WEBVTT - Best of JMV 8/4/2026 0:00:01.280 --> 0:00:04.920 Andy Moore Automotive Group potline. He's been in Westfield. I 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:09.360 know Grand Park in Westfield for colts camp. Our good 0:00:09.400 --> 0:00:13.720 friend Ben Sola joins us from ESPN on ESPN dot com. 0:00:14.040 --> 0:00:15.720 Hey Ben, how's your yard doing? 0:00:18.000 --> 0:00:18.680 Hopefully well? 0:00:18.720 --> 0:00:20.800 I'mt been hauled in the last ten or so days, 0:00:20.840 --> 0:00:23.079 but the life report and the tomatoes are good, the 0:00:23.160 --> 0:00:25.560 cucumbers are good, and so we'll take that well. 0:00:25.560 --> 0:00:27.760 The reason why I bring this up we had you 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:31.160 on back during the draft and we had noticed via 0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:34.360 your video that you had some dead spots there. I 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:36.240 wanted to make sure that you got back on track 0:00:36.320 --> 0:00:36.559 with that. 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:41.160 I'm not a big lawn guy. A lot of water, 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:42.960 not a lot of biodiversity. 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:45.360 I'm bigger on the prairies and the plane and so 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:47.400 dead spots don't bother me too much. 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:48.840 I just mean somebody's walking. 0:00:48.600 --> 0:00:52.120 There, completely understand, all right? So will this consider the 0:00:52.240 --> 0:00:55.160 yard because we'll say the watch the wife has the 0:00:55.240 --> 0:01:00.440 yard in the proper position right now. So Ben, you 0:01:00.520 --> 0:01:04.560 tell me your thoughts on Daniel Jones, considering the injury, 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:08.679 the circumstances, and what you have witnessed up in Westfield, 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:10.280 how has he looked so far? 0:01:12.040 --> 0:01:13.280 Yeah, I think it looks quite good. 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:16.920 I wouldn't say that he looks like, you know, he's 0:01:16.959 --> 0:01:19.399 sprinting around there at full speed, you know, not. 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:21.120 A care in the world. You can tell that he's 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:23.720 still being careful with how he moves, but he looks 0:01:24.360 --> 0:01:25.280 no thing is moving. 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:26.840 Better than I would expect for a guy seven and 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:28.600 a half months off of achilles surgery. 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:31.120 They are not Molly coddling Ham, which I think is 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:32.240 a really good sign. Right. 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:35.520 I was talking to Shane Spiking after practice and I 0:01:35.520 --> 0:01:37.520 asked him if they have to adjust at all what 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:38.479 they call or some. 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:39.840 Of the you know, do we want to avoid the 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:41.640 rollouts or managing the reps? 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:43.160 And he was like, nothing like that, Like, you know, 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:45.840 we were getting a full sign from the medical staff, 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:47.600 you know, give whatever you want and he's going to 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:49.040 feel it out and he's just going to keep getting 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:52.320 stronger and stronger. And so I don't think when it 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:55.680 comes to week one we'll see a fully healthy Daniel Jones. 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:57.760 I think he might still be a little bit, you know, 0:01:57.920 --> 0:02:00.720 more careful and more ginger. How much you know, veilosophies, 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:02.040 you got to have him to drive in that ball 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:04.360 to back. But that's something it's still waits to be seen. 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:07.320 But as for the skates that we're at right now, 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:07.760 you got. 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:09.600 To be pleased with there is that so been so 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:12.440 luck of ESPN and ESPN dot Com is on the 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:15.560 Andy Moore Automatic Group POL line. So again, it's a 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:19.440 very small sample size so far in camp here, But 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:23.160 give me the most impressive aspect that you have witnessed 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:25.120 so far in Westfield with this Colts team? 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:27.239 What stands out above all else. 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:31.200 And Daniel Jones specifically are generally. 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:35.359 No just in general with a team personnel individually speaking, 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:37.520 personnel wise, whatever you think. 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:41.000 I was happy to see AJ Halsey out there with 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:42.640 the ones. They looked good on the day that I 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:45.120 was out there. That's a third round State dot LSU. 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:47.920 You know, they look like they're going to start at 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:51.120 least two rookies there C. J. Allen and linebacker and 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:54.239 Halsey and safety, and then they might start a third linebacker, 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:56.320 a third player I should say linebacker and in bright 0:02:56.400 --> 0:02:58.680 Stetch of their fourth round pick. And when all this 0:02:58.840 --> 0:03:01.520 was going down and they they were drafting all these rookies, 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:02.120 you know. 