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Speaker 1: Good afternoon to you.

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Speaker 2: My name is Jake Querry Eddie Garrison, the other voice

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Speaker 2: you hear on this program today. We call it Quarry

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Speaker 2: and Company. Here on ninety three five and one oh

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Speaker 2: seven five the Fan, Eddie, I will begin with you

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Speaker 2: your overall experience of the Super Bowl. You did enjoy,

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of people felt that way, and

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Speaker 3: It never felt like New England was in the game.

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Speaker 3: This is a big week for the pet Jake, A big,

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Speaker 1: It is.

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Speaker 2: It is our bet on the melt right now. But again,

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be close. It's gonna be close.

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Speaker 2: It's a really good idea on Friday, where we stand

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Speaker 1: Are we okay? And here, Eddie?

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Speaker 2: Do we know they're doing some work in the building?

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Speaker 2: I do like mushrooms on a pizza, yes, go to

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Speaker 2: And so as a result of that, what you are

441
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Speaker 2: seeing and what you have seen for the last five

442
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 2: to six to seven to ten years is different products,

443
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 2: whether it be marketed products, whether it be commercial products,

444
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 2: whether it be sports entities. Different places have had to

445
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 2: reach out use different vehicles to get eyeballs to their

446
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 2: brand that otherwise would not be there. Why do you

447
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 2: think it is that the Indianapolis Motor Speedway reaches out

448
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 2: to and has different people waving the green flag and

449
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 2: driving the pace car and doing things like that. Why

450
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 2: is it when I go to an IndyCar race in

451
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Speaker 2: Alabama they have Bo Jackson as the honorary starter or

452
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 2: Bart Starr as the honorary starter, or someone from American Idol?

453
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 2: Why is it when you watch a college football game?

454
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 2: All of that is to get people in that otherwise

455
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 2: would not. And so what you saw yesterday was the

456
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 2: NFL for the first time, going outside of its comfort

457
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 2: zone because of necessity of having to reach into a

458
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 2: demographic that it feels it never had and now may

459
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Speaker 2: never get because there is actually a threat outside of it.

460
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 2: And to me it was interesting. There was an interesting

461
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 2: aspect to it, and there was high energy on both shows.

462
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 2: It I get why people would watch both. It's cool.

463
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 2: I totally understand it. But as for why I thought

464
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 2: it was interesting that that was the why Indiana got

465
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Speaker 2: a big win yesterday. Did you say yay or nay?

466
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Speaker 2: Next guest Don Fisher, the voice of the Hoosiers, was

467
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 2: on the call for what was again Indiana fighting a

468
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Speaker 2: way to win. We will break that down and take

469
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Speaker 2: a look at what's next for Darren Devreeze group with

470
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Speaker 2: Don Fisher next.

471
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Speaker 1: Indiana and Oregon.

472
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 2: Next on the docket for the Hoosiers after a win

473
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Speaker 2: against Wisconsin that and again, that's the thing about this

474
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 2: team if you look at their last for that matter,

475
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 2: two of their last three games, finding ways to win.

476
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 2: And yes, you could sit here and nitpick all you

477
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 2: would like about putting yourself in position, especially in the

478
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 2: UCLA game, of kind of letting it get away from

479
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 2: you for a second, but in the end, finding ways

480
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 2: to win is what you want from your team. Don

481
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 2: Fisher was on the call as Indiana found that way

482
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 2: against Wisconsin Oregon tonight eight thirty tip and they will

483
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 2: honor the nineteen seventy six undefeated Hoosiers down.

484
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: I'll begin with this.

485
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,199
Speaker 2: One of those guys that you got to love when

486
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 2: he's on your team, and he probably would drive you

487
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 2: just crazy if he's on the other team. But I

488
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 2: think it's time for Indiana basketball fans, not that they

489
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 2: haven't already to start giving Connor inright his flowers, because

490
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:26,400
Speaker 2: he just finds ways to make plays and put himself

491
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 2: in the right spot late in games, and especially defensively,

492
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 2: he can do exactly that I thought he was really

493
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 2: good for Indiana down the stretch against Wisconsin.

494
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 1: Your overall thoughts on.

495
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 4: Him, well, I think he's.

496
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,360
Speaker 6: Played that way, Jake through much of the season. He

497
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 6: is one of those guys that could care what's about statistics.

498
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 6: He loves to play the game. He loves to win,

499
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 6: and that's the most important thing to him, and if

500
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 6: it's pretty or it's not pretty, he doesn't care. All

501
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 6: he cares about is winning number one and then number

502
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 6: two being a major pain in the butt to the

503
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 6: opponent because that's what he is. That's how hard he

504
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 6: plays at the defensive end of the floor. And of

505
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 6: course he tries to take charges, which you know he's

506
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 6: been able to do that several times here over the

507
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 6: last few ball games. He's just one of those guys

508
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 6: that you're absolutely one hundred percent right you hate him

509
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 6: if he's not on your team, or if he's yeah,

510
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 6: if he's not on your team.

511
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 4: If he's on your team, you love him.

512
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 2: Don Indiana obviously has been at their best, and this

513
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 2: is probably true of any team when I think we

514
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 2: know now, and I really from the very first time

515
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 2: I watched him play, I just really enjoyed Lamar Wilkerson

516
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 2: I just think he's he's a lightning and a bottle guy,

517
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 2: and he knows flat out of score. He's a smart player,

518
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 2: veteran player Tucker Devrees we know has the ability, especially

519
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 2: to shoot and to get himself baskets. But Indiana said

520
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 2: their best when they get a reliable third option there,

521
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 2: look like Nick Dorn might have been that way. He's

522
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 2: kind of come back down a little bit. And now

523
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 2: Sam alexis up there. Who is Indiana's I guess, most

524
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 2: consistent and reliable third option if you will, Well.

525
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 6: That's that's the question, because there's I mean, Nick Dorn

526
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 6: has been the most reliable here probably for the last

527
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 6: several weeks, and all of a sudden he's kind of

528
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 6: tapered off here in the last two ball games.

529
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 4: Now, I think part of that, and I'm not.

