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Speaker 1: Joining us now on the guest line. He is, of course,

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Speaker 1: with the Indianapolis Star. He is our friend, Zach. Thank

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Speaker 1: you who joins us?

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Speaker 2: Zach?

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Speaker 1: Are you on your way down to Bloomington or are you

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Speaker 1: already there?

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Speaker 2: I'm always here. I never leave.

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Speaker 1: You know what, I don't know why I was thinking

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Speaker 1: you lived on the south side of Indianapolis. I didn't

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Speaker 1: realize that you live on the south side of Bloomington.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's cool, you south side?

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Speaker 1: Do you live on the lake by the way, that's

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Speaker 1: the way south side?

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Speaker 4: Right, No, I don't go quite that far south, but

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Speaker 4: we are firmly in that direction.

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Speaker 1: All right, fair enough, let's begin with this this game.

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Speaker 1: And I know it sounds crazy because of the year

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Speaker 1: So let's begin with this. Do we know more about

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think for our purposes, I think we

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Speaker 4: probably know more about Indiana. But I think we always

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Speaker 4: recognize that. I mean, like I've been calling this three

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Speaker 4: game starts to preseason basically all year and that this

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Speaker 4: certain things. You wanted to see certain relationships forming. You

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Speaker 4: wanted to know is the improvement here real? And they

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Speaker 4: figure out the defensive line rotation, what do they look

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Speaker 4: like in the you know, the secondary has been remade,

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Speaker 4: all this kind of stuff. But we all knew kind

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Speaker 4: of like an NFL preseason, you're not going to come

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Speaker 4: out of it just sort of being able to say,

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Speaker 4: my mind has been completely made up about what this

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Speaker 4: to happen in the games that really matter. I understand

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Speaker 4: college is a little different. These games matter. If Indiana

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Speaker 4: were to lose tonight, you know, that would have all

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Speaker 4: and whatever. It's It's not like losing an NFL preseason

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Speaker 4: game in terms of being risk free, but I think

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Speaker 1: Frankly, do you with Indiana, Zach and I was talking

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Speaker 1: about this earlier. When you have these three games, and

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Speaker 1: I mean This is no disrespect to the opponents, but

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Speaker 1: Kurt Signetti has been so outspoken about, you know, just

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Speaker 1: the way that they have managed the scheduling. Is there

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Speaker 1: an extent to these games where it actually is about

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Speaker 1: more your depth than it is rhythm of your starters

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Speaker 4: I think it's personally a split of both. I mean,

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Speaker 4: Signetti said himself the reason that he left his starters

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Speaker 4: we need this rhythm. On the other hand, I think

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Speaker 4: and you want to be respectful of Indiana State, but

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Speaker 4: assuming Indiana can get to a place where it's comfortably

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Speaker 4: That was Washington, it was a conference game, Game day

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Speaker 4: frankly being one of Indiana's better wins all things being equal,

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Speaker 1: Speaking of balance, Zach, and maybe the time is now

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Speaker 1: of that table. Is that like a way over nuanced

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Speaker 4: No, I don't think it is. And listen, I mean

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Speaker 4: I wrote something about this today. I think everyone's written

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Speaker 4: In the end, what Ted Carter said to my colleagues

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Speaker 1: And by the way, Ted Carter, the president of Ohio State.

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Speaker 4: he essentially said, that's a conversation that will probably be

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Speaker 2: He's not a novice to this.

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Speaker 4: He knows what it's going to say to people when

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Speaker 2: The revenue sharing.

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Speaker 2: The ACC. I think it's sixty percent of your revenue.

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Speaker 2: Is I mean it is.

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Speaker 4: It is meaningful for a couple of reasons, and I

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Speaker 4: you know, That's just the plain and simple truth of it.

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Speaker 1: From the Indianapolis Star. Our buddy, Zach joining us on

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Speaker 1: From the That's right, Kyle Needrip joining us now on

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Speaker 6: so far kind of bears that out. Ben Davis is

438
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,800
Speaker 6: a little bit. They're definitely young. I mean they're starting

439
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,439
Speaker 6: at freshman quarterback at six a which is which is

440
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:38,199
Speaker 6: hard to do. Uh So, I yeah, and also the

441
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,040
Speaker 6: you know, sort of the the news this week with

442
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,199
Speaker 6: the Mick bringing back Center Grove and carmelsk sort of

443
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,640
Speaker 6: the even though this doesn't count as a conference game,

444
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:49,160
Speaker 6: it's it's a reminder that these teams will be conference

445
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 6: teams again. Center Grove and Ben Davis and obviously two

446
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 6: of the two of the premier football programs traditionally, uh

447
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:57,879
Speaker 6: in the state they've played some. I've covered a lot

448
00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 6: of the games between these teams in the in the

449
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,199
Speaker 6: past that they have been very memorable. So cool that

450
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 6: they're back in the same conference again. But I think

451
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 6: Center Grove's probably the the you know right now is

452
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 6: the better team. But yeah, Ben Davis will Uh they're

453
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,120
Speaker 6: not going to go anywhere, you know, and I guarantee

454
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 6: by the end of the season, they're going to.

455
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 5: Be a team don't want to don't want to play.

