Speaker 1: There is a story that is going to make national news.
Speaker 1: And it's not just about the flooding in the Midwest.
Speaker 1: And we told you about the rains yesterday. Holy cow,
Speaker 1: this has been great. People have been killed because of
Speaker 1: flying degree debris, homes have been destroyed. It has been
Speaker 1: a rough couple of days and the rain is not ending.
Speaker 1: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be with you.
Speaker 1: Were heard on WMUN in Muncie, Indiana, and had I
Speaker 1: had texted with the programmer their general manager there, Steve,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I hope you're doing all right,
Speaker 1: and he responded with I have never.
Speaker 2: Seen anything like this.
Speaker 1: There were reports of evacuations taking place because of this rain,
Speaker 1: this flooding, and there's still more rain coming. So a
Speaker 1: thought for the people who are really dealing with this.
Speaker 1: When I find some areas that we can provide some
Speaker 1: donation to, or I had some help to, we will
Speaker 1: absolutely get that get that done. But there's that story.
Speaker 1: But the story that in the city of Indianapolis, a
Speaker 1: police officer utilized the flock cameras for personal use. The
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department suspended an officer for alleged personal
Speaker 1: use of automated license plate readers. They'll always call them ALPRs.
Speaker 1: They mean flock cameras, even by another name. They mean
Speaker 1: surveillance of the people. And one abuses too many, and
Speaker 1: every camera has to be removed. And I don't give
Speaker 1: a good holy damn what the chief says or any
Speaker 1: of the officers say. You're all wrong. I don't mean
Speaker 1: to be rude. I don't want to be disrespectful. You're wrong.
Speaker 1: The cameras have to go. No, I don't trust you,
Speaker 1: end of list. I'm happy to have that fight, an
Speaker 1: actual fight, anywhere, anytime. We could do it in public,
Speaker 1: we could do it behind the scenes over cigar, doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: They all have to go. I've been saying this for
Speaker 1: a while now. One abuse is too many. But I
Speaker 1: don't come to you with that today. I come to
Speaker 1: you to say I only hope, truly hope, because to
Speaker 1: decide that you're gonna watch someone slow descent into madness
Speaker 1: and not be concerned, that is not me. We used
Speaker 1: to watch Tucker Carlson and that Fox show was out
Speaker 1: of control. It was the must watch television. It set
Speaker 1: the conversation in twenty four.
Speaker 2: Hour news cycles. What Beck had done prior.
Speaker 1: And what I wished he had been able to really
Speaker 1: do with the Blaze. And it's a whole conversation for
Speaker 1: another day. Tucker Carlson was doing in that time slot
Speaker 1: he was doing at Fox News. He set the conversation
Speaker 1: for the country, and there are very few people who
Speaker 1: have been able to do such a thing.
Speaker 2: He was doing it. He was absolutely doing it.
Speaker 1: And then of course he had got let go, and
Speaker 1: a lot of us said, what in the bloody heck?
Speaker 1: And then he started doing things on Twitter and you
Speaker 1: saw the views and the downloads. You're like, look at that.
Speaker 1: You don't need Fox. It's very possible you needed Fox.
Speaker 1: Maybe he needed the guardrails, maybe he needed the producers,
Speaker 1: maybe he needed someone to keep him in focus. When
Speaker 1: he did the interview with Vladimir Putin, people got angry
Speaker 1: with him. And I said, very clearly, and I don't
Speaker 1: change a single word, what's wrong with you?
Speaker 2: He got to go.
Speaker 1: He did an interview with the leader of Russia. You
Speaker 1: would do that interview too. You're upset you didn't get
Speaker 1: the interview. Of course you do the interview. Of course
Speaker 1: you do, and you're doing it in Russia. You might
Speaker 1: have to be, you know, a little concerned with getting home.
Speaker 2: You do the interview, of course you do.
Speaker 1: I thought nothing of it except good for him. And
Speaker 1: then he started doing videos about look how great Russian
Speaker 1: supermarkets are.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, what Russian supermarkets are so clean? And look
Speaker 2: at the prices.
Speaker 1: If you would choose a Russian supermarket over an American supermarket,
Speaker 1: that's insane. You're just being ridiculous. You're saying something just
Speaker 1: to say something. There's no way you mean it. None
Speaker 1: of it's true. That's a garbage statement. You sound like
Speaker 1: a moron. I said so, and from there it only
Speaker 1: got worse, bit by bit and piece by piece, and
Speaker 1: then came.
Speaker 2: The Israel stuff. And you don't have to like Israel.