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:04.280 I've known Luanna Rumo from his time coach. 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:07.960 In the Bengals, and I know how important communication is 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:09.480 in his back end. You got to be a sharp 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:11.400 cookie to play in that defense. You got to be 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:13.799 able to idea it really fast and communicating really fast. 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:16.919 And so I'm seeing, you know, potentially two potentially three 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:19.880 rookie starters on the defense, and I was I'm pretty 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:20.880 worried about that. 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:21.960 That feels like an issue to me. 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:25.760 But in watching HALTI play and speaking Lou about him, 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:27.200 and speaking of Chris about him, and some of the 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:29.760 people there, you have the sense that they're really pleased with. 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:30.320 Where he's at. 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:32.720 The really polices are justin Walley the second year Nickel 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:34.640 is at and he knows only banged up last year. 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:37.720 You know, well we'll see you know, bullets aren't live 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:39.800 until weak one. That's a lot of rookies, a lot 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:41.480 of inexperienced players are going to be. 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:43.880 Playing that for that defense. So it's still something to watch. 0:03:44.480 --> 0:03:46.720 But I didn't see, you know, a lot of mental errors. 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:49.200 They seem very comfortable getting the young guys out there 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:51.840 right now and feel bit about where their communication was. 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:54.120 Hey, Ben, what do you look for in a camp 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:57.560 situation like this with the negatives and the positives from 0:03:57.560 --> 0:03:59.000 a team at this point of the season. 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:00.800 Great question. 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:03.800 It's because we misunderstand a lot of the stuff that 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:06.240 we're supposed to look for. The number one thing that 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:09.080 I want to see in a camp environment is how 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:11.520 well you know procedurally in process wise. 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:13.560 Are the teams getting into. 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:16.320 And out of their calls right from first team, secondeen, thirdeam? 0:04:16.600 --> 0:04:18.640 Are you getting the call from the sideline correct, You're 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:21.039 getting lined up in the correct spot? Are you snapping 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:23.000 the ball on time? Is everybody going where they should 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:24.880 be going? You guys, as every coach will tell you, 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:26.000 they run a lot. 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:29.160 Of simple stuff in camp. They're not really running anything complex. 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:32.440 And so you've got you know, linebackers dropp into the 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:34.760 same spot and zone coverage receivers running. 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:35.200 The same route. 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:37.080 They don't know the depth they're supposed to be at. 0:04:37.279 --> 0:04:39.440 You know, you you can tell pretty quick. You'll have 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:43.520 positional coaches and coordinators coming off of sideline screaming, hollering, 0:04:43.600 --> 0:04:48.080 gain frustrated because this is the simple, basic foundational stuff 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:49.880 we got to be able to do. And so a 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:52.880 good practice is an unremarkable practice. It's the one where 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:56.480 everything closed, everybody's moving fast, everybody knows their assignments. 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:57.160 You can. 0:04:57.440 --> 0:04:58.880 The other thing that I think is big to look 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:01.640 for during these camps is for some of these younger 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:04.400 players who haven't seen play at the NFL level, who 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:08.200 looks like they belong, who very clearly from a height, weight, speed, 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:12.360 movement perspective, is operating an NFL pace. Right Wally being 0:05:12.360 --> 0:05:14.200 an example of the cold last here is a third 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:15.680 round pick out of Minnesota. 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:17.240 You don't know if a third round pike is going 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:19.560 to start or not, right, it's kind of on the border. Well, 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:22.200 all the buzz was like this guy who is an nfler. 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:24.320 We can tell right away he's playing an NFL speed. 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:26.720 He's got the transitions we need to get, the physicality 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:27.039 we need. 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:29.640 This kind of belongs and he gets a bad injury 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:31.240 there against the Ravens enjoying practice. 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:32.400 You don't get to see him for a year. 