1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: Continue to dominate the news is Minnesota. It is a 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: complete dumpster fire, is specifically Minneapolis, and things are spiraling 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 1: out of control very quickly. And how can you have 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: any confidence in any of these people. We're not just 5 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: talking about whether you agree with their policies or not, 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: whether you agree with specific actions they've taken, whether it's 7 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: economic development, or it's tax policy or whatever it might be. 8 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: Reasonable people can disagree from one topic to a next. 9 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 1: Reasonable people can come to different conclusions on the best 10 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: path of action. 11 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 2: I'm not talking about any of that. 12 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: What I'm talking about Let's just look at Minnesota as 13 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: an example, whether it's their governor or this mayor of Minneapolis, 14 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: the mayor of Minneapolis, who are about to hear from 15 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 1: Jacob Fray. When you hear these people talk Tim Walls, 16 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: Jacob Fray, you hear them and go. 17 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 2: Are these people serious? 18 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 3: Like? 19 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,959 Speaker 1: Is this some episode of Impractical Jokers or that all 20 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: Ashton Kochers show where somebody's gonna pop up from behind a. 21 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: Bush and laugh at me? 22 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: Go aha, it's a reality TV show. Sadly, it's not 23 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: a reality TV show. These are people who are legitimately 24 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: running or at least in charge of, or at least 25 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: espoused to be in charge of, in this case, the 26 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: largest city in the state of Minnesota, and you can't possibly. 27 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 2: Take them series. 28 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: Here is the mayor of Minneapolis saying that the police 29 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: in Minneapolis will not work with ICE who are there to. 30 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 2: Vet out to arrest, to apprehend. 31 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: People who are committing a crime by being in this 32 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 1: country illegally. 33 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 4: Take a listen, look what our policy says is that 34 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 4: I don't want our police officers spending time working with 35 00:01:55,160 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 4: ICE on immigration enforcement, because why, that's not our prime job. 36 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 4: You know what I want our police officers doing. I 37 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 4: want them stopping murders from happening. I want them preventing carjackings. 38 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:09,679 Speaker 4: And by the way, they're doing a hell of a 39 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 4: job right now. We've only had two shootings in Minneapolis 40 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 4: this whole year, and by the way, fifty percent of 41 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 4: them we're from ICE. So I want our officers focusing 42 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 4: on safety. You know what I don't want them doing. 43 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 4: I don't want them spending a single second hunting down 44 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 4: a father who just dropped his kids off at daycare, 45 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 4: is about to go work a twelve hour shift, who 46 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 4: happened to be from Ecuador. 47 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 2: That guy. 48 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 4: That guy, he makes Minneapolis a better place and I am. 49 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 2: Proud to have him in our city. 50 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 5: Again. 51 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: How do you hear this if you're a resident of Minneapolis, 52 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: one of the few normal ones left, or if you 53 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: are a resident state of Minnesota, one of the few 54 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: normal ones left. But even if we extrapolate this across 55 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: the country, this guy is in charge of a major 56 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: metropolitan city. He has a huge impact on hundreds of 57 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: thousands of people's lives, on economic development, and you hear 58 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:12,239 Speaker 1: him saying with no shame whatsoever, going on a national 59 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: television show in this case, Jacob Ray was on Meet 60 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: the Press, and you hear this and say, you have 61 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: a federal law enforcement group who is there for the 62 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:26,399 Speaker 1: purpose of finding and apprehending people who broke into the country, 63 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: who entered the country illegally, who committed a crime by 64 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: coming here, And yet he is saying with a straight 65 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: face that basically, those guys are the problem. And I'm 66 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: going to tell my police department, whose job should be 67 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: to keep people safe. You would think identifying and apprehending 68 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: people who are in the country illegally would be a 69 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: huge part of keeping people safe. And yet he says, nah, 70 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: We're not doing that, all right. So they also asked 71 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: him on meet the press about the fraud that's been 72 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: going on in Minnesota, and listen to this. 73 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 2: He goes out of. 74 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: His way basically to try to. 75 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: Not put the blame on Walls. 76 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: Tim Walls, the governor of Minnesota, who's clearly in charge 77 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: while this stuff was going on and clearly had at 78 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: best zero interest in knowing about it. At worst, he 79 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: was complicit in it. But then he claims everybody could 80 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: have done more. Well, who is everybody? The government was 81 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 1: in charge, the state of Minnesota was in charge of 82 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: delegating these dollars, and Tim Walls, as the governor of Minnesota, 83 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: is the de facto ceo. He also Jacob Fray, who 84 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: you'll hear in this clip, is very upset that people 85 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: are labeling this as a Somali problem. Newsflash, it was 86 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: predominantly some Maali's who were involved in the daycare fraud. 