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Speaker 3: Up and Adam.

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Speaker 2: Gonna be an interesting day today.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you've heard about this, but there

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Speaker 4: could be some some pretty big storms rolling through the

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Speaker 4: area later on today, So check your local weather report

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Speaker 4: and see what's going on in your world. We started

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Speaker 4: off this morning with a lot of dense fog, so

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Speaker 4: keep an eye on that. You might want to take

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Speaker 4: an extra five or ten minutes. Some of that's starting

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Speaker 2: But that's all on the day.

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Speaker 4: Later on we will have Indiana Pacers basketball tonight six

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Speaker 4: thirty airtimes seven o'clock tip as they take on the

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Speaker 4: Washington Whizzards. A lot of people are wondering, do we

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Speaker 4: need a doctor's note?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 2: How do we verify?

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Speaker 4: Andy wants to know on the text line and whoa

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Speaker 4: whoa whoa? Who's the independent third party that determines the

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Speaker 4: validity or severity of Pascal's personal reasons?

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Speaker 3: Kevin, Yeah, I do hope everything is okay with Pascal Siakam.

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Speaker 3: I sat in all seriousness. You know, too many times

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Speaker 3: I think I've seen personal on the injury board and

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Speaker 3: it's not something good. So I don't know. Every time

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Speaker 3: I see Personal, I'm a little husitant to even go

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Speaker 3: anywhere with that. So yeah, I hope everything's okay with him.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully you can rejoin the team soon and family wise

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Speaker 3: is good. We have seen this post All Star break

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Speaker 3: that you know, oftentimes the Pacers are like I would

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Speaker 3: say many teams let guys that play in the All

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Speaker 3: Star Game themselves. They set out those first couple of practices,

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Speaker 3: so it was over there yesterday. I didn't see Pascal Siakam,

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Speaker 3: for what it's worth, in practice. I don't even know

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Speaker 3: if I saw aaron Ne Smith, which I think he's

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Speaker 3: questionable with an actual lower back injury.

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Speaker 4: All right, So we've got that coming up later on tonight,

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Speaker 4: and again it'll be interesting to see when the Washington

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Speaker 4: Wizards take the floor, how many legit NBA players you

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Speaker 4: see playing there?

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Speaker 5: James, Yeah, we've seen a number of players get shut

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Speaker 5: down this season. I know Anthony Davis got shut down

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Speaker 5: a while back. I want to say yesterday the Dallas.

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Speaker 5: Mavericks said that Kyrie Irving would not come back from

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Speaker 5: his atl injury at the key injury last March. He's

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Speaker 5: gonna miss the full season, and I believe for the Kings,

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Speaker 5: both Zach Levine and the Monte Sabone has both got

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Speaker 5: season ending surgeries. I believe it was a hand for

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Speaker 5: Levine and a knee for Sabonis. So basically, anybody get

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Speaker 5: anything cleaned up, they're not playing the.

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Speaker 3: Rest of the way.

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Speaker 5: So we'll see how that impacts the rest of the

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Speaker 5: standings as we get down to the wire here. When

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Speaker 5: it comes to the chances of getting the number one pick,

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Speaker 5: and for the Pacers' purposes trying to get a top

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Speaker 3: He guess to get you to be a priority to

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Speaker 3: play Vita Zubats, I think so, Jeff shaking his head.

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Speaker 2: No, not immediately, not right away, like.

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Speaker 3: Okay, twenty seven games ago, Yeah, how many games you

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Speaker 3: want to see him out there?

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Speaker 2: I think, what did you say last week ten and

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Speaker 3: Do you feel like that would be beneficial to either

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Speaker 4: I think if he gets if he is fully healthy

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Speaker 4: and there's not a problem with an ankle. First of all,

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Speaker 4: players do want to play. It's what they do for

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Speaker 4: a living. I don't know how much he plays. Maybe

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Speaker 4: you monitor his minutes, but I think you want to

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Speaker 4: chunk of an entire season, don't you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you play.

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Speaker 5: And I go back to when the Pacers trade it

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Speaker 5: the end, and he kept playing. And so I think

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Speaker 5: that you get out there, get in the uniform, and

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Speaker 5: you try to at least give I think some tangible

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Speaker 5: proof to what you can bring to the team. Not

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Speaker 5: saying that your resume isn't what it already is. We

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Speaker 5: know what he'll bring, but I think getting out there

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Speaker 5: in theorize, here's what he's already doing, and things that

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Speaker 5: we can build around moving forward. Now it'll look different

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Speaker 5: with Tyre's Halliburton, but I would play him. But to

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Speaker 5: Jeff's point, a lot of it are probably limited around like, Okay,

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Speaker 5: how many minutes are we playing you?

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Speaker 3: And we're not going.

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Speaker 5: To obviously play you too much to the point where

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Speaker 5: a you reinjured the ankle or reaggravate something and be

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Speaker 5: the elephant in the room. Is that we're trying to lose,

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Speaker 5: so you will not be playing, you know, forty minutes

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I found it interesting. Yesterday Rick Carlile to practice

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Speaker 3: was really descriptive and describing what Zubots he feels like

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Speaker 3: kind of goes back to when Zubots meant the media

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Speaker 3: last week he mentioned like, you know, I need to

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Speaker 3: punish the smalls.

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Speaker 2: That was the.

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Speaker 3: Phrase that he used. Rick Carlisle echoed something very similar yesterday.

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Speaker 3: And it is a different type of center. That's probably

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Speaker 3: why I say it is because you know, when you're

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Speaker 3: playing with Miles Turner, his strengths offensively are very different

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Speaker 3: you look at it of like and to James's point,

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Speaker 3: he's spot on life with Tyre's Halliburton operated in offenses

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Speaker 3: very different than whatever your current iteration is a the Pacers,

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Speaker 3: but for a guy like Andrew Nemhart, for a guy

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Speaker 3: you got used to, oh my gosh, they have switched

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Speaker 3: a small guy on Miles Turner. Wow, that looks like

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Speaker 3: a mismatch. Oh wait, it's Miles Turner. He doesn't really

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Speaker 3: take advantage of that stuff. I'm probably not gonna throw

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Speaker 3: thinking with Turner when he got those matchups with Zubats.

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Speaker 3: That's a green light when if a small switched on

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Speaker 3: let him go to work. So is there any sort

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Speaker 3: of again, just kind of training of like no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: but we need our other guys to get used to

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Speaker 3: that of like no, no, no, this needs to be part

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Speaker 3: of our whatever offensive repertoire, if you will. He might

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Speaker 3: I am curious how much the Pacers look at the

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Speaker 3: final twenty seven games. Yes they want to lose, that

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Speaker 3: is very clear, But still do they try to sprinkle

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Speaker 3: in a little bit of zoobots for that aspect of it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be fascinating to watch and see how they play.

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Speaker 4: Just a little bit of a refresher coming out of

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Speaker 4: the All Star break. In the Eastern Conference alone, there

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Speaker 4: are three teams vying for the bottom. As you might

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Speaker 4: want to say, James, you got Brooklyn at fifteen and

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Speaker 4: Then New Orleans is fifteen and forty one. Sacramento seems

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Speaker 4: They have lost ten in a row. So that sets

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Speaker 4: the scene for you, Kevin, you were asking about Washington

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Speaker 4: doing what?

