1 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: Why from the Hartland and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:43,959 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today, So. 3 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 2: I'll ask again for the people in cheap seats, who 4 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 2: in the world are we negotiating with? This is the question. 5 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 2: It's not a rude question, it's not a wrong question, 6 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 2: and it's certainly not the ignorance of people like joy 7 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 2: Behar on the view who want to make the purely 8 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 2: ignorance and all together stupid accusation that the US military 9 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: hasn't accomplished anyone. 10 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 3: I don't want to take away from what our men 11 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 3: and women have been doing over there, because what they've 12 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 3: accomplished is incredible. And if we can deter ron at 13 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 3: all three years. 14 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 2: Over the excite our military. That's military. 15 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 3: I think they do it with they're told far and what. 16 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 4: Have they accomplished? 17 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 5: Why you think they? 18 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 3: I think anytime we can deter Iran, whether it's for 19 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 3: another year, whether it's for I think. 20 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: There's a win for this. Obama had a deal in place. 21 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 2: And if you say to me, Tony, it's the view, 22 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: why do you pay attention, It's because it's what liberal 23 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 2: white women pay attention to, which is why they're so terrible, 24 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 2: why they're so misinformed, why they're so broken as people. 25 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 2: And if you think that's offensive, dear Lord, keep listening. 26 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 2: It only gets worse from here. Tony Kats, Tony Katz today, guys, 27 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 2: an absolute pleasure to be with you. We've got the 28 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 2: White House briefing that will be coming up in the 29 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: next hour Stephen Yeates, we'll be breaking down what's going 30 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 2: on in Iran. 31 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 4: And possible next steps. 32 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 2: If you ask what the military has accomplished, we have 33 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 2: accomplished what the JCPOA, the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, 34 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 2: the Obama Deal did not actually stopping them, or at 35 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 2: least proving that they were working on nuclear weapons. They 36 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 2: were working on long range missiles. They fired long range missiles, 37 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 2: and now they can't. And that's better. That's clearly better. 38 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 2: My problem is not the Joy Behar program problem. The 39 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 2: Joy Behar problem is that she is such a hateful 40 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: shrew of a huge human being. And if you're upset 41 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 2: with the word shrew, let me say for the record, 42 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 2: I cleaned it up for radio. She can't honestly address 43 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 2: the situation. Her hatred of Trump blinds any possibility, which 44 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 2: is why her and people like her are unserious people. 45 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 2: It's why they cannot be listened to. It's why they 46 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 2: should be mocked, ridiculed, and ignored. They deserve every bit 47 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 2: of laughter in their face that they get. Joy Behar 48 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 2: is definitively a dumb woman, and the view has no 49 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 2: interest in proactively sharing a story that matters. We know this. 50 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 2: And as for the woman who is cheering on the military, 51 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: cheering on the military is differently being asked the question 52 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 2: what did they do? They did what it is that 53 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 2: Barack Obama refused to do? Barack Obama gave them runway 54 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 2: to a nuclear weapon. We stopped that. It's better. You 55 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 2: know what we haven't done. We haven't ended the regime. 56 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 2: And when I hear that we have a deal with Iran, 57 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm supposed to do with that information. 58 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 4: What possible deal do. 59 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 2: We have with whom? The guy that they're talking about 60 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 2: is Mohammed Baga gallibaf g A l I b a F. 61 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 2: This was the spokesperson, I should say, the speaker for 62 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 2: the Iranian parliament. Now one could argue what kind of 63 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 2: power the Iranian parliament has, but one can clearly say 64 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 2: this is not the Iyatola, This is not the supreme 65 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 2: leader who decides everything. 66 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 4: And if you say to me, if. 67 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 2: Will we have a supreme leader, it's the son, it's Mojmatah. 68 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 2: Where the hell is that guy? Where the hell is. 69 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 4: That cardboard cut out of a human being? He's nowhere. 70 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 2: Right now, we're dealing with Iato autopen and allegedly this dude, 71 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 2: a guy who served in the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, 72 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 2: was a commander, was the mayor of Tehran. He denies 73 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 2: there any talks going on whatsoever. As a matter of fact, 74 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 2: not only are there not any talks going on, President 75 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 2: Trump is saying that Iran has fired one hundred and 76 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 2: one missiles at the USS Abraham Lincoln, some of them 77 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 2: maybe as of today. 78 00:05:58,560 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 4: This is an aircraft carrier. 79 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 2: We also have the Gerald Gerald Ford is making its 80 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 2: way to crete. If not, they're already because of a 81 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 2: fire that was on board. It's an aircraft carrier. Things 82 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 2: do go wrong, You repair, you move on, hopefully repair quickly. 83 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 2: The Iranians being people who I should say, the Iranian 84 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 2: regime always talking tough. Never a moment where they're not 85 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 2: talking tough. Twenty four to seven, tough guy. Oh there's 86 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 2: no deal, Oh, we're not we're not interested. And then 87 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:36,799 Speaker 2: you get the Wall Street Journal with a world class 88 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 2: headline of how the Iranians are playing hardball as mediators 89 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 2: push for talks with the US. You're gonna have Steve 90 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 2: Wickoff and some Iranians allegedly meeting on Thursday. Yes, the 91 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 2: Iranians like to make this claim of being tough and 92 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 2: therefore it's hardball. They'd play a lot less hardball if 93 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 2: they were dead. And this is where our conversation has 94 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 2: to be. Our conversation has to be what is victory? 95 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 2: The ignorance of the conversation on the view is what 96 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 2: has the military done. They are proactive to disparaging the 97 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 2: military because they're not actually disparaging the military, even though 98 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 2: they are. What they're doing is disparaging Trump. And when 99 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 2: you disparage Trump, anything that gets in the wake of 100 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 2: disparaging Trump is deemed acceptable. 101 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 4: This is who they are gold in my ear. 102 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 2: The former Prime Minister of Israel stated that we will 103 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 2: have peace with the Palestinians when they love their children 104 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 2: more than they hate us. 105 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 4: This is when the political. 106 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 2: Right will have peace with the political left, when they 107 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 2: love their country more than they hate Trump. And they 108 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 2: do not at this moment they hate Trump on the 109 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 2: political left more than they love their country. 110 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 4: This is not a debate that we're having. 111 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 2: They stated everywhere all the time, constantly and consistently. They're 112 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 2: not even shy about it. Ugly, ugly people. But we 113 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 2: do have to ask ourselves, how is it. 114 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 4: That we. 115 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 2: Where is the moment where we say, you know what, 116 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 2: this was actually worthwhile? By the way, I can feel 117 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 2: some of you judging me and asking the question of 118 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 2: what would make you say that the political left they 119 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 2: hate Trump more than they love their country. Okay, let's 120 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 2: let Senator Chris Van Holland, Democratic Maryland answer the question. 121 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 4: Henry, let me just put that to you. 122 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 2: Who do you think is telling you the truth? 123 00:08:58,160 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 4: Casey? 124 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 6: Unfortunately, we've learned that Donald Trump has been lying to 125 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 6: the American people from the start, and he keeps lying 126 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 6: to the American people, which is never a good thing. 127 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 3: You believe officials over the president of the United States. 128 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 6: I believe that based on all the information that's available 129 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 6: and Donald Trump's track record of line, including the big 130 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 6: lie which he told the American people during the campaign 131 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 6: that he was going to keep us out of war 132 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 6: in the Middle East. He broke that promise. He lied 133 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 6: about Iran being an imminent threat the United States and 134 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 6: Israel launched this strike. He lied about Iran being on 135 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 6: the precipice of getting a nuclear weapon. We know that 136 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 6: because Tulsa Gabbard just testified just the opposite recently. And yes, 137 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 6: we know he's lying when he says that the Iranians 138 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,839 Speaker 6: are talking with us and they're about to give Donald 139 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 6: Trump everything he wants. 140 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 4: Yet now. 141 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 2: That is full on trying to demoralize the American troops, 142 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 2: to moralize the American people, and giving aid. 143 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 4: And comfort to the enemy. 144 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 2: Anything the President is discussing about conversations with the Iranians 145 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 2: should be taken with a massive grain of salts because 146 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 2: it could all be deception. We are in a fight. 147 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 2: The problem here is not that Chris van Holland is stupid. 148 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 2: The problem here is that Chris van Holland hates you 149 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 2: more than he loves you. 150 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 4: He hates Trump more than he loves the country. 151 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 2: Is there any question now regarding enriched uranium at sixty 152 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 2: percent and US going in and getting it, which is 153 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 2: gonna involve boots on the ground, which is gonna be 154 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 2: a whole noother conversation. Is there any question that the Iranians 155 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 2: do have this capacity that could reach twenty five hundred 156 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 2: miles as they tried to hit the base at Diego 157 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 2: Garcia and could hit the whole of Europe. Is there 158 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 2: any question that the JCPOA was an unmitigated failure from 159 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 2: a fool named Barack Hussein Obama, from the fools who 160 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 2: are the Obama Bros, the Tommy Veters and the Ben 161 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 2: Rhodes who were always wrong on this subject. And is 162 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 2: there any question that Iran is the largest state sponsor 163 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 2: of terror, that they were engaged in supporting the Houthi 164 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 2: rebels in Yemen attacking US and other ships traveling the 165 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 2: Red Sea. 166 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 4: Is there any question. 167 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 2: That the Iranian regime was supporting terrorism in southern Lebanon 168 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 2: and Hasblah with Hamas where Americans were killed on October seventh, 169 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 2: taken hostage and killed. There's no question, There's no doubt, 170 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 2: not from the honest, but from the hateful, from the file, 171 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 2: from the vicious, from those unwilling to stop with their 172 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 2: hate of President Trump for thirty seconds and recognize their 173 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 2: country means more, they don't believe that, they don't believe 174 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 2: that these people are unworthy of your vote, or your 175 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 2: love or your time. 176 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 4: No harm should befall them. 177 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 2: They just can't be allowed power because Chris van Holland, 178 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 2: mister Margarita himself is a weak weak man, And if 179 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 2: you want to know who he lies to, he lies 180 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 2: to himself because he knows that anything Trump is saying 181 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 2: about possible deals could actually be true, could actually be 182 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 2: on misdirection, could be something said here while he's setting 183 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 2: up something over there. Yes, that is absolutely possible. I 184 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 2: concede that that is possible. But this is warfare, which 185 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 2: is the key differentiator. Isn't it Trump keeping us out 186 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 2: of wars? 187 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 4: Well? I was never somebody who voted for Trump on 188 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 4: that measure. 189 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 2: I live in the real world, where everything is possible, 190 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 2: and things change on a dime, and sometimes. 191 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 4: You have to deal with them. 192 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 2: I never ascribed to the very, very childlike policy of 193 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 2: no more forever wars. I don't even know what the 194 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 2: hell that means. 195 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,839 Speaker 4: No more forever wars should mean you go. 196 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 2: In, you kill everybody in a week, and you go home, 197 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 2: you have lunch. I would suggest pistrawmi. I mean, after 198 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 2: a long week, what would feel better huh. You think 199 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 2: I'm callous, you think I'm cold. No, I am discussing 200 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 2: a strategy and a philosophy that I'm not interested in wars. 201 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 2: I'm interested in ending any threat to the United States 202 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 2: with ferocity. 203 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 4: I'm very clear on this subject. 204 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 2: And for the people, I oh, sure, you're totally fine 205 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 2: going to war with other people's kids. It's always other 206 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 2: people's kids. And this is why people who say that 207 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 2: can't be in charge, because we need adults in the 208 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 2: room and they are still children, emotionally crippled, wrecked people. Yes, 209 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 2: I'm fully aware I'm sending somebody else's child into war, 210 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,599 Speaker 2: thank you very much. That's how it works. So we 211 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 2: shouldn't go for light and transient causes, and we shouldn't 212 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 2: go half asked. We should go full, we should go overwhelming, 213 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 2: we should go heavy, and no one remains alive from 214 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 2: their side. That's my tank, that's my philosophy. I think 215 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 2: it's a winner. So now we get back to where 216 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 2: we started this thing with the fool Joy Behar, who's 217 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 2: a dumb woman. Quote me, it's fine, what does the 218 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 2: matter what she says? Our question is not what has 219 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 2: the military done? Our question should be did we achieve 220 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 2: the objective? 221 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 4: Did we achieve the objective? And I say to. 222 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 2: You that if any part of the regime remains, then no, 223 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 2: we didn't. You cannot allow the regime to remain. You 224 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 2: can allow no part of the regime to remain. Anybody 225 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 2: connects to the IOTOL the must be destroyed. Anybody connected 226 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 2: to the IRGC must be destroyed. The IRGC, the Islamic 227 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 2: Revolutionary Guard Court must be broken in. 228 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 4: Two so these people can have their lives back. 229 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 2: Terrorism is not funded and we can stop thinking about 230 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 2: the fucking Middle East. That's an objective that was mine. 231 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 2: I accept that Trump's may be different, and I accept 232 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 2: that I may have to say to him, man, you 233 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 2: got that wrong. But I don't know if that's today. 