1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: Breaking news. What's that big breaking news? 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 2: Is it the Mike Tyson Mayweather fight? 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: Are you sitting down? 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 2: Yes? 5 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: Are you holding onto your chair with both hands? 6 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 2: Got it? 7 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: This is really going to blow you away? 8 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 2: What is it? 9 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 3: It turns out Joe Hawks said is a pretty crummy 10 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 3: guy to work for. 11 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 4: Really, surprise, surprise, some cracks in the facade, as some 12 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 4: people are coming forward to do a little complaining a 13 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 4: little telling about what's going on. 14 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:36,599 Speaker 3: Okay, So miror Indy has a new article out our 15 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 3: old pal, Peter Blanchard, friend of the show, the author 16 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 3: of the article, talking about these people who are beginning 17 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 3: to speak out about what a complete dumpster fire in 18 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:52,919 Speaker 3: the city Hall is. And I'm reading this article and 19 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 3: Peter's a wonderful writer, and Mire Indy does does a 20 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 3: fine job. But I'm reading this and it's like, I'm 21 00:00:58,600 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 3: not surprise. 22 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 2: Is it like a well done Yeah? 23 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: Well that's the point. 24 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 3: I mean, like it's one of these things that even 25 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 3: maybe five or six years ago, you'd have seen it 26 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 3: in a print you'd be like, oh my gosh, this 27 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 3: is unbelievable because they go into detail about that, they 28 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 3: talk to these you know, people, et cetera. And and 29 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 3: you know, the culture of fear, I think is the 30 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 3: one of the phrases they use about working in there. 31 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 3: And it's like five or six years ago, even you 32 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 3: would have said pre COVID you would oh man, this 33 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 3: is an unbelievable expose. 34 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: Now you're just like mm hmm, you already knew that. 35 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it is not any. 36 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 3: Way to mean the work they're doing, but it's just 37 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 3: so blatantly obvious. 38 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 1: What a complete train wreck. 39 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 3: The mayor of Indianapolis is, both professionally or personally, which 40 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 3: then bleeds into his professional administration of city government. 41 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: And this doesn't surprise me at all. 42 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 43 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 4: At least eight director level staffers have left in the 44 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 4: past year or two. Deputy mayor positions remain unfilled, and 45 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 4: according to some of these interviews, they describe the leadership 46 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 4: culture driven by yelling, intimidation, and also retaliation, and many 47 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,399 Speaker 4: people have felt discouraged from reporting the issues because they 48 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 4: fear backlash from the mayor. 49 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 3: It is very rare, and this is true in almost 50 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 3: any industry. When people's personal life is in turmoil, it 51 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 3: doesn't bleed into their professional existence. 52 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: It's only human nature. 53 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 3: Like very few people have a shut off valve to 54 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 3: be able to experimentalize, right, Yes, that's the perfect word. 55 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 3: Thank you, to be able to completely separate. And I'm 56 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 3: just talking about, like if you know you're having a 57 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 3: bad event in your personal life. I'm not talking about 58 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 3: systemic issues that allegedly are plaguing the mayor of the 59 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 3: city of Indianapolis. I'm just even talking about, like, you know, 60 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 3: if you've got a loved one who's ill, or you 61 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 3: know a family member who passes away, or you know 62 00:02:56,120 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 3: some you know, unforeseen financial event like I don't know, 63 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 3: your refrigerator stops working and. 64 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 2: It puts you in a bad mood for a day. 65 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: Well, that's saying it's really it's really hard. 66 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 3: Now, luckily I can take that rage and I can 67 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 3: bring it to the politicians here every day. 68 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, redirect, but right. 69 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 3: So, think about if you're a person like Joe hawks 70 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 3: And who is alleged to have some pretty serious personal 71 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 3: demons and may or may not actually run into him. 72 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: And we all saw the video last year. They I'm not. 73 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 3: Running for anything, I'm running from you know where the 74 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 3: guy appears to have something. 75 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: Prohibiting a clear train. 76 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 3: Of thought slash rational speech right on a on a 77 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 3: on a public stage that that's not going to dramatically 78 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 3: affect not just the job you do, but how you 79 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 3: be behaving, the environment you create for the people under you. 80 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 4: It's like a refrigerator breaks every single day. There have 81 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 4: been multiple accounts detailing abuse of behavior, behavior, public humiliation, yelling, 82 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 4: dismissive treatment, which has led to some of the resignations 83 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 4: and some people claiming poor mental health. 84 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 2: Now not all of the employers are agreeing. 85 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 4: Some are chalking it up to hog Set's behavior as 86 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 4: being more old school leadership, akin to a Bob Knight personality. 87 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 4: But I gotta say, even if Bob Knight was in 88 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 4: a position of leadership and was acting the way he 89 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 4: used to, it wouldn't be tolerated today. 