WEBVTT - Daredevil: Born Again Season 2

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<v Speaker 1>The Frames per Second Podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to another episode of The Frames per Second Podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Today we have Nick Duce, even though he don't go

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<v Speaker 2>by that no more growing job, trying to keep pulling

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<v Speaker 2>me back though. That other voice you hear is Ken Gola.

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<v Speaker 3>And Mike c. Town Yo, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm your host, doc So you know, if you if

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<v Speaker 2>I'm hosting, were probably doing something with Common Books Nerd.

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<v Speaker 3>You know that type of bullshit, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, this time we're doing Daredevil Born Against season two.

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<v Speaker 2>I think all four of us were on the last

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<v Speaker 2>season we did season one. I think it was just

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<v Speaker 2>the four of us then, So we're back at it

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<v Speaker 2>a year later. And before we get into the review,

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<v Speaker 2>that too. He's going to actually start taking topics that

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<v Speaker 2>he wants to discuss that he can go into detail

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<v Speaker 2>about and maybe he'll open it up to y'all.

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<v Speaker 3>After the first one, we'll we'll have a discussion with him.

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<v Speaker 2>let's get into the review, very very first question, how'd

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<v Speaker 2>y'all feel about this?

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<v Speaker 3>Nick the thoughts? I liked it more than the first season,

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<v Speaker 3>but the way they ended it was.

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<v Speaker 2>I needed to have a counsel of people to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about how they ended it, So I'm glad I'm talking

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<v Speaker 2>about with y'all.

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<v Speaker 3>But overall, I would say it's it's getting better.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not it wasn't a bad season, but it's that

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't saying too much after the first season.

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<v Speaker 3>So I liked it. I think it was good Mike feeling, Bro,

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<v Speaker 3>you can have this man, you can have this ship.

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<v Speaker 4>Bro.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Daredevil's sleep again.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro.

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<v Speaker 3>But and it's not it's not even that it's a

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<v Speaker 3>bad show.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just so fucking boring. But I'm not I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>excited for season three unless they bring in some different writers.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I didn't bother to look. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>these are the same writers from the Netflix ship. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>assuming not but they need to call those guys, bro,

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<v Speaker 2>they need to beg them, like, please help us, because

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want I don't want to watch another fucking

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<v Speaker 2>season of Law and Order at all.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Originally was supposed to be like both is supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>be in the courtroom like, well, I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Glad they changed.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. Actually, the first season I don't remember liking either.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I hated it or anything, but I

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<v Speaker 2>don't remember liking the first season. But yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 2>I might have liked this one less bro, mm hmm,

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<v Speaker 2>how you feeling again?

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<v Speaker 4>I was like you for like the first half of it,

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<v Speaker 4>probably a little bit more, honestly, like more than half.

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<v Speaker 4>But I do like the way it closed, and I

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<v Speaker 4>do like what they may be setting up for for

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<v Speaker 4>that season. But it was a very very slow dialogue.

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<v Speaker 4>Shit was barely moving like season you know. At certain

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<v Speaker 4>points it felt like they really could have condenced it

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<v Speaker 4>to six, you know. But but yeah, they dragged out

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of stuff. But overall, I like the way

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<v Speaker 4>it ended. I think it gave me hope.

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<v Speaker 2>Shits so sleepy, I got might be yan and rub

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<v Speaker 2>his eyes right now on the review.

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<v Speaker 3>That's crazy just thinking about this shit I want now.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm kind of with Mike, Man, this is a nah

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<v Speaker 3>for me. I just.

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<v Speaker 2>I just I don't know, Bro, don't feel like the

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<v Speaker 2>Daredevil Netflix show. I know I should probably ease that

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<v Speaker 2>expectation off of it, but it's just like that shit's good,

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<v Speaker 2>that shit's so good, what the hell are we doing it?

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<v Speaker 2>On top of that, this was coming out at the

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<v Speaker 2>same time. I can't remember now a day the day

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<v Speaker 2>of or the day after of Invincible and the Boys.

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<v Speaker 2>So like, I'm waking up like and I'm watching this

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm watching i'm shows and I'm like, Jared Devil

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<v Speaker 2>was the one. I'm like, I will take my time

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<v Speaker 2>to get to it, maybe Friday or Saturday. Like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not in a rush to watch it at all. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean the season finale was cool. I could get

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<v Speaker 2>it cool. But I don't know, man, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if it's the editing to the editing seems shoppy, like

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<v Speaker 2>the pace and it's kind of off. It's just like

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<v Speaker 2>it just feels this. It feels like a Frankenstein of

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<v Speaker 2>what Dare Devil should be. Can I ask, though, did

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<v Speaker 2>it get better.

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<v Speaker 3>From last season?

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<v Speaker 2>Though? Like, would you say like, if you had to

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<v Speaker 2>just if you only just watch these two seasons, you'd

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<v Speaker 2>be like, which one is the better season?

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<v Speaker 3>Can you not say like it got better? Because that's

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<v Speaker 3>that's the basis of my artist.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not I'm not necessarily terribly against what y'all saying,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm feeling like I see where they're going, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're trying to ease back into that Netflix

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<v Speaker 2>world or that Netflix writing style, but they since they

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<v Speaker 2>fucked up so much, it's like, we can't go from

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<v Speaker 2>zero to sixty like we got it because they literally, Mike,

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<v Speaker 2>they bringing the whole band back together, don't.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't want that band. That band sucks, The band

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<v Speaker 3>is terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't want them. We just want Daredevil. Well I

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<v Speaker 2>can say we I don't. I don't give a fuck

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<v Speaker 2>about seeing Iron Fist. I like Jessica Jones, I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>really give a ship that Luke Cage.

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<v Speaker 3>Walked in as an absentee. Father. I'm tired that you work.

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<v Speaker 3>Mike wasn't was at work.

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<v Speaker 1>He was at work.

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<v Speaker 3>He was at work overseas. Bro they ask overseas to work,

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<v Speaker 3>And is the crazy part?

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<v Speaker 2>You rug and got replaced and got replaced come.

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<v Speaker 1>On, he los his job.

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<v Speaker 3>He basically did. He came. Yeah, it was brought ship.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's not like the stereotypical nigga with a second family.

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<v Speaker 2>He listen, I had to go overseas for a few months.

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<v Speaker 3>You are goddamn lying, You're after the Connecticut. You're lying,

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<v Speaker 3>asked mofucker.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, bro, I don't know who they got

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<v Speaker 2>right in this, but it's it's not it's not great.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not great, and Nick, I don't, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it was better. I think it's just

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<v Speaker 2>the same. Like last season was pretty much cool. It

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<v Speaker 2>was just like it wasn't It just wasn't on par

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<v Speaker 2>with the Netflix show. It wasn't bad. I know you

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<v Speaker 2>probably think it was bad, but it was like cool.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I was halfway anticipating this season because I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, maybe they're setting up something crazy, because the

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<v Speaker 2>way season one ended, it's like, all right, maybe something criss.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, all right, let's see what you can

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<v Speaker 3>do with this.

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<v Speaker 2>And that it was there, but it didn't feel like

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<v Speaker 2>the city actually was like heavily against it. It was

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<v Speaker 2>a weird dynamic. It was like we're making a political

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<v Speaker 2>statement and not at the same time, it's like, ye.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, cool, I don't I don't know what y'all

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<v Speaker 3>doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not I'm not a fan of this.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, did you watch the Netflix show? Nick?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I feel like what this is is them like

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, we do have to stop. I guess we

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<v Speaker 2>have to stop comparing it. But it's just hard though,

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<v Speaker 2>because the Netflix show was so good. But what I

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<v Speaker 2>what I would think is happening here is you're getting

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<v Speaker 2>used to it not being anywhere near as good as

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<v Speaker 2>a Netflix show. Yes, that's why we hated the first

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<v Speaker 2>season so much, or dislike the first season so much.

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<v Speaker 2>It's because it was nothing like the Netflix show. And

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<v Speaker 2>now we're just kind of settling into how fucking dry

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<v Speaker 2>and boring this shit is. So that's probably what's making

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<v Speaker 2>this season not feel that bad. But yeah, I'm kind

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<v Speaker 2>of with Jalen. It felt very similar to me, at

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<v Speaker 2>least to the to the first season. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Once I saw the first season, we talked about it.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like, Okay, they clearly are just they just

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<v Speaker 2>get you know, it looked the same on the outside,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's different on the inside. Yeah, And I think

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<v Speaker 2>again that's why they're bringing the band back together and

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<v Speaker 2>trying to just get all those viewership more so than

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<v Speaker 2>actual viewership by stories of viewership by visuals. Yeah, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I just think and they all and you saw this

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<v Speaker 2>season they try to piece in like certain things from

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<v Speaker 2>the Netflix series to like, hey, remember when we used

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<v Speaker 2>to be good that kind of stuff. So that's why

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just like, it's not gonna be like that, but

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<v Speaker 2>it did. It did just get better. So I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I got to give you kudos for that.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're all a time quinch a little bit. But

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<v Speaker 3>instead of going.

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<v Speaker 2>Beat by beat, no, instead of going beat by beat,

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<v Speaker 2>because I mean, if we don't beat by beat when

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<v Speaker 2>I do it over a hour and a half and

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<v Speaker 2>we don't really have that time anyway, people do a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more of like a more rounded review. There

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<v Speaker 2>are some episodes were jumping in out, but y'all just

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<v Speaker 2>feel free to we just like an open discussion about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Do y'all feel like.

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<v Speaker 2>This tone is that fits with the MCU is at

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<v Speaker 2>least trying to do like they're trying to find the

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<v Speaker 2>middle ground of having a darker tone but still keeping

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<v Speaker 2>the MCU feel. Is it possible to do that with

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<v Speaker 2>this show.

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<v Speaker 4>I think this would be the show to do it

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<v Speaker 4>with if they can find a way to pull it off.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it's New York, is violent, is dark, its grimy,

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<v Speaker 4>and what better place to do it. It's you know, Gotham, right,

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<v Speaker 4>But I think this would be the show if they

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<v Speaker 4>if they were trying to pull that off, if they

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<v Speaker 4>were going for that that sort of feel.

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<v Speaker 1>Hmm.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd rather see it with Punisher.

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<v Speaker 2>If they fuck up Punisher the way that they're doing

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<v Speaker 2>this ship, Like if if Punisher is just walking around

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<v Speaker 2>having conversations with people or helping feed the homeless or

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<v Speaker 2>some ship, I'm out.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm out they could have.

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<v Speaker 2>They could have I guess my my my thing, with

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<v Speaker 2>your with your with your question jalen Is. I do

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<v Speaker 2>think the tone could work, but it's too uneven with

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<v Speaker 2>this show. It's like they don't know which one they

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<v Speaker 2>want to commit to. It's like, oh, we want to

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<v Speaker 2>appeal to the people that like the old show, but

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<v Speaker 2>at the same time, we want to do our own thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like, all right, well, just fucking pick one then,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know you can't do what that Netflix show did.

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<v Speaker 2>You know you can't and at this point, you're fucking

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<v Speaker 2>wasting these actors time. Like I forget the guy's name, Cox,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever his name is. He's so good, he's so fucking

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<v Speaker 2>good as Daredevil, and when you put him in these

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<v Speaker 2>darker tones, it's perfect.

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<v Speaker 3>He's great at it. But then you throwing Karen old.

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<v Speaker 2>Raggedy ass here fucking running around, fucking drop kicking, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Ship gets this motherfucker the fuck out of here. Bro.

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<v Speaker 3>I would have rather see that little girl that was

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<v Speaker 3>the fucking tiger. I'd rather see her running the white

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<v Speaker 3>white tiger. I'm not I'm not taking care.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be Karen Well, I should say that, but you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying, she ain't no tough guy, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not buying Karen beating people up. That is her name, right, Karen,

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<v Speaker 2>the white woman named Karen beating people up? In the.

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<v Speaker 1>About that.

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<v Speaker 4>She did that a V A V T y guy

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<v Speaker 4>in the final episode, did she stuck up behind him

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<v Speaker 4>though she god, I don't even remember, and just hit him.

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<v Speaker 4>She didn't shoot him, No, No, she did shoot him.

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<v Speaker 4>I was surprised that, nah, I was surprised that Karen

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<v Speaker 4>was out here doing jiu jitsu or whatever it was.

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<v Speaker 1>But she was chopping on what. I'm like, she's fighting. No,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know she got it rough man, she herself.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh did she get beat up A few times? She did.

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<v Speaker 2>She got she got slacked around by the therapist that

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<v Speaker 2>she was funny.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, Mike, real talk, Mike, real talk. My sister's watch.

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<v Speaker 2>Have been watching any and everything since I gave them

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<v Speaker 2>my passwords to all my streaming service and stuff. They

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<v Speaker 2>told me they was like, Nick, we try to watch

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<v Speaker 2>their double, but he could not.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm talking about the Netflix one. We couldn't get. We

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't get past Karen.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, they said, Karen was so upsetting as

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<v Speaker 2>a character they could even do that.

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<v Speaker 3>So I can imagine them watch.

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<v Speaker 2>My dad has been my biggest gripe, Like it just

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<v Speaker 2>feels like and when she does that silent acting, when

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<v Speaker 2>she's not like, when she's not saying anything and they

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<v Speaker 2>just like have the camera on her, I'd be like, bro,

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<v Speaker 2>please stop. She's not that great. She's not that great

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<v Speaker 2>for y'all to.

