1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:01,400 Speaker 1: Casey, there are updates. 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 2: What are you talking about, Rob? 3 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: We have an update on that story that we covered 4 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: yesterday involving the allegations that employees in the Lieutenant Governor's 5 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: office were allegedly viewing artificial intelligence pornography deep fakes. This 6 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: is the most crazy. Like I've been covering Indiana politics 7 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: and government on and off for fifteen years nine here 8 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: at WIBC. This is the craziest story I think I've 9 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: ever heard. 10 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. It is pretty outstanding. 11 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: And the guy who broke the story we talked about 12 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: this yesterday. He is a national freelance journalist. His name 13 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: is Tom Lobiancle. You probably know him best. He wrote 14 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: a big x A book on Mike Pence a couple 15 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 1: of years ago. And he joins us now on the 16 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: WIBC hotline because we have updates. Let's read the headline. 17 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: Inde prosecutor probes topless, deep fake, Haggard blast, pornographic smear 18 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: of his wife. Tom Lobiancle joins us now to tell 19 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: us all. Tom Hello, hey guys. 20 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 3: Yes, as one of my sources told me yesterday, this 21 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 3: is one of the craziest things he's seen out of 22 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 3: the state House since Dwayne Brown was sucking women's toes. 23 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: Okay, so let's start with there's two big things that 24 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: you revealed this morning. One is Craig Haggard has gone public. 25 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,839 Speaker 1: It is his wife who is allegedly at the center 26 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: of having these deep fake pornographic videos made in shair. 27 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, yet so State Representative Craig Haggard represents suburban 28 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 3: Indi down in the Hendricks County. He issued a statement 29 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 3: to me over at a twenty four Sight news and 30 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 3: he says, my wife and I are outraged and saddened 31 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 3: that her singing at a charity event for mental health 32 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 3: was turned into a pornographic smear of her and our family. 33 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 3: State House leadership, rather than expressing concern for a victim 34 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 3: of this criminal act, instead went into full find the 35 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 3: leakers mode, seeking to cover up any role the Lieutenant 36 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 3: Governor's office may have played in this affront all women. 37 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: Okay, So is it safe to say then, obviously you 38 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: talked to him that he believes this occurred. 39 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 3: Oh yes, and he's not the only one, as we 40 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 3: report here. So the Mary County Prosecutor's Office yesterday began 41 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 3: interviewing people as part of their investigation into this, and 42 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 3: this appears to be developing very rapidly. 43 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: Okay. Tom Lebianco is our guest. He's a freelance journalist. 44 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: You know him from Fox News, MSNBC, the Associated Press, etc. 45 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: He is at the center of the stories, wrote these 46 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 1: stories involving allegations of deep fake pornography being viewed potentially 47 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: shared in the Lieutenant Governor's office casing. 48 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 4: So last night, Lieutenant Governor Beckwith he had a town 49 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 4: hall in Tara Hate. He was asked the video and 50 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 4: he said that he could not find evidence of it. 51 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 4: He said, it's baseless allegations. You have cited some anonymous sources. 52 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 4: I guess Tom, people are questioning, where's the proof in 53 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 4: any of this? 54 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know that's I mean, it's a good question, right, 55 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 3: And you know, as a veteran reporter, I think it's 56 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 3: it's important to you know, kind of lay out our 57 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 3: process as professionals here. You know, when I talk with 58 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 3: people who witness this, I am I provide them anonymity 59 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 3: to you know, further confidentiality to be able to talk 60 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,839 Speaker 3: about this and report on it so that they don't 61 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 3: face retribution from Michael Beckwith. For instance, you know beck 62 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 3: With as a report in today's story is you know, 63 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 3: has undergone a leak investigation. He's trying to find out 64 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 3: who's been talking to me. And so I will tell 65 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 3: you that I would not have published the original story 66 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:06,559 Speaker 3: or this story without having the information coming from different corners, 67 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 3: from different sources. Right. So, Like the example I like 68 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 3: to use is like, you know, I've called up Kendall. 69 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 3: He's like, he's like, yeah, man, Casey's racing in the 70 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 3: five hundred. This year is going to be bonkers, right. 71 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: Would would be awesome? 72 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 4: Right? 73 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 3: And then I call you up and you're like, all right, 74 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 3: you know, like on background, I'm racing in this right. 75 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 3: You know, if I call two people who are friends, 76 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 3: who are close, you know, saying the same thing, that's 77 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 3: only one source. And I this is more than that. 78 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 3: And I don't want to go too far out over 79 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 3: my skis because I want to protect the people who 80 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 3: are who have trusted me with their confidentiality, because this 81 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 3: is serious, as you know, as we've found out today 82 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 3: and or finding out it's potentially criminal. What's happening inside 83 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 3: lieutenant or what happened inside lieuten Governor's office. 