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Speaker 2: I look at their depth chart right now, what's going

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Speaker 3: These are the names of the Wizards players that played

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Speaker 3: the most minutes in their last game. Will Riley, Joy,

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Speaker 5: Doesn't ring a bell for most of them. Only no

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Speaker 5: Will Riley because he went.

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Speaker 3: To Illinois, and if Will Riley went to Iowa State,

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Speaker 3: you probably wouldn't know, no chance. Like I, Yes, I

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Speaker 3: think this is the group that we're looking at tonight. Mark,

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Speaker 3: do you haves audio?

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Speaker 7: James?

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Speaker 3: I think you maybe discovered this Lebron and Steve Nash right, yes,

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Speaker 5: And Steve Nash talked about the addition of zubots on

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Speaker 5: their Mind the Game podcast and what it could mean

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Speaker 5: for the Pacers and Tyres Halliburton.

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Speaker 8: Mark, I don't know if it's like Beg like still

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Speaker 8: hates the Lakers because of the trade or whatever.

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Speaker 2: But when he plays.

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Speaker 8: Against us man, he's a really I mean, I mean

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Speaker 8: he kicks our ass man. He's gigantic. I don't think

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Speaker 8: people A lot of people understand how his great hands

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Speaker 8: around the rim, great touch. You know, obviously he worked

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Speaker 8: well with James. That could have been something too, because

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Speaker 8: James play making ability. You know, they felt like once

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Speaker 8: they got off James, they felt like, you know, maybe

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Speaker 8: they could go get something for Zoo Bag because they

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Speaker 8: losing the play making them James. I think it's a

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Speaker 8: great pickup for for for Indy, especially going into the

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Speaker 8: future obviously after losing Moles Turner, obviously Tim Milwaukee, two

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Speaker 8: different players, but I think with Tyree's coming back at

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Speaker 8: some point with Zoo, I think it's gonna work well.

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Speaker 8: I mean, Zoo works well with play making point goings

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Speaker 8: or play making players, and ty Reese is one of

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Speaker 8: our best playmakers in our game. Obviously, you've seen what

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Speaker 8: Zoo was able to do the last couple of years

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Speaker 8: with James, so kudos to to Indiana bring him in there.

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Speaker 8: They saw his talent. He's still young, you know, relatively,

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Speaker 8: and things would be good, I think. I mean, I

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Speaker 8: think Tyree is going to love him.

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Speaker 9: Not the facer the Miles Turner was, but like he's

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Speaker 9: so good around the room, right, so he can play

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Speaker 9: in the role and play in the short pocket. Uh,

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Speaker 9: great hands around the rim, but also rebound.

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Speaker 8: Can rebound extra possessions, defends the rim.

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Speaker 9: So yeah, I'm excited for.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's kind of funny when you hear them

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Speaker 3: describe Zubots and Turner, you know from a sheer like

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Speaker 3: back of the basketball card. Turner six eleven two fifty

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Speaker 3: that's what he's listed at and Zubots is seven foot

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Speaker 3: two forty. That's not that different. But as we know,

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Speaker 3: Miles Turner really never played to that size and Zubots

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Speaker 3: fully placed that size. So that that is a question

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Speaker 3: I have for the final twenty seven games. Do you

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Speaker 3: feel like, because I hear it both ways, You've got

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Speaker 3: people on the text line saying you don't play Zubots

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Speaker 3: and you got people saying you playing fifteen to twenty

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Speaker 3: minutes a game. Is there any thought here? And Chad

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Speaker 3: Buchanan did say to Tony East that he feels like

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Speaker 3: Zubots will play here at some point. How much do

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Speaker 3: you view that being a necessary part. Is there any

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Speaker 3: sort of a hey, can you knock off any October

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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Speaker 5: That's always the case where it feels like every team

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Speaker 5: far as questions go, Mark, I have questions, if you

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Speaker 2: Your quick we could play that game with you.

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Speaker 3: I got questions. I like it.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go WHOA all right? I thought I

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Speaker 5: Let's go, we were talking about the Tiger Woods fandom.

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Speaker 3: Have a pop quiz for you all all right? First

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Speaker 5: Hey, you give an answer, I give an answer. First question,

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Speaker 5: what is Tiger Wood's real name?

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Speaker 3: All right, it's a tie. What state was Tiger Woods

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I was gonna say twenty ninth.

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Speaker 5: You got a thirty tie goes to the or the

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Speaker 3: There, I feel like I'm James Boyd's written all about me,

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Speaker 4: Here he's presented to participate in the preparation of these courts.

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Speaker 3: Is the first time, Yeah, both of you ever heard

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Speaker 3: of this? I thought we're going I got to know. Majors?

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Speaker 3: Has Tiger Woods? One? Fair enough?

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Speaker 3: One? All right? What year did Tiger win his last major?

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Speaker 7: All right?

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Speaker 3: How many children? Do you got to pick a winner?

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Speaker 5: Well, it's tied. I would say he won the one

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Speaker 5: on the How many majors he had?

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Speaker 3: Mark? He checked the audio on that. My twenty nineteen

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Speaker 5: Than no, I'm saying he said he had fifteen majors.

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Speaker 5: how many children does Tiger have?

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Speaker 3: Jesus again, a personal life of the man you're trying

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Speaker 3: that we know of is probably the best way to

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Speaker 2: Yeah? He played at Stanford for a year. I think

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Speaker 3: No, a couple years or so? Okay? And then where

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Speaker 2: Florida? Stories State just stappened this sum from last week.

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Speaker 7: There we go.

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Speaker 3: We got to get some real questions there.

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Speaker 2: I become on, man, how about this.

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Speaker 4: You should know this because it's I think it's fairly

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Speaker 2: How many PGA Tour victories is? He stuck on.

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Speaker 3: When Jeff said yesterday to me that he felt like

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Speaker 3: I was, I just know you got mad at me. Mark.

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Speaker 3: I did the gift of the like the excuse me?

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Speaker 3: You know, the guy blinking a lot, you know, he

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Speaker 11: I think I had left after that, but it was

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Speaker 11: not too far behind.

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Speaker 12: Oh man, people decide who won and Mark the best

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Speaker 12: part was he started off with he goes, low key,

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Speaker 12: I'm as big of a Tiger Woods fan.

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Speaker 3: It was off the air when I said that. It

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Speaker 3: Does that mean you're allowed to say anything after that?

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Speaker 2: Is that one of those with all respect?

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Speaker 13: Yeah?

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Speaker 11: Yes, he's like the Ricky Bobby mine. You can't just

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Speaker 11: say whatever you want me. He just can say no disrespect,

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Speaker 11: all right, But he did that. I thought it was

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Speaker 3: It would be like me saying to Jeff right now, Hey,

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Speaker 3: I know as much about Floyd Landis or Lance Armstrong

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Speaker 4: I think it might be a little different. I've covered

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Speaker 3: He's still mad.

