1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: Line from ball Hart, Blind and The Crossroads of America. 2 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: It's Tony Katz today. 3 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 2: So Bill Clinton knows nothing, Bill Clinton saw nothing. It 4 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 2: doesn't explain why Jeffrey Epstein had a painting of Bill 5 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 2: Clinton in a blue dress in his house. 6 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 3: I mean, the idea that he. 7 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: Knows nothing, saw nothing, never heard anything that was never 8 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 2: heard of anybody who ever heard anything. 9 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 3: I don't. It's harder to believe with Bill. With Hillary, 10 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 3: I think that. 11 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 2: She's a pretty awful person. I mean, when it comes 12 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: to Hillary Clinton, anybody who would say this right here, as. 13 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 3: She did just last week in Munich. 14 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 4: Their concerns about it because they worry about the impact 15 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 4: on existing institutions like the family community and others. So 16 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 4: this really, yes, migration has been a huge flashpoint. More 17 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 4: people were deported under my husband and Barack Obama, without 18 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 4: killing American citizens and without putting children into detention camps 19 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 4: than were in the first Trump term or this first 20 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 4: year of Trump's second term. 21 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 3: So I think it's important to. 22 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 4: Look at the facts because very often the ideological impulse 23 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 4: to try to protect the status quo or return making 24 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 4: America great again in some nostalgic past that existed for 25 00:01:54,480 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 4: white men, and capitalist enterprise was not exactly open and 26 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 4: welcoming to people who look like me and a lot 27 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 4: of other people. 28 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, don't ask me to sit here and think well 29 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 2: of people who go after capitalism. If it wasn't for capitalism, 30 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 2: how could so many people have donated to your bullcrap organizations? 31 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 3: Hillary? I mean, where would they've gotten the money to 32 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 3: create your lifestyle? 33 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 2: Where else could they have gotten the dollars to try 34 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 2: and buy access to you and your husband who is 35 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 2: involved in extra sexual activities while he should have been 36 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 2: running the country. I mean, I didn't vote for him 37 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 2: to get his freak on. Tony Katz, Tony Kats today. 38 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 2: Good to be here, Good to be with you. Understand. 39 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 3: I have no issue with anything Bill Clinton did outside. 40 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 2: Of his marriage. I'm not involved in his marriage. That's 41 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 2: between him and Hillary. I have an issue with him 42 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 2: doing it while on the clock. You don't get to 43 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 2: have a good time while you're on my time. You 44 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 2: work while you're on my time. You want have a 45 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 2: good time, get off the can go do anything you 46 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 2: want to do. Ain't my problem, not my pig, not 47 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 2: my farm. There are a lot of reasons not to 48 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 2: like Hillary Clinton. Do I think Hillary Clinton was involved 49 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 2: in the sexual exploits of children? 50 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 3: As I've said, No, I don't. 51 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton was there giving the deposition yesterday closed door 52 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 2: in front of Comer and the Oversight Committee, and she 53 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 2: was not happy about it. 54 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 4: It then got at the end quite unusual because I 55 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 4: started being asked about UFOs and a series of questions 56 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 4: about Pizzagate, one of the most vile, bogus conspiracy theories 57 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 4: that was propagated on the Internet, that was serving as 58 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 4: a basis of a member's questions to me. So I 59 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 4: can only say that the best exchange that I had 60 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 4: came at the very end, when, contrary to every other 61 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 4: deposition they have taken, no Republican member asked any questions 62 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 4: about Jeffrey Epstein or Glaine Maxwell to anyone else they 63 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 4: have deposed. 64 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm supposed to take from that, 65 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 2: and I'd also don't know if I would ever believe 66 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton. Why would I ever possibly believe Hillary Clinton. 67 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 2: Did I think for a second that she's got it 68 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 2: summed up properly? 69 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 3: That's not That's not what I do with her. 70 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 2: She did day that she would have much rather to 71 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 2: have had this happen. 72 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 3: In public. 73 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 4: Do you believe this? 74 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 3: Do you believe this was a fear hearing? And do 75 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 3: you still want to testify publicly. 76 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: Even though you be a this deposition. 