84 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 4: You had mentioned just in this previous answer, there have 85 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 4: been more people who have seen this video than what 86 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 4: you mentioned in your first article. Because you had just 87 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:20,239 Speaker 4: said one of your sources saw the video, there were. 88 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 3: I don't want to I know, I don't want to 89 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 3: get into the numbers because I don't want jeopardize people. 90 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 3: But there are multiple people who witness this, in addition 91 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 3: to Deputy chiefs of Staff Greg Poles, who I was 92 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 3: told is the one who showing the video on April tenth, 93 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 3: and a lawyer on contract for lieutenank Governor's office Devin Norrik, 94 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 3: who was also showing the video of a representative Haggard's wife, 95 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 3: apparently topless. 96 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: Tom Labianco is our guest. He's a freelance journalist. He 97 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: has been reporting on these allegations of deep deep fake 98 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: pornography being shared in the Lieutenant Governor's office. You're a 99 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: national guy. How does a story like the even end 100 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: up on your radar? You cover the President, you cover 101 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: Washington d C. I think some people are asking who 102 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: is lobbyon because people long timers will know you from 103 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,679 Speaker 1: the Indie Star, but you don't work for the Star anymore, 104 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,239 Speaker 1: So like, how does this even get on your radar. 105 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean, you know, look, I mean I've 106 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 3: covered I was the AP Statehouse reporter for a while 107 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 3: back twenty eleven to twenty fifteen, then went to the Star, 108 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 3: and you know, I remember when I was covering you know, 109 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 3: Pence back then, when that moved out here to DC 110 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 3: to cover the twenty sixteen race for CNN. I remember 111 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 3: talking with my then fiance back then and I looked 112 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 3: at her. I was like, well, that's incredible. I'll never 113 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 3: have to write about Mike Pence ever again, because you know, 114 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 3: he's not exactly he is not Donald Trump. He is 115 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 3: not exactly compelling as the storyline goes, right, it's not exciting, right, 116 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 3: So you know, I keep my fingers in Indiana, right, 117 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 3: you stay up with my folks, you know, and I'll 118 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 3: tell you that. You know, out here in d C. 119 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 3: People do talk about him. Actually, he you know, he 120 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 3: managed to kind of pierce the veil of the Beltway, 121 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 3: which is a hard thing to do these days with 122 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 3: all the news coming out of the White House with 123 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 3: his three fifths compromise. 124 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: State you're talking about Mike, You're talking about Michael Beck 125 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: with the lieutenant governor. 126 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's he's starting to generate national interest. And I 127 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 3: can tell you that I haven't reported this yet, but 128 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 3: it'll probably be in the future story. Uh. You know, 129 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 3: the White House has actually asked about him to one 130 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 3: of my Indianapolis sources, testing him out seeing you know, 131 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 3: if this guy's something, you know based somebody they should 132 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 3: be paying attention to. So he is starting to get 133 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 3: some national attention. And you know, I keep up with 134 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 3: my Indiana folks, and this is a big I mean, 135 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 3: I'll tell you that that, you know, the deep Fake 136 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 3: porn story is it's a big national story right now. 137 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 3: And you know we report about this in the Today's 138 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 3: story that you know, Alexandra Acsio Cortes said she was 139 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 3: shocked finding out she'd been the victim of one of 140 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 3: these I was last year. First Lady Milania Trump testified 141 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 3: earlier this year on the on the national legislation making 142 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 3: it punishable about two years in prison. So it's a 143 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 3: really big story and across as many many different sectors. 144 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 4: Tom Lavillanco's joining us, and my question for you, Tom. 145 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 4: Your article states that the Marion County Prosecutor's office has 146 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 4: begun interviewing people regarding the deep Fake video and unless 147 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 4: there's evidence of this video somewhere on someone's state phone 148 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 4: or computer. Uh again, I go back to what is 149 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 4: the end of this Unless someone can produce the video, 150 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 4: it's just he said, She said, conversation. 151 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 3: Could be you know, I don't know, as you know, 152 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 3: as much as I cover politics and the overlap of 153 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 3: the courtroom and politics, which you know seems to be 154 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 3: increasingly a thing nationally in all different levels, I'm not 155 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 3: entirely sure what the the evidence evidentiary standards are for 156 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 3: something like this, you know, I mean, clearly obviously if 157 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 3: you have the video and if you're able to procure digitally. Right, So, 158 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 3: you know, I heard I listened to the town hall 159 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 3: that Michael Beckwith had last night, and he referred to 160 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 3: he said that he conducted his own audit and his 161 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 3: own internal investigation and found nothing. Well, there can be 162 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 3: you know, forensic you know, actual digital forensic investigations done, 163 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 3: depending if it proceeds to that point. And I don't 164 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 3: know that that's something that would even happen at this point. 