530
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 6: One hundred percent sure of this, because I don't know

531
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 6: who had the flu, but I think that a couple

532
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 6: of these guys have been dealing with the flu. In factly,

533
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 6: not just a couple, almost the entire team has had

534
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 6: to deal with it in some some way of dealing

535
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,959
Speaker 6: with it. But and it started really out in California.

536
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 6: They had guys out there that kind of got sick.

537
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 6: So the truth of the matter is, I think Dorn

538
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 6: was one of those. I think he's had the flu.

539
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 6: I think he's dealing with that. I think he probably

540
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 6: should have by now been over it. And he played

541
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 6: pretty hard in that ballgame night, but he just couldn't

542
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 6: make shots. And likewise, in the game against USC he

543
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 6: struggled to make shots. He hit a couple of threes

544
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 6: in that ballgame, but not the norm. And we've come

545
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 6: to expect him to hit four, maybe five, even six

546
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 6: three pointers in a ballgame because of how well he played.

547
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 4: There for a stretch of games about four or five.

548
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Speaker 6: So right now I would say that that Nick is

549
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 6: still the third guy.

550
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 4: There's no doubt in my mind.

551
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 6: He is one of the best shooters on this basketball team.

552
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 6: And you know, as far as other options are concerned,

553
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 6: ed Wright's even made them threes. In fact, shooting percentage

554
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 6: for three point land is about thirty five or thirty

555
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 6: six percent, and taking connorways capable too, So those guys

556
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 6: are all capable of hitting threes. But the third option

557
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 6: in my mind is Nick Gorin.

558
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 4: There's no question, and he just had a couple of

559
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 4: games where it didn't happen.

560
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Speaker 1: Don that illness bug.

561
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 2: Don Fisher, the voice of the Hoosiers, is our guest

562
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 2: Indiana and Oregon tonight. Don's on the job House Peel

563
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 2: and poor guest line taking. Conaway is one of those

564
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 2: that the illness bug hit, and he was not in

565
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 2: the Wisconsin game. Do we know yet or have you

566
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 2: been given any indication his potential availability tonight?

567
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 4: I have not been. I don't know anything about that

568
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 4: in that context. I really don't.

569
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 6: I mean, it's been he supposedly had the flu. Supposedly,

570
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 6: I mean he had the flu on Saturday. He was sick,

571
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 6: didn't even dress for the ballgame, wasn't there, so they

572
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 6: kept him away from everybody. And my assumption is that

573
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 6: you has a flu bug stopped after twenty four hours.

574
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 6: I don't know, and I'm not going to ask that question,

575
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 6: you know, any players. All he can tell you is

576
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 6: that he didn't have an ankle injury that started with

577
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 6: the well actually before the Rutgers ball game. So he's

578
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 6: not been available. He's not been a major factor here

579
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 6: in the last four or five ball games now, so

580
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 6: it'll be interesting to see if he comes back tonight

581
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 6: and if he's able to play at whatever level he's

582
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 6: able to play at, and obviously they need him because

583
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 6: that depth is something that really Indiana doesn't have very

584
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 6: much of.

585
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 2: Don when you look at teams that and you've seen

586
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 2: a lot of them, right, And I'm curious. You know,

587
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 2: we're still getting to know Darren Deries a little bit

588
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 2: and just his mannerisms, his coaching style. From your perspective

589
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 2: late in games, you know, it does feel like Indiana

590
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 2: late in games. And I know that the UCLA game

591
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 2: had got away from them, but then they had to

592
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 2: make big play after big play in the two overtimes

593
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 2: to win that ballgame, and and they did the same

594
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 2: against Wisconsin late in the game. What is the the

595
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 2: overall coaching demeanor of Darren Devrees late in games? Have

596
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 2: you been able to observe anything that maybe carries over

597
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 2: to his team or is this simply the byproduct of

598
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 2: guys that have played a lot of basketball, even maybe

599
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:47,959
Speaker 2: not if sowed together.

600
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 4: Well, I here's what.

601
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 6: I will tell you, Jake, as I saw this when

602
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 6: I went to San Juan, Puerto Rico with him in

603
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 6: the summertime. I just think he's a really good basketball coach.

604
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 6: I know, I think he knows exactly what he's looking for.

605
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 6: I think he knows how to go about recruiting players.

606
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 5: I know.

607
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 6: I think he knows what he's doing on the sidelines.

608
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 6: I'm just impressed with overall his coaching ability and the

609
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 6: fact that I don't he gets exercised like every coach

610
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 6: does in ball games with officials, maybe with his players

611
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 6: sometimes that kind of thing. But he doesn't go overboard

612
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 6: with anything, and I think he keeps his head about

613
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 6: him about as well as we've seen a coach.

614
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 4: In a while here in Indiana. I think he really

615
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 4: is smart. I think he gets it.

616
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,959
Speaker 6: So it's an overall picture for me as far as

617
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 6: Darren's concerned, because I just think he does things the

618
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 6: right way.

619
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 2: Don the Indiana nineteen seventy sixteen will be honored tonight

620
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 2: fifteenth anniversary, of course, coming up in March of their

621
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 2: win over Michigan at the Spectrum in Philadelphia. When you

622
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 2: look back on that season and for a lot I

623
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 2: think most people in Indiana know this, but you know

624
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 2: that team was undefeated in the regular season in seventy five,

625
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 2: Scott may bro his arm, they got beat by Kentucky

626
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 2: in I think over time in the Regionals, but to

627
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 2: come back the next season and to know of kind

628
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 2: of the expectation I'm sure of many of Hey, can

629
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 2: they now finish the job, which to you was more

630
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 2: impressive the thirty two and zero mark and being unblemished

631
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 2: or dealing with a pressure that had to be kind

632
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 2: of hanging around them from the very first outset of

633
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 2: that seventy six season, because this wasn't a team that

634
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 2: all of a sudden in February people went, wow, they're pretty.

635
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: Good, you know.

636
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 2: I mean, so can you speak to just kind of

637
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 2: how they dealt with that when you think back to that.

638
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 6: Season, Well, I guess the first thing I would say

639
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 6: is that going into that year they did not have

640
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 6: two really key pieces from the year before, Steve Green

641
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 6: and John Leskowski. Those two guys were integral in regard

642
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 6: to Indiana's thirty one and one season that led up

643
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 6: to that, And of course when Scott May got hurt.