456
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,399
Speaker 6: Was that a Metropolitan interstill Lastic conference decision or was

457
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 6: that a Carmel and Center Grove decision to go back?

458
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,679
Speaker 5: I mean it was mutual. I mean, everybody has to

459
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 5: agree on that, and you know, I think between.

460
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 6: You know, gosh, I had a lot of conversations with people,

461
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 6: you know, even off the on end, off the record,

462
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 6: I guess about you know, kind of three and a

463
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 6: half years ago, what has happened in the time since then.

464
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Speaker 6: And you know, I think it's for the betterment of

465
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Speaker 6: both Carmel and Center Grove. In the Mick, you know,

466
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 6: when you only have six teams, you know, just you

467
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,159
Speaker 6: you you're down a cup. You know, you want to

468
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 6: have a conference, you want to have probably eight teams

469
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,479
Speaker 6: is ideal, and you got two teams sitting out there

470
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,920
Speaker 6: as independents that are having a hard I'm scheduling and

471
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,239
Speaker 6: getting down to the middle school. You know, having just

472
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,919
Speaker 6: to travel and do those things in middle school is

473
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 6: not ideal. So you know, I think it was mutual,

474
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 6: you know, and the Mick wouldn't have voted in that

475
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 6: in favor of it if they didn't want to have

476
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,880
Speaker 6: those schools back. So I think it's for everybody's benefit.

477
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 6: And you know, definitely had been hearing some things throughout

478
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 6: the summer that probably led to led you to think

479
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,679
Speaker 6: this could happen eventually. And you know, I think for

480
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 6: the betterment of everybody. I think it's going to be good,

481
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 6: you know, to have them back in the mix. So

482
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:35,679
Speaker 6: but yeah, I think it's I think it's both.

483
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: One of the games. Uh, you know, I mentioned each

484
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 1: week Crystal House is the team that I'm going to

485
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 1: spotlight each and every week because it's you know, a

486
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,399
Speaker 1: smaller group of kids that are working hard. They've got

487
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 1: Crispus Addicts tonight, that's a seven o'clock kick. I wanted

488
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 1: to ask this, Kyle, because I think it's you know,

489
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 1: I've always enjoyed these schools, and that is among the

490
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,919
Speaker 1: IPS schools, the one that so far through you know,

491
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 1: the first I guess, gosh, hard to believe already quarter

492
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 1: of the season, but uh, the team that jumps out

493
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,199
Speaker 1: at you where you say, you know what from an

494
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 1: IPS school, that that might be the best one so

495
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 1: far this year.

496
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think Addicts is probably that team. And they're

497
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 6: you know, kind of some you know, they're going to

498
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 6: have a new stadium they're going to be playing in

499
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,439
Speaker 6: pretty soon, or refurbished stadium that looks pretty cool that

500
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,640
Speaker 6: you know, it's a long time coming for sure.

501
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, they had a lot of problems with the literally

502
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 1: the foundation of the stands, right, weren't they having like

503
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 1: you know, I mean it needed. In other words, this

504
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 1: wasn't like just some cosmetic lets. I mean, this was

505
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 1: a necessary upgrade for them.

506
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 6: You literally couldn't watch games there anymore, you know, you couldn't,

507
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 6: you know, it was that bad. I went over I

508
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 6: did a story in one of their h one of

509
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 6: their girl shot putters discus throwers.

510
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 5: He's one of the best in the state.

511
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 6: And you know, I was just over there, you know,

512
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 6: kind of looking around at it, and it was just,

513
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 6: you know, so much needed to be done. I'm glad,

514
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 6: you know, they it's finally happening, and it's going to

515
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 6: be a good Uh, it's gonna look great, you know,

516
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,239
Speaker 6: when it's all completed. But yeah, I was looking at

517
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 6: their schedule. You know, they lost to Lutheran week one,

518
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 6: a very competitive game that that Lutheran ended up pulling

519
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 6: away and winning. But you know, then they beat Tech

520
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 6: and Tinley the last two weeks and then going down.

521
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 6: I was looking next week, you know, Purdue Poly. Uh,

522
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 6: they both could be undefeated next week playing each other.

523
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 6: That that'd be two four and oh teams. And then

524
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 6: you look at the rest of the schedule and I'm

525
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,439
Speaker 6: not sure there's another game. You know, I think they

526
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 6: could maybe now and be you know, potentially eight and

527
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,120
Speaker 6: one going into the sectional, which is you know, they're

528
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,159
Speaker 6: in four A, which is tough. You know, you're the

529
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 6: acted schools. They don't have the overall numbers of players

530
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,159
Speaker 6: a lot of these four A teams do usually, but

531
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 6: so you're battling an uphill battle against schools like Ron

532
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 6: Collage and Shatard in that same sectional.

533
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 5: But if you can go.

534
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 6: Eight and one, you know, that kind of shows you know,

535
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 6: Addicts is definitely get their program going in the right direction.

536
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 6: They've been very competitive these last probably three or four years. Uh,

537
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 6: you know, so it's it's been a it's been a

538
00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 6: program on the upswing. But yeah, you're looking at what

539
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 6: they've done so far, I think they're probably the team

540
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 6: that stands out the most.

541
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: So tonight, Kyle will be at the MUDSOT game, that

542
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 1: is the Hamblton County rivalry game between Hamilton Southeastern and Fishers.

