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Speaker 1: Line from ball Heartland and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: People over there at ABC are reporting that Iran may

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Speaker 2: be activating sleeper cells outside the country.

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Speaker 3: No, is that right? Sleeper cells? Huh? Well, I guess

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Speaker 3: that means that these.

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Speaker 2: Cells existed long before the United States and Israel engaged

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Speaker 2: the attack. I guess Iran has been a threat for

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Speaker 2: far longer then. Maybe some people in the wook right

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Speaker 2: with political left realize, I, for one, am shocked. You

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Speaker 2: are not, because you're a normal person. Tony Katz.

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Speaker 3: That is me.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Tony Katz today. Good to be here,

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Speaker 2: Good to be with you. Find everything I do over

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Speaker 2: at Tony Katz dot com, live streaming on the YouTube,

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Speaker 2: on the Twitter X, on the Facebook, on LinkedIn. Just

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Speaker 2: look for me and you will find this fantastic show.

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Speaker 2: We know that the Iranians have put in a new leader.

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Speaker 2: This new leader is the son of the Ayatola. We

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Speaker 2: know that he is a hardliner. We know that he

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Speaker 2: is well entrenched with the IRGC, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Court.

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Speaker 3: Most de bah kahmani m oj t a Ba.

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Speaker 2: He is the new Supreme Leader, which means he has

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Speaker 2: to go because in order for any of this to

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Speaker 2: be successful in this attack on Iran, there can be

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Speaker 2: no remnants of the Iatola, the Iatolas family, or anything

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Speaker 2: like it in power. They simply cannot be a part

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Speaker 2: of the equation. We know that right now America is

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Speaker 2: taking a look at oil prices that.

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Speaker 3: Are through the roof.

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Speaker 2: We know that over the weekend we saw maybe it

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Speaker 2: was Friday, and it ended this way, one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 2: dollars a barrel on the West Texas crew, never mind

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Speaker 2: the brend crew, and there were just pennies separating them.

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Speaker 2: The Brench crewed which comes out of the oceans, usually

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Speaker 2: like three four or five dollars within that range, higher

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Speaker 3: This was within pennies.

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Speaker 2: We saw it over one hundred dollars, well, cracking one

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Speaker 3: Just below one hundred bucks.

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Speaker 2: President has spoken out against this and said it was

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Speaker 2: a small price to pay short term oil prices, wrote

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Speaker 2: the President on truth social which will drop rapidly when

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Speaker 2: the destruction of the Iran nuclear threat is over, is

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Speaker 2: a very small price to pay for USA and world

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Speaker 2: safety and peace. Only fools would think differently, he added

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Speaker 2: in all caps to let you know he was serious. Well,

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Speaker 2: you got to go out there and sell that, mister President.

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Speaker 2: You got to go out there and explain it to people.

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Speaker 2: And it's very hard to sell something to people when

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Speaker 2: the only thing they're hearing is the Tucker Meghan Candace,

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Speaker 2: Dave Smith set saying.

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Speaker 3: This is a forever war and Israel's leading us into war? God,

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Speaker 3: is that dumb? Now? I want to make sure that

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Speaker 2: It is a ridiculous argument that I'm more than happy

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Speaker 2: to counter.

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Speaker 3: With fax logic and reason.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that Israel needed to drag like it

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Speaker 2: could drag Donald Trump into.

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Speaker 3: War if there weren't already other threats out there?

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Speaker 2: No, Israel has been discussing the threats that is Iran

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Speaker 2: for years, even when other nations didn't want to discuss it,

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Speaker 2: because it's Israel that was constantly under threat and other

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Speaker 2: And now I have the conversation of sleeper cells. The

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Speaker 2: US has intercepted encrypted communications believed to have originated in

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Speaker 2: Iran that may serve as a quote operational trigger unquote

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Speaker 2: for sleeper assets the alert, which was reviewed by ABC

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Speaker 2: sites preliminary signal analysis of a transmission likely of Iranian origin, Yes,

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Speaker 2: to terrorist regime, to terrorist organization supporting other terrorist organizations

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Speaker 2: engaging an act of terrorism against the United States, and

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Speaker 2: anybody who might be against them. Oh, let's just call

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Speaker 2: them Israel. No wonder. We both have a very very

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Speaker 2: keen interest in taking out the Iranian regime. And only

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Speaker 2: the ridiculous person who refuses to recognize reality would say

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Speaker 2: this is ridiculous, this is preposterous.

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Speaker 3: This is just a forever war. Well, there are no

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Speaker 2: There is no proof of this. I take you now

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Speaker 2: into the flashback.

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Speaker 3: How do I How do I.

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Speaker 2: Do this praductional land and I gotta do this full

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Speaker 2: Wayne's World style?

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Speaker 3: Yeah right?

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Speaker 2: Or is it more like is it that? No, it's

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Speaker 2: not like that. You sound like you're on a video

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Speaker 3: I thought Batman flashbacks right.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, this was all of like six seven months ago.

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Speaker 2: This was Tucker Carlson on his show talking to Ted Cruz.

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Speaker 3: Now you'll remember that.

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Speaker 2: Interview because Ted Cruz didn't know what how many people

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Speaker 2: lived in Iran. You want to go to war with

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Speaker 2: this country. You want to go to war with them?

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Speaker 2: You don't even known people live there. I don't even

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Speaker 2: I don't even make sense to me. I don't even

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Speaker 3: That is my Tucker impression. That's not bad. It's not great.

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Speaker 3: It's not bad.

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Speaker 2: Like you get the general idea, I could do better.

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Speaker 2: I'm no rich, little rich little reference. Dear lord.

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Speaker 3: The average age of the audience is ninety two thousand

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Speaker 2: Tucker is interviewing Ted Cruz. This is how the conversation went.

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Speaker 5: But I just want to pull that thread because it's

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Speaker 5: so important. I voted for Donald Trump. I can't paign

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Speaker 5: for Donald Trump. He's our president and won in the

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Speaker 5: Customable War. So if Iran, if there's evidence that Iran

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Speaker 5: paid hitman to kill Donald Trump and is currently doing that,

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Speaker 5: where's that? What are you even talking? I've never heard

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Speaker 5: that before. Okay, where's the evidence? Who are these people?

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Speaker 5: Why haven't they been arrested? Why are we not at

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Speaker 5: war with Iran? That's a great question to ask.

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Speaker 4: How do you know that that's true?

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Speaker 6: We know that it's true because we have been told

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Speaker 6: last two years. We meaning who Congress has in the public.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I had multiple testimonies I can send you as.

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Speaker 5: We know the names of the people are where this

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Speaker 3: We do not.

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Speaker 6: We have not apprehended an Iranian hit man trying to

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Speaker 6: kill him. We know that Iran is trying to do

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Speaker 5: Yes, And by the way, like Iran, what seems like

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Speaker 3: I didn't know that Iran.

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Speaker 5: Put out a whole video about murdering Trump, right, but

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Speaker 5: I've never heard evidence that they're hitman in the United States,

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Speaker 5: I mean, trying to kill Trump. Right now, we should

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Speaker 5: like have a nationwide dragdad on this, and we should

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Speaker 3: Is that right?

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Speaker 2: We should attack Iran immediately, if it's true that there

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Speaker 3: As if Merchant is his name.

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Speaker 2: A forty seven year old hired a hitman in New

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Speaker 2: York to kill American officials and targeted US President Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump in twenty twenty four. Tuta, you think we're surprised

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Speaker 2: by sleeper cells. You didn't know this, Tucker. Now I'm

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Speaker 2: complain about how he's treated. Tucker, you did this to yourself.

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Speaker 2: This is the conversation you wanted to have. We're more

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Speaker 2: You're the one who is shameful in your nonsense, in

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Speaker 2: Tucker reaches a lot of twenty two year olds and

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Speaker 2: nineteen year olds, and we have to do something about

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Speaker 2: that by sharing a different message that is far more

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Speaker 3: It's okay to.

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Speaker 2: Recognize that there are enemies in this world, and sometimes

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Speaker 2: you're gonna have to kill that enemy and even though

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Speaker 2: Children who somehow think that if you leave everybody alone, they're.

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Speaker 3: Gonna leave you alone end up dead.

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Speaker 2: And I know this because there are sleeper cells in

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Speaker 2: they've been activated. I know that this guy just got

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Speaker 2: sentenced for trying to kill Donald Trump in an Iranian

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Speaker 2: backed plot. I don't know what else you need. How

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Speaker 3: My answer is zero. Maybe just kill the terrorists before

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Speaker 2: Could we please be thinking about this and talking about

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Speaker 2: in fear of what the terroritors of Iran might do, Tony,

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Speaker 2: If they're not living in fear, what a ridiculous amount

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Speaker 3: Is named Dave Smith.

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Speaker 2: They're here, We've got plots to take out the president.

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Speaker 2: And your answer is do nothing. They didn't bother us.

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Speaker 2: Why is Israel dragging us into this war? Maybe Israel

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Speaker 2: we have a president who's willing to recognize that, you know.

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Speaker 3: What, these people are a threat. Maybe he's not Joe Biden.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he is not the BS artist, Barack Obama, an

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Speaker 2: Barack Obama did that and the Bedroads Tommy Vittore, bullcrap set.

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Speaker 2: Those people should not be listened to because they've been

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Speaker 3: You're a twenty something, you want to start your life.

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Speaker 2: I think you're better off starting your life without the

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Speaker 2: threat of these terrorists, lowlife, sons of you know what,

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Speaker 2: and to remove them, it's going to involve missiles and

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Speaker 2: guns and soldiers. You don't want to send these people

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Speaker 2: into war. You're not wrong for that feeling. Allow me

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Speaker 2: and what is the difference between the fantasy and reality.

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Speaker 2: The reality is the terrorist organization that is an Iranian regime,

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Speaker 2: supporting Hesbela, supporting Hamas, supporting sleeper cells, supporting plots against

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Speaker 3: They're here now, and what you want, what we all want,

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Speaker 3: which is to be left alone.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't match up to the reaction of what they want

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Speaker 3: And say now is the time.

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Speaker 2: The time was ten years ago. By the way, guys,

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Speaker 2: the time was twenty years ago. The time was long

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Speaker 2: So the war in Iran continues, and yes, I say war,

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Speaker 2: How does the United States continue to maneuver and do

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Speaker 8: Hey, Tony, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 9: Let's you and I today coin a new phrase, not

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Speaker 9: good for your long term interests. So again, this was

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Speaker 9: Not military adventurism. If the military is used as the

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Speaker 9: That's all we're trying to get Cuba to do, trying

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Speaker 2: people to bring this up. The Chinese saw what we

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Speaker 2: did with Nicholas Maduro and they said that's impressive. The

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Speaker 2: world saw exactly what the United States can do when

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Speaker 2: it applies itself. Now you see what's happened with Iran.

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Speaker 2: Does China say the same thing.

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Speaker 9: It's in their best interest that they should. And you know,

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Speaker 9: Donald Trump when he meets with the Chinese leaders, I

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Speaker 9: guess in the end and this month or next month,

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Speaker 9: they'll have a lot more leverage considering that the United

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Speaker 9: States when the situation goes in Iran, well, and we'll

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Speaker 9: control a lot of more than that we have right now,

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Speaker 9: really has China's energy security in the palm of our hands.

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Speaker 9: Hard to say that that would have happened six months ago,

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Speaker 9: but the fact that we've stopped these ghost shipments coming

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Speaker 9: from Venezuela, then unsanctioned oil that they were taking from there,

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Speaker 9: and then plus twenty percent of whatever they're getting out

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Speaker 9: of the Strait of Hormusin and the Middle Eastern spot.

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Speaker 8: Now again that's got to be fixed.

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Speaker 9: We recognize that this commodity is very volatile, and shutting

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Speaker 9: down the straits hurts India, Japan, hurts some of our.

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Speaker 8: Eastern allies as well.

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Speaker 9: But China now is really coming to grips with the

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Speaker 9: fact that when the United States says it's going to

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Speaker 9: do something, it's going to do it, and so it

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Speaker 9: should pay attention. It's proven its military equipment is not

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Speaker 9: up to speed, and that's because it's likely copied from

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Speaker 9: US factories.

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Speaker 8: But they didn't get the whole thing, and then they

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Speaker 8: try to improvise.

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Speaker 2: Now, wait, you're jumping ahead of me, but you brought

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Speaker 2: it up, so let me go with you. The talk

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Speaker 2: was was that the Chinese dropped off a lot of

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Speaker 2: missiles to the Iranians, helping them gear up in case

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Speaker 2: this moment would come. The talk after that has been

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Speaker 2: that the Chinese missiles have failed spectacularly and that this

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Speaker 2: is an incredible embarrassment for the polit Burero for ji Jinping.

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Speaker 2: What Chinese weaponry of any has been used and what

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Speaker 2: is the take on its efficacy?

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Speaker 9: Well, they have had some missiles deployed there that have

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Speaker 9: not gotten through, have not failed in that.

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Speaker 8: Regard, but mostly their air defense systems.

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Speaker 9: In the last six months, the air defense systems that

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Speaker 9: they deployed were used to re establish what they had

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Speaker 9: prior to that midnight Hammer attack along with what Israel

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Speaker 9: did back in June, and they failed miserable. They were

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Speaker 9: out in the first forty eight hours. I mean, it's

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Speaker 9: just not heard of, unheard of. If you want to

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Speaker 9: be a superpower, you have to be able to project power,

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Speaker 9: and if you can't project power to your proxies like

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Speaker 9: like they've.

