coming out of I

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Speaker 1: mean just throughout the mid eighties. Maybe I'm saying this

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Speaker 1: because it was the era in which I was watching

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Speaker 1: a lot of tennis, but you know, the Boris Becker

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Speaker 1: and then into Michael Chang, which which was kind of

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Speaker 1: in that crossover area as well Von Lindel and all

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Speaker 1: those guys. But then, and yes, you came into an

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Speaker 1: era of the greatest players probably of all time with

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Speaker 1: between Sampruson, Federer and Nadal, but the American interest level

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Speaker 1: just seemed to wane.

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Speaker 2: Great.

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Speaker 11: What has driven us away? Has something taken us away

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Speaker 11: or driven us away?

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Speaker 1: That is a very good question. I boy, could it

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Speaker 1: be the intension span? Do we just not have a

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Speaker 1: lot of options back then? Do we miss Pat Summer

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Speaker 1: all doing CBS US Open coverage? Because I would damn

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Speaker 1: straight agree that would be true. I mean that, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think all of it right, and just the lack

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Speaker 1: of you know, certainly male American star. I mean, I know,

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Speaker 1: obviously the greatest women's players of all timer American Now.

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Speaker 11: Hey, this date music history. We're gonna celebrate nineteen ninety one.

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Speaker 11: What album am I talking about?

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Speaker 1: It's gotta be gotta be the release of I still

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Speaker 1: remember my freshman year of college, Corey Logerston walking in

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Speaker 1: and going you got to hear this one song and

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Speaker 1: he put on smells like teen Spirit. I'm gonna guess

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Speaker 1: that it's Nevada Never.

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Speaker 11: It is not okay, in the same category. Okay, Pearl

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Speaker 11: Jam ten, it is Cold Jam ten. So Pearl Jam Nevada,

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Speaker 11: use your illusion. There were like six of them that

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Speaker 11: came out within like seven weeks of Blood, Sugar, Sex, Magic, Red, Hot, Chili,

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Speaker 11: pet Huge, Huge, Metallica Black.

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Speaker 2: Huge, Yeah to, I mean unbelievable. The run of albums there, right, So.

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Speaker 11: A Pearl Jam ten Once Even Flow Alive, Why go Black, Jeremy, Oceans, Porch, Garden,

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Speaker 11: Deep and Release? Now, A couple things stand out here,

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Speaker 11: the one word titles absolutely awesome. But what's your favorite

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Speaker 11: song from Pearl Jam's open Disclaimer? Yeah that I While

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Speaker 11: I don't dislike Pearl Jam, and last year when I

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Speaker 11: went to their concert, I was like, I get it.

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Speaker 11: I mean they put on an unbelievable show. Give me

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Speaker 11: the rundown one more time?

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 11: Once Even Flow Alive, Why go Black, Jeremy, Oceans, Porch, Boy, Garden,

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Speaker 11: Deep and Release.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it's a tough one, but I would go I

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Speaker 1: may go Black on that. I think Alive is.

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Speaker 11: Really good to that, I mean Alive it's hard to

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Speaker 11: beat alive ever, and there are very few songs that

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Speaker 11: you don't get tired of hearing, and that's one for me.

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Speaker 11: But Black Black it's almost like you're glad that you

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Speaker 11: hear it. But I mean it really it's kind of

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Speaker 11: like Hunger Strike to me. Always it always hits, always hits,

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Speaker 11: kind of Oh man, that's great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Hunger Strike.

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Speaker 11: You heard it when it plays, no matter how many

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Speaker 11: times it plays.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the beginning of the first forty five

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Speaker 1: seconds of Hunger Strike might be as good as forty

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Speaker 1: five seconds as you could get.

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Speaker 11: Well when you think about it, when you get the

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Speaker 11: voices of Vetter and Chris Cornell together, and then it

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Speaker 11: was so impactful.

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Speaker 1: It was so perfect the way and especially because it

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Speaker 1: was then released after the fact, right, I mean like

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Speaker 1: it was put together and you like, these guys were

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Speaker 1: no one's when they put it together, and then after

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Speaker 1: the fact that they put it out. Temple of the Dog.

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Speaker 11: I just don't there are very few songs to me

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Speaker 11: that are like like Hunger Strike.

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Speaker 1: I always liked just the single soundtrack, the single soundtrack had,

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Speaker 1: you know, because I mean that again, I don't know John,

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Speaker 1: the people that were around them can grasp just how.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that we have seen a US city

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Speaker 1: that has had this like overnight rise of relevance like

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Speaker 1: did and that from those bands and those movies, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean.

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Speaker 11: I remember Detroit was similar in Motown long before that.

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Speaker 11: That would have to be it. But I would agree

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Speaker 11: with that. The fact that Paul Westerberg has a solo

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Speaker 11: song on the Singles soundtrack is waiting for Somebody was

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Speaker 11: waiting for Somebody is an awesome sorry. And the fact

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Speaker 11: that I think what Vetter and uh Stone, Gossard and

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Speaker 11: Mike McCready were they all all three of those guys

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Speaker 11: were in Singles, right. And the band Citizen Dick with

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Speaker 11: Matt Dillon that was Eliad, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean the whole everyone was walking around wearing flannels forever.

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Speaker 1: I mean we went to college when when I always

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Speaker 1: say we had the misfortune to an extent of being

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Speaker 1: the era from College John that had the grunge era

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Speaker 1: and transitioned. You know, we had the grunge era and

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Speaker 1: then after that it was like the Girls Gone Wild

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Speaker 1: in the Spears era. Yeah, we missed that one by

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Speaker 1: a couple of years.

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Speaker 11: Earl jam Ten, that's in honor of.

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Speaker 2: Mookie Blaylock baby first name of the band.

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Speaker 11: That's pretty awesome, right there, you gotta admit.

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Speaker 1: All right, John's up next. I'm sure more on. Chris

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Speaker 1: Ballard and John will be with you until six o'clock

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Speaker 1: heating and air.

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Speaker 11: The sponsors, Johnny Chris Love of our cross Talk daily

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Speaker 11: right here on the fan seven.

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Speaker 1: Three three twenty one forty one. All right, we'll be

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Speaker 1: back with you at noon tomorrow. I think if you

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Speaker 1: listening to the Quarry Company