87 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 6: Take a listen, let me ask you about the leadership 88 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 6: in your state. Dozens of people in Minnesota have been 89 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 6: charged and convicted with stealing millions of dollars of taxpayer 90 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 6: money for government programs. Do you think Governor Walls did 91 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 6: enough to stop the fraud in your state, and do 92 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 6: you support his decision not to run for reelection. 93 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 4: Well, look, Governor Walls is the reason that we've got 94 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,119 Speaker 4: paid family leave in Minnesota. He's the reason we've got 95 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 4: free school lunches. Him and I we've been through thick 96 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 4: and thinck, But did he. 97 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 6: Do enough to combat fraud over these times? Did he 98 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 6: do enough to combat fraud? 99 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 4: Look, obviously everybody could have done more to prevent fraud. 100 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 4: And I think that's a fair point to make do 101 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 4: more to prevent fraud. And you look what he's doing 102 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 4: right now. He's setting up a whole bunch of infrastructure 103 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 4: to do that. And by the way, look, the fraud's real. 104 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 4: We've all got acknowledge that the fraud is very real. 105 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 4: And by the way, when somebody commits fraud, and there 106 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 4: are many that have done that, you investigate it, you charge, 107 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 4: you prosecute, And yet you put the person in jail 108 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 4: as an individual. You put the person in jail as 109 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 4: an individual. You do not hold an entire community, any community, 110 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 4: accountable for the actions of individuals. 111 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 2: Okay, a couple things with this. 112 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: Number One, your state created the boundaries by which the 113 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: fraud was allowed to happen tim the Democrats control everything 114 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: in Minnesota. Democrats created the environment by which this was 115 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: allowed to happen if Democrats had been remotely on it. Look, 116 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: people try to commit crimes all the time, and a 117 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: lot of times they're able to get away with it. 118 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,119 Speaker 1: But when you say, okay, we're in charge of everything. 119 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 1: That's why I get so frustrated with the Republicans here. 120 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: People way say, well, why are you so mean to 121 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: the Republicans? What about the Democrats. Well, other than Indianapolis, 122 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: which we certainly on the regular talk about what a 123 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: dumpster fire Indianapolis is, which is controlled by Democrats. Republicans 124 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: control everything here. Everything that happens happens under the watch 125 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: of Republicans in Indiana because they're in charge. They have 126 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: all the state wide offices, they have supermajorities. 127 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 2: In the House and Senate. 128 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 1: Who else am I going to talk about all of 129 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: these policies, whether it's the Holy Corrupt IEDC or the 130 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 1: Medicaid debacle, or the tax increases or the failure and 131 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: property taxes or whatever it is. The only people you 132 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: can look to is the Republicans because they're in charge. 133 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 2: It's the same thing. In Minnesota, the. 134 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: Democrats were again at best completely completely irresponsible, derelict in 135 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: their duty to oversee these programs, so that would rest 136 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: on them, And it looks more and more like as 137 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: the days go on that they were completely complicit in this. 138 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: It was part of a legalized vote buying operation. So 139 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: when you see that and this, it wasn't Look. My 140 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: daughter is two and a half years old, and she 141 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: one of her favorite words is uh oh, and sometimes 142 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: she will do things on purpose, like turn the television 143 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: off and then look at me and go uh oh. 144 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: And what we say to is we say no, Olivia, 145 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: if you do something on purpose, it wasn't an all. Oh, 146 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: it wasn't an accident. You don't get to say oh 147 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: if you do it on purpose. And in the case 148 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: of Minnesota and Minneapolis, whether it's allowing these lunatics to 149 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: control the city and fight with ice that we're seeing 150 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: now or across the state, this mass daycare fraud from 151 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: predominantly smallly individuals, the government, Tim Walls or Jacob Frey, 152 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: the mayor of Minneapolis. 153 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 2: Don't get to say uh oh because you've known. 154 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: It's going on and you're not doing anything, or you 155 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: weren't doing anything to stop it. All right, let's take 156 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: a break. It's Kennlly Casey Show. When we come back. 157 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: Something very serious came down last night. It could have 158 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: a profound impact on the economy. It appears that the 159 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 1: head of the Federal Reserve, Jerome Palell, is under indict 160 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: under potential in diamond, under investigation, under criminal investigation over 161 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: testimony that he gave to the United States Congress. We 162 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 1: will hear from Jerome pal He is addressing this head on. 163 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: We'll play that part you when we come back. Kennelly 164 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: Casey Show, ninety three WIBC. So there was a big 165 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: announcement last night and it could have a profound impact 166 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:04,719 Speaker 1: on the US economy. 