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Speaker 1: with us again. Later, black politics expert doctor James Taylor

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Speaker 1: Doctor Taylor is also a spotlight Jasmine Crockett's Texas tenatorial

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Speaker 1: will lead a discussion on doctor Cottage Whitson's original intent,

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Speaker 1: also Garvism in the twenty first century, and the Mossia

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Speaker 1: African Leadership Institute. Let me get that correct, the Missia

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Speaker 1: African Leadership Institute. But first to get a star, let's

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Speaker 1: get Kevin to reopen these classroom doors. Grand Rising, Kevin.

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Speaker 2: Grand Rising, indeed coll Nelson man.

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Speaker 1: It's and not hearing Kevin Grand Rising. Kevin, Well, this

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Speaker 1: is interesting. I'm I'm definitely here. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: get started, Kevin. Let's go to bring on a brother,

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Speaker 1: a grand Rising brother, Yes, Grand.

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Speaker 3: Rising brother, Howard you today.

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Speaker 3: This uh February mid February, shortest month of the year,

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Speaker 3: But doctor Cartage Woodson, first of all, let me just

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Speaker 3: And Uh, I'm just named a few people. It's a

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Speaker 3: Doctor Whitson's original intent. And let me let me be clear. Historically,

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Speaker 3: African people period. And doctor Cartagie Whitson made it very

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Speaker 3: Carl, I'm gonna keep it real. You can lead a

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Speaker 3: we want to talk about Mali, not Mally the state

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Speaker 1: Wait her brother stard At ten a half the top down,

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Speaker 1: African Leadership Institute. Chief fo Day, Grand Rising, welcome back

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Speaker 2: The name is actually Mosaiah Academy Leadership Institute Maley.

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Speaker 1: Well, well, thank you for for joining us this morning.

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Speaker 1: Well continue to give us some information about this institute.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I just wanted to, you know, shout out

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Speaker 2: In nineteen fifteen, Cardig Woodson, the Warrior Scholar, He established

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, especially here in Freetown. We love the African died

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Speaker 3: it was published in book form, it was published in

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Speaker 3: the Negro World newspaper of the UN I a ACL government.

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Speaker 3: And just like there's a miseducation of the Negro in

433
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Speaker 3: North America and other places, there's a mis education of

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Speaker 3: the African by colonial British colonial and other colonial masters

435
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Speaker 3: in Africa. So we have to reverse that. In the

436
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Speaker 3: Chief Foe they mentioned African centered education. So the U

437
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Speaker 3: and I a ACL, you know, and we applaud Molly

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Speaker 3: and we support the Black Star Action Network International like

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Speaker 3: like it said, also our family. But we also have

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Speaker 3: other educational African Senate objectives to do a homeschooling on

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Speaker 3: the continent as well as building brick and mortar on

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Speaker 3: the continent, which requires a lot of work. And a

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Speaker 3: lot of people have adopted villages, but when you have

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Speaker 3: a village, you have to have an educational program. And

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Speaker 3: as Chief as saying, we have many many other groups

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Speaker 3: outside of the U and I even know all African

447
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Speaker 3: people are ordinary members that are doing great work. And

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Speaker 3: my job as a first Assistant President General is to

449
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Speaker 3: interface with other brothers and sisters aim the Rastafarrai community

450
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Speaker 3: for an example. A lot of people do not understand

451
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Speaker 3: the importance of Garviism and Rastafarrai being linked. But Chief

452
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Speaker 3: Fode is a perfect example in pre Town. And we

453
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Speaker 3: have the perfect example here in North America, here in Jamaica,

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Speaker 3: here in other places that we are one. So when

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Speaker 3: we start talking about various different people that are carrying

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Speaker 3: out Garviism, we're not just talking about people who are

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Speaker 3: active members upholding the government of the Unia. We're talking

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Speaker 3: about many intitues. We also have groups like ADOSTI, the

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Speaker 3: African Diasporol Ancestral Commemoration Institute that's not just here in

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Speaker 3: the US, but they're in Africa. So we have to

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Speaker 3: do work to re educate regain the African mind. As

462
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Speaker 3: garb has also taught us that the mental slavery is

463
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Speaker 3: worse than physical slavery, because as Cartagie Wison wrote about it,

464
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Speaker 3: he said, hey, that you know African people who don't

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Speaker 3: know who they are, wou would knock out the bus,

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Speaker 3: go out the back of the bus for Urugu. But

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Speaker 3: we changed all of that. We're changing all of that

468
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Speaker 3: We're going back to who we are and our traditional

469
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Speaker 3: greatness is far more powerful than any oppression they can

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Speaker 3: bring in us. They've killed our leaders like Patrica Mumba,

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Speaker 3: like Thomas Sankara, like Malcolm X. But guess what they

472
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Speaker 3: live in the world when and they can't be touched

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Speaker 3: by Urugu because their spiritual power is a collective African

474
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Speaker 3: power created by the most High God, and African people

475
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Speaker 3: will rise to our traditional greatness and reconquer the world.

476
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Speaker 3: But we get so caught up in the problems of

477
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Speaker 3: that Urugu has created that we begin to emulate Urugu

478
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Speaker 3: and act and go against ourselves. So Garvey Woodson and

479
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 3: our ancestors with Noko Rashidi, Tony Martin, so many of

480
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Speaker 3: them are working at Mojo. But me and Chief Fodey

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Speaker 3: are living legacies and carrying out the works of them.

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Speaker 3: And we not the only ones. It's many of us

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Speaker 3: called And I just want to make that clear. Any

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Speaker 3: positive work going on the uplift Africans is what we

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Speaker 3: are doing to rehabilitate our minds of our people to

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Speaker 3: understand the U and I a government was created to

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Speaker 3: put us back on track of our traditional greatness.

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Speaker 4: I hope.

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Speaker 3: I was very clear and that that that that that

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Speaker 3: long run because sometimes we get confused and we try

491
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Speaker 3: to emulate the Urugu to get freedom. It don't happen.

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Speaker 3: You're not gonna get it in the Democratic Party, the

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Speaker 3: Republican Party and a lot of these African countries that

494
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Speaker 3: are following your Rugu that ain't gonna happen. We got

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Speaker 3: we got to go back to the roots of like

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Speaker 3: before they carved up Africa with the Berlin Conference and

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Speaker 3: put the boundaries. Like Chief Foe, they say, some people

498
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Speaker 3: are confused. A lot of stuff that happened in library

499
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Speaker 3: also happened is serially on because we didn't create those borders.

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Speaker 3: You rug who did?

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Speaker 1: All right? At twenty seven away from the top, there

502
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Speaker 1: are just waking up family that was Senga Babe brother

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Speaker 1: Sangard is a garveyit along with another Guavey I joined

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Speaker 1: us from Sarah Leone that'd be Chief Foe day. And

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Speaker 1: at some point Chief Foty got to ask you this

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Speaker 1: because you know, we spoke to our brothers and sisters

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Speaker 1: uh in Ghana last week and you know Ghana opened

508
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Speaker 1: the doors for for we first to come home and

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Speaker 1: now they've thrown up some new restrictions people wanting to

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Speaker 1: get their citizenships. I'm just wondering if they as serial

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Speaker 1: leonned the government, have they changed if people want to

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Speaker 1: get this, how difficult is it to become a citizen

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Speaker 1: of Cyril owned? Is that change? Are they following what's

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Speaker 1: going on in Ghana or things still the same?

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Speaker 2: Well, it's it's actually it's you know, it's a good

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Speaker 2: question to ask you because we got a friend within

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Speaker 2: from twenty nineteen to right now, only within like a

518
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Speaker 2: six to seven year period from the year of return

519
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 2: to now is where you have all of this action

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Speaker 2: towards citizenship being included in our return to the continent. Priory,

521
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 2: people were coming, they were paying their residencies, they was living.

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Speaker 2: If they were able to get one, they would get one,

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Speaker 2: but it was never like a big part of the

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Speaker 2: program of the movement. So now you see that citizenship

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Speaker 2: is a big part of the program. And for myself,

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Speaker 2: I know that our movement for Sanni and the un

527
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Speaker 2: i A here is serially on. We played a big

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Speaker 2: role in interfacing and introduc to the proper government officials

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Speaker 2: the idea of us giving us a pathway based on

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Speaker 2: heritage based on our right to be here, based on

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Speaker 2: our us not knowing who we were, but us taking

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Speaker 2: DNA test and finding out who we are and wanting

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Speaker 2: to reconnect with our exact lineages, with our exact groups.

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Speaker 2: And so we opened up that pathway and we advocated

535
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Speaker 2: for several years, and then eventually the government changed and

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Speaker 2: the new government caught twenty nineteen and started issuing citizenships.

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Speaker 2: It happened without open without a set policy. The President

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Speaker 2: himself began the issue to citizenships, which he has executive

539
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 2: authority to do, but it didn't mean that we had

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Speaker 2: a policy that was approved by Parliament for them to

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Speaker 2: maintain ongoing. So the struggle continued to a policy and

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00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 2: even right now of our company, Golladogu and about five,

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00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 2: maybe about three other African American owned companies of repatriates

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Speaker 2: are involved with the process of working with the government

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Speaker 2: to advise them as they tried to develop this policy

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Speaker 2: so it could be set in stone for future generations

547
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Speaker 2: to say they took this thing through Parliament and the

548
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Speaker 2: government decided that this is how they want to make

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Speaker 2: this happen. So we're still fighting for the actual policy

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Speaker 2: for the pathway of turn but along the way from

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Speaker 2: twenty nineteen and now, the policy has been it has

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Speaker 2: been changing on and off. There's always been adopting, it's

553
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 2: always been changing. It hasn't been really set in stone

554
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 2: this country. From twenty nineteen to two and twenty three

555
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 2: issue over four hundred and fifty citizenships, and then from

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Speaker 2: then they postpone the issue in the citizenships for their

557
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 2: own government internal issues, not because anything dealing with us

558
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 2: or dealing with that, but they have their own internal

559
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 2: issues with their own immigration and their own government affairs,

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Speaker 2: and they asked us to wait until they figure themselves

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Speaker 2: out before they read issue citizenship. So since twenty and

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Speaker 2: twenty three November, they have not issued citizenships. But what

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Speaker 2: they have done is they have given us a new

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Speaker 2: policy where the people come for two trips. The first trip,

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Speaker 2: when they come, they go and.

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Speaker 1: Who I thought? Right there? Chief oday, we let's step

567
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Speaker 1: a side and check the news, traffic and weather in

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Speaker 1: our different cities. And I'll don't you explain that because

569
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Speaker 1: if we've got a tweet question coming from one of

570
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: our listeners wants to know how do I repatriate? They

571
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Speaker 1: want to go to Syrial one. They want to do

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00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: what you did, family, just waking up. We got Chief

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Speaker 1: for Day join us from cyrial Leone and also brother

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Speaker 1: Sengo by A in Washington, d C. Two Govey Heights

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00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: and they're explaining what Garvey means and what Cartage Woodson

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Speaker 1: means to us today. What are your thoughts? You can

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Speaker 1: join our conversation. Just reach out to us at eight

578
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Speaker 1: hundred four or five zero seventy eight seventy six and

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Speaker 1: we'll take your phone calls after the news that's next

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Speaker 1: and Grand Rising family, thanks of waking up with us

581
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Speaker 1: on this Monday morning, a holiday for selfies, Presidence Day.

582
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Speaker 1: You know it's a holiday for some well, federal holiday

583
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Speaker 1: at least our guest brother Sego bay A, who joined

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Speaker 1: us from Washington, DC and also Chief Fota checking in

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Speaker 1: from cerrial Leone. We're talking about Marcus Covey and also

586
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Speaker 1: discussing some of the issues that the d Asberg dealing with,

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Speaker 1: especially about teaching Govy's works on the continent. Before we

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Speaker 1: go back from We Love Me, just remind you we're

589
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Speaker 1: got to talk politics late this morning with a black

590
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Speaker 1: poltics expert, doctor James Taylor. Late this week he joined

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Speaker 1: by a naturopatic and traditional doctor doctor Abel be here,

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00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: So hey, if you have any health challenges, please speak

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00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: to this lady because she can give you two alternatives

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Speaker 1: if you have any health challenges. And also educator and

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00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: author doctor Kemmick Shocky will be here. So if you

596
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: are in Baltimore, make sure you keep your radio lotting

597
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: tight on ten ten WLB or if you are in

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Speaker 1: the DMV or on fourteen fifty wol all right and

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Speaker 1: Chief Oodo in syrial ar Um, let you finish your thought.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, So what I was saying was that currently

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Speaker 2: the policy is that people come on two trips. The

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Speaker 2: trips have to be at least a year part. And

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Speaker 2: what happens is that people come on the first trip,

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Speaker 2: they do a homecoming, they go through all the welcome

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Speaker 2: home festivities, they connect with an ethnic group, they get

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Speaker 2: a name, they do the basic tourism stuff. They also

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Speaker 2: submit their paperwork at that time applying for the citizenship.

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Speaker 2: That's the first trip. Then there's like a year between

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Speaker 2: there where they want people to demonstrate unity or solidarity

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Speaker 2: of the country in some kind of way. And then

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00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 2: also the government now has to call people back on

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00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 2: their second tour. On their second trip and during that trip,

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Speaker 2: they give them a government workshop. They also give them

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Speaker 2: the whole immigration processing here. So right now we have

615
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 2: about two groups or three groups who have come on

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Speaker 2: their first trip and we're waiting for the government now

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Speaker 2: to give us a call to when we can tell

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Speaker 2: our people to come back and get their citizenships and

619
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Speaker 2: their passports. So we're still in the game. But just

620
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 2: like in Ghana, there's challenges. There's always going to be

621
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Speaker 2: challenges here in Syrilyon. They gave citizenship to an African

622
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 2: ancestry DNA tester, Isaiah Washington in twenty ten, but they

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Speaker 2: never brought a policy for others. My wife and I

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Speaker 2: and others who are the African ancestry DNA testers. We

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00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 2: campaign this government until ultimately in twenty nineteen they opened

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00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 2: it up on the basis of DNA, and so now

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00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 2: instead of it just being African ance history, they're being

628
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 2: more liberal with the DNA, so it's more open now.

629
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Speaker 2: But they've required DNA on this pathway in Ghana, they

630
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Speaker 2: do not. Ghana also has a longer history of repatriation

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Speaker 2: in this way than what serially owned does, and so

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Speaker 2: that that would be the difference.

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Speaker 1: All right, Hold that thought right there, thirteen away from

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Speaker 1: the top of Yeah, Christians calling from Malibu. Who has

635
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Speaker 1: a question for you? Chief Foe and brother Sangor he's

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Speaker 1: on line for a grand rising Christian.

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Speaker 6: Grand rising gentleman. There are fifty four countries I think

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Speaker 6: four territories, maybe seven, since they have all this constantly

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00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 6: going on right down. But how come they don't welcome us?

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00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 6: I mean, you talked about two countries, but there's a

641
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 6: lot of countries. And I would go back to Africa,

642
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,280
Speaker 6: but it doesn't seem like they want to extend themselves

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Speaker 6: like we've been kicked that like some of these people

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Speaker 6: who've been trafficked and when they get full back in,

645
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 6: they get all the resources, they give them, all the structure.

646
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 6: I'm not hearing that. But I would do that. I would.

647
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 6: I would leave Malibu and go to Africa. I think

648
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 6: in Africa one time in k Town, but I would

649
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 6: go there. But it seems like, and I know how

650
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 6: it is to go to another country, you got to

651
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 6: go through certain processes, but it seems like Africa has

652
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 6: the country to be more engaging to us who have

653
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 6: been enslaved.

654
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 2: Help me with this, Yeah, man, I agree, I agree.

655
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 2: I think I think that the African countries as a nation.

656
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 2: They have to do more to actually understand what it is,

657
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 2: you know, where we're coming from with it, because a

658
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 2: lot of times they don't see it how we see it.

659
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 2: They don't see it like YoY, my answers were kidnapped

660
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 2: and exchange here for cheap European goods, and we're the

661
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 2: children and we're coming back and the world is different

662
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 2: now than when we left. Now we got to go

663
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 2: through all this bureaucratic stuff just to belong again. And

664
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,240
Speaker 2: they haven't properly educating these people here on this side

665
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 2: after who we are, and so there's a lot of

666
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 2: miseducation and misunderstanding that's blocking these policies from being more open.

667
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 2: But it's not just these two countries. Benin has a

668
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 2: policy right now, but Qino Fosso has a policy right now.

669
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 2: It's spreading now, it's beginning to spread, just like the

670
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 2: policy that the AEES started up getting the foreign European

671
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 2: militaries off of African territory. Now Ghana is doing it

672
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 2: and Senagogue is doing it. But both of those countries

673
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 2: aren't part of the AEES. So these countries are influencing

674
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 2: each other cirileone looks to gun and Gunna looks to sirileone,

675
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 2: and Benin is looking at both of them and Guinea

676
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 2: besides looking at all three of them. So what's happening? Brother?

677
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 2: Trust me, when I got here in twenty thirteen, it

678
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 2: was not like this.

679
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: All right, thank you, Christian.

680
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 6: I'm go ahead and cake you appreciate you, all.

681
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: Right, Thanks Christian. Having said that, though, it is it

682
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 1: easier now because you've been there and you've seen people

683
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: want to repatriate like a Christian? Have they modified it?

684
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: Because now you know the issue is with with Ghana

685
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: that they're putting more restrictions, the sort of you know

686
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: they say, come on over, come on over, and folks

687
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: come over and many people, uh, we heard it on

688
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 1: last week.

689
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 4: You know.

690
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,959
Speaker 1: They they've got their you know, things on the wall

691
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: for something. They've they've sent all their belongings and moving

692
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 1: to Ghana, and now that they got some new restrictions

693
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: they have to deal with. Is serially only make it

694
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: easier in case people want to instead of going to Ghana,

695
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: they can go to syrially owned or even Liberia or

696
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: some other country.

697
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 2: I want to say, serially makes it easier but I

698
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 2: would say that serially owned is a whole another situation

699
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 2: and what it is in Ghana, and that if someone's

700
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 2: from Ghana would would would relocate to serily owned, they

701
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 2: would probably find themselves in a situation where they're among

702
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 2: early pioneers as opposed to in Ghana you have thousands

703
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 2: and thousands and thousands of Vipatrians there already people who

704
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 2: live there and work there. From the dias Board, here

705
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 2: is a little handful of us. So you'll find opportunities here,

706
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,760
Speaker 2: you'll find the chance to you know, correct the errors

707
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 2: made in Ghana incerely own because we are a timeline

708
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 2: behind them in terms of developing this relationship with the

709
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 2: dis board in the modern times.

710
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 1: And let me bringing brother single a nine away from

711
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 1: the top. Brother, it is just part of what you

712
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: say is gofy Shady come back and the world whirldwind this.

713
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: Do you think this is part of his vision now

714
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,720
Speaker 1: where folks are trying to get back to Africa.

715
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 3: Well yes, but see we have to understand that Yurugu

716
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,919
Speaker 3: the system of white supremacy as people you know France,

717
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 3: Chris Wilson, may it clear of us. They want to

718
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 3: do everything they can to keep us divided. That's why

719
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 3: you have borders, That's why you have I don't call

720
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 3: them countries. Everybody keep on saying countries. First of all, Africa,

721
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 3: the continent. Africa does their state and I call them

722
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 3: states a confusion because they're following European models. So the

723
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 3: answer to your question short is yes, absolutely, Garvey had

724
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 3: a vision, and many before Garvey is. You can look

725
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,760
Speaker 3: at Little Africa in the West, which I call Hiati.

726
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 3: So wherever African people are, they have a right to

727
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 3: have their own self determination. But wherever we are, even

728
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 3: here in North America, look at what's going on. We

729
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:29,919
Speaker 3: don't have proper respect for citizenship in America. So let's

730
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 3: be real. Anywhere Africans are are pressed and downtrodden, and

731
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 3: their rights of humanity are stolen or pressed. So no

732
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 3: matter where Africans are and wherever you are, you're an

733
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 3: African and we have to fight to get back to

734
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 3: our traditional greatness. We didn't have borders in Africa. We

735
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 3: didn't create borders the brother early mentioned regions. I worked

736
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 3: with the Pan African Fellows Movement and they're working to

737
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 3: try to bring together Africans from a Pan African perspective.

738
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 3: The UNIA is involved in that, but I also work

739
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 3: with other groups just because I'm an active member of

740
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 3: the UNIA. So we got to get off of this

741
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 3: thing about its individuality. Or I'm from Jamaica or I'm

742
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 3: from Trinidad. You're an African before you're anything else. Before

743
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 3: you get into religion, you're an African. We're no Koorashiti

744
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 3: made it clear. You can be a Christian, but if

745
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 3: you're not an African Christian, then you miss it. You

746
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 3: can be a Muslim, but if you're not an African Muslim,

747
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 3: you're gonna miss it. You can be a europa Icon

748
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 3: and all of them are traditional religions that I tied

749
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 3: to Africa. We got a lot of work to do,

750
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:40,280
Speaker 3: called but it's happening. As Chief Fodey said, change is coming.

751
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 3: It's not going to come over night. They didn't oppress

752
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 3: us and bring us into bondage and slavery in North

753
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 3: America and oppression and not knowing our history in Africa overnight.

754
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 3: So it's a process, and sometimes we become impatient with

755
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 3: the process because we've been programmed of a microwave kind

756
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 3: of mentality that you can put it in the microwave

757
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 3: to get it quicker than you put it in the oven.

758
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 3: But the reality is you have to first free your mind.

759
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 3: And once you free your mind, your ass will follow,

760
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 3: your behind will follow, and that is the most important thing.

761
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 3: That's why education things Chief oday is talking about doing

762
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 3: on the continent. There are many Africans from the so

763
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 3: called I ain't gonna call it this far, I've called

764
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 3: it from abroad who have gone back to Africa and

765
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 3: even though they hadn't gotten citizenship, they're dealing. They're building

766
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 3: in Africa. So just because you don't get your citizenship

767
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 3: right away does not mean you can't go back and

768
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 3: build in Africa. The dollar goes further and outside of

769
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 3: America than it does in America. But even to get

770
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 3: away from the dollar and to start dealing with basics,

771
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 3: there are many African brothers and sisters who've gone back

772
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 3: to the continent over many years and adopted villages. I

773
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 3: know many of them. So let's don't let citizenship be

774
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 3: an issue. But also understand that governments have processes, and

775
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 3: different governments on the continent since Berlin Conference, are different.

776
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,760
Speaker 3: That's why we're trying to bring together a whole Africa

777
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 3: where we can have a whole policy for everywhere, but

778
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,919
Speaker 3: we don't in control right now. Right now, the gun

779
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 3: Inian government, the Senate, Elice government, the even the South

780
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 3: African government and Nigerian government are run by European politics,

781
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 3: and we have to get away from European politics and

782
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 3: get back to African, a centered African politics, which are

783
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:41,760
Speaker 3: real democracy and real being your brother's keeper. Following Mahat

784
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 3: and Mabutu. That's not going on on the continent yet

785
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 3: because we even over here in North America, look at

786
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 3: what's going on in North America. Our Africans here are

787
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 3: not united, going fighting with each other to support each other.

788
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 3: So we need to be very clear. This struggle or

789
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 3: the to uplift ourselves is not an overnight thing. So

790
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 3: I say to you called some of the programs that

791
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 3: we do during Black History Month. One example, we do

792
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 3: a Freedom Friday two fridays out of every other Friday

793
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 3: that the Division three thirty does, and people need to

794
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 3: write this down Facebook dot com slash unia Division three

795
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 3: thirty and you can see all of them and you

796
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 3: can also go back and get them all that you missed,

797
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 3: because we've done one a last Friday that was awesome

798
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 3: around what's going on in the sy Hill States and

799
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 3: what's going on with other states, the dualism, the differences.

800
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 3: We did a program. You can go to what it's

801
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 3: called the New Black Learning Channel on YouTube and check

802
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 3: them all out all the way back years back. But

803
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 3: then we got one coming up on the twenty seventh

804
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 3: Friday that I want people to tune into. By the

805
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 3: Chief Foe Day, the third Assistant President General, the second

806
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 3: Assistant President of General, doctor Chinza Rakahini. Many people are

807
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 3: familiar with her works, who's based in the virgin I

808
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 3: myself as first Assistant President General based here in DC,

809
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 3: and our President General Barbara Killian Kromer and our international

810
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 3: organized Professor David Horn, many of y'all are familiar with,

811
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 3: and our Assistant to the President General Mama Tendai who

812
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 3: works with A Dossi and so many other groups. We're

813
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:22,280
Speaker 3: gonna be talking about what is and is not going

814
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 3: on where it relates to studying our story and going

815
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 3: forward in twenty twenty six. So and I want Chief

816
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 3: to also tie the Gulla energy in because sometime we

817
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 3: in North America we get confused. The reality is the

818
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 3: major African traditional tithes that African people have had in

819
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 3: North America are their Gulor history and culture. And I'll

820
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 3: give you an example. Most Africans in North America come

821
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 3: from the southern part of the States, their families from

822
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 3: North Carolina and etc. Well, that is tied to the

823
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 3: Gaulor history. Chief Fode is an expert on that. And

824
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 3: you heard him mentioned Galla Doogu and as many other

825
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 3: entities not only in Africa, but here in the Galla

826
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 3: States or the southern part of the United States that

827
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 3: are doing work. So that energy is also in Africa.

828
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 3: So we need to get back to our ancient culture.

829
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 3: We need to understand that Africa and our ancestors are

830
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 3: calling us to return to our greatness. And if we

831
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 3: ride right on.

832
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 1: Hold, I thought right there, brother Sengo, we got to

833
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: step out and get caught up with ladies' trafficking. Well,

834
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 1: I'll let you finish your thought when we get back. Also,

835
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,760
Speaker 1: we got some folks questions for both you and Chief

836
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: Foe Day and serially own family. You two can get

837
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: in on this discussion. Reach out to us at eight

838
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: hundred four or five zero seventy eight seventy six and

839
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 1: we'll take your phone calls after we check the traffic.

840
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: It's next and Grant Rising family, thanks for starting your

841
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 1: day with us on this it's a holiday for some

842
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 1: in the States here President State, that's what they call it,

843
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 1: the federal holidays, so the banks are closed and also

844
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: you won't get any mail today, our guests right now,

845
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: Brother Sego bay A Garvey, I joined us from Washington, DC,

846
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 1: and also Chief Phote another gave it. He's checking in

847
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 1: from Freetown serially on it's this afternoon right now, brother

848
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: saying God, we got some folks want to talk to

849
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 1: both of you, brothers. But first I'll let you finish

850
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: your thought. Then we'll take the calls.

851
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, for the second time. I will wrap up.

852
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 3: But I just want to make it clear that this

853
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 3: month is very important for us to focus on our story.

854
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 3: But three hundred and sixty five days a year, and

855
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 3: on the twenty seventh, the President General, myself as first assistant,

856
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 3: our second assistant President General, doctor Chinzarah Kahini, and we

857
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 3: know African women rule and that's a whole nother discussion,

858
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 3: but that's important for us to understand that we have

859
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 3: held down the African women for too long and what

860
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 3: they rise is to the demise of Yurugu and then

861
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 3: Chief Foe Day, third Assistant President General and others of

862
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 3: our parent body will be on our Freedom Friday. These

863
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 3: Freedom Fridays are very important. They don't just happen in February.

864
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 3: They happen every other Friday. And that's our means of

865
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 3: helping to educate and to share, and if not just

866
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,280
Speaker 3: you and I a member, we bring on all kinds

867
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 3: of people. Like last week we had our last Friday,

868
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 3: we had Bamboos, Bambo's, Bambozi Shango and Bubaka some money

869
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 3: from Niger Africa and they talked about the importance and

870
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 3: then Paul Pumphrey, they talked about the importance of the

871
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 3: differences the dualities of going on in Africa because right

872
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 3: now the Scio States, the Cofederation is something we all

873
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 3: need to be focused on and supportive of because their

874
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 3: sake out to DAP led us to understand that we

875
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 3: have to federate, meaning all all states of African people

876
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 3: need to come together. And that's why I was selling earlier.