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Speaker 8: Tried to do, then frankly, you're not a superpower.

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Speaker 9: You know, for whatever reason we've given up this century

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Speaker 9: to the Chinese, you're just acquiesced and said that because

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Speaker 9: of the billion people they have or their technology they're manufacturing.

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Speaker 9: You know, they tried to get upstream and all our

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Speaker 9: supply chains and that's over now as well. So to me,

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Speaker 9: this is such a pivot point within our history, on

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Speaker 9: the history of our country.

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Speaker 8: Two hund fifty years young.

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Speaker 9: The United States is, but we're not given a sentry

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Speaker 9: up for one second to the Chinese. And so I

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Speaker 9: think that's the message that they're going to get received.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know if it was John Yu or

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Speaker 2: Gordon Chang who and I agree with this, and I

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Speaker 2: have said this before that I believe China is a

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Speaker 2: paper tiger. There's a lot of bluster, a lot of screaming,

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Speaker 2: a lot of tough guy. Can they actually take a

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Speaker 2: punch to the nose? They build aircraft carriers. They can't

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Speaker 2: take off from an aircraft carrier. They can't necessarily land

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Speaker 2: on an aircraft carrier. This is hard technology. They steal

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Speaker 2: a tremendous amount as you were mentioning, they don't create

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Speaker 2: a tremendous amount of things.

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Speaker 3: They only take.

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Speaker 2: So if you are the if you're the rest of

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Speaker 2: the world watching this, and you are looking at things

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Speaker 2: and believing as you are in that China has shown

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Speaker 2: themselves to be a little bit incapable here and not

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Speaker 2: as strong, and they are now behind the eight ball,

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Speaker 2: and now they're looking in that weakernest kind kind of position.

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Speaker 2: What is the effect on, for example, Taiwan's safety insecurity

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Speaker 2: or security of the Pacific room in general.

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Speaker 9: Well, the Chinese could learn a lot from Russia, and

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Speaker 9: that is they can influence Taiwan without taking it. I

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Speaker 9: don't understand this desire or this need to necessarily do that.

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Speaker 9: And what I mean by Russia is Russia decides to

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Speaker 9: invade Ukraine.

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Speaker 8: They really didn't have to that area.

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Speaker 9: In the Dome Boss, they controlled all the politicians, They

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Speaker 9: controlled a great portion of what was going on inside

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Speaker 9: the Ukraine governments. But that wasn't good enough. Well, I'd

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Speaker 9: give the same advice with the Chinese. There's no reason

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Speaker 9: to start a conflict over that. Destroying Taiwan doesn't do

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Speaker 9: any good. And then taking a step further now back that,

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Speaker 9: I'm not sure they can do it now anyway without

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Speaker 9: the energy security that's required. You want to start a war,

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Speaker 9: you better have oil reserves and you better be able

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Speaker 9: to support this conflict if it goes for a long time.

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Speaker 9: So I think the Chinese, which are passive anyway in

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Speaker 9: terms of how they think are going to really rethink

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Speaker 9: about all of their actions when it comes to projecting

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Speaker 9: power on the Pacific.

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Speaker 2: Before I let you go, Major Mike Lyons, retired United

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Speaker 2: States Army. You talk about regime compliance, if that is

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Speaker 2: indeed the case, there's a real question about boots on

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Speaker 2: the ground, because in order to get regime compliance, are

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Speaker 2: we making the argument that the IRGC gets to stay

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Speaker 2: and terrorize these people, because that doesn't seem to be

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Speaker 2: something that Americans would be super keen on. Do you

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Speaker 2: see a situation we're in order to get that compliance.

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Speaker 2: I still don't know if I totally buy into the

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Speaker 2: term where we see American boots on the ground or

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Speaker 2: would this be NATO boots or are there any boots

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Speaker 2: on the ground.

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Speaker 9: So yeah, regime compliance meaning that we're not going to

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Speaker 9: parachute some leader in from the outside like happened in

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Speaker 9: seventy nine when Colmini came back and took over. So

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Speaker 9: I think that's what I mean. This person will come

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Speaker 9: from within is what's important. But boots on the ground, right,

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Speaker 9: there's an implied task there. No one wants to talk

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Speaker 9: about this, but there's an implied task of having troops,

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Speaker 9: US troops, somebody to go and check out these nuclear

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Speaker 9: facilities to make sure that they've been destroyed, to make

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Speaker 9: sure that that capability is gone.

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Speaker 8: I think that's going to.

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Speaker 9: Be insisted upon whoever again finally does surrender, or that'll

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Speaker 9: be part of the deal that we'll have to make

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Speaker 9: with that person. But again, boots on the ground doesn't

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Speaker 9: mean large formations the first Armored Division and sixty main

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Speaker 9: battle tanks, Bradley fighting vehicles, air defense flavor, that's not

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Speaker 9: what that means. But I do think that there's going

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Speaker 9: to be small unit troop jasock level special operators that

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Speaker 9: are going to have to go check to make sure

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Speaker 9: that they're in compliance for what we want them to do.

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Speaker 3: US, Israeli, NATO, who.

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Speaker 9: All of the above, and you know what this is

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Speaker 9: going to be. Victory has a thousand fathers. Defeat is

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Speaker 9: an orphan to quote JFK. Once this victory has been established,

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Speaker 9: everybody will be in the game. The Briddest will be back,

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Speaker 9: the French, he'll be back. Everybody will going to want.

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Speaker 4: A piece of this.

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Speaker 8: So the buckle up. We'll have to see what their

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Speaker 8: actions are going to be.

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Speaker 3: Maybe not the maybe not the Brits. Maybe they can

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Speaker 3: maybe they can sit this one out.

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Speaker 2: Major Mike Lyons, retired United States Army military analyst.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate you being with us. More to come. I'm

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Speaker 3: Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz. Today. I'm going to

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Speaker 3: share with you.

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Speaker 2: The audio the embarrassment for Adam Schiff. Now, I don't

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Speaker 2: think there's any cursing in this. There poticial landon, but

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Speaker 2: finger on the dump button just in case.

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Speaker 3: This was Bill Maher's show, Real Time all behind his

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Speaker 3: right here. Did you hear this? This was something else.

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Speaker 2: This is Bill Maher asking Senator Adam Schiff a question.

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Speaker 10: Statement from the administration the President had the constitutional authority

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Speaker 10: to direct the use of military force because he could

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Speaker 10: reasonably determine that such use of force was in the

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Speaker 10: national interest.

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Speaker 3: That's too vague for you.

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Speaker 10: Totally vague, okay, because that's from Obama about Libya.

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Speaker 11: Well, Obama made the argument initially that he could go

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Speaker 11: into Syria without an authorisation. I and many others pushed

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Speaker 11: back on that argument. Ultimately, he did not go forward

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Speaker 11: with going after Assad even though Aside was gassing his

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Speaker 11: own people, because he thought he might lose the.

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Speaker 2: Vote in Congress, so Congress was unwilling to say Asad

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Speaker 2: had to go even though he's gassing his own people.

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Speaker 3: It's none of our concent.

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Speaker 2: The argument here is that the War Powers Act allows

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Speaker 2: the president to engage in actions, and the idea that

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Speaker 2: something is too vague is not necessarily a fact when

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Speaker 2: we're talking about an act versus the idea of declaring war,

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Speaker 2: which is a different action altogether. Obama did it, and

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Speaker 2: then it's like, well, actually Obama did it, right.

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Speaker 3: It's the same sentence, it's the same statement.

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Speaker 2: You say the statement is vague, way too vague because

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Speaker 2: you thought it was Trump. When Obama said it, well,

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Speaker 2: you see he did a different stop it. The same

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Speaker 2: rules applied. And if Congress wants to get rid of

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Speaker 2: the War Powers Acts, get rid of it.

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Speaker 3: Go right ahead. Can't stop you. You're the you're the

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Speaker 3: members of Congress. You're the ones who can do this.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead and do it.

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Speaker 2: Knock yourself out. But don't say when it's Trump it's

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Speaker 2: too vague, and when it's Obama, well, you see, he

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Speaker 2: was really smart. By the way, you got to give

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Speaker 2: a shift credit. He was able to turn on a

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Speaker 2: dime the minute he heard that.

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Speaker 3: And he also he never asked himself way away? Is

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Speaker 3: that factual?

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Speaker 2: And let me see, give me this, never took a state,

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Speaker 2: never wanted to engage that way. And if you think

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Speaker 2: a statement is too vague, you say, whoa, bah, whoa.

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Speaker 2: I don't care who said it. The statement's too vague.

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Speaker 2: Then you go into it. But you know the whole line.

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Speaker 2: It's only bad because Trump is doing it. We see you,

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Speaker 2: we see you, Adam Shift, and we think you're full

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Speaker 2: of it, completely full.

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Speaker 12: Of it.

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Speaker 3: Because you are.

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Speaker 2: Oh you also lied about RUSSI, Russia, Russia, and for

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Speaker 2: that you should be thrown out of the Senate.

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Speaker 3: Keep it here, it's Tony Katz today. Line from Baal,

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Speaker 3: heart Blind and the.

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Speaker 1: Crossroads of America. It's Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: I'll be shedding no tears for Tucker Carlson. He has

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Speaker 2: done this to himself. And when I see him out

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Speaker 2: there saying to Megan Kelly, everybody's after me. I don't

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Speaker 2: know why they're after me. It's just I'm just I'm

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Speaker 2: speaking honestly. I don't even I'm just how dare anybody

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Speaker 2: make the claim that somebody disagreeing is simply unacceptable. How

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Speaker 2: dare anybody claim that someone noticing a serious change in

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Speaker 2: someone's point of view isn't worth it noting? And how

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Speaker 2: there's someone who has worked so hard to build such

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Speaker 2: an audience think that somehow people aren't going to listen

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, I forgot if I said hello,

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Speaker 2: I forgot sometimes.

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Speaker 3: But it's good to be with you. I bring this up.

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Speaker 2: Because there has been a serious number of clear contradictions

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Speaker 2: that Tucker has engaged.

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Speaker 3: In over and over and over again.

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00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 2: And all this has to do with Israel and some

663
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 2: people wondering, you know, is he broke in?

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Speaker 3: Is he bought and paid for you know? Is he

665
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Speaker 3: paid for it by guitar?

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Speaker 2: I have absolutely no idea, and I continue to say

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Speaker 2: I have no idea.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. All I know is is that him

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Speaker 3: and Megan Kelly don't know what their plan is.

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Speaker 2: And I will admit that with Megan Kelly, I've never met.

671
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 3: I never figured out how she got the second chance.

672
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 3: I still don't get it.

673
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Speaker 2: There she is on Fox and she was massive, and

674
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Speaker 2: then she holds the debate. She's the host of the

675
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Speaker 2: debate and the moderator proper word with Trump in that first.

676
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 3: Term, and she's a mess. She was argumentative, it was ugly,

677
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 3: and it was unforgivable.

678
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Speaker 2: You cannot make yourself the center of the conversation.

679
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 3: In a debate as the moderator. You can't do it.

680
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 2: And then she was gone from Fox and she went

681
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 2: to NBC and that show was an unmitigated disaster. And

682
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 2: while I think that the reasons that she got pushed

683
00:38:56,200 --> 00:39:01,720
Speaker 2: out was real garbage from NBC, she was doing things

684
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 2: over there that she would now tell you're the worst

685
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 2: things in the world, Like the most famous one is

686
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Speaker 2: what can only be looked like is a celebration of

687
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:19,280
Speaker 2: trans kids. Can't celebrate the abuse of children. You can't.

688
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 2: It's just it's it's not okay. There's no there's no

689
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 2: place for this, you know. It's like, I don't know,

690
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Speaker 2: I don't know if you've seen this.

691
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 3: Where the.

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Speaker 2: Candidate, the Democratic candidate for Senate in Texas, his name

693
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 2: is uh Tall Rico James Tall Rica and he is.

694
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Speaker 3: Asked on some.

695
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 2: Podcast I don't even know the name of the podcast.

696
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:01,919
Speaker 2: He's asked on a podcast cast, what do you love

697
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 2: you know, outside of of of your family, and and

698
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 2: and uh, and your uh and your friends. What do

699
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:14,479
Speaker 2: you love? And he says, well, because they were here

700
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Speaker 2: yesterday trans children.

701
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Speaker 3: Sure what who who talks like that?

702
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 2: Who in the world would say such a thing, because

703
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 2: they're standing up for themselves. So you're saying you're proactively

704
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Speaker 2: in favor of child abuse. Because if you allow a

705
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Speaker 2: child to mutilate themselves or take puberty blockers ruin themselves

706
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 2: via chemical castration, that's not.

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Speaker 3: Love, that's that is nuts.

708
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Speaker 4: But the.

709
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 2: Megan Kelly and Tucker and what we referred to as

710
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Speaker 2: this woke right and this anti Israel agen and to madness.

711
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 3: I cannot tell you if they're paid or not paid.

712
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 3: What I can tell you.

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Speaker 2: Is that it is absolutely unacceptable and I'm not going

714
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Speaker 2: to pay attention to Tucker Carlson tell me I can't

715
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 2: notice this level of I guess we would call it hypocrisy,

716
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 2: But how about just insanity.