165 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 3: Right just started yesterday, according to my reporting. I mean, 166 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 3: you know, the office, the prosecutor's office just started talking 167 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 3: with people yesterday about this. So you know, but it 168 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 3: does seem pretty clear that you know, if they if 169 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 3: it's you actually have the video versus it's eyewitnesses telling 170 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 3: you about the video. You know, that's obviously that would 171 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 3: be a much stronger case. But you know, remains to 172 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 3: be seen, right, I don't I don't know what the 173 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 3: what the evidentiary standards are for, you know, in criminal procedure. 174 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 1: Hey, Tom, before I let you go, I want to 175 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: come back to Representative Craig haggercause this is big that 176 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: he go public and we talked about yesterday on the show. 177 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: I talked to him yesterday. He relayed what I think 178 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 1: are many of the same sentiments to me privately before 179 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: he was comfortable going public that he put in the 180 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: quote that you revealed in this article. Do you know 181 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: what because he he is he went after a whole 182 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: bunch of people in what he told you is my understanding, 183 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: And do you know what he saw or what he's 184 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: heard or what Because you said earlier, he definitely thinks 185 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: this thing happened. That doesn't mean it did, but he's 186 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 1: under the impression what led him to that. 187 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,599 Speaker 3: Well, you know, as we as we note here, so 188 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 3: you know, in the second part of the statement that 189 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 3: he has here, let me I'll read it. See here 190 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 3: he talks about confronting a Senate President Rod Bray at 191 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 3: a It was at a parade on Sunday, and the 192 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 3: reason why is because he had found out that this 193 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 3: was reported to the Senate, the Cenate Republicans that this happened. 194 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 3: And okay, why would you report something to the Senate 195 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 3: Republicans Because technically the Lieutenant governor of the state is 196 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 3: the technical presiding officer, and of course, as we know, 197 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 3: Michael beck With frequently would preside over sessions. So this 198 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 3: does fall within their jurisdiction. So here's what we have 199 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 3: to had to say, and actually I should a note two. 200 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 3: I reached out to Governor Mike Brown's office and what 201 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 3: they told me was, quote, the Governor's office does not 202 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 3: have any authority over the Lieutenant governors human resources matter, 203 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 3: nor over those of any elected official. So here's the 204 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 3: second part of Representative Haggard's statement. He says, quote, when 205 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 3: given the opportunity to stand up for justice and the 206 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 3: dignity of women, State Senate President pro Tem Rod Bray said, 207 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 3: I don't care. The Governor's office through a press staffer 208 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 3: said the Governor's office does not have authority over Lieutenant 209 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 3: Governor's human resources matter. Their lack of empathy is a 210 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 3: disgusting display of disrespect for every female public servant who 211 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 3: works in the Brawn administration. 212 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: Okay, Tom, obviously this is like a daily thing. Now. 213 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: If people want to read your updates on this, I 214 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: assume you'll have a lot more coming out. How can 215 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: they go about doing that? 216 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, head on over to twenty four site dot news. 217 00:12:55,240 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 3: That's the number, twenty four to two four sight News. 218 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 3: I've got the latest story up there. I am deep 219 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,319 Speaker 3: in the reporting on this. This thing is rapidly developing, 220 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 3: and I will be updating as soon as I find 221 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 3: out reportable. 222 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: Don't. 223 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 3: We don't do rumors, any of that junk. All right, 224 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 3: it's got to get the hard stuff, all right. So 225 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 3: as soon as I get something hard, nail it down. 226 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 3: There'll be another one. 227 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: All right, Tom Abianco, we'll talk to you soon. 228 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 3: Thank you, excellent, Thank you, guys. 229 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 4: You're listening to Kettle and Casey. It's ninety three WIBC. 230 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: I'll bring off Kasey. What's that My mom wants to 231 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: go to the Rod Stewart concert again. 232 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 2: So your mom texted you. Hans said, no, I want 233 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 2: to go see Rod Stewart. 234 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: I had it all perfect. 235 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 4: You asked her, and then she said, nah, it's okay, 236 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 4: And now she's back on. 237 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, she will to go. I had checked all the boxes, 238 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 1: the act of kindness, the offer, I had no obligation. 239 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: Now here we go, Casey, what a partner you. 240 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 4: Are Rod Stewart in concert. It'll be a great evening 241 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 4: for you in your mind. 242 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: All right, Okay, so, uh, she's very sweet. 243 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 2: By the way, Rob's parents are so nice. 244 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: Anybody who's ever my father says, you are just so 245 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: full of it. 246 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 2: Lady, Now what, No, he's always lovely to me. 247 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: My father made a living being mean to people. 248 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 2: Well, he's never been mean to me. That's because he 249 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 2: likes you as he should. 250 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: He's like him. My parents are like my kid. They're 251 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: wonderful around everybody but me. Everybody's wonderful to everybody else 252 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: except when they're around me. 253 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 2: Well, he's on his best behavior every time I see. 254 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: We have several pieces of news that we need to 255 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: get to. First of all, Casey, what's my least favorite 256 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: part of every show? 257 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 4: Oh? When you have to come on these very powerful 258 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 4: say that you're correct. 