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Speaker 2: Two o'clock guest Tony East shares on Twitter the Pacers

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Speaker 1: see each other too regularly that you cannot tell if

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Speaker 1: my weight to he's gone up or down.

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Speaker 2: I would agree because like when Jimmy Cook used to

436
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Speaker 2: work with us on the Midday Show. You know, Jimmy

437
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 2: went through that weight loss journey, and like you just

438
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Speaker 2: see that person every day.

439
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Speaker 1: It's like you look at a picture, right and you're like, wow, yeaka, Now,

440
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 1: in Philip Rivers's case, you could tell.

441
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Speaker 3: You can tell he's gain weight.

442
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Speaker 1: Not not necessarily like wow, that guy's been sitting around

443
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Speaker 1: and doing nothing but eating and Totino's pizza rules.

444
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Speaker 3: You ever had those things?

445
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Speaker 1: Oh, yes, unbelievable, that's like college bliss, but nonetheless not

446
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Speaker 1: that way. But just he doesn't look thirty five years old.

447
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,919
Speaker 1: He doesn't look twenty eight years old. And he joked

448
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:43,959
Speaker 1: about it, but you know who knows. He kind of

449
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 1: throws the ball the same way that he always did.

450
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Speaker 1: I thought yesterday Jeff George said something fascinating when Jeff

451
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Speaker 1: George said, you know all of the times, and I

452
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Speaker 1: know Jeff well enough to know that there were a

453
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Speaker 1: lot of times Jeff was going out and throwing and

454
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Speaker 1: just keeping his arm in shape and keeping in shape

455
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Speaker 1: because he loves the game of football. And one of

456
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Speaker 1: the most telling things he said I thought yesterday was

457
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Speaker 1: when he said when we had them on, when he

458
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Speaker 1: said all of the times that I felt in shape,

459
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Speaker 1: but I had not putting cleats back on and I

460
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Speaker 1: had forgotten what it was like to put on cleats,

461
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Speaker 1: and when I did, my footing was completely different, and

462
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Speaker 1: I could feel it in my calves and in my achilles,

463
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Speaker 1: on my ankles because I had not it had been

464
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Speaker 1: five years since i'd put on cleats. And Philip rivers,

465
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Speaker 1: because he's a high school football coach, maybe he is

466
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Speaker 1: putting them on. I don't know, the point being there

467
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Speaker 1: are nuances of your body at that age that you

468
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Speaker 1: didn't pay attention to and you did not hear beforehand.

469
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Speaker 1: But with this situation and with the forecast being uncertain

470
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Speaker 1: for the Colts, one thing I thought about today, there

471
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Speaker 1: might be a silver lining in all of this. There

472
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Speaker 1: might be good news in all of this, and it

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Speaker 1: might be something that we were so hyper focused on

474
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Speaker 1: the main storyline that we didn't pay attention to the

475
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Speaker 1: little anecdote at the bottom of the forecast.

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Speaker 3: And I'll tell you what it is.

477
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Speaker 1: I might have good news for you Colts fans on

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Speaker 1: this front weather term again regarding their quarterback situation and

479
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Speaker 1: it's uncertainty Brian Knew. We're going to join us one

480
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: o'clock today. We'll get the latest on Braden Smith. We'll

481
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Speaker 1: get into that as well. He had essentially a hand injury.

482
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Speaker 1: Doesn't look like it's one that is going to limit him.

483
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Speaker 1: He played thirty two minutes last night. Tony East coming

484
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Speaker 1: up two o'clock today that Pacers news and more to

485
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Speaker 1: talk about with Tony and Matt Taylor Voice of the

486
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Speaker 1: Colts at two point thirty today, you're listening to Quary Company.

487
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Speaker 3: To listen to it.

488
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Speaker 1: It's a Thursday, rights, it feels like a Monday because

489
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Speaker 1: it's New Digs, a quarry company here in the fan.

490
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Speaker 1: Indeed in the dark forecast that we thought was there

491
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Speaker 1: for the Colts. I'm going to offer you a little

492
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Speaker 1: bit of sun Okay, I'm going to offer you a

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Speaker 1: positive That's what I.

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Speaker 3: Am, Eddie.

495
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Speaker 1: I'm the eternal optimist, right I'm walking sunshine, baby beakon

496
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Speaker 1: of hope. Call me Katrina and the Waves because I'm

497
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Speaker 1: walking on sunshine. I'm telling you right now. Okay, I

498
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: still find that odd. What's that Katrina and the Waves.

499
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Speaker 3: I know it's there's a little bit mush, right, Okay.

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Speaker 1: When Daniel Jones signed with the Colts with this history lesson,

501
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Speaker 1: but I will briefly we all know it. I think

502
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:33,880
Speaker 1: all the colts aren't messing around anymore. They're letting Anthony

503
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 1: Richardson know the time is now. They're letting Anthony Richardson know, Okay,

504
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 1: we let you. We handed you the keys too early,

505
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 1: and you came back. And while you did bring the

506
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: car back in one piece and you were only ten

507
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: minutes late after midnight of your curfew, there are a

508
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 1: couple of door dans that were like, yeah, you probably

509
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 1: weren't totally reckless, but you were a little immature and

510
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: a little irresponsible with the toy that you were handed.

511
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: And so they said, we're going to go ahead and

512
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: get one of the seniors to drive you to school

513
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: every day. And that's what we thought, Daniel Jones was.

514
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: They signed Daniel Jones because they wanted he was on.

515
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: They went into TJ Max, there he was, and they.

516
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Speaker 4: Thought, you know what, why why not? That's what we thought,

517
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Speaker 4: That's what I thought.

518
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Speaker 1: That's I mean, most of us thought, Okay, Daniel Jones,

519
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: if something's there, great, But this is he is there

520
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: to push Anthony Richardson, to force Anthony Richardson into taking

521
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Speaker 1: the craft more seriously, and to putting Anthony Richardson in

522
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Speaker 1: the position of Okay, now I have a veteran who's

523
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Speaker 1: been a regular starter for multiple years in the NFL

524
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Speaker 1: to come in and just kind of make sure that

525
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 1: I'm getting to the film room on time. That's what

526
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: we thought his role was. And then as training camp

527
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Speaker 1: goes along, Steven Holder was one of the first that

528
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Speaker 1: I can recall. Mike Chappell started saying, I think Daniel

529
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Speaker 1: Jones might be the starter week one, and we're like, really,

530
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Speaker 1: he's playing that well, well, it's not that, it's that

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Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson hasn't like taken a huge step. And yet

532
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Speaker 1: at the same time, I kept thinking to myself, but

533
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Speaker 1: a tie would go to the incumbent, and I think

534
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Speaker 1: I said on the air, a tie goes to the incumbent.

535
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Speaker 4: We know what happened.

536
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Speaker 1: I think in hindsight we can look back and say

537
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: Shane Steiken notably, but either he or Chris Ballard, one

538
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Speaker 1: of the two saw something in Daniel Jones. They said

539
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: to themselves very early on, this guy was taken for

540
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: granted in New York and if you look at the

541
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Speaker 1: situations where he was put in with advantage around him,

542
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: he was very good and he can be good for

543
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: us and he has been and then, of course the injury.

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Speaker 1: Here's where the sun comes, Eddie. Let me ask you,

545
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Speaker 1: if Daniel Jones right now was still the starting quarterback

546
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Speaker 1: of the Indianapolis Colts, if they had gone down and

547
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: they'd won in Jacksonville and they were nine and four,

548
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: and they're right there in the thick, what is the

549
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: storyline with Daniel Jones in regards to next year? If

550
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Speaker 1: he had never had either leg injury, what was the storyline.

551
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 3: At that point if he went to Jacksonville in one.

552
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Speaker 1: If Daniel Jones was maintaining at the same level that

553
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: we saw through eight games and did not have injury

554
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: on either leg, what discussion are we having right now

555
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: in relation to the future of Daniel Jones.

556
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Speaker 3: How much is the contract extension worth?

557
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Speaker 1: Correct now, when you look at this year's crop of

558
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: quarterback free agents, if you look at the players that

559
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: if you are a team that is floundering looking for

560
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: a quarterback, the Jets, the Saints, you know there are

561
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: a ton of franchises that, sure there are some French

562
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: quarterback that you know that that young quarterback is going

563
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: to be their future. Tennessee are just not very good,

564
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,959
Speaker 1: but there are other franchises that, and then there are

565
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: those that have one that they're probably later in the

566
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Speaker 1: process but still doing evaluation Atlanta. And then there are

567
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Speaker 1: those that clearly are in the market. But if you

568
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Speaker 1: look at the market of free agents for quarterbacks right

569
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Speaker 1: now entering into this year's postseason, Aaron Rodgers, Okay, I mean,

570
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Speaker 1: does anybody want a guy that basically is half the

571
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: time he is like doing a coffee in and the

572
00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: other half of the time he's in a geriatric ward.

573
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Speaker 1: I mean, come on, and drama just surrounds him everywhere

574
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: he goes. That's Aaron Rodgers. Russell Wilson, Yeah, okay, I

575
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: mean how many franchises now are going to continue to

576
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: be the one that thinks that they're going to be

577
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Speaker 1: the one to find the last drop squeeze out of

578
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson been a great player at his career. Don't

579
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: get me wrong, Joe Flacco. This is literally the list

580
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: of the most desirable free agent quarterbacks heading into this offseason.

581
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Speaker 1: Joe Flacco, see what I said about Aaron Rodgers, less

582
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Speaker 1: the coffee part, and then the guy that's going to

583
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: take over for the rest of the year in Washington now,

584
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: Marcus mari Otta. I'm doing the count. So that's your list,

585
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: Meaning Daniel Jones, if healthy, was probably going to the

586
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: top the agent in the NFL, and his price tag

587
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: was going to be astronomical, at least astronomical versus what

588
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: you felt for sure you had coming in. And now

589
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: you're in a position where he still might be. He

590
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: still might be the most desired free agent on the market,

591
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: but his price tag, one would assume, drops significantly.

592
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 3: And if you are.

593
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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, you probably have ruled yourself down now to

594
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: two franchises under which you have an interest Indianapolis or Minnesota.

595
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: You're not going back to New York. You were in Minnesota,

596
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: You're now with Indianapolis. You are experiencing and coming back

597
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: from significant injury, and so as a result of that,

598
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: you probably want to be surrounded by staff with which

599
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: you're familiar. You would want to have a medical staff

600
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: that you are familiar with, and in addition to that,

601
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: you probably want to go to a system that you

602
00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: know automatically, because your priority in next year is not

603
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: just getting out and playing and being able to play

604
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: right away, but more importantly than be able to focus

605
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: on your having to focus on learning an entirely new playbook.

606
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: So Daniel Jones, all of a sudden now is a

607
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: viable option for the Colts moving forward if they feel

608
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Speaker 1: that he can continue to play at the same level.

609
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: But they're going to be able to get him for

610
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: probably two years on that And the first one I

611
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: realize is a feel it out and what kind of

612
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: player is he time period. But he is going to

613
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: be able to do so now where Alec Pierce, for example,

614
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: guess what, that's a lot more affordable now or not

615
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: a lot more viable on what you can give him

616
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: because what you thought was going to be the biggest

617
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: expense you were going to have to go out and

618
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: get during the Christmas season now just dipped drastically in

619
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Speaker 1: its price tag.

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Speaker 3: And that is the sun that.

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Speaker 1: Can peek through on this period period of murkiness when

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00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: it comes to the Colts. I think the Colts look

623
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: at it now and say to themselves, Daniel Jones is

624
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: going to be back here next year, and we're going

625
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: to go ahead and pay for his a year possibly

626
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 1: an entire year of rehabilitation, a year where feeling out

627
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: where he is. But that's what they did this year.

628
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: He was brought in this year under a what do

629
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: we have here? We're spending the year kicking the tires period,

630
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: And so now that's exactly where they are again next year,

631
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,479
Speaker 1: more from a health standpoint versus a just how bad

632
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 1: was his previous situation standpoint, And so they now are

633
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,760
Speaker 1: in a position where they can get answers for another

634
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: year or two at the quarterback position and do so

635
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: at probably a massive fraction of the price. They're still

636
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 1: able to go in and get their quarterback at TJ Max,

637
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: and they don't have to pay Nords for money. Both stores,

638
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: by the way, love both stores. Brian Neuberg going to

639
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: join us coming up about twenty minutes from now. We

640
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: will get into what happened last night in mac Urina,

641
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 1: including is there something speaking of injuries, I hate saying that,

642
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,240
Speaker 1: because there's been something in the water in Indiana. Looks

643
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: like Perdue might have died went a little bit, but

644
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: examined further football preseason player of the Year and health status.

645
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: Last night, Perdue big win over Minnesota. When I say big,

646
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,280
Speaker 1: I mean resounding win. We'll get into that. Brian Newburg

647
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: gonna join us coming up top of the hour, including

648
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 1: we will find out if there's more, I'll let you

649
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: happen last night when I'm talking about with Brayden Smith.

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Speaker 1: But before we do that, let's go to the very

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Speaker 1: first time Eddie. This is literally like you ever did

652
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Speaker 1: you ever go to the Rivy dive tank, the what

653
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Speaker 1: up on the north side, the Riviera Club they had.

654
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Speaker 1: It's no longer there, unfortunately, but they had the dive tank,

655
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Speaker 1: which is where you would the diving board, high dive,

656
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Speaker 1: low dive, and the water was like ice. It was awesome,

657
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Speaker 1: awesome in the depths of summer. But you would stand

658
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Speaker 1: there and just you know what I'm talking about, when

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Speaker 1: you know, you know that the water's cold and you're

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Speaker 1: just standing, You're looking, You're looking. You know you got

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Speaker 1: to jump eventually, right, but you're terrified of you know,

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Speaker 1: just the cold water itself.

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Speaker 3: There's once it gets about midweste you're good to go.

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Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying now, that's kind of

665
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Speaker 1: what we're doing here because admittedly, and I know that

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Speaker 1: the listeners and I appreciate everybody listening to the show.

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Speaker 1: To them, they're like, yeah, man, you're still the same

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Speaker 1: dial on my radio station. The fact that we're in

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Speaker 1: a new studio with a new system and all of it.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're moving on up. We're like the Jeffersons.

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Speaker 1: But nobody cares about that except for that. We're trying

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Speaker 1: out and working out the bugs on some new things,

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Speaker 1: including the phone system.

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Speaker 3: Correct. I think the phones work.

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Speaker 1: Okay, We're going to try it with Jeff, who, at

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Speaker 1: least in terms of quarrying company, is the first to

677
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Speaker 1: call in, and I think it's because he disagrees with me.

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Speaker 1: Jeffer you here, I'm here.

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Speaker 5: Can you hear me?

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Speaker 3: I can?

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate you calling in. Welcome. You are the for

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Speaker 3: You're a cold water Jeff. I hope they didn't bother you.

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Speaker 7: I better make it good then, right, that's right.

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Speaker 3: What's on your mind at the bar high?

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Speaker 8: Hey.

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Speaker 5: As far as Anthony Richardson, I mean that experiment was

688
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Speaker 5: done when they drafted him in the NFL. Quarterbacks are

689
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Speaker 5: the name of the position. You've got to have the

690
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Speaker 5: best and you got to have accuracy.

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Speaker 8: He had none.

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Speaker 5: I don't care about the freak athlete. Brady wasn't a

693
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Speaker 5: freak athlete, So that was just a mess. Here's the

694
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Speaker 5: thing about your sunshine, It's all positive We're kind of

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Speaker 5: back to where we were before Anthony Richardson. We don't

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Speaker 5: have a quarterback. We're not going to be able to

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Speaker 5: get anybody to draft because didn't we give that draft

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Speaker 5: pickaway this year?

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Speaker 4: Two of them the next two years, the next two years.

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Speaker 5: And why anybody thought to give two draft picks for

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Speaker 5: anybody other than the edge rusher.

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Speaker 8: Is beyond me.

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Speaker 4: You don't need you can find dbs Kelly.

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Speaker 5: They got two people off of free agency this year,

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Speaker 5: so we're back to square one. The only great thing

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Speaker 5: about this is because I can't stand the Colts organization.

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Speaker 5: Love professional football, love the Colts. But it happened before

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Speaker 5: all renewable the tickets happened, so all these people could

709
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Speaker 5: just go. You know what, if you guys think this

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Speaker 5: is a funny now, not talking to you, Jake fucking

711
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Speaker 5: the Colts.

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Speaker 6: Everybody think this is the.

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Speaker 5: Greatest thing bringing Rivers in, It's.

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Speaker 9: The most embasing, disgusting thing that's ever happened in professional

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Speaker 9: football in the Colts organization. I can't believe that this

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Speaker 9: is a professional organization.

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Speaker 7: It's kind of like.

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Speaker 5: I thought, Jimmy her say it was a little cuckoo,

719
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Speaker 5: and I think his daughter probably falls in his footsteps,

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Speaker 5: go sell the team to Peyton Manning. Then let's start

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Speaker 5: turning this thing around.

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Speaker 1: Well, okay, a couple of things here, Jeff I and

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Speaker 1: stay with me here, okay, because I want to have

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Speaker 1: the dialogue here as opposed to you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: I totally get what you're saying. Let's begin with this point.

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Speaker 1: Of the Anthony Richardson Daniel Jones situation and me saying

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Speaker 1: that's where the sun is. What I'm saying is, if

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Speaker 1: you look at the list of free agents that are

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Speaker 1: out there, and you look at the fact that they

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Speaker 1: don't have a first round pick in the next two years,

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Speaker 1: clearly they were committed to Daniel Jones. Clearly Daniel Jones,

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Speaker 1: just like you said. And I don't think you're wrong

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Speaker 1: in the fact that you know, when you say that

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Speaker 1: the Richardson experiment was over before it began for most

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Speaker 1: of us, you are correct, right, But obviously they saw

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Speaker 1: something there that they wanted to tap into.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 1: But what I'm getting at is once they had turned

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Speaker 1: that page, and once Daniel Jones clearly was the guy

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Speaker 1: that they had made up their mind on, it was

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Speaker 1: going to cost them a significant amount of money to

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Speaker 1: get him, and that price tag now drops drastically.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 1: Granted it's because he's not healthy. I totally get that, right,

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Speaker 1: But what I'm getting at, what I'm saying is if

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Speaker 1: that was the route you were going to go, now

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Speaker 1: you at least have the ability to spend money elsewhere

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Speaker 1: for the next two years.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: I totally agree on the part about the corner and

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Speaker 1: the edge rush. Now in terms of the most ludicrous

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Speaker 1: thing at the quarterback position that this franchise has seen,

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Speaker 1: they did bring in Ricky Turner off of a cement

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Speaker 1: truck to run the wishbone for four games.

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Speaker 5: But that was that was during the striking years. Correct, No,

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Speaker 5: it was not. Okay, I must have got my years continued.

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Speaker 1: That was when Rod Meyer decided he wanted to go

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Speaker 1: during the strike years. That was eighty seven. During the

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Speaker 1: strike year. What happened there was they had Gary Hogebum

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Speaker 1: under contract, and Gary Hogebum was the one guy that

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Speaker 1: didn't go on strike. So he went out and thrown

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Speaker 1: for like five hundred yards in Buffalo against guys that

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Speaker 1: had been playing for Akron two you know, a year

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Speaker 1: ago or whatever. But no, I mean to the point

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Speaker 1: Rod Meyer wanted to do the Wishbone with Eric Dickerson,

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Speaker 1: and so they went out and they got Ricky Turner

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Speaker 1: and they played like three games with them. But point taken, Listen,

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Speaker 1: what I'm getting at is I don't disagree with you

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Speaker 1: in the fundamental of it, Jeff. What I'm saying is

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Speaker 1: when you realistically look at where they were pre injury

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Speaker 1: with Daniel Jones, the reality was that Daniel Jones was

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Speaker 1: going to be their guy for at the next two

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Speaker 1: to three years or four years or whatever whatever they

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Speaker 1: were going to sign him to. He is now going

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Speaker 1: to be their guy probably for two years because they

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Speaker 1: don't have other options, and therefore at least the price

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Speaker 1: tag now drops significantly. And you assume that when he

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Speaker 1: comes back, he comes back a form of what he was,

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Speaker 1: And that's a big if.

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Speaker 3: I get it. I totally get it. Yeah, you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean.

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Speaker 5: Problem, that's the problem. I've got the assuming because we

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Speaker 5: have an We're notorious for finding guys. Richardson's a prime example.

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Speaker 5: Hurt his college career. We went ahead and drafted Aham.

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Speaker 5: I think if I remember right, was it a hooker

786
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Speaker 5: that we had from Ohiose State early coacher he was

787
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Speaker 5: hurt all the time. And I mean even Bob Sanders

788
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Speaker 5: back in his day was hurt all the time. Not

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Speaker 5: granted when he came back, he changed the Deedsben, My

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Speaker 5: biggest issue, You've got to have answers before the questions

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Speaker 5: at the quarterback position.

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Speaker 3: So I get it.