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Speaker 2: He is still mad.

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Speaker 3: I thought we were I thought we were bonding that

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Speaker 12: Instead it is driven a wedge between us and again

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Speaker 12: Michael Michael Jordan, last dance scene, right, you took that

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Speaker 12: person took that Person'd be like again saying to Mark

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Speaker 3: By the way, Mark, did I see something? I think

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Speaker 11: I will take it with a grain of salt. Like

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Speaker 11: I'll start to believe it. But yeah, this is supposed

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Speaker 11: to be the big week for the Illinois legislature to

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Speaker 7: So we'll see what happens now.

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Speaker 3: I think he was speaking more towards the Indiana Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Have we heard any more about Iowa wanting to come

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Speaker 3: No, I think that was a BS.

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Speaker 11: But the Hammond situation, yeah, it seems like maybe the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I have lost many dollars there. I have not,

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Speaker 3: But you guys met in Vegas that should be your

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Speaker 3: I was going to say, yeah that that I ain't

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Speaker 4: The Venetian in Vegas and the Horseshoe and Hammond are

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Speaker 7: My friends.

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Speaker 5: Oh, he just called all of us broke. No, I

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Speaker 4: I don't know. We were talking about the Tiger Woods thing

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Speaker 2: Make an appearance at the Masters.

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Speaker 3: Indeed, he said that it is not a no yet

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and very quickly.

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Speaker 4: It seems to me with Purdue lately too, like they're

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Speaker 5: No, they haven't defended the three great all year, and

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Speaker 3: Get to Bray.

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Speaker 5: So one more Tiger Woods question. I think this is

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Speaker 5: a good Oh, here we go. You know, whoever gets

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Speaker 5: like that's fair enough. Here's a little of pressure for you.

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Speaker 5: So Tiger has won five Masters. I want to know

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Speaker 5: what's the biggest time gap between Masters.

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Speaker 4: Victories two thousand and six, two thousand and six or

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Speaker 4: seven to twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say twelve.

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Speaker 3: Years six two thy seven? Was Zach Johnson thirteen year

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Speaker 3: I thought it was five and sixty one he.

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Speaker 2: Won and O five I thought it was six oh seven.

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Speaker 3: Six of the PGA tournament. Oh my gosh, you guys

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Speaker 4: I think that, if I'm not mistaken, the Masters wins

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Speaker 3: Do you have him in front of you, Joe Chuck, Well,

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Speaker 3: there there's the victory. Then okay, there you go six

445
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Speaker 3: and seven PGAs any one thousand as well?

446
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Speaker 2: So yeah, PGA, about at your feet, Kevin Bowen.

447
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Speaker 3: I'll be expecting a pedicure later. You can't win with

448
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Speaker 3: that guy, Jeff.

449
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Speaker 2: I might send him to a place, but it won't

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Speaker 2: be from me.

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Speaker 3: There you go.

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Speaker 2: Good job, James. Now you know more about Tiger Woods, right,

453
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Speaker 2: I do?

454
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Speaker 3: I do.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry I didn't have, you know, some hard hating

456
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Speaker 5: questions here. I tried to keep it out of the

457
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Speaker 5: weeds for all listeners.

458
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Speaker 3: All right, we'll softballs from James boyd over.

459
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Speaker 2: There you go.

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Speaker 7: You know me.

461
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Speaker 5: I don't have heart hating questions ever.

462
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Speaker 4: We've got Bruce Webber and Joe Wrights. Yeah, coming your

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Speaker 4: way in the next thirty five minutes. Stay tuned is

464
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Speaker 4: ninety three to five and one of seven five the fan.

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Speaker 4: We welcome in our next guest here talk some college basketball.

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Speaker 4: We know him as a coach, We know him as

467
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Speaker 4: an analyst on Big ten Network.

468
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Speaker 2: We know him as a terrific guy.

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Speaker 4: Bruce Weber joins us on the Payless Liquors Hotline this morning. Coach,

470
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Speaker 4: you enjoying this college basketball season? Are you watching Olympics

471
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Speaker 4: like the rest of us? A little of both.

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Speaker 6: We kind of squeeze the in a little bit when

473
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Speaker 6: I'm at home, but obviously studio lots of basketball and

474
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Speaker 6: get on the plane and watch games when I can so.

475
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Speaker 6: But it's been fun. This is uh. I was just

476
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Speaker 6: texting with a friend, and this is the fun time

477
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Speaker 6: of year. You're you're trying to fight for those seeds

478
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Speaker 6: and in the NCAA tournament, trying to battle for conference championships.

479
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Speaker 6: And you got some really really good teams in the

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Speaker 6: Big Ten.

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Speaker 3: Coaches always, we appreciate the time. And let's start right

482
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Speaker 3: there with the best team in the Big Ten we

483
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Speaker 3: saw in Les Lafayette on Tuesday night. I can't recall

484
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Speaker 3: last time I've seen a team maybe this dominant, in

485
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Speaker 3: particular because the Big Ten is also so loaded, which

486
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Speaker 3: I think is adding to the impressive nature of Michigan.

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Speaker 3: Can you, I guess, recall a time we've seen a

488
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Speaker 3: team look like this and just their domination in some

489
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Speaker 3: of these point totals Michigan has put up.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, maybe maybe my zero five team were pretty good,

491
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Speaker 6: and but we didn't have the size they had. We

492
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Speaker 6: played small ball at that time, and if you go back,

493
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Speaker 6: we won by I don't know what our difference was

494
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Speaker 6: plus over fifteen a game. You know, we didn't have

495
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Speaker 6: They said we only trailed one time by nine points

496
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Speaker 6: or something. I heard that stat the other day. But

497
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Speaker 6: they're really, really good, There's no doubt about it. You know,

498
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Speaker 6: they got the size, they have the depth, they just

499
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Speaker 6: have toughness and that that kind of to me set

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Speaker 6: them a part. You go on the road and do

501
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Speaker 6: what they've done at Michigan State a Purdue just jumping

502
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Speaker 6: on people. It's really really impressive.

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Speaker 5: Bruce, Thank you so much for mentioning that this is

504
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Speaker 5: James Boyd Illinois alum.

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Speaker 3: So when you bring up five, that was my childhood

506
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Speaker 3: right there. So I get the flex on muscle's. You know,

507
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Speaker 3: when Illinois football lost Bob Million.

508
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Speaker 5: I I was feeling it for a few months and

509
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Speaker 5: now I'm from get a little swagger back here in

510
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Speaker 5: basketball season. But looking at the overall bigtown know you

511
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Speaker 5: touched on it a little bit, but how would you

512
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Speaker 5: evaluate the season that Purdue has had considering that they

513
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Speaker 5: still are in line to be you know, a three

514
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Speaker 5: year possibly even a two seed in the NCAA Tournament.

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Speaker 5: But they were the preseason number one, and they've kind

516
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Speaker 5: of hit some uh you know, snacks in the road.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and you know, I I talked to Matt off

518
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Speaker 6: and on and you know, they they've lost the big games.

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Speaker 7: You know, you're.

