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Speaker 2: Joe hog Set, why would he do that?

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Speaker 1: And so it comes to the primary, right, And you

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Speaker 2: Again. As bad as that was, here's the.

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Speaker 7: Do you think ICE should be abolished? I mean, let's

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Speaker 7: And frankly Christinome and you know, leadership of ICE should

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Speaker 1: They had this oversight hearing on the Somali fraud, and boy,

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Speaker 8: Back in Washington. Just the left the oversight hearing on Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you think nine billion was going to daycare

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Speaker 1: Well, and it goes back to these ideas what they

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 3: Part of the issue with giving unfettered, unrestricted oversight of

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Speaker 3: But it overlooks the possibility that we have seen in Minnesota,

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Speaker 1: Now, this will never happen, because this never does happen.

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Speaker 9: Democrats took money from our kids. Democrats took money from

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Speaker 9: Held accountable by House Republicans, and that's exactly what we're

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Speaker 3: Also, let's modulate this a bit, rob because of course

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Speaker 1: A local elected official has essentially been locked out of

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Speaker 2: Ninety three WIBC.

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Speaker 1: He's an elected official who's trying to give his constituents

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Speaker 1: Ninety three WIBC. It's the Kendall and Casey Show join

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Speaker 2: Now, yeah, I didn't stutter.

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Speaker 1: The guy has been essentially locked out of town hall

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Speaker 1: Okay, And I think it's very portant to point out

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Speaker 1: I think these other communities are going to eventually come

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Speaker 2: Nothing political about it.

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Speaker 1: Democrats can sign it, Republicans can sign it, Libertarians.

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Speaker 10: Absolutely, this is you know, I decided to lead the

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Speaker 10: This is just giving a voice, a bigger voice, to

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Speaker 10: And if they want to be a city, they have

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Speaker 1: at this nine years. This may be the most egregious

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Speaker 1: governmental action I've ever heard. But before we get to that.

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Speaker 1: As I mentioned, you've gotten quite a bit of publicity. See,

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Speaker 1: hanging out with me has its advantages. And in fact, yesterday,

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Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people are covering this. This

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Speaker 1: is very interesting. It's of the public interest right right,

447
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Speaker 1: And yesterday our news gathering partners at WISH TV did

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Speaker 1: a big expose on you and this this city initiative.

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Speaker 6: They did it was great.

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Speaker 10: So I invited the reporter Malia to town hall and

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Speaker 10: we did the interview in the council room. Again, this

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Speaker 10: is not political. This is myself, as a sitting elected

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Speaker 10: town council member, promoting a possible referendum that's right in November.

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Speaker 10: Not unlike our past council president Travis to Shane did

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Speaker 10: with the tash Mahalal aquatic pool.

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Speaker 1: Well, yes, so he gave the we call him Lord

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Speaker 1: Travis on this Lord Travis, and Lord Travis did. He's

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Speaker 1: the guy, of course who tried to weaponize the police

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Speaker 1: on me at the meeting that one time for asking

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Speaker 1: you were there, you were there for out things, get

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Speaker 1: on the agenda. Yes, but he did the same thing

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Speaker 1: you did. You told the reporter, you said, hey, this

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Speaker 1: is a matter of public interest. I'm on the council.

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Speaker 1: I'm leading this initiative. Please come to the town hall.

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Speaker 1: I'll be happy to talk with you about it. That

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Speaker 1: sort of makes sense. There's a track record of people

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Speaker 1: doing this with reporters. And then before the meeting you

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Speaker 1: were called into the back room.

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Speaker 10: No, this was after the meeting. Okay, so we had

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Speaker 10: a council meeting last night. Let me just say that.

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Speaker 1: Well, they shot you in the back after the meeting,

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Speaker 1: after it because they didn't want you to address it

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Speaker 1: while the meeting was going on.

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Speaker 2: And that's even better.

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Speaker 10: Yes, so you know, just to say real, real quick.

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Speaker 10: The interview was great. It was basic questioning why does

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Speaker 10: this matter to you? Why do you think this is

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Speaker 10: good for the town? Was the process everyone's seen.