167 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 2: It's the kendalln. Casey Show. Okay. 168 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: So Jerome pal is the chairman of the Federal Reserve. 169 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: For those of you who don't know, and I mean 170 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: you could spend a week trying to explain the Federal 171 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 1: Reserve to people. But essentially they control money policy in 172 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: this country, things like how what your interest rate is 173 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: if you get a loan for a automobile or a house. 174 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: I mean, they do a variety of things. They are 175 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: arguably the most important player in the US economy, and 176 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 1: Jerome Palell has been at odds with Donald Trump, especially 177 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 1: since he took office again. By the way, Jerome pale 178 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: was appointed by Donald Trump in his first term, he 179 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: has served under both Republicans and Democrats as the head 180 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: of the Federal Reserve. He is a Republican and though 181 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: the past year, Trump has been very upset with Jerome 182 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 1: Palell because he has refused to lower interest rates at 183 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 1: the rate at which Trump has desired the job. One 184 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: of the primary jobs of the Federal Reserve is to 185 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: balance employment and inflation. They try to find a balancing 186 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: act between the two of those. So if you have 187 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:17,559 Speaker 1: full employment, you would typically see interest rates be higher 188 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: because you want money to matter. Money should matter in 189 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: this country, and every time you print more money, every 190 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: time you make it easier to get money, the money 191 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 1: matters less. And so that is one of the primary 192 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: jobs of the Federal Reserve is to balance employment and 193 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: making sure the economy is thriving and policies that promote 194 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 1: that along with making sure money has meaning, the money 195 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: has value, and to not let inflation get out of control. 196 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: So pal has angered Trump by refusing to lower interest 197 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: rates at the rate he has wanted. Why because Trump, 198 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: even though he won't acknowledge it publicly, common sense tells 199 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: us tariffs have a negative impact on the economy. And 200 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: Douke economist Michael Munger, one of the leadingonymous in the country, 201 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: will be with us next hour to explain this. And 202 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 1: so Trump has tried to cover this by lowering interest rates, 203 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: which would make people more active in the economy, borrow 204 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: more more money, spend more money, et cetera. And one 205 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: of the things at the same time that has been 206 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: happening is there has been this major renovation of the 207 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: Federal Reserve and it is a multi billion dollar endeavor 208 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: and Jerome pal it has gone way over budget. Aha, surprise, surprise, 209 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 1: a federal government project has gone way over budget. And 210 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: Jerome pal last year gave testimony about this project end 211 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: up being over budget and that money was being spent. 212 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: And recently, over the past several months, there has been 213 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: a push by President Trump, amongst others, for Jerome Palell 214 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: to be criminally investigated over the testimony that he gave 215 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: to the US Senate. And now Jerome Palell has came 216 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: out in a preemptive strike and is said last night 217 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: that he is indeed under a criminal investigation and he 218 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: is concerned that he could possibly be indicted. 219 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 2: Here's what Jerome Palell had to. 220 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 7: Say good evening. On Friday, the Department of Justice served 221 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 7: the Federal Reserve with grand jury subpoenas threatening a criminal 222 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 7: indictment related to my testimony before the Senate Banking Committee 223 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 7: last June. That testimony concerned, in part, a multi year 224 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 7: project to renovate historic Federal Reserve office buildings. I have 225 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 7: deep respect for the rule of law and for accountability 226 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 7: in our democracy. No one, certainly not the Chair of 227 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 7: the Federal Reserve, is above the law. But this unprecedented 228 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 7: action should be seen in the broader context of the 229 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:50,719 Speaker 7: administration's threats and ongoing pressure. This new threat is not 230 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 7: about my testimony last June, or about the renovation of 231 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 7: the Federal Reserve buildings. It is not about Congress's oversight rule. 232 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 7: The Fed, through testimony and other public disclosures, made every 233 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 7: effort to keep Congress informed about the renovation project. Those 234 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 7: are pretexts. The threat of criminal charges is a consequence 235 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 7: of the Federal Reserve setting interest rates based on our 236 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,199 Speaker 7: best assessment of what will serve the public rather than 237 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 7: following the preferences of the president. This is about whether 238 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 7: the Fed will be able to continue to set interest 239 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 7: rates based on evidence and economic conditions, or whether instead 240 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 7: monetary policy will be directed by political pressure or intimidation. 