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Speaker 1: But Jeff, my point, I appreciate you calling in and

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Speaker 1: well done on being our guinea pig there. The point

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Speaker 1: being this, it is the most difficult position in sport

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Speaker 1: to master. It is the most difficult and important position

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Speaker 1: in sport to nail down and make sure that you

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Speaker 1: have covered and secured. And the reality is, when you

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Speaker 1: have one, then that gives you some glimpse, some hope,

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Speaker 1: some indication that that is your answer. You have to

801
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Speaker 1: commit to it and for them to commit to it now.

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Speaker 1: And I totally get it. It's a less than ideal scenario, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: I totally get it. What I'm saying is, in a

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Speaker 1: situation that is stormy, if you are trying to be

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Speaker 1: an optimist and I'm being a little flippant, if you're

806
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Speaker 1: trying to be an optimist, then you can find one

807
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: glimmer of light of sun in saying you know what

808
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Speaker 1: at least they don't get into a bidding war now

809
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Speaker 1: with a bunch of other people for a price tag

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Speaker 1: on a guy that you want to have beyond this year.

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Speaker 1: Last night Purdue Mac you arena a little bit of

812
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Speaker 1: an injury at the beginning of the game, But then

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Speaker 1: thirty two minutes after, where do things stand now with

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Speaker 1: Braden Smith?

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Speaker 3: Brian Nuberg joins us next.

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Speaker 4: That's right, just walking around with my little pocket of sunshine.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be I'm going to Milwaukee this weekend.

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Speaker 1: It's supposed to be fifteen below. It's gonna be two

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Speaker 1: below here on. So I'm walking around with my little

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Speaker 1: bit of sunshine. Right, let me give you one little

821
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Speaker 1: bit of sunshine from yesterday. Brian Nuberg gonna join us

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Speaker 1: here in just a minute. But I wanted to pass

823
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Speaker 1: this along. It has nothing to do with sports, but

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Speaker 1: it kind of does because I feel like and I

825
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Speaker 1: get it. Sometimes our job, I talked about it theme

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Speaker 1: of the day forecast. Sometimes we're on, sometimes we're off.

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Speaker 1: Philip Rivers. At the very least, this whole thing's going

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Speaker 1: to be entertaining. I don't know how it's going to go.

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Speaker 1: I don't, but we try to prognosticate the best we can.

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Speaker 1: That's all you can do. And in sports, sometime when

831
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Speaker 1: you're talking about sports, there's so much negativity just in general.

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Speaker 1: Right last night, as I mentioned, and I know people

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Speaker 1: mocked me for this, and that's fine, But for whatever reason,

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Speaker 1: during the holiday season, I have always been one that,

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Speaker 1: at least on a handful of occasions over the month

836
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Speaker 1: of December, I go by myself and I walk around

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Speaker 1: the shopping areas that I went to as a kid,

838
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Speaker 1: because you get the music playing overhead, and you hear

839
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Speaker 1: the ring of the Salvation Army bell and you see

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Speaker 1: Santa Claus over there, and it makes it reminds me

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Speaker 1: of when those things were a big thing and Christmas

842
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Speaker 1: shopping was not an online thing and it was a

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Speaker 1: big thing.

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Speaker 4: And I get it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I get that those are probably you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm holding onto yesteryear there. But nonetheless, there's a nostalgia

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Speaker 1: and a simplicity about it that I appreciate and I enjoy.

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Speaker 1: So last night I had thirty minutes to kill or whatever,

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Speaker 1: and I thought, I'm just gonna go walk. Basically, I'm

850
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Speaker 1: at the age now. I put on my rock ports

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Speaker 1: and I'm a mall walker, not literally but kind of.

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Speaker 1: So I go to Castleton Square Mall and I'm walking

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Speaker 1: around and I'm walking past the area where I see

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Speaker 1: the risers where I sang Christmas carols as a middle

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Speaker 1: school kid, and whatever else, and I'm listening to Mariah

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Speaker 1: Carrey or whatever's playing overhead and the decorations, and I'm

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Speaker 1: just like, you know what it feels Christmas Eve and

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Speaker 1: I like that. And there's a popcorn place there, I

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Speaker 1: think it's called Market Square Popcorn.

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Speaker 4: And they got a little kiosk and they have a

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Speaker 4: really good.

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Speaker 1: Popcorn and I walk up to get a popcorn and

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Speaker 1: this young guy says to me, like, hey, happy Holidays,

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Speaker 1: Like what can I get for you? And I said,

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Speaker 1: I'll just take the small sweet heat please, and he says, okay,

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Speaker 1: no problem. And so and then he says, are you

867
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,240
Speaker 1: buying some good Christmas gifts for your family?

868
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 3: And I said, well, no, I'm actually just kind of

869
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,720
Speaker 3: walking around but whatever else, And I said, how about yourself?

870
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 1: And he said and then he asked how my shopping's going?

871
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: And I said, well, what about yourself? And he said, oh,

872
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 1: I'm just working tonight. This is my first ever job

873
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 1: and I said, how old are you and he said,

874
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: I'm a junior in high school, Lawrence North High School

875
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: and his name's Alex. And I said, oh, okay, And

876
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: I said, so that's great. You know, you got an

877
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 1: after school job. And you just don't see that anymore.

878
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: You don't see high school kids getting after school jobs.

879
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: And I get it, there are a fewer of them

880
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: to have.

881
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 3: I get it.

882
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:14,879
Speaker 1: But this kid, I said, so, what do you want

883
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: to do? You're a junior. What are you going to

884
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 1: do after high school? And he said, I'm going to

885
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: be a motivational speaker because I want to make an

886
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 1: impact and help people and get them on the right path.

887
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: And I want to motivate people. And he's the youngest

888
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: of seven. He's working and he even said to me,

889
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: he said, this job though, it's not about the money,

890
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: it's about making myself get out in front of people

891
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 1: and talk to people. And that is such a building

892
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: block foundation of where the best job I wanted, the

893
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: best job, the best first job anybody could ever have.

894
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: I worked at a Maleu's food market and they taught

895
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: me how to deal with customers, how to talk to people,

896
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 1: how to conflict resolve when people were unhappy with an

897
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: item that was out or whatever. There were so many

898
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 1: valuable things I learned from that job at Amalia's. And

899
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:08,959
Speaker 1: I could see in the personality, the maturity, the how

900
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: courteous and polite this young kid was, that he's going

901
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: to go light years beyond. But I thought it was

902
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 1: awesome that the popcorn place is hiring a high school

903
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: kid to work on an after school shift. And I

904
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: thought it was awesome that he was there working, and

905
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,439
Speaker 1: he was so proud to have that first job.

906
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 3: I could see it.

907
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 1: But yet he also knew that that first job was

908
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 1: a stepping stone for him and not where he wanted

909
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 1: to be forever, because he already has vision elsewhere. So

910
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 1: if you happen to be in Castleton Square and you

911
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: happen to be walking through and you go past the

912
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,479
Speaker 1: Market Square popcorn company and you see a kid working

913
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: named Alex, you go up and give him a fist

914
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: bump and say, you know what you are in fact motivation,

915
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: because yes, sir, no sir, he was as polite as

916
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 1: courteous as could be. And I just think situations like that,

917
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: when you get that little snowflake of positivity that come,

918
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: you need to actually spread it along, because no two

919
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: snowflakes are alike. But it doesn't mean that positivity is

920
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 1: not alike across the board. And when we see it,

921
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,839
Speaker 1: we should reward it and we should acknowledge it. And

922
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 1: so if you are in the area, be sure to

923
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 1: say hi or simply let the folks at the popcorn

924
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: place know that you appreciate them giving that young man

925
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: his opportunity for his first building block. I thought it

926
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: was cool now during that trip. I then looked at

927
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: I said, oh, that's right, Purdue is on tonight. So

928
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: I went to my dad's watch Perdue Minnesota, got there

929
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 1: just in time to see beginning of the game, early

930
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 1: second possession. I think Braden Smith kind of took that

931
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: awkward tumble and just landed awkwardly, kind of like breaking

932
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 1: his fall on his wrist.

933
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,919
Speaker 3: Eddie, you've done this on the ice, right on the ice.

934
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: I've ever been on the ice, I mean like on

935
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 1: an icy sidewalk. You've lost your footage first out to

936
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: grab yourself for sure. Yes, and you get that like

937
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:58,839
Speaker 1: that ooh in your wrist right yes. Afterwards, Matt Pater

938
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 1: was asked about it because Brakan Smith was getting looked

939
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: at for what I think early was diagnosed as a

940
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: sprained hand or a sprained wrist. But of course, when

941
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,240
Speaker 1: you're talking about the guy that is the preseason college

942
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 1: basketball Player of the Year and the best point guard

943
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 1: in college basketball, I believe personally the best player in

944
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 1: college basketball.

945
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 3: It is a note.

946
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 1: Brian Nubert now joining us on the Java House, Peel

947
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: and Port Guestla, did you see my shirt today?

948
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 6: Eddie?

949
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 3: We're going at Did you see my shirt?

950
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 4: I did?

951
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: I've got them the Java House shirt Baby. Java House

952
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 1: yesterday sent me. They sent you some pods. I'll get

953
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: them to you, Eddie, and they sent me a shirt

954
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:36,879
Speaker 1: as well. Java House, Peel and Poor. Of course, Jake,

955
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: twenty five the discount code for twenty five percent off.

956
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 4: They have multiple locations in Lafayette.

957
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: That's where we find Brian Nubert now from Golden Black,

958
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: to talk about last night.

959
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 3: Brian, how are you happy holidays?

960
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 6: Happy holidays to you as well, Jake.

961
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 10: It's kind of unfair that you put me on the

962
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 10: phone and then talk about your shirt. I'd probably have

963
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 10: a take on it if I could see it.

964
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 4: Let me tell you s felt and sexy.

965
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 3: How's that? Brian? Is that sound good? That sound good?

966
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:03,760
Speaker 6: Love, that's kind of a given.

967
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you, Brian. It's Brian. I don't know

968
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: if you know this about it. This Java House shirt

969
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: they gave me, and Java House is such a clean

970
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 1: looking brand anyway, but it's an all black T shirt

971
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:16,280
Speaker 1: and black is a slimming feature.

972
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 3: It's a slimming color, so it looks good, just so

973
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 3: you know, not for all of us.

974
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to golden black obviously, so you

975
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,959
Speaker 1: got half of it there. Let's get to the first

976
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,240
Speaker 1: thing that I just talked about in Braden Smith looked

977
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,760
Speaker 1: like this might have been one where you got scared

978
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: at first and then you find out that it was

979
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 1: not a significant injury. But then again sometimes a day

980
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 1: later things can creep up and you can find out

981
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 1: that there is still pain there.

982
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 3: Where do we stand now or what do we know?

983
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 10: I don't have any update today yet. All Matt Paynter

984
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 10: could say after the game yesterday was came back and played,

985
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 10: which is true, and he played very well, So that

986
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 10: would seem to rule out anything really significant. I would think,

987
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 10: going back to our photos after the game last night,

988
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 10: I thought I saw some tape on a finger, so

989
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 10: I wonder if he didn't just jam a finger or

990
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 10: something like that. They said it was a sprain in

991
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 10: his hand, but I can't really confirm that. I can't

992
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 10: really confirm anything, so I don't know. Obviously, Perdue will

993
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 10: be watching that closely because he's obviously critically important to them.

994
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 3: Okay, let's get to Brian.

995
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: You know, I thought yesterday and let's go back to

996
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 1: Iowa State actually, because we haven't had a chance to

997
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: talk since then. And I think Iowa State's really good, right,

998
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 1: But that was one of those games that just from

999
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: the beginning you could tell it just wasn't there that day. Now,

1000
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: I don't think for Purdue unless that becomes a habit,

1001
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: that it's a real concern because they've got so many

1002
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: good wins and they have so many opportunities for good

1003
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 1: wins over the course of the Big Ten season. But

1004
00:51:56,000 --> 00:52:00,040
Speaker 1: did Iowa State, I'll use air quotes here expose anything

1005
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: about Purdue. What did Iowa State do that made Purdue vulnerable?

1006
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,720
Speaker 10: Well, I think the shots Purdue needed to make against

1007
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 10: Iowa State to start the game, they just didn't, which

1008
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 10: is disconcerting because you're playing at home. We are a

1009
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 10: great three point shooting team. You had to make threes

1010
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 10: to take some of the heat off of Braden Smith

1011
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 10: and Trey Cooff Morin and there in their high pick

1012
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 10: and roll stuff, and they just didn't. Now, shooting can

1013
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 10: be obviously volatile, but Matt Painter would be the first

1014
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 10: to tell you, and Purdue's done this before at times

1015
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 10: this season, is when they're not making three pointers, is

1016
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 10: go find other ways to win. And that's kind of

1017
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 10: what wasn't there in the second half and just kind

1018
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 10: of a shocking, shockingly one sided a deal after halftime.

1019
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,439
Speaker 10: You just don't expect to see that to happen to Purdue. Ever,

1020
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 10: you expect the exact opposite. You expect to see what

1021
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 10: Purdue did in Minnesota in the second half last night.

1022
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 10: Two very different games, obviously, but it was just a

1023
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 10: very jarring kind of feeling. You expect Produe to respond

1024
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 10: competitively in a much different way than they did against

1025
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 10: Iowa State in the second half after simply not making threes. Now,

1026
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 10: Ioways State, it's a great team, so that's that's a.

1027
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 6: Big part of it.

1028
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,399
Speaker 10: The part of the three point shooting might have been

1029
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 10: them playing defense so well that perhaps there was a

1030
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 10: panic going through the whole offense and perhaps produced the

1031
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 10: poise it needed. I'm not a psychoanalyst. I couldn't tell

1032
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,359
Speaker 10: you what everybody was thinking in the moment, but had

1033
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 10: pretty just made a couple more threes early, which they

1034
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:38,320
Speaker 10: shoot a very high percent. John, you know, perhaps Iowa

1035
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,240
Speaker 10: State has to change things up a little bit, perhaps

1036
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 10: the game unfold a little bit differently. We'll never know,

1037
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 10: but the oversimplified answer is is shooting and then poise

1038
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 10: and then not letting the shooting problems affect your defensive effort.

1039
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 10: Things like that. That was the broader point I was

1040
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 10: trying to make. I just never got to Brian, what

1041
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 10: did you think Matt Painter's response was?

1042
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:04,879
Speaker 1: In other words, you know, sometimes coaches lose a game

1043
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: and you later find out that they're like, yeah, I

1044
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: wasn't that concerned about it because you know, we were

1045
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: working on this, or we wanted to do that, or

1046
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 1: you know. What was Matt Painter's overall I guess reaction

1047
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,479
Speaker 1: from that Iowa State game And what tweak, if any,

1048
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: do you think he did going into Minnesota.

1049
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:25,240
Speaker 6: Well, I'm not sure there was a tweak.

1050
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 10: I'd imagine his message was kind of the point I

1051
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 10: was just trying to make, and I talked myself in

1052
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 10: circles before I actually made it.

1053
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 3: I don't think, Brian.

1054
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,359
Speaker 4: Just so you know, I do that every day, right,

1055
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 4: That's what we do.

1056
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:39,760
Speaker 3: We talk in circle.

1057
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 6: You're on the radio. You get paid to do that.

1058
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: Okay, So you write in circles too, is what you're

1059
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:49,240
Speaker 1: gonna got anyway, So as you as you were, Yes.

1060
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 10: So Painters one of his his common messages is when

1061
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 10: you're not making shots, don't let that effect you effort defensively.

1062
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 10: Don't let that affect your attention span defensively. And I

1063
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 10: think Purdue just crumbled defensively in the second half, and

1064
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 10: he generally makes a correlation from one to the other.

1065
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 10: Sodue not making shots may or may not have affected

1066
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,839
Speaker 10: their attention to detail defensively, and that's where the game

1067
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 10: really went sideways on Perduit.

1068
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 6: Was they just couldn't stop.

1069
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 10: I was State in the second half, Iowash State was

1070
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 10: making horse shots and Produe just didn't respond. And if

1071
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 10: the offensive struggles led to the defensive struggles, then that

1072
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 10: that would be the heart of Painters message that was

1073
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,399
Speaker 10: probably communicated in no uncertain terms in the locker room

1074
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 10: after that game.

1075
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: When you look at Brian Nubert is my guest Java

1076
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: House peel and poor guest line Java house dot com

1077
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 1: by the way, the website. When you look Brian at

1078
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,320
Speaker 1: what Purdue has done to this point, I mean, obviously,

1079
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,240
Speaker 1: to win over Alabama extremely impressive.

1080
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:53,320
Speaker 3: I thought they were.

1081
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 1: I thought their performance against Texas Tech was as good

1082
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 1: as I've seen in quite some time. Then that Iowa

1083
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: State game disappointing, but you bounce back Minnesota. Is there

1084
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:06,919
Speaker 1: an aspect of this team that to this point you

1085
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 1: still feel uncertain about or do you have a really

1086
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:11,839
Speaker 1: good idea as to who and what they are?

1087
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:14,919
Speaker 6: I think you have a pretty good idea.

1088
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 10: I mean, they've been pretty consistent, They've proven themselves in

1089
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 10: a lot of cases prior to this season. I think

1090
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 10: the rebounding has been a big, a big revelation for Purdue.

1091
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 10: The run protection has been a revelation for Purdue. Their

1092
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 10: problems from last year were fixed by size. It's just

1093
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 10: college basketball is a funny game. Three point shooting is

1094
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 10: a funny, fickle sort of element of basketball. And you know,

1095
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 10: I think the uh, the Iowa State game had a

1096
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 10: lot to do with that, But you're also dealing with

1097
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 10: the most inconsistent, turbulent commodity on earth at the teenage male.

1098
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 10: And uh so, sometimes sometimes things that are going to

1099
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,839
Speaker 10: uh sometimes there's going to be inconsistency. And I think

1100
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 10: that you know, Purdue has experience, it's enough where you'd

1101
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,799
Speaker 10: expect them to be insulated from that sort of turbulence.

1102
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 10: But at the same time, is anybody ever really I'm

1103
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 10: sure Texas Texts did the same thing before they went

1104
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 10: into that Purdue game, that hey, you know, we have

1105
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 10: a lot of guys who I've played a lot of basketball,

1106
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 10: I've been through a lot of stuff, and that kind

1107
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 10: of thing can't happen to us, right, And then they

1108
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 10: got boat raced. So it's a funny game. That's what's

1109
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 10: so interesting got college basketball. You literally never know what's

1110
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 10: going to happen when you go to the game. And

1111
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 10: no one ever could have foreseen Iowa State coming and

1112
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 10: you know, Predue flipped against Minnesota the exact same thing

1113
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 10: the Minnesota that i Was State did to Purdue in

1114
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 10: the second half.

1115
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 1: You know, realistically, Brian, the turbulence and the non predictability

1116
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 1: and the all over the place of teenagers is not

1117
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 1: gender specific, right, isn't that like just kind of a

1118
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: generality of the of the age range? And I don't

1119
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 1: know about I was a train rat. But to your point,

1120
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 1: as a guy, I was a trained rite. At what

1121
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 1: age did you quit me in a train wreck? For me,

1122
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 1: it was like twenty nine. Was that supposed to have

1123
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:13,919
Speaker 1: happened by now? I'm still waiting. Yeah, probably, I asked

1124
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,959
Speaker 1: my wife that question. Like I noticed the other day

1125
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 1: to your point. To your point, the other day, I

1126
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: discovered that they now have a pizza that's made with cheese.

1127
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 1: It's as the crust, and I thought, okay, I'm in right,

1128
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 1: and that's probably catered to seventeen year olds, right.

1129
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 6: Yes, they wouldn't make that if the world was all women.

1130
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: That is indeed correct. Hey, before we let you go, Brian,

1131
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: Brian Nubert's my guest Golden Black. I do want to

1132
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: touch on football, the football side of things. And I

1133
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 1: realize that we are entrenched in basketball season, and I

1134
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: get it, but just kind of because there's been so

1135
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 1: much going on, and also because of the season Purdue

1136
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: had some of the transfer portal, some of that inconsistency

1137
00:58:56,560 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 1: has kind of flown off Radar four Purdue. Where do

1138
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 1: they stand just in terms of what they will have

1139
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 1: for next year and either a who they're able to

1140
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 1: go out and get or be any significant pieces they've lost.

1141
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm not as engaged in the day to day

1142
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 10: on football as I am the basketball. But the one

1143
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 10: guy who's gone in the portal who strikes me as

1144
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:25,479
Speaker 10: a guy they really would have liked to have kept,

1145
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 10: and it's conceivable I guess that they can still keep

1146
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 10: them is a guy named Chops Harkless. He's a big

1147
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 10: three thirty pound nose tackle defensively who I thought had

1148
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 10: a pretty good season for them was going to be

1149
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 10: a pretty good player. Whether they can get him back

1150
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 10: or not, I have no idea other than that they've

1151
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 10: lost a couple of guys I think who maybe could

1152
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 10: have helped them last season, but they you know, the

1153
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 10: other side of the coin here is that you didn't

1154
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 10: win a Big ten game again for the.

1155
00:59:57,840 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 6: Second year in a row.