259 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: So I remember when we started the program today, we 260 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: were talking about this just this redistricting stuff, like with Texas, California. 261 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: It's getting totally out of control. And I said that 262 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: there was indeed a scuttle butt that somebody very big 263 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: was going to be coming to the greater Central Indiana 264 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: area to meet with the movers and shakers, the governor, 265 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: et cetera, about pressuring because those phone calls had already 266 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: begun for Indiana to get involved in the game. And 267 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: now punch Bowl News is reporting that. Now that sounds 268 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: kind of wacky, but they're a pretty legitimate news site 269 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: for what it's worth. President Vice President JD. Vance is 270 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: considering a trip to Indiana Indianapolis on Thursday, oh where 271 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: he's expected to talk to Republican Governor Mike Brown and 272 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: the GOP legislative leaders about redrawing the state's congressional map. 273 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: According to multiple sources familiar with the plans, Boy, howdy, case, 274 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: do I have people or do I got the people? 275 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, welcome back to the Midwest. Vice President, Yeah, how 276 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 2: about that? 277 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: Okay, so we checked that box. 278 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 4: Then. 279 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: Now apparently Rod Bray, the pro tim of the Senate 280 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: has spoken out on these allegations about AI pornography being 281 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: shared in the lieuten at Governor's office. This is a 282 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: breaking set of commentary. He spoke to Tom Labianco here 283 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: just moments ago. 284 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 4: And. 285 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: Representative Haggard had basically said that he tried to have 286 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: a conversation with Bray and got blown off. Who his 287 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: wife is the one allegedly at the center of this 288 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: deep fake pornography And apparently Bray has now made a 289 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: comment I will just read you what Labianco sent us 290 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: in regards to that. Bray said Tuesday that he only 291 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: learned of the deep fake video Sunday afternoon and did 292 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: not say he quote didn't care when he spoke with 293 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: Haggard quote, I get why he's angry, but I just 294 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: said I didn't know anything about it. Deep fakes quote 295 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: are horrible. They're criminal for a reason. So I hate 296 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: that for him and his wife and his family. That's 297 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: atrocious for him to have to go through this. Bray 298 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: said he had not been contacted by the Marin County 299 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: Prosecutor's office. Bray added, quote, I don't know anything about 300 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: the allegation. That's a different office. From ours. So again, 301 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: nobody's out there like Bray is not like that absolutely 302 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: didn't happen and you're full of it. 303 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 4: But then he hasn't been contacted by the prosecutor's office. 304 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 4: So again, I just I go back to the same 305 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 4: questions that I had before we talked to Tom Labianco, 306 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 4: and those were do does Labianco have a motivation for 307 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 4: writing this article other than clicks and views? Uh? 308 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 2: Huh? 309 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 4: Who are his sources and when will he be revealing them? 310 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 4: When are these anonymous sources going on the record. 311 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 2: What is the proof? 312 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 4: Will there be forensic evidence or will someone take an oath? 313 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean that. Look, there's a lot of player. 314 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: Here's the thing. He's named the guys. If they didn't 315 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: do it, they should sue him for everything he's worth. 316 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: If they didn't do it, he's named them. That's the 317 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 1: thing that gets me. He put their names out there. 318 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 1: He's not like high ranking officials in the Lieutenant governor's office. 319 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 1: He put their names out there. If these guys didn't 320 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: do this and sue him for everything he's worth, he 321 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: would have no leg to stand on. He would have 322 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 1: no leg to stand on. And I'm not saying they 323 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 1: have to do it. They're free to live their lives 324 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 1: and do whatever they want to do. There's just so 325 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: many moving parts to this right now, and it appears 326 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,719 Speaker 1: law enforcement, at least allegedly is getting involved in it. 327 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: They'll obviously have freedoms and abilities if they decide to 328 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: pursue it that a journalist doesn't have. Look, it's no 329 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: different than us with the Diego India trip. We can't 330 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: make Diego show us his bank account that proves he 331 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,959 Speaker 1: paid the money back, as he alleges. We can't. We 332 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: don't have subpoena power to find out who paid for 333 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: the trip initially. We don't have that ability where the 334 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: media we can dig, we can we can go, and 335 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: we've said a while ago we've taken it as far 336 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: as we can. We tried to let that go, and 337 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: Diego won't let it go. But the point is, if 338 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: law enforcement gets involved, to whatever extent they choose to engage, 339 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: then they will have certain liberties and freedoms that the 340 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 1: that the media doesn't. And look, we don't know all 341 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: the Lobbianco's got. Nobody does. I'm sure there's he's probably 342 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: you know, currently still working book clearly is he just 343 