520
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Speaker 6: Talking Iowa State, Illinois, the you know, the key Keaton

521
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Speaker 6: Woggler game, which is, you know, just one of those

522
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Speaker 6: special special games and it happens, and and and then

523
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Speaker 6: obviously the Michigan game. They haven't been able to compete

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Speaker 6: with those, you know, those big dogs U C.

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Speaker 9: L A.

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Speaker 6: I thought they at the game they probably should have won,

527
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Speaker 6: and I and they probably feel that. But it's they're

528
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Speaker 6: still good. They're a very good team. As you mentioned,

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Speaker 6: they're going to be a high seed. They're they're gonna

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Speaker 6: have a chance. Teams, I don't think people always realize

531
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Speaker 6: teams get better or they get worse during the seasons,

532
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Speaker 6: and you know, you still have time to get better. Obviously,

533
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Speaker 6: Michigan's continue to get better. You know, you see Illinois

534
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Speaker 6: last night. They had those guys pieces back to the

535
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Speaker 6: to the equation with Sakovich and Boswell back.

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Speaker 7: They seem to get better.

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Speaker 6: So, you know, I think Purdue still has time to

538
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Speaker 6: make improvement, figure some things out. You know, they they're

539
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Speaker 6: very very efficient on offense, they're very good rebounding team,

540
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Speaker 6: but their defense has to get.

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Speaker 7: A little bit better.

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Speaker 6: I think if they're going to make any type of run.

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Speaker 4: Bruce Weber joining us here on the Payloss Lookers Hotline,

544
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Speaker 4: this morning. Let's talk about Darren Devrees' first year at Indiana.

545
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Speaker 4: Even came in literally has a brand new lineup. They're

546
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Speaker 4: hanging with teams. They got that win over Purdue a

547
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Speaker 4: couple of weeks ago. They've had some nice wins, they've

548
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Speaker 4: had some tough spots. How would you rate his first

549
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Speaker 4: year beginning to end so far?

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Speaker 7: I think he's done a really good job.

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Speaker 6: I had I had them early against Nebraska. Nebraska they

552
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Speaker 6: had him. I think it was fifteen eighteen points. They

553
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Speaker 6: were beating them at home, and Nebraska came back. They

554
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Speaker 6: unbelievable come back and beat him. And and Nebraska's really

555
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Speaker 6: good too. You know, they might not be in that

556
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Speaker 6: elite elite up at the top of those Michigan Illinois,

557
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Speaker 6: but you know, you they've competed with Michigan, and Illinois

558
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Speaker 6: beat him once, so they're good so it. But Indiana,

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Speaker 6: I like what he's done.

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Speaker 7: You know, a total new roster.

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Speaker 6: He's been able to find some nice pieces. The one

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Speaker 6: thing they don't have, and the rest of the Big

563
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Speaker 6: ten has us you know, really good size and some

564
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Speaker 6: inside force and that's been probably the difference maker. But

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Speaker 6: you know, I love Wokerson they've seen them gotten tougher

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Speaker 6: and that's allowed them to win some of these these

567
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Speaker 6: tough games down the streets, s Trench, beating Ucla on

568
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Speaker 6: the on the road, you know, the Wisconsin game, obviously,

569
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Speaker 6: the Purdue game, and that again, that's another ingredient. I

570
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Speaker 6: don't know if people realize that toughness. It's both the

571
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Speaker 6: physical toughness and the mental toughness that makes a difference

572
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Speaker 6: between you know, advancing to that Sweet sixteen, getting to

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Speaker 6: that eight, and then finally to the Final four.

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Speaker 3: And that's the voice of Verus Weaver. He's with us

575
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Speaker 3: here on the Payloss Slickers hotline. Coach. I think we've

576
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Speaker 3: done this with you now the last year or two

577
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Speaker 3: where we've had you on right around these Indiana Purdue games,

578
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Speaker 3: and we've asked you maybe some of your your your

579
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Speaker 3: memories of this rivalry in the past, if I could

580
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Speaker 3: spend it a little differently, you were on the Purdue

581
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Speaker 3: bench for I guess what nearly twenty years, if not twenty,

582
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Speaker 3: was there ever maybe an Indiana player, not you know,

583
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Speaker 3: not Alfered or Cheney, maybe like an underrated Indiana player

584
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Speaker 3: that when you got on the floor in those matchups,

585
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Speaker 3: you thought to yourself, Oh my gosh, I can't believe

586
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Speaker 3: that guy is still here and we've got a match

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Speaker 3: up against him.

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Speaker 7: There seemed to be.

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Speaker 2: A lot of those guys.

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Speaker 6: You know, that was the day where everybody stayed, and

591
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Speaker 6: not everybody at Indiana, but the ones that were good stayed.

592
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Speaker 7: Obviously.

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Speaker 6: I go way back to Isaiah that my first year.

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Speaker 6: You know, we had to faith him, you know, and

595
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Speaker 6: that that team was really really special. You you mentioned

596
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Speaker 6: Calbert Cheney Eric. You know a guy that brought to

597
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Speaker 6: my mind is Eric Anderson just consistent and and he.

598
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Speaker 2: Was there forever and got better and better.

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Speaker 6: And but you know, Calvert was so hard to guard

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Speaker 6: that whole team. You know, they they went small ball, coach,

601
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Speaker 6: and I when you know, he doesn't get credit for that,

602
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Speaker 6: I bet that. You know, they played small day year.

603
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Speaker 6: They switched everything, forced you to the sideline.

604
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Speaker 7: It was so hard to scoo.

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Speaker 6: They were good offensively, but they were really really good

606
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Speaker 6: defensively also.

607
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Speaker 2: So there there's a lot of oh J.

608
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Speaker 6: Edwards making a big shot again against US and beating us. Uh,

609
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Speaker 6: you know, just a lot of special memories it. You know,

610
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Speaker 6: I went through the Kansas case, State you know that rivalry.

611
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Speaker 7: Which is really good.

612
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Speaker 6: But to have Coach Knight and Coach Katie two Hall

613
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Speaker 6: of Fame, you know, Nasmith Hall of Fame coaches going

614
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 6: at it for all those years. Uh, the dislike of

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Speaker 6: each other, the craziness of some of those matchups.

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Speaker 2: The I mean, I go back.

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Speaker 6: Where he brought the mule out and to the TV

618
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Speaker 6: set and and then he knocked the when it was real,

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Speaker 6: the real they were doing his Sunday TV show, Coach Knight,

620
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Speaker 6: and he knocked the camera down and left the show.

621
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Speaker 6: And it was a live show, and Chuck Marlow didn't

622
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Speaker 6: know what to do if he had to turn on

623
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Speaker 6: the lights and go to commercials. So I mean, those

624
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Speaker 6: are you know, those are the crazy times us trying

625
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Speaker 6: to get out of town when we beat them and

626
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 6: the cars surrounding us and and you know we had

627
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Speaker 6: to call police to get out of town.

628
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 2: So you know those you know that that happened.

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Speaker 6: Now, social media, you know would go crazy and all

630
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 6: that stuff, but back then there was no social media,

631
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Speaker 6: no phones, all that stuff. But you just had to

632
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Speaker 6: be part of it and have those memories for a lifetime.