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<v Speaker 3>Be doing that. And they don't develop her.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't develop her character in a way that was believable, right,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, And her and her acting didn't help it. No,

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<v Speaker 2>it just was like and honestly off the stream man

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<v Speaker 2>honestly Jalen in season one, if Bullseye was tasked to

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<v Speaker 2>kill Karen instead of Foggy. To me, this this because

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<v Speaker 2>the scene the episode where we get Foggy and Matt

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<v Speaker 2>back together, it's like.

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<v Speaker 3>Brit killed the wrong motherfucker.

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<v Speaker 2>You you still would have had their double caring about

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<v Speaker 2>or being upset with Bullseye and like, you kill the

0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:08.880
<v Speaker 2>love of my life and then you was, but you

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<v Speaker 2>still would have the relationship with him and Foggy and

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<v Speaker 2>being able to do their cases. Like, because what they're

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<v Speaker 2>trying to do with this black girl kid, it ain't working.

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<v Speaker 3>Black girl the lawyer, get out of here, Nick.

0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:26.480
<v Speaker 1>She was so bad she had to go get help

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<v Speaker 1>for her last trip.

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<v Speaker 4>Granted fisted by the jury, but she went back in there,

0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:35.560
<v Speaker 4>bro like caring in trouble.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I ever agree with you more, Nick,

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<v Speaker 2>because that was my exact feelings with this, is they

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<v Speaker 2>killed the wrong person. We don't need care. Matt has

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<v Speaker 2>so many women this for a blind motherfucker, he has

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<v Speaker 2>so many.

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<v Speaker 3>Ridiculous how many women in blind and is blind man?

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<v Speaker 2>So but he doesn't have that many best friends Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>hold on, hold on, Mike, Hey, Nick, I'm about to

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<v Speaker 2>start acting like that episode of Steve Harvey, the way

0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:13.280
<v Speaker 2>Mac that Nigga was blind and he had that girl

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<v Speaker 2>he was blind.

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<v Speaker 3>Show. I know exactly that she was bad too, Mike.

0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:23.680
<v Speaker 4>She was.

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<v Speaker 3>I've seen every episode of Steve Harvey. It was blind.

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<v Speaker 3>It was when he was his friend.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was the woman who played Bernie Max's wife

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<v Speaker 2>on the Bernie Max Show.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, he was trying to he was trying to get

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<v Speaker 3>with her, but she thought.

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<v Speaker 1>He was blind.

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<v Speaker 3>Steve was pretending to be blonde. I'm not doing the

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<v Speaker 3>way Mac getting him like this. It was insane.

0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:48.720
<v Speaker 4>And don't don't forget Doctor Glenn was his too, the

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<v Speaker 4>one that slept Caaren.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why she she's like this before.

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<v Speaker 3>He better be.

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<v Speaker 2>Blonde because, heybody, she ain't had no d like like

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<v Speaker 2>that talk about Look, Matt walked around every single one

0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:20.960
<v Speaker 2>of these went back. I'm sorry, I can't control my

0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:23.960
<v Speaker 2>never mind me stop, let me stop. But no, you're right.

0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:26.200
<v Speaker 2>They should have kept foggy. I know it's I know

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<v Speaker 2>it's from the comics, but I don't care y'all all

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<v Speaker 2>the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly. They should have killed Karen exactly, because.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, like I I'm giving this show a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>grace and I'm grading on a curve, but for what

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<v Speaker 2>they did, it was just kind of like, Okay, I

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<v Speaker 2>see where you're going to your question, Jalen. I do

0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:50.040
<v Speaker 2>agree with Mike though, like they are half stepping all

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<v Speaker 2>of this, and I'm nervous about the punishing thing that's

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<v Speaker 2>dropping tomorrow as we're recording this, because it's like, granted,

0:16:57.120 --> 0:17:00.240
<v Speaker 2>heat John Burnhal wrote it and the guy that he

0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:03.680
<v Speaker 2>wrote it with is directing it. So if it got

0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:05.800
<v Speaker 2>passed through and said like we'll let you do your

0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:06.960
<v Speaker 2>punisher thing, then.

0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:07.600
<v Speaker 3>Maybe it'll be great.

0:17:08.480 --> 0:17:11.959
<v Speaker 2>But what they did with Dear Devil was like, bro,

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<v Speaker 2>just let it be dark. I don't understand why, Like

0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:15.880
<v Speaker 2>you have Disney Plus, you put the parental of Riseries

0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:20.200
<v Speaker 2>on it, like it's it's its own show, it has

0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:22.280
<v Speaker 2>its own audience. You clearly know that the audience from

0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:24.680
<v Speaker 2>the Netflix loved the gore, love the violence, love the

0:17:25.080 --> 0:17:27.560
<v Speaker 2>cursing and all that. Like trying to make this ship

0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:30.960
<v Speaker 2>like every episode start off with the bad Report Daytime Ship.

0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:33.439
<v Speaker 2>It's like I don't I don't give it, Like if

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<v Speaker 2>we're just gonna talk about the characters we don't like.

0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:37.000
<v Speaker 2>I ain't give a fuck about Can, I ain't give

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<v Speaker 2>a fuck about Babie. And I did not like how

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<v Speaker 2>they did the Black Lawyer girl because it was just

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<v Speaker 2>like she was just in a nothing part. They let

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<v Speaker 2>the they let Cherry just have a heart attack like

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<v Speaker 2>he was red Fox.

0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:50.040
<v Speaker 3>Took him out the show.

0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:52.920
<v Speaker 2>I was just like, and and so that's where I

0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:55.240
<v Speaker 2>was gonna start to like the season opened up with

0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:58.440
<v Speaker 2>the Northern Star and the ship like sinking and dar

0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:00.760
<v Speaker 2>Devil being on the ship, but also like some of

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<v Speaker 2>the political background and.

0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:07.360
<v Speaker 3>And who was the Jack du Quays how you say

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<v Speaker 3>his name?

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<v Speaker 2>He was on trial?

0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:10.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:12.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was on trial during this and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>as a vigilante did the ATF and all the political stuff?

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<v Speaker 2>Was it too much for like, just too much of

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<v Speaker 2>that going on and took away from the show. Or

0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:25.080
<v Speaker 2>did y'all feel like it worked? Like especially when it

0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:26.880
<v Speaker 2>first opened up? How did y'all feel in the very

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<v Speaker 2>first episode?

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<v Speaker 4>I think I struggled with the politics. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 4>I struggled with the politics part of this this show.

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<v Speaker 4>It wasn't really interesting enough. And I don't and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>with the whole fake ass ice running around the city,

0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:51.239
<v Speaker 4>you know, the whole sort of martial law that they

0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:53.679
<v Speaker 4>were supposed to be under. It didn't really feel like

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<v Speaker 4>that for the most part. And you know, he had

0:18:58.440 --> 0:19:02.280
<v Speaker 4>political enemies, but they were sort of powerless. You have

0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:07.399
<v Speaker 4>mister Charles come in and he immediately put Fisk. Uh no, no, no,

0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:09.720
<v Speaker 4>you have the ag come in. We tried to put

0:19:09.720 --> 0:19:13.000
<v Speaker 4>Fisk in his place, and he was neutered by mister Charles,

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<v Speaker 4>and mister Charles ultimately ended up being nobody by the

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<v Speaker 4>end of the show as well. So the political part

0:19:18.160 --> 0:19:20.720
<v Speaker 4>of the show, and that was that was like Fiscus

0:19:20.840 --> 0:19:24.360
<v Speaker 4>fist hour in this in this show, outside of the

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<v Speaker 4>moments when he did fight.

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<v Speaker 1>But it just it didn't work for me. That was

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<v Speaker 1>the issue that I had and why it was slow

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<v Speaker 1>for me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I kind of I kind of agree with that.

0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:35.919
<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>As as much as I hate the current political landscape

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<v Speaker 2>we're in right now in the US, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>that I need every single show to be like, hey,

0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:49.760
<v Speaker 2>this is this is what's happening in the US.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, Like I feel like if they did it well,

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<v Speaker 2>like I would be I would be into it, but yeah,

0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:02.200
<v Speaker 2>the fake ass ice. I couldn't get with it. It

0:20:02.320 --> 0:20:07.840
<v Speaker 2>just it just felt very cheap. Like I'm assuming Punisher

0:20:07.880 --> 0:20:11.280
<v Speaker 2>is probably gonna do something very similar, but I'm thinking

0:20:11.320 --> 0:20:15.200
<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be better. But this, with this the anti vigilante,

0:20:15.240 --> 0:20:19.720
<v Speaker 2>I was just I was not into it. It felt corny.

0:20:20.720 --> 0:20:21.640
<v Speaker 3>I yeah, I.

0:20:22.920 --> 0:20:24.840
<v Speaker 2>It's interesting you said that, like, because it's like every

0:20:24.840 --> 0:20:28.080
<v Speaker 2>superhero show is now doing like yep, talking about things

0:20:28.080 --> 0:20:31.959
<v Speaker 2>from a political sense. And granted we're in the Marvel

0:20:32.000 --> 0:20:35.720
<v Speaker 2>univers it's it's in real cities, so like you can imagine, like,

0:20:36.960 --> 0:20:38.840
<v Speaker 2>I'll be interesting to see what New Yorkers feel about this.

0:20:38.920 --> 0:20:43.439
<v Speaker 2>But overall, with this season made me realize not just

0:20:43.480 --> 0:20:45.600
<v Speaker 2>the ATF but like the stuff you were talking about, Kim.

0:20:46.080 --> 0:20:49.119
<v Speaker 2>It's like, I'm actually more nervous about season three because

0:20:49.160 --> 0:20:50.840
<v Speaker 2>Fisk is gonna be essentially.

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<v Speaker 3>Not there anymore.

0:20:52.560 --> 0:20:54.480
<v Speaker 2>And I think we dealt with this a little bit

0:20:54.560 --> 0:20:56.720
<v Speaker 2>in the Netflix series when they took Fisk away for

0:20:57.359 --> 0:20:58.480
<v Speaker 2>a large chunk of the season.

0:20:58.480 --> 0:20:59.600
<v Speaker 3>I think it was a season.

0:21:00.280 --> 0:21:05.040
<v Speaker 2>Two Maybe I'm interested seeing how they move and operate

0:21:05.440 --> 0:21:08.480
<v Speaker 2>when you don't have two really great actors trying to

0:21:08.520 --> 0:21:10.960
<v Speaker 2>pull their best out of whatever's the written material is,

0:21:10.960 --> 0:21:12.679
<v Speaker 2>and like, we're trying to focus on a new villain.

0:21:12.960 --> 0:21:15.040
<v Speaker 2>Now Matt's in jail, so are we gonna do more

0:21:15.160 --> 0:21:18.359
<v Speaker 2>Law and Order where he represents himself? And you know,

0:21:18.480 --> 0:21:23.639
<v Speaker 2>that's probably half the season, and then obviously we won't

0:21:23.680 --> 0:21:27.280
<v Speaker 2>have cameos from Punisher or even maybe even Karen will

0:21:27.320 --> 0:21:31.160
<v Speaker 2>get something else. I'm just I'm more nervous as this ended,

0:21:31.200 --> 0:21:36.040
<v Speaker 2>because Wilson Fisk is now like pretty much if you

0:21:36.080 --> 0:21:38.560
<v Speaker 2>take him out of this series or this or any seasons,

0:21:38.600 --> 0:21:41.840
<v Speaker 2>it's like, what do we have left? And you already

0:21:41.880 --> 0:21:44.800
<v Speaker 2>made a whole political season, so you can't go back

0:21:44.800 --> 0:21:47.399
<v Speaker 2>to that will It's like what else are we doing?

0:21:48.240 --> 0:21:51.199
<v Speaker 3>Because what they did do was decent, at least for me.

0:21:52.240 --> 0:21:54.160
<v Speaker 2>But I also see that the void is gonna happen

0:21:54.200 --> 0:21:58.640
<v Speaker 2>now that Fisk is ostracized and basically banished from New York,

0:21:59.000 --> 0:21:59.880
<v Speaker 2>So then who were who?

0:22:00.040 --> 0:22:01.719
<v Speaker 3>Where does the Devil go moving forward?

0:22:01.800 --> 0:22:04.280
<v Speaker 2>Is more of my question based on how this season went,

0:22:06.200 --> 0:22:08.400
<v Speaker 2>and I don't try based on everything we talk about,

0:22:08.640 --> 0:22:09.919
<v Speaker 2>I don't trust them, and I don't think we all

0:22:09.920 --> 0:22:10.560
<v Speaker 2>trust him either.

0:22:13.240 --> 0:22:14.600
<v Speaker 3>I don't think my issue.