234 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 2: I don't know if that's the way it's going to be. 235 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 2: I don't know if what's being telegraphed is actually true. 236 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 2: I saw a bed two bombers head to the west 237 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 2: while we went east and took out Isfahan, Natans and 238 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 2: four DAU. I don't know right now what's ahead fake 239 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 2: and what isn't. How this will end, I don't know. 240 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 2: I do know that the world without the terrorist regime 241 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 2: of Iran is a better world. I do know. 242 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 4: That's not Israel trying to keep America in this. 243 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 2: It's Saudi Arabia that begged Donald Trump to keep it up. Well, 244 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 2: of course, the Saudis want to get rid of the 245 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 2: Iranian threat and engage hegemonic power in the region. 246 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 4: Everyone's got their reasons. 247 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 2: Ours is to end the terrorist threat, end any possibility 248 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 2: of a nuclear threat, and then think about something else 249 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 2: that involves removing the regime. 250 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 4: That's what I want Trump to do. 251 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 2: If he doesn't, well, then I don't know what the 252 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 2: object if the objective he had solves anything. 253 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 4: I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Kats Today. 254 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 2: White House briefing is scheduled for today. I'm going to 255 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 2: bet money that that is going to have a little bit. 256 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 4: Of fireworks to it. 257 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 2: You've got the war and Department of Homeland Security is 258 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 2: still not funded. 259 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 4: The Democrats won't do it. 260 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 2: And I gotta tell you, first of all, Tony Katz, 261 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 2: Tony Kats today, how you doing? 262 00:16:57,840 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 4: How's your mother? 263 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 2: I gotta tell you that I. 264 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 4: I may have misread a tea leaf. 265 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 2: I expected when the Democrats started saying, well, we'll fund TSA, 266 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 2: but we're not going to fund DICE, and we'll get 267 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 2: these lines moving in. Why won't you find TSA and 268 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 2: why won't you do this? Do that? I thought that 269 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 2: Republicans were absolutely going to get walloped on that. I 270 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 2: thought they were going to get crashed on that. 271 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 4: Well it's been about a week and a half. 272 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 2: Nope. And I gotta tell you, I I could prognosticate, 273 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 2: and I can take a look at everything, and I 274 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 2: could utilize my sources. I can come up with Okay, 275 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 2: here's where I think things are going. But I made 276 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 2: mistakes before. I'm trying to figure out why this didn't happen. 277 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 2: How here you have Democrats refusing to fund the Department 278 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 2: of Homelands Curity, and they're not even They're not remotely 279 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 2: shy about it. 280 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 4: They're not funding DHS. 281 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 2: They don't care, and they keep moving the goalposts when 282 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 2: it comes to what they want regarding Ice in edity, 283 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 2: Ice can't do this, and ICE can't do that, Ice 284 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 2: can't do the other, and ICE can't do your mother, 285 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 2: and I well that was just rude. No Ice bad. 286 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 2: They really want Ice gone. They want people who are 287 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:26,719 Speaker 2: legally in the country to stay in the country. They 288 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 2: want them to be voters. 289 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 4: This is a power play. 290 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 2: It's it's clear and it's obvious, but it's obvious to us. 291 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 2: And so now I'm forced to ask, is it obvious 292 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 2: to others? Am I getting my hopes something? And that's 293 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 2: why I've put myself. I put myself in like I 294 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,679 Speaker 2: get a little teary on. I've put myself in the 295 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 2: place of there's no way that's possible that the American 296 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 2: people saw this move from the Democrats, like. 297 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 4: Oh, those people are full of craft. 298 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 2: There's no way that happened. Because if it did, if 299 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 2: it did, oh my gosh, what else is possible? 300 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 4: And so I brought this up briefly yesterday, and I 301 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 4: wasn't sure if I was going to get into it. 302 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 2: You know, everybody talking about the fact that Republicans are 303 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 2: gonna get slaughtered in the midterms. Now, you know, I 304 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 2: have a path to midterm victory, and right now Republicans 305 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 2: are not taking it the way I want them to 306 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 2: take it. But this idea they're gonna get slaughtered, everything's possible, 307 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 2: and I can read it tee lely Frong, but I 308 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 2: don't know. 309 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 4: If that's the case. Let's discuss this thirty days from that. 310 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz. So what does it mean to be 311 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 2: at war? What does warfare actually look like? And let's 312 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 2: discuss the art of deception when it comes to warfare. 313 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 2: I mean it's a huge part of things. I get 314 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 2: that we may not like it. I get that the 315 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 2: American press can't stand it. But if you did what 316 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 2: the American press said to do, you would lose everything, 317 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 2: all the time, everywhere. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, Good 318 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 2: to be with you. Steve Yates joins me right now. 319 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 2: He is the Senior Research Fellow on China Natural Security 320 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 2: Policy and is at the Young Fellow Asian Study Center 321 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 2: with the Heritage Foundation, and sir, good to be with you. 322 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 2: We were talking a little bit before we joined the 323 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 2: radio show about what it is that we're seeing from 324 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 2: President Trump when there is this conversation about how he 325 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 2: is speaking to the Iranians and how the Iranians offered 326 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 2: him a gift on it was about oil and natural gas. 327 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 4: I don't know what the gift is. 328 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 2: You take a look at the Wall Street Journal and 329 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 2: they've got the headline a wannabe strong man rises in 330 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 2: Iran as Trump seeks a deal maker and this is 331 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 2: Mohammed Bager Galibaf, who is the spokesperson or the speaker 332 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 2: I should say, of the Iranian in a parliament. 333 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 4: Now, I think the first question is who. 334 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 2: Made this guy as somebody who could speak for the 335 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 2: Iranian people? And then the follow up is how can 336 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 2: the president make a claim that he's talking to a 337 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 2: Ran about a deal and ending nuclear weapons this and 338 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 2: ending the war that when you've also bragged that you've 339 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 2: killed the entire leadership. 340 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,479 Speaker 7: Well Tony, I think what makes it difficult for us 341 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 7: is that a lot of these things are true at 342 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 7: the same time. Number One, we don't really get to 343 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 7: know who the president is talking to yet, because to 344 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 7: publicly identify that person is to put the world's biggest 345 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 7: bullseye on them by islam As terrorists and the remnants 346 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 7: of the regime that are not yet cowed by getting 347 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 7: mowed over by major military operations. And the President talks 348 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 7: about this gift, I too sort of smile and wonder 349 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 7: what this possible gift is. But what it sounds to 350 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 7: me like in tradecraft is that you have someone you're 351 00:21:58,280 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 7: talking to, but you need to know are they the 352 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 7: real deal? And if they do something for you that 353 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 7: you can verify is done and is a value. It's 354 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 7: sort of like an earnest deposit on credibility. Then you say, well, 355 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 7: if they can move those resources, they could open. 356 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 8: Up this ceilane or whatever it was the test that 357 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 8: was given. 358 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 7: Then you know you're dealing with a credible counterpart who 359 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 7: has some measure of influence. And it seems like the 360 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 7: President is feeling his way across the stream, stepping rock 361 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 7: by rock in doing that, and so people might not 362 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 7: like it. People might want instant answers. I deeply, deeply 363 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 7: doubt the instant information is durable and useful information, and. 364 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 8: I think that's necessary under the current circumstances. 365 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 2: Now, this idea that all warfare is deception, right, that's 366 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 2: unsue of the art of war. 367 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 4: This infuriates the American people because. 368 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,199 Speaker 2: What we want is information. What we want is answers. 369 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 4: I can go to my. 370 00:22:55,880 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 2: Phone, I can turn on any part of the internet 371 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 2: anywhere if you will, and I can get. 372 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 4: Intant information, but I don't have information here. 373 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 2: And how the political left and how the media looks 374 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 2: at this and shares this is we're being lied to. 375 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 4: We had cenator Chris Van Holland. 376 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 2: We're being lied to about this, lied to about the other, 377 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 2: live to about he's talking to you, lied to about 378 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 2: the thing which I considering it's giving aid and comfort 379 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 2: to the enemy. How standard is this throughout our history 380 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 2: regarding what the American people are told and what is well? 381 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 7: I mean, if you go deeper and just talk about 382 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 7: Western civilization, it goes back thousands of years. And if 383 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 7: we were talking with Victor Davis Hanson number one, it 384 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 7: would be a very long conversation, but it would also 385 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 7: be very well researched on what was going on in 386 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 7: those ancient cultures with exactly tradecraft, in use of power 387 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 7: and in warfare and political warfare, deception, manipulation, all these 388 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 7: things are very very important parts of comprehensive warfare. 389 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:56,959 Speaker 8: And it's the way our enemies operate. 390 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 7: It's the way that Chinese Communist Party operates, It's the 391 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 7: way the Islamist regimes operate. 392 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 8: They use all of these tools. I want to stop 393 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 8: you that from terms, if you're gambling. 394 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 2: I want to stop you there for a second because 395 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 2: you said something that I don't think people comprehend, and 396 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 2: I want a little more understanding. 397 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 4: Of they operate. 398 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 2: This way you brought up the communist Chinese Party and 399 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 2: brought up into the Islamist How do they operate? And 400 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 2: when you say they operate this way, who are you 401 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 2: comparing them to the United States or other forces that 402 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 2: we have fought before? 403 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 7: Right, Well, I would say when you're talking about the 404 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 7: Chinese Communist Party and say the Islamist regime that's in Iran. 405 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 7: The Islamists that we have faced before and after nine 406 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 7: to eleven, they don't really fuss about about is what 407 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 7: they're broadcasting true. 408 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 8: They only look at is it useful? Is it moving 409 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 8: or manipulating a target? Is it dividing an enemy? 410 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 7: And if I can divide and distract my enemy, then 411 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 7: I have a net advantage without having. 412 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 8: Had the fought fire a shot. 413 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 7: So they use comprehensive tools, whether it's economic influence and coercion, 414 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 7: information influence and coercion, and then also have the use 415 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 7: of force, whether it is it's civilian in addition to 416 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 7: military targets. 417 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 8: We however, try. 418 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 7: To be better and I admire that impulse and it's 419 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 7: a good impulse. 420 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 8: It's part of our checks and balances. But especially since the. 421 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 7: Vietnam era, we have tried to conduct warfare and ways 422 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 7: that are constraining so that we will limit the kind 423 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 7: of public statements that our leaders put out because we 424 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 7: don't want them deceiving us, and we shouldn't want them 425 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 7: to deceive us. But the problem is when you live 426 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 7: in globalize and instant information, you don't speak to only 427 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 7: one audience. So consider this like playing poker and I 428 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 7: get to hold my cards close to the chest, but 429 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 7: yours have to be faced up on the table because 430 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 7: you've chosen to live in a free and open society. 431 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 7: Free and open society is good, but it's also very 432 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 7: very vulnerable to manipulation and attack, and at a time 433 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 7: of crisis, you at least have to be aware of 434 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 7: that and try to figure are their options that can 435 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 7: make us less vulnerable, and are there ways to make 436 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 7: them less cloaked and have to. 437 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 8: Show some of their cards. 438 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 7: And that's where some of the tools we're using in 439 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 7: this campaign come back into that category of making a headfake, 440 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 7: maybe giving out different information to try to draw them 441 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 7: off guard, and having them in negotiations. At the same time, 442 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 7: we don't believe them and we might just as well 443 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 7: hit them. 444 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 2: Talking to Steve Yates, Senior Research trail for China and 445 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 2: National Security policy at the Heritage Foundation Heritage dot org. 446 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 4: So we can't be sure that anybody's being spoken to. 447 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,439 Speaker 2: We had all the conversation about President Trump, if you 448 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 2: don't come to the table in two days, we're going 449 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 2: to hit all the power plants, and then saying all right, 450 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:52,479 Speaker 2: we'll give it a five day reprieve. But he had 451 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 2: never hit a power plant, So who knows how what 452 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 2: that was. But I hear the political left telling me 453 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 2: that this would be a war crime. It is this 454 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 2: constant going at President Trump. Is this a Trump phenomenon 455 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 2: or is there always been a bit of oh, the 456 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 2: administration's lying to you. I mean, I'm asking you more 457 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 2: of a political question. I am maybe a historical question here, 458 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 2: But this seems, even in a world of the left 459 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 2: hating Donald Trump, very new and very much to me, and. 460 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 4: Aid and comfort to the enemy, conversation. 461 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 8: Well, it is all of those things. 462 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 7: And I remember twenty plus years ago being in the 463 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 7: White House and being subjected to all all of these 464 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 7: kinds of things back in that day, At that time, 465 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,120 Speaker 7: George W. Bush wasn't seen as a warm and cuddly 466 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 7: man of August stature. And kind of compassionate conservatism. 467 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,360 Speaker 8: That was the brand. He was called Hitler. 468 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 7: All kinds of accusations of war crimes were thrown at 469 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 7: him and everyone who worked for him. In national security. 470 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 7: It's on steroids with Trump, for sure. And the oddity 471 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 7: of it is that Donald Trump is doing things that 472 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,199 Speaker 7: should actually be in alignment with what a lot of 473 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 7: these forces would want. 474 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 8: He is trying to avoid. 