1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: You have some breaking news coming. In moments ago, we 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: are learning into CNN from a US official that Ukraine 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: has agreed to a peace proposal with Russia, saying, quote, by. 4 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 2: The way, I didn't really want to pick CNN, but 5 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 2: it was the one most viral on TikTok on Twitter 6 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 2: on X for this so. 7 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: Fine, saying only quote minor details are outstanding now this 8 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: as Ukraine's President Lensky, though, says that more work needs 9 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: to be done. Adding to the nuance here in a 10 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: post on x, Ukraine's national security secretary writes that the 11 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: delegations had quote reached a common understanding on the core 12 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: terms of the agreement discussed in Geneva overnight a new 13 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: wave of deadly I. 14 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 2: Gotta be honest, I think it's kind of amazing that 15 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,919 Speaker 2: CNN does not want to say that. You feel it 16 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 2: in her voice, like she doesn't want Trump the broker 17 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: piece between Ukraine and Russia because it's Trump. I'm not 18 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: saying she doesn't want peace in that area. I think 19 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: any rational person does. But there's some part of the 20 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 2: back of the brain that as they're saying it and 21 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 2: they're thinking Trump gets credit, that that part makes them mad. 22 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 2: Which is nuts. And I know Tony Katz has done 23 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 2: a great job of breaking this down and he'll probably 24 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 2: do it again coming up in a couple hours on 25 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 2: his show, his National Show. But I do think that 26 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,839 Speaker 2: out of the twenty eight points that are a part 27 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 2: of the Trump created Broker with Ukraine peace Plan, one 28 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 2: of the most significant ones is a guarantee from NATO 29 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: and the United States not that Ukraine will be a 30 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 2: part of NATO, but that any additional attack on Ukraine 31 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 2: would be considered an attack on the Transatlantic Community A 32 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 2: meaning NATO. So essentially they're giving the protection of the 33 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 2: US and NATO in the document without actually giving the 34 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 2: entry into the organization. And I do think that's important, 35 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 2: and I know that that's a moment where a whole 36 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 2: lot of a lot of people are going to say, 37 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 2: I don't want the US involved, And actually the US 38 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 2: itself doesn't give specifics on what it would do if 39 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 2: Ukraine is attacked again by Russia in the future after 40 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 2: surrendering territory, because that's the two pieces that had to 41 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 2: come together. Ukraine is not capable of defending itself against 42 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 2: Russia in a prolonged attack without the help of the 43 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 2: United States have said all this before, I'll say it again. 44 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 2: So if you're standing on the outside of this conflict 45 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 2: and you, as Trump has said, would like to just 46 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 2: see the death stop, what is the best path forward 47 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 2: to anyone else? I've asked that question to the experts, 48 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 2: I've asked that question to a friends of mine, to everybody, 49 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,519 Speaker 2: anybody who cares about this at all, and no one 50 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 2: comes up with a better plan that sounds like it 51 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 2: would be agreed to by both sides. A plan that 52 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 2: gives Ukraine more of what it wants, involves the United 53 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 2: States fighting more directly with Russia at some point, because 54 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 2: Russia is never going to agree to that, and they 55 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 2: hold all the cards in how long they can they 56 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: can go fighting Ukraine in the way they're fighting them. 57 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 2: Russia has a tremendously larger military force, as we knew 58 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 2: going in. And it's incredible that Ukraine defended themselves for 59 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 2: three years the way they did against Putin and all 60 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 2: of the things that happened there. Even if the country 61 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 2: has been a devastated a significant amount, it's still standing 62 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 2: more or less. So I think that's amazing. But you 63 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 2: eventually had to capitulate somehow, to Russia to get them 64 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 2: to stop, and giving them contested areas, contested regions that 65 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 2: Ukraine didn't actually wield significant control over, like they were 66 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 2: part of the country, but these were areas where people 67 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 2: believed there was a proxy war going on for a 68 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 2: long time between Russia and Ukraine, because there was one, 69 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 2: and it was not exactly the nicest areas of Ukraine, 70 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 2: to say it as mildly as possible. So seating those places, 71 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 2: not getting back Crimea, and then getting a guarantee from 72 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 2: NATO in the United States that Russia won't take any 73 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 2: more of your land. I think that is important now. 74 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 2: Granted I hope we don't get there, and who knows, 75 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 2: nothing stops Russia from doing it again other than this threat, 76 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 2: which then would have to actually be acted upon, And 77 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 2: the United States and NATO have not acted in defending 78 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 2: Ukraine so far, and many people think that's the right decision, 79 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 2: myself included, to not put your own boots on the ground. 