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Speaker 4: Bruce, I've only got a minute or two left, But

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Speaker 4: I did want to ask you about your thoughts on

635
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Speaker 4: Fad Mada picking up his five hundredth career win and

636
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Speaker 4: Butler getting the victory on the road last night against Georgetown,

637
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Speaker 4: and just your thoughts on coach.

638
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Speaker 6: You know, I give him credit for coming back.

639
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 7: I have.

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00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 6: I've talked to him several times along the way, you know,

641
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,719
Speaker 6: when he just said this was it. He used to

642
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 6: tell me, Bruce, I don't know how you do it.

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00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 6: So long Fad worked our camps at Purdue when when

644
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Speaker 6: he was coming up.

645
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Speaker 7: I still remember that.

646
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 6: I mean, we had that's that's in the day of

647
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 6: camps where you had really good coaches coming around because

648
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,479
Speaker 6: they wanted to learn basketball and and so I just

649
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 6: go back to him and watched his career.

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Speaker 7: It's been special.

651
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 6: Obviously what he did, you know, at Ohio State.

652
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 7: And now coming back.

653
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Speaker 6: I just wish him success and just it's cool that

654
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 6: he got the five hundred and I hope I thought

655
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Speaker 6: they were going to be a little better this year,

656
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Speaker 6: but you know, it's it's a tough league and in

657
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Speaker 6: the day of NIOL, you just never know what's going

658
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Speaker 6: to happen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of injuries too, coach, thanks so much

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Speaker 2: for your time this morning. We appreciate it. We hope

661
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Speaker 2: to talk to you down the stretch.

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Speaker 4: Here so that we got the final fore come of

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Speaker 4: the Indianapolis this year. So hopefully we'll have you on

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Speaker 4: a time or two more.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and I got to believe there's going to be

666
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Speaker 6: some big ten team there. It would be nice finally

667
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Speaker 6: if one of them would win the national championship. I

668
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 6: definitely think we have some contenders to get there.

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Speaker 7: And you know, they just got to stay.

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Speaker 6: Healthy and keep moving forward and keep improving. I think

671
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Speaker 6: that's what that's got to be a big key.

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Speaker 7: Down the stretch here.

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Speaker 2: Thanks coach, appreciate it.

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Speaker 6: Great to talk to you, guys.

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Speaker 4: Let's talk basketball at Pacers in their All Star break hiatus,

676
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Speaker 4: they'll be in Washington take on the Wizards.

677
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Speaker 2: They'll play the Wizards again tomorrow night.

678
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,959
Speaker 4: Both teams sitting at the bottom of the Eastern Conference

679
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Speaker 4: standings right now. Both teams want to make sure they

680
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Speaker 4: position themselves to have the best possible draft pick.

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Speaker 2: This coming year.

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Speaker 4: Well, already we know the PACER's been fined one hundred

683
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Speaker 4: thousand dollars for potential tanking activities and things like that,

684
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Speaker 4: and let's take a look ahead at what is termed

685
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Speaker 4: the second half of the season in the NBA.

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Speaker 2: For Indiana, we'll check in.

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Speaker 4: With our man the Fieldhouse Files Scott Agnes joins us

688
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Speaker 4: now in the Payless Liquors Hotline.

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Speaker 2: This is going to get creative and interesting. What do

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Speaker 2: you expect to see tonight, my man?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, good morning guys.

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Speaker 2: First of all, you never know what.

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Speaker 13: Happens between these two teams, right, It was just several

694
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Speaker 13: years ago when I think both you know, they combined

695
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Speaker 13: for like two hundred and sixty points in Washington, but

696
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Speaker 13: nonetheless very different circumstances here, with both teams looking closer

697
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Speaker 13: to the draft lottery than any postseason competition. Of course,

698
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Speaker 13: the Pacers won their last two games going into All

699
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Speaker 13: Star Break, but I think you're gonna see a mixed

700
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Speaker 13: match of lineups. Could probably Jeff for the rest of

701
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Speaker 13: the season and in them. Yeah, creative is probably a

702
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Speaker 13: thoughtful way here. I still like to see Zoubox make

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Speaker 13: his PACER's debut. I think that would be important for

704
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Speaker 13: a little bit. But outside of that, between Furfy obviously

705
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Speaker 13: out and then Haliburton topping, and and now how are

706
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Speaker 13: Siakam for this game in particular.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's what you'll also see.

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Speaker 13: Hearing we should probably highlight is it's an ample opportunity

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Speaker 13: now for some of the young guys, and the one

710
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Speaker 13: I'm thinking about most is Jerris Walker Scott.

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Speaker 3: We obviously have seen the one hundred thousand dollars fine

712
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Speaker 3: if you had to guess, and I fully acknowledge guessing

713
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Speaker 3: is probably the only thing we're doing here with how

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Speaker 3: much gray area the NBA has had in these punishments.

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Speaker 3: What do you think like punishment two and three would

716
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Speaker 3: look like? Like if the NBA deems the Pacers is whatever,

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00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 3: this is a defense one hundred thousand dollars fine. Do

718
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Speaker 3: you think it goes? Second offense is another fine? Third

719
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Speaker 3: offense is a draft pick removal? Or do you think

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Speaker 3: something else?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, so I believe it's it's like two hundred and

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Speaker 13: fifty thousand or five hundred thousands. The next one after three,

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Speaker 13: if I remember correctly, is where I'm it's kind of

724
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Speaker 13: gray area and we don't exactly know consult Lake. The

725
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 13: Utah Jazz have been fined before fourth. That's why their

726
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Speaker 13: fine was more substantial than the Pacers, whereas this is

727
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Speaker 13: the first time the Pacers had been fined for this capacity.

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Speaker 5: Scott, I know you mentioned there briefly that you would

729
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Speaker 5: like Zubas to make his debut with the Pacers this season.

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Speaker 5: Why is that because we were kind of debating that

731
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Speaker 5: earlier here on the show, like would you want to

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Speaker 5: see him this year? Do you just embrace the tank?

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Speaker 5: He's not playing with Halliburton anyway, so maybe what are

734
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Speaker 5: some of the pros and cons?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, and you can see it both ways, certainly, But

736
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Speaker 13: I'll stick with the pros on this front for a

737
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Speaker 13: little bit, I think one, and get certain things out

738
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Speaker 13: of the way, like playing in front of your home

739
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Speaker 13: fans for the first time, playing on the road for

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Speaker 13: the first time, learning what it's like with Carlisle as

741
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Speaker 13: the coach when he's shouting out plays and running a huddle.

742
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Speaker 7: When you're engaged within that.

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Speaker 13: But more than anything, James, I'd like to see him

744
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 13: get ample time with Siakam, with Nimhard, learn their tendencies

745
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Speaker 13: so that it's not one of those situations where you're

746
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Speaker 13: having to wait until the fall to do so.

747
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Speaker 7: And one of the similar.