241 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 7: I have served at the Federal Reserve under four administrations, 242 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 7: Republicans and Democrats alike. In every case, I have carried 243 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 7: out my duties without political fear or favor, focused solely 244 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 7: on our mandate of price stability and maximum employment. Public 245 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 7: service sometimes requires standing firm in the face of threats. 246 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 7: I will continue to do the job the Senate confirmed 247 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 7: me to do with integrity and a commitment to serving 248 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 7: the American people. Thank you. 249 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 2: Okay. 250 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: So this is a massive issue because this guy is 251 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: a major player in the economy, and the markets did 252 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: not respond favorably to this because once again, just like 253 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: with the tariffs, it is throwing a huge amount of 254 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: uncertainty into the market. It also and look, if the 255 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: guy committed a crime, he committed a crime. But if 256 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: we're going to be upset about government projects running over budget, 257 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: which we should be, Hello, Welcome to the Kendall and 258 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: Casey Show. That's sort of the premise of what we 259 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: do here, we bitch about government being unaccountable with your money. 260 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: There's a long list of people that are going to 261 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: end up behind bars. This certainly appears very selective, and 262 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: it appears that he is being targeted for not doing 263 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: what Trump wants. And we as a country, if we're 264 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: going to have a federal reserve, and that's certainly its 265 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: own discussion about what we need to do with money, 266 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: policy and money in this country and who oversees it. 267 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: But if we're going to have a federal reserve, we 268 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: all have a vested interest in the federal reserve being 269 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: independent of the whims of any politician, whether it's Joe 270 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: Biden or Donald Trump or whoever, and do what is 271 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:20,359 Speaker 1: best to have that balancing act of inflation versus employment. 272 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: So we'll keep an eye on this, we'll see what 273 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: happens going forward. Again, Look, as we've said on this 274 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: program numerous times related to stuff happening here locally, a 275 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: grand jury does not mean an indictment. An indictment does 276 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: not mean a conviction. And this could be a whole 277 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: bunch of stuff about nothing. An investigation could come and 278 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: they say everybody goes home. But certainly something to keep 279 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: an eye on all right, let's take a break. When 280 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: we come back, hey, we'll give you a little update 281 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: on on Casey and how she's doing and what's going 282 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: on with her. And then we also are going to 283 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: start playing some audio from we sent producer Jason for 284 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: and producer for Tony Katz down to du Bois County 285 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: to find out just exactly what's going on with the 286 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: super controversial, very expensive Mid State's Corridor project. And we're 287 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: gonna start playing you some of the audio from the 288 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: folks down there who are potentially going to be dramatically 289 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: impacted by this multi billion dollar project, and what do 290 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: they think of the governor and how he's potentially tied 291 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: into all of it. Play that coming up next, Kennell 292 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: and Casey Show, ninety three WIBC. The people in southwest 293 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: Indiana are outraged at our governor, and after you hear 294 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: what they have to say, I think you're gonna have 295 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: a hard time not agreeing with them. It's Kennell and 296 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: Casey Show. I'm rob We'll get to that here in 297 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: just a second. We're going to spend the next couple days, 298 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: parts of the next couple of days playing you some 299 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: audio from the folks down in southwest Indiana. We sent 300 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: the producer Jason down there, and Jason will actually be 301 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: with us tomorrow talking about some of these interviews that 302 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: he did. And this this, of course, all emanated out 303 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: of over Christmas break. There was this poll that came 304 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: out that showde the governor was wildly unpopular in his 305 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 1: home county and in fact, sixty two percent of people 306 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: into Boys County disapproved of the job Governor Braun was doing. 307 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: I said, wait a second, this has got to be 308 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: more than property taxes. It's got to be more than 309 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 1: utility bills. There's something serious going on here. And what 310 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: we uncovered is this all centers around bronze support for 311 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: this Mid States Corridor project, which is this multi billion 312 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 1: dollar proposal to connect I sixty four to sixty nine. 313 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: And this comes at a time or ENDOT has announced 314 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 1: over three hundred projects have been scrapped or delayed due 315 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 1: to a lack of funding, and yet they're charging forward 316 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: with this wildly unpopular project that's going to cost multiple 317 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 1: billion billions of dollars. And even the Republican head of 318 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: Transportation in the House of Representatives, Jim Pressol, said what 319 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: are we doing here? How are we canceling all these 320 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,199 Speaker 1: other projects that are that are more important, that are 321 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 1: more timely, and yet we're going forward with this thing 322 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: with all this cost we could be doing these other projects. 