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Speaker 1: I walked in today and Eddie came walking in, and

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Speaker 1: this By the way, Veterans Day, and thank you to

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Speaker 1: Elf and you played the Elf the big shoot that

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Speaker 2: We were in the middle of shooting the green Tights.

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Speaker 1: That's right, yeah, And so they And that's the other

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Speaker 1: last night Packers and Eagles. Did you watch it, Eddie?

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Speaker 1: How do you not like toffee? I don't like toffee?

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Speaker 2: When you just look at Green Bay last night, I mean,

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Speaker 2: So last night I will be on it. I forgot

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Speaker 1: Okay, I went up against Derek yesterday, not Derek Schultzho's

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Speaker 1: Ninety point nine to two was my total, narrowly defeating

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Speaker 1: Correct, correct right, and as it stands, I end up

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Speaker 1: Do you happen to have the breaking new sounder back

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Speaker 1: What do we got, Evan, what have we got?

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Speaker 1: But I love it.

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Speaker 4: That is beautiful that. I love my go to orders

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Speaker 1: I noticed what Eddie went with here. Huh eh Krene

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Speaker 1: here's here's what's beautiful about it. I can tell right

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Speaker 1: Evan, we love it as always, man, Yeah, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: I've been looking forward since you sent the email to

435
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Speaker 1: the east case Idia.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you very nice Eddy hissri and barbecue.

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Speaker 1: All right, appreciate it. Cluster truck in here when we

439
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Speaker 1: come back. We had mentioned he is a guy that

440
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Speaker 1: coached Victor Oladipo who is now in the G League.

441
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Speaker 1: But more notably, he had the television game between Indiana

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Speaker 1: and Marquette's two old schools. As a matter of fact,

443
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Speaker 1: but what did Tom Crean see out of Darren Debries

444
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Speaker 1: group that he liked and what perhaps did he see

445
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Speaker 1: that led him to believe and I'm assuming that this

446
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Speaker 1: is the case that he thinks Indiana might have seed expectation.

447
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Speaker 1: We will find out from Tom Crean of ESPN who

448
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Speaker 1: joins us next. The Indiana Hoosiers are two to zero

449
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Speaker 1: after their defeat over Marquette one hundred and seventy seven

450
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Speaker 1: over the weekend, and I mentioned that I saw them

451
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Speaker 1: in terms of their opener against Alabama A and M. Admittedly,

452
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Speaker 1: Marquette gives you a better barometer by which to judge

453
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Speaker 1: than does Alabama A and M. But one thing from

454
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Speaker 1: afar it looks like is that they have really good

455
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Speaker 1: at times lightning at a bottle type offense. They can

456
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Speaker 1: shoot from the outside and it looks to me like

457
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Speaker 1: Indiana comes down and they know prioritize what they want

458
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Speaker 1: to do, and that is get it into their shooters.

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Speaker 1: But I think what I was impressed by when I

460
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Speaker 1: saw them is their ability if the initial shot is

461
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Speaker 1: not there, to then reset in really good ball movement

462
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Speaker 1: and spacing for Indiana offensively. But Tom Crean has a

463
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Speaker 1: much more trained eye when it comes to said things

464
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Speaker 1: than do I, so I thought we would bring him.

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Speaker 1: I'm onto the program, always happy to do so. From

466
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Speaker 1: ESPN he's on the Java house. Peel and poor guest

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Speaker 1: line and coach. Let's begin with that. What were your

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Speaker 1: initial reactions when you watched Indiana and particularly in the

469
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Speaker 1: offensive set, in the way that they want to play.

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Speaker 5: Well, it was more for me because again when this

471
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Speaker 5: came up. I had none of my notes with me

472
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Speaker 5: or anything like that. They were back in Florida, and

473
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Speaker 5: I didn't know till eleven thirty Eastern time for sure

474
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Speaker 5: that I was going to do this game. So I

475
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Speaker 5: spent some more time going back through a couple of

476
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Speaker 5: the games that they'd played, just so I got even

477
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Speaker 5: a better feel for how they were playing together, because

478
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Speaker 5: I thought I had a good feel for how the

479
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Speaker 5: guys were individually based on where they were at and

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Speaker 5: their other programs. And I think what they've done is

481
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Speaker 5: they've gotten really good cohesiveness. They know what they want

482
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Speaker 5: to get. Like you just said, they can play a

483
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Speaker 5: lot of different ways. I thought early on in the

484
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Speaker 5: game they handled the pressure that Marquette was going to bring,

485
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Speaker 5: and I thought they went through that pretty easily, whether

486
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Speaker 5: it was the zone pressure by throwing it ahead. They

487
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Speaker 5: had a one turnover early and I think they kind

488
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Speaker 5: of cleaned it up from there. They handled demand pressure.

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Speaker 5: But when you watch them, I think you said it right.

490
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Speaker 5: If the first option breaks down, second term breaks down,

491
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Speaker 5: they keep moving and they keep their spacing and then

492
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Speaker 5: they do a really good job. This was clear in

493
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Speaker 5: the game to me, like they'll run their actions and okay,

494
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Speaker 5: if they don't get anything off the action, even though

495
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Speaker 5: those options may or may not be there. They do

496
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Speaker 5: a great job of flowing then off to the sides,

497
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Speaker 5: and I thought they did. I thought the way they

498
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Speaker 5: played side, you know, it's not necessarily the pistol action

499
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Speaker 5: where it's sort of had to get it back, but

500
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Speaker 5: those side screens, you know, whether it was a big

501
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Speaker 5: and a guard, whether it was a guard in a guard.

502
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Speaker 5: I think they forced some communication issues on Marquette, and

503
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Speaker 5: you can see this. They did the same thing against Baylor,

504
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Speaker 5: and they get a lot of great looks because of it.

505
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Speaker 5: Like the other thing that I think stands out to

506
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Speaker 5: this team about this team is there not a dribble dribble,

507
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 5: let's look, let's hold it type of team. It is

508
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 5: moving right, it moves off the pass, They make quick

509
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Speaker 5: decisions with the ball. I think that's a combination of

510
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Speaker 5: Darren's offense and what he's done over a period of

511
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Speaker 5: time to go with a bunch of guys that are older,

512
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Speaker 5: and that's a tricky deal. Now, you know, outside of

513
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Speaker 5: Tucker and Connor, he's bringing in guys that he's never

514
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Speaker 5: coached before. Right, So, like it's really hard to get

515
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Speaker 5: guys to understand, especially when they're used to having the

516
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Speaker 5: ball a lot. You know, like Lookerson and Connorway are

517
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Speaker 5: to how important it is that that ball moves. And

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Speaker 5: I think for a week into the season, I mean,

519
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Speaker 5: they really really show that they've got a high level

520
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Speaker 5: of understanding of that.

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Speaker 1: You know, the reality is in today's college basketball, it's

522
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Speaker 1: different than even say, you know, ten years ago in

523
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Speaker 1: the with the portal and we know that coach, right,

524
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Speaker 1: but sure what so far it's only two games. Does

525
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Speaker 1: not a season make I get that? But so far,

526
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Speaker 1: to me, what's been impressive is the fact of kind

527
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Speaker 1: of the unselfishness or the symbiotic feel that these guys

528
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Speaker 1: seem to have for one another on the floor. And

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Speaker 1: part of that I think comes with just a character

530
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Speaker 1: that you have to have when you come in, you

531
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Speaker 1: have coached, and you have recruited. How do you know

532
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Speaker 1: whether or not a guy is going to be able

533
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Speaker 1: to do that? Or do you truly not know until

534
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Speaker 1: they're there in the moment.

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Speaker 5: You've got to hit it right right now because as

536
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Speaker 5: the portal and that I've said this on your show before,

537
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Speaker 5: but my last year at Georgia was the first full

538
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Speaker 5: year of the portal, and it was the first full

539
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Speaker 5: year of the NIL And one thing that I and again,

540
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Speaker 5: we were still recruiting off the zoom, so we had

541
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Speaker 5: we were at a real disadvantage of ever getting to

542
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Speaker 5: know somebody in person. My last team had two guys

543
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Speaker 5: that ever recruited in person. But what happens is you

544
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 5: get people and this is a big, big issue. They

545
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 5: are set in their ways like they are. They are

546
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Speaker 5: content and comfort with the way they play basketball in

547
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 5: a lot of cases, whether they need to improve or not.

548
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 5: And there's more of those guys than there are, not

549
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 5: to be honest with you. But what I think I

550
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Speaker 5: see in Indiana, and again it's early, but I think

551
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 5: I see this is they've got some guys that are

552
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Speaker 5: really willing to work on what they've got to do

553
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 5: to get better. I think Connorway is going to be

554
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 5: the big key there because he's got to get better

555
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 5: on the perimeter. I mean, he's really really good at

556
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 5: getting into the lane, making plays in the lane. Like

557
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 5: I called the game last year against Kentucky when he

558
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 5: was a choy, like he's a prober, Like he can

559
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 5: really really pound the ball, get in the paint look

560
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 5: for opportunities. But I mean they've got when you've got

561
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Speaker 5: guys that are skilled, you've got guys that can shoot.

562
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Speaker 5: And I said this a couple of times in the

563
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Speaker 5: broadcast with Tucker De Breeze and Lamar Wilkerson. They can

564
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Speaker 5: back up right like they can keep going back and

565
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Speaker 5: a lot of teams, Like I said this on the

566
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Speaker 5: air too, I don't think Marquette was ready for their range.

567
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Speaker 5: And when you've got skill like that, and you've got

568
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Speaker 5: a basketball awareness, and when you've got decision making, and

569
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Speaker 5: then when you've got a kid like Connor Enright who

570
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Speaker 5: has played for Darren in the past, at Drake that

571
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Speaker 5: that's a cheat code type of deal early on, like

572
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Speaker 5: he understands what Darren wants. So now, will the team

573
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Speaker 5: continue to improve? Will they continue to get better at

574
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Speaker 5: what some of their weaknesses are, which is really.

575
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Speaker 3: Guarding the ball right now?

576
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Speaker 5: And then what is in a lot of teams in

577
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Speaker 5: the Big ten right now is that is that rim protection,

578
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Speaker 5: that defending in the paint, And those are the things

579
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Speaker 5: they're going to have to get better at. But there's

580
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Speaker 5: no doubt that the skill level that they're looking to

581
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Speaker 5: make each other better, and I think to get that

582
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Speaker 5: with a young team, I mean, I'm sorry with a

583
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Speaker 5: young program because it's a brand new program again with

584
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Speaker 5: the new players, they're older players, but that is hard.

585
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Speaker 5: And then the way they've integrated Trent Sisley is tremendous.

586
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Speaker 5: So they got a lot of really good personnel. They've

587
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Speaker 5: got a lot of skill, but they have an unselfish

588
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 5: and the Trent debris show in the first half was incredible.

589
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 5: And it wasn't just how open he was getting so

590
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 5: many different ways for shots. It was how much they

591
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 5: were looking to deliver him the ball where he could

592
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Speaker 5: do something with it. He rarely ever had to adjust

593
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 5: his hands, his feet, any of that type of stuff.

594
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 5: Because again, this is really this is a great sign

595
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Speaker 5: for this team moving forward because it certainly wasn't a

596
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 5: strength of their team last year.

597
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Speaker 3: And you don't pass the ball. They can really pass

598
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Speaker 3: the ball.

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Speaker 1: And it's interesting because you know Tucker to breeze. I

600
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Speaker 1: noticed this again when I was watching him against A

601
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Speaker 1: and M. There were a couple of shots he had

602
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Speaker 1: where he's coming off to say a curl and he

603
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: doesn't need a lot of time to have to square himself, right.

604
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know what I mean, Like he can,

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Speaker 1: He's got a real good idea of where things are.

606
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Speaker 1: I wanted your thought on this to put it in

607
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Speaker 1: a language that Indiana fans can relate to a play,

608
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Speaker 1: because these are all new guys right the for fans

609
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Speaker 1: and you tell me, feel free to tell me this

610
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Speaker 1: the dumbest thing you've ever heard. But I'm watching Connor

611
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Speaker 1: Enwright and Lamar Wilkerson and I'm thinking to myself, what

612
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: I'm seeing here is basically Aaron Craft and then a

613
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: smaller Carson Edwards and the fact that one is like

614
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: the bulldog guy that just has this tougher than dog

615
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: mentality and inright and then Wilkerson. What I like about

616
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Speaker 1: him is he reminds me of Edwards. I mentioned this yesterday.

617
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Speaker 1: He seems like a lightning in a bottle guy. You know,

618
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Speaker 1: he gets a couple of them down and then you

619
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Speaker 1: just got to keep feeding it because he's feeling it

620
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Speaker 1: and he's going to put it up from anywhere.

621
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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 1: Are those Is that a fair comparison for Indiana fans

623
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Speaker 1: to relate to? Well?

624
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Speaker 5: In a way, the end right part the defense of

625
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 5: Aaron Kraft, the thing that was so different about him

626
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Speaker 5: is that hand quickness. Obviously he had a quick mind,

627
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Speaker 5: but he had incredibly quick hands and defensively and amazing

628
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Speaker 5: how quick they were, So like, that's going to be

629
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 5: something with them, right. But as far as running the offense,

630
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Speaker 5: knowing what the offense needs, having confidence, knowing where people

631
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 5: are supposed to be, no question, and the Carson Edwards thing,

632
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Speaker 5: I'd say the difference is Wilkerson doesn't need to dribble

633
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Speaker 5: like Carson did at times to create shots for himself.

634
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Speaker 5: And I said this, like he's a four level scorer.

635
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 5: He's got the three, he's got the mid range pull up,

636
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 5: he can get to the rim with that NBA plus

637
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 5: plus range. That's like having four levels, right because he

638
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 5: can keep backing up. What they are really good at,

639
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,239
Speaker 5: and Darren's teams have been good at this is they

640
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 5: are so good at playing in those slots with handoffs,

641
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 5: with quick screens. They can score in a lot of

642
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 5: different ways and the screening angles that they can set.

643
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Speaker 5: That's something that I think Indiana fans are going to

644
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 5: like a lot of Like we had a lot of

645
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 5: movement in our offense. We shot a lot of threes.

646
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Speaker 5: We didn't shoot as much from behind the line on

647
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Speaker 5: handoffs and quick screens. You know, that's almost got some

648
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 5: motion qualities into it now, because there's so many different

649
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Speaker 5: ways that they can get you open. And what's epidemic

650
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 5: in college basketball and even in pro basketball is how

651
00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 5: many times defenders end up under the screen. They may

652
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 5: not mean to be under the screen, but because it's

653
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 5: so quick hitting, they get caught under. And guys like

654
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 5: Tucker Debreza, mar Wilkerson, I think Sicley is going to

655
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 5: be like this. Those guys can make those shots and

656
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 5: that is a huge, huge advantage early on in the season.

657
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: Tom Craney is our guest. He is on the Java

658
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: House Peel and poor guest line. Of course, you see

659
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: his work on ESPN and talking college basketball coach from

660
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: the Marquette side of things. Again, open disclaimer to my

661
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: ignorance here. I'm not as familiar. You know. I know

662
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 1: that Shaka Smart by nature, his teams are going to

663
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: guard the heck got you. I mean, that's just the

664
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: way it is. I'm not as familiar with this installment

665
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,479
Speaker 1: yet of what he has. When I see Indiana scoring

666
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: one hundred points against the Shaka Smart team, it jumps

667
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 1: out at me. As uber impressive. But is this the

668
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: typical Shaka smart defense.

669
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 5: No, And I'll tell you I saw them practice on

670
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 5: Saturday because I was in Milwaukee for FanDuel Sports Network

671
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 5: Bucks game, so I had a game Friday and Sunday,

672
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 5: and then everything changed Saturday night, you know, with the

673
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 5: Indiana game, and I went to see them practice, and

674
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 5: the practice on Saturday was incredibly impressive. I always go

675
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 5: when I'm in town there and he and he invites me.

676
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 5: I love to watch him go. And they did not

677
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 5: play the way that they practiced, and a lot of

678
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 5: it was the pressure. But the thing about Marquette and

679
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 5: where Marquet's get to get a lot better. They don't

680
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 5: have everybody's in a new role there, Like even though

681
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 5: the guys are Indiana are new, they've had roles that

682
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 5: have been substantial. Tucker to Reeves is over two thousand points.

683
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 5: Sam Alexis would have started last year when he was

684
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 5: at Florida. I thought for seventy five percent of the

685
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 5: Power five teams after after transfer. I Alexis by the way, Yeah,

686
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 5: Bailey reed, Bailey's going to be so good. He just

687
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 5: had to deal with polishes. He had two fouls in

688
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 5: the first minute and a half, I believe, and he

689
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 5: is so skilled. So what they have with those two

690
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 5: guys and what people are going to be able to

691
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 5: see all year. They are very very quick in the

692
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 5: post because they can turn, they can spin, they can pivot.

693
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 5: It's gonna be very, very hard to take those guys

694
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 5: away in a Scott and Report defense that says, Okay,

695
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 5: you got to take their left shoulder, you got to

696
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 5: take their right shoulder. They're gonna be hard to do

697
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 5: with that. And I think Alexis is gonna get better

698
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 5: as a driver because he was at Chattanooga, and Reed

699
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 5: Bailey can definitely drop off the elbows. But I don't

700
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 5: think the Marquette team was anywhere close to what it's

701
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 5: going to be because everybody in that game, the two seniors,

702
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 5: they're trying to play a substantially different role on that team.

703
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,240
Speaker 5: I mean, you take Cam Jones out of the lineup,

704
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 5: who's obviously with you guys in Indiana with the Pacers.

705
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 5: You've got Stevie Mitchell, who's in the G League. You've

706
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 5: got Tyler Kohlik and OsO Wigadaro and all those guys

707
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 5: that were mainstays for Marquette the last couple of years

708
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 5: when they were the elphers of their team right, so,

709
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 5: like they don't have anybody like that, So that was

710
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 5: a great eye opener. I think for that team, they

711
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 5: were not as good pressure wise as they are normally

712
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 5: or the way they were in practice. They didn't take

713
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 5: enough away. I thought they made some adjustments in the

714
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 5: second half. They were a little more locked in the

715
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 5: Tucker debris and then obviously Wilkerson got going. But I

716
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 5: think Marquette will get a lot better. But it's like

717
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 5: a lot of teams right now, when you're putting people

718
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 5: in different roles that they're not accustomed to. That takes

719
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 5: a lot of time in this day and age, And

720
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 5: it's not just the portal, it's just kind of society.

721
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 5: Like you've got to you got to really gain some confidence.

722
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,439
Speaker 5: And you don't get confidence because somebody tells you you're good.

723
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 5: You get confidence because you show that change in role

724
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 5: over a period of time. But that's where Indiana has

725
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 5: an advantage right now because they've got some guys that

726
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 5: are highly confident in what they do and they've proven

727
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 5: it over time that they can do it, and now

728
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 5: they're seeing the success of doing it together.

729
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,240
Speaker 1: Coach, let me ask you something that can be relatable

730
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: to listeners, even if they're not a basketball coach, or

731
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 1: even if they're not involved in sports. But for people

732
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: that whether it be going into the work and having

733
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 1: a team underneath them, or you know, whatever it may be.

734
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 1: If you're in any situation where you've got to work

735
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: with and understand people. When you were recruiting and you

736
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: were a coach and you would go into the home

737
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: of a young person and you were trying to find

738
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 1: out whether or not they could buy into and mesh

739
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 1: into what you needed done for your team, was there

740
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: a particular question that you would ask, or a particular

741
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: answer or vibe you would look for that would tell

742
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 1: you whether or not that was somebody that gave you

743
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 1: the right idea of the character you want.

744
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 5: H Yeah, And that's why the last couple of years

745
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 5: we're trying to do it off zoom and not being in.

746
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 3: Person with people.

747
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 5: In person with people and seeing them practice was so

748
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 5: difficult because you've got to really study their body language.

749
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 5: You've got to study how they are when frustration sets in,

750
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 5: and how they are when other people have successful But

751
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 5: the questions to me are this, what have you been

752
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 5: responsible for in your life that was a real sacrifice

753
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 5: that really was basketball related. Okay, like oh yeah, I

754
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 5: hit a game winner, or I was zero for five

755
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 5: and I hit a big shout. I'm not talking about that.

756
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 5: Like what have you been done? What have you done

757
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 5: in life that you were responsible for helping other people?

758
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 5: And I think you have to find different ways to

759
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 5: get to that question, right because and it's a leading question, right,

760
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 5: it's not a yes no answer. It's something that you've

761
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 5: got to get them into, get them discussing, because at

762
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:28,760
Speaker 5: the end of the day, in this day and age,

763
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 5: the last thing you want is too many independent contractors.

764
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 3: And and and they're there, man, I mean they're there.

765
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 3: And coaches they're there and.