644
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 6: He actually got hurt in the Purdue game toward the

645
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 6: end of the season that year, and they tried to

646
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 6: get him back in there during the Mid East Regional

647
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 6: to see if he could play against Kentucky, and obviously

648
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 6: he got out there and wasn't able to perform like

649
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 6: he normally does and they had to take him back

650
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 6: out of the ball game. But losing both Leskowsky and Green,

651
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 6: everybody wondered who was going to take those guys spots.

652
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 6: Last was always the guy that came off the bench

653
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 6: and gave him big minutes and big plays and really

654
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 6: smart basketball, And likewise, Steve Green was the same kind

655
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:33,240
Speaker 6: of player.

656
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 4: I would argue that the.

657
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 6: Next year, the question mark was who's going to replace

658
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 6: those guys?

659
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 4: Well.

660
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,280
Speaker 6: Tom Abernatty obviously came in as a starter and was terrific.

661
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 6: Of course, he played quite a bit his junior year

662
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 6: leading up to the thirty two and oho season as well,

663
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 6: but he was not the main guy coming off the bench,

664
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 6: and he just fit perfectly with what Bob Knight was

665
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 6: trying to do with that team in seventy six.

666
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 4: And then who was going to come off the bench.

667
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 6: And obviously they got really good play out of Jim

668
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 6: Wistman at times, they got a good play out of

669
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 6: Wayne Raptord at times. Jim Cruise, of course, was a

670
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 6: starter for a couple of years leading up to the

671
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 6: seventy five seventy six season, didn't start that year, but

672
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 6: came off the bench and was really a smart basketball

673
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 6: player and did all the right things and did make

674
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 6: a lot of mistakes that kind of stuff, So they

675
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 6: had solid play coming off the bench as well. And

676
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 6: I can honestly tell you, Jake, that I went into

677
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 6: every single basketball game in seventy six thinking Indiana was

678
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 6: going to win, and they did. And that doesn't mean

679
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 6: that I had anything to do with it. It just means

680
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,919
Speaker 6: that I was that confident. And I think I told

681
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 6: you this earlier about Signetti and about this Indiana football

682
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 6: team this year. I just go into every game thinking

683
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 6: they got a great chance of winning this ball game.

684
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 6: I don't think they're going to get beat. Yeah, And

685
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,439
Speaker 6: that's the way it turned out.

686
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 2: And you know, I was late to that party, but

687
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 2: by the end of it, I mean there's no doubt.

688
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 2: And from the football standpoint, you looked at every game

689
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 2: and you're like, well, they're not gonna make mistakes.

690
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: I know that much, right, you know.

691
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 2: The and don I'm sure when you were when you

692
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 2: were boarding the bus or the plane or whatever it

693
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 2: might have been in Philadelphia in nineteen seventy six, I'm

694
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 2: fairly certain that you sat back and you thought to yourself, well,

695
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 2: I'll bet you fifty years from now this still will

696
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 2: not be repeated by a college basketball team, and I'll

697
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 2: bet I'll still be on the mic for Indiana for

698
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 2: their undefeated football season.

699
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:32,439
Speaker 1: That's exactly what you said, right, Jake.

700
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 4: I didn't know I'd be around the next year.

701
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 2: Last season, well, listen, I mean you were the good

702
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 2: luck charm don They knew, they said, if we can

703
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 2: just keep this guy around, football's going undefeeded.

704
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,240
Speaker 1: Baby. That's exactly what happened.

705
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 4: Well, then why is it not the case of the

706
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 4: last twenty five? Does it again?

707
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 1: That's right.

708
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 4: I don't think I had a dagon thing to do

709
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 4: with it, Jay, Just so you know.

710
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 2: Well listen, obviously it'll be a fun night tonight Indiana

711
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 2: and Oregon honoring the seventy six team. And you know

712
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 2: Indiana's played themselves now on the right side of the

713
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 2: bubble for the NCAA tournament, non, I believe, And as

714
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 2: long as they stay the course, I think they've got

715
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 2: things going in the right direction, but still some pieces

716
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 2: to kind of reacclimate there. So we'll see what happens tonight.

717
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 2: Eight thirty tip for Indiana basketball. Don appreciate the time

718
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 2: as always.

719
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 4: Thanks for having me. Jacob appreciate it.

720
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 2: DoD Fisher, the voice of the Indiana Hoosiers on the

721
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 2: Java House Peel and Poor guest line. Okay, as for

722
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 2: last night in the Super Bowl and the Pacers as well,

723
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 2: one thing happened in the Pacers game we're still trying

724
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 2: to keep track up today, and that is Johnny Furfey's injury. Obviously,

725
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 2: he suffered an injury what looked to be to his knee.

726
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 2: There has been no specific indication as of the time

727
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 2: that we took the air today, Eddie and I believe

728
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 2: that is still the case.

729
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: Right. They were simply saying right leg injury.

730
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 3: They said right leg soreness. Yesterday they listed it as.

731
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 2: And so we'll wait to see. But they do have

732
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 2: new pieces coming to the Pacers. Eddie Gill will join

733
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 2: us one point thirty to talk about that. But there's

734
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 2: one thing, two things that happened in the Super Bowl

735
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:13,760
Speaker 2: that were awesome, awesome, and I'll explain what they were next.

736
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 2: So last night, Super Bowl sixty, I think most people

737
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 2: would agree it was it just lacked overall, right, I

738
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 2: mean literally, open disclaimer. I've always kind of liked the Seahawks.

739
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I've always mentioned that I'm not like some

740
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 2: diehard fan. I don't sit there and you know, follow

741
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,919
Speaker 2: their stuff in the offseason and what moves are making

742
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 2: whatever else. I just I've always liked their logo and

743
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 2: their color scheme, and their players. I you know, I mean,

744
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 2: they've got some fun players, but the game itself, it

745
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 2: just seemed to me. And folks can absolutely tell me

746
00:39:58,400 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 2: if I'm wrong here.

747
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 1: You included.