1156
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 10: So we're there are any real difference makers that you

1157
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 10: really really had to keep. That's sure, there are some

1158
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 10: young guys that you would like to keep in your

1159
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 10: program to develop year after year, but it's not like

1160
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 10: there was anybody who you're going to lose and it's

1161
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 10: going to cost you wins next year. You have to

1162
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 10: you have to get a bunch of good players in

1163
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 10: the portal this year, and you have to keep them

1164
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 10: in your program year after year here and actually develop

1165
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 10: them and you know, things like that, and produce kind

1166
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 10: of in that in that trap that I think everybody

1167
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 10: gets into nowadays when you change coaches is that when

1168
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 10: you take the job, you lose the roster. You replace

1169
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 10: the roster with a ton of short term guys, and

1170
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 10: then those short term guys are gone before you know it,

1171
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:46,439
Speaker 10: and then you got to replace them with more short

1172
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 10: term guys and you're in this never ending cycle. That's

1173
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 10: kind of where Indiana basketball is, is that you're going

1174
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 10: to be replacing these one year transfers every year. What

1175
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 10: you have to do is you get your high school

1176
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 10: recruiting to the point where you're getting good enough players,

1177
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 10: but then you're keeping them. They're getting better, they're understanding

1178
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,919
Speaker 10: what your program's all about, they're understanding your schemes things

1179
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 10: like that, and then you can actually plug guys in

1180
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 10: and get old instead of just kind of putting a

1181
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 10: new code of paint on it every year. You know what,

1182
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 10: Brian New's got money, but they just have to spend it.

1183
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 6: Right.

1184
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 4: You raise an interesting point, and let me introduce this

1185
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 4: to you.

1186
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 1: I brought it up yesterday a little bit Brian Kneubert

1187
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 1: my guest job House peeling poor guest lines with Golden Black.

1188
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 1: I mentioned this yesterday with college basketball, and Purdue is

1189
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 1: the outlier here of what I'm about to say.

1190
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 3: Okay, take Indiana.

1191
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 1: I think Indiana's got a pretty good roster, especially considering

1192
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 1: what Darren devrees.

1193
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 3: You know, he gets the job kind of late.

1194
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 1: He's got to put together a team that they obviously

1195
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 1: had a mass exodus, and they've done a pretty good

1196
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 1: job of getting guys to play. You would think that

1197
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 1: those guys have played with each other longer than eight

1198
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 1: months or whatever it's been. But as college football, Brian,

1199
01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 1: and again, Purdue's the outlier of what I'm about to say.

1200
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 1: So it might be hard for you because you are

1201
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 1: seeing the anomaly here. But when you look at the Kansas'

1202
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 1: is the Kentucky's, the North Carolinas, the Indiana's, you know,

1203
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 1: the blue blood historic rabid programs. As most schools have

1204
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 1: become hyper focused on the money and the fanaticism of

1205
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 1: the football side of things. There are those that still

1206
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 1: basketball is the bigger sell. And yet I'm curious, do

1207
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 1: you think nationally speaking, because I do think this, but

1208
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 1: I want to know if you.

1209
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 3: Disagree with me.

1210
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 1: Nationally speaking, I think college basketball is in a much

1211
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 1: more tenuous situation in terms of between the transfer portal,

1212
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 1: the one and done's, and also the transfer portal at

1213
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 1: the high school level now of kids going away to

1214
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 1: academies and getting away from their home area and people

1215
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 1: not seeing them as seniors in high school and et cetera,

1216
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 1: and the non familiarity with roster is starting to hurt

1217
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 1: the over all interest in college basketball.

1218
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 3: Am I wrong?

1219
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 10: I think that is probably true, and it'll probably happen

1220
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 10: more over time at certain places.

1221
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 6: I think there are places.

1222
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 10: Like the ones you mentioned where you know, the program

1223
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 10: has always been bigger than the individuals, and at Kansas

1224
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 10: and you know, at Indiana, the faces have always kind

1225
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 10: of come and gone, but it's been the coaches and

1226
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 10: the institutions that have always been part of the culture

1227
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:29,439
Speaker 10: and things like that.

1228
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 6: I think you know that there.

1229
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 10: Are some rare places like Purdue, where they're basketball crazy.

1230
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 10: They get freshmen in they keep those guys year to year.

1231
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 10: People get attached to the freshmen, watch them grow, really

1232
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 10: connect with the team over a long period of time.

1233
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 10: And that's the part of it where you know Purdue

1234
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 10: is going to keep trying to do it that way.

1235
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 10: We'll see over a very long period of time here

1236
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 10: how viable that ends up being. Markets trying to do

1237
01:03:56,360 --> 01:04:00,919
Speaker 10: the same thing right now and they're a disaster. So yeah,

1238
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 10: I mean, I think when all this stuff, when all

1239
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 10: of the transfer reform took hold, I think that was

1240
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 10: a lot of people's big concern was that culturally fans

1241
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:13,439
Speaker 10: were going to feel less connected to their teams. There

1242
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 10: might be a measure of resentment might not be the

1243
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 10: right word, but the fact that they're getting paid might

1244
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 10: change things in terms of how their fans perceive them.

1245
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 10: Even though if fans knew the whole deal about college

1246
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 10: basketball for the history of time, they would not like

1247
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 10: what they saw if players making money offends them.

1248
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 3: But I think that some start right.

1249
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 10: There are definitely some existential crises you know here in

1250
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 10: college basketball in terms of rabid fan bases, connections to

1251
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 10: their teams that are are at play. Whether or not

1252
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 10: that's really taking hold right now, and I think the

1253
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 10: TV money and the attendance numbers would probably tell you different.

1254
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 10: But I think that over time it is very possible, yeah,

1255
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 10: that there could be some erosion between the communities and

1256
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 10: the college programs.

1257
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 6: They've always invested so much in.

1258
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 1: Up next for the Boilers Marquette that is going to

1259
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 1: be on Saturday, two o'clock tip, and then it is

1260
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 1: a week off before Auburn is on the schedule. Both

1261
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 1: those games, by the way, on Peacock Brian Nubert will

1262
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 1: have it all covered.

1263
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 3: Brian. It is always a pleasure, man.

1264
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 1: And just remember the more of the cheese at pizza

1265
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 1: you eat, so long as you wear a black T shirt,

1266
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 1: nobody notices, right, gotcha, Thanks Jick, I appreciate it. Brian

1267
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 1: Nubert joining us on the Java House Peel and poor

1268
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,919
Speaker 1: guest line, Eddie, do you find it? Let me ask

1269
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 1: you this because I think I catch again to use

1270
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 1: a ted Lasso term here, I've caught a little guff

1271
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 1: over this. People think it's weird, and I get it.

1272
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 1: I get it. It's an eccentricity about me. It's an

1273
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:58,440
Speaker 1: idiosyncrasy about me. But and somebody on social media was like,

1274
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 1: what in the world like they and I'm maybe I'm

1275
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 1: setting myself up for mockery.

1276
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 4: Is it?

1277
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 1: Does it make me weird that during the holidays be

1278
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 1: it Keystone now obviously a circle Center is not the

1279
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 1: case anymore, Hamilton Town Center, you know, out in Plainfield,

1280
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 1: whatever it might be. I enjoy walking around for like

1281
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 1: forty five minutes. I enjoy Christmas shopping by going into

1282
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 1: a store, dealing with an employee, picking out an item,

1283
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:37,960
Speaker 1: looking for what it is that is on my family's

1284
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:41,800
Speaker 1: Christmas list or whatever, Hearing the music overhead, seeing people

1285
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 1: that are scurrying in and it's not like it used

1286
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 1: to be.

1287
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 4: I get it, but I love it.

1288
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 1: It puts me in the Christmas mood and it sends

1289
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 1: me back to the time when as a kid, Christmas

1290
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 1: was a magical period for me. And it still allows

1291
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 1: me to feel a lot of that. And does that

1292
01:06:56,400 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 1: make me am I literally ninety five years old old

1293
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 1: and saying that, oh yeah, absolutely, what you do your

1294
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 1: how many people do you buy for when you Christmas shop?

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01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 3: You have so I will buy for my brother and

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01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 3: my sister, my mom, my dad. I think I asked,

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01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 3: that's right. So in Olivia, Okay, my significant other.

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01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 1: You do what percent of that by just like two

1299
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 1: clicks of a button and then waiting at the mailbox.

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01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 3: Most of it?

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01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, most of it. But I don't wait by the

1302
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 2: mailbox seat because I don't want her to see because

1303
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 2: she's at home during the day. I don't want her

1304
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 2: to see what I'm getting. Worse, so I haven't shipped

1305
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 2: to my parents house.

1306
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 1: Okay, and then your parents that you have shipped your Okay,

1307
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:35,920
Speaker 1: that works out. Well, that's not bad. Yeah, it's a

1308
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 1: nice trading system. Okay, But then your parents get to

1309
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 1: see what you get her. Well, yeah, what if it's

1310
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 1: something tawdry?

1311
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know.

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01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:47,479
Speaker 1: What if it's something of the lesser scruples, if you will,

1313
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 1: that is that a bother?

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01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 3: Well? See, I don't buy that kind of stuff for her.

1315
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 2: Jake, So okay, oh really okay, Well I let her

1316
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 2: handle all that.

1317
01:07:57,240 --> 01:08:00,200
Speaker 1: Oh really okay, she just goes out and does our

1318
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 1: own shopping.

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01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 8: Eh.

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01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 1: All right, Well, I think we know what Eddie's getting

1321
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 1: for Christmas? How about that I told you about the time.

1322
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 1: Now I'm not saying any names. I'm not saying any names,

1323
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 1: but one of my very best friends in the world,

1324
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:16,559
Speaker 1: when we were in our late twenties. We back when

1325
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 1: everyone Chris, you know, before online stuff. So we go

1326
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:21,639
Speaker 1: out and we're Christmas shopping together and we go into

1327
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 1: Victoria's Secret and my buddy was dating two different girls. Now,

1328
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 1: I mean neither one was you know, he was dating

1329
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:30,920
Speaker 1: like you know, you're you're dating people, right, I mean

1330
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 1: we were like, I don't know.

1331
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 4: He was probably thirty at the time.

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01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 1: So we go into Victoria's Secret where the he's I'm

1333
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:41,640
Speaker 1: buying like a strawberry cream, you know, body lotion for

1334
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:42,719
Speaker 1: the girl I'm dating or whatever.

1335
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 3: And he's buying.

1336
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 1: Two different you know, a risque outfits from Victoria's Secret.

1337
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:50,720
Speaker 1: And he gets up to the register and literally we

1338
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 1: are the only two males in the entire establishment, okay,

1339
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:54,559
Speaker 1: and it's and it's bonkers.

1340
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 3: It's packed. It's all these women in there. It's packed.

1341
01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 1: And so he gets up to the register and the

1342
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:01,639
Speaker 1: woman says, and I quote, would you like a gift

1343
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 1: box for these? And he says, I need two of

1344
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:06,600
Speaker 1: them because they're going to two different people. And he

1345
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 1: said it just as there was a rest or a

1346
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 1: store wide lull in conversation, and literally we've narrowly got

1347
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:17,599
Speaker 1: out with our lives. It was Katie bar the door,

1348
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 1: absolute mayhem, fury of and I was guilt by association.

1349
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 3: I was just there. I'm just standing there. I'm like,

1350
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:26,839
Speaker 3: I didn't do anything. I didn't do anything.

1351
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:31,720
Speaker 1: There is some news when it comes to the Pacers

1352
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 1: and their roster, and I think there's news when it

1353
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 1: comes to the Colts and their roster. I'll explain both

1354
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 1: of the next but before I do so, I want

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01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 1: to talk to you about real quick Chicago'sizza. Chicago's Pizza

1356
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:47,800
Speaker 1: with eighteen Central Indiana locations, they have twenty five statewide.

1357
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 4: You've still got if you were near it.

1358
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 1: If you are listening right now and you look up

1359
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:52,720
Speaker 1: and you see the sign for Chicago's Pizza, you still

1360
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:55,639
Speaker 1: got time to get in for their lunch bufet, which

1361
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:58,519
Speaker 1: is fabulous eleven until one point thirty every single day.

1362
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:02,800
Speaker 1: I'm talking about fresh, hot pizza, deep dish or traditional

1363
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:05,600
Speaker 1: salad bar, all the fixings, all the dressings, and a

1364
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 1: soft drink for just thirteen dollars. That includes breadsticks and

1365
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 1: the dessert pizza just thirteen dollars out the door. You

1366
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:15,919
Speaker 1: cannot beat it. But you also can't beat this proposition.

1367
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 1: I was just talking earlier about businesses and the Christmas spirit,

1368
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 1: what about businesses that are helping out those that are

1369
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:24,840
Speaker 1: less fortunate throughout Christmas. Chicago's Pizza is doing exactly that

1370
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:28,560
Speaker 1: between now and Christmas with Shop with a Cop programs

1371
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 1: and different donations with their gift card programs at Chicago's

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01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 1: Pizza and their eighteen Central Indiana locations, Chicago's Pizza has

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01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:38,680
Speaker 1: the family meal deal two pizzas medium, top, medium, one

1374
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 1: topping pizzas just twenty five dollars. That does include breadsticks.

1375
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:44,720
Speaker 1: And I love Chicago's Pizza because it's family owned and

1376
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 1: it's right here in Central Indiana where it's based. Chicago's

1377
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 1: Pizza eighteen Central Indiana locations twenty five state wide. Find

1378
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:54,800
Speaker 1: one near you at Chicago's Pizza dot com. If you

1379
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 1: are just joining us on the program today, Ben, thank you.

1380
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:03,240
Speaker 1: It might be that you're at the old building right

1381
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 1: now that we're in a new building. And again I

1382
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:09,480
Speaker 1: mentioned off the top of the show, I totally understand

1383
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:11,840
Speaker 1: and respect that to the listener, it's like, we're still

1384
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:13,680
Speaker 1: on ninety three five and one oh seven five are

1385
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:16,439
Speaker 1: friends at WIBC are still at ninety three point one?

1386
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 3: You know? B one of five.

1387
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 1: Everything's the same, but we are now within a new

1388
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 1: location just north of the Monument Circle location where we

1389
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 1: were previously, and it's been fun to kind of work

1390
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 1: through some things because whenever you move into and this

1391
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 1: studio is brand new, I mean brand new, it smells

1392
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:37,479
Speaker 1: like a new car in here.

1393
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:40,679
Speaker 3: It's wonderful. That's the best part about it. So smells

1394
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:46,479
Speaker 3: the carpet smells new. Everything's fresh, right. And I mentioned

1395
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:49,679
Speaker 3: when we began the show today in this Day number

1396
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:52,559
Speaker 3: one in the new studio that whenever you have things

1397
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:55,520
Speaker 3: that are new, whenever you have change, it becomes an adjustment.

1398
01:11:55,560 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 3: It can be a challenge. And that was the case.

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01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 1: We knew going into the year for the Pacers that

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01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 1: that's what they were and where they were in terms

1401
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:09,040
Speaker 1: of this season. We did not anticipate. Yes, we knew

1402
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 1: there was going to be changed for the Colts at

1403
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:16,559
Speaker 1: the quarterbacking position. Okay, that we knew, But what we

1404
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:19,600
Speaker 1: didn't know is that once they found that stability, we

1405
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 1: didn't know that they were going to get a seven

1406
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:24,080
Speaker 1: to one start. And then we didn't know that Daniel

1407
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 1: Jones would have the injuries and that now all of

1408
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 1: a sudden forty four year old Philip Rivers would be in.

1409
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:34,679
Speaker 1: We didn't know those things. And for the Colts, it's

1410
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 1: not about what's new, it's about what's old. It's about

1411
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 1: what's really old. But for the Pacers it is a

1412
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 1: little bit about what's new. And that's because the Pacers

1413
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:50,360
Speaker 1: now have made an announcement today in terms of their roster.

1414
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 1: This is not the first guy this has happened to

1415
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 1: this year, and if precedent. The word I always use

1416
01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 1: is any indication. It doesn't mean that it is a

1417
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 1: word of finale. But what we know is that they

1418
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 1: have added a player on the roster that had like

1419
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:12,960
Speaker 1: kind of a tryout. And Eddie, you tell me, because

1420
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 1: we talked about this yesterday and I always get confused.

1421
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:21,519
Speaker 1: You can sign a player to a ten day contract, right, yes,

1422
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:24,680
Speaker 1: and you then have to you can sign them to

1423
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:26,760
Speaker 1: a maximum of three.

1424
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:28,280
Speaker 4: Ten day contracts. I believe is the case.

1425
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 1: Right Tony East will be able to answer a lot

1426
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 1: of this for us just about twenty minutes from now,

1427
01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 1: But I believe it is that you can have a

1428
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 1: guy on three ten day contracts and then after that

1429
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:40,800
Speaker 1: you got to figure out what's going on. Correct like

1430
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:42,800
Speaker 1: you can only go on so many dates before it's like, look,

1431
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 1: are we seeing other people or not?

1432
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, you're not.

1433
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:48,639
Speaker 1: Going to be asking for two gift receipts at Victoria Secrets.

1434
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 3: So where does it stand between you and Shannon?

1435
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:50,760
Speaker 6: Jake?

1436
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 1: Then, well, at this point where it stands with me

1437
01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 1: and Shannon is that we get two questions from everyone.

1438
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:04,800
Speaker 4: One, why are you not married? And then when are

1439
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:05,439
Speaker 4: you getting married?

1440
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:08,639
Speaker 1: And then in the same breath, people go, but you've

1441
01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:10,800
Speaker 1: been together twenty years and it seems to be working

1442
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 1: for you and I'm kind of envious of the way.

1443
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 3: It's worked out. That's kind of where it stands.

1444
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 4: But no question from both of our standpoints, Yes, indeed.

1445
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 1: Each other's person. And the Pacers have decided the difference

1446
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:26,840
Speaker 1: being in the NBA, when you decide that somebody is

1447
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:29,360
Speaker 1: your person, then you can get and say, you know what,

1448
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 1: the ten day contract gave us the ability to say,

1449
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 1: we're just dating people. But they have decided today with

1450
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:37,320
Speaker 1: Garrison Matthews, that they want to make this a commitment.

1451
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 3: Right, they were just friends with benefits, Jake, That's what

1452
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:42,639
Speaker 3: they were so boy, okay, that's right.

1453
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:47,280
Speaker 1: They were sending tudry gifts to other addresses.

1454
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:49,479
Speaker 4: Is that right? That's what they were doing.

1455
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:52,760
Speaker 1: Garrison Matthews has been signed by the Pacers on a

1456
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:56,639
Speaker 1: deal that will theoretically keep him for the year, and

1457
01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 1: where it goes beyond that, I don't know. But in

1458
01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:01,880
Speaker 1: order to make room for him, they had to make

1459
01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:04,719
Speaker 1: a roster move. And this is one of the things

1460
01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 1: that I was talking about at the beginning of the

1461
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 1: year when their roster was in flux. And you know what,

1462
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 1: do I call him empty calorie guys? Empty calorie guys

1463
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 1: that you're like, you know what, that guy looks like.

1464
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 1: He's a really good player, He's put in good minutes

1465
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:21,519
Speaker 1: for them, He's done some good things for them. And

1466
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 1: then you realize as time goes along that there were

1467
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:27,840
Speaker 1: guys that were basically just logging minutes for you and

1468
01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 1: you weren't necessarily getting long term nutritional value out of them. Okay,

1469
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:36,759
Speaker 1: And I don't know with some guys on this roster,

1470
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:40,800
Speaker 1: there are probably some empty calorie guys. And Garrison Matthews

1471
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 1: came in. He is you know, he played at Lipscomb

1472
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:48,680
Speaker 1: in college. He's had kind of a vagabond career. He's

1473
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 1: in his late twenties, but he is known as a

1474
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:54,160
Speaker 1: marksman shooter. I mean, that is his role. One of

1475
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 1: the things that I've noticed about him, Number one, he

1476
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:00,599
Speaker 1: did not shoot the ball well when they got him

1477
01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:03,880
Speaker 1: first couple of games, as a matter of fact, but

1478
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 1: what you could see he was not knocking down shots.

