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Speaker 1: Eddie, let me tell you what happened to me last night.

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Speaker 1: Folks of Indianapolis, let me tell you what happened to

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Speaker 1: me last night. This time of year is always wonky.

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Speaker 1: It's always wonky because your body's still getting used to

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Speaker 2: Changed the clock.

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Speaker 1: And at times you got that one clock to eat

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Speaker 2: What's going on?

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Speaker 1: And you're getting up in the morning and it's freezing outside,

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Speaker 1: and then by the middle of the day it's bright

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Speaker 1: it's going to be a beautiful weekend and we just

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Speaker 1: had a gorgeous weekend.

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Speaker 2: All of this stuff's going on.

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Speaker 1: It's all about change and moving forward and looking, you know,

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Speaker 1: I sat there last night and three forty eight in

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Speaker 1: and the following brain dropping hits me, which we'll talk about.

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Speaker 2: Over the course of the show today.

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Speaker 1: Periodically, I got to thinking about sports logos, color schemes, helmets.

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Speaker 2: You know, this is a favorite of mine, designs because

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Speaker 2: somebody put out a list of.

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Speaker 1: The teams in the Sweet sixteen and at the bottom

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Speaker 1: of it had the logo for four of the schools,

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Speaker 1: fact that they basically just spelled out damn right there

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Speaker 1: you gotta be better than that.

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Speaker 2: You gotta be smarter than that.

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Speaker 1: So I got to thinking about logos, and I started

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Speaker 1: wondering to myself, and I came up with the Denver Broncos,

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Speaker 1: morning that truthfully, I was super excited to present to

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Speaker 1: Eddie to start today's show, but he just got up

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Speaker 1: that he knows where I'm going with that. But Eddie,

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Speaker 1: would you like to guess where I'm going with this?

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Speaker 3: I'm going to guess how to do with today being

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Speaker 3: my half birthday.

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Speaker 2: No, but happy half birthday in.

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Speaker 3: All honesty, Jake, it's actually it is my dad's birthday today.

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Speaker 3: So happy birthday to my dad. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: Happy birthday dead. Yeah. So the Denver Broncos.

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Speaker 1: When I was thinking about logos, and I was thinking

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Speaker 1: about color schemes, and I was thinking about bright new

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Speaker 1: reason where I'm going with this. The Denver Broncos, the

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Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks, the Law Los Angeles, Saint Louis Rams, the

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Speaker 1: Indiana Pacers. When it comes to logos and color schemes,

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Speaker 1: what do all of the New England Patriots if we're

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Speaker 1: playing if we're playing one hundred thousand dollars pyramid, these teams,

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Speaker 1: when it comes to logos and color schemes, what do

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Speaker 1: they all have in common?

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Speaker 2: Eddie? The New England Patriots, the Denver Broncos, the Seattle Seahawks,

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Speaker 2: the Indiana Pacers, they all have blue.

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Speaker 1: No, the Los Angeles, Saint Louis Rams. I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: think of other examples that fall into this category. To

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Speaker 1: an extent, you could say Indiana University Football, although that's

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Speaker 1: a stretch.

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Speaker 2: That's a stretch.

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Speaker 1: Those are the ones that really pop out in my

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Speaker 2: I don't know where you're going with this.

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Speaker 1: Those are all franchises I began thinking about this last night.

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Speaker 1: Franchises that. Okay, here's another one, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,

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Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. You're close, You're along the right

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Speaker 1: track here. These are all franchises and or programs who

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Speaker 1: seemingly underwent a color and logo rebrand that then suddenly

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Speaker 1: turned their fortunes as a franchise. And it's all about

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Speaker 2: And I think we saw it.

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Speaker 1: I started thinking about that with teams and I thought,

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Speaker 1: you know what, the Indiana Pacers fall into that category

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Speaker 1: because the Pacers and I love I'm not saying like

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Speaker 1: I'm using the term love here. I have an unhealthy

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Speaker 2: It, and watches and watches and Colone correct.

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Speaker 1: But they if you go into the Pacers gift shop

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Speaker 1: But it was around ninety two to ninety three ish

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Speaker 1: maybe I'm having this awakening about fortunes changing and things

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Speaker 1: going in the right direction. Because lo and behold Eddie,

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Speaker 1: Lo and behold. Last night, for the first time since

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Speaker 1: the All Star Break, and I don't know if you

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Speaker 1: have the Halleluja music cue up and ready to fire

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Speaker 1: and ready to go, but here we go, the first

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Speaker 2: They beat the Orlando match last night.

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Speaker 1: And before you say to yourself, what are they doing,

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Speaker 1: They're gonna screw this up. They're gonna screw this up

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Speaker 1: because everything it has been a dream season. It has

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Speaker 1: been a season. If you thought last year everything bounced

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Speaker 1: the PACER's way, and it did to a great extent.

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Speaker 1: Some of those bounces and some of that fortune came

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Speaker 1: without saying. Okay, that goes without saying. But they had

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Speaker 1: a lot of things that went their way last year.

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Speaker 1: The ball that bounced high in the air in Madison

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Speaker 1: that was a two nint of three and they got

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Speaker 1: win that game.

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Speaker 2: Nie Smith catches fire at the right time. The Cleveland series,

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Speaker 2: you know what happened on and on and on.

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Speaker 1: Good things happened to the Pacers until they didn't. And

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Speaker 1: once the basketball gods determined for the Indiana Pacers that

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Speaker 1: this year, because if you're not gonna have haliburt, sure

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Speaker 1: I still will die on the mountaintop of insisting that

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Speaker 1: other injuries. But the year begins with Topping getting hurt,

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Speaker 1: And then you realize, you know what this is going

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Speaker 1: be about the rebrand a year from now of what

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Speaker 1: we've seen this year. This is going to be about

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Speaker 1: the bright, sunny future. And this Pacer season is going

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Speaker 1: to be one that is a lot like the weather.

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Speaker 2: This time of year.

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Speaker 1: Started out doldrum and cold, and then all of a

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Speaker 1: And that's what happened to an extent last night. What

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Speaker 1: is this guy talking about? The Pacers beat Orlando for

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Speaker 1: their first win since the All Star Break, and they

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Speaker 2: This guy's off his rocker. Not entirely wrong, but.

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Speaker 1: When you are looking at the season, and we've gone

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Speaker 1: come right back to resuming your regularly scheduled programming. You

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Speaker 2: And then you got two choices.

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Speaker 1: One is you unpause it and you sit there and

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Speaker 1: you go through all those commercials, or you say.

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Speaker 1: I would have been anyway. And that's seemingly what the

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Speaker 1: influence the odds of them ending up with a top

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Speaker 1: four pick. They are one and the same. Whichever way

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Speaker 2: They're beyond that now.

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Speaker 1: So you've got to hope for those top four and

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Speaker 1: hope that the basketball gods in the basketball karma who

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Speaker 1: And yes, they would have had the second pick in

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Speaker 2: They might have drafted that kid from Carolina. This is

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Speaker 2: the basketball gods that are going to look at it

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Speaker 2: His rookie year, he never got on track. And then

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Speaker 2: at Dallas he became a pretty good player.

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Speaker 1: Or a franchise that drafted Scott Haskin, who was going

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Speaker 2: Derailed his career.

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Speaker 1: Karma and the basketball gods are going to come back

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Speaker 1: to help Indiana and they're going to draft in the.

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Speaker 1: But last night what happened in Orlando was significant, and

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Speaker 1: it was important because there's a guy on the Pacers

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Speaker 1: roster in Pascal Siakam who's been a pros pro. They

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Speaker 1: Inquiring Company Here ninety.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to get to the thing that happened in

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Speaker 1: there and talk to Jaylaw, see him and the rest

438
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 1: of all of you cast of characters that we look

439
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:29,360
Speaker 1: forward to seeing for that and the Jaylaw is a

440
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:35,919
Speaker 1: diehard EYU fan. He was with John down at the

441
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: National Championship Game down in Miami, and I have a

442
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 1: ton of respect for this. He has has Jaylaw undergone

443
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:54,479
Speaker 1: and been very open about the fact that he is

444
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 1: undergoing treatment for cancer, and has been very open about

445
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: that in chronicle his journey for really the last couple

446
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 1: of years. That journey has led him to a surgery today.

447
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: And I believe, I don't want to be off base.

448
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: I believe if I recall correctly, it's a prostate cancer.

449
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 1: But that's really neither here nor there. The reality is

450
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: that he has had a health challenge for the last

451
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: year or so. And I realized that very few of

452
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: you that can hear my voice right now may personally

453
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: know him. He's probably more just representative of what so

454
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: many of us have come across, whether it be individually

455
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: or someone we know or a colleague and the journey

456
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: with cancer. But he has been so transparent and so

457
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,919
Speaker 1: encouraging to others about his health. And we talked to

458
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 1: him when he was down with John and Florida for

459
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 1: the Indiana National Championship Game and about his journey that

460
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: is leading him to a surgery today that he hopes

461
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: allows him to be cancer free and takes the cancer

462
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 1: out of him. Of course, we won't know, nor will

463
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 1: he for some time whether that is the case. And

464
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: it's very easy to say, and this is just my opinion,

465
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: but it's very easy to say when you hear the

466
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 1: song I fought the law and the law won, to

467
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 1: say cancer fought the law and Jaylaw is going to win.

468
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 2: You got this cancer picked the wrong person. We hear

469
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 2: all of those things, right.

470
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: I think sometimes and I'm just st I'm not saying

471
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: this is correct. It's my own personal thought, but I

472
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: know that when I went through a health scare and

473
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: in no way shape perform on my comparing what I

474
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: went through to what Jay Law is going through, because

475
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: my deal was a couple of months probably in the

476
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: recovery psychologically speaking, at least and when you're faced with

477
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 1: your own mortality. In that regard, I've always been hesitant

478
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: to say, like, you got this, kick it in the tail,

479
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: kick it in the teeth. It picked the wrong person,

480
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: because that's not my battle to fight and it's not

481
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: my journey. I think my personal opinion would be that

482
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: sometimes the best way to support people in that situation

483
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: is to say, do what's best for you. Do it

484
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: in the time and the fashion and with the vigor

485
00:29:55,720 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: that works for you, and don't feel like if this

486
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: means that this is just another hurdle and there are

487
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: going to be more hurdles ahead, that you're letting anybody down,

488
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: or that you're losing that battle, because you're not. The

489
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: battles defined by the spirit with which you go into it,

490
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: not necessarily the fashion in which it ends or is fought.

491
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 2: And so.

492
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: I never want people to feel like there's a pressure

493
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: of an expectation of the way they go about it.

494
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: So if you're listening to my voice right now and

495
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: you are on a similar path, a similar journey, you

496
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 1: can look to examples like Jaylaw and the strength that

497
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 1: he's shown in being so transparent and what I'm sure

498
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: is a terrifying situation, and simply know that there's a

499
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: network of people that are willing to do what they

500
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: can to help you out should you need it, and

501
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: to be supportive of course, but at the same time

502
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: who are going to pull for love you and hope

503
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: the best for you, regardless of whichever pace your body

504
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 1: chooses to go through it. And so go at the

505
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: pace that's best for you. And I absolutely hope and

506
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: like so many, pray for the best for Jaylaw in

507
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: his recovery and also let him know that if his

508
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: recovery is extended longer than what he thinks, that those

509
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: exact sentiments simply continue on.

510
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 2: And that's that.

511
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: And simply hope the best for him, and look forward

512
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: to seeing him at the golf out and coming up

513
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: on April thirtieth. News came out earlier today. This is

514
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: something I never thought i'd see, although I'm not surprised

515
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: today Darius Acuff.

516
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 2: Who has really been.

517
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: You know, in CAA tournaments, sometimes that's what makes a star.

518
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: Oftentimes there are those players that march madness in one

519
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: shining moment or one shining game puts them on the map,

520
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: and sometimes it's short lived. You know, the the point

521
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: guard for Saint Peter with the mustache and ended up

522
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: getting a deal with I.

523
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 2: Think Doug Edert. Doug Eddert like BW three or something. Yep.

524
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: Kevin Pittsnagle from West Virginia. Now he's you know, he's

525
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: like a high school coach or something now, which is cool.

526
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: I'm just it's not like he turned into an NBA star.

527
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: Then there are those players that have been really solid,

528
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 1: good players over the course of the year, and if

529
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: you follow basketball or if you follow that team, you're

530
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: well aware of how good they are. And then in

531
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: the NCAA tournament it all comes together. Glenn Rice comes

532
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: to mind. Glenn Rice was a great player at Michigan.

533
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: Rice still to this day holds the record for most

534
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: points in an NCAA tournament run in that eighty nine season.

535
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 1: Glenn Rice, I mean it was like good night. Miles

536
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: Simon comes to mind at Arizona here in the RCA Dome,

537
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: Scottie Thurman for Arkansas. You know, there have been a

538
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: lot of them, and sometimes that means NBA greatness and

539
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: sometimes it doesn't. And in the case of darise A Cuff,

540
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: he's been a really solid player at Arkansas, and everybody

541
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: knew that he was a top five, top ten level

542
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: draft prospect. And I think now you could literally say,

543
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: and a little it's out of sight, out of mind

544
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: because Caleb Wilson at North Carolina due to the injury,

545
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: you kind of forget about him. But I think he's

546
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: right there in that top four as well. But now

547
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: it's a top five and four and five, three, four

548
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: and five. Maybe it's interchangeable there, maybe there's some some

549
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: movement floating around, but a cuff today it's announced has

550
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:09,720
Speaker 1: a shoe deal already with Reebok. So a college player

551
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: is inching an individual shoe deal. Now, Braiden Smith was wearing.

552
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: Did you see what Braden Smith was wearing on Sunday? No,

553
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: I believe they're John Morant's shoes, right, they have like

554
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 1: kind of that they almost look like they are like

555
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: sequin slippers. I think they're John Morant, but Nike nonetheless,

556
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: pretty a Nike school, and I heard several people that

557
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 1: were like, what in the world does he have on

558
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: his feet? I'm like, well, first off, if you got

559
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: to keep in mind, I mean, listen, when I was

560
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 1: a senior in high school, I mean, Mike Byron shaved

561
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: an EYU logo into his head. I mean, you do

562
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,439
Speaker 1: stupid stuff, right, Chris farc has put Bama in his head,

563
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: and I probably would have done the same if I

564
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 1: would have been with him that day. I got a

565
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: Jayhawk earring Eddie when I was nineteen. I literally had

566
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: a Jayhawk pierced into my ear my senior year spring break.

567
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: And that lasted for a week before I knew I

568
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: had to come home because my dad mentioned Vincent Van gooh,

569
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 1: and I'm like, all right, we're good. But anyway, you

570
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 1: do dumb stuff when you're younger, and these guys are

571
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,280
Speaker 1: not younger. I get it, they're young men at this point.

572
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 1: But the target demo of wearing like flashy shoes or something.

573
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: They're trying to catch the eye not of the forty

574
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 1: five year old guy, but rather of the kid in

575
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: high school that's going to look up to that and

576
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: think it's cool. And I assumed that Braiden Smith wearing

577
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: those shoes that were Nike. I don't know if it

578
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: was individualized money for Braiden Smith, but certainly part of

579
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: the licensing agreement with Purdue. But now that players this

580
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: is going to be you watch. This is going to

581
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: be another watershed moment because players, Now, if you think

582
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: this is significant just strictly because hey, this is cool,

583
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,720
Speaker 1: and this is the guy that's getting his contract because

584
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 1: he's about to go into the NBA and could he

585
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: be one that is a pacer possibility.

586
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 3: It is significant Jake in this regard because he's the

587
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 3: first NCAA men's athlete to receive a shoe deal from

588
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,720
Speaker 3: one of the major US brands while still in college.

589
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 1: Right, That's what I mean. Yeah, And so this is

590
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 1: why there is another hook to this. One of my

591
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: favorite things about history. Love history. Been to probably fifteen

592
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: different presidential libraries, burial sites, Holmes love history. And one

593
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: of the things I love about history is oftentimes you

594
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: can look back on it and say, there was the

595
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: precipice for the today, and there is historical significance towards

596
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 1: this thing and how it could impact not just the pacers.

597
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 1: If he's going to become a pacer, and that means

598
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: that Reebok is what he's wearing, and he's already got

599
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: a shoe deal and whatever else, and maybe that impacts

600
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: what he's going to do in terms of his NBA.

601
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 1: You know, whatever, But historical precedent says this could be

602
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: significant to Indiana and Purdue and Butler in.

603
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 2: Indiana State.

604
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: Darius A Club of Arkansas could have significance towards the

605
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 1: building of those programs, and history tells us that. And

606
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: I'll explain next. W you just heard John talking about it,

607
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: Sweet sixteen. Take a look at it right now. I'm

608
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: going to name the school, Eddie, And I'm not saying that.

609
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 1: I'm going to lean on you here right because I

610
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: think most of these we can probably do. Some of them,

611
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: we might be tripped up a little bit. Okay, I'm

612
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: going to mention the school, and I want you to

613
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: tell me the shoe they wear?

614
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 2: You ready? Oh boy? Okay? Duke uh Nike? Correct?

615
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: Kansas? Oh No, Kansas is out. Connecticut, I don't know.

616
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure Connecticut's Nike as well. Michigan State Nike,

617
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: Arizona Nike, Purdue, Nike, Michigan Jordan correct, Houston, Houston is own.

618
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: Houston might be Adidas, look up Houston. Most of these,

619
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: you know though, right, most of them, it's like you

620
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: just automatically know it's been branded that way, right that

621
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: you're aware of which school or which shoe they align

622
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: Iowa State?

623
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:41,720
Speaker 2: Maybe a Houston is Jordan? Okay? What is Iowa State?

624
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 2: Are they? Are there any Adidas left? I don't know.

625
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 2: Here's why I bring it all up right there, though,

626
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 2: it goes to show that Nike. Okay, so Nike's got

627
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 2: a pretty good strangle old here on this sixteen. But

628
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 2: let's go back to history.

629
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: I was a terrible college student, especially early in my

630
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: college career. I went away to the University of Kansas,

631
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: and I was a diehard IU fan growing up. I mean,

632
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: I loved IU, the campus, the union breaking away is

633
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 1: Adidas St. John's, Yes, and I loved everything about IU.

634
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: But I was a slacker student and so going to

635
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 1: IU was not academically really a reality for me.

636
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 2: So I went to Kansas. It was like IU, a

637
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 2: little more welcoming to the slacker student.

638
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: And I also liked the fact that it was a

639
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: big state university with a big time basketball program.

640
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 2: So it was IU but not IU. Nebraska also Adidas.

641
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 2: That surprised me about Nebraska.

642
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 1: So I go to a way to KU and immediately

643
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: I'm homesick and it just did not go well. Lived

644
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: in a fraternity eventually was like look enough of this,

645
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: I moved into a dorm and my day essentially consisted

646
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: of watching like family feud and saved by the bell,

647
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: and then going and skulking around the mail area to

648
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: see if the mail showed up before I found out

649
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: what was for lunch or dinner that night in the dorms.

650
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: And one day I was hanging around in the mail

651
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 1: room and two guys from the dorms that were diehard

652
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: KU fans grew up in Kansas, die hard rock, chalk Jayhawk,

653
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: and they were devastated, devastated because they couldn't believe the

654
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 1: news that the number one point guard in America who

655
00:40:54,560 --> 00:41:00,879
Speaker 1: had previously committed to Kansas. That rumor was that that

656
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: player was now backing out of his commitment and going

657
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: instead to California. And literally, and he was from Alameda, California.

658
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: And everybody's like, well, he's from Alameda, California. Of course

659
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: he'd go to cal Berkeley's right on the other side

660
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:22,720
Speaker 1: of the bay. And then everyone stopped and said, repeat

661
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: that again, because word was that this point guard had

662
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 1: backed out of his commitment to Kansas to go to

663
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:34,240
Speaker 1: cal because he liked the way the Nike shoes felt

664
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:38,479
Speaker 1: on his feet versus what Kansas was wearing at the time,

665
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 1: which was either Converse or Adidas might have been Converse,

666
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 1: and we're like, wait a minute, you're telling me that

667
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 1: a guy just chose his college basketball program based on

668
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 1: the shoes they wear, and we thought.

669
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,439
Speaker 2: It was based on comfort. He like the pumps better.

670
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 1: Well, what Jason Kidd was telling us was an introduction

671
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 1: to where college basketball was going, because for a while

672
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 1: there the way it worked was this. That was the

673
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: beginning of it. Then you get into like the world

674
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: Wide West and the shoe involvement with different programs, and

675
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: it was real simple what was happening. Shoe representatives would

676
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: go to these AAU tournaments and they would go to

677
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: John Doe, who's coaching the give me a city off

678
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: top of your head of the United States, Eddie boomgo Tucson, Tucson.

679
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: So John Doe is the coach of uh, the Tucson Tacos,

680
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: thank you, the Tucson Tacos.

681
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 2: That's the AAU team.

682
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 1: That's the team in Tucson, and John Doe's coaching that

683
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: and he's got their fourteen year olds and he's coaching

684
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: it because he knows that there's one guy on the

685
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: team that might someday make it to the NBA, and

686
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: I'll be darn John Doe. Then we'll be able to

687
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: be on a thirty for thirty and be talked about

688
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 1: out how he was the coach that discovered that player.

689
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: So John Doe's coaching that team, and this kid on

690
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 1: the Two Santacos is a bright rising star. So one

691
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: of the shoe companies comes to the Two Santacos to

692
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: John Doe and says, listen, you got a really nice

693
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: team here, and you're playing these you're playing, but we

694
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: know you know there's a tournament now, Passo, you're gonna

695
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: want to go to. There's a really big tournament coming

696
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 1: up in Bakersfield that costs money to travel.

697
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 2: We're willing to sponsor you.

698
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 1: So we're going to give you a check for fifty

699
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 1: grand to sponsor the Two Santacos to make it possible

700
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: for you to play in a couple of these tournaments

701
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: and come and talk to us next year. And the

702
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,240
Speaker 1: Two Santacos go and do it, and this player really

703
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: blossoms and he shows and this happens two or three

704
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 1: years in a row, and then the shoe company goes

705
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: to John Doe after year three, now that the players

706
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: are seventeen, and says, hey, we've had a heck of

707
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: a time sponsor in the two Santacos, and we just

708
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: figured it out.

709
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 2: We crunch the numbers here.

710
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: We've given you two hundred thousand dollars in sponsor money

711
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 1: over the last three years, four years.

712
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 2: And you know, we know as well as you do.

713
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: It really only cost you fifteen grand to travel for

714
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: those games. So we're not interested in where that one

715
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty five grand went. That's not we're not

716
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: overly concerned about it. But that player you've got, that

717
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 1: you've had since fourteen, We're going to give you a

718
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: list of the twelve schools that we sponsor as a

719
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: shoe company, and we're going to assume that player is

720
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: going to pick amongst those twelve schools, right because we

721
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 1: don't want to have to come asking where one hundred

722
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: and eighty five grand. We're not worried about that. But

723
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: do me a favorite, would you, and just take a

724
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: long hard look at these schools and maybe talk to

725
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: the player. That's how it went for years. Now, we've

726
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: cut out all the middlemen.

727
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 3: Whatever happened to that Adidas investigation of like wired transferring

728
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 3: to players to go to certain schools, whatever happened.

729
00:44:55,360 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 2: To that, They redacted most of the files.

730
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 3: Because wasn't Kansas and Bill self and part of that?