766
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 5: Playing there's so much money involved right now, and it's

767
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 5: so easy to get caught up in the numbers. It's

768
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 5: so easy to get caught up in your stats. There's

769
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 5: so many people around you. There's and again, I think

770
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 5: it's going to get harder for coaches now because there's

771
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 5: so many players that want their agents or want their

772
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 5: family members to do the talking form. Well okay, well

773
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 5: you can do the talking for him. But at the

774
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 5: end of the day, the recruit has still got to

775
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 5: be the one that answers the questions. And I think

776
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 5: the coaching staffs that can really get into it with

777
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 5: a player from observation, from watching the body language, from

778
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 5: seeing them in different situations, but from really diving in

779
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 5: and getting a feel for what they're all about. That's

780
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 5: where Shaka Smart has done a great job, and I

781
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 5: think Darren Will, I think that entire staff will. They've

782
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 5: got good communicators on that staff. I think they'll do

783
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 5: that over a period of time. And it's just one

784
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 5: of those things, Jake, that the big business of college

785
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 5: basketball cannot overtake the responsibility that you have to figure

786
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 5: out what somebody is all about, because at the end

787
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 5: of the day, in a transactional world, which this is

788
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 5: in sports, with the money, you are still trying to

789
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 5: transform people into a program and you're helping you want

790
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 5: to transform people into a mindset of helping each other

791
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 5: be successful, and those are really really hard to get,

792
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 5: especially at the Power five level, because there are so

793
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 5: many players on a team that want to get to

794
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 5: the same place at the same time. And that's why

795
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 5: what he's doing with a group of seniors is really

796
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 5: impressive so far.

797
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: Okay, lastly, coach, and I know that, and I appreciate it.

798
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: Tom Crean is our guest. I know that you mentioned that.

799
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 1: You know, it's like the eleventh hour. You didn't even

800
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 1: realize you were going to be doing the game. Clearly

801
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: you have found a home in television and in broadcasting

802
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 1: in general. Was it, in any way, shape or formula

803
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: kind of weird? I mean to do an Indiana Marquette

804
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: game just because of the obvious, you know, the resume

805
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: of Tom green.

806
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 3: Well.

807
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 5: I never asked for it, which I look back at

808
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 5: and say, man, maybe I should have, because I know

809
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 5: I found out later I was under discussion for that game,

810
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 5: but I've never asked for a game.

811
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 3: I think I will start to do that now. But

812
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 3: the bottom line is no.

813
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,240
Speaker 5: I when I found out it was like ten thirty

814
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 5: Central time in Milwaukee. I started some work because they

815
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 5: all came up about seven o'clock Central time, and I

816
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 5: was up to like two thirty close with two thirty,

817
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,240
Speaker 5: two forty five something like that, just studying and making

818
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 5: sure because like I said, I had no notes, so

819
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 5: a lot of it was going up memory, but I

820
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 5: still wanted to have some things written. It wasn't as

821
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 5: weird as I thought it would be. Maybe if I

822
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 5: go back into assemblay haul and do a game, which

823
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 5: I hope to get to do because I'm with NBC

824
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 5: and Peacock this year too, as well as ESPN, Like

825
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 5: if I get to do that, that might be a

826
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 5: little weird for a minute, it really wasn't. I felt

827
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 5: very comfortable doing it. The fans, Jake, they were unbelievable.

828
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 5: I mean they were unbelievable to me. And I had

829
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 5: to get out right away to get back because I

830
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,280
Speaker 5: went back to do the second half because the FanDuel

831
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 5: Sports Network people were kind enough to let this happen

832
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 5: in in that late hour, so I didn't get to

833
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 5: stay as long as I would have wanted afterwards, But

834
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 5: the way people were and the clapping and the pictures

835
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 5: like that, that meant a lot. You know that that's

836
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 5: something that I hadn't been through and to get that

837
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 5: from both fan bases and to feel that, I can't

838
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 5: tell you.

839
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 3: How good that made me feel.

840
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 5: But it really wasn't weird like I kind of thought

841
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 5: it would be. In the game, just kind of got

842
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 5: right into the game and wanted to make sure it

843
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 5: was my first Game of the Year. I wanted to

844
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 5: make sure that I made some mistakes, you know, talking

845
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 5: too far into the next action and things like that,

846
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 5: but I just wanted to bring it to be a

847
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 5: good broadcast and working with Dave Obrian is fantastic. But

848
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:27,280
Speaker 5: it wasn't as weird as I anticipated when we knew

849
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 5: I was going.

850
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 3: To do this.

851
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 1: Well, it was great. It was a great game. It

852
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: was a good broadcast. Fan duel, ESPN, NBC Peacock and

853
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 1: one oh seven five to the fan. That's all the

854
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: places you can hear and see time creen right.

855
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 3: Absolutely. I always enjoyed talking to you, so coach appreciate it.

856
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 5: It's got a lot of This team's got a lot going,

857
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 5: you know what they are right now. They're in shape

858
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 5: and to play seven to seven and a half guys

859
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 5: like he did, because that wasn't always the case early

860
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 5: on in last year's team. And I think this conditioning

861
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 5: aspect of them is going to serve well because those

862
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 5: guys have a real grit and toughness about them, and

863
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 5: they overcame a team that was playing ten to eleven

864
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 5: guys and they're.

865
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 1: Like d They're like beads of water on your Winshield.

866
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: I mean literally, like you're watching them in movement and

867
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 1: it's just boom, they're all you know what I mean,

868
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 1: They're just they're one place to the next to the next. Offensively,

869
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 1: it's impressive.

870
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 5: Well, and they've got a real chance because the league

871
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 5: right now, outside of Michigan potentially Michigan State potentially, it's

872
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 5: not a great defensive pressure team in the lane. Like

873
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 5: right now, already ready in three games, I think Purdue

874
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 5: has given up seventy percent the points at the rim,

875
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 5: right like, it's it's the that's the offensive field goal

876
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 5: percentage of the opponent. Like, that's got to be something

877
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 5: to Purdue's got to get better at too. So the

878
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 5: teams that can cover that up this year, that can

879
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 5: have good rim protection, that can guard the ball, keep

880
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 5: the ball out of the middle. Marquette really got inside

881
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 5: those elbows all game. You know, if they can keep

882
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 5: showing up the things defensively at Indiana, that offense isn't

883
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:53,760
Speaker 5: going to go away.

884
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 1: Coach. We look forward to watching it and look forward

885
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: to watching your games over the course of the year

886
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: as well, and always welcome back on but appreciate the

887
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 1: time today on short notice. Again just like that game.

888
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 1: Appreciate the time.

889
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 3: Happy to do it, man, thanks a lot, Yeah.

890
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Tom Creane joining us on the Java

891
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: House Peel and poor guest line. I did have something

892
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: with the Pacers that popped into my mind. You heard

893
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: him mention Cam Jones right there. And there's something that

894
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: happened quietly in the night during the NBA Finals that

895
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: I think is going to pay dividend. I'll get into

896
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: that next. Do you know the turn it up that

897
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 1: you hear right there is actually from the recording with

898
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: Ronnie van Zant where he couldn't hear in his headsets.

899
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I knew he couldn't hear in his headphones.

900
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

901
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: I probably mentioned that every single time it's played, right,

902
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: I want you to think back, not to Sweet Home Alabama,

903
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: not to Leonard Skinnard, but if you recall when the

904
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 1: Pacers were tied at two games apiece and they had

905
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: to go back to Oklahoma City and they lost game

906
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: five to go down three games to two. They lost

907
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:02,280
Speaker 1: one twenty to one oh nine, And at the time

908
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: the next day you were thinking about it and you're like, man,

909
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,479
Speaker 1: what a you know this? This their backs against the wall.

910
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: And they got to come back here try to win

911
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: a game six. Man, what a what an opportunity they

912
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: had to go up three to one, and then the

913
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: debacle of kind of the mathrom meltdown in game four.

914
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: And when you were watching in the NBA Finals, you

915
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: were watching Pascal Siakam, and you knew that the Pacers

916
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: gave up some assets to get Pascal Siakam, including their

917
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six first round pick along with Mohave King,

918
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 1: and there was another pick involved. But the day after

919
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: that Game five in the NBA Finals, they made a

920
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: move that because they were now down three to two

921
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 1: in the NBA Finals, you didn't really think a lot

922
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: about their twenty twenty six first round pick that they

923
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: had initially sent to Toronto as part of that Pascal

924
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 1: Siakam trade. Toronto then in turn used that pick to

925
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: try to get Brandon Ingram. There was he was involved

926
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: in a trade as well with New Orleans. And what

927
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 1: happened on June the seventeenth is that the Pacers made

928
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: a deal the kind of went off radar to get

929
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:28,439
Speaker 1: back that pick that they had previously sent as part

930
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 1: of that Pascal Siakam deal. And so actually they traded

931
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: mohave King excuse me in a future pick to get

932
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 1: that first round pick back. So initially that pick was

933
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 1: part of the Siakam deal. Toronto sent that pick to

934
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 1: New Orleans, and then the Pacers used majave King in

935
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 1: a pick to get back their twenty twenty six first

936
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: round pick. They did it the day after they went

937
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: down three to two in the NBA Finals, and at

938
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: the time because the conversation was about the fact that

939
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: they had lost by eleven the night before, they were

940
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:00,760
Speaker 1: now down three games to two in the n Finals,

941
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: and theoretically that pick was like, yeah, okay, great, So

942
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 1: they got back a pick that's probably going to be

943
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: like the twenty ninth overall, the thirtieth overall, probably some

944
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,919
Speaker 1: two way players. They're going to get great whatever, wake

945
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: me up when it happens. And here we are, and

946
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, you look at it and

947
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: you go, WHOA, wait a minute. The Pacers based on attrition.

948
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 1: No Haliburton, no nim Hard for the better part of

949
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: the start of the season. No McConnell for the better part,

950
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 1: even though he's about to come back. No Matherin, no

951
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: topping all of it. When you look at where they

952
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 1: are slotted that well could be a lottery pick. And

953
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: then as we bring in Scott Agnes from Fieldhouse Files,

954
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: and Scott can feel free to disagree with me, there

955
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: are a number of things they can do with that pick.

956
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: But assuming that is going to be a high draft

957
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:55,839
Speaker 1: pick this year, my thought would be, Scott agneson you

958
00:48:55,880 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: tell me if you disagree. That gives them flex ability

959
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: not to find the next Miles Turner as I think

960
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 1: people would look at, but rather to perhaps find a

961
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 1: replacement for a Benedict Mathern, because if Matherin is about

962
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: to go into free agency as it is, or as

963
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: contracts coming up, then this gives them the ability if

964
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: they so choose, to flip Matherin into an established player

965
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 1: that becomes your Miles Turner replacement, and then you draft

966
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: the player that can become a wing role player, bench

967
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 1: player for you to eventually take the minutes that would

968
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: have been Benedict Matherins. A lot in play there. But

969
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: I think it's interesting because it kind of went as

970
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 1: a ship in the night. Now that's a storyline that

971
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: is there before us. Scott Agnes from Fieldhouse Files on

972
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: the Java House Peel and poor guest line. What say

973
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: you with all of that commentary, Scott.

974
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, hello, Jake, And great point in terms of this

975
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 6: being such a huge weapon that the front office did

976
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 6: in the midst of a playoff series. You just don't

977
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 6: normally see one action during the series and two one

978
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 6: involving one of the two teams in the finals. But

979
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 6: it was such a heavy move for them ultimately to

980
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 6: get their pick back for this upcoming season. I think

981
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 6: a lot of factors went into it, but you're right,

982
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 6: it's the flexibilability in the way in.

983
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 7: Which you could utilize it.

984
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,280
Speaker 6: And if you're New Orleans at the time, you're sitting

985
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,280
Speaker 6: there going, hey, look, the Eastern Conference is wide open.

986
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 6: The Pacers are the class of the East right now.

987
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 6: They had seen Boston and Tatum get injured, Philly who

988
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 6: knows what's up with them, Cleveland fizzled out in the playoffs,

989
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 6: and you'd think, hey, look, Pacers might be, you know,

990
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 6: one of the best teams in the league next year.

991
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 6: Therefore one of the worst picks. Let's push it down

992
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 6: the road, and in turn it looks advantageous certainly for

993
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,760
Speaker 6: the Pacers right now. And yeah, it could be mathering

994
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 6: The reality in all this is the Pacers have just

995
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 6: paid a lot of players, so it would be favorable

996
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 6: for them to get a couple of cheap players as well.

997
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,439
Speaker 6: When you also consider you might soon hear a couple

998
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 6: of years you got Jarris Walker to play pay matherin

999
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 6: what happens with him this upcoming offseason, and you have

1000
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,240
Speaker 6: to go out and go get a more costly center

1001
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 6: as well. So a number of ways they could utilize

1002
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 6: it that they rarely get a top pick. So if

1003
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 6: that holds, which it's still so very early that it's

1004
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 6: a draft that so far those that really study at

1005
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 6: Jacob been really impressed with the depth of it.

1006
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 1: I think Jerris Walker Scott is a curious case. And

1007
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: let me explain what I mean by that. Walker is

1008
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 1: starting to show that he can do. You know, the

1009
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: game is starting to finally slow down for him. But

1010
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: I feel like what Jeris Walker so far has shown

1011
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 1: is that he is a player that the system Indiana

1012
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 1: plays is beneficial for him. And I don't know that

1013
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 1: other teams would see what he is doing as immediately.

1014
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: Transcendent Baby almost be more to Indiana it would be

1015
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: to another franchy, and as a result, of that, you

1016
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 1: may not have to overpay for him to retain him,

1017
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: like you what a Matherin if you decided to go

1018
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:10,800
Speaker 1: there because Matheren looks like a guy you can plug

1019
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: in anywhere and he's going to give you twenty five?

1020
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 1: Does that make sense?

1021
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 6: It does, although I would kind of counter that. As

1022
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 6: with Matherin, he's a little bit more ball dominant, and

1023
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 6: so it depends on who's on your roster versus Jarris.

1024
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 7: He's got the size that every team covets.

1025
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 6: He's a six foot eight wing who can shoot outside,

1026
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 6: who can defend. I think he can adapt to the

1027
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:35,280
Speaker 6: system that he goes to and lean on those intangibles

1028
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 6: that he was given, whereas Mathern's a lot more of Okay,

1029
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,760
Speaker 6: let's make sure he gets enough touches, gets his shots,

1030
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 6: gets to the free throw line.

1031
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. Walker to me, do you see Walker? And I

1032
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: know he has shown it, Scott right, and you would

1033
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: have probably the numbers before me in front of you

1034
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 1: or more aware of it. Do you think of Walker

1035
00:52:56,160 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 1: as an outside shooting I'll use the word threat for

1036
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 1: lack of a better phrase, but are they comfortable with

1037
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:03,760
Speaker 1: Walker as an outside shooter?

1038
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1039
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 7: For sure?

1040
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 6: This is something that he really improved upon in his

1041
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 6: rookie year when most people weren't watching, when.

1042
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 7: He was playing in front of seventy.

1043
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 6: Five people in G League games, and now he's become

1044
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,839
Speaker 6: a forty percent three point shooter, and so yeah, I'm

1045
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:21,720
Speaker 6: very comfortable with him taking it beyond the arc whenever open.

1046
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 6: It's just obviously, like almost any player, you don't want

1047
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 6: to lean on it.

1048
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 7: You want to have that in your arsenal.

1049
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 1: By the way, I saw you there, your thoughts on

1050
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: the Boom game. I mentioned it earlier. I guess they had.

1051
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: It was explained to me that they had an issue

1052
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:41,280
Speaker 1: with the garage in terms of the ticketing for the garage,

1053
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 1: and I guess that's how I got to part free.

1054
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: But that said, your overall thoughts on the new arena

1055
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 1: and just the experience people might get that can't go

1056
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: to a PACER game but are able to go out

1057
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 1: and see the Boom.

1058
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, I thought it was a really exciting night.

1059
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 6: I think they have to be encouraged by the fact

1060
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 6: that they had basically a sellout crowd for that for

1061
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 6: their scrimmage, there were I don't know a thousand people

1062
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 6: probably for their free open scrimmage, and you never know

1063
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 6: what those things, right, Like, it's a newly established team

1064
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 6: to the market and they're finally marketing the team. It's

1065
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 6: a new name, so that might breed some unfamiliarity.

1066
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 7: And I thought, overall, the only negative I had.

1067
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 6: Heard, What's what you just referenced was the parking issues

1068
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 6: people delayed getting into the games, and I would chalk

1069
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 6: that up to, Hey, look, this is the first time

1070
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 6: for everybody, the workers, fans getting into the.

1071
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 7: Game, what time and such.

1072
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,320
Speaker 6: So once you get into the game, it's a very

1073
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 6: similar game experience. In fact, many of the people putting

1074
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,800
Speaker 6: it on are the same Pacer employees that weren't Pacer

1075
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 6: night games. And so I think it's a very affordable

1076
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 6: option here. And if this Pacer team ever gets healthy, Jacob,

1077
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,879
Speaker 6: it gets even better because you'll utilize some of those

1078
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 6: two way blits coyers that the Pacers have depended on.

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Speaker 1: Right now, you come out and see Quentin Jackson or

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Speaker 1: Taylor Peter or you know whoever it might be, right,

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Speaker 1: I Scott to me. The the other thing I was

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Speaker 1: just stunned by in a good way. We were driving

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Speaker 1: in and all of a sudden we hit all this traffic,

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Speaker 1: and I said to Shannon, I'm like, well, I don't

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Speaker 1: think this is for the game, because I don't know how

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Speaker 1: many people knew about this, and I was amazed how

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Speaker 1: many people came out for it and were aware of it.

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Speaker 1: But I also just thought, Scott, it was a perfect

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Speaker 1: opportunity and the real coup here for the Pacers for

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Speaker 1: young kids who because you know Pacer games are, it's

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Speaker 1: a lot, I mean, it's a big crowd, it's louder,

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Speaker 1: it's more expensive. Obviously, just seemed to me to be

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Speaker 1: the perfect family environment to introduce young kids to NBA

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Speaker 1: or high level basketball.

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Speaker 7: Entirely agree, and there's a number of ways here.

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Speaker 6: Cheaper tickets have about those more more in the suburbs

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Speaker 6: that you know, maybe don't have a thirty five forty

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Speaker 6: five minute drive.

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Speaker 7: Or you have to deal with the construction. It hits

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Speaker 7: a whole different market.

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Speaker 6: I think it also allows for fans adults included, to

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Speaker 6: get closer to the There's a lot of corporate seats

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Speaker 6: right in these major venues, and you can get pretty

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Speaker 6: darn close right there in this comfy, cozy, thirty four

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Speaker 6: hundred seat arena and get a good vantage point. I'm

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Speaker 6: sure Pacer players in a quiet part of their schedule

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Speaker 6: will make it down there to support.

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Speaker 7: You had several of the two way guys there for.

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Speaker 6: The open scrimmage just to watch and support, and so yeah,

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Speaker 6: I think this is gonna go over well in this

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Speaker 6: market especially.

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Speaker 7: The best thing about all this.

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Speaker 6: To me is, in addition to marketing the team Jake,

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Speaker 6: is they can have good timing of games because this

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Speaker 6: is their arena. So like the other night, you know,

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Speaker 6: Friday night, Saturday night at seven, those things, versus the

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Speaker 6: last like four years they've been playing Tuesday at noon

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Speaker 6: and things just whenever they could get in the fieldhouse.

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Speaker 6: So early impressions were very positive about the whole.

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Speaker 7: Experience in the game atmosphere.

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Speaker 6: And I think it's also a bonus to have a

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Speaker 6: player we're all familiar with here in Kyle Guy that

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Speaker 6: right now.

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Speaker 7: Has had to lead the way.

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Speaker 6: But the disappointing thing is the injury bug is extended

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Speaker 6: from the Fever to the Pacers and now to the Boom.

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Speaker 6: They did have an emergency hardship player added last week.

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Speaker 1: The Boom had one.

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Speaker 7: You're saying, yeah, that's exactly right.

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Speaker 6: You have to have a minimum of eight players Jake,

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Speaker 6: and for the season opener and Grand Rapids they were

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Speaker 6: below that after a player was not feeling well in

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Speaker 6: shoot around. So a player they had just cut last

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Speaker 6: week was driven in from Chicago and had to play.

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Speaker 7: In the game.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, I don't know what it is, but I

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Speaker 6: wish this injury bug would go away here indefinitely.

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Speaker 1: Scott Agnes is our guest Fieldhouse files where you can

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Speaker 1: read his work. He's on the Java House Peel and

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Speaker 1: Poor Guest line. Jake twenty five is the discount code

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Speaker 1: for twenty five percent off at Java house dot com.

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Speaker 1: Scott TJ McConnell back tonight. Do you think or simply

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Speaker 1: is this now the introduction tours starting to look at

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Speaker 1: the games on when there is the possibility we'll see him?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I would guess based on how they listed him

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Speaker 6: as question. Well, if you go off of what nim

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00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 6: Hart was the other day, it means let's see how

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Speaker 6: he warms up, how he's feeling.

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Speaker 7: And then throughout throughout the game.

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Speaker 6: Obviously, Rick Carlisle and the training staff will watch his minute,

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Speaker 6: so I would be encouraged, but do not have a

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Speaker 6: definitive yes or no. Certainly for tonight. But the main

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00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 6: thing in all this is it allows them to get

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Speaker 6: another playmaking guard and Nemhart can get back to running

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Speaker 6: the starters, McConnell back with the reserves, and then you

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Speaker 6: get some sort of continuity, some familiarity that's been completely

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Speaker 6: lost through the first ten games of the season.

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Speaker 1: How would you assess Neimhard just in terms of his

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Speaker 1: return and knocking off the rush, so to speak.