77 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 4: Well, I'm not going to do it again. Uh. You know, 78 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 4: they had a chance to do it in public, and 79 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,119 Speaker 4: I wish they had done it in public. And I think, uh, 80 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:34,679 Speaker 4: they're making the wrong decision avoiding doing it in public. 81 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 3: I thought it was very repetitive. I thought that uh uh. 82 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 4: They asked literally the same questions over and over again, 83 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 4: which didn't seem to me to be very productive. 84 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 2: Uh. 85 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 4: And then, as I said, toward the end, you know, 86 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 4: there were other questions that were totally off off subject. 87 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 3: Uh So, if if. 88 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 4: They are going to fulfill their response on abilities to 89 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 4: literally investigate the investigations, which is what they originally said 90 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 4: was the scope of their work, I think they could 91 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 4: have spent the day more productively. 92 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 2: You forget that she is very, very good, very skilled 93 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 2: at the turnarounds. I will also state that it seems 94 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 2: that every time that Hillary is involved in something, every 95 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 2: single time the political right screws it up, they like 96 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 2: screw up the ability to have the conversation to handle 97 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 2: it properly? Do I think Hillary should have been deposed? Absolutely? 98 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 2: Who is Hillary to somehow think that this is a 99 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 2: beneath her or it doesn't matter. I mean, after all, 100 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:02,559 Speaker 2: it was Hillary who had Julaanne Maxwell. 101 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 3: At her daughter's wedding. 102 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 2: You know that, right, Julanne Maxwell was at Chelsea Clinton's wedding. 103 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 3: And here's how she answered that question. 104 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 5: Jan She's can I ask why was Colleen Maxwell be 105 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 5: bought at Chelsea Clinton's wedding in two thousand and seven? 106 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 5: She'd already be mentioned in a civil lawsuit by for 107 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 5: Junior chew Free before that, Jeffrey Empci, already being convict 108 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 5: you before that. 109 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 4: She came as the plus one, the guest of someone 110 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 4: who was invited, thank you all. 111 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 3: And she got off the stage as fast as she could. 112 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 2: You let someone like that at your daughter's wedding because 113 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 2: she was a guest. 114 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 3: She was a plus one. See just as you think. 115 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 2: Hillary is like, well, she had this angle coverage, she 116 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 2: had that angle coverage, had the other angle coverage. She 117 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 2: was a plus one and you let her come to 118 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 2: the wedding. You insane. You let that woman show up 119 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 2: at your daughter's wedding. You didn't look at the person 120 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 2: say get that woman. 121 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 3: Out of here. 122 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 2: Well you wouldn't say that, Oh, I would have said 123 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 2: that in a second. There were one or two people 124 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 2: who weren't invited to my wedding and they were upset 125 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 2: by it. But we knew that they would be a problem, 126 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 2: and we didn't invite problems to the wedding. I only 127 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 2: had to turn to my father, who was to arrest 128 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 2: his soul. It wasn't an easy relationship, and say to him, hey, 129 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 2: some people are ridiculous. It's possible one or two people 130 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 2: who were told they couldn't come to the wedding might 131 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 2: think that they could show up because they think they're 132 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 2: in charge, you. 133 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 3: Know what to do. And he's like, I got it. 134 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 3: We didn't even There was not even a wink. There 135 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 3: was just a got it, you know what to do. 136 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 2: Of course, by the way, that did happen, and no 137 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 2: one showed up, just some people who were upset that 138 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 2: they did not get the invite. 139 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 3: Hey, it was a small wedding, paid for it ourselves. 140 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 2: And if you were going to be somebody who had 141 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,199 Speaker 2: questions about whether or not we were making the right decision, 142 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 2: we didn't need you there. We knew we were making 143 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 2: the right decision, and a lot of years later we're 144 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 2: still here. You let Elaine Maxwell show up at your weddings. 145 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 2: So that's the moment where she kind of falls apart. 146 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 2: That for all the strength and her answers, and I 147 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 2: would say to you, she handles these things very, very well. 148 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 2: She is bulletproof in that way. She didn't handle it perfectly, 149 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 2: not in the slightest. Do I think she was involved 150 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 2: with children? 151 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 6: No? 152 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 3: Do I think she saw things? It's very possible. Do 153 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 3: I think Bill Clinton saw things? Ten thousand per I do, 154 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 3: and I. 155 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 2: Think you do too. Does that mean he did something wrong? 