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: talked to Rod Bray. So I think there's a long 344 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: way to go in this, and if it turns out 345 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 1: not to be true and that he made it up 346 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: and these guys can prove that they should take him 347 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: for everything he's worth, you know, I mean, but there's 348 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: like a long way to go with all this. I'd 349 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,479 Speaker 1: also be curious to know Mica claims he's conducted some 350 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: sort of investigation. What was that? Did he just look 351 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:54,199 Speaker 1: at the guys and go, did you do it? 352 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 4: No? 353 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: Okay? Investigate? I mean, like what what you know? What was? 354 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: And what's motivation for this? Like what what possible remotivation 355 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: from him on all sides? Like what Lobbianco's sitting around 356 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: in his underwear eating Cheetos and goes, I know, I'll 357 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: make up the story. That'll be fun. What would be 358 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: the motivation of somebody in the office. That's such a 359 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: weird thing to make up, right, But like, how would 360 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 1: you even fathom that? I didn't even understand what it 361 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: was like it was the average person sitting around going, 362 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: I know, I'll concoct this story about whatever. Haggard seemed representative. 363 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: Haggard seemed to speak pretty definitively. What has he seen? 364 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: What does he know? So there's a long way to 365 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: go in all of this. Who knows where the truth 366 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: actually lies. 367 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 4: If there's anybody in that state House who does know 368 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 4: the truth, I invite you to step forward. Well, we 369 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 4: would welcome you right here on the Kendall in case shoit. 370 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: Absolutely, And I've reached out to Representative Haggard. I offered 371 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: for him to come on the show. Obviously we know him. 372 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 1: He was spoke at the property tax rally. I talked 373 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: to him the other day. Hopefully he'll want to speak. 374 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: You know, he has spoken on the record in the 375 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 1: sense of he spoke with Lobyonco, but speak here locally. 376 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: So there's just there's such a long way to go 377 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 1: with this story. And for the people who are like, well, 378 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: this is crap journalism. You you being us, shouldn't cover it? Okay, 379 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: what's the standard? This is a known guy. He's covered 380 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 1: national politicians for years, He's written books, He's been on 381 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: Fox News, MSNBC, more for the Associated Press, work for 382 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 1: the Indie Star. This is not some guy not putting 383 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 1: their girl, not putting their name to it. When does 384 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: it become a story This is my question to these 385 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 1: people who are like you're you're doing a horror even covering. Okay, 386 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: then what's the standard when should we cover or not 387 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: cover something? We have said from the beginning, we don't 388 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 1: know what the truth is. What we have is two 389 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 1: very conflicting stories, two very conflicting accounts, and one of 390 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:54,479 Speaker 1: them is going to be right and one of them 391 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 1: is going to be wrong because they can't both be right. 392 00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:00,160 Speaker 1: You know who is never conflicting our news department here 393 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: at Lewis and the News. 394 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's up next on ninety three. 395 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 4: Wibcon Musk is learning the hard way, I mean, in 396 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 4: a really expensive way. 397 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 1: You shouldn't support any of these people, any of the groups, 398 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: any of the candidates. Yeah, these people, you can trust 399 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: them as far as you can throw them. 400 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 4: But isn't this interesting because Building America's Future, which is 401 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 4: a political nonprofit partially funded by Elon Musk, is now 402 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 4: spending over a million dollars on an ad campaign and 403 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 4: it supports the One Big Beautiful Bill Act signed by 404 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 4: Donald Trump. 405 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 1: So Elon Musk gave to this, this group, Building America's Future. 406 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: Now does it say when the last I don't think 407 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 1: Gordon's article. I don't think he's given recently, but I 408 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 1: think he gave them a bunch of money because they 409 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: were aligned with Trump, right, and now they are using 410 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: that money that he gave them to promote TV ad, 411 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: internet ad, et cetera, the passage of the Big Bullcrap Bill, 412 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 1: which Elon Musk hates. So you want to talk about 413 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: a double stinger. I not only did you give all 414 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: these guys all this money and then they didn't follow through? 415 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 1: Now some group you gave money to his running ads, 416 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: right right? 417 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? So Elon Musky opposed it. 418 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 4: He called it a discussing abomination and also a disaster. 419 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 4: Him and Donald Trump had a very public clash on 420 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 4: social media. And now we're going to use his money though, 421 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 4: to promote the one Big Beautiful Bill. 422 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 2: It's a thirty second ad. It's titled Independence. 423 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's going to air nationally on Fox News 424 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 4: starting Monday. So the ad is going to praise the 425 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 4: bill for eliminating taxes on tips and overtime, which you know, 426 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 4: you hear all these stories about Vegas dying. 427 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 2: Isn't that where the tax on tips originated. 428 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 1: Was a legalized vote buying scheme for the state of Nevada. 429 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: That's exactly what that was about. 