1479
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:10,040
Speaker 1: But it was kind of impressive how he could get

1480
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 1: his shot off because he doesn't need a lot of time,

1481
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:15,519
Speaker 1: especially coming off of curl. He is a quick trigger

1482
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:20,559
Speaker 1: like quick release guy. And he also is, like a

1483
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:23,920
Speaker 1: lot of shooters, can be a streak guy. In order

1484
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 1: to make room for him, they have waived Jeremiah Robinson Earl,

1485
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:31,800
Speaker 1: who I thought actually his again I thought played well

1486
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:37,719
Speaker 1: in his role, notably pretty good rebounder. But as Isaiah

1487
01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:40,640
Speaker 1: Jackson has started to come into form, you know, the

1488
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 1: minute distribution between Jay Huff and Jackson, maybe that necessity

1489
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:48,320
Speaker 1: wasn't is there. And Robinson Earl not a good mid

1490
01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 1: range shooter, not a good shooter at all really, And

1491
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:54,559
Speaker 1: so Matthews, even though he might be more of a

1492
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 1: specified one trick pony, I noticed even when he wasn't

1493
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 1: shooting the ball well that when Rick Carlile was on

1494
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:04,280
Speaker 1: the morning show on this radio station as he does

1495
01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:07,519
Speaker 1: each and every week, and was talking with you know,

1496
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:13,040
Speaker 1: with Kevin and James about Garrison Matthews. Initially than one

1497
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:15,800
Speaker 1: of the things. He was very high on him, and

1498
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:18,639
Speaker 1: he continued to kind of sing his praises and talk

1499
01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:21,400
Speaker 1: about what he can do and what they can get

1500
01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:23,680
Speaker 1: from him, even though he had not played well. And

1501
01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:27,280
Speaker 1: right then I thought to myself, I think he must

1502
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:31,200
Speaker 1: really see something here and Rick Carlile's done a really

1503
01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 1: good job with this roster. Are they going to be

1504
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 1: a playoff team this year? Probably not? Are they going

1505
01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:40,439
Speaker 1: to be a bottom three team?

1506
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:40,679
Speaker 3: Now?

1507
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 1: I think we can also say probably not. But what

1508
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:49,320
Speaker 1: they've done is they have taken kind of like the

1509
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:55,360
Speaker 1: Indiana football They've taken kind of this band of misfits.

1510
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 1: Not that they're misfits, but you get what I'm saying.

1511
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:01,760
Speaker 1: Garrison Matthews had no idea at the beginning of the

1512
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:03,559
Speaker 1: year that he was going to have Tony Bradley as

1513
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:07,200
Speaker 1: a teammate. Tony Bradley had no idea at the beginning

1514
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:09,200
Speaker 1: of the year that he was going to be taking

1515
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 1: a pass in practice from Ethan Thompson. Ethan Thompson never

1516
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:18,000
Speaker 1: in a million years probably imagined or guessed that he

1517
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 1: was going to be dishing the ball over to Johnny

1518
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:25,680
Speaker 1: Furfey and etc. But they have kind of found their

1519
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 1: footing here In terms of what you are seeing is

1520
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:33,360
Speaker 1: minute wise, they do get worn down because you just

1521
01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:36,800
Speaker 1: don't have that same level of depth like you had

1522
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:39,720
Speaker 1: that became their calling card a year ago. But I

1523
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:43,240
Speaker 1: think Carlisle's done a masterful job with this group of

1524
01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 1: figuring out and tweaking the way they need to play

1525
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:50,400
Speaker 1: and actually playing competitively. Oftentimes they just kind of run

1526
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:53,240
Speaker 1: out of gas in terms of their rotation. They are

1527
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 1: having done to them what they did to teams a

1528
01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 1: year ago, where a year ago they were running so

1529
01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 1: fast and so at pace and doing platoon almost like

1530
01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:03,639
Speaker 1: system that by the last seven minutes of a game

1531
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:07,599
Speaker 1: they were never out of it, and the kind of

1532
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 1: having that done to them this year where they're having

1533
01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 1: to with their they don't have necessarily a platoon type

1534
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:16,800
Speaker 1: system because I think they're still kind of figuring out combinations.

1535
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:22,840
Speaker 1: But Garrison Matthews today signing Robinson Earl out from the

1536
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:27,839
Speaker 1: Colts standpoint talked about it earlier. Is there a change

1537
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:31,840
Speaker 1: that took place that might be positive towards their outlook

1538
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:36,880
Speaker 1: from a roster standpoint moving forward, and oddly enough, did

1539
01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:39,760
Speaker 1: the Colts maybe get a little bit of an assist

1540
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:44,360
Speaker 1: in finding a positive in the negative. I'll explain what

1541
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 1: I'm talking about on the other side, and Tony East

1542
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:50,240
Speaker 1: joining us in just under twenty I feel like this

1543
01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:51,519
Speaker 1: means Don Fisher's coming on.

1544
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:54,719
Speaker 3: I'm glad you recognized that, Jake.

1545
01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm very keen of my surroundings and aware of things.

1546
01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 1: By the way, I'd like to thank Mackenzie Newman as

1547
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:07,920
Speaker 1: well as Wes Everheart. They sent over a little bit

1548
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:13,120
Speaker 1: of a Java House swag, including a nice Querry and

1549
01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:18,200
Speaker 1: Company mug Tumblr Tumblr Yeah to to enjoy my Java

1550
01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:20,920
Speaker 1: House out of and then this fabulous T shirt, which

1551
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:23,439
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not me that makes the T shirt

1552
01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:23,840
Speaker 1: look good.

1553
01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:25,800
Speaker 3: The T shirt makes me look good.

1554
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:28,839
Speaker 4: Right, I'm well aware. I'm well aware.

1555
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:34,160
Speaker 1: There has been plenty of talk and there will continue

1556
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:37,280
Speaker 1: to be plenty of talk about Philip Rivers and this,

1557
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:43,120
Speaker 1: if you want to call it, experiment, This experiment is

1558
01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:50,439
Speaker 1: going to be fascinating to watch. And I'm looking right

1559
01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:53,640
Speaker 1: here in the camera at this in this brand new,

1560
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:56,719
Speaker 1: spacious studio I'm going to look right at the camera

1561
01:20:57,160 --> 01:21:00,080
Speaker 1: for those of you that can see me, and by

1562
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 1: the way, you might notice if you are seeing me

1563
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 1: right now, this studio is beautiful and the layout of

1564
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:09,600
Speaker 1: the engineers did a fabulous job and moving us in

1565
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:12,559
Speaker 1: here Nik Lopez and his group and getting us primed

1566
01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:15,120
Speaker 1: and ready, and they deserve all the credit in the world.

1567
01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:17,400
Speaker 1: And I know that that's an esoteric shout out, if

1568
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:21,240
Speaker 1: you will, but nonetheless, when you are moving a number

1569
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:24,000
Speaker 1: of radio stations from one facility to the next and

1570
01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:27,040
Speaker 1: getting it prepared, it takes a team, takes a village

1571
01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:30,479
Speaker 1: to do that, and everybody's teamworking doing that and getting

1572
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:34,800
Speaker 1: us prepared and ready to go here is greatly appreciated,

1573
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:37,320
Speaker 1: and it has not been an easy task. I'm certain

1574
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:39,280
Speaker 1: I know how to do one thing and one thing only,

1575
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:42,439
Speaker 1: and that is push a button that says on and talk.

1576
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:44,400
Speaker 3: That's it. So two things, those are the only two

1577
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:45,200
Speaker 3: things I know how to do.

1578
01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:48,719
Speaker 1: So the intellectual capability of how these folks are able

1579
01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 1: to do this, it is remarkable and it is greatly

1580
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:54,640
Speaker 1: greatly appreciated. But I'm going to look right here at

1581
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:56,439
Speaker 1: this camera right now and say this and make this

1582
01:21:56,520 --> 01:22:00,880
Speaker 1: declaration and this prognostication, even though I talked about the

1583
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:03,720
Speaker 1: fact that when it comes to meteorology, I wouldn't want

1584
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:05,400
Speaker 1: to do that job because it's hard to get it

1585
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:07,240
Speaker 1: right all the time. But I think this one, I'm

1586
01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:11,599
Speaker 1: going to be right. Philip Rivers will start the game

1587
01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:13,160
Speaker 1: on Sunday for the Indianapolis Colts.

1588
01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:14,479
Speaker 3: I'm not giving you a breaking news.

1589
01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 1: I think most people know that that's probably the reality.

1590
01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:23,600
Speaker 2: Yes, Eddie, Yeah, breaking news I think has a proclamation

1591
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:25,680
Speaker 2: that Philip Rivers will be starting on Sunday for the

1592
01:22:25,720 --> 01:22:26,519
Speaker 2: Indianapolis Colts.

1593
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:29,240
Speaker 1: Thank you, Eddie Garrison, much appreciated. Yes, indeed, I think

1594
01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:31,680
Speaker 1: he will. And it's going to go one of two

1595
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 1: ways they are bringing in And I know Jeff called

1596
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:40,040
Speaker 1: earlier and said, this is an embarrassment, this is a charade,

1597
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:43,479
Speaker 1: this is a side show, this is a clown show.

1598
01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:46,880
Speaker 1: I don't think it's any of those things. I honestly

1599
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:52,120
Speaker 1: believe what this is is an organization with Chris Ballard

1600
01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:57,680
Speaker 1: and Shansteichen that looked over everything and all of the

1601
01:22:57,760 --> 01:23:02,000
Speaker 1: possibilities and all of the scenarios and said, what gives

1602
01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:05,920
Speaker 1: us the best chance to still get into the playoffs.

1603
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:10,320
Speaker 1: And one thing that I've learned in covering the National

1604
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:17,559
Speaker 1: Football League, from Tony Dungee to Jim Mora to Frank

1605
01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:20,120
Speaker 1: Reich to Mike Martz when I was in Saint Louis

1606
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:24,360
Speaker 1: to Dick for Meal, one thing that virtually every coach

1607
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:28,040
Speaker 1: had in common was they would always talk about the playoffs,

1608
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:30,760
Speaker 1: but they always called it the tournament. Coaches in the

1609
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:35,840
Speaker 1: NFL oddly would call it the tournament, but to them,

1610
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:40,519
Speaker 1: once you got into the tournament, to use their term,

1611
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:43,759
Speaker 1: all bets were off and it was a brand new season.

1612
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 1: And what happened before that, you kind of had to

1613
01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:49,000
Speaker 1: throw out the window and you were all fighting for

1614
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:51,599
Speaker 1: the same goal, the same spot, which was a Super Bowl,

1615
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:58,479
Speaker 1: and I think the Colts got themselves in position. The

1616
01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 1: Colts went out and they said, the goal of every

1617
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:08,160
Speaker 1: team is to drive to the Pacific Ocean, and they

1618
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:10,760
Speaker 1: all have to start on the East coast. So the

1619
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:14,840
Speaker 1: Colts said, Okay, we thought we had We got a

1620
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:17,360
Speaker 1: Lamborghini and it was brand new, it still had the

1621
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 1: sticker on it. But they told us when we got

1622
01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:26,720
Speaker 1: the Lamborghini that they weren't certain because of the some

1623
01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:28,640
Speaker 1: of the issues they had in the shipping of it,

1624
01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:30,840
Speaker 1: whether or not it would ever run at one hundred percent.

1625
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:35,120
Speaker 1: And they tried out this Lamborghini named Anthony Richardson, and

1626
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:38,519
Speaker 1: it's a beautiful looking car, and in space, every once

1627
01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:40,479
Speaker 1: in a while it would just take off and it

1628
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:43,720
Speaker 1: was like, whoa, this thing's awesome. But they just found there, like,

1629
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:45,720
Speaker 1: but when we get in traffic, this thing's terrible.

1630
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:48,920
Speaker 3: Awesome, awesome, that's right all right now.

1631
01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:52,920
Speaker 1: And at times it ended up looking like, you know,

1632
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:54,880
Speaker 1: the car after Spacoli had it right, just be glad

1633
01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:56,000
Speaker 1: to have had fast reflexes.

1634
01:24:56,320 --> 01:24:58,439
Speaker 3: And so then fix it.

1635
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 1: They said, well that's they said, you know what, our

1636
01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:07,120
Speaker 1: Lamborghini needs something to sit in the garage with and

1637
01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:09,760
Speaker 1: look over and realize that there's something else there. So

1638
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:14,520
Speaker 1: they went out and they bought a really nice Lexus

1639
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:18,720
Speaker 1: with forty thousand miles on it. And the guy that

1640
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:21,960
Speaker 1: was selling them the Lexus, the New York Giants basically said, look,

1641
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:24,240
Speaker 1: this thing sputters a lot, and they said, well, I

1642
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:27,840
Speaker 1: can fix it. The old man's a television repairman. And

1643
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:31,639
Speaker 1: in fact, that Lexus was humming along and the Colts

1644
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:35,360
Speaker 1: got to literally, I mean, they were halfway through Colorado

1645
01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:37,920
Speaker 1: on their drive to the Pacific Ocean, and they looked

1646
01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:41,320
Speaker 1: around and they're like, there's very little traffic around us,

1647
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:51,800
Speaker 1: and then lo and behold the Lexus snapped a bearing rod.

1648
01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:55,400
Speaker 1: And so now you're in the situation where I think

1649
01:25:55,439 --> 01:25:58,760
Speaker 1: they looked around and simply said, what gives us the

1650
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:01,719
Speaker 1: best chance to still make it to the Pacific Ocean.

1651
01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:07,280
Speaker 1: And yes, they could have gone their Lamborghini. Unfortunately, their

1652
01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:11,600
Speaker 1: Lamborghini had a really freak situation where something dropped in

1653
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:13,080
Speaker 1: the garage and landed on top of it.

1654
01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:14,479
Speaker 3: It wasn't even the Lamborghini's fault.

1655
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:20,040
Speaker 1: But now it's unavailable and they have, you know, I mean,

1656
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:23,000
Speaker 1: they've got a Honda Civic that they got new, and

1657
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:26,800
Speaker 1: it's the bare bones Honda Civic and it's okay. But

1658
01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 1: they looked at it and they said, what gives us

1659
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:33,400
Speaker 1: the best chance? And I think realistically Chris Ballard and

1660
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:35,679
Speaker 1: Shanstyke and looked at it and said, Philip Rivers gives

1661
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:40,160
Speaker 1: us the best chance to complete our drive, a better

1662
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:43,240
Speaker 1: option than Riiley Leonard. It has higher risk for certain,

1663
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:46,120
Speaker 1: and we don't know exactly how this is going to go.

1664
01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:47,840
Speaker 1: No one knows how this is going to go and

1665
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:50,000
Speaker 1: it's going to go one of two ways. He's either

1666
01:26:50,040 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 1: going to come out and they're going to use a

1667
01:26:52,479 --> 01:26:56,160
Speaker 1: mixed offense of Jonathan Taylor and Tyler Warren probably a lot,

1668
01:26:56,240 --> 01:27:01,519
Speaker 1: maybe some Michael Pittman as well, and used the steady hand,

1669
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:04,080
Speaker 1: and Philip Rivers is going to look like Peyton Manning

1670
01:27:04,160 --> 01:27:07,120
Speaker 1: early games in Denver of just kind of hand off

1671
01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 1: and game manage. Or he's going to come out and

1672
01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:15,720
Speaker 1: it's going to be Kerry Collins for the Colts disaster

1673
01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:18,280
Speaker 1: and they're going to go, Okay, that just did not work.

1674
01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:23,080
Speaker 1: But that, realistically, I think is where they see it

1675
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:26,519
Speaker 1: as this is the guy right now that gives us

1676
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:27,240
Speaker 1: the best chance.

1677
01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:28,000
Speaker 6: Now.

1678
01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:30,040
Speaker 3: The other silver lining in all of this.

1679
01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:36,720
Speaker 1: A positive, if you will, if I'm being an optimist

1680
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:41,280
Speaker 1: going into the off season, even if Daniel Jones had

1681
01:27:41,320 --> 01:27:45,880
Speaker 1: never gotten hurt, if Daniel Jones was still playing at

1682
01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:48,880
Speaker 1: a high level, had never had either leg injury, and

1683
01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:51,280
Speaker 1: the Colts, let's say, instead of eight and five, were

1684
01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:53,960
Speaker 1: right now sitting at ten and three, whatever it might be.

1685
01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:58,360
Speaker 1: You knew then that Daniel Jones was your quarterback moving forward.

1686
01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:00,680
Speaker 1: You knew that when they trade not one, but two

1687
01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:04,080
Speaker 1: first rounders for Sauce Gardner. We can argue till the

1688
01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:06,240
Speaker 1: cows come home whether or not that was the right move.

1689
01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:10,200
Speaker 1: But you knew that they believed in Daniel Jones. Daniel Jones.

1690
01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:13,439
Speaker 1: When you look at this year's list, Daniel Jones right

1691
01:28:13,479 --> 01:28:19,919
Speaker 1: now with two bad wheels, might still be the best

1692
01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:24,080
Speaker 1: free agent option at quarterback available. What else is out there?

1693
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:29,400
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, the drama and the consistent like whatever of

1694
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:33,439
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Russell Wilson good guy, but I mean you

1695
01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:35,680
Speaker 1: could tell, like three years ago his arm was cooked.

1696
01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:39,439
Speaker 3: Can he Pickett widow hands?

1697
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:43,040
Speaker 1: I mean, there are not great Marcus Mariota who's going

1698
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:44,960
Speaker 1: to start now and finish the year for Washington as

1699
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:48,320
Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels is out. Those are your best options. So

1700
01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:51,360
Speaker 1: if they thought Daniel Jones was the guy they needed

1701
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:53,639
Speaker 1: to resign at the end of this year, his price

1702
01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:56,479
Speaker 1: tag was going to be astronomical because he's the best

1703
01:28:56,600 --> 01:28:59,679
Speaker 1: league option, and he's their best option, and right now

1704
01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:03,920
Speaker 1: he's still their best option. To sign him. Let him

1705
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:07,600
Speaker 1: work with your team. He knows the offense, he knows that.

1706
01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:10,800
Speaker 1: He then can come into a situation where if he's

1707
01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 1: worried about his rehabilitation. At least he knows the system.

1708
01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:15,720
Speaker 1: And the only other team that that would be the

1709
01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:18,680
Speaker 1: case for would be probably Minnesota, who might also be

1710
01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:21,280
Speaker 1: looking again to go back to that well. But now

1711
01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:23,680
Speaker 1: you're just fighting it out with one team instead of

1712
01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:27,040
Speaker 1: like twenty and as the culture looking at Alec Pierce

1713
01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:30,679
Speaker 1: and other players, if they in fact a year from now,

1714
01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:35,200
Speaker 1: are wanting to reacclimate Daniel Jones back into things, hope

1715
01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:37,800
Speaker 1: he gets back to his form and can play. Beyond that,

1716
01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:42,759
Speaker 1: the price of doing that business is now a small

1717
01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:46,400
Speaker 1: percentage of what it would have been under the other circumstances,

1718
01:29:46,640 --> 01:29:49,720
Speaker 1: notably because for every team in the league there just

1719
01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:54,960
Speaker 1: weren't other options. Okay, I talked about ten day contracts, pacers,

1720
01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:57,719
Speaker 1: one year deals, et cetera. Help us break it all down,

1721
01:29:57,800 --> 01:30:01,679
Speaker 1: Tony East other side, I'm actually going to go watch

1722
01:30:01,680 --> 01:30:03,280
Speaker 1: a little college basketball tonight.

1723
01:30:05,720 --> 01:30:09,200
Speaker 3: Where are you going? Are you Indy taking on Doug

1724
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:12,680
Speaker 3: Gottlieb's Green Bay team in the Jungle.

1725
01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:18,000
Speaker 4: City edition jerseys for the Jaguars tonight?

1726
01:30:18,040 --> 01:30:19,040
Speaker 3: Are you court side?

1727
01:30:19,080 --> 01:30:24,360
Speaker 2: Because you're a celebrity, you know, Eddie, Since you asked,

1728
01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:27,360
Speaker 2: and I did not prompt you to ask, said question.

1729
01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:32,439
Speaker 1: I will tell you that they have been very good

1730
01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:34,800
Speaker 1: to me over at AU ind and I have been

1731
01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:39,000
Speaker 1: able to do that in the past. But I actually

1732
01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:42,920
Speaker 1: I told Shannon about three weeks ago, I said, you

1733
01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:45,439
Speaker 1: know what, I'm going to buy tickets to go to

1734
01:30:45,479 --> 01:30:48,280
Speaker 1: a game for US, to go to AU Indy, to

1735
01:30:48,320 --> 01:30:52,800
Speaker 1: go to a game for US at Indiana State, and

1736
01:30:52,840 --> 01:30:54,760
Speaker 1: to go to a game for US at Ball State.

1737
01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:57,400
Speaker 1: So I bought those three and then you know, I

1738
01:30:57,400 --> 01:31:00,559
Speaker 1: would assume at some point hankle it goes without saying

1739
01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:03,280
Speaker 1: it's awesome, and then IU and Purdue, but of the

1740
01:31:04,720 --> 01:31:07,280
Speaker 1: you know, the other d one schools in the within

1741
01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:08,679
Speaker 1: the hour driving area.

1742
01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:13,639
Speaker 3: So I'm going Indiana State. I'm going to see them play.

1743
01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:15,840
Speaker 1: I think it's Northern Iowa is the game I'm going

1744
01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:17,920
Speaker 1: to for that Ball State. I wanted to see Ball

1745
01:31:17,960 --> 01:31:19,000
Speaker 1: States playing U Mass.

1746
01:31:19,680 --> 01:31:20,960
Speaker 3: What league is U Mass in?

1747
01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:21,200
Speaker 8: Now?

1748
01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:23,040
Speaker 4: By the way, because they play them twice? You Mass

1749
01:31:23,080 --> 01:31:24,160
Speaker 4: isn't in the MAC now are they?

1750
01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:25,840
Speaker 6: Am?

1751
01:31:25,880 --> 01:31:26,200
Speaker 3: I like?