0:22:15.920 --> 0:22:18.560
<v Speaker 2>I guess because I really don't care about season three

0:22:18.560 --> 0:22:20.439
<v Speaker 2>at this point. It is what it is, Like I'll

0:22:20.480 --> 0:22:26.040
<v Speaker 2>probably wait till it's done to watch it, but I

0:22:26.400 --> 0:22:28.560
<v Speaker 2>don't think that's that big of an issue for me

0:22:28.640 --> 0:22:32.800
<v Speaker 2>without Fisk, Like as much as I love I can't

0:22:32.880 --> 0:22:36.400
<v Speaker 2>Vincent's yeah, his acting, as much as I love him

0:22:36.400 --> 0:22:39.960
<v Speaker 2>as Wilson Fisk, I can still see Daredevil without him

0:22:39.960 --> 0:22:42.160
<v Speaker 2>being the main folk. Like there's multiple stories you can say,

0:22:42.200 --> 0:22:45.560
<v Speaker 2>especially with his identity being known now, Like there's multiple

0:22:45.600 --> 0:22:47.400
<v Speaker 2>stories you could you could work from there. You can

0:22:47.440 --> 0:22:50.080
<v Speaker 2>make things interesting. I don't trust them to make it interesting,

0:22:50.440 --> 0:22:55.639
<v Speaker 2>but you definitely can make interesting storage from this point,

0:22:55.920 --> 0:23:00.360
<v Speaker 2>this this task force thing, Like I'm happy with Mike.

0:23:00.840 --> 0:23:04.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't necessarily need my political statements and shows because

0:23:04.720 --> 0:23:06.439
<v Speaker 2>I know what's going on outside. But it's a lot

0:23:06.480 --> 0:23:09.159
<v Speaker 2>of dumb motherfuckers who do need to see this. So

0:23:09.160 --> 0:23:10.960
<v Speaker 2>that's why it's like I don't really need to see it,

0:23:11.000 --> 0:23:12.320
<v Speaker 2>but I think it's a lot of dumb motherfuckers that

0:23:12.359 --> 0:23:13.879
<v Speaker 2>do need to see it, So I don't mind it

0:23:13.920 --> 0:23:16.360
<v Speaker 2>as much. You just have to execute it and make

0:23:16.400 --> 0:23:19.440
<v Speaker 2>it done, like make it be good. Right, This is

0:23:20.080 --> 0:23:22.920
<v Speaker 2>like Mike, it's been choppy, like there's times where I'm like,

0:23:22.960 --> 0:23:26.120
<v Speaker 2>all right, what are ya gonna do next with that?

0:23:26.119 --> 0:23:28.119
<v Speaker 2>That's an interesting thready'all are pulling on it, and they

0:23:28.119 --> 0:23:30.399
<v Speaker 2>don't really go far enough, or the editing or the

0:23:30.400 --> 0:23:32.800
<v Speaker 2>pacing just goes somewhere totally different, and I'm like, all right,

0:23:32.880 --> 0:23:39.000
<v Speaker 2>then I can't get invested in this. So I'm not

0:23:39.119 --> 0:23:41.040
<v Speaker 2>too I'm kind of torn on even the question I

0:23:41.119 --> 0:23:44.439
<v Speaker 2>asked y'all is how does it work? There was an

0:23:44.480 --> 0:23:47.480
<v Speaker 2>opportunity here, It was an opportunity here, and they kind

0:23:47.480 --> 0:23:52.359
<v Speaker 2>of wasted it. So yeah, I mean, I think, you know,

0:23:52.680 --> 0:23:55.920
<v Speaker 2>for if we were actually complaining about political stuff being

0:23:56.000 --> 0:23:57.880
<v Speaker 2>in a Marvel show, we kind of sound like hypocrites

0:23:57.880 --> 0:24:02.240
<v Speaker 2>because we all know that that was in them. But

0:24:03.119 --> 0:24:05.560
<v Speaker 2>like you said, Jalen is just like just do it well,

0:24:06.040 --> 0:24:07.679
<v Speaker 2>like do it well, like the way they have the

0:24:07.720 --> 0:24:10.680
<v Speaker 2>main cop, Like yeah, there are a lot of cops

0:24:10.680 --> 0:24:12.600
<v Speaker 2>that are like that. But the way that they portrayed

0:24:12.640 --> 0:24:15.720
<v Speaker 2>him on this show was just so hokey, and he's

0:24:15.800 --> 0:24:19.119
<v Speaker 2>just like he's just so evil, he's so dark, and

0:24:19.160 --> 0:24:22.080
<v Speaker 2>he walks into the diner and he slaps.

0:24:21.680 --> 0:24:24.280
<v Speaker 3>Women and it's like bro, all right, man, Like, yeah.

0:24:24.119 --> 0:24:27.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure, this happens, but y'all are making this so

0:24:28.200 --> 0:24:31.560
<v Speaker 2>over the top that like it's just not really that

0:24:31.720 --> 0:24:35.040
<v Speaker 2>believable and it's not very compelling because it's he's such

0:24:35.119 --> 0:24:38.720
<v Speaker 2>a corny comic book villain at this point, Mike, he

0:24:40.200 --> 0:24:43.760
<v Speaker 2>that specific actor is typecast because he plays the same

0:24:43.880 --> 0:24:46.359
<v Speaker 2>character in the show called Mayor of Kingstown. I think

0:24:46.359 --> 0:24:49.520
<v Speaker 2>you actually right, yeah, and he plays literally the exact

0:24:49.520 --> 0:24:52.280
<v Speaker 2>same role. So like they just basically pop them into

0:24:52.280 --> 0:24:54.240
<v Speaker 2>this to say, do what you did in Kingstown because

0:24:54.240 --> 0:24:58.080
<v Speaker 2>that's probably gonna bring more authenticity to everything. But uh,

0:24:58.640 --> 0:25:01.320
<v Speaker 2>I yeah, that's what I'm saying, Like I don't at

0:25:01.320 --> 0:25:03.359
<v Speaker 2>this point in time, I'm kind of used to seeing

0:25:03.400 --> 0:25:07.119
<v Speaker 2>this kind of political storylines and fictional shows.

0:25:07.480 --> 0:25:09.159
<v Speaker 3>So it's just like, all right, it is what it

0:25:09.240 --> 0:25:13.040
<v Speaker 3>is again. Where we end off this season is whereas

0:25:13.119 --> 0:25:14.480
<v Speaker 3>like we did all that for this.

0:25:16.480 --> 0:25:19.080
<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm saying, Like, Jayla, that's what I'm like, brouh,

0:25:19.800 --> 0:25:21.480
<v Speaker 2>he fucked up everything.

0:25:22.480 --> 0:25:27.280
<v Speaker 3>We'll get to it. We'll get to it, all right.

0:25:27.840 --> 0:25:29.280
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, that's episode one.

0:25:29.400 --> 0:25:31.879
<v Speaker 2>But y'all said, y'all pulled in that all from episode

0:25:31.920 --> 0:25:33.399
<v Speaker 2>one where y'all like did get y'all like, all right,

0:25:33.440 --> 0:25:37.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm invested in the show. I'm excited that I came

0:25:38.000 --> 0:25:39.080
<v Speaker 2>back on episode four.

0:25:39.359 --> 0:25:41.600
<v Speaker 3>I was like, y'all not about to waste my fucking time.

0:25:42.080 --> 0:25:45.119
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I remember Dared Devil moves kind of slow.

0:25:45.200 --> 0:25:50.080
<v Speaker 4>They don't have a lot of action, so yeah, I

0:25:50.160 --> 0:25:51.359
<v Speaker 4>was like, all right, I'll wait.

0:25:53.000 --> 0:25:53.480
<v Speaker 3>Well.

0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:56.160
<v Speaker 2>Episode one ended with Cherry like like Nick said, having

0:25:56.200 --> 0:26:00.560
<v Speaker 2>a heart attack and uh buys I basically killing two

0:26:00.600 --> 0:26:04.320
<v Speaker 2>people that ended up seeing the Devil was identity in

0:26:04.359 --> 0:26:07.600
<v Speaker 2>the first episode. That that part there was like, I

0:26:07.640 --> 0:26:09.520
<v Speaker 2>was like, are y'all about to have his identity revealed

0:26:09.560 --> 0:26:11.520
<v Speaker 2>in the first episode? And then when they got killed, like,

0:26:11.600 --> 0:26:17.199
<v Speaker 2>oh man, yeah whatever, Like but yeah, episode two, we

0:26:17.359 --> 0:26:21.760
<v Speaker 2>transitioned to where Fist begins to access the people of

0:26:21.800 --> 0:26:25.440
<v Speaker 2>New York to find Murdoch, but they also have the

0:26:25.520 --> 0:26:27.400
<v Speaker 2>Vigilantes looking for Daredevil.

0:26:27.400 --> 0:26:28.720
<v Speaker 3>How did you think that was gonna work out? With

0:26:28.760 --> 0:26:30.040
<v Speaker 3>Fisk asking for that Ken.

0:26:32.000 --> 0:26:36.680
<v Speaker 4>I feel like it was an idea that could have

0:26:36.760 --> 0:26:41.920
<v Speaker 4>been smart, but also feel like we can't see much

0:26:42.040 --> 0:26:46.280
<v Speaker 4>more of it after episode two. You know, he was

0:26:46.320 --> 0:26:48.960
<v Speaker 4>in hiding and people were looking for him, but that

0:26:49.160 --> 0:26:51.000
<v Speaker 4>was it. It felt like the storyline from that point

0:26:51.080 --> 0:26:54.119
<v Speaker 4>on died. It never really felt like Mack was I

0:26:54.119 --> 0:26:55.679
<v Speaker 4>think one of you guys even said it earlier that

0:26:55.680 --> 0:26:59.600
<v Speaker 4>he was on the run like that. So Matt, Matt

0:27:00.000 --> 0:27:03.680
<v Speaker 4>spent a lot of time in the costume and in

0:27:03.720 --> 0:27:06.840
<v Speaker 4>this in this season, so we didn't really see him

0:27:06.840 --> 0:27:09.399
<v Speaker 4>out of the costume to the last two episodes, you know.

0:27:09.560 --> 0:27:13.640
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, so it really didn't go any work for me.

0:27:16.200 --> 0:27:21.959
<v Speaker 2>When thoughts Nick, I was, I was questioning a lot

0:27:22.000 --> 0:27:25.800
<v Speaker 2>of decisions in this season as far as like how

0:27:25.840 --> 0:27:29.280
<v Speaker 2>he was trying to be strategic. This seemed like, oh, yeah,

0:27:29.280 --> 0:27:33.400
<v Speaker 2>this is smart, We'll look for the same guy twice over.

0:27:34.560 --> 0:27:37.440
<v Speaker 2>But I can't said it was just it didn't seem

0:27:37.440 --> 0:27:39.640
<v Speaker 2>like there was a big outcry to find at Murdoch

0:27:39.880 --> 0:27:42.520
<v Speaker 2>as much as it was for Daredevil. Of course, so

0:27:42.760 --> 0:27:45.280
<v Speaker 2>like and who's looking for a blind white man in

0:27:45.280 --> 0:27:50.120
<v Speaker 2>New York? They can do a fuck. So I thought

0:27:50.119 --> 0:27:54.000
<v Speaker 2>it was just like, let's like how we teased the ending.

0:27:53.840 --> 0:27:54.680
<v Speaker 3>Of the first episode.

0:27:54.720 --> 0:27:56.520
<v Speaker 2>It was just kind of like this whole season was teasing,

0:27:56.600 --> 0:27:58.240
<v Speaker 2>like are we going to reveal his identity?

0:27:58.280 --> 0:27:58.560
<v Speaker 3>How are we?

0:27:58.640 --> 0:28:00.240
<v Speaker 2>How close are we going to reveal his ident It

0:28:00.240 --> 0:28:02.440
<v Speaker 2>was like by the time we got to it, it was like, oh, y'all,

0:28:02.520 --> 0:28:05.560
<v Speaker 2>was just y'all kick the can on that for about

0:28:06.040 --> 0:28:10.320
<v Speaker 2>six to eight weeks, and yeah, that's how I really

0:28:10.320 --> 0:28:12.480
<v Speaker 2>feel about it. Was just like it wasn't necessarily a

0:28:12.480 --> 0:28:15.920
<v Speaker 2>good enough storyline to really focus on it so much.

0:28:18.720 --> 0:28:21.120
<v Speaker 3>Mike, what what?

0:28:21.119 --> 0:28:21.480
<v Speaker 1>What is it?

0:28:21.600 --> 0:28:24.320
<v Speaker 3>What is the exact question? Sorry, Mike?

0:28:24.440 --> 0:28:28.240
<v Speaker 2>How did you feel about the idea of Fisk asking

0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:34.159
<v Speaker 2>for so Yeah to basically arrest their devil, but wanting

0:28:34.200 --> 0:28:37.440
<v Speaker 2>to rescue and find Matt Murdoch as a hero.

0:28:38.320 --> 0:28:42.320
<v Speaker 3>I didn't care. Yeah, I didn't care because.