748
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is, and I don't mean

749
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 2: to labor the point, but I think I think the

750
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 2: world is just changing in general. And by that I mean,

751
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 2: you know, for years, you would when you were watching

752
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 2: television the week of the Super Bowl, there would be

753
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,760
Speaker 2: ads for your local grocery store of get your super

754
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 2: Bowl platter. They could never say, you're the big game,

755
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 2: get your platter for the big Game, get your you know,

756
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 2: your pizzas for the big game. On Sunday or the

757
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 2: big weekend, when you went into the grocery store, there

758
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 2: was a huge chip display in the shape of a football,

759
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 2: or they had cookie platters made with the logo of

760
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,720
Speaker 2: both teams that were going to be in the Super Bowl.

761
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 2: And like it just was everywhere in the American landscape

762
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 2: and culture, and as we talked about last week, I

763
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 2: just felt like there wasn't any of that this week.

764
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 2: But then I realized, I'm like, you know, we're not

765
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 2: watching network television like we were fifteen twenty years ago.

766
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 2: People are watching a million different streaming So I mean, I,

767
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 2: you know, most of the stuff I watched now streaming

768
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 2: commercial free, that kind of thing.

769
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 3: Well, let me ask you this, how much programming on

770
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 3: NBC are you taking in? I think this is a

771
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 3: big part of it, because I don't think NBC has

772
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 3: a lot of at least personally speaking, a lot of

773
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 3: programming that I am interested in in watching. So therefore

774
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 3: I didn't get all the same you know, promotions and

775
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 3: commercials leading right to the super Bowl as I would

776
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 3: if it was on Fox or if it was on CBN.

777
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is if it were even if

778
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 2: it were on those, no matter what channel it's on,

779
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 2: even if it was on a different network, if you

780
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 2: were watching Fox typically even though the super Bowl is

781
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 2: on NBC in most years, if you're watching The Simpsons

782
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 2: on Fox fifty nine, there is a commercial in there

783
00:41:55,920 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 2: for something based in Indianapolis, promoting their service they provide

784
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 2: to accentuate your Super Bowl experience, and I just didn't

785
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 2: feel like we.

786
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: Had that this year. I totally agree.

787
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 2: Part of it is also and I was a little

788
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 2: surprised it was on NBC because I'm like, wait a minute,

789
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 2: they have the Olympics going on, and it was funny

790
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 2: to me. I don't know if anybody else noticed this

791
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,919
Speaker 2: in years past. Typically it's a huge deal and there

792
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 2: are a billion commercials promoting what is going to be

793
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 2: following the Super Bowl. Now this year it's different because

794
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 2: it was the Olympics. But they literally were like, congratulations

795
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,720
Speaker 2: Seattle Seahawks, here's the trophy, and Kenneth Walker, here's the MVP.

796
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 2: And now here's Lindsey vonn Yeah, boom out.

797
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 3: That's how NBC does all of their even like their

798
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 3: Sunday night games, it's Mike Tarrico and Collinsworth, they do

799
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 3: their quick hit, Melissa Stark does the postgame interview with

800
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 3: the guts of the game, and then they get out

801
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 3: and all the postgame coverage moves to Peacock.

802
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

803
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 2: I get that the peacock thing as well. But here

804
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 2: were the two things that were fun. Now, Admittedly, when

805
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 2: we made our prediction for the Super Bowl, you said Seattle, correct.

806
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: Eddie, I did twenty eight ten.

807
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 2: I was so close, and I said that I thought

808
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 2: New England would win a game in the like twenty three,

809
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 2: twenty one. I think, I said because the only reason

810
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 2: I said that is because Seattle was such a resounding favorite,

811
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 2: and typically when that happens, sometimes the underdog sneaks in

812
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 2: and is able to hang around. I thought their defense

813
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 2: was not terrible, but Seattle was so disruptive to Drake

814
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,959
Speaker 2: May they just never got any footing. But now, as

815
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 2: for the coin toss at the beginning of the game,

816
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 2: at the end of the show on Friday, I did

817
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 2: predict this. Again. Reminder, they will call tales, it will

818
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 2: landheads winning team will defer and Patriots win. Okay, and

819
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 2: again I said Patriots win. But that's and here's what's funny.

820
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 2: And I sounded terrible on Friday. Do you notice, Eddie,

821
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 2: do you remember several years ago there was this online

822
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 2: phenomenon of a blue dress that people were debating whether

823
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,760
Speaker 2: it was blue, gold or green or whatever.

824
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 1: Is a blue dress or a gold dress, and it.

825
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 2: Depended on what people's eyes saw to determine what color

826
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 2: the dress was, and it was this huge ongoing debate forever. Okay,

827
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 2: it seemed to me like the coin toss was a

828
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 2: little bit of that because half the population hurt him

829
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 2: say heads, and half the population hurt him say tales.

830
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 2: Did you notice that if you if I said to you,

831
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,240
Speaker 2: he called heads, do you happen to have the audio

832
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 2: of the coin toss look on the X because people

833
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 2: were posting it yesterday. If you listen to the audio

834
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:39,479
Speaker 2: of the coin toss yesterday, it sounded if I said

835
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 2: to you, he calls heads, your ears can actually hear

836
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 2: it that way. Then you listen to it closer and

837
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 2: you're like, no, that's tails. But there were a lot

838
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 2: of people myself included, when Cooper Cup called called the

839
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 2: coin toss, that were like, he said heads, Why did

840
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 2: they say tails? Obviously, if you're standing right down there

841
00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 2: as the official is, you hear it and you can

842
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 2: see him saying it. But it was interesting because the

843
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 2: audio either way seemed to be that way.

844
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 1: But the the game itself once it started.

845
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 2: The other cool thing that happened was, I thought, personally,

846
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 2: and we saw this in the rose Bowl, I thought

847
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 2: they should have.

848
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: You were wrong on your prediction. What's that?

849
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 5: It was?

850
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 1: Heads? Tails was called?

851
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 2: No. I said they would call tails and it would

852
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 2: be heads.

853
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 5: Right.

854
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 2: Well, he played my prediction again again. Reminder my voice,

855
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 2: they will call tales. It will landheads winning team. Correct,

856
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,280
Speaker 2: that's right, I corrected myself. Here's the audio.

