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Speaker 2: Focus and a vision.

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Speaker 1: And that's what comes from this from Ronesta Perez Carreo.

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Speaker 2: This is the battle Born.

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Speaker 1: It's he drink smoke. I'm Tony Katz and that right

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Speaker 1: there is America's favorite amateur drinker. Fingers molloy Forged in strength,

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Speaker 1: built for honor. What was that designed to perform? It's

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Speaker 1: a little hard to read there in the golds printing

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Speaker 2: And this is what they came up with.

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Speaker 1: A Connecticut broadleaf wrapper which I do love Mexicans and

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Speaker 2: It's a six by fifty six, which means it's six

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Speaker 1: Tea always makes fingers Loy laugh. And the ring gage

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Speaker 1: saddle leather. It's not a luxurious rapper. It's not even

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Speaker 1: Doesn't have that darkness, it doesn't have that oily sheen.

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Speaker 2: Just take a look at everything. Make sure you've got.

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Speaker 1: Your distilled water, and they're always distilled water in your

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Speaker 1: one of those packs, whether it's from bovetos I Car

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Speaker 2: They're not sponsors.

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Speaker 1: We just think the product does good work. Fingers, I'm

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Speaker 1: Matt, thank goodness, thank goodness. Get your notebooks out, pull

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Speaker 1: those out. What did you eat today? What did you

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Speaker 1: And the weather. The weather is suck in Indianapolis, Indiana.

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Speaker 1: I believe that's a technical term, fingers moloon.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it goes. It's actually scientific. We use it a

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Speaker 2: lot over at the Fingers Maloy Institute for Institutes of Institutes.

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Speaker 1: Everybody listening on WDBO in Orlando, we never liked you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. If everybody listening in Anchorage, We're sorry, we're complaining.

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Speaker 2: We'll stop now. So, yeah, I think you're right.

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Speaker 1: Smoking the Ornesta Perez Creo ep Coreo the battle Born, Uh,

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Speaker 1: if there is a spice, it is it is from

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Speaker 1: There's something fruity going on.

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Speaker 2: Okay, there's dark fruit a pair is it is it?

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Speaker 2: Is it a pear or is it more dark fruit

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Speaker 1: It's it says if the richness is a bit acidic.

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Speaker 1: And I had my hand.

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Speaker 2: Like on my cheek like I'm Jack Benny. By the way,

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Speaker 2: So I'm not sure yet. As I just lit this up.

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Speaker 2: The feel of this is right.

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Speaker 1: it's not shimmery. It's not shining. You don't feel it.

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Speaker 1: You know, you'd almost expect this to be like a

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Speaker 1: And if you don't like it, that's all right.

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Speaker 2: We're still gonna take your land. It's like like that's

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Speaker 2: it's like patent if he were going to smoke a cigar,

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Speaker 2: I just wish you could retrohal because did you just

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Speaker 1: it would be eat drinking smoke with finger. There's malloy

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Speaker 1: and guest and son Jack Benny Fingers malloy, is this

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have to get much more into the first third,

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Speaker 1: And by the way, proceeds from this go to a

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Speaker 2: See that career.

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Speaker 1: We love you that much. The Battleborn they call it

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Speaker 1: the Battleborn Warrior. You want to check that out, Grab

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Speaker 1: one smoke along with us. Let us know what you think.

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Speaker 2: So Black Friday has come in and is gone.

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Speaker 1: Yet somehow it still get all the Black Friday deals

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Speaker 1: like they're everywhere. It started three months ago, you can

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Speaker 1: except some of them made people unhappy. Tony Katz Fingers

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Speaker 1: bloyant that Target has angered the customers. They are upset,

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Speaker 2: Well, this already happened, Tony. They were already. They were

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Speaker 2: already angry because, as you know, Tony, one of my

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Speaker 2: does it better? Thank you so much so? Black Friday Target, Yes,

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Speaker 2: first one hundred shoppers who entered its store at six

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Speaker 2: said that one of these bags contained an extra prize,

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Speaker 2: ninja slushy Love me and Ninja slushy. You're gonna get

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Speaker 2: two of them, aren't you? Yes, one for each hand,

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Speaker 2: Beats headphones okay again, one fre each hand, maybe one

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Speaker 2: gift card to Target. Who wouldn't love that? So people

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Speaker 1: But only one person was gonna get that. Yes, so

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Speaker 1: one hundred bags. First hundred people, they're gonna swag bag.

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Speaker 1: In one of those bags, you could have ended up

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Speaker 2: Yes, but according to the street dot com, some customers

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Speaker 2: who received a gift bag without an extra prize were

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Speaker 2: not satisfied with the items inside the swag bag. Are

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Speaker 2: you ready for what was in the swag bag? I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna guess. I'm gonna guess. Huh.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say a five dollars gift card, but nope,

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Speaker 1: I think that'd be too much.

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Speaker 2: You're right, that is too much. I'm going to say

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Speaker 2: a pen I used suck and a gift card to Kmart.

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Speaker 2: About as valuable. Okay, uh, the small bag included.

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Speaker 1: Hold on, before we go any further. Was this at

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Speaker 1: all target locations or is.

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Speaker 2: This at a specific target location?

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Speaker 1: This? And is it? Is it in like a knockoff target?

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Speaker 2: No, and it's not okay. The the swag bag included

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Speaker 1: Wait what kind of gummies?

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Speaker 2: Apparently just the run of the mill candy kind of

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Speaker 2: some gummy bears, some gummy bears, A deck of Uno cards.

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Speaker 2: I already want to reverse. Your hair may have gotten

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Speaker 2: you suck?

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Speaker 2: They show up and they have Uno cards, which they

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Speaker 2: oil bomb versus oil.

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Speaker 1: Tone bomb versus oil has been the back and forth

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Speaker 2: McCoy's travel size shampoo and gummies. All right, that's stupid.

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Speaker 2: That is a fundamentally dumb thing to do. You and

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Speaker 2: I have not been in a target and how long

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Speaker 2: Yes, you know how long for me seventeen years ago.

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Speaker 1: Wow. If I'm putting things into a gift bag, thinking

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Speaker 1: Because it doesn't matter who you are, You're like, all right,

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Speaker 2: Something will cost I'll buy ten bucks.

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Speaker 1: It will cost me half. All right, I'll feel good.

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Speaker 1: Five hundred bucks agreed. Target times all the stores. But

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Speaker 1: I'm getting a gift for so and so won't cost

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Speaker 1: In their head, they'll be like Target is terrific, and

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Speaker 1: they'll buy more stuff. That would be number one. Number two?

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Speaker 1: I what would be the number.

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Speaker 2: Two thing that you would throw in from Target?

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Speaker 2: They don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't think all of them do the popcorn anymore.

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Speaker 1: So I would not have thrown in the popcorn. But

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Speaker 2: Go, you know what, stocking suffer?

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Speaker 1: Great?

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Speaker 2: You know what grandma needs? This perfect. They took care

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Speaker 2: of it for me.

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Speaker 2: It's it's all plastic and it costs a nickel. A

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Speaker 1: Loofa would have been don't eat the shampoo. Who doesn't

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Speaker 1: love a loofah? A loofah is a gift And if

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Speaker 1: you're gonna give the shampoo, first of.

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Speaker 2: All, it shouldn't be shampoo.

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Speaker 1: It should be some kind of of soap, some kind

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Speaker 2: Women in line, I completely agree with you, and I

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Speaker 2: assumed they were women because I am a sexist. I

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Speaker 2: completely agree with you that even though a five dollars

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Speaker 2: away thinking, Okay, I got a little something out of

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Speaker 2: this one one TikTok influencer Tony TikTok influence. Yes I'm

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Speaker 2: quoting this person from the street dot Com said, literally

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Speaker 2: just played myself waiting five hours outside in the cold

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Speaker 2: to try to get this Target swag bag, and I

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Speaker 2: did give everything away pretty much except for the I

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Speaker 2: guess it was ELF lip gloss and the Uno cards.

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Speaker 1: LF.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Elf, no friend because Elf. If you remember the

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Speaker 2: alien Elf, he had a big snot with the with

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Speaker 2: the lifts. That's ALF.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's ELFLF difference.

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Speaker 2: So there you have it. You've got people running to

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Speaker 2: TikTok right away, upset with target. Target has uh. Let

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Speaker 2: let's face it, without getting too deep into the story,

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Speaker 2: has has ticked off a lot of people in the

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Speaker 2: last few years, and this just seems like another example

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Speaker 1: It's it's not my fault that they don't know how

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Speaker 1: figured it out. It's not my fault that they don't

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Speaker 2: What are you saving the money for? What are you doing?