430 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 4: Sure, the AD is also going to praise doubling the 431 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 4: child tax credit, cutting taxes for seniors, and helping working 432 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 4: families keep more of what they earn. 433 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 1: How about the deficit? Anything about or the national debt? 434 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: Anything in there about what it's going to do to 435 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 1: the national debt, anything in there about inflation? Any No, 436 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 1: no mentions there. Huh, Well that's weird. See I'm glad 437 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 1: you brought this story to my attention because sometimes I 438 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 1: get a little sometimes the case I get, I get well, no, 439 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: I get a little downhearted about about how the gov 440 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: and Lieutenant go. Well, they basically lied to the public 441 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: and stabbed everybody in the back and didn't do anything 442 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: they promised. And now they're just out, you know, doing 443 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: photo ops, going to candy stores and pizza kings and 444 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: you know, state fairs and blah blah blah. And we 445 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: got to sit here and deal with then their non 446 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: compliance and the things that they espoused they wanted to do. 447 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: And you know, hope people got mad at me for 448 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: a while about that. And hey, you know, I took 449 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: a flyer because here's the thing. People are always like. 450 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 1: I had this conversation with somebody yesterday, two days ago. Now, 451 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: in fact, I think and they said, you know, people 452 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 1: are always like Rob never wants to say who he supports. 453 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: Rob never stands up for anyone. Rob just says everyone's met. 454 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 2: Well, the one. 455 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 1: Time I did it, look at how bad that went. 456 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 2: For day turned out. 457 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 1: And you know, for a few days some people were 458 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 1: kind of upset about all the things that happened in 459 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: the legislative session. And then you know, I said, I'm sorry, 460 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 1: I tried. I'll never try again, and somebody else can 461 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 1: be in charge of deciding who to vote for going forward, 462 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: and I'll spend the next three and a half years 463 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 1: on these airwaves getting my revenge. At least I didn't 464 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 1: lose any money in the process. 465 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. 466 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 4: I'm like Elon Musk, right, So Musk, you remember he 467 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 4: vowed to fund any challengers against Republicans who back the bill. 468 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 4: He also launched that new political group, the America Party. 469 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 2: How's that going? 470 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: I know anything about that? I have no idea. I 471 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know. This is my point. And 472 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: so it goes back to the drive in that I 473 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 1: had the other day and it's interesting. My wife and 474 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: I were having this conversation the other day and we 475 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 1: were talking about learning lessons in life, and for me, 476 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: the past year has just been another lesson. But my 477 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: whole life, I feel, has been like a variety of lessons. 478 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: Like I've owned businesses that did very well. I've made 479 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 1: investments in businesses. If you're thinking about buying a radio station, 480 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 1: don't don't do it that have not done so well, 481 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,199 Speaker 1: and were talking about you know it said for me, 482 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: I've been able to process things now at forty years old, 483 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: where it's sometimes while the thing itself is harmful to 484 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 1: you in some capacity, what you learn from it and 485 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 1: what you take from it, Like owning that radio station. 486 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: I learned so many things in that radio station that 487 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: helped me get move and benefited me throughout the rest 488 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,199 Speaker 1: of my life that I've ended up being priceless. So 489 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 1: you can't look at it, well, I lost X amount 490 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: of money on whatever, because then you got to look 491 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: at all the businesses you made money on. And so 492 00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 1: in terms of politics and Mike and Braun not following 493 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: through or doing the things they promised, or making the 494 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: state better or being just complete whims and clearly just 495 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: wanting to be politicians and not care about the people. Yeah, 496 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 1: that stings, But if the lesson out of that is 497 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: don't believe anybody's bull crap anymore. No matter how much 498 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,239 Speaker 1: you think you can trust somebody, or how much you 499 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: think that they're going to follow through on something, or 500 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 1: how much you want to believe, you just can't do it. 501 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,239 Speaker 1: And look at Elon Musk. This makes me feel so 502 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: much better about myself, Casey, because I lost zero dollars, 503 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 1: just my dignity and my gas. That's all I lost. 504 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 4: This lesson costs a lot more money. Well, what's the 505 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 4: saying Thomas Edison learned one hundred ways not to make 506 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 4: a life at Yeah, and. 507 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 1: Then that's in this business in our field. You got 508 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: to just it's water off of It's water off a 509 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: duck's back. And my wife is like, how do you 510 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: do that? And I said, because I've been through it 511 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: so much and I've had so many good experiences and 512 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: so many bad experiences. You process it, you go with it. 513 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: If you don't learn anything from it, if you don't 514 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: do anything different going forward, then yeah, it's a sunk 515 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: cost or a lost cause it's bad. But it's a 516 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: some cost at this point. And for Elon Musk, I 517 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: hope he's learned. I hope, I hope for Elon Musk 518 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: it is just a multi billion dollar revenge tour that 519 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 1: he goes on. 520 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 4: Okay, Well, speaking of making money, don't don't cry for him. 521 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 2: He's wiping his tears with one hundred dollars bills. 