323 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense. And this is one of 324 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: the troubling things is it doesn't make any sense. 325 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 2: And it has led many people to. 326 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: Believe that because because the governor has been such a 327 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 1: hard proponent of this over many many years, dating back 328 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 1: to his time in the Indiana House of Representatives a 329 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: decade ago, that this this could potentially be about his 330 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 1: distributing business, his distribution business, and the money that could 331 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: be made for them off of this, because this connection 332 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: of road would make that make that job easier. And 333 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: people are outraged down there. They're very upset. It's an 334 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: issue that really, until we got a hold of it, 335 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 1: hasn't been on people's radar up here. But it should be, 336 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 1: because even though we don't live down there, that's our 337 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: money they're going to be spending if they go forward 338 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: with it. That's our money they'd be using to connect 339 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: this road. And we're, amongst others trying to get to 340 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: the bottom of this. So wanted to play you a 341 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: clip and we'll have producer Jason tomorrow and then I 342 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 1: think he's going to be with this Wednesday as well. 343 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: Talk about these people that he that he talked to, 344 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: because there's so many layers to this story, but one 345 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: piece of audio really stood out to me, and this 346 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 1: was that he talked with the guy by the name 347 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:25,360 Speaker 1: of Tom Bartelt. And Tom's a farmer down in southwest 348 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: Indiana whose farm has been in his family for one 349 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five years. And Jason talked to Tom 350 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: about the devastating impact this project would have on him. 351 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 3: Take a listen, your name and your connection to Dubois 352 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 3: County and Jasper. 353 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 5: My name is Tom Bartilt. My family's had a farm 354 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 5: south of Hettingberg for it's coming up on one hundred 355 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 5: and seventy five years. I've lived there all my life. 356 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 5: That's where I've retired to. That's where I had planned 357 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 5: to live the rest of my life. 358 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 3: All right, for one hundred and seventy five years. You 359 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 3: guys have avoided having anything like the mid States cor 360 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 3: Or Does this county need a mid State's Corridor. 361 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 5: The county needs better roads. The mid State's Corridor is 362 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 5: not the right answer. 363 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 3: What would this mean for you personally and your business 364 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 3: one hundred and seventy five years in this county? 365 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 5: Looking at the maps, I think it would probably take 366 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 5: about a fourth of my farm. One of the options 367 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 5: takes my mother's house in every single outbuilding on the farm. 368 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 5: The option that doesn't take my mother's house puts the 369 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 5: road between my house and my mother's house. My mother 370 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 5: is a little up there in years. She has an 371 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 5: emergency alert. Right now, she press the button, I get 372 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 5: the phone call. I can be at her house in 373 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 5: less than a minute. It's going to be close to 374 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 5: two miles for me to get there if the road 375 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 5: divides us, because there's not going to be a way 376 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 5: to get across the road. 377 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 3: Well, the person pushing this is a resident of Dubois County, 378 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 3: a resident of Jasper, and the governor of Indiana. Why 379 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 3: is he pushing this so hard? 380 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 5: It's going to make him money. They originally wanted to 381 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 5: do this because they were trying to pass it off 382 00:20:56,160 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 5: as a safety and congestion relief thing. They've give up 383 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 5: on that because they can't prove that. The only justification 384 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 5: they have for it is improving connectivity for trucks. And 385 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 5: improved access to multimodial facilities, which means a better road 386 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 5: for trucks. It's not a better road for du Bois County. 387 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 3: And if Mike Braun walked in here tonight and surprised 388 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 3: everybody and sat down and said, I want to hear 389 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 3: from you, what would be your message to Mike Braun. 390 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 5: My message would be, this is about a lot more 391 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 5: than a road to let trucks go through our county. 392 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 5: That's not what the people of the county want. You 393 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 5: need to listen to the people. You need to look 394 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 5: at what's best for the state. Since your governor, the 395 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 5: state can't afford this road, but they're pushing it anyway, 396 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 5: you need to rethink it. You need to look at 397 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 5: what you can do to improve the existing infrastructure to 398 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 5: get better roads here in Dubois County. 