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Speaker 1: Don't think about Okay, we've got an extra thousand of these,

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Speaker 1: going to create the further connection between you and and

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Speaker 1: your buyer. It's the connection matter. Do we not understand marketing?

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Speaker 1: One on one? How do they feel about you?

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Speaker 2: I'm impressed that you understood ELF. Oh yeah, I'm a

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Speaker 2: man who knows many, many things many. So what does

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Speaker 2: ELF stand for?

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Speaker 1: It stands for electric light fun.

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Speaker 2: You know what's great about E Rink Smoke You end

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Speaker 2: up learning something.

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Speaker 1: That's sometimes what happens here. Eat Drink Smoke. It is

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Speaker 1: your cigar Bourbon Footy Extravaganza. I'm Tony Katz. That's fingers Bellow.

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Speaker 1: Let's go barbecue at Amazon dot com. We are smoking

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Speaker 1: from ep Koreo. This is the Battle Born. This was

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Speaker 1: done in conjunction with one of their employees who spent

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Speaker 1: twenty years in the military, and part of the proceeds

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Speaker 1: here goes to Fisherhouse Foundation, as the story goes, and

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Speaker 1: this cigar six six by fifty six six fifty six

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Speaker 1: comes in at twenty three dollars a stick here This

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Speaker 1: is with the Connecticut broad leaf in the wrapper, and

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Speaker 1: then it is a Mexican Nicaraguan and the binder, and

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Speaker 1: that's sen Andreas and the binder and then the nicaraguin

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Speaker 1: filler and you know, Mexicans and Andreas give you that

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Speaker 1: sweet a little bit of chocolate, things like that.

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Speaker 2: That's not what you get here.

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Speaker 1: As Fingers said, this is the kind of cigar that

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Speaker 1: would make you think a patent.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: It's coming straight forward and it's right at you, and

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Speaker 1: it's coming for blood, and if it could, it would

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Speaker 1: take on Stalin.

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Speaker 2: It's just that direct and that focused.

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Speaker 1: This from what we're told, the EPCOREO battle Born is

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Speaker 1: actually actually referred to as the battle Born Warrior because

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Speaker 1: it's the battle Born Warriors.

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Speaker 2: They say, this is a full fingers medium, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: this is not as big as I thought it would be.

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Speaker 1: It is a nice presentation though. It's actually a very

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Speaker 1: very nice spoke smoke. It's not as so much a

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Speaker 1: There's some nice smoke that comes off of it, but

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Speaker 1: none of those vanilla creams, none of that nuttiness. I

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Speaker 1: don't get any of that. Maybe it'll develop as we're

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Speaker 1: starting to work into the second third fingers, but so far,

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Speaker 1: nice cigar.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's rich a tobacco forward it to me.

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Speaker 1: There.

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Speaker 2: I was expecting it to have a little bit more

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Speaker 1: Right at slight at best.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's not a lot here that really you know,

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Speaker 2: there's not like four or five notes that you'll you know,

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Speaker 2: hit you right in the face or anything. It's just

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Speaker 2: been a very solid smoke and it's been very enjoyable.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's twenty three dollars a stick. Now it's

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Speaker 1: for the military, if you will with them in mind,

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Speaker 1: part of the proceeds goes to Fisher's house. You could

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Speaker 1: do it for those reasons. Twenty three is hard on

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Speaker 1: this cigar. But I will tell you it's smoking very well.

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Speaker 1: Because I said it felt dry, right, maybe it's my

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Speaker 1: humid or something else. I've done little touchups because you

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Speaker 2: It's smoking beautifully. Yeah, it's I mean, the cigar is

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Speaker 2: smoking very very well. I'm super I'm.

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Speaker 1: Super fleased with it.

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Speaker 2: If we're just gonna be completely honest.

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Speaker 1: We're not We're not gonna be completely honest. Listen, when

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Speaker 2: Now, you know what I'm saying. Where I'm going with

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Speaker 2: this is because it's a it's for a good cause, right,

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Speaker 2: I would prefer this to be fourteen dollars a stick,

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Speaker 2: fifteen dollars a stick, twenty three dollars a stick. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I would have one of these in my humid or

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Speaker 2: because it goes to a good cause. It's definitely worth

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Speaker 2: your time. It's been a pleasant smoking experience. But you

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Speaker 2: start getting twenty three dollars a stick, it's like, oh boy,

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Speaker 2: but because of what you know, it's a charity cigar,

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Speaker 2: and yeah, I would have these money.

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Speaker 1: And I get it. You know they're adding some more tobacco.

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Speaker 1: It's got that double binder that that's taking place there.

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's a little steep. Twenty three is a

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Speaker 1: little steep, But is it a nice stick? I'm I

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Speaker 1: would smoke another one. You think I'm not being fair.

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Speaker 1: At fifteen, you think, well you were at fourteen, Now

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Speaker 2: At fifteen. You start selling me on you Okay, okay,

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Speaker 2: but what what what what did you wish this cigar

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Speaker 1: I was expecting to spend three hundred dollars for this cigar.

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, yeah, fourteen to seventeen. I thought it would

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Speaker 1: be not giving you a hard time at all. You

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Speaker 1: But check it out for yourself and let us know

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Speaker 1: what you think of the battleborn here. It's smoking, well,

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Speaker 1: it's easy, it is not It is not a full,

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Speaker 1: it's not a full. Now medium with a little bit

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Speaker 2: You're just getting into the second third of the cigar.

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Speaker 2: So maybe well both of our opinions on this cigar

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Speaker 1: But maybe by the way, you want to get your

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Speaker 1: drink today? Right? You want to write all that down,

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Speaker 1: the weather that we talked about, and then break the

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Speaker 1: then what you want to do is what are the

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Speaker 1: flavors you're getting out of that? Right? Write them down

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Speaker 1: You do it again and you kind of see where

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Speaker 1: It's a great way to study and learn what you're

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Speaker 1: interested in. By the way, my HVAC system, the heat

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Speaker 1: opening and predator is going to come in. And it

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Speaker 1: just happened, and Fingers freaked, that was actually me. You know, no,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't. I know what you sound like. You sound

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Speaker 1: time Fingers for News of the week.

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Speaker 2: Tony CNBC has the story November private payrolls unexpectedly fell

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Speaker 2: by thirty two thousand.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so understand that when we're recording, we don't have

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Speaker 1: the official number yet from Bureau of Labor Statistics. It's

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Speaker 1: also a real question about what the BLS is going

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Speaker 1: to be able to put out right. What is it

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Speaker 1: that they're going to say, who's back at work post shutdown?

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Speaker 1: Everything else? I study, I talked to economists and my

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Speaker 1: other gig as a radio host syndicated, and then here

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Speaker 1: in Indianapolis, I have no idea what's going on. I

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Speaker 1: am Talley.

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Speaker 2: I nothing makes sense.

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Speaker 1: The ten year treasury is at four percent plus and

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Speaker 1: that's what the thirty year fixed mortgage is based on,

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Speaker 1: and that hasn't really moved. And then you see the

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Speaker 1: bitcoin prices and the crypto prices falling off a cliff.

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Speaker 2: You see that.

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Speaker 1: People spent more on Black Friday, nine point one percent

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Speaker 1: more on Black Friday, but they bought luxury goods, not

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Speaker 1: multiplicity of goods, so they spent more money on less things.

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Speaker 1: And then gold, at my last check was at forty

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Speaker 1: two hundred dollars an ounce, and silver is at fifty eight.

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Speaker 1: I sold my silver at fifty one, full disclosure, so early. Now.

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Speaker 1: I did well on the silver, I'm not complaining about it.

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Speaker 1: One of the few things I've done well at in

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Speaker 1: my investments. But fifty eight would have been better.

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Speaker 2: Also, fifty eight that's a hedge against inflation. Do you

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Speaker 2: tell me see what's going on? Well, you know, my

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Speaker 2: philosophy is sell low and buy high.

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Speaker 1: Bravo, thank you, And.

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Speaker 2: So now you tell me thirty thousand jobs, Yeah, thirty

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Speaker 2: two thousand. Here's what's interesting about these statistics. According to CNBC,

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Speaker 2: larger businesses entailing companies with fifty or more employees actually

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Speaker 2: reported in that gain of ninety thousand workers. Where the

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Speaker 2: job losses came were businesses with fewer than fifty employees.