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Speaker 6: Far beyond my expectations, right, Like, he's played one game

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Speaker 6: this season until his return, and so no way he

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Speaker 6: wasn't out of game shape and game rhythm and a

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Speaker 6: lot of new players that he hadn't played with before

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Speaker 6: and you wouldn't have known it. So I was very

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Speaker 6: impressed with the way in which he quickly came back

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Speaker 6: and with able to play a key role for this group.

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Speaker 1: Scott Agnes is our guest field House Files. Scott. I

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Speaker 1: was thinking about this as we were talking about it

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Speaker 1: off the top with the draft pick. Okay, when when

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Speaker 1: you look at you know Siakam notably, but if you

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Speaker 1: assess this season, and I don't know when it would

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Speaker 1: be the case that the Pacers would look at this,

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Speaker 1: but we knew going into it what the reality was

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Speaker 1: with no Halliburton, do they begin to temper you think,

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Speaker 1: in any way, shape or form the minutes that some

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Speaker 1: veterans are getting just to make sure and I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying to tank it, but rather to be conscientious and

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Speaker 1: aware of the mileage they're putting on players that they

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Speaker 1: may need to be fresher in, say a year or two.

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Speaker 1: Dumb as that may sound.

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Speaker 6: No, I would agree, and I even don't even think

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Speaker 6: the more long term. It's more the short term is

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00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 6: the overused leads to injuries, and right now they've got

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Speaker 6: injuries in many cases that have been some overuse.

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Speaker 7: And one of the.

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Speaker 6: Great storylines for me, I thought coming into the season

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Speaker 6: we're surrounding this team is how did this group handle

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Speaker 6: their off season differently?

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Speaker 7: Because instead of you know, their season.

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Speaker 6: Ending by May, it went in even another month into

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Speaker 6: very late June, and so you know, it really does

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Speaker 6: not allow them the opportunity to take a full month,

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Speaker 6: month and a half off, and they got right right

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Speaker 6: back to it. Jake in early September at Siakam's players.

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Speaker 7: Only mini camp.

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Speaker 6: Then you get to camp and and and this team

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Speaker 6: was playing hard and picking up full court in the preseason.

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Speaker 6: Just so many different considerations that this front office, training staff,

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Speaker 6: coaching staff have to consider. And I thought we saw

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Speaker 6: it for the first time the other night, second night

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Speaker 6: of a back to back. Or Nie Smith's rather not

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Speaker 6: completely healthy dealing with the little pains that say, hey,

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Speaker 6: let's not force it. Siakam, his workload has been overwhelming.

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Speaker 6: I would say if he's had to do everything to

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Speaker 6: just keep them in games, to keep things reasons the

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Speaker 6: Bowl and so sneaking in a rest game for him,

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Speaker 6: I think that.

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Speaker 7: Was totally reasonable.

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Speaker 6: As much as you hated for fans in person and

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Speaker 6: watching on TV, I think it just is not sustainable

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Speaker 6: for him to do what he is having to do

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Speaker 6: given the lack of players available. So yeah, I think

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Speaker 6: they absolutely have to and will be mindful of that

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Speaker 6: with many of the players that have played a ton

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Speaker 6: of basketball over the last three years with them.

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Speaker 1: Scott, you're in Florida right now? What part of Florida?

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Speaker 7: Bell Air of Florida, so right by clearwater.

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Speaker 1: Bell Air of Florida, not to be confused with bell Air, California. Okay,

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Speaker 1: what's the temperature?

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Speaker 6: Fifty five? You would have never guessed that. I wouldn't

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Speaker 6: have either. We got a cold front for a couple days.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, now it's all relative, right, I mean, it's like

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Speaker 1: twenty eight fur it's fifty five here in the building.

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Speaker 1: It's fifty five in the bathroom, Isn't that right, Eddie?

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Speaker 8: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I haven't been in the bathroom, okay, ask I just

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Speaker 1: went out of the restroom in the commercial break, I

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Speaker 1: walked in and Landon, who does Tony Katz's show, was

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Speaker 1: in there and he was starting a fire. Odd Scott,

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Speaker 1: the reason you're in Florida work purpose is correct? Am

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Speaker 1: I allowed to say that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, yes.

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Speaker 6: So Caitlyn Clark is playing in the LPGA Pro Am

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Speaker 6: for the ANKA for the second straight year. That'll be

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01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 6: tomorrow if he's off at a eight thirty in the morning.

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01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 6: She'll play the front nine with Anika Sorenstam. And it's

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Speaker 6: just it's it's an event that's sponsored by game Bridge.

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01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 6: He has an endorsement deal with him. And to make

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01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 6: it all better, you'll appreciate this last year, a couple

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Speaker 6: of the celebrity caddies we're part of Gamebridge, where Colton Hurda,

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Speaker 6: Marcus eriksson of Indy car This year, a couple of

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Speaker 6: her teammates, Sophie Cunningham, Lexi Hall, involved Brionna Scurry as well,

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Speaker 6: and so it'll just be a fun, lighthearted atmosphere. And

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Speaker 6: the best thing these players will tell you, as they

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01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 6: did last year, is Caitlyn's bringing eyes to no matter

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Speaker 6: where she goes. So more eyes on her in this LPGA.

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Speaker 6: And by the way, the Golf Channel will show parts

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Speaker 6: of it, I don't know how much for like two

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Speaker 6: hours tomorrow. That coverage will bring more eyes to the

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Speaker 6: tournament that will be going on throughout the weekend.

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Speaker 7: How good golf she I would say a.

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Speaker 6: Bogie golfer based on what I've seen, Like she'll have

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Speaker 6: some really good shots and then she'll slice one off

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Speaker 6: the tee or miss a good putt and then the

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Speaker 6: next time making eighteen footers. So I don't think she

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Speaker 6: plays nearly as much as she likes, but she belongs

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Speaker 6: to courses in Indianapolis, and this is one thing she

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Speaker 6: really enjoys that I think it's just so different from basketball,

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Speaker 6: just from a simple fact that it's all individual and

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Speaker 6: mental versus the team sport that she does with the

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Speaker 6: Indiana Fever.

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Speaker 2: Scott, have we heard anything on the WNBA front on

1264
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 2: how negotiations are currently going for a new CBA.

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Speaker 6: No no update other than at the end of last month,

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01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 6: both sides of Green eddy to extend the bargaining agreement

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Speaker 6: another thirty days that expires at the end of this month.

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Speaker 6: But based on what all they had to say, it

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01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 6: seems like they had a lot of ground to make

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01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 6: up and so but no firm update or no nothing

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01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 6: of known either of like what the what the sticking

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Speaker 6: points are, because I just think they're have been so

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Speaker 6: many to this point.

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Speaker 1: Scott Agnes field House files where you can read the

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Speaker 1: work joining us, Java House, Peel and poor guest Line.

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01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 1: Enjoy the pseudo amusing air quotes cold weather down in

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Speaker 1: Florida and safe travels back.

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Speaker 7: All right, awesome, appreciate it. Thanks guys, good.

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Speaker 1: Luck getting back. I guess I should say, based on

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Speaker 1: the way things are going, although I think we're still

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Speaker 1: probably in another week of flight de Laso, but just

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Speaker 1: didn't didn't just jinx it because I will be leaving

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Speaker 1: at two o'clock tomorrow for vacation. Now, Eddie, we mentioned

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Speaker 1: that we have drumstick Dash entries to give away. Correct,

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01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 1: Now you came up with your idea. I like it.

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Speaker 1: I like the idea on how we're going to give

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Speaker 1: these away. Correct, Yes, I want your best turkey cobble. Okay.

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Speaker 1: So basically people need to call in at two through nine,

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Speaker 1: ten seventy and if they want to do the drumstick dash.

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Speaker 1: This is all of course, to move your feet so

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Speaker 1: others can eat. This is part of Wheeler Mission. I'll

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Speaker 1: be down there as well. Do it every year in

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01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 1: broader Pool. The run it's just about there are two

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01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 1: different courses. You can do one that's the shorter course

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01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 1: or the bigger one. It's about a forty minute run

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Speaker 1: depending on your time, but it's just under five miles.

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Speaker 1: I think you can do the shorter one that is

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01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 1: right at like one point seven five maybe something like that,

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Speaker 1: a five k. But the important thing is this is

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01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 1: a fundraiser for Wheeler Mission. And when you think about

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01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving and you think about the you know people that

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01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 1: don't have the opportunity to sit with the family to

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01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 1: have a dinner. Wheeler Mission puts that on so that

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01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 1: everybody can feel that warmth of a meal and of

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01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 1: the camaraderie and this city helping out with it. So

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01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 1: the Drumstick Dash a fantastic event. People. You see people

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01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 1: dressed like turkeys, people dressed like saying up. People like yesterday,

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01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 1: yesterday Eddie was dressed like an elf. You name it.

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Speaker 1: We will give away a how many do we have

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01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 1: to give away here?

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01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 3: Ready?

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01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 2: So we have four entries. They're all individuals, so it's

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01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 2: not you and somebody else, it's just for you.

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01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 1: Okay, So four entries to give away and we will

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01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 1: do it. But you have to do your turkey gobble right,

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01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 1: that's right, all right, we'll do it at two nine

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01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 1: ten seventy. Line up now we'll do another side. Okay,

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01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 1: So two seventy the telephone number. We have callers lined

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01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 1: up for an entry into the Drumstick Dash. This is

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01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving morning in Broaderpool. Benefit of course for wheeler mission.

1321
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 1: Moving your feet so others can eat, and we will

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01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 1: begin with Julie. Now Eddie, hold your breath here, Julie,

1323
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:37,960
Speaker 1: how are you?

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01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 8: I'm doing great, Julie.

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01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 1: You sound fire up so others can eat. I love that, Julie.

1326
01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question. Have you called the

1327
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:48,480
Speaker 1: program before? By chance?

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01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 9: I called the fans, but I've never called you Eddie.

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01:06:54,880 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 1: If you could please this just we are now officially

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01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 1: at female caller number thirty female listener number thirty on

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01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 1: the program. Julie, you are the thirtieth female listener in

1332
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 1: the history of this show, and we could not be

1333
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 1: more thrilled.

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01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 9: Oh, thank you very much.

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01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 6: I just love you listen to you every day.

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01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 1: Now, you do realize you've called quarrying company right? A

1337
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 1: lot of times people say that and then I find

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01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 1: out they think they call Bob and Tom.

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01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 10: No no no.

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01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:26,080
Speaker 8: I love you.

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01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 1: Okay, well, Julie, I love you too. Okay, Julie. Here's

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01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 1: the thing, though, I don't know if you caught this

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01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:36,439
Speaker 1: part of it. Okay. Now, are you native to Indianapolis? Julie, yes,

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01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 1: I am. Have you drum Have you done the drumstick

1345
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:39,520
Speaker 1: dash before?

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01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 9: Yes? I have.

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01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 1: It's wonderful, isn't it. It's just this great celebration of humanity.

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01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 1: I love everything about it. But in order to get

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01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 1: your entry, we need to hear your best turkey now, Eddie,

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01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 1: go ahead and fire for her the example here of

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01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:57,920
Speaker 1: what we're looking for. Okay, Julie, I need your best

1352
01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 1: turkey gobble impersonation. Go ahead, all right, all right, Julie,

1353
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 1: we'll take it. You're locked and loaded. Eddie will get

1354
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 1: your information. I appreciate you calling into the program. Female

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01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 1: listener number thirty officially here on the show. Chris is next. Julie.

1356
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:21,639
Speaker 1: Hang on the line, by the way. We'll get to you. Chris.

1357
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:22,120
Speaker 1: How are you?

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01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 3: I'm good? How are you good?

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01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 1: You've got a lot to live up to there after, Julie,

1360
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 1: you got to pick up the pace a little bit. Ye, Chris,

1361
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 1: let me ask you something. How long have you been

1362
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 1: listening to this show?

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01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 9: How long you've been on the air.

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01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 3: Jake?

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01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:43,559
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, Well, I mean I appreciate that aspect of it.

1366
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 1: And if you don't mind me asking, do you like

1367
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:49,320
Speaker 1: the program or do you simply tolerate it?

1368
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:53,719
Speaker 10: I definitely love the program, Jake favorite.

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01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 1: Well, thanks, Chris. We're going to hook you up, but

1370
01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 1: you got to give us your best turkey impersonation. Go ahead, now, Chris,

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01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 1: waitning minute, now, hold on, Chris, we didn't say horse,

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01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:12,720
Speaker 1: I need I need a turkey impersonation. We'll give you

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01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:17,759
Speaker 1: another shot, Chris, give me your best turkey. Chris. Okay,

1374
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 1: that's better. That's better, all right, Chris, hang on just

1375
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 1: a second. James is up next. Hi James, how are you?

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01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 1: I am doing well, Jake. Thank you for asking.

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01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:33,639
Speaker 11: I officially would like to welcome Julie to the ten

1378
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 11: seventy Fan program.

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01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 1: Thank you, James. James, just out of curiosity, you have

1380
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 1: you called the show before.

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01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:47,639
Speaker 11: I am a thorough caller and an avid winner, Jake.

1382
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 1: That's what I thought. Well, I knew you were a winner.

1383
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 1: I could tell that in the second you started talking.

1384
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:55,640
Speaker 1: I mean your James. Your winning ability resonates through the

1385
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:57,719
Speaker 1: phone lines. I can tell you that, and then yes,

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01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:01,680
Speaker 1: the that the voice immediately become familiar. James, are you

1387
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:03,720
Speaker 1: out driving around today please at ten and two? If

1388
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 1: you are, yes, I am.

1389
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 11: I currently have my dash cam on in my company vehicle,

1390
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:12,720
Speaker 11: and I want to apologize to all the drivers in

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01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:17,200
Speaker 11: Brownsburg because I know I look like a madman practicing

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01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 11: this turkey call.

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01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:22,160
Speaker 1: All right, James, give it to us. Hit us with

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01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:28,680
Speaker 1: your best turkey right now. Now, hold on, James, that

1395
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 1: is solid. One more, James, one more if you could

1396
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:34,960
Speaker 1: for the folks in Brownsburg. That is well done. Go ahead,

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01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 1: all right, hang on, James, we'll get you there all right.

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01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 2: Lastly, Nick, that's pretty good.

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01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 1: That was solid, Nick, man, you are you're up against

1400
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:52,640
Speaker 1: it here?

1401
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:52,920
Speaker 3: Nick?

1402
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 1: What's up?

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01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:54,760
Speaker 9: Hey?

1404
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:55,639
Speaker 7: Jake doing brother?

1405
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 9: Thanks for having me on.

1406
01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 1: Oh you're welcome.

1407
01:10:57,840 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 3: Nick.

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01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 1: You sound you've called the program before, right?

1409
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 9: No, first time listen since day one? First time call?

1410
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 1: Really? Okay, Nick, if you don't mind me asked, We're

1411
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:07,920
Speaker 1: gonna play a little get to know your listener. We've

1412
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:09,559
Speaker 1: had a lot of success with this. Kids love this

1413
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 1: segment that we do. Can I ask the first question? Sure,

1414
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:13,880
Speaker 1: how many cups of coffee have you had today?

1415
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 3: Zero? Well?

1416
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 1: Nick, we can get that squared away for you at

1417
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 1: Java House, the Java House Peel and poor guest line,

1418
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:24,720
Speaker 1: and you can use Jake twenty five as the discount code.

1419
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:26,560
Speaker 1: Whether you want the Wrangler Energy, whether you want the

1420
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 1: Liquid Science, or you want the Columbian Coffee, It doesn't matter.

1421
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:31,720
Speaker 1: Java House dot Com. Uh okay, Nick. A couple of

1422
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:33,920
Speaker 1: questions real quick. How old a fella are you?

1423
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:36,679
Speaker 9: Thirty nine, buddy?

1424
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 1: Thirty? Thirty nine year old? Nick? Okay, I'm gonna guess Nick,

1425
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:42,960
Speaker 1: if you are thirty nine. That puts you somewhere around

1426
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:44,960
Speaker 1: the graduating class of high school of O five. Is

1427
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 1: that right?

1428
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:47,160
Speaker 3: Yep?

1429
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 1: Okay? And that would be? What that would be? What

1430
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:49,719
Speaker 1: high school?

1431
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:54,560
Speaker 9: Nick Wheeler high School outside Valpraso, Indiana?

1432
01:11:54,720 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 1: Really? Okay? And aside from I sixty five, how did

1433
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 1: you end up in Indianapolis?

1434
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 9: Went to school down at IU and stuck around after that?

1435
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:08,599
Speaker 1: Okay? And what line of work are you in now?

1436
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 3: Nick? Employee?

1437
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 9: Benefits and fun fun fact? I I met you at

1438
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:16,720
Speaker 9: the IU basketball game and you're kind enough to take

1439
01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 9: a moment to chat with me for a second. So

1440
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:20,599
Speaker 9: well a gentleman and scholar, Nick.

1441
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 1: That that answers my other question. I guess you answered

1442
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 1: it there. Usually when people, if I've run into people,

1443
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 1: the first question I asked is was I nice? Or

1444
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:28,040
Speaker 1: was I a jerk?

1445
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:33,320
Speaker 9: You're nice, buddy, I tell everybody you're a joker.

1446
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:38,600
Speaker 1: Well, not wrong with that, Nick, nothing wrong with that

1447
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 1: at all. All right, Nick, give us your best turkey

1448
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 1: gobble if you could.

1449
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 9: It's gonna be tough after our buddy in Brownsberg. But

1450
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:45,760
Speaker 9: here we go.

1451
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 1: Okay, not not bad, not bad, not James caliber, Nick,

1452
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:53,880
Speaker 1: but pretty darn good. And you said I'm a nice guy,

1453
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:56,840
Speaker 1: so we'll square you away. So go ahead and hang

1454
01:12:56,840 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 1: on the line. Eddie will get the information. From all

1455
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 1: of you, Nick, James, Chris, and Julie. Now Eddie, the

1456
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:04,880
Speaker 1: question becomes, and everybody hang around here. Eddie will get

1457
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 1: with you in just a second. The question becomes, Unfortunately,

1458
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:11,599
Speaker 1: we can't have all of them like in the same corral, right,

1459
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 1: because it'd be great to get a group photo with

1460
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:16,240
Speaker 1: all of them right right, So Nick, James, Chris, and

1461
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 1: Julie at the drumstick Dash. If you can come come

1462
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 1: towards the front at some point, or if any of

1463
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:23,479
Speaker 1: you have my number, we'll try to get a photo

1464
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 1: with everybody.

1465
01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:24,800
Speaker 2: Now, what's your number?

1466
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 1: That'd be five to two three ninety two eighty eight

1467
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 1: five three that's a three to one seven area code,

1468
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 1: and then five to two three ninety two eighty eight.

1469
01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:36,840
Speaker 2: Before the two, and then the three follows the two. Right,

1470
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:39,280
Speaker 2: That is correct.

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01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 1: Now, the Drumstick Dash itself, they do have the like

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01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:50,840
Speaker 1: quote unquote, it's more just media contingency, and they have

1473
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:56,120
Speaker 1: a dash amongst us a competition Zach Keifer wins every

1474
01:13:56,200 --> 01:14:00,680
Speaker 1: year and Lara Overton, Lara Overton who was a you know,

1475
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 1: like international champion cross country and track and field runner

1476
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:07,400
Speaker 1: at Indiana and still it gets up in the morning

1477
01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:09,639
Speaker 1: and for fun runs like thirty six miles every day.

1478
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:11,680
Speaker 1: She runs a mile a day, so yeah, so she

1479
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 1: Lara Overton wins it. Lara Overton finishes around the time

1480
01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 1: that like you get off the start line, the A

1481
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 1: corral is just getting going. Yes now for me, I

1482
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:26,559
Speaker 1: start up towards the front and they have us go first,

1483
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 1: and then they wait like two minutes, and then they

1484
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:32,360
Speaker 1: let the elite level runners go. And so I usually

1485
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 1: get about to oh, just past broader Pool Park, and

1486
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 1: then I start to hear the herd and it's like

1487
01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 1: the Bishop Schattard cross country team that like and like

1488
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 1: you know, the U Indie cross country team like blow

1489
01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:49,040
Speaker 1: my they just blow my doors off. And then I

1490
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:51,360
Speaker 1: round the corner and there's one guy on Kessler that

1491
01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 1: always has a big bonfire, which is a little bit

1492
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:56,200
Speaker 1: irritating when you're trying to run because you're running through

1493
01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 1: in this big you know, waff of smoke and everything else.

1494
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 1: But I listen while we're running, I'd like James to

1495
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:04,559
Speaker 1: just do, as matter of fact, fire James back up

1496
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 1: real quick if you could. James, if you're still there

1497
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:09,599
Speaker 1: by the way, I'm putting you back on the air.

1498
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 1: K just so you can do it one more time.

1499
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:13,720
Speaker 1: Can we get James one more turkey gobble from you

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01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:14,320
Speaker 1: if we could?

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01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 7: What?

1502
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:22,479
Speaker 1: Thank you, James? Okay, that's how we do it. That's

1503
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 1: how we do it. All right, Well, get everybody's information.

1504
01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 1: We'll get you on your way and you can move

1505
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 1: your feet so others can eat for the drumstick dash.

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01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:34,120
Speaker 1: We come back back into what I was talking about earlier,

1507
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:38,280
Speaker 1: when it comes to the Colts and the one thing

1508
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:40,599
Speaker 1: that I think needs to be spent on the bye week.