80 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 2: But you're dangling the carrot that that's what will happen, 81 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 2: and hopefully it turns Russia away at least for now. 82 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 2: But I do think this was the only way to 83 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 2: end this conflict, so Anyone who's heavily critical of it, 84 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 2: I think is disregarding that it could have ended any 85 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 2: other way, or pretending it could have ended any other way, 86 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 2: because I don't think it could. I think this would 87 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 2: just keep going on forever, an endless war in which 88 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 2: Russia would more and more hold the cards. The situation 89 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 2: for Ukraine is only going to get more dire as 90 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 2: time goes, and as the United States and others drag 91 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 2: their feet on continuing to to assist financially a war 92 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 2: that we're not fighting and shouldn't be fighting. And so, 93 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 2: I don't know, it's a big deal, a news story, 94 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 2: it's a big deal. Trump deserves a whole lot of 95 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 2: credit for brokering piece that inevitably had to happen to 96 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 2: the benefit of Ukraine, because I think things get worse 97 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 2: and worse year over year of this fight continuing, and 98 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 2: so giving up something now and as Trump actually said, 99 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 2: giving up maybe something at the beginning, maybe doing some 100 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 2: version of what they're getting now, maybe not even as aggressively, 101 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 2: in order to have no conflict at all, might have 102 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 2: been better, because these areas had long been contested in 103 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 2: those in those between those countries, and you know, what 104 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 2: the one other thing. I'll say one other thing because 105 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 2: I don't mean to rant about this. I have a 106 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 2: bunch of other audio to play. I'm not sure that 107 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 2: I'm the international expert that you need on these kind 108 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 2: of issues. I think Tony does a great job, so 109 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 2: you can listen to him again to dive into this 110 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 2: deeper with a certain level of connection of a guy 111 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 2: who's traveled to Israel and you know, seeing some things 112 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 2: that I've never seen. But I will say that there's 113 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 2: other conflicts that go on in the world. There's other 114 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,799 Speaker 2: countries that fight each other, There's other things that happen, 115 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 2: and the US doesn't dive into each one of those 116 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 2: conflicts because we can't. And so then the discussion becomes 117 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 2: how much do we have to involve ourselves between Ukraine 118 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: and Russia for the better betterment of our country, to 119 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 2: benefit us, to make sure that we protect ourselves from 120 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 2: Russia someday arming US or any of our allies. And 121 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 2: Ukraine is an ally e ish, I guess is the 122 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 2: right way to say it. But I just think that 123 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 2: that's sort of fascinating that when we focus a hyper 124 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 2: focus on these issues, we fail to acknowledge sometimes not 125 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 2: you or me, just everybody in some shape or form, 126 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 2: the amount of things where we're also doing nothing, where 127 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 2: we're letting this aggressor get this benefit from being the 128 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 2: aggressive party and fighting someone else that is not as 129 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 2: powerful as them. To be honest, some of the crazy 130 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 2: stuff going on in parts of Africa right now that 131 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 2: are attacking Christian people is something that we should probably 132 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 2: be more active in, and we're not. You hear horrific 133 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 2: stories of like kids getting kidnapped and stuff which sounds 134 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 2: reminiscent to me of some of the other horrific things 135 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 2: that have happened over the last couple of years, and 136 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 2: the United States won't be putting boots on the ground 137 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 2: anytime soon they're either because we just simply can't be 138 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 2: the world police. All right, One last thing I do 139 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 2: want to play before I take a break. This is 140 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 2: Bill Maher on his show, as he does very often, 141 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 2: thanking a couple of Republicans for popping up and being 142 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 2: a part of it. Mar considers himself a liberal. Mar 143 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 2: definitely does not like woke liberals and some of the 144 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 2: craziness of the left, and he criticizes it, but he's 145 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 2: definitely not a conservative. Which is probably why I like 146 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 2: playing his audio or John Stewart's audio sometimes, because it 147 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 2: shows the somewhat reasonable positions the Democrats or people on 148 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 2: that side can take in some issues. But I thought 149 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 2: this was just pretty funny, and it went viral that 150 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 2: a whole lot of Democrats don't want to do his 151 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 2: show because he's not a softball to them. He might 152 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: be a little tougher, not even all that hard to 153 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 2: be honest, by the way, he by and large will 154 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 2: agree with that side of the aisle if he has 155 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 2: them on his program, so he's not going to challenge 156 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 2: them the way a conservative outlet would. But the fact 157 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 2: that Democrats don't want to go on it is telling 158 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 2: of how little they actually want to have conversation, how 159 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 2: little they actually want to have discourse and debate on 160 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 2: their positions because they know they're insane. But here, I 161 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 2: just want to play this audio very quick. 162 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 3: She is a Republican in Congress as South Carolina member 163 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 3: of the House Armed Services Committee. You recently announced running 164 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 3: for governor in twenty twenty six. Very exciting, Nancy Mace. 165 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 2: All right, well, Nancy Mayce looks good. I'm just gonna 166 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 2: say it, just gonna put it out there. 167 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 3: Go ahead, thank you for being here. I always said 168 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 3: that to my Republican friends. I said, every week, the 169 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 3: Republicans show up, the Democrats do not. They say it 170 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 3: every week. I'm going to say it every week. Stop 171 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 3: asking me why the Clintons had never been on the show. 172 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 3: They were invited AOC all these people they never come, 173 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 3: ask them. 174 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 2: Ask them why they're not showing up on my show 175 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 2: and dealing with any hard questions because they don't want to. 176 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 2: They very much would like to run their campaigns from 177 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 2: as many protective layers as possible, away from the challenges 178 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 2: that their ideas would face if they actually were to 179 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 2: partake in real debate, and they'd get mad at you 180 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 2: and they have to call you a racist or something 181 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,599 Speaker 2: ast if you actually will yell at them about or 182 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 2: even just plainly talk to them about how some of 183 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 2: their ideas are insane.