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:36.320 But as a guy like Halsey, you can watch Halsey run, 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:38.680 watch him clicking clothes, make decisions. You can look at 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:40.080 the sides in the frame of him. You can watch 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:41.320 me in one on ones. 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:43.440 Covering tight ends and see all right, I can see 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:43.840 how this. 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:46.440 Player is going to work on an NFL field. Then 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:48.400 the second team guy comes on. You go, okay, yeah, 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:50.160 I can see this guy's a little bit small, a 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:52.280 little bit not so quick. That's why you know, he's 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:54.000 more on the backup side of things. And so a 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:57.520 lot of it is just checking boxes. Are you guys 0:05:57.560 --> 0:05:59.960 getting into an out of your operations quickly enough? 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:02.680 If you guys have the replesite physical tool cap to 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:05.359 survive at the NFL level, and then you know, we'll. 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:08.280 Get more serious about installing complex schemes and being able 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:10.200 to work together the unit and to be a deeper 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:12.120 and deeper week in the training camp into the season. 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:17.200 Ben Solac joins us on x at Benjamin, so like, oh, 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:20.240 lord man, you have one hundred and eighty thousand followers, Ben, 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:24.760 Holy crap. Yeah, I bought most of them, Lord of mercy. 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:27.200 Are they all bots? I have all bots? I think 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:30.320 on mind, I think they're all porn bots. Anytime I 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:32.760 mentioned like a porn reference, like I get all this 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:36.159 recap it's weird, but. 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:37.719 Yeah, I mean it's a weird sight. 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:40.800 No, it is, man, good job out of you, Ben Solac. 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:43.400 We loved him back in the spring time, even more 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:47.000 so right now on the anymore Automotive Group hootline. So 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:50.520 here's what's weird to me about the coast defensively, and 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:53.200 you were talking about the back end of that. They 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:57.640 are built for success kind of backwards here and here's 0:06:57.800 --> 0:06:59.279 see if you follow me and then you can play 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:02.200 off of this. So they have a lot of money, 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:04.600 a lot of experience, and a lot of playmaking ability 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:07.120 in the secondary. We know that especially on the corners 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:11.880 up front where normally teams really make the offenses pay 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:16.160 in consistent pressure. You have leatu La too. There's a 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:18.960 lot in that first round selection, but there's not a 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:23.040 lot of hope because they just haven't had that consistency 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:27.400 of getting after the quarterback. Is this if this defensive 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:32.320 situation holds up, Is this a philosophy you think that 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:35.800 can make some waves defensively? Can you rely on your 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:38.960 secondary more than you do the pressure you get up 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:41.280 front in an NFL defense in this era? 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:43.440 Yes to no. 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:46.720 And this is something that's kind and you know, thought 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:49.360 about and considered over the last several years. This team 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:50.840 is still a little bit more in the secondary, a 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:52.880 little bit less than the pass rush. The long and 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:56.640 the short of it is Chris Ballard believes very strongly 0:07:57.040 --> 0:08:01.360 in his ability to identify a rushers and draft them 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:04.120 and get functional play out of them on a rookie contract. Right, 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:07.160 That's kind of always been his way. And so guys 0:08:07.320 --> 0:08:09.880 like you know what you pay was in the building, 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:12.360 now he's gone. Deo Dango's in the building. Now he's gone. 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:14.840 Why is that well? Because he believes in bringing along 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:16.480 with out a lot too. And okay, you didn't get 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:19.760 a lot from JP twomloaut your one, but Ballard's going 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:22.680 to bound his ability to identify those players and to 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:24.080 develop them and to get good. 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:24.560 Play out of them. 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:27.360 The standing is sure wide receiver, Right, why are Michael 0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:29.960 Pittman and that my Mitchell no longer colts? 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:32.360 Well? Because we drafted and we developed out Piers. 