399 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 3: Would you vote for Mike Braun if you ran for 400 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 3: governor a second term? 401 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 5: Mike Braun is the only Republican governor I have never 402 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 5: voted for. I mean, I am a strong Republican, but 403 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 5: I'm not going to vote for someone who wants to 404 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 5: take my farm away from me. 405 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: Okay, So we'll have some more of that audio from 406 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: many folks. Jason was able to talk with many folks 407 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: down in Duvois County over the next couple of days, 408 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: and again, everybody should be asking themselves when you see 409 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: a project and it's a real issue here in Central India, 410 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,719 Speaker 1: Indiana and out like with these data centers. 411 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 2: When you see a project that is so wildly. 412 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: Popular in a community where there is overwhelming opposition to it, 413 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: and you can't articulate the benefits of it on a napkin, 414 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: you have to ask yourself, why is this thing going forward? 415 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: I had a conversation over Christmas break with a very 416 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: high profile person in the PR business in Indianapolis, politics 417 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 1: and government, and they reach out to me about the 418 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: data centers, And you know, I think I give a 419 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: unique perspective because not only am I in the media 420 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: we do this program, but I was an elected person, 421 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: so I understand economic development. I'm not one hundred percent 422 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 1: against abatements. I get the value of certain things. And 423 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: they asked me, they said, why are these things so unpopular? 424 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: And I said, because people don't understand them. The data 425 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: center people here in Central Indiana have yet to articulate 426 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:26,719 Speaker 1: a clear, coherent message, and the politicians as well on 427 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: what the benefit to these things are, because when you 428 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: factor in the abatements and the money, the actual cash, 429 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,719 Speaker 1: et cetera coming from the IEDC, people don't see it. 430 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 1: They don't see how They see the destruction of farm land, 431 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: they see the changing of landscape, they see the destruction 432 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 1: of generations of land and land usage. They see the 433 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: negatives that are going to come because of these things. 434 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: They don't see the positive. And the question becomes, and 435 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 1: this is where the outrage is, is why are the 436 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: politicians pushing so hard for them if they can't explain it. 437 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 1: The same thing is going on as it relates to 438 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: the Mid States Corridor and Mike Braun Mike Braun in 439 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,199 Speaker 1: DOT the people these organizations that are pushing this, you 440 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: can see where a select group of people fuel industry, 441 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: distribution industry, where those people would benefit from this thing 442 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: being in place. What the people of du Bois County 443 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: or are not seeing is how does this benefit them? 444 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 1: The people going through Dubois County aren't mostly going to 445 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: be from du Bois County. There's not going to be 446 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: a lot of economic development benefit. Certainly when you compare 447 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: it to the cost of destruction of generations of land 448 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: and land usage. Like we heard from Tom Bartel, whose 449 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: family has been that farm has been in his family 450 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: for one hundred and seventy five years. He likes his 451 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: life as it is, he likes his quality of life 452 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 1: and is going to be forced to change and his 453 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 1: land is going to be destroyed. Mike Braun and his 454 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: staff have a really bad habit of hig their head 455 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 1: in the sand and acting like things don't exist. If 456 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: it's not good news, this story is not going to 457 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: go away. The cats out of the bag, and by 458 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: the day, more and more people in Indianapolis media are 459 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: going to begin to cover it. All right, let's take 460 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 1: a break. When we come back, I'll give it right 461 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: an update on how Casey's doing. We got some audio 462 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: related to Maduro and the Democrats are threatening to shut 463 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: the government down over defunding ICE. We'll get to all 464 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: that more. Kennell Casey Show, ninety three WIBC. So the 465 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 1: Democrats are now threatening to shut the government down again, 466 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: this time over defunding ICE. So that's the thing, ninety 467 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 1: three WIBC. It's the Kendall and Casey Show. Before we 468 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: get into this, just totally ridiculous appearance by Chris Murphy 469 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: on Meet the Press. I don't want to give you 470 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 1: an update on Casey. A lot of you have been asking. Obviously, 471 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 1: Casey's been out here in twenty twenty six, and I 472 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: want to tell you the things I think she'd be 473 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: okay with us talking about, because I know many of 474 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: you love Casey and have been wondering where she's at. 475 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 1: And we said last week she's been a little under 476 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:14,439 Speaker 1: the weather, and she does remain a little under the weather. 