731
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, isn't that what got Sean Miller fired at Arizona?

732
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:09,760
Speaker 2: Wire tapping is the whole deal? Yeah?

733
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 1: Well, but now we've gone right to the We've cut

734
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: out the middleman. So if Darius A. A Cup is

735
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: already getting a shoe deal while at Arkansas lo and behold,

736
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 1: we just blew the lid off the whole thing. And

737
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: now if you think Indiana is using nil money to

738
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: go out and build a roster, or Purdue with Nike

739
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 1: and Indiana with Adidas, and Michigan with Jordan Brand and

740
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 1: whatever else those schools, now, I mean, now you really

741
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:47,439
Speaker 1: know how you're.

742
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 2: Getting Guys, we got a point guard. We want to

743
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 2: come here.

744
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 1: It's not because the shoe fits, It's because the check clears.

745
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,720
Speaker 1: And you just cut out all those middlemen, and now

746
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: it is literally players are basically it's going to be

747
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 1: all about which shoe company is get It's always kind

748
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 1: of been that way, and history tells us It's always

749
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: been that way, but now it's just a lot more

750
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,240
Speaker 1: clear and you can hear it a lot louder.

751
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 2: Steven Holder.

752
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: Next, the NFL Owners Meetings are on the horizon, And

753
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:27,919
Speaker 1: what I know about that is this, it's the one

754
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 1: time each year that the mothership, the four Letter Network,

755
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,280
Speaker 1: ponies up the cash of nil money to send Steven

756
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: Holder to go stay in five star exotic resorts, golf,

757
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: fall over the place, a couple of massages in the afternoon,

758
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: probably a spa, cucumbers over the eyes when it's bedtime,

759
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: you name it. They got all that going on, and

760
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 1: it's all within close proximity of where the owners are staying.

761
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 1: So it's very important for Steven to be able to

762
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: put that on the expense report. And he joins us

763
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 1: now on the Java House Colbrew Coffee guest Line. Steven,

764
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: That's pretty much how it works at the NFL Owners meetings.

765
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 2: Right.

766
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 5: Well, listen, you have not lived until you have stayed

767
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 5: at the downtown Courtyard Marriott in Phoenix. Okay, let me

768
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 5: tell you. Okay, literally it is when you talk about luxury, Okay,

769
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 5: you're talking Courtyard Maria. And by the way, in all seriousness,

770
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 5: because so Phoenix and Arizona generally this time of year

771
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 5: is the epicenter of everything, right spring training, although I

772
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 5: guess that's wrapping up. But sometimes you have this constellation

773
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 5: of like spring training, spring break, golf obviously, and it

774
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 5: ends up being the place where everybody in the country

775
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 5: is going to. So your flight ends up costing like

776
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 5: a thousand dollars and the hotels are like four hundred

777
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 5: and fifty bucks a night. It's incredible, it's insane. So

778
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 5: my advice to you is, please go to Phoenix. It's great,

779
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 5: but don't go during spring break.

780
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would imagine.

781
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 4: Now.

782
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 2: The other thing too, is now Indianapolis.

783
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: I don't think it's so bad, but coming back from Phoenix,

784
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: just so you know, like if your flight's at six,

785
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 1: you got to get to there at ten thirty am.

786
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 5: Right, Well, I'm sure it's going to be something ridiculous. Yeah,

787
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 5: I'm bracing for that. I've heard good things and listeners

788
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 5: can can correct me if I'm wrong. I haven't flown

789
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 5: in a few weeks, so I haven't had to deal

790
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 5: with this yet. But it sounds like Indy is not

791
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 5: all that bad.

792
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: Correct, So around that I was here, I was there

793
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: like a week ago and it was okay.

794
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 2: For that matter, DFW wasn't mad either.

795
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: But anyway, let's get to the owners meeting, Steven and

796
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 1: I want to talk some college basketball with you too.

797
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: But for the owners meeting, what exactly does take place?

798
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: I know there are a couple of these over the

799
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,879
Speaker 1: course of the year, so the important issues to be

800
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: discussed will be what.

801
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 5: So it's funny this year, it's really not. It's not

802
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 5: one of those years where there's like a single burning

803
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 5: topic to be discussed.

804
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 2: Year.

805
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 5: Last couple of years, I guess the tush push has

806
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 5: been the dominant storyline where there's just a lot of

807
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 5: fighting over that.

808
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,280
Speaker 2: Apparently they have given.

809
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 5: Up on, at least for now, dealing with that. It

810
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 5: doesn't sound as though it's going to be a topic

811
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 5: of discussion, So a lot of it is going to

812
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 5: be minor rules changes, if any, and mostly because this

813
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 5: is the most important thing. Mostly money, okay, because that's

814
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 5: what the owners love to talk about, and they're very

815
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 5: good at making money. So that's really what a lot

816
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 5: of this is about, is they deal with their business topics. Oftentimes,

817
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:49,919
Speaker 5: though you do have rules proposals that become very newsworthy.

818
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 5: I just don't think we have a lot of those

819
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:53,919
Speaker 5: this year. It just is a weird year where there's

820
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 5: just not a burning topic.

821
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 4: So for the.

822
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 5: Colts fans who are following this, I think what you

823
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 5: want out of the next week is to is to

824
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 5: hear from the team leadership and you will.

825
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 2: Stephen with that.

826
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: And I want to be careful here because I'm not

827
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 1: in any way, shape or form, And I know this

828
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: is shocking when I say it this way. I'm not

829
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: trying to beat a dead horse here, Okay, but here

830
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:26,479
Speaker 1: is a subject matter that I've I'm fascinated by because

831
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: I don't know that we've gotten a lot of outward

832
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: clarity on it. When you talk about money and you

833
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 1: talk about ownership, whenever you have a change of ownership

834
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 1: at the NFL level or the NBA, major League Baseball,

835
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: whatever it may be, you're talking about money that is

836
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 1: in the stratosphere that you and I and the average

837
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: person can't grasp. But when you look at all of

838
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 1: the assets that Jim Mersey had that had been sold,

839
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:58,320
Speaker 1: and then I again, until I hear otherwise, I'm always

840
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 1: going to be under the assumption no fault of theirs

841
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: that there are tax burdens for Jim merces three daughters

842
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 1: that are still very challenging and calculated to try to

843
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: work and navigate through, and that that leads me to

844
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 1: wonder how it all gets taken care of. Now, I

845
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 1: want you to tell me if I'm being my typical

846
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: neurotic self and barking up a tree that has absolutely

847
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: no leaves left on it, well.

848
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:34,280
Speaker 5: It's not like you to ask questions at all. I'm sorry,

849
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 5: that's right. So look, I think so a couple of things.

850
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 5: A couple of things. Number one, Yes, I am not,

851
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 5: shockingly I am not a CPA because I am terrible

852
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 5: at math. I would I would completely screw you and

853
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 5: you would be paying the IRS for the next ten

854
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 5: years if I did your taxes. So that's the first thing.

855
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 5: So I'm not qualified to talk about taxes. However, Well,

856
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 5: here's what i'd say. Yeah, perfectly reasonable to assume that

857
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 5: there are estate issues that they have to deal with.

858
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 5: On the other hand, the thing that I want to

859
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 5: impress upon people is that the NFL is extremely detailed

860
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 5: about this. You must have on file in the NFL offices,

861
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 5: whether your owner is twenty years old or eighty years old.

862
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 5: There is a requirement that you have a succession plan

863
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 5: on file, and it is extremely detailed. They want to

864
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 5: know all of the ramifications that was you would assume

865
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 5: and not even assume. I know, the Colts had that

866
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 5: resolved with the NFL many many years ago, you know,

867
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 5: even before Jim Mercedes health really took a turn for

868
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 5: the worst in recent years. So it's a requirement, right,

869
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 5: So that was done. And the other thing I would

870
00:52:56,000 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 5: say is that the good thing, the good news for

871
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 5: for NFL owners is that you have one of the

872
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 5: most valuable assets in the world probably right in terms

873
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 5: of its value and what the investment is and what

874
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:12,760
Speaker 5: the value is and the profit and all that. Right,

875
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 5: these are multi billion dollar assets well as such. As such,

876
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 5: it is very easy if you need money. It is

877
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 5: very easy to make money because all you have to

878
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,800
Speaker 5: do is sell minority shares. And I have no indication,

879
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:31,320
Speaker 5: zero indication the cults are doing this. I'm just telling you.

880
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 5: You can look across the NFL and you will see

881
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 5: numerous teams.

882
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 2: Have done this.

883
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 5: You could raise two three, four hundred million dollars with

884
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,720
Speaker 5: the blink of an eye and just sell minority shares

885
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,399
Speaker 5: and keep control of your team. So if we start

886
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 5: to see that, that's when I think, okay, we have

887
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 5: to wonder what their financial state is.

888
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: So here's my question, Steven, And again this is going

889
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: to show a combination of my naivity towards the situation

890
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: and my overall mathematical challenge. Okay, I'm sure and someone

891
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 1: who this may be more of a tax attorney question.

892
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,919
Speaker 2: Okay, But if you have I'm your guy.

893
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 1: Okay, that's right, that's right, that Miami education, right, which

894
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 1: is a good Yeah. If you have the three daughters

895
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 1: and they have equal ownership, is that to say that

896
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 1: they each own thirty three and one third percent of

897
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: the franchise?

898
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 5: That is a great question, And I honestly do not

899
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 5: know the answer. It's one of those like technical.

900
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 2: Because here's why I ask you that way. If they

901
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 2: each yes, okay.

902
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:39,879
Speaker 1: So in other words, what I'm getting at is this,

903
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: let's just say, for the sake of discussion, let's say

904
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 1: that the yours, say daughters, say, look, we are unlike

905
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 1: the you know, Daniel Snyder was, or Bob Kraft or

906
00:54:55,560 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: other entities or Jerry Jones that had other business empires

907
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 1: that gave us a source of revenue beyond our NFL team.

908
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 2: We're unlike that.

909
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 1: Our source of revenue is our NFL team. So if

910
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:15,879
Speaker 1: in order to pay some sort of attax, lean we

911
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 1: want to sell Let's just say, for example, forty nine

912
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: percent of the franchise, and that's an astronomical number. But

913
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: for the sake of the discussion here, okay, does that

914
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 1: then mean that whoever has the forty nine percent owner?

915
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 1: One guy comes along or gal and buys forty nine

916
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 1: percent of the Indianapolis Colts. Are they now the majority

917
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,919
Speaker 1: owner because they own forty nine percent and the three

918
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: daughters ownership now is seventeen percent each? Or did the

919
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 1: three daughters collectively go into something that's at fifty one percent?

920
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 5: That is a great question. I do not know the answer.

921
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 5: It's not something I considered. I would imagine that. In fact,

922
00:55:56,400 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 5: I know they employ a lot of lawyers, and no,

923
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 5: no decision like that would be made until, you know,

924
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 5: without without them understanding the ramifications. I will tell you this,

925
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 5: there is every intention, as far as I can tell,

926
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 5: as far as I know and from everything I've ever

927
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 5: been told, whatever that worth, there there is a clear

928
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 5: intention that that the team will stay in the family

929
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:29,360
Speaker 5: even beyond this generation. I do is right that that

930
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 5: could change, but but I'm just telling you I know

931
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,280
Speaker 5: that that's the intent. So I as such, I would

932
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 5: imagine and I would have to assume that things were

933
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 5: structured in a way to ensure that happened. There there

934
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 5: are very many, many, many clever things you can do

935
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 5: from a tax perspective, from a from a legal perspective,

936
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,439
Speaker 5: to protect yourself. And and I know Jim Mersey had

937
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 5: lawyers that he employed, in fact, in some cases for

938
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 5: many many decades, the same lawyers, and they're very good

939
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:57,800
Speaker 5: at their jobs.

940
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 1: Okay, So with all of that said, and I will

941
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 1: admit this is something that I will probably revisit until

942
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: we have some sort of absolute certainty on it from

943
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 1: time to time because I find it fascinating.

944
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm the only one that does.

945
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 1: But with all of that said, it is my I'm

946
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 1: not gonna say belief, but I can't rule out the

947
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: possible theory. Stephen, As we head into the NFL Owner's Meeting,

948
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 1: Stephen Holder my guest Java House Colbrew Coffee guest line.

949
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: He is on ESPN of course, in at ESPN dot com.

950
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 1: As we go into this and we look at what

951
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 1: the Colts did in the off season, and yes they

952
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 1: took care of their own that's always been a Chris

953
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 1: Ballard priority, but they haven't necessarily like revamped the roster.

954
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 1: Is it possible that Chris Ballard kind of got an

955
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:53,439
Speaker 1: extra year there because Carli orse Gordon and her two

956
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 1: sisters essentially said to themselves, this is the year where

957
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: we have to make sure that we have the business

958
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 1: aspect of all a loose ends tied up, and then

959
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 1: next year we'll start reallying in, really starting to inventory

960
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 1: the football aspect of it.

961
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 5: So if you mean from a from a from a

962
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:17,439
Speaker 5: financial perspective to some degrees that what kind of what you're.

963
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 1: Year one, we're worrying about the business aspect of it

964
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 1: and and making sure that all that everything's tied up

965
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 1: with that, then we'll start worrying about wins and losses.

966
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 5: Well, I would say I would I would say this,

967
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 5: They they definitely had a lot on their plates for

968
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 5: the past year, right, I mean obviously, okay, obviously, Uh,

969
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 5: they're just just adapting to life without their father. Forget

970
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 5: about the Colts, right, I mean this, you know, the

971
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 5: family dealing with that and the fallout which which is

972
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 5: massive of course, right, so that we know whether that

973
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 5: had any ruins on football decisions. I'm skeptical of that.

974
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 5: And here's why, because I think at the end of

975
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 5: the day, there was nothing. I don't think money really

976
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 5: precludes them from I don't think money is a big

977
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 5: factor in whether you make a change at head coach

978
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 5: and here or GM And here's why. For example, and

979
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 5: I'm not saying you're suggesting this, but I'm just giving

980
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 5: people my take on this. If you are going to

981
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:29,479
Speaker 5: make a change in the front office and coach, yes,

982
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,959
Speaker 5: that will cost you multiple millions of dollars. I would

983
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 5: argue on the other side, even gave Daniel Jones forty

984
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 5: four freaking million dollars. Who cares? Right, So they get

985
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 5: a check every year from the NFL guarantee. They get

986
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 5: a check for like four hundred million dollars. And that's

987
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 5: before they even sell one ad in Lucas Oil Stadium

988
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 5: or you know, one business relationship is me right, I

989
00:59:56,080 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 5: mean that's excluding all the local revenue. So they're making

990
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 5: an untold number of millions of dollars in revenue every

991
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 5: single year. I would I would argue that firing a

992
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 5: head coach and GM is like toilet paper. I'm not

993
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 5: kidding you. It doesn't mean anything financially.

994
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 2: The difference being toilet paper you can always just get

995
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 2: your ex hotel stop, right, I guess you can with

996
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 2: a coach in a GM too. Have you ever done that?

997
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 2: Do you ever? Good? But let me ask you, do

998
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 2: you ever? Do you? Have you ever? Stephen? Be honest.

999
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 1: Now you've already outed where where it is that you stay,

1000
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 1: so I don't want those people coming after you. But

1001
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 1: have you ever just gone ahead and considered that the

1002
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 1: role of toilet paper that's in the room is part

1003
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 1: of the room costs, and so therefore you might as

1004
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 1: well take it home?

1005
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 5: Well, look, I will say this, and this is going

1006
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 5: to make me sound like, you know, an East Coast

1007
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 5: elite here, but I'm very particular about toilet paper, and

1008
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 5: so I figured, look.

1009
01:00:58,000 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 2: I work hard.

1010
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 5: I work hard, Okay, So like if we're gonna if

1011
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 5: I'm gonna bring toilet if I'm gonna splurs on anything,

1012
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:06,439
Speaker 5: I'm splurising on toilet paper.

1013
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 2: I've earned that.

1014
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 5: So my point is I have a very high standard,

1015
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 5: and generally speaking, the hotel toilet paper is this kind

1016
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 5: of average.

1017
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 2: Now, I'm not gonna lie to you.

1018
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 1: If you were ever to if anybody was ever to

1019
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 1: be like a weekend guest at my place, they might

1020
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 1: notice that they've got their pick of eight different towels

1021
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 1: with different logos on it that look relatively familiar from

1022
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 1: accommodation places of their past.

1023
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 5: That's all, okay, So all right, I'm glad you went there,

1024
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 5: Colas because my wife we went to a very nice

1025
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 5: resort in Florida one time and this woman insisted, and

1026
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 5: you've met her, she insisted, we're taking these towels home.

1027
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 2: I was like, you did do that? Did they write

1028
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 2: that into the room costs? Do you think?

1029
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1030
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 2: Did you do it?

1031
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 4: Though?

1032
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 2: Did you take the towels?

1033
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 5: They're in my living closet now.

1034
01:01:55,760 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 2: Of course they're amazing, yeah, of course right now. When

1035
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 2: Jordan retired from the Bulls owls.

1036
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 5: But they're they're like white, like bathroom towels, but they're

1037
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 5: like the size of beach towels, and.

1038
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 2: The thickness is amazing. I mean, I'm not gonna lie, okay.

1039
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 5: I have never purchased a towel comparable.

1040
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 1: When Jordan retired from the Bulls for the final time,

1041
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 1: Dave First and I went up to Chicago to cover

1042
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 1: it for Channel six on a whim really and we

1043
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 1: got there late at night and they put us up

1044
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 1: in a really nice hotel and we got back and

1045
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 1: like three days later, the guy from you know, one

1046
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 1: of the guy that crunches the numbers the bean counter

1047
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 1: at Channel six comes in and says, hey, which one

1048
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 1: of you guys had the twelve dollars bag of Eminem's

1049
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 1: and which one of you actually grabbed the robe? And first,

1050
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 1: I kid you not. Dave First did not know that

1051
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 1: the robe was not complimentary. We had to send the

1052
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 1: rope back. It was like three hundred dollars.

1053
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:50,439
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

1054
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 1: He literally he's like I thought the rope came to

1055
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 1: the room, Like no, no, no, this was our first

1056
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 1: venture and to find, you know, staying in places like that.

1057
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 2: But anyway, uh wow, lastly Steve and here we go hotels. Man,

1058
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 2: you know it was.

1059
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll tell you it was a nice place.

1060
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 1: Because they sent us up last minute. They literally sent

1061
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 1: a press conference. I will tell you this. They sent

1062
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 1: an email that day that said, like there's a press

1063
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 1: conference tomorrow at eleven am for Michael Jordan. Like media

1064
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 1: wishing to attend, need to be at the United Center

1065
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 1: by like nine am, and we they sent the press

1066
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 1: conference release at like eight o'clock at night. So at

1067
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 1: the last minute, we're like, we're going to go cover it.

1068
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 1: So they put us up in a hotel the only

1069
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 1: room they could find, which was a nice one, the one. Now,

1070
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 1: I shouldn't admit this, Stephen, I shouldn't admit this, but

1071
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 1: I will admit it here, okay. And I want you

1072
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 1: to tell me if you find this to be mischievous

1073
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 1: or genius. Okay, I think the Statute of Limitations is

1074
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 1: up on this. And besides, your a hotel tal thief,

1075
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 1: So what does it matter?

1076
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 4: Uh?

1077
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 2: So we get to that's right, that's true.

1078
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 1: So we get to the United Center at like eight

1079
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 1: in the morning for the Jordan press conference. Were the

1080
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 1: first two people in this line of they said, like

1081
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 1: the first two hundred media members and that's it.

1082
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 2: So there's this line.

1083
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 1: Nay and I walk in with the first two there

1084
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 1: because we got there like very early in the morning.

1085
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 1: We walk in, the guy says, here's your press credential.

1086
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 1: If you go around the corner, there are boxes with

1087
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:20,440
Speaker 1: press releases. So I go around the corner. There's a

1088
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 1: press release beautiful Bulls stationary embossed and it says the

1089
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan press release, and it's got all the information

1090
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 1: about Jordan's retirement, and it's got I mean the Bulls letterhead.

1091
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 1: I mean, it's super nice stationary. I look around for

1092
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 1: the first two people in there. I took two of

1093
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 1: the press releases. I grabbed the box, I walked around

1094
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 1: to a dumpster and threw them away. So I'm fairly

1095
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 1: convinced that I have the only two press releases of

1096
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's retirement from the Chicago Bulls.

1097
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 2: Now is this mischievous or genius? That's amazing? That is

1098
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 2: devious as hell? But I respect it.

1099
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I was young, right. I would not do

1100
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 1: that today. I would not do that today. But I

1101
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:00,280
Speaker 1: was like twenty five years old.

1102
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 2: I didn't know.

1103
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 1: It's almost like, I mean, I knew better, I guess,

1104
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 1: but you know what I mean, would never do that today.

1105
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 2: Responsibility I don't.

1106
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:09,680
Speaker 5: I won't take responsibility for anything I did before the

1107
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 5: age of thirty.

1108
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I probably should admit that on the radio, but

1109
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 1: I do have them framed in my house. Okay, Final four,

1110
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 1: Who you got oh man.

1111
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 5: Well, Uh, this is a bad question to ask me

1112
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 5: because I've been a bad cause basketball fan this year.

1113
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 2: But I don't know.

1114
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 5: I don't, I don't look, I'm not I'm not saying

1115
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 5: this because because I'm I'm bitter, but I don't. I

1116
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 5: don't think Purdue gets there. Sorry, Duke is? I think

1117
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 5: Duke is Duke should be there, But I'm gonna say

1118
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with Duke. But I'm I'm they're giving

1119
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 5: me pause, reason for pause? Who else we got here?

1120
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 2: Uh? Is Arizona gonna make it?

1121
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 5: You think I don't.

1122
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 1: Know Arizona would have to get Well, I mean Arizona's

1123
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:00,120
Speaker 1: in produce region. So if you think Produce not going

1124
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 1: to make it, then then you must think Arozona's going to.

1125
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 5: I'm bringing up my bracket here. Excuse me, I mean

1126
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 5: Yukon looks great. And then, uh, what's what's the other

1127
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 5: I'm looking at?

1128
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 2: I'm getting the right.

1129
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 1: Don't sleep on Florida or excuse me, I'm not Florida.

1130
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:18,920
Speaker 1: Don't sleep on Houston. Florida's already gotten beat. Don't sleep

1131
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 1: on Houston.

1132
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 5: Right, No, I like that, I'm looking. I'm like I'm

1133
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:23,440
Speaker 5: trying to make sure I got the right bracket, I

1134
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 5: mean the right regions and all that.

1135
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 2: You know, I don't want to give like that. So

1136
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 2: Michigan you like Michigan Peasable. I like them, Yeah, I

1137
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 2: like them.

1138
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, they're they're big, they're you know,

1139
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 5: they've got they've got some skill. So yeah, I mean,

1140
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 5: I don't know, I'm not I'm not the guy to

1141
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 5: ask on this, but but yeah, I would say Yukon

1142
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 5: though Yukon is is is a team I don't want

1143
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:45,919
Speaker 5: to play.

1144
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 1: Nobody cares about your bracket, but I'm going to tell

1145
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 1: you mine because it's up on one oh seven five

1146
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 1: the fan dot Com and our bracket challenge. I had

1147
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 1: Yukon Houston Purdue in Michigan. So I'm still in play, baby,

1148
01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 1: still in play, and I'm looking.