156 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 2: I would have no way to prove that. But Bill 157 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 2: Clinton telling the committee I saw nothing and I did 158 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 2: nothing wrong. Sure, I'm not buying this. I buy it 159 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:26,719 Speaker 2: with Hillary, not buying it with Bill. You were on 160 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 2: the plane. We get to ask questions. 161 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 3: Were you on the island. We get to ask a 162 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 3: lot of questions. 163 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 2: There are pictures of you, there are pictures of you 164 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:50,479 Speaker 2: Epstein girls. There are questions that are allowed to be asked. 165 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 2: And Bill Clinton puts out some prepared testimony, and he 166 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 2: the prepared testimony, he said, before we start, I have 167 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 2: to get person all you made Hillary come in. She 168 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 2: had nothing to do with Jeffrey Epstein nothing. She has 169 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 2: no memory of even meeting him. She neither traveled with 170 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 2: him nor visited any of his properties. Whether he's being 171 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 2: at ten people or ten thousand, including her, was simply 172 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 2: not right. With all due respect, mister president, this idea 173 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 2: that you get to be all chivalrous and defending your 174 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 2: wife that dog won't hunt. There are many of us 175 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 2: who defend our wives. I don't know if when you 176 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 2: do it it has the same. 177 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 3: Effect. 178 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 2: What did Bill Clinton know and when did he know? 179 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 2: It is a good question in all of these things. 180 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 2: Who abused these young women? And how do we put 181 00:11:54,320 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 2: them behind bars? Republican Democrat, conservative, liberal, black, white, Asian, Hispanic, rich, poor. 182 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 2: I don't care, and you shouldn't either. We're gonna learn 183 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 2: anything from their depositions. 184 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 3: I don't know. 185 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 2: Does their deposition then help in increasing the opportunities to 186 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 2: bring charges against someone else? 187 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 7: I don't know. 188 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 2: Was it right to subpoena both of them? Absolutely? Was 189 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 2: it right to force them to give the testimony? Absolutely? 190 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 2: Now Democrats are cheering all this on because they think 191 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 2: that this is a moment of gotcha. This is a 192 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 2: moment of Aha, now we can do the same thing 193 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 2: to Trump. 194 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 6: I'm Rocanna from California. I want to echo what all 195 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 6: my colleagues said. A new president has been set in 196 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 6: America today. Before this, we had the Trump rule. Trump defied, 197 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 6: as all of you know a congressional subpoena with the 198 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 6: January sixth Committee. He said, presidents don't have to testify. 199 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 6: Now we have the Clinton rule, which is that presidents 200 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 6: and their families have to testify when Congress issues a subpoena. 201 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 2: So what you care about is going after Trump, not 202 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 2: finding who was abusing children. 203 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 3: Rocanna has really gone down an ugly road. 204 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 2: A guy who used to have some respect for at 205 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 2: least he believed in free speech. 206 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 3: He believed there should be an open exchange. 207 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 2: No, no, no, you don't care that children were violated. 208 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 2: You don't care. This is all about how do we 209 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 2: get Trump? And I think this has to be how 210 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 2: do we find who abuse children? 211 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 3: You wanna. 212 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 2: You want to depose Howard Luckneck, Go right ahead, the 213 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 2: guy admits. The Commerce Secretary admits to being on the 214 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 2: island stopping by when he said he had nothing to 215 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 2: do with Jeffrey Epstein having lunch there with his family, 216 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 2: not only whoever was with Epstein, but Howard Lutnick's family. 217 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 3: They were on a boat. 218 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 2: Remember, these people have a tremendous amount of money, and 219 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 2: we're not surprised that they all knew each other. 220 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 3: We're not surprised by this at all. 221 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 2: Go ahead to pose them. 222 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: I have. 223 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 2: No problem with that whatsoever. Knock yourself out. You think 224 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 2: I'm bothered by this. If they're listed, go ahead and 225 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 2: depose them, go right ahead. But if you think you've 226 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 2: got the story on Trump, let us all be perfectly clear. 