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Speaker 5: I think US aid military aid to Israel and the

718
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Speaker 5: implied security guarantees, some explicit but many implied security guarantees

719
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Speaker 5: of the United States to Israel probably haven't helped Israel

720
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Speaker 5: that much long term. You know, it's a rich country

721
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Speaker 5: with a highly capable population. Like every other country. It's

722
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Speaker 5: probably best if it makes its decisions based on what

723
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 5: it can do by itself. If that country couldn't exist

724
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Speaker 5: without not for a week without US backing.

725
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Speaker 3: American's supporting Israel because it's not alive. I don't even

726
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 3: know what those words mean. Just saying Michael, I mean

727
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 3: they don't know what that means. To be that Guitar.

728
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Speaker 5: It's like one of our closest allies in the world.

729
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Speaker 5: The largest American air base in the Middle East is

730
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Speaker 5: in Guitar. They're a close ally of ours. Let me

731
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Speaker 5: get to the nub of the question, since again a

732
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Speaker 5: lot is at stake, A lot of money is at

733
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Speaker 5: steak Land is very valuable. Israel's a lot of resources.

734
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Speaker 5: We have a huge country. This is the country that

735
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Speaker 5: size in New Jersey with no resources. If I come

736
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Speaker 5: to Israel and the infrastructure, if we're flying in, and

737
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Speaker 5: I said to my buddy, I was like, man, the

738
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Speaker 5: looks first of looks great. I love the agriculture in

739
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Speaker 5: Israel because it's beautiful. I love green, I love plants.

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Speaker 8: I remember when it didn't look like that. Yeah, yeah,

741
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Speaker 8: the first time I came in fifty three years ago.

742
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Speaker 3: It's great.

743
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Speaker 5: The Israel, which is one of the single ugliest countries

744
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Speaker 5: in the world. Nothing of beauty has been built there

745
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 5: since nineteen forty eight. Sorry, I've been everywhere in that country.

746
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Speaker 5: And it's true.

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Speaker 3: We're only a minute in a minute twenty. How dare

748
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Speaker 3: you say I shouldn't notice? Did you crazy?

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Speaker 2: Everybody's noticing, everyone is noticing that you've lost your mind, Tucker,

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Speaker 2: Did I mention I was only a minute twenty in? Okay,

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Speaker 2: all right.

752
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Speaker 3: We'll do more.

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00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 4: Amas Is uh.

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Speaker 5: You know group of Jihattis, their Islamic extremists, which they

755
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,439
Speaker 5: also claim constantly, which I don't know if that's true.

756
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Speaker 3: By the way, it seems more like a political organization.

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Speaker 6: Race of eyebrows this week, when you said that amass

758
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 6: is more like a political organization than a terror group.

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Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't Actually, I didn't say.

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Speaker 5: I didn't say that an attack on Western civilization looks

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Speaker 5: like this.

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Speaker 13: It's tribalism, it's identity politics, it's dei, it's whatever, it's Zionism,

763
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 13: it's it's any belief system that begins with the understanding

764
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,439
Speaker 13: that one group is morally superior to other groups, which

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Speaker 13: is done principle.

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Speaker 5: Like every other group in the world has the right

767
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 5: to its own homeland except white people. Like what, I

768
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 5: don't think in terms of groups, as Christians or Westerners.

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Speaker 3: We think in terms of the individual. It's literally that simple.

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Speaker 5: But as long as some groups have a rate self determination,

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Speaker 5: then every group has a rate.

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Speaker 3: It's that simple. How dare you think we shouldn't notice?

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Speaker 2: I mean, we're gonna notice, by the way, that was

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Speaker 2: compiled by the Milk Bar TV on Twitter. Actually can

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00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 2: follow them there. I don't know them personally. I don't

776
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Speaker 2: even think I do follow them, but that's who compiled that.

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00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 2: We notice, Tucker that you, in just the past few

778
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:50,919
Speaker 2: months have engaged in outrageous contradictions. Why in the world

779
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 2: should I listen to you about any of this? The

780
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 2: problem is there are people who are indeed listening, and

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00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 2: those people are your kids, your grandkid, and you possibly

782
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 2: twenty three year old men are listening. And that's why

783
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 2: you see numbers that forty five percent of young Americans

784
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 2: think that Jews are a threat.

785
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 3: We cannot deny when people have influence.

786
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 2: You cannot deny when people are able to move a message.

787
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 2: What is the message being moved? What I would do

788
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 2: is show this what milk Bar TV put together.

789
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Speaker 3: In this one.

790
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 2: Again, I don't know anything about I don't know anything

791
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 2: about them at all. But the video doesn't lie. This

792
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 2: is Tucker in his own words, these things have to

793
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 2: be shared. Why would you follow this guy. I'm not

794
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 2: saying someone can't change their mind, but this isn't changing

795
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 2: their minds.

796
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 3: This is flat out lying.

797
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 2: In some cases, this is saying whatever needs to be

798
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 2: said at the moment because it fits whatever it is

799
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 2: they're trying to get done at the moment. And that

800
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Speaker 2: is not having a philosophical core, That is not having

801
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 2: a basis. That is not sharing an idea or if

802
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 2: you will, an ideology, that is engaging in populism. And

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00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 2: what serves me now, that's what the left does. For

804
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 2: the left is progressive. What they said yesterday will have

805
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 2: absolutely no bearing on what they say today, and what

806
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 2: they say today will mean absolutely nothing to what they

807
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 2: say tomorrow won't mean a thing. So we have to

808
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 2: ask ourselves what kind of damage is being done by

809
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 2: Tucker not because he believes something, but because, as the

810
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 2: video shows and as the audio just heard shows, he

811
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 2: doesn't actually believe in anything.

812
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 3: That's the problem.

813
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 2: If he believed in something, he wanted to defend it

814
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Speaker 2: with a level of consistency.

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Speaker 3: Well, that would be one thing. Then we could debate

816
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 3: that issue.

817
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 2: What am I supposed to debate with the guy who's

818
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,280
Speaker 2: on every side of the issue depending on the day.

819
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 2: Why would anyone trust him? Why would anybody look to

820
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 2: him as having value? And I say this knowing that

821
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 2: there are a great number of Americans when he was

822
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 2: at Fox who looked at him as a guy.

823
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 3: They looked to him as a guy having value. He

824
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 3: had value there.

825
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Speaker 2: He was engaging in conversations nobody else was talking about.

826
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:56,760
Speaker 2: And so we are perfectly clear he was starting news cycles.

827
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 2: Tucker's greatest strength was being able to start the news

828
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 2: cycle because he said it, people were talking about it.

829
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 3: That's rare.

830
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Speaker 2: That is a rare, rare ability. That is real power.

831
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Speaker 2: He went from that to whatever it is you just heard?

832
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 2: That nonsense, that problem, that crap, and then he says,

833
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 2: I don't know why people are after me. No one's

834
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 2: after you, but we are noticing. And if you think

835
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 2: I can't notice, you're out of your damn mind. So

836
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 2: now the question is what is it we can do

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00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 2: about this? Because a guy like this now, not the

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00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 2: tucker of then, the tucker of now of a guy

839
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 2: like this is having sway over you, your kids, your grandkids.

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00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 2: You have a responsibility to say out loud, why the

841
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 2: hell would you listen to him? He's so full of crap,

842
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 2: he can't see straight. He'll take any position, any chance

843
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,240
Speaker 2: he gets, just to satisfy the moment.

844
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Speaker 3: That's not consistent.

845
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 2: You want consistency in an idea, in a philosophy.

846
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 3: Now you may go pay you know, I want to

847
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Speaker 3: hear what they have to say. I want to hear

848
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 3: what they have to say. I want to hear they

849
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Speaker 3: have to say.

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Speaker 2: But you engage with the thing that is more consistent

851
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 2: with the value. What is the value system he's putting

852
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 2: forth here? You know I shared earlier where he said

853
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Speaker 2: to Senator Ted Cruz back in.

854
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Speaker 3: That interview about six months ago. Maybe it was a

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Speaker 3: little bit longer.

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Speaker 2: If we had proof that there were people out there

857
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Speaker 2: trying to murder the president, we should go after them.

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00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 2: And then you have the story about this Pakistani national

859
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 2: who had ties to a ram found guilty applotting to

860
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 2: assassinate politicians and officials and including President Trump.

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Speaker 3: In twenty twenty four, we have the reporting from ABC

862
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Speaker 3: that discusses the fact that there may be sleeper cells.

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Speaker 2: Being activated right here in the United States. That's the

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Speaker 2: reporting Iran maybe activating sleeper cells outside the country.

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Speaker 3: The encrypted transmission was intercepted by the US. I mean,

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Speaker 3: this is what's happening.

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Speaker 2: And Tucker said to Ted Cruz, if they were coming

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Speaker 2: after President Trump, we.

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Speaker 3: Should bomb them. Well, we know this to be true.

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Speaker 3: So what is your plan? What's your plan?

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Speaker 2: Is it to bomb them? Because that's what we're doing.

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00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 2: And you you are opposed to it. Why you said

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Speaker 2: it was the thing to do and now you're opposed

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Speaker 2: to it?

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00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:15,320
Speaker 3: Tucker? Why? But really, you're not going to get a

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00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 3: chance to ask Tucker that question. So the people to ask.

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00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 2: That question are the people in your lives who are

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00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 2: quoting him. Kids, grandkids, friends, brothers, sisters, uncles.

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00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 3: Why where's the core here?

880
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Speaker 2: Where is the ideological thread, the through line that shows

881
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 2: his position and the thoughts behind it?

882
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 3: And the answer is it's nowhere. It's nowhere. Is he

883
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 3: bought and paid for?

884
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 2: I have absolutely no idea as he lost his mind.

885
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,240
Speaker 2: I have absolutely no idea. I'm not about to guess

886
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 2: and I am not about to impugne. I'm going to

887
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 2: listen to what he says and say out loud. He

888
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 2: isn't saying anything that makes sense at all. He is

889
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 2: not consistent, It is not complete. It is not a

890
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 2: thought that I would ever put into my mind and say,

891
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 2: now that has a value. And I don't think you

892
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 2: would either. So why are you still paying attention to him?

893
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:28,240
Speaker 2: He's shown you he doesn't want your attention, doesn't deserve

894
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 2: your attention.

895
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 3: No, no, he wants it.

896
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 2: He just doesn't deserve it. You might want to go

897
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 2: over that with the ones you love. I'm Tony Katz.

898
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 2: This is Tony Katz today. So this LA Marathon story

899
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 2: has got a lot of people worked up.

900
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 3: I agree with you that we live in a world

901
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 3: of weak people and weak minds.

902
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,280
Speaker 2: And you say to me, Tony, you couldn't run a marathon,

903
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 2: and I would say to you, yeah, you're right about that,

904
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:57,720
Speaker 2: Tony Katz.

905
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 3: Tony Katz to that you're right about that. But a

906
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 3: marathon is twenty six point.

907
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:10,359
Speaker 2: Two miles asked the Greeks, and the LA Marathon.

908
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,439
Speaker 3: Gearing up, and it was going to be a high

909
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,280
Speaker 3: of eighty four degrees. Okay.

910
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 2: Now, I lived in Los Angeles for a while I

911
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 2: lived in the valley. Trust me, it got hotter than

912
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 2: eighty four degrees. So what they said is is that

913
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 2: if you're having a tough day, oh dear lord, and

914
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 2: you want to end your race before twenty six point

915
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 2: two mean twenty six point two miles, you can choose

916
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 2: to take the turn at mile eighteen and head into

917
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 2: the finish line early. You don't need to tell anyone

918
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 2: about the decision. Just take a detour and if you

919
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 2: look for the signage, you'll be able to do this.

920
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 2: You will still receive your finisher medal and any challenge

921
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 2: metal you've earned, and your official race results will be

922
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 2: updated at a later date to reflect your time and mileage.

923
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 3: There is no shame in making a smart decision.

924
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 2: For your body. I agree. That's why I eat steak

925
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 2: steak delicious. Right, It's see it's the Old Time Night

926
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 2: Live bit with John Belushi. I've had little chocolate tonuts

927
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 2: at my training table for years. If you need to

928
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 2: make the smart decision for your body and not finish

929
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 2: the marathon, Okay, you didn't finish, why the hell would

930
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 2: you get a finisher's medal? Why would you ever deserve

931
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 2: a finisher's medal. That's for people who finish. You didn't finish.

932
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 2: No crime in that, no shame in that.

933
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 3: Hey you're good. Boo boo.

934
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 2: No metal for you, no soup for you, no metal

935
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 2: for you. No, it's embarrassing. You don't get a finisher's medal.

936
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 2: You don't even get like a two thirds medal. You

937
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 2: get like a thanks for showing up. Hope you enjoyed

938
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 2: the jog medal. The people who are looking at this

939
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 2: and laughing out loud, those people are right.

940
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 3: This is Sony. This is Tony Katz today. Three more

941
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 3: things to get.

942
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 2: To Tony Katz. Tony Katz today. These are stories that

943
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 2: you have heard some about you need to hear more about.

944
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 2: Of course, wars dominating, oil prices are dominating, but there

945
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:46,320
Speaker 2: are some other stories that do require your attention.

946
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 3: Let's start where we start. Did you hear about this

947
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 3: guy who evaded ice by running into a school.

948
00:55:55,000 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 2: It's we're in a level of absolutely insane here. So

949
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 2: there's this guy who's a known agitator. He is a

950
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,720
Speaker 2: known ice agitator. This is what he does, a social

951
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 2: media influencer. God Almighty, I swear if I'm ever known

952
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 2: as a social media influencer.

953
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 3: Just just I don't know what to do.