475 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 7: Destruction of the civilian infrastructure, trying to avoid civilian casualties. 476 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 7: And if you get the scope of these major military operations, 477 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 7: number one, they're amazing in terms of their lethality and 478 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 7: effectiveness militarily, but also they're pretty amazing in avoiding mass 479 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 7: civilian casualties while hitting a wide geography that's actually pretty cautious. 480 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 8: And then his willingness to pull back and talk. 481 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 7: With people that other people would refuse to talk to 482 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 7: that opens up a chance for de escalation that others 483 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 7: would have rejected. So in a lot of ways, he's 484 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 7: much more careful and pragmatic than any of his critics 485 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 7: would ever give him credit for. 486 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 2: When we talk about the pulling back, and this is 487 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 2: where I become concerned that it's possible that I have 488 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 2: a different objective than the president. My objective is to 489 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 2: end the regime so there is no more terrorist threat 490 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 2: of any kind that includes nuclear threat. It's an all 491 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,959 Speaker 2: encompassing conversation. But no more funding of Hesbel and Juma's, 492 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 2: no more funding of the Huti Rebels, no more or 493 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 2: funding of cells that could be right here in the 494 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 2: United States and other places. It's overdone and complete. And yes, 495 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 2: you allow the Iranian people, these Persians to go about 496 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 2: living their lives and creating their life. 497 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 4: For President Trump, he sees the world differently. 498 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 9: Right. 499 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 2: It is for me what I coined years ago is 500 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 2: these are the two rules of trump Ism. The first 501 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 2: rule of trump Ism is Trump wins. And the second 502 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 2: rule of trump Ism is that a deal can always 503 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 2: be made as long as it adheres to the first 504 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 2: rule of trump Ism, which gives me pause. It gives 505 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 2: me real concern. As you see it, your conversations, your insight, 506 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 2: what do you think the president's real goal is? 507 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 7: Well, first, I would say that I agreed completely with 508 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 7: the Tony Katz theory of the universe as you've just 509 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 7: described it, and the theory of how the president operates. 510 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 8: Of course, he's more complex than that. 511 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 7: When we use these simplistic distillations to try to understand 512 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 7: and make points, and those are valid, and there's more 513 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 7: to what he's doing than just those things. But broadly speaking, 514 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 7: what you described is exactly why people get concerned, nervous, 515 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 7: why they wonder whether they're getting complete information. Some people 516 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 7: pathologically unwilling to accept the information they're given. But we 517 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 7: have to have to try to step back, and that's 518 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 7: the hardest thing in the world to do, because we 519 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 7: are addicted to instant information and belief that we have 520 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 7: instant knowledge and reality. When these are evolving situations, and 521 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 7: President Trump likes to operate in shifting sands sands, he 522 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 7: might have made shift. 523 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 8: That's where he finds his deals, that's where he finds 524 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 8: his leverage. 525 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 7: But ultimately he is changing the tectonic plates the world. 526 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 8: Is moving around on. 527 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 7: And so when I get concerned about it, at least 528 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 7: I just remind myself. Broadly speaking, the Middle East has 529 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 7: never been in a better position to have a more 530 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 7: stable next decade or two than since the Abraham Accords 531 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 7: and whatever comes out of this. 532 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 2: Yes, and I agree that the Abraham Accords is the 533 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 2: start of everything. 534 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 4: It can all be brought. 535 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 2: Back to that Steve Yates from the Heritage Foundation before 536 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 2: I Let you Go. Is there a consideration from Trump? 537 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 2: The War Powers Act, the price of oil? Do these 538 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 2: things move him to wanting to wrap things up more 539 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 2: than the idea of the regimes. 540 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 7: And I don't think President Trump needed any motivation to 541 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 7: try to want to want to wrap things up. It 542 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 7: has been his impulse, his DNA for four plus decades, 543 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 7: and he's been on television talking about it forever. And 544 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 7: so the idea that he would ever put himself at 545 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 7: risk of being in a forever war, as we like 546 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 7: to call them, is basically zero. And so we're in 547 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 7: a period where we've been going for a month. We 548 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 7: don't see clearly exactly how this land. But I don't 549 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 7: think it's the War Powers Act, and I don't which 550 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 7: gives sixty to ninety days slack, so we're still well 551 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 7: within that. And I don't think it's sort of the 552 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 7: concern of the markets, although he's really sensitive to markets. 553 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 7: And so that's why I believe some kind of a 554 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 7: deal and a de escalation is coming in the next 555 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 7: week or two, or a major major hit is coming 556 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 7: in the next week or two, and no matter what 557 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 7: happens when we deescalate Israel and our Arab allies and 558 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 7: perhaps others, they're going to be mowing the lawn in 559 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 7: this region while we're there to come in as needed 560 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 7: going forward. But I don't expect America to be the 561 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 7: everyday maintenance crew for this region. 562 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 4: I've never heard the term in warfare mowing the lawn. 563 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 2: That's going to get used right there, Steve Yates follow 564 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 2: my Twitter X Steve Yates y A t E. 565 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 4: S from the Heritage Foundation. 566 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 2: I appreciate you being here, sir. More is coming up. 567 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 4: I'm Tony Katz. 568 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 2: So as you know, ICE, Immigration Customs Enforcement, they showed 569 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 2: up at the airports, they got the crowds moving. 570 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 4: You went from have lines of four. 571 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 2: Hours, five hours plus two lines that. 572 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 4: Disappeared, Tony Kats, Tony Kats today, good to be with you. 573 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 2: And at CNN it was like, well maybe it was 574 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 2: just a slower travel day. 575 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 4: That's that's insane. But it's so CNN and people are 576 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 4: angry about it. 577 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 2: The left is outraged that we would use ICE in 578 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 2: this way. Meanwhile, people are talking ICE saying thank you, 579 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 2: and what is ICE doing. 580 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 4: ICE officers. 581 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 2: Are handing out bottles of water. Huh. I know a 582 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 2: guy he's on the radio. 583 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 4: From what I'm told, incredibly handsome guy. 584 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 2: He is the kind of guy that you look at 585 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 2: and you're like, I want to carry that guy's babies. 586 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 4: And that's the men. And he said on radio, you 587 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 4: know what Republicans should do. 588 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 2: Republicans they should they should grab bottles of water, then 589 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 2: food and go to airports in their estates where there 590 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 2: are the little lines are two hours, three hours, four 591 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 2: hours long, and they should hand out the water and 592 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 2: hand out the sandwiches and say, hey, sorry, Democrats are 593 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 2: doing this to you. We've been voting to fund DHS. 594 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 2: They won't do it. It's just so ridiculous and now you 595 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 2: have to suffer. And I'm so sorry for that, but 596 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 2: I just want to make a little bit easier. We're 597 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 2: trying our best. Please, please please call your center, call 598 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 2: Democrats to tell them to stop this madness. They didn't 599 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 2: do it. Ridiculous. If you ask me, ice is handing 600 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 2: out bottles of water. And the question asked, well, where'd 601 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:57,879 Speaker 2: they get the water? I don't know, the store. This 602 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 2: is the waste of money. We got billions of dollars 603 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 2: being spent to medicaid fraud. But it was a couple 604 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:08,320 Speaker 2: of bottles of water from Costco that broke the camel's back. Gotcha. 605 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 2: Republicans missed a moment. They should have been doing this. 606 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 2: They should have been talking to people. They should have 607 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:22,359 Speaker 2: been hands on to show America how hands off the 608 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 2: reality and the dangers and the problems that. 609 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 4: They're creating for America. Democrats are. 610 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 2: This is what we said. Somebody listened, just not the 611 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 2: right group. I'm Tony Katz. 612 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 1: Line from Vall Hartland and the Crossroads of America. It's 613 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:50,839 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today, So getting ready for. 614 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 2: The White House briefing between the war, between what's going 615 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,240 Speaker 2: on with Department Phone Land security and lack of funding 616 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 2: because Democrats like long lines unhappy Americans because they think 617 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 2: it'll give them power. Hey, I don't want them to 618 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 2: be like this. But here we are Tony Katz, Tony 619 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:08,320 Speaker 2: Kats today. 620 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 4: Guys. 621 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 2: It's good to be here. It's good to be with you. 622 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 2: An absolute thrill. Find everything at Tony kats dot com. 623 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 2: A live streaming on the YouTube. Be a part of it. 624 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 2: Everybody gets a cookie. Hold on, we're out of cookies. 625 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 2: Oh I should have been here earlier, So wait on 626 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 2: the White House briefing. I will bring that to you 627 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 2: when it happens. But there's a story at a news 628 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 2: nation about investigations going on, and we're not just talking 629 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:43,760 Speaker 2: about the congressional investigation into, for example, the hospices. What 630 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 2: has been uncovered in California regarding the amount of hospice 631 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 2: centers and sites and companies in Los Angeles. You would 632 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 2: think that everybody is dying in Los Angeles, dying to 633 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 2: be famous joke. And you see that there's just no 634 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 2: way that these companies can be billing as much as 635 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 2: they are and serving anybody. They're not serving anybody, and 636 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 2: no one's there. And people like Nick Shirley make the 637 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 2: videos and these shows up and no one's there. 638 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 4: No one is there. 639 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:30,280 Speaker 2: So with that you realize that there is a massive 640 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 2: shell game going on, just like what we saw in Minneapolis. 641 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 2: Important to note we don't know of of all the 642 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 2: people involved in this hospice racket. 643 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:49,359 Speaker 4: That's exactly what it is. It's a hospice racket, right, but. 644 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 2: Doesn't seem to be at the first bit of reporting 645 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 2: that they are Somali nationals. I think there is a 646 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 2: real reason to look at those you're letting into the 647 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,760 Speaker 2: country and whether or not they want to be Americans 648 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 2: and live the American way of life, or whether or 649 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 2: not their culture is compatible to Western civilization. If you 650 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 2: tell me that's not important, if you tell me that 651 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 2: that's bigoted, I will tell those people to poundstands. I 652 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 2: think it's outrageously important to maintain American safety and security. 653 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 2: But the idea that only from people from Somalia would 654 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 2: engage in fraud, well that was always a nutter of 655 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 2: an idea. There are plenty of people who have nothing 656 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 2: who are not Somali who are involved in the fraud, 657 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 2: waste and abuse in Minneapolis. There just seems to be 658 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 2: a tremendous percentage of people who are from Somalia or 659 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:48,280 Speaker 2: are Somalian descent who were involved in this. Two things 660 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 2: can be true at the exact same time. The facts 661 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,760 Speaker 2: in the data tell a story. If facts in data 662 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,880 Speaker 2: to some people are racist, well though some people should 663 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 2: not be considered when having this conversation. I have no 664 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:13,359 Speaker 2: idea who's involved yet with this fraud. What is it 665 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 2: that the government of California knew and when did they 666 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 2: know it? And it could be possible that while Gavin 667 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 2: Newsom is a low individual, he may not be Tim 668 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:30,839 Speaker 2: wallslow because as is reported, at least reported, we may 669 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 2: find out more information. The Newsom administration made a move 670 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 2: on the issue of fraud. Back in twenty twenty one. 671 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom signed legislation placing a moratorium on new hospice licenses, 672 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:50,400 Speaker 2: preventing bad actors from entering the system while strengthening oversight 673 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 2: of existing providers. And you can look at that and say, oh, well, 674 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:55,800 Speaker 2: isn't that nice. 675 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 4: To see from a Democrat? But twenty twenty one, something 676 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 4: else going on? 677 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 2: What was it? What else was going on in twenty 678 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 2: twenty one? I was thinking about my OnlyFans career. No, no, no, 679 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 2: that was twenty twenty three. What was it that was 680 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 2: happening in twenty twenty one? 681 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,280 Speaker 4: That's right, COVID. 682 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 2: Were we going to find that the Newsome administration is 683 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 2: making a claim to something that isn't connected to what. 684 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 4: It is they did that they actually did. 685 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 2: Put a moratorium on things because of what COVID did, 686 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:35,840 Speaker 2: because of these other things. 687 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,880 Speaker 4: I don't know. I guess some bit of investigation is going. 688 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:44,959 Speaker 2: To find that out. But when we find out when 689 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 2: we find out that, just like we did in Minneapolis, 690 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 2: that you had these reports given the recognition that there 691 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 2: was fraud. Hey there's a problem. Hey, Hey this is happening. Hey, 692 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,359 Speaker 2: that's happening. Hey, this is an issue. Hey you gotta 693 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 2: do something about this. Hey, we're reporting this. 694 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 4: And the. 695 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 2: Government folk there in Minneapolis and Minnesota did nothing because 696 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 2: they could take the report, but they didn't have anything 697 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,319 Speaker 2: to do with the report, and that was purposeful. Their 698 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,319 Speaker 2: system did not allow them to follow through on when 699 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,920 Speaker 2: hearing about an allegation of fraud because the system wasn't 700 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 2: meant to do that. It didn't care if there was 701 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 2: fraud as long as you were writing checks. Well, look, 702 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 2: how good we are. Remember a great difference between the 703 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:41,800 Speaker 2: political right and the political left. The political right views 704 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 2: the success of a program by how many people don't 705 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,760 Speaker 2: need it. The left views the success of a program 706 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,400 Speaker 2: as how many people are on it. Said differently, the 707 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 2: left views it as how many people use it, and 708 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:55,880 Speaker 2: the right views it as how many people are off 709 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 2: of it. 710 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:57,760 Speaker 4: That's the difference. 