227 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 2: Everything said about Trump has already been discredited regarding Epstein, 228 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 2: except for his own words where he was saying I 229 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 2: heard Epstein was a freak, and I threw him out 230 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 2: of mar A Lago, and I thought Julain Maxwell was evil. 231 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 2: And I told West Palm Beach, authority is this. And 232 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 2: I told these people that he's the only guy so 233 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 2: far who seems so said out loud, that guy's no good. 234 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 3: Get rid of him, Get them away from me. Can't 235 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 3: get out of there fast enough. 236 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 2: And all of these arguments of the allegations of Trump 237 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 2: and a fourteen year old from a source that is 238 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 2: known to be uncredible and no corroborating evidence whatsoever. But 239 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 2: don't worry. The Left is going to keep saying that 240 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 2: he's a pedophile. They're going to ignore people who have 241 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 2: been involved in in flagrante delecto like Bill Clinton, and 242 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 2: Rocan is only happy that he can now go after Trump. Fantastic. 243 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 2: Everything is just going great. I'm Tony Katz. This is 244 00:15:52,720 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 2: Tony Katz today. Let's talk Cuba, where you had ten 245 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 2: people bought a speedboat registered in the United States. 246 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 3: Shot at off the coast of Cuba. 247 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 2: Four people were killed, the other six on the boat injured. 248 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 3: And what the Cubans said was that. 249 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 2: These people were coming to engage in terrorism in Cuba. 250 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 2: Tony Kats, Tony Kats today. 251 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 3: Good to be with you. 252 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 6: And what. 253 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 2: Secretary of Saint Marco Rubio said was, Yeah, I'm not 254 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 2: gonna believe anything that the Cubans have to tell me. 255 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 2: I'm not going to buy into that at all whatsoever. 256 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 2: He's right to not believe the Cubans. How in the 257 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 2: world does this happen? And now you learn that there 258 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 2: were two Americans who were shot. One was killed a 259 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 2: guy out of Tampa. The guy out of Tampa is 260 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 2: a Cuban national who has become an American citizen, and 261 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 2: as now has been reported in multiple outlets, this guy's 262 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 2: brother told the Associated Press that his brother had been 263 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 2: in an obsessive and diabolical quest to free Cuba from 264 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 2: its communist government. 265 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 3: And it is possible that these people got on a 266 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 3: boat and headed to Cuba to try and kill Cuban leadership. 267 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 3: This story is insane. This story is certifiable. 268 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 2: Now I want to say, for the record, I'll wait 269 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 2: for more data, I'll wait for an investigation, I'll wait 270 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 2: for statements from the Secretary of State. 271 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 3: But you hear that. 272 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 2: The Cubans say this, and you're like, yeah. For a 273 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 2: first rule, never believe a communist. First rule is never 274 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 2: believed a communist. The second is, never go in against 275 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 2: the Sicilian when death is on the line. That's the 276 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 2: second rule. Never trust the communists. Never go in against 277 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 2: the Sicilian when death is on the line. Those are 278 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 2: the first two. We'll get to other. 279 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 3: Rules and then. 280 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 2: You don't believe them, and then you have the brother like, yeah, 281 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 2: the guy was my brother was insane and he thought 282 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 2: he could topple the Cuban government and wanted to. 283 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 3: Story's crazy. Certifiable story. 284 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 2: I want the Cuban government gone, and I want the 285 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 2: Cubans to be free, and I want the people who 286 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 2: had to leave Cuba. 287 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 3: And this is where it's going to get. 288 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 2: You want to talk about where the wheel fight's going 289 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 2: to be when someday, hopefully soon and speedily, even in 290 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 2: our lifetime, the communist Cuban government falls. There are gonna 291 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 2: be a lot of people who want to return to Cuba, 292 00:18:55,560 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 2: family members, extended family members of those who left, to who. 293 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 3: Fled, and they're gonna claim this is our land. 294 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 2: I that fight is going to be the fight of 295 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 2: fights who gets the property because, with all due respect, 296 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 2: it's Cuba. It has the opportunity of most gorgeous beaches 297 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 2: and incredible waters. You know how many hotel groups are 298 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 2: gonna want the beach from property. It's going to be 299 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 2: an insane fight tracing back lineage and whose property. 300 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:37,479 Speaker 8: Belongs to the pit this tony catch Today, the moves 301 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 8: that we're hearing about would make one think that we're 302 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 8: closer to some level of conflict with Iran. 303 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 3: My sources say this isn't there yet, But you had. 304 00:19:54,560 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 2: You had Mike Huckabee make the announcement that they are 305 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 2: evacuating the embassy in Jerusalem. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, 306 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 2: Good to be here, Good to be with you. My 307 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 2: sources are like, when you start evacuating things in Baghdad, 308 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 2: let me know. I'm like, I'm not sure I even 309 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 2: know how to take that. The argument is is that 310 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:28,719 Speaker 2: no one's ready yet. They're still working this idea of 311 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 2: some level of diplomacy. I'm telling you, I do not 312 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 2: know what the diplomacy is for. I am not making 313 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 2: the statement that there has to be a fight. I'm 314 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 2: looking for a fight, I want to fight. I am 315 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 2: not making that statement at all. I'm making a statement 316 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 2: that if we're going to engage diplomacy to have a 317 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 2: RAN and its nuclear capabilities, which I thought we ended, 318 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 2: that would mean the eye told is staying. And I 319 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 2: keep bringing this up to people. How does it not 320 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 2: mean that he's staying, And how is that, in any way, 321 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 2: shape or form something that we should be in favor of, 322 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 2: considering what it is that the President said to the 323 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 2: people when he said help is on its way. Help 324 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 2: is on its way about what and if it's not 325 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 2: freeing these people, I don't know what we're talking about. 326 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 2: The chatroom wants regime change. Wait a second, so do I. 327 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 2: I am saying the negotiation doesn't lend itself to the 328 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 2: concert of regime change unless the negotiation they claim is 329 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 2: about nuclear X, Y, and Z, and it's really a 330 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 2: negotiation about where he's going to go, where he's going 331 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 2: to live. 332 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 3: What kind of medical care he's going to get, et cetera. 333 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 2: Are they negotiating his exit package if you will, which. 334 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 3: I would be allly in favor of. 335 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,959 Speaker 2: Oh, I'd be I would be fine with it, except 336 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 2: it doesn't doesn't get. 337 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 3: Talked about in that in that way, it doesn't. And 338 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 3: so I'm not sure where we are. You know, I had. 339 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 2: Ed Marcy on the show yesterday and he was under 340 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 2: the opinion that we would see some movement. 341 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 3: Regarding Iran this weekend. 342 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 2: Yet I have the story here from military dot Com 343 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 2: that Rubio is going to visit Israel next week. Rubio 344 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 2: is not going to visit Israel if he thinks the 345 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 2: United States is going to hit Iran. That's that's not happening. 346 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 2: Hold on, did I say anything that you don't already believe? 347 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 2: It's you and me on a barstool. They're gonna send 348 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 2: the Secretary of State to Israel when they know Israel 349 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 2: is gonna take a couple hundred, if not a couple 350 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 2: of thousand drones and missile hits if the United States 351 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 2: hits around, They're gonna try and unload every missile they 352 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 2: have into Israel before their missile launchers get found and destroyed. 353 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 2: And you send the Secretary of State. Yeah, I don't 354 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 2: buy that one either. So maybe there is a bit of. 355 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:33,439 Speaker 3: A pause going on here now. 356 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 2: This is actually taking a bit of a half a 357 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 2: back seat. Have you been following what's going on with 358 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 2: Pakistan and Afghanistan. I did not know that there was 359 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 2: a strike that took place like five days ago, where 360 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:04,719 Speaker 2: the pack is Stani's claim that the Afghanisan, really the 361 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 2: Taliban struck Pakistan and then Pakistan struck back and eighteen 362 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 2: people were killed. Now you've got Pakistan, which has I 363 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 2: believe we will call it capabilities, and you have Afghanistan 364 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 2: the Taliban, which has all the hardware Joe Biden left 365 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 2: for them. 366 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 3: This can get ugly. 367 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 2: But I had not heard about the I don't know. 368 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 2: Maybe I was getting ready for the State of the Union. 369 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 2: I wasn't paying attention like I should be They had 370 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 2: a ceasefire going back to October, but now things seem 371 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 2: to be back. Residents in Kabul are hearing missile bat 372 00:24:55,480 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 2: right explosions across the area. Every side is making a claim, Ah, 373 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 2: we inflicted the heavy losses. They've always inflicted the heavy losses. 