954
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 2: I don't know what, but it's probably some kind of

955
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 2: violence that needs to be thrust upon me, you know,

956
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 2: like the treasure.

957
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:26,839
Speaker 3: We just punched me in the face, but someone's gonna

958
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 3: be like, oh, I can't wait to punch him in

959
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 3: the face.

960
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 2: And then I don't know if I want to be

961
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 2: punched in the face, because I haven't seen how big

962
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 2: the check is. Social Media influencers make some some loute,

963
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:41,399
Speaker 2: they make some coin. Well, this a social media influencer.

964
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:46,879
Speaker 2: His claim to fame. Arturo Gonzales is instigating with ICE,

965
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 2: going at ICE, disrupting ICE Immigration's customs enforcement.

966
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 3: It's what he does. He wants to be famous.

967
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 2: So he is quite literally walking in front of the

968
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 2: vehicles of ICE agents trying to stop them, and he's screaming,

969
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,919
Speaker 2: don't blanking hit me. I'm in public. I can stand

970
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 2: any place I want. So he's one of those guys. Well,

971
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 2: he is blocking traffic, so agents get out of the

972
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 2: vehicle and they're be like, hey, come here.

973
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:25,959
Speaker 3: You're blocking traffic. So he starts running.

974
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 2: And while he's running, he's screaming there after me there

975
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 2: after me ern m Toto like he's out of his

976
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 2: head and to get away from Ice. He ran into

977
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 2: a school, King Chavez High School. He runs into the school,

978
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 2: into the gate and says, can.

979
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 3: You let me in? Can you let me in?

980
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 2: And he gets met by the school principal, Desi Sullivan.

981
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 2: Sullivan says to him after seemingly letting him in, did

982
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 2: not scream you have to get.

983
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 3: Out of here.

984
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 2: You're not allowed in a school. Can you just back off?

985
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 2: I need to keep kids safe. And she let him

986
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 2: in to the actual school and said go inside. It's

987
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 2: not enough to fire the principal and to take away

988
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 2: the pension. The principal needs to go to jail for

989
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 2: child endangerment. You have no idea who this guy is.

990
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 2: You have no idea why he's running. You have no clue.

991
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 2: You just determined what Ice bad. So this is okay, fired, pension, taken, jailed,

992
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 2: child endangerment. I'm told that when you are a parent,

993
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 2: it's somehow wrong to allow your children to try alcohol,

994
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 2: even for a religious ceremony. That could be a problem. No,

995
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 2: this is a problem with your kids. You do what

996
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 2: you will. I'm not saying you should get your kids drunk.

997
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 2: That's not what I said. I'm saying that this is endangerment.

998
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 2: Crazy story.

999
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 3: Let's talk.

1000
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 2: Let's start with the fact that this guy is just

1001
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 2: He spends his day antagonizing ice. That's a very weird

1002
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 2: way to spend your day, very weird. Then there is

1003
00:59:51,600 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 2: this polling NBC News. NBC News has this polling of

1004
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 2: popularity and now positives and negatives, and it was from

1005
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:12,479
Speaker 2: it was in March of twenty twenty six. I remember,

1006
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:14,919
Speaker 2: I don't remember the days right now. And it goes

1007
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 2: to a whole host of people. It's a fascinating list.

1008
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 2: Pope Leo the fourteenth, Stephen Colbert, Marco Rubio, and then Trump, Vance, Republicans, Democrats, everything.

1009
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 2: Pope Leo has a total positive of forty two and

1010
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 2: a total negative of eight, so he is seen positively

1011
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 2: by Americans. Stephen Colbert has a thirty five twenty five.

1012
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 2: He is seen positively by Americans. Clearly none of us

1013
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 2: were polled. Then it gets to Marco Rubio and you're

1014
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 2: starting to get to the negatives positive to negative, thirty

1015
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 2: four to forty one. So he is seven below is

1016
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 2: Marco Rubio? Sanctuary cities are ten below.

1017
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 3: JD.

1018
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 2: Vance is eleven below, tied with Alexandria A.

1019
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 3: Cassio Cortes. Trump is twelve points underwaters.

1020
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 2: We discuss fifty three forty one, so Trump is in

1021
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 2: the middle ground there underwater fifty three to forty one

1022
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 2: in his popularity, just under Accossio, Cortez and JD.

1023
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 3: Vance.

1024
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 2: The Republican Party is fourteen points underwater fifty one negative,

1025
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 2: thirty seven positive. Kamala Harris is seventeen points underwater fifty

1026
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 2: one negative, thirty four positive. Gavinusom is eighteen points underwater.

1027
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 2: Ice is eighteen points underwater. Ice and Gavin Newsom the

1028
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 2: same level of popularity.

1029
01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 3: It gets better. The final three.

1030
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 2: AI is twenty six positive, forty six negatives, so they're

1031
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 2: twenty points under The Democratic Party is thirty positive fifty

1032
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 2: two negative.

1033
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 3: That's negative twenty two. The only thing below the Democratic

1034
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 3: Party is Iran.

1035
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 2: Coming in an eight positive sixty one negative for a

1036
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 2: fifty three underwater. That is amazing, amazing. Want people have

1037
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 2: more faith in AI than the Democratic Party, and the

1038
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 2: Democratic Party ranks better.

1039
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 3: Than around just by luck.

1040
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:56,919
Speaker 2: Sorry, it's terrific. Maybe the reason for the Democratic parties total.

1041
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:58,440
Speaker 3: Lack of love.

1042
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 2: Is that They're not a democratic party.

1043
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 3: This is.

1044
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 2: The socialist communist let's destroy Western civilization party, and the

1045
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 2: people are still talking about, you know, the good things

1046
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 2: that can be done should be done. Those Democrats are

1047
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 2: few and far between. This is Representative Henry Quaar, Democrat

1048
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 2: out of Texas, who Democrats really wanted to get rid

1049
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 2: of because he favors border security.

1050
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 14: For forty seven years, Alrtan has been at war within

1051
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 14: the United States.

1052
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 2: That Democrats sorry about. That wasn't playing right on my end,

1053
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 2: but I think it was playing right for you. Listen,

1054
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 2: thirty seven.

1055
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 14: Years, al Ritan has been at war within the United

1056
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 14: States a Both Democratic and Republican presidents have seen this

1057
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 14: over forty seven years. But with President Trump that decided

1058
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 14: to take action. We can't forget that the Radiance have

1059
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 14: killed American soldiers freaking out, forget that they target.

1060
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 3: American citizens and all land. And finally we took some

1061
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 3: action and it's the right thing to do. Indeed it was,

1062
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 3: and you voted in a way.

1063
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 2: You have Democrats out there who haven't lost our minds.

1064
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 2: Henry Kuaire and I would disagree about a million things.

1065
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 2: John Fetterman, Senator Fetterman and I would disagree about a

1066
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 2: million things.

1067
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 3: But there are some places where there are.

1068
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 2: Democrats who still believe that we should actually protect the nation.

1069
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 2: Then there's Zaron Mundani and his wife, and yes, his

1070
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 2: wife is a subject.

1071
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 3: Here.

1072
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 2: We start with these protesters who threw IEDs.

1073
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 3: At other protesters. So there was a group.

1074
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 2: Out there called Stop the Islamic Takeover of New York City,

1075
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 2: run by some activists by the name of Jake Lang.

1076
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 2: I've never heard the name until I read this story,

1077
01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 2: and I haven't had a chance to look into.

1078
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:00,919
Speaker 3: The dude out there with.

1079
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 2: Like twenty demonstrators protesting, out comes another protest with one

1080
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty five people. And in that other protest

1081
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 2: there's an eighteen year old who lights an incendiary device

1082
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 2: and throws it at the other protesters. So whether you

1083
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 2: agree or agree and disagree with the protesters is meaningless.

1084
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 2: These people have free speech. They're allowed to go out

1085
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 2: there and protest. This group of people doesn't like what

1086
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:34,919
Speaker 2: another group of people has to say, so they light

1087
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 2: an ied and throw it.

1088
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:39,480
Speaker 3: Now you say to me, Tony, you don't know it

1089
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 3: was a bomb. The New York.

1090
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 2: Police Department Bomb Squad conduct a preliminary analysis of a

1091
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 2: device that was ignited and deployed at a protest yesterday

1092
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 2: and has determined that it is not a hoax device

1093
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 2: or a smoke bomb. It is, in fact, an improvised

1094
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 2: explosive device that could have been that could have caused

1095
01:05:56,200 --> 01:06:00,439
Speaker 2: serious injury or death. We also know that this guy

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Speaker 2: is inspired by ISIS. We know from his statement to

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Speaker 2: law enforcement now made he made utterances spontaneously captured on

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Speaker 2: NYPD officer's body worn camera footage. This isn't a religion

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Speaker 2: that just stands when people talk about the blessed name

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Speaker 2: of the prophet. We take action and if I didn't

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Speaker 2: do it, someone else will come and do it.

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Speaker 3: And then wrote all.

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Speaker 2: Praises due to Allah, Lord of all worlds, I pledged

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Speaker 2: my allegiance to the Islamic state. Die in your rage,

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Speaker 2: and then some other words of the language. I don't

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Speaker 2: know based on my training and experience, I know that kafar,

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Speaker 2: that's one of the words he used, is an Arabic

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Speaker 2: term that refers to non believers or infidels, and that

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Speaker 2: die in your rage, which is another term this guy used,

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Speaker 2: is a slogan used by ISIS based on a verse

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Speaker 2: in the Koran, and when asked if he was familiar

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Speaker 2: with the Boston marathon bombing, he responded that he had

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Speaker 2: hoped to accomplish that, but even bigger because that was

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Speaker 2: only three deaths.

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Speaker 3: This is an.

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Speaker 2: Isis inspired terrorist attack on American citizens.

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Speaker 3: That's what this was. We knew that before.

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Speaker 2: And what does a local state senator say, New York

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Speaker 2: is no place for anti Muslim hate. There was no

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Speaker 2: anti Muslim hate. This was Islamists trying to kill Americans

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Speaker 2: because they hate How did NBC report it multiple rests

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Speaker 2: made after suspicious devices found outside Gracie Mansion. It wasn't

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Speaker 2: a suspicious device found outside Gracie Mansion. It was a

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Speaker 2: lit ied thrown at protests by Islamists. And we knew

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Speaker 2: some of this at the time. We heard screams and

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Speaker 2: the video was clear of a luakbar. And yet media

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Speaker 2: wants you to believe that this was just some random incident.

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Speaker 2: And when asked about it, Zorn Mamdani, the despicable mayor

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Speaker 2: of New York, like.

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Speaker 11: To know what your reaction was to the article in

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Speaker 11: the Jewish Insider that was posted about your wife's social

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Speaker 11: media activity.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, this is a different clip because his wife cheered.

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Speaker 2: October seventh, and his wife said that the rapes that

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Speaker 2: was just a hoax. Oh, I was going to get

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Speaker 2: into this later. I was going to get into this later. No, no, no, Mom.

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Speaker 2: Donnie said that it's just so wrong that this white

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Speaker 2: supremacist was engaging in violence. That guy who started the

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Speaker 2: original protester might very well be a white's premaisist for

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Speaker 2: all I know. I have no idea who the dude is.

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Speaker 2: That's not the story. Zorn Mamdani just calling somebody white

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Speaker 2: spremis because he doesn't like them.

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Speaker 3: Who cares. The story is that they're inspired by Isis.

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Speaker 2: They're lighting IEDs and throwing it at American citizens.

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Speaker 3: That's the story.

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Speaker 2: And Mamdani and the Democratic Party they don't want you

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Speaker 2: to talk about that.

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Speaker 3: We have to do something about this. We have to

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Speaker 3: do something about Islamists. This is Tony Kats today.

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Speaker 2: So the Iranian women's soccer team was in Australia for

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Speaker 2: something called the Asian Cup. Okay, I don't know everything

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01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:55,720
Speaker 2: that happens, but I guess this happens in soccer, and

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01:09:55,760 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 2: that tournament started as the US and is you'll launch

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Speaker 2: the airstrikes on Iran.

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Speaker 3: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: So the team got eliminated from the competition, and now

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Speaker 2: they have to go back home.

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Speaker 3: And some of them are like, uh, we don't, we

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Speaker 3: don't want to go back home.

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Speaker 2: Some are like very worried about their their their families.

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Speaker 3: They're worried about.

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Speaker 2: Threats if they don't return, which we have seen happen,

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Speaker 2: you know, in the case of Chinese athletes and others.

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Speaker 2: But there was this thought that the Australians were saying, sorry,

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Speaker 2: you got to go now. And Trump started talking like

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Speaker 2: discussing Australia is making a terrible humanitarian mistake by allowing

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Speaker 2: the Iranian national women's soccer team to be forced back

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Speaker 2: to Iran, where they will most likely be killed.

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Speaker 3: The US will take them if you won't.

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Speaker 2: Now wait a second, I don't know any of these

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Speaker 2: women are, nor do I know if they're going to.

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Speaker 3: Be killed, but I can appreciate that there's real concern.

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Speaker 2: Then the next thing, you know, he speaks to the

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Speaker 2: Prime Minister there, who's Anthony Abinez, and he's on it.

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Speaker 2: Five have already been taken care of and the rest

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Speaker 2: are on their way. I don't know what would become

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Speaker 2: of them, and I don't know what threats were given.

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Speaker 2: I do know that effects are given if you don't

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Speaker 2: return home. We're not done ending the Iranian regime. So

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Speaker 2: why don't we get done with that?