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:34.559 We drafted and we developed Josh Downs and we believe 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:37.040 in our ability to bring those players along. And so 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:41.040 to me, it's less about a larger NFL philosophy when 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:43.480 it comes to the ways that the cults are approaching 0:08:43.480 --> 0:08:46.199 the edge rusher position, and more about Ballard thinking that 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:48.719 he's able to find players at that spot who can 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:51.160 be successful as round three, round four, round five. 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:53.760 Six, because at edge they might be a little bit standing. 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:56.240 Young and cheat deeps a tackle man. I mean, Default 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:59.480 and Grover are two older and very experienced players, and 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:01.360 rightfully so, because they, you know, they had to give 0:09:01.400 --> 0:09:03.040 it the tackle problems for a couple of years and 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:04.800 they got a little bit more serious in that position 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:07.360 with veterans, and so to me, it speaks the Ballads 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:10.040 thought about the edge rusher position more than anything else. 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:13.720 Ben Solight joins us. So does the Jeon Robertson deal 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:17.640 have any impact on Jonathan Taylor around here in your estimation. 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:21.559 Yeah, less than you might think, because Jon is a 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:25.680 second contract running back, this is his first extension. JT 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:28.400 is going to be a third contract running back, this 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:29.760 will be his second extension. 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:32.199 And so the j Keith deal. 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:35.520 Gets measured a little bit more against Blake Dereck Henry's 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:38.920 recent contract and Christian McCaffrey's recent contract because those guys 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:41.560 got those deals in their late twenties and Jk's only 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:42.160 twenty seven. 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:43.400 He came in the league pretty young. 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:46.040 But in general he's more gonna be measured against those 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:50.000 guys relative to Bjon who's a younger player, Jamiir Gibbs, 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:54.560 who's younger player now higher prize higher price. You know, 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:58.560 Jon and Jamiir Gibbs pulling up the overall, like top 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:01.400 ranking of the running back contract. Mart We've no still 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:05.560 help JT. But if Taylor and Tar's agent go to 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:08.280 the Colts and they say, well, Bejon just got you know, 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:11.439 twenty two point five million per year on the extension 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:13.600 or whatever it was, we want to come in above that, 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:16.079 that's gonna be a non starter because JT's done a 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:18.599 different stage in his career than bees on it in 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:19.760 terms of how he gets paid. 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:24.960 So, Ben, my philosophy is this, I wouldn't I wouldn't 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:28.959 jack with anything long term given the Coult situation right now. 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:30.959 And I want to get into the thirty. 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:34.400 One million dollars they have in salary cap right now 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:37.439 in just a second, because maybe you could utilize that. 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:38.640 But would you. 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:41.320 Agree with me on this, I mean, regarding Jonathan Taylor 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:42.079 or anything else. 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:43.960 I would not put. 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:48.200 A lot of long term money into what appears to 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:51.320 be right now a very short term improve it to 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:52.080 us project. 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:52.840 Would you agree? 0:10:54.480 --> 0:10:54.760 Yeah? 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:57.679 It's interesting to me, And I've got to concern I 0:10:57.800 --> 0:10:59.360 no reporting on this, Like I was just there and 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:01.200 I poked around it a little bit but I'm not 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:05.640 really getting anything from anybody there. I remember how Ballard 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:09.760 spoke about Taylor and his potential extension when the first 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:11.880 time around, when he finished his rookie deal and it 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:13.880 was time for him to get his first day contract, 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:15.800 and that was at a time where nobody was paying 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:18.720 running backs, and you know, got very contentious with the 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:21.280 Colton with Taylor and obviously and all ended up coming 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:22.200 together and he stayed. 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:25.040 But Ballard sounded like one of these general managers who's 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:26.200 very reticent. 