90 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 3: No, But Bob Knight also won three national championships, right, 91 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 3: and had numerous Big ten championships, And every year the 92 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 3: team was in the tournament, and every most years you 93 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 3: said when the season started, hey, this could be the 94 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 3: you know the year, and they were a top twenty 95 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 3: five team. 96 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. Could. 97 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 4: We're on the top of lists now in Indianapolis, but 98 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 4: not good lists. 99 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 2: They're like crime lists. 100 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 3: Well that's that's the thing. Right is what is the 101 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 3: what do you call it? The peda level in that 102 00:04:56,080 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 3: which you're pain in the arse? Yes, and in the 103 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 3: case of a Joe Hog set, there are no incredible results. 104 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 3: Not again, it wouldn't be tolerated anyway if you were 105 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 3: behaving in a night fashion in twenty twenty five. But 106 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 3: there are no incredible results where the city goes, Oh, 107 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 3: that's just wacky Joe. He's just what a character. 108 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 2: His PEDA levels high, but he's worth it. 109 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 4: No, you always want to make sure your worth is 110 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 4: greater than your PEDA level. 111 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 3: And so it comes back to something Ryan Hedrick, our 112 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 3: beloved newsman, said on this program a couple of months ago, 113 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 3: when talking about as Ryan has been quite candid about 114 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 3: his struggles with addiction and recovery and the supporting Sobriety 115 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 3: podcast that he and Matt Bahar do. He said, look, 116 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 3: Joe Hogs, that runs the city the way I're in 117 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 3: my life in the throes of addiction, it's continual chaos. 118 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 3: Things get started, they don't get finished. Well, somebody else 119 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,799 Speaker 3: always you know, we'll figure it out later. 120 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: And that's the city. 121 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 3: Look at the construction, look at the roads, look at 122 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 3: look at everything. That is a guy that has no 123 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 3: is not in charge of himself. It appears much less. 124 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 3: He shouldn't be in charge of a city of all 125 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 3: these people. 126 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, so some of his team are denying any dysfunction. 127 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 4: They said a forty two percent increase in job applicants. 128 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 4: I don't think that has anything to do with the leadership. 129 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 4: That has more to do with people wanting a job. 130 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 4: And he did introduce that complaint system. He's pledged reform, but. 131 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 2: It seems like it's just a little bit too late. 132 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 4: You've got a mix of Democrats and Republicans on the 133 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 4: city County Council who publicly asked him to step down, 134 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 4: and there's just been so much controversy overshadowing his tenure 135 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 4: as mayor. 136 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 2: It's almost like, you know, when you've got these. 137 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 4: Yelling fits and disappearing acts and vanishing deputy mayors, it's 138 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 4: less like public service and more like a game of 139 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 4: political survivor. You know, people are removing themselves from the island, 140 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 4: and maybe it's time for someone. 141 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 2: At the top tof you voted off the island. 142 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: Well, but the city's not gonna change. And that's the point. 143 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 3: The city is not going to change because there's a 144 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 3: couple of reasons. One, for some reason, collectively the city 145 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 3: the Democrat Party has decided to protect and defend this guy. 146 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: I don't understand. I don't get it. 147 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 3: You can easily insert another plug and play Democrat in 148 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,679 Speaker 3: there and you'll get the same bad government, but without 149 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 3: all the drama, or a chance you'll get it without 150 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 3: all the drama. One, so they've circled the wagon's decided 151 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 3: totally to defend him. Two, the Republican Party is totally 152 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 3: inapt in Marion County, completely worthless, totally an apt They 153 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 3: aren't fighters. Heck, they got rid of Michael Paul Hart 154 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 3: as the city council minority leader because he was too 155 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 3: mean to hogs That. And we were coming on here 156 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 3: every day ripping on that guy, like why won't he 157 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 3: do something again hogs That, And the leadership of the 158 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 3: Republican Party was like, oh, you're gonna need to slow 159 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 3: down there, body. So there's no fight in the Republicans. 160 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 3: There's nobody's gonna put the screws to the city, the 161 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 3: city government. And the third thing is most people have 162 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 3: just left. I mean, there's a few hangers on like 163 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 3: Hammer who are lifers. For some reason, you're still living here. 164 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 3: I don't understand for any reason why you've chosen to 165 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 3: do that, but most people just they said, I'll just 166 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 3: go live in Greenfield. It'll just be much easier for me. 167 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: And it would. 168 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 2: I think. 169 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 4: I think Washington may be open maybe part of it. 170 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 2: What a smidge, I don't know. 171 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to investigate that on the way home today, 172 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 4: we'll see. 173 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, what are we doing next? What's going on? 174 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 4: Oh, we got to talk about the jobs report, and 175 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 4: also the concerns about election integrity. There's a big article 176 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 4: in the Indiana Capitol Chronicles. 177 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk about Bigga. 178 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 4: Morales, the Secretary of State is up to He had 179 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 4: that public hearing on Wednesday. 