877
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 3: The only person ever elected in nineteen twenty as president

878
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 3: of all of Africa was the right, excellent, oural markets Mozagai.

879
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:50,760
Speaker 3: So even though he didn't step foot on the continent,

880
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 3: he was representing African people everywhere. And that's what me,

881
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 3: Chief Foday, Barba Kielly, Sister Cinzerah, David Horn, and so

882
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,240
Speaker 3: many of us continue to do to get our brothers

883
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 3: and sisters to wake up and understand we got more

884
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 3: power than we realized. We need to raise up our electricity.

885
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 3: So I'll stop on that point and listen to some

886
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 3: of the callers or questions or comments that they have.

887
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 3: So to a call, I know, you know, we goby

888
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 3: as a long winded We got a lot to say,

889
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 3: but our people need to open up their ears and

890
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 3: open up their minds. So you free your mind and

891
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 3: your behind will follow, all right?

892
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: Five after the Tope hour is Brother Seingo and Chief

893
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: Foday Anoa was calling from Washington, DC online five grand

894
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: ras and a are you on with Brother Seingo and

895
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 1: Brother and Chief Oday.

896
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 5: Hello, I have some questions about the internal and external

897
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 5: folks who uh, I guess the enemies of Marcus Garvey.

898
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 5: I read everything I can get my hands on as

899
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 5: far as his and the last book I read Marcus

900
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:59,399
Speaker 5: Garvey spoke about the people who were out against them

901
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 5: at the time, the Blue Vein Society, And I was

902
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 5: wondering if you know anything about the Blue Vein Society

903
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 5: and how they actually sabotaged the movement. Could you speak

904
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 5: on that? I think I'll listen if you want to respond.

905
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 5: Does any either of you know anything about that?

906
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 2: I think I think I can. I can get you

907
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 2: know says something about that? You know, Mackay Moussa Garvey,

908
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 2: like many people who were actively involved in our political

909
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 2: movement for liberation in the United States one hundred years ago,

910
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 2: they came from the Caribbeans, where on those islands, particularly Jamaica,

911
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 2: African people are the massive mass majority right, and within

912
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 2: that you had the caste system of colorism that was

913
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 2: a part of the power structure, had the interwoman in

914
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 2: the power structure since every days, and even though slavery

915
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 2: was over, the structure and the system and those contradictions

916
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 2: were still there. And so what was most radical and

917
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 2: revolutionary about markets Mossade Garby was that he was a

918
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 2: black man. He was a black Jamaican in the circles

919
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 2: vying for power against those that were usually preserved for

920
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 2: the descendants of mulatto's and half caste and lighter skinned people.

921
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 2: Right in America, you have the same thing going on

922
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 2: for the same exact reason, largely around HBCUs, largely around

923
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 2: the clergy, largely around the Masonic organizations. When you have

924
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 2: this hierarchy where it seems the power gets lighter and

925
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 2: lighter and lighter and lighter and lighter and lighter as

926
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 2: you goes to the top, and so you have it.

927
00:51:56,719 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 2: Even in the case of Liberia, the whole AFTERCT American

928
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 2: community gets blamed for what happened in Liberia, But there

929
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 2: was a colored caste system of mixed race descendants who

930
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 2: were at the top that really should be held accountable.

931
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 2: Even here on the continent during slavery, there was a

932
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 2: mulatto class. The Europeans would create mulatto class. They would

933
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 2: intermarried with coastal chiefs families, and they would create mulatto

934
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 2: royal families. And that's who would be contracted as mercenaries

935
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 2: to go invade and invade village interior. They don't tell

936
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 2: us this, We got to be here long enough to

937
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:43,919
Speaker 2: see it. But a structure, it's a structure that market

938
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 2: Moside Garvey was up against. Even in the United States.

939
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 2: So even within our organization the un i A. You

940
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 2: had people who was from that structure and would fight

941
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 2: for that structure within the un Ia even though Garby

942
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 2: was trying to eradicate that structure.

943
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, me and thank Anwow, that's a great question about

944
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,919
Speaker 1: the blue vein society refers to especially it's the brown

945
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: paper bag test. But brother saying, God did Wasn't this

946
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: an issue between Garvey and and the boy didn't? It's

947
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: one of them calling him names or something, trying to

948
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 1: put him down because he was darker skinned.

949
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 3: Of course, of course that's chief body so laid it out.

950
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 3: That's always been a divisive tactic used against us, to

951
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 3: put us against each other. Uh, you know it is.

952
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 3: It's all over the place. And to answer to my brother, yeah,

953
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 3: we're very much aware of the enemies, no matter what

954
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 3: name they had or what group they were with, there

955
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 3: were many enemies that were against Garvey. And we have

956
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,280
Speaker 3: many folks today that are against what we're talking about.

957
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 3: And that's why I make it very plain. We're not

958
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 3: concerned about those people who do not want to rise

959
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 3: up to their traditional greatness. We're concerned about those who

960
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 3: want to rise back to their traditional greatness. Because we

961
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 3: settle for projects when we built the pyramids, and to

962
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 3: get back to that energy is what we're talking about.

963
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 3: I'm not talking about fighting each other like crabs in

964
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 3: a barrel or I'm lighted.

965
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 4: I'm better.

966
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 3: You know, y'all know the saying that white people put

967
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 3: down there. You know, if you're yellow, you're mellow, if

968
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 3: you black, get back. No, we ain't, We ain't. We

969
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 3: ain't followed for that foolishness. But yeah, my brother, Yeah,

970
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 3: that many enemies and you know, everybody that's got a

971
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 3: black pigmentation or skin ain't kinfolk or ain't serious. And

972
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,359
Speaker 3: so we got to watch that energy all around us

973
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 3: because who shot Malcolm xx? Y'all y'all you understand what

974
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 3: I'm saying, my brother, that we got many, many of

975
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 3: our own people who fall for not understanding people like

976
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,760
Speaker 3: Marcus Garvey. And I want to be very clear. Everybody

977
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,800
Speaker 3: always talks about Marcus Garvey the individual. Marcus Garvey committed

978
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 3: his life to the collective will of our people and

979
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 3: our upliftment. And it was not just Garvey. I want

980
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 3: to make that clear. Their name's unknown. Some of your

981
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 3: family members might even have been you and I A

982
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,879
Speaker 3: But like chief, they say everybody that joins us ain't

983
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 3: seriously about us. There are many many agents that have

984
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 3: been sent to try to keep us divided, and I

985
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 3: want to make that clear. But guess what, they can't win.

986
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 3: They can't win, and we're gonna. We're gonna survive. We

987
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 3: hear today talking about it, because that's a perfect example

988
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:22,760
Speaker 3: that we're gonna survive.

989
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 6: We can.

990
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 3: We've been lick kicked, the views, drugged and robbed. And

991
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 3: there's Malcolm say, the House Negro and the field Negro.

992
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 3: That goes all the way back to how they program

993
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 3: us to divide us. But guess what, We're still here

994
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 3: and we're gonna make it through all of this. We're

995
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 3: gonna even make it through the chump era.

996
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: Right eleven after go ahead, Chief, Yeah, I'm.

997
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 2: Gonna say real quickness to piggyback over Baba was saying. Historically,

998
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 2: when you look at it, it looks like the Boulet

999
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:57,399
Speaker 2: or the Blue Van society of those days. Waves are

1000
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 2: all out war, using every institution they had under their

1001
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 2: own control to undermine and destroying markets. Derby in the

1002
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 2: un I.

1003
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 1: A and I yield all right, twelve, I have the top.

1004
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: Now Dorothy's checking in from La Online four Grand Rising

1005
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: Dorothy on with Chief Fodage just heard and all the

1006
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 1: brother brother Singo Baya as well.

1007
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 7: Thank you Grand Rising. My question is you stated that

1008
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 7: all African countries have problems with getting in as a citizen,

1009
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 7: but South Africa. There are many African Americans that have

1010
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 7: moved from US to South Africa. And from my research,

1011
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 7: there are two or African organizations that are recruiting African

1012
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 7: Americans to come back home to South Africa.

1013
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 4: Now I'm not.

1014
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 7: Clear about the the variance of the type of citizens

1015
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 7: ship that they have, but there doesn't seem to be

1016
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 7: problems in South Africa. And then my second issue is

1017
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 7: that Marcus Uh, Marcus Garfing at a shipping company. He

1018
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 7: had eighteen ships and they not only took African Americans

1019
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 7: to Jamaica, but also I believe one trip to Africa

1020
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 7: and several trips to Europe. And of course the US

1021
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 7: government shut him down uh for mail fraud on the ship,

1022
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 7: you know, and his shipping companies were just continued. But

1023
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 7: he had eighteen ships. Thank you so much.

1024
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 1: All right, brother saying all you want to hit that

1025
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 1: about the maccus GoF ship black style lineup.

1026
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 3: She has a lot a lot of facts, but some

1027
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 3: of it, some of it is not not totally corrected.

1028
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 3: There were several ships, yes, and he did. They did travel.

1029
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 3: The Black Star Line was not just designed to take

1030
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 3: people back and forth, but is also designed to create commerce,

1031
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 3: develop them in products and yes, in terms of Azania

1032
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:07,439
Speaker 3: South Africa, one of our ancestor, doctor Nina Shaby, who

1033
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 3: was an ambassador with us under my leadership as President General,

1034
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 3: was from Azania. She's absolutely correct. There's a whole lot

1035
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 3: of people on the continent that are very clear that

1036
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 3: they want the resources of the Africans in the diaspora.

1037
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 3: And everybody does not have to apply for citizenship to

1038
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 3: go there. There are other methods and ways and means

1039
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 3: to go and do work there without just getting citizenship.

1040
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 3: So she's absolutely correct on that. I also want to

1041
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 3: make it clear that Godby did the traveling around the

1042
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 3: world and saw that there was no black people at

1043
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 3: the top anywhere in politics, spirituality, economics, So that's why

1044
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 3: the Unia was created. So Godby traveled to London. God

1045
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 3: me travels around the world. He did not get to Africa,

1046
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 3: but he went to many many places in the Caribbean

1047
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 3: and saw the same condition, so I want to thank her.

1048
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 3: Continue to do your research. But there was three ships

1049
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 3: that the U. N i A had and they were

1050
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 3: named after various different people, and the Blackstar line is

1051
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 3: how they came after Marcus Garby with an empty envelope,

1052
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 3: and that's why he was jailed for five year sentence

1053
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 3: and did two and a half years. So anyway, thank

1054
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 3: you for the call system.

1055
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 1: All right, let me ask Chief fo Davis, because you

1056
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 1: mentioned saying God godfer spent some time in the UK,

1057
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 1: Chief Phote, have you seen a lot of dashboardings from

1058
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: Britain coming to Syria, Leone or any of the other

1059
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 1: African states? Are you seeing as much as we hear

1060
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 1: about it on this side, I'll.

1061
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 2: Say there's more people serially owned. Being a former British

1062
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 2: colony has a more stronger, closer connection to Britain than

1063
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 2: it does to the United States of America for that purpose.

1064
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 4: And.

1065
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 2: So here you're seeing a lot of serially only ends

1066
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 2: will go out and live in and they live in

1067
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 2: European countries, and you know they live in America. But

1068
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 2: a lot of them, aren't your A lot of them.

1069
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 2: When I was in Guinea, the same thing there's some

1070
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 2: in America, but most of them are in France. They're

1071
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 2: like one of the largest groups of Africans in France,

1072
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 2: and so it seems like the culture and the language

1073
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 2: and the business flow between though, between the metropol and

1074
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 2: the colony like it has been since you know, the

1075
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 2: scrambled for Africa in the same way, just in modern days.

1076
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, old I thought, And then we got to step

1077
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 1: aside for a few moments, and we come back though,

1078
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: let us know, are you seeing a flow in flow

1079
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 1: from from France or from the UK coming to the

1080
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 1: African States, the former colonists, and let us know that.

1081
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 1: Seventeen after the top of the our family gotta step

1082
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 1: aside for a few moments, come back with single by

1083
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 1: Ay and Chief Fode next and grand rising family and

1084
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 1: thanks for choosing us to start your weekend again. Twenty

1085
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:00,080
Speaker 1: minutes after the top, they I with, I guess to

1086
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 1: Garvey Icebroo saying go by a in Washington, d C.

1087
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 1: And Chief Fote call us from Freetown, serial lyone. And

1088
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 1: before I left for the break, my question to the

1089
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 1: chief was, are you seeing a lot of returnees if

1090
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 1: you will coming back to the African the former African colonies.

1091
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 1: We know about the state side where people are going

1092
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 1: back to Ghana, especially Ghane, but going back to trying

1093
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 1: to repatriate. But you've seen it from from the from

1094
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 1: the Caribbean, or you've seen from from the UK, from France,

1095
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,479
Speaker 1: you've seen folks going back into Africa. Chief.

1096
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, absolutely, there's an influx. And I think there's

1097
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 2: an influx for several reasons. One, there's an influx of

1098
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 2: deportation from European countries and the US people are being deported,

1099
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 2: and then secondly there's also people who are voluntarily leaving

1100
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 2: after just being disappointed with their experiences out there. Then

1101
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 2: you have people who are born out there who never

1102
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 2: had a connection to the continent at first generation Americans

1103
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 2: or first generation people in Britain and there they're now

1104
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 2: being moved to come and you know, make their connection

1105
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 2: on the content as well. So it's a sensation going on.

1106
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 2: Every year you see more and more people coming back

1107
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 2: to return to visit. And then there's also more and

1108
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 2: more people coming back just in general than what I've

1109
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 2: seen when I came here in twenty thirteen. In twenty thirteen,

1110
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 2: it was very very dry. You know, people wasn't really

1111
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 2: even talking about repatuation too loud. But today everybody wants

1112
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 2: to know how much it costs for a citizenship, where

1113
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 2: can I build a home, how much for the land.

1114
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 2: And I think it's been commercialized because in order to

1115
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:40,920
Speaker 2: make it happen, these governments had to promote almost like

1116
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 2: a brand to the African diasport who had the resources

1117
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 2: to actually involve themselves in this kind of engagement. Not

1118
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 2: everybody care. Now everybody can afford to travel back as

1119
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 2: far for the continent if.

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Speaker 4: It's not you know, can I chime in here, Carl,

1121
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 4: This is a very important point. Sometimes those Africans that

1122
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 4: are in the US don't understand. We'll talk about like

1123
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 4: the word dashpora are like abroad, as Garvey said, Africa

1124
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 4: for the Africans, those and hom and those abroad. They're

1125
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:24,919
Speaker 4: more Africans abroad than we understand in the US. Even

1126
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,439
Speaker 4: in the Western hemisphere, and I'm not just talking about

1127
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 4: the Caribbean. South America has more Africans than any other region.

1128
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:37,919
Speaker 4: In the West, they're Africans. And of course in the East,

1129
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 4: as we were talking about Europe and other places, France

1130
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 4: and different places, they're Africans. All over.

1131
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 3: This is why Garvianism is so important. We're not just

1132
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 3: talking about Africans in the US. We got to get

1133
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 3: up off of this whole thing of Africans in North America.

1134
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 3: Yes we have, we have been here and learned a

1135
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 3: lot and set at the belly of the beast. But

1136
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 3: you got Africans.

1137
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 7: All over the world, all over the.

1138
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 3: World that have resources that when we return to Africa.

1139
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 3: That's why I was seeing earlier about Garvey being the

1140
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:14,919
Speaker 3: only elected Now this is important. He's the only elected

1141
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 3: president representing all Africans around the world. There's no other

1142
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 3: person that has ever been elected. We got to get

1143
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 3: back to that. Nineteen twenty Garvey was not just elected

1144
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 3: the president in general. He was elected the president to

1145
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 3: represent Africans all over, not just Africans on the continent,

1146
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 3: Africans in Europe, Africans in South America, Africans in the Caribbean,

1147
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 3: Africans in North America, Africans in Canada, Africans everywhere. And

1148
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 3: when we bring that unification together, that one movement together,

1149
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 3: we have enough resources to fight back oppression, to rebuild Africa.

1150
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 3: And that's what we need to focus on. Rebuilding Africa

1151
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 3: because as my brother, Professor David Horne and doctor Tinderah

1152
01:04:56,840 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 3: always remind us, we're not descendants. All human beings are descendants,

1153
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:08,439
Speaker 3: including Urugus. We are ascendants. Our citizenship was taken from

1154
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 3: us in Africa, our hands us. The citizenship was taken

1155
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 3: from us and taken out of Africa and taking other places.

1156
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 3: So we need to recognize South America has more Africans

1157
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 3: and slaves and and and oppressed by the Portuguese and

1158
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 3: others than anywhere any other place in the Western hemisphere.

1159
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 3: So we need to understand and language and geographics divide us,

1160
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 3: but we need to understand universal music brings us closer together.

1161
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 3: That's the universal language. And our culture is the same.

1162
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 3: We might have various different subcultures, but African culture is powerful.

1163
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 3: So when you go to Black Year and you see

1164
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 3: various different groups practicing African culture. When you go to

1165
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 3: the UK, and I've been there twice and hosts of

1166
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 3: the Alpha Baalan Revivalist movement led by brother Leda Bandaka

1167
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 3: who is the High Commissioner General to you and i

1168
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 3: A and one of his sons who's an ambassador of Shakarah,

1169
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 3: they are carrying on African culture in the UK. So

1170
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 3: African culture exists all around the world, but we have

1171
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 3: to all as Chief Fo they say, understand Africans from

1172
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 3: other places return to Africa and once we have gotten

1173
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 3: back away from the Urugul division of the Berlin Conference

1174
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 3: and get rid of boundaries, you'll begin to see the

1175
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 3: power in the continent. But Unoko has told us they're

1176
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 3: over three hundred million Africans in India alone, So we

1177
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 3: need to understand how powerful we are. And many of

1178
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 3: our brothers and sisters don't know or know of our

1179
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 3: other brothers and sisters and other places. That's why it's

1180
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 3: so important, and that's why I wanted to have Chief

1181
01:06:57,720 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 3: Fo de On because as I said, Chief Foe Day

1182
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 3: represents several hats as a young African warrior, He's not

1183
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 3: stuck on one area. He's about bringing our various different families,

1184
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 3: institutions and organizations together under one umbrolla. And that's what

1185
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 3: we have. Our President Jenneral always say we want movement,

1186
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 3: and Carl, I know I'm long winded.

1187
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:21,840
Speaker 1: Sometimes No, no, it's no, it's it's it's cool. But

1188
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 1: I got twenty minutes after the top there, brother saying

1189
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:26,080
Speaker 1: and Chief for that. I have a question for both

1190
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 1: of you though, since we was talking about Marcus Govey,

1191
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 1: both of you guys are godviy ice. What was it

1192
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 1: about Marcus Govey? What was it about him as a

1193
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 1: person or was he just was he was he just

1194
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 1: the man for the times just sort of he was

1195
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 1: sort of just organic. But what he spoke and the

1196
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 1: black people all over the world gravitated to what he said.

1197
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 1: What was it about Marcus Govey as a person?

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Speaker 4: He was chosen? He was chosen. He was you know,

1199
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 4: as a lot of people. He was chosen, but chosen

1200
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 4: to get us.

1201
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 3: Back on track. And Garvey traveled around the world and

1202
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 3: saw for his own self, even though he didn't get

1203
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 3: to Africa, he went all other places and he saw

1204
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:07,480
Speaker 3: for himself that we were on the bottom of the

1205
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 3: latter and he said, we need to rise. Then he

1206
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 3: was inspired by people like Booker T. Washington, brother Robert

1207
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:16,559
Speaker 3: Love and so many other people. But I believe Godvey

1208
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 3: was chosen. Garvey came from a family of eleven children

1209
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 3: and only two of them survived the light into adulthood,

1210
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:28,679
Speaker 3: and that was him and his sister. Garvey had powerful parents.

1211
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 3: Godby was Maroon descendant. Garvey was chosen because you had

1212
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 3: people like many of the Maroons. Garvey was chosen to

1213
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 3: come to us. And I do believe that as the

1214
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:42,600
Speaker 3: more say that he was chosen, as a lot of

1215
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 3: people say he was chosen, but I do believe that

1216
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 3: Godby was a committed African who studied those who came

1217
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 3: before him, and he was influenced by many who came

1218
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:54,840
Speaker 3: before him, and many brothers like Gody say you might

1219
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 3: CHASEE the tiger, but the cubs are on the loose

1220
01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:58,599
Speaker 3: because Garvey did his job?

1221
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 1: What say you? Brother saying yeah, Chief Fode? What say you? Chief?

1222
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:12,839
Speaker 1: Hopefully I haven't lost Chief Fode comes from yeah, yeah,

1223
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:15,440
Speaker 1: what say you? Why do you think that Marcus Govey,

1224
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 1: as you know, such a such a hold. I guess

1225
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 1: everybody appreciate him at that time, most people did. The

1226
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 1: people who didn't were probably jealous and Marcus guy buddy,

1227
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 1: he had this universal appeal to black people. Why do

1228
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 1: you think so?

1229
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 2: I think you just said it. He had a universal

1230
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 2: appeal to black people, and I think it piggyback off

1231
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 2: of what uh Baba Si Gold was saying, we are

1232
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:41,240
Speaker 2: African people and from an African perspective. We're not just

1233
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:44,559
Speaker 2: looking at the material aspects of it. We're looking at

1234
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 2: the spiritual aspects and the alignment of events with individuals

1235
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:51,920
Speaker 2: and times and dates. You understand what we're looking at

1236
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 2: this thing mystically as well. And Marcus Garvey wasn't only

1237
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 2: a political leader of the un i A. You also

1238
01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:02,760
Speaker 2: started a political party. He also co founded a denomination

1239
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:05,600
Speaker 2: of the churchs the African orthodoxed terps. Gardy was a

1240
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:11,559
Speaker 2: deeply spiritual man. And judging by his character, he was

1241
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 2: rough and tough, but he wasn't he wasn't nasty. He

1242
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 2: had good character. So I think that's why because Garby

1243
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:26,719
Speaker 2: was the kind of man that black men should aspire

1244
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 2: to be, and he was the kind of man that

1245
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 2: a black woman wants her man to be.

1246
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, man, thirty minutes a top there. Chief, let

1247
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:41,200
Speaker 1: me ask yourself, because you're part of the Messiah Academy

1248
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:43,839
Speaker 1: Leadership Institute, can you tell us how that was created

1249
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 1: in the reason for and how they can contact.

1250
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 3: And how they can get in touch?

1251
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, absolutely so the Mosara Academy Leadership Institute, it

1252
01:10:55,520 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 2: comes from really like practical practical necessity. Well, I'm personally

1253
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 2: doing this work. I have to always educate people along

1254
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:08,440
Speaker 2: the way. I recruit people who have zero experience in organizing,

1255
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 2: and I have to give them a rough course on

1256
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:14,680
Speaker 2: pan Africanism and engage them in voluntarism so they can

1257
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:17,679
Speaker 2: develop some leadership skills, and before you know it, they're

1258
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:20,919
Speaker 2: actually better organized in their private life and they're actually

1259
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 2: pursuing Pan Africanism more. You know, here in Freetown I'm

1260
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 2: talking about there was massive displacement here in Freetown because

1261
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:32,599
Speaker 2: of the war, and so the last generation of children

1262
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 2: were born in the villages, but the modern generation is

1263
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:39,759
Speaker 2: born in the city, and there's that detachment from royal

1264
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 2: to urban urban lifestyle, and so the elders are detached

1265
01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 2: from the youth, and the youth are detached from the elders,

1266
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:51,800
Speaker 2: and the youth are more urban than they are royal

1267
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:55,559
Speaker 2: in Freetown, and it wasn't always like that, and so

1268
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:59,799
Speaker 2: the education that they would have gotten, the cultural education

1269
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 2: they would have gotten in the villages, they're not getting

1270
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:04,680
Speaker 2: in these cities. And so it was a perfect opportunity

1271
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:08,160
Speaker 2: for us to teach them pan Africanism and to sensitize

1272
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:13,599
Speaker 2: them with Roches, Fabianism, and these different African centered on

1273
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 2: Black liberation and theologies that we can take to at

1274
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:19,920
Speaker 2: least reach them and bring them into a practical program

1275
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 2: that can do what teach them and train them to

1276
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 2: be great fan Africanists and leaders in their own communities

1277
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:28,639
Speaker 2: and in their own rights. And so that is where

1278
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 2: the sensation of developing the Mosaic Academy comes from. Now.

1279
01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 2: The name, of course is inspired by Market mosa Garvey,

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Speaker 2: because I feel like his work was very practical that

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Speaker 2: anywhere he went he spoke, he organized, he recruited, he trained,

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Speaker 2: and from what I heard, he was a workhorse. He

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Speaker 2: very barely slept, He had to be forced to eat.

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Speaker 2: He wasn't a glut. He worked, he worked, he worked,

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Speaker 2: he worked, and people around him were inspired to work

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Speaker 2: like him because he maintained the standard of work as

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Speaker 2: the leader. And so that's why the Greatness was able

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Speaker 2: to achieve in that kind of way. Man. And then

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Speaker 2: also I just want to say, in addition to what

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Speaker 2: I was saying before, Garvey was definitely an anointed man,

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Speaker 2: a man with a certain kind of soul and a

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Speaker 2: certain kind of destiny that was divinely inspired to do

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Speaker 2: exactly what it has done. We wouldn't be here talking

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Speaker 2: about him right now if it.

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Speaker 3: Wasn't so so, Carl, if I made I want to

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Speaker 3: say this when I want Chief to also tell people

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Speaker 3: how they can connect with Molly, which is important. But

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Speaker 3: I got to say this about my brother, Chief full Day,

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Speaker 3: and this will give you all an example of what

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Speaker 3: he's talking about. I have trained many. First of all,

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Speaker 3: I was trained by the Honor, but Charles L. James

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Speaker 3: was trained by Marcus garby the Course of African Philosophy.

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Speaker 3: I served as President of General for eight years, but

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Speaker 3: I am an obedient servant. Out of many of the

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Speaker 3: people that I've trained that are in now the institute

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Speaker 3: that Professor David Horn is the chairperson of the Marcus

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01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:11,880
Speaker 3: Garvey Honor Society, and many people are familiar with doctor Horn.

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Speaker 3: He's also a student or the Course of African Philosopy,

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Speaker 3: show as the President of General, show as myself. But

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Speaker 3: out of all the people that I've trained, and many

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Speaker 3: people I've trained the Course of African Philosophy called Chief

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Speaker 3: Foe Day, who came from practicing Garviism through the Black

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Speaker 3: Star Action Network International, scored the highest of any of

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Speaker 3: my students and now that was years ago, but he

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Speaker 3: has risen now into leadership as he represents many groups

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Speaker 3: as a third Assistant President General. That'll give you an

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01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 3: example of how Chief fol Day is talking about reaching

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Speaker 3: young brothers and sisters like for example, Sam PK. Collins,

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Speaker 3: who's also a trend student in the course of African philosophy,

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Speaker 3: and many of us who have been trained carry out

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Speaker 3: the work. But Chief Oda is a perfect example. And

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Speaker 3: that's why I'm bringing on these airways so people can

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01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:15,920
Speaker 3: understand and be clear, it's in all of us. All

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01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:18,519
Speaker 3: of us got that elactricity within us. But when you

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Speaker 3: study and when I met Chief fo Day, he was

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Speaker 3: doing the work of Gobi before he even became a

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Speaker 3: member of the un IA, through not only the Black

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Speaker 3: Star Action Network in the National but through his GULA history.