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Speaker 3: My take? Keep it here. This is Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 1: Why from Vaal Hartbeiner and the Crossroads of America.

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Speaker 3: It's Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: So it really is a question about what the future

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Speaker 2: of the relationship looks like.

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Speaker 3: I'm not just talking about the United States and.

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Speaker 2: Israel, though, I guess that's a question for a lot

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01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 2: of people out there in social media land, but the

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Speaker 2: question of what does the relationship look like for Israel

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Speaker 2: and of the Middle East, or for the Middle East,

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Speaker 2: the rest of the Middle East and Israel. Exactly how

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Speaker 2: does this work once you have an Islamic regime gone?

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Speaker 2: And it very much seems like the Islamic regime that

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Speaker 2: has been running around will be gone.

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Speaker 3: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, Good to be here, Good

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Speaker 3: to be with you.

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Speaker 2: Lod Stromeyer joins me right now, the Council General of

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Speaker 2: Israel to the Midwest.

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Speaker 3: He is based in Chicago.

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Speaker 2: Sixteen years in the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Sir,

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you taking the time to be with us today.

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Speaker 2: Let's start with some of the basics we know about,

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Speaker 2: of course, the start of this last week. We are now,

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Speaker 2: depending on how you look at these things, nine or

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Speaker 2: ten days in the IDF has engaged in a tremendous

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Speaker 2: number of targetings, over six hundred targets. We're talking about

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Speaker 2: just in Lebanon, having to deal with with Hasbil, and

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Speaker 2: never mind everything that has been taken out in Aran,

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Speaker 2: including as of some of the latest reporting, even where

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Speaker 2: oil stores are kept. The latest as Israel is letting

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Speaker 2: us know about it. From these attacks, how are things

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Speaker 2: going and what do they see as the future of

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Speaker 2: these attacks? How long will this go on?

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much, Johny for having me on the show,

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Speaker 4: and thank you everyone who listening. I want to say

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Speaker 4: that everything is going according to plan. We're on the

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Speaker 4: second week of this operation led by the United States

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Speaker 4: together with Israel. Great success so far. Everything is going

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Speaker 4: like we planned it, taking down the threat from this

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Speaker 4: Iranian regime, taking down the threat to the United States,

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Speaker 4: taking down the threat to Israel to the Middle Least,

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Speaker 4: and to the Iranian people. We need to remember forty

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Speaker 4: seven years we had a murderous Iranian regime that killed

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Speaker 4: thousands of Americans, either directly or indirectly through their proxies.

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Speaker 4: They killed thousands of Israelis. Just in the last few months,

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Speaker 4: they killed at least thirty thousand Iranians who protested to

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Speaker 4: try and get a better life and be freed from

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Speaker 4: the suppressive regime. And we're determined right now to move

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Speaker 4: forward to eliminate this regime threat, its nuclear capabilities, its

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Speaker 4: ballistic missile's capabilities, and its export of terrorism around the

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Speaker 4: rest in around the world, and to create the conditions

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Speaker 4: for the people of Iran to rise up and to

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Speaker 4: take the faith into their own hands and bring upon

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Speaker 4: a better future for themselves.

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Speaker 2: So that conversation is the same conversation that President Trump

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Speaker 2: had in his remarks on truth social which is to

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Speaker 2: say that it is not regime change, but rather setting

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Speaker 2: up the conditions for regime change. I see it a

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Speaker 2: little differently, even though I am wholly supportive that I do,

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Speaker 2: and I have just so for your edification, referred to

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01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:06,680
Speaker 2: it as such as regime changed and the removing of

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Speaker 2: this Islamic regime.

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Speaker 3: But it is true.

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Speaker 2: I do agree that the people now need to take

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01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:13,720
Speaker 2: control of their lives and their future. But a lot

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Speaker 2: of people will say, okay, you've mentioned the nuclear threat,

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Speaker 2: Well that's what the attack was back in July taking

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Speaker 2: out Isfahan for Doah and Aton's and the capabilities there.

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Speaker 2: There always seems to be a conversation they will argue

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Speaker 2: in the social media circles and other places about this threat.

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Speaker 3: Is the threat because there was an Islamic regime?

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Speaker 2: Or was the threat because here is the tangible proof

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Speaker 2: of their continuing building a nuclear arsenal.

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Speaker 4: It's both. It's actually both because first and foremost, we

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Speaker 4: had intelligence that shows that they continue to bring their

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Speaker 4: new to build their nuclear arsenal. That's that's what they've done.

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Speaker 4: We have taken back their program back in June, and

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Speaker 4: then they have continued to rebuild it and move forward

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Speaker 4: with a bomb where their nuclear program and their ballistic

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Speaker 4: missiles program. But I said, it's connected because this regime

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Speaker 4: has continued that and we came to a realization that

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Speaker 4: this regime can no longer exist because as long as

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Speaker 4: they exist, it's more of the same, more of the same,

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Speaker 4: and they will continue with building their nuclear capabilities, exporting

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Speaker 4: terror and building ballistic missiles. You know we're talking about

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Speaker 4: the ballistic missiles. They're right now firing rockets at Israel,

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Speaker 4: at the Middle East, at Europe, for crying out loud,

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Speaker 4: They're firing at Cypress and Turkey, Azerbaijan. Now they're trying.

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Speaker 4: They have tried to build an intercontinental ballistic missil program,

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Speaker 4: meaning that they could fire rockets at the United States,

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Speaker 4: and we know that they would have if they could.

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Speaker 4: So this is why this regime is the threat along

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Speaker 4: with their capabilities. And when I talk about exporting terrorism.

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Speaker 4: Since the last cease fire, they gave one point two

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Speaker 4: billion dollars to his Baladi. Ranian regime gave one to

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Speaker 4: point two billion dollars to a murderous terrorist organization when

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Speaker 4: they're people are starving, their economy is crippling. This is

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01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:06,799
Speaker 4: a regime that needs to go away and the people, anyone,

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Speaker 4: need to bring about a new future for themselves.

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Speaker 2: Talking to A lot Stromyer, Council General of Israel to

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Speaker 2: the Midwest, and appreciate you taking the time to be

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Speaker 2: with us the Israel US relationship. You mentioned that this

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Speaker 2: is the United States taking the lead and Israel in

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Speaker 2: the assist as we know it, and certainly, I'll say

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Speaker 2: it again, I'm all in favor of the removal of

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Speaker 2: the aetola and I do not want to see anybody

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Speaker 2: associated with the iatola being allowed in a position of

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Speaker 2: power again when new leadership is chosen for the country.

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Speaker 2: But how much of this was Israel saying this is

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Speaker 2: what they're doing versus the United States telling Israel this

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Speaker 2: is what we're seeing.

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Speaker 4: It was again, it was both both of us. We

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Speaker 4: shared the intelligence, We were in close collaboration. Resident and

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Speaker 4: the Prime Minister have met several times in the course

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Speaker 4: of the last few months. We've assessed the situation underground.

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Speaker 4: We've seen the row intelligence and the intentions of this

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Speaker 4: murderous regime, and we came to our realization that there's

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Speaker 4: no other way. We need to understand. Several things that

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Speaker 4: happened in the last few weeks that made to the

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Speaker 4: understanding that now it's the time to do what we're doing. First,

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Speaker 4: the United States engaged in good faith negotiation with Irun

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Speaker 4: and offered very generous offers to the Iranian regime when

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Speaker 4: it comes to their nuclear program. The Ranian regime said no,

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Speaker 4: and this is what led the United States to understand

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Speaker 4: what we have said all along, the Iranian regime is

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Speaker 4: dragging time and they don't want to reach a compromise.

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Speaker 4: They don't want to reach an agreement. They want to

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Speaker 4: reach to nuclear capabilities. In addition to that, we have

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Speaker 4: learned that in the past, I don't know if a

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Speaker 4: few months, but in recent times they have started to

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Speaker 4: put all their program, the ballistic missilves and their nuclear

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Speaker 4: program underground in immune bunkers that be two bombers cannot

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Speaker 4: go to, so you can't use the bunker bluster bomber

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Speaker 4: bombs in order to take it down. So that we

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Speaker 4: had a very narrow window of opportunity to act. The

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Speaker 4: United States and Israel saw that intelligence, saw that realization,

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Speaker 4: and we came to an agreement that now it's the

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Speaker 4: time to act. The collaboration is so close. And you

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Speaker 4: mentioned n I'm sixteen years in the Forum Service. I'm

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Speaker 4: actually longer than that in the Israel US relationship business.

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Speaker 4: Before even joining the Forum Service, I've never seen such

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Speaker 4: close collaboration. It's unprecedented the level of cooperation that our

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Speaker 4: two countries are now experiencing on the military level, on

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Speaker 4: the diplomatic level, and we are united with the goal

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Speaker 4: that it needs to end the way it needs to end,

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Speaker 4: and not to finish, not to leave the job half done.

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Speaker 2: You talk about the closeness now, is that to then

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Speaker 2: say that the relationship was not close under prior president

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Speaker 2: if a prior president had been willing to take out

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Speaker 2: the regime, that Israel would have worked with them ten

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Speaker 2: years ago, fifteen years ago, twenty years ago, twenty five

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Speaker 2: years ago, etc.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's a theoretical question that it's difficult to answer.

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Speaker 4: The relationship between Israel and the United States were always close.

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Speaker 4: We always had a very close level of cooperation, very

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Speaker 4: intimate and frank conversation, even when there were moments that

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Speaker 4: we had disagreements. I think the difference right now is

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Speaker 4: that we are in full agreement about the assessments of

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Speaker 4: the situation, full agreement of what needs to be done,

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Speaker 4: and full agreement about the endgame. Not to allow this

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01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:35,680
Speaker 4: regime to have any nuclear capabilities, not to allow this

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Speaker 4: regime to continue threatening Israel and the Iranian people, Meaning

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Speaker 4: this regime needs to end so that the people of

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Speaker 4: Irun will have new leadership. I don't want to speculate

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Speaker 4: what other administrations would or would not have done. Coming

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Speaker 4: to understanding of the information that we have right now,

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Speaker 4: I can only say that what we see right now

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Speaker 4: is close collaboration between the Trump administration and our government

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Speaker 4: and the United States leadership. Beyond the politicians, it's on

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Speaker 4: the working level, on the military level, the diplomatic level.

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Speaker 4: We have a great understanding that we're working to make

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Speaker 4: the Middle East. And it might sound as a cliche,

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01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:14,360
Speaker 4: but it's true to make the world a bitter place.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Lord stro Meyer, Council General of Israel to

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Speaker 2: the Midwest, and let's go back to this relationship conversation.

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Speaker 2: The polling doesn't tell a great story. Social media certainly

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Speaker 2: does not tell a great story the levels that we

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Speaker 2: have seen, certainly in the United States, whether it's Columbia University,

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Speaker 2: college campuses, what we've seen in New York, what we've

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Speaker 2: seen from the spouse of a mayor's arm Mum, Donnie.

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Speaker 3: What we have seen throughout America.

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Speaker 2: Has been a larger, larger, larger level of anti Semitism,

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Speaker 2: of vitriol, of anti Israel fervor.

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Speaker 3: We still argue that the relationship is.

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Speaker 2: Solid to is As, feel that there is some tension

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Speaker 2: stress in this relationship.

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Speaker 4: You know, first of all, I don't believe everything I

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Speaker 4: see on social media. Social media has a lot of

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Speaker 4: foreign influence over there and misinformation, and that's what leads

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Speaker 4: to some misguided opinions that we hear from people because

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01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:24,160
Speaker 4: they're fed for false information for years. Countries like Cut

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Speaker 4: are intervened with what's happening in your country, and that's

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Speaker 4: what led to the encampments and the protests that we've

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Speaker 4: seen after October seventh, and the rampant anti Semitism in

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Speaker 4: the United States. So we should take everything with a

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Speaker 4: grain of salt. Now, I cannot argue with numbers, and

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Speaker 4: I understand what you're saying regard to Napoleon, but I

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01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:44,160
Speaker 4: also talk about the conversation that I'm having with people

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Speaker 4: and with elected officials, and despite some hurdles and some challenges,

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01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 4: the relationship are strong. Because there is also an element

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01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 4: that people might disagree with some action of the Israeli

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01:22:56,320 --> 01:22:58,880
Speaker 4: government of what the government is doing, but there is

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01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:02,559
Speaker 4: a very understanding of the importance of Israel as an

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Speaker 4: important ally in the Middle East, as a democracy that

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01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:09,679
Speaker 4: shares the same values as the United States. And I

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Speaker 4: believe that when we're successful right now, after this operation

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Speaker 4: with changing the Middle East, and we talked about that

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01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:19,040
Speaker 4: people can change the nature of the Middle East and

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Speaker 4: the relationship of Israel with its neighbors, then the attitudes

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Speaker 4: and the opinions of people will change as well.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about the future this.

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Speaker 2: In America, you have people on the left and on

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Speaker 2: certain parts of the right that talk about the idea

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Speaker 2: forever wars and how long the United States was in

1395
01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:44,120
Speaker 2: Afghanistan not wanting those things. I of course view those

1396
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:48,360
Speaker 2: arguments right now regarding Iran as a lot of silly

1397
01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 2: talk in that we're nine ten days into this. That's

1398
01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:56,640
Speaker 2: not a forever war by any stretch of any imagination.