857
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: Tails is the choice. Okay, play that again, tails.

858
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:49,959
Speaker 4: Tail.

859
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,240
Speaker 3: It sounds like he says both, doesn't he It sounds

860
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 3: like he says hails.

861
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: It does He started to say heads and switched it.

862
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: Played again trails. But no, I predicted that they would

863
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: call tails head right.

864
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but either way.

865
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 3: My shirt memory was not on.

866
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: That's right.

867
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 2: I think personally that what they should have done is

868
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 2: like what they did in the Rose Bowl. In the

869
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 2: Rose Bowl when they named MVP and they gave it

870
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 2: to the starting center for for Indiana in commemoration of

871
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 2: their entire offensive line. They should have given the Seahawks

872
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 2: a defense. And I know not just because I said

873
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 2: a defensive player will be most valuable player, but the

874
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 2: Seahawks defense was the most valuable player in that game.

875
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: And yes, you can go with Jason Myers. I get

876
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: a kicker.

877
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 3: I pushed back on that he made zero important kicks

878
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 3: and of impressive links. I don't come that's fair chip shots,

879
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 3: but he he delivered more times in a Super Bowl

880
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 3: than any kicker in the history of the.

881
00:46:58,960 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 5: Game I have.

882
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 3: I mean, well, that's a story of the Seattle season.

883
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 2: Either way, it should have been the defense, but going

884
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 2: with a running back is cool. Question is when's the

885
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 2: last time that happened? Think about that in that big

886
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:15,240
Speaker 2: nogg and I'll give you the answer the other side. Okay, Eddie,

887
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 2: did you come up with the correct answer? Yes, I know,

888
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 2: the first running back Super Bowl MVP.

889
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 3: Since I know the answer, but I'm going to turn

890
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 3: the tables on you here, Jake. Okay, I don't want

891
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 3: to reveal the answer because we have two tickets for

892
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 3: somebody to go see Post Malone Jelly Roll this summer

893
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 3: to give away two pairs of tickets. The first two

894
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 3: people to text in with the correct answer they will

895
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 3: be the winners and have tickets to go see Jelly

896
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 3: Roll and Post Malone.

897
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:47,760
Speaker 1: Okay.

898
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 2: So, and by the way, somebody asked the last time

899
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 2: we did this on the text message. Somebody asked if

900
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 2: we ever declared the winner publicly.

901
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 5: Us.

902
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 3: No, I did not because I didn't have the winner

903
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:00,439
Speaker 3: information at the time.

904
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: Okay, this time we'll get that hopefully, So three p.

905
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 3: One seven, two nine, ten seventy text in the correct answer.

906
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 2: Who was the last running back to be the most

907
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 2: valuable player of the Super Bowl until yesterday? That is

908
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 2: the question dejure Eddie Gale gonna join us. Coming up

909
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 2: bottom of the hour, we'll get the latest, uh, not

910
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 2: only on the Johnny Furfey injury, but also just the

911
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:32,240
Speaker 2: Pacers in general. And I had mentioned when the trade

912
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 2: was announced for Zubats, I love it, I think, and

913
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 2: I as time has gone on here and I'm looking back.

914
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,919
Speaker 2: Sometimes you have a knee jerk reaction to things where

915
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 2: you're like, this is awesome. Then you look back and

916
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 2: you go, I don't know. The Sauce Gardner trade comes

917
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 2: to mind. I'll admit from the get go, I was like, yeah,

918
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 2: I'm not overly sold on this. He's a wonderful talent.

919
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 2: But he was a wonderful talent that helped New York

920
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 2: win two games, and they were willing to part with

921
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 2: him then and then you what you gave up is

922
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 2: the question for Indiana, and I watched again this weekend.

923
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:13,800
Speaker 2: You know some of the wings that are going to

924
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 2: be in the draft here. I watched Wilson play for

925
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 2: North Carolina. I saw Peterson for Kansas. The Bots I've

926
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 2: seen a fairmount for BYU.

927
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 1: Boozer. Obviously I saw.

928
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 2: The The point is this, If Indiana the Pacers end

929
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 2: up with a top four pick, then this trade, I

930
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 2: still say, is a grand slam. Now you're gonna have

931
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 2: to alter a little bit the way you play, and

932
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:55,240
Speaker 2: you have to alter the way you play because.

933
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 1: Of the fact that Zubot's as good as he is.

934
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 2: The one area, and we'll talk to Gil about this,

935
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 2: The one area to me that could be of question

936
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 2: is whether or not he takes up space that is

937
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 2: within too much the operating area of Pascal Siakam. You know,

938
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 2: all of you when you were kids, not all of you,

939
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 2: but if you were a kid and you had siblings

940
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 2: and you went on the family vacation, going on the

941
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 2: family vacation, you're driving to Florida, and by the way,

942
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 2: I know, it's wonderful. This is a I'm off now

943
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 2: on a personal opinion here, and people can text me

944
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 2: and tell me if they totally disagree with me, that's fine.

945
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 2: And I also understand that I was fortunate enough to

946
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 2: have a very idyllic childhood and one in which I

947
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 2: look on very favorably. And I'm well aware of the

948
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 2: fact and respect that not everybody unfortunately had that.

949
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: I get it.

950
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 2: But when I was a kid and we would take

951
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 2: family vacations, we always drove to Florida. I'm sure my

952
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 2: parents financially could have afforded to fly, but we drove.

953
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 2: And I have always said, you know, now that we're

954
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 2: at the age where my parents are aging, and you know,

955
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 2: my sisters and I we all have our.

956
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: Own families, whatever you want to say.

957
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 2: The thing that I look back on the most favorably

958
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 2: from those vacations was the drive in the cars because

959
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,800
Speaker 2: it was the five of us and my mom distributing

960
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,800
Speaker 2: TUTSI pops at the appropriate mile markers and playing games

961
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 2: in the car and passing time. But it was just

962
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 2: the five of us, and that had as much to

963
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 2: do with the family bond as anything I experienced.

964
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 1: But I digress.