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Speaker 2: That's where we saw the client of one hundred and

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Speaker 2: twenty thousand jobs.

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Speaker 1: So a little bit of this is an AI play,

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Speaker 1: and it's hard to blame the economy, although I'm telling

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Speaker 1: you I don't understand the economy. The AI play is

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Speaker 1: ups Verizon HP. They're shitting tens of thousands of jobs

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Speaker 1: on Amazon, tens of thousands of jobs.

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Speaker 2: Including on the corporate level.

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Speaker 1: They're going to try and replace things with AI and

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Speaker 1: see how much that that can work. So a lot

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Speaker 1: of this is just new tech revolution. And the thing

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Speaker 1: that's taking the jobs is also the thing that's pouring

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Speaker 1: trillions into the market. Money is being invested into AI,

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Speaker 1: infrastructure and chips and everything else left right and center.

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Speaker 1: So again it leads to this crazy level of confusion.

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Speaker 2: I'm not quite sure what to make of it. I

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Speaker 2: feel like it won't seem to matter what is reported

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Speaker 2: when it comes to the economy, because there's so much

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Speaker 2: uncertainty of AI's impact on the job market that you're

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Speaker 2: gonna have millions of Americans who are just gonna always

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Speaker 2: feel uneasy as they see AI's impact in how it's becoming.

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Speaker 2: But uneasy for what what are they? What is AI really.

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Speaker 1: Making someone feel uneasy about it?

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Speaker 2: It's easier to worry about losing your job than it

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Speaker 2: is to think that everything's going well because most people

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Speaker 2: are pessimists.

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Speaker 1: When you say most people, you mean, that's what I thought.

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Speaker 1: Is it really called car spreading? I mean, is that

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Speaker 1: really the terminology we're going with right now?

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Speaker 2: This is this is what they're.

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Speaker 1: Calling it in Europe.

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Speaker 2: They are oh, oh Europe, Well, okay, then.

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Speaker 1: T Drink Smoke. I'm Tony Katz. That's fingers from the way.

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Speaker 1: You find everything we do at Eat Drink Smoke show

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Speaker 1: dot com. Get the podcast wherever it is you get

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Speaker 1: your podcasts, just search for Eat Drink Smoke.

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Speaker 2: This is from the BBC. That's that's a that's a

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Speaker 2: big outfit in the UK.

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Speaker 1: The UK is the United Kingdom. The United Kingdom includes England.

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Speaker 1: I digress uh in the UK and across Europe, cars

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Speaker 1: are steadily becoming longer, wider, and.

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Speaker 2: Heavier same season consumers like them.

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Speaker 1: Big cars are seeing as practical, safe, and stylish, and

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Speaker 1: sales are growing, but some cities want to clamp down.

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Speaker 1: So the issue here is that people are getting bigger vehicles,

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Speaker 1: like we in the United States have come to realize

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Speaker 1: that the suv or the minivan is the only way

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Speaker 1: to travel and everything else is stupid, aside from a convertible.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's your Yeah, you're right. I have a

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Speaker 2: sedan that I use for my commute, and that's it's

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Speaker 2: a long commutey. As you know, Tony, I have sixty

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Speaker 2: two gigs, and so I'm in my car all the time,

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Speaker 2: and I have a more economical vehicle.

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Speaker 1: You said it before.

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Speaker 2: I have a Chevy volt.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with that.

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Speaker 2: One of the gigs that I have. They let me

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Speaker 2: charge it for free, so I get a lot of

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Speaker 2: free mileage out of that. Out of that volt, I

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Speaker 2: don't have to pay for a charge.

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Speaker 1: And your other vehicle is is an suv, Yes, And

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Speaker 1: your other vehicle after that is the most uneconomical pickup

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Speaker 1: truck in the history of the mankind.

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Speaker 2: Then that is the SSR. Yes, Chevy SSR. And I

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Speaker 2: have a GMC Acadia right.

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Speaker 1: So, by the way, the Chevy SSR he has is

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Speaker 1: in yellow. It is such a beautiful story. Can I

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Speaker 1: embarrass you? The truck that his father got for his mother,

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Speaker 1: then his mother passed away and now he has the

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Speaker 1: truck and it's in this yellow and it is so

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Speaker 1: incredibly cool to see him driving down the street, to

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Speaker 1: see the way he babies this thing. He has never

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Speaker 1: gone above thirty two miles an hour in this vehicle.

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Speaker 1: It's not true spect he's never gone above thirty. It's spectacle.

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Speaker 1: It is one of the more Every time I see

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Speaker 1: you in it, it's beautiful, it's touching.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, good for you.

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Speaker 1: Good. I love every every part of it. But you

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Speaker 1: have to admit that for as good as the bolt

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Speaker 1: is and over engineered and the hybrid, and America is

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Speaker 1: totally down with hybrids, and they aren't down with electric,

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Speaker 1: but hybrid makes perfect sense to Americans, are like, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: get me from from seventeen miles a gallon to forty

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Speaker 1: three miles a gallon, Fine by me, fine, I just

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Speaker 1: or to twenty six or to thirty great, but they

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Speaker 1: want big and they want comfortable. And I thought car

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Speaker 1: spreading had to do with man spreading when you're sitting

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Speaker 1: and you spread your legs because you just want to

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Speaker 1: really be all relaxed down there.

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Speaker 2: I hate it when people try, well, I'm not going

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Speaker 2: to go down that road. People trying to trying to

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Speaker 2: lecture guys on man spreading, and most of the people

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Speaker 2: who are doing that aren't men and don't understand. Having

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Speaker 2: said that, though, getting back to car spreading, you know

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Speaker 2: the VOLTI drive, I wish it were three quarter ton

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Speaker 2: pickup truck. Yeah, that would be the vehicle that I

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Speaker 2: would like to drive. But it's not economical. But you

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Speaker 2: feel safer in it. Big, more comfort, you know. It's

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Speaker 2: it's something that Europeans are starting to realize when for

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Speaker 2: years it felt like Europeans would make fun of Americans

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Speaker 2: and their big SUVs.

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Speaker 1: So I because I have a local sponsorship deal with

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Speaker 1: with a Ford dealership in Indianapolis, I drive the Ford Lightning,

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Speaker 1: the F one fifty Lightning, and there's a whole conversation

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Speaker 1: whether they're going to end the production of that. I

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Speaker 1: have a friend who has the Electric Hummer, the new

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Speaker 1: Hummer EV. I have driven both. The Hummer EV is

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Speaker 1: an absolutely beautiful, beautiful vehicle. I think that the Lightning

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Speaker 1: is more comfortable of a vehicle. I love it to death,

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Speaker 1: but I work from home. It's fine by me. Nobody

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Speaker 1: else is doing this. It doesn't make sense. Electric vehicle

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Speaker 1: makes sense for like four percent of the population. But

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Speaker 1: I have tried from Ford the electric Mustang, which I

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Speaker 1: don't know why they call it a Mustang, but we're

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Speaker 1: not going to get into that fight right now.

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Speaker 2: It's cool.

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Speaker 1: It ain't nothing compared to the Lightning, to the feeld

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Speaker 1: of that truck.

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Speaker 2: Now, the actual Mustang, the real must.

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Speaker 1: Oh that thing all day that thing in inconvertible all

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Speaker 1: day long. But it is true. It's it is more comfortable.

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Speaker 1: You feel better in it, at least I do for sure.

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Speaker 1: The only time I feel better. And I find myself

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Speaker 1: looking like some of those seventy one oldsmobiles like the

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Speaker 1: coming more more modern like me and a group of

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Speaker 1: guys keep looking for a DTS Cadillac like twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: eleven when they last made them, because first of all,

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Speaker 1: smoke cigars in it. That's your traveling humid or. And

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Speaker 1: the thing is a freaking cloud man. General Motors did

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Speaker 1: it beautifully on that thing. You're just riding along. You

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Speaker 1: forget that it's actually a car. You're just floating. Life

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Speaker 1: is grand thing. Those things are to me the stuff,

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Speaker 1: but it's still it's big.

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Speaker 2: It's big car or big suv, especially this time of year,

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Speaker 2: right when you are driving around and at any point

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Speaker 2: you go down the road, all of a sudden, six

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Speaker 2: inches of snow just falls out of the sky, out

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Speaker 2: of nowhere, not expecting it, and then it just feels

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Speaker 2: safer and you feel much more comfortable in a bigger vehicle.