711 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 2: That is a very concrete example of a difference between 712 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 2: the political rights and the political left. And there are differences. 713 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 2: Don't tell me about the uniparty nonsense. There are some 714 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 2: things where they are in tandem to the stupidity. 715 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 4: We can agree to such things. I bring this up. 716 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 2: Because the FBI and the IRS are now collaborating to 717 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,399 Speaker 2: take a look at funding of domestic terrorism efforts. And 718 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:39,400 Speaker 2: we know that in the issue with Minnesota and smalling 719 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:43,280 Speaker 2: nationals was that money was going back, as City Journal 720 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:51,359 Speaker 2: reported it, to al Shabab, a terrorist organization. So now 721 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 2: it's a look at what are we setting up in 722 00:42:54,239 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 2: terms of charity, and it's going to Pam Bondi is 723 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 2: saying that part of this would be to root out 724 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:09,359 Speaker 2: all culpable culprits of culpable participants, including organizers and funders 725 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 2: in all domestic terrorism activities, rooting out the fraud, rooting 726 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:26,759 Speaker 2: out the support of terrorism with our dollars. That's that's fantastic, 727 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,239 Speaker 2: That's what we should be doing. 728 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:32,760 Speaker 4: That's excellent news. 729 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,400 Speaker 2: Is there anybody out there who's going to say that 730 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,439 Speaker 2: it's terrible news, that this is a bad idea. Why 731 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 2: are we doing this? The answer is you better believe it. 732 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 2: There will absolutely be people who think that this is bad. 733 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 2: When Trump said drain the swamp, I looked at it 734 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:55,919 Speaker 2: like I look at many things and said, Okay, nice 735 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,359 Speaker 2: bit of sloganeering, make America great again. Nice bit of sloganeering. 736 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,279 Speaker 2: Make America great again? Is the same thing as hope 737 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:09,120 Speaker 2: and change. It's the same exact thing, which is to 738 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 2: say hope and change. And the reason it works so 739 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:15,480 Speaker 2: well is that it could mean anything you wanted to 740 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 2: mean anything. What do you hope for? What do you 741 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:28,239 Speaker 2: want to change? Touta make America great again? What do 742 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 2: you want to be great? What does it mean to 743 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 2: be great? Something different for everyone? Simple. I think that 744 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,759 Speaker 2: the need for these investigations, the need for searching in this, 745 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 2: the need for digging in on this. If there isn't 746 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:54,319 Speaker 2: a moment of agreement on these kinds of things, then 747 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,200 Speaker 2: what is there actually a moment of agreement on it? 748 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,319 Speaker 2: We can't agree on the eye idea that we don't 749 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:06,160 Speaker 2: want billions of dollars going to terrorist organizations in name 750 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:13,280 Speaker 2: the African nation or to domestic terrorists. Maybe the problem 751 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:19,360 Speaker 2: is we have a political party that wanted to refer 752 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 2: to American citizens as the terrorists. 753 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,719 Speaker 4: Where is that story? Did you send it to me? 754 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,239 Speaker 2: What traduction to land or was it here? 755 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,440 Speaker 4: It is it is from zero Hedge. 756 00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:40,839 Speaker 2: Biden era intel assessment targeted white moms and homemakers as 757 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:49,600 Speaker 2: potential domestic terrorists. This a twenty twenty one intelligence assessment 758 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:53,960 Speaker 2: titled women advancing white, racially and ethnically motivated bolent extremism, 759 00:45:54,360 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 2: extremist radicalization and recruitment. Oh you're a suburban white woman 760 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,440 Speaker 2: for Trump terrorists. Oh you are going to a school 761 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:13,799 Speaker 2: board meeting terrorist. That's that's who they are. That's who 762 00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:18,120 Speaker 2: the left is. Do they focus on the things that 763 00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,239 Speaker 2: matter most to us or do they focus on preventing 764 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,560 Speaker 2: others from speaking so they can. 765 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:24,880 Speaker 4: Go about winning elections. 766 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 2: When Trump said dre in the swamp, I took it 767 00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:34,440 Speaker 2: as just a statement of Okay, that's. 768 00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,440 Speaker 4: A that's a disaligne. 769 00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,799 Speaker 2: It's just one of those things knowing that there was 770 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:44,239 Speaker 2: a swamp, but not actually knowing exactly how ugly it 771 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:48,799 Speaker 2: all is, and it is all outrageously ugly. Getting rid 772 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,440 Speaker 2: of fraud, getting rid of the abuse of the system, 773 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 2: getting rid of those people in these agencies who want 774 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,239 Speaker 2: to look at moms who happen to be conservative and say, well, 775 00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,440 Speaker 2: we label you a terrorist, so we saw you. 776 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all good stuff. 777 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,760 Speaker 2: And I would remind President Trump that even with everything 778 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 2: else going on, these are the things that are lasting things. 779 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,440 Speaker 2: Removing these people from the Intel community, removing these people 780 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,480 Speaker 2: from the State Department, removing any of these agencies or 781 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:23,600 Speaker 2: sub agencies or outlets or groups that utilize our dollars 782 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:28,239 Speaker 2: against us and message against us, and rooting out the 783 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 2: fraud and the fraudsters, and throwing the American citizens in 784 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:35,520 Speaker 2: jail who are guilty, and deporting those who aren't American citizens. 785 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,280 Speaker 2: And then we should punish the countries who sent them, 786 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:42,919 Speaker 2: you know, as a lesson. Waiting on the White House 787 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,040 Speaker 2: Press Briefing. When it starts, I will bring it to you. 788 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,640 Speaker 2: Keep it here. This is Tony kats today. Three more 789 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:51,600 Speaker 2: things to get to Tony Katz. Tony Katz today, Guys. 790 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,680 Speaker 2: These are things that should be headlines, but because with 791 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:59,960 Speaker 2: everything going on, they may not be headlines, just may. 792 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:03,560 Speaker 4: Not get there. Oh, there it is. There's my story. 793 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,600 Speaker 4: Let's start with the Seattle Seahawks. 794 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:12,680 Speaker 2: And you're saying to me, Tony, what why Washington state 795 00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:18,080 Speaker 2: tax free state? There's no income tax in Washington. This 796 00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:22,520 Speaker 2: changes because leftists ruin everything. 797 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,759 Speaker 4: You've already had. Howard Schultz Starbucks leave. 798 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:34,360 Speaker 2: Now they've decided to approve a millionaire tax, because why 799 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:39,360 Speaker 2: not take your time and your energies and tax people 800 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:48,439 Speaker 2: just because you can, you know, for the lulls, As 801 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:52,759 Speaker 2: the kids would say, why not. That's what they did 802 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:58,000 Speaker 2: in Washington State, a nine rate applying to everybody earning 803 00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,120 Speaker 2: more than a million dollars annually. And the governor, Bob 804 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:05,480 Speaker 2: Ferguson is like, I'm gonna sign that. But the general 805 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:10,239 Speaker 2: manager of the Seattle Seahawks is like, yeah, about that. 806 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:17,480 Speaker 2: About that. We're trying to keep a winning football team 807 00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:22,960 Speaker 2: here and we're trying to do our best to sign 808 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:23,880 Speaker 2: good players. 809 00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:28,920 Speaker 4: And if you have this facocta. 810 00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:34,120 Speaker 2: Stupid tax, it's gonna make our life very difficult because 811 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:40,560 Speaker 2: people are not gonna wanna play here. They've been utilizing that, 812 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:44,600 Speaker 2: Hey we're tax free for years, and now people are like, well, 813 00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,680 Speaker 2: you're not gonna be able to do that anymore. They're 814 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:51,800 Speaker 2: gonna have to pay more to get players. It's gonna 815 00:49:51,880 --> 00:50:02,920 Speaker 2: hurt them financially. So I have recently deemed myself although 816 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,520 Speaker 2: I have asked, and this is a true story, I 817 00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,480 Speaker 2: have asked. I said, I want to be named in 818 00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,920 Speaker 2: my state Indiana, although I'm willing to do it for 819 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,560 Speaker 2: the Midwest. If other governors would like to name me, 820 00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:17,239 Speaker 2: If Governor Stanton, Oklahoma, where we're on KRMG would like 821 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:21,280 Speaker 2: to name name me the ambassador to bring in business 822 00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,440 Speaker 2: from loser states. Originally I wanted to be named the 823 00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:28,200 Speaker 2: Indiana Ambassador to New York for grabbing business from normal people. 824 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,560 Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna need a better name, but go 825 00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,799 Speaker 2: with me on this. I go to New York, I 826 00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:38,200 Speaker 2: walk into businesses and I say, seriously, what's wrong with 827 00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:42,160 Speaker 2: you all? What are you doing here? Stop being in 828 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,680 Speaker 2: New York? This place is stupid. But the bagels, Tony, 829 00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:49,319 Speaker 2: would you shut it? You can ship the bagels in 830 00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:55,560 Speaker 2: until they're all gone. Come to my Indiana and actually 831 00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,799 Speaker 2: be in a place where there's a workforce, where there 832 00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:03,120 Speaker 2: are decent people, where the housing is inexpensive, and most importantly, 833 00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:07,120 Speaker 2: you can keep your money. 834 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 4: Come on, that's my pitch, that's my whole pitch. 835 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,440 Speaker 2: And I want to be the ambassador. And now I 836 00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:18,200 Speaker 2: mentioned a Governor stint or On in in Detroit, bad 837 00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,840 Speaker 2: that's not gonna happen. We're on in Illinois, but that's Pretzker. Sorry, 838 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,320 Speaker 2: Peoria that's not gonna happen. We're on in Saint Louis. 839 00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,680 Speaker 2: I don't even know who the governor is in Missouri. 840 00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,560 Speaker 2: Who's the governor of Missouri. Maybe we can make that 841 00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,280 Speaker 2: happen in Missouri. We're on a couple other places. 842 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:32,280 Speaker 4: We're on in North. 843 00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,919 Speaker 2: Carolina on WBT, but that is not gonna happen right now. 844 00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,080 Speaker 2: So right now it's just Indiana and Oklahoma. 845 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,080 Speaker 4: Boy has got a start where he starts. 846 00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,400 Speaker 2: I think you already have Indiana trying to get the 847 00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,840 Speaker 2: Chicago Bears to come to Indiana, which is a no 848 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:57,080 Speaker 2: freaking brainer. It's a no brainer. You have Chicago, which 849 00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:01,560 Speaker 2: just passed they're putting in place a new hospitality tax 850 00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,680 Speaker 2: to attract more tourists. So what are they doing. They're 851 00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:09,279 Speaker 2: raising the taxes on a hotel room from seventeen and 852 00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:16,480 Speaker 2: a half percent to nineteen percent, and they think they're 853 00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:21,480 Speaker 2: gonna get more tourism that way. Well, why would you 854 00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,800 Speaker 2: ever go to Chicago for an event. You're insane to 855 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:28,239 Speaker 2: go to Illinois for an event. Come to Indiana, Come 856 00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:32,320 Speaker 2: to Oklahoma, Come to North Carolina, all right, the governor, 857 00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:36,960 Speaker 2: but everything else. Come to North Carolina. There are places 858 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:42,200 Speaker 2: you can go. So the Bears are discussing the possibility 859 00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:47,040 Speaker 2: of moving the team to northwest Indiana, a town called Hammond, where. 860 00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,440 Speaker 4: This amazing opportunity is and can be built. 861 00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,000 Speaker 2: And some people, because it's Hammond, want the Bears to 862 00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,799 Speaker 2: change their name from the Bears to the Eggs so 863 00:52:54,840 --> 00:53:00,000 Speaker 2: they could be called the Hammond Eggs. 864 00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,840 Speaker 4: Okay, Chicago Bears it is. But why just the Bears. 865 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,200 Speaker 2: The Cubs, the White Sox, the black Hawks, the Bulls 866 00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:10,880 Speaker 2: come to Indiana? What are you doing? 867 00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:13,280 Speaker 4: What are you doing? 868 00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,080 Speaker 2: By the way, Oklahoma, they've got the Okay see Thunder, 869 00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,720 Speaker 2: Maybe they'd like another pro team. What are you doing 870 00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,440 Speaker 2: staying in a state that hates you? So to the 871 00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:27,640 Speaker 2: Seattle Seahawks, what are you doing? What? 872 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:29,560 Speaker 10: Hi? 873 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:34,160 Speaker 2: My name's Tony Katz from the Great state of Indiana. 874 00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,359 Speaker 2: How can we help you? We're gonna be We're gonna 875 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:42,040 Speaker 2: be six million people. We're gonna have fourteen professional teams. 876 00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,879 Speaker 2: That's what it's gonna be. And by the way, there's 877 00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:49,520 Speaker 2: a lot of issues with building out stadiums and giveaways 878 00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,799 Speaker 2: and stuff like that. I think that the system that 879 00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,719 Speaker 2: we how we've gone about doing this with the Bears 880 00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:57,840 Speaker 2: is really interesting. Because the Bears have real skin in 881 00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,239 Speaker 2: the game. Not perfect, but much better than I thought 882 00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:01,680 Speaker 2: it would be. 883 00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:03,560 Speaker 4: The Seahawk should move. 884 00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:13,319 Speaker 2: And then there is Jennifer Welch, the podcaster, the new 885 00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:17,080 Speaker 2: face of the Democrats. She's the Democrats Joe Rogan. 886 00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:17,279 Speaker 4: Don't you know? 887 00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:22,640 Speaker 2: And she's there on the MS now Freak Show. I 888 00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:26,920 Speaker 2: don't know when this was, but I guess people missed 889 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,560 Speaker 2: this her saying this about jd Vance. 890 00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,400 Speaker 11: He is married to a woman of Indian descent. He 891 00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,919 Speaker 11: has mixed race children. So to all of the MAGA 892 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,879 Speaker 11: voters out there, if this man will not defend his 893 00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:44,439 Speaker 11: wife and will not defend his kids, do you think he. 894 00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,440 Speaker 2: Gives a crap about you or anything to do with you. 895 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:54,600 Speaker 2: What is she talking about defending his wife, defending his kids? 896 00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:57,320 Speaker 4: You think because he's. 897 00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:02,319 Speaker 2: Married to a woman who's Indian, he doesn't He's not 898 00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,120 Speaker 2: going to protect his kids. He doesn't love his kids. 899 00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:10,200 Speaker 2: Is this not the official Democrat party position? Just say 900 00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:14,400 Speaker 2: anything the anterest Yes, that is their position. That's the 901 00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:18,319 Speaker 2: Gennifer Waltz position. I'm Tony Katz, get ready for the 902 00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:24,240 Speaker 2: White House Press briefing. Tony Katz. Tony Katz today getting 903 00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:28,240 Speaker 2: ready for the White House Press briefing Tony Katz, Tony 904 00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,279 Speaker 2: Katz today, good to be here, Good to be with you. 905 00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,839 Speaker 2: Before we do, though, I think it's only fair that 906 00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,400 Speaker 2: I torture you with the most terrific thing that Senator 907 00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,479 Speaker 2: Corey Booker of New Jersey may have ever said. 908 00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:48,200 Speaker 12: Prat that arguably got the most attention in the past 909 00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,640 Speaker 12: year since Donald Trump has been back in office. Is 910 00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:54,879 Speaker 12: California Governor Gavin Newsom. And in many ways he's doing 911 00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:58,160 Speaker 12: the opposite of what you are saying. He is on 912 00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:02,840 Speaker 12: social media mimicking President Trump's style. He is trying to 913 00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:07,239 Speaker 12: fight President Trump the way President Trump fights Democrats. 914 00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,200 Speaker 4: So Gavin and I are longtime friends. 