543
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 1: And if I'm not mistaken, Kyle, even when in years

544
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,679
Speaker 1: that there has been like maybe you know, seemingly on

545
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 1: paper a disparity between these two teams, this game almost

546
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 1: always comes down to a crazy finish, doesn't it.

547
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 6: Oh Man, So many times. It's just every almost every

548
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 6: time I've covered it, it's been like an overtime or

549
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 6: a play at the goal line, or you know, something

550
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 6: wild that you know happened. I can't imagine it won't

551
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 6: be that late tonight.

552
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 5: It's one of the unique games just you know, you

553
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 5: don't have.

554
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 6: A lot of district you know, especially at this size

555
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 6: of school. You know, teams, kids that went to school together.

556
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 6: You know, it's basically like brothers playing against each other

557
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 6: in a lot of ways. So yeah, it's gonna you know,

558
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,880
Speaker 6: it's almost always comes down to the wire. The crowds

559
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 6: are enormous every year, and I think it used to

560
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 6: be weak two and they pushed it back a couple

561
00:26:59,359 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 6: of weeks.

562
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 5: But it's yeah, it's.

563
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 6: Always one of the best games on the schedule. The

564
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 6: red versus the blue, and the colors of the stadiums

565
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 6: really neat too, So yeah.

566
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 5: It'll be a great game.

567
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 6: I can't imagine it won't be a field goal cut

568
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 6: type game either way, or touchdown game either way. You know,

569
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 6: they're both competitive this year anyway. But it's just the nature,

570
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 6: you know, like you said, the nature of this series.

571
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,919
Speaker 6: It's almost always a crazy close game.

572
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: High school football in Indiana. I'm telling you it's it's

573
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 1: pretty awesome. And between the kids, the local communities, the support,

574
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 1: the lights. I love all of it. And Kyle Needdenrymple

575
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: will have all of it covered. Kyle appreciate the time

576
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: as always. All right, enjoy the games tonight.

577
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 5: All right, guys, Thanks Jake.

578
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 1: Kyle joining us from the Indianapol Star. I get the impression.

579
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: I have no idea. I've never met this next individual.

580
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: I watched them play a lot of football, and that

581
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: was a team and an era that I was covering.

582
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 1: Perdue and Tim Stratton was a fabulous player for the

583
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 1: boiler Makers. A three time first team All Big Time performer.

584
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 1: He was the inaugural John Mackey Award winner for the

585
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 1: best tight end in college football. He caught passes not

586
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: only from Drew Brees but Kyle Orton. He climbed a

587
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: goalpost once. I have no idea, but I'm gonna guess

588
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 1: Tim Stratton probably is a Green Day fan. I don't

589
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: know why I think that. I just think that Tim

590
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: Stratton joining us on the program. He will be honored

591
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 1: along with his Rose Bowl teammates tomorrow at rass aid

592
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 1: for Purdue and USC factor fiction Tim Stratton, Tim likes

593
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: Green Day.

594
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 7: Tim used to like Green Day until they got political.

595
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 7: Then I stopped.

596
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: Yes, So college Tim Stratton liked Green Day.

597
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 3: Correct, correct, that is correct.

598
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 7: I was a fan.

599
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough now if it makes you feel any better.

600
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: And you and I have never met, but college Jake

601
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: had an internship in New York City and met this

602
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: chick and like thought, everything was going great. And then

603
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety four and she told me that her

604
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: boyfriend's band was coming for the weekend so she couldn't

605
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: get together. And it turns out our boyfriend's man was

606
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: in Green Day. So Jake also used to like Green

607
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: Day and no longer does.

608
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 3: That's awesome, that's awesome. That's that's fair.

609
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, hey, let's get to this, and that is

610
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: you know, there's when I think back to this team

611
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: that's going to be honored tomorrow and that Rose Bowl team.

612
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: You know, we talked to Seth Morales yesterday and the

613
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: Holy Toledo play against Ohio State and it just was

614
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: such a fun group to watch play. And now you

615
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: get a chance to go back and be honored for

616
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: the twenty fifth anniversary. First off, does it feel like

617
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: twenty five years ago?

618
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 7: There's there's times where it does and times where it does,

619
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Speaker 7: and I guess it depends on how my back fields

620
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 7: when I get up in the morning.

621
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 8: But you know, it's it's going to be great to a.

622
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 7: Lot of the guys that are that are coming back in.

623
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 7: I now have you know my daughters that are been

624
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 7: active in sports. I have a collegiate volleyball player now.

625
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 7: So I told the guys that when I was coming in,

626
00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 7: I go, you know, I'll be watching the game on

627
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 7: the field, but I will also probably be watching my

628
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 7: daughter's game on my phone at the same time. So

629
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 7: you know, it's just a different stagmic now for a

630
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 7: lot of us.

631
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: Okay, your daughter's a volleyball player.

632
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 7: Where Youngstown State University.

633
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: Oh that's cool. Speaking of which Horizon League, by the way,

634
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: based right here in Indy. And you know, I'll tell

635
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: you Tim, volleyball is amazing because first off, you know

636
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: they've got a professional team now here in Indy. That

637
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: is a sport that you want to talk about like momentum.

