1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: I said this on Twitter over the weekend. By the way, 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: it's Kenel and Casey Show. I'm Rob, that's Casey. This 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: redistricting thing is playing out in real time what we 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: have been telling you on this program. 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 2: I have been saying for nine years on. 6 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: This radio station about who these people, the elected people, 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: not just the elected people, but the people. 8 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 2: Who live in the political orbit. Who they are. 9 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: They are proving this in real time because all of 10 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: these people are disgusting. They don't care about you at all. 11 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: This isn't about bettering anybody's lives. It's about bettering themselves. 12 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,319 Speaker 1: And now this thing with Mike Bohatchick is playing out, 13 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 1: and I'm just sitting here going the prosecution rests. 14 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 2: You're honor where you been. 15 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 3: What you're saying is hello, We've been talking about this 16 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 3: since June. 17 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 4: Second. 18 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:50,279 Speaker 3: Yeah. 19 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: By the way, it's Kendell and Casey Show. I'm Rob. 20 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: That's Casey. So Mike Bohatchik is a Republican. By the way, 21 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: are they meeting? Is it started? This House supposed to 22 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: be starting today some sort of get together about redistricting. 23 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: They're very excited about altering the maps that no one 24 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: has seen. There's been no testimony given, there's been no 25 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: community statements, nothing. They're getting ready to meet at some 26 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: point today to begin that process. And they're related. Like 27 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: you see, these lawmakers, many of them are very very 28 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: excited about this now. They're not giving a damn about 29 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 1: your property taxes being out of control. They're not talking 30 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: about getting utility bills, any affordability on utility bills. They're 31 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: not talking about curbing one of the nation's highest gas taxes. 32 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: They're not talking about opening up the books and having 33 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: a robust debate and discussion about the Indian Economic Development 34 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: Corporation that the independent audit showed hundreds of millions of 35 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: dollars of conflicts of interest and I'll just say it 36 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: corruption that's been going on. They're not talking about any 37 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: of that. You're the Republican members of the Indiana House. 38 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: They're not doing a damn thing or posing doing a 39 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: damn thing about any of that. But people like Andrew Ireland, 40 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: State rep from Indianapolis are are just elated over the 41 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: fact that they can potentially rig the maps to put 42 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: two more Republicans in the House to not help you 43 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: at all. That's what these people are and that's what 44 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: this is all about. But over the weekend, Mike Bohatchik, 45 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: state senator from north would you say northwestern Indiana? I 46 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: guess he's a region guy, a Republican, announced that he 47 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: is going to vote against redistricting. And as soon as 48 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: he made that announcement, now he pinned it. Well, he 49 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: didn't pin it on. He did pin it on, and 50 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: then he got a bunch of crap for it, and 51 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: he goes, well, it's not the it's not the reason. 52 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: It's just like another reason I'm doing this. Trump's rambling incoherent, 53 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 1: ridiculous statement over the weekend, the Thanksgiving message. 54 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 4: The Thanksgiving post. Yeah, that was so long. 55 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 3: It started out in very happy Thanksgiving salutation to all 56 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 3: of our great American citizens and patriots who have been 57 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 3: so nice in allowing our country to be a divided, disruptive, 58 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 3: carved up, murdered, beating, mugged and laughed at. 59 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 4: And then he goes on and says a whole bunch 60 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 4: of other stuff and in. 61 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 2: The message, and look, I don't use this word. 62 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: I'm not some person who starts pointing at people when 63 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,679 Speaker 1: they do and says you're the worst of humanity. I 64 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: just choose not to use it. It doesn't make me 65 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: better than anybody. I will use it here for the 66 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: purpose of this discussion because it's important to what we're 67 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: talking about. Again, I'm not trying to be some holy 68 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: roller saying if somebody uses this word, they're a bad person. 69 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 2: Whatever. 70 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: But he called Tim Walls, the governor of Minnesota who 71 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: was the vice presidential nominee for Kamala Harris. 72 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 2: He called him retarded. 73 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. 