748
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Speaker 13: But not exactly situations I point to with TJ McConnell

749
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Speaker 13: suffered a thumb injury several years ago could have or

750
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Speaker 13: I at the time figured Nay, he probably is not

751
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Speaker 13: going to return. What's the point here, and as such

752
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Speaker 13: a competitor that he was wanted to return, wanted to

753
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Speaker 13: be there for his team and wanted to help out

754
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Speaker 13: a little bit A little different situation there, but he

755
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Speaker 13: was like, I'm so glad I did because then, and

756
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Speaker 13: learning this from Paul George, you could make by coming

757
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Speaker 13: back for like four or five games at minimum like

758
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 13: PG did. His summer was not about Rehabit was not

759
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 13: about the newness or that. It's about, hey, let's just

760
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Speaker 13: turn the page to next season. And so that's where

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Speaker 13: I could see value in doing so.

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Speaker 4: Scott Agnes joining us from the Fieldhouse Files talk a

763
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Speaker 4: little Pacers right now. As we talked about this moment

764
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Speaker 4: ago as they get creative here down the stretch. I

765
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 4: thought it was very interesting that Carlisle said that they'll

766
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Speaker 4: manage the team as we see fit moving forward.

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Speaker 2: How does creativity look in this situation.

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Speaker 13: I think that's something they're probably trying to figure out

769
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Speaker 13: this week certainly, and that that goes on all different fronts.

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Speaker 13: I enjoyed Kevin Pritchett engaging with fans on Twitter to say, hey,

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Speaker 13: what are your feelings?

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Speaker 7: What do you think about this?

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Speaker 13: I thought Mark Cubans raised some good points other things

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Speaker 13: that maybe don't necessarily.

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Speaker 7: I see fit with some of this.

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Speaker 13: But I think it's a scenario, Jeff, where you're just

777
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Speaker 13: gonna have to play guys certain certain games and then

778
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Speaker 13: play them not in the other games. And I think

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Speaker 13: Rick is right in that front is Hey, look, I

780
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Speaker 13: know we're part of the collective, we're NBA, and we

781
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 13: got to look out for each other, but at certain

782
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 13: times you got to be selfish and look out for

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Speaker 13: your team, and for this team. I forget what the

784
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 13: number is, but it's been significant what this team has

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Speaker 13: done in getting to the playoffs, probably something like thirty

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Speaker 13: one of the last four years, something significant enough, only

787
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Speaker 13: behind I think the San Antonio Spurs, and so they

788
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 13: have been the model of getting to the postseason and

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Speaker 13: having that. But where they want to avoid is that

790
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 13: treadmill mediocrity. And part of what that you do is

791
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Speaker 13: make some strategic decisions, especially in a small market where hey, look,

792
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 13: we all know their circumstances. This year, it's not even

793
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Speaker 13: just a top draft pick. It needs to fall within

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Speaker 13: one to four or ten to thirty for them to

795
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 13: keep it because of the draft considerations here and so

796
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Speaker 13: it is an imperative that they can reach that threshold.

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Speaker 13: But then it's going to all come down to these

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Speaker 13: lottery numbers and the draft lottery coming up. I think

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Speaker 13: May tenth in Chicago.

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Speaker 3: I think we just got a big rock throw in

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Speaker 3: curling Stone. Is it stone or rock? Mark Dighton look

802
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 3: at Stone? Oh man, I think we did a good

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Speaker 3: job there.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: The Swiss have got one more throw. I'll keep you

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Speaker 3: posted here. Scott, you mentioned the Cuban aspect to it,

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Speaker 3: You know, Cuban for those that are not addicted to

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Speaker 3: Twitter like Scott and I. I mean, he was tweeting

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Speaker 3: a ton very long tweets. I'm always confused why they're

810
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Speaker 3: so long, but a lot of detail in just regards

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Speaker 3: to his taking experience. You know, what do you thinks

812
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 3: the NBA should do? Et cetera, et cetera. You mentioned

813
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Speaker 3: some things you like, some things you didn't like, and

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Speaker 3: Kevin Pritchard engaged him a little bit there on Twitter.

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Speaker 3: What did you like from Cuban? What didn't you like

816
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Speaker 3: from Cuban.

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Speaker 13: Well, well, number one I liked, even though I'm surprised

818
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Speaker 13: he did it was the transparency he was sitting there

819
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Speaker 13: staying saying, you know, hey, we tanked at this moment,

820
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Speaker 13: and we tanked here, and you know, we don't like

821
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Speaker 13: doing it, but we realized this is something that we

822
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Speaker 13: had to do. And so sometimes it's just seeing it

823
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Speaker 13: behind the curtain. You know it's talked about, but to

824
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Speaker 13: actually kind of see it and be discussed and publicly

825
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 13: like that, I'm guessing that's something the front office did

826
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Speaker 13: not enjoy. Kevin's trying to have one of your most

827
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Speaker 13: outspoken owners, even.

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Speaker 7: If he is of a minority share.

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Speaker 13: Right now, I think he's like twenty nine percent with

830
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Speaker 13: the Dallas Mavericks.

831
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Speaker 7: There the challenge, the challenge in all that I find here.

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Speaker 13: Is it's the positive from it is the hope aspect,

833
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Speaker 13: But are there other ways you can do so without

834
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 13: minimizing your product? Because that's the number one thing that

835
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 13: all these teams have to look out on is you

836
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 13: do not want to do devalue or water down the

837
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Speaker 13: product for these other strategic things. We like seeing strategic

838
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 13: in the game situations out of time out plays, how

839
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 13: you handle things. It's when this new factor comes in.

840
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 13: I'm not sure anybody knows exactly how to handle this

841
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 13: and is it healthy for the league, And so that's

842
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 13: where they've got to figure something out. But here's what

843
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 13: it's also telling us kV is all these executives love

844
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Speaker 13: this draft. If it's not just one two, but many

845
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 13: teams thinking this way, it says a lot about this

846
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Speaker 13: draft class.

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Speaker 2: Scott always good to talk to you.

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Speaker 4: One quick thing I'm curious, is we head down the

849
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Speaker 4: second half of the season now, or at least post

850
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 4: All Star Break at the beginning of the year, we

851
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 4: would all just said the way that Oklahoma City started

852
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 4: that it's a given they're going to repeat.

853
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Speaker 2: Right, Who's the best too many NBA right now?

854
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Speaker 13: I still think it's Oklahoma City Detroit. I think they're

855
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 13: going to have some growing pains. They have been incredible

856
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 13: this season in the Eastern Conference. Certainly Boston with the

857
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 13: threat of maybe they're not threat being enticement maybe of.

858
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Speaker 7: Tatum coming back is interesting.

859
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Speaker 13: But I think all eyes have to be out West

860
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Speaker 13: with OKAC number one, and it's thirst to beat because

861
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 13: they've just been so good when it matters most and

862
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 13: they and as long as they get their health right

863
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 13: shake Gil just Alexander has been injured for a handful

864
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 13: of games and that's really set them back a little bit.

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Speaker 10: All right, but I always get to talk to you,

866
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Speaker 10: thanks so much. As always absolutely enjoyable. He's got questions,

867
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 10: how about a game? They have got answers. They I'm

868
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 10: more of a you know, a corn hole man myself.