522 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 4: He's Tesla is now giving Elon Musk ninety six million shares, 523 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 4: which is worth about twenty nine billion dollars. Oh wow, Yeah, 524 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 4: this is an interim payment payment. 525 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 2: It's a good faith move. 526 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,199 Speaker 4: Oh it was supposed to be originally fifty six billion 527 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 4: pay package. 528 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 2: From twenty eighteen. 529 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 4: Uh huh, but Delaware judge, yeah, remember that got as 530 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 4: that was unfairly negotiated, so and struck it down. So 531 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 4: now they've got this new deal and Tesla is going 532 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 4: to be giving him twenty nine billion dollars. 533 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 2: They're like, please, Elon, don't leave. 534 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: Okay, So there's a whole lot of money. Just remember 535 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: in life, this is to the audience, not to you, 536 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: because I know you know this, but every experience, if 537 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: you can take something with it, something that will help 538 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: you later in life, there is value in that thing. 539 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: And sometimes you really do struggle on things that are hard, 540 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: or people who let you down, or things that you're 541 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: like I invested in, whether it's a person or thing 542 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: and it doesn't work out. But I think you can 543 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: almost always find something that you've learned from it, and 544 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: that little nugget or that little thing, or sometimes a 545 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: big nugget or a big thing may end up saving 546 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: you so much down the road that you'll look back 547 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: and go, Okay, that's why. That's why, you know, the 548 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: Lord put me through that. That's so just remember in life, 549 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: even bad experiences, you can find in most cases things 550 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: that will help you down the road. 551 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 4: Well, the lesson I think that Elon Musk learned is 552 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 4: that he needs to focus because Tesla had a sixteen 553 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 4: percent drop in earnings, and he warned that they're going 554 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 4: to have some rough quarters ahead. All right, Hammer's next, 555 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 4: It's kindly Casey on ninety three WIBC. 556 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: Well this should be fun, Jason Hammers here, what do 557 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: you have for us today? 558 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 5: So yesterday we were talking about WKRP one. It's only 559 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 5: odd that that show had only made four years of 560 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 5: you know, episodes, felt like it was on for longer, 561 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 5: but had a great four year run. And this was 562 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 5: because Lonnie Anderson had passed away. You guys talked about it. 563 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 5: We talked about it. Guy Ralford and I got into 564 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 5: a debate on our show yesterday, and I want to 565 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 5: bring you guys in here. The one two combo of 566 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 5: WKRP coming to the table of hotness with Lonnie Anderson's 567 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 5: character Jennifer and Bailey Quarters. That's a pretty strong one 568 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 5: to two of hotness right there. I think if you 569 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 5: did a survey and said which one is hotter, you're 570 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 5: gonna get close to fifty to fifty. 571 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was Jans Smithers. Wouldn't that hurt Jan Smith? 572 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 3: Yes? 573 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. A lot of people thought on the quiet that 574 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: Bailey Quarters was the better of the time. 575 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 4: I always identified with her more. She just seemed more 576 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 4: like the girl next door, thees. 577 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: The I think that's it. I think that's why so 578 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: many dudes would have looked at her, you know, young 579 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: guys or whatever, and been like, I like her better. 580 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 4: She was always kind of like the Pam Dauber from 581 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 4: Morkan Mindy, Oh yeah, type of girl, just you know, 582 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 4: girl next door. 583 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: Well, and that goes to Ladle against Island too, right. 584 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 5: I think if you did a poll, half would say Ginger, 585 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 5: half would say mary Anne. 586 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: I was gonna team mary Anne a little bit. 587 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 5: So those two shows, WKRP Gilligan's Island. That's a pretty 588 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 5: strong one two combo of hot hicks, right. Is there 589 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 5: any other show? And Casey, let me know if there's 590 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 5: like a dude version. I don't know if there is 591 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 5: or not, But is there any other show that could 592 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 5: come to the table with two folks that hot that 593 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 5: would divide the public? 594 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 1: Okay, So the first thing that comes to mind is Friends, 595 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: because everybody thinks Jennifer Aniston is the most beautiful person ever. 596 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: And then Courtney Cox, I guess would be the two, 597 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: although obviously Lisa Kudrou is in there as well. Although 598 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: you were telling me that there's a bunch of people 599 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 1: that in your one of them, you don't think Courtney 600 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: Cox is all that great. 