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Speaker 3: But I say that so that people can understand. Once

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Speaker 3: you get the kind of things that Chief Foday is

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01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 3: talking about providing for you, it will help you better

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Speaker 3: understand your position in life, what you should be doing,

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01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:48,360
Speaker 3: because we've all been called to do something. And I

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Speaker 3: only use that as an example. And Chief O Day,

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Speaker 3: I know how you feel. I know you're a humble servant,

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01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 3: You and kend are doing great work. But I had

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01:15:57,160 --> 01:15:59,120
Speaker 3: to shout that out to brothers and assistants because they

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01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 3: need to understand. You grew up in a rough side

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Speaker 3: of town of the US and you've been through a lot,

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01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:11,479
Speaker 3: but look at where you are now, and anybody who

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01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:15,360
Speaker 3: aspires to find their true greatness can do it. I

1342
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:17,720
Speaker 3: too have a story to tell of how I came

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01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:22,240
Speaker 3: into Garvyism. I was practicing and didn't know Garviism existed.

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01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:24,919
Speaker 3: So all of y'all out there that got any England

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01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 3: of africanity in you that want to uplift you can

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01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:30,080
Speaker 3: be a part of the un I A and like

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01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:32,360
Speaker 3: I say, you can reach out to us. But also

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Speaker 3: before I turn it back over the chief, because I

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01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:36,200
Speaker 3: want him to make sure he lets people know how

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Speaker 3: they connect online with these courses that he's talking about.

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Speaker 3: On February to twenty eighth, I mentioned two giants, Peter

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01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:47,800
Speaker 3: Bailey and Macassa dot Rix. I'm gonna be honored and

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01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 3: everlasting life on February to twenty eight and it's gonna

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Speaker 3: be powerful. Also, I said on the twenty seventh, the

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Speaker 3: Freedom Friday, at eight pm EA Sin Standard time, everybody

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01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:06,120
Speaker 3: can go to Facebook the You and I division three thirty,

1357
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 3: or you can reach out to us. My number and

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01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:13,080
Speaker 3: contact is two O two two five six two five

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Speaker 3: one eight. My email is s E n G h

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Speaker 3: O G s E n G h O RB at

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Speaker 3: hotmail dot com and I will direct you. But there's

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01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:24,479
Speaker 3: many other programs going on and a Chief Old Day.

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Speaker 3: Please let people know how they can get in.

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Speaker 1: Right and hold up all right there, brother saying we

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01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:31,519
Speaker 1: gotta step aside and taking a look at the news.

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Speaker 1: I'll let you. Phot eight respondent and around from the

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Speaker 1: Atlanta area has a question for you brothers as well. Family.

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Speaker 1: You're just waking up, just joining us on this President's

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01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 1: Day is twenty three minutes away from the top of

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Speaker 1: the hour. Two gavey eyes brothers saying, go by eight

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Speaker 1: in Washington, DC. Chief phot Days checking in from Freetown

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Speaker 1: serially on so what are your thoughts? Reach out to

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Speaker 1: us at eight hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy

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Speaker 1: six and we'll take your phone calls after we check

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Speaker 1: the news. That's next, Anger and rising family, Thanks for

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01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 1: starting your week with us, and I guess the Cavey

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Speaker 1: Hees brother saying go by in Washington, DC, and also

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Speaker 1: Chief fo Da calling us from Freetown, Syria, Leone discussing

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Speaker 1: Goarfy Marcus Scott. Before we go back there, let me

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Speaker 1: just remind you. Coming up later this morning, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: speak with black politics expert doctor James Taylor. I know

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01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:14,679
Speaker 1: he wants to discuss the Epstein files. He also wants

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01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:17,960
Speaker 1: to break down stephen A. Smith's presidential ambitions and also

1384
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 1: talk about tomorrow's big race in Texas. Jasmine Crockett is

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Speaker 1: on the docket the senatorial primer, so he wants to

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Speaker 1: discuss those issues. So he'll be here later this morning

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Speaker 1: and late this week. You have natural paddic and traditional

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01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:31,280
Speaker 1: doctor doctor A will be with us. Also educator and

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Speaker 1: educator and author doctor Kemmick Shockley will also join us.

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Speaker 1: So if you are in Baltimore, make sure you got

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Speaker 1: your radio lockedam tight on ten ten WLB, or if

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Speaker 1: you're in the DMV area, we're on fourteen fifty WOL.

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Speaker 1: So I mentioned before we left for the news update,

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Speaker 1: Ralph was calling us from the Atlanta areas online four

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Speaker 1: Grand Rising, Ralph, you're on with brother saying go by

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Speaker 1: and Chief Foday.

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Speaker 8: Grand Row, You brothers are Brunette and I'm joining the show.

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Speaker 8: One question. We've been talking about our situation in this

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Speaker 8: world for a long time. It appears to me that

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Speaker 8: and I like your opinion that we should focus and

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01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:18,479
Speaker 8: take a critical look. And I know we've been doing it,

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01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:21,559
Speaker 8: but take a critical look at me? What are we

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Speaker 8: lacking to move past where we're what we've been talking

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01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:32,439
Speaker 8: about in our position, there's something that we're missing and

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01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:37,320
Speaker 8: we're not taking the critical analysis. And if we do

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Speaker 8: that and be honest with ourselves, I think we'll be

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Speaker 8: better off and move where we need to be as

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Speaker 8: a keeper.

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Speaker 1: That's all I have about Rob before we go, What

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01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:49,960
Speaker 1: do you think we're lacking? What do you think is missing?

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Speaker 8: Well, if we look at historically other people who came

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Speaker 8: to America, the Italians, the Irish, When we look at

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01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:06,320
Speaker 8: other people, they looked at what they needed to do

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Speaker 8: as a people coming in and get myself educated into

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Speaker 8: this system and finding out what's needed economically banking, and

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01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:23,800
Speaker 8: they sacrifice and discipline their young people and came up

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Speaker 8: like nearly nearly full of use to say, with a

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Speaker 8: code of behavior, a code of that came up with

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Speaker 8: a code to accomplish that this is what I think

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01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:42,679
Speaker 8: we're lacting. We needed to people look at what's needed

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01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 8: and focus on how young and focus on what we

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01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:51,160
Speaker 8: need to do and start doing that.

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Speaker 4: They look at all.

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Speaker 1: All right, thanks, Ralph. Let's get the brothers a chance

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Speaker 1: to respond.

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Speaker 3: Very good point, brother, really really to stand exactly where

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Speaker 3: you're coming from, brother, and yeah, we as African people

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01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:08,439
Speaker 3: need to focus more on family, more on educating family

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01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:11,640
Speaker 3: and not sending your children outside of the home to

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01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:14,720
Speaker 3: get educated. We have gotten away from that. And you

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Speaker 3: mentioned other examples, and that's exactly what others did. They

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Speaker 3: practiced nationalism, They practice family values, They practiced staying tight

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Speaker 3: with each other, building the economic network with each other.

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Speaker 3: And we got away from that. We got away from that.

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Speaker 3: We were hoodwink to think we were hoodwink to think

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Speaker 3: we could go outside of that and be successful, to

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Speaker 3: go get all of these so called degrees and all

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Speaker 3: this and go work for somebody else. That is not

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01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:42,879
Speaker 3: the way. You got to go back to the basics

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Speaker 3: of family. And you're absolutely correct, brother. If we get

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Speaker 3: that right, we can get everything else right.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely. Let me thinking back really real quick. Right. Also,

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Speaker 2: what you're saying about nationality having a sense of nationhood

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Speaker 2: and existing like that when the Chinese first and moves

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Speaker 2: to America, they know that they're Chinese national regardless of

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Speaker 2: where they're born at in the world. African nationality, what

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01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:12,759
Speaker 2: Garby promoted as universal African nationalism, you know, is exactly

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Speaker 2: what we need Africans abroad like like like Marcus Garby

1449
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 2: a Babay singles emphasizing as opposed to diaspoil. Lets us

1450
01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:25,360
Speaker 2: know that our biggest issue is being detached and disconnected

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01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:31,160
Speaker 2: structurally institutionally from our home. Africans around the world have

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01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:35,719
Speaker 2: to engage in structural reattachment with the African continent from

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01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:39,280
Speaker 2: all around the world. That's what we need to do.

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Speaker 2: That would culturally ground us in where we belong, where

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01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:48,080
Speaker 2: our home is at. Because right now, the biggest fight

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01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:50,280
Speaker 2: is that we're trying to make these foreign places home,

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01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:53,680
Speaker 2: these places that aren't home in our own, in our

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Speaker 2: own idea of ourselves Africa's home. Reconnecting to the African

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Speaker 2: continent from all around the world. You see the Caribbean

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Speaker 2: group nations are doing it right now. We see the

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Speaker 2: South American nations are doing it right now. Even those

1462
01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:11,040
Speaker 2: of us in North America, Canada and the United States

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01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:13,840
Speaker 2: are doing it right now. Those of us in the UK,

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Speaker 2: we are we are structurally and tangibly reconnecting ourselves to

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Speaker 2: the continents, some of us, and so I think there

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Speaker 2: has to be more of that. That has to be

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Speaker 2: something that, like tingor is saying, is done at the

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Speaker 2: family level. That family begin to plot and plan on

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Speaker 2: how they're going to structurally reconnect themselves with the continents.

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Speaker 2: What groups are out there that can help them to

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Speaker 2: do that, How can it be practical, how can it

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Speaker 2: be made affordable? What you know, how can we you know,

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Speaker 2: open this pathway to our future generations?

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Speaker 8: Now?

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01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:48,160
Speaker 2: Because it's that disconnect is the reason why we can't

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Speaker 2: collaborate as Africans globally. The Chinese are Chinese nationals that

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01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:56,840
Speaker 2: think globally and act locally. We have to be the same.

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Speaker 1: Greats's family first, right, brother, say, Guy's going to ask

1479
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:05,040
Speaker 1: you this question, because we've got two groups now, anti

1480
01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:07,519
Speaker 1: black groups or anti African groups are out there and

1481
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 1: telling people that they're that you know, they're not African,

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01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 1: they're something else, but they're not African. Uh, how do

1483
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:16,680
Speaker 1: you compete against us? And they've they're using probably the

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01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:19,200
Speaker 1: media and other ways, you know, to tell folks that

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Speaker 1: they're not African, some people follow them and believe them.

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01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:23,639
Speaker 1: How do how do you compete with with that sort

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01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:24,200
Speaker 1: of information?

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01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:28,519
Speaker 3: Because educates your children, Educate your youth. Educate your youth

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Speaker 3: for what race versus all about. Educate your youth because

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Speaker 3: all of that is a diversion. All of that is

1491
01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:36,000
Speaker 3: a destruction. All of that is a diversion away from

1492
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:39,479
Speaker 3: finding yourself. Because we rising they're coming up with all

1493
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:44,559
Speaker 3: kinds of ways cointail pro even ignorance to divide us.

1494
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:48,520
Speaker 3: And we need to be very careful about the divisiveness.

1495
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:52,360
Speaker 3: If you if you see someone trying to divide us,

1496
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 3: watch out for them. Be careful because they are representing

1497
01:24:57,560 --> 01:25:03,920
Speaker 3: a divisiveness, a danger her to the future of our development. Holistically,

1498
01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:07,479
Speaker 3: anybody that wants to divide us and want a debate,

1499
01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:08,880
Speaker 3: I don't debate with them, no more.

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01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:09,240
Speaker 4: I don't.

1501
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:11,320
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't, I don't argue with them. I

1502
01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:15,200
Speaker 3: stay away from them because they are dangerous. They are

1503
01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 3: a rugu energy, they are a virus.

1504
01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:24,559
Speaker 1: That's by other saying does do that? Does that indicate though, though,

1505
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:28,040
Speaker 1: that there's an awakening, taking and crossing, not just the

1506
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:31,360
Speaker 1: state side, but the entire content at the end, you know,

1507
01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:33,639
Speaker 1: a global awakening. And for black folks, it's just why

1508
01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:36,200
Speaker 1: we see these these other groups rising.

1509
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:37,679
Speaker 4: Up, call Caul.

1510
01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:41,360
Speaker 3: The very reason that Chump and all of these Urugus

1511
01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:44,880
Speaker 3: are doing what they doing today is because they understand

1512
01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:47,040
Speaker 3: that their time is up.

1513
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 4: Babylon is falling.

1514
01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:51,960
Speaker 3: And while it's falling, they're doing everything they can to

1515
01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:54,599
Speaker 3: keep us to hold it up. If we come out

1516
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:57,439
Speaker 3: from her, Minister far Con and many people that say

1517
01:25:57,560 --> 01:26:00,519
Speaker 3: come out from her, come out from her and do

1518
01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:04,160
Speaker 3: yours and and it will fall. And we need to rise,

1519
01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:06,400
Speaker 3: and we need to not just sit back. We need

1520
01:26:06,439 --> 01:26:10,160
Speaker 3: to build. We need to organize our own systems, our

1521
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 3: own go get back to the ancient Mahat, ancient Mbutu,

1522
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:17,360
Speaker 3: be your brother and sister's keeper, and get away from

1523
01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:20,160
Speaker 3: all that foolishness. If somebody's talking about something device, to

1524
01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 3: stay away from them. I'm telling you, because it's poison,

1525
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:25,960
Speaker 3: is a virus, it's dangerous.

1526
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 1: And a chief And do you have those kind of issues,

1527
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:32,400
Speaker 1: And serially on, don't you have people trying to divide

1528
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:33,880
Speaker 1: your folks who live there?

1529
01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:38,599
Speaker 2: Well, I mean you have you have the normal people

1530
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:41,720
Speaker 2: who are distracted. You know, there's a lot of religious

1531
01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:45,920
Speaker 2: divisions here, people trying to impart their uh you know,

1532
01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:50,040
Speaker 2: their religious nationalisms here. But no, you don't really have

1533
01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:55,599
Speaker 2: it to hostile here. You know, Africa is still colonized. Brother. Well,

1534
01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:58,960
Speaker 2: you know, the education that the people get is colonial education.

1535
01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:03,200
Speaker 2: Even now it's it's not this progressive African centered education

1536
01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:07,599
Speaker 2: that we're envisioning for our race. And so, you know,

1537
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:10,599
Speaker 2: the mis education is still the problem. The mental side

1538
01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:13,160
Speaker 2: is still the problem. We're still dealing with our people

1539
01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:19,160
Speaker 2: being brainwised by Eurocentric ideologies and religions. It's the core,

1540
01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:21,519
Speaker 2: it's the core of it. And this is really what

1541
01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:26,880
Speaker 2: market MSSA. Garvey was aiming at destroying through all of

1542
01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:31,840
Speaker 2: the theatricals, through all of the speaking and the championing

1543
01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:35,439
Speaker 2: of black nationalism, is to break that white nationalism that

1544
01:27:35,479 --> 01:27:37,880
Speaker 2: exists within the African people that was put there by

1545
01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 2: you Google. We have to be it has to be eradicated.

1546
01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:45,400
Speaker 2: It has to be removed from within the body of

1547
01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:47,880
Speaker 2: the people, not just the mind.

1548
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:49,840
Speaker 1: Is there, yeah, but chief lives let me ask you this,

1549
01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:52,519
Speaker 1: So how you compete with that message against the message

1550
01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 1: that's coming from the more degenerate parts of our community.

1551
01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:58,439
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the young for the young people, and

1552
01:27:58,479 --> 01:28:00,960
Speaker 1: they've seen all these with these young rappers are doing it,

1553
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:04,519
Speaker 1: who are behaving inappropriately on stage, on screen, and they

1554
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:06,880
Speaker 1: might want to try to emulate them like some of

1555
01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:08,639
Speaker 1: our young people try to do. How do you compete

1556
01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:08,880
Speaker 1: with that?

1557
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:11,720
Speaker 2: Yes, well, I think we have to attract more young

1558
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:14,479
Speaker 2: people to our ranks who are also engaged in those

1559
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:19,280
Speaker 2: youthful activities that in like that Bread did in the

1560
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:23,000
Speaker 2: early two thousands, use hip hop and use urban culture

1561
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:28,280
Speaker 2: and use modern vernacular and language to cross, you know,

1562
01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:31,000
Speaker 2: to cross the young generation like the Harlem Renaissance did.

1563
01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:33,040
Speaker 2: The same relationship that you and I A had with

1564
01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:36,040
Speaker 2: the Harlem Renaissance, we have to have with global black

1565
01:28:36,040 --> 01:28:38,960
Speaker 2: culture today, global black celebrities today.

1566
01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:42,600
Speaker 3: And let me let me a call. I say it

1567
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:46,640
Speaker 3: all the time. Music is a universal language. That is

1568
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:50,400
Speaker 3: one of the first areas that they attacked us on propaganda.

1569
01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:54,759
Speaker 3: Godby said, be careful of their propaganda and create your own.

1570
01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:59,000
Speaker 3: So we have to we have to battle that with positivity. Fortunately,

1571
01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:01,479
Speaker 3: we have a lot of artist that are doing that.

1572
01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:04,479
Speaker 3: I'm an artist myself, I'm a poet, Chief. Foda was

1573
01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:06,559
Speaker 3: an artist itself. He was in the hip hop so

1574
01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:09,400
Speaker 3: we've been there, we know that. But that is where

1575
01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:14,800
Speaker 3: they get us. Hollyweed and the wrecking industry, Hollywood in

1576
01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:18,920
Speaker 3: the record industry are two of the most dangerous propagandas

1577
01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:21,840
Speaker 3: to take us away from who we are. So we

1578
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:24,280
Speaker 3: need to get away from that and get back to

1579
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:29,040
Speaker 3: our culture, our artistic expression. And there are many examples

1580
01:29:29,240 --> 01:29:34,719
Speaker 3: of people doing just that. So the battle is God

1581
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:39,000
Speaker 3: be made it clear. When they come at you with laughter,

1582
01:29:39,439 --> 01:29:43,639
Speaker 3: return the laughter and put positive up against the negative.

1583
01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:46,400
Speaker 3: That will always outweigh. And we don't have to go

1584
01:29:46,479 --> 01:29:48,840
Speaker 3: through the wrecking industry. We don't have to go through hollyweed.

1585
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:51,519
Speaker 3: If you're gonna use AI, use it from a positive

1586
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:54,559
Speaker 3: perspective because you know the negative is coming. If you're

1587
01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:59,280
Speaker 3: gonna make music and get expire into artists, don't get

1588
01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:03,760
Speaker 3: into the the down quession of women, the attack of

1589
01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:07,559
Speaker 3: each other, the falsehood of us fighting one another, all

1590
01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:10,439
Speaker 3: that fake stuff, man, All that's design to take you

1591
01:30:10,479 --> 01:30:14,880
Speaker 3: away from the great gift of artistic expression. So we

1592
01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:17,080
Speaker 3: need to park Goby was a poet.

1593
01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:19,640
Speaker 1: And hold up thought right there, brother saying God, I

1594
01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:21,080
Speaker 1: let you finish your thought on the other side and

1595
01:30:21,080 --> 01:30:23,599
Speaker 1: tell us about Goffy being a poet. Family, you two

1596
01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:25,800
Speaker 1: can get in in our conversation with brother saying god

1597
01:30:25,800 --> 01:30:28,439
Speaker 1: By A just heard us in Washington, DC. Chief Photo

1598
01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:30,000
Speaker 1: is also on the line with us. He's calling from

1599
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:31,000
Speaker 1: Freetown in Syria.

1600
01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:31,280
Speaker 2: One.

1601
01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:33,160
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts? You want to reach them? Hit

1602
01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:35,719
Speaker 1: us up at eight hundred four or five zero seventy

1603
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:37,880
Speaker 1: eight seventy six and we'll take you phone calls after

1604
01:30:37,880 --> 01:30:39,760
Speaker 1: we check the traffic and weather and then news and

1605
01:30:39,800 --> 01:30:42,920
Speaker 1: then some of our cities next and Grand Rising family,

1606
01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:44,760
Speaker 1: thanks for starting your week with us. At two after

1607
01:30:44,760 --> 01:30:46,120
Speaker 1: the top of there, I'm Momenta teyor we're going to

1608
01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:49,360
Speaker 1: speak with doctor James Taylor, but right now with Sengo

1609
01:30:49,439 --> 01:30:53,160
Speaker 1: bay A Garvey I and also we're with a brother

1610
01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:57,040
Speaker 1: Chief Foe Da calling us from Serial leone and brother

1611
01:30:57,120 --> 01:30:59,519
Speaker 1: brother Sango. I'm let you finish your finish your thought

1612
01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:01,160
Speaker 1: because you were tell us that Goby was a poet.

1613
01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:02,360
Speaker 1: Can you explain that?

1614
01:31:02,479 --> 01:31:05,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just wanted to say that Godby taught us

1615
01:31:05,680 --> 01:31:08,639
Speaker 3: that when they come at you with their propaganda through

1616
01:31:08,720 --> 01:31:12,680
Speaker 3: music or whatever, we need to create our own propaganda

1617
01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:15,360
Speaker 3: to counter that. That is part of the course of

1618
01:31:15,360 --> 01:31:18,840
Speaker 3: African philosophy that Goby had taught us that when we

1619
01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:22,960
Speaker 3: got to also be very clear that they will do

1620
01:31:23,080 --> 01:31:25,839
Speaker 3: anything they can to keep us off course with finding

1621
01:31:25,880 --> 01:31:29,360
Speaker 3: out who we are, finding out our great history and

1622
01:31:29,439 --> 01:31:33,479
Speaker 3: how great we can be without them. So music is

1623
01:31:33,520 --> 01:31:37,280
Speaker 3: a way that they attack us. Hollywood through creating falsehood

1624
01:31:37,320 --> 01:31:40,360
Speaker 3: in film is how they attack us. And when we

1625
01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:43,320
Speaker 3: look at that, we started emulating that, we look at

1626
01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:46,320
Speaker 3: video games, et cetera, et cetera. That's why I mentioned

1627
01:31:46,360 --> 01:31:50,960
Speaker 3: AI because trust me, AI can be really used positive

1628
01:31:51,360 --> 01:31:55,000
Speaker 3: or can be used negative. And Godby taught us always

1629
01:31:55,120 --> 01:31:58,680
Speaker 3: accentuate to the positives to counter what they're doing. So

1630
01:31:58,760 --> 01:32:02,880
Speaker 3: Garby was a poet. Garby had played plays, written all

1631
01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:05,120
Speaker 3: kinds of things. He did all kinds of things to

1632
01:32:05,280 --> 01:32:08,439
Speaker 3: bring us into the positive form and to use art

1633
01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:11,320
Speaker 3: the way it's supposed to be used to uplift humanity

1634
01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:13,160
Speaker 3: and not downgrade humanity.

1635
01:32:13,880 --> 01:32:15,680
Speaker 1: All right. Three, Off the top of that, we have

1636
01:32:15,720 --> 01:32:18,000
Speaker 1: a single by a Washington, DC and Chief Photos and

1637
01:32:18,080 --> 01:32:21,320
Speaker 1: Siri Leone and Mark is joining in the conversation East

1638
01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:26,639
Speaker 1: Online four color from Baltimore, Mark grand Rising, Hey.

1639
01:32:26,520 --> 01:32:32,800
Speaker 9: Grand Rising guys, great conversation, and I just wanted, you know,

1640
01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:36,920
Speaker 9: I just wanted to have and ask the question. You know, you,

1641
01:32:37,000 --> 01:32:38,800
Speaker 9: I agree with you one hundred percent. He was talking

1642
01:32:38,800 --> 01:32:41,000
Speaker 9: about the music and all that kind of stuff, but

1643
01:32:41,360 --> 01:32:45,439
Speaker 9: also Malcolms said that when we shouldn't be killing each other,

1644
01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:48,439
Speaker 9: and Martin Luther King's paid that you never looked down

1645
01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:52,320
Speaker 9: on the man unless you helping them up. But Malcolm's

1646
01:32:52,320 --> 01:32:55,519
Speaker 9: father was a Garvin Knight and can you imagine back

1647
01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:59,800
Speaker 9: in the in the racist South, preaching that kind of

1648
01:32:59,840 --> 01:33:03,400
Speaker 9: thing in the forties and fifties, and they killed him,

1649
01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:07,400
Speaker 9: made it look like suicide. And that that's his mother

1650
01:33:08,560 --> 01:33:12,200
Speaker 9: to crazy because she couldn't get the money. That broke

1651
01:33:12,280 --> 01:33:14,879
Speaker 9: Malcolm in them up, so he was sent to Boston.

1652
01:33:14,960 --> 01:33:18,640
Speaker 9: That started his journey to becoming who he was.

1653
01:33:19,040 --> 01:33:21,280
Speaker 2: Did you guys know that? Yes?

1654
01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:24,519
Speaker 3: Absolutely great story. Yes, all right, thank you. Yeah, I

1655
01:33:24,640 --> 01:33:28,080
Speaker 3: just wanted to bring that Malcolm's mother and father actually

1656
01:33:28,160 --> 01:33:33,240
Speaker 3: Howe's Garby, They knew Garvey they would actually there, So yeah,

1657
01:33:33,240 --> 01:33:35,960
Speaker 3: you're absolutely on point, bro, And not only that Chief

1658
01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:40,200
Speaker 3: Foe they worked with Malcolm X's grandson, Chief Foe, they

1659
01:33:40,240 --> 01:33:43,200
Speaker 3: actually worked with him.

1660
01:33:43,360 --> 01:33:46,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, absolutely, absolutely there's a connection to it all

1661
01:33:47,520 --> 01:33:49,920
Speaker 2: and and you're right, it all goes back to the

1662
01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:52,479
Speaker 2: to the U n I A and the leadership of

1663
01:33:52,520 --> 01:33:56,040
Speaker 2: Marcus Messiah Garvey. A lot of times people think we're worshiping,

1664
01:33:56,200 --> 01:33:59,400
Speaker 2: upholding the man as a person, but we're just saying

1665
01:33:59,439 --> 01:34:02,240
Speaker 2: that his leader took us to a higher level of

1666
01:34:02,240 --> 01:34:05,840
Speaker 2: consciousness and movement building to the highest level that we've

1667
01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:10,320
Speaker 2: been able to do globally in the last centuries that

1668
01:34:10,360 --> 01:34:12,920
Speaker 2: we know, or maybe even ever. And we have to

1669
01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:17,000
Speaker 2: give homage where it's due. Garby has something that other

1670
01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:20,360
Speaker 2: people desire but they did not have, and he was

1671
01:34:20,400 --> 01:34:24,080
Speaker 2: the envy of all intellectuals, the envy of all artists.

1672
01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:27,040
Speaker 2: Everybody wanted to be Garby. Garby was the soul of

1673
01:34:27,080 --> 01:34:32,760
Speaker 2: the Harlem Renaissance. And so yeah, absolutely we have to

1674
01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:37,040
Speaker 2: seize the opportunity to use music and anything. We have

1675
01:34:37,680 --> 01:34:41,720
Speaker 2: to protect the message of African fundamentalism that we are

1676
01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:46,640
Speaker 2: all Africans fundamentally, that is our identity. The rest is secondary.

1677
01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:50,400
Speaker 2: And so a way that person can reach out and

1678
01:34:50,439 --> 01:34:54,120
Speaker 2: get connected to the Mosiah Academy Leadership Institute, it is

1679
01:34:54,160 --> 01:35:00,960
Speaker 2: to our Patreon, Patreon, dot com, forward slash Mosa Academy.

1680
01:35:01,360 --> 01:35:06,320
Speaker 2: That's p A t R e O N dot com

1681
01:35:06,920 --> 01:35:11,680
Speaker 2: forward slash m O s I h A c A

1682
01:35:11,960 --> 01:35:20,439
Speaker 2: d e m Y Academy. Right, So that's how y'all

1683
01:35:20,439 --> 01:35:24,479
Speaker 2: can get connected to the school. We'll be putting something

1684
01:35:24,520 --> 01:35:30,320
Speaker 2: out our first lessons on on March first. But it's

1685
01:35:30,360 --> 01:35:35,360
Speaker 2: a subscription base opportunity you have. We have tiers you

1686
01:35:35,400 --> 01:35:39,360
Speaker 2: can enter as as a low level subscriber, a mid

1687
01:35:39,439 --> 01:35:43,000
Speaker 2: level subscriber, or a high level subscriber. But I will

1688
01:35:43,040 --> 01:35:48,599
Speaker 2: be personally myself, my Empress, my Queen, King of Lincoln.