1149
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 5: For that's saying something, you know. Two weeks, I mean

1150
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 5: a full weekend.

1151
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:07,440
Speaker 2: Arkansas is going to shock Arizona. Who pig suey.

1152
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 1: There's my pick for you, all right, Owners meetings get

1153
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 1: underway when Steven.

1154
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 5: Uh Sunday, so we'll be out there. I'll be out

1155
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 5: there Saturday night and then we'll be you know, buzzing around,

1156
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 5: bothering people on on Sunday and Sunday, Monday, Tuesday for

1157
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 5: the most part, So hoping to hear from all the

1158
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 5: colts of brass and yeah, so what they have to

1159
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 5: say and what has happened and what is to come

1160
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:37,560
Speaker 5: in the next weeks and months.

1161
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 1: All right, we will look for the coverage of at

1162
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 1: ESPN dot com A pleasure as always, Steven, all right,

1163
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 1: you got Stephen Holder joining us on the Java House

1164
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 1: Coldbrew Coffee guest line. Probably should have admitted that about

1165
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 1: the press release, but it is pretty cool. Did you

1166
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:52,919
Speaker 1: happen to see Eddie the one time he came over

1167
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 1: on on boo duty? Did you happen to see the

1168
01:07:55,080 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 1: Jordan sign or the press releases, the frame press?

1169
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 2: Yeah? I did, really? Uh huh? They're in my bedroom.

1170
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 2: What were you doing in my bedroom?

1171
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 3: You told me I could walk around the entire place,

1172
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 3: So I was just looking at all the different things

1173
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 3: you had hung up.

1174
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 1: Which, by the way, you're one of like eight people

1175
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:15,440
Speaker 1: that have ever seen most of that.

1176
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 2: I have all this stuff, and I'm like, why nobody

1177
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 2: ever sees any of it? Right?

1178
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 1: Just random stuff hanging all over the place. What's the

1179
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 1: most random thing you have hanging inside your residence or

1180
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:28,720
Speaker 1: like your your favorite thing, you know, the old thing,

1181
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:31,759
Speaker 1: Like the house is on fire and the the people

1182
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 1: in pets are out.

1183
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 2: What are you going in and saving? That's a great question.

1184
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:35,760
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1185
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 3: I don't really have a lot of stuff hung up.

1186
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:41,640
Speaker 3: That's a good one. Are you fired up for Opening day?

1187
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 4: Though?

1188
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 3: Oh, don't get me started working on John Sadak for tomorrow?

1189
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:50,559
Speaker 2: You're fired up? Huh? Yes? Call it right now? World

1190
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 2: Series who.

1191
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:55,479
Speaker 3: Oh Man Dodgers and American League is kind of a

1192
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 3: toss up. I think it's I mean, it's obviously the

1193
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:00,720
Speaker 3: Dodger Soldiers, right, I.

1194
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 1: Mean, obviously it's incredible the amount of talent on that rock.

1195
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 1: And you know what I've said before. If you go

1196
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 1: to a Dodgers game in Dodger Stadium and you walk

1197
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 1: around and you go through just the hallways and the

1198
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 1: everything they have hanging up in there, and you Chavez

1199
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 1: ravine and the palm trees out in the athlete it's

1200
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 1: the cleanliness of the uniforms. The Dodgers may be the

1201
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 1: most likable team and franchise that otherwise have every reason

1202
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:40,439
Speaker 1: to be unlikable. Typically when franchises are that dominant and

1203
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 1: they win that much and they spend that much, and

1204
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 1: you don't like them. But I look at the Dodgers

1205
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:52,080
Speaker 1: most franchises. If the Yankees, which they do, spend that

1206
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 1: kind of money, you're like, yeah, I mean it's just

1207
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 1: ridiculous the rich getting richer. But the Dodgers, it's like, hey,

1208
01:09:57,479 --> 01:09:59,639
Speaker 1: you know what, kudos to the Dodgers for being committed

1209
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:03,639
Speaker 1: to winning. And the Yankees have good uniforms, but the Dodgers.

1210
01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 1: Something about that royal blue and the clean white and

1211
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 1: just the the crisp, clean air look of Dodger Stadium.

1212
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like every time the Yankees are playing

1213
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 1: in the postseason, it's you know, it's cold and gray

1214
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 1: and damp, and Dodger Stadium is just everything about it's perfect.

1215
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 2: Now you probably hate the Dodgers, right, Eddie, because you're

1216
01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:25,720
Speaker 2: a Reds fan.

1217
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't like the Dodgers, but at this point, but.

1218
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 2: They don't break out like the hatred in you, right.

1219
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 3: No, it's more I have more hatred towards the other

1220
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 3: teams in Major League Baseball that aren't willing to spend

1221
01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:45,680
Speaker 3: the money and they end up allowing the Dodgers to

1222
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:48,600
Speaker 3: build this super team. Okay, fair, it's more it's more

1223
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 3: or less of owners in baseball being cheap and unwilling

1224
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 3: to pay players, and they get the opportunity to leave.

1225
01:10:54,560 --> 01:11:00,560
Speaker 1: The biggest culprits in that Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh, Kansas City Athletics,

1226
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 1: the Reds Kansas City.

1227
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 3: Although Kansas City has done a terrific job with their

1228
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:07,639
Speaker 3: farm system in drafting and developing players.

1229
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 2: Like Minnesota.

1230
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 3: Minnesota, they were on the brink of making the playoffs

1231
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 3: a year ago, and at the trade deadline they entirely

1232
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 3: decided to blow.

1233
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:18,360
Speaker 2: Up the team.

1234
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:20,639
Speaker 3: But in terms of the come out of the American League,

1235
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:22,639
Speaker 3: I think it's the Boston Red Sox this year.

1236
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:25,680
Speaker 2: Okay. I could see that.

1237
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:27,840
Speaker 3: They had a good year last year. They added a

1238
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 3: couple of pitchers in that starting rotation. They were relatively

1239
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 3: young in the lineup yesterday, lose Alex Bregman, but he

1240
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:37,080
Speaker 3: was out for most of the season last year. I

1241
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 3: like what they've got and I think they could be

1242
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 3: a sneaky good team.

1243
01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 2: What about my al team? They got a shot? Uh, hey,

1244
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:47,080
Speaker 2: root for me? What you're talking about? That's cute, fellow,

1245
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 2: that's the Orioles. I don't know if you were talking

1246
01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 2: about cute fella the more aggressive bird. I mean, yeah,

1247
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:54,760
Speaker 2: I mean they're running back pretty much the entirety of

1248
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:57,080
Speaker 2: the last year's roster. It's just gonna be.

1249
01:11:57,400 --> 01:12:00,720
Speaker 3: They added Dylan Cease just to a matter of time

1250
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 3: before Shane Bieber's healthy.

1251
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:04,599
Speaker 2: They'll have a really good Yeah, but the three four

1252
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:06,760
Speaker 2: of presumed the ACE is going to start out on

1253
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:07,520
Speaker 2: the IR.

1254
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 3: Though Kevin Gosman's on the IR he's their ace. My opinion,

1255
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 3: the postseason ace, oh Trey is savage. Yes, I mean

1256
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:18,960
Speaker 3: he's still young. We need to see what he can

1257
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:19,920
Speaker 3: do over the course of the season.

1258
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:23,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, and we see this a lot in the postseason.

1259
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:27,640
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's fools gold because you get a picture that

1260
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 1: comes in in the postseason and looks lights out and

1261
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 1: you realize it's only because pitcher or batters have not

1262
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 1: seen them a lot over the regular season. Then once

1263
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 1: they cycle through and they've they've done it a couple

1264
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:38,920
Speaker 1: of times, you know what I mean.

1265
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:40,360
Speaker 2: I'm fascinated to see how they.

1266
01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 3: Rings effect how they replace the offensive production of Bobashett

1267
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:46,200
Speaker 3: that that's also very fair because he had such a

1268
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 3: career year last year for them.

1269
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 2: He did. He was a timely hitter, no question about it. Timely,

1270
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 2: timely hitter.

1271
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 1: Speaking of timely, good time for something to happened last

1272
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:57,400
Speaker 1: night in Florida as it relates to Indiana.

1273
01:12:57,479 --> 01:12:58,360
Speaker 2: We'll tell you about it next.

1274
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 1: This from Corey, and I think he's pretty close on this, hey, Jake.

1275
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:13,520
Speaker 1: Corey says all of Mike Cizewski's titles came in Indianapolis.

1276
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:16,960
Speaker 1: It would seem so that would bode well for Duke.

1277
01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 1: I think that's pretty close. Let's take a look, shall we.

1278
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 1: Duke men's basketball National Championships nineteen ninety one, Yes, the

1279
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 1: first right here at the Hoosier Dome. Then and the

1280
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:40,680
Speaker 1: shocking defeat of UNLV and the semi finals, and then

1281
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 1: they defeated Kansas in the national championship game. But a

1282
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:46,680
Speaker 1: year later, in nineteen ninety two, it was Minneapolis in

1283
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 1: the Metrodome. That's when they defeated Indiana. And actually, while

1284
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:53,840
Speaker 1: we were in the break, Ted Valentine just called another

1285
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 1: whistle on Indiana in that game.

1286
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:01,960
Speaker 2: Hire, It's ridiculous.

1287
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:05,519
Speaker 3: Steven Holder texted me Jake, and he said, tell the listeners,

1288
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 3: I was reading my bracket incorrectly and gave it completely

1289
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 3: impossible Final four.

1290
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:11,800
Speaker 2: Yukon and Duke are in the same region. Don't think

1291
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 2: they can be in the final four? Yeah, I listen.

1292
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 1: I picked Connecticut just because everyone was going to pick Duke.

1293
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:21,400
Speaker 2: But it's hard to go against Duke. I get it right.

1294
01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 3: They've been one of the most consistent teams in all

1295
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 3: the college basketball.

1296
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:29,519
Speaker 1: The two thousand and one National Championship for Duke that

1297
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:32,719
Speaker 1: was not in where was two thousand and one? Twenty

1298
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:38,759
Speaker 1: ten and twenty fifteen were both Indie correct two thousand

1299
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:46,200
Speaker 1: and one, the Final four was also in Minneapolis. Twenty ten,

1300
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 1: Final four Lucas Oil two thy fifteen National Championship game. Also,

1301
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:57,240
Speaker 1: that's amazing. So he won all of them in either

1302
01:14:57,280 --> 01:15:05,439
Speaker 1: Indianapolis or Minneapolis. Mike Skshowsky pretty impressive last night, and

1303
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:09,720
Speaker 1: I mentioned this off the top of the show. When

1304
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 1: the Pacers acquired Pascal Siakam.

1305
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:14,240
Speaker 2: They were getting a.

1306
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:18,600
Speaker 1: Guy that has an unbelievable ability to score on the

1307
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:25,960
Speaker 1: low block, obviously a good defender, and just overall a

1308
01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 1: veteran leadership that brought with him an NBA title. And

1309
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:39,400
Speaker 1: when they traded for him, there was a lot of

1310
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:42,200
Speaker 1: discussion about whether or not you know, should they give

1311
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 1: him a MAX deal.

1312
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:45,080
Speaker 2: I was.

1313
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:51,639
Speaker 1: Speaking of Wisconsin that Duke defeated in that National Championship

1314
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:56,480
Speaker 1: at Lucas Oil Stadium. That Wisconsin team, of course, defeated

1315
01:15:56,720 --> 01:16:00,840
Speaker 1: the thirty eight to oh Kentucky Wildcats in the National Semifinal,

1316
01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:05,640
Speaker 1: and that big red W was all over downtown to Indianapolis,

1317
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:07,800
Speaker 1: as it should have been, and I think a lot

1318
01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:09,719
Speaker 1: of people forget there was another game to be played

1319
01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 1: after that. It's kind of like the Olympics miracle on

1320
01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 1: ice that was the semifinals, but those big red ws

1321
01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 1: all over Indianapolis were as big as the red W.

1322
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:23,679
Speaker 1: To spell out the word wrong, which I was about

1323
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 1: Pascal Siakam and giving him a max deal. It has

1324
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:30,680
Speaker 1: been a fabulous sign for the Pacers and he has

1325
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:34,920
Speaker 1: worked out perfectly. And the big thing of what he did,

1326
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:37,480
Speaker 1: and a big part of probably why he was acquired,

1327
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:41,559
Speaker 1: was when after that first season, he brought the entire

1328
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:44,360
Speaker 1: roster down to his home, which I believe is right

1329
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:48,720
Speaker 1: outside of Orlando, or at that time was and had

1330
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 1: all of them there to work out and get familiar

1331
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:54,639
Speaker 1: with one another and bond, you know, a team field

1332
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 1: trip if you will, And that went a long way

1333
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:05,240
Speaker 1: and developing this chemistry that you saw a year ago.

1334
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:09,640
Speaker 1: You just heard JMV in that promo talking about communicating

1335
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:13,800
Speaker 1: on the basketball floor, and there's something to be said

1336
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:18,559
Speaker 1: about communication on a basketball floor that isn't even verbal,

1337
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 1: where one guy could just look at another and they know.

1338
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:25,599
Speaker 1: And I watch it a lot when they run up

1339
01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:27,360
Speaker 1: at the top of the key and they're moving the

1340
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:30,679
Speaker 1: ball around and you can see one guy just glance

1341
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:33,960
Speaker 1: at the other and they automatically know. Nim Hard automatically

1342
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:38,080
Speaker 1: knows where it is that Ciacom's cutting, or Jaris Walker

1343
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:41,600
Speaker 1: automatically knows where it is that Michael Potter is going

1344
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 1: to flash across the lane. Maybe that's a bad example

1345
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:47,200
Speaker 1: because Potter wasn't there last year, but you get what

1346
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:54,840
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and that sort of just symbiotic feel for

1347
01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:58,560
Speaker 1: one another on the basketball floor is as much developed

1348
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:02,320
Speaker 1: in playing pickup game as it is just in being

1349
01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:07,200
Speaker 1: around one another all the time and just knowing you

1350
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:09,959
Speaker 1: know a lot of people. And I know this sounds crazy,

1351
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:14,679
Speaker 1: and I'm not comparing what we do to the NBA,

1352
01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:17,959
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying that we are NBA level athletes,

1353
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:21,559
Speaker 1: none of that, But it's the only thing by which

1354
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:27,200
Speaker 1: I can truly compare or relate. If you listen to

1355
01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:31,880
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis five hundred on the radio, and I'm not

1356
01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 1: this is not I'm just going by what people ask

1357
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:37,519
Speaker 1: me a lot when we do what we call the

1358
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 1: roundies and we do the laps, and people are like,

1359
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:42,920
Speaker 1: how do you know when to pick it up from

1360
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:48,599
Speaker 1: the last guy? And we have ways to do It's

1361
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:52,160
Speaker 1: very hard to hear. I have the benefit that Michael

1362
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:54,160
Speaker 1: Young throws it to me and Michael Young when he

1363
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 1: steps out of his house and talks people here at

1364
01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:56,599
Speaker 1: an el passer.

1365
01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:02,840
Speaker 2: But are they hearing it down in Barber already? Yes, But.

1366
01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:08,400
Speaker 1: They're also because Eddie, we do the race in Barber,

1367
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:11,680
Speaker 1: because we do the race in Long Beach. We are

1368
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:16,040
Speaker 1: around each other so much that you just instinctively know

1369
01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:20,000
Speaker 1: the cadence of the person that is talking, and and

1370
01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 1: you just know when they're tailing off and when it's

1371
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 1: your turn to go, and so that that natural handoff

1372
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:27,639
Speaker 1: that takes place is because we're around each.

1373
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:29,439
Speaker 2: Other all the time. It's kind of like you and me,

1374
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:31,560
Speaker 2: very similar.

1375
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:36,479
Speaker 1: In time, but the same thing I think happens in

1376
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 1: basketball and Siakama year ago, you saw the payoff of

1377
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:43,639
Speaker 1: him developing those guys together in Orlando, and last night

1378
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:47,519
Speaker 1: in Orlando, what happened was beyond just the Pacers getting

1379
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:50,920
Speaker 1: their first win since the All Star Break. It was,

1380
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:54,120
Speaker 1: as I said earlier, to quote the great Joel Cornette,

1381
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 1: it was the Pacers way of saying, we are still here.

1382
01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:02,599
Speaker 1: They won in Oklahoma City, they won in New York.

1383
01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 1: Those games were symbolic to send message to the two

1384
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 1: teams that they most obviously in the case of New

1385
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:15,200
Speaker 1: York and then Oklahoma City, different result, but their tightest

1386
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:18,920
Speaker 1: battles and their biggest battles, and last year's postseason, and

1387
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 1: this year, because they are in the gap year, and

1388
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:25,320
Speaker 1: because they're down key players and the most key and

1389
01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:28,400
Speaker 1: their engine is not there, it was important to send

1390
01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 1: the message not just to those franchises but also to

1391
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:34,920
Speaker 1: themselves to say we're still here, We still got a

1392
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:39,280
Speaker 1: little bit. Don't write us off just yet.

1393
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:45,680
Speaker 2: And this game last night was symbolic because.

1394
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:49,880
Speaker 1: They're not going to screw it up and drop out

1395
01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:53,839
Speaker 1: of contention for and alter their odds and their percented

1396
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:57,080
Speaker 1: chances of keeping that top four pick. But what they

1397
01:20:57,120 --> 01:21:02,240
Speaker 1: did do last night was proved to themselves and just

1398
01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:07,479
Speaker 1: reawaken their taste buds to that taste of important victory.

1399
01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:12,320
Speaker 1: And Pascal Siakam last night on the fan Duel television

1400
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:15,200
Speaker 1: network after the Pacers win, when he had the game

1401
01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:20,680
Speaker 1: winning block, talked with Jeremiah Johnson just about the symbolism

1402
01:21:20,720 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 1: and the understanding as a team, the significance of getting

1403
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:27,280
Speaker 1: that kind of a win at this point in the year.

1404
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:29,120
Speaker 4: We gotta get some wins, man, we gotta we gotta

1405
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:32,080
Speaker 4: keep building as a team. It's been tough. It's been

1406
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:35,439
Speaker 4: a tough year for us, man, and it shows your character.

1407
01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:38,080
Speaker 4: You know, it's gonna tess you. But that's life. So

1408
01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:41,320
Speaker 4: we're not gonna back down. We're gonna keep fighting for

1409
01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:44,559
Speaker 4: each other, to keep working, and we're just hopeful that

1410
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:46,800
Speaker 4: you know, good thing's gonna happen from us just just

1411
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:48,720
Speaker 4: go cheting to work and and not giving.

1412
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:52,040
Speaker 1: Up, good things are gonna happen. I mean, that's the

1413
01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 1: big thing here, because went on to say it that

1414
01:21:55,720 --> 01:22:00,000
Speaker 1: you can parlay last night into maybe that little boot

1415
01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:02,800
Speaker 1: you need coming off of your gap year.

1416
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:06,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's just continuing to focus on the basics.

1417
01:22:07,160 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 4: I think it's been It's like I said, I'm gonna

1418
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:10,640
Speaker 4: keep saying, it's been a hard year for us, so

1419
01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:14,640
Speaker 4: trying not to lose identity who we are, paying basketball

1420
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:17,040
Speaker 4: some of the things that I fell in love, you know,

1421
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:19,360
Speaker 4: coming here and playing for the Pacers. You know, we

1422
01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:21,519
Speaker 4: just want to keep that. Like I think it's it's

1423
01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:25,280
Speaker 4: really there's something special. So I know it's hard, and

1424
01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:27,160
Speaker 4: I think, you know, the fans have been so awesome

1425
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:30,400
Speaker 4: with us, sticking sticking with us, and I just think

1426
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:32,160
Speaker 4: that you know, it's gonna be a reward.

1427
01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:32,479
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1428
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 4: I don't know what it's gonna be yet, but I

1429
01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:35,920
Speaker 4: just know that, you know, with the fight and continue

1430
01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:38,599
Speaker 4: the work and and just con you to battle, we're

1431
01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 4: gonna get out of it.

1432
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:40,240
Speaker 2: I'm telling you.

1433
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:45,280
Speaker 1: The reward is going to be that they can get Already,

1434
01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 1: you flip mathering for zobots, but if you can flip

1435
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:51,880
Speaker 1: mathering for zobos and Mathern's replacement of off bench minutes

1436
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:57,920
Speaker 1: from whether it be de Bonsa, whether it be Wilson Boozer,

1437
01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:00,560
Speaker 1: I know people love Peterson.

1438
01:23:00,600 --> 01:23:02,000
Speaker 2: I'm still not sold.

1439
01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:05,160
Speaker 1: I feel like that's Evan Turner part duh.

1440
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:07,600
Speaker 2: But either way, either.

1441
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:10,600
Speaker 1: Way, I think last night was significant because what it

1442
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:14,080
Speaker 1: means and what it means. I know it's just one win,

1443
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 1: and I know it's just number sixteen, but what it

1444
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:20,920
Speaker 1: means is simply, when it comes down to it, don't

1445
01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:23,639
Speaker 1: forget about us, because we're still here. Did you happen

1446
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:28,080
Speaker 1: to see Eddie Jeff Teek's comments regarding the Pacers and

1447
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:28,960
Speaker 1: where they would draft.

1448
01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:34,559
Speaker 2: I did to paraphrase because it's three minutes long.

1449
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 1: He basically said that he thinks the Pacers would go

1450
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:40,880
Speaker 1: with Cam Boozer because the Bonza would be a star

1451
01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:42,880
Speaker 1: type player and Halliburton is the star.

1452
01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:43,400
Speaker 2: Right.

1453
01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:47,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, to kind of summarize it in that way, felt

1454
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:49,320
Speaker 3: like the Bonsa would be too much of like a

1455
01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:55,000
Speaker 3: diva and overtake Tyree as the team's franchise player.

1456
01:23:55,120 --> 01:24:00,559
Speaker 2: In face, Okay, what are you doing?

1457
01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 3: I mean, if you get the first pick, it's the

1458
01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:06,760
Speaker 3: whole point, right, you take the best player should be

1459
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:07,719
Speaker 3: the franchise guy.

1460
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:12,160
Speaker 2: Yes, I would think, Yeah, I'm with you. I was

1461
01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:14,360
Speaker 2: just like what I mean that, you know?

1462
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:18,360
Speaker 1: I didn't necessarily Jeff Tigue, obviously played for the franchise,

1463
01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:20,479
Speaker 1: knows a lot more about playing in the NBA than

1464
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:21,160
Speaker 1: do I but.

1465
01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:24,240
Speaker 3: I think he has some animosity and some angst towards

1466
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:27,240
Speaker 3: the Pacers based off some comments he's made in the

1467
01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:28,160
Speaker 3: last two years.

1468
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:33,960
Speaker 1: Maybe we get him on. I ran into Jeff Tigue

1469
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:36,000
Speaker 1: the night before the year he was drafted. The night

1470
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 1: before the draft, he was walking around Caston Square eating

1471
01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:38,920
Speaker 1: gummy worms?

1472
01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:41,519
Speaker 2: Are we sure there were gummy worms? They definitely were

1473
01:24:41,520 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 2: gummy worms. Yess No, like Jake gummy.

1474
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:46,680
Speaker 1: Worms they were. They were just regular gummy band Are

1475
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:51,240
Speaker 1: we sure? Long conversation with him. I like Jeff Tigue

1476
01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:54,759
Speaker 1: a lot. Jeff Tigue. I recall when I was giving

1477
01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 1: out the Channel six Star of the Week award. There

1478
01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:00,439
Speaker 1: was one particular week where I'm like, what about this

1479
01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:01,479
Speaker 1: Jeff Teague hit a pike.