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Speaker 2: This wasn't some campaign event.

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Speaker 10: I didn't solicit anything. I just answered questions and they

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Speaker 10: were very non political. Now, we had a council meeting.

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Speaker 10: I have a regular business meeting last night.

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Speaker 1: Nobody said anything to you before the meeting. There was

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Speaker 1: not some big Glenn you.

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Speaker 10: Nobody said anything to me, Robin. And that's how I

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Speaker 10: knew something was wrong. Because these people who I usually

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Speaker 10: say hi to each individual person, there might be some handshakes,

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Speaker 10: there might be some pleasantries exchanged. Nobody would look me

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Speaker 10: in the eye, nobody spoke to me. I'm like, all right,

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Speaker 10: these government people.

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Speaker 2: And we talk about this all the time in this program, they.

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Speaker 1: Are the biggest gutless, spineless, weasel cowards imaginable. And it's

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Speaker 1: clear now this is even better. They didn't want you

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Speaker 1: saying something publicly about it. So meeting, it's a quick

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Speaker 1: meeting thing wraps up what happens next.

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Speaker 10: So we signed the paperwork. I'm about to walk out,

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Speaker 10: and then the new council president Ben Lacy.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's pause on who this guy is, because, by

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Speaker 1: the way, let's point out that as of this weekend,

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Speaker 1: as of in fact, a couple of days ago, last

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Speaker 1: time I checked, the former council president, Travis to Shane,

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Speaker 1: according to the state website, still has an active protective

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Speaker 1: order against him. He does, okay, So that was the

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Speaker 1: guy who was just running the town. Because I want

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Speaker 1: to point out when I'm about to tell people what

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Speaker 1: they did to you, these are the people that are

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Speaker 1: sitting in judgment of you. So the previous president, according

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Speaker 1: to state website, has an active protective order against save.

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Speaker 2: According state website.

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Speaker 1: The guy who's now the council president, Been Lacey, not

511
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Speaker 1: all that long ago was under a I believe it

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Speaker 1: was an entire year long state police investigation over allegations

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Speaker 1: of potential conflict of interest that he didn't disclose a

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Speaker 1: building next to a property the town paid four million

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Speaker 1: dollars to purchase and demolish.

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Speaker 2: That's the right, same Been Lacy, Right. That is okay,

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Speaker 2: very good.

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Speaker 1: So what did the now Brownsburg Town Council president, who

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Speaker 1: not all that long ago was under state police investigation

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Speaker 1: for potential conflict of interest violation?

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Speaker 2: What happened with him?

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Speaker 10: So before leaving, I was asked by the president to

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Speaker 10: come and see him in the back. And when I

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Speaker 10: went back, like how it goes in the mafia, right right, exactly,

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Speaker 10: That's kind of how it felt like. So it was myself,

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Speaker 10: President Lacey, the town manager, and the town attorney.

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Speaker 2: Oh, and.

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Speaker 10: I was told and basically that you know, I shouldn't

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Speaker 10: have done what I did.

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Speaker 1: Wait, wait when you say didn't underta By the way,

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Speaker 1: Glenn Adams and Brownsworth Town Council is our guests do

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Speaker 1: the interview with our news gathering partners WISH TV. Correct, Right,

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Speaker 1: I should not have talked to the media about a

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Speaker 1: public event that will impact the town.

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Speaker 10: I shouldn't have done it in town in the council room.

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Speaker 1: But the previous council president, who, by the way, according

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Speaker 1: to state website, has an active protective order still against him,

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Speaker 1: Travis Toshane, he did an interview in the town hall

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Speaker 1: about a public interest just a couple months ago, right.

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Speaker 10: A little bit longer than that. But yes, but you

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Speaker 10: should not have done that. I should not have done that.

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Speaker 10: I was told that that.

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Speaker 6: So they watched the video.