0:28:43.760 --> 0:28:46.680
<v Speaker 2>I guess see, and I tried not to do this,

0:28:46.880 --> 0:28:50.480
<v Speaker 2>but it's hard not to do this. But with storylines

0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:53.880
<v Speaker 2>like this, it's very hard for me to be like, Okay,

0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:57.240
<v Speaker 2>Fisk is running New York City or New York wherever

0:28:57.240 --> 0:29:00.320
<v Speaker 2>the fuck. I guess it's New York City and he

0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:03.960
<v Speaker 2>has a vigilante task force. And the only motherfucker you

0:29:04.000 --> 0:29:07.320
<v Speaker 2>brought in was the motherfucker with the sword. You ain't

0:29:07.360 --> 0:29:11.360
<v Speaker 2>talking to Spider Man. You ain't going to find fucking

0:29:11.800 --> 0:29:14.240
<v Speaker 2>you know Luke k No, Luke Cage just I forgot

0:29:14.240 --> 0:29:17.200
<v Speaker 2>he's in jail. You're not talking to Uh, what's the

0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:19.600
<v Speaker 2>other what's the little white dude's name? They had the

0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:22.920
<v Speaker 2>iron fist? I guess I don't know where he's at either,

0:29:23.160 --> 0:29:27.640
<v Speaker 2>But there are plenty of other, like prominent, you know,

0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:32.680
<v Speaker 2>vigilantes in New York, and it's like, you think something

0:29:32.800 --> 0:29:37.000
<v Speaker 2>this big would affect everybody. So when I'm watching this,

0:29:37.200 --> 0:29:40.200
<v Speaker 2>I got the same feeling I got when fucking Palpatine

0:29:40.200 --> 0:29:44.240
<v Speaker 2>returned in the fucking sequel trilogy. It's like, Okay, how

0:29:44.280 --> 0:29:47.080
<v Speaker 2>come only raise out here fighting? Where the fuck is

0:29:47.080 --> 0:29:50.000
<v Speaker 2>everybody else? That's how I felt with this whole season.

0:29:50.120 --> 0:29:54.720
<v Speaker 2>So him being like, go get all the vigilantes, but

0:29:54.800 --> 0:29:56.640
<v Speaker 2>bring me back back Burdock, It's.

0:29:56.520 --> 0:30:01.560
<v Speaker 3>Like, all right, bro, like cool, Like what yeah? It

0:30:01.680 --> 0:30:03.040
<v Speaker 3>just it just didn't interesting. Man.

0:30:03.760 --> 0:30:07.320
<v Speaker 2>They brought a nigga with a butter knife at their

0:30:07.360 --> 0:30:09.920
<v Speaker 2>top vigilante.

0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:12.200
<v Speaker 3>And it's like this dude wasn't even doing ship.

0:30:12.240 --> 0:30:13.920
<v Speaker 2>He had a fucking he had a big ass tooth

0:30:13.920 --> 0:30:16.920
<v Speaker 2>picnic and they really brought him in and put him

0:30:16.960 --> 0:30:21.360
<v Speaker 2>on trial. Really, and we're supposed to be compelled by this.

0:30:21.400 --> 0:30:23.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I hope he gets off. I don't

0:30:23.840 --> 0:30:27.160
<v Speaker 2>care about this dude. They trying to fuck about this

0:30:27.240 --> 0:30:29.160
<v Speaker 2>dude they try to make us feel bad from because.

0:30:29.000 --> 0:30:32.920
<v Speaker 3>He was in the cage and ship there he got

0:30:33.120 --> 0:30:35.760
<v Speaker 3>he ate a lot of coupling song. Bro, he alight

0:30:36.640 --> 0:30:37.440
<v Speaker 3>be fine.

0:30:38.080 --> 0:30:39.440
<v Speaker 1>And when he got out he left.

0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:43.080
<v Speaker 3>He shu did We didn't see him, Joe, he got

0:30:43.080 --> 0:30:44.560
<v Speaker 3>the f bout of there. Bro.

0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:48.200
<v Speaker 2>In that fight, see that motherfucker got hit one good

0:30:48.240 --> 0:30:50.440
<v Speaker 2>time and he said this life is not for me.

0:30:51.600 --> 0:30:52.480
<v Speaker 3>But he's like, I'm out.

0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:57.240
<v Speaker 4>So he told that use whatever however much unique and

0:30:57.680 --> 0:30:59.080
<v Speaker 4>you won't, but.

0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:04.800
<v Speaker 3>Don't call me. Here's my credit card. But I fight, Bro.

0:31:05.680 --> 0:31:10.040
<v Speaker 3>I don't like getting real talk.

0:31:10.880 --> 0:31:12.800
<v Speaker 2>But I feel like again, it's like I give up

0:31:12.840 --> 0:31:14.880
<v Speaker 2>a lot going into these shows, Like we're not gonna

0:31:14.920 --> 0:31:17.440
<v Speaker 2>see the movie stars. They saving them for the movies.

0:31:17.520 --> 0:31:19.720
<v Speaker 2>I know, but you can't. But you can't also say like, oh,

0:31:19.840 --> 0:31:22.880
<v Speaker 2>this universe is blended. If you're not gonna do if

0:31:22.920 --> 0:31:26.520
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna bring TV show characters into the movies, then

0:31:26.560 --> 0:31:28.360
<v Speaker 2>you gotta do something in the reverse.

0:31:28.600 --> 0:31:29.200
<v Speaker 3>Like I agree.

0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:32.520
<v Speaker 2>It's like again, I know, Spider Man is doing Spider

0:31:32.520 --> 0:31:34.680
<v Speaker 2>Man shit, but he ain't that busy because his first

0:31:34.720 --> 0:31:39.440
<v Speaker 2>part is friendly neighborhood. So in the hood he's somewhere

0:31:39.680 --> 0:31:43.560
<v Speaker 2>if not him. Again, it's a complaint that we've had

0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:46.720
<v Speaker 2>for a while, but it's just that this series doubles

0:31:46.760 --> 0:31:49.120
<v Speaker 2>down on it, because when you're talking about the mayor

0:31:49.120 --> 0:31:51.760
<v Speaker 2>of New York, it's like that's a huge thing, not

0:31:51.800 --> 0:31:54.240
<v Speaker 2>even just in the city and the state, but across

0:31:54.280 --> 0:31:55.320
<v Speaker 2>the country.

0:31:55.600 --> 0:31:57.840
<v Speaker 3>People know that because this is a big, major market.

0:31:58.560 --> 0:32:00.880
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<v Speaker 2>per second. All right, So I guess i'll answer that

0:32:36.480 --> 0:32:41.080
<v Speaker 2>part first. I guess for me, it doesn't bother me

0:32:41.120 --> 0:32:43.560
<v Speaker 2>as much, maybe because it's also I read. I haven't

0:32:43.560 --> 0:32:47.400
<v Speaker 2>been reading comics as a late, but the comics are

0:32:47.400 --> 0:32:50.360
<v Speaker 2>the same thing, Like it could be a street war

0:32:50.480 --> 0:32:53.840
<v Speaker 2>going on in the same damn city, and it's this

0:32:53.920 --> 0:32:55.720
<v Speaker 2>Spider Man fighting the street war where Dead Nevil was

0:32:55.720 --> 0:32:58.080
<v Speaker 2>supposed to be around the corner, and he ain't helping

0:32:58.160 --> 0:33:00.360
<v Speaker 2>doing shit, and they're never going through shit. This man

0:33:00.360 --> 0:33:02.320
<v Speaker 2>don't help a missions. That's just what the comics do.

0:33:02.800 --> 0:33:03.120
<v Speaker 3>I think.

0:33:03.120 --> 0:33:05.640
<v Speaker 2>I also just I haven't looked at it that way,

0:33:05.680 --> 0:33:08.240
<v Speaker 2>more so because I also recognize I don't know what

0:33:08.280 --> 0:33:10.360
<v Speaker 2>they're gonna do in Brand New Day because Spider Man

0:33:10.440 --> 0:33:12.760
<v Speaker 2>is technically no one technically knows Spider Man at this

0:33:12.800 --> 0:33:16.320
<v Speaker 2>point right now, so I don't know what that looks

0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:18.760
<v Speaker 2>like exactly until and Spider Man is gonna be fighting

0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:20.480
<v Speaker 2>the Hand in Brand New Day.

0:33:20.520 --> 0:33:23.080
<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, because to rescue the Devil. We all know that.

0:33:23.240 --> 0:33:24.960
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, well we'll see, Yeah, you know what I'm saying,

0:33:25.000 --> 0:33:26.840
<v Speaker 2>So we'll see how it all lines up. I don't

0:33:26.880 --> 0:33:29.320
<v Speaker 2>know exactly why he wouldn't have help. Maybe they're answers.

0:33:29.400 --> 0:33:34.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm not giving that too much grift until maybe I

0:33:34.520 --> 0:33:36.320
<v Speaker 2>see the movie. But I didn't really think about it.

0:33:36.320 --> 0:33:37.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be honest to Mike brought it up. That's

0:33:37.960 --> 0:33:40.440
<v Speaker 2>one reason why I didn't care. I didn't. I don't

0:33:40.480 --> 0:33:42.640
<v Speaker 2>ever think about it, Like I just be like, if

0:33:42.680 --> 0:33:45.120
<v Speaker 2>he shows up, cool, but I know you're probably not

0:33:45.200 --> 0:33:47.360
<v Speaker 2>gonna show up, so why even give it a thought

0:33:47.400 --> 0:33:48.440
<v Speaker 2>of like him being.

0:33:48.280 --> 0:33:51.480
<v Speaker 3>Here, not even just Spider Man, like bring in fucking

0:33:51.560 --> 0:33:52.720
<v Speaker 3>raggedy ass. She hoped.

0:33:52.720 --> 0:33:55.480
<v Speaker 2>Then, like if you if you're not going to bring

0:33:55.520 --> 0:33:58.200
<v Speaker 2>in somebody major, because wasn't she in New York?

0:33:58.560 --> 0:34:00.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, now she's in LA but she's in l A.

0:34:00.640 --> 0:34:03.880
<v Speaker 3>I thought she was in New York. She's in l A. Well,

0:34:03.960 --> 0:34:06.080
<v Speaker 3>how did Matt Murdock end up fighting her?

0:34:06.520 --> 0:34:08.680
<v Speaker 2>That's the thing he went to l was dumb he

0:34:08.760 --> 0:34:09.880
<v Speaker 2>was in He went to l A.

0:34:11.040 --> 0:34:13.680
<v Speaker 3>I thought she was in New York. Okay, yeah, yeah.

0:34:14.040 --> 0:34:16.080
<v Speaker 2>My only thing with with with with that Jalen was

0:34:16.120 --> 0:34:19.200
<v Speaker 2>more of like he he's calling out all vigilantes in

0:34:19.239 --> 0:34:21.400
<v Speaker 2>the city like that was that was that was the

0:34:21.440 --> 0:34:24.760
<v Speaker 2>only reason I'm like to the one time where I'm like, Okay,

0:34:24.920 --> 0:34:27.080
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna see some other peoples when like literally he's

0:34:27.080 --> 0:34:29.319
<v Speaker 2>calling out everybody.

0:34:29.520 --> 0:34:30.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I get your point.

0:34:31.520 --> 0:34:34.000
<v Speaker 2>But through the season we also had that through a

0:34:34.040 --> 0:34:37.560
<v Speaker 2>line of through line of BB doing.

0:34:37.360 --> 0:34:38.719
<v Speaker 3>Her Furst high.

0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:42.080
<v Speaker 2>You know what, I mean, what did y'all What did

0:34:42.160 --> 0:34:45.800
<v Speaker 2>y'all think of her doing her little smear campaign of Fisk?

0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:47.080
<v Speaker 3>What did you think of it?

0:34:47.480 --> 0:34:47.719
<v Speaker 1>Mike?

0:34:49.080 --> 0:34:54.040
<v Speaker 3>I could not humanly give a fuck less. It was

0:34:54.200 --> 0:34:55.920
<v Speaker 3>so uninteresting.

0:34:56.719 --> 0:35:00.359
<v Speaker 2>It was so uninteresting, Like I think that a girl

0:35:00.400 --> 0:35:03.400
<v Speaker 2>who plays Bbe, I don't remember her name. I thought

0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:07.480
<v Speaker 2>she played Bbe. Well, she's a good actor. I just

0:35:07.480 --> 0:35:09.920
<v Speaker 2>didn't give a shit about that character. Nor did I

0:35:09.920 --> 0:35:12.720
<v Speaker 2>give a shit about her little love interest with Tony Soprano.

0:35:12.800 --> 0:35:14.440
<v Speaker 3>Boy. I didn't care about none.

0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:17.120
<v Speaker 2>Of this, And like the little the little cuts was like,

0:35:17.160 --> 0:35:20.680
<v Speaker 2>wait a minute, y'all got surveillance all over the city.

0:35:20.760 --> 0:35:24.279
<v Speaker 3>You can't figure out who's doing this shit, Like come on, man,

0:35:24.320 --> 0:35:26.120
<v Speaker 3>this is dumb. This is dumb.

0:35:26.320 --> 0:35:30.320
<v Speaker 4>Look at the physical makeup of the person, Brian.

0:35:30.800 --> 0:35:35.240
<v Speaker 3>Like, come on man, come on. Yeah, I just didn't care. Sorry,

0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:37.000
<v Speaker 3>my thoughts on the whole.

0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:39.840
<v Speaker 2>Thing is like her uncle rolling over in his grave

0:35:39.960 --> 0:35:43.720
<v Speaker 2>right now, kids, he probably looked, He's like we getting

0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:48.840
<v Speaker 2>choked out wasn't as bad as these videos, Like I

0:35:49.480 --> 0:35:53.239
<v Speaker 2>really thought this was going to amount to something as

0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:56.360
<v Speaker 2>far as her getting killed, Like wouldn't it be interested?

0:35:56.400 --> 0:35:57.960
<v Speaker 2>Like she get killed just like her uncle did for

0:35:58.040 --> 0:36:00.960
<v Speaker 2>doing you know, investigative journalism. But the fact that it

0:36:01.040 --> 0:36:04.680
<v Speaker 2>went left it was like I could give a fuck

0:36:04.760 --> 0:36:08.399
<v Speaker 2>about him or her, So like if you wasn't gonna

0:36:08.440 --> 0:36:12.000
<v Speaker 2>take both of them out, then oh, we just see

0:36:12.000 --> 0:36:15.719
<v Speaker 2>her getting those news paper clippings of her uncle as

0:36:15.719 --> 0:36:18.680
<v Speaker 2>she gets a new job, and about that ship.