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Speaker 1: The problem Europe has is that they don't have the

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Speaker 1: streets for this. If you've ever been to any European city,

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Speaker 1: they don't have streets that can handle big stuff. Their

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Speaker 1: highway system maybe, but they're streets, absolutely not. And they

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Speaker 1: have a very different view of climate than we do.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you should burn tires in the middle

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Speaker 1: of the road everybody. I think you should be aware

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Speaker 1: of the environment, and I would argue that one should

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Speaker 1: be happy with and be respectful of people are conservationists

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Speaker 1: actual science and methodologies that create better outcomes that aren't

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Speaker 1: impactful on how humans exist. That's different than an environmentalist

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Speaker 1: who is radical to the point of culture like that

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Speaker 1: wants to fundamentally change how the human being actually exists

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Speaker 1: and survives and remove the things that have allowed for

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Speaker 1: human flourishing, like, for example, the automobile, like for example,

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Speaker 1: air conditioning. If you didn't have air conditioning, places like Houston,

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Speaker 1: in places like Tampa Bay would not exist. You couldn't

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Speaker 1: be there, it wouldn't work to the extent that it does.

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Speaker 1: And these technologies have allowed for opportunity, and certainly the car,

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Speaker 1: which is the ultimate in mobility, change the way human

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Speaker 1: beings live for forever. The environmentalist doesn't want that. The

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Speaker 1: conservationist might be in a discussion of how you go

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Speaker 1: about either better fueling or something else, but not to

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Speaker 1: the point of saying you shouldn't be allowed to do

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Speaker 1: such a thing. That's always been my differentiation. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: you're seeing.

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Speaker 2: They may see it differently, it's how I say. And

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Speaker 2: you're seeing governments around Europe pushing back against these vehicles

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Speaker 2: getting bigger and bigger. They just passed in Paris and

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Speaker 2: ordinance where it's going to cost more to park heavy vehicles,

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Speaker 2: and the mayor of Paris said, look, the larger the

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Speaker 2: vehicle is, the more it pollutes, and so they're going

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Speaker 2: to go after it, much like because of what you

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Speaker 2: said about environmental concerns in Europe and.

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Speaker 1: So Europe it was Sweden that started this. I believe

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Speaker 1: it was Sweden. Something called Vision zero, which check your city.

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Speaker 1: It's there now in the United States, it's right here

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Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. Vision zero is predicated on the idea that

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Speaker 1: if we work hard, we can eliminate all car accidents.

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Speaker 1: So the vision is zero auto accidents and fatalities zero.

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Speaker 2: Do you know how that's done, Fingers boy, I've never

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Speaker 2: discussed this with you. How do you get to zero

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Speaker 2: car accidents by everyone using public transportation or staying home?

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Speaker 1: Right? Vision zero is not something that's about creating a better,

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Speaker 1: safer society. It's about ending auto transport and preventing people

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Speaker 1: but it's undoubtedly true. So this idea of taxing larger cars,

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Speaker 1: the time, all the time. But it's what Americans want.

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Speaker 1: It's what people want. They do want the safety in

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Speaker 1: Christmas is not too far after that, then the New

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Speaker 1: Year's I think I think we're hitting our December in

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Speaker 1: a beautiful, beautiful way with a little bit of Maker's

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Speaker 1: Eat drink, smoke, but not just any maker's mark.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no. What do

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Speaker 2: they call this?

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Speaker 1: They call this special, fingers malay, they call this special proof.

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Speaker 1: This is maker's mark one oh one? Coming in at

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Speaker 1: Do I have it right? Do I have it right?

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Speaker 1: Did I give it all away? One hundred and one proof?

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00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 1: Look at that? Fingers will applauding for anything that is

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00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 1: over one hundred proof right there. Fifty point five percent

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00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: fifty point five percent alcohol by volume. So this is

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Speaker 1: the special proof. Now, maker's mark, I think is a standard.

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Speaker 1: I think maker's mark is a standard in every liquor cabinet.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about a basic, easy understandable bourbon right here.

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Speaker 2: That does not mean you don't have it.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, it's not cool enough, it's not hip enough,

724
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Speaker 1: it doesn't have enough of this. Stop being silly and

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Speaker 1: get into some of these basics. Remember we've been doing

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Speaker 1: this show now for six years. Fingers boy, I had

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Speaker 1: I did not bring this up with you. I have

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Speaker 1: a whole no que cards. If you're talking about a

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Speaker 1: basic bourbon over the six years we've done that.

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Speaker 2: You must have in your liquor cabinet a basic bourbon.

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Speaker 1: No frills anything else?

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Speaker 2: What is that bourbon? Well, it's either Old Granddad one fourteen.

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Speaker 1: It's Old Granddad one fourteen. That's exactly where I was.

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Speaker 1: What was the other one? I would put Maker's Mark

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Speaker 1: in that category. There are so many good bourbons at

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Speaker 1: these lower price points. One of the bourbons we did

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Speaker 1: a few years back that still people talk to me about,

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Speaker 1: Johnny Drum. Johnny Drum was to p this. It's terrific.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna love it. Maker's Mark is one of those.

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Speaker 1: It's it's fine, it's good in the cabinet for sure.

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Speaker 1: This coming in one hundred and one proof we got

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Speaker 1: the poor, worst, worst lines right here. Go ahead.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned the holidays I did. There's something about the

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Speaker 2: red wax on top of the Maker's Mark bottle that

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Speaker 2: just screams to me, Christmas. Is it that the red wax?

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Speaker 2: That's how I topped my tree? Oh you dep it

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00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 2: in red wax again, bourbon? You you are a great Christmas.

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Speaker 2: So this is the Maker's Mark one on one.

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Speaker 1: First of all, that color is so near the classic there, right,

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a little darker, it's a little more

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Speaker 1: in that orange, not so much in the reds there, beautiful,

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Speaker 1: beautiful look.

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00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 2: Not much viscosity on this, not really sticking to the glass.

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Speaker 1: There.

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Speaker 2: It is that is just that is just.

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Speaker 1: Pleasant for all the things where we're picking out these

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00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:03,959
Speaker 1: notes and picking out these flavors. And don't get me wrong,

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Speaker 1: I love it. I love the artistic expression of bourbon.

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00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 1: It's why I love this so much. It isn't the drinking.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a bourbon drk I'm not a bourbon drinker.

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Speaker 2: I'm a siper.

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Speaker 1: I've always has been, same things with rye and everything else.

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Speaker 1: It's the art that moves me every single time. What

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Speaker 1: it is this industry does. I am in awe of

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Speaker 1: these people and very.

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Speaker 2: Often their palettes. But that nose fingers, yeah, yeah, I

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00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 2: mean you get the caramel, you get some oak. I've

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00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 2: seen other people talk about there's a nice little bit

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Speaker 2: of fruit on there.

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Speaker 1: There is.

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Speaker 2: I can see that. One hundred and one proof to me, Tony,

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Speaker 2: no ethanol alcohol at all on the nose.

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Speaker 1: If you know, I have my nose a little different

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Speaker 1: than yours. If I go in, if I go in deep,

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Speaker 1: I can catch it right, really catch that ethanol for sure.

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00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: But that kind of tinge of citrus, that little bit

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00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: of sugary undertone. That that basic caramel there. It's just

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Speaker 1: a nut. Nice nice, nice expression for sure. On the

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Speaker 1: maker's mark one on one what they call the special proof.

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Speaker 1: But Fingers Maloy, enough of the sniffany sniffs.

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Speaker 2: You ready for this, Tony, I haven't ready for this

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Speaker 2: all day.

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Speaker 1: He is doing what is known as the Kentucky chew

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Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, taking a sip, moving it around the palate,

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Speaker 1: really trying to get a feel for the bourbon. I'm

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00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: a believer in the two SIPs methodology, the first sip

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00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 1: to set the taste buds, the second sip to really

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Speaker 1: get an idea of where those flavors are. And Fingers

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Speaker 1: Horatio Maloy.

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Speaker 2: It's nice. There's nothing wrong with nice.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: It's great for the holidays. It's got a little bit

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Speaker 2: of spice to it. That caramel is there, there's oak.

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Speaker 2: You know, you could talk me into fruit, but it's

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Speaker 2: it's I don't know what you you said, citrus. I'll

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Speaker 2: buy that on the nose, not so much on the palate.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: It's it's hard to describe what that is, but it's good.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And it's it's it's just you would never guess that's

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Speaker 2: one hundred and one proof.

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Speaker 1: I'm going in. I'm going down here. It is.