180 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's actually some interesting things that they're proposing to 181 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 3: change our election system in the state of Indiana. 182 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: To increase some voter turnout well, right, but also save money. 183 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 3: And I'm actually not opposed to what they're talking about. 184 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: So let's talk about it when we come back. 185 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 2: It's Kendilly Casey. It's ninety three w IBC, all right. 186 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 3: So they're making they're they're they're proposing some pretty big 187 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 3: changes to elections in the state of Indiana. And I 188 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 3: actually I don't have a problem with these. Okay, let's 189 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 3: talk about them. 190 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 4: Sho okay, yeah, these are all based on the public 191 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 4: hearings that are being Wait. 192 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 3: Wait, wait, wait wait, you got to get the theme 193 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 3: song cued up here. I can't believe we keV missed that. 194 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 5: You're talking about the Secretary of standing in his zest 195 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 5: to play Zeppelin. That's right, keV totally went into business 196 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 5: for himself. Kevin, are you ready? Okay, here we go. 197 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: Dirty Day, Go. 198 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 4: Dirty Day, Go, oh dirty d. 199 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 1: Dirty Day. 200 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 3: The stylings of Jerry Lopez INDI Spanglish on Twitter with 201 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 3: Kevin putting the beat down, and that is the theme 202 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 3: song for the Secretary of State, Diego Morales, because he 203 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 3: is a dirty, dirty, rotten individual who should not be 204 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 3: dog catcher, much less in charge of everything from elections 205 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 3: to businesses. But as mandated by the Indiana General Assembly, 206 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 3: he has to have these meetings across the state on 207 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 3: proposed certain proposed changes to the electoral system and then 208 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 3: report back to the General Assembly on the information that 209 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 3: he acquired and see what see what they want to 210 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,479 Speaker 3: do with that information. And a couple of these proposals 211 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 3: are actually I think pretty valid. One is essentially getting 212 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 3: rid of what we call off your elections. So in 213 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 3: the state of Indiana, a lot of your municipal elections mayors, town, 214 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 3: city councils, clerk treasurer. They are on odd year elections. 215 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 3: So your your presidential elections are the and the congress 216 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 3: or the even ones. So like it's you know, twenty 217 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 3: six will be the congressional midterms, twenty eight will be 218 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 3: the president, twenty five to twenty seven are the Indianapolis 219 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 3: mayor race will be in twenty twenty seven, and what 220 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 3: the state has said, and I think there's some merit 221 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 3: to this. 222 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:36,599 Speaker 1: We have to spend all of this money. 223 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 3: To administer these municipal elections, why wouldn't we just combine them. 224 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 3: If we can get everybody on the same track, we 225 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 3: can combine them and make them a part of elections 226 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 3: we're already administering, and it will save the taxpayers a 227 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 3: lot of money. 228 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is all under the study from House En' 229 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 4: rolled Acts sixteen thirty three. So Indiana ranks in the 230 00:11:55,720 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 4: bottom eight of states for voter turnout was both in 231 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 4: twenty two and twenty four, so Is this an effort 232 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 4: to save money or is this an effort to get 233 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 4: people to come to the polls? 234 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 3: Well, it's both. The municipal turnout election is under twenty percent. 235 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 3: I'm not a person who cares about the voter turnout thing. 236 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 3: Like It's like, I don't think we should be trying 237 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 3: or begging people to vote. Here's elections, especially people who 238 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 3: don't do their research exactly, Like if I got to 239 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 3: beg you to vote, I really don't want you voting, 240 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 3: Like if I got to plead with you to come 241 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 3: to the polls. Now, there's certain things we do see 242 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 3: redistricting and this ridiculous redistricting thing that alienate people from 243 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 3: being a part of the process. The politicians do this 244 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 3: on their own. But I don't want to have to, 245 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 3: you know, bow and curtsy and get on bended knee 246 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 3: and plead you to be a part of the electoral process. 247 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:47,839 Speaker 1: If you don't want to do it, fine, great. 248 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 3: I'm concerned about the cost, which is in some of 249 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 3: these you know, cities and towns, like I don't know 250 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 3: what the total was Like when I ran, I knew 251 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 3: the exact number. I know it, like I knew the 252 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 3: I looked at the previous whatever two or three election 253 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 3: cycles on that thing, and I could count to the 254 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 3: number and. 255 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 2: How many people you needed to vote for you to win. 256 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I knew it. 257 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 3: And once we blew past that, I was like, okay, 258 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 3: this's over. Like three weeks out of my election, I 259 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 3: was like, okay, it's done. Just make sure that people 260 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 3: go go vote, right, it's over. 261 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: It's done with. You shouldn't be able to do that. 262 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 1: It shouldn't be that easy. 263 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 3: If that few people care enough to show up and vote, 264 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 3: then you got to stick them in with everybody else, 265 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 3: and you could potentially save tens of thousands of dollars 266 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 3: in these counties that have to administer these elections. 