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Speaker 10: There's cameras in there, of course, sure, and they saw

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Speaker 10: how the reporter came in the front door, looked to

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Speaker 10: her right, walk down the hall, she was able to

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Speaker 10: get in. Well, I was there. I let her in,

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Speaker 10: and they thought that my wife was there too. Is

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Speaker 10: actually my daughter that came to watch. And we were

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Speaker 10: in there for maybe all of ten minutes at the

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Speaker 10: very most. And I was told that in order from

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Speaker 10: me to use that room like that, I have to

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Speaker 10: have the permission of two of my colleagues, So two

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Speaker 10: council members and the unelected town manager that works for

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Speaker 10: the council.

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Speaker 1: Whoa, whoa, So you got you are the boss of

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Speaker 1: the town manager. But you, as an elected official doing

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Speaker 1: an interview with witnesses by the way of public importance

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Speaker 1: to the community, you have to ask permission from two

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Speaker 1: of your colleagues who are your equals, and the town

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Speaker 1: manager who's unelected, who works for you.

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Speaker 2: And this ordinance has written where.

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Speaker 6: I haven't seen it, but I have. I did.

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Speaker 2: It's called they're pulling it out of their ask Glynn.

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Speaker 6: Exactly it's written.

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Speaker 10: I believe that they're making this up as they go along.

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Speaker 10: I mean, I could be wrong, but I have asked

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Speaker 10: our town attorney for the documents that show that this

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Speaker 10: is indeed the you know, what is supposed to happen.

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Speaker 10: So as a result of conducting this interview in the

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Speaker 10: council room, I was told that my key fob would

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Speaker 10: be turned off.

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Speaker 6: I no longer have access to town hall.

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Speaker 2: Wait.

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Speaker 1: Wait, you're an elected official. You've not committed any felonious activity.

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Speaker 1: You're not on the run from the law, you're not

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Speaker 1: considered a danger to the people around you. You simply

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Speaker 1: did an interview with a member of the media, with

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Speaker 1: witnesses about an issue that is clearly based on the

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Speaker 1: hundreds of signatures You've already gotten in a short period

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Speaker 1: of time immense public interests, and for that they are cutting.

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Speaker 2: Off your keyfob, your access.

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Speaker 1: You as an elected official, can no longer access the

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Speaker 1: town hall. That may be the most ridiculous and sae

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Speaker 1: thing I've ever goodnet.

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Speaker 10: So when I walk in, I now have to check in,

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Speaker 10: you know, whereas before I can just walk in and

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Speaker 10: I have access to I mean, I can't get into You're.

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Speaker 6: A commoner like me, Glenn, exactly.

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Speaker 10: I you know, I you know, I could never access

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Speaker 10: individual offices, but I can go and see anybody that

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Speaker 10: I want to get my mail, whatever.

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Speaker 6: But now that's been cut off.

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Speaker 1: And let's face say it, it's because, well, one, you're

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Speaker 1: friends with me.

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Speaker 6: That probably has something to do with this.

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Speaker 1: And we were over we weren't jim merit this for years.

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Speaker 1: You better be ready for the smoke if you're going

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Speaker 1: to getting this friendship. But it's also because they're mad

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Speaker 1: that you're doing this issue, because they're against it because

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Speaker 1: it's going to take their power away, and you're exposing

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Speaker 1: how much people hate the way the community is being

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Speaker 1: run by these people.

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Speaker 10: You know, And that is a lot of the feedback

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Speaker 10: that you and I get. Yes, we've done some events

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Speaker 10: in town to collect signatures and that is a lot

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Speaker 10: of the feedback that we get that people are just

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Speaker 10: tired of the status quo and the way things are done.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so real quick, we want people to know how

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Speaker 1: they can get in contact with you.

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Speaker 2: There is a Facebook page and if.

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Speaker 1: People want to contact if they're mad enough about this

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Speaker 1: today an elected official who did an interview with the

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Speaker 1: media to be transparent. By the way the interviews run,

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Speaker 1: you can see it for yourself. They are so mad

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Speaker 1: that you did that and the exposure you're getting that

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Speaker 1: they have locked you out of the town hall. Your

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00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: constituent in your ward are now locked out of town hall.