1752
01:31:26,320 --> 01:31:29,680
Speaker 1: Is that the dumbest thing that anybody's ever asked? Am

1753
01:31:29,720 --> 01:31:34,200
Speaker 1: I am? I like, way late to the party, but

1754
01:31:34,560 --> 01:31:36,679
Speaker 1: I noticed that Ball State has them on the schedule twice.

1755
01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:38,840
Speaker 3: They are indeed. U mass is now in the MAC

1756
01:31:39,280 --> 01:31:41,640
Speaker 3: Yeah they joined this year, first year joining.

1757
01:31:41,880 --> 01:31:44,439
Speaker 1: They are they in the back in football also because

1758
01:31:44,560 --> 01:31:46,599
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't know they're one of those weird

1759
01:31:46,640 --> 01:31:48,800
Speaker 1: I think of like Villanova and U Mass as the

1760
01:31:48,880 --> 01:31:52,080
Speaker 1: in Georgetown as the schools that are basketball D one

1761
01:31:52,120 --> 01:31:53,120
Speaker 1: only and then football.

1762
01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:56,280
Speaker 3: It's like one double A. But I could be wrong. Yeah, football, yes,

1763
01:31:56,320 --> 01:31:57,160
Speaker 3: are they really okay?

1764
01:31:58,240 --> 01:32:01,479
Speaker 1: So at any rate, going tonight. And then so I

1765
01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:03,759
Speaker 1: say to Shandon yesterday, I go, hey, just a reminder

1766
01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:05,000
Speaker 1: tomorrow night to be fun.

1767
01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:07,320
Speaker 3: That's the IU Indie game that we're going to. And

1768
01:32:07,360 --> 01:32:11,439
Speaker 3: she said, oh, and she has an appointment. She has

1769
01:32:11,479 --> 01:32:14,040
Speaker 3: to do it like five point fifteen. And I'm like, well, okay,

1770
01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:17,320
Speaker 3: so I have an extra ticket to the IU Indie game.

1771
01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:21,720
Speaker 3: You're you're just going solo or I think I am,

1772
01:32:21,920 --> 01:32:23,559
Speaker 3: or since you were inviting me, I don't know what

1773
01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:23,840
Speaker 3: this is.

1774
01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:27,120
Speaker 1: I think I'm going solo. I threw a line out

1775
01:32:27,120 --> 01:32:28,600
Speaker 1: the buyer and to see what he's got going on.

1776
01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:31,720
Speaker 1: I never know where he is, and then if not,

1777
01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:34,519
Speaker 1: I might just use the extra leg room just go.

1778
01:32:35,240 --> 01:32:37,360
Speaker 1: But I just bought two tickets. I got them right

1779
01:32:37,360 --> 01:32:39,880
Speaker 1: here yesterday I also bought tickets for and I'm very

1780
01:32:39,880 --> 01:32:40,559
Speaker 1: excited about this.

1781
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:43,680
Speaker 2: David Byrne, I now see how Derek Schultz feels all

1782
01:32:43,720 --> 01:32:44,120
Speaker 2: the time.

1783
01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:48,160
Speaker 3: Would you like to go Eddie? I can't.

1784
01:32:48,280 --> 01:32:51,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, see exactly I knew that, right, he didn't know that.

1785
01:32:51,200 --> 01:32:53,200
Speaker 4: I didn't know that because you yesterday we were talking

1786
01:32:53,240 --> 01:32:55,800
Speaker 4: about something we had to do, actually just something I

1787
01:32:55,840 --> 01:32:57,280
Speaker 4: needed you to do for me, and you said you

1788
01:32:57,280 --> 01:33:00,400
Speaker 4: couldn't do it. Because if you recall, and you obviously

1789
01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:05,160
Speaker 4: I don't even recall this, but if you recall, because

1790
01:33:05,160 --> 01:33:06,439
Speaker 4: of the fact that I knew I was going to

1791
01:33:06,479 --> 01:33:12,080
Speaker 4: the game, I needed you to come and salt something,

1792
01:33:12,160 --> 01:33:14,200
Speaker 4: lay down some salt because it's supposed to be bad out.

1793
01:33:14,600 --> 01:33:16,040
Speaker 1: And also was going to hire you to do a

1794
01:33:16,160 --> 01:33:22,160
Speaker 1: less shoveling where both my parents driveway, which is my responsibility.

1795
01:33:22,160 --> 01:33:24,839
Speaker 1: And then I relegate that, and then.

1796
01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:27,040
Speaker 3: You delegate that. Delegate that relegate it.

1797
01:33:27,080 --> 01:33:29,280
Speaker 4: Sorry, I relegate you to being delegated today.

1798
01:33:29,479 --> 01:33:29,840
Speaker 3: How's that?

1799
01:33:30,280 --> 01:33:30,400
Speaker 9: Uh?

1800
01:33:30,560 --> 01:33:34,280
Speaker 1: And then I also the lot where I live, I

1801
01:33:34,320 --> 01:33:35,880
Speaker 1: was gonna have you. I was going to, you know,

1802
01:33:35,920 --> 01:33:37,360
Speaker 1: pay you like a neighborhood kid, come to you.

1803
01:33:37,680 --> 01:33:39,960
Speaker 2: Why when I do that for the lot where you live.

1804
01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:42,240
Speaker 2: I was going to pay you for it, well, I'd

1805
01:33:42,439 --> 01:33:43,720
Speaker 2: even paid for everybody.

1806
01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:45,920
Speaker 1: But when I asked if you wanted to do it,

1807
01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:47,280
Speaker 1: you said you had stuff to do. I asked you

1808
01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:48,640
Speaker 1: a while ago, and so then I knew that you

1809
01:33:48,640 --> 01:33:51,720
Speaker 1: couldn't go to the game tonight. But I am going

1810
01:33:51,760 --> 01:33:53,639
Speaker 1: to the game tonight. So if anybody's going to the game,

1811
01:33:53,680 --> 01:33:55,840
Speaker 1: feel free to say hi, or I could just say

1812
01:33:55,880 --> 01:33:57,519
Speaker 1: right now, if anybody'd like to go, let me know

1813
01:33:57,600 --> 01:33:59,599
Speaker 1: and I'll pick you up and we'll go right because

1814
01:33:59,600 --> 01:34:02,400
Speaker 1: I have an should taket for what that's worth? Three

1815
01:34:02,479 --> 01:34:05,960
Speaker 1: one seven eighty eight. That's right, that's that's my cell

1816
01:34:05,960 --> 01:34:09,200
Speaker 1: phone number. But I'm still waiting to hear from Byron first.

1817
01:34:09,240 --> 01:34:10,439
Speaker 1: But after that, if you want to go to the

1818
01:34:10,439 --> 01:34:11,280
Speaker 1: IU Indie game, do.

1819
01:34:11,320 --> 01:34:11,800
Speaker 3: We sure bio?

1820
01:34:12,439 --> 01:34:15,960
Speaker 4: His phone is at everything he is traveling, so he

1821
01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:17,679
Speaker 4: might have lost it anyway.

1822
01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:20,200
Speaker 1: Colts obviously, Philip Rivers, I think he's going to start

1823
01:34:20,200 --> 01:34:23,320
Speaker 1: on Sunday Pacers if you're just joining us. Garrison Matthews

1824
01:34:23,400 --> 01:34:27,000
Speaker 1: has been now added to the roster and full time.

1825
01:34:27,040 --> 01:34:28,479
Speaker 1: I mean he was already on the roster, but they

1826
01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:30,160
Speaker 1: have now given him. What did you say it is

1827
01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:33,400
Speaker 1: Eddie basically an end of year deal. Correct, Yes, he

1828
01:34:33,520 --> 01:34:35,760
Speaker 1: is locked in for the rest of the season. Is

1829
01:34:35,800 --> 01:34:42,280
Speaker 1: Garrison Matthews, and he he is. Garrison Matthews has the

1830
01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:46,080
Speaker 1: benefit or had the benefit in this circumstance and situation

1831
01:34:46,439 --> 01:34:51,800
Speaker 1: of bringing to the table something that very few others had,

1832
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:58,160
Speaker 1: and that is as good as even last year, as

1833
01:34:58,160 --> 01:35:02,120
Speaker 1: good as the Pacers were a year ago go. And

1834
01:35:02,200 --> 01:35:05,479
Speaker 1: when they get going and they're running their offense as

1835
01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:09,920
Speaker 1: their offense when you have a healthy Tyrese Haliburton, when

1836
01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:13,400
Speaker 1: you have a healthy Aaronie Smith, when you have a

1837
01:35:13,439 --> 01:35:19,720
Speaker 1: healthy Obi Tappin, and when you had Miles Turner, that

1838
01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:24,920
Speaker 1: offense as good as it was in Pascal Siakam as well, obviously,

1839
01:35:25,479 --> 01:35:30,599
Speaker 1: but their three point shooting ability was largely I think

1840
01:35:30,840 --> 01:35:34,960
Speaker 1: dependent upon and based upon and built up by the

1841
01:35:35,720 --> 01:35:38,680
Speaker 1: rapidity with which they could play and move the basketball

1842
01:35:38,840 --> 01:35:41,760
Speaker 1: then getting people very open looks and opportunity.

1843
01:35:42,760 --> 01:35:45,439
Speaker 4: And I don't know that you would say that.

1844
01:35:45,439 --> 01:35:48,880
Speaker 1: There's anybody that is like a pure quote unquote pure shooter,

1845
01:35:49,200 --> 01:35:54,040
Speaker 1: just a marksman shooter. And I'm not trying to oversell

1846
01:35:54,040 --> 01:36:00,160
Speaker 1: what Garrison Matthews is except for that he brings He's

1847
01:36:00,200 --> 01:36:02,759
Speaker 1: not a one trick pony. That's unfair also to say,

1848
01:36:03,280 --> 01:36:05,640
Speaker 1: but he does that one thing very well. He's a

1849
01:36:05,720 --> 01:36:13,280
Speaker 1: Duncan Robinson. He's a Duncan Robinson. Duncan Robinson has made

1850
01:36:13,600 --> 01:36:16,040
Speaker 1: I mean a guy that played like D three basketball

1851
01:36:16,080 --> 01:36:19,639
Speaker 1: and then finished at Michigan. But Duncan Robinson has made

1852
01:36:19,800 --> 01:36:22,519
Speaker 1: a living now and done a really good job of

1853
01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:26,640
Speaker 1: being able to go out and I mean he is

1854
01:36:26,720 --> 01:36:29,639
Speaker 1: a designated marksman, sniper, outside shooter.

1855
01:36:29,680 --> 01:36:30,280
Speaker 3: That's what he does.

1856
01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:32,720
Speaker 1: That's why he's on the floor, and you have to

1857
01:36:32,760 --> 01:36:35,160
Speaker 1: be aware of where he is at all times. Speaking

1858
01:36:35,200 --> 01:36:36,479
Speaker 1: of being aware of where he is. By the way,

1859
01:36:36,520 --> 01:36:38,519
Speaker 1: Tony East is out with the Pacers. They are wrapping

1860
01:36:38,560 --> 01:36:42,280
Speaker 1: up practice. We anticipate him joining us, you know, does

1861
01:36:42,400 --> 01:36:47,599
Speaker 1: take place, can I guess? Yeah, Garrison Matthews, Yes, you're right, really, yes,

1862
01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:51,760
Speaker 1: he's interviewing. Well, then we'll be the first to talk

1863
01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:54,479
Speaker 1: to him after that. Tony East, right, yeah, which is

1864
01:36:54,560 --> 01:36:59,200
Speaker 1: kind of cool. The Purdue last night, by the way,

1865
01:36:59,240 --> 01:37:02,559
Speaker 1: against Minnesota. Before we get Tony East, Brian Nubert joined

1866
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:05,439
Speaker 1: me one o'clock. Big story there for Purdue would be this.

1867
01:37:06,439 --> 01:37:10,920
Speaker 1: They rebounded from their loss to Iowa State. That's good news.

1868
01:37:12,320 --> 01:37:15,320
Speaker 1: Early in the game, there was a kind of scary

1869
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:18,559
Speaker 1: incident literally I think it was the second or third possession.

1870
01:37:19,880 --> 01:37:23,519
Speaker 1: Braden Smith got kind of tied up, got knocked backward,

1871
01:37:24,439 --> 01:37:29,320
Speaker 1: and in doing so, in attempting to essentially break his fall.

1872
01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:35,320
Speaker 1: And we've all done this, You've all done it where

1873
01:37:37,320 --> 01:37:39,280
Speaker 1: you know, we all you trip or whatever else, and

1874
01:37:39,479 --> 01:37:41,800
Speaker 1: you reach down to break your fall and your hand

1875
01:37:41,920 --> 01:37:43,280
Speaker 1: just gets kind of, you know, all of a sudden

1876
01:37:43,280 --> 01:37:47,200
Speaker 1: like snapped backward, if you will. And he did have

1877
01:37:47,439 --> 01:37:52,639
Speaker 1: apparently after the game a bandage on said hand, and

1878
01:37:52,680 --> 01:37:56,519
Speaker 1: Matt Peter was asked about it afterwards, Hey, how serious

1879
01:37:56,520 --> 01:37:59,400
Speaker 1: an injury was this? And it was listed initially I

1880
01:37:59,439 --> 01:38:04,559
Speaker 1: think as a hand sprain. Braden Smith is the engine

1881
01:38:05,040 --> 01:38:08,320
Speaker 1: that is, of course driving pretty basketball.

1882
01:38:09,520 --> 01:38:10,759
Speaker 3: And he played thirty two minutes.

1883
01:38:11,000 --> 01:38:13,559
Speaker 1: And so that's what Matt Payter pointed out when it

1884
01:38:13,640 --> 01:38:16,560
Speaker 1: was asked of Matt Painter, how serious is this or

1885
01:38:16,600 --> 01:38:20,920
Speaker 1: how big of concern is this the injury to Braden Smith,

1886
01:38:21,080 --> 01:38:23,160
Speaker 1: and his answer I thought Matt Painter's answer was great. Well,

1887
01:38:23,320 --> 01:38:26,559
Speaker 1: he continued to play. So they don't think, at least

1888
01:38:26,640 --> 01:38:30,559
Speaker 1: as of last night, they didn't think it would be

1889
01:38:31,120 --> 01:38:35,680
Speaker 1: a significant injury. But wait, there's more, and I'm not

1890
01:38:35,760 --> 01:38:40,360
Speaker 1: talking about some sort of an infomercial. The theres more

1891
01:38:40,400 --> 01:38:44,040
Speaker 1: would simply be that when you have situations like that,

1892
01:38:44,800 --> 01:38:49,479
Speaker 1: oftentimes those injuries don't really present themselves or you don't

1893
01:38:49,520 --> 01:38:53,479
Speaker 1: start to see what happens with that until the next day.

1894
01:38:54,720 --> 01:38:56,960
Speaker 1: And there has been no official word yet today, although

1895
01:38:56,960 --> 01:39:00,599
Speaker 1: when we talked to Brian Nubert, kind of no news

1896
01:39:00,680 --> 01:39:03,000
Speaker 1: is good news. And the fact that I think they

1897
01:39:03,040 --> 01:39:04,720
Speaker 1: probably just looked at it and said, you know what,

1898
01:39:05,280 --> 01:39:07,840
Speaker 1: probably dodged one there, and in a market where that

1899
01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:11,760
Speaker 1: has been rare, that's good news. But Braiden Smith did

1900
01:39:11,760 --> 01:39:14,800
Speaker 1: Braiden Smith things right. Fifteen points, He had twelve assists

1901
01:39:15,600 --> 01:39:23,000
Speaker 1: last night, and the way that he moves the ball

1902
01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:27,679
Speaker 1: around and gets others involved, you know, Daniel Jacobson going

1903
01:39:27,720 --> 01:39:30,080
Speaker 1: into double digits. Treykoffin rent I thought last night was

1904
01:39:30,080 --> 01:39:33,120
Speaker 1: really good on the low block for Purdue. But Braiden Smith,

1905
01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:41,519
Speaker 1: I understand this. I understand this thought. I was talking

1906
01:39:41,560 --> 01:39:43,519
Speaker 1: about Purdue a couple of weeks ago and I said

1907
01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:46,120
Speaker 1: on the air, you gotta love Purdue because of the

1908
01:39:46,200 --> 01:39:47,240
Speaker 1: number one team in the country.

1909
01:39:47,280 --> 01:39:48,519
Speaker 3: They have one of the best coaches.

1910
01:39:48,800 --> 01:39:52,120
Speaker 1: They have the most consistent roster in terms of in

1911
01:39:52,200 --> 01:39:55,160
Speaker 1: the era of transfers and poor and all that stuff.

1912
01:39:56,560 --> 01:39:59,120
Speaker 1: But they went out and got the one thing that

1913
01:39:59,160 --> 01:40:01,560
Speaker 1: they needed more than any something else would be a

1914
01:40:01,600 --> 01:40:05,639
Speaker 1: hard nosed rebounder. They got that at Oscar Cluff. Trey

1915
01:40:05,720 --> 01:40:10,679
Speaker 1: Kaufman Wrenn continues to be Trey Kaufman wren and he

1916
01:40:10,800 --> 01:40:17,639
Speaker 1: is very underrated and underappreciated. Fletcher Lawyer can shoot lights out,

1917
01:40:17,880 --> 01:40:20,360
Speaker 1: and then you have you know, Harris coming off the bench.

1918
01:40:20,439 --> 01:40:23,760
Speaker 1: I mean, they have been able to sustain and maintain

1919
01:40:24,200 --> 01:40:26,920
Speaker 1: at a very high level, has Purdue. But when I

1920
01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:29,439
Speaker 1: was talking about them and talking up the things about

1921
01:40:29,439 --> 01:40:32,240
Speaker 1: Purdue that I liked, I made mentioned pre Iowa State

1922
01:40:32,280 --> 01:40:37,760
Speaker 1: game that Braiden Smith is the best player in college basketball.

1923
01:40:37,800 --> 01:40:44,439
Speaker 1: And I'm walking into the Colts game and somebody comes

1924
01:40:44,479 --> 01:40:45,800
Speaker 1: up to me. I'm not gonna say his name, I'm

1925
01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:47,559
Speaker 1: like to do it a great deal And it wasn't

1926
01:40:47,600 --> 01:40:49,960
Speaker 1: like and I mean, it was a fun hearted debate.

1927
01:40:50,120 --> 01:40:50,719
Speaker 3: It wasn't.

1928
01:40:51,200 --> 01:40:52,519
Speaker 1: But I don't want to like throw him under the

1929
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Speaker 1: bus here. But he comes up and he says, did

1930
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Speaker 1: I hear you say that Braiden Smith's the best player

1931
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Speaker 1: in college basketball, And I said, you know, I don't

1932
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Speaker 1: recall saying that, but yes, I would have said that

1933
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Speaker 1: because I believe that. And he said, he's not even

1934
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Speaker 1: the best player on his team. And it kind of

1935
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Speaker 1: gets into the debate and the discussion of which is

1936
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Speaker 1: it In the debate and the discussion of most valuable

1937
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Speaker 1: player or Player of the year. You know, is the

1938
01:41:18,200 --> 01:41:21,759
Speaker 1: most valuable player in the NFL the guy that brings

1939
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Speaker 1: the most value to his team and the guy who

1940
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Speaker 1: his team drops the most without him in there, or

1941
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Speaker 1: is the most valuable player simply the guy that's the

1942
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Speaker 1: best player.

1943
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Speaker 3: And when it comes to.

1944
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Speaker 1: The discussion in college basketball, is Braden Smith the best

1945
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Speaker 1: player in college basketball?

1946
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Speaker 6: Wow?

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Speaker 4: Okay, I mean I get it.

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Speaker 1: There are obviously players around the country that you know,

1949
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Speaker 1: bo I used, I got two of them right, that

1950
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Speaker 1: are going to be better long term NBA player, unique athleticism,

1951
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Speaker 1: top level, can't miss one and done would be in

1952
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Speaker 1: the league if they didn't have to be playing in

1953
01:42:05,760 --> 01:42:09,000
Speaker 1: college right now level players, And there are probably one

1954
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Speaker 1: hundred players that would beat Braden Smith in a game

1955
01:42:11,960 --> 01:42:16,439
Speaker 1: of one on one. But if you were to survey

1956
01:42:16,640 --> 01:42:22,120
Speaker 1: college basketball coaches. I think they would agree to this.

1957
01:42:23,320 --> 01:42:26,679
Speaker 1: It's like the Heisman Trophy. And this was the case

1958
01:42:26,680 --> 01:42:30,360
Speaker 1: that I made. Is Fernando Mendoza the best player in

1959
01:42:30,439 --> 01:42:37,080
Speaker 1: college football? Has Mendoza had the best season in college football?

1960
01:42:37,240 --> 01:42:43,439
Speaker 1: The Heisman, by definition, is given to the player that

1961
01:42:43,479 --> 01:42:46,360
Speaker 1: had the best season in college football or the best

1962
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Speaker 1: player in college football. Now, Mendoza might have had the

1963
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Speaker 1: best season, it doesn't mean he's necessarily the best player.