Speaker 2: I never asked. I don't care if you like Israel
Speaker 2: or not. It means I swear to you. It means
Speaker 2: nothing to me.
Speaker 1: What's somebody else's thought process, and whether they like Israel
Speaker 1: or don't. I never asked them whether they like Greece.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: Do you like Sudan? Yes or no?
Speaker 1: I never asked, never asked if you think that Israel
Speaker 1: dragged the United States into the war. I'm sorry, that's
Speaker 1: embarrassing and it's pathetic, and all the country is governed
Speaker 1: and controlled by Israel. That's weirdo freak stuff. Sorry, we
Speaker 1: can't be friends again. And I actually tried. I had
Speaker 1: some old email addresses of his. I tried to reach.
Speaker 2: Out to him. What are you doing?
Speaker 1: They all got bounced back. They were older, and I
Speaker 1: admit they all got bounced back and slowly. He has,
Speaker 1: of course allowed the dissent into madness and the guest
Speaker 1: that he has on having Hunter Biden, was it for me?
Speaker 1: You're gonna try and real bailitate Hunter Biden. He's still
Speaker 1: gonna lie about the laptop from hell. You're gonna buy
Speaker 1: into this, not going to be a part of this.
Speaker 1: He's gonna You and him are gonna have a conversation
Speaker 1: about how much you enjoy and really.
Speaker 2: Respect Candace Owens.
Speaker 1: Candace Owens, who has not met a single falsehood regarding
Speaker 1: the assassination of Charlie Kirk that she can't embrace.
Speaker 2: And mouth kiss. She could say anything she wants about.
Speaker 1: The assassination of Charlie Kirk and deal with the ramifications thereof.
Speaker 1: But can we all agree that it has been proven
Speaker 1: that she is engaged in a drum amendous number of falsehoods.
Speaker 1: I think that's easy and obvious, an easy thing to
Speaker 1: understand and obvious for everyone to see.
Speaker 2: But having Biden on and having uh, the these, uh,
Speaker 2: the these, Churchill was the problem. Guys. I'm out. I'm out.
Speaker 2: And he has slowly been going into this dissent.
Speaker 1: And then you're gonna sit there with Joe Kent and
Speaker 1: uh and Thomas Massey, Marginie Taylor Green, you're gonn talking
Speaker 1: about how you're gonna save the country. Yeah, not not
Speaker 1: for me, thank you very much. And then comes this,
Speaker 1: and then comes this right here, This got posted by
Speaker 1: Joel Melbray from Tucker Carlson Show. Tucker engaged in a
Speaker 1: conversation that Ben Shapiro.
Speaker 2: Is a government creation.
Speaker 1: This.
Speaker 3: We're not playing this to suggest that Ben Shapiro was
Speaker 3: like a shaper of history, a mover in American politics.
Speaker 3: He's not. He's an employee like most everybody else. He's
Speaker 3: doing what he's told. He represents larger interests. Obviously, so it.
Speaker 1: Is acceptable to say that you, Tucker, are controlled by Qatar.
Speaker 1: You're paid by Guitar, you're owned by guitar. You are
Speaker 1: a puppet of Qutar. I Actually, if I take a
Speaker 1: look at you in these videos, I can actually see
Speaker 1: Quitar's hands moving.
Speaker 2: It must be really deep, probably up to the elbow.
Speaker 2: Is this what we do now?
Speaker 1: Ben Shapiro is a government creation of Israel, and Lord
Speaker 1: only knows who else. This is a serious conversation that
Speaker 1: Tucker is having.
Speaker 3: So why bother to replay and then rebut something that
Speaker 3: Ben Shapiro said, well in an effort to speak to
Speaker 3: the people who put him.
Speaker 2: Up to it.
Speaker 3: So the whole pointing to Ben Shapiro, And there is
Speaker 3: a point to Ben Shapiro. This is not like some
Speaker 3: organic phenomenon like Ben shapiroer was just so charming and
Speaker 3: brilliant that he somehow got into Harvard Law School and
Speaker 3: then eyebrows and all emerged as a social media titan.
Speaker 2: No, of course not.
Speaker 3: Ben Shapiro had a deal with Facebook, a deal no
Speaker 3: one else got. And so the point of Ben Shapiro was.
Speaker 1: Maybe he got a deal nobody else got. But can't
Speaker 1: the same exact thing be said about you. You're an
Speaker 1: invention of some government entity. You had what was it,
Speaker 1: the CIA, daddy and the money this and all that.