477 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 1: She's hoping that that's going to turn the corner here 478 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 1: pretty soon and she will be back. I know she's 479 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: got some stuff going on today and hopefully she'll get 480 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 1: some good news on that, and then once she's able 481 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: to come back, she will certainly be back. So we 482 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: didn't want you to think we were hiding anything from you. 483 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: And you know she's been struggling a little bit, but 484 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: not on a death's door type of thing, but we 485 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: want to make sure sure she's one hundred percent. She 486 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: definitely wanted me to know and you to know that 487 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: she misses all of you and she loves you, guys, 488 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: and she'll get back here as soon as she can. 489 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: So if you are the praying type. We certainly encourage 490 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: you to pray for Casey and for her family, and 491 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 1: hopefully we'll see her back in here real soon. 492 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 2: So I wanted to give everybody an update on that, 493 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 2: all right. 494 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 1: So Chris Murphy, he is a Democrat senator from Connecticut, 495 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: and he was on Meet the Press over the weekend, 496 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: and a couple of pieces of monkey I wanted to 497 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 1: play for you because the Democrats are just like, it's 498 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 1: the Trump derangement syndrome, right, Like, there's so many things 499 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 1: that you can be critical of Trump on and I 500 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 1: would look at you and go, that's one hundred percent fair. 501 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 1: You got a point there, and you're going to score 502 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,199 Speaker 1: some political points with that, with that cause, or with 503 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: that case or what you're saying. But the Democrats are 504 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 1: so blinded with rage that they can't help themselves, and 505 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: they always go to the extreme. And the problem going 506 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 1: to the extreme is you expose yourself, oftentimes to be 507 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 1: in direct contrast with things you previously said, like you 508 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: so desire an outcome that you can't even find any 509 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: sense of common ground even on things that are obvious. 510 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 1: And so for Chris Murphy, Democrat from Connecticut, this is 511 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: they're talking about Maduro and getting rid of and back 512 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen he said, we. 513 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 2: Got to get rid of Maduro. 514 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 1: Obvious thing, right, Really bad dude, really bad guy. Many 515 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,959 Speaker 1: people saw him as an illegitimate president, the rigged elections. 516 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 2: You know, he was a dictator. But now he's upset 517 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 2: because Trump did it. 518 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: Trump did the thing that Maduro that Murphy wanted to 519 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: do with Maduro six years ago, seven years ago now, 520 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: and just a couple. 521 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 2: Of years ago. 522 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,439 Speaker 1: Joe Biden felt so strongly about doing that thing that 523 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 1: he upped the bounty from fifteen to twenty five million 524 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: dollars on someone capturing Maduro and bringing him to justice. 525 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: But listen to this audio and the spin. 526 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,719 Speaker 6: When confronted with that fact in twenty nineteen, you wrote, quote, 527 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 6: getting rid of Maduro is good for the United States. 528 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 6: Is Venezuela now better off without Nicholas Maduro? Do you 529 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 6: give the comp administration some. 530 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 5: Credit for that? 531 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 8: So Maduro is an illegitimate leader, Putin is an illegitimate leader. 532 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 8: That doesn't mean that it's good policy to invade those countries. 533 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 8: What we have seen over and over is that American 534 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 8: military hubris, thinking that we can impose a political reality 535 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 8: on a foreign country by force ends up making us 536 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 8: less safe. So yes, I thought that it was important 537 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 8: for America to pursue a diplomatic strategy with our Latin 538 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 8: American allies to try to force elections in Venezuela so 539 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 8: as to allow the Venezuelan people to move Maduro out 540 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 8: of power. 541 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: That is so ridiculous, the stuff that he's talking about, 542 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: how you would remove him out of power. That was 543 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: not gonna happen. You got two choices. Either you can 544 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 1: do what the US did or let the guy stay 545 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: in power. And if there are some people who said 546 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: what the US did isn't going to make us safer, 547 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: and they believe that, and that's okay, like reasonably we 548 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: will can agree or disagree, and you. 549 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 2: Can have a debate about that. 550 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: But the idea we should have done this and we 551 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: should have done that, like Maduro was just going to 552 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: be like, you're mister election official, please come on in. 553 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: Of course it was rigged. Of course the guy was 554 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: always going to win. He's a dictator. That's how it operates. 