267 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: Well. 268 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 4: Voter turnout in municipal elections sits at twenty seven percent 269 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 4: and midterms is at forty two. Presidential elections were sitting 270 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 4: at sixty one percent, so this could increase participation and 271 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 4: cut costs. 272 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 3: I had this conversation the other day with someone who 273 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 3: is going to run for office next year, and I 274 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 3: pretty much tell everybody this that wants to meet, I. 275 00:13:58,080 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: Will tell you what I think. 276 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 3: You want to use any of it? Great, If you don't, 277 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna tell anything. I wouldn't tell anybody else 278 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 3: who asked me if I you know, if they want 279 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 3: to run for public office. And one of the things 280 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 3: that's fascinating to me is because this person is going 281 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 3: to be running against a long time incumbent member of 282 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 3: the General Assembly. And here's what I told them, and 283 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 3: anybody can use this. It's free advice. Also also free advice. 284 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 3: If I were running against somebody in the General Assembly 285 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 3: next year, my slogan would be I want less of 286 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 3: your stuff, And anybody can use that wants that wants 287 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 3: to I told this person. They said, what's fascinating to 288 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 3: me about elections is, especially local elections, is there's so 289 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 3: many people who don't vote but yet and their potential customers. Right, Like, 290 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 3: if you think of it as a business, these people 291 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 3: are all your potential customers. Yet the people run for 292 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 3: public office just work off the same lists and keep 293 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 3: going for the same group customer base. They fight amongst 294 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 3: the customer base. When I ran, I was like, anybody 295 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 3: who doesn't like the guy I'm running against, they're gonna 296 00:14:58,160 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 3: vote agast him anyway. You don't need me to convince 297 00:14:59,920 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 3: you anybody that's for him, because they got some sort 298 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 3: of vested reason, and that guy being there, they're gonna 299 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 3: vote for him. 300 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: You're not gonna break those people. Why waste your time? 301 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 3: Go for the people who normally don't show up to 302 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 3: vote because they're freebies. If you can get to them, 303 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 3: the other people are not getting to them, and you 304 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 3: bear that out right in the midterms, Indiana has a 305 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 3: turnout rate. 306 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: Of forty two percent. 307 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 3: That means there's fifty eight percent of the potential customer 308 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 3: base just sitting there begging practically for somebody to give 309 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 3: them a reason to get up their ass and go vote. 310 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: And yet we spend all this. 311 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 3: Time fighting amongst the people probably have made up their 312 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 3: mind already anyway. 313 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, but he's cramming your mayoral vote onto a presidential ballot. 314 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 4: Is that kind of like stinking your veggies into your 315 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 4: mac and cheese, like bearing it into something that you 316 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 4: do care about or people are engaged in. 317 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 3: Okay, let's use the city of Indianapolis for an example. 318 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 3: You're worried we're gonna get worse representation if it's on 319 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 3: the ballot with everything else, No, how. 320 00:15:58,240 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: Could it get any worse? 321 00:15:59,160 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. 322 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: The other thing they're. 323 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 3: Considering doing and many counties already do this though, is 324 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 3: going to the vote center right now, it's a county 325 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 3: by county thing. And there are counties left who still 326 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 3: have the traditional voting precinct, which is like in your town, 327 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 3: there's eight places to go vote on election. 328 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: Day, and that is exorbitant. It's expensive. 329 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 3: You're paying a staff of people hundreds if not thousands 330 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 3: of dollars on election day that maybe one hundred people 331 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 3: or two hundred people will show up to vote at. 332 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 3: And they're talking about which many counties, especially in Central Indiana, 333 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 3: are already doing this of going to the forced vote center, 334 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 3: which is, hey, if you're in Plainfield, there's this giant 335 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 3: place that you can go vote. 336 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: I'm using hendricks Kincause that's where I live, and. 337 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 3: There's one in Brownsburg, and there's one in Avon, and 338 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 3: anywhere you're at you can go vote. And whether you 339 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 3: wherever you live, your vote, to pull up your ballot, 340 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 3: to pull up boom, do it, see you out of here. 341 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: And it's another thing that I think in a modern era. 342 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 3: Especially with the low voter turnout that we consistently have 343 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 3: in Indiana, if we're going to let's save the money 344 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 3: and let's go to these vote centers and get them 345 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 3: right and perfect the vote center. 346 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 4: So some critics are saying that some small towns they 347 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 4: already have the option to shift their election timing, and 348 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 4: do you really need a statewide mandate to do that. 349 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 3: Well, if it comes to I got to pay for 350 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 3: it in some capacity as a taxpayer, then yeah, I'm 351 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 3: going to tell you what to do. 352 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: Now. 353 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 3: A lot of this stuff is administered at the local level, 354 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 3: but we also pay money as state taxpayers to administer 355 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 3: elections here in the state of Indiana. 