638
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: I would imagine you, and you tell me if I'm

639
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: wrong here, I would imagine Tim Stratton gets more on

640
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: edge and nervous watching volleyball than he ever did lining

641
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 1: up as a football player.

642
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 7: Absolutely, And I actually was a volleyball player in Illinois

643
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 7: coming out of high schools.

644
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 8: Recruited to play football and basketball.

645
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 7: And volleyball in college, and I ended up choosing football

646
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 7: because you know, it just happened. But I love the sport.

647
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 7: I love the fact my daughters were in it. My

648
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 7: middle one is the one that completely focused on it

649
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 7: and really worked their butt off to get to a

650
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 7: scholarship for college. And I'm just really proud of her.

651
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: So let's talk about what it was if you had

652
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: those options, you know, and you were part of Joe

653
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: Tiller's first recruiting class at Purdue. If I'm not mistaken,

654
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: What was it about Purdue initially and Joe Tiller that

655
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: drew Tim Stratton out of Oakbrook, Illinois to West Lafayette.

656
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 7: The fact that coach brought eight of his coaches to

657
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 7: my house. We sat around my parents' dining room table

658
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 7: and Coach was He asked me what I wanted to

659
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 7: do or you know, what I wanted to major, and

660
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 7: I said history.

661
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 8: He goes, all right.

662
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 7: One was Purdue founded and I had no clue when

663
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 7: Purdue was founding it because the only thing I knew

664
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 7: about Purdue was Mike Golfend and you know, maybe the astronast.

665
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 7: That was about the only thing I knew back then.

666
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 7: Obviously no social media, and the games were ever on TV.

667
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,719
Speaker 7: It was always the Minnesota game that was like fifty

668
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 7: eight to forty eight or you know, they were always

669
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 7: high scoring games. So but you know the fact that

670
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 7: they showed up Coach Corporates, the old quarterbacks coach that

671
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 7: was supposed to come with he passed away that summer

672
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 7: before we got there, so eight of the nine assistants

673
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 7: were there.

674
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 8: And it really made a huge impact.

675
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 7: On me and my family and just really fell them

676
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 7: up with the offense and the potential they knew. I

677
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 7: was obviously one hundred and ninety five pound wide receiver

678
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 7: in high school. But they said, listen, our tight end

679
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 7: at Wyoming last year called eighty balls. Do you want

680
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 7: to be like that or do you want to be

681
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 7: a slow receiver somewhere else? I'm like, that's a good point.

682
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 7: So it was a good selling point. It was also

683
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 7: the fact that in the Big Ten at that time,

684
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 7: there were a bunch of coaches coming in, and Tiller's

685
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 7: staff was the only coach.

686
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 8: Tiller was the only one that brought his entire staff

687
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 8: with him.

688
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 7: Everyone else was putting the other of their staffs, you know,

689
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 7: Cam Cameron at IU, Turner Illinois, Mason of Minnesota. So

690
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 7: they're they're the continuity for them coming in, I thought

691
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 7: would be a huge benefit for myself and for the team.

692
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: You know, my recollection of this, tim and this may

693
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: be way off, and you know, and I want to

694
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: get to you know, some of your your great games

695
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: you had and you know obviously catching balls from Drew

696
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: Brees and Kyle Orton, I mean, both great quarterbacks. You know,

697
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: there's a lot to get to there, but my recollection,

698
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: and you tell me if I'm wrong. I remember later

699
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: in your career that you were kind of a guy

700
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: that Joe Tiller always was kind of poking is the

701
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: wrong word, but using as an example of areas that

702
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: he wanted leadership and maturity out of, and that he

703
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: pushed you harder than maybe other guys. But that's a

704
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: from outside perspective. Was there any accuracy to my assumption there?

705
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, there was some to it. I also was unfortunately

706
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 7: immature and childish and kind of a creature of the moment,

707
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 7: and so you know, not necessarily looking at long term,

708
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 7: but more the short term and you know, instant gratification

709
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 7: kind of. I guess now this younger generation, I guess

710
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 7: I'm in the wrong generation. But yeah, I just I

711
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 7: wanted to have fun. And you know, we always had

712
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 7: Drew to tell media that what the school wanted them

713
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 7: to hear, and then you had me that told the truth.

714
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 7: So it was many many tune lashings from not only

715
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 7: Coach but all my parents and you know, Timmy would

716
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 7: just shut up, like.

717
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 8: Just stop stop saying what you're saying. I'm like, well,

718
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 8: I'm not lying, you know.

719
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 7: So it's uh uh.

720
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 8: You know, having a little bit of koth was.

721
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 7: Not something I had back then.

722
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: So what was your relationship with Joe Tiller?

723
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 7: Coach and I got along great. We I know publicly

724
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 7: it didn't look like we did, but we actually got

725
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 7: along great. I mean I considered him and Jim Cheney

726
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 7: is kind of like my other two dads and Coach

727
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 7: hope to be honest with you, so the uh, but

728
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 7: we we got along great. You know, we did have

729
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 7: our moments where, you know, publicly when I lost my

730
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 7: helmet or you know all that jazz is the Michigan game.

731
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 7: You know, we had a few little run ins, I

732
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,959
Speaker 7: would say, but all in all we got along great.