374 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 2: Who knows what is actually true. What I know is 375 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 2: that if you're Trump, you're watching. What kind of level 376 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 2: of spillover does this have? How does this affect others 377 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 2: in the regions? What can you live with, what can 378 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 2: you try to what kind of diplomacy can you issue 379 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 2: or engage from Afar? 380 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 3: And are you even considering it? No, but I can't 381 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 3: focus on that. I can only focus on this thing 382 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 3: right now. 383 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 2: I did not know that was taking that was taking place, 384 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 2: and it does add a little bit of a wrinkle. 385 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 3: Does it require any of our. 386 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 2: Attention, which would mean taking an eye off the ball? 387 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:59,199 Speaker 2: With where you now have two aircraft carriers. We have 388 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 2: two air craft carriers that are in in the area. 389 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 2: You've got the gerald Ford which is the largest. 390 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 3: You've got the Dwight Eyesenhower in the Red Sea. 391 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 2: You have the US's Abraham Lincoln in the Arabian Sea. 392 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 3: Near Oman. So this is this is where we're at. 393 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 3: These are the ones that we have. 394 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 2: We have the Eyesenhower in the Red Sea, We've got 395 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 2: the Abraham Lincoln in uh near Oman, in the Arabian Sea, 396 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 2: and the geralds Ford in the Eastern med. I mean 397 00:26:53,480 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 2: they're ready, They're in a level of position. Some people argued, 398 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 2: you don't leave them in a level of position like that. 399 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 3: For three weeks. 400 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 2: I've had some people say to me, you don't expect 401 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 2: anything to take place in a round until kind of 402 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 2: mid March. These are floating fortresses. Who's going to bother them? 403 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 2: I don't see that being an issue. I only question 404 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 2: whether or not there's going to be some level of 405 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 2: delay because of Afghanistan and Pakistan. If you told me no, 406 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,959 Speaker 2: I would I would believe you. I would ten thousand 407 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 2: percent believe you. But I will leave open that there's 408 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 2: the possibility. And then this one. You guys know, I'm 409 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 2: not a death penalty guy. 410 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 3: I don't know if you knew that or not. I 411 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 3: used to be. I used to be a death penalty guy. 412 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 2: And then I watched more and more about how people 413 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 2: we're given the death penalty, and then we learned that 414 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 2: some prosecutor held back information or someone heres misread a 415 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 2: test results, and I'm like, I can't, I can't, I 416 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 2: can't do that. I can't be in favor of the 417 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 2: death penalty if this human error thing or this purposeful 418 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 2: error thing is gonna take place. 419 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 3: No way, even though I know someone's guilty, I have. 420 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,360 Speaker 2: Put myself in all places where I'm like, yeah, I'm 421 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,880 Speaker 2: just I'm not the guy. And maybe if I'm really 422 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 2: pressed on it, I could say, look, if it's truly 423 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 2: open and shut, okay, But if it's not open and shut, 424 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 2: absolutely not. Can't be around it, can't have it, don't 425 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 2: want to be a part of it. 426 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 4: No. 427 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 3: Then there's this story. This is from military dot Com. 428 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 2: The headline is gross x US Air Force pilot arrested 429 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 2: claimed to have provided training to China. Okay, all right, 430 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 2: I guess we can go back to the death penalty. 431 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 7: Now, out of my head, out of my just like you, 432 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 7: this is the kind of stuff where it's like, you 433 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 7: know what, you know what death penalty. 434 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 3: Makes perfect sense. 435 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 2: He is a sixty five year old arrested in Jeffersonville, Indiana, 436 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 2: which is about would you say, landing like two and 437 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 2: a half hours south Jville. Jeffersonville is right across the 438 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 2: Ohio River from Louisville. Right the Ohio River separates Indiana 439 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 2: and Kentucky. Criminally charged for the violations of what you 440 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 2: know is the Arms Export Control Act. Accusations go back 441 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 2: to August of twenty twenty three. 442 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 3: According to the DOJ. 443 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 2: This guy conspired with foreign nationals and US persons to 444 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 2: provide combat aircraft training to pilots in the Chinese Air Force. 445 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 2: Bring on the death penalty. Bring on the death penalty. 446 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 2: Wipe my hands of it. That's all. Can't I forgive me. 447 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 2: I did not have this story as part of the show. 448 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 2: I came across the story. 