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Speaker 2: He's a Maker's Mark, special Proof one on one. He's

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Speaker 2: going in ladies and gentlemen, and he's doing what we

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Speaker 2: like to call the saganaw swish, the Memphis munch, the

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Speaker 2: chat mule. It was actually a little hotter that I

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Speaker 2: thought it would be. Yeah, oh yeah, it is in

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Speaker 2: a bad way, in a surprising way.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Oh that is fruity, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: But what would you say that is? It's not like

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Speaker 2: a juicy fruit.

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00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: Melon.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what that.

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Speaker 1: This is gonna sound so stupid. There is a little

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Speaker 1: bit of like a tangerine candle up thing happening.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'll buy that. That's where I'm at. Hold, I'm

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Speaker 2: going back in because I was struggling to I was like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: there's a fruit there, but it's not it's not orchard,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's yeah.

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Speaker 1: No, it's it is a citrusy kind of thing happening.

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Speaker 1: The caramel is not really I wish it was a

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Speaker 1: little bit more there. There's a cinnamon heat that's really

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Speaker 1: on the tongue. There's nothing. Hold on wait, wait a

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Speaker 1: little to the left, and no, there's no heat whatsoever

825
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,479
Speaker 1: that it doesn't really exist. But yeah, that's a lot

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Speaker 1: of that's a lot of melon on the tongue. That's

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Speaker 1: exactly what it is. And a finish that's.

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Speaker 2: What is that?

829
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Speaker 1: What is the finish there? That's a good question.

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Speaker 2: You know how sometimes we'll drink something and the finish

831
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Speaker 2: really hits you. This isn't that.

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Speaker 1: It does have a little bit of like a wine finish.

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Speaker 1: It's subdued, like like the tannin kind of feel on

834
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Speaker 1: wine and wine is not my expertise at all. My

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Speaker 1: pallet's much better for bourbon and far superior when it

836
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Speaker 1: comes to cigars. Oh that's pleasant, that's just nice. You

837
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Speaker 1: forget sometimes.

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Speaker 2: You forget it's like, you know what, that'll work.

839
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Speaker 1: You don't have to think, you don't have to overdo.

840
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Speaker 1: But definitely I'm me, I like more open, I like

841
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 1: that caramel. But this is a nice presentation for sure.

842
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: Actually the finish gets now a touch dry.

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00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 2: Now, that's interesting too. They may not have the one

844
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Speaker 2: hundred and one proof, but you know, when you go

845
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Speaker 2: to a restaurant and you want maybe an after dinner

846
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Speaker 2: bourbon there's a good possibility they'll have Makers Mark. Oh yeah,

847
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 2: a really good possibility.

848
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Speaker 1: Fingers molloy Mago's Mark Special Proof one on one. Is

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Speaker 1: this in your liquor cabinet? I don't remember you pick

850
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: this up, but I've got an MSRP on this at

851
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Speaker 1: about forty one forty two dollars.

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Speaker 2: I think I spent thirty five of on it, thirty

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00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 2: five all day. There's no question. It just goes in

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Speaker 2: the liquor cabinet and easy.

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Speaker 1: And you want to use it for an old fashioned

856
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: which would be kind of interesting because it's melon, and

857
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 1: then you're adding the you know, ther there. It would

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00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 1: be interesting that modeling and you're adding some of the

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00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:10,479
Speaker 1: citrus fruit, but the the the thirty five dollars. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's just a it's just a guaranteed, no question, gonna work.

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Speaker 2: Glad you have it.

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00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: Yes, people want to get all special and think that

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00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: they gotta find the most esoteric and odd thing. No

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00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: classics work. Maker's Mark works, It really really does. This

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Speaker 1: is in your liquor cabinet, absolutely, and it is, by

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Speaker 1: the way, in the liquor cabinet. We are now in

867
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Speaker 1: the place where we can't trust anything anymore. And I

868
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: gotta tell you it's annoying. And we've discussed this before,

869
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 1: but I'll bring it up again. Have you ever seen

870
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 1: this many recalls in your entire life? Fingers Maloy, I

871
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: don't recall what he did. Look at him. We didn't

872
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: even rehearse that or nothing. And it shows Ze Drink Smoke.

873
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: That was funny on Tony Katz. That's Fringers. Will I

874
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,399
Speaker 1: find it all at Eat Drinks smokeshow dot com. Our

875
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: books Let's Go Bourbon, Let's Go Barbecue, Let's Go Bbq.

876
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 2: They're available at Amazon dot com.

877
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,879
Speaker 1: Great Christmas gifts, Great Honukah gifts, Get them now.

878
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 2: Let's Go Bourbon and Let's Go Barbecue. Totally safe. By

879
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 2: the way, no possibility of those two books being recalled.

880
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 2: Absolutely not.

881
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: One point five million bags of shredded cheese sold at Ald,

882
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 1: Walmart and Target have been recalled.

883
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 2: There was my weekend.

884
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 1: First of all, I want to say for the record,

885
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 1: that is a tremendous amount of cheese. So the USDA

886
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: issuing this urgent update about a mass recall. The Great

887
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: Lakes Cheese Company of Hirom, Ohio issued a voluntary recall

888
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: back on October third over possible contamination of metal fragments.

889
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 2: What this happens a lot.

890
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 1: December first comes and the FDA reclassifies as the recall

891
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: risk to Class one, so it may cause temporary or

892
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 1: medically reversible adverse health consequences. Oh, that's just not the

893
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: kind of word to you. Anytime you hear health consequences,

894
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,399
Speaker 1: you know you don't want this. Five different varieties sold

895
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: under dozens of brand names, Target, Walmart, Aldi US and

896
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 1: Puerto Rico. And we got to post this over at

897
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: e drinksmokeshow dot com, Borden Brookshire, Cachet Valley, Chestnut Hill.

898
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: It's all the same. Cheese, Coburn Farms, Food, Lion, Food Club,

899
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: Good and Gathered. I think that's the Target brand right there,

900
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: Great Lakes Cheese, Happy Farms, AGB, which is a supermarket.

901
00:48:56,440 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: It goes on and on, Lucerne is there Public Shredded

902
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: low Moisture part skim Matzarell Shooks which is a Midwest supermarket, sprouts,

903
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,280
Speaker 1: Stater Brothers. I haven't heard Stater Brothers in a while,

904
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: and that's just one of them. There seems to be

905
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: a recall. Now.

906
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 2: Sometimes the recall is stupid.

907
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 1: It's like when Costco has to recall butter because for

908
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: some reason the label doesn't say contains milk, and you realize, oh,

909
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: civilization is over.

910
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 2: It's done.

911
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 1: Is it already? Is it already done? I'm looking at

912
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 1: my fletaman von Reeste watch and my fletaman von Ree's time,

913
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: and that time says society's done. Right here Von reestri

914
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: E s t e von Reese dot com. Use my

915
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 1: last name, Kats and get your discount. No milk in there, no,

916
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: no nothing but good old fashioned time piece. It's gonna

917
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: last throughout the generations. That was such a shameless plug.

918
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,760
Speaker 1: I feel good about it, von rees dot com.

919
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 2: But it's.

920
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: It's it's everywhere. And so the question is are we

921
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: better at detecting these things or are we worse the

922
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: manufacturing of these things?

923
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 2: Both? As you know, Tony, I like to say it

924
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:13,280
Speaker 2: all the time. Live leftlove that hope floats and everyone

925
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 2: is terrible at their job.

926
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 1: But who's responsible for something like this? This isn't the

927
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: machinery and just using it too long and eventually things

928
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 1: grind off into the provolone.

929
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 2: There has to be some sort of at the end

930
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 2: of the line, some sort of quality control like a

931
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 2: metal detector. I guess it's come to that.

932
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: You run it under a magnet and if the cheese

933
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 1: floats up, then you know we got metal in this

934
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: one right here.

935
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 2: This is it's disheartening because, like you said, it feels

936
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 2: like we are getting these notices of food recalls. Every

937
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 2: week there's a new one, and they aren't small. It

938
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:01,760
Speaker 2: seems like they're always huge recalls, and the question needs

939
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 2: to be asked, Like you said, is it that we're

940
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 2: getting better at this? Is it that information is getting

941
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 2: out there and people are paying more attention to this

942
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 2: and then they're confronted because it's on these announcements are

943
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 2: made and the next thing you know, it's on social

944
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 2: media all over the place, where before you just have

945
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 2: to read it in a newspaper or you're hear it

946
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 2: on the radio on TV. Or is it the fact

947
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 2: that we're having more of these because you know, every

948
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,879
Speaker 2: company is trying to cut costs, trying to figure out

949
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 2: ways to not spend as much money making the product

950
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 2: because things are getting more expensive that maybe some quality control,

951
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 2: some people are getting cut out of that department, and

952
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,919
Speaker 2: we're seeing more and more of these recallss. We could

953
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 2: sit here and speculate till the cows come home and

954
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 2: make cheese. Having said that, though this is depressing, you

955
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 2: can't even trust cheese anymore, Tony cheese. There was a

956
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 2: milk recall in the Midwest last week.