1509
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:46,559
Speaker 1: We'll explain next couple of news and note items regarding

1510
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:52,000
Speaker 1: the Colts. First off, I don't know whether or not

1511
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:57,200
Speaker 1: they're going to officially undergo workouts, but I'm told sources

1512
01:15:57,280 --> 01:16:04,680
Speaker 1: tell me that defensive end Chris Wormley and linebacker slash

1513
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:11,280
Speaker 1: Edge shack Lawson both undergoing physicals, perhaps for a workout

1514
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:13,479
Speaker 1: with the Colts. Now, that doesn't mean that either one

1515
01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:18,439
Speaker 1: of them will be signed by the Colts, but shack

1516
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 1: Lawson in particular, who is you know, ten years removed

1517
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:27,600
Speaker 1: from being a first round pick, and Chris Wormley apparently

1518
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:31,920
Speaker 1: undergoing the medical examination to determine whether or not they

1519
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:35,599
Speaker 1: will get a then extended an offer and or a

1520
01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 1: try out with the Colts. But that's not unusual. I mean,

1521
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:44,720
Speaker 1: obviously NFL teams are always doing due diligence on all aspects,

1522
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 1: all angles of what they can do to shore things up.

1523
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 1: And here in the bye week, the Colts then have

1524
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:55,519
Speaker 1: to go to Kansas City, sitting at eight and two,

1525
01:16:55,880 --> 01:17:01,120
Speaker 1: and the question about the Colts in I'm a little

1526
01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:03,519
Speaker 1: hesitant to go there because of the fact that they

1527
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 1: are eight and two and it has been a dream

1528
01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:13,760
Speaker 1: season thus far. Yes, sure they should be nine to

1529
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 1: one for that matter, when you look at the game

1530
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 1: with the Rams and the plays that ended up essentially

1531
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:24,080
Speaker 1: in New York if you know, you know. But then

1532
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 1: again they got gifted a little bit, the one with

1533
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 1: Denver and the leverage call on the field goal at

1534
01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:36,120
Speaker 1: the end of the game. Having said all of that,

1535
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:40,559
Speaker 1: there are two things that jump out at me about

1536
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:43,080
Speaker 1: the Colts moving into the buy that I am very

1537
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:46,320
Speaker 1: curious to watch. The first is on the good side

1538
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 1: of things, what they do in terms of and one

1539
01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 1: would assume they already as a matter of fact, it's

1540
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:55,200
Speaker 1: reported out there already in discussions in terms of locking

1541
01:17:55,360 --> 01:18:02,920
Speaker 1: in and nailing down contracts for Alec Pierce and Daniel Jones,

1542
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:08,280
Speaker 1: and in Alec Pearce's case, he has evolved into their

1543
01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:15,320
Speaker 1: most complete wide receiver. Michael Pittman Junior is the kind

1544
01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:17,760
Speaker 1: of a wide receiver that it is not until after

1545
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:19,479
Speaker 1: the fact that you go back and look at it,

1546
01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:22,680
Speaker 1: and perhaps it will be after his career when you

1547
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:24,960
Speaker 1: go back and look at it and really get an

1548
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:29,479
Speaker 1: admiration and appreciation for the way that he plays and

1549
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:33,800
Speaker 1: the selflessness with which he plays in Michael Pittman Junior.

1550
01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 1: Solid solid player and willing to in last year, play

1551
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:42,720
Speaker 1: through injury, go across the middle, not afraid to get hit.

1552
01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:48,360
Speaker 1: God love Michael Pittman Jr. And you know, we've talked about,

1553
01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:54,880
Speaker 1: or I've talked at length about the versatility of Ashton Doolan.

1554
01:18:56,240 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 1: Josh Downs is such an elite kind of hidden weapon

1555
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:05,679
Speaker 1: to have, maybe not on in every play type situation,

1556
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:09,040
Speaker 1: but he's your bailout guy. You just always know when

1557
01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:10,600
Speaker 1: it comes down to it, that you're going to be

1558
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 1: able to find Josh Downs and that he'll try to

1559
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:18,519
Speaker 1: and likely make a play for you. Tyler Warren, you

1560
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:21,920
Speaker 1: know eight for ninety nine is a tight end, is special.

1561
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 1: He made a fabulous catch on a perfect throw from

1562
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:30,920
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones when it mattered most in Berlin and Tyler Warren,

1563
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:35,800
Speaker 1: you can put anywhere and it changes everything. Tyler Warren

1564
01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:40,599
Speaker 1: and what he brings to the offense softens the defense

1565
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 1: up because they've got to stretch out and be aware

1566
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 1: of where he is at all times. But Alec Pierce

1567
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 1: is the guy that has become not just a behind

1568
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:55,439
Speaker 1: the defense receiver as we knew him to be. And

1569
01:19:55,520 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 1: when you know, when he first came into the league,

1570
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:03,080
Speaker 1: it was, gosh, he's a burner that can get back

1571
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:04,720
Speaker 1: there and make the and hit the home run ball.

1572
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 1: But outside of that, what does he bring to the table. Well,

1573
01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:10,519
Speaker 1: now he has morphed into he is the most complete back.

1574
01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:13,160
Speaker 1: He can make the catch at the line, he can

1575
01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:14,840
Speaker 1: do it on a bubble screen, he can do it.

1576
01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 1: And the slant in the slot. I mean, wherever you

1577
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 1: need him to be is where he is. And then

1578
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:24,280
Speaker 1: you watch the Jonathan Taylor run and you watch the

1579
01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:28,120
Speaker 1: breakaway and you know Joe Wrights is is. You can

1580
01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:30,759
Speaker 1: hear Joe Wrights in the background. Look at Pierce Block.

1581
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:35,120
Speaker 1: Look at Pierce Block. When I'll have Eddie pull up

1582
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:37,840
Speaker 1: the play. If you listen to the highlight, Eddie, do

1583
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:39,800
Speaker 1: we have the highlight of the Jonathan Taylor run where

1584
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 1: you can hear Alec Pierce running downfield blocking to the

1585
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:46,120
Speaker 1: point where Joe writes, who himself an offensive lineman was

1586
01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:49,880
Speaker 1: able to recognize it? And it was so much to

1587
01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:52,920
Speaker 1: be seen that even Joe wrights Like is jumping up

1588
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 1: euphorically and not even thinking about the fact that he's

1589
01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:58,719
Speaker 1: yelling out loud pointing out the fact that Alec Pierce

1590
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:03,599
Speaker 1: is running downfield, blocking and springing, springing open Jonathan Taylor

1591
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:06,639
Speaker 1: under center Daniel Jones. Grat give to Jonathan Taylor. He's

1592
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:08,639
Speaker 1: well over one hundred yards. He adds to his total

1593
01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:09,559
Speaker 1: therey he gets out.

1594
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:13,440
Speaker 8: He's at the thirty thirty five forty past up sideline.

1595
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 1: He's got a chance.

1596
01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 3: Look at me.

1597
01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:18,520
Speaker 1: He's in the twenty ten five touchdown.

1598
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 11: There's a record pranker for Jonathan Taylor, and.

1599
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:28,639
Speaker 1: It puts the top twenty two to seventeen. Hello, little

1600
01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:33,320
Speaker 1: all time record for an already all time greg Jonathan

1601
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:37,439
Speaker 1: Taylor now has the most rushing touchdowns in Cults history.

1602
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:40,320
Speaker 1: Great call from Matt Taylor and you can hear the

1603
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 1: excitement from Joe wrights. Each play that Alec Pierce makes

1604
01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:47,800
Speaker 1: this year, he is adding to the amount that he

1605
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 1: is going to be able to dictate that the cults

1606
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:52,320
Speaker 1: are gonna have to pony up for him. And one

1607
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:54,760
Speaker 1: would assume they're gonna do it. They're already in negotiation

1608
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:58,240
Speaker 1: for it. And that is a guy that initially there

1609
01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:00,640
Speaker 1: was question like was this even nobody that was going

1610
01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:03,680
Speaker 1: to pan out? And that's exactly what he's going to

1611
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:05,760
Speaker 1: hear with each play that he makes. Now, then you

1612
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:08,200
Speaker 1: look at Adie Mitchell, who obviously now is in New

1613
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 1: York and that's why Reggie Wayne was, you know, kept

1614
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:13,719
Speaker 1: saying like, hey, give a guy time because it takes

1615
01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 1: a while. From the receiver standpoint the other side of things,

1616
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 1: that's the good. Then then there's if that's the end,

1617
01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 1: that here's the end in terms of things going into

1618
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:29,080
Speaker 1: the by that I'm curious to see what happens on

1619
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 1: the other side. Daniel Jones has exceeded every expectation. Daniel

1620
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:42,080
Speaker 1: Jones has checked every box. And when Daniel Jones was

1621
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:49,800
Speaker 1: brought in and the word simply was, hey, this is

1622
01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:56,080
Speaker 1: an open competition at quarterback. And you've heard me say

1623
01:22:56,080 --> 01:23:03,320
Speaker 1: this a thousand times. We will never know whether or not.

1624
01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:05,599
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess we could if Chris Ballard finally

1625
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:08,000
Speaker 1: one day just says here's how it's going to be.

1626
01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:13,640
Speaker 1: But we'll never know whether or not Daniel Jones was

1627
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:21,000
Speaker 1: acquired and signed because deep down the Colts felt like

1628
01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:25,000
Speaker 1: they needed a starter because they didn't have one and

1629
01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:27,640
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson was not going to be that guy, or

1630
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:30,000
Speaker 1: whether or not Daniel Jones was brought in because they

1631
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 1: thought Anthony Richardson perhaps could be that guy, but he

1632
01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:35,759
Speaker 1: just needed to be pushed or needed to be mentored.

1633
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:38,160
Speaker 2: I kind of go back, Jake to what Chris Ballard

1634
01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:41,639
Speaker 2: said in that preseason press conference about, you know, comparing

1635
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:44,200
Speaker 2: this situation for Daniel Jones to Alex Smith when he

1636
01:23:45,439 --> 01:23:47,160
Speaker 2: went from San Francisco to Kansas City.

1637
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:51,080
Speaker 1: Well, and I think that that's there was that possibility

1638
01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:53,639
Speaker 1: they were thinking that. But the problem is for Chris

1639
01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 1: Ballard at any point to say I went out and

1640
01:23:56,400 --> 01:23:58,280
Speaker 1: got Daniel Jones because I knew this is what it

1641
01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:00,840
Speaker 1: was going to be. That would also in the same

1642
01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:03,400
Speaker 1: breath be Chris Ballard admitting that he swung and missed

1643
01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 1: on Anthony Richardson and therefore that's the which I think

1644
01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:10,599
Speaker 1: he did. But and there's no reason for him now

1645
01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:12,600
Speaker 1: because he got to make good here, right Eddie On

1646
01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:16,680
Speaker 1: exactly that, Yeah, and working out for him. You know,

1647
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:21,800
Speaker 1: I remember years ago when Reggie Miller was retiring. And

1648
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:24,200
Speaker 1: I'm not comparing Reggie Miller to Daniel Jones or Anthony

1649
01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:26,439
Speaker 1: Richardson or any of them, but it was a very

1650
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:31,679
Speaker 1: telling thing that stuck with me. I remember when Reggie

1651
01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:36,400
Speaker 1: Miller was retiring and interviewing people about Reggie Miller and

1652
01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:38,720
Speaker 1: you know, to do like a big biopic piece on

1653
01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:43,519
Speaker 1: Reggie Miller. And I remember asking Donnie walshoe had drafted

1654
01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:46,559
Speaker 1: Reggie Miller at the time that you drafted him, did

1655
01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:49,519
Speaker 1: you know this was a franchise player. Did you see

1656
01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:52,120
Speaker 1: him as this is going to be my franchise player?

1657
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:56,400
Speaker 1: And he said, as an executive, you never know that.

1658
01:24:57,680 --> 01:25:00,000
Speaker 1: You get players because you hope that they can help

1659
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:04,240
Speaker 1: help your team win games. And then it's the combination

1660
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:08,320
Speaker 1: of the player and the chips the way they fall

1661
01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:11,360
Speaker 1: that determine whether or not that is your franchise guy.

1662
01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 1: And I think truth be told, the Colts probably thought

1663
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:17,719
Speaker 1: with Daniel Jones that it was somebody that they thought

1664
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:19,960
Speaker 1: could make their team better, and if it was, that

1665
01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:23,560
Speaker 1: makes them better because you get an Alex Smith's situation

1666
01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:25,920
Speaker 1: and now you have found the twenty dollars bill in

1667
01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:28,360
Speaker 1: your pocket in the form of a quarterback. That is

1668
01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:33,840
Speaker 1: your franchise. That's that's beyond great. Or maybe his contribution

1669
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:39,720
Speaker 1: is simply guiding and mentoring Anthony Richardson and pushing him

1670
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:42,599
Speaker 1: a little bit, and then also pushing him like through

1671
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:45,320
Speaker 1: the door of the facility at an earlier hour and

1672
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:48,000
Speaker 1: making sure that he pushed him away from the exit

1673
01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 1: at the early hour so that he stayed later, you know,

1674
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:55,640
Speaker 1: whatever it might be. And obviously then they saw it

1675
01:25:55,720 --> 01:26:01,599
Speaker 1: and said there's something here. What is what gives me pause,

1676
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:06,400
Speaker 1: not concern per se just yet, but gives me pause.

1677
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:09,639
Speaker 1: And what I wonder about going into the bye week

1678
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:15,200
Speaker 1: is this when you think about Scooby Doo and you

1679
01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:18,360
Speaker 1: watch Scooby Doo and those meddling kids, and there was

1680
01:26:18,479 --> 01:26:25,320
Speaker 1: always some bandit that at the end they unveil the

1681
01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:26,960
Speaker 1: mask and find out, wait a minute, this is a

1682
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:30,280
Speaker 1: guy that we thought was a good guy. And I wonder,

1683
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:34,120
Speaker 1: with Daniel Jones, if there's not the possibility, not the probability,

1684
01:26:34,160 --> 01:26:38,680
Speaker 1: but the possibility that it's the good guy and you're

1685
01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:41,559
Speaker 1: starting to peel the mask back and see not a

1686
01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:46,080
Speaker 1: bad guy but the player of who we thought he was.

1687
01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:51,479
Speaker 1: And the reason why the New York Giants eventually cut

1688
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:55,400
Speaker 1: bait and moved on from the Daniel Jones experiences because

1689
01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:59,080
Speaker 1: he was not able to hold onto the football, both

1690
01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:02,960
Speaker 1: in throwing it away and dropping it away. And those

1691
01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:07,240
Speaker 1: are two things that he remarkably had gotten away from

1692
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:09,960
Speaker 1: in the first eighty percent of the season so far,

1693
01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:13,840
Speaker 1: eighty percent to this point. And while he's still when

1694
01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:18,200
Speaker 1: it came down to it not unlike Indiana football Fernando

1695
01:27:18,280 --> 01:27:21,040
Speaker 1: Mendoza when it came down to it and made the

1696
01:27:21,080 --> 01:27:24,759
Speaker 1: plays and Happy Valley that his team needed, and Daniel

1697
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:27,200
Speaker 1: Jones when it came down to it in Berlin made

1698
01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:30,839
Speaker 1: the plays that his team needed, but he also had

1699
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:35,200
Speaker 1: costly turnovers for the second week in a row. He

1700
01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:37,200
Speaker 1: was able to make up for them in that Atlanta game.

1701
01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:38,960
Speaker 1: And you hope that that is the end of that

1702
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:41,680
Speaker 1: and you move forward. But I do wonder, and it

1703
01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 1: does give me pause whether or not they need to

1704
01:27:44,520 --> 01:27:49,400
Speaker 1: now assess just how much they commit to him moving forward.

1705
01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 1: I would say he probably will get an extension. There

1706
01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:54,360
Speaker 1: is negotiation of that at this point. I think it's

1707
01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:56,320
Speaker 1: going to be if I had to guess three year deal,

1708
01:27:57,200 --> 01:27:59,479
Speaker 1: because I don't think that you commit to a five

1709
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:05,800
Speaker 1: to seven near deal. But they clearly are under the

1710
01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:08,479
Speaker 1: mindset that Jones is the guy because they just gave

1711
01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:11,519
Speaker 1: up two first round picks, so they kind of have

1712
01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:14,680
Speaker 1: to have him be the guy. But I'll bet you

1713
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:17,240
Speaker 1: it's going to be a shorter as opposed to longer

1714
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:21,080
Speaker 1: term deal. The other thing with the Pacers that we

1715
01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:23,639
Speaker 1: mentioned and what they've got going on tonight and who

1716
01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:28,479
Speaker 1: might be back next. You know, when we had Brian

1717
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:32,240
Speaker 1: Knubert on of Golden Black Eddie, I can't remember if

1718
01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:36,519
Speaker 1: it was when when you were gone or if it

1719
01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:38,639
Speaker 1: was when you were here, but it was last week.

1720
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:40,600
Speaker 1: Well we've had him on several times, I mean, but

1721
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:43,200
Speaker 1: one of the conversations I had with them the song

1722
01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:45,760
Speaker 1: going into it was we built this city by it

1723
01:28:45,800 --> 01:28:48,240
Speaker 1: was two weeks ago. It was either Jefferson or Starship

1724
01:28:48,280 --> 01:28:51,840
Speaker 1: or Jefferson Starship or Starship Airplane or Starship Airplane. They

1725
01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:57,280
Speaker 1: changed their name every six weeks, you know, But I

1726
01:28:57,320 --> 01:29:01,400
Speaker 1: feel like that should be for the Pacers who are

1727
01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:05,320
Speaker 1: in Utah tonight in Salt Lake City when they debut them,

1728
01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:08,200
Speaker 1: we should play the songs having everything to do with

1729
01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:11,519
Speaker 1: cities because they have the new city uniforms that was

1730
01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:16,400
Speaker 1: they were unveiled today. They basically bring together the different

1731
01:29:16,439 --> 01:29:20,200
Speaker 1: Pacers uniforms of the past. Now I have theory on this.

1732
01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:25,120
Speaker 1: TJ McConnell, by the way, now officially listed as questionable

1733
01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:27,759
Speaker 1: for the Pacers, it would seem as though his return

1734
01:29:27,960 --> 01:29:30,920
Speaker 1: obviously we know he was going to return at some point,

1735
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:35,320
Speaker 1: but it seems imminent now if it's not tonight then

1736
01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:37,640
Speaker 1: and looking at their schedule.

1737
01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:41,800
Speaker 2: UH Thursday night and Phoenix to round out that four

1738
01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:43,479
Speaker 2: game West Coast road trip.

1739
01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:45,400
Speaker 1: And then back home against the Raptors, it would seem

1740
01:29:45,439 --> 01:29:49,720
Speaker 1: as though one of those on satse TJ. McConnell. But

1741
01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:52,719
Speaker 1: the when when it comes to uniforms and the city

1742
01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:55,800
Speaker 1: uniforms for the Pacers, and you know, you get a

1743
01:29:55,800 --> 01:29:57,839
Speaker 1: lot of people that are like, I love the across

1744
01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:01,559
Speaker 1: the chest aspect of the wayman tisday look, or the

1745
01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:05,920
Speaker 1: swoop down on the side stripe of the George McGinnis era,

1746
01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:10,679
Speaker 1: and the ABA obviously the flow Joe's and those mid

1747
01:30:10,760 --> 01:30:19,000
Speaker 1: nineties teams. My theory is that fans often prefer uniforms

1748
01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:22,240
Speaker 1: that remind them of their introduction to a team or

1749
01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:27,679
Speaker 1: the best era in their memory for a team, And

1750
01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:31,040
Speaker 1: for that reason, I think, if you had to say,

1751
01:30:31,960 --> 01:30:34,280
Speaker 1: and I don't think I'm going too far on a limb,

1752
01:30:34,280 --> 01:30:40,240
Speaker 1: here the most popular uniform and color scheme in Pacer history,

1753
01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:44,639
Speaker 1: I think unquestionably would be the flow Jo's right, yes,

1754
01:30:44,720 --> 01:30:49,439
Speaker 1: for sure, or the pinstripes. See I was never a

1755
01:30:49,479 --> 01:30:51,280
Speaker 1: fan of the pinstripes, but I get it. I mean

1756
01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:58,640
Speaker 1: that's the finals, right, I get it. The uniform or

1757
01:30:58,680 --> 01:31:03,640
Speaker 1: the logoing that I personally like, but I'm in the

1758
01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:11,120
Speaker 1: absolute minority. Here is the mid eighty Royal blue with

1759
01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:15,280
Speaker 1: the pacers across the front, the Wayman Tisdale, as I

1760
01:31:15,320 --> 01:31:19,640
Speaker 1: think of it, the Wayman Tisdale era Pacers uniforms. And

1761
01:31:19,680 --> 01:31:23,400
Speaker 1: they were terrible. I mean the pacers were terrible, and

1762
01:31:23,479 --> 01:31:29,240
Speaker 1: Wyman Tisdale, while a solid player, was a guy that

1763
01:31:29,439 --> 01:31:32,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I still remember that we got

1764
01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:36,719
Speaker 1: Wayman buttons. Patrick Ewing was the prize of the eighty

1765
01:31:36,760 --> 01:31:40,320
Speaker 1: five draft. There was the Frozen Envelope, the Pacers end

1766
01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:43,120
Speaker 1: up with the second overall pick, just like they ended

1767
01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:46,160
Speaker 1: up with Steve Stapontovis instead of Ralph Sampson. They end

1768
01:31:46,240 --> 01:31:51,800
Speaker 1: up with Wayman Tisdale, who was a like twenty five

1769
01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:55,680
Speaker 1: hundred point scorer at Oklahoma and multi first team All

1770
01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:59,200
Speaker 1: American and played on the Olympic team and an absolutely

1771
01:31:59,320 --> 01:32:04,040
Speaker 1: unstoppable ball offensive player in college. But in the eighty

1772
01:32:04,080 --> 01:32:07,960
Speaker 1: four Olympics they were in practice, Bob Knight stopped the practice,

1773
01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:10,599
Speaker 1: put an X on the floor and said, I want

1774
01:32:10,600 --> 01:32:13,679
Speaker 1: this forever immortalized that this is the spot where Wayman

1775
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:17,160
Speaker 1: Tisdall finally guarded someone. He was not a great defender,

1776
01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:22,759
Speaker 1: and he was a low post, wide bodied, but undersized player.