1480
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:04,840
Speaker 2: He's averaging like sixteen game. They're waiting number one, and.

1481
01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:07,559
Speaker 1: Then he went to Wake and We're like, okay, they're

1482
01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:10,200
Speaker 1: Wake is right number one and boom He's off and

1483
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:14,720
Speaker 1: running and ran into him. It was funny. I was

1484
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:18,280
Speaker 1: with Shannon, we were in the mall. We run into

1485
01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:21,040
Speaker 1: Jeff Tigue and I recognized.

1486
01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:22,080
Speaker 2: Him just from you know, working at six and he

1487
01:25:22,120 --> 01:25:23,600
Speaker 2: was only three years we move from high school at

1488
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:25,840
Speaker 2: that time, and I.

1489
01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 1: Said, hey, do you have any idea of where you're

1490
01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:29,320
Speaker 1: going to be drafted? And he said, well, I had

1491
01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:33,720
Speaker 1: a really good meeting with the Knicks. Shannon didn't say

1492
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:36,640
Speaker 1: a word.

1493
01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:39,160
Speaker 3: Okay, shot out to having Cheryl and Cluster Truff. We're

1494
01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:41,840
Speaker 3: bringing us our lunch today, Jake. I went with the

1495
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:47,000
Speaker 3: chicken strips because although the dunk Fest is not going

1496
01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:51,280
Speaker 3: on today, it is something that does contain the chicken strips.

1497
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:53,840
Speaker 3: You get two pounds of chicken strips, cheesy bread, chips,

1498
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:57,599
Speaker 3: and Caeso chruros, all for forty bucks. And when you

1499
01:25:57,600 --> 01:25:59,760
Speaker 3: go to check out, make sure you use code big Fan.

1500
01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:03,160
Speaker 3: You get five dollars off of that order. Any day

1501
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:07,559
Speaker 3: that there is a college men or women's tournament game

1502
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:08,240
Speaker 3: going on.

1503
01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:11,800
Speaker 1: So it picks back up tomorrow. And he brought me

1504
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:14,200
Speaker 1: some hummus. Jamie was talking about the hummus yesterday. Brought

1505
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:16,920
Speaker 1: me some hummuses. Not tomorrow, I believe it's Thursday, but yes.

1506
01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 1: He overheard you and John yesterday.

1507
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:22,640
Speaker 3: Talking about Jamv's love for the hummus and you said, oh,

1508
01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:24,800
Speaker 3: I gotta try that, and so he was like, you

1509
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:26,840
Speaker 3: know what, I'll put some pita bread in there with

1510
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:28,920
Speaker 3: some of that hummus and I'll let Jake try it.

1511
01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:30,080
Speaker 2: I will try it here.

1512
01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:33,800
Speaker 1: Shortly I asked this earlier Eddie I was staring at

1513
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:36,000
Speaker 1: and thank you to Evan and Cluster Truck's the very best.

1514
01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:40,920
Speaker 2: Obviously. Last night after the Pacers game, I got to thinking,

1515
01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:49,439
Speaker 2: and this is trulippery slope.

1516
01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:50,320
Speaker 1: Like slipping slide you had as a kid, right, I know, right?

1517
01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:57,120
Speaker 1: I got to thinking about this and most and I

1518
01:26:57,160 --> 01:27:04,040
Speaker 1: think that nostalgia comes into play here. But most teams

1519
01:27:04,160 --> 01:27:08,320
Speaker 1: when they redo their color scheme and their their logo,

1520
01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:16,040
Speaker 1: they rebrand most of them. It makes you thirst for

1521
01:27:16,120 --> 01:27:22,080
Speaker 1: the original color scheme and logo. Usually when they redo it,

1522
01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:26,599
Speaker 1: you're like, nah, I like the other one better, very

1523
01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:29,639
Speaker 1: s And there's an element of marketing genius to it,

1524
01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:33,559
Speaker 1: because then you sell more of the new stuff. You

1525
01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:38,240
Speaker 1: wait a couple of years, you bring back, like unlimited

1526
01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:41,120
Speaker 1: release the old logo, and people go, God got crazy

1527
01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 1: over it, right, Yeah.

1528
01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:46,240
Speaker 3: Although I think there were two teams that redid their

1529
01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:51,679
Speaker 3: their logos and everything recently that I think are better

1530
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:52,799
Speaker 3: than the original.

1531
01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:56,280
Speaker 2: Okay, you think they're better? That give me the league

1532
01:27:56,479 --> 01:28:03,720
Speaker 2: one NFL and one minor LEA. Oh the Indians. Yes, yeah,

1533
01:28:04,280 --> 01:28:06,360
Speaker 2: the Indians is pretty strong. They start the third season

1534
01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:07,800
Speaker 2: Friday night at Victory Field.

1535
01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:10,560
Speaker 1: It's now, do they do they still do the temperature

1536
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:12,400
Speaker 1: opening day challenge?

1537
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:15,599
Speaker 3: I'm sure they're going to it's a sixty degree challenge, right,

1538
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:16,760
Speaker 3: it's a staple with them.

1539
01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, i'd have to look.

1540
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:20,439
Speaker 1: If it's not sixty degrees, you get tickets for a

1541
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:25,040
Speaker 1: later time, right yeah. Okay, So you say you're saying

1542
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:29,719
Speaker 1: there's an NFL team that you feel redid their stuff.

1543
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:36,559
Speaker 2: Yep? How recently did they redo it this off season? Oh? Really? Yes?

1544
01:28:37,160 --> 01:28:40,559
Speaker 2: I did I miss this? There's a chance.

1545
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:44,400
Speaker 1: So there's a team that has a new look, new logo,

1546
01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:47,559
Speaker 1: new et cetera, and you like it better than the

1547
01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:48,400
Speaker 1: old variation?

1548
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:49,120
Speaker 5: Hm?

1549
01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:57,519
Speaker 2: Is the logo different? Guess it is? Is the logo anything?

1550
01:28:57,760 --> 01:29:02,160
Speaker 2: Has it been used before? Kind of the Jets? No

1551
01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:07,800
Speaker 2: hit me? The Tennessee Titans. I did not see the

1552
01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:09,400
Speaker 2: oh no way minute? Maybe I did?

1553
01:29:09,439 --> 01:29:13,240
Speaker 1: Hold on, it's kind of across with the Oilers, right, Yes,

1554
01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:15,600
Speaker 1: it's more of the baby.

1555
01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:18,559
Speaker 3: Blue, baby blue in the middle and three stars.

1556
01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:23,880
Speaker 2: Okay, that's not bad, but I thought about the Pacers.

1557
01:29:24,360 --> 01:29:26,559
Speaker 3: Now, how would the Cleveland Browns redo their logo. As

1558
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:28,320
Speaker 3: a question, I'll go back to the Elf.

1559
01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:28,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1560
01:29:29,960 --> 01:29:36,839
Speaker 1: I thought about the Pacers, and I love the original

1561
01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:39,519
Speaker 1: Pacers logo. I love it, I love the colors, I

1562
01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:44,880
Speaker 1: love everything about it. But in reality, when they went

1563
01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:48,000
Speaker 1: to the Flow Joe's is when everything turned around for them.

1564
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:52,479
Speaker 1: They redid their their logo and their color. They went

1565
01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:54,840
Speaker 1: from the kind of the royal blue and gold into

1566
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:58,880
Speaker 1: the more navy type blue and gold, and then the

1567
01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:04,120
Speaker 1: moving basketball inside of the p right around ninety three,

1568
01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:06,679
Speaker 1: ninety two or ninety three, and that's right when they

1569
01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:10,880
Speaker 1: took off, and of course then the ninety four season

1570
01:30:10,920 --> 01:30:16,639
Speaker 1: and the rest is history. What franchises can you think

1571
01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:24,280
Speaker 1: of that underwent a logo brand change in professional sports

1572
01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:26,800
Speaker 1: and it actually turned around the fortune of the franchise.

1573
01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:29,639
Speaker 2: Because there are.

1574
01:30:29,479 --> 01:30:32,640
Speaker 1: Some that you're like, yeah, I mean, the Marlins have

1575
01:30:32,720 --> 01:30:36,439
Speaker 1: had fifteen different logos and color schemes in the last

1576
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:39,360
Speaker 1: fifteen years, and they're like, it's still the Marlins, right.

1577
01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:41,519
Speaker 3: Obviously, the jets OF's on it, but it hasn't brought

1578
01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:42,800
Speaker 3: good fortune recently.

1579
01:30:44,160 --> 01:30:46,360
Speaker 1: There are a couple that jumped to mine to me,

1580
01:30:46,479 --> 01:30:49,000
Speaker 1: and I'm like, the Pacers being one of them Washington,

1581
01:30:51,160 --> 01:30:51,800
Speaker 1: the Commanders.

1582
01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:53,280
Speaker 2: See.

1583
01:30:53,560 --> 01:30:55,719
Speaker 1: I wouldn't go there though, because they had the greatest

1584
01:30:55,720 --> 01:30:58,880
Speaker 1: fortune as a franchise back when they were still the Redskins.

1585
01:30:59,280 --> 01:31:02,680
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, the.

1586
01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:09,920
Speaker 1: Buccaneers, I mean the the cream Sickles are awesome and

1587
01:31:09,960 --> 01:31:15,639
Speaker 1: Bucco Bruce is awesome. But also those were the years

1588
01:31:15,680 --> 01:31:18,000
Speaker 1: of the greatest futility in NFL.

1589
01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:19,800
Speaker 2: History, the Rams.

1590
01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:22,360
Speaker 1: The Rams will be won when the Rams went to

1591
01:31:22,439 --> 01:31:25,559
Speaker 1: the Saint Louis Rams and the Gold you know, they

1592
01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:28,200
Speaker 1: had the gold helmets and the greatest show on turf.

1593
01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:32,240
Speaker 1: That was their peak. I mean, they had some good

1594
01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:34,479
Speaker 1: years in LA, don't get me wrong, and they obviously

1595
01:31:34,479 --> 01:31:39,160
Speaker 1: are good now, but the Rams will be another I

1596
01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:41,759
Speaker 1: also thought of this one, and this franchise was good,

1597
01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:46,040
Speaker 1: but they didn't win the Super Bowl until they switched.

1598
01:31:46,120 --> 01:31:47,840
Speaker 2: And that's the Broncos.

1599
01:31:48,880 --> 01:31:51,320
Speaker 1: Once the Broncos, and I think a lot of people

1600
01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:59,240
Speaker 1: prefer the old Bronco helmets. But their greatest success has

1601
01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:00,519
Speaker 1: come since they now.

1602
01:32:00,680 --> 01:32:02,760
Speaker 3: Now, can the reds go back to the logo they

1603
01:32:02,840 --> 01:32:05,320
Speaker 3: used to have? Maybe it brings that.

1604
01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:10,320
Speaker 1: Are you talking about, mister Red in the running motion? Yes,

1605
01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:13,479
Speaker 1: it's the greatest, Yes, it's the greatest, But that was

1606
01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:16,320
Speaker 1: never their primary logo though, right, I mean, their logo

1607
01:32:16,360 --> 01:32:18,840
Speaker 1: has always been. Where the Reds got in trouble is

1608
01:32:18,920 --> 01:32:23,040
Speaker 1: when they went away from just the standard sea and

1609
01:32:23,120 --> 01:32:25,920
Speaker 1: they did the black bordering on the background of it.

1610
01:32:26,320 --> 01:32:32,120
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. The dolphins are a good example, there is. Yeah,

1611
01:32:32,200 --> 01:32:34,840
Speaker 2: mister Red with the sea.

1612
01:32:35,040 --> 01:32:38,240
Speaker 3: Is that the one you're talking about? Okay, mister Red himself, Yeah,

1613
01:32:38,280 --> 01:32:40,120
Speaker 3: the mister Red with him running was seventy two to

1614
01:32:40,240 --> 01:32:40,679
Speaker 3: ninety two.

1615
01:32:41,240 --> 01:32:44,479
Speaker 1: But that was never on the hat, That's what I'm saying.

1616
01:32:45,479 --> 01:32:46,960
Speaker 1: I mean, it was the logo, but it was never

1617
01:32:47,000 --> 01:32:49,479
Speaker 1: on the hat. It was never the main primary logo.

1618
01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:52,000
Speaker 1: The main primary logo was still on the hat was

1619
01:32:52,040 --> 01:32:56,720
Speaker 1: the sea. Now the dolphins. The dolphins had think about this.

1620
01:32:57,520 --> 01:33:00,560
Speaker 1: You had a little fella that was jumping through a

1621
01:33:00,600 --> 01:33:04,240
Speaker 1: hoop and even while jumping through the hoop, had the

1622
01:33:04,280 --> 01:33:08,080
Speaker 1: presence of mind to wear a helmet. Now that just

1623
01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:11,400
Speaker 1: the thought process alone in the brilliance of the dolph,

1624
01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:12,679
Speaker 1: the jumping dolphin.

1625
01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:14,840
Speaker 2: Now that guy's jumping with a.

1626
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:18,120
Speaker 1: Porpoise, right, And yet they did away with that into

1627
01:33:18,160 --> 01:33:21,479
Speaker 1: this flipper looking thing, and they've been terrible ever since.

1628
01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:25,679
Speaker 2: So it's a slippery slope to use your term.

1629
01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:28,519
Speaker 3: Right now, Jake, I got a question me. I know,

1630
01:33:28,560 --> 01:33:31,200
Speaker 3: we got a tight here. We have a minute.

1631
01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:34,480
Speaker 2: Did you see the story in the news yesterday.

1632
01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:37,360
Speaker 3: I saw a lot of stories in the news yesterday

1633
01:33:37,360 --> 01:33:38,559
Speaker 3: about the cornhole player.

1634
01:33:39,120 --> 01:33:40,559
Speaker 2: I did a lot of questions about that.

1635
01:33:40,680 --> 01:33:45,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, quadruple amputee cornhole player accused of fatally shooting a

1636
01:33:45,400 --> 01:33:46,479
Speaker 3: man while driving.

1637
01:33:50,080 --> 01:33:54,320
Speaker 2: How did he shoot him? Because he's a great question. Well,

1638
01:33:54,360 --> 01:34:02,320
Speaker 2: he was unarmed, right, I mean, I'm not I'm just

1639
01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:04,439
Speaker 2: being I mean, let's be.

1640
01:34:04,439 --> 01:34:09,400
Speaker 1: Real here, right, How is he driving? Also a good

1641
01:34:09,560 --> 01:34:13,840
Speaker 1: quicker question. Also, do they have a mug shout of

1642
01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:20,360
Speaker 1: the individual? Did you say a quadruple amputee? Yeah, and

1643
01:34:20,560 --> 01:34:24,639
Speaker 1: he and he fired a weapon. This was in Maryland?

1644
01:34:26,240 --> 01:34:27,240
Speaker 1: Do they have now?

1645
01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:30,120
Speaker 2: Is he a former cornhole champion?

1646
01:34:33,080 --> 01:34:35,000
Speaker 1: There are a lot of question marks about this story,

1647
01:34:35,080 --> 01:34:43,240
Speaker 1: right twenty seven years old Dayton James Webber Okay, yeah,

1648
01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:45,479
Speaker 1: I saw the headline of that. I didn't read the story.

1649
01:34:45,640 --> 01:34:52,880
Speaker 1: I was like many perplexed. Mercifully Scott agnesfield House Files

1650
01:34:52,960 --> 01:34:56,760
Speaker 1: joins us. Next, Eddie, you know what we have not

1651
01:34:56,840 --> 01:34:59,240
Speaker 1: done in quite some time, and we're going to revisit

1652
01:34:59,280 --> 01:35:00,920
Speaker 1: it here and here here's how we're going to do this.

1653
01:35:01,240 --> 01:35:04,240
Speaker 2: Oh boy, we are going to go.

1654
01:35:04,160 --> 01:35:09,320
Speaker 1: To the Java House Colbrew Coffee guest line, and I'm

1655
01:35:09,360 --> 01:35:12,600
Speaker 1: going to allow Scott Agnes from Fieldhouse Files to complete.

1656
01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:15,160
Speaker 1: What we're gonna do is I'm going to do this

1657
01:35:15,240 --> 01:35:18,040
Speaker 1: little exercise that we do. I have the NBA Draft

1658
01:35:18,120 --> 01:35:22,000
Speaker 1: tankathon in front of me. I will do the simulator,

1659
01:35:23,439 --> 01:35:28,880
Speaker 1: you will do the sounder. I will then announce in

1660
01:35:28,960 --> 01:35:33,280
Speaker 1: my David's stern impression which number and pick the Pacers

1661
01:35:33,320 --> 01:35:36,200
Speaker 1: have in our tankathon. And then right when I say

1662
01:35:36,240 --> 01:35:40,920
Speaker 1: the Indiana Pacers select, we will have Scott Agnes complete

1663
01:35:40,920 --> 01:35:43,960
Speaker 1: the thought by telling us who the Pacers would select

1664
01:35:44,120 --> 01:35:48,519
Speaker 1: if that is in fact the pick that they are selecting. Okay, Okay, Now,

1665
01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:52,000
Speaker 1: of course, if this lands for us outside of the

1666
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:54,839
Speaker 1: top four, then that means that pick goes to the Clippers.

1667
01:35:54,840 --> 01:35:57,439
Speaker 2: And our little exercise is Nolan void, Scott, are you

1668
01:35:57,479 --> 01:35:59,720
Speaker 2: ready for this? Let's do it all?

1669
01:35:59,800 --> 01:35:59,880
Speaker 4: Right?

1670
01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:00,559
Speaker 2: Here we go.

1671
01:36:06,200 --> 01:36:10,679
Speaker 1: With the first pick and the twenty twenty six NBA Draft.

1672
01:36:11,439 --> 01:36:15,320
Speaker 1: The Indiana Pacers select.

1673
01:36:17,080 --> 01:36:22,240
Speaker 2: What pick are they? Scott? Is this your first time

1674
01:36:22,240 --> 01:36:26,479
Speaker 2: on the program. We'll do this again here now, Scott,

1675
01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:35,000
Speaker 2: pay attention. Here we go. Okay, With the first pick

1676
01:36:35,160 --> 01:36:40,720
Speaker 2: in the twenty twenty six NBA Draft, the Indiana Pacers select.

1677
01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:44,200
Speaker 6: Aj Debasa from Byu.

1678
01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:46,960
Speaker 1: Okay, that's now, I did it again and it landed

1679
01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:50,280
Speaker 1: them on second. Let's just say for the sake of

1680
01:36:50,320 --> 01:36:53,559
Speaker 1: discussion that Demonsa goes first to Sacramento in your opinion,

1681
01:36:53,680 --> 01:36:55,120
Speaker 1: then Scott, who goes second?

1682
01:36:57,120 --> 01:37:00,960
Speaker 6: Right now? It seems like Darren Peterson I know.

1683
01:37:00,960 --> 01:37:05,280
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what you tell me if I'm crazy.

1684
01:37:05,320 --> 01:37:08,920
Speaker 1: I'm not sold on him. Am I out of my mind?

1685
01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:09,519
Speaker 2: No?

1686
01:37:09,800 --> 01:37:12,080
Speaker 6: I think you are like a lot of scouts and

1687
01:37:12,160 --> 01:37:16,080
Speaker 6: league executives that want to learn more. There's it's it

1688
01:37:16,120 --> 01:37:19,000
Speaker 6: feels incomplete to them more than any other of the

1689
01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:20,280
Speaker 6: top prospects.

1690
01:37:20,680 --> 01:37:24,680
Speaker 1: I I watch him, Scott, Scott Agnes, by the way,

1691
01:37:24,680 --> 01:37:26,479
Speaker 1: a Fieldhouse Files is our guest.

1692
01:37:26,520 --> 01:37:27,800
Speaker 2: We're gonna be talking Pacers here.

1693
01:37:28,880 --> 01:37:33,280
Speaker 1: When I watch Peterson, and people that know a lot

1694
01:37:33,320 --> 01:37:35,280
Speaker 1: more than I, that get paid to do this for

1695
01:37:35,360 --> 01:37:38,240
Speaker 1: a living, seem to love him. Now that's not to

1696
01:37:38,280 --> 01:37:40,240
Speaker 1: say that those people are always right either, you know

1697
01:37:40,240 --> 01:37:44,800
Speaker 1: what I mean. But when I've watched him, I'm not

1698
01:37:44,920 --> 01:37:49,439
Speaker 1: kidding you. It seems like Scott ninety percent of the time.

1699
01:37:49,479 --> 01:37:52,200
Speaker 1: And I've watched a fair amount of Kansas, but whenever

1700
01:37:52,240 --> 01:37:54,960
Speaker 1: I look up, I'm like, oh, man, Okay, that's a

1701
01:37:55,040 --> 01:37:58,479
Speaker 1: nice move and he's open and that's a good look. Okay,

1702
01:37:58,520 --> 01:38:00,920
Speaker 1: missed it. I mean I look at him like he's

1703
01:38:00,920 --> 01:38:03,519
Speaker 1: three for eleven in this game. He's he shot forty

1704
01:38:03,600 --> 01:38:07,559
Speaker 1: four percent. I think from the floor. He feels to me.

1705
01:38:07,880 --> 01:38:09,960
Speaker 1: Do you remember when the Pacers got Evan Turner and

1706
01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:12,960
Speaker 1: it was like, oh my gosh, lights out, it's over

1707
01:38:13,040 --> 01:38:14,679
Speaker 1: Evan Turner a pacer, And.

1708
01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:16,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, he acquired him hoping he'd be part of a

1709
01:38:16,960 --> 01:38:18,120
Speaker 6: group that took them over the top.

1710
01:38:18,280 --> 01:38:21,120
Speaker 1: Correct, and he was a dominant college player, and it

1711
01:38:21,280 --> 01:38:23,519
Speaker 1: just I mean, he was okay, protongam wrong. He was

1712
01:38:23,520 --> 01:38:26,880
Speaker 1: a nice player, but he was never like an it player.

1713
01:38:27,280 --> 01:38:30,000
Speaker 1: And I feel like de Bonsa is a can't miss

1714
01:38:30,160 --> 01:38:33,920
Speaker 1: it player, right, Yeah.

1715
01:38:33,760 --> 01:38:35,519
Speaker 6: It does feel that way one hundred percent. I mean,

1716
01:38:35,520 --> 01:38:38,040
Speaker 6: all these guys, the trickery and all this is they're

1717
01:38:38,120 --> 01:38:41,240
Speaker 6: just so young and inexperienced, and so you don't have

1718
01:38:41,960 --> 01:38:44,880
Speaker 6: much of a landscape, a canvas to go off of here,

1719
01:38:44,920 --> 01:38:48,800
Speaker 6: and so and I think also the challenge has become

1720
01:38:48,840 --> 01:38:51,719
Speaker 6: in college. There's so many people in these players' ears,

1721
01:38:52,080 --> 01:38:54,280
Speaker 6: and so you don't know what they're being told, what

1722
01:38:54,280 --> 01:38:57,559
Speaker 6: they're being suggested, what advice they are following. Are they

1723
01:38:57,560 --> 01:38:59,559
Speaker 6: there just for the money? How much do they love

1724
01:38:59,600 --> 01:39:02,559
Speaker 6: the game? Those are the things these executives more than

1725
01:39:02,600 --> 01:39:05,679
Speaker 6: their game, are just trying to siphon through and figure

1726
01:39:05,760 --> 01:39:08,840
Speaker 6: out before they want to commit something long term. Because

1727
01:39:08,840 --> 01:39:11,280
Speaker 6: here's the thing with the top four pick. With a

1728
01:39:11,360 --> 01:39:14,639
Speaker 6: top pick, you need a sure thing. Now. There obviously

1729
01:39:14,680 --> 01:39:17,280
Speaker 6: aren't any guarantees, right, We've seen that many at times.