965
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 2: When you did that, Even with all of that said,

966
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 2: when you're really little, you had that space in the

967
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 2: back seat with your siblings where you had an imaginary

968
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,359
Speaker 2: line or even if your parents were creative a piece

969
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:08,800
Speaker 2: of like masking tape, and you're like, no, this is

970
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,760
Speaker 2: my spot on the back seat, Like you cannot, mom,

971
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 2: Megan's got her left arm in my space. Kids, you

972
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 2: settle out, we'll turn around the car. We won't go

973
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 2: on vacation this year. All that right, But you had

974
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 2: your space in the back seat. And Pascal Siakram for

975
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 2: the pacers, when it comes to the low block of

976
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:29,720
Speaker 2: the baseline, kind of has his space, starts on one block,

977
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 2: curls his way into the lane, makes one move and

978
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 2: that determines whether he's going to go in and lay

979
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 2: it in off the glass or whether he's going to

980
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:39,959
Speaker 2: spin fade away.

981
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 1: And Zubats is going to have to learn.

982
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 2: That that space belongs to Pascal Siakam and make sure

983
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 2: that he is not clogging that space. That's going to

984
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 2: take some acclamation, and that's probably what this year is for.

985
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 2: You know, do you in terms of and then you

986
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 2: have the added wrinkle of offensively speaking, if Zubats is

987
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 2: not somebody that is going to be trailing and start

988
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 2: up and the high post and the ball comes up

989
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 2: to him and he turns around and then he picks

990
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 2: and facilitates where that weave begins, like Miles Turner did

991
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 2: for so long. If he's not going to be that player,

992
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 2: then you've got to work on and figure out the

993
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 2: timing of his work with Tyre's Halliburton on pick and

994
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 2: rolls and on the low post and lobs in particular,

995
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,399
Speaker 2: and that doesn't come, of course, until Halliburton's on the floor.

996
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 2: So that's the other aspect of it. But the key

997
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 2: point is this for Indiana, the Pacers right now, with

998
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 2: their draft pick being protected as one through four or

999
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 2: ten and beyond, that means that if on the draft

1000
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 2: lottery in May, the ping pong balls pop up that

1001
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 2: Indiana is drafting fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth, or ninth, that

1002
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 2: trade goes to the Clippers. One through four is protected,

1003
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 2: and Indiana absolutely knows the importance of the There's a

1004
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 2: reason they protected those because in a perfect world, you

1005
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,320
Speaker 2: knew when Miles Turner left.

1006
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 1: You knew then that his departure.

1007
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 2: Meant that you needed to go out and get a center,

1008
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 2: and you knew that to get a starting center who

1009
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 2: has experience in the NBA, that that meant you were

1010
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 2: going to have to give up something to get a

1011
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 2: player of a starting center quality, and they got that,

1012
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 2: and the player they gave up was Ben Matherin and

1013
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:50,800
Speaker 2: Isaiah Jackson as well. I realize, but in giving up Mathern,

1014
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 2: you then created the second void. You created the second

1015
00:54:55,600 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 2: area of need, a scoring threat off the bench who

1016
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 2: could play spot minutes in the starting spot as well

1017
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 2: as Matheren has done. And they knew going into it

1018
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 2: that the realistic avenue that they would take to get

1019
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:16,320
Speaker 2: that player would be the draft. And now it comes

1020
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 2: down to getting those four picks and if they and

1021
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 2: their roster is good enough for next year that if

1022
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 2: they end up drafting ten through whatever, they might still

1023
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 2: get a player that's of some need to them.

1024
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 3: Or Jake, they could trade that pick still correct and

1025
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 3: get a player that fits whatever they need. Because I

1026
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 3: was listening to Tony's podcast last week and he did

1027
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 3: make mention that it's not a terrible idea either if

1028
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 3: the Pacers lose their pick, because it gives them more

1029
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 3: flexibility with trading future picks, because if they keep the

1030
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 3: pick this year, they can only trade their twenty twenty

1031
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 3: seven pick, and you'd have to wait a little while

1032
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:07,720
Speaker 3: before they can trade their next one. That you can't

1033
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 3: trade picks and consecutive drafts for the NBA rules.

1034
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: So you're said, okay, if so you could not trade

1035
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 1: first round picks?

1036
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 5: Right?

1037
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 2: Yes, since the did they trade their first round? Who

1038
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:24,879
Speaker 2: did they take last year? They traded traded? They traded

1039
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 2: their first round pick last year, so they could not

1040
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 2: trade this year's first round?

1041
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:28,439
Speaker 5: Or again?

1042
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 1: Right?

1043
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 2: Well, no, they already traded this year's first round. I'd

1044
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 2: have to look at that.

1045
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 1: They already traded this year's and they traded back for it.

1046
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 3: They did.

1047
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm here to tell you though, they if

1048
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 2: the Pacers land and pick one through four, they're using

1049
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 2: that pick.

1050
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 3: That's why you put the protection on there.

1051
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 2: Correct now the other thing, but I want to talk

1052
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 2: to Eddie Gill about that. He comes up bottom of

1053
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 2: the hour.

1054
00:56:58,320 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 3: I also have a thought, by the way, on the

1055
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 3: uh the pairing of Sam and Zubots as you were

1056
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 3: talking about there, like being on the post, Jake, I

1057
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 3: actually think this can help him because currently the Pacers,

1058
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 3: and with Miles Turner, neither Turner or any of their

1059
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 3: sinners they currently have were big post up guys, and

1060
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 3: you didn't have to worry about them as much on

1061
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 3: the post so it was a lot easier to double team.

1062
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 3: And now if you have Zubots on the opposite poster,

1063
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 3: you have them at the high post. Teams have to

1064
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 3: make their decision. Am I going to go double and

1065
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna leave either A a shooter open or B. If

1066
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 3: you're helping off of Zubots with whoever's defending him, all

1067
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 3: Siakam has to do is pass it to Zubots on

1068
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 3: a cutch to the basket. You got an easy dunker

1069
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 3: and see layup. So I think this is going to

1070
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 3: help Siakim in that post post up game a little bit.

1071
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 3: I don't think it's going to negatively impact him.

1072
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you got to keep him fluid. I agree,

1073
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

1074
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 3: Agreement.

1075
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 2: That's that's the big thing. You got keep him fluid.