356 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: I just right. 357 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 3: I mean, if you're there's zero reason if there's going 358 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 3: to be fifteen hundred people show up to vote, I'll 359 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 3: just again use where I live. We have the off 360 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 3: your elections for the town council races. It's like fifteen 361 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 3: hundred to two thousand people who are showing up to 362 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 3: vote in a town of thirty thousand people. 363 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 1: If you can't get. 364 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 3: Or even if it's three thousand, right, whatever, If you're 365 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 3: only getting ten of the populace to show up, you 366 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 3: can be inconvenienced a little bit, perhaps, but. 367 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: You're even but you're not. 368 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 3: There's the early voting, there's all that, all these opportunity 369 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 3: of the mail in voting, it's utterly ridiculous. 370 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 4: So you know he had that public hearing on September three. Yeah, 371 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 4: I was told that there were thirty two chairs available 372 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 4: for people to come in. 373 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: Somebody sent me, don't know if they all got filled. 374 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 3: Somebody sent me a photo of that event that he 375 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 3: just had, And it appears to me that there are 376 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 3: three people taking photos of him. 377 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: We've got it looked like three like different angles, sax. 378 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 3: Payer funded people. Yeah, taking photos. Now, I don't know 379 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 3: if that's exactly right, but. 380 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 2: Big pr machine. 381 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: He never stops campaigning. You got to hand it to. 382 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 2: Him, right, do you. 383 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 4: The next hearing is September nineteenth in Jeffersonville, and then Morales, 384 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 4: the Secretary of State will be making final recommendations, which 385 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 4: is due to lawmakers by November. 386 00:18:58,640 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: First. What are we doing next? 387 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 4: Well, do you want to talk about that big tech 388 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 4: meeting they had in the White House yesterday? 389 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 2: Zuckerberg was there saying some stuff. 390 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, people are mad because Gates because t is 391 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 3: right next to them. 392 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, people, and they should be mad. We'll tell you. Yeah, 393 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: let's do it. 394 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 2: It's Kennel and Casey, it's ninety three WIBC. 395 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 3: Okay, this this broad might have a point here, Casey, 396 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 3: what's I got the Fox News up on the screen. 397 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 3: I think that Carl finally got us off that horrible 398 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 3: Drew Barrymore show. 399 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: Later. I don't think she's on Fox Days. 400 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 3: And the what do they call the thing at the bottom, 401 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 3: the super yeah, super yeah, the thing that tells you 402 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 3: who's on or whatever. 403 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 5: Yeah. 404 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 3: They they're doing some bit on one of the Kardashians, 405 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 3: Courtney Kardashian. I can never keep any of them straight. 406 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:52,479 Speaker 3: But it said Courtney Kardashian, and I guess her quote 407 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 3: was going to school is so dated? 408 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 2: Oh interesting? 409 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,160 Speaker 1: And I see that, and. 410 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 3: At first you'd be like, well, that's ridiculous, But then 411 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 3: there's part of you that says, okay, if we just 412 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 3: pause and get past the idea of, oh my gosh, 413 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 3: you wouldn't go to school. 414 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: In the hyper. 415 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 3: Technological world in which we're entering, and which means we 416 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 3: will be more and more into a specialized world going forward, 417 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,959 Speaker 3: in which you're going to need to find jobs that 418 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 3: can beat AI right, which will be fewer and fewer 419 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 3: by the day. Every day there's one or more fewer 420 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 3: jobs out there because of AI. 421 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: So is she wrong in. 422 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 3: Saying that you would be far better off from the 423 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 3: time you're a young person to be entered into field 424 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 3: or fields plural, to get an understanding of things and 425 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 3: work around and with things that are almost AI proof 426 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 3: or that have a better chance ten years from now 427 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 3: when you will enter the Workforceah of defeating art of 428 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 3: still having a career despite artificial intelligence. 429 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 4: That means you have to be specialized from a very 430 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 4: young age. It's almost like the one sport athlete in school. 431 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,360 Speaker 4: In high school, you focus on that one sport consistently, 432 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 4: doesn't that kind of pigeon? 433 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 1: Well does it have to be though? 434 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 3: Does it have to be because, let's say when you're 435 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 3: ten years old, they say, because by the time you're ten, 436 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 3: like I get interest change and things changed, but you 437 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 3: start getting a pretty good idea of sort of what 438 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 3: sort of human interests you're going to have, right, I 439 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:42,959 Speaker 3: mean I get like, I get that people find new 440 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 3: things all the time. But in terms of like when 441 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 3: I was ten years old, I knew. 442 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 1: What I want to do. 443 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 4: You knew you wanted to be here on WIBC at 444 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 4: ten of course, really I knew. 445 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 1: I knew I wanted to do this, and I was 446 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: a very smart child. 