0:11:25.920 --> 0:11:28.240 To pay running backs big money because you think that's 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:29.439 the spot where you can be able to not be 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:31.400 a little bit younger and a little bit cheaper. Well, 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:34.199 here we are now a few years older. Johnathan Taylor's 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:36.560 had over three hundred carried. He still last two years, 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:39.360 so he's got where on his tires, And all of 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:40.720 a sudden, the tone is very different. 0:11:40.880 --> 0:11:41.160 Right. 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:43.400 We were so excited I Johnathan Taylor were working on 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:46.640 actively to the keep peace for us me the fact 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:49.440 that bruship is different than it was back then, right, 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:53.679 And so I think the enthusiasm for paying Taylor and 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:57.000 giving him an extension on his third deal here to 0:11:57.120 --> 0:12:00.439 me is a reflection of how ownership feels about and 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:02.720 less so than Ballot has complete changed his tune about 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:03.120 the position. 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:05.760 Again, that's just me reading Sea Leaves. That's not anything 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:06.640 that I know for certain. 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:10.840 With that said, because it's a later contract for Taylor, 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:11.680 it's a third deal. 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:14.160 You're looking at a deal that'll be like, right. 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:17.200 Three years in length and probably only have guaranteed money 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:18.160 for the first two. 0:12:18.040 --> 0:12:18.679 Years in it. 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:20.640 And so I don't think you're in to see, you know, 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:23.360 some massive long term extentiment back of the money that's 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:25.880 that's for younger players, certainly not for a running back 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:27.760 into his late twenties. And so whether they get it 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:30.960 done or not, I don't expect big long term investment. 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:34.120 I expect a big chunk of upfront money, and then 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:35.560 there's going to be the ability to get out of 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:37.040 the deal pretty quickly as the years go on. 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:40.400 So min So Light joins us so thirty one million 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:44.800 dollars they have in camp room. We saw Davian Clowney 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:47.839 get signed by their arrival in Houston a couple of 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:52.600 days ago. I look at the edge rushing is needing 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:53.160 some help. 0:12:53.640 --> 0:12:55.040 Maybe they don't view it that way. 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:58.839 I look at the wide receiving position it needs some help. 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:01.400 Maybe they don't view what that way. What do you 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:04.120 think the protocol is here? Because they do have money 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:07.480 to spend, why have they not done it? Is something 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:10.319 because you were talking about veterans not wanting to report 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:13.320 right now. Is it something they will address or do 0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:16.280 they just simply put feel comfortable with the personnel that 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:17.240 they have right now? 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:22.040 Yeah, I couldn't tell you. 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:24.839 I think that they have some big extensions potentially counting 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:29.440 up with Jonathan Taylor, with Josh Down, So maybe they 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:31.560 don't want to go around spending money until they know 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:33.559 what they're going to do with some of those bigger deals. 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:35.920 Getfore a fuckers up. Gevor Stewart is up? 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:39.160 Any extensions even sign right now, you wouldn't expect to 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:42.040 impact the twenty twenty six caps very much, not like 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:44.280 they have any veteran holdouts to are demanding a pay 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:47.200 raise for twenty twenty six and so you can tell me, 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:48.920 all right, they're just kind of being careful with their 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:51.120 money because they have some big extensions. 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:51.360 They might sign. 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:53.800 I do think that in general they're going to be 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:57.120 a little bit cost cautious, just because they don't know 0:13:57.120 --> 0:13:57.880 if they're good or not. 0:13:58.040 --> 0:13:59.720 They don't know if Daniel Jones is back or not, 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:00.880 and so there's a. 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:02.880 You know't know if you're gonna be able to recapture 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:05.439 that magic of last season, and then do you want 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:06.680 to deal with a camp with your money? 