869
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Speaker 1: Sports music, movies, what high fashions.

870
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 3: Beat hantsl so hot right now.

871
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Speaker 2: And everything in between. You ever seen a foot with

872
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 2: four to two each time to get a glimpse into

873
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 2: the mind of Mark.

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Speaker 1: Dydon, Stop it, you're scaring me each time for I

875
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,720
Speaker 1: gotta know, Okay, you do punk.

876
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 3: I want a good, clean fight. Let's get it on.

877
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Speaker 11: All right, Well, let's start with the story of the day.

878
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 11: I will turn it to you guys. If the Bears

879
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 11: do in fact move to Northwest Indiana, which is just

880
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 11: an insane question in the first place, does that mean

881
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 11: the Colts themselves could move in the near future, because

882
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 11: does the NFL really want two NFL franchises in Indiana.

883
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 5: No, I'm gonna say that the Colts stay put in Indianapolis,

884
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 5: because I'm talking about legacies here, Mark, and you don't

885
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 5: want your legacy as the new owners of the team,

886
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 5: those being the three daughters of jim Irsay moving their

887
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 5: franchise out of a place where they really built up

888
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 5: the economy in like downtown in Indianapolis.

889
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 4: Look, I know that the DNA of the franchise is

890
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 4: they moved here from Baltimore, So I get that. But

891
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,720
Speaker 4: one of the things I think that jim Irsay did

892
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 4: and he was committed to, was really bonding with the

893
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 4: city of Indianapolis and even the state of Indiana. I

894
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 4: think his daughters want to keep that thing going. I

895
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 4: think there's a terrific business and fan and every other

896
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 4: kind of relationship going on between that team and this area.

897
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 4: I can't even fathom, even in the wake of the

898
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,760
Speaker 4: passing of jim Ersay, I can't even fathom.

899
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 2: That they wouldn't be in Indianapolis.

900
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, Mark, I'm going to understand your premise of like

901
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 3: with the NFL, well, you know, view whatever two teams India.

902
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,720
Speaker 3: I still not going to view Chicago as an Indiana team.

903
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 11: I mean a lot to be in Indiana playing games

904
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 11: on Indiana soil.

905
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 2: What are you talking? Says the Chicago native.

906
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 3: Hey, I'm just saying, you know, again, where do the

907
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 3: Jets and the Giants play?

908
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 8: Like?

909
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 5: I've established this plenty of times.

910
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 3: So I don't necessarily view like the NFL all of

911
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 3: a sudden being like, oh my gosh, we can't have

912
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 3: two teams in Indiana. We've got to take the Colts

913
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 3: out of there now. I mean, you know, from a

914
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 3: Nursey family standpoint, there are many people have asked about, hey, well,

915
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 3: the finances with the team right now and Inheritan tax

916
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 3: and all that. So again, I don't expect anything by

917
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 3: any means eminently. And you look at the Seahawks yesterday.

918
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 3: It's a very different situation. You know, Paul Allen had

919
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 3: it in his will that he wanted the Seahawks and

920
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 3: the Trailblazers to eventually sell and then take that money

921
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 3: and film topically distribute it. So that's very different than

922
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 3: not to pretend that I know Jim Ursy's will, of course,

923
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 3: but I can't imagine Jim Mersey had that. Okay, let's

924
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 3: go to some Colts talk here.

925
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 11: Some interesting articles coming off as the free agency period

926
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 11: and new league window is about to open. Bill Barnwell

927
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 11: had a just a gigantic article. I feel like you

928
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 11: need to, like probably take a nap and then read

929
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 11: it again. There's so many words, and he must get

930
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 11: paid by the word. But he had one of the

931
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 11: trades he wants to see in the offseason, and it

932
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:25,280
Speaker 11: featured the Colts, and specifically it's figatured Michael Pittman Junior

933
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 11: going to the Carolina Panthers. So Michael Pittman and a

934
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 11: twenty twenty six to seventh round pick. In response, the

935
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 11: Colts would get wide receiver Xavier Lget and a twenty

936
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,879
Speaker 11: twenty six fifth round pick. And he said, obviously there's

937
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 11: still potential for Michael Pittman Junior, but the Colts seem

938
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 11: to be focusing on signing Alex Pearsty with an extension.

939
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 11: Could that mean that the Colts could get something for

940
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 11: Michael Pittman Junior instea the outright releasing him or anything

941
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 11: like that.

942
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 3: They get a probably.

943
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:54,240
Speaker 11: Lesser wide receiver and Xavier Lagett, and they also recoup

944
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 11: a fifth round pick. Would would be open to the

945
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 11: Colts listening to offers for Michael Pittman Junior.

946
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

947
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 5: I think that anytime you have a player that you're

948
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 5: contemplating just outright cutting and you have a chance to

949
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,720
Speaker 5: recruit some draft capital more importantly than perhaps even a player.

950
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 5: I'm not a big get guy. I don't think he

951
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 5: had a very good season in Carolina. I don't really

952
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,280
Speaker 5: think that he's all that good of a player right now.

953
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 5: But yeah, if you can take a flyer on him

954
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 5: and get some draft capital, why not. But I do

955
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,760
Speaker 5: wonder if that's even a real scenario for the Colts.

956
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, to me, it's a little unrealistic to expect the

957
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 3: team to absorb Michael Pittman Junior's cap situation and give

958
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 3: you a draft back. Yeah like that. It just seems

959
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 3: it seems great, but it doesn't seem like real life.

960
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 3: To James's point, I do think, and I've said this

961
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,800
Speaker 3: all a long about Pittman, as much as I would

962
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 3: give the money to Pierce over Pittman, if you're debating

963
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 3: those two, if you let Michael Pittman Jr. Walk for

964
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 3: whatever reason, wide receiver becomes a notable need and you

965
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,919
Speaker 3: have to do that in some way, shape or form.

966
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 3: Like if ad Mitchell is stilling the roster, you could

967
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 3: maybe say, hey, look, we feel like it's Don Mitchell's time.

968
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 3: There's you know, Ashton Dolan to me, love the guy,

969
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 3: but yeah, you can't expect him play fifty sixty snaps

970
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 3: for seventeen weeks offensively, so wide receiver would become a

971
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 3: definite need.

972
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 2: I agree on that, but.

973
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 4: I'll also tell you to back your I've seen him

974
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 4: play in person a bunch of times. Xavier Lagette is

975
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 4: not a legitimate big time NFL wide receiver. He can't

976
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 4: catch the ball, He makes mental mistakes. He's really struggled

977
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 4: with Carolina in his first two seasons.

978
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 7: There.

979
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 4: If you want to get something back for Michael Pittman,

980
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 4: I'm all for that.

981
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 2: But please don't give me Xavier Lagette. Good by the way,

982
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 2: terrific kid, but.

983
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 3: It just sucks.

984
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 4: Just can't play, just can't just can't catch. It's tough

985
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 4: when you play wide receiver in the NFL. It's tough

986
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 4: when you can't catch.

987
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 7: That is true.

988
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,879
Speaker 3: Okay, no relation to Kevin Bowen, I don't think.