447 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 4: Okay, you know what that's interesting you say that because 448 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 4: by the time I was twelve, well, I knew that 449 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 4: I wanted to be on the radio as well. When 450 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 4: I was thirteen, I had the choice I could either 451 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 4: get a tend speed bike ers high five stereo system, 452 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 4: and I of course chose the stereo system so that 453 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 4: I could listen to the radio. 454 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's would say. 455 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:17,479 Speaker 3: I think I think most people have some idea of 456 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 3: the interests that they're going to have. 457 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: As at you know. 458 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 3: The ten to twelve year old age range and things 459 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:30,719 Speaker 3: that they would have some level of passion four. And 460 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 3: I was by the when I was ten, I loved radio, 461 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 3: was obsessed with radio and broadcasting and writing, and it 462 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 3: was pretty much a thing for me that I was 463 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 3: going to be in one of those fields of a 464 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 3: life of poverty. Right like that. But would we be 465 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 3: better off at saying when you're ten years old and 466 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 3: instead of just going to a traditional public or private 467 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 3: school every day where they just every day you go, 468 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 3: you know, five fields, five places, five things, you know 469 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 3: that you have some and I'm just spitballing here off 470 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 3: the top of my head. 471 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: That's just fascinating to me that she said that, because 472 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 1: on the way, well on the. 473 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 3: Surface, it seems very radical, but given the world in 474 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 3: which we're living, and what does the world look like 475 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 3: ten years from now, would you be better off by 476 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 3: the time you're twenty having spent ten years on a 477 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 3: daily basis engrossed in things that you have an interest 478 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 3: in and learning how to do those things to the 479 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 3: best of your ability. 480 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 4: That might play into Governor Brawn's pushed for the micro 481 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:33,719 Speaker 4: schools better because many people, many parents look at school 482 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 4: as just daycare, a place to send their children when 483 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 4: they're going to. 484 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 3: Work well right because and so that then is the 485 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 3: spin off, which is where I was going, so thank 486 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 3: you for this, which is if you're not going to 487 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 3: engage in your kid's life on a daily basis outside 488 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,199 Speaker 3: you know, what did you learn today? Talking about what 489 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 3: they learned, helping them with their studies, which, let's face it, 490 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 3: many parents are not. 491 00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 1: Many parents just hand their. 492 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 3: Kids off, as you said, to the public education system 493 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 3: or private school or whatever. And if you're not going 494 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,199 Speaker 3: to engage, then why wouldn't you want them to be 495 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 3: somewhere hyper focus where they're learning in their interest and 496 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 3: it will make it will it will prepare them earlier 497 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 3: for a career path of their choosing. 498 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 2: Do you think that at that age people would be 499 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 2: able to tell. 500 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 4: If they're more stem focused or if they're more history 501 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 4: and literature focused. 502 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 3: I think you know so, Like for example, here's a 503 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 3: here's a great example, talked about how all the issues 504 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 3: I had with the refrigerator right, and my buddy Clay. 505 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 2: You knew that was out of right. 506 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 3: Like I was, like I had to call me Clay 507 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 3: out and Levin and please come save me. And you know, 508 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 3: he went, and you know it was very easy because 509 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,640 Speaker 3: he has that skill set. His son came with him, 510 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 3: His son and his kids go to a to a 511 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 3: private advanced kid learning a cat to me type of place. 512 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 3: He has elementary age kids. His son, I think is six. 513 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 3: Maybe his son came with him, and his son clearly 514 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 3: had an interest in how he was fixing the waterline 515 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 3: and stuff and because his dad does it right. 516 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 1: And I think a lot of that is we feed off. 517 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 3: The interests of our parents, and his dad was showing 518 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 3: him and he was helping his dad do this. Now 519 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 3: could he obviously do it if you sat down tomorrow 520 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,479 Speaker 3: and made him do it. No, but he has an 521 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 3: interest in that, He has an interest in those things. 522 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 3: With somebody like that who's already started formulating some sort 523 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 3: of life interest and a skill set that would be 524 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 3: hyper beneficial not only to him self financially, because there's 525 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 3: fewer people who work with their hands, and also, you know, 526 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 3: to to humanity as a collective. 527 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: Would that be a better approach for someone. 528 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 4: Like that, right, then, have someone sitting in a classroom 529 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 4: exactly just. 530 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: Do something upon her. I saw that. I thought that 531 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: was just incredibly interesting. 