1964
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Speaker 1: He's way up there, and he's going to win the Heisman,

1965
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Speaker 1: which is going to be awesome. But when you look

1966
01:43:01,120 --> 01:43:06,519
Speaker 1: at the Heisman Trophy, you say, okay. More often than not,

1967
01:43:08,720 --> 01:43:11,439
Speaker 1: the Heisman Trophy ghost stores and it started to kind

1968
01:43:11,479 --> 01:43:15,240
Speaker 1: of get away from this again. Thankfully. You know, Charles

1969
01:43:15,280 --> 01:43:23,400
Speaker 1: Woodson was you know, he wanted over Peyton Manning. Was

1970
01:43:23,439 --> 01:43:27,040
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning the better player? Charles Woodson's pretty elite, obviously,

1971
01:43:27,520 --> 01:43:30,880
Speaker 1: but Woodson was on a team that, with what they

1972
01:43:30,920 --> 01:43:33,599
Speaker 1: did and the stakes they had in games they played,

1973
01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:36,000
Speaker 1: that kind of won it for him. But we got

1974
01:43:36,040 --> 01:43:39,040
Speaker 1: into a period there where the Heisman Trophy was simply

1975
01:43:39,080 --> 01:43:44,599
Speaker 1: going Troy Smith, really, Jason White, really it was going

1976
01:43:44,680 --> 01:43:49,280
Speaker 1: to Gino Torretta, the Heisman Trophy was going to the

1977
01:43:49,400 --> 01:43:53,880
Speaker 1: quarterback of the best team. Mendoza is going to win

1978
01:43:53,920 --> 01:43:56,800
Speaker 1: the Heisman. Not just because he's had an unbelievable year,

1979
01:43:57,080 --> 01:43:58,960
Speaker 1: not just because he's put his team on his back

1980
01:43:59,240 --> 01:44:04,280
Speaker 1: to answer to things on multiple occasions, but mostly because

1981
01:44:04,760 --> 01:44:08,599
Speaker 1: he is the quarterback of the best team in college football.

1982
01:44:10,200 --> 01:44:13,160
Speaker 1: And who is the quarterback of the best team in

1983
01:44:13,200 --> 01:44:16,479
Speaker 1: college basketball? And yes, they're not ranking number one right now,

1984
01:44:16,520 --> 01:44:21,960
Speaker 1: I get that. And Houston's really good, and you know,

1985
01:44:22,000 --> 01:44:27,559
Speaker 1: Alabama's really good, pretty beat him, Michigan's unbelievably good. But

1986
01:44:27,600 --> 01:44:31,479
Speaker 1: there's something about a guy that very clearly has the

1987
01:44:31,520 --> 01:44:35,040
Speaker 1: command of what his team needs, what his team wants.

1988
01:44:35,439 --> 01:44:39,680
Speaker 1: That is running the floor, running the team, getting others involved,

1989
01:44:40,080 --> 01:44:45,880
Speaker 1: distributing the basketball, making game winning plays, smart player, heady player,

1990
01:44:46,160 --> 01:44:48,760
Speaker 1: the guy that the other team all despises even though

1991
01:44:48,760 --> 01:44:52,040
Speaker 1: they wish they had him, and more so, a guy

1992
01:44:52,320 --> 01:44:55,960
Speaker 1: that has been there for now multiple years, which also

1993
01:44:56,080 --> 01:45:01,280
Speaker 1: helps him. So yes, I believe that Braden Smith is

1994
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Speaker 1: the best player in college basketball. And last night, you

1995
01:45:05,280 --> 01:45:10,120
Speaker 1: know that that injury and I say injury, that ding that.

1996
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Speaker 3: He took there in.

1997
01:45:13,280 --> 01:45:16,679
Speaker 1: The second play of the game, you automatically shay yourself,

1998
01:45:16,760 --> 01:45:19,920
Speaker 1: Oh wow, but he played through at thirty two minutes

1999
01:45:20,000 --> 01:45:23,160
Speaker 1: and all's well if you will, that ends well in

2000
01:45:23,200 --> 01:45:27,000
Speaker 1: that circumstance. Pacers are by the way back on the road.

2001
01:45:27,120 --> 01:45:29,920
Speaker 1: They are in Philadelphia tomorrow night. Correct, Eddie.

2002
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Speaker 3: That is accurate six thirty pre game, right here on

2003
01:45:32,439 --> 01:45:35,680
Speaker 3: the fan. And you know you raised an interesting point earlier.

2004
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Speaker 3: Garrison raised those? What's that I raised those?

2005
01:45:39,680 --> 01:45:44,240
Speaker 4: I didn't occasionally, okay, but I didn't realize it. So

2006
01:45:44,360 --> 01:45:48,000
Speaker 4: if they if Eddie White, Eddie White is like the

2007
01:45:48,040 --> 01:45:49,040
Speaker 4: Pacer gift fairy.

2008
01:45:49,280 --> 01:45:50,880
Speaker 1: You just never know when Eddie White's going to show

2009
01:45:50,920 --> 01:45:54,040
Speaker 1: up with cookies or other such things, right, And so

2010
01:45:54,960 --> 01:45:57,919
Speaker 1: Eddie White occasionally has been known to drop off jerseys

2011
01:45:58,000 --> 01:46:00,639
Speaker 1: or that kind of thing or promotional items for the Pacers.

2012
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Speaker 3: And when.

2013
01:46:04,360 --> 01:46:06,920
Speaker 1: Eddie White does that, a lot of times he will

2014
01:46:07,080 --> 01:46:09,080
Speaker 1: like put together. You know, he'll give you a jersey

2015
01:46:09,080 --> 01:46:10,760
Speaker 1: of a player, but like with your name on it

2016
01:46:10,840 --> 01:46:12,680
Speaker 1: or a number with your name on it. If you,

2017
01:46:13,000 --> 01:46:18,559
Speaker 1: Eddie Garrison, were to get the jersey of a pacer player,

2018
01:46:18,600 --> 01:46:21,600
Speaker 1: if you had to get a pacer player jersey, you

2019
01:46:21,640 --> 01:46:25,679
Speaker 1: know whom I would be, right, Yep, that would be who.

2020
01:46:26,200 --> 01:46:28,760
Speaker 1: You'd probably go Aeron Neesmith one hundred percent.

2021
01:46:29,560 --> 01:46:31,320
Speaker 4: Every day of the week. And I love the new

2022
01:46:31,360 --> 01:46:32,360
Speaker 4: balanced shoes that he wears.

2023
01:46:32,360 --> 01:46:36,040
Speaker 1: I love him. He's got the best shoes on the team.

2024
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Speaker 1: But if you were to get a jersey, what player

2025
01:46:38,439 --> 01:46:38,960
Speaker 1: would you pick?

2026
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Speaker 3: I'd probably go Andrew naim Harden.

2027
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Speaker 1: Okay, I could see that. But if the jerseys on

2028
01:46:45,800 --> 01:46:47,960
Speaker 1: the back of them had the guy's first name, you

2029
01:46:47,960 --> 01:46:49,520
Speaker 1: would have to go with Matthews.

2030
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Speaker 3: Right absolutely.

2031
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Speaker 1: I don't know how I was never able to put

2032
01:46:53,920 --> 01:46:58,439
Speaker 1: together until you mentioned it that, in fact, there's a

2033
01:46:58,439 --> 01:47:00,599
Speaker 1: Garrison on the roster. I have no idea how I'd

2034
01:47:00,600 --> 01:47:05,040
Speaker 1: like to completely space that. Right, but he's in the

2035
01:47:05,080 --> 01:47:08,559
Speaker 1: mix for Indiana, and the first opportunity to see him

2036
01:47:08,600 --> 01:47:11,120
Speaker 1: now with a locked in contract, I mean, he's obviously

2037
01:47:11,200 --> 01:47:13,840
Speaker 1: been in the mix. Philadelphia Tomorrow night, Oh no, is

2038
01:47:13,840 --> 01:47:17,599
Speaker 1: that tomorrow night or tonight? Tomorrow night in Philly?

2039
01:47:17,640 --> 01:47:19,800
Speaker 3: Tomorrow night, Yeah, tomorrow night in Philly. My days are

2040
01:47:19,840 --> 01:47:20,639
Speaker 3: all screwed up.

2041
01:47:21,439 --> 01:47:23,000
Speaker 1: My days are all mixed up because we're in the

2042
01:47:23,000 --> 01:47:24,720
Speaker 1: new building and it feels like a Monday to me.

2043
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Speaker 1: Joining us now in the Java House. Peel a poor

2044
01:47:26,880 --> 01:47:29,599
Speaker 1: guest line. And if you're watching us right now on

2045
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Speaker 1: the YouTube, you might notice my fabulous Java House t shirt.

2046
01:47:33,439 --> 01:47:36,240
Speaker 1: Thank you to Mackenzie Newman from Java House for sending

2047
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Speaker 1: that over. But Tony East joining us. Now, Tony, let's

2048
01:47:38,600 --> 01:47:43,360
Speaker 1: get to this. The contract for Garrison Matthews. This is

2049
01:47:43,479 --> 01:47:46,559
Speaker 1: different than what he like in terms of his title

2050
01:47:46,600 --> 01:47:48,200
Speaker 1: from a week ago.

2051
01:47:48,280 --> 01:47:48,840
Speaker 3: In what way?

2052
01:47:49,920 --> 01:47:50,160
Speaker 6: Yeah?

2053
01:47:50,160 --> 01:47:52,439
Speaker 7: This is just now a standard contract, right, He's just

2054
01:47:52,560 --> 01:47:56,280
Speaker 7: one of the normal fifteen guys that's on the team.

2055
01:47:56,400 --> 01:47:58,559
Speaker 7: And you know, when you're on a hardship, it's basically

2056
01:47:58,600 --> 01:48:01,960
Speaker 7: an extra roster spot granted for a ten day period

2057
01:48:01,960 --> 01:48:04,120
Speaker 7: for a team. This isn't extra, it's just a regular one.

2058
01:48:04,160 --> 01:48:06,280
Speaker 7: And they that's why they had to cut Jeremia Robinson

2059
01:48:06,400 --> 01:48:08,880
Speaker 7: roll to give him that spun. But his shooting in

2060
01:48:08,920 --> 01:48:10,800
Speaker 7: gravity's cool to something this team likes a lot.

2061
01:48:10,960 --> 01:48:14,000
Speaker 1: Okay, I want to get to this first, because we

2062
01:48:14,080 --> 01:48:16,680
Speaker 1: have discussed this, and you know this better than anybody

2063
01:48:16,720 --> 01:48:19,519
Speaker 1: and can explain it. And I will paint myself into

2064
01:48:19,520 --> 01:48:23,200
Speaker 1: a corner if I try to. A guy is allowed

2065
01:48:23,200 --> 01:48:26,160
Speaker 1: to be signed to a ten day Give me if

2066
01:48:26,200 --> 01:48:28,880
Speaker 1: you will, Tony, We'll do it this way. How many

2067
01:48:28,920 --> 01:48:32,439
Speaker 1: different contracts. How many different types of contracts are there

2068
01:48:32,439 --> 01:48:34,559
Speaker 1: that a player can be under for an NBA team?

2069
01:48:35,280 --> 01:48:38,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, they can do how many types of contracts?

2070
01:48:38,400 --> 01:48:38,559
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2071
01:48:38,600 --> 01:48:39,160
Speaker 9: Are you asking?

2072
01:48:39,360 --> 01:48:39,559
Speaker 3: Yes?

2073
01:48:39,680 --> 01:48:43,120
Speaker 7: Oh man, there are so many. Like hardship ten days

2074
01:48:43,160 --> 01:48:45,720
Speaker 7: is what he just Garrison was on before this. There's

2075
01:48:45,760 --> 01:48:49,320
Speaker 7: standard regular ten days, which can't even technically be signed

2076
01:48:49,320 --> 01:48:52,800
Speaker 7: by a player until January fifth. There's two ways which

2077
01:48:52,880 --> 01:48:55,000
Speaker 7: you know Quinton Jackson's done that he's going to play

2078
01:48:55,000 --> 01:48:58,720
Speaker 7: for the Boom tonight. There's just regular standard contracts. There's

2079
01:48:59,160 --> 01:49:01,599
Speaker 7: I guess, non guaranteed and partially guaranteed.

2080
01:49:02,000 --> 01:49:04,240
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean I get the guaranteed and all that.

2081
01:49:04,320 --> 01:49:05,960
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is in terms of the way

2082
01:49:06,000 --> 01:49:08,679
Speaker 1: that a guy is acquired. So for a ten day time,

2083
01:49:08,800 --> 01:49:11,320
Speaker 1: most of the types that I okay ran through in

2084
01:49:11,360 --> 01:49:14,200
Speaker 1: the ten day contract you can only do for a

2085
01:49:14,280 --> 01:49:16,639
Speaker 1: maximum of thirty days? Am I correct in saying that?

2086
01:49:17,040 --> 01:49:19,320
Speaker 7: And you can sign two with the same team in

2087
01:49:19,400 --> 01:49:21,840
Speaker 7: a year, But it can end up being as long

2088
01:49:21,880 --> 01:49:24,519
Speaker 7: as what you just said thirty days because technically, if

2089
01:49:24,520 --> 01:49:26,960
Speaker 7: it's like only two games, you're allowed to get a

2090
01:49:27,000 --> 01:49:29,519
Speaker 7: third game. So the timing of the calendar can make

2091
01:49:29,520 --> 01:49:31,840
Speaker 7: it so it's longer. But yes, you can only sign

2092
01:49:31,920 --> 01:49:34,040
Speaker 7: two ten days of any kind with a team in

2093
01:49:34,080 --> 01:49:36,720
Speaker 7: a season. That's why Garrison's time had to be, you know,

2094
01:49:36,960 --> 01:49:38,639
Speaker 7: transferred to a different kind of deal.

2095
01:49:38,520 --> 01:49:39,400
Speaker 3: If they wanted to keep him.

2096
01:49:39,400 --> 01:49:42,400
Speaker 1: Now, okay, now by getting it so just for example, though,

2097
01:49:42,680 --> 01:49:46,479
Speaker 1: before Garrison Matthews calls Biff Ward and says, I got

2098
01:49:46,479 --> 01:49:50,120
Speaker 1: to buy a house before that happens. Isn't this the

2099
01:49:50,160 --> 01:49:52,639
Speaker 1: same circumstance that we saw with mac McClung.

2100
01:49:53,800 --> 01:49:54,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was.

2101
01:49:54,680 --> 01:49:57,400
Speaker 7: No, he was on a standard deal he signed because

2102
01:49:57,200 --> 01:50:00,960
Speaker 7: they waved James Wiseman to bring him in. He was

2103
01:50:01,000 --> 01:50:04,439
Speaker 7: just on a regular, non guaranteed contract that was unrelated

2104
01:50:04,479 --> 01:50:06,400
Speaker 7: to the hardships of the ten days or anything like that,

2105
01:50:06,439 --> 01:50:08,640
Speaker 7: which is why he was the guy they wave us

2106
01:50:08,720 --> 01:50:11,240
Speaker 7: to eventually bring in Monte Morris because they needed our

2107
01:50:11,280 --> 01:50:13,080
Speaker 7: roster spot to do that. I'm sure this is all

2108
01:50:13,120 --> 01:50:14,639
Speaker 7: super interesting and not no.

2109
01:50:14,680 --> 01:50:17,439
Speaker 1: But but I guess the reason I'm asking it, Tony,

2110
01:50:17,560 --> 01:50:21,240
Speaker 1: is this, Okay, the reason I'm asking it is is

2111
01:50:21,360 --> 01:50:24,720
Speaker 1: this indicative of the fact that they see Garrison Matthews

2112
01:50:24,800 --> 01:50:28,040
Speaker 1: as more of a long term guy than Robinson Earl

2113
01:50:28,280 --> 01:50:30,920
Speaker 1: or was it that they simply need him for a

2114
01:50:30,920 --> 01:50:33,040
Speaker 1: little bit longer period of time, and this is the

2115
01:50:33,080 --> 01:50:36,440
Speaker 1: way to facilitate that, even though it doesn't mean solidarity

2116
01:50:36,479 --> 01:50:37,200
Speaker 1: long term.

2117
01:50:37,680 --> 01:50:39,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, I actually think it's a little bit of both.

2118
01:50:39,680 --> 01:50:39,840
Speaker 6: You know.

2119
01:50:39,880 --> 01:50:44,920
Speaker 7: It certainly is the part you said about the potential

2120
01:50:45,200 --> 01:50:47,760
Speaker 7: term if I just cut out. Sorry, the potential long

2121
01:50:47,840 --> 01:50:50,720
Speaker 7: term for him is there because of the shooting, and

2122
01:50:51,080 --> 01:50:53,599
Speaker 7: you know that fits with any team, right He's done

2123
01:50:53,640 --> 01:50:55,439
Speaker 7: that for every single group he's been on, and so

2124
01:50:55,840 --> 01:50:57,559
Speaker 7: his standard deal runs to the end of the season.

2125
01:50:57,640 --> 01:50:59,240
Speaker 7: They can now see, Okay, does this fit with the

2126
01:50:59,240 --> 01:51:01,479
Speaker 7: way we play? Does this fit with our offense? And

2127
01:51:01,840 --> 01:51:04,360
Speaker 7: when Tyre Taliburn comes back? Is Garrison Matthews the guy

2128
01:51:04,400 --> 01:51:06,599
Speaker 7: we could put on the floor with any sort of

2129
01:51:06,760 --> 01:51:09,000
Speaker 7: you know, consistency, And they had, you know, a month

2130
01:51:09,000 --> 01:51:10,920
Speaker 7: and a half to do that with Robinsonroand I thought

2131
01:51:11,000 --> 01:51:13,439
Speaker 7: Robinson Roll was pretty good, to be honest. But I

2132
01:51:13,479 --> 01:51:16,640
Speaker 7: do understand valuing shooting quite a bit, and Matthews was

2133
01:51:16,680 --> 01:51:18,360
Speaker 7: doing that on his second ten day.

2134
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Speaker 3: Quite a bit.

2135
01:51:19,160 --> 01:51:21,000
Speaker 7: But the other part of this that is relevant is

2136
01:51:21,040 --> 01:51:23,880
Speaker 7: the contracts in the NBA don't become fully guaranteed until

2137
01:51:23,960 --> 01:51:27,240
Speaker 7: January tenth, so they still have a month with Garrison

2138
01:51:27,280 --> 01:51:30,240
Speaker 7: to kind of evaluate even that if he doesn't prove

2139
01:51:30,320 --> 01:51:32,800
Speaker 7: to be a great fit in this stretch, they could,

2140
01:51:32,960 --> 01:51:35,320
Speaker 7: once again, like they've done so often this season, do

2141
01:51:35,400 --> 01:51:39,040
Speaker 7: another move and bring in somebody else and keep evaluating,

2142
01:51:39,040 --> 01:51:40,599
Speaker 7: and that there's worse things to do with your last

2143
01:51:40,680 --> 01:51:43,240
Speaker 7: roster spot. But he is still kind of fighting to

2144
01:51:43,240 --> 01:51:45,320
Speaker 7: prove it both this season and beyond this year. But

2145
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Speaker 7: I think that they believed the shooting was important enough

2146
01:51:48,360 --> 01:51:50,120
Speaker 7: to at least give him a chance to prove that

2147
01:51:50,160 --> 01:51:51,200
Speaker 7: he can belong on this group.

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Speaker 1: Tony, Where do we stand in terms of return for

2149
01:51:54,560 --> 01:51:56,719
Speaker 1: Aaron Nesmith? Yeah?

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01:51:56,840 --> 01:51:59,360
Speaker 7: Rick Carlisle said on Sunday, I believe it was when

2151
01:51:59,400 --> 01:52:01,559
Speaker 7: we got to this with him that closer to the

2152
01:52:01,600 --> 01:52:04,360
Speaker 7: end of the month would be a realistic timeline for Nismauth.

2153
01:52:04,360 --> 01:52:06,360
Speaker 7: I think he said four weeks was going to be

2154
01:52:06,600 --> 01:52:09,000
Speaker 7: a certain time amount that he missed when that did

2155
01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:12,040
Speaker 7: happen last month, and we're actually I think today is

2156
01:52:12,080 --> 01:52:14,479
Speaker 7: four weeks to the day, but he hasn't done a

2157
01:52:14,479 --> 01:52:17,479
Speaker 7: ton of on court yet, so he's got a couple

2158
01:52:17,800 --> 01:52:19,559
Speaker 7: more weeks to go before he's able to.

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01:52:19,479 --> 01:52:23,040
Speaker 1: Play what sort of things. Have you or Rick Carlisle

2160
01:52:23,200 --> 01:52:27,840
Speaker 1: two different answers. I realize do you believe that they

2161
01:52:27,920 --> 01:52:30,840
Speaker 1: because it seems like one step forward, two steps back

2162
01:52:30,840 --> 01:52:32,840
Speaker 1: for the guy I'm about to mention, And I don't

2163
01:52:32,840 --> 01:52:36,800
Speaker 1: mean that in terms of his ability, but rather opportunity,

2164
01:52:37,400 --> 01:52:39,559
Speaker 1: and that Johnny Furfey just has not gotten the chance

2165
01:52:39,600 --> 01:52:42,280
Speaker 1: to consistently get out on the floor. But it seems

2166
01:52:42,320 --> 01:52:45,720
Speaker 1: as though they are wanting to really take more and

2167
01:52:45,760 --> 01:52:48,439
Speaker 1: more look at him and get him reps.