0:36:18.719 --> 0:36:19.560
<v Speaker 1>She got his job.

0:36:19.960 --> 0:36:21.719
<v Speaker 2>I see, I've seen the writings that she does. She's

0:36:21.719 --> 0:36:23.680
<v Speaker 2>so shitty can that she got to use her aliens.

0:36:25.160 --> 0:36:29.520
<v Speaker 2>That's what she told us last season. So I answer

0:36:29.560 --> 0:36:32.879
<v Speaker 2>the question quickly. I did not care it didn't pay

0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:37.960
<v Speaker 2>off and shout out to the shout out to her getting.

0:36:37.760 --> 0:36:41.080
<v Speaker 3>The roll for a few episodes. So that's I guess.

0:36:41.200 --> 0:36:44.160
<v Speaker 2>Ken with Daniel's death worth all the ship we got

0:36:44.160 --> 0:36:45.400
<v Speaker 2>with him and bb.

0:36:47.560 --> 0:36:49.799
<v Speaker 4>No, But they did try to use that for an

0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:52.560
<v Speaker 4>emotional build up and to have him do the right thing,

0:36:52.960 --> 0:36:57.359
<v Speaker 4>and both of them were placed in a very state

0:36:57.400 --> 0:37:01.440
<v Speaker 4>of conflict because she got this where she has promote

0:37:01.640 --> 0:37:04.320
<v Speaker 4>Fisk and all the good things he's doing around the city.

0:37:04.800 --> 0:37:09.400
<v Speaker 4>So her idea is to create this caricature of the

0:37:09.480 --> 0:37:11.799
<v Speaker 4>kingpin and do the opposite.

0:37:11.920 --> 0:37:13.399
<v Speaker 1>So it's sort of.

0:37:15.320 --> 0:37:20.080
<v Speaker 4>What they say equanimity, No that's euphoria, as Maddie said

0:37:20.080 --> 0:37:22.799
<v Speaker 4>in Euphorida, Like she just said the balance to both

0:37:22.840 --> 0:37:26.080
<v Speaker 4>of them, So that's what's her thing. And then same

0:37:26.160 --> 0:37:29.320
<v Speaker 4>thing with Daniel. Daniel was just stupid and goofy and dumb,

0:37:30.160 --> 0:37:33.520
<v Speaker 4>and he wanted the job and he got the job,

0:37:33.600 --> 0:37:35.440
<v Speaker 4>and then he realized he was working with the devil

0:37:36.160 --> 0:37:40.200
<v Speaker 4>and he had to make the right decision at the

0:37:40.280 --> 0:37:42.520
<v Speaker 4>end of the day, which again none of that makes

0:37:42.600 --> 0:37:46.440
<v Speaker 4>sense because he gets in the car and he's like, yo, like,

0:37:47.000 --> 0:37:49.759
<v Speaker 4>by the way, Buck took me out here, and I

0:37:49.760 --> 0:37:51.640
<v Speaker 4>thought he was gonna kill me, but we actually went

0:37:51.680 --> 0:37:55.560
<v Speaker 4>to go bury a body of the first mate that

0:37:55.600 --> 0:37:59.160
<v Speaker 4>we killed. And since I told you that, I gotta

0:37:59.239 --> 0:38:00.120
<v Speaker 4>let him kill you.

0:38:00.640 --> 0:38:01.160
<v Speaker 1>And that's it.

0:38:01.280 --> 0:38:02.759
<v Speaker 4>And then he got out a car and she just

0:38:03.360 --> 0:38:06.359
<v Speaker 4>squeezed his hand hard enough and he was like, all right,

0:38:06.400 --> 0:38:07.879
<v Speaker 4>well run and don't tell me where you're at.

0:38:07.880 --> 0:38:09.080
<v Speaker 1>And then he just went in there and had a

0:38:09.120 --> 0:38:13.000
<v Speaker 1>fight with Buck and died. That was it.

0:38:14.920 --> 0:38:17.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this was this was bad man, This is bad.

0:38:17.560 --> 0:38:20.239
<v Speaker 2>Like it wasn't worth it, Like it didn't that. I

0:38:20.239 --> 0:38:23.760
<v Speaker 2>think that's episode seven. Maybe it didn't make any sense,

0:38:24.880 --> 0:38:31.400
<v Speaker 2>Like I don't I don't completely like the idea of

0:38:32.040 --> 0:38:35.000
<v Speaker 2>all right, I ain't. I'm in here struggling with it

0:38:35.080 --> 0:38:37.160
<v Speaker 2>at first, but I'm gonna go ahead and tell him anyway,

0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:40.040
<v Speaker 2>and I'm gonna pull up, and then I'm gonna sacrifice

0:38:40.040 --> 0:38:43.160
<v Speaker 2>myself for you. The only way it kind of slightly

0:38:43.680 --> 0:38:45.959
<v Speaker 2>gets away is like, oh, he felt guilty for killing

0:38:46.000 --> 0:38:48.680
<v Speaker 2>that person or like killing that person in the woods,

0:38:48.880 --> 0:38:51.160
<v Speaker 2>so like this is his penance. But I always felt

0:38:51.160 --> 0:38:53.399
<v Speaker 2>he was a whole the whole season, Like I felt

0:38:53.440 --> 0:38:55.960
<v Speaker 2>he was just like trying to find his way up,

0:38:56.000 --> 0:38:57.560
<v Speaker 2>like trying to climb up the ladder, like he didn't

0:38:57.560 --> 0:38:58.560
<v Speaker 2>really care about people.

0:38:59.000 --> 0:39:02.160
<v Speaker 3>So I don't, I don't.

0:39:02.200 --> 0:39:04.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't get it because I would think even a

0:39:04.960 --> 0:39:06.759
<v Speaker 2>little bit of care that he had for her, it

0:39:06.800 --> 0:39:10.399
<v Speaker 2>would turn when he realized he was shoes using like.

0:39:12.480 --> 0:39:15.520
<v Speaker 3>Hm hmm, well they were about to kiss.

0:39:16.239 --> 0:39:22.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, look at him dog like like there wasn't other

0:39:22.440 --> 0:39:25.000
<v Speaker 2>women beating the door down for that motherfucker. So yeah,

0:39:25.040 --> 0:39:27.880
<v Speaker 2>but I'm about to lose my life for you.

0:39:27.920 --> 0:39:30.080
<v Speaker 3>Now, I didn't get to kiss about you on that.

0:39:30.280 --> 0:39:32.120
<v Speaker 2>I feel like it would have made a lot more

0:39:32.120 --> 0:39:35.319
<v Speaker 2>sense if they both ran. Yes, I was why you wait,

0:39:35.440 --> 0:39:36.800
<v Speaker 2>why are you sacrificing yourself?

0:39:37.000 --> 0:39:40.200
<v Speaker 3>Right? It didn't make any sense. Why are you going upstairs?

0:39:40.719 --> 0:39:44.240
<v Speaker 2>Like, if anything, fine, if y'all want to split up, cool,

0:39:44.600 --> 0:39:45.240
<v Speaker 2>but why.

0:39:45.040 --> 0:39:46.640
<v Speaker 3>Are you even going upstairs?

0:39:47.080 --> 0:39:49.000
<v Speaker 2>He could have said she punched me, you let him

0:39:49.000 --> 0:39:50.520
<v Speaker 2>punch you, or something like she got off the car,

0:39:50.600 --> 0:39:52.520
<v Speaker 2>bro like you just let her run away in and

0:39:52.600 --> 0:39:56.839
<v Speaker 2>walked upstairs to your death. And I think they were

0:39:56.840 --> 0:39:58.360
<v Speaker 2>about to kiss. It's just that he was about to

0:39:58.360 --> 0:40:01.239
<v Speaker 2>just keep kissing her ass. She wasn't giving him no

0:40:01.400 --> 0:40:04.759
<v Speaker 2>play the whole season, and I was wondering to me,

0:40:04.880 --> 0:40:06.719
<v Speaker 2>I thought they were gonna do something slick where it

0:40:06.760 --> 0:40:11.680
<v Speaker 2>was like he ends up not only betraying her, like

0:40:11.719 --> 0:40:14.040
<v Speaker 2>you mentioned Jayleen, he's been a sleeve ball for most

0:40:14.040 --> 0:40:17.080
<v Speaker 2>of this series, betraying her and then also killing Buck

0:40:17.200 --> 0:40:19.279
<v Speaker 2>and being becoming the new right hand man. Like you

0:40:19.320 --> 0:40:21.279
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying, that was his way back of

0:40:21.440 --> 0:40:23.560
<v Speaker 2>moving moving up, because that's what I thought they were

0:40:23.560 --> 0:40:25.319
<v Speaker 2>building up for. Like you, first you think Buck is

0:40:25.320 --> 0:40:27.400
<v Speaker 2>the person that he's fearful of, but then he finds

0:40:27.400 --> 0:40:30.759
<v Speaker 2>his own you know, kahnahs and does it and kills

0:40:30.800 --> 0:40:35.000
<v Speaker 2>him himself like the other way around, while also taking

0:40:35.000 --> 0:40:36.879
<v Speaker 2>care of Beebie, Like it was just.

0:40:39.640 --> 0:40:42.040
<v Speaker 3>It just didn't It didn't. It didn't matter. That's the

0:40:42.080 --> 0:40:43.400
<v Speaker 3>thing I want to say. It just didn't matter.

0:40:43.480 --> 0:40:45.640
<v Speaker 2>His last few words he said on the ground, like

0:40:45.880 --> 0:40:48.879
<v Speaker 2>wait till you're the guy like he don't, Buck don't

0:40:48.880 --> 0:40:51.359
<v Speaker 2>give a damn about what you saying. Then they trying

0:40:51.400 --> 0:40:52.799
<v Speaker 2>to make it seem like Buck gave a fuck because

0:40:52.840 --> 0:40:54.319
<v Speaker 2>it took him along time to pull the tricker, like

0:40:54.320 --> 0:40:57.120
<v Speaker 2>they could just pulled the trigger. You knew he was

0:40:57.120 --> 0:40:59.320
<v Speaker 2>gonna kill him. You knew it was gonna kill somebody

0:40:59.320 --> 0:41:02.480
<v Speaker 2>when they got up here. Just go ahead and do it. Yeah,

0:41:02.680 --> 0:41:04.839
<v Speaker 2>I didn't care. I just didn't care. Again half the season,

0:41:04.880 --> 0:41:05.719
<v Speaker 2>I didn't care about a lot.

0:41:05.680 --> 0:41:06.480
<v Speaker 1>Of these characters.

0:41:06.880 --> 0:41:12.560
<v Speaker 3>Y'all had a car. Y'all had a fucking car.

0:41:13.280 --> 0:41:18.319
<v Speaker 2>But you still Bebie run that way and I'm gonna

0:41:18.360 --> 0:41:22.759
<v Speaker 2>go upstairs, get back in the fucking car, or at

0:41:22.840 --> 0:41:24.440
<v Speaker 2>least make this make sense.

0:41:25.520 --> 0:41:28.080
<v Speaker 3>But I'm with y'all. It didn't fucking matter. It didn't

0:41:28.120 --> 0:41:28.960
<v Speaker 3>really go anywhere.

0:41:29.000 --> 0:41:31.200
<v Speaker 2>And at the end of the day, I do think

0:41:31.200 --> 0:41:34.799
<v Speaker 2>that Tony Soprano boy did a good job in that role.

0:41:34.920 --> 0:41:40.120
<v Speaker 2>He's a good actor, but the role itself just didn't

0:41:40.120 --> 0:41:49.279
<v Speaker 2>give me anything. Well, eventually we get to Fisk in

0:41:49.320 --> 0:41:53.320
<v Speaker 2>his boxing match. This is supposed to be the I guess,

0:41:53.360 --> 0:41:59.040
<v Speaker 2>the the nut punch for us, you know, where his

0:41:59.080 --> 0:42:03.040
<v Speaker 2>wife Vanessa gets a piece of glass stuck in her

0:42:03.080 --> 0:42:06.080
<v Speaker 2>head from the incident with Bullseye.

0:42:06.320 --> 0:42:11.000
<v Speaker 3>Did this work for y'all at all? No? Didn't they

0:42:11.040 --> 0:42:12.439
<v Speaker 3>have kill her last season too?

0:42:12.920 --> 0:42:15.680
<v Speaker 1>Yep, it's like mantot.

0:42:16.400 --> 0:42:18.680
<v Speaker 2>I thought, so, yeah, she got shot, but then she

0:42:18.840 --> 0:42:21.480
<v Speaker 2>lived and then this time a fucking thing goes in

0:42:21.480 --> 0:42:25.160
<v Speaker 2>her head. She lived, She died later, but she lived.

0:42:25.160 --> 0:42:28.440
<v Speaker 2>I was like, bro, just kill this motherfucker. Don't nobody

0:42:28.440 --> 0:42:33.319
<v Speaker 2>care about Vanessa at all? So no, this it's not

0:42:33.360 --> 0:42:36.880
<v Speaker 2>like I was like, oh my god, not Vanessa, y'all

0:42:37.360 --> 0:42:38.120
<v Speaker 2>give a fuck.