733
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: And by the way, way because I do have to

734
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: ask about it. So you guys beat Michigan, You climb

735
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: up the goalposts and then somebody swipes your helmet. Right now, now,

736
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: how all did this go down? For those that are

737
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 1: unfamiliar with the story, enlighten us with the detail.

738
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 7: All right, So Travis makes the game winning field goal.

739
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 7: We win the game. Myself and Brandon Goran was a

740
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 7: monthly native. We were gonna.

741
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 8: We tried to go across.

742
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 7: The field to say hi, to hide a buddy from

743
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 7: Chicago that was Don Michigan. So I tried to, you know,

744
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 7: go talking after the game, but Brandon wanted to go

745
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 7: talk to one of his buddies, but the.

746
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:34,720
Speaker 8: Crowd rushed the field.

747
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 7: By the time I had lost track of Gorn, I

748
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 7: didn't know where he went. So by the time I

749
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 7: got to the north end zone goal, like you know,

750
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,720
Speaker 7: end zone, just sing the fight song with the band,

751
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 7: the team was already gone, like they were rushed off

752
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 7: the field, and so I was like, you know what,

753
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 7: I thought. All these kids were around me, and I'm like,

754
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 7: you know, what's screw it, Let's go to the goal post.

755
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 7: And I handed my helmet to a kid in one

756
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 7: of my classes because I recognized them in class, and

757
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 7: apparently so the kids were trying to lift me up,

758
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,280
Speaker 7: you know, my full uniform, and he put the helmet

759
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 7: down to help lift me up, and that's when another

760
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 7: student swiped the helmet. And so after I got you know,

761
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 7: hanging off the goal posts, I was hanging on the

762
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 7: goal post, and then I got crowd served about the

763
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 7: fifty yard line. And when I got down from you know,

764
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 7: tom that I realized that I'm I got to crap

765
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 7: my helmet's gun decision going to go over well. So

766
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 7: I tried to usher you know her quiet down the

767
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,439
Speaker 7: kids that are around me and just say fifty bucks

768
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,720
Speaker 7: in the case of here whoever could find my helmet,

769
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 7: and I sort of got you saw every kid like

770
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 7: looking all over pretty pretty powerful. And then by the

771
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 7: time I got to the locker room, the team had

772
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 7: already like coach already spoke the team like most of

773
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 7: the guys were showered already out of the locker room

774
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 7: so I'm like, all right, well, I guess I don't

775
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 7: have my helmet. And so Sunday's practice we would practice

776
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 7: on Sundays and off on Mondays. I had a backup

777
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 7: helmet that it was, you know, given to me. And

778
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 7: Sunday night I would write a diary for ABC sports

779
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:09,280
Speaker 7: dot Com that year, that season, and so I wrote

780
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 7: in the diary or the in my uh yeah, in

781
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 7: the diary, I submitted it to our sid, who then

782
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 7: submits to SI you know.

783
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 2: To publish it.

784
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,439
Speaker 7: And so I wrote in there, if anyone has any

785
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 7: whereabouts my helmet, I will give you the game ball

786
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 7: from the Michigan game. And so we got all these

787
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 7: calls we got, I mean, back then we only had

788
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 7: call our ID that was like the new thing back then.

789
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 7: And so we got all these random pulcro numbers that

790
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 7: you know, we'd get in the car and drive over

791
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 7: to you know, someone would say at this house and

792
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 7: at that house, and like idiots, we just drove all

793
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 7: over looking for it. And because Taylor had threatened to

794
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 7: suspend me the following week against Northquestern which for me

795
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 7: was like a home game, you know, back up here

796
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 7: in Chicago.

797
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 8: So Sunday practice.

798
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 7: Have the backup Monday, we're off Tuesday. I wear the

799
00:37:55,880 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 7: backup helmet Wednesday, backup helmet. Thursday's practice. I did the

800
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 7: locker room and the backup helmet's.

801
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 8: Gone, and I'm like, gosh, you know, crap.

802
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 7: I looked at Metrion, I looked at Vannie. I looked

803
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 7: at the usual suspects right that light. I looked at

804
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 7: the guys i'd know would mess with me. I'm like,

805
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 7: who took it? And all of them were like, we

806
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 7: didn't do it, we didn't take it. So I went

807
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 7: to the manager, the our equipment manager, Mike Shandrick, and

808
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 7: I'm like, hey, Mikey, where's my where's my other helmet?

809
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 8: He's like, coach told us to take it away. I'm

810
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 8: like all right.

811
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 7: So Thursday's practice he was like a shelf practice where

812
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 7: it's shoulder pad helmets and dieboards. So I went out

813
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 7: there and just my shoulder pads and.

814
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 8: My you know shorts and tiewards.

815
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 7: With no helmet, you know, start getting in the stretch

816
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 7: lines and seller comes walking up to me and he's like, hey,

817
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 7: where's your where's your helmet?

818
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 8: I said, coach, you know, DM wore, well, where my

819
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 8: helmet is you had it taken away? He's like, I

820
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 8: told you you don't get your homet back. You're playing.

821
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 7: And I said, coach, that's BS. I said, Thunderboy, which

822
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 7: is my nickname for Drew. I said, wonder boy. I

823
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 7: had his helmet take it two years ago after a

824
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 7: bowl practice.