1777
01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:26,160
Speaker 1: But nonetheless, when he came here, there was so much

1778
01:32:26,640 --> 01:32:30,640
Speaker 1: hype about him that I was totally on board with it.

1779
01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:33,080
Speaker 1: And I loved those teams, even though they weren't very good,

1780
01:32:33,320 --> 01:32:37,599
Speaker 1: and I liked those uniforms. But the City uniforms, Eddie,

1781
01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:39,600
Speaker 1: you would score them, rate them, grade.

1782
01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:42,120
Speaker 2: Them, how ten out of ten, ten out of ten,

1783
01:32:42,720 --> 01:32:43,920
Speaker 2: ten out of ten.

1784
01:32:45,520 --> 01:32:48,360
Speaker 1: They utilize multiple eras on it.

1785
01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:48,679
Speaker 3: Right.

1786
01:32:49,040 --> 01:32:55,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, Now, when talking about retro uniforms, and that's what

1787
01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:58,639
Speaker 1: all of this is about we're all rooted in sports

1788
01:32:58,680 --> 01:33:04,639
Speaker 1: and nostalgia. I've mentioned that fifty thousand times. But let

1789
01:33:04,680 --> 01:33:06,760
Speaker 1: me ask you this, Eddie Garrison, because I just had

1790
01:33:06,760 --> 01:33:10,879
Speaker 1: a discussion with someone the other day about this. NFL

1791
01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:13,559
Speaker 1: teams you now see more and more doing the retro.

1792
01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:17,200
Speaker 1: It's all merchandising, right, It's all marketing. It's brilliant. If

1793
01:33:17,200 --> 01:33:20,200
Speaker 1: you're the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and you're sitting around and

1794
01:33:20,240 --> 01:33:23,800
Speaker 1: you're like, gosh, you know what, like we're we're off

1795
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:25,840
Speaker 1: the market our merchandise sales this year.

1796
01:33:26,640 --> 01:33:27,200
Speaker 3: Oh just.

1797
01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:32,160
Speaker 1: Put together something and put Bucco Bruce on it and

1798
01:33:32,200 --> 01:33:37,240
Speaker 1: call to day. Okay, fine. You know anything that invokes

1799
01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:40,200
Speaker 1: for people the era in which they first fell in

1800
01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:42,519
Speaker 1: love with teams, or first we're watching sports, or it

1801
01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:45,560
Speaker 1: reminds me whether they're lunchbox or the hat they got it,

1802
01:33:45,640 --> 01:33:48,120
Speaker 1: sears or whatever it might be, that's what they love.

1803
01:33:48,720 --> 01:33:53,000
Speaker 1: So I was having a discussion the other day and

1804
01:33:53,080 --> 01:33:55,799
Speaker 1: I want you to think inside that Jupiter sized craney

1805
01:33:55,840 --> 01:34:01,160
Speaker 1: me your's Eddie on this. A buddy of mine told

1806
01:34:01,160 --> 01:34:04,959
Speaker 1: me that he believes that of the current NFL helmets,

1807
01:34:06,200 --> 01:34:14,240
Speaker 1: that there is only one that the the original that

1808
01:34:14,320 --> 01:34:19,000
Speaker 1: has been upgraded from the original. In other words, there's

1809
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:22,439
Speaker 1: only in my buddy's opinion, there is only one NFL

1810
01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:26,520
Speaker 1: team that their current helmet is superior to their throwback,

1811
01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:34,360
Speaker 1: like the New England Patriots, the original Patriots snapping the

1812
01:34:34,439 --> 01:34:37,680
Speaker 1: ball is superior to that weird USFL looking thing they

1813
01:34:37,720 --> 01:34:38,280
Speaker 1: have now.

1814
01:34:38,160 --> 01:34:41,280
Speaker 2: Right, Oilers is superior to the Titans.

1815
01:34:41,360 --> 01:34:43,559
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna take that out of the equation because

1816
01:34:43,560 --> 01:34:45,960
Speaker 1: it's a different even though it's the same franchise, it's

1817
01:34:45,960 --> 01:34:48,120
Speaker 1: a different franchise now right, I mean the oil Derek

1818
01:34:48,120 --> 01:34:51,920
Speaker 1: would look a little weird if you're the Tennessee Titans, Okay,

1819
01:34:51,960 --> 01:34:54,880
Speaker 1: but of so teams that still go by the same

1820
01:34:54,960 --> 01:34:58,240
Speaker 1: name and whatever else. And when he said this, I

1821
01:34:58,320 --> 01:35:04,960
Speaker 1: strongly disagreed. I'm like, you're the Pacers currently. If they

1822
01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:07,679
Speaker 1: go to a throwback, any of any of the throwbacks

1823
01:35:07,720 --> 01:35:09,920
Speaker 1: we talked about I think are better than their right now,

1824
01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:12,040
Speaker 1: the Pacers have so many different uniforms it's kind of

1825
01:35:12,040 --> 01:35:14,439
Speaker 1: hard to know what their standard uniform is. But right,

1826
01:35:16,040 --> 01:35:20,200
Speaker 1: so any others that pop into your mind.

1827
01:35:20,479 --> 01:35:22,400
Speaker 2: Are you talking about the NFL, You're talking about NFL.

1828
01:35:22,479 --> 01:35:25,439
Speaker 2: In the NFL, I would say the Cincinnati Bengals.

1829
01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:29,800
Speaker 1: So you prefer the Bengals over the top as a

1830
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:31,560
Speaker 1: or no, you you're saying.

1831
01:35:31,400 --> 01:35:34,560
Speaker 2: The straight like the like that Bengal Tiger. Yeah, I

1832
01:35:34,560 --> 01:35:36,720
Speaker 2: would agree with that, compared just the Orange Hellman and

1833
01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:37,920
Speaker 2: then the Bengals on the side.

1834
01:35:38,000 --> 01:35:40,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree with that. They're they're current is

1835
01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:43,519
Speaker 1: superior to their throwback. I would agree with that. Yeah,

1836
01:35:43,560 --> 01:35:45,920
Speaker 1: he went with and I don't agree with this, but

1837
01:35:46,040 --> 01:35:50,160
Speaker 1: he went with the Buffalo Bills. Interesting he thinks that

1838
01:35:50,200 --> 01:35:52,639
Speaker 1: the current Bills, which has been like thirty years now,

1839
01:35:52,640 --> 01:35:55,960
Speaker 1: but is superior to just the standing bill. I think

1840
01:35:56,000 --> 01:35:58,640
Speaker 1: the standing red or the standing Buffalo. I think the

1841
01:35:58,640 --> 01:36:04,759
Speaker 1: standing Buffalo is kind of cool, right, It's kind of cool.

1842
01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:07,400
Speaker 1: But as for the Pacers tonight, Salt Lake City taking

1843
01:36:07,479 --> 01:36:15,440
Speaker 1: on the Jazz McConnell back. I mentioned this earlier, the

1844
01:36:15,439 --> 01:36:20,840
Speaker 1: thing that happened in the middle of the night that

1845
01:36:21,000 --> 01:36:25,200
Speaker 1: probably flew past year radar, And we're going to do

1846
01:36:25,240 --> 01:36:30,519
Speaker 1: this like we did roughly an hour ago. I want

1847
01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:36,719
Speaker 1: you to think back to the NBA Finals. The Pacers

1848
01:36:36,720 --> 01:36:41,960
Speaker 1: were up two games to one, getting ready for Game

1849
01:36:42,040 --> 01:36:46,280
Speaker 1: four on I believe a Friday night, and we had

1850
01:36:46,280 --> 01:36:50,640
Speaker 1: Austin kroscher On and I was talking about what it

1851
01:36:50,720 --> 01:36:53,519
Speaker 1: meant to this city to get themselves in position where

1852
01:36:53,520 --> 01:36:55,400
Speaker 1: they were going to be literally on the cusp of

1853
01:36:55,439 --> 01:37:00,240
Speaker 1: an NBA title, to go up three to one. That

1854
01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:06,000
Speaker 1: you had Game six back here at Gamebridge, and they're

1855
01:37:06,120 --> 01:37:11,000
Speaker 1: leading that game late in the game, and then it happened.

1856
01:37:13,160 --> 01:37:20,000
Speaker 1: Benedicmtherin comes in, great player, super nice guy, intense. Matherin

1857
01:37:20,080 --> 01:37:22,080
Speaker 1: comes in, who had been the hero and fairness to

1858
01:37:22,120 --> 01:37:26,919
Speaker 1: bend Nicmatheren had been the hero in Game three. Matherin

1859
01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:33,360
Speaker 1: comes in off ball foul. Just when you start to think,

1860
01:37:33,439 --> 01:37:35,679
Speaker 1: what in the world that I just see? Another off

1861
01:37:35,720 --> 01:37:39,720
Speaker 1: ball foul gets fouled, goes to the free throw line,

1862
01:37:39,800 --> 01:37:43,080
Speaker 1: missus free throws. There were a lot of things that

1863
01:37:43,160 --> 01:37:45,040
Speaker 1: go into that game. There are a lot of things

1864
01:37:45,040 --> 01:37:47,040
Speaker 1: that go into the course of a game where you

1865
01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:49,160
Speaker 1: can never blame it on one player. But the thing

1866
01:37:49,240 --> 01:37:52,439
Speaker 1: in which people will probably most remember Game four is

1867
01:37:52,479 --> 01:37:55,800
Speaker 1: the Mathering meltdown. So you're tied it to a piece,

1868
01:37:55,880 --> 01:37:57,599
Speaker 1: No problem, He's still going to go back to Oak City,

1869
01:37:58,640 --> 01:38:01,639
Speaker 1: So they go back to Oklahomas Sate. Everybody knows Game

1870
01:38:01,680 --> 01:38:05,960
Speaker 1: five is going to be tough, they actually fight back

1871
01:38:05,960 --> 01:38:09,280
Speaker 1: to the point where they make it close, and then

1872
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:12,559
Speaker 1: eventually they lose, and they lose by eleven. They're down

1873
01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:16,719
Speaker 1: three games to two. Oklahoma City now is on the brink,

1874
01:38:16,920 --> 01:38:19,920
Speaker 1: on the cusp, and you're thinking to yourselves, do not

1875
01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:22,760
Speaker 1: come back here and win game six. Please. I don't

1876
01:38:22,760 --> 01:38:24,960
Speaker 1: want to see a game six where the other team.

1877
01:38:25,040 --> 01:38:27,719
Speaker 1: I don't want to see Oklahoma City lifting a trophy

1878
01:38:27,720 --> 01:38:31,960
Speaker 1: on our home court. And the Pacers go out and

1879
01:38:33,880 --> 01:38:36,000
Speaker 1: end up winning in Game six. But that day after,

1880
01:38:36,080 --> 01:38:39,200
Speaker 1: in game five, when you're absorbing all that and you're

1881
01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:42,320
Speaker 1: thinking about what's going to happen in terms of game six,

1882
01:38:42,600 --> 01:38:47,000
Speaker 1: and you're disappointed from the night before, something else happened

1883
01:38:47,040 --> 01:38:49,080
Speaker 1: that day that you were so caught up in the

1884
01:38:49,080 --> 01:38:53,720
Speaker 1: moment of game five that you didn't realize it. But

1885
01:38:55,200 --> 01:38:59,760
Speaker 1: when the Pacers acquired Pascal Siakam as part of the

1886
01:39:00,080 --> 01:39:07,360
Speaker 1: raid that brought them Pascal Siakam, they sent their twenty

1887
01:39:07,479 --> 01:39:12,800
Speaker 1: twenty six first round draft pick to Toronto. It wasn't

1888
01:39:12,840 --> 01:39:18,400
Speaker 1: a tremendous valuable piece. First round picks are always valuable,

1889
01:39:20,600 --> 01:39:23,320
Speaker 1: But when you considered where the Pacers were hoping to

1890
01:39:23,400 --> 01:39:27,559
Speaker 1: go with Siakam. And when you consider the fact that,

1891
01:39:30,080 --> 01:39:32,960
Speaker 1: did Kevin Apprecier and Shad Buchannan really think they were

1892
01:39:33,000 --> 01:39:35,519
Speaker 1: a team that was going to be that quickly in

1893
01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:38,400
Speaker 1: the cusp of a title. Probably not, But I think

1894
01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:42,800
Speaker 1: they knew by acquiring Pascal Siakam they were improving their

1895
01:39:42,880 --> 01:39:44,400
Speaker 1: roster to the point where they were going to be

1896
01:39:44,439 --> 01:39:50,200
Speaker 1: drafting fall further back the they eighteenth. Okay, so they

1897
01:39:50,280 --> 01:39:53,919
Speaker 1: send their twenty twenty six first round pick to Toronto

1898
01:39:54,200 --> 01:39:56,919
Speaker 1: as part of the package that lands them Pascal Siakam.

1899
01:39:57,920 --> 01:40:00,920
Speaker 1: And just how valuable was that pick? What can that pick?

1900
01:40:01,040 --> 01:40:04,360
Speaker 1: Toronto met so much of it that they packaged it

1901
01:40:04,439 --> 01:40:07,000
Speaker 1: to New Orleans as part of a trade that involved

1902
01:40:07,000 --> 01:40:12,679
Speaker 1: brandon Ingram. So now, all of a sudden, the Pacers

1903
01:40:12,720 --> 01:40:18,000
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six first round pick is like this hot

1904
01:40:18,000 --> 01:40:21,000
Speaker 1: potato that people are passing around, and now New Orleans

1905
01:40:21,040 --> 01:40:25,280
Speaker 1: has it. And the day after that Game five, when

1906
01:40:25,320 --> 01:40:28,519
Speaker 1: we were all focused on Game five, we didn't even

1907
01:40:28,640 --> 01:40:32,599
Speaker 1: necessarily pay attention to it. It was a little blip

1908
01:40:32,640 --> 01:40:34,600
Speaker 1: on a radar, and we were so caught up in

1909
01:40:34,640 --> 01:40:36,880
Speaker 1: the NBA Finals that we didn't even worry about or

1910
01:40:36,880 --> 01:40:39,719
Speaker 1: care about the fact that The Pacers had just traded

1911
01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:45,680
Speaker 1: Mojave King and their twenty third pick in the draft

1912
01:40:46,520 --> 01:40:49,120
Speaker 1: to New Orleans to get back their twenty twenty six

1913
01:40:49,200 --> 01:40:54,200
Speaker 1: first round pick, and you thought, yeah, that makes sense.

1914
01:40:54,479 --> 01:40:57,240
Speaker 1: The twenty third overall pick in the draft. They are

1915
01:40:57,360 --> 01:41:02,080
Speaker 1: right now a game away from winning the NBA Finals.

1916
01:41:02,560 --> 01:41:04,679
Speaker 1: They don't what are they gonna draft it twenty third?

1917
01:41:04,720 --> 01:41:08,080
Speaker 1: That's gonna help them? They're gonna have next year, they're

1918
01:41:08,080 --> 01:41:12,000
Speaker 1: gonna be potentially the defending NBA champions at the very least,

1919
01:41:12,080 --> 01:41:14,680
Speaker 1: we know they're gonna be the defending Afs, or excuse me,

1920
01:41:14,720 --> 01:41:19,439
Speaker 1: the defending Eastern Conference champions, and Tyrese Halliburton's gonna be

1921
01:41:19,439 --> 01:41:25,040
Speaker 1: out there balling out, throwing to Pascal Siakam, kicking it

1922
01:41:25,080 --> 01:41:29,719
Speaker 1: out to Miles Turner for another three would the twenty

1923
01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:31,639
Speaker 1: third pick is gonna be some guy that's probably gonna

1924
01:41:31,640 --> 01:41:34,800
Speaker 1: be a g League player who cares there's not enough

1925
01:41:34,880 --> 01:41:38,599
Speaker 1: room at the end. Obi Toppin's gonna be balling, TJ

1926
01:41:38,720 --> 01:41:42,360
Speaker 1: McConnell Ander nim hard On, Aaron Nee Smith, on and

1927
01:41:42,400 --> 01:41:46,679
Speaker 1: on and on. So they trade out that twenty third

1928
01:41:46,720 --> 01:41:50,400
Speaker 1: overall pick and Mohave King to Toronto. What do they

1929
01:41:50,439 --> 01:41:53,120
Speaker 1: get back their first round pick? Next year's probably gonna

1930
01:41:53,120 --> 01:41:55,559
Speaker 1: be like the twenty eighth pick, because everything I just mentioned,

1931
01:41:55,560 --> 01:41:56,880
Speaker 1: they're gonna be right there in the thick of it,

1932
01:41:57,760 --> 01:42:01,840
Speaker 1: and lo and behold, here we are. Did they look

1933
01:42:01,840 --> 01:42:04,960
Speaker 1: into a crystal ball and know what that pick was

1934
01:42:05,000 --> 01:42:07,840
Speaker 1: going to be worth? I don't know. Did they know

1935
01:42:07,920 --> 01:42:09,960
Speaker 1: that Tyrese Haliburton was going to be out for the year,

1936
01:42:10,080 --> 01:42:13,120
Speaker 1: surely not. Did they know that Andrew Nimhart would start

1937
01:42:13,120 --> 01:42:15,639
Speaker 1: out hurt? I would guess know. Did they know that

1938
01:42:16,680 --> 01:42:20,400
Speaker 1: TJ McConnell was going to miss the first ten games

1939
01:42:20,479 --> 01:42:23,960
Speaker 1: or so? Unlikely? Did they know that Obi Toppin was

1940
01:42:24,000 --> 01:42:25,439
Speaker 1: going to have a stress fracture in his foot and

1941
01:42:25,479 --> 01:42:28,320
Speaker 1: missed three months? I would say signs point to know.

1942
01:42:30,320 --> 01:42:34,160
Speaker 1: But what a brilliant move because now the Indiana Pacers

1943
01:42:34,200 --> 01:42:37,160
Speaker 1: with one win, and yes, I don't anticipate that they

1944
01:42:37,200 --> 01:42:40,200
Speaker 1: will stay at the bottom of the Eastern Conference for

1945
01:42:40,240 --> 01:42:42,880
Speaker 1: the totality of the season, especially when some of those

1946
01:42:42,960 --> 01:42:47,160
Speaker 1: names I just mentioned come back. But here they are

1947
01:42:47,280 --> 01:42:52,040
Speaker 1: now in a situation or position where it is highly

1948
01:42:52,240 --> 01:42:55,439
Speaker 1: likely that they end up outside the playoffs and in

1949
01:42:55,520 --> 01:42:58,000
Speaker 1: the NBA lottery. Well, they have the most ping punk

1950
01:42:58,040 --> 01:43:00,479
Speaker 1: balls for the number one pick. I can't say, I

1951
01:43:00,520 --> 01:43:04,000
Speaker 1: don't know, and does that mean anything? Probably not, Certainly

1952
01:43:04,080 --> 01:43:05,960
Speaker 1: not of San Antonio's in the lottery, because we know

1953
01:43:05,960 --> 01:43:08,720
Speaker 1: that means they're gonna win it. But or Dallas or

1954
01:43:08,800 --> 01:43:12,040
Speaker 1: Dallas but none who has a new looking for a

1955
01:43:12,080 --> 01:43:17,719
Speaker 1: new GM. Nonetheless, the Pacers getting back in that trade

1956
01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:21,519
Speaker 1: their twenty twenty six first round pick is huge, huge,

1957
01:43:21,560 --> 01:43:25,439
Speaker 1: now because there is a very high possibility at this

1958
01:43:25,680 --> 01:43:28,240
Speaker 1: point a lot of basketball to be played that that

1959
01:43:28,240 --> 01:43:30,360
Speaker 1: could be let's say, a top ten pick, a top

1960
01:43:30,479 --> 01:43:34,799
Speaker 1: eight pick. And if it is. If that's the case,

1961
01:43:35,000 --> 01:43:37,400
Speaker 1: then I think you look at it, Eddie, and you say, okay,

1962
01:43:38,600 --> 01:43:40,559
Speaker 1: you know you need to replace. If you're looking at

1963
01:43:40,640 --> 01:43:43,200
Speaker 1: last year's finals lineup, you know you need to replace

1964
01:43:43,240 --> 01:43:50,719
Speaker 1: Miles Turner. Okay. And then you have Benedict Matherin. Benedict Matherin,

1965
01:43:52,120 --> 01:43:55,519
Speaker 1: who if you let him go into free agency, is

1966
01:43:55,520 --> 01:44:00,800
Speaker 1: probably gone somebody. The Washington Wizards, or the New Orleans

1967
01:44:00,880 --> 01:44:05,920
Speaker 1: Pelicans or the Phoenix Suns, they are all destined to

1968
01:44:06,080 --> 01:44:09,040
Speaker 1: break the bank and make him the next Bradley Beal.