915 00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:15,839 Speaker 13: When we were both at mayoral level, and I told him, 916 00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,040 Speaker 13: I said, brother, we got a romance because when you 917 00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:22,320 Speaker 13: stood up for gay and lesbian couples and married them 918 00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,200 Speaker 13: against the law, and the whole Democratic Party was saying, 919 00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,839 Speaker 13: you're ruining our coming election, because that was when Bush 920 00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:29,400 Speaker 13: was trying to put it on ballots. 921 00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:31,520 Speaker 5: Every day, blamed him for John Carey losing. 922 00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:33,759 Speaker 13: Yes, But yet he stood up for what we now 923 00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:35,080 Speaker 13: know looking back was right. 924 00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:46,320 Speaker 2: Did he just say romance with Cavinism? You know, people 925 00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:51,680 Speaker 2: wonder if the Democrats have a masculinity problem. 926 00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:53,840 Speaker 4: What wonder? 927 00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:54,279 Speaker 2: No more? 928 00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:57,160 Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure. 929 00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:03,560 Speaker 2: Good do they hear themselves when they talk? 930 00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:09,880 Speaker 4: Do they hear what it is that they say? 931 00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:14,000 Speaker 2: Now, there is plenty of news and I have much 932 00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:15,560 Speaker 2: more to get to. But let me get to two 933 00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:22,520 Speaker 2: things as we're waiting on the briefing. First, there has 934 00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:29,040 Speaker 2: now been a vote of no confidence against the sheriff 935 00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:34,080 Speaker 2: in Pma County, Arizona, unanimous vote of no confidence. 936 00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:35,760 Speaker 4: They're like, wait a second, how do I know this guy? 937 00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:41,320 Speaker 2: This is the sheriff investigating the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie, 938 00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:46,960 Speaker 2: the mother of today's show host Savannah Guthrie. This is 939 00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:50,960 Speaker 2: so weird, the idea that she just up and disappeared 940 00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,480 Speaker 2: and no one can find no trace. No this know 941 00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:57,680 Speaker 2: that I accept it at the beginning that maybe they're 942 00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,440 Speaker 2: not telling us everything. Again, the concept of miss direction. 943 00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:03,040 Speaker 2: Maybe they were trying to act aloof and maybe lure 944 00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,240 Speaker 2: some people or you know, into a into a false 945 00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,920 Speaker 2: sense of security. All these kinds of things are possible. 946 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:11,320 Speaker 4: Did they really screw this up? 947 00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:13,400 Speaker 2: Because you are left with. 948 00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:18,280 Speaker 4: The overwhelming belief that they screwed this up. 949 00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:23,680 Speaker 2: And now you've got the vote of no confidence and 950 00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:30,800 Speaker 2: he won't he won't resign, he won't go. Well, I 951 00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:37,160 Speaker 2: think I think that's going to be a hard thing 952 00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:43,959 Speaker 2: to overcome. That if it's a unanimous vote, you don't 953 00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:50,280 Speaker 2: have the confidence of the people you're leading, you have 954 00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:55,320 Speaker 2: to leave. And I'll tell you I mean. And then, oh, 955 00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:59,000 Speaker 2: did you hear that? They did an interview over the 956 00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:02,560 Speaker 2: Today Show with Vna guth three to first. It's our 957 00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:06,800 Speaker 2: first interview and it's gonna play over the next couple days. 958 00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,000 Speaker 2: And I said, listen, I'm a morning show host as well. 959 00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:10,840 Speaker 2: You guys know I do a morning show in Indianapolis. 960 00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:15,680 Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, if that's airing, No, no, nobody's listening. 961 00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:16,680 Speaker 4: They're going to watch that. 962 00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,400 Speaker 2: It is going to be the most watched thing of 963 00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:23,760 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. Savannah Guthrie telling us what she knows 964 00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:25,760 Speaker 2: and now she feels about her missing mother in one 965 00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:29,600 Speaker 2: of the most national stories out there. It blows my 966 00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:33,280 Speaker 2: mind that they can't find her. I find it frightening 967 00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:39,920 Speaker 2: that they can't find her. And I do think that 968 00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:42,440 Speaker 2: the sheriff a voter no confidence is okay, you have 969 00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:44,840 Speaker 2: to go. Now this doesn't mean somebody new is going 970 00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:48,040 Speaker 2: to find her. It doesn't even necessarily mean that the 971 00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,160 Speaker 2: investigation is as awful as I may think it is. 972 00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:54,200 Speaker 2: Remember I'm not on the inside. But it tells a 973 00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,560 Speaker 2: story that people are supposed to have some level of shame. 974 00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:02,439 Speaker 2: This brings us to the story about Chris. You think 975 01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:04,959 Speaker 2: this story is just nonsense, I'm telling you this story 976 01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:10,160 Speaker 2: matters quite a bit. Now. In this story, I'm about 977 01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,760 Speaker 2: to say some very very mean things about a restaurant 978 01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:17,360 Speaker 2: called Chili's. And you say to me, Tony, you have 979 01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:19,600 Speaker 2: really are you not aware of what's going on in 980 01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:22,000 Speaker 2: the world? Would you trust me on this just for 981 01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:29,360 Speaker 2: a moment. Thank you? Ruth Chris put out a statement. 982 01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:36,560 Speaker 2: The statement that Ruth Chris put out was that it 983 01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:39,320 Speaker 2: has a new dress code. Talked about it here on 984 01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:43,760 Speaker 2: the show Business casual for customers to wear proper tire, 985 01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:47,800 Speaker 2: with diners who don't comply being regulated relegated to the bar. 986 01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:53,160 Speaker 2: Take off your hat when entering the restaurant. You want 987 01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:57,080 Speaker 2: to wear a ball cap at the bar, or you 988 01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:59,840 Speaker 2: go right ahead. You want to wear it outside, But 989 01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,720 Speaker 2: no gym ware, no pool attire, no tank tops, no 990 01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:06,680 Speaker 2: clothing with offensive graphics or language revealing clothing are exposed 991 01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:16,480 Speaker 2: undergarments and what did I say? Damn straight Rus Chris, 992 01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:21,640 Speaker 2: you are absolutely positively right. You are terrific and you 993 01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,880 Speaker 2: are wonderful. You are going to save America and also 994 01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:28,680 Speaker 2: the steaks. Lah Now I get my stakes from defiancebeef 995 01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,560 Speaker 2: dot com. 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Why because 1005 01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:05,080 Speaker 2: those guys have a standard and standards are good. All 1006 01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:08,680 Speaker 2: of a sudden, you've got these restaurants, these little silly 1007 01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:12,120 Speaker 2: restaurants trying to mock Ruth Chris. 1008 01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:17,200 Speaker 4: There's a backlash. What do you mean there's a backlash? 1009 01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:20,600 Speaker 2: Chilis has decided they're going to get in on this. 1010 01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,280 Speaker 2: The only dress code at Chili's is that you have 1011 01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:26,600 Speaker 2: to be dressed yes, and you also have to wear 1012 01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:28,640 Speaker 2: very loose fitting pants so you can get them down 1013 01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:31,000 Speaker 2: fast enough, because Lord only knows what the baby back 1014 01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:35,680 Speaker 2: ribs are going to do to your intestines. Now, full disclosure, 1015 01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:38,000 Speaker 2: I haven't been in a Chilies in twenty years. I 1016 01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,600 Speaker 2: have no idea. Maybe the baby back ribs are delicious, 1017 01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:44,000 Speaker 2: but we do not mock people for having a standard kitten, 1018 01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:50,640 Speaker 2: not now, not ever, No, no ah, hell no. Standards 1019 01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:55,800 Speaker 2: are good and Ruth Chris is right. Ruth Chris is right, 1020 01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:58,840 Speaker 2: Chili's is wrong, Athbes is wrong, And if you want 1021 01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:01,960 Speaker 2: to show up someplace in pajamas, with all due respect, 1022 01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:10,040 Speaker 2: my dear friends, you are also wrong, wrong, and ridiculous. 1023 01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:12,800 Speaker 2: We'll get come back. We'll play a little bit of 1024 01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:14,720 Speaker 2: the White House briefing. Keep it here. 1025 01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:16,280 Speaker 4: This is Tony Kats today. 1026 01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:18,720 Speaker 2: Caroline Love It ready to come out and give the 1027 01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:19,960 Speaker 2: White House press briefing. 1028 01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:22,760 Speaker 4: I'll cover as much of it here as I can. 1029 01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:26,720 Speaker 4: For the record, it was scheduled to start forty eight 1030 01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:30,360 Speaker 4: minutes ago, so. 1031 01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:31,040 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1032 01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:32,760 Speaker 4: Maybe some last minute wranglings. 1033 01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:36,480 Speaker 2: We will see. But this right here is Caroline Lovett me. 1034 01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:38,680 Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz and the show is Tony Katz today. 1035 01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:45,440 Speaker 2: Let's listen in. And of course she's making it impossible 1036 01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:48,280 Speaker 2: for me to listen in. Don't worry. 1037 01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:53,320 Speaker 4: I have a plan because I'm good like that. 1038 01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:58,360 Speaker 2: Thank you so very much a producer, Landon for having 1039 01:03:58,520 --> 01:03:59,880 Speaker 2: the other stream. 1040 01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:03,960 Speaker 14: Go onj of twenty twenty three, Again, another innocent American 1041 01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:07,880 Speaker 14: citizen had her life stolen from her because Democrats embrace 1042 01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:13,000 Speaker 14: reckless open border policies and reckless sanctuary city policies which 1043 01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:17,680 Speaker 14: put criminals back into Americans sharing any more Americans have 1044 01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,600 Speaker 14: to die before the Democrats end this madness. 1045 01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:23,360 Speaker 5: President Trump's position is very clear. 1046 01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:26,480 Speaker 14: He wants the federal government opened, he wants the Department 1047 01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:28,800 Speaker 14: of Homeland Security funded, and he wants. 1048 01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:30,960 Speaker 5: The Democrats shut down to end immediately. 1049 01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:34,360 Speaker 14: The President will also continue to call on Democrat leaders 1050 01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:38,000 Speaker 14: and sanctuary cities and states like JB. Pritzker where this 1051 01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:41,760 Speaker 14: young beautiful girl was murdered, to cooperate with Ice and 1052 01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:46,360 Speaker 14: stop releasing illegal alien criminals into American neighborhoods. 1053 01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:47,920 Speaker 15: It is for the safety of every. 1054 01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:50,720 Speaker 14: American citizen, including all of the people in this room. 1055 01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:52,800 Speaker 14: With that, I will take your questions and here in 1056 01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:53,840 Speaker 14: our new media seat today. 1057 01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:55,120 Speaker 4: Wow, that was a quick intro. 1058 01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:57,400 Speaker 8: Thanks Caroline, thanks much for being here. 1059 01:04:57,600 --> 01:04:57,920 Speaker 2: Thank you. 1060 01:04:57,960 --> 01:04:58,960 Speaker 8: Having two questions for you. 1061 01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:01,200 Speaker 4: First off, if the learner around. 1062 01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:03,920 Speaker 16: Continues pass this current round of peace talks and with 1063 01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:06,120 Speaker 16: thousands of troops on their way to the Middle East, 1064 01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:08,800 Speaker 16: is there a point either a number of ground troops 1065 01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:11,120 Speaker 16: or a number of days at which the President. 1066 01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:12,439 Speaker 4: Will consider No one's going to answer that question. 1067 01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:16,520 Speaker 14: Well, as you know right now, that formal authorization from 1068 01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:19,600 Speaker 14: Congress is not necessary because we're currently in major combat 1069 01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:23,120 Speaker 14: operations in Iran. The Department of War and the President, 1070 01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:25,960 Speaker 14: as I said, estimated about a four to six week 1071 01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:29,760 Speaker 14: timeline for the full completion of these military combat operations 1072 01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:34,240 Speaker 14: were again on day twenty five today, and as a courtesy, nevertheless, 1073 01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:37,400 Speaker 14: the administration did notify Congress the Gang of Eight ahead 1074 01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:40,160 Speaker 14: of the launch of the operation twenty five days ago. 1075 01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:43,320 Speaker 14: And we've also had our top national security officials go 1076 01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:46,600 Speaker 14: to Capitol Hill to brief lawmakers again out of courtesy and. 1077 01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:47,520 Speaker 15: Out of respect for them. 1078 01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:50,800 Speaker 14: So at this moment it's unnecessary, but of course, President 1079 01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:52,760 Speaker 14: in this administration will always abide by the law. 1080 01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:56,240 Speaker 15: Gay you want to follow up, sure, go ahead, say you. 1081 01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:59,000 Speaker 16: Questions in our reporting speak a lot to young voters, 1082 01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:00,880 Speaker 16: many of them voted for Press Trump for the first 1083 01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:03,320 Speaker 16: time in twenty twenty four. You're hoping to have no 1084 01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:05,920 Speaker 16: more wars than to have lower prices. Now with the 1085 01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:08,360 Speaker 16: war taking place and with gas prices going up. Here's 1086 01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:10,320 Speaker 16: what President Trump's message would be to those voters who 1087 01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:13,320 Speaker 16: kind of swung into his coalition into a question but 1088 01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:14,919 Speaker 16: maybe don't field admistrations going. 1089 01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:15,480 Speaker 2: As they extended. 1090 01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:17,000 Speaker 15: President Trump is doing this for you. 1091 01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:19,280 Speaker 14: He's doing this for young people so that we are 1092 01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:21,080 Speaker 14: no longer threatened by. 1093 01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,880 Speaker 5: Our rogue terrorist regime in the Middle East that seeks. 1094 01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:25,880 Speaker 14: To kill the brave men and women who serve in 1095 01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:27,160 Speaker 14: our country in the Middle. 1096 01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:29,520 Speaker 15: East, many of them young people themselves. 1097 01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:31,920 Speaker 14: Young men and women who serve this country honorably in 1098 01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:34,760 Speaker 14: uniform and have been threatened, killed, and named by the 1099 01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:38,600 Speaker 14: rogue Iranian terrorrist regime for forty seven years. President Trump 1100 01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:40,840 Speaker 14: finally had the courage to step up and do what's 1101 01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:43,880 Speaker 14: right by our national security, our homeland security. 1102 01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:45,120 Speaker 4: As for the. 1103 01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:48,919 Speaker 14: Temporary, short term fluctuation and gas prices. The President has said, 1104 01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:53,000 Speaker 14: once these combat operations are over, this administration is going 1105 01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:56,760 Speaker 14: to continue to unleash American energy dominance. We're continuing to 1106 01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:58,680 Speaker 14: do that every day, and we're going to see PEP 1107 01:06:58,760 --> 01:06:59,960 Speaker 14: prices at the pump go back down. 1108 01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:02,880 Speaker 2: Just as this should have been the argument the day 1109 01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,160 Speaker 2: of here's what we're doing, here's why we're doing it, 1110 01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:06,439 Speaker 2: and here's how I'm doing for you. 1111 01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:10,320 Speaker 4: This is why it matters. Get people on your side. 1112 01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:13,800 Speaker 4: It would have taken twenty six minutes. 1113 01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:18,000 Speaker 2: Nope, twenty two minutes, Nope, seventeen minutes, seventeen minutes tops. 1114 01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:22,480 Speaker 2: This administration doesn't like to do that, and just as 1115 01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:23,800 Speaker 2: a matter of pr it's a mistake. 1116 01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:29,120 Speaker 7: TV has said that Iran has rejected the US's. 1117 01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:31,120 Speaker 8: Fifteen point plan to end the war. What's the White 1118 01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:34,480 Speaker 8: House's response to that, And have these talks hit a 1119 01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:34,880 Speaker 8: dead end? 1120 01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:37,600 Speaker 5: They have not. Talks continue. 1121 01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:40,000 Speaker 14: They are productive, as the President said on Monday, and 1122 01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:43,919 Speaker 14: they continue to be. However, I saw a fifteen point 1123 01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:46,800 Speaker 14: plan that was floated in the media. I would caution 1124 01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:49,760 Speaker 14: reporters in this room from reporting. 1125 01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:51,280 Speaker 4: About specul Okay, this is interesting. 