825
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 8: No one said a word.

826
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 7: But I'm the jerk tickets know his helmetaking, and I'm

827
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 7: you know, now I'm the one being suspended.

828
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 8: I go, that's not fair. I use some other words.

829
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 8: But we're on public radios.

830
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 7: So.

831
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 2: Yes.

832
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 7: And so he's like, I didn't know about that. I'm

833
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 7: like coaching everyone. I just knew about it. You know,

834
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,240
Speaker 7: it is what it is, So lo and behold my backup.

835
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 7: Homet comes back, you know, comes out to the field.

836
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 7: I put it out in practice. And then that night

837
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 7: my one of our roommates answered the phone at like

838
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 7: in the morning and Alex tone from Lane and he

839
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 7: some kid called from like a computer lab, a compute

840
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 7: Fordue University computer labs. That's how it pops up on

841
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 7: the collar, I d which is smart on that kid's part.

842
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 7: So you know, we were trying to track down whoever

843
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 7: took it, and he just said, listen, can you please

844
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 7: give Tim Stratton a you know, a message let him

845
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 7: know his helmet is where he leftive underneath the north

846
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 7: end zone gold post. So Alex said, sure, hung up.

847
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 7: The kid called back fifteen minutes later say please, can

848
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 7: you just repeat what I had the message I need

849
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,439
Speaker 7: to get to Tim, and Alex like, sure, the gold

850
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 7: polls great, hung up.

851
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 8: Well, Apparently the kid broke into the stadium.

852
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 7: Put the helmet underneath the north end zone goldfuss where

853
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 7: he found it, and it had a letter in it

854
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 7: which stated, dear mister Stratton, I hope this helmet brings

855
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 7: you as much pleasure and has brought me these past

856
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 7: few days and something else.

857
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 8: But my sick mind was just thinking, what did.

858
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 7: You do with it? And right, you know, like you know,

859
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 7: being an eighteen, nineteen.

860
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 8: Twenty year old kid, that's immediately what I thought.

861
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 7: And it turns out that he had called also called

862
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 7: Coach Killer's office and left the message with Carlita, our secretary,

863
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 7: and so the managers went in that that morning, you know,

864
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 7: took the helmet apart to detected.

865
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 8: It, put it back together, and I was able to

866
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 8: play the rest of the season with it. And now

867
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 8: that helmet doesn't doesn't leave me.

868
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: So where did you know that? Did you ever find

869
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: out who the kid was? Did you give him a

870
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: kay Sa beer?

871
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 8: You know what I did? Not what I did?

872
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 7: He sent like a couple of buddies or at least

873
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 7: they claimed to be his friends, because they wanted the

874
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 7: game ball from the Michigan.

875
00:40:58,040 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 8: Game, because that's what that was my reward.

876
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 7: And uh so I ended up taking a practice ball

877
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 7: and had a couple of the walk on you know,

878
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 7: sign it and give it to the kid and then like, screw.

879
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 3: You, you know what I mean, Like you're okay, all right?

880
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 7: If you're not, if you're not going to be a

881
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 7: man enough to like come and at least say, hey,

882
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:15,760
Speaker 7: it's my fault.

883
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 8: I'm sorry.

884
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 7: But it turns out that the I found out from

885
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 7: his friend that the kid when he took the helmet,

886
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 7: he went home, it was Paul breaked and he lived

887
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 7: a couple hours away, so he gave the helmet to

888
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 7: his little brother, and so it took him a couple

889
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 7: of days to get back to you know, grab it

890
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 7: and bring it back to school. So that that was

891
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 7: the delay, But nonetheless it was me being stupid so.

892
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: Here's that thing though. Look, and I get the fact

893
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 1: that like from a now that we are adults, right,

894
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: you got to look back and say, you know, that

895
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 1: was immature and whatever else. But but let's be real

896
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 1: here in the moment, the crowdsurfing had to be pretty awesome.

897
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 8: Oh it was great.

898
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 7: I mean when I met with Chiller on Sunday, uh uh,

899
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 7: he called me into his off and he's like, hey,

900
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 7: how did a hundred guys get off the field with

901
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 7: their their helmet? And you're the the idiot that that didn't?

902
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 7: I go, coach, I got you know, it was mobbed.

903
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 7: You know, the kids were all over. And he pulls

904
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 7: up a picture of one of the newspapers and it

905
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 7: shows me crowdsurfing holding throw flags like in my hands,

906
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 7: and he's like, really, I go, all right, you got me, like,

907
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 7: you know, my bad. So I couldn't lie my way

908
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 7: out of that one, but I definitely tried.

909
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: Hey, what's your relationship now with you know, just your

910
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: teammates in general? And you know, I think you were

911
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: you're obviously kind of a fun loving teammate, but you know,

912
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: Drew Brees, for example, who you caught a lot of

913
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: balls from and you guys had a great on field relationship.

914
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: What's the relationship now? And who are you looking forward

915
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: to seeing this weekend?

916
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 7: You know, I'm looking forward to seeing all the guys.

917
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 7: You know, I still talk with you know, that recruiting class.

918
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 7: We were Tiller's first class, myself, true, Ben Smith, Jason Borzelle,

919
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 7: Vinny Matrio Own. You know, we had a real good

920
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 7: group of guys.