989
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 11: But Matt Bowen of ESPN had his fifty top players

990
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 11: and the best fits for.

991
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:51,879
Speaker 3: Each of them.

992
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 11: At the top of the board, he had Trey Hendrickson

993
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:59,919
Speaker 11: and the best team fit, the Indianapolis Colts. He says

994
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,240
Speaker 11: Colts general manager Chris Valor can make a big splash

995
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 11: laying the top free agent on our board, and hendricks

996
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 11: will reunit with defensive coordinator lou and Roumo.

997
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:09,720
Speaker 3: Curious your thoughts.

998
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 11: Would you like to see Trey Hendrickson sign with the

999
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 11: Colts or would that go against Chris Ballard saying they

1000
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 11: need to get younger and faster defensively.

1001
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, the name I've mentioned is Adapa away from the Chargers,

1002
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 3: a little bit younger, not the recent injury history that

1003
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 3: Trey Hendrickson has, So yeah, I'd be a little hesitant. Obviously, Hendrickson,

1004
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 3: when healthy, has been an extremely great pass rusher, But

1005
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 3: I just worry about the age and the health, which

1006
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 3: I feel like I said that about a lot of

1007
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 3: Colts players. I'm good with taking a flyer on him.

1008
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,240
Speaker 3: I don't want a long term deal.

1009
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 5: But hey, one year deal, one year flyer on Trey Hendrickson,

1010
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 5: were you not able Luin Aroumo perhaps.

1011
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:51,879
Speaker 3: Feeling healthier than he was last year.

1012
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,280
Speaker 5: I'm good with it because I think realistically, you can't

1013
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,919
Speaker 5: say you want to get younger and faster, and that'd

1014
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 5: be like a hard and fast rule for how you

1015
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 5: build your entire defense. You're gonna have to make some

1016
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 5: concessions in different parts of your roster. So again that's

1017
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 5: where I get into the whole younger and faster versus

1018
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 5: they've been productive, versus their relationship with Juanna Romo. I

1019
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 5: think that's Raskin is worth. Is somebody worth adding to

1020
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 5: your roster if you can and if it doesn't work out, hey,

1021
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 5: just one year.

1022
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 3: Deal and is what it is.

1023
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 4: James, I'm all in on that if they could get him.

1024
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 4: I don't know quite how they could make that work.

1025
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 4: While they have to address some of the other needs

1026
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 4: that they have. They have to get creative, and I'm

1027
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 4: all for it. But it was very interesting when we

1028
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 4: were listening to Joe Wright's about an hour ago, when

1029
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 4: he was saying, you know, he was used to blocking

1030
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 4: guys that were in their mid thirties. Now they were

1031
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 4: tremendous guys, and he was talking about Robert Mathis.

1032
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 2: And some of those guys.

1033
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 4: He said, they know how to rush the passer and

1034
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,879
Speaker 4: they still had plenty of physical ability to do so

1035
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 4: keep him healthy. I think Hendrickson still did. He can

1036
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,280
Speaker 4: still be a game wrecker at times.

1037
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 5: And again his salary wouldn't be as big as it's

1038
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 5: been a year's past. So that's why probably Lane toward

1039
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,879
Speaker 5: at least trying to take see if he and him,

1040
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 5: Bradley Chubb, somebody of that older variety perhaps joining the

1041
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 5: cult next year.

1042
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,760
Speaker 11: All right, last, but not least, what are we watching, folks?

1043
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 11: What do you got on your streaming services? What are

1044
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 11: you firing up this weekend? Or what have you watched? Well,

1045
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 11: Curling Kevin showing his phone, Curling.

1046
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 3: Swift Swiss about to throw the hammer. No boy, I'm

1047
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 3: gonna say a Night of the Seven Kingdoms.

1048
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 7: Ooh.

1049
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:23,399
Speaker 5: It's a Game of Thrones world type of show, and

1050
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 5: it is fantastic. The episodes are about thirty minutes long,

1051
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 5: so it's not like a very heavy lift to watch it,

1052
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 5: and I enjoy it. I think it's one of the

1053
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 5: best shows on TV. I's not the best show on

1054
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 5: TV currently, so I am all in on that show.

1055
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 5: And also bring back thirty minute shows.

1056
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

1057
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 5: Every show does not have to be an hour. I

1058
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 5: love thirty minute shows. Get a little fixed and then

1059
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 5: off to bed.

1060
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie.

1061
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 11: That's more intriguing to watch it because I kind of

1062
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 11: got sick of House of the Dragon, because I'm like,

1063
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 11: good lord, every episode is an hour long and it's

1064
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 11: just a it's a hard watch and everything.

1065
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,399
Speaker 3: But I've heard good things about that. In effect, it's

1066
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 3: thirty minutes. I'm gonna have to tune in. There you go.

1067
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 4: I'm all in on the last few days of the

1068
00:47:58,280 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 4: Olympics to start with. But I don't know if you

1069
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 4: guys have watched it or see much about it. I

1070
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 4: keep my head keeps getting tugged to industry. Do I

1071
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 4: want to go watch industry?

1072
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 3: I think James said he did not like that.

1073
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 5: I finished the first season. I have not pressed start

1074
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 5: on season two.

1075
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 2: Sami, okay, doing something else.

1076
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm never going to tell anybody not to

1077
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 5: watch it. Check it out, see if you like it

1078
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 5: for yourself. But it's a wild show. And I would say, Jeff,

1079
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 5: if you do watch it, I mean, I get your

1080
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 5: kids are like grown now, but it's still it's a

1081
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 5: crazy show. I probably would never watch it with anybody

1082
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 5: else because, yeah.

1083
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:31,919
Speaker 2: I got to talk to my kids into watching TV.

1084
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 2: They don't watch These kids don't watch TV anymore. They

1085
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 2: watch their phones and whatever.

1086
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 4: They want to do.

1087
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 13: There.

1088
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, everyone's on the leg the laptop, biopad or phone.

1089
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 11: Ashley and I watched roof Man over the weekend. It's

1090
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:45,280
Speaker 11: on Paramount Plus. It's a movie with Channing Tatum Kirsten

1091
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,879
Speaker 11: dunst Oh. For this, it was actually pretty good. It's

1092
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 11: a true story about a robber who hides out in

1093
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 11: a Toys r us for a long length of time

1094
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 11: as he evades police after breaking out of prison.

1095
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 3: It was really enjoyable.

1096
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 11: It's like just under two hours, a solid easy watch Roofman.

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Speaker 4: You know what, I found myself just kind of binge

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Speaker 4: watching me while I was in the background. I was

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Speaker 4: doing some other stuff this past weekend. Maybe it was

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Speaker 4: because Catherine O'Hara had passed away, But Shit's Creek still

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Speaker 4: a funny.

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Speaker 7: Funny show.

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Speaker 11: Say you that on air?

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Speaker 2: I just did. It's the name of the show. It's

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Speaker 2: the name of a person.

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Speaker 7: S C. H.

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Speaker 3: T Okay, I'm not dumping it.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 4: Final updates, closing comments, closing arguments coming your way next

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Speaker 4: ninety three five one oh seven five The Fan