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Speaker 2: There's also great arguments about whether America in its current lifetime,

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Speaker 2: you know, the past couple decades, has ever actually seen

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01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 2: what winning looks like and what taking out an enemy

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01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:11,000
Speaker 2: looks like as opposed to some precision strike. And then

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01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:16,519
Speaker 2: moving on with our day, the Islamic regime goes, it

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01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:20,799
Speaker 2: is gone, it is no longer an Islamic nation irand

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01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:25,280
Speaker 2: but rather it's make Iran Persia again. And it's well,

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Speaker 2: it might not be a republic like the United States,

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01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:32,320
Speaker 2: but it is something that it wasn't what does a

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Speaker 2: future Middle East look like in the Israeli.

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Speaker 4: View, You know, I would start saying that, I agree

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Speaker 4: with you. It's not a forever war. It's ending the

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Speaker 4: forever wars. This is exactly what we're doing right now

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01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:51,120
Speaker 4: by eliminating this regime threat, because unlike the other wars

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Speaker 4: that you mentioned here, eighty percent of the Iranian people

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01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:58,439
Speaker 4: oppose the regime. They want to see change, so that

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01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:01,679
Speaker 4: when we're taking down these regime they will be able

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01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:04,000
Speaker 4: to go to the streets and lead the changes that

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01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:06,599
Speaker 4: they want to see. And that's the big difference from

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01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:11,559
Speaker 4: everything else. We're helping the people creating the conditions for themselves,

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01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:14,560
Speaker 4: and I believe that when that happens, we'll see a

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01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:17,200
Speaker 4: different Middle East. And why is that? First and foremost,

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01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:20,720
Speaker 4: before the Ranian Revolution in nineteen seventy nine, Israel had

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01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:25,000
Speaker 4: great relationship with the Ranian people. The Ranian people are good, smart,

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01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:28,640
Speaker 4: peace loving people. They love Israelis, many of them they

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01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:32,320
Speaker 4: love Israelis. We see the Israeli flags in Iranian dissidents protests,

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01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:35,759
Speaker 4: taking Israel and the United States for helping them against

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Speaker 4: the suppressive regime. So I believe that when this regime

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Speaker 4: is out and the people will control themselves. And I

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01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 4: agree with you, we don't know what the model of

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01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:46,559
Speaker 4: a regime it's going to be. If it's going to

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Speaker 4: be a democracy, it's going to be a republic. They

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01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 4: will choose it for themselves, but they will have a

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01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:56,360
Speaker 4: government that will work for the people and won't threatened Israel.

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Speaker 4: One threaten in the Middle East, one threatened the United States,

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01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:02,000
Speaker 4: and we will be able to work together. When that happens.

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Speaker 4: I believe in the greater Middle East we'll see the

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Speaker 4: change because right now all the countries in the Middle

1437
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:11,960
Speaker 4: East understand that the most destabilizing force in the Middle

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Speaker 4: East is Iran. And when Iran as this regime will

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01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:18,880
Speaker 4: be eliminated and one threatened them, they will come to

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01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:22,440
Speaker 4: collaboration and cooperation with Israel, and we'll see an expansion

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Speaker 4: of the Abraham Accords, an expression of cooperation in the

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Speaker 4: Middle East. I believe that it's possible. We see the

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01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:33,720
Speaker 4: beginning of it right now. And I believe that when

1444
01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:37,280
Speaker 4: Isbela can no longer be a proxy every run and

1445
01:26:37,320 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 4: will stop threatening us, something good and forward moving can

1446
01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:45,759
Speaker 4: happen with Lebanon, and we'll see a new improved Middle East.

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Speaker 2: I do want to sneak in one more question talking

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01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:54,040
Speaker 2: to a Lord stro Mayer, Council General of Israel to

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01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:58,080
Speaker 2: the Midwest of the United States. There is such a

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01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:02,759
Speaker 2: thing as a September twelfth American which is after September eleventh,

1451
01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:06,200
Speaker 2: two thousand and one. People woke up on September twelfth

1452
01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:08,559
Speaker 2: and realized that they didn't quite understand the world they

1453
01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:10,840
Speaker 2: do now and some of these things have to be

1454
01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:16,559
Speaker 2: dealt with. Is there could this have happened without the

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Speaker 2: October eighth ISRAELI.

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01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:23,040
Speaker 4: You know, it's a difficult question. I don't have an answer.

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01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:27,240
Speaker 4: October seventh was a horrible day, day to be remembered

1458
01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:32,679
Speaker 4: in infamous if to borrow your president words on Pearl Harbor,

1459
01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:35,880
Speaker 4: and it's a day that will always be a trauma

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01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:40,960
Speaker 4: for all Israelis. And I believe that October eighth Israelis

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01:27:41,040 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 4: understand that what was cannot be in the future and

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01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:47,400
Speaker 4: that we need to be determined if in the past

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01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:51,280
Speaker 4: we were able to contain some threats and some rockets

1464
01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:55,200
Speaker 4: firing at us from Gaza or from Lebanon. By chrisbeala

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01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:57,639
Speaker 4: By saying we don't want to escalate it into a war.

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01:27:57,720 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 4: We want to create a status quo. Now there's no

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01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:04,800
Speaker 4: time for status quol because Israel understands that every time

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01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:07,559
Speaker 4: that they fire a rocket at us, they're examining us.

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01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:11,000
Speaker 4: They're examining to see how we are resilient are we

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Speaker 4: and how determined are we to face these threats. And

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Speaker 4: now we're showing them that every rocket, every threat towards

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Speaker 4: Israel will be met with full force. And this is

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01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:25,559
Speaker 4: why we are operating right now against the Iranian regime,

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01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:29,400
Speaker 4: because that's taking down the mother of all threats, the

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Speaker 4: head of the snake that supported Kamas, that supports Chrisbella,

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01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:35,720
Speaker 4: supports the Khuti, supports the Shiek militia's in Iraq that

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01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:40,479
Speaker 4: kill Americans, and we're taking down the snake. And again,

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Speaker 4: I don't know if it would have been possible without

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01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:46,439
Speaker 4: October seventh. That's a question that I cannot answer. I'm

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01:28:46,479 --> 01:28:48,839
Speaker 4: just saying that we have changed, and we are resilient

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01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:51,960
Speaker 4: and resolved and we will win lots.

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Speaker 2: From our Council General of Israel to the Midwest of

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01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:57,640
Speaker 2: the United States, I appreciate you taking the time to

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01:28:57,680 --> 01:28:58,160
Speaker 2: be with us.

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Speaker 3: Keep it here.

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Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katsny Katz Today. I don't know whose podcast

1487
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:05,599
Speaker 2: this is. I don't know the woman who hosts the show.

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01:29:06,120 --> 01:29:09,240
Speaker 2: I do know she had the Democratic nominee for Senate

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01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:12,840
Speaker 2: in Texas, James tell Rico, on the show and asked

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01:29:12,920 --> 01:29:17,200
Speaker 2: him a question, something that you love that's not family

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01:29:17,400 --> 01:29:23,559
Speaker 2: or friends. It's a goofy question that a bleeding heart

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01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:24,880
Speaker 2: would ask Tony Katz.

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Speaker 3: Tony Katz today, good to be with you.

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01:29:28,520 --> 01:29:32,320
Speaker 2: It's it's it's a silly question. It's it's it's emotional problem.

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01:29:32,720 --> 01:29:35,120
Speaker 3: It is right. I think you can talk about things

1496
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:37,400
Speaker 3: that that that you love or things that you like.

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01:29:37,479 --> 01:29:39,719
Speaker 2: You get to have a conversation about your personal interests

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01:29:39,720 --> 01:29:43,679
Speaker 2: and everything else. But when it's asked in this way,

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01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:49,439
Speaker 2: something that you love that's not family or friends, and

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Speaker 2: she's got her headphones on, she's smiling, and she's got

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01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:54,599
Speaker 2: all the flowers behind her, I don't know.

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01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:57,559
Speaker 3: It strikes me as as silly.

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01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:02,080
Speaker 2: But then comes the answer, sure from the Democratic nominee

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01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:05,600
Speaker 2: for Senate in Texas, James Talerico.

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01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:09,000
Speaker 3: Again the question, something.

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01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:11,160
Speaker 8: That you love that's not family or friends.

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01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:14,599
Speaker 2: I love.

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01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:16,960
Speaker 8: I'm just saying this because it's on my mind.

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01:30:17,360 --> 01:30:21,599
Speaker 7: The trans children who showed up yesterday at the state

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01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:24,000
Speaker 7: Capitol to advocate for their humanity.

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Speaker 8: They shouldn't have to, but it was an inspiration to watch.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that is creepy, weird the trans children. You mean,

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Speaker 2: not only do you support the abuse of children, you

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01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:41,320
Speaker 2: support lying to them and feeding into their mental illness.

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01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:45,400
Speaker 2: You love it when they come out and advocate for

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01:30:46,479 --> 01:30:50,960
Speaker 2: them being abused, so you can be a participant as

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01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:54,599
Speaker 2: other adults are in supporting that abuse. Because what else

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01:30:54,680 --> 01:30:59,080
Speaker 2: possibly could we call giving kids puberty blockers and mutilation

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01:30:59,200 --> 01:31:00,759
Speaker 2: surgeries other than abuse.

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Speaker 3: That's what you love, dude.

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Speaker 2: This is what's considered what genuine in Texas or genuine

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01:31:10,920 --> 01:31:11,600
Speaker 2: to Americans.

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01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:16,240
Speaker 3: That's how this guy comes across. This is genuine. It's

1524
01:31:16,280 --> 01:31:19,480
Speaker 3: genuinely weird. It's genuinely ugly.

1525
01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:25,040
Speaker 2: Genuine home man, America might be more broken than I thought.

1526
01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:26,280
Speaker 3: Keep it here.

1527
01:31:26,439 --> 01:31:32,160
Speaker 2: This is Tony Katz today.

1528
01:31:33,160 --> 01:31:35,439
Speaker 12: But I want everyone to know your military is getting

1529
01:31:35,439 --> 01:31:38,200
Speaker 12: the job done. And every single day this regime in

1530
01:31:38,280 --> 01:31:41,640
Speaker 12: Iran has less missiles, has less launchers, and their factories

1531
01:31:41,680 --> 01:31:44,120
Speaker 12: work less, and their navy is being eviscerated, and the

1532
01:31:44,160 --> 01:31:45,920
Speaker 12: world is going to be a safer and a better

1533
01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:48,360
Speaker 12: place when this mission is accomplished, and.

1534
01:31:48,479 --> 01:31:52,479
Speaker 2: We could not agree more, just could not agree more.

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01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:59,280
Speaker 2: Secretary Marco Rubio I engaged in a very clear conversation.

1536
01:31:59,439 --> 01:32:02,120
Speaker 3: He has been excellent as Secretary of State.

1537
01:32:02,360 --> 01:32:03,880
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people see him in a

1538
01:32:03,880 --> 01:32:06,720
Speaker 2: different light that maybe you and I saw him in

1539
01:32:07,360 --> 01:32:08,320
Speaker 2: four years now.

1540
01:32:08,960 --> 01:32:10,120
Speaker 3: He's a capable dude.

1541
01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:14,200
Speaker 2: When he is given the task, he can engage the task,

1542
01:32:14,280 --> 01:32:16,559
Speaker 2: and he can explain things in a way that.

1543
01:32:16,479 --> 01:32:17,360
Speaker 3: Most people can't.

1544
01:32:17,400 --> 01:32:20,040
Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, good to be with you,

1545
01:32:20,080 --> 01:32:22,200
Speaker 2: and now I do think it sets up the fight

1546
01:32:22,240 --> 01:32:25,559
Speaker 2: between him and Jady Vance regarding the twenty twenty eight nomination.

1547
01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:28,280
Speaker 2: They're all playing very very nice together, Rubio saying he's

1548
01:32:28,320 --> 01:32:31,200
Speaker 2: not gonna run because Jady Van's gonna run. You know,

1549
01:32:31,240 --> 01:32:34,519
Speaker 2: people talking about Advance Rubio ticket, which I don't actually see,

1550
01:32:34,880 --> 01:32:38,840
Speaker 2: but neither here nor there. If you're asking about who

1551
01:32:39,040 --> 01:32:43,519
Speaker 2: comes out ahead right now, I think that's Rubio by

1552
01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:46,240
Speaker 2: a country mile. This isn't a question about whether or

1553
01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:48,959
Speaker 2: not Vance is bright or capable.

1554
01:32:49,160 --> 01:32:52,599
Speaker 3: I think both those things are true. It's that.

1555
01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:56,680
Speaker 2: Rubio has been put in a place, in a position

1556
01:32:57,320 --> 01:33:00,960
Speaker 2: to have more moments of shining, and he has been

1557
01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:07,000
Speaker 2: a little funnier, a little more relatable, more focused. I

1558
01:33:07,040 --> 01:33:09,400
Speaker 2: just don't think that part of it is deniable, and

1559
01:33:09,439 --> 01:33:11,879
Speaker 2: it comes from being Secretary of State versus being vice president.

1560
01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:15,320
Speaker 2: Vice president's a heartbeat away, But until then you've got

1561
01:33:15,320 --> 01:33:16,000
Speaker 2: really nothing to do.

1562
01:33:17,280 --> 01:33:18,800
Speaker 3: Right, Well, what is it?