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:09.800 I would be interested in adding a veteran wide receiver. 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:12.440 I do think that while I understand that they want 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:15.000 to expand out Pierce's role, expand Josh Down's role, and 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:17.240 then kind of run seat behind that, I still think 0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:19.680 that you could add another body to the action duel 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:22.680 in Lookuan Treval, Nick Westbrook fifteen a group, and that 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:24.640 feels like a very reasonable thing to do in the 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:25.480 modern NFL. 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:28.640 And Edge Rucker I agree. I think that you're gonna 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:29.240 see what. 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:30.720 You have with arden Key, you see what you have 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:33.720 with Tuiamlaile, and then essentially add a guy as well. 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:37.040 So they don't need thirty one million dollars. That's more 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:38.560 money than they need to hold right now. 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:40.560 I think, if anything, they're just being a little bit 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:44.000 careful with their long term spending because they don't really 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:46.520 know if they're going to be in a run at back, 0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:49.200 Daniel Jones is healthy, Shane stikeens to go, We're gonna 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:51.080 win twelve games again mode, or if. 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:53.000 There gonna be in a shoot Daniel Jones isn't healthy. 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:55.440 We're blowing it's up, we're firing everybody, and we're rebuilding 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:57.240 sort of a mode, and so it's kind of just 0:14:57.240 --> 0:14:58.320 a little bit don't touch. 0:14:58.160 --> 0:14:58.680 Anything right now. 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:03.640 So Ben personal p here, would you longer term Jonathan Taylor? 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:09.000 Given the circumstances organizationally right now, with the general manager, 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:11.040 with the head coach and this kind of prove it 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:14.720 to everybody philosophy, would you do it? 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:16.000 Sign up to a long term deal? 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:16.440 Yes? 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:19.760 Yeah, he's really good. I mean he's so good. 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:20.320 Right. 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:22.840 I like that because I would I wouldn't my plosively, 0:15:23.040 --> 0:15:24.000 I would not do it. 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:25.760 Am I wrong in that? I would not. 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:30.480 I wouldn't put any extra money into anything, knowing, not 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:32.200 knowing who is going. 0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:34.640 To lead this organization coming up next year. 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:37.200 Yeah, and that's very fair, right I. 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:40.280 So if you're if you're asking me from an ownership perspective, sure, 0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:42.840 then yeah, I think being cautious and then waiting on 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:45.240 it is very defensible if you're asking me from Hey, 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:47.280 if you're the general manager, if you're the one running 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:49.800 the team, who are you paying, I'm paying Jonathan Taylor 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:51.520 before I'm paying anybody else, Like You've just been the 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:53.720 lifelout of my offense for for six years now at 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:56.280 this point. If he's a highly dynamic runner, he was 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:58.880 off at the player of the year until Daniel Jones 0:15:58.920 --> 0:15:59.680 went down last season. 0:15:59.840 --> 0:16:01.479 We're talking about a league. 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:04.600 Leading back here, and so from a football perspective, obviously 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:05.720 still buy juice left. 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:06.720 I'd want to pay him. 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:08.200 I wouldn't want to give him, you know, tons of 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:10.600 guaranteed money twenty twenty nine, but I would want to 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:13.480 pay him. From an ownership perspective, where you're thinking about 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:16.120 maybe making a total head coaching general manager, a game 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:19.120 team change next year, I understand. 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:20.800 The renaissance to kind of punk future money on. 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:23.040 A guy I've been so lucky with us. 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:24.520 Before I'll let you go, I did want to ask 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:27.280 you about a player that's not yet back out there. 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:28.280 That is Alec Pearce. 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:32.600 He got a substantial raise contractually from the Colts in 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:35.640 the off season, and we saw him, you know, down 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:37.960 the field yards per catch. I mean, he was the 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:41.920