0:42:40.960 --> 0:42:42.359
<v Speaker 3>It was the way they killed it too.

0:42:42.440 --> 0:42:46.239
<v Speaker 2>It was just like, really, like, at least make it

0:42:46.280 --> 0:42:48.759
<v Speaker 2>like if you don't dress it up, dress it up, like,

0:42:49.360 --> 0:42:53.080
<v Speaker 2>don't let it be no accidental Rick Schi bullshit, like,

0:42:53.360 --> 0:42:56.799
<v Speaker 2>let Bullseye kill her, like, let him let fist see that.

0:42:56.760 --> 0:42:58.960
<v Speaker 3>He did it. And he like, nigga, I'm one of them.

0:42:58.760 --> 0:43:02.440
<v Speaker 2>Ones, right, thought I agree, like I would have rather

0:43:02.480 --> 0:43:04.400
<v Speaker 2>seen that it's just and then they try to make

0:43:04.440 --> 0:43:06.959
<v Speaker 2>it poetically beautiful, Mike, because she had the white dress

0:43:07.000 --> 0:43:14.959
<v Speaker 2>and then the red came out. Man his wife died

0:43:14.960 --> 0:43:18.160
<v Speaker 2>and his wife died in a boxing match at that too.

0:43:18.200 --> 0:43:19.920
<v Speaker 3>I know they I think they pulled that from the comic.

0:43:19.960 --> 0:43:21.960
<v Speaker 3>But it was just like bro were.

0:43:21.880 --> 0:43:24.480
<v Speaker 2>Losing the plot if you keep on just trying to

0:43:24.480 --> 0:43:28.640
<v Speaker 2>make things be spectacles like it's And what was her

0:43:28.680 --> 0:43:29.120
<v Speaker 2>head was?

0:43:29.160 --> 0:43:29.480
<v Speaker 1>It?

0:43:29.600 --> 0:43:32.400
<v Speaker 3>Was it actually figure or toy or something? What was

0:43:32.440 --> 0:43:35.440
<v Speaker 3>stuck in her head?

0:43:37.520 --> 0:43:38.560
<v Speaker 1>Like figure?

0:43:40.440 --> 0:43:42.839
<v Speaker 3>Because I thought he because I thought he think snow

0:43:42.920 --> 0:43:47.920
<v Speaker 3>glow because you know, bulls just be thought.

0:43:51.160 --> 0:43:51.960
<v Speaker 1>It was glow.

0:43:52.880 --> 0:43:55.239
<v Speaker 2>When when fist broke it, I thought some like like

0:43:55.280 --> 0:43:57.440
<v Speaker 2>you said, like a little figurine hit.

0:43:57.320 --> 0:43:59.560
<v Speaker 3>Her dad, I thought it was a figurine that was

0:43:59.560 --> 0:44:00.000
<v Speaker 3>in her head.

0:44:00.200 --> 0:44:03.080
<v Speaker 2>Like it was like the bottom happened when he mantor

0:44:03.160 --> 0:44:07.160
<v Speaker 2>yourself a glass It was glass.

0:44:08.320 --> 0:44:10.120
<v Speaker 3>It was glass. It's definitely glass.

0:44:10.280 --> 0:44:10.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:44:10.560 --> 0:44:12.880
<v Speaker 1>It was like a country.

0:44:13.719 --> 0:44:16.759
<v Speaker 2>And then and then there they're big escape with all

0:44:16.800 --> 0:44:20.320
<v Speaker 2>that security was just their double swinging out the window

0:44:20.560 --> 0:44:26.920
<v Speaker 2>on the one story buildings.

0:44:29.280 --> 0:44:32.640
<v Speaker 4>He doesn't even have Superman strength, no, but he managed

0:44:32.640 --> 0:44:36.320
<v Speaker 4>to get him out of there somehow. But nah, I'm

0:44:36.440 --> 0:44:38.239
<v Speaker 4>laugh and finally killed her off because I'm tired of

0:44:38.280 --> 0:44:39.359
<v Speaker 4>the pump fakes.

0:44:39.120 --> 0:44:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Like me too, rid of her. He told her has

0:44:42.000 --> 0:44:43.799
<v Speaker 1>to stay home. Why are you even here?

0:44:44.120 --> 0:44:45.120
<v Speaker 3>She don't listen, you know.

0:44:45.840 --> 0:44:49.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And then they spent the whole episode doing her

0:44:49.200 --> 0:44:51.480
<v Speaker 4>sind off with her having all these damn dreams and

0:44:51.560 --> 0:44:54.600
<v Speaker 4>ship and then she waking up asking for watermelon juice

0:44:54.640 --> 0:44:54.959
<v Speaker 4>or whatever.

0:44:55.000 --> 0:44:58.799
<v Speaker 1>She asked, don't like that ship? You need to like what.

0:45:00.880 --> 0:45:02.440
<v Speaker 3>What was that?

0:45:03.760 --> 0:45:06.880
<v Speaker 2>Somebody trying to explain that because he told them to

0:45:06.880 --> 0:45:09.800
<v Speaker 2>get the juice and not check her. That's when she died.

0:45:09.840 --> 0:45:11.479
<v Speaker 2>Like if she would have got checked by the nurse,

0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:12.680
<v Speaker 2>she probably could have lived.

0:45:12.840 --> 0:45:18.319
<v Speaker 3>Man trying to make it sense for like how he

0:45:18.400 --> 0:45:19.160
<v Speaker 3>really killed her.

0:45:19.080 --> 0:45:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Or some ship, but he didn't kill her. I was like,

0:45:22.719 --> 0:45:23.280
<v Speaker 1>just didn't.

0:45:23.040 --> 0:45:29.400
<v Speaker 4>Really do a good enough job, and he deserves.

0:45:29.040 --> 0:45:33.960
<v Speaker 3>To die too. That was the most satisfying thing I

0:45:34.000 --> 0:45:34.800
<v Speaker 3>saw all season.

0:45:35.360 --> 0:45:37.919
<v Speaker 2>They did the whole two arc episode with him, because

0:45:37.920 --> 0:45:39.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, he was gassing himself up, like.

0:45:39.560 --> 0:45:42.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, bro, I could do this the best hands.

0:45:43.920 --> 0:45:45.600
<v Speaker 2>And then when she lived, he was like, yeah, I

0:45:45.640 --> 0:45:50.000
<v Speaker 2>told you. When she died there and have a conversation

0:45:50.080 --> 0:45:51.719
<v Speaker 2>with the Kingpin he's talking about to.

0:45:51.640 --> 0:46:00.560
<v Speaker 3>Bring it in. Mother, that would have been you gotta

0:46:00.600 --> 0:46:01.120
<v Speaker 3>tell him to you.

0:46:01.320 --> 0:46:02.839
<v Speaker 2>He's squeezing me too tight, Like.

0:46:03.160 --> 0:46:07.799
<v Speaker 3>Man, bro, he is. You know, he's a violent man,

0:46:07.880 --> 0:46:10.560
<v Speaker 3>and you you let his wife that right, and you're

0:46:10.600 --> 0:46:11.680
<v Speaker 3>going there by yourself.

0:46:12.640 --> 0:46:14.800
<v Speaker 2>But what y'all were they were talking about the dreams

0:46:14.800 --> 0:46:16.200
<v Speaker 2>and ship that was pissing me off.

0:46:17.080 --> 0:46:18.040
<v Speaker 3>That was pissing me off.

0:46:18.080 --> 0:46:20.959
<v Speaker 2>When Rick Grimes went away, they did the same ship.

0:46:21.560 --> 0:46:25.000
<v Speaker 2>And we watched Rick Grimes for thirteen fucking seasons, so

0:46:25.040 --> 0:46:26.000
<v Speaker 2>we cared about that.

0:46:27.239 --> 0:46:30.479
<v Speaker 3>No one gave a fuck about Beanessa in her fucking dreams, bro.

0:46:31.160 --> 0:46:32.960
<v Speaker 2>But when she seriously woke up and was like, give

0:46:33.000 --> 0:46:35.080
<v Speaker 2>me some watermelon juice, I was like, bro, I want

0:46:35.080 --> 0:46:39.799
<v Speaker 2>to turn this off. Who the fuck is looking for

0:46:39.840 --> 0:46:43.440
<v Speaker 2>watermelon juice? He said that make your lips tingle? Why

0:46:43.440 --> 0:46:43.920
<v Speaker 2>do you want that?

0:46:45.239 --> 0:46:50.360
<v Speaker 3>What? What are we talking about? Who wrote this shit?

0:46:50.880 --> 0:46:58.399
<v Speaker 3>Watermelon juice makes your lips tingle? Fuck? What?

0:46:58.400 --> 0:47:04.879
<v Speaker 2>What do y'all feel that the reaction from Fisk after

0:47:04.920 --> 0:47:13.480
<v Speaker 2>this death it fit his character? Yeah yeah that part, yeah, yeah,

0:47:13.480 --> 0:47:16.080
<v Speaker 2>he got he go ahead.

0:47:16.120 --> 0:47:17.759
<v Speaker 4>But Mike, I thought he was gonna go fucking the

0:47:17.880 --> 0:47:22.439
<v Speaker 4>same bro, Like Vanessa was everything to him, And yeah,

0:47:22.480 --> 0:47:24.640
<v Speaker 4>he killed the doctor, but I thought he was gonna

0:47:24.640 --> 0:47:25.640
<v Speaker 4>fucking lose it.

0:47:25.800 --> 0:47:30.480
<v Speaker 3>Me too, me too. He should have killed him. He

0:47:30.600 --> 0:47:37.920
<v Speaker 3>made up for it. That's what y'all talking about.

0:47:42.719 --> 0:47:47.320
<v Speaker 2>But that wasn't overheard though she let him tell me

0:47:47.520 --> 0:47:53.000
<v Speaker 2>some of some of them was there. So there was

0:47:53.040 --> 0:47:56.800
<v Speaker 2>also something else that was happening this season. Karen was

0:47:56.840 --> 0:47:59.759
<v Speaker 2>constantly saying that that they had to take there. They

0:47:59.760 --> 0:48:03.520
<v Speaker 2>had to take a fiscout, like there was no let

0:48:03.560 --> 0:48:06.319
<v Speaker 2>him go to jail or doing it just this normal way,

0:48:06.760 --> 0:48:09.239
<v Speaker 2>and Daredevil was like, no, there has to be another way.

0:48:09.280 --> 0:48:12.480
<v Speaker 2>I just can't do it. Did this pool y'all in

0:48:12.520 --> 0:48:15.480
<v Speaker 2>at all that Daredevil was having his inter turmoil of like, yo,

0:48:15.560 --> 0:48:18.240
<v Speaker 2>we have to find another way, and can and bulls

0:48:18.400 --> 0:48:20.960
<v Speaker 2>everybody else telling him you got to even Jessica Jones,

0:48:21.000 --> 0:48:22.279
<v Speaker 2>you got to kill that motherfucker.

0:48:23.000 --> 0:48:25.279
<v Speaker 3>Did that? Did that help y'all at all? Ken?

0:48:25.320 --> 0:48:27.560
<v Speaker 2>Did that help you at all? Grab onto a little

0:48:27.600 --> 0:48:28.640
<v Speaker 2>something this season?

0:48:29.160 --> 0:48:29.399
<v Speaker 1>Nah?

0:48:29.480 --> 0:48:32.160
<v Speaker 4>Because you know, I know he's supposed to be conflicted

0:48:32.200 --> 0:48:37.440
<v Speaker 4>because of his Catholic upbringing, and you know that always

0:48:37.480 --> 0:48:42.439
<v Speaker 4>has him kind of questioning or unwilling to go there

0:48:43.600 --> 0:48:47.280
<v Speaker 4>and you know, I think he was very indecisive throughout

0:48:47.280 --> 0:48:50.400
<v Speaker 4>this whole season as well. And Karon was supposed to

0:48:50.480 --> 0:48:53.120
<v Speaker 4>be like that one person that kept helping because he

0:48:53.200 --> 0:48:54.360
<v Speaker 4>kept asking like should I do this?

0:48:54.360 --> 0:48:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Should I do that? What do you think about this?

0:48:56.440 --> 0:48:59.800
<v Speaker 4>He never really could make a clear decision on anything

0:49:00.440 --> 0:49:05.200
<v Speaker 4>except not killing Bullseye and s At one point he

0:49:05.200 --> 0:49:08.480
<v Speaker 4>he Levet he loved Bullseye. He left his beat in

0:49:08.600 --> 0:49:09.520
<v Speaker 4>the church.

0:49:11.239 --> 0:49:11.719
<v Speaker 1>Best Bro.

0:49:12.480 --> 0:49:16.520
<v Speaker 4>He left, so you know, but he eventually came back.

0:49:16.560 --> 0:49:19.799
<v Speaker 4>But I think that was also the show, like the

0:49:19.840 --> 0:49:22.840
<v Speaker 4>conflict that he had with himself in regards to unable

0:49:22.880 --> 0:49:25.640
<v Speaker 4>to make a decision, but.

0:49:25.120 --> 0:49:28.920
<v Speaker 1>Overall them as a whole, Nah, not really, it didn't.

0:49:28.960 --> 0:49:29.960
<v Speaker 1>It didn't help me at all.