921
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 8: And I think what.

922
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 7: Really like Gelda with us was the fact that we

923
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,919
Speaker 7: were ranked the tenth out of the eleven Big Ten

924
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 7: recruiting classes. And I think that helped that motivated us

925
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 7: to say, you know what, Tom Lemon, you don't know anything.

926
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 8: You know, all these other.

927
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 7: People I don't even know back then move they were,

928
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 7: But we're going.

929
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 2: To prove you wrong.

930
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 7: We're going to come in and play this basketball and

931
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 7: grass and it was. It was a fun group. We're

932
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 7: all still really tight, which is good. I mean, you know,

933
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 7: we're all busy now with our own kids and working

934
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,280
Speaker 7: everything else, but when we have an opportunity to get together,

935
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 7: it's sure is nice to see everyone.

936
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: Tim Stratton, our guest the tight End, who was the

937
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: inaugural winner of the John mackew Ward given out to

938
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 1: college football's best tight end. The reigning owner of that

939
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: title is Tyler Warren, who is with the Colts and

940
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 1: will be with them Sunday against the Broncos at Lucas

941
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: Oil Stadium. He won the award last year at Penn State.

942
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: How much Tim do you follow still like college football

943
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 1: and for that matter, of the NFL today, and if so,

944
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: your impressions of Tyler Warren.

945
00:43:58,920 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 8: I think he's all of the player.

946
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 7: I actually am on the voting committee for the Matthew Award,

947
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 7: so I he was definitely my top tack. Kim then

948
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 7: Colston Love and Loveland the Bears a tight endow. But

949
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 7: I really enjoyed watching Tyler play. Ironically, my fifth year

950
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 7: at Purdue. When I stayed for my fifth year, I was.

951
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 8: The third street quarterback.

952
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 7: So if the two freshmen went down, Brandon Hanson Kyle Orton,

953
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 7: I was the emergency quarterback. So it was because I

954
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 7: knew the offense and I could throw the wall. So

955
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 7: it was kind of a irony that you know, our

956
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 7: latest winner could play quarterback, running back.

957
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 8: You mean, he could do it all.

958
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 7: He's just a hell of an athlete, and I'm happy

959
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 7: the Colts took him and he's I think he's gonna

960
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 7: have a great kind of all career.

961
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a heck of a player. And you're right,

962
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: you can kind of you love any guy. I mean

963
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 1: Tim Stratton. He is an old school dude. I mean,

964
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 1: Shane Steichen said, just an old school baller. And you

965
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: got to kind of see a little of yourself in that,

966
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 1: like you just talked about, right, just the ability to

967
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: be versatile like that. It really does feel throwback, doesn't it.

968
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 8: It does, it does, and it's great.

969
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 7: It's it was really fun to watch him play. He

970
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 7: was definitely a different difference maker for Penn State and

971
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 7: I think he's gonna do wonderful.

972
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 8: Things for the Colts.

973
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: Okay, lastly, for this game Purdue and USC, you often watch,

974
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: I know you said, you know, you've got your daughter

975
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 1: playing at Youngsound State, and you got kids, and you

976
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: got a lot going on. But for Purdue football, just

977
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: your overall impressions are what you would like to see,

978
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: other than the obvious, which is a win against USC

979
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: and what is now a new era for Purdue football.

980
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 7: It's crazy to me that this is considered a Big

981
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 7: Ten game. To be honest, I we knowing because we

982
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 7: played them in ninety eight and the Kickoff Classic out

983
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 7: at the Coliseum and so it was.

984
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 8: It's just so weird for it.

985
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,919
Speaker 7: But nonetheless, I think it's going to be. I hope

986
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 7: it's going to be a great game. I'm hoping our

987
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 7: I know, offensively, their first two games, I think they're

988
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 7: one of the highest averaging offenses in the country right now,

989
00:45:56,719 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 7: scoring wise, I'm really hoping to get the defense concitle

990
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 7: their offense. And I'd like to see Ryan Brown throw

991
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 7: the ball more. I'd like to see the tight ends

992
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 7: be more involved in the offense. And then Devin Makiby,

993
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 7: I think is you know, he could be a difference

994
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 7: maker tomorrow depending on how our offensive line performs.

995
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 1: By the way, since you guys played in the Rose Bowl,

996
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: I mean you mentioned playing at USC then obviously you

997
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 1: play Washington in the Rose Bowl. That's what you guys

998
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 1: are going to be honored for coming up tomorrow. I

999
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: just went to the Rose Bowl, not for a football game.

1000
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: I went to a concert there last weekend and I

1001
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,240
Speaker 1: had never been in the Rose Bowl. I mean, obviously

1002
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl is so iconic and I mentioned this

1003
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: and I want you Tim Stratton to basically to have

1004
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 1: my back here. Fabulous venue, historic, beautiful setting, beautiful sunset,

1005
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: beautiful mountains in the background. A terrible and I know

1006
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: you were on the field and you were not up

1007
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: in the stands, but maybe, like friends or family told

1008
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: you this, presumably everybody when that stadium was built was

1009
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: five foot six and one hundred and ten pounds. That

1010
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: is the most I have to dump. Ever, I believe that. Yeah,

1011
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: my family did say that. I mean I'm the biggest

1012
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: in my family, but my.