957
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 1: I believe it was. It is there's there's this there's

958
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: a concern that I have about what it is that

959
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 1: we're seeing. You know, there's a it's a story about Boeing, right,

960
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:16,839
Speaker 1: and how they're supposed to be this certain material they use,

961
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 1: this liquid they use when they're seating the doors on

962
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 1: an airplane, and they didn't have that that special liquid,

963
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 1: so they used dog dish soup.

964
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 2: That's no, no, no, it's not what you do.

965
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: And then of course things like doors falling off midflight,

966
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: et cetera. So you can argue that everyone's terrible at

967
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: their job. But I think the greater, the greater question

968
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: is what made them terrible. Things peaked and then fell,

969
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 1: and I think that's the way people feel that it fell,

970
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 1: that the that the idea of of value and the

971
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 1: idea of standards has fallen.

972
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 2: Now that isn't true all over the place. There's still

973
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 2: true end of growth.

974
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: For example, in the United States, and there's there's creation,

975
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: and it happens in medical and it happens, for example, what.

976
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 2: The consane investment in AI.

977
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 1: No matter where you are with artificial intelligence, but there's

978
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: this real feeling that it's it's like quickserve outside of

979
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: Chick fil A.

980
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 2: Do you ever feel like you're getting service?

981
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 1: And when you do, aren't you amazed? Aren't you just

982
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 1: so shocked?

983
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 2: Well, thank you, my gosh, you didn't spit my drink.

984
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: You actually looked me in the eye. You knew how

985
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:34,359
Speaker 1: to make change. It's a maybe America is saved right here,

986
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:40,320
Speaker 1: but it is this feeling of the best moment peaked.

987
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 2: And we talk.

988
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 1: Often about generations and where For example, we spoke about

989
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:50,320
Speaker 1: housing the other day and the lack of affordable housing,

990
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: and I made the argument that affordable housing if you

991
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: if you are a first time home buyer and you've

992
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 1: decided you need thirty five hundred square feet and granite countertops,

993
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 1: you're the problem.

994
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 2: And you said, and I've been thinking about it, that the.

995
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 1: Problem is that the home builder is not incentivized to

996
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:08,800
Speaker 1: build the one hundred and eighty two, two hundred and

997
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 1: seventeen thousand dollars house. They're incentivized to build the five six,

998
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: seven hundred thousand dollars house. There are no new homes

999
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: to buy, and then there's a whole other conversation, but

1000
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 1: culturally about that. But it's it's to the idea of

1001
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 1: the things that the natural progression of things isn't progressing.

1002
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 2: Now, maybe that's a growing pain of a society. Maybe

1003
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 2: that's what it is.

1004
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: But certainly the growing pain that we're in stinks because

1005
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:42,280
Speaker 1: the decline part just food safety.

1006
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 2: The decline part is frightening and disappointing. I would love

1007
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 2: to know, you know how the metal got into the cheese?

1008
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 2: Was it the shredding process? Have something before that? Do

1009
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 2: you buy shredded cheese or do you always buy the

1010
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 2: block and shread it yourself?

1011
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 1: No, I buy shredded cheese, right, It depends on what

1012
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:57,959
Speaker 1: it's for sure.

1013
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 2: Isn't there some kind of like anti caking compound that

1014
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 2: they put in the shredded cheese that's not supposed to

1015
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 2: be good for you? Isn't it that what's going on?

1016
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: I swear to you right now, fingers, so help me God,

1017
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 1: if you ruin shredded cheese for me, this will be

1018
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 1: your last show. What do I know?

1019
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 2: Just a cave man.

1020
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:18,320
Speaker 1: Take food advice from.

1021
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 4: You, eat, drink Smoking is your cigar bourbon foody extravaganza.

1022
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz. That is Fingers molloy. We are smoking

1023
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: the battle Born. This is from Ernesto Perez Carreo or

1024
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: ep Coreo. This is their ode to the to the military.

1025
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: Was done in conjunction with one of their employees who

1026
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 1: spent twenty years in the US military. Six by fifty

1027
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 1: six cigar, Connecticut, Broad Relief, that double binder with the

1028
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 1: Mexican son Andreas. Nice stick, easy easy smoke. Not the

1029
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 1: prettiest cigar, but a nice easy smoke. But they said,

1030
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 1: everyone says, oh, it's a full body cigar. No it

1031
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 1: is not. That is a medium with a little bit

1032
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 1: of a kick, and that's fine. It is what it is.

1033
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 2: It doesn't play in too many notes. It smokes very well,

1034
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 2: it smokes very nice.

1035
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 1: I'm not down for it for twenty three bucks, but

1036
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 1: I will say this your job. I mean, we've been

1037
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: taking our time with the show today. You are just

1038
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 1: about done. Yeah, it's been a good cigar.

1039
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 2: Man, it has. It's been really solid. Uh you know

1040
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 2: that that it's tobacco. That tobacco forward, very rich tobacco.

1041
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 2: It is not as spicy as I thought it was

1042
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 2: going to be. Getting a little bit of chocolate, some

1043
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 2: wood throughout the smoke. It has been, you know, very

1044
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:50,320
Speaker 2: low maintenance. Really haven't had to touch it up. At first.

1045
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:54,439
Speaker 2: The draw was a little tight, but that went away

1046
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 2: very quickly, very very happy with it. Okay, the price,

1047
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 2: we've already touched on it twenty three dollars, so it's

1048
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 2: a little higher than I would like for this. But

1049
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 2: when you factor in that, you know some of it

1050
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 2: is going to a good cause, then it's like, okay.

1051
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 1: I believe it was called Fisherhouse Foundation. And both fingers

1052
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 1: and I felt that the cigar was dry when we

1053
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 1: touched it. Was something wrong with my humid or what

1054
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: have you. The instinct might be, well, I gotta I

1055
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: gotta kind of break it up a little bit and

1056
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 1: loosen it up a little bit. You don't know what

1057
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: you need to do until you're smoking it. Don't prejudge it.

1058
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 1: Light it puff see how it goes. It has been

1059
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 1: a very good draw. It has been easy to work

1060
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 1: with this ep Creo the battle Born also knows the

1061
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 1: battle Born warriors. They refer to this size as the

1062
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: warrior size, the battle born warriors.

1063
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 2: Check that out for yourself.

1064
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 1: And we're drinking the Maker's Mark Special Proof one on one,

1065
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 1: one hundred and one proof.

1066
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 2: And I've got a cube right here. It's been melting.

1067
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 1: We're gonna move mine to it.

1068
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 2: A little bit of melon. Uh there was on the

1069
00:57:58,120 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 2: on the on the on the pallet.

1070
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 1: Oh right, I just poured it into the one thing.

1071
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: Let's put the cube in that. I had a little

1072
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: thing for my cube right there. Nice, nice easy bourbon,

1073
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 1: not too much caramel, not too much oak, but a

1074
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 1: basic thirty five forty bucks. Before the bottle, you added

1075
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 1: a little bit of water, tores, No, you didn't know.

1076
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: I forgot to get your water. That's okay, that's all right.

1077
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna bring it to a cube. There he goes.

1078
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 2: He's going in ladies and gentlemen, he is doing these.

1079
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 2: I gonna swish on the cue now. I said, there

1080
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 2: was a little bit more heat on this than I thought.

1081
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 2: The heat is down, and.

1082
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 1: The cube gave it a little bit of syrupy. So

1083
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 1: water brings down the proof. It's the only thing that

1084
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 1: can bring down the proof. And then water will change

1085
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: the complexion. Some flavors more pronounced, some flavors will be

1086
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 1: more diminished. It added a little bit of syrupiness to this.

1087
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 1: That's pretty groovy. That's pretty groovy. It also added a

1088
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 1: little you get a little more let's say there's a

1089
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 1: little more oak going on. That's I can work with that, okay.

1090
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 1: And as I as I stated, you know, it's just

1091
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 1: sometimes you need a basic you should not shy away from.