1689
01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:51,360
Speaker 2: That's the way by Boxing and Go and other Garbyait

1690
01:35:51,560 --> 01:35:55,200
Speaker 2: will actively be engaging in this educational experience as well.

1691
01:35:55,320 --> 01:35:58,200
Speaker 2: So it's coming from the most credible source on the

1692
01:35:58,240 --> 01:36:01,120
Speaker 2: earth directly to the people and.

1693
01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:05,920
Speaker 3: Also you know beyond. On the twenty seventh of this month, Friday,

1694
01:36:05,920 --> 01:36:08,200
Speaker 3: the Freedom Friday, Chief will be on and he'll talk

1695
01:36:08,240 --> 01:36:12,040
Speaker 3: more about the most that So I just want people

1696
01:36:12,080 --> 01:36:16,000
Speaker 3: to tune into that, stay in tune with us, as

1697
01:36:16,040 --> 01:36:18,160
Speaker 3: I say, you can reach out to either one of us,

1698
01:36:18,760 --> 01:36:21,479
Speaker 3: but Chief will be with us on the twenty seventh

1699
01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:23,479
Speaker 3: and we'll be talking about that because we see that

1700
01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:26,599
Speaker 3: as extremely important our youth are the truth. They're not

1701
01:36:26,680 --> 01:36:28,240
Speaker 3: just our future, they are the present.

1702
01:36:31,120 --> 01:36:33,559
Speaker 1: And let me ask you this a Chief Foday, when

1703
01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:36,640
Speaker 1: you talk to the young man in Serial leone, the

1704
01:36:36,640 --> 01:36:39,360
Speaker 1: young brothers and sisters there have any receptive of what

1705
01:36:39,400 --> 01:36:41,280
Speaker 1: you're hearing when you're discussing Marcus.

1706
01:36:40,920 --> 01:36:46,760
Speaker 2: Gove, absolutely brother like what Singo was saying. I know

1707
01:36:46,840 --> 01:36:49,559
Speaker 2: people may come on this pokemon often with titles and

1708
01:36:49,600 --> 01:36:53,840
Speaker 2: things like that, but as for me, I do serve

1709
01:36:53,880 --> 01:36:57,080
Speaker 2: as the director of international Affairs for the Rock and

1710
01:36:57,160 --> 01:36:59,960
Speaker 2: Fire our Council. We have tens of thousands of members

1711
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:04,000
Speaker 2: Roster Farrians within the Freetown capital city alone, not including

1712
01:37:04,040 --> 01:37:06,479
Speaker 2: the rest of the country. So it's a high It's

1713
01:37:06,479 --> 01:37:10,920
Speaker 2: an administrative position in which these people know the connection

1714
01:37:11,000 --> 01:37:15,760
Speaker 2: between Garvianism and Garvey and Rosterfarianism, and a lot of

1715
01:37:15,800 --> 01:37:19,720
Speaker 2: them went through Garyism to get to reach Rosterfarianism themselves

1716
01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:23,000
Speaker 2: and they blended together. So if you see a roster here,

1717
01:37:23,400 --> 01:37:27,559
Speaker 2: technically either garbyait at heart and so and that's the

1718
01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:29,720
Speaker 2: way it was actually designed. When you go back and

1719
01:37:29,800 --> 01:37:32,280
Speaker 2: you realize that the person who they credit to be

1720
01:37:32,360 --> 01:37:35,880
Speaker 2: the first garvyait was the first roster Farrian was actually

1721
01:37:35,920 --> 01:37:37,640
Speaker 2: a Garbyaite who was a member of the un I

1722
01:37:37,720 --> 01:37:41,519
Speaker 2: A who was deported, like Garvey back to Jamaica and

1723
01:37:41,560 --> 01:37:45,040
Speaker 2: started the movement there, and that there was other people

1724
01:37:45,120 --> 01:37:47,439
Speaker 2: around the world who also contributed to the development of

1725
01:37:47,479 --> 01:37:51,479
Speaker 2: Rasafarrianism is really rooted in the applicant rebellion and resistance

1726
01:37:51,479 --> 01:37:54,639
Speaker 2: in the Caribbeans and in North America. Has nothing really

1727
01:37:54,680 --> 01:37:58,920
Speaker 2: to do with Ethiopia itself, but you really understand what

1728
01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:01,640
Speaker 2: it is and what it ain't. It's like, Wow, the

1729
01:38:01,720 --> 01:38:04,920
Speaker 2: people here really get it. I don't have a problem

1730
01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:09,240
Speaker 2: teaching exactly how I teach now here, and people are

1731
01:38:09,360 --> 01:38:11,640
Speaker 2: very very receptive to get in the truth in a

1732
01:38:11,720 --> 01:38:14,680
Speaker 2: way that they never heard it here, Very very receptive.

1733
01:38:15,439 --> 01:38:16,840
Speaker 1: He fell us stay with us for a minute. They

1734
01:38:16,840 --> 01:38:19,240
Speaker 1: were were trying to hook up with doctor Taylor. Ten

1735
01:38:19,280 --> 01:38:21,160
Speaker 1: after the top of their family just joined us. I

1736
01:38:21,200 --> 01:38:22,880
Speaker 1: guess it's Chief four. The age just heard him. He's

1737
01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:25,519
Speaker 1: calling from Freetown and syrial Leone also Brother sing go

1738
01:38:25,640 --> 01:38:28,880
Speaker 1: by A's in Washington, d C. The Govey Heights discussing Garvey.

1739
01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:31,840
Speaker 1: We started off having a discussion about what Govey and

1740
01:38:32,439 --> 01:38:35,439
Speaker 1: Black History Month and what Carter G. Woodson's relevance to

1741
01:38:35,760 --> 01:38:39,000
Speaker 1: Marcus Govey. So for the late folks at brother Sing,

1742
01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:42,120
Speaker 1: can you connect those dots for us to Mark Scarvey

1743
01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:44,240
Speaker 1: and doctor Carter G Woodson.

1744
01:38:44,880 --> 01:38:48,679
Speaker 3: Yes, Tony mart made it very clear Carter G. Woodson see,

1745
01:38:48,760 --> 01:38:52,680
Speaker 3: unlike WB the boys, CARTERGI Woodson straddled defense. He did

1746
01:38:52,720 --> 01:38:54,479
Speaker 3: not get caught up in a lot of the stuff

1747
01:38:54,520 --> 01:38:57,080
Speaker 3: the boys got caught up in. In the early years,

1748
01:38:57,439 --> 01:39:02,400
Speaker 3: carterage Woodson was practicing clear as I said, the book

1749
01:39:03,160 --> 01:39:06,639
Speaker 3: that most people familiar with doctor carg Woodson with The

1750
01:39:06,640 --> 01:39:10,400
Speaker 3: Miseducation of the Negro before it was published in book

1751
01:39:10,439 --> 01:39:16,160
Speaker 3: form in the thirties. It was published in the Negro

1752
01:39:16,280 --> 01:39:23,320
Speaker 3: World newspaper verbatim. The connection. Garvey saw the connection of

1753
01:39:23,360 --> 01:39:27,960
Speaker 3: what Widson was doing with creating the education or the

1754
01:39:28,000 --> 01:39:33,800
Speaker 3: re education of African people. If you read the court,

1755
01:39:34,320 --> 01:39:37,760
Speaker 3: if you read carefully The Miseducation of the Negro, and

1756
01:39:37,800 --> 01:39:39,920
Speaker 3: you look in the back of the book at the

1757
01:39:40,040 --> 01:39:44,960
Speaker 3: very end, you will see the connection. So everybody during

1758
01:39:45,000 --> 01:39:49,240
Speaker 3: their years of the nineteen thirties or the nineteen twenties

1759
01:39:50,200 --> 01:39:53,360
Speaker 3: may have been pargnicing Garbyism, but not publicly saying it

1760
01:39:53,439 --> 01:39:57,040
Speaker 3: was Garbyism because Garbyism didn't come into existence until after

1761
01:39:57,080 --> 01:40:02,400
Speaker 3: Garby died. The name Garbyism was actually practicing uplifting African people,

1762
01:40:03,040 --> 01:40:07,080
Speaker 3: and so many people actually have started in Chicago. The

1763
01:40:07,120 --> 01:40:09,360
Speaker 3: works of Witson started in Chicago, and then it came

1764
01:40:09,439 --> 01:40:13,719
Speaker 3: fast forward it over the here. My mother, my mother,

1765
01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:19,440
Speaker 3: my blood loving mother. As a student at Howard University

1766
01:40:19,479 --> 01:40:24,000
Speaker 3: for three months work is a volunteer secretary with doctor

1767
01:40:24,040 --> 01:40:28,080
Speaker 3: Cottage Woodson. She told me stories about Witson. To man,

1768
01:40:28,080 --> 01:40:32,759
Speaker 3: Wison wasn't very angry historian, he was angry at us.

1769
01:40:32,880 --> 01:40:35,360
Speaker 3: He was married to his work, not never got married,

1770
01:40:35,400 --> 01:40:39,800
Speaker 3: married to his work. But Woodson, like Garvey, was doing

1771
01:40:39,840 --> 01:40:43,799
Speaker 3: everything they could to get us to see how powerful

1772
01:40:43,840 --> 01:40:49,160
Speaker 3: we could be knowing our history, heritage, and culture. Garvey

1773
01:40:49,760 --> 01:40:53,839
Speaker 3: and Woodson may not have come in direct physical contact

1774
01:40:53,840 --> 01:40:58,639
Speaker 3: with each other, but their works were enjoined with each

1775
01:40:58,720 --> 01:41:01,000
Speaker 3: other during that time period. If you have to understand,

1776
01:41:01,880 --> 01:41:07,240
Speaker 3: we've been miseducated Cartage which were talking about educating us,

1777
01:41:07,320 --> 01:41:10,920
Speaker 3: just like later on doctor Chancellor Williams who wrote the

1778
01:41:10,960 --> 01:41:16,880
Speaker 3: Destruction of African Civilization. Nom Nea zek Way who came

1779
01:41:16,960 --> 01:41:23,120
Speaker 3: here to Powart, North America, Kwamea and Krumer who came

1780
01:41:23,160 --> 01:41:26,760
Speaker 3: here all was inspired by Garvey. Martin Luther King was

1781
01:41:26,800 --> 01:41:29,400
Speaker 3: inspired by Garby. Of course, Malcolm was at Garby Heite.

1782
01:41:29,800 --> 01:41:32,800
Speaker 3: I talked to Malcolm's daughters who made it clear I've

1783
01:41:32,840 --> 01:41:36,519
Speaker 3: talked to him specifically about how their family were Garby Heites.

1784
01:41:37,000 --> 01:41:42,160
Speaker 3: Minister Farkhan has said clearly at a UNI convention that

1785
01:41:42,200 --> 01:41:45,879
Speaker 3: I was at in eighty six that Arnoble Elijah Muhammad

1786
01:41:45,880 --> 01:41:49,400
Speaker 3: was his father and Garvey was his grandfather. What is

1787
01:41:49,439 --> 01:41:53,040
Speaker 3: he saying, Well, you know he had Caribbean roots. So

1788
01:41:53,120 --> 01:41:57,519
Speaker 3: what he's saying is there's no disconnection. So we need

1789
01:41:57,560 --> 01:42:01,000
Speaker 3: to understand the roster of far right movement, Nation of Islam,

1790
01:42:01,240 --> 01:42:04,840
Speaker 3: the Morris Science Temple, all of these different groups are

1791
01:42:04,960 --> 01:42:10,000
Speaker 3: aspects of Garvyism, but especially rostera far rid because as

1792
01:42:10,080 --> 01:42:13,680
Speaker 3: Chief mentioned, Lennar P. Howe with a Garvy height and

1793
01:42:13,720 --> 01:42:16,280
Speaker 3: so a lot of people look at the divisiveness and

1794
01:42:16,320 --> 01:42:19,720
Speaker 3: don't look at the connectedness. Yeah, we had differences, We

1795
01:42:19,800 --> 01:42:23,000
Speaker 3: got differences today, man, Chief, Oh they have differences, but

1796
01:42:23,080 --> 01:42:25,680
Speaker 3: we got more in common. Why should we fight over

1797
01:42:25,720 --> 01:42:27,600
Speaker 3: our differences when we got more in common and we

1798
01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:29,400
Speaker 3: got to work and build what we have in common.

1799
01:42:29,560 --> 01:42:32,760
Speaker 3: So brothers and just need to understand. You know, you

1800
01:42:32,840 --> 01:42:37,439
Speaker 3: gotta be You got to listen to other people's viewpoints

1801
01:42:38,040 --> 01:42:41,320
Speaker 3: and hammer out your differences on the amble of reason

1802
01:42:42,080 --> 01:42:45,040
Speaker 3: and not fight over them. We spend too much time,

1803
01:42:46,120 --> 01:42:50,519
Speaker 3: according the individual arugulism, fighting each other rather than working

1804
01:42:50,520 --> 01:42:53,360
Speaker 3: and building with each other. So help build your sister

1805
01:42:53,479 --> 01:42:57,240
Speaker 3: and brotherhood and not tear it down. That's part of

1806
01:42:57,280 --> 01:43:00,599
Speaker 3: the plan of Urugu to keep us fighting, want another,

1807
01:43:01,880 --> 01:43:04,920
Speaker 3: keep us divided. So we don't got no power. If

1808
01:43:04,920 --> 01:43:07,200
Speaker 3: we collectively come together, we got power.

1809
01:43:07,400 --> 01:43:11,599
Speaker 1: But anywhere, yeah, hold up the right there, brother, brother

1810
01:43:11,680 --> 01:43:14,839
Speaker 1: singles in Washington see Chief phodes in serially on freetown,

1811
01:43:14,920 --> 01:43:18,519
Speaker 1: serially on disgusting Marcus Govey and his connection to Cottage

1812
01:43:18,520 --> 01:43:21,000
Speaker 1: g Woodson. Craig has called us from Washington, DC. Wants

1813
01:43:21,040 --> 01:43:23,760
Speaker 1: you speak to you, fellas is online four Grand rising Craig.

1814
01:43:23,800 --> 01:43:25,759
Speaker 1: You're on with Brother Sanor and Chief Fode.

1815
01:43:27,240 --> 01:43:29,479
Speaker 10: It's same thing to you, Brother Caul. First of all

1816
01:43:30,040 --> 01:43:32,559
Speaker 10: these brothers speaking so much truth to power. Man, it's

1817
01:43:32,640 --> 01:43:35,559
Speaker 10: just just making my hand spend. The problem with our

1818
01:43:35,640 --> 01:43:37,759
Speaker 10: people right now is we got to break that addition

1819
01:43:37,840 --> 01:43:39,920
Speaker 10: to white people, because a lot of people that are

1820
01:43:39,960 --> 01:43:43,000
Speaker 10: buried to white people and that we should you know,

1821
01:43:43,160 --> 01:43:46,280
Speaker 10: common sense unified. But because a lot of them are

1822
01:43:46,520 --> 01:43:48,960
Speaker 10: you know, they act like they can't do anything unless

1823
01:43:48,960 --> 01:43:51,880
Speaker 10: white people are involved, and that was anything that black

1824
01:43:51,920 --> 01:43:54,479
Speaker 10: people do. Right now, it's like you gotta have that

1825
01:43:54,520 --> 01:43:57,400
Speaker 10: white saver to be with us. Like right now, they

1826
01:43:57,400 --> 01:43:59,960
Speaker 10: said that, you know, it's not a black and white

1827
01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:02,719
Speaker 10: issue as a class issue, and to me, it's always

1828
01:44:02,760 --> 01:44:04,880
Speaker 10: going to be about a black and white issue because

1829
01:44:04,960 --> 01:44:07,200
Speaker 10: white people always feel like they did all the rulers

1830
01:44:07,200 --> 01:44:08,320
Speaker 10: over colored people.

1831
01:44:08,760 --> 01:44:13,519
Speaker 3: But yeah, you know you.

1832
01:44:14,240 --> 01:44:14,719
Speaker 1: Lost, Craig.

1833
01:44:15,640 --> 01:44:17,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, but we on it, Craig, You're right on it.

1834
01:44:17,680 --> 01:44:20,439
Speaker 3: Brother. We need to be very clear race first. Man,

1835
01:44:20,760 --> 01:44:23,120
Speaker 3: we ain't talking about we hate nobody but but but

1836
01:44:22,880 --> 01:44:25,479
Speaker 3: but we ain't we talking about loving ourselves. We're talking

1837
01:44:25,479 --> 01:44:31,599
Speaker 3: about practicing race rict what people do keep right, Yeah, that's.

1838
01:44:31,520 --> 01:44:35,160
Speaker 2: Right, absolutely, And you know we are we are the

1839
01:44:35,240 --> 01:44:40,720
Speaker 2: students of Marcus MOSSA. Garvey and not only uh, just admirers,

1840
01:44:40,720 --> 01:44:44,560
Speaker 2: but we study its policies and it's ideals as analysis.

1841
01:44:44,600 --> 01:44:47,240
Speaker 2: And you know, back one hundred years ago, the U

1842
01:44:47,280 --> 01:44:49,920
Speaker 2: n I A and garbyas had to deal with UH

1843
01:44:50,040 --> 01:44:53,559
Speaker 2: socialists and communists who were seeking to put class first,

1844
01:44:54,200 --> 01:44:57,960
Speaker 2: and and we had to go through that struggle. We

1845
01:44:58,040 --> 01:45:01,879
Speaker 2: had to go through that struggle with with the African

1846
01:45:01,880 --> 01:45:04,840
Speaker 2: Blood Brotherhood. We had those who want to come and

1847
01:45:04,840 --> 01:45:08,040
Speaker 2: put religion first. We had to go through that struggle

1848
01:45:08,080 --> 01:45:09,760
Speaker 2: with the more science brothers and.

1849
01:45:11,240 --> 01:45:13,559
Speaker 1: The hold I thought right that Chief Foe Day because

1850
01:45:13,560 --> 01:45:15,160
Speaker 1: that's an issue too. Hold I thought right that we

1851
01:45:15,280 --> 01:45:17,080
Speaker 1: gotta step ausud for a few moments. The family just

1852
01:45:17,120 --> 01:45:18,800
Speaker 1: if just joined us, and we've got Chief fo Day

1853
01:45:19,120 --> 01:45:22,400
Speaker 1: checking in from free Town is serially on. And also

1854
01:45:22,400 --> 01:45:25,160
Speaker 1: brother sang go By, they both gave ees and we'll

1855
01:45:25,240 --> 01:45:27,919
Speaker 1: come back. I want both your addressed issue of religion.

1856
01:45:28,040 --> 01:45:31,280
Speaker 1: What role in religion play? Is religion helping us? Is

1857
01:45:31,320 --> 01:45:36,000
Speaker 1: a dificive Govies? How did Marcus Goviy deal with religion? Family?

1858
01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:37,880
Speaker 1: You two can get in on this conversation with to

1859
01:45:37,920 --> 01:45:41,200
Speaker 1: our brothers and to our smarter brothers Garvies, as I mentioned,

1860
01:45:41,320 --> 01:45:43,160
Speaker 1: you can reach them at eight hundred four or five

1861
01:45:43,280 --> 01:45:46,320
Speaker 1: zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll take your phone

1862
01:45:46,320 --> 01:45:47,719
Speaker 1: calls next Hey.

1863
01:45:47,520 --> 01:45:50,840
Speaker 3: Because we're won. You have a right to practice as

1864
01:45:50,880 --> 01:45:53,760
Speaker 3: Malcolm taught us you can practice your religion however you want,

1865
01:45:53,960 --> 01:45:56,280
Speaker 3: but don't beat your brother and your sister over the

1866
01:45:56,320 --> 01:45:58,760
Speaker 3: head with how you come into the light, because they

1867
01:45:58,840 --> 01:46:01,519
Speaker 3: might come into the light of the I'm a practicing

1868
01:46:01,600 --> 01:46:05,519
Speaker 3: spiritual belief and we love all of our brothers and sisters.

1869
01:46:05,520 --> 01:46:08,200
Speaker 3: But we're coming from an African centered perspective with it.

1870
01:46:08,479 --> 01:46:11,280
Speaker 3: We're not coming from a divisive perspective of you gotta

1871
01:46:11,360 --> 01:46:14,680
Speaker 3: do this. We know that we see our creator in

1872
01:46:14,680 --> 01:46:16,760
Speaker 3: our own spectacles, right.

1873
01:46:16,800 --> 01:46:19,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know because I want to get

1874
01:46:19,080 --> 01:46:20,479
Speaker 1: because we've got to act to tail on deck and

1875
01:46:20,479 --> 01:46:21,040
Speaker 1: I want to get to.

1876
01:46:23,800 --> 01:46:27,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, man. So I just want to in response,

1877
01:46:27,960 --> 01:46:31,519
Speaker 2: I just want to complete the statement of Marcus Mossaiah

1878
01:46:31,560 --> 01:46:35,439
Speaker 2: Garvey that you started by by some gord what says,

1879
01:46:35,960 --> 01:46:40,120
Speaker 2: let no religious truples, no political messinations divide us, but

1880
01:46:40,280 --> 01:46:45,839
Speaker 2: let us hold together under all climats and in every country,

1881
01:46:46,320 --> 01:46:52,000
Speaker 2: making among us, making among ourselves a racial empire upon

1882
01:46:52,160 --> 01:46:56,479
Speaker 2: which the sun shall never set. That's the full statement.

1883
01:46:57,760 --> 01:46:59,800
Speaker 2: Fire first, race first.

1884
01:47:02,200 --> 01:47:04,719
Speaker 1: Got you all right, brothers, before we let you go though,

1885
01:47:05,160 --> 01:47:07,400
Speaker 1: Uh Chief four day, how can we reach you? And

1886
01:47:07,439 --> 01:47:10,200
Speaker 1: brother sing, how can I reach you as well, Chief

1887
01:47:10,200 --> 01:47:12,679
Speaker 1: four day first yeah, man.

1888
01:47:12,800 --> 01:47:14,760
Speaker 2: So I can be. I can be reached I'm on

1889
01:47:14,800 --> 01:47:19,400
Speaker 2: Facebook under Mansa fol Day Jammu or all or all

1890
01:47:19,439 --> 01:47:24,040
Speaker 2: social media I G TikTok I'm under that name. Also,

1891
01:47:24,160 --> 01:47:28,360
Speaker 2: I can be emailed at gula g U l l

1892
01:47:28,439 --> 01:47:32,240
Speaker 2: A h g c h I E s A jammu

1893
01:47:32,520 --> 01:47:36,599
Speaker 2: A j A M you at gmail dot com directly

1894
01:47:36,960 --> 01:47:37,559
Speaker 2: thank you.

1895
01:47:39,000 --> 01:47:40,760
Speaker 3: And I can be. I can be reached on on

1896
01:47:40,960 --> 01:47:45,920
Speaker 3: Facebook as single Jawara Baya or single by a UH

1897
01:47:45,920 --> 01:47:49,360
Speaker 3: and all social media and also black Star line nine.

1898
01:47:50,360 --> 01:47:50,719
Speaker 11: UH.

1899
01:47:50,760 --> 01:47:54,800
Speaker 4: You can also reach me by texting me at two

1900
01:47:54,840 --> 01:47:57,880
Speaker 4: O two two five six two five one eight, or

1901
01:47:57,920 --> 01:48:01,200
Speaker 4: you can hit me on UH email s E n

1902
01:48:01,360 --> 01:48:05,080
Speaker 4: g h O r up b at hotmail dot com

1903
01:48:05,400 --> 01:48:09,160
Speaker 4: or our cloud dot com. And brothers and sisters, please

1904
01:48:09,320 --> 01:48:11,200
Speaker 4: know you can get with the U n I A

1905
01:48:11,800 --> 01:48:15,920
Speaker 4: on Facebook of DC by going to U n I

1906
01:48:16,360 --> 01:48:19,000
Speaker 4: U n i A Division three thirty. And you can

1907
01:48:19,080 --> 01:48:24,040
Speaker 4: also UH go to our website uh U n I

1908
01:48:24,120 --> 01:48:29,760
Speaker 4: A A c l r C twenty twenty dot com.

1909
01:48:29,880 --> 01:48:31,960
Speaker 1: And this weekend you got two events. You're real quick?

1910
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Speaker 1: What are those events? Brother? Single?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 3: Not this weekend coming up the following weekend following with

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Speaker 3: Art twenty seventh. Uh, we're gonna Uh you can go

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Speaker 3: to our Facebook page and you can call me and

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Speaker 3: I'll give you detailed information. And on the twenty eighth,

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Speaker 3: it's a program we support with Apter Bailey and uh

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Speaker 3: Brother Macassa Ricks at Everlasting Life.

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Speaker 10: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Those are those are events that we support. There are

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Speaker 3: many other events, but those are very and also let

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Speaker 3: me held up Amos Wilson. Amos Wilson is on the

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Speaker 3: birthday is on the twenty third, and Appeal is hosting

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Speaker 3: Brother Motip of the Race First Movement in Baltimore the

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Speaker 3: PLM this Saturday, coming up on the twenty first, and

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Speaker 3: on the twenty eighth, brother our firm who is keeping

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Speaker 3: the legacy of Amos Wilson alied. So there's a whole

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Speaker 3: lot going on reach out to us. I can give

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Speaker 3: you more details, but we got to keep it real

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Speaker 3: and we say, up you mighty Race, we can accomplish

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Speaker 3: what we will, all right.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, brother, thank you brother saying God, Thank you Chief.

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Speaker 1: We thank you for sharing your thoughts with us this morning.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for the extra time.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, and thank doctor Taylor, Doctor Taylor Grand Rising,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the program. It's doctor Taylor on line five.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm here.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, didn't hear you, doctor Taylor. Let's get into

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Speaker 1: it right away. Good morning, Yeah, grand Rising, thank you

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Speaker 1: for joining us on this holiday. For some folks before

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Speaker 1: we get though, congratulations in order for you, can you

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Speaker 1: share that with a family.

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Speaker 4: Well, I became a chair of the Department of Politics

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Speaker 4: again in my department at the university for a second run.

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Speaker 4: And I've finished my book on People's Temple recently, and

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Speaker 4: that's in the publishing process right now. So those are

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Speaker 4: the two most exciting things that got going on right now,

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Speaker 4: both job related, but it's also a happy Black History

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Speaker 4: Month and an important time for black people to focus

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Speaker 4: on their own development. At this time, I was so

1950
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Speaker 4: glad to hear a conversation about Marcus Garvey and to

1951
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Speaker 4: hear somebody that knew what they were talking about when

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Speaker 4: it came to Marcus Garvey, because I honestly believed that

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Speaker 4: the loss of memory and knowledge and data from the

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Speaker 4: u NIA is the fundamental problem of Black America. We

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Speaker 4: were right on track in the in the World War

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Speaker 4: one World War two period, and Harold Cruz, who wrote

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Speaker 4: the book The crisis of the Negro intellectual says, we

1958
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Speaker 4: went into World War One, as garbyites, we came out

1959
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Speaker 4: of World War Two and the Great Depression singing integration,

1960
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Speaker 4: and that fundamental shift in black thinking devastated us because

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Speaker 4: we completely abandoned any sense of group collective destiny. You know,

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Speaker 4: as Garby said, one god won aim one destiny. We

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Speaker 4: abandoned as the black people our common destiny in America

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Speaker 4: under Jim Crow conditions. And as soon as we could

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Speaker 4: leave each other, we did, and so did the white

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Speaker 4: man opened up capitalism and opened up the you know,

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Speaker 4: the public sector. We we sort of abandon the sense

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Speaker 4: that we have that we are a we. And one

1969
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Speaker 4: of the common things that most black intellectuals, going back

1970
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Speaker 4: to David Walker and Penderick Douglas and Bothol Washington and W. E. B.

1971
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Speaker 4: Du Bois, is that Blacks constituted, like the Irish, a

1972
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Speaker 4: nation within a nation. We abandon our nationality consciousness as

1973
01:52:32,240 --> 01:52:34,439
Speaker 4: soon as we could, as soon as the white man

1974
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Speaker 4: opened the door, we abandon Guarbyism and you and I

1975
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Speaker 4: a and that's why we now don't have a good

1976
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Speaker 4: route or foundation of who we are in terms of

1977
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Speaker 4: our sense of collective identity. You know, that's part of

1978
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Speaker 4: our dilemma is we abandon the sense of we in

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Speaker 4: our in our politics.