1126 01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:54,920 Speaker 14: Speculative plans from anonymous sources. The White House never confirmed 1127 01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:57,480 Speaker 14: that full plan. There are elements of truth to it. 1128 01:07:57,600 --> 01:07:59,920 Speaker 2: So this was the Wallshit Journal. Some other places say 1129 01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:03,160 Speaker 2: Iran rejected a fifteen point plan that came out about 1130 01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:07,720 Speaker 2: an hour ago, that they this was rejected by the Iranians. Well, 1131 01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:10,800 Speaker 2: the first question would be by whom who's actually running 1132 01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:14,800 Speaker 2: the show over there? What Carolin Levett is saying is 1133 01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:16,960 Speaker 2: whoa woah. Just because that got said doesn't mean there 1134 01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:19,200 Speaker 2: was ever a plan. We never mentioned the plan, We 1135 01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:21,320 Speaker 2: didn't say that there was a fifteen point plan. Just 1136 01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:24,160 Speaker 2: because you're hearing things doesn't make it true. There is 1137 01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:26,679 Speaker 2: a lot of propaganda going back and forth, a lot 1138 01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:28,240 Speaker 2: of trying to manipulate. 1139 01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:28,519 Speaker 4: Going back and forth. 1140 01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:31,439 Speaker 2: And for the Iranians, the regime, the objective is to 1141 01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:37,160 Speaker 2: manipulate the press to try and turn the people against Trump. 1142 01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:41,439 Speaker 4: Which is very difficult to do. They're the American press. 1143 01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:44,760 Speaker 8: What's the US's response to that? What's the US responsible 1144 01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:45,559 Speaker 8: for that attack? 1145 01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:47,280 Speaker 15: I'll have to check in with the Pentagon on that 1146 01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:48,439 Speaker 15: and we'll get you an answer. 1147 01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:52,080 Speaker 17: Thank you, Caroline too, if I may speak of Johnson 1148 01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:55,240 Speaker 17: today described the conflict as wrapping up, but the eighty 1149 01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:59,160 Speaker 17: secondar Born Division, they're typically deployed at the beginning of conflicts. 1150 01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:02,640 Speaker 2: So does the way how us second Airborne, So the 1151 01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:03,960 Speaker 2: story goes how's been deployed. 1152 01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:06,720 Speaker 14: As I said at the beginning of my remarks, we 1153 01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:12,120 Speaker 14: are meeting our goals of Operation Epic Fury expeditiously. The 1154 01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:16,040 Speaker 14: President likes to maintain options at his disposal. It's the 1155 01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:19,280 Speaker 14: Pentagon's job to provide those options to the Commander in chief. 1156 01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:21,880 Speaker 14: For any specifics on troop deployments. 1157 01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:22,919 Speaker 15: Though, I would point you to the Pentagon. 1158 01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:27,400 Speaker 17: And today Philadelphia District Attorney Larry Krasner reiterated the rest 1159 01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:32,400 Speaker 17: to potentially arrest ICE agents that were sent into assist 1160 01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:35,680 Speaker 17: with these historically long KSA lines. He said, quote, the 1161 01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:39,120 Speaker 17: President cannot pardon you. Does President, seeing Kresner's comments, do 1162 01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:39,960 Speaker 17: you have any response? 1163 01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:42,439 Speaker 14: The President cannot pardon you for what he's talking to 1164 01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:45,080 Speaker 14: the ICE agents who are handing out water bottles and 1165 01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:47,600 Speaker 14: are helping people move through lines at airports. It's a 1166 01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:51,160 Speaker 14: disgraceful comment. The men and women of ICE are great people. 1167 01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:54,200 Speaker 14: I would encourage this lawmaker whose name I don't know 1168 01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:56,800 Speaker 14: and don't care to know, to actually sit down and 1169 01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:58,400 Speaker 14: speak with the ICE agents who. 1170 01:09:58,320 --> 01:09:59,320 Speaker 4: Are a Krasler. 1171 01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:05,719 Speaker 2: We're in work is the DA in Philadelphia and Larry Krausner. 1172 01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:10,960 Speaker 2: She knows the n UH is an outrageous progressive and 1173 01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:15,599 Speaker 2: he's threatening ICE agents. Oh, he's not even shy about it. 1174 01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:19,680 Speaker 2: He's like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna come at you and 1175 01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:22,519 Speaker 2: I'm gonna arrest you, and I'm gonna I'm gonna punch 1176 01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:25,679 Speaker 2: your mom in the mouth and you break the law here, 1177 01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:29,880 Speaker 2: you dirty, dirty Ice agents, and you're gonna you're gonna 1178 01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:33,920 Speaker 2: feel my my wrath, and I'm gonna put you in jail, 1179 01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:34,679 Speaker 2: and I'm gonna. 1180 01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:37,880 Speaker 4: Oh, it's gonna be really really bad too. 1181 01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:41,679 Speaker 2: I mean everything about him, says I didn't date much 1182 01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:47,080 Speaker 2: in high school. First, you commit crimes within the jurisdiction 1183 01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:49,200 Speaker 2: that is the city in County of Philadelphia. 1184 01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:50,640 Speaker 8: I prosecute you. 1185 01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:52,559 Speaker 4: That is how it works. 1186 01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:55,679 Speaker 7: No, I don't take a phone call from the President 1187 01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:56,479 Speaker 7: saying let him go. 1188 01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:59,960 Speaker 8: No, the President cannot pardon you. I'll say it again, 1189 01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:01,880 Speaker 8: the President cannot pardon you. 1190 01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:05,320 Speaker 4: And yes, I will put you in. 1191 01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:08,120 Speaker 2: Ancus and I will put you in a courtroom, and 1192 01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:10,320 Speaker 2: if necessary, I will put you on a jail cell. 1193 01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:13,880 Speaker 4: Philadelphia, the City of Brotherly. 1194 01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:15,760 Speaker 2: Love or something. I'm Tony kass. 1195 01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:26,840 Speaker 1: Lie from vall Hartbiner and the Crossroads of America. It's 1196 01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:30,160 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. The markets really do like it when 1197 01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:31,479 Speaker 1: you protect this trait of formose. 1198 01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:35,080 Speaker 2: Oh, they're never so happy as when you're protecting the 1199 01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:36,719 Speaker 2: straits and protecting the oil. 1200 01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:39,200 Speaker 4: And it's just fantastic. 1201 01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:41,320 Speaker 2: And of course the US is saying there's a peace 1202 01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:45,479 Speaker 2: plan with Iran. Now, if you ask me, I'll tell 1203 01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:48,479 Speaker 2: you I have no idea what the heck anybody is 1204 01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:52,200 Speaker 2: talking about at any time of the day when it 1205 01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:55,000 Speaker 2: comes to the idea of a peace plan, when it 1206 01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:58,879 Speaker 2: comes to the idea that somehow magically we are roaming 1207 01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:00,760 Speaker 2: free over Tehran. 1208 01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:06,200 Speaker 9: At the city Terran as opposed to Iran. We're roaming free. 1209 01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:10,160 Speaker 9: We can do whatever we want. And as you know today, 1210 01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:12,360 Speaker 9: we were going to have the privilege of shooting down 1211 01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:16,599 Speaker 9: a very big electric generation plant, one of the biggest 1212 01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:19,919 Speaker 9: in the world, and one shot to the right location 1213 01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:23,920 Speaker 9: ends the plant that collapses. And we held off based 1214 01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:25,440 Speaker 9: on the fact that we're negotiating. 1215 01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:28,840 Speaker 17: What do you think was the turning point to make 1216 01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:31,080 Speaker 17: you want to pursue a ceasefire. A few days ago, 1217 01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:33,920 Speaker 17: you know, you said you wanted to continue bombing around. 1218 01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:35,880 Speaker 15: Now you want to pursue peace talks. 1219 01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:38,320 Speaker 9: Was there something that they're talking to us? 1220 01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:39,400 Speaker 2: And they're talking sense? 1221 01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:42,680 Speaker 9: And remember it all starts that they cannot have a 1222 01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:46,360 Speaker 9: nuclear weapon. Just you know, I said yesterday, they said, 1223 01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:48,680 Speaker 9: what are the top ten? I said, well, number one, 1224 01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:51,000 Speaker 9: two and three is they can't have a nuclear weapon. 1225 01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:54,880 Speaker 9: And they're not going to have a nuclear weapon. And 1226 01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:58,080 Speaker 9: we're talking about that. I don't want to say in advance, 1227 01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:00,960 Speaker 9: but they've agreed they will never have a nuclear weapon. 1228 01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:04,040 Speaker 2: They've agreed to that. The question, of course is who 1229 01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:06,599 Speaker 2: is agreed to that? Who possibly has agreed to that? 1230 01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:10,800 Speaker 2: But neither here nor there. The markets here, Oh we've 1231 01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:15,000 Speaker 2: got peace, and they're like, who market goes nuts? Tony 1232 01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:19,280 Speaker 2: Katz Tony Katz Today, guys, good to be here, Good 1233 01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:21,960 Speaker 2: to be with you. Find everything I do over at 1234 01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:23,760 Speaker 2: Tony kats dot com. 1235 01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:24,280 Speaker 4: The show. 1236 01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:26,400 Speaker 2: She didn't get up yesterday. I don't know what I 1237 01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:30,639 Speaker 2: did wrong. I apologize. I apologize for that. I'll make 1238 01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:35,360 Speaker 2: up for it today. Snacks for everybody. Tony Katz dot com. 1239 01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:38,439 Speaker 2: I don't know who this peace deal is with. I'm 1240 01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:41,720 Speaker 2: not opposed. I will admit that I am opposed to 1241 01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:44,639 Speaker 2: the idea that there's gonna be some kind of peace 1242 01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:50,360 Speaker 2: deal when the regime is still in place, if any 1243 01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:52,599 Speaker 2: part of the regime is still in place, if we're 1244 01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:58,200 Speaker 2: dealing with this. Iranian Parliament speaker Mohammed Bagger got it 1245 01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:03,680 Speaker 2: buff he's a hardliner. Oh, but he's a pragmatic hardliner. 1246 01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:04,640 Speaker 4: Stop it. 1247 01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:10,880 Speaker 2: Does he want dead Jews, dead Israel, call America the 1248 01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:14,240 Speaker 2: Great Satan and want to end Western civilization? Yes? Or no? 1249 01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:15,120 Speaker 4: As he waits for. 1250 01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:19,920 Speaker 2: The twelfth Emam, Because if so, it's just a guy 1251 01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:22,840 Speaker 2: with a different hat. That's it. 1252 01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:26,720 Speaker 4: And I don't want us to lie to ourselves. 1253 01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:32,280 Speaker 2: I don't want to pretend that somehow we've done something here. 1254 01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:35,760 Speaker 2: We may have delayed something here, and there is a 1255 01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:39,439 Speaker 2: pragmatism to that, but we haven't done something if we 1256 01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:42,320 Speaker 2: haven't ended the regime and their support of terrorism and 1257 01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:46,600 Speaker 2: their pursuit of nuclear anything. And then President Trump yesterday, 1258 01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:52,840 Speaker 2: this was an odd moment in the Oval where he's 1259 01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:56,720 Speaker 2: discussing that they received a big present from the Iranians. 1260 01:14:58,520 --> 01:14:59,439 Speaker 2: They're gonna make a doom. 1261 01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:03,240 Speaker 9: They did something yesterday that was amazing. Actually, they gave 1262 01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:07,519 Speaker 9: us a present and the president arrived today and it 1263 01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:11,720 Speaker 9: was a very big present, worth a tremendous amount of money. 1264 01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:14,200 Speaker 2: And I'm not going to tell you what that president is. 1265 01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:16,479 Speaker 2: That meant one thing to me, would deal with the 1266 01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:17,040 Speaker 2: right people. 1267 01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:23,200 Speaker 4: No, it wasn't nuclear related. It was oil and gas related. Well, 1268 01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:25,040 Speaker 4: who doesn't like oil and gas? 1269 01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:27,960 Speaker 2: And since this whole conversation is about oil and gas, 1270 01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:30,760 Speaker 2: let me bring it back to the conversation about the 1271 01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:34,160 Speaker 2: Straight of Hormuz. You can't trust the Iranians at all. 1272 01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:35,960 Speaker 2: I love that the Wall Street Journal had a headline 1273 01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:38,120 Speaker 2: and lots of lots of headlines today about how the 1274 01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:41,880 Speaker 2: Iranians are playing hardball. You'll note that the Iranians always 1275 01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:46,720 Speaker 2: play hardball, right, that's how they negotiate. But now they've 1276 01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:48,719 Speaker 2: been punched in the face and they're still playing hardball. 1277 01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:50,000 Speaker 2: I think you got to keep punching them in the 1278 01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:54,000 Speaker 2: face until they stop. This is about the Straight of Hormuz, 1279 01:15:54,880 --> 01:16:01,599 Speaker 2: and this story right here about how the British will 1280 01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:07,719 Speaker 2: be in the Strait. The British are sending the Royal 1281 01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:12,360 Speaker 2: Navy to lead a coalition to reopen the Strait of Hormuz. Now, 1282 01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:17,599 Speaker 2: what exactly did we talk about? Just I think maybe 1283 01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:20,680 Speaker 2: it was a week ago. We discussed the fact that 1284 01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:23,080 Speaker 2: no one should be surprised by any stretch of the 1285 01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:27,960 Speaker 2: imagination that the British weren't a part of or jumping 1286 01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:30,479 Speaker 2: out or chomping at the bit jumping into being a 1287 01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:34,200 Speaker 2: part of this with Iran. Nobody wants to be seen 1288 01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:36,559 Speaker 2: as the Johnny come lately. No one wants to be 1289 01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:40,320 Speaker 2: seen as the afterthought. When you're talking about leadership on 1290 01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:43,360 Speaker 2: the world stage and guiding your military is of course 1291 01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:45,599 Speaker 2: how you look strong. And if you're a world leader, 1292 01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:49,080 Speaker 2: a hawk, what an opportunity that is. Let's not kid ourselves, 1293 01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:54,719 Speaker 2: let's not pretend. And when you're dealing with the United 1294 01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:58,760 Speaker 2: States in a personality like Trump, these nations actually get 1295 01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:04,040 Speaker 2: a benefit from not succumbing to Trump, not coalescing around him, 1296 01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:08,000 Speaker 2: but rather being tough against him. All politics are local, 1297 01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:11,519 Speaker 2: whether you agree or disagree, leave that to the side. 1298 01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:14,679 Speaker 2: Understand how they view it. 1299 01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:15,400 Speaker 4: It's helpful. 1300 01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:18,640 Speaker 2: It's not that Okay, here's how they view it, but 1301 01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:20,400 Speaker 2: maybe here's how they're wrong. In the long run, right, 1302 01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:24,840 Speaker 2: we can debate those out. Understand that it's not all 1303 01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:28,280 Speaker 2: based on what we see. That's what influencers say. But 1304 01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:33,240 Speaker 2: influencers are stupid. Rational people take a look at the 1305 01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:36,680 Speaker 2: conversation and then of course come to a conclusion, but 1306 01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:39,360 Speaker 2: at least understand what's happening around them so they can 1307 01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:44,240 Speaker 2: make that conclusion. These leaders are better off saying, well, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. 1308 01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:46,240 Speaker 4: You were not going to be dragged. 1309 01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:48,559 Speaker 2: Into this by you, and we're not here to just 1310 01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:53,360 Speaker 2: clean up your mess. And but now here comes Britain, 1311 01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:56,759 Speaker 2: because remember Britain wouldn't send the aircraft carrier, and then they. 1312 01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:58,559 Speaker 4: Offered it up later and Trump said, well, I don't 1313 01:17:58,560 --> 01:17:59,639 Speaker 4: need your aircraft carrier. 1314 01:17:59,680 --> 01:17:59,880 Speaker 7: Now. 1315 01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:07,000 Speaker 2: There was a report about Iran firing missiles at the 1316 01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:12,120 Speaker 2: USS Abraham Lincoln. I think we'll find out more about 1317 01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:17,679 Speaker 2: this to the extent that we do in the days ahead. 1318 01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:22,280 Speaker 2: It was Naval today that had the story, as I 1319 01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:24,400 Speaker 2: saw it, that Iran fired one hundred and one missiles 1320 01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:25,799 Speaker 2: at the USS Abraham Lincoln. 1321 01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:29,280 Speaker 4: Right, we've got a piece deal, but they're still firing missiles. 1322 01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:31,160 Speaker 4: They do what they do. 1323 01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:35,639 Speaker 2: Now, we should also know everything is about telling a story. 1324 01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:40,479 Speaker 2: Firing missiles is different than hitting I know, I know 1325 01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:41,160 Speaker 2: what you're going. 1326 01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:42,000 Speaker 4: To say, Do I care? 1327 01:18:42,520 --> 01:18:45,080 Speaker 2: No, I'm with you on that, But understand how these 1328 01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:48,839 Speaker 2: things project people trying to say face all sorts of things. 1329 01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:52,080 Speaker 2: Who knows if they even have the capability of guiding 1330 01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:55,400 Speaker 2: these missiles at this moment, even though they certainly have 1331 01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:58,120 Speaker 2: missiles that can reach targets twenty five hundred miles away 1332 01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:02,040 Speaker 2: like Europe. That got the interest of the United Kingdom, 1333 01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:04,120 Speaker 2: and maybe that's what made them say, Hey, you know 1334 01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:12,280 Speaker 2: what we'll do. We'll lead the mission to reopen the Strait. Now, 1335 01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:15,000 Speaker 2: Keir Starmer, because there was a conversation between President Trump 1336 01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:17,640 Speaker 2: and Keir Starmer yesterday, what does kirre Starmer get to do? 1337 01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:19,040 Speaker 2: You knew it the minute I brought it up, and 1338 01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:22,360 Speaker 2: you're like, oh, okay, I can see that politically now 1339 01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:26,040 Speaker 2: he's leading something. Now, he's taking a position of strength 1340 01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:31,040 Speaker 2: in order to ensure that the world energy supply continues safely. 