1092
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 1: Oh it's maker's mark. Oh I would.

1093
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 2: That's for amateurs, that's for beginner.

1094
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 1: Screw that.

1095
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 2: It's very very good juice. So I'm gonna go in again.

1096
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:21,439
Speaker 2: You're going in again, Joe, my kay.

1097
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 1: He just finished it. He just finished it. You know.

1098
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 2: When you take the whole shot like that. Yeah, uh,

1099
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 2: you notice there's a lot more oak and not much else.

1100
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 3: Wellhen you just throw it back, man, I have not

1101
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 3: seen you do that in a while. Has it been

1102
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 3: a day, It's been a year, It's been a year.

1103
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:49,439
Speaker 3: I'm really looking forward to New Year's Eve, New Year's Day,

1104
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 3: bringing in a new year twenty twenty six with eat, Drink,

1105
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 3: Smoke Nation. I think we're gonna have a lot of

1106
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 3: exciting things coming up in the new year, and it's

1107
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 3: a time to re juvenate, time to make resolutions and

1108
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 3: and not follow through on them. It's it's very exciting.

1109
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 1: Are you just desperately clinging onto something? So there's still hope? Tony?

1110
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 2: I resent that people who know me call me fingers

1111
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 2: glass half full Malloy, that's what they call you. Yes,

1112
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 2: that's what they call you. Yeah, Johnny, good news. What's

1113
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 2: in your glass right now? It's it's it's fully empty.

1114
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 2: Yeah right, Oh wow, Well you just you just dropped

1115
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 2: a three megaton truth bomb there, that's what you did.

1116
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 1: The maker's mark, special proof one on one, definitely in

1117
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 1: the in the liquor cabinet. And this the battle Born

1118
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 1: from ep Koreo. That price is hard for this cigar.

1119
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 1: That price is twenty three dollars is difficult. It does

1120
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 1: go to a good cause. Portion of proceeds go to

1121
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 1: Fisher House Foundation.

1122
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 2: So does that tug at the heart strings? Three dollars

1123
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 2: is a bit high.

1124
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 1: But that double binder Man, I mean this, I could

1125
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 1: see this moving people and working for people to try Sure, sure,

1126
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 1: I appreciate the effort here. They've been doing some really

1127
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 1: really good stuff. The Encore I think is a great smoke.

1128
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 1: Many we were in Vegas last we had the Pledge

1129
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 1: and the Allegiance, two different cigars that they do.

1130
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 2: I liked the Pledge. I was not a fan of

1131
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 2: the Allegiance, if I remember correctly. But the Encore, Oh, Daddy, Like,

1132
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 2: I'm always amazed because people ask me all the time about,

1133
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 2: you know, the show, behind the scenes stuff like I

1134
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 2: always freely admit that I'm a cigar fan. But you

1135
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 2: have a real passion for cigars. The fact that you

1136
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 2: can remember that stuff. It's been almost two years since

1137
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 2: we were at we were at the Four Queens, Yes,

1138
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 2: where you had that cigar, Yes, you remember that. I

1139
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 2: remember that.

1140
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 1: I was. I was sufficiently disappointed in the Allegiance, and

1141
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know why, because I had the

1142
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 1: one that's called the Pledge. I'm like, this was very

1143
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 1: very good, and then I had the Encore. I actually

1144
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 1: have some more excellent, excellent, excellent smoke.

1145
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 2: And so it's possible that I just it was me.

1146
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 2: And that's why we always.

1147
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 1: Discuss when you're smoking a cigar, you gotta smoke it again.

1148
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 1: You don't know what, you don't know. A million things

1149
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 1: could be wrong. First, the cigar itself could have a problem.

1150
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 1: These are hand rolled products. Something could be off. It

1151
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 1: could be you. What did you eat, what did.

1152
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 2: You drink, the weather, the mood, how tired are you?

1153
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 2: What else is.

1154
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 1: Going on with you? Were you coming down with the cold?

1155
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 1: Are you getting off of colder? Were you not even

1156
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 1: aware something was happening where you had? Did you have

1157
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 1: an imbalance? Everything is possible. So that's why you got

1158
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 1: to go back and you got to do it again.

1159
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 1: You can't have one to be like, I'm never touching

1160
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 1: that again. This is not tequila when you were in college.

1161
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 1: This is the the art is worth giving it your time.

1162
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 1: It really truly is. So. Yes, I do remember, but

1163
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 1: you remember things like you have.

1164
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 2: I remember the steak at the forecoint Ah.

1165
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 1: Yes you go sellar, Yeah you go sellar. Now we

1166
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 1: have had good steaks. We've had steaks in Des Moines together,

1167
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 1: which I think is I mean no offense to the

1168
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 1: Peter Lugers crowd or the late great Sami Romanian Steakhouse

1169
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 1: in New York, which was one of the most insane

1170
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 1: places I've ever eaten. Ever. Adawan chop House des Moines,

1171
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 1: Iowa might be the best steakhouse in America. And it's

1172
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 1: been a lot of years, but Fingers and I did

1173
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 1: the Iowa Caucuses there. We went in winter. We drove

1174
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 1: out from Indianapolis and we stayed in Des Moines and

1175
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 1: went and followed these politicos and we're reporting back on

1176
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 1: it and went to eat at Ada One Chop House

1177
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 1: and it's like the whole staff from Fox is over there,

1178
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 1: and everybody from NBC has ever bro CAUs over there.

1179
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 2: This was twenty This was like a decade ago, twenty sixteen. Yeah,

1180
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 2: so it was just just cuckoo crazy stuff. Yeah, it

1181
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:02,479
Speaker 2: was a decade ago.

1182
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 1: And then and then you sit down to what really

1183
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 1: this It was probably it's probably the best steakhouse I've

1184
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 1: ever been to.

1185
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:16,439
Speaker 2: It's crazy. I had a slab of prime rip had

1186
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 2: to have been eighty four ounces. It was just the

1187
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 2: size of my torso, and I didn't want to order it.

1188
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 2: Tony made me. He said, listen, you gotta do this.

1189
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 2: There's no way I'm going to eat this, not in

1190
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 2: a millionaires. And there's a picture of me looking at

1191
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 2: this huge piece of meat and you could see the

1192
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 2: expression on my face basically, how get myself? He looks

1193
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 2: at a young sally Field. Sally Field. So for those

1194
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 2: of you keeping score at home, we've done Jack Benny

1195
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 2: and a Sally Field reference. Today I did him.

1196
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 5: Bringing up from the Gidget days. I just said sally Field.

1197
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 5: Now Gidget's a good reference. Gidgets world class oh eight

1198
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 5: on one chop house. Where's your favorite steakhouse? We'll go

1199
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 5: pay a visit, which reminds me talk about Memphis.

1200
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 1: Fingers maloy.

1201
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 2: Two words for you road trip where we're going to Memphis.

1202
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:16,920
Speaker 1: Outstanding Drink Smoke. I'm Tony Katz. That is fingers Maloy.

1203
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 1: Find everything at Eat Drink Smoke. That's where you get

1204
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 1: the podcast at Eat Drinks Smoke show dot com. I'm

1205
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 1: on the social media, is on the Twitter ex at

1206
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 1: Tony Katz. And I was discussing something that was happening

1207
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 1: here in our beloved Indiana, something political, and and this

1208
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 1: guy was commenting and I commented back, and I noticed

1209
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 1: he had.

1210
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:39,480
Speaker 2: An interesting link in his in his bio.

1211
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 1: I click the link and it goes to uh this

1212
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 1: company he owns and his name is Barry at A

1213
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 1: at A out of Memphis where you can listen on

1214
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 1: k w A M. And I guess it's it's it's

1215
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 1: this company he has and it's kind of like a

1216
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 1: holding company for all these different things that he does.

1217
01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 1: And what is one of the things he does, King

1218
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 1: Jerry Lawler's Memphis Barbecue Company. We're talking about the wrestler

1219
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 1: Jerry Lawler, King Jerry Lawler's Barbecue.

1220
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 2: Fingers, pack the car.

1221
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 1: I'm excited. We're taking a road trip to Memphis and

1222
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 1: we're gonna have ourselves some serious ribs. Now, don't tell

1223
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 1: my Rabbi because it ain't ain't nothing beef. There are

1224
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 1: gonna be no beef ribs in Memphis. But we haven't

1225
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 1: been yet, we haven't done that. This is going to happen. Barry,

1226
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 1: if you're listening, someone tell Barry over there at Lawler's

1227
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 1: rib Shack Imporium. That's not the name of it. It's

1228
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 1: King Jerry Lawler's Memphis Barbecue Company.