555 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: Same thing with Saddam Hussein, same thing with butin the 556 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: argument in Iraq was obviously Hey, this guy was a nutbag, 557 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: but he wasn't messing with us. And look at the 558 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 1: problem you created by getting rid of him. Now, if 559 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: the US is capable of getting rid of Maduro and 560 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: having learned from literally generations of failures at regime change, 561 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: then great, I'll be the first person to stand up 562 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: here and go that worked out really well. Certainly many 563 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: people in this country are going to be very hesitant 564 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: of that because it hasn't worked out very well. But 565 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: this guy, Chris Murphy, Democrat Senator, is completely ridiculous because 566 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: he's arguing like puffed them. He might as well have 567 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: just said, puff the magic Dragon should have come in 568 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: and taken over and been the leader of Venezuela. There 569 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: was as much chance of that happening as what he described. 570 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: You either had to do what the Trump administration did 571 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: or let the guy stay in power, which is why 572 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: Biden up the bounty to twenty five million dollars. Now 573 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: he took that, and then he said, hold my beer 574 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: on the ridiculousness because now Murphy and the Democrats won't 575 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: rule out shutting down the government over defunding ICE. 576 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 6: Are you actually willing to shut down the government over 577 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 6: these DHS proposals. 578 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 5: Well, I mean, the question is. 579 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 8: For Republicans, are they willing to shut down the government 580 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,959 Speaker 8: simply to endorse the most lawless department of allmand security 581 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 8: in the history of the country. Both parties come to 582 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 8: a discussion on the budget with priority What are. 583 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 2: We doing here? 584 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 5: Like this? 585 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 1: This is a United States senator openly saying that the 586 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 1: Democrats will consider shutting our government down if money isn't 587 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: taken away from immigration enforcement. This tells you whose side 588 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: these people are on, and darn it, I hate this 589 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: because it's why the Republicans keep getting re elected in 590 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: places like India and keep doing such a bad job governing, 591 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: because they don't fear the Democrats. 592 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 2: They know people will. 593 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: Hear that and go, hey, the Republicans are bad on taxes, 594 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: they're bad on spending. They're basically very corrupt, and they're 595 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: screwing me. But I can't have getting rid of ice 596 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: as a mainstream policy in this country. 597 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 2: We see this happen. 598 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: All the time, where the Democrats take positions to appeal 599 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: to a lunatic left base that is so far outside 600 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: the mainstream that they make themselves totally unpalatable to middle 601 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: of the road people who they would need to win elections, 602 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: and the Republicans in places like Indiana, they see that 603 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 1: and they go, well, it doesn't matter that we screwed 604 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: you on property taxes. It doesn't matter that we're screwing 605 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: you on utility bills while giving huge amounts of money 606 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: to the to the utility companies. It doesn't matter that 607 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,959 Speaker 1: we're taking hundreds of millions of dollars from you and 608 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: giving it to a essentially very corrupt quasi government entity 609 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: like the IEDC. They say, it doesn't matter what we do, 610 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: because you're gonna keep voting for us, because you know 611 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 1: what what the opportunity, what the opposition is, you know 612 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: what is around the other corner, and we're banking on 613 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: you being so afraid of that that you will keep 614 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 1: voting for us. Now, I resoundingly reject that, because I'm 615 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: not excited about slow walking myself off a volcano. I'm 616 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: not excited about walking myself into a volcano at all. 617 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: And I reject that. I reject that I have to 618 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: vote for bad government because the other side might be worse. 619 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: I refuse to reward people who screw me over and 620 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: over and over and over again, because I'm not going 621 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: to accept that. I'm not going to endorse it. I'm 622 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: not gonna say it's okay. But for the average person 623 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 1: who isn't nearly into it as I am or you are, 624 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 1: they hear this and they go that alternative is so unacceptable. 625 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: It is so outside the mainstream of the idea that 626 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: you would shut down ice that people who are catching 627 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: and apprehending people who are illegally in this country, many 628 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: of them dangerous people. And by the way, how ridiculous 629 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: is this argument that they always go to, well, he 630 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: wasn't doing anything wrong, he was dropping his child off 631 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: at school. He did something wrong by illegally entering the country. 632 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 1: That person is stealing from other people the moment he 633 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: illegally stepped foot in this country. All right, let's take 634 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: a break. Next hour, we're gonna have a fun hour 635 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 1: coming up for you, and it's gonna include a conversation 636 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: with doctor Michael Munger, Duke economist about just what's going 637 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: on with the economy because Wall Street doesn't seem to 638 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 1: match Main Street, and I want to know how we're 639 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: doing that, and a lot more. Kennilly Casey Show ninety three, 640 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:53,720 Speaker 1: IBC