1969
01:44:10,479 --> 01:44:15,160
Speaker 1: Come here. An average twenty eighty game Indiana is not

1970
01:44:15,160 --> 01:44:16,439
Speaker 1: going to get in that sort of a bidding war

1971
01:44:16,520 --> 01:44:20,160
Speaker 1: for bend Nc Matheren. Wonderful player, wonderful talent, decent guy,

1972
01:44:21,920 --> 01:44:26,320
Speaker 1: great from what I understand, I'm not in the locker room,

1973
01:44:27,280 --> 01:44:30,080
Speaker 1: but I think good teammate. There's nothing about Bendedic Matheren

1974
01:44:30,160 --> 01:44:33,960
Speaker 1: that you dislike personally. There's really not at you dislike

1975
01:44:34,000 --> 01:44:38,679
Speaker 1: about him professionally except for the style that he plays.

1976
01:44:39,120 --> 01:44:42,240
Speaker 1: In the area where he accelerate or where he excels

1977
01:44:43,520 --> 01:44:46,559
Speaker 1: are styles that are not necessarily conducive to how Indiana

1978
01:44:46,600 --> 01:44:52,160
Speaker 1: wants to play. And so if based on that, you

1979
01:44:52,280 --> 01:44:54,559
Speaker 1: know you're not going to break the bank to resign him,

1980
01:44:54,840 --> 01:45:00,840
Speaker 1: then you want to recoup what you can to get

1981
01:45:00,880 --> 01:45:04,080
Speaker 1: what you can for him if you trade him, and

1982
01:45:04,160 --> 01:45:07,040
Speaker 1: I think Eddie, and you tell me if you think

1983
01:45:07,080 --> 01:45:11,320
Speaker 1: this is crazy. If you have a top ten pick,

1984
01:45:14,439 --> 01:45:18,040
Speaker 1: you utilize that top ten pick, you take Benedict Mathern

1985
01:45:18,120 --> 01:45:23,000
Speaker 1: just before the trade deadline, and you trade Matherin for

1986
01:45:23,080 --> 01:45:26,679
Speaker 1: the Miles Turner air apparent. I don't think it's Jay Huff,

1987
01:45:26,720 --> 01:45:28,439
Speaker 1: I don't think it's Tony Bradley. I don't think it's

1988
01:45:28,439 --> 01:45:34,360
Speaker 1: Isaiah Jackson. I think you take Benedick Matherin and you

1989
01:45:34,439 --> 01:45:37,200
Speaker 1: flip him and send him to a team that has

1990
01:45:37,240 --> 01:45:43,280
Speaker 1: a Miles Turner, rim protecting, outside shooting big available. There's

1991
01:45:43,320 --> 01:45:44,799
Speaker 1: not a lot of those guys, don't get me wrong,

1992
01:45:45,120 --> 01:45:49,320
Speaker 1: not a lot of them. So they have value, but

1993
01:45:49,479 --> 01:45:52,720
Speaker 1: that value could be and a Benedict mathern In like

1994
01:45:52,760 --> 01:45:55,280
Speaker 1: a sign in trade, or if they think they're getting

1995
01:45:55,360 --> 01:45:58,160
Speaker 1: a cornerstone wing player that can give them twenty to

1996
01:45:58,200 --> 01:46:00,920
Speaker 1: twenty two a night, willing to give up a guy

1997
01:46:00,920 --> 01:46:04,320
Speaker 1: that gives them thirteen and eight, so you bring back

1998
01:46:04,439 --> 01:46:10,160
Speaker 1: via the trade Turner's replacement. Then you now need to

1999
01:46:10,280 --> 01:46:15,320
Speaker 1: replace Matherin in the form of a sixth or seventh

2000
01:46:15,400 --> 01:46:19,200
Speaker 1: man that is instant offense off the bench, and that

2001
01:46:19,240 --> 01:46:23,040
Speaker 1: you can find by drafting someone like that within the

2002
01:46:23,080 --> 01:46:27,720
Speaker 1: top ten, because you're getting a young player that theoretically

2003
01:46:27,800 --> 01:46:30,519
Speaker 1: is a mega talent at that level, and you are

2004
01:46:30,640 --> 01:46:33,519
Speaker 1: able to give them a couple of years to groom

2005
01:46:33,600 --> 01:46:40,040
Speaker 1: and blossom and grow while on a team friendly salary.

2006
01:46:41,080 --> 01:46:47,120
Speaker 1: And then once you've gotten through this push of everybody

2007
01:46:47,160 --> 01:46:50,880
Speaker 1: reacquainting and giving it one last run, with Siakam still

2008
01:46:50,920 --> 01:46:54,280
Speaker 1: in his prime and Haliburton and his prime, you do

2009
01:46:54,400 --> 01:46:57,000
Speaker 1: that and then once you have to dissolve that unit,

2010
01:46:57,200 --> 01:46:59,160
Speaker 1: now you have the guy that you drafted in the

2011
01:46:59,200 --> 01:47:01,720
Speaker 1: first round in twenty twenty six ready to take the

2012
01:47:01,760 --> 01:47:03,320
Speaker 1: next step and be an everyday starter.

2013
01:47:03,400 --> 01:47:06,080
Speaker 2: For I look at a team like the seventy six ers,

2014
01:47:06,080 --> 01:47:08,080
Speaker 2: who were not good last year because they were so

2015
01:47:09,520 --> 01:47:12,880
Speaker 2: depleted with injuries between Paul George and Joel Embiid, and

2016
01:47:13,000 --> 01:47:15,720
Speaker 2: it resulted in them having a premium pick, and they

2017
01:47:15,720 --> 01:47:19,920
Speaker 2: get VJ. Edgecombe, who has been really really good sixteen

2018
01:47:19,960 --> 01:47:22,840
Speaker 2: a games, six rebounds, four assists, shooting forty three percent

2019
01:47:22,880 --> 01:47:26,120
Speaker 2: from the field, and he's among league leaders in minutes played.

2020
01:47:26,240 --> 01:47:28,400
Speaker 2: And I don't think they're regretting that at all. So

2021
01:47:29,080 --> 01:47:31,760
Speaker 2: this is an opportunity for the Pacers to kind of

2022
01:47:31,880 --> 01:47:35,000
Speaker 2: get another bite at the apples. Our good friend Jimmy

2023
01:47:35,000 --> 01:47:38,559
Speaker 2: Cookie used to say, Jake of getting another guy to

2024
01:47:38,640 --> 01:47:41,479
Speaker 2: be next to Tyrese Halliburn. If at the end of

2025
01:47:41,520 --> 01:47:45,640
Speaker 2: the season, the Pacers front office doesn't think that benedicte

2026
01:47:45,640 --> 01:47:49,840
Speaker 2: Maathering could be the next piece with Tyres beyond when

2027
01:47:50,080 --> 01:47:52,600
Speaker 2: Pascal Siakam is with the Pacers.

2028
01:47:52,240 --> 01:47:55,840
Speaker 1: Right well, in Siakam, you've got the only thing that

2029
01:47:56,160 --> 01:48:01,320
Speaker 1: kind of worries me. Everything's about timeline, and you want

2030
01:48:01,320 --> 01:48:03,400
Speaker 1: to make sure that timelines are all parallel and that

2031
01:48:03,479 --> 01:48:06,920
Speaker 1: you have guys all in their prime simultaneously. And Siakam

2032
01:48:06,960 --> 01:48:10,080
Speaker 1: obviously is the one that has the years over the others.

2033
01:48:10,400 --> 01:48:14,320
Speaker 1: And the whole narrative when Siakam came here and we

2034
01:48:14,400 --> 01:48:18,000
Speaker 1: sat here and debated until the cows came home whether

2035
01:48:18,120 --> 01:48:22,400
Speaker 1: or not it was a good decision to resign on

2036
01:48:22,439 --> 01:48:25,559
Speaker 1: a max deal. And you know I was wrong in

2037
01:48:25,600 --> 01:48:28,600
Speaker 1: that in my hesitation, and the reason I had that

2038
01:48:28,680 --> 01:48:33,200
Speaker 1: hesitation though, is I was saying, you pay that much

2039
01:48:33,240 --> 01:48:35,400
Speaker 1: for a guy, but at the end of that deal

2040
01:48:35,520 --> 01:48:38,000
Speaker 1: he once he is starting to phase out of it.

2041
01:48:38,040 --> 01:48:41,559
Speaker 1: Have you now overpaid for lack of production? And the

2042
01:48:41,920 --> 01:48:46,640
Speaker 1: counter to that, which was correct, was, Jake, you're not

2043
01:48:46,720 --> 01:48:49,360
Speaker 1: looking at the numbers in the fact that he has

2044
01:48:49,439 --> 01:48:52,559
Speaker 1: not logged the minutes in Toronto that most players at

2045
01:48:52,560 --> 01:48:56,240
Speaker 1: that age have logged, and so therefore he is actually

2046
01:48:56,280 --> 01:48:58,599
Speaker 1: going to be more fresh at the end of this

2047
01:48:58,720 --> 01:49:01,280
Speaker 1: than most players would be at that point. And that

2048
01:49:01,520 --> 01:49:06,000
Speaker 1: was true and for the most part, still holds true. However, Eddie,

2049
01:49:06,600 --> 01:49:09,120
Speaker 1: the counter to that would be the fact that this

2050
01:49:09,320 --> 01:49:14,439
Speaker 1: year you might be making up for those years in

2051
01:49:14,520 --> 01:49:20,639
Speaker 1: which Pascal Siakam was nothing more than you know, nothing

2052
01:49:20,880 --> 01:49:22,680
Speaker 1: that comes off the wrong way, but a guy that

2053
01:49:22,760 --> 01:49:27,479
Speaker 1: had been kind of reserved in his minutes. And now

2054
01:49:28,160 --> 01:49:30,519
Speaker 1: you're overcompensating for that because of the amount of time

2055
01:49:30,520 --> 01:49:31,880
Speaker 1: that he's going to have to play, because of all

2056
01:49:31,880 --> 01:49:34,679
Speaker 1: the injuries around him. And do you need to scale

2057
01:49:34,760 --> 01:49:38,760
Speaker 1: that back? Do you need to say, you know what,

2058
01:49:39,040 --> 01:49:42,120
Speaker 1: we're going to now put him on not minute restriction,

2059
01:49:42,280 --> 01:49:45,639
Speaker 1: but be more conscientious, be more aware of the minute

2060
01:49:45,680 --> 01:49:49,320
Speaker 1: that he's getting. But when you look at where the

2061
01:49:49,360 --> 01:49:56,240
Speaker 1: pacers could theoretically be, not even necessarily this coming year.

2062
01:49:56,320 --> 01:49:58,360
Speaker 1: So if this is the if we are right now

2063
01:49:58,439 --> 01:50:02,439
Speaker 1: in the twenty five twenty six season, then you get

2064
01:50:02,479 --> 01:50:07,280
Speaker 1: the twenty six twenty seven season. That is the reacclimation

2065
01:50:07,479 --> 01:50:15,040
Speaker 1: period with Tyrese Haliburton. That's the you know, the working

2066
01:50:15,080 --> 01:50:17,479
Speaker 1: the kings out and figuring out what does and doesn't

2067
01:50:17,520 --> 01:50:19,840
Speaker 1: work and how much he can be a percentage of

2068
01:50:19,880 --> 01:50:22,479
Speaker 1: what he was before. But you give him, literally with

2069
01:50:22,520 --> 01:50:25,200
Speaker 1: an achilles like that, the entire year. And I know

2070
01:50:25,320 --> 01:50:29,479
Speaker 1: right now that the early returns of the early look

2071
01:50:29,560 --> 01:50:31,200
Speaker 1: is that he looks very good and he's cutting and

2072
01:50:31,240 --> 01:50:34,400
Speaker 1: he's doing a lot of things that make you very optimistic,

2073
01:50:35,840 --> 01:50:41,120
Speaker 1: but you still give that a year to settle itself out.

2074
01:50:41,720 --> 01:50:45,320
Speaker 1: Then when you get to and it sounds like forever away,

2075
01:50:45,400 --> 01:50:49,200
Speaker 1: it does the twenty twenty seven twenty twenty eight season,

2076
01:50:51,080 --> 01:50:55,040
Speaker 1: that sounds like forever away, But it's the year after next.

2077
01:50:55,680 --> 01:50:59,360
Speaker 1: If everything goes right, Eddie, that year it would seem

2078
01:50:59,400 --> 01:51:02,360
Speaker 1: as though and it would it would. It feels like

2079
01:51:02,479 --> 01:51:05,240
Speaker 1: they would be. They're going to be loaded, absolutely loaded,

2080
01:51:05,400 --> 01:51:08,599
Speaker 1: and that's a group then that can win you mid

2081
01:51:08,640 --> 01:51:12,320
Speaker 1: fifties to sixty games if everybody's healthy and everything goes

2082
01:51:12,360 --> 01:51:17,479
Speaker 1: according to plan. But not everything that you plan on

2083
01:51:17,560 --> 01:51:22,400
Speaker 1: happening happens, as evidenced by the fact that our next

2084
01:51:22,400 --> 01:51:26,280
Speaker 1: guest is going to join the show, Eddie book did.

2085
01:51:26,320 --> 01:51:28,240
Speaker 1: I had nothing to do with that. Derek Schultz joins

2086
01:51:28,320 --> 01:51:33,120
Speaker 1: us next now the one thing I know, and thank goodness,

2087
01:51:33,240 --> 01:51:38,800
Speaker 1: Eddie Garrison did not oblige, but Derek Schultz set to

2088
01:51:38,880 --> 01:51:41,280
Speaker 1: join us here shortly do we have Derek Eddie Eddie,

2089
01:51:41,560 --> 01:51:42,479
Speaker 1: So I.

2090
01:51:42,479 --> 01:51:44,439
Speaker 2: Was just trying to call him, either sent me to

2091
01:51:44,479 --> 01:51:46,000
Speaker 2: voicemail or he didn't answer the phone.

2092
01:51:46,280 --> 01:51:53,439
Speaker 1: That's a stunner. Leave it to Derek to be less

2093
01:51:53,479 --> 01:51:58,200
Speaker 1: than accommodating. But it is my understanding that Derek had

2094
01:51:58,200 --> 01:52:00,759
Speaker 1: requested Eddie asked me. He said, what what songs should

2095
01:52:00,760 --> 01:52:02,559
Speaker 1: we do? This has gone well because Eddie said what

2096
01:52:02,600 --> 01:52:04,360
Speaker 1: songs should we play to bring in Derek? And I said,

2097
01:52:04,400 --> 01:52:07,080
Speaker 1: probably play Hanson because that's his favorite band. And we

2098
01:52:07,160 --> 01:52:09,160
Speaker 1: come back with dire Straits and then Derek's not there.

2099
01:52:09,920 --> 01:52:13,559
Speaker 1: He's probably boycotting because you couldn't get the Hanson fired up? Right,

2100
01:52:16,000 --> 01:52:18,960
Speaker 1: Eddie is feverishly, Now what are you feverishly doing over there?

2101
01:52:20,520 --> 01:52:24,000
Speaker 2: Once again did not answer, so I have to text him,

2102
01:52:24,000 --> 01:52:27,439
Speaker 2: even though he told me two thirty.

2103
01:52:26,680 --> 01:52:29,640
Speaker 1: Derek's very important. Now he's got this high flut and

2104
01:52:29,760 --> 01:52:32,320
Speaker 1: marketing job and now all of a sudden, like he's

2105
01:52:32,320 --> 01:52:38,040
Speaker 1: too important to do stuff, always running around. I mean,

2106
01:52:38,080 --> 01:52:40,280
Speaker 1: people were sitting here clamoring for it. They're like, oh,

2107
01:52:40,600 --> 01:52:43,960
Speaker 1: and this is again I try to drop the guy bone.

2108
01:52:44,080 --> 01:52:44,280
Speaker 3: Now.

2109
01:52:44,280 --> 01:52:47,800
Speaker 1: I believe that Greg and Derek both will be filling

2110
01:52:47,840 --> 01:52:51,480
Speaker 1: in for me next week. I will be off tomorrow.

2111
01:52:51,560 --> 01:52:54,280
Speaker 1: I'll be doing the show until about now and then

2112
01:52:54,400 --> 01:52:58,760
Speaker 1: JAMV thankfully, and I am most appreciative. John is being

2113
01:52:58,760 --> 01:53:04,120
Speaker 1: the ultimate teammate, taking over an hour earlier tomorrow so

2114
01:53:04,160 --> 01:53:05,720
Speaker 1: that I can get to the airport. Hopefully there is

2115
01:53:05,760 --> 01:53:08,680
Speaker 1: no delay or cancelation. Knock on wood. And then I

2116
01:53:08,720 --> 01:53:12,400
Speaker 1: am on vacation Thursday, Friday, and then Monday and Tuesday

2117
01:53:12,439 --> 01:53:14,760
Speaker 1: of next week as well. Joining us now in the

2118
01:53:14,840 --> 01:53:18,040
Speaker 1: Java House Peel and poor guest line Jake. Twenty five

2119
01:53:18,160 --> 01:53:21,040
Speaker 1: is the discount code for Java House Java house dot com.

2120
01:53:21,200 --> 01:53:24,800
Speaker 1: Derek Schultz joins us on the program. Derek, I thought

2121
01:53:24,840 --> 01:53:27,439
Speaker 1: you sabotaged it here because Eddie said that he was

2122
01:53:27,479 --> 01:53:29,280
Speaker 1: going to get you and he was gonna play Hanson

2123
01:53:29,360 --> 01:53:32,639
Speaker 1: for you coming back, and we ended up with dire straits.

2124
01:53:32,760 --> 01:53:34,880
Speaker 1: And we were in dire straits because you weren't answering

2125
01:53:34,880 --> 01:53:35,920
Speaker 1: your phone. Shock.

2126
01:53:36,080 --> 01:53:39,559
Speaker 10: Sorry, I was actually picking up some Java House. It's

2127
01:53:39,600 --> 01:53:41,920
Speaker 10: like twenty five below zero right now, at least it

2128
01:53:41,960 --> 01:53:44,679
Speaker 10: feels that way in Indianapolis, so I needed a pick

2129
01:53:44,720 --> 01:53:46,720
Speaker 10: me up, not only to warm me up, but to

2130
01:53:46,760 --> 01:53:47,320
Speaker 10: wake me up.

2131
01:53:49,160 --> 01:53:51,479
Speaker 1: What are you got going on that's got you tired?

2132
01:53:52,240 --> 01:53:54,759
Speaker 10: It's tough, man. Remote work is hard when you're working

2133
01:53:54,760 --> 01:53:58,400
Speaker 10: from home. So I'm just you know, doing some work,

2134
01:53:58,479 --> 01:54:01,560
Speaker 10: answering some emails writing some stuff, and I got my

2135
01:54:01,640 --> 01:54:04,040
Speaker 10: heated blanky and I got my Java house. So I'm good.

2136
01:54:04,160 --> 01:54:05,400
Speaker 10: I'm life's good.

2137
01:54:05,920 --> 01:54:06,960
Speaker 1: So you don't have a snuggie.

2138
01:54:08,760 --> 01:54:11,040
Speaker 10: I still have my snuggy. I haven't broken it out yet.

2139
01:54:11,040 --> 01:54:12,920
Speaker 10: It's with the rest of the winter stuff because I

2140
01:54:12,960 --> 01:54:15,080
Speaker 10: was not expecting it to be winter on whatever.

2141
01:54:15,120 --> 01:54:16,880
Speaker 3: Today is November? What is it eleven?

2142
01:54:17,880 --> 01:54:18,920
Speaker 1: I mean, who was right?

2143
01:54:19,320 --> 01:54:19,519
Speaker 3: Uh?

2144
01:54:19,520 --> 01:54:21,920
Speaker 1: Did you? Obviously, Derek? You and I have talked about this,

2145
01:54:22,000 --> 01:54:23,760
Speaker 1: but the cold sitting at eight and two, let's begin

2146
01:54:23,840 --> 01:54:26,439
Speaker 1: with that. You know you have followed I think most

2147
01:54:26,479 --> 01:54:29,599
Speaker 1: people that know you know that growing up you were

2148
01:54:29,640 --> 01:54:31,720
Speaker 1: a Giants fan, and so I would imagine that that

2149
01:54:31,840 --> 01:54:34,120
Speaker 1: means that indirectly you kind of keep at least one

2150
01:54:34,120 --> 01:54:36,600
Speaker 1: eye on them, or have over the years. So you

2151
01:54:36,680 --> 01:54:39,480
Speaker 1: knew of Daniel Jones coming in, and that's all ancient

2152
01:54:39,560 --> 01:54:42,240
Speaker 1: history when it comes to Jones as a Giant. However,

2153
01:54:43,240 --> 01:54:46,000
Speaker 1: are you concerned at all about the fact that the

2154
01:54:46,080 --> 01:54:49,320
Speaker 1: last two weeks we've started to see the turnover bugaboo

2155
01:54:49,920 --> 01:54:52,120
Speaker 1: rear at ugly head when it comes to Daniel Jones.