1229
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 2: And and we're coming. Would you say that they put

1230
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 2: the barbecue competition in Memphis in a sleeperhold? Interesting? Interesting?

1231
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 1: I think that if you have a slab of King

1232
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 1: Jerry Lawler's Memphis Ribs, you can take the turnbuckle, no problem.

1233
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 2: I'm very I'm a big Jerry Lawler fan, are you

1234
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 2: really all back of the old Memphis days when he

1235
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 2: teamed up with Andy Kaufman and they did that whole

1236
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 2: run where Andy Kaufman was wrestling.

1237
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 1: Sure, and then and then the David Letterman most dangerous

1238
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 1: moment in television is Jerry Lawler slapping Andy Kaufman allegedly

1239
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 1: on that show.

1240
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 2: And neither one of them would both. Andy Kaufin said

1241
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 2: Jerry Lawler dead. Oh gosh, no, no, he's the last

1242
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 2: all alive good man good Man.

1243
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:40,920
Speaker 1: So we're road tripping to Memphis, right That's where we're

1244
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 1: gonna get the pork. When it comes to beef, we

1245
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 1: go to Defiance Beef Defiancebeef dot Com right here out

1246
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 1: of Indiana from the farm directly to you.

1247
01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 2: Twenty one day aged the ribbis, the strips.

1248
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:57,320
Speaker 1: I pulled out some strips to make this week, the tenderloins,

1249
01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 1: all of it. You ordered, the quarter cow, the have cow,

1250
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:02,480
Speaker 1: the whole cow. It comes to you cut to your specifications.

1251
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 1: It's so good, it is so incredibly good. The flavor

1252
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 1: is just there, that beef flavor. Those things you can't

1253
01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 1: get from the store. The cut you can't get from

1254
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 1: the store, the freshness, can't get from the store. They

1255
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 1: age at twenty one days. Then the phone call comes, Okay,

1256
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:18,519
Speaker 1: how do you want to cut? Do you want this?

1257
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 1: Do you want that? Flank? Stakes, all this, and then

1258
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 1: it comes to you individually frozen. It's done perfectly in

1259
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 1: dry ice. Boom, right into the chest freezer and the

1260
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 1: rest is history. If you go right now to Defiance

1261
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 1: Beef dot com and use promo code eat drink smoke,

1262
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 1: you get one hundred and fifty dollars off your order.

1263
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 1: Go to Defiance Beef d e f I a n

1264
01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 1: CE defines beef dot com.

1265
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 2: Use promo code eat drink smoke.

1266
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 1: Get one hundred and fifty dollars off your order from

1267
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 1: Indiana to you Defiance Beef dot Com. That's another road

1268
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 1: trip we have to make. Oh gosh, yes, all right

1269
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 1: now it's cold. Oh it'll be warmer in Memphis. That's true.

1270
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:58,559
Speaker 2: We're going. I'm all in. I've never been to Memphis.

1271
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:00,800
Speaker 2: I've never been to Memphis. Are we gonna go to

1272
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 2: Graceland too?

1273
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:02,599
Speaker 1: Well, we're there.

1274
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 2: The ribs there none as good.

1275
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 1: You don't know that? Well? What can be what can

1276
01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 1: be better than King? Jerry Lawler Barry were coming you

1277
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 1: thought I was kidding. I don't. I don't care about much.

1278
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 1: Uh you had a story fingers lor.

1279
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 2: What. I'm always amazed at people's behavior, especially completely oblivious

1280
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 2: to the fact that there may be a camera on them.

1281
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 2: There's always a camera on you everywhere, especially when you're

1282
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 2: on someone's front porch.

1283
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 1: And if it's not a camera made by man, it's

1284
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 1: the camera of the lord.

1285
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 2: Oh wow, take that tear tears sleeping. Take that tear sleeping,

1286
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:52,759
Speaker 2: He says.

1287
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 1: It's a great turn of phrase. I've never said that before.

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Speaker 2: It look great on a bumper sticker. The New York

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Speaker 2: Post has the story Tony, a DoorDash driver dropped a

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Speaker 2: chicken wing on the concrete, put it back in the box,

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Speaker 2: licks his fingers engross caught on camera scene stop. I

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Speaker 2: have a question, how did the chicken wing drop? So

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Speaker 2: he was pulling it out of you know, they've got

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Speaker 2: that door dash sleeve, that little canvas thing with a

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Speaker 2: little pouch that they make sure that your food stays warm.

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Speaker 2: And so he was pulling all of the food out

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Speaker 2: and a boneless wing fell out of the box of

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Speaker 2: boneless wings. He decided, a quick thinker to pick the

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Speaker 2: chicken wing up, put it back in the box with

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Speaker 2: the untainted wings, licked his fingers and then tried to

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Speaker 2: stamp the sauce stain, just kind of rubbed it into

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Speaker 2: the concrete and then walked away. Well unfortunately for this

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Speaker 2: DoorDash driver in Florida, he was caught doing this on

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Speaker 2: a ring camera and now it has made national news.

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Speaker 2: The customer was interviewed and says that she would like

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Speaker 2: to see more training, and I don't know what you

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Speaker 2: could possibly do to basically say don't do that. See, see,

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Speaker 2: this is the problem.

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Speaker 1: More training. This is this is not This is not

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Speaker 1: more training. What this means is that we have to

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Speaker 1: bring back the death penalty. You know, I used to

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Speaker 1: be a guy absolutely in favor of capital punishment, and actually,

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Speaker 1: over time and through consideration, I have turned on that

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Speaker 1: and I'm no longer in just about every case, I

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Speaker 1: am no longer in favor of capital punishment.

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Speaker 2: Um, this term me right around jail, jail, hard labor.

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Speaker 1: We make a North Korean prison camp look like summer camp.

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Speaker 1: There isn't there isn't enough because in every part of

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Speaker 1: this there is such a failure of decency, rationality, and

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Speaker 1: humanity that we have to call a time out and

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Speaker 1: set everybody straight.

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Speaker 2: I just don't know what goes through a person's mind

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Speaker 2: that forget that you could possibly be on camera, just

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Speaker 2: the idea that even if you're not on camera, you

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Speaker 2: don't behave this way. You just don't behave this way.

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Speaker 2: You don't do this. You knock on the door and

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Speaker 2: you apologize. You say, listen, I'm sorry. One of your

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Speaker 2: wings dropped out onto the concrete. I picked it up.

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Speaker 2: It was delicious, and then that's the end of it.

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Speaker 2: Or do you have a waste paper basket where I

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Speaker 2: could throw this out? You know what, take a little

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Speaker 2: off the tip. Instead of ten wings, you've got nine wings.

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Speaker 2: I apologize. Instead of trying to cover your tracks because

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Speaker 2: accidents happened, you would much be much more appreciative if

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Speaker 2: a door dash driver said, listen, I screwed up. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: I dropped a wing instead of this wingate is what

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Speaker 2: people are calling it now. This this this total cover up.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you understand death penalty. But he has

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Speaker 1: to go to jail because what he did was try

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Speaker 1: and poison was pick the word another person. Yeah, he

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Speaker 1: doesn't know what's on the ground. He put it back. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: that's the crime.

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Speaker 2: Here's I will throw this out there because, uh, you

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Speaker 2: know why not. I never blamed the victim. Ever, boneless

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Speaker 2: wings does does that person take a little responsibility for

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Speaker 2: if if it were a drumstick, maybe it doesn't fall

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Speaker 2: out of the package. That's all I'm saying. That's not No,

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Speaker 2: that's not what I'm saying. No, you don't know. You tried,

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Speaker 2: and God bless you for they aren't wings, by the way,

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Speaker 2: they're nuggets.

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Speaker 1: That's true. Boneless wings were not wings. That is fact.

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Speaker 1: That is fact. Death penalty, labor camp, certainly jail. Do

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Speaker 1: you prefer the labor camp after the death penalty? Yes?

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Speaker 1: The makers mark special proof one oh one thirty five

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Speaker 1: to forty bucks a bottle. Absolutely in the liquor cabinet. Dude,

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Speaker 1: you don't need special, you don't need fancy, you need good.

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Speaker 1: This will do you do? You just fine? And the

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Speaker 1: epikoreo this battle born a cigar right here, six by

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Speaker 1: fifty six a nice stick. Definitely give it a shot

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Speaker 1: and supportive of the troops. This is e drink smoke