532 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 2: Rockefeller's rolling over in his grip. 533 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 3: That the kardash she's it's like, oh my gosh, with 534 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 3: the Kardashians, we reject it out of hand. But that 535 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 3: actually is very interesting to me. And she wasn't necessarily 536 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 3: saying that. She was just saying school is dated. And 537 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 3: I think maybe that might be more and more. 538 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 4: Parents and people speaking out that if you should not 539 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 4: be sending your child home with hours of homework. You 540 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 4: have eight hours a day. If you can't get the 541 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 4: lesson in and they're not grasping what they're supposed to, 542 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 4: then you're doing something wrong, like you don't need to 543 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,199 Speaker 4: be sending hours upon hours of homework home with them. 544 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 3: Well, and the other part of this is how much 545 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 3: of your education did you extrapolate it into the real world? 546 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 3: Like how much of what you learn actually benefited you 547 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 3: in your day to day existence as an adult. 548 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 4: You're talking about how you were always told you you're 549 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 4: not going to have a calculator in your back pocket. 550 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 1: You got to learn how to do this right. 551 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 3: Look, and I'm not saying there are many fine math 552 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,239 Speaker 3: teachers that are wonderful people. I'm not trying to them 553 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 3: in any shape, form or fashion. But I'm saying the. 554 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: The trig the you know, the biology stuff. 555 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 3: Like right' I don't see any place where I've used 556 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 3: this in my daily adult Do you. 557 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 2: Make some of that general knowledge? 558 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 4: Though? 559 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: For what, I know what a bird is? 560 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 4: Right? 561 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: Like I know what a frog is? 562 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 3: Did I need to know how to dissect a frog? Seriously? 563 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 3: Like freshman year in high school you had to dissect 564 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 3: the frog? What good did that do me? 565 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,199 Speaker 4: So you're saying that you need to identify those students younger. 566 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 4: If you want to have the aptitude for it, sure 567 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 4: focus on that. 568 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 3: Absolutely, there are people who it benefitted them greatly because 569 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 3: they want to be a doctor, they have an aptitude 570 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 3: for it, they're interested in that. 571 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 4: Well, my daughter would be an example of that where 572 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 4: something like that is right in her field and now 573 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 4: she's you know, writing in a scientific last. 574 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 3: So instead of making her do because I'm sure just 575 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 3: like me, even the we have different she had classes 576 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 3: that were just totally pointless for her. So instead of 577 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 3: wasting all that time and resource, wouldn't have been better 578 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 3: for your daughter to have five we'll call them internships 579 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 3: for a lack of a better thing, or or fields 580 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 3: of study were the five things she was interested in. 581 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 3: She got great at those. By the time she was 582 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 3: sixteen years old, she was uber advanced in that. Wouldn't 583 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,719 Speaker 3: that serve her better than just forcing have forced her 584 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 3: to go through all these classes that she will absolutely 585 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 3: never use. Yeah. 586 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 4: Possibly the only thing that I would say is, you know, 587 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 4: the STEM class has benefited her because that is what 588 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:37,360 Speaker 4: her career is now. However, she still had to learn 589 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 4: how to write a paper and do summaries because even 590 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 4: in the science field you have to be able to 591 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 4: Then that. 592 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 3: Could have been one of the things that she went 593 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 3: and did each day. Yeah, I think we are onto something. 594 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 3: I think we've just I think I think we have 595 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 3: just solved a lot of the world's problems. All Right, 596 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 3: we'll do the Gates and Trump stuff when we come back. 597 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 2: It's Kendall and Casey. It's ninety three WIBC. 598 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: Okay. 599 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 3: So Trump did an event yesterday and Suckerberg and Gates 600 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 3: were there and people are outraged by it. 601 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. You also had Tim Cook there, he's the Apple guy. 602 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 2: He is the Apple guy. 603 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 4: And you had all sorts of CEOs from Oracle and 604 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 4: Blue Origin and Pallenteer and just all the all the 605 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 4: tech people were there. Right, it was like a Silicon 606 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 4: Valley thing reunion in the Rose Garden area. 607 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 3: But the outrage from a lot of people, as they're saying, 608 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 3: and we saw this during the inauguration too, where these 609 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 3: guys were got the primo seats, is these guys hate you. 610 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 3: They did everything they could to not just defeat you, 611 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 3: but take you out, and. 612 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 2: Now you're opening the doors to them. 613 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the and and it's hard to look. I'm 614 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 3: not a hardcore Trump supporter. I voted for Trump because 615 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 3: it was the one other option that I have. Right, 616 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,479 Speaker 3: I've been Trump's I knew would be in definitely better 617 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 3: on the border, which he has been, and better on 618 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 3: foreign policy, which to some extent he has been on 619 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 3: that too. And that you know, obviously you've got two choices. 620 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 3: You got picked one of the two. I mean, you 621 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 3: don't have to, but you get what I'm saying. But 622 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 3: if you're a hardcore Trump person, you gotta be a 623 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 3: little taken aback by this. 624 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: Do you that this guy because he does this all 625 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: the time. He keeps. 