1013
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 7: Brothers that were there, my sister, my uncles.

1014
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 8: You know, they're all about six feet tall. So but

1015
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 8: they did say that.

1016
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 7: I thought the the stadium was cool. From obviously the

1017
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 7: field perspective, I wish our outcome could have been a

1018
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 7: lot different than we would have thrown the.

1019
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 8: Ball a hell of a lot more than we did.

1020
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 7: But it was really uh And our Purdue fans traveled

1021
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 7: so well.

1022
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:29,479
Speaker 8: I mean they are.

1023
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 7: I mean I still get people that I run into

1024
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 7: from work that are like we were at the Rose Bowl.

1025
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 7: I mean, it was there was huge rallies there. There

1026
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 7: were so many fans out there. And what's funny is

1027
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 7: a lot of people in like the La area where

1028
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,280
Speaker 7: Cassidy in the area thought Purdue was a an.

1029
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 8: Ivy League school. They literally we'd go the guys whould.

1030
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 7: Go out and you know, we have a drink or something,

1031
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 7: and then bartenders would be like, are you an Ivy

1032
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 7: League school?

1033
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 8: Like what are you doing out here? We're like, no,

1034
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 8: we're big ten.

1035
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 7: But obviously nobody from Produ's been out here since nineteen

1036
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 7: sixty seven.

1037
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 8: So but it was a great experience. I really enjoyed it.

1038
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 7: I wish I wouldn't snapped the ball over the punter's

1039
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 7: head the one time, but you know, than it was fun.

1040
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, fair enough, Tim Stratton, listen, soak it all in.

1041
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: Have fun this weekend. You know, if they beat USC,

1042
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: feel free to climb the goalpost, CrowdSurf, do whatever you

1043
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 1: want to do.

1044
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 3: Right.

1045
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, this tit, though, I might get arrested, so I

1046
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 7: don't know if that's I don't know if that's worth it,

1047
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 7: but you know, maybe maybe Purdue Caps will be nice.

1048
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 1: By the way, do you know what your Purdue was founded?

1049
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 8: Was it eighteen sixty eight?

1050
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: I think I'm looking this up.

1051
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 3: I'm looking this up.

1052
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 7: Ooh, I know eighteen eighty nine.

1053
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: I can't eighteen sixty nine. Basically, I'm may give it

1054
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 1: to you. That's good May sixth of eighteen sixty nine, right,

1055
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: And I'm sure you probably looked that up after. Of

1056
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 1: course you couldn't google it when Joe Tiller came in.

1057
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 1: But nonetheless, you know what I mean.

1058
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 7: Oh, no, gosh, no, you know that's but coach loved

1059
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 7: to like I said, if if you said you wanted

1060
00:48:58,360 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 7: to do something or you were going to do something,

1061
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:03,720
Speaker 7: he called out on it. So which I appreciated everything

1062
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 7: he said, even though at the time I didn't as

1063
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 7: an adult and as a parent, as a coach, I

1064
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 7: appreciate everything that all the coaches you know, taught us,

1065
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 7: and so I try to use that when you know,

1066
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 7: with parenting, with coaching, with you know, everyday life.

1067
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,760
Speaker 1: What do you do now, by the way, you mentioned coaching,

1068
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 1: what is life like for Tim Stratton?

1069
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 7: Now, you know I used to coach high school football.

1070
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,439
Speaker 7: I coached Division III football for a couple of years,

1071
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 7: then I coached high school. Then I went to grade

1072
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 7: school when my nephews were playing. Then I went back

1073
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 7: to high school, and then now I've stopped because my

1074
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:35,919
Speaker 7: kids got busy.

1075
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 8: So you know, I like to actually go watch my

1076
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 8: own kids.

1077
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 7: And then I've also.

1078
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 8: I'm a director of business development for an.

1079
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 7: Electrical contracting firm up here in Chicago, And so I

1080
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,760
Speaker 7: mean I used to have a little more freedom with coaching,

1081
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 7: But now that I decided to step away and actually

1082
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 7: watch my own kids, I miss it.

1083
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 8: But I don't miss it because.

1084
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 7: I think the generations are a little different now, meaning

1085
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Speaker 7: my personality and coaching personality is more like how I

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Speaker 7: was coached, right, how these kids are.

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Speaker 1: Now totally different era. Yes, that is correct.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 7: You know I'm not afraid to call a kid out

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Speaker 7: in front of people, and a lot of these kids,

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Speaker 7: you know, they can't take that anymore.

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Speaker 8: You know, the kids that want to.

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Speaker 7: Do well and want to excel, they accept it and

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Speaker 7: know it not meant from any other purpose of you know,

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Speaker 7: trying to hurt them. It's trying to help them improve.

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Speaker 7: But you know, you got a lot of these parents

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Speaker 7: that are living vicariously through their kids, so you know

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Speaker 7: they want to be involved in everything.

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Speaker 1: So I trust me, I totally get it. Totally get it.

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Speaker 5: Tim.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Man, Boiler up and enjoy it this weekend.

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 8: Thanks? So much.

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Speaker 7: Really appreciate you having me on

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Speaker 1: Tim Stratt and joining us on the program.