0:49:31.080 --> 0:49:34.240
<v Speaker 2>Hey, Ken, I forgot Karen got choked up by Kingpin,

0:49:34.360 --> 0:49:39.680
<v Speaker 2>that's what she wanted to and her dumb ass went

0:49:39.760 --> 0:49:41.400
<v Speaker 2>up to the bar. I'm like, why would you go

0:49:41.520 --> 0:49:43.840
<v Speaker 2>up to the bar And he's already the mayor, he

0:49:43.880 --> 0:49:45.520
<v Speaker 2>already put you in jail. He can do whatever you

0:49:45.560 --> 0:49:49.279
<v Speaker 2>want to you. She was surprised she got choked.

0:49:51.680 --> 0:49:56.680
<v Speaker 4>You got you got slapped. You surprised you getting choked?

0:49:56.760 --> 0:49:58.560
<v Speaker 4>You got slapped by therapist Bro.

0:49:59.480 --> 0:50:02.080
<v Speaker 2>Man after the fact, but still I get your point. Yeah,

0:50:02.880 --> 0:50:05.800
<v Speaker 2>she constantly put herself at harm way over and over again,

0:50:06.440 --> 0:50:08.960
<v Speaker 2>over and over. Even the way she got arrested. She

0:50:08.960 --> 0:50:11.880
<v Speaker 2>didn't have to get arrested. Didn't somebody fall or something

0:50:12.320 --> 0:50:13.640
<v Speaker 2>and she went and like helping you out.

0:50:15.360 --> 0:50:17.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he got shot and he went to go check

0:50:17.680 --> 0:50:19.719
<v Speaker 4>on him, and the White Tiger ran off, and she

0:50:19.760 --> 0:50:22.479
<v Speaker 4>stayed there and put her map off, mask off.

0:50:23.000 --> 0:50:29.200
<v Speaker 3>Yep, yeah, yeah, Karen Paige, I don't I don't think

0:50:29.239 --> 0:50:30.280
<v Speaker 3>it was a page.

0:50:30.640 --> 0:50:34.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it was a big issue because all

0:50:34.120 --> 0:50:36.479
<v Speaker 2>superheroes go through this, the ones that try not to kill,

0:50:36.480 --> 0:50:38.839
<v Speaker 2>they always have this dilemma like this is the worst

0:50:38.880 --> 0:50:42.040
<v Speaker 2>villain I've ever dealt with in so many ways. Taking

0:50:42.040 --> 0:50:43.920
<v Speaker 2>them off the map would be easy all my life,

0:50:43.960 --> 0:50:48.880
<v Speaker 2>but then I'll make me like them. Yeah. What I

0:50:48.880 --> 0:50:50.920
<v Speaker 2>didn't like was how they use caring so much in

0:50:51.040 --> 0:50:53.840
<v Speaker 2>those scenes to justify like how far she's been pushed,

0:50:54.080 --> 0:50:56.200
<v Speaker 2>Like when she had that gun up to Bull's eyes forehead,

0:50:56.280 --> 0:50:57.839
<v Speaker 2>I was like, bro, if you don't get you to

0:50:57.840 --> 0:51:01.239
<v Speaker 2>sit your ass down and do what Man had to

0:51:01.239 --> 0:51:03.000
<v Speaker 2>come in there and slap the ship out of her head,

0:51:03.080 --> 0:51:07.560
<v Speaker 2>Like the fuck wrong with you asking him what the

0:51:07.840 --> 0:51:08.399
<v Speaker 2>wrong with him?

0:51:08.440 --> 0:51:10.480
<v Speaker 3>Man? She one doing some dumb ship with the gun

0:51:10.520 --> 0:51:12.200
<v Speaker 3>to the those Let me do it.

0:51:12.280 --> 0:51:15.160
<v Speaker 2>Let me take this burden off for you. You ain't been

0:51:15.160 --> 0:51:16.239
<v Speaker 2>helping ship.

0:51:16.040 --> 0:51:18.160
<v Speaker 3>Right you just wait?

0:51:19.640 --> 0:51:21.960
<v Speaker 2>God damn now I'm in jail for your stupid ass.

0:51:22.200 --> 0:51:24.480
<v Speaker 2>Why do you have from the mission? Just fucking do it?

0:51:24.600 --> 0:51:25.600
<v Speaker 3>You know what to tell? You know?

0:51:26.560 --> 0:51:28.640
<v Speaker 2>Like that's why he was smiling there because he was

0:51:28.640 --> 0:51:31.040
<v Speaker 2>away from her, right right.

0:51:32.920 --> 0:51:35.560
<v Speaker 3>He at least gonna get some fucking jail, but he.

0:51:41.040 --> 0:51:41.640
<v Speaker 1>Won't even know that.

0:51:43.520 --> 0:51:44.960
<v Speaker 3>You just gotta get her perfume in the.

0:51:45.000 --> 0:51:51.479
<v Speaker 4>Common say why oh man?

0:51:51.760 --> 0:51:52.040
<v Speaker 1>Ship?

0:51:53.080 --> 0:51:55.480
<v Speaker 2>So before before we get into the finale, man, is

0:51:55.480 --> 0:51:58.239
<v Speaker 2>there any any plot point of anything that I haven't

0:51:58.239 --> 0:51:59.880
<v Speaker 2>mentioned that y'all really want to touch base on?

0:52:02.239 --> 0:52:04.960
<v Speaker 4>Uh? The only thing I got was, uh, I want

0:52:05.000 --> 0:52:06.840
<v Speaker 4>to ask what you guys think about that dared Double

0:52:07.120 --> 0:52:07.879
<v Speaker 4>king ban fight?

0:52:09.440 --> 0:52:10.600
<v Speaker 3>Which one it was like.

0:52:10.760 --> 0:52:12.920
<v Speaker 1>Six or seven? Episodes seven?

0:52:13.600 --> 0:52:15.680
<v Speaker 3>The painting?

0:52:16.920 --> 0:52:17.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:52:18.040 --> 0:52:23.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, remember that was dope damn right?

0:52:24.280 --> 0:52:25.879
<v Speaker 3>Which one was this? Where where did they fight?

0:52:25.960 --> 0:52:26.279
<v Speaker 1>It was?

0:52:26.400 --> 0:52:27.319
<v Speaker 3>It was episode seven.

0:52:27.360 --> 0:52:30.759
<v Speaker 2>They were in like that winery place and like it

0:52:30.840 --> 0:52:32.440
<v Speaker 2>was that painting and he ended up punching a.

0:52:32.520 --> 0:52:35.280
<v Speaker 3>Rabbits like glove paint. He was whooping.

0:52:35.280 --> 0:52:41.320
<v Speaker 5>Matt's asked for a minute, got mad though, Man, this

0:52:41.400 --> 0:52:45.680
<v Speaker 5>is what you want to like, Yes, motherucker, this talking

0:52:45.800 --> 0:52:46.319
<v Speaker 5>down like.

0:52:47.840 --> 0:52:50.080
<v Speaker 2>We don't have to do this. We don't get the

0:52:50.080 --> 0:52:52.200
<v Speaker 2>funk out of here. Man, what are you talking about?

0:52:52.960 --> 0:52:56.560
<v Speaker 2>We don't see eye to eye, but you don't say nothing.

0:52:57.600 --> 0:53:05.640
<v Speaker 2>You talking about funny motherfucker. Hell, he was saying that

0:53:05.719 --> 0:53:08.600
<v Speaker 2>he grabbed him and threw him against the wall like

0:53:08.719 --> 0:53:11.959
<v Speaker 2>I was tossing like a rat dog. He's like, calm down,

0:53:14.200 --> 0:53:18.600
<v Speaker 2>talking about about you got know the premise of this show, right,

0:53:19.040 --> 0:53:19.759
<v Speaker 2>this is on fight.

0:53:19.960 --> 0:53:20.920
<v Speaker 3>We don't talk.

0:53:23.800 --> 0:53:28.520
<v Speaker 4>That ship and uh bulls yu bulls eyes uh.

0:53:29.840 --> 0:53:31.040
<v Speaker 1>Cold open Yeah.

0:53:31.280 --> 0:53:33.960
<v Speaker 4>And and when he walked into the dinner that ship

0:53:34.080 --> 0:53:34.920
<v Speaker 4>was hard though.

0:53:36.640 --> 0:53:38.960
<v Speaker 2>What I'm saying, that's the one character I ain't man

0:53:39.000 --> 0:53:41.680
<v Speaker 2>at it like I was on the point this season.

0:53:41.760 --> 0:53:49.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I him. I definitely he said I'm good guys, Okay, No,

0:53:49.280 --> 0:53:52.040
<v Speaker 3>that ship was hilarious. He killed all the and he's

0:53:52.080 --> 0:53:55.080
<v Speaker 3>like he's waiting for the cops to show up. Both eyes.

0:53:55.120 --> 0:53:55.760
<v Speaker 3>That guy.

0:53:57.239 --> 0:53:58.680
<v Speaker 2>Even when he had look at the cat to on

0:53:58.719 --> 0:54:05.520
<v Speaker 2>the way canad dog, he was like it's unsanitary for

0:54:05.560 --> 0:54:07.440
<v Speaker 2>you to have them in that nig was scared and

0:54:07.480 --> 0:54:17.880
<v Speaker 2>ship he wasn't all in saying, well, we got the

0:54:17.920 --> 0:54:24.120
<v Speaker 2>final episode. Yeah, I guess I'm just gonna start here.

0:54:24.120 --> 0:54:24.480
<v Speaker 3>It start that.

0:54:24.600 --> 0:54:27.400
<v Speaker 2>What were you'all thoughts of the final episode? Like, overall

0:54:27.440 --> 0:54:29.080
<v Speaker 2>thoughts of the final episode.

0:54:29.960 --> 0:54:30.839
<v Speaker 3>It was a goofy end.

0:54:33.560 --> 0:54:39.759
<v Speaker 2>It was it was the is ending, bro, because it

0:54:39.920 --> 0:54:43.560
<v Speaker 2>was like revealing the secret identity in the courtroom.

0:54:43.920 --> 0:54:47.880
<v Speaker 3>That was that was decent. It was everything that it was.

0:54:50.239 --> 0:54:53.400
<v Speaker 2>It was Everything that followed after that to me was

0:54:53.600 --> 0:54:58.120
<v Speaker 2>He's got more goofy and extreme, especially when we got

0:54:58.120 --> 0:55:00.120
<v Speaker 2>to the n words feel like it was like the

0:55:00.200 --> 0:55:03.600
<v Speaker 2>end of Hamilton where everybody's standing on stage about to

0:55:03.640 --> 0:55:06.040
<v Speaker 2>take him bath, but it was all in city Hall.

0:55:06.400 --> 0:55:08.240
<v Speaker 3>I was like, bro, And then he did his speech

0:55:08.280 --> 0:55:09.839
<v Speaker 3>over the banister. It was just like.

0:55:12.560 --> 0:55:14.600
<v Speaker 2>Going to be January sixth for the good guys.

0:55:14.800 --> 0:55:18.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it just was like, this is just goofy.

0:55:18.200 --> 0:55:20.160
<v Speaker 2>Like the only part that I really like was that

0:55:20.200 --> 0:55:23.200
<v Speaker 2>he just went man it once he was once he

0:55:23.280 --> 0:55:25.680
<v Speaker 2>realized he wasn't gonna be mayor no more, and he

0:55:25.800 --> 0:55:28.080
<v Speaker 2>just said, fuck it, I'm king pinning and start killing

0:55:28.400 --> 0:55:30.600
<v Speaker 2>I love how they don't explain how strong he is.

0:55:31.080 --> 0:55:35.640
<v Speaker 3>He's supposed to be just a bigger man. I'm sorry

0:55:35.760 --> 0:55:39.200
<v Speaker 3>this nigger literally was crushing people against the wall. Bro.

0:55:39.320 --> 0:55:43.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm like Nigo.

0:55:47.239 --> 0:55:53.840
<v Speaker 4>When he told the guy he said, I never seen nobody,

0:55:54.120 --> 0:55:56.359
<v Speaker 4>just the body, and then punched the ship out of him.

0:55:56.360 --> 0:56:00.239
<v Speaker 2>After the fat bro his punches were snapping. Next, it

0:56:00.280 --> 0:56:03.480
<v Speaker 2>was like, how a superhuman.

0:56:03.080 --> 0:56:05.520
<v Speaker 3>Like but Matt let it happen. That's what was making

0:56:05.560 --> 0:56:06.320
<v Speaker 3>me so mad.

0:56:06.960 --> 0:56:09.640
<v Speaker 2>Is I can't say he saw it, but he sees

0:56:09.800 --> 0:56:12.360
<v Speaker 2>in some kind of way like they showed it, like

0:56:12.400 --> 0:56:14.920
<v Speaker 2>he sees like I don't know, he sees in some

0:56:15.040 --> 0:56:17.759
<v Speaker 2>kind of way seeing it sounds, he sees sounds. He

0:56:17.760 --> 0:56:20.560
<v Speaker 2>got in the stagia, so he knew that Kingpin was

0:56:20.640 --> 0:56:23.160
<v Speaker 2>killing motherfuckers. And he's at the bottom of the fucking

0:56:23.160 --> 0:56:26.400
<v Speaker 2>stairs taking his time talking about, hey, y'all stop and

0:56:26.560 --> 0:56:27.640
<v Speaker 2>you got shot.

