1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: So I read this article over the weekend, and it's 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: fascinating to me Casey about how the science community, for 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: lack of a better term, has now come completely full 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: circle and many of the world's leading scientists are now 5 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: saying what most of us have known our entire lives, 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: which is, Yeah, there's definitely a God, and that's the 7 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: only logical conclusion. 8 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: So it's the articles called does God Exist? Modern Science 9 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 2: shows he must bestseller argues so this is based on 10 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 2: a book by some scientists who got together who tried 11 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 2: to answer the question. 12 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: And one of these scientists, Fastening. Fasting read one of 13 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: these scientists early in life was an atheist who was 14 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: then convinced purely from a scientific perspective. 15 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 2: Right. 16 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: And one of the things that the science this article 17 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: lays out is that if you by the way, I 18 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: think it was what The Times had had an article 19 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: on this. The Daily Mail had an article about this 20 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: about these scientists in this book, they've got out he 21 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: is every theory they come back to, you come back to. Yeah, 22 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: but that couldn't have happened from nothing, Like every time 23 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: they pushed science to a new theory, and many of 24 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: them have been debunked like the stretching and shrinking theory 25 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: and all, you know, all of these scientific theories that 26 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: then get sort of etched in stone and then later 27 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: get disproved. The one thing science can't get around is something, 28 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: even the smallest of things, can't come from nothing. Something 29 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 1: had to start the thing. 30 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 2: They said, the question of God's existence is now forcibly 31 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 2: back on the table through science, not faith or theology. 32 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 2: It's almost like they keep trying to disprove it and 33 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: then they can't. They run into a wall. 34 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: Well look at it's a pretty I've always thought it 35 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: to be a pretty empty existence to think, go through 36 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: your life thinking all of this just accidentally happened, right, 37 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: Like just how could all of this so perfectly? And 38 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: you know what it was really reinforced to me. You know, 39 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 1: I was a believer. But when my daughter was the 40 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: process of my daughter being born, like from conception through birth, 41 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: and the one thing I was sitting there in the 42 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: hospital think about is how does the baby know to 43 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: come out? Like how do they know? 44 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 2: Right? 45 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: And in a weird way, I think God taps the 46 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: baby on the shoulder says, hey it you know it's time, right? 47 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? 48 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: And so you think about all of these things that 49 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: just in order for them to all work perfectly and 50 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: come together perfectly, and to have not just human life, 51 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: but all of these things around us, you think it 52 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: came from some just just boom. 53 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 2: Or bang or what. 54 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. That's a heck of a stretch. And 55 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: I have long thought that the people who are so 56 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: desperate to prove it's almost like we talked about to 57 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 1: begin in the show. These people so desperately want you 58 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: to believe Indianapolis is safe, that they'll take anything to 59 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: stretch and mental pretzel themselves to try to prove that point, 60 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,959 Speaker 1: including well, the governor made a stupid tweet, see everything's 61 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: really great here. It's sort of the same thing here 62 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: that these mental pretzels in this article does a great 63 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: job of laying it out that that like every time 64 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: we try to mental science tries to mental pretzel itself 65 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: to make some theory on how this could have happened. 66 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 1: Then sometimes it takes years, but years later it gets disproved. 67 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: The most what's the Okham's razor thing, The most logical 68 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: answer is usually the one that's right, and the most 69 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: logical answer is that there is something greater than ourselves 70 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: out there. Yeah. 71 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 2: So this book covers some major scientific theories and fields 72 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 2: like the Big Bang, relativity, quantum mechanics, and also DNA. 73 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 2: And you know, they argue that this is not a 74 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 2: religious book, but it's a scientific critique of materialism. 75 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:55,839 Speaker 1: And you see more and more. I mean, we've laid 76 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: these articles that I try to whenever whenever they come out, 77 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: because they just think they're fascinating about these science based 78 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: individuals who their whole thing is. They don't want it 79 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: to be They want there to be some logical I 80 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: can hold it in my hands, some scientific proof, right, 81 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: And they can't find it. And then they some of 82 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: these people are bold enough to finally just say, hey, 83 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: I throw in the towel. We can't do this. And 84 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: we've been at this for so long that the most logical, 85 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 1: from a purely scientific standpoint, the most logical answer is 86 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: that there is a higher being, There is a higher power, 87 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: and we are all blessed to have this in front 88 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: of us and to be able to be on this 89 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 1: earth and be a part of this magnificent creation.