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Speaker 1: How can people sign this petition? How can they find

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Speaker 1: the Facebook page? Tell us about it?

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Speaker 6: So the Facebook page is called the Brownsburg City Initiative.

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Speaker 2: Just put in your Facebook search.

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Speaker 10: Bar and that'll come up. Or you can reach me

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Speaker 10: through Councilman Glenn Adams. You can find me that way.

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Speaker 10: You can message me through either of those. I will

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Speaker 10: get in touch with you. We're going to we are

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Speaker 10: going to add events in town. Mandy's ice Cream is

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Speaker 10: hosting a petition and we might have an event there.

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Speaker 10: I'm reaching out to some other businesses today and tomorrow

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Speaker 10: to have them host petitions as well. So the purpose

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Speaker 10: of doing that is so that people, you know, if

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Speaker 10: they're driving around, they're driving past this place, they're like, hey,

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Speaker 10: I need to do this, and they can just go

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Speaker 10: in there real quick and sign.

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Speaker 1: I can't tell you just the just arrogance of these people.

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Speaker 2: The one guy who according.

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Speaker 1: To the state website so has an active protective order

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Speaker 1: against him, and then the guy who for a year

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Speaker 1: was under state police investigation, are sitting in judgment of you,

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Speaker 1: over you saying this is a public initiative. Hey mister

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Speaker 1: or miss reporter, please come talk about it. And they've

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Speaker 1: locked you out of town hall. Glen Adams, thank you,

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 6: Roy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Kittle Casey Show ninety three WIBC.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how we're gonna get all this stuff

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Speaker 1: in next hour. I mean, you've got Donald Trump saying

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Speaker 1: Todd Young should never.

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Speaker 2: Be elected office again. How do we not do that?

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Speaker 2: Story got Steven A.

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Speaker 1: Smith going berserk, oh on the Minnesota people, which is fascinating,

653
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Speaker 1: going to berserk over the Missouri Maduro stuff, which is fascinating.

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Speaker 1: You got Tim Walls comparing Ice to the Battle at Gettysburg.

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Speaker 1: We got a guy coming in who's gonna try to

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Speaker 1: break down how much money we might be losing in

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Speaker 1: corporations might be making by getting rid of the penny.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what sort of program is bringing this sort

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Speaker 1: of diversity to the table in one hour?

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Speaker 3: As one of our presidents once famously said, get ready,

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Speaker 3: now you're gonna end for a problem.

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Speaker 1: All right, we do have about a minute left, and hey,

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Speaker 1: I wanted to program remind everybody here real quick. Uh,

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Speaker 1: coming up Monday. Producer Jason formerly the Tony Katsch. A

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Speaker 1: lot of people remember him from Tony Kat's midday show.

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Speaker 1: We sent him down to Dubois County to southwest Indiana

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Speaker 1: to get some man on the street commentary about this

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Speaker 1: mid State's corridor project. We said, let's take the he said,

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Speaker 1: she said, out of the equation. Let's find out exactly

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Speaker 1: how people are feeling. And so beginning Monday, and he

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Speaker 1: got a ton of great content. Well, it's gonna it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be fire content because you picked exactly the right

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Speaker 1: guy to go about doing this. He actually does man

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Speaker 1: on the street interviews for his day job when he's

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Speaker 1: doing photography and traveling around the country, so he has

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Speaker 1: a lot of experience talking to people in these small

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Speaker 1: towns and getting their views on a variety of things. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's looking forward to it. Yeah, So, like I think

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Speaker 1: we're gonna end up having he got so much stuff.

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Speaker 1: I'm still sorting through all of it, but he got

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Speaker 1: so much stuff that I think we're in in multiple

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Speaker 1: days about this mid Day It's Corridor project and just

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Speaker 1: how pissed off people are about this multi billion dollar

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Speaker 1: project that could benefit the governor.

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Speaker 2: You got to spread it out, Rob, don't wear people out. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's what they always tell us. All Right, we'll take

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Speaker 2: a break. Stephen A.

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Speaker 1: Smith he went Berserko and Maduro and the Minnesota people,

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