1730
01:39:17,680 --> 01:39:21,240
Speaker 6: But this is not picking fifteenth or sixteenth where you

1731
01:39:21,360 --> 01:39:23,519
Speaker 6: hope maybe they could be a starter one day, maybe

1732
01:39:23,520 --> 01:39:26,160
Speaker 6: they could have all star potential. No, you got to

1733
01:39:26,240 --> 01:39:28,800
Speaker 6: hit on this, especially if it's number one, because the

1734
01:39:28,800 --> 01:39:30,120
Speaker 6: Pacers have never selected there.

1735
01:39:31,080 --> 01:39:34,840
Speaker 1: Not only that, it is amazing that they've never had

1736
01:39:34,880 --> 01:39:38,040
Speaker 1: a player on their roster who had been selected number one,

1737
01:39:38,080 --> 01:39:43,080
Speaker 1: even if it was selected number one by someone else. Right, Listen,

1738
01:39:43,880 --> 01:39:46,439
Speaker 1: we've talked about it a million times. I'm hoping that

1739
01:39:46,520 --> 01:39:48,760
Speaker 1: the karma finally pays them off and they end up

1740
01:39:48,760 --> 01:39:50,559
Speaker 1: in the top four. But let's talk about last night

1741
01:39:50,600 --> 01:39:54,360
Speaker 1: Scott and the Pacers getting that win in Orlando. Yes,

1742
01:39:54,479 --> 01:39:56,920
Speaker 1: it is relatively meaningless. It means that they are now

1743
01:39:56,960 --> 01:40:01,040
Speaker 1: tied with Washington for the fewest wins still in the NBA,

1744
01:40:01,200 --> 01:40:02,960
Speaker 1: but they are tied for the worst record, not the

1745
01:40:02,960 --> 01:40:07,240
Speaker 1: worst record overall. What symbolically, though, did that win mean

1746
01:40:07,320 --> 01:40:08,360
Speaker 1: for them?

1747
01:40:08,760 --> 01:40:10,920
Speaker 6: I think more than anything, Jake, it was a feel

1748
01:40:10,920 --> 01:40:13,120
Speaker 6: good moment for them, a monkey off their back. But

1749
01:40:13,200 --> 01:40:15,760
Speaker 6: at the same time, did you take note of how

1750
01:40:15,800 --> 01:40:18,600
Speaker 6: they play like? It was notable to me that the

1751
01:40:18,680 --> 01:40:21,679
Speaker 6: starters are there in crunch time that they all played.

1752
01:40:22,439 --> 01:40:26,160
Speaker 6: Four players played over thirty four minutes, rotation was tightened

1753
01:40:26,160 --> 01:40:29,519
Speaker 6: to nine as if it was a playoff game. To me, Jake,

1754
01:40:29,560 --> 01:40:32,800
Speaker 6: this was a group that needed more than a moral

1755
01:40:32,920 --> 01:40:37,080
Speaker 6: victory and they rallied behind Pascal Siakam and got it done.

1756
01:40:37,200 --> 01:40:39,840
Speaker 6: So more than the standings, this is a moment that

1757
01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:42,519
Speaker 6: can help probably get them through these final ten games,

1758
01:40:42,560 --> 01:40:45,880
Speaker 6: because that losing streak of sixteen, which is a clearly

1759
01:40:45,920 --> 01:40:48,639
Speaker 6: a franchise record, had been weighing on them.

1760
01:40:49,720 --> 01:40:55,080
Speaker 1: And I thought it was big and symbolic. Scott, and

1761
01:40:55,160 --> 01:40:57,200
Speaker 1: I want you to kind of add to this. I

1762
01:40:57,280 --> 01:40:59,479
Speaker 1: talked about it over the course of the show. Today,

1763
01:41:00,320 --> 01:41:05,839
Speaker 1: Pascal Siakam is beyond just a very elite low post

1764
01:41:05,920 --> 01:41:09,280
Speaker 1: scorer who can also shoot from the outside. For him

1765
01:41:09,280 --> 01:41:13,800
Speaker 1: to cement that win, it looked like the monkey.

1766
01:41:13,479 --> 01:41:14,920
Speaker 2: Off the back is a good way of saying it,

1767
01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:19,600
Speaker 2: but it looked like it was Siakam basically saying, we

1768
01:41:19,760 --> 01:41:22,120
Speaker 2: beat Oklahoma City there to let them know that we're

1769
01:41:22,160 --> 01:41:24,800
Speaker 2: still here. We beat New York there to let them

1770
01:41:24,800 --> 01:41:25,800
Speaker 2: know that we're still here.

1771
01:41:26,160 --> 01:41:28,840
Speaker 1: But we needed to get a win where we had

1772
01:41:28,840 --> 01:41:31,519
Speaker 1: to dig deep just to show to ourselves that we're

1773
01:41:31,560 --> 01:41:32,120
Speaker 1: still here.

1774
01:41:32,479 --> 01:41:34,120
Speaker 2: Do you agree with that? Does that make sense?

1775
01:41:35,040 --> 01:41:37,200
Speaker 6: I do? I mean, these guys are competitors and that's

1776
01:41:37,240 --> 01:41:39,920
Speaker 6: what helped get them to this level. And so you

1777
01:41:39,960 --> 01:41:42,600
Speaker 6: don't see Pascal wanting to sit and just take it

1778
01:41:42,640 --> 01:41:45,000
Speaker 6: easy the rest of the season. He's on a max contract,

1779
01:41:45,160 --> 01:41:48,240
Speaker 6: they're not in the playoffs. He was still already received

1780
01:41:48,240 --> 01:41:52,240
Speaker 6: his All Star you know, celebration. Nah, he wants to

1781
01:41:52,280 --> 01:41:54,720
Speaker 6: see this thing through. And I think again, he has

1782
01:41:54,760 --> 01:41:57,280
Speaker 6: become the gym that the Pacers, more than the Pacers

1783
01:41:57,520 --> 01:42:00,840
Speaker 6: or any of us knew about or expected with acquiring him.

1784
01:42:00,840 --> 01:42:03,200
Speaker 6: We knew his talents on the floor, but he's not

1785
01:42:03,320 --> 01:42:05,519
Speaker 6: a vocal guy. He's become a vocal guy. Hadn't been

1786
01:42:05,560 --> 01:42:07,599
Speaker 6: a big leader because he hadn't needed to be. He's

1787
01:42:07,640 --> 01:42:10,280
Speaker 6: become just that. And I think as much as the

1788
01:42:10,320 --> 01:42:14,280
Speaker 6: coaching staff challenged them earlier in the day in Orlando,

1789
01:42:14,760 --> 01:42:18,000
Speaker 6: I think these players also collectively said, Hey, let's rally.

1790
01:42:18,080 --> 01:42:20,080
Speaker 6: We're tired of this. So if they're going to play us,

1791
01:42:20,160 --> 01:42:22,120
Speaker 6: let's make the most of it. And so much of

1792
01:42:22,160 --> 01:42:24,880
Speaker 6: what last season Jake was made up of was not

1793
01:42:25,120 --> 01:42:29,560
Speaker 6: just them getting to the finals. To me, the most

1794
01:42:29,640 --> 01:42:32,479
Speaker 6: memorable thing was about the way in which that team

1795
01:42:32,560 --> 01:42:36,080
Speaker 6: rallied to make these theatrical comebacks. It was, you know,

1796
01:42:36,160 --> 01:42:39,519
Speaker 6: Tyreese Halliburn's four point play in the corner over Milwaukee

1797
01:42:39,600 --> 01:42:42,719
Speaker 6: at the end of the regular season, and game winning shots.

1798
01:42:42,720 --> 01:42:46,000
Speaker 6: And they haven't been put in those moments very often

1799
01:42:46,080 --> 01:42:48,599
Speaker 6: this season. They were in this game, and I think

1800
01:42:48,640 --> 01:42:50,440
Speaker 6: they were able to kind of feel something.

1801
01:42:50,160 --> 01:42:55,160
Speaker 1: Again moving forward, Scott, for the remainder of the season, here,

1802
01:42:55,200 --> 01:42:58,360
Speaker 1: do you anticipate that we will see in some cases

1803
01:42:58,400 --> 01:43:04,400
Speaker 1: a continuation, I guess, but a minute restriction for let's say,

1804
01:43:04,520 --> 01:43:09,600
Speaker 1: nim Hard, McConnell, Topp and those three are they going

1805
01:43:09,680 --> 01:43:11,439
Speaker 1: to keep it where it is right now, where you

1806
01:43:11,600 --> 01:43:13,120
Speaker 1: just kind of never know from one game to the

1807
01:43:13,120 --> 01:43:14,679
Speaker 1: next what sort of minutes they're going to get.

1808
01:43:16,200 --> 01:43:20,559
Speaker 6: I think I think relatively that'll be the case, except

1809
01:43:20,600 --> 01:43:23,679
Speaker 6: for Topping is we kind of know it's about eighteen minutes.

1810
01:43:23,720 --> 01:43:26,800
Speaker 6: Sixteen minutes for Topping is what Rick Carlisle and the

1811
01:43:26,800 --> 01:43:28,719
Speaker 6: training staff are trying to keep him at the rest

1812
01:43:28,720 --> 01:43:32,280
Speaker 6: of the season that we do know. McConnell's generally around

1813
01:43:32,320 --> 01:43:35,840
Speaker 6: twenty minutes, but he's having to play more. And then

1814
01:43:35,920 --> 01:43:38,960
Speaker 6: nim Hard, I think you're trying to keep him below thirty.

1815
01:43:39,040 --> 01:43:40,720
Speaker 6: But if he's out there, you're wanting to play it.

1816
01:43:41,240 --> 01:43:41,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's it.

1817
01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:44,559
Speaker 1: Nim Hart's an interesting one because you know we've seen

1818
01:43:44,600 --> 01:43:46,519
Speaker 1: games before where he's had a really good first half.

1819
01:43:46,360 --> 01:43:48,000
Speaker 2: And then he doesn't even come out in the second half.

1820
01:43:48,040 --> 01:43:52,479
Speaker 1: Right, How have you assessed the way Toppin has looked

1821
01:43:52,520 --> 01:43:53,320
Speaker 1: in his return?

1822
01:43:54,720 --> 01:43:57,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, fair question. I think that I think he's been

1823
01:43:57,200 --> 01:44:01,360
Speaker 6: a guy that has the first couple games a little tentative,

1824
01:44:01,680 --> 01:44:03,760
Speaker 6: which is totally to be expected by the way a

1825
01:44:03,800 --> 01:44:07,599
Speaker 6: foot something you use on every movement, and you know

1826
01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:11,520
Speaker 6: he's so dependent on his speed down the floor galloping

1827
01:44:11,560 --> 01:44:13,800
Speaker 6: and then also his high flying finishes. And I think

1828
01:44:14,120 --> 01:44:17,200
Speaker 6: after the first game or two, I think he's really

1829
01:44:17,240 --> 01:44:20,040
Speaker 6: settled in nicely and playing freely out there. And so

1830
01:44:20,439 --> 01:44:22,519
Speaker 6: I think he's been a big piece that we probably

1831
01:44:22,520 --> 01:44:25,360
Speaker 6: have not talked enough about this season when we talk

1832
01:44:25,400 --> 01:44:28,320
Speaker 6: about the losing streaks and how he's been unavailable most

1833
01:44:28,360 --> 01:44:28,720
Speaker 6: of the way.

1834
01:44:29,560 --> 01:44:33,559
Speaker 1: Scott, last question, I wanted to ask you because you

1835
01:44:33,560 --> 01:44:37,280
Speaker 1: you know, you do cover the Pacers beyond just the

1836
01:44:37,439 --> 01:44:41,000
Speaker 1: x's and o's of the team itself. And I know

1837
01:44:41,560 --> 01:44:44,960
Speaker 1: obviously that what I'm about to mention has to do

1838
01:44:45,040 --> 01:44:49,360
Speaker 1: more with the Simon Property Group and not with the Pacers.

1839
01:44:49,400 --> 01:44:52,640
Speaker 1: And I don't mean from a transfer of ownership standpoint

1840
01:44:52,680 --> 01:44:56,160
Speaker 1: and those sorts of things, but just in somebody who

1841
01:44:56,160 --> 01:44:59,280
Speaker 1: has been around the Pacers a lot, who has worked

1842
01:44:59,320 --> 01:45:01,680
Speaker 1: within the organ organization, who knows a lot of the

1843
01:45:01,720 --> 01:45:06,080
Speaker 1: people over there. You know, obviously, yesterday with the loss

1844
01:45:06,120 --> 01:45:08,559
Speaker 1: within the Simon family that came, you know, we learned

1845
01:45:08,640 --> 01:45:12,400
Speaker 1: this story essentially as we were on the air yesterday,

1846
01:45:12,439 --> 01:45:14,679
Speaker 1: I think it was probably just about twenty four hours ago,

1847
01:45:15,720 --> 01:45:18,600
Speaker 1: and the CEO of the Simon Property Group and the

1848
01:45:18,640 --> 01:45:23,560
Speaker 1: son of Melvin Simon, obviously the nephew of Herb.

1849
01:45:23,320 --> 01:45:26,720
Speaker 2: Simon, but at the age of sixty four. Yesterday we

1850
01:45:26,880 --> 01:45:29,280
Speaker 2: learned of the passing of David Simon, and I didn't

1851
01:45:29,320 --> 01:45:31,479
Speaker 2: know if there's anything that you could add, either from

1852
01:45:31,520 --> 01:45:35,400
Speaker 2: a personal perspective or just what he meant to the

1853
01:45:35,400 --> 01:45:38,519
Speaker 2: family and the family business as well. And that loss

1854
01:45:38,640 --> 01:45:39,760
Speaker 2: towards the city.

1855
01:45:40,120 --> 01:45:42,519
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think more than anything, we feel it from

1856
01:45:42,560 --> 01:45:45,519
Speaker 6: a city standpoint, and how much the Simons have meant.

1857
01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:49,519
Speaker 6: They're one of our most famous and impactful families. I

1858
01:45:49,560 --> 01:45:52,920
Speaker 6: think right away, you think about Indianapolis, you think about

1859
01:45:52,960 --> 01:45:55,760
Speaker 6: the Simons and what they've done, and obviously David did

1860
01:45:55,800 --> 01:45:59,439
Speaker 6: not have any influence in basketball or anything like that.

1861
01:45:59,720 --> 01:46:02,360
Speaker 6: But to meet Jake and you'll appreciate this probably more

1862
01:46:02,400 --> 01:46:05,639
Speaker 6: than anyone as I go directly to the Simon Cancer

1863
01:46:05,680 --> 01:46:10,439
Speaker 6: Center and how impactful that has been for the city,

1864
01:46:10,479 --> 01:46:13,519
Speaker 6: but especially the individuals that have needed that, and the

1865
01:46:13,880 --> 01:46:17,200
Speaker 6: mel passed away with cancer and now his son far

1866
01:46:17,280 --> 01:46:21,000
Speaker 6: too soon here at sixty four, but that fifty million

1867
01:46:21,000 --> 01:46:25,560
Speaker 6: dollars boost to that Simon Cancer Center just so impactful,

1868
01:46:26,160 --> 01:46:29,080
Speaker 6: more than all ever know, obviously, but it's just so

1869
01:46:29,200 --> 01:46:32,040
Speaker 6: great to have this Simon family, even though I don't

1870
01:46:32,080 --> 01:46:35,040
Speaker 6: know David or anything like that, but an Indie native

1871
01:46:35,240 --> 01:46:37,880
Speaker 6: went to IU Kelly's School of Business. So those are

1872
01:46:37,920 --> 01:46:38,880
Speaker 6: the things that I took away.

1873
01:46:39,400 --> 01:46:39,719
Speaker 2: Scott.

1874
01:46:39,760 --> 01:46:44,160
Speaker 1: Appreciate the time as always. Pacers and Lake show tomorrow night. Correct,

1875
01:46:44,560 --> 01:46:47,360
Speaker 1: that's right, yep, PACER's Lakers tomorrow night, Field House files,

1876
01:46:47,360 --> 01:46:48,679
Speaker 1: all the coverage. Appreciate it, Scott.

1877
01:46:48,880 --> 01:46:49,720
Speaker 6: Okay, thanks Jake.

1878
01:46:49,960 --> 01:46:52,759
Speaker 1: Scott Agnes joining us on the Java House Coldbrew Coffee

1879
01:46:52,760 --> 01:46:54,960
Speaker 1: guest line. Eddie, let's do one more take upon here

1880
01:46:54,960 --> 01:46:56,720
Speaker 1: because I'm not gonna lie to you. I hit a

1881
01:46:56,720 --> 01:46:58,519
Speaker 1: streak there where I had several in a row that

1882
01:46:58,560 --> 01:46:59,960
Speaker 1: went with is this this is?

1883
01:47:00,080 --> 01:47:03,240
Speaker 2: Do we really want to end that? Street? Though I

1884
01:47:03,240 --> 01:47:06,320
Speaker 2: had several in a row where they were it was fifth. Oh, okay,

1885
01:47:06,360 --> 01:47:08,439
Speaker 2: which is not good. So this is the end? All

1886
01:47:08,479 --> 01:47:10,240
Speaker 2: be all right here? Right? Even though we had last

1887
01:47:10,240 --> 01:47:11,920
Speaker 2: one with the one, but that screwed it up because

1888
01:47:11,920 --> 01:47:13,880
Speaker 2: I went with a couple more. Okay, I'm not even looking.

1889
01:47:13,920 --> 01:47:15,160
Speaker 2: You're ready. Here we go.

1890
01:47:21,120 --> 01:47:26,000
Speaker 1: With the fourth pick in the twenty twenty six NBA Draft,

1891
01:47:26,760 --> 01:47:33,839
Speaker 1: the Indiana Pacers select Cameron Boozer from Duke University. Although

1892
01:47:33,880 --> 01:47:35,800
Speaker 1: It would probably be Caleb Wilson in that case, because

1893
01:47:35,840 --> 01:47:41,439
Speaker 1: Boozer would probably go third. Would they start looking? Would

1894
01:47:41,439 --> 01:47:44,160
Speaker 1: they start looking Caleb Wilson I think is intriguing, but

1895
01:47:44,200 --> 01:47:48,640
Speaker 1: he's coming off the injury. There's some question there. I

1896
01:47:48,680 --> 01:47:51,240
Speaker 1: had one person tell me that he had Sean Kemp

1897
01:47:51,400 --> 01:47:52,360
Speaker 1: type potential.

1898
01:47:52,560 --> 01:48:00,120
Speaker 2: Really yes, interesting? Would there be interest? Do you think

1899
01:48:00,640 --> 01:48:06,439
Speaker 2: would they go guard man? I don't know. I think

1900
01:48:06,520 --> 01:48:09,679
Speaker 2: Darius Acuff is moving up. I'm telling you, oh yeah,

1901
01:48:09,720 --> 01:48:13,840
Speaker 2: that's for sure. I mean Kingston Flemings of Houston, because

1902
01:48:14,360 --> 01:48:16,080
Speaker 2: presumably the way he guards.

1903
01:48:15,840 --> 01:48:19,000
Speaker 3: Acuff with the Pacers offense in their system would be fun.

1904
01:48:20,000 --> 01:48:21,000
Speaker 2: That would be very fun.

1905
01:48:21,960 --> 01:48:25,880
Speaker 3: Although like then you run into the okay, would you

1906
01:48:25,960 --> 01:48:27,880
Speaker 3: rather have a Cuff long term or would you rather

1907
01:48:27,960 --> 01:48:29,000
Speaker 3: keep nim Hard in here?

1908
01:48:30,240 --> 01:48:31,120
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's a.

1909
01:48:32,760 --> 01:48:35,280
Speaker 3: It's a fact, like you were, you're trying. The main

1910
01:48:35,360 --> 01:48:38,240
Speaker 3: need for the Pacers right now is they need people

1911
01:48:38,280 --> 01:48:42,040
Speaker 3: that are disrupted defensively with length, who can get into

1912
01:48:42,080 --> 01:48:46,559
Speaker 3: passing lane to help rebound, defend and drafting Acuff wouldn't

1913
01:48:46,600 --> 01:48:50,240
Speaker 3: give you the immediate return on investment there, but it

1914
01:48:50,320 --> 01:48:51,719
Speaker 3: could give you a long term option.

1915
01:48:51,960 --> 01:48:55,000
Speaker 1: I think the thing that I always go back to

1916
01:48:57,360 --> 01:49:00,679
Speaker 1: when you start talking about drafting replacement for a veteran

1917
01:49:02,680 --> 01:49:05,920
Speaker 1: or not replacement. But you know, hey, if they brought in,

1918
01:49:05,960 --> 01:49:07,760
Speaker 1: you know, a cuff, what does that mean for nim

1919
01:49:07,760 --> 01:49:10,559
Speaker 1: Hard to You always go in with the you always

1920
01:49:10,640 --> 01:49:14,240
Speaker 1: go with and defer to the known commodity. Right, we

1921
01:49:14,439 --> 01:49:18,719
Speaker 1: know nim Hard has done the hard part. He's proven

1922
01:49:18,760 --> 01:49:21,240
Speaker 1: he can play in the NBA. I'm not saying that

1923
01:49:21,320 --> 01:49:23,760
Speaker 1: a cuff can't. But we don't know yet. I mean,

1924
01:49:23,920 --> 01:49:32,080
Speaker 1: he maybe he's a cuff to me, has a If

1925
01:49:32,080 --> 01:49:35,120
Speaker 1: you had to give an NBA comparison for Darius a cuff,

1926
01:49:35,120 --> 01:49:35,760
Speaker 1: who you going with?

1927
01:49:35,840 --> 01:49:37,560
Speaker 2: I don't know in my mind.

1928
01:49:36,840 --> 01:49:39,400
Speaker 3: I honestly have no idea because he's such a unique

1929
01:49:40,880 --> 01:49:46,120
Speaker 3: player six', three can obviously score the Rock.

1930
01:49:48,600 --> 01:49:51,880
Speaker 2: Damian, Lillard, okay.

1931
01:49:53,200 --> 01:49:56,559
Speaker 1: That's not, bad the one AND i don't see they

1932
01:49:56,640 --> 01:49:59,280
Speaker 1: used to give you like comparisons when you would look at.

1933
01:49:59,320 --> 01:50:03,960
Speaker 2: It, okay here we. Go now they don't listen to

1934
01:50:04,000 --> 01:50:08,800
Speaker 2: comparison for. HIM i Think Anthony. Edwards, YEAH i mean

1935
01:50:08,800 --> 01:50:10,040
Speaker 2: you forget That edwards is six.

1936
01:50:10,200 --> 01:50:14,320
Speaker 1: Five i, get it but he has that same get

1937
01:50:14,320 --> 01:50:18,200
Speaker 1: out of my, way, mentality right just a nose to.

1938
01:50:18,280 --> 01:50:23,160
Speaker 1: THE grind, I mean i'm not going to say he

1939
01:50:23,200 --> 01:50:24,680
Speaker 1: has Carried to arkansas.