449 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 3: As we're doing the show, and. 450 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 2: The trees and his stuff. I mean, other people might 451 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 2: be more professional than me and be able to handle 452 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 2: the conversation better. I just want to know when we 453 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 2: get to line up every member of the military with 454 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 2: a baseball bat so they can all take. 455 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 3: A freaking swing. 456 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 2: Don't ask me to be nice. I'm not interested in 457 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 2: being nice. Every single member of the military, every single 458 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 2: gold star family that's about to come because we trained 459 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 2: commis and the enemy on fighter tactics. I want them 460 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 2: to be able to get their swing. I have absolutely 461 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 2: no quarter for it at all, and I don't think 462 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 2: we're that different on that one. This is really ugly, 463 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 2: really ugly. You've got a statement from the Assistan Attorney 464 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 2: General for National Security. The United States Air Force trained 465 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 2: Major Brown to be an elite fighter pilot and trusted 466 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 2: him with the defense of our nation. He now stands 467 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 2: charged with training Chinese military pilots. So we agree it's treason, 468 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 2: right like you guys who may have been in the military. 469 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 2: Maybe there's a different term for this. How is it 470 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 2: not treason? Maybe my problem is I'm too narrowly focused here. 471 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 3: I can only think of it as one thing. Maybe 472 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 3: it has another name. 473 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 2: Nah, it's treason, and I think we should deal with 474 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 2: the traders appropriately. I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Kats Today. 475 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 2: Join me on Newsback this evening six thirty pm Eastern time. 476 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 3: I will be with Carl Higbee. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today. 477 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 2: Good to be with you, Good to be here. You 478 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 2: saw the video of this trucker. This guy is on 479 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 2: the roadway and he's going. 480 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 3: The wrong way. 481 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 2: He's driving into traffic as oppose driving with traffic. Turns 482 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:58,719 Speaker 2: out this guy with a Minnesota commercial driver's license. Turns 483 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 2: out this guy is from Somalia. Turns out that this 484 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 2: guy didn't have a proper driver's license and he failed 485 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 2: an English proficiency test. 486 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 3: This is the problem. 487 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 2: There is no other answer that could be given other 488 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 2: than we have to stop this from happening. And I'm 489 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 2: taking a look at the legislation that Center Jim Banks 490 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 2: has put forth. You've got commentaries that we heard on 491 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 2: this show just this week from Congresswoman Aaron Hounchin. 492 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 3: This has to emanate from the Midwest. 493 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 2: This is a Midwest story in that we have to 494 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 2: be the ones who drive the legislative changes to demand 495 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 2: that people who are in the country illegally and are 496 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 2: able to get commercial driver's licenses. 497 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 3: I want bmvs DMVs. We call it the BMV here 498 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 3: in Indiana. 499 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 2: I want them find and I want the directors of 500 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 2: those DMVs find personally. I want those state governments find 501 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 2: companies that hire people who they know to be in 502 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 2: the country illegally. I want them to lose their businesses. 503 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 2: The business is just gone. If you knowingly hire an 504 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 2: illegal immigrant, you're gone. And if you knowingly hire people 505 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 2: who can't read English. You don't get to run a 506 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,240 Speaker 2: business anymore. You can't get to run a trucking business. 507 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 2: You can never get the licensure again. And I'm not 508 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 2: a guy who favors licensure, but there is a real 509 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:53,879 Speaker 2: issue here about safety and security. Why in the world 510 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 2: would any nation think you have to live like this? 511 00:34:55,920 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 2: Allow me to be even more clear, screw them. I 512 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 2: don't care if they like it or not. I don't 513 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 2: care if people are angry or not. We're going to 514 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 2: protect American citizens. I don't care if the ill immigrant 515 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 2: has a job or not. I don't care if so 516 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 2: and so keeps their company or not not. 517 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 3: If they're going to endanger people on the road, screw them. 518 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 2: Find another country where you think you can get away 519 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:21,320 Speaker 2: with that crap. 520 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 3: We don't do it here. I don't care if your 521 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 3: kids go hungry. 522 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 2: You can't put other kids in danger so you can 523 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 2: have yourself a table full of food. No, find another 524 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 2: line of work. A lot of the people say this 525 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 2: is Tony Cots today.