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Speaker 1: All right, thirty minutes after the top out with doctor

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Speaker 1: James Taylor. Doctor Taylor is a political scientist, the political

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Speaker 1: science teacher professor if he will at University of San Francisco,

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Speaker 1: and the students there fight together in his class. And

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Speaker 1: he's a black politics expert. So let's talk some politics,

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Speaker 1: doctor Taylor. Stephen A. Smith has been flirting with the

1986
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Speaker 1: fact that he may run for the president. I want

1987
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Speaker 1: to get your thoughts on this because all of a

1988
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Speaker 1: sudden they gave him a hundred million dollars and once

1989
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Speaker 1: I saw that, I was like, Okay, then not giving

1990
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Speaker 1: this dude a hundred million dollars to talk about excellent

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Speaker 1: os and sports and talk about Lebron. There's something more

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Speaker 1: to this, And I'm just wondering if do you think

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Speaker 1: he's you know, in athletic and track, in the long

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Speaker 1: distance race, they have a rabbit that's a guy who

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Speaker 1: goes out in front and he runs hard and tries

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Speaker 1: to get the other competitors to run as hard as

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Speaker 1: they can. Then the person who knows he's the rabbit

1998
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Speaker 1: holds back and when everybody's burned out, he comes on

1999
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Speaker 1: the last lap, the bell lap, and he just beats

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Speaker 1: everyone because he's keeping his reserve in the tank. We

2001
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Speaker 1: saw this with what do you say, doctor Cornell Way?

2002
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Speaker 1: He did it twice in the last presidential election, Waldawood Tavis.

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Speaker 1: And when with doctor Maline Abdullah? Is heven new rabbit

2004
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Speaker 1: in the race? Do you think of doctor Taylor? How

2005
01:54:10,880 --> 01:54:12,840
Speaker 1: do you see Steve Naysman because he says he's flirting.

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Speaker 1: You know he wants to run because they get all

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Speaker 1: that money for nothing. Your thoughts?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know he's then propped up by the

2009
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Speaker 4: media and by his own team as a possibility, as

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Speaker 4: an idea and as absurd as it is. And it

2011
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Speaker 4: is absurd that a black man would an undergraduate degree

2012
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Speaker 4: in maybe sports communications or communications with zero experience of

2013
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Speaker 4: governing over anything in his entire black life. He ain't

2014
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Speaker 4: never governed nothing. After the failure of Donald Trump, this

2015
01:54:55,240 --> 01:55:02,640
Speaker 4: country would be sick err to in turn go back

2016
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Speaker 4: to a unqualified, loud, arrogant, self important New York negro

2017
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Speaker 4: who ain't nothing but Donald Trump in black space? Why

2018
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Speaker 4: the hell what America? I mean? And again, I gotta,

2019
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Speaker 4: you know, coursing myself because they voted for Trump, so

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Speaker 4: if they did that, they could vote for steven A.

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Speaker 4: Smith and anybody. But there's literally zero rationale. Nobody wants

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Speaker 4: steven A. Smith to run. It's an imposition. They're forcing

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Speaker 4: him on us, and Black America will repudiate Stephen A. Smith.

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Speaker 4: He has nothing to say to them except white stuff.

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Speaker 4: Steven A shith have got nothing to say to black

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Speaker 4: people about blackness on black terms. That isn't some white

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Speaker 4: man's abidding. Yes, he's the rabbit. He is the rabbit

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Speaker 4: who sneaks in at the end. And what they will

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Speaker 4: do with him is use him to distract the entire

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Speaker 4: conversation because they know the most important voting segment of

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Speaker 4: the entire voting popul nation is the enthusiasm behind wherever

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Speaker 4: the black group is going. Wherever we're going, music is going,

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Speaker 4: enthusiasm is going, young people are going. So you know,

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Speaker 4: black is cool. It's so cool in Florida. They don't

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Speaker 4: ban the word black right under the sandus. But my

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Speaker 4: point is when we decide politically to make a move,

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Speaker 4: there's a lot that goes with that. And if we

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Speaker 4: were to get behind Stephen Smith like we did Baha

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Speaker 4: Obama or Kamala Harris. That would be a shock to

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Speaker 4: me because Stephen A. Smith is playing in black people's faces,

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Speaker 4: trying to come at them from Nicki Minaj's pop culture standpoint.

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Speaker 4: In other words, Stephen Ah Smith and his advisors have enough,

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Speaker 4: They have enough of disrespect for the country. That's what

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Speaker 4: we try and run for president because Stephen A. Smith

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Speaker 4: knows he has no business running from mayor. He couldn't

2046
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Speaker 4: win New York mayor, but neither Cook Trump. So what

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Speaker 4: they're doing is Trump. What Stephen Nate Smith is doing

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Speaker 4: is basically saying, I'm just like Trump, but I'm black,

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Speaker 4: so I'm gonna try it. That's it, stephen Ate Smith Trump.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but doctor Taylor, you gotta admit that twenty six

2051
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Speaker 1: away from the Taler, some people will vote for him

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Speaker 1: because I'm gonna vote for the black man and not

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Speaker 1: understanding that. It's just it's the way to peel off

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Speaker 1: a voters from the Democratic Party. It's back in that

2055
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Speaker 1: plantation politics where we're at again. Some people just what

2056
01:57:56,760 --> 01:57:59,760
Speaker 1: happened with Cornell West in the last race, and people

2057
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Speaker 1: didn't pick that up all the first race with corner

2058
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Speaker 1: Western Tavis and the corner Western with doctor Abdullah. They

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Speaker 1: didn't say people didn't think. Couldn't figure that out a

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Speaker 1: lot of black people, And all they need is is

2061
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Speaker 1: a certain margin of black folks, you know, not to

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Speaker 1: vote for the Democratic Party, so we know who's who's

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Speaker 1: bankrolling him. And it's the same game and the same

2064
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Speaker 1: play play that they ran the last time, the last

2065
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Speaker 1: two times in the presidential elections, and they're doing it again.

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Speaker 1: But I'm just wondering, do you think our people smart

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Speaker 1: enough to pick up on that?

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Speaker 4: I do? I think you know, he steven a Search

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01:58:32,360 --> 01:58:35,560
Speaker 4: is loud and wrong, and he actually alienates as many

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Speaker 4: Black people as he would attract. Again, he's not speaking

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Speaker 4: to specific issues that black people care about. There's nothing

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01:58:43,600 --> 01:58:47,200
Speaker 4: that Steven Ate Smith is saying at all. I mean,

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Speaker 4: what is his platform, what is his policy position? What

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01:58:51,240 --> 01:58:55,720
Speaker 4: does he think about Ukraine? What does he think about Iran?

2075
01:58:56,240 --> 01:59:00,640
Speaker 4: What does he think about Venezuela? He is not Look,

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01:59:00,680 --> 01:59:04,240
Speaker 4: I got a pH d in political science and I

2077
01:59:04,240 --> 01:59:08,040
Speaker 4: ain't qualified to run the country. How the man who's

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Speaker 4: who's whose main gift is running his loud New York

2079
01:59:11,800 --> 01:59:16,600
Speaker 4: mouth like mine, and and I'm allowed new Yorker. He's

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Speaker 4: allowed New York Player. Trump has allowed New Yorker. The

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01:59:19,640 --> 01:59:23,040
Speaker 4: difference is what is coming out of their mouths. And

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01:59:23,080 --> 01:59:25,680
Speaker 4: that's the problem with Stephen Ah Smith. He ain't saying

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Speaker 4: nothing and and and he can't confuse enough black people

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01:59:30,400 --> 01:59:34,640
Speaker 4: in the process because the process will thin him out.

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Speaker 4: In other words, unless he does like Trump and just

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Speaker 4: run through a Republican primary, and you know, and he's

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Speaker 4: running as a Democrat, apparently, uh, he would have a

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01:59:46,480 --> 01:59:50,360
Speaker 4: real problem running up against somebody like Wes Moore because

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Speaker 4: you know, again, this is about presentation and acting and

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01:59:55,720 --> 01:59:59,480
Speaker 4: pretending and playing. It's almost like the Robin Williams movie

2091
01:59:59,600 --> 02:00:03,200
Speaker 4: when Rob than Williams ran for president. You know, you know,

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02:00:03,400 --> 02:00:06,880
Speaker 4: the more outrageous and stupid and silly and unprofessional you

2093
02:00:06,960 --> 02:00:15,840
Speaker 4: can be an un square or un um you know, serious,

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02:00:16,520 --> 02:00:19,240
Speaker 4: the better you do. I mean, think about the Ukraine's

2095
02:00:19,280 --> 02:00:26,080
Speaker 4: president is a comedian. Donald Trump is the reality TV star.

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Speaker 4: After the Trump disaster, I just can't imagine the country

2097
02:00:31,160 --> 02:00:33,840
Speaker 4: would go right back in the same direction and go

2098
02:00:33,920 --> 02:00:37,440
Speaker 4: after the only thing different is a negro in black

2099
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Speaker 4: face who is loud like Trump, ignorant like Trump, wrong,

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Speaker 4: like Trump and had zero policy of platform to offer

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Speaker 4: black people. The pop with Stephen H. Smith is he's

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Speaker 4: going to come to play a game that doesn't include

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Speaker 4: black people. It's only with only the audience. And the

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Speaker 4: game he will play isn't white executivesn't white media leaders,

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Speaker 4: and frankly Jewish money.

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Speaker 1: Right hold up door right there. I let you explain

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Speaker 1: on that when we get back. We got to step

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Speaker 1: aside for a few moments. Family just joined us twenty

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Speaker 1: three minutes away from the top of our guest doctor

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Speaker 1: James Taylor. He is a black politics analyst, the expert.

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Speaker 1: If you will, you want to speak to him, reach

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Speaker 1: out to us at eight hundred four or five zero

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Speaker 1: seventy eight seventy six and we'll take your phone calls. Next,

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Speaker 1: I guess doctor James Taylor. Doctor Taylor teachers at San

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Speaker 1: Francisco's University and he's a political science teacher. He's a

2116
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Speaker 1: black politics expert. We're talking politics right now, bone Tail.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about Epstein files and also can

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Speaker 1: talk about Jasmine Crockett. Jasmine Crockett comes from Crockett seeing

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Speaker 1: a senatorial race tomorrow Tuesday in Texas and they say

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Speaker 1: that the black voters could be the determining factor in

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Speaker 1: that race. We're going to talk about that with doctor

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Speaker 1: Taylor and later this week we're going to hear from

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Speaker 1: natural practic and traditional doctor doctor a also educational and author,

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Speaker 1: doctor Kemmick Shockley will be here. So if you are

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Speaker 1: in Baltimore, make sure you keep that radio lot tight

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Speaker 1: on ten ten WLB or you're in the DMV family

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Speaker 1: rolling on fourteen fifty WL. So don't tell him. Let

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Speaker 1: you finish your thoughts then. And then premises the scing

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Speaker 1: on with Epstein with Epstein files is this is this

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Speaker 1: coloring everything that we know politically. Now everything's going to

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Speaker 1: be based on who's in the files, who's not in

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Speaker 1: the files, and why all this talk about the files?

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Speaker 4: It did appear so like a water gate and you

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Speaker 4: know av scam a long time ago, and the Iran

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Speaker 4: concert scandal and the fact that there was a whole

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Speaker 4: crack cocaine connection. Yes, everything. I think what we're seeing

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Speaker 4: is mind blowing that all of the paranoia of the

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Speaker 4: last twenty years around headophilia and blood, you know, pledges

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Speaker 4: and dark looms with people in mass and you know

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Speaker 4: with blood, you know, being poured out in different ways.

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Speaker 4: Things we've seen in the movies is real, and apparently

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Speaker 4: it's global because we've seen countries from around the world

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Speaker 4: actually rise up and now begin to prosecute and investigate

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Speaker 4: these cases. So the Americans can, you know, put it

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Speaker 4: all aside. But throughout Europe it's being raised and we

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Speaker 4: see people heads falling throughout Europe, men and white women

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Speaker 4: are resigning. Only in the US have we seen, you know,

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Speaker 4: Larry Summers and a few others step down, But we

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Speaker 4: haven't seen, you know, someone like a Trump or one

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Speaker 4: of his main advisors. They say many of Trump's people

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Speaker 4: are connected to this. So yeah, I think, you know,

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Speaker 4: we're seeing the nightmare that we have been told with real.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I listened to rose Dan Barr the other

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Speaker 4: day from an old post and she's sounded and Corey

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Speaker 4: Feldman and they both sound completely crazy about pedophilia in

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Speaker 4: Hollywood ten five years ago. What they're saying sounds crazy,

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Speaker 4: But today they sound like the one eyed you know,

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Speaker 4: man in the Land of the Blind because they were

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Speaker 4: the only ones to see it. Roseanne Barr and Cory

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Speaker 4: Saltman and then also the other boy from Home Alone.

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Speaker 4: He's vindicated Michael Jackson, and now they're saying Michael Jackson

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Speaker 4: and again I don't know if this is AI or

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Speaker 4: internet nonsense, but what I've seen is the claim that

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Speaker 4: Michael Jackson was used to never Land to protect McCaulay,

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Speaker 4: Culkin and other child celebrities. And he's from E. F. Sein.

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Speaker 4: So instead of Michael Jackson being a perpetrator on children,

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Speaker 4: the narrative is shifting right now that Michael Jackson was

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Speaker 4: actually trying to protect children, and that to me is

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Speaker 4: profound that that has happened as a subtext to everything else.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I don't have the information, the knowledge, the

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Speaker 4: the the intelligence in terms of, you know, measurable information

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Speaker 4: about how wide this goes. But we're seeing every day

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Speaker 4: a new piece of the Epstein Trump files, uh fall.

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Speaker 4: And in those files there's a lot of deep racism

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Speaker 4: where I've seen at least two comments where Epstein's using

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Speaker 4: the N word in terms of a black young girl.

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Speaker 4: He was saying, don't bring any ends, and he didn't

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Speaker 4: say neet rose or blacks, he used the N word.

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Speaker 4: And then later he said on video I watched it

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Speaker 4: yesterday where he expressed and and he's a weird. He's

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Speaker 4: a weird demon. But he expressed discussed when a black

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Speaker 4: man tried to kiss him one time and he used

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Speaker 4: the N word. So there's a lot. And then apart

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Speaker 4: from that call, he believes in these ideas like Trump

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Speaker 4: of eugenics, Genes low i q He and Nol Chomsky.

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Speaker 4: You know, I've always been a radical thinker, but I've

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Speaker 4: never sold out to the right left. I've never embraced

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Speaker 4: the you know, the likes of Chomsky or some of

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Speaker 4: you know, uh, some of the other people that are

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Speaker 4: celebrating intellectual And I'm glad because Tomsky is Jewish first

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Speaker 4: and he's a left intellectual second. And that's what we're

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Speaker 4: seeing in these circles is many of this is about

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Speaker 4: their ethnic identity and and they're mobilizing around that. I mean,

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Speaker 4: we're talking about Jerry Seinfeld, We're talking about uh what

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Speaker 4: he what he what's his name of the Woody Allen.

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Speaker 4: These are long examples of older men with underage girls

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Speaker 4: right in front of us. And it's a cultural dynamic.

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Speaker 4: It is a cultural dynamic because it's not just a

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Speaker 4: male problem of men pre dating, free dating on girls.

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Speaker 4: This is a part of a lifestyle a culture. These people.

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Speaker 4: It's like it's like everybody who is on Bernie Madoff's

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Speaker 4: you know whitlists are also on the Epstein sex list.

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Speaker 4: Bernie Madeoff is deeply implicated in the Epstein connection, and

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Speaker 4: nobody's going to make that connection for you. But we

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Speaker 4: know Bernie Madeoff targeted and Epstein.

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Speaker 6: Look.

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Speaker 4: I went to let me say this. I went to

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Speaker 4: grade school on Long Island. One of the first white

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Speaker 4: kids I ever met in my life in school was

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Speaker 4: named Bruce Weinstein. Bruce Weinstein is Stein's lawyer. So I'm

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Speaker 4: pulling your audience call. I went to school as a

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Speaker 4: style all Long Island with Stein's lawyer. Yes I did,

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Speaker 4: Yes I did. I ain't got no reason to lie.

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Speaker 4: We went to grand called Long Island Public schools together.

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Speaker 4: And somebody recently hit me up on Facebook and said, no,

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Speaker 4: you know Bruce Weinstein's Stee's lawyer, don't you? And I'm like, WHOA.

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Speaker 4: So I'm come from New York, and in New York

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Speaker 4: we understand Jewish ethnic, cultural identity and politics and then

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Speaker 4: ay anti Semitism to discuss it. That's part of the problem.

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Speaker 4: Anytime you talk about the Jewish influence in American politics,

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Speaker 4: or in black politics, or how it might be. Behind

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Speaker 4: Stephen A. Smith. The way you get cut off is

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Speaker 4: they call you an anti Sommit. But after what we

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Speaker 4: saw with the genocide, I think everybody's no longer concerned

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Speaker 4: and about being called anti Semite. In the world where

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Speaker 4: Israel is leading the world in violence in the name

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Speaker 4: of being chosen and making claims sure Land, they don't

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Speaker 4: get to be the victim they used to be before

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Speaker 4: Messing Yahoo. Yes you're victims of Hitler and of the Nazis,

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Speaker 4: but that is changed, and Israel is the best example

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Speaker 4: in the world. But there are others of countries where

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Speaker 4: the oppressed becomes the oppressors, and that's clear. And Stephen H.

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Speaker 4: Smith is tied to all of this. It's all New York.

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Speaker 4: It's Jewish New York. It's money influencing. It's a pack.

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Speaker 4: The number one interest group in America is a pack.

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Speaker 4: The American Israel Political Action Committee is a bunch of

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Speaker 4: Jewish millionaires hiding their hands while they're busy throwing rocks

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Speaker 4: and making windows everywhere. Peter Kiel is a homosexual, demon,

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Speaker 4: rageous devil from South Africa and his and and uh

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Speaker 4: Musk's brother is all in seven fiber that see brother

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Speaker 4: was being pimped out by uh uh. There was all

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Speaker 4: of that going on, and and then well let me.

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Speaker 1: Tell me here for a second here, doctor Taylor, Doctor

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Speaker 1: tell that's all right there at nine away from the top,

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Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk, you know, one of the one of the

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Speaker 1: theories that he was taken out because he was speaking

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Speaker 1: about against Israel. And some people thought that he was

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Speaker 1: probably the massade because the sniper hit that hit him

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02:10:41,480 --> 02:10:44,080
Speaker 1: was not just a Navish cat who's got a gun?

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Speaker 1: Who was that that good? He was speaking about it?

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Speaker 1: He was he was criticizing Israel, and and some people

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Speaker 1: think that's why he that he had to be eliminated.

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Speaker 1: Your thoughts.

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Speaker 4: He actually got emails threatening him days before he got

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Speaker 4: he was taken out because he had rejected some demand

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Speaker 4: or mandate that he de pro Israel. And that's what's

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Speaker 4: happened between him and Ben Shapiro and Candice Owens. And

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Speaker 4: that little pork, little piece of crap looks like he

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02:11:16,360 --> 02:11:20,120
Speaker 4: ain't took a shower in five years. Nick Fuente is

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Speaker 4: a little white Mexican. I don't know what he is.

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Speaker 4: He looks like a dirty white boy. He's apathetic, and

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Speaker 4: he looks like he's sitting there with a suit jacket

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02:11:27,520 --> 02:11:30,520
Speaker 4: on with more pants on, behind the desk, talking crap.

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Speaker 4: I don't understand the appeal of these these these seven

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Speaker 4: and men with Michael phones alone in the home talking

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Speaker 4: to themselves, drawing millions. He sells you there are so

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Speaker 4: many vulable people who will follow anything, but Paul, this

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02:11:47,880 --> 02:11:51,080
Speaker 4: is bigger than you and me can begin to imagine.

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Speaker 4: And they will make sure we never know the whole truth.

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Speaker 4: Just like we don't know the whole pots about who

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Speaker 4: killed MLK, We don't know the whole tuots about what

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Speaker 4: happened with the murder of not the next We don't

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Speaker 4: know the whole truth about you know a number of

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Speaker 4: things that have happened in our own history, you know.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, stephen A is a part of this equation.

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02:12:12,440 --> 02:12:16,360
Speaker 4: It all breaks together. So you cannot separate Stephen A's

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Speaker 4: presidential campaign from the the politics of pedophilia. Because if

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Speaker 4: swimmin A comes at the black and again he's claiming

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Speaker 4: he's gonna run as a Democrat, if he's gonna run

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Speaker 4: as a black conservative Democrat, that's not gonna work. And

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Speaker 4: we've seen the pony before of a of a of

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Speaker 4: a black conservative Republican. That's also that lane has been covered,

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Speaker 4: you know by Lemon King only ninety nine. You know,

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Speaker 4: we know what happened to Herman Kane. Does Stephen Ame

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Speaker 4: want to be the next over Herman Kane or or

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Speaker 4: you know, liv Compa. The reality is, whoever roles against

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Speaker 4: sup and Swumpism will have to sustain a campaign condemning

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Speaker 4: everything about Tump. You can't run anti talk light. Stephen

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02:13:12,920 --> 02:13:17,360
Speaker 4: Day Smooth will have to be a dune for anti Trumptism,

2290
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Speaker 4: and you can't because they are applied together. It's all

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Speaker 4: the same sick New York machine of the Jewists on

2292
02:13:27,160 --> 02:13:30,680
Speaker 4: the culture. And again the more you dig into it,

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Speaker 4: the more you look like an anti Semite. Because of

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02:13:33,840 --> 02:13:38,839
Speaker 4: the connections through ethnicity in New York. Why ethnicity matters.

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02:13:39,040 --> 02:13:42,200
Speaker 4: It may not matter in Texas, it matters in New

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Speaker 4: York if you're Jewish or Irish, or Polish or German

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Speaker 4: or Italian. And people still in u live in all

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Speaker 4: Jewish neighborhoods, all Irish neighborhoods, all Italian neighborhoods throughout the

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Speaker 4: Bronx Brooklyn Queens and Manhattan. I know New York and

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Speaker 4: again in Chicago, there's dethlicity there. Yeah, in the Irish

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Speaker 4: the Daily Machine, San Francisco, there's a lot of different diversity.

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Speaker 4: La there's diversity, but athmlicity amongst whites its strongest in

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Speaker 4: the Old East Coast cities like New York and Boston

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02:14:20,680 --> 02:14:26,080
Speaker 4: and uh the New York. Political analysts can talk about

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Speaker 4: Jewish ethnic politics in relationships with white ethnic politics in

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Speaker 4: ways that a lot of people can't. Because the closer

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Speaker 4: who get to New York, the ethmlicity matters. Closer who

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Speaker 4: get the JFK and LaGuardia. When we land on that

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Speaker 4: ground its ne spadi cally Athlicity don't matter as much.

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02:14:45,480 --> 02:14:47,960
Speaker 4: But when we land in daff K or La Gaudia,

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Speaker 4: when we meet the brown immediately, it's the Jewish being

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02:14:51,520 --> 02:14:56,120
Speaker 4: Jewish matters. It's Irish being Irish matters. So again, going

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Speaker 4: back to Vintion Hirst, going at the Crown Heights, go

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Speaker 4: on at the Wanta, going back to the Clown Heights,

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Speaker 4: loias what a Jewish politics had been troubled since the

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Speaker 4: nineteen sixties, since Black Paula was hoded.

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Speaker 1: Right and hold up, all right there, Doctor tayl gott

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Speaker 1: to step aside for a few months. Before we do that,

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Speaker 1: let me share something real quickly with the family. What's

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Speaker 1: his name, Uncle Luke, you know, and from back in

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Speaker 1: the nineties. Well, anyway, he said he went Tomorrow Logo

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Speaker 1: back in the nineties and he said something disturbed him.

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02:15:33,840 --> 02:15:37,400
Speaker 1: He saw a lot of women, young girls, he should say,

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Speaker 1: in rooms with no music. He thought it was going

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Speaker 1: to a party and he left. Well, anyway, Uncle Luke

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Speaker 1: is running for office for Congress in Florida, So keep

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Speaker 1: an eye on that race as well as we keep

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Speaker 1: an eye on tomorrow's race with Jasmine Crockett family, you

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Speaker 1: want to get in on this conversation with our guest,

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Speaker 1: doctor James Taylor. Political anlys reach out to us at

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Speaker 1: eight hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy six and

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Speaker 1: what ticket phone calls after we allow our stayings to

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Speaker 1: identify themselves down to line this next and grand Rising family,

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Speaker 1: thanks for starting your week with us at the top

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Speaker 1: of the eye with our guess, Doctor James Taylor teaches

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Speaker 1: the University of San Francisco, is a political science professor,

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Speaker 1: also a black politics expert in discussion. He's connecting the

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Speaker 1: dots between the Epstein files and politics. What are your thoughts?

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Speaker 1: Eight hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy six will

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Speaker 1: get you? And he speaks to doctor Taylor, Doctor Tail,

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Speaker 1: I'll let you finish your thought that we got some

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Speaker 1: folks who want to talk to you.

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Speaker 4: Well, just simply that the Black and Jewish a coalition

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Speaker 4: that existed under the New Deal coalition fractured when Black

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Speaker 4: Power was uttered and when a group of white women

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Speaker 4: in Snick wrote a letter to white women in Snick

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Speaker 4: wrote a letter emphasizing gender in sexuality and blew up

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Speaker 4: the black male and female coalition in Snick. You know,

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Speaker 4: that's when it starts when in Slick to Jewish women

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Speaker 4: write a complaint about sex and sexuality in Snick. And

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Speaker 4: that's the beginning of the split, when black women break

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Speaker 4: off and have the Hombee River Collective. Even though Ela

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Speaker 4: Baker was in charge of the Snick A Woman last

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Speaker 4: Snick A woman was the leader of Snick. In my

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Speaker 4: book on Black Nationalism, I talk about Ela Baka as

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Speaker 4: a mother of Black power. She supported those young people,

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Speaker 4: but she didn't dominate them. Women had every bit of

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Speaker 4: stay so like e Ceptee mcclark and Daisy Bates in

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Speaker 4: those debates with Snick, as snow Fley Carmichael did, there

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Speaker 4: wasn't no male oppression of black women in Snick, but

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Speaker 4: that's the narrative, and white women started it and then

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Speaker 4: it took on a life with own. But I'm saying

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Speaker 4: to you black power. Jesse Jackson running in eighty four

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Speaker 4: when he called it heimitown New York, and then father

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Speaker 4: Conny merging in the eighties and nineties are the things

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Speaker 4: that really impacted their old Black Jewish New Deal Coalition.

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Speaker 4: Clemens Jones, who you've had on your show, is doctor

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Speaker 4: Martin Luther King's attorney who wrote I Have a Dreaming Part,

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Speaker 4: who wrote Vietnam Speech, the anti Vietnam speech in part

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Speaker 4: is deeply upset about the fracture between Blacks and Jews,

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Speaker 4: but most people aren't honest in that conversation. Irving Crystal's

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Speaker 4: father started a magazine called Commentary. Commentary magazine became the

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Speaker 4: main organ that conservative Jews who broke from the New

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Speaker 4: Deal Coalition and joined the Reagan Coalition used that magazine

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Speaker 4: Commentary to articulate anti black, anti affirmative action and the

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Speaker 4: neo conservative policies. This is Norm Potter Ricks, Norm Houtoists

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Speaker 4: and Herb Crystal To leading Jewish intellectuals created a magazine

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Speaker 4: and it became strongly anti black and anti black policy.

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Speaker 4: So the number one opponents to a permative action in

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Speaker 4: America are agents Chinees and Jewish. Jews and Asians hate

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02:19:19,959 --> 02:19:24,800
Speaker 4: a primative action. So while we with Jews and call

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Speaker 4: it Chinese, there are even me Politically. I'm not talking racism.