1940
01:50:24,280 --> 01:50:25,639
Speaker 2: At, this point but he's been pretty.

1941
01:50:25,720 --> 01:50:28,000
Speaker 1: Darn good and it's been in the second half of

1942
01:50:28,000 --> 01:50:34,000
Speaker 1: the year where he's been pretty. Darn good and, you

1943
01:50:34,040 --> 01:50:40,960
Speaker 1: Know Then kingston flemings Now The kingston flemings player comparison.

1944
01:50:40,280 --> 01:50:44,160
Speaker 2: That, They have i'm sorry that they they're comparing him

1945
01:50:44,200 --> 01:50:50,680
Speaker 2: to they don't have a like reminds me of level.

1946
01:50:50,400 --> 01:50:53,160
Speaker 1: Comparison that they just compare Him TO Darius, a cuff which.

1947
01:50:53,240 --> 01:50:58,439
Speaker 1: Seems odd but HERE'S what i was told by somebody

1948
01:51:00,720 --> 01:51:02,880
Speaker 1: who does this for, a living.

1949
01:51:05,200 --> 01:51:09,439
Speaker 2: And that Is the bonsa and this was a mid season.

1950
01:51:09,520 --> 01:51:15,960
Speaker 2: Report card The bonson peterson are THE clear i think,

1951
01:51:16,040 --> 01:51:20,599
Speaker 2: amongst executives seen as the clear. Top TWO and i

1952
01:51:20,600 --> 01:51:25,880
Speaker 2: Think In de, bonsa's case it's more about a clear

1953
01:51:26,000 --> 01:51:29,720
Speaker 2: understanding of where he is, right now And in, peterson's

1954
01:51:29,720 --> 01:51:34,439
Speaker 2: case it's more about, where he respectively is going.

1955
01:51:34,479 --> 01:51:34,760
Speaker 4: TO be.

1956
01:51:36,600 --> 01:51:39,640
Speaker 1: I Think de bonsa is much more plug it in

1957
01:51:39,720 --> 01:51:42,240
Speaker 1: right now and ready. To GO but i Think, with

1958
01:51:42,320 --> 01:51:44,880
Speaker 1: peterson you look at it and you just say he

1959
01:51:44,960 --> 01:51:48,240
Speaker 1: can score in so many. Different ways he just doesn't.

1960
01:51:48,240 --> 01:51:52,280
Speaker 1: Do it consistently enough, for me but he can get to,

1961
01:51:52,320 --> 01:51:56,240
Speaker 1: the basket. No doubt third would BE and i think

1962
01:51:56,439 --> 01:52:01,280
Speaker 1: For the pacers They have, boozer third but maybe that

1963
01:52:01,320 --> 01:52:04,799
Speaker 1: gap is closing a. Little, bit, boozer though IS seen

1964
01:52:05,200 --> 01:52:11,200
Speaker 1: i think as the. Safest pick but also with, you Know,

1965
01:52:11,720 --> 01:52:16,200
Speaker 1: with boozer you have a it's like when you do

1966
01:52:16,280 --> 01:52:21,000
Speaker 1: investments and your money, person says how aggressive do you want?

1967
01:52:21,000 --> 01:52:24,760
Speaker 2: To, BE well i want to be. REALLY conservative i Want,

1968
01:52:24,800 --> 01:52:25,679
Speaker 2: to okay in.

1969
01:52:25,600 --> 01:52:27,920
Speaker 1: That case then we're going to buy you this stock

1970
01:52:28,400 --> 01:52:32,760
Speaker 1: because while it is guaranteed that it's never going to

1971
01:52:32,840 --> 01:52:35,519
Speaker 1: go below one hundred and eighty, a share but it

1972
01:52:35,560 --> 01:52:38,560
Speaker 1: probably will never eclipse, three hundred but you're not going to.

1973
01:52:38,600 --> 01:52:41,599
Speaker 2: Lose, Anything, Okay fine now this stock, over here.

1974
01:52:43,040 --> 01:52:44,760
Speaker 1: There are many that believe it's going to be three

1975
01:52:44,920 --> 01:52:48,599
Speaker 1: fifty a share in, a year but it may go

1976
01:52:48,680 --> 01:52:53,639
Speaker 1: from one eighty a share down. To sixty how risky

1977
01:52:53,680 --> 01:52:55,040
Speaker 1: do you want? To BE and i think that there

1978
01:52:55,080 --> 01:52:58,160
Speaker 1: are players in this draft that are. That, Way Now

1979
01:52:58,240 --> 01:53:01,200
Speaker 1: caleb Wilson and booze are as seen as the most,

1980
01:53:01,600 --> 01:53:03,200
Speaker 1: the safest but.

1981
01:53:03,360 --> 01:53:04,480
Speaker 2: Lower Ceiling.

1982
01:53:06,280 --> 01:53:09,320
Speaker 1: Caleb wilson was told to me he might be the,

1983
01:53:09,320 --> 01:53:14,519
Speaker 1: most explosive Like A sean kemp. Level player, but again

1984
01:53:15,880 --> 01:53:18,920
Speaker 1: there have been plenty. OF players, I mean i there

1985
01:53:18,920 --> 01:53:22,120
Speaker 1: are guys that you you saw in college and you

1986
01:53:22,200 --> 01:53:26,479
Speaker 1: said that guy is going to. BE unbelievable I thought

1987
01:53:26,680 --> 01:53:27,880
Speaker 1: Jell l ographer was going to.

1988
01:53:27,880 --> 01:53:28,840
Speaker 2: Be a great, pro.

1989
01:53:28,920 --> 01:53:32,560
Speaker 1: PLAYER right I Thought marvin bagley was going to be

1990
01:53:32,560 --> 01:53:35,680
Speaker 1: a really. Good player, he's okay he's just. A.

1991
01:53:35,680 --> 01:53:37,519
Speaker 2: Guy Right and.

1992
01:53:39,439 --> 01:53:41,360
Speaker 1: I'll tell you one if we're going, way back if

1993
01:53:41,360 --> 01:53:43,880
Speaker 1: we're talking about final Fours in india and that kind.

1994
01:53:43,920 --> 01:53:47,920
Speaker 1: OF thing i Thought Stro miles swift was going to

1995
01:53:48,000 --> 01:53:52,200
Speaker 1: be a really, good Player Or tyros thomas was at

1996
01:53:52,200 --> 01:53:53,439
Speaker 1: the other guy that was on his TEAM.

1997
01:53:53,439 --> 01:53:54,360
Speaker 2: AT lsu.

1998
01:53:55,920 --> 01:53:58,679
Speaker 1: I thought those guys were both going to be VERY

1999
01:53:58,840 --> 01:54:02,200
Speaker 1: powerful nba player and they were just kind of. A

2000
01:54:02,240 --> 01:54:03,640
Speaker 1: guy none wrong, with, that.

2001
01:54:05,960 --> 01:54:08,439
Speaker 2: Now. You know i'll tell you the kind of PLAYER that.

2002
01:54:08,479 --> 01:54:09,040
Speaker 2: I love.

2003
01:54:10,680 --> 01:54:16,639
Speaker 1: THERE'S an nba player currently. Playing that and you've heard

2004
01:54:16,680 --> 01:54:19,719
Speaker 1: me say, This, Before eddie that to me is would

2005
01:54:19,760 --> 01:54:20,000
Speaker 1: be the.

2006
01:54:20,040 --> 01:54:24,680
Speaker 2: Perfect pacer this kind of. A Player and i'm not

2007
01:54:24,720 --> 01:54:25,240
Speaker 2: talking about a.

2008
01:54:25,280 --> 01:54:28,640
Speaker 1: Franchise player i'm saying if you were going to go

2009
01:54:28,680 --> 01:54:31,799
Speaker 1: out and get yourself in the, late first early second

2010
01:54:32,800 --> 01:54:36,160
Speaker 1: the kind of guy your, team needs and it's the.

2011
01:54:36,200 --> 01:54:41,440
Speaker 1: One person and don't get, me wrong the chemistry last

2012
01:54:41,520 --> 01:54:43,920
Speaker 1: year Of the pacers was SO good i wouldn't want

2013
01:54:43,920 --> 01:54:44,200
Speaker 1: to screw.

2014
01:54:44,240 --> 01:54:47,600
Speaker 2: It up but there's one guy in the LEAGUE that

2015
01:54:47,640 --> 01:54:48,520
Speaker 2: i look AT and i.

2016
01:54:48,480 --> 01:54:52,880
Speaker 1: Go That is that's the kind of player this team

2017
01:54:52,960 --> 01:54:55,200
Speaker 1: needs in terms of everything he brings to. A team

2018
01:54:55,440 --> 01:54:58,040
Speaker 1: and he's been an arch nemesis Of the pacers for

2019
01:54:58,080 --> 01:55:03,640
Speaker 1: a couple. Of years WHO am i? Talking about the

2020
01:55:03,680 --> 01:55:08,760
Speaker 1: fans Hate him. Lebron again not la a role player

2021
01:55:10,400 --> 01:55:15,080
Speaker 1: or a sixth seventh, man player maybe a. Fifth starter

2022
01:55:16,560 --> 01:55:21,960
Speaker 1: but he hits, open threes he guards well on, the wing,

2023
01:55:23,400 --> 01:55:29,200
Speaker 1: he rebounds and he disrupts the other team and interrupts

2024
01:55:29,240 --> 01:55:31,160
Speaker 1: what they're trying to do and takes them out. Of

2025
01:55:31,200 --> 01:55:34,360
Speaker 1: Flow josh hart because he's a complete pain in.

2026
01:55:34,400 --> 01:55:40,440
Speaker 2: The Backside. Josh, HART nope. A big i mean kind

2027
01:55:40,440 --> 01:55:42,080
Speaker 2: of a tweet, er big but. A big.

2028
01:55:44,120 --> 01:55:47,400
Speaker 1: He plays bigger than he is and he barks bigger

2029
01:55:47,400 --> 01:55:51,520
Speaker 1: than he is because he's, constantly yapping and He's Got

2030
01:55:52,120 --> 01:55:56,800
Speaker 1: reggie miller once said, every team every team needs a

2031
01:55:56,800 --> 01:55:57,160
Speaker 1: little bit.

2032
01:55:57,160 --> 01:55:58,080
Speaker 2: OF crazy.

2033
01:55:59,600 --> 01:56:00,920
Speaker 1: I don't know you're, Talking ABOUT and i don't know

2034
01:56:00,960 --> 01:56:02,840
Speaker 1: if this guy's a little bit, of crazy but he's got.

2035
01:56:02,840 --> 01:56:08,720
Speaker 1: Crazy eyes you can tell sometimes What's that bobby portis.

2036
01:56:09,920 --> 01:56:10,680
Speaker 2: Ding ding ding.

2037
01:56:10,760 --> 01:56:11,440
Speaker 5: Ding ding.

2038
01:56:13,160 --> 01:56:16,800
Speaker 2: Say what, you want but. He's effective.

2039
01:56:18,200 --> 01:56:20,720
Speaker 1: But at the, same time that chemistry is so good

2040
01:56:20,760 --> 01:56:21,840
Speaker 1: that maybe he's a little too.

2041
01:56:21,920 --> 01:56:25,560
Speaker 2: Much CRAZY but i think a really.

2042
01:56:25,560 --> 01:56:27,960
Speaker 1: Good Player jay crowder is another ONE that i, always,

2043
01:56:27,960 --> 01:56:29,960
Speaker 1: said like you need a guy. Like that right comes,

2044
01:56:30,000 --> 01:56:31,840
Speaker 1: in there looks like he's getting ready to go Into a.

2045
01:56:31,840 --> 01:56:35,640
Speaker 1: Gladiator film he's gotten more body armor on Him Than

2046
01:56:35,720 --> 01:56:39,360
Speaker 1: barry bond's by Smell The Ben gay the second he

2047
01:56:39,440 --> 01:56:44,040
Speaker 1: checks into, the lineup looks like a, middle linebacker looks

2048
01:56:44,040 --> 01:56:46,960
Speaker 1: like he's Been Like. Zaire franklin it just goes out

2049
01:56:46,960 --> 01:56:48,200
Speaker 1: there and hits shots and deeze.

2050
01:56:48,280 --> 01:56:50,400
Speaker 3: Up right, Fun Fact bobby ports is second IN the

2051
01:56:50,440 --> 01:56:51,960
Speaker 3: nba and three point shooting this year.

2052
01:56:52,480 --> 01:56:59,240
Speaker 2: By, percentage YEAH can i guess? The? Leader yeah is

2053
01:56:59,280 --> 01:57:04,600
Speaker 2: it a no brainer if you KNOW? The nba yeah to.

2054
01:57:04,640 --> 01:57:10,120
Speaker 2: No brainer did you play? A? Duke yes is He?

2055
01:57:10,160 --> 01:57:13,800
Speaker 2: FROM ohio i don't know where? He is his first

2056
01:57:13,840 --> 01:57:18,640
Speaker 2: name Significant, within yes science. FICTION movies i don't know

2057
01:57:18,680 --> 01:57:21,200
Speaker 2: what we would. Be referencing is his.

2058
01:57:21,200 --> 01:57:23,800
Speaker 1: First name but does his first name tell you that

2059
01:57:23,880 --> 01:57:26,160
Speaker 1: perhaps his dad is somebody he didn't know was, his

2060
01:57:26,240 --> 01:57:29,600
Speaker 1: dad but as. A, villain Yeah and.

2061
01:57:29,520 --> 01:57:33,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna mispronounce his. Last name would It Be? Luke

2062
01:57:33,680 --> 01:57:37,440
Speaker 2: canard It Is? Luke canard forty seven point. Nine PERCENT

2063
01:57:38,200 --> 01:57:41,120
Speaker 2: now i have a question, For, you eddie and you've

2064
01:57:41,120 --> 01:57:44,000
Speaker 2: got to, be HONEST AND i i want YOU to

2065
01:57:44,280 --> 01:57:47,760
Speaker 2: i need you right now to put ON and i

2066
01:57:47,800 --> 01:57:50,320
Speaker 2: know it's a, size NINE but i want you to

2067
01:57:50,360 --> 01:57:55,360
Speaker 2: put on your truth Serum, hat? Okay okay are you

2068
01:57:55,480 --> 01:57:57,440
Speaker 2: not the least bit IMPRESSED that i just pulled that

2069
01:57:57,480 --> 01:57:59,600
Speaker 2: out right off the top of my head when you asked,

2070
01:57:59,600 --> 01:58:01,640
Speaker 2: that question not THINKING that i would know. THE answer

2071
01:58:02,360 --> 01:58:03,640
Speaker 2: i didn't know if you would know it, Or, not

2072
01:58:03,760 --> 01:58:06,680
Speaker 2: jake like you could, know it you could not. Know

2073
01:58:06,720 --> 01:58:09,120
Speaker 2: It because i'm very impressed.

2074
01:58:09,120 --> 01:58:11,640
Speaker 3: With myself you go to every, home game so you

2075
01:58:11,720 --> 01:58:12,280
Speaker 3: see almost.

2076
01:58:12,280 --> 01:58:14,680
Speaker 1: Every, team YEAH but i don't see every, Stat RIGHT

2077
01:58:14,960 --> 01:58:16,400
Speaker 1: but i will tell. YOU this i don't know if

2078
01:58:16,440 --> 01:58:18,280
Speaker 1: you know this, or Not but i'm very impressed.

2079
01:58:18,280 --> 01:58:21,120
Speaker 2: By myself of course you are on, the regular. Right

2080
01:58:21,240 --> 01:58:22,840
Speaker 2: sure i'm just glad that you came up with a

2081
01:58:22,880 --> 01:58:26,360
Speaker 2: reason today for me to be impressed, By, myself OKAY

2082
01:58:26,920 --> 01:58:29,280
Speaker 2: because i love me, some me but every once in,

2083
01:58:29,280 --> 01:58:31,160
Speaker 2: A while i just need that, little jolt that, little

2084
01:58:31,160 --> 01:58:34,120
Speaker 2: boost right kind, of, like guys if you need exactly

2085
01:58:34,160 --> 01:58:36,320
Speaker 2: that jolt, or Boost Then Game Day men's health is

2086
01:58:36,360 --> 01:58:37,720
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2087
01:58:37,760 --> 01:58:42,200
Speaker 1: Dot com whatever it, might be, peptide therapy, testosterone therapy weight,

2088
01:58:42,240 --> 01:58:46,720
Speaker 1: loss Injections game Daymn'shealth dot com is the answer. For You,

2089
01:58:46,840 --> 01:58:49,280
Speaker 1: all right there is something taking place with the colts

2090
01:58:49,320 --> 01:58:51,680
Speaker 1: that we have not addressed other than about an hour

2091
01:58:51,680 --> 01:58:53,040
Speaker 1: and a, half ago but i'll tell you what that

2092
01:58:53,200 --> 01:58:55,320
Speaker 1: is coming up on the. Other SIDE and i Just

2093
01:58:55,360 --> 01:58:57,120
Speaker 1: saw JAY and b walking around and we'll find out

2094
01:58:57,120 --> 01:58:58,839
Speaker 1: what he's got. Going on it's part of our crossover

2095
01:58:58,880 --> 01:59:02,800
Speaker 1: coming up at about. Twenty five, you know that's my

2096
01:59:02,840 --> 01:59:05,360
Speaker 1: favorite time. Of day IT'S when i stop and look

2097
01:59:05,400 --> 01:59:08,200
Speaker 1: at the man in. The mirror JAY and v will

2098
01:59:08,240 --> 01:59:10,720
Speaker 1: be with us about twenty five minutes. From now just saw.

2099
01:59:10,800 --> 01:59:15,320
Speaker 1: Him outside he was super excited about the FACT that

2100
01:59:15,400 --> 01:59:19,880
Speaker 1: i Got the Hummus From, cluster TRUCK which i was

2101
01:59:19,920 --> 01:59:21,880
Speaker 1: getting ready to. Try out and then all of, A

2102
01:59:21,880 --> 01:59:25,280
Speaker 1: sudden I heard jacko singing, and, thought oh WE'RE Back.

2103
01:59:26,720 --> 01:59:31,240
Speaker 2: Nfl owners meeting coming Up. On sunday it does feel

2104
01:59:31,240 --> 01:59:34,360
Speaker 2: like it doesn't have the same level of intrigue or

2105
01:59:34,880 --> 01:59:37,920
Speaker 2: as we've had in years past of some Of that

2106
01:59:38,040 --> 01:59:40,520
Speaker 2: what in, The world what in the world was? That

2107
01:59:40,720 --> 01:59:44,480
Speaker 2: noise you breaking stuff? In there what's that you breaking stuff?

2108
01:59:44,520 --> 01:59:48,560
Speaker 2: In there there's a there's a panel that's loosed. Out here?

2109
01:59:48,720 --> 01:59:51,560
Speaker 2: What world what are you doing? Kicking?

2110
01:59:51,560 --> 01:59:54,000
Speaker 3: Stuff jake we just got this. New studio you're breaking,

2111
01:59:54,040 --> 01:59:55,080
Speaker 3: stuff already.

2112
01:59:56,720 --> 02:00:01,440
Speaker 2: Just hanging Around? Down why why are you taking? PANELS

2113
02:00:01,440 --> 02:00:03,640
Speaker 2: out i. DON'T know i don't know what's. Going on

2114
02:00:04,800 --> 02:00:07,280
Speaker 2: i'm just sitting here minding my. Own business is why

2115
02:00:07,280 --> 02:00:11,160
Speaker 2: we can't have? Nice, things listen there's a fabulous studio, in,

2116
02:00:11,200 --> 02:00:13,720
Speaker 2: HERE right i love everything. About, It Right but i'm

2117
02:00:13,720 --> 02:00:16,840
Speaker 2: just sitting here minding my own p's and q's and and,

2118
02:00:16,960 --> 02:00:18,840
Speaker 2: You know i'm a, bigger fella and my knee. Hit

2119
02:00:18,920 --> 02:00:21,640
Speaker 2: SOMETHING and i look down and somebody just left a

2120
02:00:21,720 --> 02:00:24,360
Speaker 2: door hanging around. Down here. Uh huh it Doesn't go,

2121
02:00:24,560 --> 02:00:27,080
Speaker 2: i'm looking it doesn't go. To, anything this can? You?

2122
02:00:27,120 --> 02:00:33,400
Speaker 2: See folks? RIGHT here i feel like one of, the, prices,

2123
02:00:33,480 --> 02:00:36,280
Speaker 2: right beauties how much you too could win this fabulous

2124
02:00:36,560 --> 02:00:39,960
Speaker 2: removable panel that might just hit you in. The knee

2125
02:00:41,000 --> 02:00:43,120
Speaker 2: WHAT am i supposed to do? With this do? We,

2126
02:00:43,160 --> 02:00:51,080
Speaker 2: know hey, HANG on i think you're. BREAKING stuff i

2127
02:00:51,120 --> 02:00:51,800
Speaker 2: didn't even know it was.

2128
02:00:51,840 --> 02:00:55,040
Speaker 1: Down there if somebody's hiding a panel, around here, they're,

2129
02:00:55,080 --> 02:00:57,160
Speaker 1: like hey let's go to that new studio they just

2130
02:00:57,160 --> 02:00:57,840
Speaker 1: build a state of.

2131
02:00:57,840 --> 02:00:59,800
Speaker 2: The art will just lean the panel up against the

2132
02:00:59,840 --> 02:01:02,040
Speaker 2: wall and then maybe somebody at they're, six four their

2133
02:01:02,120 --> 02:01:02,680
Speaker 2: knee will. Hit.

2134
02:01:02,760 --> 02:01:06,800
Speaker 1: It UH the nfl owners meeting coming Up on sunday

2135
02:01:06,880 --> 02:01:08,840
Speaker 1: And the colts will, Be REPRESENTED and i know that

2136
02:01:09,840 --> 02:01:13,560
Speaker 1: you know this is Obviously not it has been Even

2137
02:01:13,560 --> 02:01:17,080
Speaker 1: When jim mersey was still Living that Carlie ers gordon

2138
02:01:17,320 --> 02:01:20,920
Speaker 1: was the one that was representing the franchise at the,

2139
02:01:20,960 --> 02:01:24,120
Speaker 1: Owner's meeting so you know that that element is. Not

2140
02:01:24,240 --> 02:01:30,440
Speaker 1: new in, the past there have been, very clear, you

2141
02:01:30,440 --> 02:01:34,520
Speaker 1: know points of discussion of what exactly it was that the,

2142
02:01:34,560 --> 02:01:38,440
Speaker 1: owners meetings, you know what they were going, to discuss

2143
02:01:38,600 --> 02:01:42,400
Speaker 1: or new rules changes and things. Like that it does

2144
02:01:42,440 --> 02:01:46,800
Speaker 1: feel like this is one that doesn't have the same

2145
02:01:47,080 --> 02:01:51,320
Speaker 1: level of there's not one, Burning TOPIC am i right

2146
02:01:51,360 --> 02:01:54,960
Speaker 1: about that of like rules changes or anything like that.

2147
02:01:54,800 --> 02:01:56,520
Speaker 2: That everybody one thing.