1341 01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:34,280 Speaker 2: He's not doing it for the United States. He's doing 1342 01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:41,599 Speaker 2: it for the world. Of course, that's different, And of 1343 01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:44,000 Speaker 2: course you would be right to say that's kind of 1344 01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:45,439 Speaker 2: insulting to the US, isn't it. 1345 01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:48,120 Speaker 4: Sure? But does Trump get out of it? 1346 01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:50,280 Speaker 2: What he needs out of it, which is an open, 1347 01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:56,120 Speaker 2: straight up our Mouz absolutely And if Iran should get 1348 01:19:56,160 --> 01:20:03,360 Speaker 2: a little upity with some warships of the British, because 1349 01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:09,040 Speaker 2: the British absolutely have some warships, well then I guess 1350 01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:12,040 Speaker 2: the UK is going to be a little bit involved here. 1351 01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:14,000 Speaker 2: We are trying to do this thing for the world, 1352 01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:16,639 Speaker 2: and you attack one of our ships, Well, the world's 1353 01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:18,840 Speaker 2: not going to stand for that. And Great Britain has 1354 01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:21,720 Speaker 2: always led the world until America kicked our ass in 1355 01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:27,720 Speaker 2: seventeen seventy six. But until then we totally led the world. 1356 01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:32,880 Speaker 2: All politics are local. Once you start taking a look 1357 01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:36,040 Speaker 2: at these things in that wide swath, you realize how 1358 01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:40,759 Speaker 2: this all comes together, and you can make the argument 1359 01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:44,599 Speaker 2: it's kind of insulting that they wouldn't work with us 1360 01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:49,439 Speaker 2: to take out the Iranian threat. Their response is, you 1361 01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:51,280 Speaker 2: didn't come to us to work with us to work 1362 01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:53,640 Speaker 2: on the Iranian threat, so we're not going to be 1363 01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:56,200 Speaker 2: follow the leader. But now they get to be a leader, 1364 01:20:56,920 --> 01:21:00,160 Speaker 2: and after all, that's what they want because they're they're 1365 01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:01,360 Speaker 2: saving face. 1366 01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:02,120 Speaker 4: Two. 1367 01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:06,599 Speaker 2: But the move helps the United States, and the move 1368 01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:11,040 Speaker 2: helps the oil markets. The move makes everybody feel super 1369 01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:17,200 Speaker 2: super duper good. Now, I will admit that from remember, 1370 01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:19,519 Speaker 2: these things will change, and they're changing all the time. 1371 01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:23,559 Speaker 2: West Texas crude this morning was like eighty eight dollars 1372 01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:26,080 Speaker 2: a barrel, and Brent crude was one hundred dollars a barrel. 1373 01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:28,479 Speaker 2: And there was like this eleven dollars. It was like 1374 01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:30,639 Speaker 2: eighty eight fifty or something like that on the Brent. 1375 01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:33,719 Speaker 2: So Brent, I'm sorry, West Texas was eighty eight dollars 1376 01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:36,760 Speaker 2: and fifty cents or so. West Texas crude known as 1377 01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:41,360 Speaker 2: the WTI West Texas intermediate that comes out of the ground. 1378 01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:44,559 Speaker 2: Brent crude comes out of the oceans. That's the way 1379 01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:46,840 Speaker 2: I define it. Somebody who knows more about oil could 1380 01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:48,439 Speaker 2: define it a little bit better than me, but that's 1381 01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:50,240 Speaker 2: the way I break it down to these two categories. 1382 01:21:51,439 --> 01:21:54,680 Speaker 2: The spread, as I've been covering the stuff on my 1383 01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:56,680 Speaker 2: I talk about this stuff on my morning show every day. 1384 01:21:57,880 --> 01:22:01,639 Speaker 2: The spread's usually like three to five bucks. West Texas 1385 01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:03,840 Speaker 2: is lower than Brent crude. The difference is three to 1386 01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:07,880 Speaker 2: five dollars usually that's what it is. Now with this 1387 01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:09,559 Speaker 2: the spread has been higher, and there's been a while 1388 01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:12,200 Speaker 2: where West Texas was above Brent and now the spread 1389 01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:15,760 Speaker 2: is about eleven dollars a barrel brent crued out of 1390 01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:20,200 Speaker 2: the oceans, more expensive than West Texas crued. I I 1391 01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:22,479 Speaker 2: can't tell you specifically what that means. I'm trying to 1392 01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:24,040 Speaker 2: get an answer to that. And if you guys know, 1393 01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:26,880 Speaker 2: if somebody knows who knows this business, Tony at tonycats 1394 01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:29,880 Speaker 2: dot com, send me an email. I'd love to get 1395 01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:33,599 Speaker 2: you your take on that, on that what that means, 1396 01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:37,479 Speaker 2: and if there's something specific there or if it's just no, 1397 01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:40,080 Speaker 2: it's just because these things are traveling near the oceans, 1398 01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:42,240 Speaker 2: it's just taking a little bit longer, right, we actually 1399 01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:43,840 Speaker 2: categorize it in a different way, et cetera. 1400 01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:46,280 Speaker 4: Right, there could be a bunch of reasons. 1401 01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:51,559 Speaker 2: But the West Texas under one hundred dollars a barrel 1402 01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:54,040 Speaker 2: or back into the eighties has got to make people 1403 01:22:54,120 --> 01:22:57,360 Speaker 2: feel good. And the markets today, you. 1404 01:22:57,320 --> 01:23:00,280 Speaker 4: Know, had the pre Mark it. 1405 01:23:01,840 --> 01:23:06,680 Speaker 2: At like a plus four hundred and the Nasdaq was 1406 01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:11,920 Speaker 2: plus two fifty. They're happy about it. The Dow is like, 1407 01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:16,920 Speaker 2: finally we're getting somewhere, Which brings us to another part 1408 01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:22,040 Speaker 2: of all this that's worthy of note, which is the outrageous, 1409 01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:33,679 Speaker 2: childlike nervous response of the Democrat Party, which looks at everything. 1410 01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:35,320 Speaker 4: And says, this is terrible, and this. 1411 01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:38,439 Speaker 2: Is awful and what a mess, and look at the 1412 01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:42,760 Speaker 2: disaster and look what Trump did and sky high prices? 1413 01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:46,440 Speaker 4: Is that true of tomorrow? 1414 01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:52,000 Speaker 2: The objective being all politics, being local is to take 1415 01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:56,200 Speaker 2: whatever the calamity is of the moment and make it 1416 01:23:56,280 --> 01:24:02,160 Speaker 2: the most important calamity. Sometimes times we fall for that. 1417 01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:10,920 Speaker 2: Because we're human, and because these media assets work in 1418 01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:16,680 Speaker 2: such a way to try and take one subject and 1419 01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:21,439 Speaker 2: make it the only subject and it's all you hear, 1420 01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:26,120 Speaker 2: we it can sometimes fall for it. So we're just 1421 01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:28,880 Speaker 2: as human as anybody else. So what's important is that 1422 01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:33,080 Speaker 2: we take a step back. Oil prices have been high, 1423 01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:35,759 Speaker 2: and gas prices are a bucket gallon higher than they were, 1424 01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:39,080 Speaker 2: and in my state of Indiana they're four dollars. It's 1425 01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:43,240 Speaker 2: four dollars a gallon now and four dollars gallon gas sucks, 1426 01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:49,120 Speaker 2: and in other places it's more. Is that going to 1427 01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:53,759 Speaker 2: be the case next week? The Democrat Party on Twitter 1428 01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:58,000 Speaker 2: had the audacity to talk about high gas prices and 1429 01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:03,200 Speaker 2: never once talking about Joe Biden's high gas prices. With 1430 01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:08,040 Speaker 2: Donald Trump, we could argue it is a temporary policy, 1431 01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:11,000 Speaker 2: if only because the War Powers Act would require this 1432 01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:14,439 Speaker 2: all to be done in sixty days. If he's utilizing 1433 01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:17,439 Speaker 2: the Warpowers Act to engage this action, he could take 1434 01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:20,559 Speaker 2: the action. He could has to then notify Congressman forty 1435 01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:23,000 Speaker 2: eight hours, which he did. He has sixty days to 1436 01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:25,760 Speaker 2: conclude the action. He can request an extra thirty days 1437 01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:29,120 Speaker 2: to wind down the removal of the military for their 1438 01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:33,759 Speaker 2: safety and security. That's going to happen. That's going to happen, 1439 01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:40,320 Speaker 2: and then this gets wound down if the Strait of 1440 01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:43,200 Speaker 2: Hormuz is opened again, if there is a level of 1441 01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:46,920 Speaker 2: deal made, even if I disagree with it, because it 1442 01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:51,679 Speaker 2: doesn't involve the removal of the regime, and the West 1443 01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:53,360 Speaker 2: Texas crude, which is. 1444 01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:56,000 Speaker 4: Now at eighty eight drops down to seventy. 1445 01:25:55,640 --> 01:25:57,680 Speaker 2: One, not into the mid sixties where it was when 1446 01:25:57,720 --> 01:26:00,960 Speaker 2: this started, but to seventy one dollars. You might be 1447 01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:04,439 Speaker 2: paying an extra nickel. I might be paying an extra nickele. 1448 01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:05,960 Speaker 2: It's not that I want to pay an extra nickel. 1449 01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:11,680 Speaker 2: I am saying it isn't for forever. It isn't because 1450 01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:15,360 Speaker 2: Joe Biden in that administration engage policies that said, we 1451 01:26:15,439 --> 01:26:17,880 Speaker 2: don't care if you're paying too much for gas. It 1452 01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:20,960 Speaker 2: doesn't matter for us because, as Scott Jennings pointed out 1453 01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:24,080 Speaker 2: very well on CNN the other day, Democrats love high 1454 01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:27,880 Speaker 2: gas prices because it helps people move to the wind 1455 01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:28,639 Speaker 2: and to the solar. 1456 01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:31,120 Speaker 4: And Democrats are like, oh, that's not true. 1457 01:26:31,439 --> 01:26:36,879 Speaker 2: Barack Obama stated in the run for president, he stated 1458 01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:44,439 Speaker 2: the words that we have to change how people view 1459 01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:45,759 Speaker 2: these things. 1460 01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:47,400 Speaker 4: We have to. 1461 01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:57,080 Speaker 2: Artificially increase the price of gas, because if we don't, 1462 01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:01,799 Speaker 2: no one's going to use use these other fuel sources. 1463 01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:07,120 Speaker 2: So we have to change things around. And therefore, therefore 1464 01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:11,920 Speaker 2: the price of oil, the price of gas will necessarily skyrocket. 1465 01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:15,519 Speaker 2: Don't believe me, Okay, believe him. 1466 01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:18,320 Speaker 10: You know, and and climate change is a great example. 1467 01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:20,960 Speaker 10: You know, when I was asked earlier about. 1468 01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:30,880 Speaker 18: The issue of coal. You know, under my plan of 1469 01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:31,960 Speaker 18: a cap and trade. 1470 01:27:31,720 --> 01:27:39,640 Speaker 10: System, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket, even regardless of what 1471 01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:42,799 Speaker 10: I say about whether coal is good or bad, because 1472 01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:48,240 Speaker 10: I'm capping greenhouse gases, coal power plants, you know, natural gas, 1473 01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:51,040 Speaker 10: you name, whatever the plants were, whatever the industry was, 1474 01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:56,519 Speaker 10: they would have to retrofit their operations that will cost money, 1475 01:27:56,520 --> 01:27:58,280 Speaker 10: they will pass that money onto consumers. 1476 01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:01,720 Speaker 2: Case rested, they were fine with and I've always been 1477 01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:05,920 Speaker 2: fine with your energy costs going up so they could 1478 01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:11,320 Speaker 2: push their green agenda. This is not new. Don't get 1479 01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:13,360 Speaker 2: wrapped up in the idea that this is for forever. 1480 01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:19,400 Speaker 2: That's influencer progressive bull crap talk. We have to ask 1481 01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:23,760 Speaker 2: ourselves what is happening. What is the actual tangible thing. 1482 01:28:25,439 --> 01:28:27,719 Speaker 2: If the British get to the strait of horm moves 1483 01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:30,880 Speaker 2: and oil starts to flow and gas prices come down, 1484 01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:35,960 Speaker 2: what are these lefties screaming about? And you realize what 1485 01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:39,040 Speaker 2: they're screaming about is we don't care how we demoralize 1486 01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:42,080 Speaker 2: US troops or the American people. We don't care how 1487 01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:46,960 Speaker 2: much we actually help the bowie. The morale of the 1488 01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:50,479 Speaker 2: Iranian regime lowlifes. As long as Trump loses, and as 1489 01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:52,799 Speaker 2: long as Democrats get power, they'll say anything. 1490 01:28:54,240 --> 01:28:54,400 Speaker 10: You know. 1491 01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:56,800 Speaker 4: I'm right, I'm Tony Katz. 1492 01:28:56,840 --> 01:29:00,120 Speaker 2: This is Tony Katz Today, Speaker Mike Johnson delivering a 1493 01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:04,000 Speaker 2: bit of a SmackDown today Tony Katz, Tony Katz Today, guys, 1494 01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:05,040 Speaker 2: thanks for being here. 1495 01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:07,559 Speaker 4: Talk to me about the murder of Sheridan Gorman. 1496 01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:12,120 Speaker 2: She was killed in Chicago by an illegal Venezuelan immigrants, 1497 01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:15,040 Speaker 2: and Mayor Johnson and some aldermen are like, well, it's 1498 01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:17,080 Speaker 2: wrong place, wrong time. Well you know, what are you 1499 01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:20,240 Speaker 2: gonna do? Oh? How dare you speak poorly of immigrants? 1500 01:29:20,280 --> 01:29:23,040 Speaker 2: We're talking about illegal immigrants. We're talking about a murderer here. 1501 01:29:23,680 --> 01:29:25,200 Speaker 2: And Speaker Johnson. 1502 01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:27,599 Speaker 19: And we know that Medina Medina entered the United States 1503 01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:31,200 Speaker 19: illegally on May ninth, twenty twenty three. That's under the 1504 01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:33,719 Speaker 19: Biden administration with their wide open borders policy. 1505 01:29:34,280 --> 01:29:35,719 Speaker 5: We also know he was caught by. 1506 01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:38,400 Speaker 19: Border patrol and let into the country, released into the 1507 01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:42,200 Speaker 19: country like millions of others, and thanks to the Democrats' 1508 01:29:42,200 --> 01:29:47,200 Speaker 19: open border policy, those are indisputable facts. But for that 1509 01:29:47,439 --> 01:29:51,120 Speaker 19: crazy set of policies, this young lady would still be alive. 1510 01:29:52,360 --> 01:29:55,000 Speaker 19: Weeks later, Medina was arrested in a major American city 1511 01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:58,120 Speaker 19: after they let him in again, only to be released 1512 01:29:58,160 --> 01:30:01,840 Speaker 19: onto the streets of Chicago. Why because of crazy Democrat 1513 01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:06,440 Speaker 19: policies he would later take the life of Sheridan Gorman. 1514 01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:09,200 Speaker 19: The irony of all this is that the system did 1515 01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:13,160 Speaker 19: not fail share it and that worked exactly as the 1516 01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:16,519 Speaker 19: Democrats intended. You had Democrats in charge of the White 1517 01:30:16,520 --> 01:30:19,479 Speaker 19: House and in charge in the City of Chicago, open 1518 01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:24,799 Speaker 19: borders policies, sanctuary cities policies. They coddled the criminal, illegal alien, 1519 01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:27,719 Speaker 19: they empowered, They allowed this to happen, and that's why 1520 01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:29,320 Speaker 19: we're so angry about it. 1521 01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:32,600 Speaker 2: I very much appreciate this kind of talk. They did this, 1522 01:30:33,479 --> 01:30:37,000 Speaker 2: their policies did this, and it is the perfect line. 1523 01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:39,639 Speaker 2: It's actually a takeoff of a line Donald Trump used 1524 01:30:39,680 --> 01:30:41,200 Speaker 2: him from the UN in his first term, which I 1525 01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:44,360 Speaker 2: think is his best speech ever in Venezuela. It's not 1526 01:30:44,479 --> 01:30:48,519 Speaker 2: that socialism has been implemented improperly, it's that it was 1527 01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:52,880 Speaker 2: implemented faithfully. That's why it's a disaster, and that's why 1528 01:30:52,920 --> 01:30:54,720 Speaker 2: democratic policies are disasters. 1529 01:30:55,080 --> 01:30:58,519 Speaker 4: Remember that come the midterms. I'm Tony Katz. This is 1530 01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:00,120 Speaker 4: Tony Katz Today. 1531 01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:05,920 Speaker 2: It's more than probable, more than possible. It's probable that 1532 01:31:05,960 --> 01:31:09,640 Speaker 2: you're not familiar with the name Kara Swisher, which is 1533 01:31:09,720 --> 01:31:13,120 Speaker 2: okay because you're not somebody reading the New York Times 1534 01:31:13,280 --> 01:31:18,280 Speaker 2: or watching CNN. Because mostly you love yourself. Tony Katz, 1535 01:31:18,720 --> 01:31:21,400 Speaker 2: Tony Katz today, Good to be here, good to be with. 1536 01:31:21,439 --> 01:31:24,240 Speaker 2: You find everything I do over at Tony Katz dot com. 1537 01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:30,719 Speaker 2: She is a tech reporter. That's how she made her bones. 1538 01:31:31,439 --> 01:31:36,840 Speaker 2: And then she created a recode with Walt Mosberg, who's 1539 01:31:37,080 --> 01:31:39,519 Speaker 2: a famous name in that world. And then she did 1540 01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:41,320 Speaker 2: opinion for the New York Times, and then she was 1541 01:31:41,400 --> 01:31:46,240 Speaker 2: back over it at Vox, and she now has a 1542 01:31:46,360 --> 01:31:49,519 Speaker 2: show on CNN. I don't know how she got a 1543 01:31:49,560 --> 01:31:53,480 Speaker 2: show on CNN. I'm not in charge of CNN's programming. 1544 01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:55,960 Speaker 2: If I was in charge of CNN's programming, I would 1545 01:31:56,000 --> 01:31:58,320 Speaker 2: have a show on CNN and they would have ratings. 