601 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 5: I never was a Courtney Cox fan. I wasn't and 602 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 5: I think if you did the family Feud style survey, 603 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 5: it would be overwhelmingly Jennifer Aniston's water and then picked 604 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 5: the second place. Well, we're looking for some ballants, you're 605 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 5: so that's the thing you're looking for two where they're 606 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 5: they're equal. It's not the collective score. Correct. Two smoke 607 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 5: shows that have divided the public. 608 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 2: So a couple of things. 609 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 4: I think Rob probably likes Courtney Cox because she was 610 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 4: in that Bruce Springsteen video all those years ago I made. 611 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 2: Where would you rank Laverne and Shirley on the honest. 612 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 5: Below Friends? Maybe below Bosom Buddies when the guys dressed 613 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 5: up as women greater than Verne and Shirley. 614 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: Oh those Shirley had her moments. Is there a guy version? Casey? 615 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 4: Well, you mentioned Friends, and that's the one that comes 616 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 4: to mind with Joey Tribiani and Chandler Big. 617 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: What about Miami Vice? Oh well, well the other guy 618 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: I mean Don Jonnson Michael to us? Thank you? I 619 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: forgot his name. I'm sorry again. 620 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 5: Going by the survey metric here, everybody would say Don 621 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 5: Johnson overwhelming? 622 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 4: What about uh from Mash Hawkeye? 623 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 2: And who's the other guy? Trapper John? 624 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: We're chicks thirsty over those dudes. 625 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 2: They were. They were pretty busy there at the four. 626 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 5: Okay, the A team like anybody, like mister t or 627 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 5: Dirt Benedict, like any other show, whether it's with dudes, 628 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 5: whether it's with chicks, YouTube chat, Twitter, let us know. 629 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 5: Can any other show come to the table, like a 630 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 5: regular show, not some porn show or something with two 631 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 5: smoke shows that can divide the public like that? 632 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 2: Does it have to be television? Does radio count? 633 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 5: It's got to be television. Are you going back to 634 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 5: the forties, Casey, what are you doing here? 635 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 4: No? 636 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 2: Ibviously gonna hammer and Nigell check. 637 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, YouTube feed here? Yeah, boy, that's a That is 638 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: a great That is a great, great question. 639 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,479 Speaker 5: Because those shows are both older, right, and you would 640 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 5: think in this day and age of plastic surgery and 641 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 5: all the bleach blonde to fake cans, there would have 642 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:20,359 Speaker 5: been a show melrose Place or something equally divided nine 643 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,720 Speaker 5: O two and Ozer. Maybe there were some Brenda people, 644 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 5: There were some Kelly people, but I don't think they 645 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 5: have anything to offer against the lineup that w TWLLP 646 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 5: and Gillikins, I. 647 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: Who okay, totally no, I got one say by the bell. 648 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 5: Say by the bell? Yeah, okay, Kelly Kapowski. And then 649 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,240 Speaker 5: you had picket between Jesse Spano or Lisa Turtle. 650 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: And then on the guys side, some people were team 651 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,879 Speaker 1: a c slater, some were Teams ach Wars, some were 652 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,479 Speaker 1: Team Screech. It's weird. 653 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,800 Speaker 5: Do you bring this up? I posted about a random 654 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 5: Saved by the Bell character on my personal. 655 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: Facebook page today. Belding's brother, Rod, who was a very 656 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 1: very well assembled man, especially for the time with the 657 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: fop look right right, was gonna take the kids on 658 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 1: a whitewater rafting trip for their senior trip, which is 659 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: a dangerous idea. No school board whatever sign off on it, 660 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: and he ultimately ends up bailing on the kids to 661 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,879 Speaker 1: go hook up with a smoke show stewardess named Inga 662 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: and was never seen or heard from ever again. 663 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 2: No, that was disappearing. 664 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:20,879 Speaker 1: She was a ten Rod. 665 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 2: She was a ten. 666 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 5: Oh yes, the fabio looking up brother of Belding. He 667 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 5: just disappeared, was never went on the trip and was 668 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 5: heard from ever again. 669 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: They you know, they got stuck in the middle with 670 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 1: that character, and they're like, what do we do with them? 671 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 1: It's like Poochi the Dog on The Simpsons. 672 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 5: Poochie the Rocking Dog, one of the great episodes of 673 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 5: all time. 674 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: I have to go now. 675 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,359 Speaker 5: He's so in your face, Like politicians do that, right, 676 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 5: They shove somebody in your face and they tell you 677 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 5: how extreme they are and. 678 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: How fun and how cool you know who. 679 00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 5: It reminds me of like those nerds on the Ruthless podcast. 680 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 5: They just signed some deal with Fox. They got some 681 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 5: dork wearing sunglasses. It's Poach, Ether, Rock and Dog. He's 682 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 5: all in my face. 683 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: Speaking of in your face, what are you gonna be 684 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 1: in our face with? This afternoon? 685 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 5: Nige is back and Jeff Boggs will join us. It's 686 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 5: always fun when not Kenney Rogers calls in and we've 687 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 5: got Rod Stewart tickets to give away those Rod Stewart. Well, 688 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 5: if you're calling number nine and you win the game, 689 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,320 Speaker 5: Rod Stewart or Tony Stewart. 690 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 1: You'll have a chance. 691 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 4: Sounds good. Thanks Sammer. It is Kennelly Casey. It's ninety 692 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:33,959 Speaker 4: three WIBC.