2156
01:54:52,880 --> 01:54:56,040
Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, I think it's kind of two separate things.

2157
01:54:56,280 --> 01:54:59,680
Speaker 10: I think there is a concern over the ball security.

2158
01:54:59,720 --> 01:55:03,040
Speaker 10: I mean, he's got to be better about protecting the football,

2159
01:55:03,080 --> 01:55:05,480
Speaker 10: and I understand sometimes on those strip secks there's nothing

2160
01:55:05,480 --> 01:55:07,120
Speaker 10: that you can do about it, right, but what are

2161
01:55:07,120 --> 01:55:09,960
Speaker 10: we talking about? Six fumbles in two games that just

2162
01:55:10,000 --> 01:55:13,040
Speaker 10: can't happen. You have to be less reckless with the

2163
01:55:13,040 --> 01:55:17,240
Speaker 10: ball than that. But I think the other issue is

2164
01:55:17,240 --> 01:55:19,480
Speaker 10: the fact that he's just been under a lot of

2165
01:55:19,560 --> 01:55:23,120
Speaker 10: duress and the pressure rate has skyrocketed since the first

2166
01:55:23,200 --> 01:55:25,840
Speaker 10: seven games compared to the last two with what Pittsburgh

2167
01:55:25,920 --> 01:55:28,400
Speaker 10: and Atlanta had been able to do. And I think

2168
01:55:28,400 --> 01:55:30,560
Speaker 10: that that's less of the Jones problem and just more

2169
01:55:30,560 --> 01:55:34,200
Speaker 10: of a protection problem in general. Any quarterback that you

2170
01:55:34,280 --> 01:55:36,640
Speaker 10: pressure to the amount that Jones has been pressured in

2171
01:55:36,680 --> 01:55:38,280
Speaker 10: the last two games, I think it was like eighteen

2172
01:55:38,320 --> 01:55:41,040
Speaker 10: percent or something crazy. Don't quote me on that, but

2173
01:55:41,080 --> 01:55:43,280
Speaker 10: I think that's the statistic that I saw familiar today

2174
01:55:43,280 --> 01:55:46,560
Speaker 10: on ex Twitter or whatever. And anybody that you do

2175
01:55:46,640 --> 01:55:48,800
Speaker 10: that too is going to get rattled and have some issues.

2176
01:55:48,840 --> 01:55:52,280
Speaker 10: And I think really the fact that he's been pressured

2177
01:55:52,280 --> 01:55:54,000
Speaker 10: a lot more in the last two games has caused

2178
01:55:54,040 --> 01:55:55,680
Speaker 10: some of the issues that we've seen. But Jake at

2179
01:55:55,680 --> 01:55:57,880
Speaker 10: the end of the day. I'm going off the top

2180
01:55:57,880 --> 01:56:01,960
Speaker 10: of my head here, but nineteen to twenty five through

2181
01:56:02,000 --> 01:56:06,200
Speaker 10: a tud interception fumble, Like, if that is Daniel Jones

2182
01:56:06,240 --> 01:56:08,160
Speaker 10: in a DF game, then sign me up for that.

2183
01:56:08,200 --> 01:56:10,200
Speaker 10: I mean, that's pretty good if that's a bad game.

2184
01:56:10,240 --> 01:56:12,720
Speaker 10: And he led the game tying and then eventually the

2185
01:56:12,720 --> 01:56:13,600
Speaker 10: game winning drives.

2186
01:56:13,680 --> 01:56:16,000
Speaker 1: But Derek, it's a lot like what we saw with

2187
01:56:16,040 --> 01:56:18,720
Speaker 1: Indiana football, and we've talked about with Mendoza and the

2188
01:56:18,800 --> 01:56:22,240
Speaker 1: fact that yes, you get a play or a drive

2189
01:56:22,480 --> 01:56:26,360
Speaker 1: or a throw down the stretch that offsets a previous

2190
01:56:26,480 --> 01:56:29,920
Speaker 1: driver or a previous moment, and you say to yourself, look,

2191
01:56:30,160 --> 01:56:32,720
Speaker 1: you take that every day of the week. But at

2192
01:56:32,760 --> 01:56:36,680
Speaker 1: some point, are you not running the risk of flirting

2193
01:56:36,720 --> 01:56:40,000
Speaker 1: with danger in the fact that you could only bail

2194
01:56:40,040 --> 01:56:42,040
Speaker 1: yourself out so many times.

2195
01:56:43,000 --> 01:56:46,200
Speaker 10: Yeah, of course you're always flirting with danger when it

2196
01:56:46,240 --> 01:56:50,800
Speaker 10: comes to that, and you're always trying to be cognizant

2197
01:56:51,000 --> 01:56:54,160
Speaker 10: of you know, what is real and what's not, and

2198
01:56:54,200 --> 01:56:58,240
Speaker 10: what's sustainable and what's not. And you look at not

2199
01:56:58,280 --> 01:57:00,760
Speaker 10: even Jones, but just what the Cults did over the

2200
01:57:00,760 --> 01:57:03,640
Speaker 10: first six or seven games of the season, and they're

2201
01:57:03,720 --> 01:57:07,160
Speaker 10: the most historically efficient offense this century in the NFL.

2202
01:57:07,200 --> 01:57:09,320
Speaker 10: And then I think deep down you kind of knew, Okay,

2203
01:57:09,800 --> 01:57:12,920
Speaker 10: while this offense is good, they're probably not going to

2204
01:57:13,000 --> 01:57:15,840
Speaker 10: be peak Tom Brady and peak Randy Moss and the

2205
01:57:15,880 --> 01:57:18,640
Speaker 10: twenty seven to sixteen to oh Patriots, Right. I mean,

2206
01:57:18,840 --> 01:57:22,360
Speaker 10: I think rational people understood that that was the case.

2207
01:57:22,680 --> 01:57:25,520
Speaker 10: But this still can be a really good offense and

2208
01:57:25,560 --> 01:57:27,280
Speaker 10: the best office in the league and the most efficient

2209
01:57:27,280 --> 01:57:29,960
Speaker 10: offense in the league. And I think that even comes

2210
01:57:30,000 --> 01:57:33,640
Speaker 10: with some natural regression from the level that Daniel Jones

2211
01:57:34,440 --> 01:57:37,600
Speaker 10: was playing at. But I just tried Jake to add

2212
01:57:37,680 --> 01:57:41,000
Speaker 10: everything up as it's happening. I'm less reactionary in a

2213
01:57:41,040 --> 01:57:44,120
Speaker 10: game by game basis that I'm more working on sample size.

2214
01:57:44,200 --> 01:57:47,280
Speaker 10: I'm a sample guy, and through nine games this year,

2215
01:57:47,880 --> 01:57:49,800
Speaker 10: I think you have to be thrilled with what this

2216
01:57:49,880 --> 01:57:52,440
Speaker 10: offense has been able to do. And a big portion

2217
01:57:52,560 --> 01:57:55,080
Speaker 10: of that has been what Jones has been able to

2218
01:57:55,120 --> 01:57:57,120
Speaker 10: do in stabilizing that quarterback position.

2219
01:57:57,360 --> 01:58:00,040
Speaker 1: By the way, speaking of you being less reactionary, do

2220
01:58:00,120 --> 01:58:04,760
Speaker 1: you recall I've mentioned this to you before probably one

2221
01:58:04,840 --> 01:58:07,720
Speaker 1: hundred times, but your reaction when I showed up at

2222
01:58:07,720 --> 01:58:09,600
Speaker 1: your bachelor party and you wanted to fight me. Do

2223
01:58:09,640 --> 01:58:10,120
Speaker 1: you remember that?

2224
01:58:11,440 --> 01:58:13,440
Speaker 10: Is it really where we're going to get? My bachelor

2225
01:58:13,440 --> 01:58:14,760
Speaker 10: party was in like twenty thirteen.

2226
01:58:15,840 --> 01:58:16,400
Speaker 3: Do you think your.

2227
01:58:16,320 --> 01:58:20,200
Speaker 10: Listeners are interested in hearing about you?

2228
01:58:20,200 --> 01:58:22,440
Speaker 1: You? I showed up and you were in the alley

2229
01:58:22,520 --> 01:58:24,560
Speaker 1: shadow boxing, and then you said.

2230
01:58:24,520 --> 01:58:26,000
Speaker 3: Oh okay.

2231
01:58:26,080 --> 01:58:28,200
Speaker 9: Yeah.

2232
01:58:28,240 --> 01:58:32,640
Speaker 10: My memory of that night is a little hazy. I

2233
01:58:32,640 --> 01:58:34,960
Speaker 10: think it was based on I was taking a new

2234
01:58:35,000 --> 01:58:36,360
Speaker 10: form of aspirin.

2235
01:58:36,040 --> 01:58:40,680
Speaker 1: And so I was now okay, taking a new form

2236
01:58:40,720 --> 01:58:44,680
Speaker 1: of aspirin. Yeah, are you okay? Are you a daily

2237
01:58:44,800 --> 01:58:45,680
Speaker 1: aspirin taker?

2238
01:58:45,840 --> 01:58:46,240
Speaker 3: Is that it?

2239
01:58:46,360 --> 01:58:49,640
Speaker 1: And suddenly like, how many forms aspirin? Is a leader?

2240
01:58:49,800 --> 01:58:52,440
Speaker 1: Literally a set of salastilic acid, Like there's only one

2241
01:58:52,520 --> 01:58:54,520
Speaker 1: form of it? How many forms could there be?

2242
01:58:55,640 --> 01:58:58,240
Speaker 10: I just, you know, I had a feeling a little

2243
01:58:58,240 --> 01:59:00,440
Speaker 10: bit under the weather. Had nothing to do with the

2244
01:59:00,480 --> 01:59:03,040
Speaker 10: German beers at Rascal or that we had started out

2245
01:59:03,080 --> 01:59:05,160
Speaker 10: the night with, which was a horrible decision. I don't

2246
01:59:05,200 --> 01:59:07,720
Speaker 10: know why we began a bachelor party at Rascal or

2247
01:59:07,720 --> 01:59:10,160
Speaker 10: that should usually be the end cap. But yeah, you know,

2248
01:59:10,360 --> 01:59:11,600
Speaker 10: I was a little bit in and out of it.

2249
01:59:11,680 --> 01:59:12,480
Speaker 10: So my memory was.

2250
01:59:12,480 --> 01:59:13,280
Speaker 3: A little bit hazy.

2251
01:59:13,320 --> 01:59:16,080
Speaker 10: Not alcohol related, but I don't remember shadow boxing. I

2252
01:59:16,080 --> 01:59:18,040
Speaker 10: do remember you showing up and people making a big

2253
01:59:18,080 --> 01:59:21,760
Speaker 10: deal about him sole away from my night, but that's

2254
01:59:21,760 --> 01:59:22,640
Speaker 10: about the extent of it.

2255
01:59:22,720 --> 01:59:25,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was awesome. Yeah, people were people were thrilled.

2256
01:59:25,720 --> 01:59:26,320
Speaker 1: I was like, man, this.

2257
01:59:26,560 --> 01:59:29,480
Speaker 10: I remember one of our mutual friends brought his wife

2258
01:59:30,000 --> 01:59:33,160
Speaker 10: to a bachelor party, so I do remember that as well.

2259
01:59:33,480 --> 01:59:37,440
Speaker 1: That was also a great decision. Yes, do you believe

2260
01:59:38,080 --> 01:59:40,720
Speaker 1: that there is a cap that the Colts should pay?

2261
01:59:40,800 --> 01:59:43,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I realized there's a salary cap, but uh,

2262
01:59:43,720 --> 01:59:46,720
Speaker 1: is Alec Pierce working himself, Derek, in your opinion, into

2263
01:59:46,760 --> 01:59:49,120
Speaker 1: the equation of being able to name his price?

2264
01:59:50,240 --> 01:59:52,560
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think I don't, and I don't think that

2265
01:59:52,640 --> 01:59:55,440
Speaker 10: this is a hot take to suggest this. I think

2266
01:59:55,480 --> 01:59:58,400
Speaker 10: he is their best receiver. And that is a statement

2267
01:59:58,440 --> 02:00:00,879
Speaker 10: that would have gotten you last out of the room

2268
02:00:01,560 --> 02:00:04,400
Speaker 10: two years ago, certainly three years ago. You know, the

2269
02:00:04,440 --> 02:00:06,840
Speaker 10: thing about Pierce is that even when you go back

2270
02:00:06,880 --> 02:00:09,440
Speaker 10: to like the twenty twenty three season, remember with Gardner

2271
02:00:09,440 --> 02:00:12,960
Speaker 10: Minshew and Gardner Minshew god bless him great mustache, he

2272
02:00:13,000 --> 02:00:15,800
Speaker 10: couldn't throw the ball ten yards, right, So when you

2273
02:00:15,840 --> 02:00:17,720
Speaker 10: have a guy that can't throw the ball ten yards

2274
02:00:17,880 --> 02:00:21,800
Speaker 10: Alec Pierce's greatest skill, his ability to go up and

2275
02:00:21,840 --> 02:00:25,040
Speaker 10: get and make big plays and stretch the field is

2276
02:00:25,080 --> 02:00:29,000
Speaker 10: pretty much neutralized completely. And so if you really dug

2277
02:00:29,040 --> 02:00:30,920
Speaker 10: deeper into twenty twenty three, I think you saw that

2278
02:00:30,960 --> 02:00:34,800
Speaker 10: there was something there that the Colts could utilize with Pierce.

2279
02:00:34,840 --> 02:00:37,000
Speaker 10: They just needed to get a quarterback that could utilize it.

2280
02:00:37,400 --> 02:00:40,640
Speaker 10: And while Richardson had his moments, because the one thing

2281
02:00:40,840 --> 02:00:43,120
Speaker 10: and probably the only thing that Anthony Richardson could do

2282
02:00:43,280 --> 02:00:46,720
Speaker 10: somewhat effectively was throw an accurate deep ball. We saw

2283
02:00:46,760 --> 02:00:49,240
Speaker 10: that work with Alec Pierce at times last year. I

2284
02:00:49,320 --> 02:00:51,880
Speaker 10: don't think I had any idea that he was going

2285
02:00:51,920 --> 02:00:57,320
Speaker 10: to turn into the well rounded route runner, blocker, do

2286
02:00:57,520 --> 02:01:00,520
Speaker 10: everything type receiver that I.

2287
02:01:00,520 --> 02:01:04,040
Speaker 1: Think it's the fact that he's also like he's a

2288
02:01:04,080 --> 02:01:07,480
Speaker 1: bubble screen to use that that overused term, but you

2289
02:01:07,520 --> 02:01:10,200
Speaker 1: know he'sn't at the line receiver as well. Right If

2290
02:01:10,240 --> 02:01:13,200
Speaker 1: you've got to basically just turning quick quick throw on

2291
02:01:13,360 --> 02:01:15,600
Speaker 1: the line to a guy that then you try to

2292
02:01:15,640 --> 02:01:17,440
Speaker 1: get in a crease or in space, he can do

2293
02:01:17,480 --> 02:01:21,680
Speaker 1: that as well. And it's interesting to me that when

2294
02:01:21,680 --> 02:01:24,280
Speaker 1: they had minshewed that, and maybe it was that Alec

2295
02:01:24,320 --> 02:01:27,720
Speaker 1: Pierce had to grow into that, but they didn't seemingly

2296
02:01:27,800 --> 02:01:30,120
Speaker 1: try to use him in any other way other than

2297
02:01:30,160 --> 02:01:31,240
Speaker 1: that prior to this year.

2298
02:01:32,240 --> 02:01:34,680
Speaker 10: Yeah, you're right, they were trying to use him as

2299
02:01:34,680 --> 02:01:37,280
Speaker 10: a one trick pony, and to be fair, we all

2300
02:01:37,320 --> 02:01:39,800
Speaker 10: thought that he was a one trick at least I did.

2301
02:01:39,920 --> 02:01:42,880
Speaker 10: I thought, Okay, he's you know, he's like that to

2302
02:01:42,920 --> 02:01:45,880
Speaker 10: make a Major League Baseball comparison, he's like that. He's

2303
02:01:45,920 --> 02:01:50,000
Speaker 10: like Glenn Allen Hill, you remember him. He's like, yeah,

2304
02:01:50,200 --> 02:01:52,200
Speaker 10: when he gets into one, he's going to launch it

2305
02:01:52,200 --> 02:01:54,840
Speaker 10: in outer space, like he was that type of player.

2306
02:01:54,880 --> 02:01:58,680
Speaker 10: But man, he's become not only such a well rounded piece,

2307
02:01:58,720 --> 02:02:02,520
Speaker 10: but such a critical one for the operation of their offense.

2308
02:02:02,560 --> 02:02:05,040
Speaker 10: I mean, you see what happens when he's not on

2309
02:02:05,080 --> 02:02:08,440
Speaker 10: the field and how it impacts everything. I mean, the

2310
02:02:08,480 --> 02:02:12,160
Speaker 10: fact that they felt so comfortable trading away a d Mitchell,

2311
02:02:12,560 --> 02:02:14,800
Speaker 10: I think tells you, and you don't get me wrong,

2312
02:02:14,840 --> 02:02:16,800
Speaker 10: some of that with Ady Mitchell's own fault, right, but

2313
02:02:16,840 --> 02:02:18,600
Speaker 10: I think it tells you how comfortable they are with

2314
02:02:19,440 --> 02:02:21,280
Speaker 10: Peers being their long term guy for sure.

2315
02:02:21,600 --> 02:02:23,840
Speaker 1: Derek, what is your level of concern? Derek Schultz is

2316
02:02:23,840 --> 02:02:25,960
Speaker 1: our guest. He's on the Java House Peel and poor

2317
02:02:26,040 --> 02:02:29,440
Speaker 1: guest line, What if anything, is your level of concern

2318
02:02:29,520 --> 02:02:34,920
Speaker 1: right now, Derek with concerns the wrong word, but maybe

2319
02:02:34,960 --> 02:02:38,080
Speaker 1: surprise that Purdue and I know that Trey kaffin Ren

2320
02:02:38,120 --> 02:02:41,640
Speaker 1: is not there switching to basketball. But the game against Oakland,

2321
02:02:41,720 --> 02:02:43,120
Speaker 1: I think there were a lot of people that thought

2322
02:02:43,160 --> 02:02:44,800
Speaker 1: that that would be one if you're number one in

2323
02:02:44,800 --> 02:02:47,839
Speaker 1: the country, that you get out to a fast start

2324
02:02:47,880 --> 02:02:50,240
Speaker 1: and you're just off and running. And they were thought

2325
02:02:50,280 --> 02:02:52,880
Speaker 1: to be and are still thought to be one of

2326
02:02:52,920 --> 02:02:55,680
Speaker 1: the deepest teams in college basketball. Is there any concern

2327
02:02:55,760 --> 02:02:58,600
Speaker 1: that it has yet to totally take flight for them?

2328
02:02:59,160 --> 02:03:03,120
Speaker 10: No, because I think you know what people forget even

2329
02:03:03,120 --> 02:03:05,800
Speaker 10: though they returned Braden Smith and Fletcher Lawyer and Trey

2330
02:03:05,840 --> 02:03:07,640
Speaker 10: coffin RN, who I know hasn't played through the first

2331
02:03:07,640 --> 02:03:09,720
Speaker 10: two games, and these guys that have played what like

2332
02:03:09,720 --> 02:03:12,400
Speaker 10: one hundred and ten games together, you know, Purdue, It's

2333
02:03:12,440 --> 02:03:13,880
Speaker 10: it's not like they're coming off the season where they

2334
02:03:13,880 --> 02:03:16,080
Speaker 10: were a Final four team or went to the National

2335
02:03:16,120 --> 02:03:18,400
Speaker 10: Championship game, right, I mean last year they didn't win

2336
02:03:18,440 --> 02:03:20,240
Speaker 10: the league. Yeah, they went to the second weekend. They

2337
02:03:20,280 --> 02:03:22,480
Speaker 10: were able to really kind of salvage a late season

2338
02:03:22,520 --> 02:03:24,960
Speaker 10: swoon and get to the Sweet sixteen. But for the

2339
02:03:24,960 --> 02:03:27,520
Speaker 10: most part, you know, it wasn't like they were a

2340
02:03:27,600 --> 02:03:29,480
Speaker 10: top five or a top ten level team. I mean,

2341
02:03:29,480 --> 02:03:31,120
Speaker 10: that was a good team last year. It wasn't a

2342
02:03:31,160 --> 02:03:34,120
Speaker 10: great one. So they haven't necessarily gone up there and

2343
02:03:34,400 --> 02:03:37,600
Speaker 10: earned anything yet. But I think part of it too,

2344
02:03:37,800 --> 02:03:41,560
Speaker 10: is that people just want to confirm their priors about Perdue.

2345
02:03:41,560 --> 02:03:43,240
Speaker 10: I don't I don't know if it's like the fairly

2346
02:03:43,320 --> 02:03:46,120
Speaker 10: Dickinson effect of like that's sticking with them or what.

2347
02:03:46,360 --> 02:03:50,000
Speaker 10: But anytime Purdue struggles at all, it's like, oh, whoa

2348
02:03:50,640 --> 02:03:54,120
Speaker 10: a little struggling again. They won't Perdue. Look, they miss

2349
02:03:54,120 --> 02:03:55,920
Speaker 10: shots in the first half a.

2350
02:03:57,640 --> 02:03:58,040
Speaker 3: Perdue.