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01:52:48,640 --> 01:52:50,800
Speaker 3: Ultimately, what is his role going to be?

2169
01:52:51,800 --> 01:52:54,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's I think what I and them bar both

2170
01:52:54,880 --> 01:52:57,160
Speaker 7: are trying to figure out right is now that he's

2171
01:52:57,280 --> 01:52:58,920
Speaker 7: back and playing, and like that is the number one

2172
01:52:58,960 --> 01:53:01,280
Speaker 7: thing for him right now, stay healthy and play some games.

2173
01:53:01,760 --> 01:53:03,720
Speaker 7: Is kind of like what are you, like, what are

2174
01:53:03,720 --> 01:53:06,280
Speaker 7: you actually good at in the NBA in a way

2175
01:53:06,320 --> 01:53:08,200
Speaker 7: that we'll get you on the floor for the Pacers,

2176
01:53:08,240 --> 01:53:10,800
Speaker 7: Because you know, there's this outline of a guy who

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01:53:10,880 --> 01:53:14,240
Speaker 7: last year was like really good at grabbing rebounds every

2178
01:53:14,240 --> 01:53:17,040
Speaker 7: so often and would play better than his frame defensively

2179
01:53:17,120 --> 01:53:19,720
Speaker 7: and occasionally made shots and d some pop in the

2180
01:53:19,720 --> 01:53:21,920
Speaker 7: G League, but it wasn't all the time, right, So, like,

2181
01:53:22,560 --> 01:53:25,360
Speaker 7: what can he show consistency at skill wise that will

2182
01:53:25,360 --> 01:53:27,840
Speaker 7: make this team believe, Oh he can do he can

2183
01:53:27,880 --> 01:53:29,919
Speaker 7: guard really well, great, he can be a good defender

2184
01:53:29,960 --> 01:53:31,680
Speaker 7: on the winger. Oh he can really shoot it. Like

2185
01:53:31,680 --> 01:53:34,280
Speaker 7: I don't, I don't know what the skill projection that

2186
01:53:34,320 --> 01:53:37,280
Speaker 7: they would be certain about him doing for them is

2187
01:53:37,360 --> 01:53:38,960
Speaker 7: at this time. And I kind of think that's what

2188
01:53:39,000 --> 01:53:41,120
Speaker 7: they hope to see on the floor as him pop

2189
01:53:41,200 --> 01:53:43,360
Speaker 7: in one way or a couple of ways that they

2190
01:53:43,360 --> 01:53:45,840
Speaker 7: can say, Okay, that's the role that we can see

2191
01:53:45,880 --> 01:53:48,640
Speaker 7: him playing for this team next year or the you know,

2192
01:53:48,680 --> 01:53:50,880
Speaker 7: the next time he's playing or relied on a postseason,

2193
01:53:50,920 --> 01:53:53,120
Speaker 7: we know it's because of this. I don't think they

2194
01:53:53,160 --> 01:53:54,920
Speaker 7: know that. I don't think Johnny Furfrey really knows that.

2195
01:53:54,960 --> 01:53:57,120
Speaker 7: He's trying to figure out that. In the NBA frame,

2196
01:53:57,160 --> 01:53:59,960
Speaker 7: he's only played, like, you know, twenty five real game

2197
01:54:00,000 --> 01:54:03,080
Speaker 7: teams with rotation chances. A lot of his opportunities have

2198
01:54:03,120 --> 01:54:05,560
Speaker 7: been garbage time through his career, so it's still a

2199
01:54:05,600 --> 01:54:08,160
Speaker 7: lot of figuring it out for everybody. And I think

2200
01:54:08,240 --> 01:54:10,360
Speaker 7: they just want to see him show real solid, any

2201
01:54:10,760 --> 01:54:12,639
Speaker 7: skilled and that hasn't quite happened yet.

2202
01:54:12,760 --> 01:54:15,160
Speaker 1: Tony East joins me Java House Peel and poor guest

2203
01:54:15,200 --> 01:54:18,840
Speaker 1: line locked on Pacers Forbes, WTHR among those, and then

2204
01:54:18,840 --> 01:54:21,640
Speaker 1: of course, you know, always kind to be on this

2205
01:54:21,760 --> 01:54:25,160
Speaker 1: radio station, Tony, before we let you go, I know

2206
01:54:25,200 --> 01:54:26,720
Speaker 1: you want to get to it. You said you had

2207
01:54:26,760 --> 01:54:28,200
Speaker 1: talked to Garrison Matthews.

2208
01:54:28,200 --> 01:54:28,599
Speaker 3: Correct.

2209
01:54:29,560 --> 01:54:30,759
Speaker 7: Yeah, so we just talked him today.

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01:54:31,200 --> 01:54:33,240
Speaker 1: Anything out of that, I mean, just in terms of

2211
01:54:33,240 --> 01:54:36,800
Speaker 1: his reaction approach, et cetera. Now with you know, a

2212
01:54:36,880 --> 01:54:38,760
Speaker 1: little bit more of a deal than what he had yesterday.

2213
01:54:39,280 --> 01:54:41,520
Speaker 7: Well, I actually think his reaction is telling in a

2214
01:54:41,520 --> 01:54:45,200
Speaker 7: way that is good for a fan explanation, because, like,

2215
01:54:45,360 --> 01:54:47,400
Speaker 7: let's face it, his first Sunday was bad, right, and

2216
01:54:47,520 --> 01:54:51,240
Speaker 7: he even said when he got the second one, he said, yeah, honestly,

2217
01:54:51,240 --> 01:54:53,440
Speaker 7: I was a little surprised that they that they brought

2218
01:54:53,440 --> 01:54:56,480
Speaker 7: me in for a second, and like I think, fancy dead.

2219
01:54:56,480 --> 01:54:58,560
Speaker 7: It's like the players know when they're not playing well

2220
01:54:58,560 --> 01:55:00,760
Speaker 7: on what it feels like and things that nature. And

2221
01:55:01,040 --> 01:55:02,680
Speaker 7: he was very honest about it. And the second one

2222
01:55:02,680 --> 01:55:04,400
Speaker 7: he was much better. Like he had that fifteen point

2223
01:55:04,400 --> 01:55:06,800
Speaker 7: game against Cleveland where all the stuff that he can

2224
01:55:06,840 --> 01:55:09,360
Speaker 7: theoretically do for a good team happened. And so I

2225
01:55:09,400 --> 01:55:12,080
Speaker 7: think today he you know, really explored and kind of

2226
01:55:12,560 --> 01:55:15,280
Speaker 7: you know, talked about what happened for him on that

2227
01:55:15,360 --> 01:55:17,240
Speaker 7: second one that was so much more effective, and how

2228
01:55:17,320 --> 01:55:19,760
Speaker 7: much time matters when and when you join a team

2229
01:55:19,760 --> 01:55:22,200
Speaker 7: on a hardship because the team are joining is so injured,

2230
01:55:22,480 --> 01:55:24,800
Speaker 7: you're expecting to produce right away even though you haven't.

2231
01:55:24,920 --> 01:55:26,200
Speaker 7: You know, he might not be in shade, but he've

2232
01:55:26,200 --> 01:55:28,360
Speaker 7: been a team for all of a day, and so

2233
01:55:28,600 --> 01:55:31,080
Speaker 7: for him, that really was a detriment, right. He couldn't

2234
01:55:31,080 --> 01:55:33,560
Speaker 7: figure out where a SHOT's coming from, he wasn't making anything,

2235
01:55:33,760 --> 01:55:35,920
Speaker 7: he wasn't in perfect shape. Once he got there, he

2236
01:55:35,920 --> 01:55:37,680
Speaker 7: looked a lot more effective. They started him, he was

2237
01:55:37,680 --> 01:55:40,360
Speaker 7: providing spacing. So it's kind of hard to judge him

2238
01:55:40,400 --> 01:55:42,000
Speaker 7: because half of his time with the team was so

2239
01:55:42,120 --> 01:55:44,360
Speaker 7: poor and half he was pretty effective. And it was

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Speaker 7: you know, he was kind of getting to the bottom

2241
01:55:45,880 --> 01:55:48,280
Speaker 7: of that today of you know, how all that shaped

2242
01:55:48,280 --> 01:55:50,120
Speaker 7: for him and what he expects this could look like.

2243
01:55:50,200 --> 01:55:52,480
Speaker 7: And now he knows it's kind of a tryout, right,

2244
01:55:52,480 --> 01:55:54,440
Speaker 7: so he's got to keep trying to produce. But they

2245
01:55:54,480 --> 01:55:55,960
Speaker 7: love the shooting, and I think he knows that he

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01:55:56,000 --> 01:55:58,120
Speaker 7: can do that and make everybody's life a little easier.

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01:55:58,200 --> 01:56:02,360
Speaker 1: Hey, real quick walker Castler, Utah. I've heard a rumor

2248
01:56:02,960 --> 01:56:05,960
Speaker 1: of like interest from Indiana. Buy it or sell it.

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01:56:06,920 --> 01:56:09,440
Speaker 7: I mean, he's a great center. And it's the reason

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01:56:09,480 --> 01:56:11,480
Speaker 7: you could buy anything like that with him or Derek

2251
01:56:11,520 --> 01:56:13,400
Speaker 7: Glivey or anybody of that nature is if they're good

2252
01:56:13,400 --> 01:56:16,240
Speaker 7: and young, they fit the Pacers timeline now, and they

2253
01:56:16,240 --> 01:56:18,880
Speaker 7: fit their salary structure now. Obviously kesslern't have to be

2254
01:56:18,880 --> 01:56:21,240
Speaker 7: paid next year. But yeah, he's a good player. He's

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01:56:21,280 --> 01:56:23,480
Speaker 7: like kind of developing a jump shot, he's a great defender.

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01:56:23,560 --> 01:56:24,240
Speaker 3: Yes, he would fit.

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01:56:24,280 --> 01:56:26,120
Speaker 7: That'd be a buye And I think a lot of

2258
01:56:26,160 --> 01:56:27,960
Speaker 7: fans have said something to the effect of, oh, he's

2259
01:56:27,960 --> 01:56:30,200
Speaker 7: out for the year. That's great for the Pacers, right,

2260
01:56:30,240 --> 01:56:32,200
Speaker 7: And in theory yes kind of. I mean I think

2261
01:56:32,200 --> 01:56:33,880
Speaker 7: they'd like to see him play with their players to

2262
01:56:33,920 --> 01:56:36,160
Speaker 7: know what his fit would be. But also that's a

2263
01:56:36,200 --> 01:56:38,520
Speaker 7: good thing for the Jazz who also, I want to

2264
01:56:38,560 --> 01:56:40,240
Speaker 7: win games this year, so that would be a in

2265
01:56:40,320 --> 01:56:42,520
Speaker 7: theory perk for this year, but also makes them maybe

2266
01:56:42,520 --> 01:56:43,040
Speaker 7: harder to get.

2267
01:56:43,160 --> 01:56:44,040
Speaker 3: I will keep an eye on it.

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01:56:44,040 --> 01:56:46,320
Speaker 1: Gives us something to talk about for certain Tony appreciate

2269
01:56:46,360 --> 01:56:48,160
Speaker 1: the time as always, we'll look for your coverage in

2270
01:56:48,240 --> 01:56:50,760
Speaker 1: terms of this news today with Garrison and then of

2271
01:56:50,760 --> 01:56:53,480
Speaker 1: course tomorrow night Pacers and Sixers as well.

2272
01:56:54,040 --> 01:56:55,919
Speaker 7: Yeah, sorry for being that guys, Ah.

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01:56:55,720 --> 01:56:58,120
Speaker 1: No worries, totally appreciate it. Tony East joining us, Jaba House,

2274
01:56:58,160 --> 01:57:00,560
Speaker 1: Peel and poor guest line. All right, come back, It

2275
01:57:00,640 --> 01:57:03,840
Speaker 1: is a Thursday lot to talk about. When it comes

2276
01:57:03,840 --> 01:57:06,839
Speaker 1: to the Colts in their matchup getting set Sunday for Seattle,

2277
01:57:06,840 --> 01:57:10,520
Speaker 1: Matt Taylor, voice of the Colts, joins us next. So

2278
01:57:10,640 --> 01:57:13,320
Speaker 1: let's find out exactly that we know the big story

2279
01:57:13,360 --> 01:57:15,600
Speaker 1: of what's happened on West fifty sixth Street over the

2280
01:57:15,640 --> 01:57:19,600
Speaker 1: course of the last seventy two hours or so. But

2281
01:57:19,920 --> 01:57:21,920
Speaker 1: Matt Taylor is the voice of the Colts, joins us

2282
01:57:21,920 --> 01:57:23,440
Speaker 1: on the Java, House, Peel and Port guest line. You

2283
01:57:23,440 --> 01:57:25,840
Speaker 1: will hear Matt on the call from one of my

2284
01:57:26,000 --> 01:57:29,280
Speaker 1: favorite cities in all the land, Seattle, coming up on

2285
01:57:29,640 --> 01:57:32,640
Speaker 1: not just your Sunday Eddie. I know you love Seattle, right,

2286
01:57:32,640 --> 01:57:34,200
Speaker 1: what about Matt? Do you like Seattle?

2287
01:57:36,120 --> 01:57:38,800
Speaker 8: I don't have a really good opinion on Seattle. I

2288
01:57:38,800 --> 01:57:41,520
Speaker 8: think I've only been there like three times, and they've

2289
01:57:41,560 --> 01:57:42,480
Speaker 8: all been for Colts.

2290
01:57:42,520 --> 01:57:42,840
Speaker 3: Games.

2291
01:57:42,840 --> 01:57:45,520
Speaker 8: I did see the Eagles one time, not like the

2292
01:57:45,560 --> 01:57:48,560
Speaker 8: Philadelphia Eagles, but like the band the Eagles. I saw

2293
01:57:48,600 --> 01:57:50,600
Speaker 8: them the night before a game one time out there,

2294
01:57:50,600 --> 01:57:53,520
Speaker 8: which was awesome. They played at the baseball stadium across

2295
01:57:53,560 --> 01:57:56,360
Speaker 8: the street. So based on that, I have a really good,

2296
01:57:56,400 --> 01:57:57,760
Speaker 8: strong opinion about Seattle.

2297
01:57:57,840 --> 01:57:59,800
Speaker 1: You know, actually, the Eagles are an interesting story because

2298
01:57:59,840 --> 01:58:02,040
Speaker 1: they're kind of like Philip Rivers when it comes to football.

2299
01:58:02,080 --> 01:58:04,000
Speaker 1: You can check out, but you can never leave, right

2300
01:58:04,080 --> 01:58:06,840
Speaker 1: And the fact that you know here he is back

2301
01:58:06,880 --> 01:58:09,600
Speaker 1: from retirement. I want to get into that. Obviously, Matt

2302
01:58:09,640 --> 01:58:11,160
Speaker 1: and I just had to jump on the segway. But

2303
01:58:12,320 --> 01:58:15,839
Speaker 1: let's begin with the story that I think the Philip

2304
01:58:15,960 --> 01:58:19,040
Speaker 1: Rivers story kind of overshadowed, and that is the one

2305
01:58:19,080 --> 01:58:22,400
Speaker 1: of and I totally understand it. And I have the

2306
01:58:22,520 --> 01:58:27,160
Speaker 1: utmost respect for Shaverarius Mooney Ward and the decision to

2307
01:58:27,160 --> 01:58:29,959
Speaker 1: put him on IR because of going into the concussion

2308
01:58:29,960 --> 01:58:32,960
Speaker 1: protocol for the third time. I would hope that all

2309
01:58:33,000 --> 01:58:38,560
Speaker 1: fans understand the legitimacy of something like that and the

2310
01:58:38,840 --> 01:58:43,160
Speaker 1: respect of when it is concussions and multiple ones, you know,

2311
01:58:43,680 --> 01:58:45,280
Speaker 1: you don't mess around with that stuff, is what I'm

2312
01:58:45,280 --> 01:58:49,000
Speaker 1: getting at. But from a football standpoint, what does that

2313
01:58:49,160 --> 01:58:51,960
Speaker 1: mean for the Colts now without Sauce Gardner as well

2314
01:58:52,440 --> 01:58:53,720
Speaker 1: and their defensive backfield.

2315
01:58:55,080 --> 01:58:57,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, you're going to be playing with guys like Jalen

2316
01:58:57,520 --> 01:59:01,680
Speaker 8: Jones and Makai Blackman coming up on sun Day. And

2317
01:59:01,720 --> 01:59:04,400
Speaker 8: that's a huge storyline in this game because the Colts,

2318
01:59:04,400 --> 01:59:06,720
Speaker 8: I mean, Louis and Rumo talked about it on Tuesday

2319
01:59:07,160 --> 01:59:09,760
Speaker 8: when he met with reporters. You know, the biggest things

2320
01:59:09,800 --> 01:59:12,440
Speaker 8: the Colts have to start cleaning up on defense is

2321
01:59:12,480 --> 01:59:15,040
Speaker 8: they got to get more pressures up front. They got

2322
01:59:15,080 --> 01:59:17,440
Speaker 8: to stop giving up too many big plays in the

2323
01:59:17,480 --> 01:59:20,240
Speaker 8: passing game. We looked it up today. The Colts have

2324
01:59:20,320 --> 01:59:24,600
Speaker 8: given up twenty two completions over fifteen yards in the

2325
01:59:24,680 --> 01:59:28,400
Speaker 8: last three games, and they only have six sacks combined

2326
01:59:28,440 --> 01:59:30,480
Speaker 8: in the last three games. And even that's kind of

2327
01:59:30,520 --> 01:59:35,760
Speaker 8: distorted because the Colts got goose egged against shoot who

2328
01:59:35,760 --> 01:59:39,120
Speaker 8: they played last week. I'm drawing a blank. It's been Jacksonville. Yeah,

2329
01:59:39,120 --> 01:59:40,880
Speaker 8: it's been kind of a blur with this whole story.

2330
01:59:40,960 --> 01:59:43,000
Speaker 3: I was about to jump in and say Houston, so yeah,

2331
01:59:43,200 --> 01:59:45,240
Speaker 3: I'm with you right right, But.

2332
01:59:45,240 --> 01:59:49,120
Speaker 8: I mean, no quarterback hits, no quarterback pressures or sacks

2333
01:59:49,160 --> 01:59:51,760
Speaker 8: by the Colts pass rush last week. Now they are

2334
01:59:51,800 --> 01:59:54,920
Speaker 8: getting to Forrest Buckner back this Week's that's going to

2335
01:59:54,960 --> 01:59:58,160
Speaker 8: be a huge eight. Huge eight, I should say up front,

2336
01:59:59,240 --> 02:00:02,360
Speaker 8: but it's really because you're going up against Jackson Smith

2337
02:00:02,400 --> 02:00:05,200
Speaker 8: and jackba who leads the NFL and receiving yards. He's

2338
02:00:05,200 --> 02:00:09,240
Speaker 8: a big play machine. They've got Rashid Shaheed who's also

2339
02:00:09,320 --> 02:00:12,600
Speaker 8: a dynamic player on offense, in on special teams. And oh,

2340
02:00:12,600 --> 02:00:14,600
Speaker 8: by the way, the last time he played the Colts,

2341
02:00:14,960 --> 02:00:17,320
Speaker 8: I think he's still running. He had three catches for

2342
02:00:17,360 --> 02:00:20,080
Speaker 8: one hundred and fifty three yards and a fifty eight

2343
02:00:20,160 --> 02:00:22,400
Speaker 8: yard touchdown in that game against the Colts back in

2344
02:00:22,440 --> 02:00:25,040
Speaker 8: twenty twenty three with the Saints. So he's been a

2345
02:00:25,120 --> 02:00:28,040
Speaker 8: huge acquisition for them coming over at the trade deadline,

2346
02:00:28,360 --> 02:00:30,920
Speaker 8: but the biggest part of Sam Darnold's.

2347
02:00:30,400 --> 02:00:32,240
Speaker 6: Resurgence the last two years.

2348
02:00:32,560 --> 02:00:35,360
Speaker 8: And by the way, he is twenty four and six

2349
02:00:35,480 --> 02:00:38,640
Speaker 8: record wise since last year when he took over as

2350
02:00:38,640 --> 02:00:40,440
Speaker 8: the starter with the Minnesota Vikings.

2351
02:00:40,640 --> 02:00:41,720
Speaker 6: It's his deep ball.