0:56:28.120 --> 0:56:30.720
<v Speaker 3>I don't give a buck climb the god damn stairs.

0:56:31.120 --> 0:56:32.120
<v Speaker 3>You're daredevil.

0:56:32.640 --> 0:56:36.640
<v Speaker 2>What the fuck? He's really trying to talk this crowd down.

0:56:37.520 --> 0:56:41.600
<v Speaker 2>And this was their idea of a finale. Have a

0:56:41.640 --> 0:56:44.040
<v Speaker 2>crowd of people run up the stairs and Kingpin just

0:56:44.080 --> 0:56:46.080
<v Speaker 2>beat them all up and then Matt go up there

0:56:46.080 --> 0:56:46.920
<v Speaker 2>and have a conversation.

0:56:47.480 --> 0:56:49.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm not here for this, y'all. I'm sorry.

0:56:49.320 --> 0:56:51.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's that's how Yeah, that's a bad taste to

0:56:52.360 --> 0:56:53.040
<v Speaker 2>end things off with.

0:56:53.440 --> 0:56:55.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I didn't think about it that way.

0:56:55.440 --> 0:56:57.719
<v Speaker 4>I liked it only in the sense because the part

0:56:57.760 --> 0:57:00.640
<v Speaker 4>you were talking about Kingpin was fucking fuckers up.

0:57:00.760 --> 0:57:02.120
<v Speaker 1>The only thing I was thinking about was.

0:57:02.080 --> 0:57:04.640
<v Speaker 4>Like, Okay, this is kind of stupid because you just

0:57:05.280 --> 0:57:07.319
<v Speaker 4>you're committing murder, so.

0:57:07.680 --> 0:57:12.240
<v Speaker 1>You're like, you are definitely like now a villain.

0:57:12.719 --> 0:57:15.160
<v Speaker 4>And then they just he killed all Now, now y'all

0:57:15.560 --> 0:57:17.720
<v Speaker 4>got me thinking about this a little bit more logically,

0:57:18.240 --> 0:57:21.200
<v Speaker 4>he killed all those people and got a deal to

0:57:21.240 --> 0:57:21.960
<v Speaker 4>go to a beach.

0:57:23.040 --> 0:57:26.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, missy, what do I always say, care white man?

0:57:26.400 --> 0:57:29.880
<v Speaker 2>Look, he did all The only thing they cared about

0:57:30.000 --> 0:57:32.840
<v Speaker 2>was taking his quote unquote power away and getting him

0:57:32.840 --> 0:57:33.600
<v Speaker 2>out of office.

0:57:34.000 --> 0:57:35.680
<v Speaker 3>It was that was the only thing they care about.

0:57:35.720 --> 0:57:37.560
<v Speaker 3>The carnage and all the ship that.

0:57:37.520 --> 0:57:40.880
<v Speaker 2>He did, the people that he killed, the lives that

0:57:40.920 --> 0:57:43.800
<v Speaker 2>he ruined vicariously, it was just like all that was

0:57:43.840 --> 0:57:46.960
<v Speaker 2>okay as long as you are not mayor, And it

0:57:47.000 --> 0:57:49.320
<v Speaker 2>was just yeah, and then and then that's why, like

0:57:49.360 --> 0:57:52.480
<v Speaker 2>the whole stuff being in the courtroom and like justice.

0:57:52.480 --> 0:57:55.560
<v Speaker 2>They kept talking about them, like who's getting justice? White

0:57:55.560 --> 0:57:58.360
<v Speaker 2>Tiger lost to her uncle. She's still upset about that, like.

0:58:00.120 --> 0:58:05.480
<v Speaker 3>Flipping. Yeah.

0:58:05.640 --> 0:58:10.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, both Daredevil and Kingping got their hallway scenes, but

0:58:10.080 --> 0:58:14.720
<v Speaker 2>it was just like, if I'm looking at the overall picture,

0:58:14.840 --> 0:58:21.920
<v Speaker 2>like this city is fucked completely because it's like when

0:58:21.960 --> 0:58:25.360
<v Speaker 2>it comes to justice, like, who's I'm serving justice anymore?

0:58:26.120 --> 0:58:27.720
<v Speaker 2>When you know all these people could be bought When

0:58:27.720 --> 0:58:30.040
<v Speaker 2>you know that all this stuff was really going down.

0:58:30.440 --> 0:58:32.360
<v Speaker 2>The mayor literally had a port where he was bringing

0:58:32.440 --> 0:58:35.920
<v Speaker 2>drugs and guns legally and getting a tax.

0:58:35.720 --> 0:58:36.280
<v Speaker 3>Break on it.

0:58:36.280 --> 0:58:40.160
<v Speaker 2>Like it was like, yeah, how do you rebuild?

0:58:40.240 --> 0:58:42.080
<v Speaker 3>And then and then Daredevil was upset with the people

0:58:42.080 --> 0:58:42.720
<v Speaker 3>because it's nigga.

0:58:42.720 --> 0:58:44.280
<v Speaker 2>Don't want you to kill them either, because y'all it's

0:58:44.280 --> 0:58:46.160
<v Speaker 2>gonna be it's just gonna be a city full of chaos.

0:58:47.280 --> 0:58:48.600
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what he did, and then he ended

0:58:48.680 --> 0:58:57.520
<v Speaker 3>up going into that's how gonna Yeah, it makes no sense.

0:58:59.160 --> 0:59:04.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the action scenes were dope. Before I went and

0:59:04.480 --> 0:59:09.560
<v Speaker 2>saw Mortar Kombat this this week, like my Homeboy was

0:59:09.560 --> 0:59:11.680
<v Speaker 2>like you watched the finale of Dare Devil. I was like, nah,

0:59:12.040 --> 0:59:14.520
<v Speaker 2>He's like, bro, they they did some ship in it.

0:59:14.800 --> 0:59:16.320
<v Speaker 2>I was like, all right, because I was already had

0:59:16.320 --> 0:59:18.080
<v Speaker 2>told him. I was like, yeah, I'm not feeling the season.

0:59:18.360 --> 0:59:20.520
<v Speaker 2>He's like, they got some shit in there for you,

0:59:21.080 --> 0:59:22.520
<v Speaker 2>and I guess he was just talking about the action

0:59:22.560 --> 0:59:24.480
<v Speaker 2>scenes because everything. Yeah, I'm like, I don't give a

0:59:24.480 --> 0:59:28.600
<v Speaker 2>fuck done none of this really, Like I don't trust

0:59:28.680 --> 0:59:30.480
<v Speaker 2>them with what they're trying to set up. And that's

0:59:30.520 --> 0:59:32.600
<v Speaker 2>where that's where I landed on this. It's like, all right,

0:59:32.640 --> 0:59:35.240
<v Speaker 2>they could be great if they had the right people

0:59:35.240 --> 0:59:38.400
<v Speaker 2>in the room, but you don't. If you, if you,

0:59:38.520 --> 0:59:40.520
<v Speaker 2>if you tell me, we're gonna get everybody back from

0:59:40.560 --> 0:59:43.520
<v Speaker 2>Netflix and we're gonna have them just write everything. Bet

0:59:43.640 --> 0:59:45.920
<v Speaker 2>y'all set them up for some good ship to happen. Now,

0:59:46.480 --> 0:59:49.120
<v Speaker 2>all right, but that's not what y'all are about to do.

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<v Speaker 2>It didn't make sense for them to be up there

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<v Speaker 2>on Ben telling each other this is we're gonna we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna call the truth in front of everybody, like, no, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not how this That doesn't make sense, not for

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<v Speaker 2>because when Wilson Fitz straight up said he's not going

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<v Speaker 2>out like that before he went on that rampage when

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<v Speaker 2>that woman came and gave him the phone because the

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<v Speaker 2>ag was on the phone and he was like he

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<v Speaker 2>just hung up on him. He's like, I'm not taking

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<v Speaker 2>a deal. No, that's that's Kingpin. That's Kingpin. Kingpin doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>sit up there and take that deal. That does not happen.

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<v Speaker 2>So for y'all ended there and him to just go

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<v Speaker 2>on some island, it's bullshit. It is bullshit. So you

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<v Speaker 2>could have savaged some of this season by giving me

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<v Speaker 2>a good action scene and maybe Kingpin escapes by doing

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<v Speaker 2>some crazy shit. But y'all don't even give me that.

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<v Speaker 2>Y'all just gave me easy out because.

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<v Speaker 3>Y'all don't know what the fuck to do. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't that hard, man, It really wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>It was better than what we got most of the season, probably,

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<v Speaker 2>like most of the season was block until we've just

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<v Speaker 2>got basically, so it kind of I guess, yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>great in it on a curve, Yeah, because if you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna focus on politics, make the politics interesting, because like

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<v Speaker 2>there was two storylines we didn't care about. The main

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<v Speaker 2>storyline didn't really add up at the end, and then

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<v Speaker 2>you gave us maybe three great action scenes throughout the

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<v Speaker 2>whole season. Yeah, yeah, it.

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<v Speaker 3>Just yeah, it didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>It didn't work for me, So I mean, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I said, maybe season three, I binge the whole

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<v Speaker 2>season when I'm bored, but I'm not in a rush

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<v Speaker 2>to watch it at all. Like it really it really

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<v Speaker 2>sucks because I thought maybe this was gonna go into

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<v Speaker 2>something great before spoder Man, and that didn't happen. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>the Punisher, Maybe the Punisher is supposed to get me

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<v Speaker 2>more because Punisher is actually in spoder Man. So maybe

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<v Speaker 2>this this one off that comes out tomorrow while we're

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<v Speaker 2>since while we're recording.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, maybe that, maybe that'll.

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<v Speaker 2>Do something funny. I'm holding onto a glimpse of hope

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<v Speaker 2>for that. But other than that, I ain't in the

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<v Speaker 2>rust to see dad though again while it's under the

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<v Speaker 2>hands of this MCU need You creatives.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I agree, I agree. I'm interested.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm interested in Punisher only because it's John Burnhal and

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<v Speaker 2>I'll watch anything that my man John Burnhal is in.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the only white man that I will accept saying nigga,

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<v Speaker 2>and I guarantee this whole season it's just gonna be him.

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<v Speaker 2>Fucking black chicks and listen to Wu Tang that's money

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<v Speaker 2>and killing cops. John Burnhal is the blackest white man

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<v Speaker 2>on the plane. So I'm here for Punisher. I'm with

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<v Speaker 2>you because the trailer for the special presentation that's coming

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<v Speaker 2>out this week his black Homeboy that was in the

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<v Speaker 2>series with him doing with the one leg. He was

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<v Speaker 2>the one monologue and this shit, I'm oh, yeah, bro,

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<v Speaker 2>they bringing the whole band back. He forgot about us, No,

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<v Speaker 2>he got.

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<v Speaker 3>The hood right on his back.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm with it. But yeah, I'm with you, Jalen.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have any more faith in Daredevil with the

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<v Speaker 2>current writers that they have.

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<v Speaker 3>I hear people are really liking it. I'm glad they

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<v Speaker 3>like it.

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<v Speaker 1>They do.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad they like it. I don't really see what

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<v Speaker 2>they like, but I'm happy that they're enjoying it.

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<v Speaker 3>But this was not a good time for me. I

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<v Speaker 3>can see why they like it, just because.

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<v Speaker 2>We're like over ten years removed from like the original

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<v Speaker 2>are miror of that, so like this is probably a

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<v Speaker 2>new audience who hasn't seen Daredevil live, who hasn't done

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<v Speaker 2>their homework, because that's the one thing I was interested

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<v Speaker 2>about this season. It's like now they're basically saying like

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<v Speaker 2>because they're trying to bring all the band back together,

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<v Speaker 2>all the characters, it's like, you got to do your

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<v Speaker 2>homework now to watch this series, which at first they

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<v Speaker 2>when they said Darre Deevil born again, I thought they

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<v Speaker 2>were trying to reboot it. So you didn't like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>if you were a fan of the old one, we

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<v Speaker 2>have some stuff here for you. But if you just

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<v Speaker 2>coming in fresh, you don't have to do too much work.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it's like, noah, fuck that, like go back into

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<v Speaker 2>your work, which is interesting because that was the case.

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<v Speaker 2>You could have done things completely different. But that's, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>an argument we already talked into the ground. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm interested in season three, but like y'all, I probably

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<v Speaker 2>will just I won't binge watch it.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I won't watch it weak, I'll binge watch it.

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<v Speaker 1>Mhm.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and I'm not I don't give it. Like Jessica Jones,

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<v Speaker 2>the first season was great, Like I have that as

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<v Speaker 2>maybe the probably that see the first season is probably

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<v Speaker 2>the third best season and that holds it like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so I was hoping it was gonna do something with her.

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<v Speaker 2>Ain't do anything here to get me excited about her either.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they really didn't do anything with her.

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<v Speaker 4>She just popped up and she just lost the powers

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<v Speaker 4>because she was pregnant and she got yeah, the center,

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<v Speaker 4>everything that's coming up with, Yeah, thunder Boats and to bring.

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<v Speaker 6>Luke Cage and all the mother was back in. That's

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<v Speaker 6>that's all it was. They just trying to appeal to

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<v Speaker 6>the mixed audiences and stuff. Look this d D I here, devil.

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<v Speaker 3>Can spend there know what I without? That's right? Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>but I do it for us.

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<v Speaker 2>Man again, man, Join our Patreon where there's more exclusive content.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, uh but yeah.

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