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Speaker 10: They may they miss shots in the first half Jake

2352
02:04:01,680 --> 02:04:04,800
Speaker 10: that they make in their sleep. And if you make

2353
02:04:04,840 --> 02:04:07,440
Speaker 10: your threes early, then that's a drastically different game. I

2354
02:04:07,440 --> 02:04:09,520
Speaker 10: don't know, even if they were even in real danger

2355
02:04:10,000 --> 02:04:12,640
Speaker 10: of actually losing that game. You know, Greg Campy has

2356
02:04:12,640 --> 02:04:14,960
Speaker 10: been at Oakland for sixty five years or whatever. He

2357
02:04:15,040 --> 02:04:17,640
Speaker 10: knows what he's doing. That was a team that was

2358
02:04:17,640 --> 02:04:19,720
Speaker 10: playing with nothing to lose. I'm not reading into it

2359
02:04:19,760 --> 02:04:22,040
Speaker 10: too much. They got a really tough game in Tuscal

2360
02:04:22,040 --> 02:04:25,360
Speaker 10: loose against an Alabama team that I think stylistically is

2361
02:04:25,400 --> 02:04:27,680
Speaker 10: going to and athletically is going to present for them

2362
02:04:27,680 --> 02:04:28,440
Speaker 10: some challenges.

2363
02:04:28,880 --> 02:04:29,720
Speaker 3: But once they get.

2364
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Speaker 10: Run back, you know, this is the most talented experience

2365
02:04:34,480 --> 02:04:36,640
Speaker 10: team that there is as far as when you talk

2366
02:04:36,640 --> 02:04:37,880
Speaker 10: about the guys that have been there, I mean, it's

2367
02:04:37,960 --> 02:04:41,200
Speaker 10: unheard of in today's landscape to have three seniors that

2368
02:04:41,240 --> 02:04:43,320
Speaker 10: have played one hundred and ten games together and two

2369
02:04:43,320 --> 02:04:45,440
Speaker 10: of whom are All Americans and another one is a

2370
02:04:45,520 --> 02:04:47,480
Speaker 10: borderline All Conference player. I think by the end of

2371
02:04:47,520 --> 02:04:50,080
Speaker 10: the day, Fletcher Lawyer will be knocking on the door

2372
02:04:50,120 --> 02:04:53,120
Speaker 10: for that. Oscar Kluff has been a great addition. I

2373
02:04:53,560 --> 02:04:55,120
Speaker 10: think ultimately they're going to be fine.

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Speaker 1: By the way, earlier we had people calling in with

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02:04:58,840 --> 02:05:01,520
Speaker 1: their best turkey impression? Can you do it? Do you

2376
02:05:01,520 --> 02:05:02,560
Speaker 1: do a Turkey impression?

2377
02:05:03,440 --> 02:05:06,200
Speaker 3: WHOA? Hold on?

2378
02:05:06,560 --> 02:05:08,080
Speaker 1: Hold on one more time?

2379
02:05:09,240 --> 02:05:09,600
Speaker 3: WHOA?

2380
02:05:11,000 --> 02:05:12,640
Speaker 1: I think they go longer than that, don't they.

2381
02:05:13,600 --> 02:05:14,280
Speaker 3: I don't know, man?

2382
02:05:14,320 --> 02:05:14,920
Speaker 7: What like?

2383
02:05:15,640 --> 02:05:15,800
Speaker 3: Oh?

2384
02:05:16,400 --> 02:05:17,160
Speaker 1: I mean Eddie?

2385
02:05:17,560 --> 02:05:18,600
Speaker 10: I really like Eddie.

2386
02:05:18,640 --> 02:05:18,800
Speaker 3: Right.

2387
02:05:18,920 --> 02:05:20,600
Speaker 10: Eddie texts me and he's like, Hey, do you want

2388
02:05:20,640 --> 02:05:22,560
Speaker 10: to come on the show and come up against my

2389
02:05:22,600 --> 02:05:25,120
Speaker 10: better judgment. I'm like, sure, I'll come on the show

2390
02:05:25,200 --> 02:05:27,280
Speaker 10: if Jake feels like he needs me. I know what

2391
02:05:27,320 --> 02:05:30,520
Speaker 10: you're like before vacation is coming. And for people that

2392
02:05:30,600 --> 02:05:32,360
Speaker 10: don't know that are in the listening audience that that

2393
02:05:32,400 --> 02:05:34,800
Speaker 10: are maybe just new to Quiring Company. When you know,

2394
02:05:34,920 --> 02:05:37,520
Speaker 10: Jake is usually sort of checking out as it is,

2395
02:05:37,560 --> 02:05:40,400
Speaker 10: but especially when he's got a vacation looming, it gets

2396
02:05:40,400 --> 02:05:43,640
Speaker 10: all weird. Those shows right before Jake takes a break are.

2397
02:05:43,560 --> 02:05:44,440
Speaker 1: Like the weirdest shows.

2398
02:05:44,480 --> 02:05:47,440
Speaker 10: I don't think it's like a turkey and bringing up

2399
02:05:47,440 --> 02:05:49,960
Speaker 10: a bachelor party from fifteen years ago or whatever like

2400
02:05:50,040 --> 02:05:52,320
Speaker 10: this is. I should have expected that this was going

2401
02:05:52,400 --> 02:05:55,680
Speaker 10: to be like the line of questioning for the interview today.

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02:05:55,600 --> 02:05:58,720
Speaker 1: But I don't think it's asking too much on you know,

2403
02:05:58,760 --> 02:06:01,240
Speaker 1: with Thanksgiving coming up in the drumstick dash to promote it,

2404
02:06:01,240 --> 02:06:02,880
Speaker 1: for you to do a turkey, that's more than just

2405
02:06:02,920 --> 02:06:05,920
Speaker 1: like a half a second. Right, Well, look, man, this

2406
02:06:06,040 --> 02:06:06,560
Speaker 1: is your show.

2407
02:06:06,560 --> 02:06:09,080
Speaker 10: It's Querying Company, right, Query and Schultz is just you

2408
02:06:09,120 --> 02:06:10,880
Speaker 10: know once a week that that's not what this is.

2409
02:06:10,920 --> 02:06:14,640
Speaker 10: So if you say jump, I say how high?

2410
02:06:14,720 --> 02:06:17,880
Speaker 1: So I'm going to different than any other day to

2411
02:06:17,960 --> 02:06:18,400
Speaker 1: do here?

2412
02:06:18,680 --> 02:06:22,720
Speaker 10: No, I have more creative control over the other show

2413
02:06:22,720 --> 02:06:23,160
Speaker 10: that we do.

2414
02:06:23,840 --> 02:06:25,720
Speaker 3: Give me your show.

2415
02:06:26,280 --> 02:06:27,760
Speaker 1: You're in here next week, are you not?

2416
02:06:29,600 --> 02:06:32,800
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm doing Uh. I think I think Rake is

2417
02:06:32,840 --> 02:06:35,120
Speaker 10: doing like seven of the days that you're gone, and

2418
02:06:35,160 --> 02:06:39,080
Speaker 10: I'm doing the ap one.

2419
02:06:38,160 --> 02:06:40,320
Speaker 1: That's different than that's different than life.

2420
02:06:40,360 --> 02:06:44,040
Speaker 10: How you know, the problem is whenever we have the

2421
02:06:44,080 --> 02:06:46,920
Speaker 10: sign up sheet, you know that that kind of goes around.

2422
02:06:47,440 --> 02:06:49,880
Speaker 10: I'm just trying to scribble in Shultz somewhere in between

2423
02:06:49,880 --> 02:06:52,720
Speaker 10: all the Rake Grecrak. So, yeah, I think it's I

2424
02:06:52,760 --> 02:06:55,080
Speaker 10: think it's mostly Greg, and we love Greg. I think

2425
02:06:55,120 --> 02:06:56,960
Speaker 10: it's mostly Greg, and then I think I'm on Monday.

2426
02:06:57,200 --> 02:06:59,640
Speaker 1: He does do a turkey gobble that's longer than two seconds,

2427
02:06:59,680 --> 02:07:00,160
Speaker 1: just so you know.

2428
02:07:00,240 --> 02:07:02,680
Speaker 10: Oh, he's a professional broadcaster, way more than me.

2429
02:07:02,760 --> 02:07:04,040
Speaker 9: My man.

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02:07:04,400 --> 02:07:06,800
Speaker 1: There we go. Thank you Eddie, all right, Derek, thanks,

2431
02:07:06,880 --> 02:07:07,560
Speaker 1: appreciate it.

2432
02:07:08,120 --> 02:07:09,080
Speaker 10: Appreciate you guys see it.

2433
02:07:09,160 --> 02:07:11,600
Speaker 1: Derek Schultz joining us, Java House, Peel and poor guests.

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Speaker 1: I will come back. We'll find out with John's got

2435
02:07:13,120 --> 02:07:16,800
Speaker 1: loaded up on the program next. Thank you to Tom

2436
02:07:16,880 --> 02:07:20,280
Speaker 1: Crean earlier Derek Schultz on the program as well. We

2437
02:07:20,360 --> 02:07:24,480
Speaker 1: have to thank him. Scott Agnes talking about the Pacers,

2438
02:07:24,520 --> 02:07:27,640
Speaker 1: Pacers and Jazz Tonight. It is the crossover brought to

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Speaker 1: Love dash HVAC dot com is the website three one seven,

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Speaker 1: have one of these, best, man, I don't, man, you've got.

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Speaker 8: It like Employee of the Week too, runner up, Employee

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Speaker 8: the Week, runner up. I love Dave and the gang

2447
02:07:51,360 --> 02:07:53,280
Speaker 8: over there, man there, it just sets a bunch of

2448
02:07:53,480 --> 02:07:58,840
Speaker 8: great folks. Hey, can you name name the first ten

2449
02:08:00,440 --> 02:08:02,600
Speaker 8: Utah Jazz former players off the top of your head

2450
02:08:02,640 --> 02:08:05,960
Speaker 8: right now? Just any yeah, random, Just go random.

2451
02:08:05,760 --> 02:08:10,520
Speaker 1: Mark Eaton, Jeff Fourty second, John Stockton, Karl Malone, Yeah,

2452
02:08:10,840 --> 02:08:15,000
Speaker 1: Brian Russell or Byron Russell? Okay, boy too?

2453
02:08:15,080 --> 02:08:15,200
Speaker 3: Oh?

2454
02:08:15,240 --> 02:08:21,200
Speaker 1: Gordon Hayward, Uh, Mike or Mark Ivoroni.

2455
02:08:21,440 --> 02:08:23,839
Speaker 8: Was in Utah? He played for the Sixers.

2456
02:08:23,840 --> 02:08:26,360
Speaker 1: I know, I'm pretty sure he was Utah. Mike Conley,

2457
02:08:26,880 --> 02:08:30,480
Speaker 1: Mike Conley, that's a good one. How about Andre Owens?

2458
02:08:31,000 --> 02:08:32,480
Speaker 8: Andre Owens? He did play?

2459
02:08:32,640 --> 02:08:33,040
Speaker 1: Did he play?

2460
02:08:33,040 --> 02:08:33,960
Speaker 2: In Utah for a minute.

2461
02:08:34,040 --> 02:08:36,520
Speaker 8: I don't know. I don't know if andre Owen's played

2462
02:08:36,560 --> 02:08:36,960
Speaker 8: in Utah.

2463
02:08:37,160 --> 02:08:39,440
Speaker 2: Donovan Mitchell, Donovan Mitchell is a good one.

2464
02:08:39,800 --> 02:08:40,520
Speaker 1: Who am I missing?

2465
02:08:41,320 --> 02:08:44,240
Speaker 8: K forty seven? Would they go over today? If you

2466
02:08:44,320 --> 02:08:45,880
Speaker 8: had any man?

2467
02:08:46,160 --> 02:08:50,000
Speaker 1: How can you imagine that nickname today? From Russia?

2468
02:08:50,000 --> 02:08:51,360
Speaker 8: And I'm a K forty seven was.

2469
02:08:51,840 --> 02:08:54,040
Speaker 1: A player though he was, no question about it.

2470
02:08:54,080 --> 02:08:54,600
Speaker 3: He was.

2471
02:08:55,440 --> 02:08:57,680
Speaker 8: He may have been the widest player of the history

2472
02:08:57,720 --> 02:08:59,760
Speaker 8: of the NBA because he was just really pale. He

2473
02:08:59,840 --> 02:09:00,640
Speaker 8: was powder.

2474
02:09:00,800 --> 02:09:03,160
Speaker 1: He was. He fell down in the Russian snow and

2475
02:09:03,160 --> 02:09:04,680
Speaker 1: they didn't fight it for six months.

2476
02:09:06,320 --> 02:09:09,360
Speaker 8: Where is he a twin car?

2477
02:09:10,640 --> 02:09:11,080
Speaker 1: The one right?

2478
02:09:11,160 --> 02:09:13,480
Speaker 8: Thorough Bailey is one of my all time favorites.

2479
02:09:13,600 --> 02:09:16,160
Speaker 1: Jake was Okay, let me ask you this, Howard Eisley,

2480
02:09:16,720 --> 02:09:19,720
Speaker 1: I always got Antoine car and Xavier McDaniel confused, but

2481
02:09:19,760 --> 02:09:20,880
Speaker 1: McDaniel was Seattle.

2482
02:09:20,760 --> 02:09:22,160
Speaker 8: Because they both went to Wichita State.

2483
02:09:22,240 --> 02:09:26,200
Speaker 1: That's yeah, exactly. But yeah, tonight, nine o'clock pacers in

2484
02:09:26,320 --> 02:09:29,280
Speaker 1: jazz out in Utah. Let me look on andre Owens.

2485
02:09:29,840 --> 02:09:31,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. Can you look that up, Eddie? See

2486
02:09:31,800 --> 02:09:34,280
Speaker 1: if andre Owens played for the Utah Jazz. I know

2487
02:09:34,320 --> 02:09:37,200
Speaker 1: he was Greg Oaster Tag. That's a big one.

2488
02:09:37,320 --> 02:09:39,280
Speaker 8: Do you ever call him Oyster Tag like I did?

2489
02:09:39,440 --> 02:09:42,920
Speaker 1: Oaster Tag? Oyster Oaster Tag was at Kansas the same

2490
02:09:42,960 --> 02:09:44,560
Speaker 1: time as I. We came in the same year. And

2491
02:09:44,600 --> 02:09:47,360
Speaker 1: then his most famous moment moment in college. And he

2492
02:09:47,400 --> 02:09:49,080
Speaker 1: had a good career, but his most famous moment was

2493
02:09:49,120 --> 02:09:50,320
Speaker 1: high fiving Glenn Robinson.

2494
02:09:50,640 --> 02:09:53,720
Speaker 8: You know, if you'd been born Jake ten years earlier,

2495
02:09:53,760 --> 02:09:56,760
Speaker 8: he could have been in goonies and they would not

2496
02:09:56,800 --> 02:09:58,720
Speaker 8: have had to change the makeup once. So he looked

2497
02:09:58,760 --> 02:10:02,400
Speaker 8: exactly like sloth in guineas he.

2498
02:10:02,520 --> 02:10:05,280
Speaker 1: Had he and Brian reads both right, I.

2499
02:10:05,160 --> 02:10:07,520
Speaker 8: Think sloth than he could too.

2500
02:10:07,600 --> 02:10:09,840
Speaker 1: But what's on the big pro? Did he Eddie? Did

2501
02:10:09,840 --> 02:10:10,120
Speaker 1: you say?

2502
02:10:10,120 --> 02:10:13,520
Speaker 2: Andrey Owens was Yes, That's where he started his NBA career.

2503
02:10:13,640 --> 02:10:16,840
Speaker 8: Got you well done, Jake? With the Andre Owens.

2504
02:10:16,600 --> 02:10:18,400
Speaker 1: John, what's on the big program today?

2505
02:10:18,880 --> 02:10:22,240
Speaker 8: We have got Matt Surface, former AU linebacker's going to

2506
02:10:22,360 --> 02:10:25,000
Speaker 8: join us too. I you Wisconsin coming up this weekend?

2507
02:10:25,000 --> 02:10:27,080
Speaker 8: How about the role reversal with all you in Wisconsin.

2508
02:10:27,080 --> 02:10:29,280
Speaker 8: What's upon a time? Remember how we all fonned over

2509
02:10:29,320 --> 02:10:32,600
Speaker 8: Wisconsin and you know their state of the art football

2510
02:10:32,640 --> 02:10:36,120
Speaker 8: program and things have changed in the last year and

2511
02:10:36,120 --> 02:10:36,440
Speaker 8: a half.

2512
02:10:36,440 --> 02:10:40,560
Speaker 1: I almost wonder if Indiana hasn't replaced Wisconsin in that yeah, permanently,

2513
02:10:40,640 --> 02:10:41,440
Speaker 1: right in that power.

2514
02:10:41,600 --> 02:10:44,240
Speaker 8: Well, they're all hanging on to Luke Fickle and everybody

2515
02:10:44,280 --> 02:10:45,280
Speaker 8: up there's a man about that.

2516
02:10:45,440 --> 02:10:46,320
Speaker 2: And then Iu went.

2517
02:10:46,240 --> 02:10:49,280
Speaker 8: Out and got signetti and he's mewing it up.

2518
02:10:49,640 --> 02:10:52,600
Speaker 1: I thought, and I thought Fickle was, you know. I

2519
02:10:52,600 --> 02:10:53,800
Speaker 1: mean there was a time I remember it was like

2520
02:10:53,840 --> 02:10:55,480
Speaker 1: Ohio State's going to get him, you know, and then

2521
02:10:55,480 --> 02:10:56,600
Speaker 1: he ended up at Wisconsin.

2522
02:10:56,760 --> 02:10:58,960
Speaker 8: Maybe I'm a sweater vest guy too. I think his

2523
02:10:59,080 --> 02:11:02,840
Speaker 8: sweater vest. I love the sweater. Come the coat least

2524
02:11:02,920 --> 02:11:04,640
Speaker 8: this time of year because I get a little hot

2525
02:11:04,640 --> 02:11:05,160
Speaker 8: when I in.

2526
02:11:05,160 --> 02:11:07,640
Speaker 1: The brales do that as well? Yeah, oh yeah, sound

2527
02:11:07,680 --> 02:11:09,640
Speaker 1: like an Ohio State thing, because Trestle did that all

2528
02:11:09,840 --> 02:11:12,040
Speaker 1: you call that pseudo code or is that a vest?

2529
02:11:12,120 --> 02:11:15,640
Speaker 1: It's not a sweater vest. It's a cold vest, pseudo coat.

2530
02:11:15,800 --> 02:11:17,000
Speaker 1: Doesn't your arms get cold?

2531
02:11:17,000 --> 02:11:17,200
Speaker 9: Though?

2532
02:11:17,600 --> 02:11:18,880
Speaker 1: By the way, have you been have you been to

2533
02:11:18,880 --> 02:11:20,560
Speaker 1: the restroom down the hall? It's like forty eight degrees

2534
02:11:20,560 --> 02:11:21,720
Speaker 1: in there. Eddie and I were just talking.

2535
02:11:21,880 --> 02:11:23,560
Speaker 8: The one that plays the horn whenever you flesh it,

2536
02:11:24,040 --> 02:11:24,440
Speaker 8: I love it.

2537
02:11:24,440 --> 02:11:26,200
Speaker 2: You can always tell you to leave the hot water.

2538
02:11:26,720 --> 02:11:28,480
Speaker 8: And when somebody grows a tail in there, you know,

2539
02:11:28,640 --> 02:11:31,400
Speaker 8: because it sounds like Doc severed, so on the tonight

2540
02:11:31,480 --> 02:11:33,320
Speaker 8: show down there for.

2541
02:11:33,360 --> 02:11:38,920
Speaker 1: Like it is like literally you come in the building,

2542
02:11:39,000 --> 02:11:41,080
Speaker 1: you're like, what does that sound like? Somebody's about them?

2543
02:11:41,120 --> 02:11:41,840
Speaker 1: Thirty minutes ago.

2544
02:11:42,040 --> 02:11:43,640
Speaker 8: That's what I said to Pat Walls that time, and

2545
02:11:43,680 --> 02:11:45,560
Speaker 8: I saw him at the elevator. I says, thirty five

2546
02:11:45,560 --> 02:11:47,920
Speaker 8: million dollars building price tag. Come with the horn every

2547
02:11:47,920 --> 02:11:49,160
Speaker 8: time you flesh the toilet sound.

2548
02:11:50,400 --> 02:11:53,320
Speaker 1: I bet that one overwhelmed, didn't it? All right, John's

2549
02:11:53,400 --> 02:11:55,160
Speaker 1: up next. We will be back with you and then

2550
02:11:55,160 --> 02:11:58,760
Speaker 1: tomorrow and then John very appreciatively will be taking over

2551
02:11:58,840 --> 02:11:59,680
Speaker 1: for me an hour early.

2552
02:12:00,360 --> 02:12:02,680
Speaker 8: Man, I'm gonna wreck your rad You got good ratings too,

2553
02:12:02,680 --> 02:12:04,160
Speaker 8: and I'm just gonna wreck that stuff.

2554
02:12:04,240 --> 02:12:06,680
Speaker 1: That's right, John's up next. Thanks for listening to the

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02:12:06,720 --> 02:12:07,360
Speaker 1: Quarrying Company.