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02:19:30,320 --> 02:19:34,680
Speaker 4: I'm talking politics. I'm not talking Jewish racial identity. So

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Speaker 4: you can't tag me with no anti Semitism. It's ignorant

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Speaker 4: to do. So. I'm talking about the Trascian political coalition

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Speaker 4: of the New Deal and how it panned out between

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Speaker 4: the Art and Regan. And I'm saying the New Deal

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Speaker 4: coalition was Jews, labor or Liberal Protestants, Catholics and Lead

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Speaker 4: and Blacks. That was the New Deal coalition. Ragie comes

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Speaker 4: along in that eighties and he pulled away jus. He

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Speaker 4: pulled away Catholics and these old white ethnics like Phil

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Speaker 4: O'Reilly and Sean Hannity, whose fathers were looked down upon

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02:20:12,800 --> 02:20:17,440
Speaker 4: as Irish men, have become paid Why Lupi and Murdoch

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Speaker 4: to sell out their souls to abandon the New Deal coalition.

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Speaker 4: So I'm seeing in the seventies and eighties Jews and

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Speaker 4: Irish and Catholics pull the way off of the New

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Speaker 4: Deal and they became hostile is a Republican party mainly

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Speaker 4: towards blacks because when Jesse ran in eighty four, they

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Speaker 4: thought blacks that dominated and took over the Republican Party.

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Speaker 4: But this is when Ed Cloch in New York if

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Speaker 4: you remember Ed Koch, he was a Jewish mayor and

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Speaker 4: he was extremely anti black. He was extremely anti black,

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Speaker 4: and that part of the problem with this conversation. It

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Speaker 4: did a lot of Jewish anti books this.

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Speaker 1: And let me just jump in here and say, we're

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Speaker 1: not being anti Semitic, because you know, doctor tell us.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you say something that they think is

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Speaker 1: detrimental to Jewish people, they run and grab that anti

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Speaker 1: Semitic flag right away, And so you're being anti Semitic

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Speaker 1: that you're not supposed to even say anything or critique

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Speaker 1: anything that's Jewish or a Jewish person. So let me

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Speaker 1: just say that, put it out there so that people

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Speaker 1: will think we're you know, gunn of if I'm tirade

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Speaker 1: against Jews. Now, that's not what we're trying to do here.

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Speaker 4: And I have profound respect for Jewish people and the

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Speaker 4: Jewish social teachings, and what I was saying about Clarence Jones,

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Speaker 4: doctor King's lawyer, he has emphasized to me the deep

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Speaker 4: importance of the Black and Jewish political coalition. I'm talking

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02:21:47,080 --> 02:21:51,080
Speaker 4: on politics, not race, Black and Jewish political coalition that

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02:21:51,240 --> 02:21:54,720
Speaker 4: formed under the New Deal, and then it tractured somewhere

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Speaker 4: between Jesse and Fara Khan or with Jesse and far

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Speaker 4: A Khan. So again, you got to come to us

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Speaker 4: and talk to us about why they abandoned the coalition.

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Speaker 4: We didn't abandoning coalition. We're still in it. In fact,

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Speaker 4: when you hear the word liberal, it usually is a

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Speaker 4: code word for Blacks and a cold word for Jews

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Speaker 4: in politics. So if you're listening to CNN and you

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Speaker 4: hear the word liberals, which nobody uses anymore, every conservative

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02:22:25,800 --> 02:22:30,480
Speaker 4: says they conservative, no liberal in American politics both about

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Speaker 4: being liberal, not one, not one maybe Nancy Pelosi, but

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Speaker 4: that's it. Everybody else uses the word progressive. Because in

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Speaker 4: nineteen eighty eight, again when Bush ran against Ducaucus. During

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Speaker 4: the campaign, Bush, six foot three tall, stood up over

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Speaker 4: five to nine Douke Caucus and held his figure up

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Speaker 4: and made the L word shape and said, du Caucus

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02:22:51,000 --> 02:22:56,000
Speaker 4: because of the Willie Horton Freloh program, was the L word.

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02:22:56,440 --> 02:22:59,320
Speaker 4: In nineteen eighty eight, George Bush held up his left

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Speaker 4: hand and said, Decucas is the L word. And from

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Speaker 4: that moment all in nineteen eighty eight, nobody in American

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02:23:08,840 --> 02:23:13,800
Speaker 4: politics openly says they're liberal. Nobody. They all say progressive

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Speaker 4: if they say anything. But you cannot find a conservative

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02:23:17,840 --> 02:23:22,119
Speaker 4: in American politics who doesn't lead with I'm a conservative,

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02:23:22,400 --> 02:23:27,480
Speaker 4: because being a conservative is racially acceptable in America. You

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02:23:27,520 --> 02:23:30,320
Speaker 4: can be a white conservative, but if you're a white liberal,

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02:23:30,560 --> 02:23:34,360
Speaker 4: you're a white trader. So white liberals have not lied

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Speaker 4: behind the way progressive. But it all began falling apart

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02:23:39,120 --> 02:23:42,080
Speaker 4: in nineteen sixty six, or black power. Its continued in

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Speaker 4: the eighties with Jesse and Shara Khan and now with

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02:23:47,120 --> 02:23:52,280
Speaker 4: Tanahasei coachs going over to Israel, coming back writing about

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02:23:52,280 --> 02:23:55,360
Speaker 4: it and describing it and talking about it. Look, we

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02:23:55,480 --> 02:23:58,200
Speaker 4: have no choice, we all no choice but to talk

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Speaker 4: about what happened in Palestine. Now who came here and

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02:24:01,879 --> 02:24:05,920
Speaker 4: disrespected Obama? Y'all remember that when now who came here

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02:24:06,160 --> 02:24:10,160
Speaker 4: disrespected Obama as president and gave but talked to Congress anyway.

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Speaker 4: So it's not a two way suet. It ain't like

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02:24:13,879 --> 02:24:17,880
Speaker 4: this black corn Jewish hatred. It's it's a one way street.

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Speaker 4: And the power of the anti Semitism label is it

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Speaker 4: shuts you up of a legitimate criticism.

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Speaker 1: And so again, yeah, hold up augh right there, because

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Speaker 1: we've got some folks who want to talk to you,

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Speaker 1: doctor Taylor. At eight after the top they hour eight

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Speaker 1: hundred and four five zero seventy eight seventy six. Cliss

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Speaker 1: came from Connecticut. The's on line four. Grand Rising Cliffe

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Speaker 1: are on with doctor Taylor.

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Speaker 11: And Grandresident of the Kevin Grand Resident. Doctor Taylor, I

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02:24:44,240 --> 02:24:46,640
Speaker 11: think you right on point. So with that being said,

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Speaker 11: doctor Taylor, when going back to politics, those individuals in

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Speaker 11: the Epstein files, and let me say this, I will

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Speaker 11: even go far to say that they are involved in

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Speaker 11: the cole a Satanic cod And with that being said

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Speaker 11: that the Taylor, would you agree that these members of

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02:25:03,959 --> 02:25:08,760
Speaker 11: this Trump cult regime occupy both political parties? So if

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Speaker 11: they occupy and I'll give you a perfect example, Bill

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02:25:12,160 --> 02:25:17,160
Speaker 11: Clinton and Trump. Now they seem and give the appearance

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02:25:17,480 --> 02:25:20,760
Speaker 11: that they're against each other, but remember when Hillary Clinton

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Speaker 11: and this whole thing with Bezza Gate, you know, down

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Speaker 11: in Washington, d C. And I'm in Connecticusts, so I

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02:25:26,240 --> 02:25:30,840
Speaker 11: understand about New York. But these individuals, they have a

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02:25:30,879 --> 02:25:35,280
Speaker 11: lot in common, and that's their commitment, you know, to

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02:25:35,400 --> 02:25:39,680
Speaker 11: doing rituals which involved these children. And again they occupy

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Speaker 11: both political parties as well with individuals on an international level.

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Speaker 11: So when we talk about politics, when we talk about

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02:25:48,440 --> 02:25:52,600
Speaker 11: politics as black people, there should be another alternative, and

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02:25:52,680 --> 02:25:55,400
Speaker 11: I think that should be what we have in common

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02:25:55,520 --> 02:25:59,640
Speaker 11: in terms of our African tradition rather than being loyal

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02:25:59,680 --> 02:26:03,879
Speaker 11: to a political party. Because again, like Malcolm X says,

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02:26:04,200 --> 02:26:07,160
Speaker 11: you know, we got white liberals that is worse as

2488
02:26:07,160 --> 02:26:12,000
Speaker 11: white conservatives. But yet that's how they appear from political standpoint.

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02:26:12,400 --> 02:26:16,040
Speaker 11: But actually there are cult members. So I'm just saying

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Speaker 11: for us as black people, should we be involved and

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02:26:20,000 --> 02:26:23,480
Speaker 11: have another solution in terms of getting unity to separate

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02:26:23,520 --> 02:26:25,800
Speaker 11: ourselves from both of these political parties.

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Speaker 4: I do, I do. I don't know how we can

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Speaker 4: do it under the limited circumstances that we only have

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02:26:32,320 --> 02:26:34,840
Speaker 4: a two parties to take my custom, and that's always

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02:26:34,879 --> 02:26:37,520
Speaker 4: been my politics, that we need a third or fourth

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Speaker 4: or fifth party. If we have more parties in the

2498
02:26:40,480 --> 02:26:43,640
Speaker 4: American government, a lot of the money corruption would go away.

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02:26:43,959 --> 02:26:47,119
Speaker 4: That's the problem, is the money corruption with Citizens United.

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02:26:47,320 --> 02:26:49,840
Speaker 4: And that's why Bernie has not given up on that

2501
02:26:49,920 --> 02:26:52,720
Speaker 4: one aspect, because that's when all of it goes back

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02:26:52,760 --> 02:26:55,440
Speaker 4: to money. It's all about money. And you're right, this

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02:26:55,640 --> 02:26:59,760
Speaker 4: is both parties. My profile people, the Prince of Wealth,

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02:27:00,400 --> 02:27:03,120
Speaker 4: the President of the United States, the former president of

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Speaker 4: the United States. Thank god, there's no Obama's in there.

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02:27:06,320 --> 02:27:09,680
Speaker 4: There's no biting in there. There's no Jimmy Carter in there,

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02:27:10,000 --> 02:27:14,000
Speaker 4: you know. But there's plenty of white men with money

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02:27:14,000 --> 02:27:18,959
Speaker 4: in there who have a sick fixation on children. I

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02:27:18,959 --> 02:27:22,440
Speaker 4: don't understand it. I guess it's a normal brain person,

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02:27:22,959 --> 02:27:24,800
Speaker 4: as much as any of us are normally brained. I

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02:27:24,800 --> 02:27:27,800
Speaker 4: think we're all off a little bit. But the idea

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02:27:27,840 --> 02:27:30,480
Speaker 4: that you are attracted to children, and Jeffie Epstein has

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02:27:30,480 --> 02:27:33,560
Speaker 4: actually said this in public, he doesn't know why he's

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02:27:33,600 --> 02:27:38,840
Speaker 4: attracted to young people. Now they say he got a

2515
02:27:38,879 --> 02:27:42,640
Speaker 4: physical deformity down there, and that's what they say about Slump,

2516
02:27:42,920 --> 02:27:48,440
Speaker 4: that these men have sexual inadequacies and they can't deal

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02:27:48,480 --> 02:27:52,360
Speaker 4: with women women, so they go after little girls who

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02:27:52,360 --> 02:27:55,560
Speaker 4: don't know the difference between a mutilated thing and a

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02:27:55,640 --> 02:27:58,840
Speaker 4: real thing and a normal thing, and that part of

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02:27:58,840 --> 02:28:02,640
Speaker 4: what this is is demonic. But the problem call going

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02:28:02,720 --> 02:28:05,600
Speaker 4: back to the caller, is we don't We will never

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02:28:05,720 --> 02:28:09,520
Speaker 4: know the whole truth. That's the problem. We only gonna

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02:28:09,520 --> 02:28:12,400
Speaker 4: get vincent pieces and it's always going to be in

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02:28:12,480 --> 02:28:17,520
Speaker 4: a kind of Alex Jones tyannoid style. Let's just like

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02:28:17,560 --> 02:28:22,080
Speaker 4: with JFK, the assassination of DFK, we are seventy years

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02:28:22,120 --> 02:28:25,560
Speaker 4: past that and we still don't know the whole truth

2527
02:28:25,760 --> 02:28:28,760
Speaker 4: of what happens with DFK in terms of Cuba and

2528
02:28:28,920 --> 02:28:32,680
Speaker 4: Russia and the international aspect, because like the brother Paulin's

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02:28:32,720 --> 02:28:33,840
Speaker 4: saying that we.

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Speaker 11: Know what's going over.

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Speaker 4: You got much as black folk interrupted this moment, but

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02:28:38,440 --> 02:28:42,279
Speaker 4: it's also a global phenomena. We only are being told

2533
02:28:42,280 --> 02:28:45,520
Speaker 4: what we what is known. What about all of the

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02:28:45,840 --> 02:28:50,000
Speaker 4: instances of abuse that we don't know about that aren't

2535
02:28:50,040 --> 02:28:52,000
Speaker 4: a part of the record. A lot of people who

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02:28:52,040 --> 02:28:56,840
Speaker 4: have escaped under the radar others are on the list.

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Speaker 4: I was thinking that list will never be complete. Think

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Speaker 4: about it and ruck, Carl. It amazes me that Victoria's

2539
02:29:05,320 --> 02:29:09,360
Speaker 4: Secret and then Ama, Kambie and Finch are still in business,

2540
02:29:09,680 --> 02:29:12,160
Speaker 4: I mean to me, and we're seeing that white woman

2541
02:29:12,200 --> 02:29:16,720
Speaker 4: would kill Victoria's Secret because this is where it all starts,

2542
02:29:17,040 --> 02:29:21,360
Speaker 4: going from the owner Weskan or Wescan, who's got exemplify

2543
02:29:21,440 --> 02:29:26,119
Speaker 4: your home, going from him to a fail white boy

2544
02:29:26,560 --> 02:29:32,000
Speaker 4: suwat school teacher made esteem all of a sudden, becoming

2545
02:29:32,040 --> 02:29:36,879
Speaker 4: a dollionaire through Victoria's Secret. Even a white girl made

2546
02:29:36,879 --> 02:29:41,359
Speaker 4: a popular song three years ago telling everybody that Victorious

2547
02:29:41,400 --> 02:29:44,680
Speaker 4: Secret was a man and it turned out to be

2548
02:29:44,760 --> 02:29:48,800
Speaker 4: the number one tenator in the Western culture. And yet

2549
02:29:48,920 --> 02:29:53,560
Speaker 4: woman of worry Victoria's Secret all day today like it

2550
02:29:53,640 --> 02:29:56,640
Speaker 4: ain't nothing. I don't understand that. I don't understand. I

2551
02:29:56,760 --> 02:30:00,240
Speaker 4: just can still have Victoria's Secret after you know it

2552
02:30:00,400 --> 02:30:03,360
Speaker 4: was hush of penophilia, and yet it is some kind

2553
02:30:03,400 --> 02:30:05,400
Speaker 4: of cold. I don't know what planet Polk it is,

2554
02:30:05,800 --> 02:30:07,360
Speaker 4: but yes, another one.

2555
02:30:07,400 --> 02:30:08,400
Speaker 3: I've been saying, Carl.

2556
02:30:09,000 --> 02:30:11,160
Speaker 4: We can only know so much of the truth, so

2557
02:30:11,320 --> 02:30:14,520
Speaker 4: I can only speak intelligently about the little that we know,

2558
02:30:14,879 --> 02:30:17,520
Speaker 4: but on my half is never going to be cold, wouldn't.

2559
02:30:17,879 --> 02:30:20,040
Speaker 1: So let me interrupt you a second to here, doctor Tesse,

2560
02:30:20,120 --> 02:30:21,760
Speaker 1: you're saying you don't think we we're ever going to

2561
02:30:21,800 --> 02:30:24,360
Speaker 1: see all the Epstein files? Is that what you're telling us?

2562
02:30:25,040 --> 02:30:27,840
Speaker 4: I don't think we're gonna see all the trials. I

2563
02:30:27,879 --> 02:30:34,240
Speaker 4: think anything that is really uh, you know, incriminating of

2564
02:30:34,480 --> 02:30:40,199
Speaker 4: Trump has been blacked out. About cam Bondy, We've seen

2565
02:30:40,240 --> 02:30:43,160
Speaker 4: that Trump's white is deeply implicated, and yet they acting

2566
02:30:43,280 --> 02:30:45,240
Speaker 4: like See the Innocent and he need to put out

2567
02:30:45,400 --> 02:30:49,760
Speaker 4: a new movie that everybody hated. But she apparently was

2568
02:30:49,840 --> 02:30:53,879
Speaker 4: tied to Epstein before truth was really mean. I mean,

2569
02:30:54,080 --> 02:30:57,400
Speaker 4: why go with Trump in a in a in a

2570
02:30:57,480 --> 02:31:01,760
Speaker 4: great yard, in a gold course with no headstone, some

2571
02:31:02,000 --> 02:31:05,280
Speaker 4: allegedly falling down the steps on Trump's watch? Why are

2572
02:31:05,360 --> 02:31:09,920
Speaker 4: so many people dying around Trump? And this e same thing.

2573
02:31:11,320 --> 02:31:16,760
Speaker 4: The congressman and Republican Congressman Messy just yesterday put out

2574
02:31:16,760 --> 02:31:23,840
Speaker 4: a statement. He good, I'm healthy, I'm not suicidal. I'm

2575
02:31:24,000 --> 02:31:27,280
Speaker 4: trained with guns. So if somebody killed me in the

2576
02:31:27,320 --> 02:31:29,680
Speaker 4: next two days of once, I will note with murder,

2577
02:31:29,920 --> 02:31:34,080
Speaker 4: that's a walk call. That's the congressman, the lead Republican

2578
02:31:34,360 --> 02:31:37,800
Speaker 4: who's working with Bokana to get all of this data out,

2579
02:31:38,120 --> 02:31:42,959
Speaker 4: even wrong us that his life is under threat, and

2580
02:31:43,040 --> 02:31:47,200
Speaker 4: he told me this yesterday. It's not assume somebody killed me.

2581
02:31:47,920 --> 02:31:52,480
Speaker 4: They're talking about baby Paul being murdered and found in

2582
02:31:52,520 --> 02:31:56,520
Speaker 4: Lake Michigan. They're talking about little girls that have brawn

2583
02:31:56,600 --> 02:32:01,640
Speaker 4: off and little ball wait or disappeared like and call again.

2584
02:32:01,760 --> 02:32:02,440
Speaker 11: This is how deep.

2585
02:32:04,760 --> 02:32:10,560
Speaker 4: They go back to John Bannae Ramsey. That's how this is.

2586
02:32:12,400 --> 02:32:12,520
Speaker 3: Right.

2587
02:32:13,320 --> 02:32:16,360
Speaker 1: Hold up, all right there, doctor Taylor, because we again

2588
02:32:16,480 --> 02:32:19,320
Speaker 1: deep this morning, family, on this President's Day, sixteen after

2589
02:32:19,320 --> 02:32:20,920
Speaker 1: the top, they only come back. Tell us if you

2590
02:32:20,920 --> 02:32:22,760
Speaker 1: think this is going to impact the elections? Though? Do

2591
02:32:22,800 --> 02:32:24,640
Speaker 1: you think the American people are concerned? Do you think

2592
02:32:24,680 --> 02:32:27,360
Speaker 1: they're they're you know, Donald Trumper said, tell them to

2593
02:32:27,400 --> 02:32:30,959
Speaker 1: forget Epstein. It's nothing to it. It's nothing Burger, as

2594
02:32:30,959 --> 02:32:33,840
Speaker 1: his son would say. Do you think this will impact

2595
02:32:33,840 --> 02:32:35,760
Speaker 1: the elections? Do you think the American people still have

2596
02:32:35,800 --> 02:32:38,840
Speaker 1: an appetise? He's still yearning to find out what's in

2597
02:32:38,840 --> 02:32:41,240
Speaker 1: that file, Who is there, who are they protecting. I'll

2598
02:32:41,320 --> 02:32:43,120
Speaker 1: let you explain that when we get back. Family is

2599
02:32:43,160 --> 02:32:45,440
Speaker 1: just checking in. Our guest is doctor James Taylor, teaches

2600
02:32:45,840 --> 02:32:48,040
Speaker 1: a political science the University of San Francisco, one of

2601
02:32:48,080 --> 02:32:49,720
Speaker 1: the best teachers out there on the West Coast. The

2602
02:32:50,080 --> 02:32:52,440
Speaker 1: students pilot to get to hear what he's got to say.

2603
02:32:52,480 --> 02:32:54,800
Speaker 1: It's a black politics expert. He's breaking it down first,

2604
02:32:54,840 --> 02:32:57,280
Speaker 1: what the Epstein files mean to the elections. We're also

2605
02:32:57,320 --> 02:32:59,720
Speaker 1: going to talk about, of course, Jasmine Crockett, Big race.

2606
02:32:59,760 --> 02:33:01,960
Speaker 1: Every bodies watching this is going to take place in

2607
02:33:03,000 --> 02:33:05,360
Speaker 1: Texas tomorrow, senatorial race. What are your thoughts? You want

2608
02:33:05,360 --> 02:33:07,760
Speaker 1: to jump in on this conversation, reach out to us

2609
02:33:07,760 --> 02:33:10,920
Speaker 1: at eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight seventy

2610
02:33:10,959 --> 02:33:13,280
Speaker 1: six and we'll take your phone calls. Next and Grand

2611
02:33:13,360 --> 02:33:15,760
Speaker 1: Rising Family Fashion rolling with us on this Monday morning

2612
02:33:15,760 --> 02:33:17,800
Speaker 1: Fashion starting your week with us at twenty minutes after

2613
02:33:17,800 --> 02:33:20,039
Speaker 1: the top of that with our guest, doctor James Taylor.

2614
02:33:20,080 --> 02:33:21,680
Speaker 1: As I mentioned, he teachers at the University of San

2615
02:33:21,720 --> 02:33:26,199
Speaker 1: Francisco political science profession is also a black politics expert.

2616
02:33:26,440 --> 02:33:29,000
Speaker 1: Eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight to seventy six.

2617
02:33:29,120 --> 02:33:32,000
Speaker 1: Speak to him online. One Doctor Hakey is calling us

2618
02:33:32,000 --> 02:33:34,840
Speaker 1: from Baltimore. That's a question for doctor Taylor, grand rising

2619
02:33:34,959 --> 02:33:36,880
Speaker 1: doctor Hakey on doctor James Taylor.

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02:33:37,760 --> 02:33:41,080
Speaker 12: Yes, grand rising to your brother, Carl, And I get

2621
02:33:41,080 --> 02:33:44,440
Speaker 12: excited when I hear doctor Taylor on brother, So I

2622
02:33:44,440 --> 02:33:52,440
Speaker 12: always appreciate his excellent wisdom. Two things earlier you spoke about,

2623
02:33:52,480 --> 02:33:55,440
Speaker 12: you know, the Garbyism, and you know there's just this

2624
02:33:55,640 --> 02:33:58,680
Speaker 12: apathy amongst many black men. I've tried to get I mean,

2625
02:33:58,720 --> 02:34:01,400
Speaker 12: we like a Houri from DC. I've tried to get

2626
02:34:01,600 --> 02:34:05,280
Speaker 12: some groups of brothers to you know, take some one

2627
02:34:05,360 --> 02:34:08,959
Speaker 12: or two young men to the CBC. You know, even

2628
02:34:09,040 --> 02:34:14,200
Speaker 12: when another business conference, George Fraser conference was at the Gaylord,

2629
02:34:14,320 --> 02:34:17,760
Speaker 12: they didn't show up. Then I'm gonna make it practical

2630
02:34:17,800 --> 02:34:22,440
Speaker 12: to Epstein. Now let me just one thing. You know,

2631
02:34:22,560 --> 02:34:27,280
Speaker 12: in Baltimore there's a you know, a senate race and

2632
02:34:27,480 --> 02:34:29,760
Speaker 12: there's a Jewish woman. Now let me just you know,

2633
02:34:29,879 --> 02:34:33,400
Speaker 12: I went to like a you know, a recent documentary

2634
02:34:33,959 --> 02:34:36,600
Speaker 12: that was shown about Blacks and Jews in the civil

2635
02:34:36,680 --> 02:34:39,320
Speaker 12: rights movement. So I learned a lot, you know, so

2636
02:34:39,680 --> 02:34:42,480
Speaker 12: you know, I stay opened up to listening. So you

2637
02:34:42,560 --> 02:34:46,880
Speaker 12: made some key points as well. But there's a a

2638
02:34:47,000 --> 02:34:52,360
Speaker 12: Jewish female senator that was that's under indictment. And you know,

2639
02:34:52,480 --> 02:34:54,600
Speaker 12: and it's it's really detailed. I'd love to send you

2640
02:34:54,680 --> 02:34:59,039
Speaker 12: some information. But her name is Dahlia Tar and she

2641
02:34:59,160 --> 02:35:03,360
Speaker 12: did they did some spying on some political operatives that

2642
02:35:03,440 --> 02:35:08,160
Speaker 12: were favorite to her or you know. But and they

2643
02:35:08,360 --> 02:35:14,920
Speaker 12: put like, uh something about cameras and smoke detectors, and

2644
02:35:15,320 --> 02:35:17,440
Speaker 12: you know, I mean, it just made me think about

2645
02:35:17,480 --> 02:35:21,840
Speaker 12: how and some one other persons were affiliated via Israel

2646
02:35:23,360 --> 02:35:26,879
Speaker 12: via citizenship, and it just makes me feel that, you know,

2647
02:35:27,320 --> 02:35:30,800
Speaker 12: outside of all this other stuff that's going on, that

2648
02:35:31,160 --> 02:35:35,840
Speaker 12: you know, some people get these philosophies and opinions of

2649
02:35:35,879 --> 02:35:39,560
Speaker 12: how they moved politically here in the United States, you know.

2650
02:35:39,800 --> 02:35:42,439
Speaker 12: So I just wanted to make you know, those connections

2651
02:35:42,440 --> 02:35:45,880
Speaker 12: because you know, not to be conspiracy theorists, but somewhere

2652
02:35:45,879 --> 02:35:49,520
Speaker 12: along line, people think that they are above the law,

2653
02:35:50,400 --> 02:35:53,360
Speaker 12: you know, in America. So thank you very much, that's

2654
02:35:53,360 --> 02:35:53,879
Speaker 12: all I say.

2655
02:35:53,920 --> 02:35:54,240
Speaker 2: Thank you.

2656
02:35:54,480 --> 02:35:58,480
Speaker 4: Well, you know, and people look at Israel's role they

2657
02:35:58,520 --> 02:36:02,680
Speaker 4: believe in Remember it attacked the United States during the

2658
02:36:03,240 --> 02:36:07,360
Speaker 4: sixties and took out a United States airplane. This is

2659
02:36:07,360 --> 02:36:10,840
Speaker 4: all during the Cuban missile crisis with Castro and Cuba,

2660
02:36:12,000 --> 02:36:16,200
Speaker 4: APAC took out BRU Bowman from Congress. APAC took out

2661
02:36:16,280 --> 02:36:23,000
Speaker 4: Corey Bush. That money is targeting black politicians who don't

2662
02:36:23,720 --> 02:36:28,160
Speaker 4: tow the line. And so again, there are people at

2663
02:36:28,200 --> 02:36:30,840
Speaker 4: war with us. But if we acknowledge it, we're the

2664
02:36:30,920 --> 02:36:33,880
Speaker 4: anti dem they're at war with us. But if we

2665
02:36:33,920 --> 02:36:36,440
Speaker 4: say they're at war with us by taking out our

2666
02:36:36,480 --> 02:36:40,200
Speaker 4: black politicians with APAC money, we are anti Semitics. We

2667
02:36:40,240 --> 02:36:42,600
Speaker 4: got to shut up and let them take out our politicians.