2148
02:01:56,320 --> 02:02:02,480
Speaker 3: To monitor jake is the, officiating SITUATION because i believe

2149
02:02:02,520 --> 02:02:05,400
Speaker 3: that the contract Between The referees association AND the nfl,

2150
02:02:05,720 --> 02:02:10,800
Speaker 3: is expired and so there's, a chance but your replacement

2151
02:02:10,840 --> 02:02:12,840
Speaker 3: officials of a new deal is not, agreed UPON and

2152
02:02:13,520 --> 02:02:17,000
Speaker 3: i know the league is wanting to institute the use

2153
02:02:17,040 --> 02:02:22,480
Speaker 3: of technology more into officiating to make things quicker and.

2154
02:02:22,600 --> 02:02:28,320
Speaker 2: More, accurate obviously the increased salary cap will. BE discussed

2155
02:02:30,560 --> 02:02:36,960
Speaker 2: i think you know the way that free agency and

2156
02:02:37,880 --> 02:02:38,480
Speaker 2: the salary.

2157
02:02:38,520 --> 02:02:41,760
Speaker 1: Cap itself as the cap, goes up how they go about,

2158
02:02:41,920 --> 02:02:45,080
Speaker 1: free agency the tampering quote. Unquote period all that is

2159
02:02:45,200 --> 02:02:49,400
Speaker 1: expected to be discussed at. Some point one would assume

2160
02:02:51,240 --> 02:02:59,800
Speaker 1: THAT the nfl is also going to. Discuss expansion and

2161
02:03:00,080 --> 02:03:07,880
Speaker 1: it sounds crazy to talk about in terms of.

2162
02:03:09,840 --> 02:03:10,120
Speaker 5: The.

2163
02:03:10,360 --> 02:03:19,480
Speaker 1: Expansion, overseas okay but, five years ten years from now

2164
02:03:19,560 --> 02:03:19,920
Speaker 1: is not that.

2165
02:03:20,040 --> 02:03:21,720
Speaker 2: FAR away, i mean it's five to.

2166
02:03:21,720 --> 02:03:24,600
Speaker 1: TEN years i don't know when the timing, would be

2167
02:03:24,840 --> 02:03:27,800
Speaker 1: but my thought it is very clear THAT the nfl

2168
02:03:27,840 --> 02:03:32,680
Speaker 1: wants to expand. Its footprint they've gone out of their

2169
02:03:32,720 --> 02:03:38,360
Speaker 1: way to continue to grow. The game and it is

2170
02:03:38,600 --> 02:03:43,720
Speaker 1: odd to think BECAUSE the nfl is so big here

2171
02:03:44,840 --> 02:03:47,760
Speaker 1: and in, no way shape or FORM am i pretending

2172
02:03:47,840 --> 02:03:53,480
Speaker 1: to be some sort of Expert on. European Culture and

2173
02:03:53,760 --> 02:03:56,760
Speaker 1: i've been very fortunate to go Over, to europe but

2174
02:03:56,840 --> 02:04:00,360
Speaker 1: it's only been in the last handful of YOU that

2175
02:04:00,400 --> 02:04:06,200
Speaker 1: i have. Experienced that and one of the TIMES that

2176
02:04:06,280 --> 02:04:08,400
Speaker 1: i Was IN europe i Was. In london matter, Of

2177
02:04:08,400 --> 02:04:12,000
Speaker 1: fact i've been there several times at the same time

2178
02:04:12,040 --> 02:04:13,440
Speaker 1: that THERE Were Nfl europe games.

2179
02:04:13,440 --> 02:04:13,640
Speaker 2: Going.

2180
02:04:13,640 --> 02:04:15,520
Speaker 1: ON now i have not gone To The colts Games,

2181
02:04:15,520 --> 02:04:21,840
Speaker 1: in GERMANY but i Was in england when and it Was,

2182
02:04:21,880 --> 02:04:28,440
Speaker 1: the PATRIOTS and i Believe the falcons were Playing in

2183
02:04:28,480 --> 02:04:31,400
Speaker 1: LONDON When I when i Was, IN england i Was

2184
02:04:31,400 --> 02:04:35,640
Speaker 1: in london the day and and you saw a Lot

2185
02:04:35,680 --> 02:04:41,080
Speaker 1: of american fans wearing the jerseys of, the teams and

2186
02:04:41,120 --> 02:04:44,320
Speaker 1: there was some we were down near where the. Stadium was,

2187
02:04:44,400 --> 02:04:47,280
Speaker 1: you know there was some buzz. About it but in

2188
02:04:47,320 --> 02:04:49,600
Speaker 1: a Place, like london there's so much, going, On right

2189
02:04:50,080 --> 02:04:57,040
Speaker 1: but it didn't seem like it was a huge groundswell

2190
02:04:57,200 --> 02:04:59,680
Speaker 1: of interest WITHIN, the uk.

2191
02:05:00,560 --> 02:05:00,920
Speaker 2: You know.

2192
02:05:02,360 --> 02:05:08,680
Speaker 1: And those that Went, to germany Like to frankfurt For

2193
02:05:08,880 --> 02:05:12,600
Speaker 1: the colts game they may Have or berlin this year

2194
02:05:12,680 --> 02:05:16,480
Speaker 1: they might have a differing opinion of maybe they had a,

2195
02:05:16,480 --> 02:05:20,800
Speaker 1: different observation BUT the nfl has, worked very very hard

2196
02:05:21,000 --> 02:05:25,600
Speaker 1: and is continuing to do so to generate. THAT interest

2197
02:05:25,640 --> 02:05:28,080
Speaker 1: i think for a while there there was the Assumption

2198
02:05:28,200 --> 02:05:30,400
Speaker 1: the jaguars were just going to Move to london because

2199
02:05:30,400 --> 02:05:32,640
Speaker 1: they were playing so many games, over, there, right.

2200
02:05:33,160 --> 02:05:34,160
Speaker 2: Well and they kept winning.

2201
02:05:34,280 --> 02:05:37,520
Speaker 1: Over, there, YEAH well, i mean If you're jacksonville to

2202
02:05:37,640 --> 02:05:39,000
Speaker 1: move anywhere, you're, Winning right.

2203
02:05:39,200 --> 02:05:42,840
Speaker 2: But if you're going to, put though my thought, is this.

2204
02:05:44,920 --> 02:05:46,920
Speaker 1: If you're going to put Teams, in europe don't you

2205
02:05:46,960 --> 02:05:48,560
Speaker 1: need to do at least four of them and have

2206
02:05:48,640 --> 02:05:50,080
Speaker 1: a division, over there.

2207
02:05:51,480 --> 02:05:54,960
Speaker 2: Because how do you have who in. The world it.

2208
02:05:54,880 --> 02:05:58,760
Speaker 1: Would be awesome to Live in london or Live in Barcelona,

2209
02:05:59,480 --> 02:06:06,400
Speaker 1: or munich, great, cities great but would you really want

2210
02:06:06,440 --> 02:06:10,480
Speaker 1: to play for a franchise where you know that every

2211
02:06:10,560 --> 02:06:14,360
Speaker 1: road game you're going to a five hour time difference

2212
02:06:14,440 --> 02:06:17,400
Speaker 1: with a six and a half hour flight at minimum every?

2213
02:06:17,440 --> 02:06:21,000
Speaker 2: Single time how in the world do you get a

2214
02:06:21,000 --> 02:06:22,160
Speaker 2: free agent to agree?

2215
02:06:22,200 --> 02:06:25,240
Speaker 1: To that and then you get into the questions of

2216
02:06:25,320 --> 02:06:28,560
Speaker 1: are you getting paid in euros? Or dollars are you

2217
02:06:28,600 --> 02:06:31,960
Speaker 1: getting paid in pounds? Or Dollars because england is. The

2218
02:06:32,000 --> 02:06:36,240
Speaker 1: pound the Rest of europe is the euro that. YOU have,

2219
02:06:37,680 --> 02:06:40,480
Speaker 1: i mean there are a billion things that go into play.

2220
02:06:40,520 --> 02:06:44,280
Speaker 2: With that are you getting taxed into?

2221
02:06:44,360 --> 02:06:47,560
Speaker 1: DIFFERENT countries, i mean there are so, many intangibles but to,

2222
02:06:47,600 --> 02:06:50,360
Speaker 1: travel alone it would seem as though you've got to

2223
02:06:50,400 --> 02:06:50,920
Speaker 1: kind of break.

2224
02:06:50,920 --> 02:06:51,480
Speaker 2: That up.

2225
02:06:53,040 --> 02:06:56,920
Speaker 1: And then you get what could be another expansion in

2226
02:06:56,960 --> 02:06:58,840
Speaker 1: the fact that if you Go To, mexico city and

2227
02:06:58,880 --> 02:07:03,400
Speaker 1: that's another market that they've long been trying to generate

2228
02:07:03,440 --> 02:07:04,040
Speaker 1: an Interest In.

2229
02:07:04,520 --> 02:07:06,720
Speaker 2: Mexico, city anyway.

2230
02:07:06,360 --> 02:07:09,000
Speaker 1: My, POINT being i would think these are things that

2231
02:07:09,040 --> 02:07:10,560
Speaker 1: will come up in discussion at the.

2232
02:07:10,560 --> 02:07:14,240
Speaker 2: Owners meeting there were two Rule, proposals jake one By

2233
02:07:14,280 --> 02:07:18,280
Speaker 2: The cleveland browns and the other By The. Pittsburgh steelers

2234
02:07:19,320 --> 02:07:19,960
Speaker 2: which one would?

2235
02:07:19,960 --> 02:07:20,040
Speaker 6: You?

2236
02:07:20,080 --> 02:07:24,640
Speaker 2: Like first we'll go With the browns because that's probably destined.

2237
02:07:24,640 --> 02:07:30,320
Speaker 3: To fail cleveland proposed CHANGING the nfl draft pick trading

2238
02:07:30,360 --> 02:07:32,160
Speaker 3: eligibility to five.

2239
02:07:32,280 --> 02:07:42,360
Speaker 2: Years, out okay what is? It? Now? Three okay.

2240
02:07:43,720 --> 02:07:45,920
Speaker 1: It gives you a little harder understanding of what you're,

2241
02:07:45,920 --> 02:07:46,480
Speaker 1: getting back.

2242
02:07:46,520 --> 02:07:51,560
Speaker 3: But Okay The pittsburgh steelers proposed a CHANGE to nfl,

2243
02:07:51,640 --> 02:07:57,600
Speaker 3: free agency allowing teams to directly contact up to five

2244
02:07:58,000 --> 02:08:04,000
Speaker 3: perspective unrestricted free agents during the league's legal. Tampering, window

2245
02:08:04,680 --> 02:08:06,240
Speaker 3: well how many are you allowed to legally?

2246
02:08:06,280 --> 02:08:12,320
Speaker 2: Tamper? With? Now zero, because wait it's. Illegal tampering.

2247
02:08:15,360 --> 02:08:18,160
Speaker 1: If it's the tampering period and, it's legal then you're

2248
02:08:18,200 --> 02:08:19,919
Speaker 1: allowed to talk, to, Somebody right otherwise?

2249
02:08:19,920 --> 02:08:27,040
Speaker 2: What's legal it's just the legal no. Speed zone there

2250
02:08:27,080 --> 02:08:28,600
Speaker 2: must be. A limit you must be allowed to talk

2251
02:08:28,640 --> 02:08:29,800
Speaker 2: to some but there's a limit, to it?

2252
02:08:29,880 --> 02:08:33,400
Speaker 3: Right, one sorry make one video or phone call. Per, player.

2253
02:08:36,120 --> 02:08:38,160
Speaker 2: Okay, you know doesn't saything, about.

2254
02:08:38,160 --> 02:08:43,040
Speaker 1: Texting Right kelvin samson's been hired By The pittsburgh steelers

2255
02:08:44,480 --> 02:08:52,440
Speaker 1: the sometimes and it's brilliant. Of them it's brilliant. Of

2256
02:08:52,440 --> 02:08:54,120
Speaker 1: THEM the nfl is brilliant in.

2257
02:08:54,160 --> 02:08:57,520
Speaker 2: This, REGARD oh i. Was right during legally.

2258
02:08:57,600 --> 02:09:00,720
Speaker 3: Tampering window UNDER current, nfl rules team are not allowed

2259
02:09:00,720 --> 02:09:02,960
Speaker 3: to make direct contact with the player who is set

2260
02:09:03,000 --> 02:09:05,120
Speaker 3: to become an unrestricted free agent at the start of

2261
02:09:05,160 --> 02:09:05,320
Speaker 3: the new.

2262
02:09:05,400 --> 02:09:10,200
Speaker 2: League year then what's the? Legal? Part, MEAN yeah I

2263
02:09:10,200 --> 02:09:11,120
Speaker 2: wish i could. Tell you.

2264
02:09:13,200 --> 02:09:15,560
Speaker 1: Then how did we get all of these announcements that

2265
02:09:15,600 --> 02:09:18,120
Speaker 1: were coming during the legal. Tampering period that's a. GREAT question,

2266
02:09:20,160 --> 02:09:26,560
Speaker 1: i mean here's WHAT the nfl is brilliant because It.

2267
02:09:26,720 --> 02:09:30,600
Speaker 1: Is march we're in the Middle Of. March Madness The

2268
02:09:30,600 --> 02:09:33,320
Speaker 1: sweet sixteen, Is here purdue's getting ready To play texas

2269
02:09:33,600 --> 02:09:35,400
Speaker 1: for the right to go to the. Regional finals and

2270
02:09:35,440 --> 02:09:37,680
Speaker 1: we're going to talk shift a lot more into that

2271
02:09:37,680 --> 02:09:39,520
Speaker 1: over the next two days because They play, thursday night

2272
02:09:39,840 --> 02:09:41,440
Speaker 1: and we'll go Down to austin and we'll talk to

2273
02:09:41,480 --> 02:09:43,400
Speaker 1: people That cover texas and we'll get you all caught

2274
02:09:43,440 --> 02:09:47,400
Speaker 1: up to speed. On, it Right and purdue does deserve better.

2275
02:09:47,440 --> 02:09:51,000
Speaker 1: Than that, they deserve. You Know i'm we've talked a

2276
02:09:51,000 --> 02:09:52,960
Speaker 1: lot about Like what purdue does in the tournament and,

2277
02:09:53,000 --> 02:09:56,920
Speaker 1: everything else but You've Got march madness.

2278
02:09:56,960 --> 02:09:57,360
Speaker 2: Going on.

2279
02:09:59,120 --> 02:10:01,800
Speaker 1: We are A mis it's the heading down into the

2280
02:10:01,800 --> 02:10:05,240
Speaker 1: home stretch OF the. Nba season not as Significant, in

2281
02:10:05,240 --> 02:10:09,800
Speaker 1: indianapolis but for the most part on, the calendar you've

2282
02:10:09,840 --> 02:10:14,280
Speaker 1: got baseball starting up. This week, auto racing whether you're

2283
02:10:14,280 --> 02:10:17,080
Speaker 1: a fan of, stock, car IndyCar whatever it, might be is,

2284
02:10:17,280 --> 02:10:17,680
Speaker 1: you know up.

2285
02:10:17,680 --> 02:10:21,000
Speaker 2: And running now you're Going. TO alabama i am Going,

2286
02:10:21,000 --> 02:10:22,200
Speaker 2: to alabama.

2287
02:10:23,320 --> 02:10:26,600
Speaker 1: Driving Down With michael Young, on friday AND then, i

2288
02:10:26,640 --> 02:10:28,120
Speaker 1: know And then i'll be Deaf.

2289
02:10:28,160 --> 02:10:31,880
Speaker 2: By sunday and so but all of that, going on

2290
02:10:31,960 --> 02:10:32,360
Speaker 2: and what are we.

2291
02:10:32,400 --> 02:10:35,000
Speaker 1: Talking about we're talking ABOUT the nfl owners meeting and

2292
02:10:35,080 --> 02:10:35,680
Speaker 1: the draft.

2293
02:10:35,720 --> 02:10:38,200
Speaker 2: AND everything, I mean, i MEAN the.

2294
02:10:37,920 --> 02:10:44,720
Speaker 1: Nfl, has masterfully masterfully set itself up to always be in.

2295
02:10:44,760 --> 02:10:48,839
Speaker 2: The conversation it is a twelve.

2296
02:10:48,920 --> 02:10:56,760
Speaker 1: Month calendar, January Playoffs February, Super Bowl march, Owners Meeting

2297
02:10:57,760 --> 02:11:00,840
Speaker 1: april draft throw, the combine by. The way they're In,

2298
02:11:00,920 --> 02:11:08,680
Speaker 1: Late February, April draft may getting Ready for OTA's. Rookie

2299
02:11:08,760 --> 02:11:15,280
Speaker 1: camp june throw somewhere, in here by, the way like schedule,

2300
02:11:15,360 --> 02:11:16,320
Speaker 1: release day.

2301
02:11:17,960 --> 02:11:18,480
Speaker 2: Two different.

2302
02:11:18,480 --> 02:11:23,120
Speaker 1: OWNERS meetings i mean, right now it's, mock draft, mock draft,

2303
02:11:23,160 --> 02:11:26,600
Speaker 1: mock draft by. The Way And omar cooper apparently has

2304
02:11:26,600 --> 02:11:28,880
Speaker 1: worked his way into the first. ROUND discussion, i know

2305
02:11:30,760 --> 02:11:34,040
Speaker 1: one of the biggest winners. So Far If I'm, Omar

2306
02:11:34,120 --> 02:11:37,120
Speaker 1: cooper i'm doing nothing but. Showing too i'm literally walking

2307
02:11:37,120 --> 02:11:42,040
Speaker 1: into my, job interview and when they say what can

2308
02:11:42,080 --> 02:11:44,880
Speaker 1: you do? FOR us i put in the tape Of

2309
02:11:44,880 --> 02:11:47,920
Speaker 1: The penn state play there, you go.

2310
02:11:49,280 --> 02:11:49,760
Speaker 2: And any.

2311
02:11:49,760 --> 02:11:53,600
Speaker 1: Other questions i'm nine and a half feet off the

2312
02:11:53,680 --> 02:11:57,840
Speaker 1: GROUND and i bring the ball down and perfectly tap

2313
02:11:57,920 --> 02:12:00,000
Speaker 1: my toe and get it in. The body control every

2314
02:12:00,040 --> 02:12:03,360
Speaker 1: thing about that play that might have been the biggest

2315
02:12:03,400 --> 02:12:04,000
Speaker 1: anomaly of.

2316
02:12:04,040 --> 02:12:07,640
Speaker 2: All, time, fine fine we'll. Take IT.

2317
02:12:09,440 --> 02:12:12,600
Speaker 1: If i was a college baseball player and there's one

2318
02:12:12,640 --> 02:12:15,680
Speaker 1: play of me hitting a ball That Leaves yankee STADIUM

2319
02:12:15,680 --> 02:12:17,800
Speaker 1: because i hit a five hundred and ninety five foot.

2320
02:12:17,800 --> 02:12:20,200
Speaker 2: Home run there. You, go there there's. My tape see you.

2321
02:12:20,720 --> 02:12:25,360
Speaker 1: Any questions here's might never, Call me, google me but

2322
02:12:25,520 --> 02:12:28,280
Speaker 1: good for him that he's worked his way into the

2323
02:12:28,280 --> 02:12:29,920
Speaker 1: first round and it looks like that's, you know he

2324
02:12:29,960 --> 02:12:32,760
Speaker 1: may go, And again mendoza is a big part, of

2325
02:12:32,760 --> 02:12:34,400
Speaker 1: That but cooper's also a big Part. OF mendeaux, i

2326
02:12:34,440 --> 02:12:37,400
Speaker 1: mean without, that Catch does mendoza Win? The heisman, et cetera.

2327
02:12:37,480 --> 02:12:38,840
Speaker 2: Et cetera?

2328
02:12:38,960 --> 02:12:42,040
Speaker 1: Who KNOWS h jmb And The building crossover brought to

2329
02:12:42,040 --> 02:12:43,520
Speaker 1: you by the good guys that love heating in their

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Speaker 1: LOVE dash hvac dot com three, one seven three five

2331
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2332
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Speaker 2: Coming up.

2333
02:12:51,000 --> 02:12:54,320
Speaker 1: By, The, way eddie do you recall recently when we

2334
02:12:54,360 --> 02:12:59,600
Speaker 1: had on the women's basketball Coach From marion university a

2335
02:12:59,680 --> 02:13:01,560
Speaker 1: couple of. Weeks Ago if i'm, not mistaken it was

2336
02:13:01,600 --> 02:13:06,000
Speaker 1: part Of our franciscan health, feel good good For The

2337
02:13:06,080 --> 02:13:07,400
Speaker 1: heart friday.

2338
02:13:08,480 --> 02:13:13,600
Speaker 2: And at that time it was a great story because.

2339
02:13:15,080 --> 02:13:17,960
Speaker 1: We were talking about the fact that the women's basketball

2340
02:13:18,000 --> 02:13:21,640
Speaker 1: team was on. Their way they WERE writing i believe

2341
02:13:21,640 --> 02:13:25,160
Speaker 1: an eight game win streak at. That time they have

2342
02:13:25,400 --> 02:13:31,480
Speaker 1: two players on the roster whose mother tragically passed away

2343
02:13:31,680 --> 02:13:37,080
Speaker 1: from a. Heart, attack actually and the team kind of.

2344
02:13:37,120 --> 02:13:41,400
Speaker 1: Banded together they, already were, you know a nationally, ranked

2345
02:13:41,400 --> 02:13:46,800
Speaker 1: team but they kind of banded together to finish strong on.

2346
02:13:46,920 --> 02:13:50,520
Speaker 1: The season and now here they are at thirty four

2347
02:13:50,640 --> 02:13:56,160
Speaker 1: and two and playing tonight at eight o'clock Against dort

2348
02:13:56,280 --> 02:14:00,800
Speaker 1: University of iowa IN the Nai Eight national.

2349
02:14:00,520 --> 02:14:02,400
Speaker 2: Championship game this evening at.

2350
02:14:02,440 --> 02:14:06,880
Speaker 1: Eight O'clock, so giants we wish the nights the very

2351
02:14:06,920 --> 02:14:08,760
Speaker 1: best of Luck From.

2352
02:14:08,800 --> 02:14:11,840
Speaker 2: Marion university very, very cool. No question for, SOME reason

2353
02:14:11,880 --> 02:14:13,959
Speaker 2: i Was. THINKING wabash i don't. Know, why.

2354
02:14:15,240 --> 02:14:18,400
Speaker 1: Well when it comes to, women's basketball if they had That, At, wabash.

2355
02:14:18,120 --> 02:14:20,920
Speaker 3: Yeah That's, EXACTLY yeah i.

2356
02:14:20,960 --> 02:14:23,200
Speaker 2: Know, that yeah. Uh huh have you ever been To

2357
02:14:23,200 --> 02:14:24,840
Speaker 2: The monigon? Bell game Total, GAFF no i.

2358
02:14:24,840 --> 02:14:25,120
Speaker 6: Have not.

2359
02:14:26,080 --> 02:14:29,480
Speaker 2: It's great there are.

2360
02:14:32,040 --> 02:14:35,240
Speaker 1: Two things when it comes to smaller Schools in INDIANA

2361
02:14:35,360 --> 02:14:36,480
Speaker 1: that i think everyone.

2362
02:14:36,560 --> 02:14:39,480
Speaker 2: Should Do The Monion bell game. Is one.

2363
02:14:39,480 --> 02:14:39,920
Speaker 4: OF them.

2364
02:14:41,480 --> 02:14:44,120
Speaker 2: I went four times. In college wabash is four.