1076
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 2: But but that's what you know. This year is again

1077
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 2: it's an acclimation period for Zubots and figuring out how

1078
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 2: he plays and getting HM acclimated to that, and then

1079
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 2: also realistically trying to strategically stay within bounds of those

1080
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 2: top four picks or if you get to the point

1081
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 2: where all of a sudden you get on a heater

1082
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 2: and you get out of it then you're chasing trying

1083
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 2: to make sure that you are getting away from five

1084
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 2: through nine and into ten.

1085
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 1: But that remains to be seen. Other thing and I.

1086
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 2: Mentioned it off the top that I thought was interesting yesterday,

1087
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 2: and I'm going to repeat what I said earlier as

1088
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 2: a younger person, probably more just you know, waste and

1089
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 2: vinegar to paraphrase the term. When I was younger, I

1090
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 2: was arrogant enough and naive enough to think that in

1091
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 2: doing sports talk radio that opining and getting into discussion

1092
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 2: and debate when it came to politics or scruples or

1093
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 2: principles or culture on the radio during a sports show

1094
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 2: was going to change people's minds, and that it was

1095
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 2: this great responsibility. Now, don't get me wrong, I do

1096
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 2: think that when you have the platform, that we are afforded,

1097
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 2: and I want to make clear I'm well aware of

1098
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 2: the fact that I'm.

1099
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 1: Afforded the platform.

1100
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 2: I don't own it, and I'm also well aware of

1101
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 2: the fact that there are probably a lot of people

1102
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 2: that like me, not because of me, but because of

1103
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 2: the platform. I get all of that, and I understand

1104
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 2: the responsibility that comes with it and the inevitable conclusion

1105
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 2: that someday will come with it. I understand all of that.

1106
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 2: I do think that with that platform there are times

1107
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 2: and there are topics that are responsible for us to

1108
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 2: bring into the limelight for people that are listening. But

1109
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 2: it would be naive of me and arrogant of me

1110
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 2: to think that telling people how they should think or

1111
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 2: process things is the way to go about it. Because

1112
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 2: you're all adults, you're all smart people. I can introduce

1113
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 2: different things to make you think, but it would be

1114
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 2: I've seen what happens when radio hosts suddenly like to

1115
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 2: talk about how their word is the only word and

1116
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 2: everyone else but them is a moron or uneducated or

1117
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 2: whatever else. I've seen how that works out right. There's

1118
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 2: a reason I don't have to get up at five

1119
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 2: point thirty in the morning anymore. But having said all that,

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Speaker 2: I totally understand during the halftime show last night, which

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01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 2: was a huge topic of the Super Bowl, and with

1122
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 2: that super Bowl with not a lot of excitement in

1123
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 2: the game itself really well sound defensive game for Seattle,

1124
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 2: but it wasn't an overly exciting or sexy super Bowl.

1125
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 2: And I've heard very little conversation about the commercials, which

1126
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 2: is interesting. You know, usually people the next day are like, oh, man,

1127
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 2: rank your favorite Super Bowl commercials or go online and

1128
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 2: see your favorite. I heard very little discussion about them,

1129
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 2: A lot of the pomp and circumstance that goes into

1130
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 2: the NFL in the halftime show, all right, excuse me,

1131
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 2: and the accentuation of that. Aside from the halftime show,

1132
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 2: I didn't hear a lot of talk about and I

1133
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 2: totally understand and respect if people wanted to see other

1134
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 2: options at halftime other than the halftime show because it

1135
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 2: was an artist with which they were unfamiliar or didn't

1136
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 2: like or whatever.

1137
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 1: Fine.

1138
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 2: You know, for years, people would turn over to watch

1139
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 2: the Puppy Bowl, which I watched a little of yesterday.

1140
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 1: It was cool.

1141
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:31,439
Speaker 2: I felt bad for the dogs. They were all rescue dogs.

1142
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 2: I think probably all of them got adopted.

1143
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 3: I think there was one from Indiana, was there?

1144
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 1: I think so?

1145
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 2: But the you know, so for years people would or

1146
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 2: the Bud Line, remember the Bud Bull. People would turn

1147
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 2: over to watch the Bud Bowl at halftime. You know,

1148
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 2: nobody got on you about that. So if people wanted

1149
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 2: to watch an alternate form of music or entertainment that

1150
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 2: was more to their liking or their taste cool, that's fine.

1151
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 2: What I thought was interesting was this. This to me

1152
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:05,919
Speaker 2: seemed to be the first time that the NFL did

1153
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 2: something that other leagues have done for a long time.

1154
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 1: Why do you.

1155
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 2: If IndyCar is racing in Long Beach, why does IndyCar

1156
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 2: take a driver and have them throw out the first

1157
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 2: pitch of the Dodger game. It's because they are hoping

1158
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 2: that that means that people that are Dodgers fans that

1159
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 2: otherwise don't know about the Long Beach Race suddenly become

1160
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:37,479
Speaker 2: aware of it. Why does the Indianapolis five hundred bring

1161
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 2: in Lance Armstrong or Jack Nicholson or any other such

1162
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 2: people to wave the green flag. It's because it's in

1163
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 2: hope that seeing someone that people relate to that otherwise

1164
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 2: are unaware of the Indianapolis five hundred. You are using

1165
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 2: those things as a vehicle to introduce yourself to a

1166
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 2: newer audience. And you see it across in all areas

1167
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 2: of sport. But the one area where you never really

1168
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 2: needed or saw a desire by the league to have

1169
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 2: to introduce itself to a new demographic was the NFL.

1170
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 2: Because the NFL has been the eight hundred pound guerilla forever,

1171
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 2: and the NFL really has been the trend center, and

1172
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 2: their numbers dictate they still are. I know several years

1173
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 2: ago there were a lot of people that said they

1174
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 2: were going to boycott the NFL, But the NFL now

1175
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 2: did twenty three of the top twenty five rated programs

1176
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 2: on television in twenty twenty five. But some of those

1177
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 2: numbers are a little askew because we'd no longer live

1178
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 2: in a monoculture, and a monoculture meaning everyone getting their

1179
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 2: cultural stimulation from the same places. It's not nineteen eighty five.