2352
02:00:41,880 --> 02:00:44,080
Speaker 8: They are throwing the deep ball with him, and he

2353
02:00:44,200 --> 02:00:47,040
Speaker 8: is incredibly accurate and he loves to do it. He

2354
02:00:47,160 --> 02:00:51,360
Speaker 8: leads the NFL in completions over twenty five yards since

2355
02:00:51,400 --> 02:00:53,920
Speaker 8: the start of last season. So when you're playing up

2356
02:00:54,560 --> 02:00:56,920
Speaker 8: playing against I should say, a quarterback like that who

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Speaker 8: has the willingness to do it and the weapons on

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Speaker 8: the outside to accomplish it, and you're down your two

2359
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Speaker 8: starting quarterbacks. That's the concern for the Colts. Those guys

2360
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Speaker 8: are going to play a huge part in the Colts

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Speaker 8: success and hopefully they, you know, tone that down a

2362
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Speaker 8: little bit in the defensive secondary on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Matt oddly enough, because it's not a team that jumps

2364
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Speaker 1: out at you. And you know, I think we know

2365
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Speaker 1: that at their ceiling. You know, we know how high

2366
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Speaker 1: flying Buffalo can be, and we know how dynamic Philadelphia

2367
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Speaker 1: can be, and et cetera. But if you look at

2368
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Speaker 1: balance and ways in which a team can win and

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Speaker 1: control the pace of a game, is Seattle the bet

2370
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Speaker 1: win healthy the best team in the NFL right now.

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Speaker 8: I think you're so spot on on that. I'm glad

2372
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Speaker 8: you brought that up. I mean, they are so balanced

2373
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Speaker 8: and so good on both sides of the ball. I

2374
02:01:46,480 --> 02:01:49,320
Speaker 8: mean they're number two in scoring offense, number two in

2375
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Speaker 8: scoring defense. And another thing that's really important is that

2376
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Speaker 8: they're winning in the passing game on both sides of

2377
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Speaker 8: the ball. Like I said, uh, Seattle really loves to

2378
02:02:00,280 --> 02:02:02,760
Speaker 8: push it with Sam Darnold. They're number one and yards

2379
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Speaker 8: per attempt on offense, and they're number one and yards

2380
02:02:06,320 --> 02:02:08,640
Speaker 8: per attempt on defense, and they're giving up like an

2381
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Speaker 8: under eighty passer rating to the opposition. So it's really

2382
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Speaker 8: concerning how good they are on both sides of the ball.

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Speaker 8: Plus you're playing them there at Seattle loom In Field,

2384
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Speaker 8: where that place is just architecturally built to you know,

2385
02:02:23,520 --> 02:02:26,440
Speaker 8: keep the noise in and keep it centered on the field.

2386
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Speaker 8: I mean, this is I mean, I think Philip Rivers

2387
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Speaker 8: obviously is getting a lot of the pub and the

2388
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Speaker 8: attention this week, and rightfully so, considering that storyline and

2389
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Speaker 8: how unique that it is. But let's not forget who

2390
02:02:37,400 --> 02:02:39,640
Speaker 8: the Cults are actually playing. It's a ten to three

2391
02:02:39,680 --> 02:02:43,280
Speaker 8: team that's incredibly balanced. They've got stars on both sides

2392
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Speaker 8: of the ball, and the cultu are just desperate to

2393
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Speaker 8: get a win and try to you know, they're eight

2394
02:02:48,880 --> 02:02:51,440
Speaker 8: and five right now, trying not to squander that's seven

2395
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Speaker 8: to one start.

2396
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Speaker 3: Matt.

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Speaker 1: It's funny you mentioned Jacksonville, because when you go back

2398
02:02:55,280 --> 02:02:57,360
Speaker 1: and look at that game, Matt Taylor, my guest voice

2399
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Speaker 1: of the coltsures on the Jaba House peel and poor

2400
02:02:58,960 --> 02:03:04,160
Speaker 1: guest line, you look at what the Colts defensively struggled

2401
02:03:04,160 --> 02:03:06,800
Speaker 1: to do with Trevor Lawrence, he had I think thirty dropbacks,

2402
02:03:06,800 --> 02:03:07,879
Speaker 1: he was not pressured.

2403
02:03:08,240 --> 02:03:11,080
Speaker 4: They did not get a sack, And it's easy.

2404
02:03:10,760 --> 02:03:14,960
Speaker 1: To pinpoint towards and probably right to pinpoint towards. Hey,

2405
02:03:15,040 --> 02:03:18,280
Speaker 1: you know, granted Buckner's not out there, but Liatu Latsu

2406
02:03:18,360 --> 02:03:20,080
Speaker 1: and Quitty pay and you know, why are these guys

2407
02:03:20,120 --> 02:03:24,520
Speaker 1: not getting pressure? How much of that, though, is because

2408
02:03:25,040 --> 02:03:29,840
Speaker 1: you were down essentially two corners and you are and CJ.

2409
02:03:29,880 --> 02:03:33,200
Speaker 1: Strout has quick release, so as a result, you weren't

2410
02:03:33,240 --> 02:03:36,640
Speaker 1: able to get any sort of coverage sacks. How symbiotic

2411
02:03:36,720 --> 02:03:42,040
Speaker 1: are those two areas of a defense for that statistic, Yeah.

2412
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Speaker 8: I mean I think they go hand in hand, especially

2413
02:03:43,960 --> 02:03:46,800
Speaker 8: within this defense with lou An Arumo, that wants to

2414
02:03:46,800 --> 02:03:50,560
Speaker 8: be aggressive, that wants to dictate things in the secondary

2415
02:03:50,640 --> 02:03:53,400
Speaker 8: to the opposition. You know, they want to be afforded

2416
02:03:53,440 --> 02:03:57,080
Speaker 8: the ability to play press man demand and shut down

2417
02:03:57,120 --> 02:04:00,560
Speaker 8: people on the outside, and that will cren eight more.

2418
02:04:01,280 --> 02:04:03,840
Speaker 8: Uh you know, uh, you know, I say shadow of

2419
02:04:03,840 --> 02:04:07,040
Speaker 8: a doubt if you will within the pocket by the quarterback,

2420
02:04:07,080 --> 02:04:09,800
Speaker 8: and that gives more time for the pass rush to

2421
02:04:09,840 --> 02:04:14,200
Speaker 8: get home. And I've said this before, and I don't

2422
02:04:14,480 --> 02:04:16,440
Speaker 8: know if this makes sense to anybody else, but it

2423
02:04:16,480 --> 02:04:18,760
Speaker 8: makes sense to me. I think the Colts have the

2424
02:04:18,840 --> 02:04:22,640
Speaker 8: ability to play press man to man without makaib excuse me,

2425
02:04:22,680 --> 02:04:26,320
Speaker 8: without Sauce Gardner and no Charvarius Ward, who by the way,

2426
02:04:26,400 --> 02:04:28,120
Speaker 8: Ward's not going to be out there for the rest

2427
02:04:28,160 --> 02:04:30,920
Speaker 8: of the season, the regular season because he's got he's

2428
02:04:30,960 --> 02:04:33,200
Speaker 8: on IR for a second spint, so he's gonna miss

2429
02:04:33,240 --> 02:04:36,280
Speaker 8: the last four games of the season. But I think

2430
02:04:36,360 --> 02:04:39,080
Speaker 8: Jones can do it. I think Blackman can do it.

2431
02:04:39,080 --> 02:04:41,520
Speaker 8: It's just it's not whether they can do it, it's

2432
02:04:41,640 --> 02:04:44,760
Speaker 8: it's it's it boils down to their willingness to do

2433
02:04:44,840 --> 02:04:47,960
Speaker 8: it with loui Ane Rumo not having those you know,

2434
02:04:48,040 --> 02:04:52,720
Speaker 8: traditional all pro shutdown corners with Ward and Gardener out there.

2435
02:04:52,760 --> 02:04:55,440
Speaker 8: So that's what I'm really eager to see how it

2436
02:04:55,480 --> 02:04:58,160
Speaker 8: all plays out on Sunday. Is you know, if you're

2437
02:04:58,200 --> 02:05:00,240
Speaker 8: gonna sit back and play strictly.

2438
02:05:00,120 --> 02:05:03,520
Speaker 6: Own with you know, Shaheed and Smith.

2439
02:05:03,200 --> 02:05:06,080
Speaker 8: And Jigba I got I got bad news. It could

2440
02:05:06,120 --> 02:05:09,080
Speaker 8: be a long day for that secondary. So maybe they

2441
02:05:09,120 --> 02:05:10,720
Speaker 8: have more of a willingness to do it in a

2442
02:05:10,760 --> 02:05:14,160
Speaker 8: game like this to give themselves a chance against one

2443
02:05:14,200 --> 02:05:16,080
Speaker 8: of the best receiving cores in the NFL.

2444
02:05:16,480 --> 02:05:20,520
Speaker 3: Matt lastly, look, and I'm not going to put you

2445
02:05:20,600 --> 02:05:24,520
Speaker 3: in the position to make this declaration. I think, do it.

2446
02:05:24,920 --> 02:05:27,040
Speaker 3: Just do it. Go ahead, I don't even care. Took

2447
02:05:27,120 --> 02:05:27,640
Speaker 3: me into a.

2448
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Speaker 4: Corner, Philip Rivers starting Sunday.

2449
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Speaker 8: I think so, I think so look at that.

2450
02:05:33,960 --> 02:05:36,320
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, right, that's just my gut.

2451
02:05:36,440 --> 02:05:38,440
Speaker 8: I mean, it really is. That's my gut. I mean,

2452
02:05:39,200 --> 02:05:41,320
Speaker 8: you know, we you can kick this around a million

2453
02:05:41,400 --> 02:05:43,800
Speaker 8: different ways. I just think it all boils down to

2454
02:05:43,840 --> 02:05:46,720
Speaker 8: the fact that the Cults are eight and five and

2455
02:05:46,800 --> 02:05:49,600
Speaker 8: they they so desperately need to get a win and

2456
02:05:49,680 --> 02:05:52,400
Speaker 8: again try not to squander that seven and one starts.

2457
02:05:52,920 --> 02:05:54,840
Speaker 8: And you know, believe it or not, And I thought

2458
02:05:54,840 --> 02:05:57,080
Speaker 8: the Indie Star guys did a really good job of

2459
02:05:57,080 --> 02:06:00,400
Speaker 8: it today. I want to champion their hard work on

2460
02:06:00,440 --> 02:06:02,560
Speaker 8: it because you know, we we can sit here and

2461
02:06:02,600 --> 02:06:04,480
Speaker 8: talk about it in the big picture, Okay, you know,

2462
02:06:04,520 --> 02:06:07,760
Speaker 8: it's it's December, it's week fifteen. The trade deadline has

2463
02:06:07,840 --> 02:06:11,080
Speaker 8: come and gone, Like, what's your best option? Who you're

2464
02:06:11,080 --> 02:06:13,280
Speaker 8: going to bring in that's better than Philip Rivers? And

2465
02:06:13,800 --> 02:06:15,600
Speaker 8: you know, they did a really good job of actually

2466
02:06:15,600 --> 02:06:19,120
Speaker 8: like putting some context around. I think they unneursed the

2467
02:06:19,160 --> 02:06:21,360
Speaker 8: fact that you know, since the beginning of the season,

2468
02:06:21,880 --> 02:06:24,880
Speaker 8: there's been sixteen quarterbacks that have been brought in around

2469
02:06:24,880 --> 02:06:29,800
Speaker 8: the NFL for tryouts, and of those sixteen, only six

2470
02:06:29,880 --> 02:06:33,240
Speaker 8: have ever started a game in the regular season. So

2471
02:06:33,320 --> 02:06:35,800
Speaker 8: I mean, like you get you follow what I'm saying,

2472
02:06:35,880 --> 02:06:40,680
Speaker 8: Like the pickens are pretty slim. And you know, Philip Rivers,

2473
02:06:41,080 --> 02:06:42,840
Speaker 8: I understand that, you know, he's been out of the

2474
02:06:42,840 --> 02:06:45,280
Speaker 8: game for so long, he's forty four years old, and

2475
02:06:45,320 --> 02:06:47,800
Speaker 8: he's a grandfather and all of these things. But he,

2476
02:06:48,000 --> 02:06:50,480
Speaker 8: you know, basically invented this offense that the Colts are

2477
02:06:50,520 --> 02:06:52,760
Speaker 8: running right now and knows it like the back of

2478
02:06:52,800 --> 02:06:55,160
Speaker 8: his hand, and is you know, basically best friends with

2479
02:06:55,200 --> 02:06:58,280
Speaker 8: Shane Stichen. And so you know, you from a mental

2480
02:06:58,320 --> 02:07:02,440
Speaker 8: standpoint and uh a football IQ acumen perspective, you give

2481
02:07:02,440 --> 02:07:04,080
Speaker 8: yourself a pretty good chance to win.

2482
02:07:04,840 --> 02:07:06,440
Speaker 6: It just boils down to whether or not.

2483
02:07:06,480 --> 02:07:08,960
Speaker 8: He can navigate the pocket and not take hits and

2484
02:07:08,960 --> 02:07:12,080
Speaker 8: not turn the football over. So again, if you were

2485
02:07:12,120 --> 02:07:15,440
Speaker 8: two and whatever, then probably Riley Leonard plays. But you're

2486
02:07:15,480 --> 02:07:17,880
Speaker 8: eight and five trying to make the playoffs, and you've

2487
02:07:17,880 --> 02:07:20,640
Speaker 8: got to give yourself the best chance historically to win

2488
02:07:20,680 --> 02:07:21,120
Speaker 8: this game.

2489
02:07:21,360 --> 02:07:22,440
Speaker 6: And I think that's why.

2490
02:07:22,280 --> 02:07:24,280
Speaker 8: My gut tells me it's probably going to be Philip River.

2491
02:07:24,440 --> 02:07:28,760
Speaker 1: Do you think that Philip Rivers is starting if they thought?

2492
02:07:29,200 --> 02:07:32,040
Speaker 1: In other words, is this about Riley Leonard injury or

2493
02:07:32,120 --> 02:07:35,600
Speaker 1: Riley Leonard simply not being ready necessarily to in this

2494
02:07:36,040 --> 02:07:37,920
Speaker 1: and no knock on him, he's a young player, right,

2495
02:07:38,800 --> 02:07:40,520
Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying, Right, is it the injury

2496
02:07:40,600 --> 02:07:42,600
Speaker 1: or is it just, hey, we think this guy gives

2497
02:07:42,680 --> 02:07:45,640
Speaker 1: us a better chance because he's better suited for the situation.

2498
02:07:46,800 --> 02:07:49,360
Speaker 8: I think it's just about the experience of Philip Rivers,

2499
02:07:49,440 --> 02:07:51,680
Speaker 8: and it's about the master of the offense and his

2500
02:07:51,760 --> 02:07:54,960
Speaker 8: relationship with Shane Stike. And again they're eight and five,

2501
02:07:55,080 --> 02:07:57,040
Speaker 8: not five and eight. That's what I think is boiled

2502
02:07:57,080 --> 02:07:57,320
Speaker 8: down to.

2503
02:07:57,600 --> 02:08:00,240
Speaker 1: Yep, all right, Matt, appreciate it. Best of luck or

2504
02:08:00,240 --> 02:08:01,800
Speaker 1: not best of luck. I mean, you know what you're

2505
02:08:01,800 --> 02:08:04,400
Speaker 1: doing best of enjoyment in Seattle, because I love it.

2506
02:08:04,440 --> 02:08:06,240
Speaker 1: I think Seattle's a I know you're in and out

2507
02:08:06,240 --> 02:08:08,280
Speaker 1: there on a work trip, but it is a fabulous city.

2508
02:08:08,480 --> 02:08:10,640
Speaker 4: But appreciate the time is always safe travels.

2509
02:08:10,320 --> 02:08:12,400
Speaker 8: All right, all right, appreciate you guys.

2510
02:08:12,440 --> 02:08:14,360
Speaker 3: All right. Matt Taylor joining us on the Java House

2511
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Speaker 3: peelingpor guest line.

2512
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Speaker 1: get to number one again, want to point out and

2537
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Speaker 1: not to belabor the point, but.

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Speaker 3: To move gosh, what is it? I mean?

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Speaker 1: Over ten radio stations from you know where we were

2540
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Speaker 1: on Monument Circle and again this radio station along with

2541
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Speaker 1: B one oh five, Hank FM, and WIBC, we were

2542
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Speaker 1: the four stations that were owned by MUSC Communications when

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Speaker 1: we were acquired some I don't know two two and

2544
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Speaker 1: a half years ago by Radio one, and at that

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Speaker 1: time the Radio one building, which is on the near

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Speaker 1: north side of Indianapolist just outside of downtown off of

2547
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Speaker 1: Meridian Street. Radio one had their own existing radio stations

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Speaker 1: and in order to accommodate for this new you know

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Speaker 1: Brady Bunch family of radio stations, we were working and

2550
02:10:18,520 --> 02:10:20,800
Speaker 1: staying in the MS building until they could get this

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Speaker 1: building ready to go, and so we made the move yesterday.

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Speaker 1: And you know, it's a pretty arduous task for the

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Speaker 1: engineers and for the folks that are getting everything situated

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Speaker 1: and ready. You're talking about all of the people that

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Speaker 1: are coming over from sales and promotion and business aspect

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Speaker 1: and marketing, all of it all. Moving from one location

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Speaker 1: to the next is a tall, tall task, and certainly

2558
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Speaker 1: it was a pleasure and an honor to broadcast from

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Speaker 1: Monument Circle and to do so in our old building

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Speaker 1: which was a beautiful facility, and now moving into this one.

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Speaker 1: There are a number of people from the engineer standpoint

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Speaker 1: that have worked tirelessly to get this building ready to go,

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Speaker 1: and they deserve a huge thank you and a huge

2564
02:11:08,440 --> 02:11:10,360
Speaker 1: typ of the cat for getting us in here to

2565
02:11:10,440 --> 02:11:12,880
Speaker 1: broadcast in what is now for a lot of them

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Speaker 1: their previous home and for us a new home. So

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Speaker 1: appreciate that. Also wanted to point out got a message

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Speaker 1: yesterday from Firefly formerly the Children's Bureau and their hope

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Speaker 1: for the holidays. You have heard me promoting it a lot,

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Speaker 1: and if you need the link, they are still accepting

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Speaker 1: those that would like to sponsor a child or a

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Speaker 1: family for the holidays. And these are often very modest requests.

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Speaker 1: You know, kids that have been in situations where they've

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Speaker 1: been displaced, They were at a home where mom and dad,

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Speaker 1: something took place where Child Protection Services has intervened, and

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Speaker 1: they are living at Firefly until the situation results itself

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Speaker 1: or family Services.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: Firefly has been around for over one hundred and seventy

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Speaker 1: years and they've helped out families and children and families

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Speaker 1: of need for nearly two centuries now in the state

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Speaker 1: of Indiana. But families can also sign up for if

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Speaker 1: they need that help at Christmas, and oftentimes it's kids

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Speaker 1: that want socks, a T shirt, you know, clean thing,

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Speaker 1: you know I had somebody one time. One of their

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Speaker 1: Christmas wish lists was a bottle of body wash. You

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Speaker 1: think about that, right, And they make it very simple

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Speaker 1: for you to go and they have the Amazon wish

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Speaker 1: list right there. You can click on it, you can

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Speaker 1: make a donation and you can have it sent directly

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Speaker 1: to Firefly, or you can get it yourself and then

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Speaker 1: drop it off with a drop off point. But they

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Speaker 1: still have just over three hundred of those that children

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Speaker 1: or families that are looking to be adopted and sponsored

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Speaker 1: and supported for the holidays, So certainly wanted to point

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Speaker 1: that along. If you need the link to find out

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Speaker 1: how you can become involved in sponsor a child or

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Speaker 1: a family and the way that they have set it up,

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Speaker 1: then certainly I will pass that along. If you want

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Speaker 1: to text me three one seven five to two three

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Speaker 1: ninety two eighty eight is my cell phone number. That's

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Speaker 1: three one seven five to two, three ninety two eighty eight.

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Speaker 1: All right, John is up next and we will get

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Speaker 1: it out to him again. Thank you on the program today,

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Speaker 1: Tony East for discussing with us and explaining the situation.

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Speaker 1: Garrison Matthews now on a standard contract with the Pacers

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Speaker 1: and Jeremiah Robinson Earl has been waived to make room

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Speaker 1: for that. Thanks to Brian Nuber for coming on and

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Speaker 1: not only as he does in an uncanny sense, having

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Speaker 1: a fun self deprecating humor and playing along with things,

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Speaker 1: but also explaining to us just Purdue Minnesota, recapping it

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Speaker 1: from last night and then looking forward with the Braden

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Speaker 1: Smith and the injury to the hand and what that

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Speaker 1: may mean. Matt Taylor, voice of the Colts joining us,

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Speaker 1: talking about Philip Rivers, that silver lining, if you will,

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Speaker 1: about Daniel Jones and what this means and helping out

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Speaker 1: the Colts for next year. We will get more into

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Speaker 1: that probably tomorrow. And thank you to Jeff for calling

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Speaker 1: in and being the first to do so on the

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Speaker 1: new system. So for Eddie Garrison and for everybody working

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Speaker 1: hard here. John is up next at the mouse trap.

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Speaker 1: You have plenty of time to get out, and I

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Speaker 1: thank you for listening to Query and Company.