2365
02:14:44,000 --> 02:14:46,960
Speaker 1: And Oh and i've always kind of Rooted for wabash

2366
02:14:47,080 --> 02:14:48,200
Speaker 1: Over The paul no Offense to.

2367
02:14:48,320 --> 02:14:56,200
Speaker 2: Tiger friends and the other Would Be silent night Up.

2368
02:14:56,200 --> 02:15:00,600
Speaker 2: At taylor we went to that, last year.

2369
02:15:02,600 --> 02:15:06,080
Speaker 1: And, YOU know i remember talking about IT when i

2370
02:15:06,400 --> 02:15:08,480
Speaker 1: came back, from it but it really was for those

2371
02:15:08,520 --> 02:15:11,840
Speaker 1: that Are Unfamiliar taylor university of the, basketball program they

2372
02:15:11,920 --> 02:15:16,200
Speaker 1: Do in December Their silent night game where the, you

2373
02:15:16,200 --> 02:15:19,040
Speaker 1: know everybody's silent until the, tenth point and then everybody

2374
02:15:19,040 --> 02:15:21,720
Speaker 1: goes crazy and the game is interrupted and the kids

2375
02:15:21,800 --> 02:15:23,600
Speaker 1: rush the court and then at the end of the

2376
02:15:23,600 --> 02:15:27,760
Speaker 1: game they All Sing. Silent NIGHT and i know that

2377
02:15:27,800 --> 02:15:31,560
Speaker 1: THERE'S been i have seen people who have been critical

2378
02:15:31,600 --> 02:15:33,760
Speaker 1: of that game because, they, say oh that's it's making

2379
02:15:33,760 --> 02:15:38,120
Speaker 1: a mockery of the, game itself and it's unfair to

2380
02:15:38,160 --> 02:15:40,760
Speaker 1: the other team because it's dangerous because the students rush.

2381
02:15:40,800 --> 02:15:44,160
Speaker 1: The court the, other team which is usually a theologically.

2382
02:15:44,160 --> 02:15:46,840
Speaker 1: Based university it's been the same for the last couple.

2383
02:15:46,880 --> 02:15:49,440
Speaker 1: OF years i think they know the, whole, Deal right

2384
02:15:50,520 --> 02:15:54,280
Speaker 1: BUT as i mentioned at, the time the thing about

2385
02:15:54,360 --> 02:16:00,000
Speaker 1: going To See silent Night at Taylor is it's very

2386
02:16:00,120 --> 02:16:01,800
Speaker 1: easy to roll your eyes at it and think it's

2387
02:16:01,880 --> 02:16:06,320
Speaker 1: kind of this hokey tradition or. Whatever Else but taylor

2388
02:16:06,560 --> 02:16:12,280
Speaker 1: is a faith based university and it is a night

2389
02:16:12,360 --> 02:16:18,440
Speaker 1: when all of. The students sport is the opportunity to

2390
02:16:18,640 --> 02:16:23,680
Speaker 1: open or use platform for. Different areas at Big time division,

2391
02:16:23,720 --> 02:16:27,840
Speaker 1: one universities sport is oftentimes what allows its student athletes

2392
02:16:28,280 --> 02:16:33,160
Speaker 1: to spring board onto a, professional career or the university

2393
02:16:33,160 --> 02:16:37,760
Speaker 1: itself to utilize sport to generate revenue and interest in

2394
02:16:37,840 --> 02:16:38,400
Speaker 1: boosters and.

2395
02:16:38,440 --> 02:16:39,240
Speaker 2: Everything else.

2396
02:16:41,120 --> 02:16:44,200
Speaker 1: And for, some places sports are simply a way for

2397
02:16:44,320 --> 02:16:48,800
Speaker 1: young people to get an opportunity at a. Free education And,

2398
02:16:48,840 --> 02:16:51,640
Speaker 1: at taylor the Thing About silent NIGHT that i LEARNED

2399
02:16:51,680 --> 02:16:54,520
Speaker 1: when i went up to it was that for, those

2400
02:16:54,760 --> 02:17:01,440
Speaker 1: students sports is an avenue that facilitates for them to

2401
02:17:01,520 --> 02:17:04,280
Speaker 1: be able to show the rest of the world the

2402
02:17:04,360 --> 02:17:08,360
Speaker 1: significance and the importance of their faith and to share

2403
02:17:08,440 --> 02:17:13,000
Speaker 1: that and By Singing silent night at the end, of

2404
02:17:13,040 --> 02:17:16,720
Speaker 1: it to letting the world see what it is that

2405
02:17:16,800 --> 02:17:19,680
Speaker 1: even though the game is, taking place that to them

2406
02:17:19,760 --> 02:17:23,279
Speaker 1: it is, exactly that and that there is a, bigger

2407
02:17:24,600 --> 02:17:28,280
Speaker 1: purpose a, bigger desire a bigger celebration in the Month

2408
02:17:28,320 --> 02:17:31,520
Speaker 1: of december than just the tenth point of a. Basketball

2409
02:17:31,560 --> 02:17:34,400
Speaker 1: game and it wasn't REALLY until i went up there

2410
02:17:34,440 --> 02:17:36,280
Speaker 1: and saw it with my own two eyes and then

2411
02:17:36,360 --> 02:17:39,800
Speaker 1: witnessed the Kids Singing silent night at the end of,

2412
02:17:39,800 --> 02:17:41,879
Speaker 1: the GAME that i truly.

2413
02:17:43,680 --> 02:17:44,480
Speaker 2: Felt that or.

2414
02:17:44,600 --> 02:17:49,519
Speaker 1: Understood it and so, it WAS and i always appreciated

2415
02:17:50,400 --> 02:17:54,320
Speaker 1: that they to me made me aware of my own

2416
02:17:55,800 --> 02:17:59,120
Speaker 1: arrogant naivete towards all. Of it AND so i think

2417
02:17:59,160 --> 02:18:02,160
Speaker 1: everybody should go. To that and the same is true

2418
02:18:02,160 --> 02:18:06,640
Speaker 1: to a, great extent not from the faith based origin,

2419
02:18:06,720 --> 02:18:10,879
Speaker 1: of it But The monon, bell game just the fact

2420
02:18:11,000 --> 02:18:14,039
Speaker 1: that it is two universities that are close to, one

2421
02:18:14,040 --> 02:18:19,240
Speaker 1: another that so much of the going to school there

2422
02:18:19,360 --> 02:18:23,760
Speaker 1: is about the good natured rivalry with the other school

2423
02:18:23,840 --> 02:18:26,560
Speaker 1: right up. The road And for marion and the women's,

2424
02:18:26,600 --> 02:18:31,279
Speaker 1: Basketball program marion again a school that is based an origin,

2425
02:18:31,400 --> 02:18:35,680
Speaker 1: on faith and for a women's basketball team that has

2426
02:18:36,440 --> 02:18:40,280
Speaker 1: two girls, on it to women on the team who

2427
02:18:40,320 --> 02:18:42,959
Speaker 1: lost their mother and they already were having a phenomenal

2428
02:18:43,000 --> 02:18:48,520
Speaker 1: season and then to come back three days later or

2429
02:18:48,560 --> 02:18:50,920
Speaker 1: whatever it was and play a game where one of

2430
02:18:50,959 --> 02:18:54,680
Speaker 1: those two women had close to a, triple double and

2431
02:18:55,000 --> 02:19:00,959
Speaker 1: they ride this, winning streak and they found comfort in,

2432
02:19:01,040 --> 02:19:05,280
Speaker 1: one another and they found an inner piece within. One

2433
02:19:05,320 --> 02:19:09,320
Speaker 1: another and so to be able to do that and

2434
02:19:09,400 --> 02:19:15,039
Speaker 1: now find themselves, where gosh they're, potentially here, you know eight,

2435
02:19:15,080 --> 02:19:20,560
Speaker 1: hours away nine hours away from being national CHAMPIONS in

2436
02:19:20,680 --> 02:19:24,400
Speaker 1: ai and national champions is OUTSTANDING and Da, Coach Anderson

2437
02:19:24,480 --> 02:19:27,680
Speaker 1: santanna anderson and the rest of the nights best of luck,

2438
02:19:27,680 --> 02:19:31,080
Speaker 1: to him. Without question lakers in action tomorrow night Against

2439
02:19:31,120 --> 02:19:33,000
Speaker 1: the pacers at The. Field, house eddie what is your

2440
02:19:33,040 --> 02:19:36,920
Speaker 1: big agenda for? This evening not a, Whole, lot jake

2441
02:19:36,959 --> 02:19:37,800
Speaker 1: painting your face for?

2442
02:19:37,879 --> 02:19:42,400
Speaker 3: Opening, Day, no no THAT'S why i won't Be. Here thursday,

2443
02:19:43,160 --> 02:19:45,920
Speaker 3: That's right you're going, Down right i'm going Over to Cincinnati. On,

2444
02:19:46,000 --> 02:19:48,440
Speaker 3: thursday yeah First time i've heard they do a different.

2445
02:19:48,440 --> 02:19:50,879
Speaker 3: Over There and i've never Been lifelong, reds friend as,

2446
02:19:50,920 --> 02:19:53,760
Speaker 3: you know AND so i, was like you, know what,

2447
02:19:54,240 --> 02:19:55,120
Speaker 3: why not let's got.

2448
02:19:55,280 --> 02:19:56,520
Speaker 2: SOME FUN j andv.

2449
02:19:56,640 --> 02:19:58,800
Speaker 1: Has arrived crossover brought to you by the good guys that.

2450
02:19:58,879 --> 02:20:01,200
Speaker 1: Love Heating an air is WEARING a t Shirt that

2451
02:20:01,240 --> 02:20:03,080
Speaker 1: i'm going to give him a. Tribute question i'm guessing

2452
02:20:03,080 --> 02:20:04,720
Speaker 1: that he's going to. KNOW it i did not. KNOW

2453
02:20:04,800 --> 02:20:09,240
Speaker 1: this i did Not know john when we were kids

2454
02:20:09,840 --> 02:20:13,400
Speaker 1: And the smurfs really hit it Big On saturday morning cartoons.

2455
02:20:13,480 --> 02:20:16,680
Speaker 1: Early eighties basically, right right you could buy the little.

2456
02:20:16,720 --> 02:20:17,959
Speaker 1: Rubber figurines they were a.

2457
02:20:17,959 --> 02:20:18,160
Speaker 2: Big.

2458
02:20:18,200 --> 02:20:24,160
Speaker 1: DEAL yeah i did not KNOW until i was on

2459
02:20:24,280 --> 02:20:27,320
Speaker 1: vacation in a particular city and they Had a, smurf

2460
02:20:27,480 --> 02:20:31,680
Speaker 1: museum AND then i Realized the smurfs were EVERYWHERE and

2461
02:20:31,800 --> 02:20:35,039
Speaker 1: i was at the place that was the origin Of

2462
02:20:35,080 --> 02:20:37,640
Speaker 1: the smurfs from like the fifties is when.

2463
02:20:37,680 --> 02:20:39,400
Speaker 2: They started do you know where? IT was i. Don't, Know.

2464
02:20:39,920 --> 02:20:43,039
Speaker 1: Brussels, BELGIUM really i thought it Was. SOMETHING european i

2465
02:20:43,080 --> 02:20:45,480
Speaker 1: had no idea That the Smurfs. Were belgian it's a.

2466
02:20:45,480 --> 02:20:46,000
Speaker 2: Whole thing it Was.

2467
02:20:46,120 --> 02:20:50,320
Speaker 7: Very european do you remember The Villain gargamel gargamel and the.

2468
02:20:50,360 --> 02:20:55,080
Speaker 2: Villain's, cat okay, HOLD on i do, know, this, Yes Yes, Azureel, Asrael.

2469
02:20:55,360 --> 02:21:00,000
Speaker 1: Azrael azrael they and they how how big?

2470
02:21:00,240 --> 02:21:02,959
Speaker 2: Were smurfs they? Were little it was like living in, the,

2471
02:21:03,000 --> 02:21:03,640
Speaker 2: grass right yeah?

2472
02:21:03,640 --> 02:21:03,720
Speaker 4: They?

2473
02:21:03,760 --> 02:21:06,280
Speaker 7: Did, YEAH well I mean i got sleep the sleepy

2474
02:21:06,280 --> 02:21:09,600
Speaker 7: one right here is taking a nap under, A toadstool, i,

2475
02:21:09,640 --> 02:21:13,040
Speaker 7: think right, so yeah about. That's all how Old Was

2476
02:21:13,080 --> 02:21:17,560
Speaker 7: papa smurf? You, think yeah probably a couple of. DIFFERENT

2477
02:21:17,600 --> 02:21:18,440
Speaker 7: eras i Think Was?

2478
02:21:18,480 --> 02:21:22,080
Speaker 3: Papa Smurf, THE smurf, i mean like honestly they had

2479
02:21:22,200 --> 02:21:23,000
Speaker 3: they had a run there in.

2480
02:21:23,000 --> 02:21:24,000
Speaker 2: The, eighties man They were.

2481
02:21:23,840 --> 02:21:24,400
Speaker 6: Did you have A?

2482
02:21:24,440 --> 02:21:27,080
Speaker 2: Favorite? Smurf hefty you?

2483
02:21:27,160 --> 02:21:30,600
Speaker 1: KNOW what i basically any, was strong but.

2484
02:21:30,680 --> 02:21:32,000
Speaker 2: NOT fat i Don't.

2485
02:21:32,000 --> 02:21:35,640
Speaker 1: REMEMBER hafty i mean, THERE was i just remember having

2486
02:21:35,680 --> 02:21:40,120
Speaker 1: the remember fat, well, Fat right but BUT the i

2487
02:21:40,200 --> 02:21:43,920
Speaker 1: remember they had different like sport versions you could get

2488
02:21:43,959 --> 02:21:45,960
Speaker 1: in the, little figurines like one with a, baseball bat

2489
02:21:46,080 --> 02:21:48,520
Speaker 1: one WITH so i don't remember their names, per SE.

2490
02:21:48,680 --> 02:21:51,400
Speaker 2: But i did love it ground ge the. They were

2491
02:21:51,440 --> 02:21:53,680
Speaker 2: it was kind of Like The seven. Dwarfs, qacts, yeah

2492
02:21:53,800 --> 02:21:59,440
Speaker 2: right very much So. THE smurfs i Feel like I'm A.

2493
02:21:59,520 --> 02:22:00,240
Speaker 2: KING'S island.

2494
02:22:01,640 --> 02:22:04,039
Speaker 1: I was so mad by The way john in the

2495
02:22:04,080 --> 02:22:06,080
Speaker 1: MID nineties i Went To king's island and we went

2496
02:22:06,080 --> 02:22:07,879
Speaker 1: to remember the big television where he put through the

2497
02:22:07,920 --> 02:22:09,879
Speaker 1: floating boat and it was awesome.

2498
02:22:09,600 --> 02:22:10,840
Speaker 2: Because the air conditioning and that thing.

2499
02:22:10,879 --> 02:22:13,480
Speaker 1: Was awesome and so you go through and It Was

2500
02:22:13,520 --> 02:22:16,320
Speaker 1: Hannah barbara land and Then Also smurf village or whatever

2501
02:22:16,360 --> 02:22:18,480
Speaker 1: for years when you went through that television AND then

2502
02:22:18,520 --> 02:22:20,120
Speaker 1: i went back in the mid nineties and it's it

2503
02:22:20,200 --> 02:22:21,320
Speaker 1: was now like a hunted house.

2504
02:22:21,400 --> 02:22:22,040
Speaker 2: Or something, i'm like what?

2505
02:22:22,120 --> 02:22:24,520
Speaker 7: Is THIS so i will, say this one of the

2506
02:22:24,600 --> 02:22:27,120
Speaker 7: worst parts about Going To king's island in the summer

2507
02:22:27,560 --> 02:22:30,640
Speaker 7: would be going through one of those wet those.

2508
02:22:30,680 --> 02:22:32,520
Speaker 2: Water rides so if you did that with jeans on at,

2509
02:22:32,520 --> 02:22:32,920
Speaker 2: the beginning you.

2510
02:22:33,000 --> 02:22:35,959
Speaker 7: Were screwed for, me well and then there's the chafing

2511
02:22:36,120 --> 02:22:38,880
Speaker 7: was just, all day no matter what you. WERE on

2512
02:22:39,760 --> 02:22:43,119
Speaker 7: i put my money in a plastic bag and put

2513
02:22:43,120 --> 02:22:46,560
Speaker 7: it in my shoes because you couldn't have a wallet

2514
02:22:46,640 --> 02:22:48,080
Speaker 7: or in it don't get, All WET so i put

2515
02:22:48,120 --> 02:22:50,440
Speaker 7: it in a plastic so a little plastic bag and

2516
02:22:50,480 --> 02:22:50,840
Speaker 7: put it in.

2517
02:22:50,840 --> 02:22:53,280
Speaker 1: My shoes which water ride was? THE best, I Mean

2518
02:22:53,320 --> 02:22:55,840
Speaker 1: whitewater canyon was later in, the year and that got

2519
02:22:55,879 --> 02:22:56,720
Speaker 1: you the most wet.

2520
02:22:56,800 --> 02:22:59,280
Speaker 7: RIGHT there i mean the long rides they'll get you

2521
02:22:59,320 --> 02:23:02,640
Speaker 7: a little bit your feet was, pretty awesome, right yeah

2522
02:23:02,680 --> 02:23:06,080
Speaker 7: they would the, log rides and we were talking about

2523
02:23:06,120 --> 02:23:08,600
Speaker 7: that yesterday with what was your favorite roller coaster over

2524
02:23:08,600 --> 02:23:08,800
Speaker 7: there of?

2525
02:23:08,840 --> 02:23:11,720
Speaker 1: ALL time, i Mean the beast is pretty hard To

2526
02:23:11,800 --> 02:23:14,760
Speaker 1: argue i'll tell. You what The, Screaming, demon yeah screaming

2527
02:23:14,800 --> 02:23:15,600
Speaker 1: demon backwards.

2528
02:23:15,640 --> 02:23:19,360
Speaker 2: Was Something But king kobra right there with you On

2529
02:23:19,400 --> 02:23:21,160
Speaker 2: The King cold Fortex was.

2530
02:23:21,240 --> 02:23:23,879
Speaker 1: Vortex one vortex was, later that but that Was the

2531
02:23:23,959 --> 02:23:27,160
Speaker 1: vortex was basically just the metal answer to, the, beast?

2532
02:23:27,240 --> 02:23:30,360
Speaker 2: Right yeah and the beast was? Would okay? The beast?

2533
02:23:31,640 --> 02:23:37,199
Speaker 1: On which how? About this on? Which Ride did Jan

2534
02:23:37,520 --> 02:23:38,920
Speaker 1: Leave mike's prince?

2535
02:23:39,920 --> 02:23:40,000
Speaker 2: The?

2536
02:23:40,040 --> 02:23:42,640
Speaker 7: Canoes correct they were in the bottom of. The canoes

2537
02:23:42,800 --> 02:23:44,560
Speaker 7: did you ever we were all over that. Little island

2538
02:23:44,600 --> 02:23:47,000
Speaker 7: did you ever see anybody puke over there off?

2539
02:23:47,040 --> 02:23:47,080
Speaker 4: Of?

2540
02:23:47,200 --> 02:23:49,840
Speaker 1: Ride uh never DID see i don't, think so although

2541
02:23:49,840 --> 02:23:51,600
Speaker 1: it would have been the One that alice got stuck

2542
02:23:51,640 --> 02:23:51,840
Speaker 1: on the.

2543
02:23:52,040 --> 02:23:52,400
Speaker 2: Spinning.

2544
02:23:52,400 --> 02:23:55,840
Speaker 7: Barrels right the ONLY time I saw anyboddy puke and

2545
02:23:55,840 --> 02:23:58,040
Speaker 7: and shout out. To him It Was rex bryant on

2546
02:23:58,080 --> 02:24:00,440
Speaker 7: our bus we were going. Over there this was, my

2547
02:24:00,560 --> 02:24:03,880
Speaker 7: class and he puked out the window of the bus

2548
02:24:03,879 --> 02:24:06,480
Speaker 7: and the parking lot as we, got there because everybody

2549
02:24:06,520 --> 02:24:12,080
Speaker 7: on that bus. Was Hammered, huncle Bury, HOWD rodeine i

2550
02:24:12,120 --> 02:24:12,959
Speaker 7: can still see it.

2551
02:24:13,040 --> 02:24:17,160
Speaker 2: Right, now wait we weren't in the, Fifth, grade, yeah yeah.

2552
02:24:17,280 --> 02:24:20,879
Speaker 7: It, wasn't yeah we had. We had we had the

2553
02:24:20,920 --> 02:24:21,840
Speaker 7: best chaperone of.

2554
02:24:21,840 --> 02:24:22,560
Speaker 6: All time.

2555
02:24:24,080 --> 02:24:26,720
Speaker 7: We were, passing around passing around some of the nectar

2556
02:24:26,720 --> 02:24:29,360
Speaker 7: of the gods on that bus, back there And. AND

2557
02:24:29,520 --> 02:24:32,040
Speaker 7: rex i Love rex man still to. This day rex

2558
02:24:32,120 --> 02:24:33,560
Speaker 7: is a. Good dude but he puked right out the

2559
02:24:33,560 --> 02:24:34,080
Speaker 7: bus one.

2560
02:24:34,280 --> 02:24:37,160
Speaker 1: You know the one ride that was Underrated, The, eagles

2561
02:24:37,520 --> 02:24:39,560
Speaker 1: yeah you know The wooden eagles thing that you could

2562
02:24:39,840 --> 02:24:41,640
Speaker 1: you just. Flat man it was a great way to just,

2563
02:24:41,680 --> 02:24:43,720
Speaker 1: cool off get, a breeze dry off after you've been

2564
02:24:43,760 --> 02:24:43,880
Speaker 1: on the.

2565
02:24:43,920 --> 02:24:46,120
Speaker 2: Log flume how much is the slice of pizza over?

2566
02:24:46,160 --> 02:24:48,160
Speaker 7: There now has got to be like twenty, five dollars,

2567
02:24:48,200 --> 02:24:51,080
Speaker 7: no question because it was like five five dollars for

2568
02:24:51,120 --> 02:24:51,520
Speaker 7: a slice.

2569
02:24:51,560 --> 02:24:53,120
Speaker 2: Of pizza they had a.

2570
02:24:53,160 --> 02:24:55,640
Speaker 1: Pop Up red's gift shop that was right outside The.

2571
02:24:55,640 --> 02:24:57,879
Speaker 1: LOG flume i always one Of The Joe. Morgan jersey,

2572
02:24:58,120 --> 02:24:59,920
Speaker 1: All right john's what's on the big pro?

2573
02:25:00,680 --> 02:25:02,039
Speaker 2: We are what are we? Doing?

2574
02:25:02,080 --> 02:25:04,600
Speaker 7: Today oh TOM creen a little bit, Later on JJ's

2575
02:25:04,640 --> 02:25:07,000
Speaker 7: going to Join us rakestraw about the. State finals so

2576
02:25:07,040 --> 02:25:11,320
Speaker 7: we're locked with everything everybody needs To know jake later,

2577
02:25:11,360 --> 02:25:13,080
Speaker 7: on today including a pacer win.

2578
02:25:13,280 --> 02:25:14,440
Speaker 2: Last night, all right johns.

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Speaker 1: Up next we will be back with you at, noon

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Speaker 1: TOMORROW and i thank you for Listening To.

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Speaker 2: Quey company