626 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 3: Engaging or propping up or giving the VIP treatment to people. 627 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: That try to destroy him. 628 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 3: Well, and if you're a hardcore Trump person who worked 629 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 3: very hard to get Trump elected, did you gotta be 630 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 3: looking at that going eh? I don't know. 631 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, it does signal somewhat of a realignment with big 632 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 4: Tech despite their past clashes. 633 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 2: I have to note Elon Musk wasn't there. He declined 634 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 2: the imitations. 635 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 4: He said a representative, you'd be there in his place 636 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 4: after they're public falling out. But is this a situation 637 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 4: of if you can't beat them, join them, because Tech 638 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:00,040 Speaker 4: is always going. 639 00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 2: To be there. 640 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 3: Sure, but I think there's a difference between we got 641 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 3: to work together and I'm rolling out the red carpet 642 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 3: for these people, right, I think there's I think there's 643 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 3: a and I think those guys at the inauguration was 644 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 3: a you know, I think that was a massive slap 645 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 3: in the face. By the way, the inauguration, wasn't it 646 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 3: brought to you by Google? 647 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 4: Uh? Well here in Indiana that was here, Yes, it was, yes, Yeah, 648 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,959 Speaker 4: there was a huge banners. 649 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: Right, that's right at that thing we went to. I 650 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: bet we don't get invited to that. That's right to bet. 651 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 3: That was the and I told you when we went, 652 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 3: I said, we got to go to this because I bet, 653 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 3: I say, and do something to get us uninvited from 654 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 3: this going forward. And aren't you glad we went now 655 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 3: because we're never getting invited again? 656 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: I called that one. 657 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 658 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 4: But at the big Bronze ball there was a stage 659 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 4: and right behind the podium on the stage there was 660 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 4: a big screen and the screen was as flashing different sponsors. 661 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 2: And Google was a big one. Also makes you wonder 662 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 2: about the connections to all the data centers. 663 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 3: Well, that was where I was going to go with this, 664 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 3: which is because remember at the time, I think I 665 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 3: brilliantly said, why is Google sponsoring the Indiana Republican Party, 666 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 3: and well as with all things, yeah, there was a 667 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 3: clear answer, which is they want the giveaways for the 668 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 3: data centers in Franklin Township. And now, of course the 669 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 3: guy Alec Willis who had on yesterday said the one 670 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 3: in Monrovia is a Google related thing? 671 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 2: Is Google? 672 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 3: Well, so point at all this is these people are 673 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 3: not our friends. They're not friends of the American people. 674 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 3: They're not friends of Trump. They exist to make money. 675 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 3: They exist to enhance their their power, their footprint, their 676 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 3: dominance over people's lives. And you're right, though, Casey, we 677 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 3: are totally slaves to technology at this point. 678 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 4: So many of the attendees they announced different projects were 679 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 4: investment that support Trump's goals on AI development, also manufacturing 680 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 4: and workforce automation. 681 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 3: One of those people, wait, but how many of those 682 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 3: investments are backed up by foreign based workers. 683 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: That's what really matters. 684 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 3: People that are going to come into this country and 685 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 3: they are going to take these jobs from people from 686 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 3: other countries. That's always the thing when we talk about 687 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 3: investment now in our country, when these foreign or tech 688 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 3: based companies talk about investment in Indiana, investment in America. Yeah, 689 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 3: but how many of those jobs are guaranteed to go 690 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 3: to American workers. 691 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 4: So Mark Zuckerberg was there and he said that his 692 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 4: company was going to invest at least six hundred billion 693 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 4: in the US over the next several years. And he 694 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 4: said it was to build out data centers and infrastructure 695 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 4: to power the next wave of innovation. When I heard 696 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 4: him say that, I kept thinking, you're not doing this 697 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 4: for me. You're doing this for you, of course, and 698 00:33:58,400 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 4: your company. 699 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 3: Now, look, there's some there's some thing to Hey, we 700 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 3: all are not all of us, but a lot of 701 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 3: us use Facebook. 702 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 1: However, if you told me that Facebook. 703 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 3: Could go away, but I'd have more affordable water and electricity, 704 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 3: I'd take giving up Facebook. And you're right, they're a 705 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 3: for profit company. It's not like they're running a soup 706 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:20,800 Speaker 3: kitchen over at Facebook. 707 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 2: So another thing that happened yesterday was the. 708 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 4: Health Secretary, Robert Kennedy Junior, testifying in front of the 709 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 4: Senate Finance Committee. 710 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 3: And we gotta to talk about daycare because there's something 711 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 3: interesting going on right at daycare in India. 712 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,760 Speaker 2: Yes, that as well. You're listening to Kendall and Casey. 713 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 2: It is ninety three WYBC