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Speaker 2: You good, Jake? How you doing?

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Speaker 1: I'm good? Is that an accurate description, by the way

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Speaker 2: But I mean it's still to this day. I still

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Speaker 1: You were like, wait, what are you talking about?

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Speaker 2: days going to hot stand. How any that that does

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Speaker 1: But I know you watch football. I know you spend

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, obviously the main player that's jumped out

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Speaker 2: And uh, you know what a great start they're on

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Speaker 1: Have you watched Ted Lasso Jeff, I have not. Let

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Speaker 1: I'm missing anybody there? Did I miss anybody?

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Speaker 2: Vikings?

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Speaker 1: Vikings, I say, okay, Vikings as well, and then just

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Speaker 1: to the left of that you would have Illinois Perdue

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Speaker 1: and Warren Central. When you look over all those helmets,

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Speaker 1: if you had to pick up one of them to

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Speaker 1: be able to put it on and instantly put yourself

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Speaker 1: back to when you played there that brought you the

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Speaker 1: most joy, it would be which helmet.

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Speaker 2: You're not gonna believe this, but the Warren Tomahawks before

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Speaker 2: my fifth and sixth grade travel ball, Warren travel ball.

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Speaker 2: It's you're a kid, You're just out there, You're man.

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Speaker 2: I was, Uh, we were pretty good and uh played

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Speaker 2: with all the guys that I played with it in

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Speaker 2: high school. Obviously, I think whenever you ask a quarter

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Speaker 2: or ask a football player what was the best part

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Speaker 2: or best time in your life when you played football,

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Speaker 2: and every I think almost everybody would say high school.

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Speaker 2: Friday night lit you that that that's the best. College

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Speaker 2: is great, you know, you're there for four years and

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Speaker 2: you know, but it's more of a you know, it's

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Speaker 2: just it's it's not high school. And then the pros.

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Speaker 2: It's a business, and you know, you have your ups

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Speaker 2: and downs, and you know, pros are great. NFL is awesome.

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Speaker 2: But for me, when it all started. Honestly, I mean

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Speaker 2: this sounds crazy, but I was a Warren Tomahawk in

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Speaker 2: sixth grade and we went, you know, made it to

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Speaker 2: the final game. And you know, to this day, I'm

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Speaker 2: you know, I I I can You'll remember every pass,

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Speaker 2: every past incomplete pass because we threw the ball a

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Speaker 2: lot in sixth grade and uh for me as well

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Speaker 2: as high school. Uh So to answer your question, my

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Speaker 2: Warren Tomahawk helmet, which I don't know where it is

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Speaker 2: to this day, I probably don't have it, but uh,

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Speaker 2: the high school as well, Warren Central put that helmet

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Speaker 2: up there. We're all began where it was all innocent.

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Speaker 2: You were just a kid and you just go out

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Speaker 2: there and then just played with all your buddies that

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Speaker 2: you grew up with, playing out in the yard sideyard, backyard,

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Speaker 2: you know, coming in at ten eleven at night when

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Speaker 2: it's you know, mom's calling you to you know, hey,

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Speaker 2: you got to come on in that give us five

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Speaker 2: ten more minutes. We're almost done. Uh you know what

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about. As we talk about just when it

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Speaker 2: that's when, that's when it it was. It was just fun.

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Speaker 1: So who beat the Tomahawks? When you got to the final.

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Speaker 2: Who beat you? The green Wood Wood Chuck. They came

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Speaker 2: up with some double a gap. It was like, you

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Speaker 2: know in the teens. It was teens. I couldn't fill

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Speaker 2: my hand. Lance Shyte's dad was our coach. He's yelling

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Speaker 2: at me, saying, you got hold on the ball, Hold

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Speaker 2: on the ball. My hands are frozen. I couldn't, you know.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling him, let's try and run the ball a

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Speaker 2: little bit. We're throwing it forty to fifty times in

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Speaker 2: the ten degree weather, and I think we got beat

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Speaker 2: like I don't even think we scored like seven and nothing.

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Speaker 2: I believe it was. But they kept coming with a

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Speaker 2: blitz through double a gap blitz, and you know, we're

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Speaker 2: a little sixth grader and we had no idea to

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Speaker 2: pick it up. And I'm taking one step getting hit

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Speaker 2: and getting sacked and not really sure of thinking to myself, man,

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Speaker 2: maybe I need to play baseball, get into baseball. So

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Speaker 2: I think that time became good in baseball because I

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Speaker 2: wasn't sure whether I liked football or not because I

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Speaker 2: got hit too much in Little league.

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Speaker 1: Damn those wood Chucks, That's all I gotta say.

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Speaker 2: Those darn Greenwood would check that's.

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Speaker 1: Right, Jeff. Appreciated as always, man great perspectives. Appreciate it

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Speaker 1: and look forward to talking to you again.

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Speaker 2: Sound good, Jake, anytime, thanksfull

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Speaker 1: Jeff George joining us on the program the former Warren

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Speaker 1: Tomahawk and Indianapolis Colt