1546 01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:03,519 Speaker 2: I had said when when Jim Acosta, in the most 1547 01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:08,360 Speaker 2: stunning and pseudo intellectual move ever, he couldn't come to 1548 01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:11,680 Speaker 2: some deal with CNN because they didn't want him to 1549 01:32:11,720 --> 01:32:14,080 Speaker 2: have the show that he had. They wanted to move 1550 01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:17,240 Speaker 2: him to midnight, midnight to two am, and he was 1551 01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:20,439 Speaker 2: making like seven hundred and fifty grand. Now you could argue, hey, 1552 01:32:20,479 --> 01:32:23,000 Speaker 2: in the TV world, that's not much, but in the 1553 01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:25,720 Speaker 2: jem Acosta world, that's more than he deserved. 1554 01:32:26,479 --> 01:32:27,960 Speaker 4: And he was like, I'm not going to do that. 1555 01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:32,920 Speaker 4: I'm going to go about starting my own podcast. Okay 1556 01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:36,840 Speaker 4: man go start your own podcast. I'm not here to. 1557 01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:44,080 Speaker 2: Stop you, but for anybody thinking of starting their own podcast, you. 1558 01:32:44,040 --> 01:32:45,200 Speaker 4: Start the podcast. 1559 01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:51,320 Speaker 2: If you're on traditional media, you do not start the podcast. 1560 01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:54,280 Speaker 4: Afterwards. 1561 01:32:54,880 --> 01:32:58,360 Speaker 2: You started before you start it while you have the 1562 01:32:58,400 --> 01:33:01,920 Speaker 2: other thing, so if you lose the thing, you still 1563 01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:05,800 Speaker 2: have somewhere to go. Now, Jim Acosta has more subscribers 1564 01:33:05,800 --> 01:33:07,680 Speaker 2: than I do. He has two hundred and forty eight 1565 01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:13,120 Speaker 2: thousand subscribers on YouTube. That to me is an unbelievable number. 1566 01:33:15,160 --> 01:33:18,160 Speaker 2: His videos get six thousand views, five thousand views. There's 1567 01:33:18,200 --> 01:33:20,880 Speaker 2: one that got one hundred and fifteen thousand views, so 1568 01:33:20,960 --> 01:33:24,519 Speaker 2: he can get some numbers. I cannot tell you if 1569 01:33:24,560 --> 01:33:29,120 Speaker 2: he's making any money. I'm willing to bet that it's 1570 01:33:29,120 --> 01:33:31,200 Speaker 2: not the seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars. 1571 01:33:32,720 --> 01:33:34,200 Speaker 4: I'm willing to bet that. 1572 01:33:34,400 --> 01:33:38,240 Speaker 2: While indeed, I mean he's doing award winning interviews with 1573 01:33:38,280 --> 01:33:45,200 Speaker 2: Steve Schmidt. My point proven this is all just leftist insanity. 1574 01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:48,400 Speaker 2: And if you want to hear about leftist insanity, did 1575 01:33:48,439 --> 01:33:53,040 Speaker 2: you hear this from Jennifer Welch again, who does a 1576 01:33:53,240 --> 01:33:59,040 Speaker 2: podcast talking about jd Vance and his wife Una and 1577 01:33:59,120 --> 01:33:59,759 Speaker 2: their kids. 1578 01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:01,080 Speaker 4: Listen to this. 1579 01:34:01,400 --> 01:34:04,479 Speaker 11: He is married to a woman of Indian descent. He 1580 01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:08,000 Speaker 11: has mixed race children. So to all of the MAGA 1581 01:34:08,040 --> 01:34:10,880 Speaker 11: voters out there, if this man will not defend his 1582 01:34:10,960 --> 01:34:14,960 Speaker 11: wife and will not defend his kids, do you think 1583 01:34:15,200 --> 01:34:18,120 Speaker 11: he gives a crap about you or anything to do 1584 01:34:18,240 --> 01:34:18,479 Speaker 11: with you. 1585 01:34:19,320 --> 01:34:23,360 Speaker 2: Defend his kids from? What? What are you possibly referring to? 1586 01:34:23,400 --> 01:34:25,960 Speaker 2: Her name is Jennifer Welch. She's like this new face 1587 01:34:26,040 --> 01:34:30,800 Speaker 2: the Democratic Party. She is beyond vile. She is the 1588 01:34:30,920 --> 01:34:36,640 Speaker 2: poster child of being a Karen. Whatever affluent suburb is 1589 01:34:36,920 --> 01:34:40,280 Speaker 2: near where you live, that's where she lives. And guaranteed 1590 01:34:40,640 --> 01:34:44,880 Speaker 2: she's on the HOA board. Why you bring up his kids? 1591 01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:46,639 Speaker 2: What do you mean he doesn't care about his kids? 1592 01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:50,719 Speaker 2: What possibly you talking about? You don't think he knows 1593 01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:53,880 Speaker 2: his wife is Indian? He married the woman, and I'm 1594 01:34:53,920 --> 01:34:56,160 Speaker 2: pretty sure he may have seen her in various stages 1595 01:34:56,200 --> 01:34:59,360 Speaker 2: of undress, what with having the children and all. You 1596 01:34:59,400 --> 01:35:02,640 Speaker 2: don't think he noticed? What argument is this? 1597 01:35:03,120 --> 01:35:04,639 Speaker 4: What insanity is this? 1598 01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:07,559 Speaker 2: But this on the political left, as Chris Hayes is 1599 01:35:07,800 --> 01:35:10,840 Speaker 2: in interviewing her, I guess this passes as some kind 1600 01:35:10,840 --> 01:35:11,800 Speaker 2: of rational thought. 1601 01:35:12,840 --> 01:35:16,960 Speaker 4: Jim Acosta was never a journalist. Jim Acosta. 1602 01:35:17,800 --> 01:35:20,360 Speaker 2: Was a leftist who was on CNN and his job 1603 01:35:20,520 --> 01:35:24,720 Speaker 2: was to attack President Trump, not because Jim Acosta is right, 1604 01:35:24,920 --> 01:35:27,840 Speaker 2: but because attacking the president would keep you on the air. 1605 01:35:28,240 --> 01:35:29,920 Speaker 2: And he got offered midnight to two and he's like, 1606 01:35:29,960 --> 01:35:32,000 Speaker 2: I'm not going to do that, and I said at 1607 01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:35,040 Speaker 2: the time, I'll take that show right now. I will 1608 01:35:35,080 --> 01:35:38,480 Speaker 2: take midnight to two. I do a morning show in Indianapolis. 1609 01:35:38,560 --> 01:35:41,320 Speaker 2: I got this show right here, I've got eat, drink, smoke. 1610 01:35:41,680 --> 01:35:45,400 Speaker 2: I will take that show right now, midnight to two am. 1611 01:35:45,680 --> 01:35:47,479 Speaker 2: Pay me half of. 1612 01:35:47,439 --> 01:35:50,120 Speaker 4: The seven to fifty, all right, a little more than half. 1613 01:35:50,120 --> 01:35:51,840 Speaker 2: Well, just round it up to four hundred, and I 1614 01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:55,240 Speaker 2: will have better ratings than Jim Acosta ever had in 1615 01:35:55,320 --> 01:35:59,360 Speaker 2: six months at midnight to two now that's eastern of course, 1616 01:35:59,360 --> 01:36:01,960 Speaker 2: that's nine to on the West coast. I will have 1617 01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:04,960 Speaker 2: better ratings. It'll be more entertaining show. You will love it. 1618 01:36:06,120 --> 01:36:08,200 Speaker 2: And then you'll pay me what you paid him. You 1619 01:36:08,200 --> 01:36:09,759 Speaker 2: know what, You'll pay me a little bit more because 1620 01:36:09,800 --> 01:36:14,439 Speaker 2: I exceeded the expectation. He wasn't willing to take that deal. 1621 01:36:15,080 --> 01:36:18,760 Speaker 2: Crazy use the platform, then build your other platform. That's 1622 01:36:18,800 --> 01:36:23,080 Speaker 2: the business. Boo boo, that's how it works. By the way, 1623 01:36:23,120 --> 01:36:26,639 Speaker 2: follow me on YouTube, Tony Katzy, sure to subscribe. 1624 01:36:26,800 --> 01:36:29,680 Speaker 4: Jim Acosta two hundred and forty eight thousand subscribers. 1625 01:36:30,160 --> 01:36:32,639 Speaker 2: That is a lot of people living in their mom's 1626 01:36:32,720 --> 01:36:39,679 Speaker 2: basement and angry liberal white women. Kara Swisher, She's got 1627 01:36:39,680 --> 01:36:47,800 Speaker 2: a show coming to CNN. Kara Swisher wants to live forever. Well, 1628 01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:51,920 Speaker 2: so I guess it's about tech, and it's about longevity 1629 01:36:52,040 --> 01:36:55,639 Speaker 2: and how people will will survive and are trying to survive, 1630 01:36:55,680 --> 01:36:56,160 Speaker 2: and that's. 1631 01:36:55,960 --> 01:36:56,840 Speaker 4: What the show is about. 1632 01:36:57,800 --> 01:37:02,840 Speaker 2: Except now she's come out to say that with the 1633 01:37:02,920 --> 01:37:08,799 Speaker 2: new purchase of CNN by Paramount sky Dance, because Paramount 1634 01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:16,240 Speaker 2: skuy Dance, which is owned by Ellison, is purchasing Warner 1635 01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:21,360 Speaker 2: Warner owns CNN. Ellison, Larry Allison, of course, Oracle David 1636 01:37:21,360 --> 01:37:25,360 Speaker 2: Ellison is the Sun. They purchased Paramount, which is of 1637 01:37:25,360 --> 01:37:27,840 Speaker 2: course CBS. They put in Barry Weiss as the editor 1638 01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:31,160 Speaker 2: in chief, and layoffs started to happen. They just ended 1639 01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:34,120 Speaker 2: the whole radio world of CBS. CBS radio was around 1640 01:37:34,120 --> 01:37:36,719 Speaker 2: for almost one hundred years. It is kind of nutty 1641 01:37:37,320 --> 01:37:40,160 Speaker 2: that it took place, but it's also the way things 1642 01:37:40,200 --> 01:37:44,000 Speaker 2: go and people quit and then they were laid off. 1643 01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:45,519 Speaker 4: And it's funny. 1644 01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:48,320 Speaker 2: One of the guys who was laid off said, hey, 1645 01:37:48,360 --> 01:37:51,839 Speaker 2: I got a new job. It's the most liberal outfit possible. 1646 01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:54,360 Speaker 2: It's called Midas Touch and their whole job is to 1647 01:37:54,360 --> 01:37:56,799 Speaker 2: be anti Trump. That's the whole that's their whole purpose. 1648 01:37:57,720 --> 01:38:00,639 Speaker 2: That's where he got a job. So really no change 1649 01:38:00,640 --> 01:38:05,160 Speaker 2: for him because of this purchase, and because of people 1650 01:38:05,200 --> 01:38:09,080 Speaker 2: hating Barry Weiss, who is not a conservative, but she 1651 01:38:09,160 --> 01:38:11,360 Speaker 2: believes in free speech and she actually wants to build 1652 01:38:11,400 --> 01:38:17,360 Speaker 2: a newsroom. Kara Swisher is now saying that when this 1653 01:38:17,479 --> 01:38:19,640 Speaker 2: takeover takes place. 1654 01:38:20,080 --> 01:38:21,320 Speaker 4: She's going to leave. 1655 01:38:22,600 --> 01:38:27,920 Speaker 2: The moment Paramount's guidance completes the takeover of Warner Brothers, She's. 1656 01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:30,240 Speaker 4: She's leaving. 1657 01:38:31,720 --> 01:38:34,639 Speaker 2: You have no idea what's going to happen. You're going 1658 01:38:34,680 --> 01:38:36,760 Speaker 2: to quit before they have a chance to fire you. 1659 01:38:36,880 --> 01:38:39,879 Speaker 2: That's clearly the way to take this right. That's clearly 1660 01:38:39,920 --> 01:38:43,400 Speaker 2: what it is that Switcher's saying here. She knows she's 1661 01:38:43,479 --> 01:38:47,040 Speaker 2: going to be fired because she knows that everything that 1662 01:38:47,080 --> 01:38:49,360 Speaker 2: she discusses, because somehow she's been allowed to be this 1663 01:38:49,400 --> 01:38:57,920 Speaker 2: opinion person, is all progressive nonsense and nothing that is rational. Now, 1664 01:38:58,040 --> 01:39:04,000 Speaker 2: when CNN hired Chris Lived, I had high hopes for. 1665 01:39:04,000 --> 01:39:05,160 Speaker 4: Him as the CEO. 1666 01:39:05,840 --> 01:39:10,439 Speaker 2: His job was to reset CNN into a it's a 1667 01:39:10,439 --> 01:39:14,719 Speaker 2: worthy model, and it didn't work. Lots of resistance, lots 1668 01:39:14,760 --> 01:39:20,400 Speaker 2: of leaks, and then he was let go. It really 1669 01:39:20,479 --> 01:39:23,559 Speaker 2: stinks for him now. Maybe he wasn't the leader that 1670 01:39:23,680 --> 01:39:26,720 Speaker 2: was necessary. I don't know the man, I don't know 1671 01:39:26,720 --> 01:39:30,679 Speaker 2: all the internals, but I do know that CNN wants 1672 01:39:30,720 --> 01:39:35,559 Speaker 2: to be this a progressive outfit claiming to be decent. 1673 01:39:36,960 --> 01:39:39,920 Speaker 2: They don't apologize for pushing Russia, Russia, Russia. They don't 1674 01:39:39,920 --> 01:39:44,040 Speaker 2: apologize for pushing any COVID scams, they don't apologize for 1675 01:39:44,120 --> 01:39:47,960 Speaker 2: hiding Hunter Biden, and they still have the audacity to 1676 01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:52,360 Speaker 2: claim that they're the decent ones. You watch Abby Phillip 1677 01:39:52,439 --> 01:39:55,479 Speaker 2: on her show Abby Phillip Tonight, a show that could 1678 01:39:55,479 --> 01:39:59,320 Speaker 2: have been monumental for CNN in making this pivot, and 1679 01:39:59,360 --> 01:40:03,479 Speaker 2: wouldn't have taken and munch and instead support every leftist 1680 01:40:03,520 --> 01:40:06,599 Speaker 2: on the show attack Scott Jennings all day, all night, 1681 01:40:06,680 --> 01:40:09,360 Speaker 2: all the time, and that guy handles himself like no 1682 01:40:09,400 --> 01:40:16,560 Speaker 2: one you've ever seen. It's super impressive, super duper impressive. 1683 01:40:18,840 --> 01:40:24,120 Speaker 2: CNN hasn't changed a bit. They are still the Jim 1684 01:40:24,120 --> 01:40:29,280 Speaker 2: Acosta place. They're still the Jim Acosta station. If she 1685 01:40:29,520 --> 01:40:32,559 Speaker 2: is indeed telling the truth that she's going to be gone. 1686 01:40:33,160 --> 01:40:36,080 Speaker 2: The question being asked was actually asked by Garrett Seawright 1687 01:40:36,120 --> 01:40:39,040 Speaker 2: in one of the radio trades called Barrett Media Barrettmedia 1688 01:40:39,080 --> 01:40:39,759 Speaker 2: dot Com. 1689 01:40:42,120 --> 01:40:43,240 Speaker 4: It's the right question. 1690 01:40:44,800 --> 01:40:47,960 Speaker 2: Is kro Switcher on her own or other people going 1691 01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:53,960 Speaker 2: to follow suit? Will other people quit CNN because of 1692 01:40:54,040 --> 01:40:54,760 Speaker 2: the takeover? 1693 01:40:55,439 --> 01:40:58,759 Speaker 4: And my answer is gosh, I hope so. 1694 01:41:00,280 --> 01:41:04,040 Speaker 2: Good. Let them leave. Do you know how much talent 1695 01:41:04,200 --> 01:41:08,000 Speaker 2: is out there, Tony? You're just talking about yourself. Oh yeah, sure, 1696 01:41:08,439 --> 01:41:10,960 Speaker 2: I'd all be a great opportunity as long as I 1697 01:41:10,960 --> 01:41:15,320 Speaker 2: didn't have to do one of those kinds of shows, right, 1698 01:41:15,880 --> 01:41:20,000 Speaker 2: I know I could do it, like as a host. 1699 01:41:20,240 --> 01:41:26,599 Speaker 2: I'm fully aware that I could do the Hannity type show. 1700 01:41:28,080 --> 01:41:31,160 Speaker 2: I don't think that's what I want. Could I do 1701 01:41:31,240 --> 01:41:35,040 Speaker 2: the Brett Bher kind of show? Yes, I could. I 1702 01:41:35,040 --> 01:41:38,040 Speaker 2: would be more interested in the Tim Russer esque kind 1703 01:41:38,040 --> 01:41:39,639 Speaker 2: of show. And you could argue, isn't that what Brett 1704 01:41:39,640 --> 01:41:42,640 Speaker 2: Baer does? And I would say I would think that 1705 01:41:42,720 --> 01:41:46,760 Speaker 2: there's a little more rigidness to Brettbear's time slot. 1706 01:41:46,960 --> 01:41:49,840 Speaker 4: And I would want a little more expansiveness. 1707 01:41:49,880 --> 01:41:52,799 Speaker 2: So that's where I make the difference, not disparaging Brettbaar 1708 01:41:52,800 --> 01:41:55,920 Speaker 2: in the slightest, but what I really want is late night. 1709 01:41:56,400 --> 01:41:58,360 Speaker 2: You know. It's like, you know, what I really want 1710 01:41:58,400 --> 01:42:00,439 Speaker 2: to do is direct. No, what I would really want 1711 01:42:00,560 --> 01:42:05,040 Speaker 2: is late night for sure. Absolutely. I think there's more 1712 01:42:05,120 --> 01:42:08,479 Speaker 2: room in that space. And I think that if you 1713 01:42:08,560 --> 01:42:14,240 Speaker 2: mix comedy with kind of the the the interview long 1714 01:42:14,280 --> 01:42:18,920 Speaker 2: form interview concepts, Larry King, Oh, who's the guy who 1715 01:42:19,040 --> 01:42:20,800 Speaker 2: ended up taking off his pants in front of people? 1716 01:42:20,880 --> 01:42:26,759 Speaker 2: Charlie Rose, the name Charlie Rose, right, that kind of stuff, 1717 01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:29,519 Speaker 2: like I always wanted to do the longer form meets 1718 01:42:29,520 --> 01:42:33,080 Speaker 2: Playboy after dark with the cigar, with the bourbon, everything 1719 01:42:33,080 --> 01:42:35,280 Speaker 2: else and kind of get kind of get. 1720 01:42:35,080 --> 01:42:39,120 Speaker 4: Into it with with with all sorts of people. 1721 01:42:39,560 --> 01:42:41,599 Speaker 2: That's where I'd like to be a little more comedy, 1722 01:42:42,680 --> 01:42:45,080 Speaker 2: willing to be to laugh, kind of focus. 1723 01:42:45,120 --> 01:42:47,240 Speaker 4: I would say that's where i'd want to be, and 1724 01:42:47,280 --> 01:42:49,200 Speaker 4: I would show I'd absolutely want to want to do 1725 01:42:49,280 --> 01:42:50,120 Speaker 4: and still want to do. 1726 01:42:51,280 --> 01:42:53,000 Speaker 2: But yeah, there's a lot of people out there, and 1727 01:42:53,040 --> 01:42:55,200 Speaker 2: you could probably name one hundred people, you know what, 1728 01:42:55,240 --> 01:42:57,320 Speaker 2: maybe not one hundred. You can name five. You give 1729 01:42:57,360 --> 01:42:58,960 Speaker 2: it five minutes a thought, you'll come up with five 1730 01:42:59,000 --> 01:43:01,479 Speaker 2: people you listen to they'd be like, yep, they would 1731 01:43:01,479 --> 01:43:05,040 Speaker 2: do a great job. There's so much good talent out 1732 01:43:05,080 --> 01:43:07,080 Speaker 2: there that doesn't get the chance. And you say to me, 1733 01:43:07,080 --> 01:43:09,000 Speaker 2: who would want to be on CNN? And what I 1734 01:43:09,040 --> 01:43:11,400 Speaker 2: would say to you is, we don't know what CNN 1735 01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:15,120 Speaker 2: is going to be yet. We don't know. 1736 01:43:17,120 --> 01:43:18,000 Speaker 4: And with a new. 1737 01:43:17,880 --> 01:43:20,439 Speaker 2: Ownership, if you're going to lose these people, there's a 1738 01:43:20,520 --> 01:43:22,800 Speaker 2: chance to remake it into something. It doesn't have to 1739 01:43:22,840 --> 01:43:26,439 Speaker 2: be a conservative something, no, but it could offer up 1740 01:43:26,479 --> 01:43:30,120 Speaker 2: perspectives and ideas and thoughts and simply not be hateful 1741 01:43:31,439 --> 01:43:33,720 Speaker 2: maybe more to the point, and yes, hateful is a 1742 01:43:33,800 --> 01:43:34,439 Speaker 2: huge part of it. 1743 01:43:34,960 --> 01:43:40,240 Speaker 4: Not be so full of crap. CNN is full of garbage. 1744 01:43:40,840 --> 01:43:43,519 Speaker 2: They lie to themselves and they lie to us every 1745 01:43:43,560 --> 01:43:46,559 Speaker 2: single day about them not having a slant and not 1746 01:43:46,600 --> 01:43:51,040 Speaker 2: having a bias at least say so. My name's Tony Katz. 1747 01:43:51,080 --> 01:43:54,439 Speaker 2: I'm a conservative. I don't apologize for a damn thing. 1748 01:43:54,439 --> 01:43:56,439 Speaker 2: And if you don't like it, tell your mother to 1749 01:43:56,520 --> 01:43:59,680 Speaker 2: kiss off. I don't care. This is it. 1750 01:44:00,840 --> 01:44:02,960 Speaker 4: This is who I am, and this is what I'm doing. 1751 01:44:04,360 --> 01:44:06,800 Speaker 2: And if you want to give me Katari money to 1752 01:44:06,880 --> 01:44:10,400 Speaker 2: change my mind, I'm gonna say sorry. There are other 1753 01:44:10,479 --> 01:44:12,800 Speaker 2: guys out there that you might want to go to. 1754 01:44:14,479 --> 01:44:16,519 Speaker 2: This is it, this is the show I want to do. 1755 01:44:16,880 --> 01:44:19,000 Speaker 2: These are the conversations I want to have. This is 1756 01:44:19,040 --> 01:44:23,880 Speaker 2: how I want to engage. And I think that there's 1757 01:44:23,960 --> 01:44:27,800 Speaker 2: room for a whole bunch of stuff. I don't think 1758 01:44:27,840 --> 01:44:31,240 Speaker 2: that you have to not listen to other people, not 1759 01:44:31,320 --> 01:44:33,800 Speaker 2: engage with other people, But I sure sell don't want 1760 01:44:33,800 --> 01:44:36,200 Speaker 2: to engage with other people who are going to start with, well, 1761 01:44:36,200 --> 01:44:38,040 Speaker 2: you know Trump's a pedophile. No he's not. 1762 01:44:38,720 --> 01:44:41,280 Speaker 4: That's crap, and that's the stuff you dismiss. 1763 01:44:41,479 --> 01:44:43,759 Speaker 2: But people who might disagree with the policy of Trumpelly, 1764 01:44:43,960 --> 01:44:47,200 Speaker 2: I'll talk to them. Disagree with the policy of Israel, 1765 01:44:47,240 --> 01:44:52,000 Speaker 2: I talk to them too, Or England or France, which 1766 01:44:52,120 --> 01:44:57,040 Speaker 2: I disagree with many of their policies, specifically immigration policies. 1767 01:44:59,040 --> 01:45:01,439 Speaker 4: There's a great opportun tinnity here. Why would I say 1768 01:45:01,479 --> 01:45:02,000 Speaker 4: no to it? 1769 01:45:02,200 --> 01:45:06,000 Speaker 2: Why would anybody? We don't know what we're gonna get. 1770 01:45:06,720 --> 01:45:08,080 Speaker 4: That's my point about Kara Swisher. 1771 01:45:08,080 --> 01:45:09,639 Speaker 2: She doesn't know what she's gonna get, but she's already 1772 01:45:09,640 --> 01:45:14,160 Speaker 2: out the door, which means she knows what she's giving, 1773 01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:18,479 Speaker 2: and what she's giving isn't needed, what she's giving isn't good, 1774 01:45:19,080 --> 01:45:22,600 Speaker 2: what she's giving doesn't get ratings, and most importantly, what 1775 01:45:22,720 --> 01:45:27,080 Speaker 2: she's giving precludes the importance of honesty, which is what 1776 01:45:27,280 --> 01:45:32,000 Speaker 2: happens when you disagree with your own team. You gotta 1777 01:45:32,040 --> 01:45:35,479 Speaker 2: say so, and you see ann people won't do it. 1778 01:45:36,400 --> 01:45:40,240 Speaker 2: So yeah, let the takeover happen. Show these people the door, 1779 01:45:40,760 --> 01:45:45,280 Speaker 2: and no one is going to miss Kara Swisher. No one. 1780 01:45:45,640 --> 01:45:49,400 Speaker 2: Let me say it again, no one. I'm Tony Katz. 1781 01:45:49,400 --> 01:45:52,839 Speaker 2: This is Tony Katz today. So Meta is found guilty 1782 01:45:53,320 --> 01:45:58,080 Speaker 2: and has to pay three hundred and seventy five million 1783 01:45:58,160 --> 01:45:59,280 Speaker 2: dollars in fines. 1784 01:45:59,400 --> 01:46:01,599 Speaker 4: Tony Katz, Tony kats Today. 1785 01:46:02,240 --> 01:46:05,439 Speaker 2: The claim is that Meta failed to protect kids from 1786 01:46:05,479 --> 01:46:11,280 Speaker 2: sexual predators and misled users. They're appealing the case, but 1787 01:46:11,400 --> 01:46:13,040 Speaker 2: that's not the part I think we should pay attention to. 1788 01:46:13,080 --> 01:46:15,400 Speaker 2: All though we should see how the appeal goes. It's 1789 01:46:15,439 --> 01:46:18,479 Speaker 2: not a court was willing to say to a tech company, 1790 01:46:18,560 --> 01:46:23,120 Speaker 2: to a social media platform, you're not doing enough, which 1791 01:46:23,160 --> 01:46:26,040 Speaker 2: now leads to two things. Number one, What happens when 1792 01:46:26,080 --> 01:46:30,800 Speaker 2: they start doing enough? What gets curtailed? Does that mean 1793 01:46:30,840 --> 01:46:33,439 Speaker 2: your ability to speak gets curtailed? Does that mean the 1794 01:46:33,520 --> 01:46:36,720 Speaker 2: box and all the fake users suddenly go? And if 1795 01:46:36,760 --> 01:46:40,599 Speaker 2: they go, where is their money? Because don't they make 1796 01:46:40,640 --> 01:46:44,960 Speaker 2: a lot of money from that? This case, which isn't 1797 01:46:44,960 --> 01:46:48,120 Speaker 2: getting much play because of course everything happened with I 1798 01:46:48,160 --> 01:46:50,720 Speaker 2: Ran and oil prices and is there really going to 1799 01:46:50,760 --> 01:46:52,200 Speaker 2: be an end to this war? Who in the world 1800 01:46:52,240 --> 01:46:57,800 Speaker 2: could you possibly be negotiating with? This case has ramifications 1801 01:46:57,920 --> 01:47:01,200 Speaker 2: we don't even know yet. Does this cause smaller players 1802 01:47:01,240 --> 01:47:03,599 Speaker 2: to get out of the game? Does it require them 1803 01:47:03,600 --> 01:47:07,880 Speaker 2: to have less users? I'm telling you remember this because 1804 01:47:07,960 --> 01:47:10,480 Speaker 2: we're going to be hearing about this and it's reverberations 1805 01:47:11,320 --> 01:47:15,120 Speaker 2: for a while. Find everything at Tony kats dot com tomorrow. Everyone, 1806 01:47:15,240 --> 01:47:15,599 Speaker 2: take care