Speaker 2: Well, you think you're so smart, so Bret, is it.
Speaker 2: We'll go back to it. Everything you said, can he
Speaker 2: be easily applied to you? Is this what we do?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 3: Here's a way to send a very specific message, to
Speaker 3: outline and sell a very specific worldview to young people.
Speaker 3: Ben Shapiro is an old person's idea of a young person.
Speaker 3: He is a spokesman for a group of older people.
Speaker 3: So gamed a young was not a real person. Let's
Speaker 3: get Ben Shapiro. This guy, Ben Schaber, he's brilliant, He's
Speaker 3: a really promising young kid, and we'll get him to
Speaker 3: sell free market economics in a robust Reaganite foreign policy
Speaker 3: to the young folks.
Speaker 1: You're right, because nobody has ever said, hey, I like
Speaker 1: your message, let me help you build that.
Speaker 2: That's never happened.
Speaker 1: It's like no one's ever said, hey, I like your product,
Speaker 1: let me help you build that.
Speaker 2: That doesn't happen. What kind of argument is this?
Speaker 3: And by the way, I kind of worked for a
Speaker 3: while thanks to the trans movement, which you suspect they
Speaker 3: also kind of concocted this same group. But whatever wherever
Speaker 3: that came from. For a while, Ben Shapiro seemed like
Speaker 3: he was on the side of common sense and he's
Speaker 3: for free speech, and he's against the trans lunacy, et cetera,
Speaker 3: et cetera. But always from day one, the point was
Speaker 3: Ben Shapiro is going to sell this very specific version
Speaker 3: of economics, not capitalism. It bears no resemblance to anything
Speaker 3: Adam Smith advocated for, but the kind of modern American
Speaker 3: monopoly arrangement where six countries companies can behave like countries,
Speaker 3: have sovereignty on like our own nation, and control every
Speaker 3: part of your life through debt.
Speaker 1: So the argument from Zucker Carlson is they got this
Speaker 1: jew for the money stuff.
Speaker 3: I had said that, right, I said that right, which
Speaker 3: is kind of broad but fairly accurate definition of our
Speaker 3: current economic system. So sell that, and then sell the
Speaker 3: even harder to pitch idea that it's unpatriotic to oppose
Speaker 3: wars for Israel. Like, first of all, it's obviously antisemitic.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just an expression of hate. If you
Speaker 3: don't want to regime change some country you can't find
Speaker 3: on a map, obviously you're a bigot.
Speaker 2: You're basically a Nazi. In fact, you must be for Hitler.
Speaker 3: You probably are opposed the Second World War two Probably
Speaker 3: a problems with Churchill. It's literally immoral to oppose BENJ.
Speaker 3: Shapiro's employers foreign policy.
Speaker 1: The immorl part is saying that Ben Shapiro has employers
Speaker 1: and handlers. It's just stupid to think that church Shill
Speaker 1: was the problem, not Hitler.
Speaker 3: But it's also an American like, this country was founded
Speaker 3: to fight wars for Israel. That's why we're here. I mean,
Speaker 3: our founder said explicitly America exists as a Judaeo Christian
Speaker 3: country to support Israel. Okay, so whatever whatever prime minister
Speaker 3: of that country wants, we're doing.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's why we're here.
Speaker 3: So if you're against it, you don't believe in America,
Speaker 3: you're against America, why don't you just leave? Maybe we'll
Speaker 3: revoke your green CARDO don't have a green card, wills
Speaker 3: trip your citizenship. And that's what ICE exists to do. Now,
Speaker 3: in any case, you should know watching this that these
Speaker 3: are not just Ben Shapiro's opinions the extent he actually
Speaker 3: has opinions, who knows, but these are the opinions of
Speaker 3: the people who prop up Ben Shapiro, who created Ben Shapiro,
Speaker 3: And this is what they think. This is the argument
Speaker 3: they sincerely believe. Apparently is going to appeal to young
Speaker 3: people who are worried about the price of burrito, price
Speaker 3: of burritos.
Speaker 2: It's over, kids, it's over. Tucker's over.
Speaker 1: No one can seriously quote him and expect a response
Speaker 1: other than.
Speaker 2: My gosh, you need Jesus.
Speaker 1: And I don't know anybody who needs Jesus more than
Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson.
Speaker 2: It was a good run.
Speaker 1: I really wish you the best, and I hope you
Speaker 1: find the help that you need, and maybe that is Jesus.
Speaker 2: Whatever it is, I hope you find it in that
Speaker 2: right soon. This is Tony Katz today.