74 00:03:53,080 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: And Mike Bohachik, state senator from northwestern Indiana, as a 75 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: I believe it's a daughter who has Down syndrome. 76 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 2: And he came out in a very forceful. 77 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: Statement and basically said, I'm voting against redistricting because I've 78 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: had enough of Trump's bs and I don't appreciate him 79 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: using that word. And if he wants to win that 80 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: seat the first Congressional District, which is the Chicago Land Region, 81 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: one of the areas they're looking at altering the maps 82 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: on to try to put a Republican in that seat, 83 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: he can win at the old fashioned way. 84 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 2: I'm not going to help him do it. 85 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, he said, many of you, this is Michael Bohachik. 86 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 3: He said, many of you have asked my position on redistricting. 87 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 3: I've been an apologetic advocate for people with intellectual disabilities 88 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 3: since the birth of my second daughter. Those of you 89 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 3: that don't know me or my family might not know 90 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 3: that my daughter has Down syndrome. This is not the 91 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 3: first time our president he's used these insulting and derogatory references, 92 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 3: and his choices of words have consequences. 93 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 4: I'll be voting no on redistricting. 94 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: And this is like, we're gonna need at least two 95 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: segments to do this because there's just so much going 96 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: on right now and it's about so much more than redistricting. 97 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: Like I was laughing last night when you said the 98 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: template is done, and I said, what does it just say? 99 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: Rob craps On? Everyone like? 100 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 2: Is that the like? 101 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: Because there's like, there's just there's so much going on 102 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: with this redistricting right now, and it's everything they have 103 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: been telling you on this radio station for nine years. 104 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 2: The Casey and I have been talking about. 105 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: For almost Can you believe we've almost worked together for 106 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: four years. You've made it longer than anyone. Casulations we 107 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:34,679 Speaker 1: had the over under on three months. 108 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you I blew past that, didn't I. 109 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: But but there's just so much with this that it 110 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: actually does impact you far greater than redistricting, because these people, 111 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: both the politicians and the people in the political world, 112 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: are exposing themselves. They're showing you who they are, and 113 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: it's everything we've been saying. 114 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 3: You know, when you say that people in the political world, 115 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 3: are you talking about the influencers online or the con. 116 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 2: Type, all of that, all of them. 117 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: So I mean like that, We're gonna spend a lot 118 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: of time on this today because of all the different 119 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 1: things that it touches. And it all comes back to 120 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: if you will open your eyes on this, why you 121 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: keep getting screwed on property taxes, on utility meals, on 122 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: gas taxes, why we're giving hundreds of millions of dollars 123 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: to a just horribly corrupt, rotten, conflict of interest ridden 124 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: organization like the IEDC. All of these things that you 125 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: tune into us for every day, it's playing out right 126 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: in front of you with this redistricting. And then hopefully 127 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: you can take these just blatantly obvious examples and take 128 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 1: them with you in the future so that you'll be 129 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: aware of what's going on, so you'll say, remember when 130 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 1: we say remember when you'll go, oh, yeah, that is 131 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: happening because you're getting screwed in all these other areas 132 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 1: because of the sort of stuff that's going on right now. 133 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: So we're gonna spend a couple segments on this because 134 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 1: there's just too much to get to in one segment. 135 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 1: But as soon as Mike Bohatchick makes the statement say 136 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: he's no on redistricting, then all of a sudden, the 137 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: influencer people who don't live in our state we're talking about, 138 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: Like that, is it Kurt Schlichter, guy from California or 139 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: the DC Dreno dude in Florida. I don't know if 140 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: DC Drana was involved in this, but I'm saying, like, 141 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: there's all these people who don't live in Indiana who 142 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: have made it their life's mission to get these two 143 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: Republicans seed, these two congressional seeds flip to Republican and 144 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: they have no idea about our state. They don't live 145 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: in our state, they don't spend time in our state 146 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: for the most part, Like but they're obsessed now with 147 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: these two congressional seeds and anybody who at all, for 148 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: whatever the reason might be. Some of them good, some 149 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: of them not so good. But whatever the reason is 150 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: they have, now they start making these people public enemy 151 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: number one and they try to seek and kill and 152 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: destroy them. And of course, Mike Bohachik, as anybody who 153 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: listen to this program for any length of time knows, 154 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: because we broke the story, we were screaming about it 155 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: six months ago, got an OWI in January of last 156 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: year in which he refused a breathalyzer, but his blood 157 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,679 Speaker 1: test revealed he was almost three and a half times 158 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: the legal limit. So all of a sudden, Mike Bohatchik, 159 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: who's had this thing out here forever, and by the way, 160 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: not only did he the big issues, not only did 161 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: he get the OWI, but they were able to day 162 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,959 Speaker 1: I'm saying they, the Republican Party, the senators, the leaders 163 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 1: in the government, were able to cover it up for 164 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: about four and a half months because Bohatchick, like other lawmakers, 165 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: can hide behind legislative immunity where if they get arrested 166 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 1: during the session, there's no record of it, they get 167 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: to go free. He had somebody come get him. What 168 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: was at point two eight was his blood draw three 169 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: and a half times the legal limit, and he was 170 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 1: able to walk out the door, go home, keep driving, 171 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: which for any normal person, if you refuse the breathalyzer, 172 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:15,359 Speaker 1: automatic license suspension. He was able to keep driving, no accountability, 173 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: and then he ends up with a sweetheart plea deal. 174 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 2: But he was able to. 175 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: Avoid the scrutiny, the mugshot, the public shaming, all of 176 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: this for basically four and a half five months. And 177 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: then once we got the story and broke the story, 178 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: nobody other than basically us, the Capitol Chronicle, Indie Star, 179 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: a couple other local news outlets, but it was basically 180 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: nobody wanted to. 181 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 2: Talk about it. 182 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, nobody cared. 183 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:38,959 Speaker 2: No Republicans. 184 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 1: We were screaming, somebody hold this guy accountable, somebody do 185 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: something about this. 186 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 2: This is rotten, this is horrible. This guy's able to 187 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 2: just waltz free. Uh huh. 188 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 3: Well that's because he was inside the tent right at 189 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 3: that point. He was still being protected. 190 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: And now what not because of what he did, but 191 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: because because he. 192 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 3: Said no something. Donald Trump won and so he said no, 193 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 3: I'm not doing that. 194 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 4: Now everybody's looking into that. OWI. 195 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's all these videos, all these people who aren't 196 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: from Indiana, even some people who are from Indiana. Some 197 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: of these political consultant peoples, one of the people that 198 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: I had a nice little back and forth with over 199 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: the weekend, which you may have seen, you know, posting 200 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: all this stuff. And I'm just going you didn't give 201 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: a damn about this when we were begging somebody to 202 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 1: do something about it. You didn't step up and help us. 203 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: You didn't talk about caring about how bad it was 204 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: that you have this senator with such horrible judgment making 205 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: decisions for the people of Indiana. You weren't calling for 206 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: his resignation then, but you'll do it now when there's 207 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: something you want to take place, right which should show 208 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: everybody how little these people actually care about you and 209 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 1: your life and bettering your existence. 210 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 2: This is all about them. 211 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: For the influencer people, it's about curring favor with Trump. 212 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 1: For the political people, We're going to talk about that 213 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: in a little bit, Casey, because everybody has something to 214 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: gain out of this, and what they have to gain 215 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: doesn't do anything for you. 216 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 2: See, I told you there's no. 217 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 1: Way we're gonna get to this in one segment because 218 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: there's so much to talk about. 219 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 4: All Right, We've got more coming up. It is Kendelly 220 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 4: Casey on ninety three, WIBC