1563
01:33:18,880 --> 01:33:23,840
Speaker 2: I don't want to be shown to be dead until

1564
01:33:23,880 --> 01:33:26,640
Speaker 2: I'm good and buried. Right, that's what people's take on

1565
01:33:26,640 --> 01:33:32,080
Speaker 2: the vice presidency. But VANCE was at this firefighters conference,

1566
01:33:32,120 --> 01:33:37,240
Speaker 2: the International Association of Firefighters and their US Legislative conference,

1567
01:33:37,880 --> 01:33:41,640
Speaker 2: and whenever, right now you have a public official of

1568
01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:44,200
Speaker 2: that height. As you're in the middle of this.

1569
01:33:44,240 --> 01:33:46,880
Speaker 3: War, let's call it a war with Iran.

1570
01:33:47,520 --> 01:33:50,160
Speaker 2: You might hear some things. This was vice president of

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01:33:50,200 --> 01:33:51,240
Speaker 2: VANCE earlier today.

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Speaker 7: Now, before I get into some of my other remarks,

1573
01:33:55,160 --> 01:33:58,280
Speaker 7: I want to just start on a slightly somber note here,

1574
01:33:58,320 --> 01:34:01,920
Speaker 7: because on a person level, I was honored to be

1575
01:34:01,960 --> 01:34:06,360
Speaker 7: able to participate in the dignified transfer of six American

1576
01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:11,599
Speaker 7: soldiers who were killed overseas in this conflict with Iran,

1577
01:34:12,479 --> 01:34:15,000
Speaker 7: and I'd never done that before. And a lot of

1578
01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:19,200
Speaker 7: you served our nation in uniform. I know a number

1579
01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:21,360
Speaker 7: of our firefighters have all across our country.

1580
01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:23,720
Speaker 3: And I just want to say that if.

1581
01:34:23,400 --> 01:34:25,400
Speaker 7: You are the praying type, and I certainly am, I

1582
01:34:25,400 --> 01:34:27,640
Speaker 7: hope you'll spare a prayer for the sixth souls that

1583
01:34:27,680 --> 01:34:30,240
Speaker 7: we lost, for the seventh soul who will be coming

1584
01:34:30,240 --> 01:34:32,840
Speaker 7: home tonight, and for all of their families. You all

1585
01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:36,559
Speaker 7: know better than almost any category of Americans what it

1586
01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:39,479
Speaker 7: means to put on a uniform and to sacrifice for

1587
01:34:39,600 --> 01:34:42,200
Speaker 7: our country, and so I hope you'll share a moment

1588
01:34:42,200 --> 01:34:45,040
Speaker 7: of prayer for our brothers in arms, for your brothers

1589
01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:47,840
Speaker 7: in arms who keep this country safe in their own way,

1590
01:34:47,960 --> 01:34:50,519
Speaker 7: just as you keep the country safe in your particular way.

1591
01:34:52,640 --> 01:34:55,400
Speaker 7: So to move on a little bit, let me just

1592
01:34:55,479 --> 01:34:58,320
Speaker 7: say that what we have tried to do in the

1593
01:34:58,360 --> 01:35:01,640
Speaker 7: Trump administration, what we have tried to accomplish, is to

1594
01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:05,559
Speaker 7: make your lives easier, knowing, of course, that we're never

1595
01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:08,360
Speaker 7: going to be able to make your lives completely easy.

1596
01:35:08,960 --> 01:35:10,400
Speaker 4: You guys have some of the.

1597
01:35:10,360 --> 01:35:14,120
Speaker 7: Hardest jobs that exists anywhere in the United States of America.

1598
01:35:14,160 --> 01:35:18,080
Speaker 7: And you represent thousands and thousands of firefighters all across

1599
01:35:18,120 --> 01:35:21,240
Speaker 7: the United States of America who make it possible for

1600
01:35:21,320 --> 01:35:24,760
Speaker 7: our communities to be safe, who make it possible for

1601
01:35:25,320 --> 01:35:29,280
Speaker 7: our communities to run smoothly. Who make it possible for

1602
01:35:29,360 --> 01:35:31,400
Speaker 7: a kid to be able to call nine to one

1603
01:35:31,560 --> 01:35:34,439
Speaker 7: one if they have to, And know that a man

1604
01:35:34,680 --> 01:35:37,720
Speaker 7: or a woman who is professional, who is competent, and

1605
01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:40,240
Speaker 7: who is caring, is going to show up when we

1606
01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:42,760
Speaker 7: need them. And that's the thing that I admire so

1607
01:35:42,920 --> 01:35:46,640
Speaker 7: much about all of you. You know, every country, every empire,

1608
01:35:46,800 --> 01:35:50,800
Speaker 7: every society, and history made it possible for a rich

1609
01:35:50,840 --> 01:35:52,720
Speaker 7: person to get what they needed. But what makes the

1610
01:35:52,840 --> 01:35:55,960
Speaker 7: United States so unique is that whether you're rich or poor,

1611
01:35:56,000 --> 01:35:59,439
Speaker 7: you're black or white, when you need public services, when

1612
01:35:59,479 --> 01:36:02,240
Speaker 7: you need your police officers, when you need your firefighters,

1613
01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:05,320
Speaker 7: when you need those G and T specialists, we make it,

1614
01:36:05,720 --> 01:36:08,320
Speaker 7: and we try hard to make it so that everybody

1615
01:36:08,360 --> 01:36:12,439
Speaker 7: who needs something in that critical moment has access to it.

1616
01:36:13,120 --> 01:36:16,599
Speaker 2: Now, what's going to happen here is that the left

1617
01:36:16,720 --> 01:36:19,080
Speaker 2: is gonna scream you see, socialism works.

1618
01:36:23,040 --> 01:36:24,519
Speaker 3: Oh, they're all so dopey.

1619
01:36:25,120 --> 01:36:28,320
Speaker 2: A fire department is not socialism, laities and gentlemen, A

1620
01:36:28,360 --> 01:36:33,080
Speaker 2: fire department is as capitalist as anything I can think of.

1621
01:36:33,760 --> 01:36:36,679
Speaker 2: Well Tony, it's it's it's a government entity, and and

1622
01:36:36,680 --> 01:36:40,360
Speaker 2: and you pay them and they they are there to

1623
01:36:40,439 --> 01:36:43,479
Speaker 2: you know, on the government dimeside, it's not capitalism, it's

1624
01:36:43,640 --> 01:36:45,800
Speaker 2: it's it's it's government control, and you need a strong

1625
01:36:45,920 --> 01:36:50,680
Speaker 2: central government to make that happen. Fire departments exist to

1626
01:36:50,760 --> 01:36:57,760
Speaker 2: protect private property from destroying other private property. What am

1627
01:36:57,760 --> 01:37:00,240
Speaker 2: I the first person to say it like that. I

1628
01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:02,200
Speaker 2: don't say that they don't have other jobs. I don't

1629
01:37:02,200 --> 01:37:05,040
Speaker 2: say they don't protect public property. They don't protect a park,

1630
01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:09,559
Speaker 2: they don't protect wildlife or or forests or earning. The

1631
01:37:09,600 --> 01:37:14,439
Speaker 2: objective of the fire department is to prevent the loss

1632
01:37:14,439 --> 01:37:19,439
Speaker 2: of life and the loss of property. And that kids

1633
01:37:20,080 --> 01:37:24,519
Speaker 2: is as capitalist as one can think. Now does it

1634
01:37:24,680 --> 01:37:29,320
Speaker 2: match my definition of what capitalism is. Capitalism is people

1635
01:37:29,400 --> 01:37:33,320
Speaker 2: living their lives to the moments of their happiness without

1636
01:37:33,360 --> 01:37:34,960
Speaker 2: the concept of acceptance.

1637
01:37:35,720 --> 01:37:37,400
Speaker 3: And it doesn't go any further than that.

1638
01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:42,080
Speaker 2: You choose your course, you choose your path, you choose

1639
01:37:42,120 --> 01:37:45,240
Speaker 2: how hard you want to work, you choose when.

1640
01:37:45,080 --> 01:37:48,200
Speaker 3: The moment is you know what I'm done here? That's capitalism.

1641
01:37:48,560 --> 01:37:51,000
Speaker 2: You can argue it's just well this this very simple

1642
01:37:51,479 --> 01:37:53,840
Speaker 2: kind of economic sess. No, I'm not going to tell

1643
01:37:53,880 --> 01:37:56,519
Speaker 2: you no. And you could argue that capitalism is terrible,

1644
01:37:56,560 --> 01:37:58,360
Speaker 2: and I'll say to you, okay, but it's better than

1645
01:37:58,360 --> 01:38:01,720
Speaker 2: everything else out there. It's terrible, and it's still the

1646
01:38:01,760 --> 01:38:05,160
Speaker 2: best choice. So what are we talking about? But people

1647
01:38:05,439 --> 01:38:08,799
Speaker 2: never accept the idea that what capitalism is truly about

1648
01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:11,640
Speaker 2: is choosing your own course and choosing.

1649
01:38:11,360 --> 01:38:14,800
Speaker 3: When you've had enough. I've often used as my.

1650
01:38:14,840 --> 01:38:20,920
Speaker 2: Example, who is happier, Who is more successful? The guy

1651
01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:24,720
Speaker 2: who teaches ski lessons and veil who lives in the

1652
01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:31,080
Speaker 2: studio apartment, or the BioMed ceo who has millions in

1653
01:38:31,120 --> 01:38:34,599
Speaker 2: the bank, drives whatever it is your favorite luxury car

1654
01:38:34,800 --> 01:38:37,599
Speaker 2: is and has the twelve thousand square foot home.

1655
01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:41,920
Speaker 3: How would I know? How is it possible that I

1656
01:38:41,960 --> 01:38:42,360
Speaker 3: would know?

1657
01:38:43,360 --> 01:38:50,080
Speaker 2: Capitalism allows both of those people to exist. Good people

1658
01:38:50,200 --> 01:38:54,240
Speaker 2: choosing their own course, choosing their own design, choosing how

1659
01:38:54,560 --> 01:38:58,040
Speaker 2: it is they want to move forward, choosing the moment

1660
01:38:58,200 --> 01:39:04,240
Speaker 2: of their happiness. I say, lissimo, this is good. Why

1661
01:39:04,280 --> 01:39:08,120
Speaker 2: would anybody want anything else? It is too weird for words,

1662
01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:11,519
Speaker 2: way too weird for words.

1663
01:39:12,400 --> 01:39:17,720
Speaker 3: This is what you want? What fire departments do? They

1664
01:39:17,720 --> 01:39:18,360
Speaker 3: save lives?

1665
01:39:18,400 --> 01:39:22,120
Speaker 2: Of course they save lives. It's unbelievable. Is a rare

1666
01:39:22,200 --> 01:39:27,799
Speaker 2: breed of people. But saving the lives and protecting property.

1667
01:39:27,880 --> 01:39:32,599
Speaker 2: Protecting lives and protecting property capitalism, because no one is

1668
01:39:32,640 --> 01:39:36,400
Speaker 2: better off if your neighbor's house is on fire and

1669
01:39:36,439 --> 01:39:40,880
Speaker 2: we just let it burn. No one is better off

1670
01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:46,280
Speaker 2: because that fire can spread to your house or my house,

1671
01:39:46,640 --> 01:39:49,719
Speaker 2: and no one is better off. Do you think anybody

1672
01:39:49,840 --> 01:39:53,160
Speaker 2: was better off with the madness in the Palisades in California?

1673
01:39:53,439 --> 01:39:57,479
Speaker 2: When Los Angeles County and the Governor Gavin Newsom simply

1674
01:39:57,520 --> 01:40:00,639
Speaker 2: refused through ineptitude to do anything about these fires.

1675
01:40:00,680 --> 01:40:03,080
Speaker 3: They were inempt incapable.

1676
01:40:03,400 --> 01:40:09,080
Speaker 2: They were blanking morons, schmucks, losers tools. They hate the

1677
01:40:09,120 --> 01:40:11,840
Speaker 2: people of California. They hate the people of Los Angeles,

1678
01:40:11,960 --> 01:40:14,439
Speaker 2: And now all these months of not a year later,

1679
01:40:14,560 --> 01:40:18,960
Speaker 2: they won't even let those people rebuild. They're gonna steal

1680
01:40:19,040 --> 01:40:21,920
Speaker 2: that land from them and put on I don't know,

1681
01:40:22,240 --> 01:40:24,720
Speaker 2: mixed use or low income this, or a bunch of

1682
01:40:24,920 --> 01:40:29,120
Speaker 2: nonsense garbage. They're going to through leg through the not

1683
01:40:29,160 --> 01:40:32,759
Speaker 2: just the legislation, through the regulatory environments. They're gonna steal

1684
01:40:32,840 --> 01:40:34,840
Speaker 2: that land from people because people are just gonna give

1685
01:40:34,920 --> 01:40:38,639
Speaker 2: up because this government's too damn hard to work with.

1686
01:40:39,280 --> 01:40:41,080
Speaker 3: That's California now.

1687
01:40:41,200 --> 01:40:47,759
Speaker 2: Capitalism, not interested strong fire department actually fighting the fire.

1688
01:40:47,840 --> 01:40:51,639
Speaker 2: That's what you want in every way, that's what you want,

1689
01:40:53,280 --> 01:40:55,439
Speaker 2: protecting property, protecting lives.

1690
01:40:55,840 --> 01:40:58,240
Speaker 3: Let's do it the other way, protecting lives and protecting property,

1691
01:40:58,240 --> 01:41:01,719
Speaker 3: because the lives are indeed more important. Capitalism is good.