2668
02:36:42,920 --> 02:36:45,960
Speaker 4: That's a game of plan. They taking out our people.

2669
02:36:46,280 --> 02:36:48,480
Speaker 4: You gotta be quiet about it, or we will say

2670
02:36:48,520 --> 02:36:51,400
Speaker 4: you're anti Jewish. And I know the history of anti

2671
02:36:51,440 --> 02:36:54,800
Speaker 4: Semitism and anti Jewishness, and they're not the same thing.

2672
02:36:55,160 --> 02:36:59,120
Speaker 4: I know the difference between anti Jewishness and anti Semitism.

2673
02:36:59,360 --> 02:37:02,640
Speaker 4: One is religion, just one is political. And I don't

2674
02:37:02,680 --> 02:37:05,199
Speaker 4: have time to break that down. But let's be clear.

2675
02:37:06,160 --> 02:37:11,120
Speaker 4: This includes Penn State University. The publisher of my book

2676
02:37:11,440 --> 02:37:15,680
Speaker 4: is Penn State. Carl. This goes back to Joe Paterno

2677
02:37:15,800 --> 02:37:19,680
Speaker 4: and the coach Sandusky. This goes back to those kids

2678
02:37:19,959 --> 02:37:23,440
Speaker 4: that he's victimized at Penn State. They were roughly white

2679
02:37:23,480 --> 02:37:27,320
Speaker 4: men who were all protected and all of those black kids,

2680
02:37:27,480 --> 02:37:31,160
Speaker 4: all those kids at Penn State were poor minority children.

2681
02:37:32,000 --> 02:37:35,720
Speaker 4: They never told us that this was white men predating

2682
02:37:35,840 --> 02:37:38,840
Speaker 4: on black children at Penn State. But if you read

2683
02:37:39,160 --> 02:37:43,760
Speaker 4: the four lines at Penn State, you can tell these

2684
02:37:43,760 --> 02:37:48,440
Speaker 4: were poor black children, Paul Latino children that these white

2685
02:37:48,520 --> 02:37:53,879
Speaker 4: men at Penn State, ties of Pennsylvania politics did. So

2686
02:37:54,000 --> 02:37:57,600
Speaker 4: let's get back to Penn State. Carl think about it.

2687
02:37:57,720 --> 02:38:01,640
Speaker 4: I let do we know about Sandusky and the Penn

2688
02:38:01,720 --> 02:38:06,480
Speaker 4: State sight scandal. None. We know that he went to jail,

2689
02:38:07,200 --> 02:38:09,640
Speaker 4: and it was as if he did it all by himself.

2690
02:38:10,680 --> 02:38:15,480
Speaker 4: We'd see Ohio State, the doctor who was victimizing women

2691
02:38:15,600 --> 02:38:19,320
Speaker 4: for twenty five years got an email from Epstein the

2692
02:38:19,440 --> 02:38:25,360
Speaker 4: day before Epstein dies talking about Trump. Ostein told this

2693
02:38:25,480 --> 02:38:28,680
Speaker 4: doctor at Ohio State, Trump is the worst person he's

2694
02:38:28,680 --> 02:38:31,160
Speaker 4: ever met, and he's met a lot of evil people.

2695
02:38:31,520 --> 02:38:35,720
Speaker 4: So here are two predators, Jessey Epstein and the doctor

2696
02:38:35,959 --> 02:38:39,560
Speaker 4: from Ohio State. University would go back to the congressman

2697
02:38:40,560 --> 02:38:43,840
Speaker 4: Jim whatever his name is, who was tied to the

2698
02:38:43,840 --> 02:38:48,560
Speaker 4: wrestling coach at Ohio State. This called to Michigan, the

2699
02:38:48,640 --> 02:38:51,720
Speaker 4: University of Michigan. This not being at USC where I

2700
02:38:51,760 --> 02:38:56,360
Speaker 4: went to college in grad school. So USC, Michigan, Penn State,

2701
02:38:57,560 --> 02:39:00,360
Speaker 4: Ohio State. All of those crews had met at just

2702
02:39:00,440 --> 02:39:04,720
Speaker 4: sex scandals where the physicians of the athletic departments were.

2703
02:39:05,480 --> 02:39:10,480
Speaker 4: They can sit the other students. So you can't erase

2704
02:39:10,600 --> 02:39:14,720
Speaker 4: good Steet from the Epstein conversation because these are the

2705
02:39:14,760 --> 02:39:18,600
Speaker 4: same one the viting men, Stan Dusky, what did that

2706
02:39:18,680 --> 02:39:22,400
Speaker 4: sound like to you? What did that sound like to you?

2707
02:39:22,720 --> 02:39:24,600
Speaker 1: Well, let me jump in here at twenty seven out

2708
02:39:24,480 --> 02:39:26,400
Speaker 1: at the top of the ore. Is this because tomorrow

2709
02:39:26,400 --> 02:39:28,080
Speaker 1: is the people are going to be watching this race.

2710
02:39:28,080 --> 02:39:32,160
Speaker 1: So I'm talking about Jasmine Crockett. She's run against James

2711
02:39:32,200 --> 02:39:35,440
Speaker 1: Tallerico if in the Texas primary, and they say that

2712
02:39:35,480 --> 02:39:38,000
Speaker 1: she's doing real well. Because you mentioned a PAK, I'm

2713
02:39:38,000 --> 02:39:39,520
Speaker 1: just wondering if a pack do you think a PAK

2714
02:39:39,600 --> 02:39:41,880
Speaker 1: is gonna get involved in this race? Because she's doing

2715
02:39:41,879 --> 02:39:44,280
Speaker 1: real well with black voters. But the question is will

2716
02:39:44,320 --> 02:39:47,320
Speaker 1: the black folks turn out, especially in the major cities

2717
02:39:47,320 --> 02:39:49,800
Speaker 1: in Texas, Dallas, Fort Worth are stay in the l

2718
02:39:49,840 --> 02:39:53,039
Speaker 1: Passa all the big cities. But taller Riga's doing well

2719
02:39:53,080 --> 02:39:57,720
Speaker 1: with Hispanics and whites. Do you think if she crosses it,

2720
02:39:57,760 --> 02:39:59,400
Speaker 1: do you think a PAK will get involved? In this

2721
02:39:59,480 --> 02:40:02,280
Speaker 1: race when it's because we generally don't know until race

2722
02:40:02,400 --> 02:40:04,080
Speaker 1: is over, and this is going to take place tomorrow.

2723
02:40:04,200 --> 02:40:07,320
Speaker 4: Of course they're of course they're involved invisibly in through

2724
02:40:07,480 --> 02:40:10,920
Speaker 4: third parties. But here's the deal. After what we saw

2725
02:40:11,280 --> 02:40:15,680
Speaker 4: after the October seventh retaliation by Israel, Israel has lost

2726
02:40:15,720 --> 02:40:19,440
Speaker 4: all moral credibility. All of the credibility that Israel had

2727
02:40:19,720 --> 02:40:22,760
Speaker 4: in terms of their own history in Europe has been

2728
02:40:23,120 --> 02:40:27,720
Speaker 4: spent on the GNO side. So Apak is now a

2729
02:40:27,760 --> 02:40:31,959
Speaker 4: scarll it letter in this politician who's a Democrat who's

2730
02:40:32,000 --> 02:40:39,320
Speaker 4: taking a PAC money is now being primary Bernie and

2731
02:40:38,840 --> 02:40:44,160
Speaker 4: the Democratic Socialists of America are trying to niche their

2732
02:40:44,800 --> 02:40:49,879
Speaker 4: hobos in the democratic spaces. Bernie is calling for people

2733
02:40:50,120 --> 02:40:57,160
Speaker 4: to oppose big corporate donor receiving candidates. So again, if

2734
02:40:57,200 --> 02:41:00,320
Speaker 4: you're taking a PAC money three years ago, you can

2735
02:41:00,400 --> 02:41:03,200
Speaker 4: get away with it. If you're taking a PAC money today,

2736
02:41:03,560 --> 02:41:06,760
Speaker 4: your opponent is gonna mention it, and it's a bad thing.

2737
02:41:06,840 --> 02:41:10,720
Speaker 4: Now it's not neutral anymore. Take a PAC money is

2738
02:41:10,800 --> 02:41:15,440
Speaker 4: hitting Bardy money. So and the Democrats need to purge

2739
02:41:15,480 --> 02:41:19,560
Speaker 4: themselves of all these Bill Clinton type Democratic centrists and

2740
02:41:19,640 --> 02:41:24,280
Speaker 4: get back to some fd R LBJ Democratic Progressives and

2741
02:41:24,280 --> 02:41:27,240
Speaker 4: that's the real fight that's going on in the Democratic Party.

2742
02:41:27,480 --> 02:41:30,800
Speaker 4: And Desmond is up by ten points. She will probably

2743
02:41:30,840 --> 02:41:34,640
Speaker 4: win on Tuesday. Then she's gotta win against the Republican

2744
02:41:34,879 --> 02:41:38,920
Speaker 4: in November, and that is just changing. I mean, Texas

2745
02:41:39,040 --> 02:41:41,800
Speaker 4: is purple. Even though you got the governor, you know

2746
02:41:41,840 --> 02:41:47,440
Speaker 4: you had padel O'Rourke run well. At the Senate level,

2747
02:41:47,879 --> 02:41:50,680
Speaker 4: I think you know Ted Cruz is a thing of

2748
02:41:50,720 --> 02:41:56,000
Speaker 4: the past. James Cornying is his seat and he's gotta run.

2749
02:41:56,080 --> 02:41:59,400
Speaker 4: He's being primary. So they are really a couple of

2750
02:41:59,400 --> 02:42:02,240
Speaker 4: things going on. The Democrats are having a civil war

2751
02:42:02,320 --> 02:42:06,280
Speaker 4: amongst themselves and the Republicans are having a civil war

2752
02:42:06,360 --> 02:42:10,880
Speaker 4: amongst themselves. And APAC money is on both sides. But

2753
02:42:10,920 --> 02:42:13,720
Speaker 4: the difference is now you can't take APAC money. So

2754
02:42:13,959 --> 02:42:17,080
Speaker 4: Javelin Crockett a taking no APAC money that is now

2755
02:42:17,160 --> 02:42:20,480
Speaker 4: working for her. If she took APAC money, she would

2756
02:42:20,640 --> 02:42:24,480
Speaker 4: have no credibility on anything she's talking about. So Javelin

2757
02:42:24,600 --> 02:42:29,080
Speaker 4: is in great shape. And an APAC, like the NRA,

2758
02:42:29,520 --> 02:42:34,520
Speaker 4: has been around for decades sneakily influencing American politics. They

2759
02:42:34,640 --> 02:42:39,320
Speaker 4: run the Pentagon. APAC runs the Pentagon. They even said

2760
02:42:39,640 --> 02:42:43,840
Speaker 4: Massade goes into the Pentagon on nine to eleven and

2761
02:42:43,920 --> 02:42:47,560
Speaker 4: took over the whole building, took over the CIA over

2762
02:42:47,720 --> 02:42:52,720
Speaker 4: nine to eleven, into palanoid politics called I don't like

2763
02:42:52,800 --> 02:42:56,959
Speaker 4: talking about stuff I can't confirm as a political scientist

2764
02:42:57,040 --> 02:43:00,120
Speaker 4: or a social scientist. But we're living in the to

2765
02:43:00,280 --> 02:43:04,119
Speaker 4: that age now where half the truth is now confused

2766
02:43:04,440 --> 02:43:09,080
Speaker 4: with just the madness of opinions. But all who.

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02:43:08,959 --> 02:43:12,000
Speaker 1: I saw there at thirty minutes half of Saladay. Let

2768
02:43:12,000 --> 02:43:13,920
Speaker 1: me ask you this because we mentioned Jasmine Crownett her

2769
02:43:13,959 --> 02:43:18,400
Speaker 1: racist tomorrow in Saint Louis, so Corey Bush. APAC funded

2770
02:43:18,879 --> 02:43:21,600
Speaker 1: a black person to run against Corey Bush, and he won,

2771
02:43:22,120 --> 02:43:24,240
Speaker 1: and they're still in the game. He's got a lot

2772
02:43:24,240 --> 02:43:26,080
Speaker 1: of money from APAC. How do you see how do

2773
02:43:26,080 --> 02:43:26,840
Speaker 1: you see that race?

2774
02:43:28,320 --> 02:43:28,879
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2775
02:43:28,920 --> 02:43:31,080
Speaker 4: You know, I honestly, I'll be honest and tell you

2776
02:43:31,080 --> 02:43:33,560
Speaker 4: I've sent money to Corey Bush because I want her

2777
02:43:33,560 --> 02:43:37,920
Speaker 4: to win. Support her. I believe she's authentically, legitimately black,

2778
02:43:37,959 --> 02:43:42,200
Speaker 4: coming from the Mike Brown protests, She's the real deal

2779
02:43:42,240 --> 02:43:44,880
Speaker 4: that we as black people need to put our money behind.

2780
02:43:45,080 --> 02:43:48,120
Speaker 4: No matter what APAK is doing, we need to be

2781
02:43:48,240 --> 02:43:52,680
Speaker 4: putting money behind our own people. We got money. Everybody

2782
02:43:52,720 --> 02:43:54,520
Speaker 4: can put fifty dollars, twenty dollars. You can give the

2783
02:43:54,600 --> 02:43:57,480
Speaker 4: church money every Sunday. Why can't you put some money

2784
02:43:57,680 --> 02:44:01,800
Speaker 4: behind since the dathline, Crockett's campaign or Corey Bush's campaign

2785
02:44:02,080 --> 02:44:04,680
Speaker 4: when you know they're being targeted by white people that

2786
02:44:04,800 --> 02:44:08,280
Speaker 4: hate us. So anytime I get a chance, if I

2787
02:44:08,320 --> 02:44:11,360
Speaker 4: see a black politician saying what I believe is like,

2788
02:44:11,400 --> 02:44:14,040
Speaker 4: I would send money to Uncle Luke because I believe

2789
02:44:14,120 --> 02:44:17,800
Speaker 4: in his campaign, and I'm not hypocritical about Stephen A. Smith.

2790
02:44:17,840 --> 02:44:21,400
Speaker 4: The difference is this, Luke is showing respect. He's running

2791
02:44:21,440 --> 02:44:24,160
Speaker 4: at the local level where he is well known and

2792
02:44:24,200 --> 02:44:28,720
Speaker 4: he knows the issues in Florida. Luke could be influential

2793
02:44:29,040 --> 02:44:32,440
Speaker 4: because he is running where the people are. Stephen A.

2794
02:44:32,560 --> 02:44:36,600
Speaker 4: Smith arrogance is that he could be president. Let me

2795
02:44:36,720 --> 02:44:39,600
Speaker 4: think about it. Luke is running in Florida because that's

2796
02:44:39,640 --> 02:44:43,880
Speaker 4: where he can impact people's lives. And I'm not being hypocritical,

2797
02:44:44,120 --> 02:44:47,760
Speaker 4: all right, support Luke. I condemned Stephen A. Smith because

2798
02:44:47,800 --> 02:44:51,240
Speaker 4: Stephen A. Smith is just running and hoping that he

2799
02:44:51,240 --> 02:44:54,800
Speaker 4: can get lucky like Trump and win. When Luke is

2800
02:44:54,879 --> 02:45:00,040
Speaker 4: running seriously representing a small congressional district where he you

2801
02:45:00,040 --> 02:45:02,480
Speaker 4: can go knock on the doors and talk to people.

2802
02:45:02,760 --> 02:45:05,360
Speaker 4: Stephen They shild don't know nobody but a bunch of

2803
02:45:05,560 --> 02:45:08,720
Speaker 4: rich Jewish men surrounding him wherever he goes.

2804
02:45:08,879 --> 02:45:10,880
Speaker 1: But don tell let me interrupre and asking this though,

2805
02:45:10,920 --> 02:45:13,320
Speaker 1: do you think Stephen A really wants to win? Do

2806
02:45:13,320 --> 02:45:15,360
Speaker 1: you think he's just there to peel off the votes

2807
02:45:15,800 --> 02:45:19,560
Speaker 1: from Democrats? Is that the playing the game?

2808
02:45:20,040 --> 02:45:22,440
Speaker 4: And yes they are trying to use any kind of

2809
02:45:23,240 --> 02:45:26,000
Speaker 4: like Nicki Minaj and steven A. Smith are the same phenomena,

2810
02:45:26,360 --> 02:45:28,640
Speaker 4: a black distraction. But let me just get back to

2811
02:45:28,680 --> 02:45:31,080
Speaker 4: your point on the midterms before, because we've been out

2812
02:45:31,080 --> 02:45:35,199
Speaker 4: of time soon. The midterms always hurt the president in power.

2813
02:45:35,400 --> 02:45:38,879
Speaker 4: When Obama was INAD eight to ten, the key body

2814
02:45:38,920 --> 02:45:41,400
Speaker 4: rolls upon him and Trump rose upon him with the

2815
02:45:41,400 --> 02:45:45,800
Speaker 4: Birthday Movement, and Obama suffered a record defeat in twenty

2816
02:45:45,879 --> 02:45:49,400
Speaker 4: ten at the midterms. He never fully recovers, even though

2817
02:45:49,440 --> 02:45:53,080
Speaker 4: he wins again in twenty twelve. Obama's presidency was over

2818
02:45:53,280 --> 02:45:56,920
Speaker 4: two in twenty ten. He never recovered. There's nothing you

2819
02:45:57,000 --> 02:45:59,520
Speaker 4: can talking about that Obama did in the second term

2820
02:45:59,720 --> 02:46:03,760
Speaker 4: except day recognition, trans recognition, and Cuban recognition.

2821
02:46:04,000 --> 02:46:04,320
Speaker 6: That's it.

2822
02:46:05,240 --> 02:46:07,440
Speaker 4: Other than that, Obama didn't do much of anything in

2823
02:46:07,480 --> 02:46:09,880
Speaker 4: the second term because he was weakened by that midterm.

2824
02:46:10,200 --> 02:46:17,520
Speaker 4: Also in twenty let's see twenty eighteen. When Trump won

2825
02:46:17,560 --> 02:46:21,800
Speaker 4: in twenty sixteen, he suffered worse than Obama in twenty

2826
02:46:22,200 --> 02:46:28,760
Speaker 4: eighteen midterms. The president administration that sets in power during

2827
02:46:28,760 --> 02:46:33,680
Speaker 4: a midterm always loses twenty five seats. The Democrats only

2828
02:46:33,680 --> 02:46:36,680
Speaker 4: need about three seats right now, so the Republicans are

2829
02:46:36,760 --> 02:46:41,520
Speaker 4: definitely going to lose in the normal political science cycle.

2830
02:46:42,520 --> 02:46:44,160
Speaker 4: You know, Trump is by yea, yeah.

2831
02:46:44,000 --> 02:46:46,000
Speaker 1: But but doc, I got to interrupt here again and

2832
02:46:46,080 --> 02:46:48,600
Speaker 1: ask you this question though. But they're making moves to

2833
02:46:48,640 --> 02:46:52,600
Speaker 1: suppress the voters. In fact, you know voter identification, you

2834
02:46:52,640 --> 02:46:55,400
Speaker 1: know about with women who were married and probably divorced,

2835
02:46:55,640 --> 02:46:57,800
Speaker 1: and if they don't have have the papers to show

2836
02:46:57,800 --> 02:47:00,160
Speaker 1: that they change their name back to their birthday or whatever,

2837
02:47:00,320 --> 02:47:03,360
Speaker 1: they're not gonna be able to vote that And what's

2838
02:47:03,400 --> 02:47:05,320
Speaker 1: your name? Norma said that she's gonna make sure the

2839
02:47:05,440 --> 02:47:07,920
Speaker 1: right people vote for the right people. So they're doing

2840
02:47:08,000 --> 02:47:10,200
Speaker 1: all kinds. They didn't they didn't do that as far

2841
02:47:10,240 --> 02:47:12,360
Speaker 1: as we know, and they may have done in Obama's days,

2842
02:47:12,440 --> 02:47:15,160
Speaker 1: but this is what they're planning for the for their midterms.

2843
02:47:15,440 --> 02:47:17,720
Speaker 1: Your thoughts Since.

2844
02:47:17,520 --> 02:47:20,920
Speaker 4: The midterm, I mean since the twenty twenty four elections,

2845
02:47:21,560 --> 02:47:26,080
Speaker 4: they've been twenty nine special elections. The record is twenty

2846
02:47:26,200 --> 02:47:30,200
Speaker 4: nine in zero. Democrats have won every election since Swump.

2847
02:47:30,440 --> 02:47:33,360
Speaker 4: That is, Oh the hell is he gonna go from

2848
02:47:33,560 --> 02:47:37,640
Speaker 4: twenty nine er right now? All of a sudden winning November,

2849
02:47:38,480 --> 02:47:43,640
Speaker 4: they've lost twenty nine. I mean, they created a deep

2850
02:47:44,280 --> 02:47:49,800
Speaker 4: red Maga seat in Alabama and lost it. They lost

2851
02:47:49,840 --> 02:47:54,120
Speaker 4: in Mississippi, they got assist the running Detroit. They lost

2852
02:47:54,240 --> 02:47:54,880
Speaker 4: my enemy.

2853
02:47:55,600 --> 02:48:00,560
Speaker 1: Come on, Carl, Yeah, I'm glad you said. I'm glad

2854
02:48:00,600 --> 02:48:02,800
Speaker 1: you said that thought. So do you think he'll actually

2855
02:48:02,800 --> 02:48:05,160
Speaker 1: we'll actually have an election if he sees he's gonna lose,

2856
02:48:05,600 --> 02:48:07,920
Speaker 1: He's like the kid who can't play takes the ball.

2857
02:48:08,120 --> 02:48:10,080
Speaker 1: He owns the ball, so he's gonna take the ball

2858
02:48:10,120 --> 02:48:11,959
Speaker 1: on the game over. How do you see that?

2859
02:48:12,280 --> 02:48:15,280
Speaker 4: No, we didn't do is unconstitutional. So the idea of

2860
02:48:15,320 --> 02:48:19,240
Speaker 4: making women have their married names or their birth names

2861
02:48:19,280 --> 02:48:22,959
Speaker 4: on their you know, the famousness of that, it's unconstitutional.

2862
02:48:23,080 --> 02:48:27,240
Speaker 4: That's not understand They tried it in Indiana. What happened?

2863
02:48:27,280 --> 02:48:30,360
Speaker 4: The Indiana legislature said, no, they tried to in Texas.

2864
02:48:30,440 --> 02:48:33,160
Speaker 4: What happened. It didn't work out in Texas. Then they

2865
02:48:33,520 --> 02:48:36,080
Speaker 4: want California to make a move. And even the Supreme

2866
02:48:36,160 --> 02:48:40,560
Speaker 4: Court athlete said, California's vote. Now, Royland's doing it now,

2867
02:48:40,760 --> 02:48:43,720
Speaker 4: Virginia thinking about it. In other words, called what they're

2868
02:48:43,800 --> 02:48:47,640
Speaker 4: doing is that's firing. He didn't run a d I.

2869
02:48:47,720 --> 02:48:51,960
Speaker 4: It's hurting white boys. Mort to anybody run a d

2870
02:48:52,200 --> 02:48:55,840
Speaker 4: I and it's not white people. White people. We don't

2871
02:48:55,840 --> 02:48:58,359
Speaker 4: need to get the I. We don't need your affirmative

2872
02:48:58,360 --> 02:49:02,560
Speaker 4: actions because they know we are those things to try

2873
02:49:02,640 --> 02:49:05,760
Speaker 4: to pretend we want the people we are, but they

2874
02:49:05,800 --> 02:49:09,000
Speaker 4: know we don't need a permative that's in hell, were

2875
02:49:09,120 --> 02:49:12,360
Speaker 4: a permanent bason in California and we still get the country.

2876
02:49:12,400 --> 02:49:16,280
Speaker 4: Kamala Harris as a as a at Tenata, we're not

2877
02:49:16,400 --> 02:49:20,080
Speaker 4: affirmative action. I don't need a firmative action. White people

2878
02:49:20,120 --> 02:49:24,280
Speaker 4: don't need here. White people do. People don't need d

2879
02:49:25,000 --> 02:49:25,840
Speaker 4: white people do.

2880
02:49:28,000 --> 02:49:29,680
Speaker 1: And hold I thought right there, we gotta step aside

2881
02:49:29,680 --> 02:49:31,240
Speaker 1: for a few moments for our last break. I'll let

2882
02:49:31,240 --> 02:49:32,520
Speaker 1: you pick it up on the other side, we canna

2883
02:49:32,520 --> 02:49:34,440
Speaker 1: see whot some folks want to talk to you family.

2884
02:49:34,480 --> 02:49:37,160
Speaker 1: Our guess is doctor James Taylor teaches a political science

2885
02:49:37,200 --> 02:49:40,039
Speaker 1: of the University of San Francisco. He's a black politic experts.

2886
02:49:40,040 --> 02:49:41,840
Speaker 1: You want to get in on this conversation, just reach

2887
02:49:41,879 --> 02:49:43,879
Speaker 1: out to us at eight hundred four or five zero

2888
02:49:44,360 --> 02:49:47,160
Speaker 1: seventy eight seventy six and we'll taket phone calls next.

2889
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Speaker 1: Thank grand Rising family fans are starting your Monday with us,

2890
02:49:49,879 --> 02:49:51,760
Speaker 1: starting your week with us for that matter, at nineteen

2891
02:49:51,800 --> 02:49:53,600
Speaker 1: minutes away from the top. They are with doctor James

2892
02:49:53,640 --> 02:49:55,959
Speaker 1: Taylor from the University of San Francisco. Before we go

2893
02:49:56,000 --> 02:49:57,680
Speaker 1: back to let me just remind you corn Uple later

2894
02:49:57,720 --> 02:50:01,440
Speaker 1: this week and hear from natural Paddock and traditional doctor

2895
02:50:01,520 --> 02:50:05,240
Speaker 1: doctor A will be here. Also the educator and also author,

2896
02:50:05,280 --> 02:50:08,080
Speaker 1: doctor Kevin Shockley would join us. So remember remember to

2897
02:50:08,160 --> 02:50:10,520
Speaker 1: keep your radio locked in tight on ten ten WLB

2898
02:50:10,760 --> 02:50:12,800
Speaker 1: if you are in Baltimore, if you're in the Washington,

2899
02:50:12,920 --> 02:50:16,200
Speaker 1: DC era, or on fourteen fifty w L. Doctor tayl

2900
02:50:16,240 --> 02:50:18,080
Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to ask you this about that

2901
02:50:18,080 --> 02:50:21,600
Speaker 1: that that caricature that Donald Trump posted about the Obamas.

2902
02:50:21,800 --> 02:50:23,280
Speaker 1: I want to get your thoughts of that. And also

2903
02:50:23,320 --> 02:50:26,320
Speaker 1: the backdrop that Tim Scott and also Kamla Harris said

2904
02:50:26,360 --> 02:50:29,240
Speaker 1: that the America is not a racist country. Do you

2905
02:50:29,240 --> 02:50:30,600
Speaker 1: think that changes their minds?

2906
02:50:32,800 --> 02:50:34,840
Speaker 4: That's a game. Anybody that says that he is lying

2907
02:50:34,920 --> 02:50:38,279
Speaker 4: to you to your face. Who is Nicky Nimmarada Hayley?

2908
02:50:38,480 --> 02:50:42,119
Speaker 4: Remember her? Her name is nim Rada Uh? Like Bobby Jindahl.

2909
02:50:42,200 --> 02:50:47,280
Speaker 4: Ain't Bobby Uh? Where? Where is where is Nicky Haley?

2910
02:50:47,440 --> 02:50:49,680
Speaker 4: Since she's the loud one? And Tim Scott said it?