1692
01:41:01,960 --> 01:41:05,360
Speaker 2: Capitalism works, and what these lefties want to put together

1693
01:41:06,080 --> 01:41:09,080
Speaker 2: it doesn't work. The fire department doesn't work when the

1694
01:41:09,160 --> 01:41:10,440
Speaker 2: lefties are in charge.

1695
01:41:10,760 --> 01:41:11,960
Speaker 3: The Palisades proves it.

1696
01:41:12,680 --> 01:41:16,040
Speaker 2: You need people who believe in capitalism, believe in private

1697
01:41:16,080 --> 01:41:19,679
Speaker 2: property and private property rights, who believe that we should

1698
01:41:19,680 --> 01:41:20,479
Speaker 2: protect life.

1699
01:41:20,640 --> 01:41:22,280
Speaker 3: You need those people to be.

1700
01:41:22,400 --> 01:41:24,760
Speaker 2: In charge in order to make sure you've got the

1701
01:41:24,840 --> 01:41:27,839
Speaker 2: services that mean we are going to be safe and secure.

1702
01:41:28,320 --> 01:41:30,120
Speaker 2: I don't know how much more obvious it can be.

1703
01:41:30,720 --> 01:41:32,799
Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today.

1704
01:41:33,040 --> 01:41:35,760
Speaker 15: When you shut down the Strait of Hormoves, whether by

1705
01:41:35,840 --> 01:41:40,120
Speaker 15: closure de facto or deiay, right, the baseline is that

1706
01:41:40,160 --> 01:41:41,400
Speaker 15: it is ships.

1707
01:41:41,040 --> 01:41:43,960
Speaker 4: Are not crossing so for very very few, and you have.

1708
01:41:43,960 --> 01:41:47,799
Speaker 15: A disruption somewhere in the ten million barrel of oil

1709
01:41:47,920 --> 01:41:53,000
Speaker 15: plus jet fuel and diesel and other refined products. Then

1710
01:41:53,560 --> 01:41:57,439
Speaker 15: oil prices are priced today I think still even maybe

1711
01:41:57,479 --> 01:41:58,560
Speaker 15: a little bit complacently.

1712
01:41:59,520 --> 01:42:00,680
Speaker 3: This is the biggest.

1713
01:42:00,400 --> 01:42:04,640
Speaker 15: Shortage and energy crisis we've had in global history. So

1714
01:42:05,120 --> 01:42:07,560
Speaker 15: I think these prices now start compounding.

1715
01:42:07,880 --> 01:42:09,160
Speaker 8: In other words, we'll close it around.

1716
01:42:09,240 --> 01:42:11,599
Speaker 15: Let's say today we'll be somewhere at around one hundred dollars.

1717
01:42:12,160 --> 01:42:15,280
Speaker 15: But I think with the conditions on the ground, without

1718
01:42:15,320 --> 01:42:19,040
Speaker 15: a change, this gets worse and worse because of that

1719
01:42:19,160 --> 01:42:23,840
Speaker 15: compounding effect of loss of both transport of crude, the

1720
01:42:23,920 --> 01:42:27,520
Speaker 15: production of crude starts slowing, and the refined products.

1721
01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:31,519
Speaker 2: Now, I'm gonna take the words of a former Biden

1722
01:42:31,680 --> 01:42:34,800
Speaker 2: energy advisor with a grain of salt. I'm not going

1723
01:42:34,840 --> 01:42:38,679
Speaker 2: to pretend that there isn't an issue regarding oil, because

1724
01:42:38,720 --> 01:42:43,240
Speaker 2: that would be insane. Tony Kas Tony CAAs today, good

1725
01:42:43,240 --> 01:42:46,320
Speaker 2: to be here, Good to be with you. This is

1726
01:42:46,360 --> 01:42:49,759
Speaker 2: about the Straits of Hormuz. And if you have never

1727
01:42:49,960 --> 01:42:51,760
Speaker 2: taken a look at a.

1728
01:42:51,760 --> 01:42:55,640
Speaker 3: Map, it's important. You need to.

1729
01:42:56,920 --> 01:42:59,519
Speaker 2: You need to see what it is that you're dealing

1730
01:42:59,520 --> 01:43:04,960
Speaker 2: with these Straits of Hormuz in this area between Iran

1731
01:43:05,160 --> 01:43:10,200
Speaker 2: and Oman and the UAE. It's this little hump that

1732
01:43:10,400 --> 01:43:13,840
Speaker 2: connects the Persian Gulf to the Gulf of Oman and

1733
01:43:13,840 --> 01:43:20,040
Speaker 2: then into the Arabian Sea. And that's the little I

1734
01:43:20,120 --> 01:43:22,080
Speaker 2: called it, hump round about whatever you want to call

1735
01:43:22,120 --> 01:43:25,280
Speaker 2: the thing, a little jut out that all these oil

1736
01:43:25,360 --> 01:43:31,800
Speaker 2: tankers have to navigate. They have to go around this,

1737
01:43:32,560 --> 01:43:38,000
Speaker 2: and Iran because of the war, is really making.

1738
01:43:37,640 --> 01:43:40,240
Speaker 3: That very, very, very difficult.

1739
01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:44,320
Speaker 2: And you've got blockages, and what you have are a

1740
01:43:44,439 --> 01:43:49,920
Speaker 2: lot of ships that simply they're afraid to go around it.

1741
01:43:49,920 --> 01:43:53,040
Speaker 2: They're afraid to move through it. They don't want to

1742
01:43:53,080 --> 01:43:56,880
Speaker 2: get destroyed. Trump is saying, what are you talking about.

1743
01:43:56,920 --> 01:44:00,400
Speaker 2: We've destroyed the navy. They can't do anything. I still

1744
01:44:00,439 --> 01:44:04,519
Speaker 2: have some missile launchers and there's real concern. So, as

1745
01:44:04,920 --> 01:44:06,839
Speaker 2: I've been saying, I think there's only three ways.

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01:44:06,600 --> 01:44:07,360
Speaker 3: This is handled.

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01:44:08,200 --> 01:44:12,839
Speaker 2: This is handled by the absolute obliteration of the Iranian regime,

1748
01:44:13,240 --> 01:44:20,360
Speaker 2: the killing of the Ayatola's son. Because Komane's son is

1749
01:44:21,360 --> 01:44:28,040
Speaker 2: now in charge, he's now the new leader. Mushtaba Mojtaba

1750
01:44:29,200 --> 01:44:33,040
Speaker 2: has been named the new Supreme leader, a hardliner like

1751
01:44:33,080 --> 01:44:39,360
Speaker 2: his father, close to the IRGC and so expect more

1752
01:44:39,400 --> 01:44:41,800
Speaker 2: of the same. He has to go too, because no

1753
01:44:41,960 --> 01:44:44,639
Speaker 2: part of the regime can remain If Trump wants victory

1754
01:44:44,760 --> 01:44:47,080
Speaker 2: and wants to be able to claim victory. I mean sure,

1755
01:44:47,320 --> 01:44:48,960
Speaker 2: they could leave right now and say, oh, look we've

1756
01:44:48,960 --> 01:44:50,040
Speaker 2: got victory.

1757
01:44:49,840 --> 01:44:53,320
Speaker 3: The first rule of trump Ism as Trump wins. The

1758
01:44:53,320 --> 01:44:54,440
Speaker 3: second rule of trump.

1759
01:44:54,200 --> 01:44:55,720
Speaker 2: Ism is that a deal can always be made as

1760
01:44:55,760 --> 01:44:57,120
Speaker 2: long as that it hears to the first rule of

1761
01:44:57,160 --> 01:45:00,000
Speaker 2: trump Ism. Of course Trump could just say all right,

1762
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:02,240
Speaker 2: it's done, it's over. We did our job, okay, is

1763
01:45:02,280 --> 01:45:06,280
Speaker 2: you'll clean up the rest nights that could happen. I

1764
01:45:06,320 --> 01:45:09,360
Speaker 2: just don't think it's going to happen. So you either

1765
01:45:09,439 --> 01:45:11,559
Speaker 2: take out the full regime so there's nothing less than

1766
01:45:11,560 --> 01:45:13,200
Speaker 2: the left and the IRGC.

1767
01:45:12,920 --> 01:45:14,719
Speaker 3: Is broken and gone.

1768
01:45:15,040 --> 01:45:19,840
Speaker 2: You send in military assets into the Gulf of Oman

1769
01:45:20,640 --> 01:45:26,639
Speaker 2: to protect these tankers coming through the straits, or as

1770
01:45:26,760 --> 01:45:31,960
Speaker 2: I see it, you look to Venezuela and you say,

1771
01:45:31,960 --> 01:45:35,400
Speaker 2: you know what, it's time for you to start really pumping.

1772
01:45:36,439 --> 01:45:36,639
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1773
01:45:36,720 --> 01:45:41,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll replace you too, Delsea Rodriguez. It is time

1774
01:45:42,920 --> 01:45:49,720
Speaker 2: to get aggressive on the pumping. Make it happen. You

1775
01:45:49,760 --> 01:45:52,719
Speaker 2: know what, We'll send in our guys, We'll make it happen.

1776
01:45:54,040 --> 01:45:58,400
Speaker 2: That's that's that's what we'll do. So these are these

1777
01:45:58,400 --> 01:46:02,240
Speaker 2: are the three moves, right, the three moments that are

1778
01:46:02,360 --> 01:46:04,479
Speaker 2: possible and one of those three has to happen.

1779
01:46:04,920 --> 01:46:08,960
Speaker 3: Maybe all three have to happen. But I say to.

1780
01:46:08,920 --> 01:46:12,559
Speaker 2: You that what we're seeing, you know, when you've got

1781
01:46:12,720 --> 01:46:15,320
Speaker 2: There was a moment where Brent crude over the weekend

1782
01:46:15,439 --> 01:46:17,840
Speaker 2: was four maybe that did Friday it was like one

1783
01:46:17,920 --> 01:46:21,360
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty something dollars a barrel, and West Texas

1784
01:46:21,360 --> 01:46:25,720
Speaker 2: Crewed wasn't very far behind that, literally pennies behind that.

1785
01:46:26,160 --> 01:46:29,080
Speaker 2: And for you know, most part of the morning day

1786
01:46:29,160 --> 01:46:32,479
Speaker 2: it was one hundred dollars a barrel. Well gases up

1787
01:46:32,520 --> 01:46:34,920
Speaker 2: to three three dollars and forty cents on average. I

1788
01:46:34,920 --> 01:46:37,120
Speaker 2: thought it'd be three ten on average across the country.

1789
01:46:37,240 --> 01:46:39,759
Speaker 2: So it jumped up more than I thought it would. Okay,

1790
01:46:40,720 --> 01:46:42,880
Speaker 2: can America take it? Can it handle it?

1791
01:46:42,920 --> 01:46:44,559
Speaker 3: Will it there?

1792
01:46:44,640 --> 01:46:46,680
Speaker 2: The left is going to bet that they could turn

1793
01:46:46,720 --> 01:46:48,519
Speaker 2: this into a Look what Trump did, and it's a

1794
01:46:48,600 --> 01:46:50,680
Speaker 2: legal war. And now you're thinking all prices go up

1795
01:46:50,680 --> 01:46:53,320
Speaker 2: and gas prices go up. Trump is just too terrible.

1796
01:46:53,920 --> 01:46:56,439
Speaker 2: Trump's argument is, and he put this out on truth

1797
01:46:56,479 --> 01:47:01,599
Speaker 2: Social this is short. This is all very very short.

1798
01:47:02,840 --> 01:47:05,639
Speaker 2: This is what we do. This everything will drop once

1799
01:47:05,680 --> 01:47:07,720
Speaker 2: we win. It's a small price to pay for the

1800
01:47:07,800 --> 01:47:10,920
Speaker 2: USA and world safety and peace. I happen to agree

1801
01:47:10,920 --> 01:47:14,240
Speaker 2: with that. Now Trump has to go sell that. You

1802
01:47:14,320 --> 01:47:16,840
Speaker 2: gotta go out there and say that this makes sense.

1803
01:47:16,920 --> 01:47:20,240
Speaker 2: This was about America's safety and security. I don't know

1804
01:47:20,280 --> 01:47:22,519
Speaker 2: what it is with these woke right Tucker people and

1805
01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:25,200
Speaker 2: these left wing freaks that want a rand to be

1806
01:47:25,280 --> 01:47:28,400
Speaker 2: able to just attack us at will for the next

1807
01:47:28,439 --> 01:47:30,439
Speaker 2: one hundred years. But that is no way for us

1808
01:47:30,520 --> 01:47:32,760
Speaker 2: to live. We shouldn't have to endure that. They have

1809
01:47:32,840 --> 01:47:34,400
Speaker 2: to be ended, and we're not gonna let them get

1810
01:47:34,439 --> 01:47:36,840
Speaker 2: a nuclear weapon. So we ended them. It was the

1811
01:47:36,880 --> 01:47:39,599
Speaker 2: smart right thing to do. Oil prices will come down.

1812
01:47:39,880 --> 01:47:42,360
Speaker 2: Everybody get on board. This is what winning looks like.

1813
01:47:42,640 --> 01:47:44,479
Speaker 2: You might not be used to it, but that's what

1814
01:47:44,520 --> 01:47:47,800
Speaker 2: we do now. I think that is a winning message.

1815
01:47:48,120 --> 01:47:51,200
Speaker 2: Can he sell it? Well, let's find out find everything

1816
01:47:51,240 --> 01:47:52,799
Speaker 2: at Tony kats dot com tomorrow.

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01:47:52,840 --> 01:47:53,720
Speaker 3: Everyone to take care