2911
02:50:49,879 --> 02:50:55,720
Speaker 4: Even the Supreme Court Roberts said this, and also what's

2912
02:50:55,720 --> 02:50:59,480
Speaker 4: her name? The one that died, the well respected Supreme

2913
02:50:59,520 --> 02:51:02,680
Speaker 4: Court just is Sandra Dee O'Connor. She said it before

2914
02:51:02,760 --> 02:51:05,959
Speaker 4: she died. Race is withering away. And yet that was

2915
02:51:06,000 --> 02:51:09,600
Speaker 4: before DLM, that was Fort George Floyd, that was before

2916
02:51:10,240 --> 02:51:13,920
Speaker 4: the Oscar Grant Wyatt, that was before the shooting of

2917
02:51:14,000 --> 02:51:17,480
Speaker 4: Narrio Woods in San Francisco, that was before Sandra Gland

2918
02:51:18,040 --> 02:51:22,400
Speaker 4: in Texas. So these white people have only folk themselves.

2919
02:51:22,520 --> 02:51:26,000
Speaker 4: Race is trivial and has moved away in importance because

2920
02:51:26,000 --> 02:51:28,920
Speaker 4: they don't live with white people, don't live a racial lights.

2921
02:51:29,280 --> 02:51:32,640
Speaker 4: They just live whitely. That's the word whitely. I'm making

2922
02:51:32,760 --> 02:51:35,600
Speaker 4: up a word. Rightly, they live whitely. We don't get

2923
02:51:35,600 --> 02:51:38,400
Speaker 4: to live whitely. They do, so they get to say

2924
02:51:38,440 --> 02:51:42,080
Speaker 4: there's no racism. Like in the old Fault when black

2925
02:51:42,120 --> 02:51:44,920
Speaker 4: people would come down there with snick, the white folk

2926
02:51:45,000 --> 02:51:47,200
Speaker 4: would say, we ain't got no problem around here with

2927
02:51:47,240 --> 02:51:50,560
Speaker 4: our negroes. The black folks can't say a word for

2928
02:51:50,760 --> 02:51:55,520
Speaker 4: fear of reprisal. So again, anytime somebody white is telling

2929
02:51:55,560 --> 02:51:58,280
Speaker 4: you we don't have a race problem, we have a

2930
02:51:58,360 --> 02:52:01,920
Speaker 4: race problem. A white person speaks up and says race

2931
02:52:02,000 --> 02:52:04,880
Speaker 4: is an important it is very important. And I'm saying again.

2932
02:52:05,360 --> 02:52:08,320
Speaker 4: Dane Day O'Connor, in a ruling in the opinion, and

2933
02:52:08,400 --> 02:52:12,120
Speaker 4: later John Roberts in a different opinion, both at the

2934
02:52:12,200 --> 02:52:16,760
Speaker 4: Supreme Court level, argue that race is servial and no

2935
02:52:16,840 --> 02:52:23,000
Speaker 4: longer worthy of any sort of policy protection or constitutional protection.

2936
02:52:23,360 --> 02:52:26,440
Speaker 4: So that's who we are. Unfortunately, I want to get

2937
02:52:26,440 --> 02:52:28,240
Speaker 4: this in before he went out of time. Call the

2938
02:52:28,360 --> 02:52:31,120
Speaker 4: most stocking name I've seen so far on this list

2939
02:52:32,480 --> 02:52:38,720
Speaker 4: other than m Chomski is Walter Konkite. Walter Klonkite is

2940
02:52:38,760 --> 02:52:42,119
Speaker 4: in newspapers, and that to me is devastating to every

2941
02:52:42,120 --> 02:52:45,160
Speaker 4: aspise you're a journalist. You know, even as a black man,

2942
02:52:45,360 --> 02:52:48,920
Speaker 4: how important Walkal Klonkite was in the sixties when when

2943
02:52:49,000 --> 02:52:51,600
Speaker 4: JFK got shot, He's the one that cried and told

2944
02:52:51,720 --> 02:52:54,680
Speaker 4: us Walkal Klonkite was the man you could trust. Remember

2945
02:52:54,840 --> 02:52:57,960
Speaker 4: that's what they said. He's the most sutin man in news.

2946
02:52:58,520 --> 02:53:01,080
Speaker 4: Now we'll find out forty years later he and Nom

2947
02:53:01,200 --> 02:53:07,280
Speaker 4: Chomsky and uh Woody Allen uh who married his own

2948
02:53:07,360 --> 02:53:13,520
Speaker 4: daughter with being there. That to me is shocking that

2949
02:53:14,120 --> 02:53:17,480
Speaker 4: Walter Krinkit is in there. And I guess maybe all

2950
02:53:17,560 --> 02:53:19,720
Speaker 4: the I'm not young no more, but I'm saying all

2951
02:53:19,800 --> 02:53:22,520
Speaker 4: the black folks back in the day would tell me

2952
02:53:22,560 --> 02:53:26,920
Speaker 4: not to be surprised, you know, because you know, public

2953
02:53:26,959 --> 02:53:29,720
Speaker 4: image is one thing, but he people are privately is

2954
02:53:29,800 --> 02:53:33,760
Speaker 4: very different. And we're seeing like he blocked and blocked

2955
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Speaker 4: with the accounts of him in the in the files.

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02:53:37,520 --> 02:53:40,039
Speaker 4: So he was a business waper. She's my language.

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02:53:40,320 --> 02:53:42,280
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, But let me hold you right there, because

2958
02:53:42,360 --> 02:53:44,120
Speaker 1: we have to make a distinction of being in the

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02:53:44,160 --> 02:53:46,440
Speaker 1: files and being there because some of some of the

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02:53:46,440 --> 02:53:50,119
Speaker 1: files can say everything. He may uh uh what's his name?

2961
02:53:50,520 --> 02:53:53,720
Speaker 1: Epstein may have said, uh, do you know Kamala Harris

2962
02:53:53,879 --> 02:53:56,200
Speaker 1: or do you know you know her name if the

2963
02:53:56,280 --> 02:53:58,879
Speaker 1: name pops up, because you're talking about Elvis is in

2964
02:53:58,959 --> 02:54:02,360
Speaker 1: there in the files, and who else Janis Joplin or

2965
02:54:02,360 --> 02:54:03,640
Speaker 1: somebody people who have died.

2966
02:54:05,320 --> 02:54:08,240
Speaker 3: Stevie one is in there as well.

2967
02:54:08,440 --> 02:54:11,280
Speaker 4: Right, and they're saying he was anti Israel because he

2968
02:54:11,320 --> 02:54:13,480
Speaker 4: wouldn't go along with their sickness.

2969
02:54:13,959 --> 02:54:15,720
Speaker 1: Right, you know what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

2970
02:54:16,280 --> 02:54:19,760
Speaker 1: They've they've clouded with all these different names. Uh, you know,

2971
02:54:19,800 --> 02:54:23,160
Speaker 1: Elvis Peciley's in the file. So they're saying, well this

2972
02:54:23,760 --> 02:54:26,400
Speaker 1: if you mentioned Cronkite. So these these folks are okay

2973
02:54:26,440 --> 02:54:28,960
Speaker 1: most people's eyes. So if Trump is in there, can't

2974
02:54:28,959 --> 02:54:31,080
Speaker 1: be that bad. Do you think that that was why

2975
02:54:31,120 --> 02:54:33,520
Speaker 1: they put all these names out of there? Every every

2976
02:54:33,560 --> 02:54:34,560
Speaker 1: person that was mentioned.

2977
02:54:35,720 --> 02:54:37,720
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm going back to Sandusky for a second.

2978
02:54:38,200 --> 02:54:40,520
Speaker 3: What we were not told in.

2979
02:54:40,560 --> 02:54:43,680
Speaker 4: Detail and reports, what we were told initially these could

2980
02:54:43,720 --> 02:54:47,640
Speaker 4: disadvantaged young people, poor people. That's what happened in the Sandusky,

2981
02:54:47,959 --> 02:54:51,280
Speaker 4: uh ben state scandal. And I'm saying to you that's

2982
02:54:51,320 --> 02:54:54,800
Speaker 4: the big thing here other than the demonic evil that

2983
02:54:54,840 --> 02:54:58,119
Speaker 4: we're being told. And again there's a new report by

2984
02:54:58,160 --> 02:55:01,920
Speaker 4: a woman journalist who wrote a report on all of

2985
02:55:01,959 --> 02:55:05,039
Speaker 4: this in twenty seventeen. She says it's worse than she

2986
02:55:05,520 --> 02:55:11,440
Speaker 4: ever thought. We're talking about murder, they talking about cannibalism.

2987
02:55:11,520 --> 02:55:14,520
Speaker 4: That's what they're talking about. The principle of the United States,

2988
02:55:14,680 --> 02:55:18,240
Speaker 4: the powers of the Western world are all tied together

2989
02:55:18,520 --> 02:55:24,080
Speaker 4: in this sickness. And it's poor white girls. That's what

2990
02:55:24,120 --> 02:55:28,360
Speaker 4: they're not telling us in detail. These are poor white

2991
02:55:28,400 --> 02:55:34,080
Speaker 4: girls who they victimized. These weren't middle class, college bound,

2992
02:55:35,959 --> 02:55:40,000
Speaker 4: you know, young girls whose fathers were present, who married

2993
02:55:40,040 --> 02:55:42,279
Speaker 4: their mother and were live in the middle class lifestyle

2994
02:55:42,520 --> 02:55:45,360
Speaker 4: in the suburbs. That's the image we have in our heads.

2995
02:55:45,720 --> 02:55:49,800
Speaker 4: But like in the Sun Dusky Case and Penn State,

2996
02:55:50,320 --> 02:55:54,520
Speaker 4: they predated on the poor. And that's the deep thing

2997
02:55:54,520 --> 02:55:56,080
Speaker 4: about this. It's all deep.

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02:55:56,440 --> 02:55:58,160
Speaker 3: But on top of all of the other.

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Speaker 4: Deep aspects of this world white scandal is that these

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02:56:02,680 --> 02:56:06,840
Speaker 4: are poor people that the rich men are taking advantage of.

3001
02:56:07,280 --> 02:56:10,120
Speaker 4: And that, to me, on top of everything else, is

3002
02:56:10,160 --> 02:56:11,000
Speaker 4: even more evil.

3003
02:56:13,240 --> 02:56:14,840
Speaker 1: You know, let me just add a twelve away from

3004
02:56:14,840 --> 02:56:17,840
Speaker 1: the top of that. Bungino, who was a deputy FBI

3005
02:56:17,959 --> 02:56:20,560
Speaker 1: agent and he uh director and he stepped down because

3006
02:56:20,600 --> 02:56:22,800
Speaker 1: because he had a lot, he saw the Epstein files

3007
02:56:22,920 --> 02:56:24,760
Speaker 1: and it made him violent, he said, he made him

3008
02:56:24,800 --> 02:56:27,720
Speaker 1: violently sick. That's why he quit, because he couldn't be

3009
02:56:27,720 --> 02:56:31,240
Speaker 1: it was so disturbing. He physically saw the files. And

3010
02:56:31,280 --> 02:56:35,400
Speaker 1: after that, you know, they ushered him his way out

3011
02:56:35,080 --> 02:56:38,240
Speaker 1: of the administration. So it must be something that if

3012
02:56:38,280 --> 02:56:41,120
Speaker 1: you're a person and you see these files that you

3013
02:56:41,320 --> 02:56:45,199
Speaker 1: makes you violently ill with these manitudes of these babies,

3014
02:56:45,360 --> 02:56:46,680
Speaker 1: it must be something that you know.

3015
02:56:47,560 --> 02:56:51,680
Speaker 4: Because Nancy Nate, who is a Trump fight, she came

3016
02:56:51,720 --> 02:56:55,440
Speaker 4: out of a review of these documents crying one day.

3017
02:56:55,800 --> 02:56:59,520
Speaker 4: And then Margie Taylor Green was so upset she doesn't quit,

3018
02:57:00,080 --> 02:57:06,280
Speaker 4: walked away, and so even Bobart, Lauren bo Bobart, these

3019
02:57:06,280 --> 02:57:10,080
Speaker 4: are the worst mag of women. But even these three

3020
02:57:10,240 --> 02:57:13,920
Speaker 4: awful magna women shorted the evil in those files, and

3021
02:57:14,040 --> 02:57:17,000
Speaker 4: all of them came to their senses and stop playing

3022
02:57:17,040 --> 02:57:20,640
Speaker 4: the game of Mecca. They stopped playing. Margie Keilla Green,

3023
02:57:20,640 --> 02:57:23,240
Speaker 4: they playing with Trump no more. Matty Made, they playing

3024
02:57:23,280 --> 02:57:25,960
Speaker 4: with Trump no more. And Lauren Bobart is not playing

3025
02:57:26,000 --> 02:57:30,560
Speaker 4: with Trump no more. Bobert said that they Maxwell should

3026
02:57:30,560 --> 02:57:34,040
Speaker 4: be punished harder, and she should be in a harder prison.

3027
02:57:34,200 --> 02:57:38,400
Speaker 4: That's what Bobart said yesterday. Whatever these women have seen,

3028
02:57:39,680 --> 02:57:44,440
Speaker 4: it's raally devastating to everyone. So we got a demon

3029
02:57:44,520 --> 02:57:48,359
Speaker 4: in the White House, a devil beel above is running America.

3030
02:57:51,040 --> 02:57:52,920
Speaker 1: And these are the conversations they don't want you to

3031
02:57:52,959 --> 02:57:55,680
Speaker 1: have family that we're having right now, a ten away

3032
02:57:55,680 --> 02:57:58,080
Speaker 1: from the top. They are because you're right, Margie Taylor

3033
02:57:58,120 --> 02:58:01,240
Speaker 1: Green and so, Maga, do you think this will influence though,

3034
02:58:01,240 --> 02:58:03,800
Speaker 1: when we come to the elections in the fall. If

3035
02:58:04,080 --> 02:58:06,680
Speaker 1: and I keep saying, they fear is an election, doctor Taylor,

3036
02:58:06,920 --> 02:58:09,119
Speaker 1: that the bag of folks will turn on Trump.

3037
02:58:09,760 --> 02:58:11,920
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say twenty nine, and oh that's all I'm

3038
02:58:11,920 --> 02:58:15,119
Speaker 4: gonna say, twenty nine. And oh, what is actually happening

3039
02:58:15,160 --> 02:58:19,040
Speaker 4: in those twenty nine contests is Republicans are suppressing their

3040
02:58:19,080 --> 02:58:22,520
Speaker 4: own turnout. They're not going out to support Trump. Trump

3041
02:58:22,560 --> 02:58:25,200
Speaker 4: is in big trouble for the midterms, not because of

3042
02:58:25,240 --> 02:58:27,680
Speaker 4: a blue waves but actually, Carl, listen, and you're not

3043
02:58:27,720 --> 02:58:30,120
Speaker 4: gonna hit it anywhere else but on your showf but

3044
02:58:30,560 --> 02:58:34,720
Speaker 4: because of a red waves of Republicans who gonna stay home.

3045
02:58:35,240 --> 02:58:38,600
Speaker 4: That's what has happened in all twenty nine contests. Again,

3046
02:58:39,120 --> 02:58:43,000
Speaker 4: since Trump won, there have been twenty nine special elections

3047
02:58:43,080 --> 02:58:46,400
Speaker 4: and the Democrats have won each one. Tell me how

3048
02:58:46,480 --> 02:58:49,840
Speaker 4: that is in a mid term victory for TWELMP. It's not.

3049
02:58:50,200 --> 02:58:53,400
Speaker 4: There's no momentum, there's no enthusiasm, and it needs to

3050
02:58:53,480 --> 02:58:56,840
Speaker 4: knock up people even they know there's something de monic

3051
02:58:57,080 --> 02:59:01,120
Speaker 4: about this etscene file. So even then it's shaming the

3052
02:59:01,120 --> 02:59:05,480
Speaker 4: White Church. The White Church is the same in embarrassment

3053
02:59:05,680 --> 02:59:09,119
Speaker 4: that they're standing by He of the Bove when Bill

3054
02:59:09,240 --> 02:59:13,680
Speaker 4: the Bob is exposed as the greatest tidhood violator.

3055
02:59:13,640 --> 02:59:14,120
Speaker 11: That we know.

3056
02:59:14,360 --> 02:59:19,240
Speaker 4: We don't know anybody more famous than Sandusky or victimizing children.

3057
02:59:19,280 --> 02:59:21,879
Speaker 4: They're trying to make Michael Jackson that person. But no,

3058
02:59:22,800 --> 02:59:27,360
Speaker 4: Sandusky and Trump are the most famous protophiles that we

3059
02:59:27,680 --> 02:59:33,200
Speaker 4: you know, accuse that the files that we know. So again, uh,

3060
02:59:34,360 --> 02:59:34,840
Speaker 4: I think.

3061
02:59:34,840 --> 02:59:39,039
Speaker 1: That also too, Doc. We gotta understand his approval rating,

3062
02:59:39,040 --> 02:59:44,600
Speaker 1: it's down to thirty four percent. Well, the question is, again,

3063
02:59:44,680 --> 02:59:46,760
Speaker 1: do you think he'll do something that we don't have

3064
02:59:46,800 --> 02:59:49,320
Speaker 1: the elections if he sees that he's losing that badly

3065
02:59:49,360 --> 02:59:50,120
Speaker 1: as you saying no.

3066
02:59:50,600 --> 02:59:53,840
Speaker 4: No, no, because he's lost, pointing our racists That's what

3067
02:59:53,879 --> 02:59:56,840
Speaker 4: I'm trying to get people to understand. Your fear of

3068
02:59:56,959 --> 03:00:00,800
Speaker 4: what Trump might do in the midterms is misplaced. He

3069
03:00:00,840 --> 03:00:03,320
Speaker 4: did it in the twenty nine races. He's lost. He's

3070
03:00:03,400 --> 03:00:13,480
Speaker 4: lost twenty nine elections in Mississippi, Alabama, Texas, California. In fact,

3071
03:00:13,520 --> 03:00:17,240
Speaker 4: they've write all the Republicans in Congress. Here in California

3072
03:00:17,280 --> 03:00:23,840
Speaker 4: thanks to Trump. There ain't no Republicans in Congress in California.

3073
03:00:24,080 --> 03:00:28,320
Speaker 4: Indiana said no, now when red Indiana though, Trump, no,

3074
03:00:28,640 --> 03:00:32,760
Speaker 4: We're now redrawing our districts. It's that fighted because California

3075
03:00:32,800 --> 03:00:36,560
Speaker 4: already did and Maryland was already in the process, so

3076
03:00:37,080 --> 03:00:40,640
Speaker 4: in Virginia was considering it. So it actually that fight

3077
03:00:40,840 --> 03:00:46,080
Speaker 4: on Trump and in Indiana and in Texas and in California,

3078
03:00:46,240 --> 03:00:50,160
Speaker 4: they gained about five or six congressional seats. So again

3079
03:00:50,440 --> 03:00:54,840
Speaker 4: that is protecting the midterms. Gavin Newsom deserves credit for that.

3080
03:00:54,920 --> 03:00:58,879
Speaker 4: But let's be clear. Trump has lost every opportunity to

3081
03:00:58,959 --> 03:01:02,120
Speaker 4: win since he one in twenty twenty four. And if

3082
03:01:02,200 --> 03:01:05,760
Speaker 4: you think it's gonna go from being completely confeated with

3083
03:01:05,840 --> 03:01:09,039
Speaker 4: twenty nine to zero to winning the midterms, when it's

3084
03:01:09,040 --> 03:01:14,480
Speaker 4: built in structurally for the city administration to lose thirty seats. Man,

3085
03:01:14,640 --> 03:01:17,119
Speaker 4: there's nothing Donald Trump can do. He can talk all

3086
03:01:17,200 --> 03:01:21,440
Speaker 4: he wants, but the courts have hell, I.

3087
03:01:21,360 --> 03:01:23,640
Speaker 1: Guess what you're saying, though, doctor ever amount of time.

3088
03:01:23,720 --> 03:01:27,039
Speaker 1: But he can, you know, declare marshal law. There can

3089
03:01:27,080 --> 03:01:29,280
Speaker 1: be something happening and it's just we have to suspend

3090
03:01:29,280 --> 03:01:32,680
Speaker 1: the elections. He can do, That's that's part of his offs.

3091
03:01:33,400 --> 03:01:35,640
Speaker 4: I mean, he could have done in Minnesota, but we

3092
03:01:35,680 --> 03:01:37,640
Speaker 4: didn't go out there in the streets. If we go

3093
03:01:37,720 --> 03:01:39,800
Speaker 4: out there, he gonna call him to the law. But

3094
03:01:39,879 --> 03:01:42,440
Speaker 4: we're smarter than him. But we haven't gone out there.

3095
03:01:42,440 --> 03:01:45,800
Speaker 4: You know what we're doing here in Oakland February twenty second,

3096
03:01:46,000 --> 03:01:49,240
Speaker 4: they're having Black Joy Parade, Tens of thousands of black

3097
03:01:49,240 --> 03:01:51,959
Speaker 4: people coming together to just dance and eat and drink

3098
03:01:52,160 --> 03:01:54,920
Speaker 4: and love on each other. That's the moment black people

3099
03:01:54,920 --> 03:01:58,840
Speaker 4: are in putting away from white America. Turn towards your culture,

3100
03:01:59,040 --> 03:02:02,440
Speaker 4: turns towards your people, Celebrate your people. And if this

3101
03:02:02,640 --> 03:02:07,360
Speaker 4: thing burns, don't let it burn because they didn't create it.

3102
03:02:07,680 --> 03:02:11,320
Speaker 4: They created it and they're gonna destroy it. We're not

3103
03:02:11,400 --> 03:02:14,240
Speaker 4: gonna destroy it a white man. He Obama told the

3104
03:02:14,280 --> 03:02:16,240
Speaker 4: truth recently, but he didn't tell a whole truth. He

3105
03:02:16,320 --> 03:02:18,960
Speaker 4: said the problem of the world is rich old men.

3106
03:02:19,959 --> 03:02:22,439
Speaker 3: But he's really rich old.

3107
03:02:22,200 --> 03:02:25,720
Speaker 4: White men like Donald Trump and these baby raping men

3108
03:02:26,160 --> 03:02:29,480
Speaker 4: all up in the Epstein files is a real problem

3109
03:02:29,480 --> 03:02:33,640
Speaker 4: of America. I am confident as a political scientist they

3110
03:02:33,680 --> 03:02:37,240
Speaker 4: have not anything Trump can do for the midterms because

3111
03:02:37,240 --> 03:02:40,840
Speaker 4: the courts have held and again he's twenty nine. And oh,

3112
03:02:41,160 --> 03:02:44,600
Speaker 4: how come he didn't seek in all those twenty nine elections.

3113
03:02:44,680 --> 03:02:47,920
Speaker 4: If he's got some big plan going, it's just fear

3114
03:02:48,320 --> 03:02:52,560
Speaker 4: and taren noya there. In terms of practical politics, there's

3115
03:02:52,640 --> 03:02:55,720
Speaker 4: no good reason to believe that Trump's gonna feel good

3116
03:02:56,080 --> 03:02:59,480
Speaker 4: on November of the day after the first week of

3117
03:02:59,480 --> 03:03:03,600
Speaker 4: that election, Something's gonna be weakened. They're gonna the gabble

3118
03:03:03,720 --> 03:03:07,039
Speaker 4: is gonna switch over to Hakeem Jeffries. I don't like

3119
03:03:07,160 --> 03:03:10,320
Speaker 4: Jeffries because he's not living to his true culture. His

3120
03:03:10,480 --> 03:03:14,280
Speaker 4: uncle is Leonard Jeffries from Cuney, New York, the great

3121
03:03:14,280 --> 03:03:18,400
Speaker 4: apple centrist. Uh uh, my King's bron his uncle Duke Putney,

3122
03:03:18,560 --> 03:03:20,720
Speaker 4: and it CAUs a big controversy back in the day.

3123
03:03:21,320 --> 03:03:25,680
Speaker 4: Jaquem Jeffries is sold out the APA, So is Cory

3124
03:03:25,720 --> 03:03:29,440
Speaker 4: Booker sold out the eight the Way Negroes and move

3125
03:03:29,520 --> 03:03:33,760
Speaker 4: out the way and make room for Jasline Crockett. Uh,

3126
03:03:33,840 --> 03:03:37,560
Speaker 4: because where we are, Uh, I believe it's time for

3127
03:03:37,600 --> 03:03:40,760
Speaker 4: people like Cory Bush and Jasline Crockett who are gonna

3128
03:03:40,760 --> 03:03:44,880
Speaker 4: speak out on our behalf as opposed to being used

3129
03:03:44,959 --> 03:03:49,840
Speaker 4: by other interests to represent their interests.

3130
03:03:50,240 --> 03:03:51,400
Speaker 10: Uh.

3131
03:03:51,440 --> 03:03:55,520
Speaker 4: You know doesn't represent ours. So I'm encouraged car and

3132
03:03:55,560 --> 03:03:58,240
Speaker 4: you should be too. That Trump has lost twenty nine

3133
03:03:58,320 --> 03:04:04,560
Speaker 4: races since he won and there's nothing magical or uh

3134
03:04:04,920 --> 03:04:07,480
Speaker 4: in terms of martial law that's going to happen between

3135
03:04:07,520 --> 03:04:09,959
Speaker 4: now and November. They just got chased out of Wisconsince,

3136
03:04:10,080 --> 03:04:13,560
Speaker 4: I mean Minnesota. Look at it that Ice has been

3137
03:04:13,959 --> 03:04:18,600
Speaker 4: saved out of Minnesota of people run. So where did

3138
03:04:18,640 --> 03:04:22,160
Speaker 4: the marchal law? The people? What Ice just behind? They

3139
03:04:22,280 --> 03:04:25,280
Speaker 4: killed two people, they killed running two people are on

3140
03:04:25,480 --> 03:04:30,360
Speaker 4: scene in witchconscin in them in Minnesota. But look, Ice

3141
03:04:30,800 --> 03:04:34,920
Speaker 4: is defeated. Ice is gone. So anybody who's worried about

3142
03:04:35,320 --> 03:04:39,000
Speaker 4: the threat of Trump, look at that's in front of you,

3143
03:04:39,080 --> 03:04:42,440
Speaker 4: twenty nine and oh Ice is out of Minnesota. That

3144
03:04:42,600 --> 03:04:45,840
Speaker 4: seems to be You're winning. This idiot put up a

3145
03:04:45,959 --> 03:04:52,280
Speaker 4: racist meme against his predecessor that everybody realizes was racist.

3146
03:04:52,320 --> 03:04:55,680
Speaker 4: Even the racist are saying that was racist. So there's

3147
03:04:55,760 --> 03:04:59,959
Speaker 4: nothing left with your right that is down to thirty percent.

3148
03:05:00,360 --> 03:05:02,320
Speaker 1: Right and hold I thought that because we're just about

3149
03:05:02,360 --> 03:05:04,520
Speaker 1: flat out of time, doctor Taylor. But before we go,

3150
03:05:04,600 --> 03:05:06,840
Speaker 1: how can folks continue to follow.

3151
03:05:06,560 --> 03:05:12,280
Speaker 4: You on Instagram? Is James Taylor sixteen ninety nine. Trump

3152
03:05:12,400 --> 03:05:15,200
Speaker 4: is done. That's my last word. Trump is done and

3153
03:05:15,240 --> 03:05:17,600
Speaker 4: he will be impeached by next January.

3154
03:05:18,720 --> 03:05:20,560
Speaker 1: All right, we'll see if that holds true. Thank you,

3155
03:05:20,640 --> 03:05:22,640
Speaker 1: doctor Taylor. Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us

3156
03:05:22,680 --> 03:05:24,720
Speaker 1: this morning. All right, family, that's it for the day.

3157
03:05:24,760 --> 03:05:28,840
Speaker 1: Classes dismissed. Stay strong, stay positive, and please stay healthy.

3158
03:05:28,959 --> 03:05:31,000
Speaker 1: We'll see you tomorrow morning, six o'clock right here in

3159
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Speaker 1: Baltimore on ten ten WLB, also on the DMV on

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Speaker 1: fourteen fifty WOL