1180
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 2: It's not nineteen ninety five where you had three major

1181
01:03:56,760 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 2: channels and then fifteen cable channels and ten radio stations.

1182
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 2: I'm well aware everyone at this station is well aware

1183
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 2: that there are a number of places that you can

1184
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 2: listen to your music, you can listen to your podcast,

1185
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 2: you can listen to any number of things. I appreciate

1186
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 2: that people give their time to listen to this show,

1187
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 2: but there are so many different avenues and areas where

1188
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 2: people can consume their entertainment now that they can custom

1189
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 2: make and witness things to what they like without having

1190
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 2: to be introduced to things outside their area or their

1191
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 2: comfort zone. We saw it last night. But what I

1192
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 2: saw and a halftime show, was an incredible theatrical performance.

1193
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 2: And by that I mean the production quality, the special

1194
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 2: effects that the background dancers, you know, the themes of

1195
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 2: what was going on about the importance of family structure

1196
01:04:57,040 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 2: within the Puerto Rican culture and community, and the importance

1197
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 2: of Puerto Rican belief as being part of and the

1198
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:09,479
Speaker 2: blessing they have in being part of America and their

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01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 2: pride in being part of America. That's what I saw

1200
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 2: in that. Now, maybe I'm wrong, I didn't know the

1201
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 2: lyrics right. But more importantly, what I saw was this.

1202
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 2: It was the first time that I saw the NFL

1203
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 2: admitting that they needed to use a vehicle to tap

1204
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 2: into a demographic that they have not yet controlled. And

1205
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 2: that demographic of and I've been hearing since nineteen Soccer's

1206
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 2: been the sport of the future since nineteen seventy eight,

1207
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 2: and I always rolled my eyes at it because, as

1208
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 2: I said, it was the biggest participation sport for young

1209
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 2: people for many years in this country. Because it was

1210
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 2: the sport that if your child was not overly athletic

1211
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 2: or was stage fright, you know, shy of things, you

1212
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:57,439
Speaker 2: didn't have to get in the batter's box, you didn't

1213
01:05:57,440 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 2: have to get in the free throw line, you didn't

1214
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 2: run the risk of serious injury. Your child could learn

1215
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 2: the importance of teamwork and work ethic and weekly practice

1216
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 2: for an event by playing soccer, and then on the

1217
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 2: field itself could run around and get their exercise without

1218
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:15,439
Speaker 2: really ever having the spotlight shine on them and their

1219
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 2: lack of athleticism being illuminated to the masses. So it

1220
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 2: was a safe place for people to have their kids play,

1221
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 2: and kids enjoyed it. And then they got to fifth, sixth,

1222
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 2: seventh grade and they got introduced to baseball, basketball, football, tennis,

1223
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 2: whatever it might be, and they went elsewhere. But for

1224
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 2: the last fifteen years or so, maybe a little bit more,

1225
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 2: more and more of those kids now are opting to

1226
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 2: stay with soccer, and as a result, they are opting

1227
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 2: to not follow the Green Bay Packers or the Denver

1228
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 2: Broncos or the San Francisco forty nine ers, but rather

1229
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 2: to follow Man City or Liverpool or Real Madrid, and

1230
01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 2: those are becoming their favorite teams. And so therefore even

1231
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 2: young kids in Latin America or in that culture, while

1232
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 2: at one time they had no choice but to eventually

1233
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 2: assimilate towards watching the Super Bowl in the NFL because

1234
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:17,400
Speaker 2: that was the dominant thing in American culture. There are

1235
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 2: now enough options from a viewing and participating standpoint where

1236
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 2: those people are being weaned off of the necessity for

1237
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 2: the NFL in the fifteen to thirty five year old demographic.

1238
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 1: And so what do you do.

1239
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:34,440
Speaker 2: But you find the biggest pop culture icon within that

1240
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 2: demographic and you put that one on the halftime show. Yes,

1241
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 2: it would have been very cool to see Metallica in

1242
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 2: San Francisco playing the halftime show, or Journey or if

1243
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 2: he was still performing, Huey Lewis. They're all natives of

1244
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 2: that area. But ninety eight percent of people that listen

1245
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 2: to their music also their other big interest is the

1246
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 2: National Football League. They took the most downloaded performer in

1247
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 2: the world, who has fifty one million followers on social

1248
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 2: media platforms and put that individual there because ninety eight

1249
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 2: percent of the people listening to his music are not

1250
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 2: those that are watching the NFL, and they had to

1251
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:22,680
Speaker 2: introduce themselves to a new demographic. And to me, I

1252
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 2: would like to think that the NFL at this point

1253
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 2: has reached the same maturity I have of You're not

1254
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 2: going to influence people in their thought. You're not going

1255
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 2: to You are not bigger than one's own individual intellect

1256
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 2: and ability to decipher what's best for them. You simply

1257
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:44,200
Speaker 2: need to provide something entertaining and hope that that means

1258
01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:48,439
Speaker 2: people then as the vehicle see everything else that is

1259
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 2: on the pie itself, and they enjoy the pie instead

1260
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:54,800
Speaker 2: of just the topping on it and say, I like

1261
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 2: all of that. And now you've introduced yourself to a

1262
01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 2: demographic that otherwise is partaking in something that is one

1263
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 2: of the albeit very small, but a small threat to

1264
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:08,920
Speaker 2: the continuation of your culture as the eight hundred pound

1265
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 2: guerilla in American sport. And that's what I saw as

1266
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 2: opposed to the device of politics that I understand a

1267
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:19,320
Speaker 2: lot of people saw that as That's how I interpreted

1268
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:22,639
Speaker 2: what happens with the Pacers now was Zubats and the

1269
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 2: acclamation period. Eddie Gill played point guard NBA also on

1270
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 2: the television broadcast for the Pacers joins us next Eddie

1271
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 2: Gill of course point guard extraordinary for the Pacers. Now

1272
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 2: you say Weber State or Weber State, Weber It's Chris Weber,

1273
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 2: Weber State, right.

1274
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 1: Yes, that much, we know. Yeah.

1275
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 2: But Eddie Gill obviously on the television broadcast fan Duel

1276
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 2: Sports Network.

1277
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:52,479
Speaker 1: I know this, Jake.

1278
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 3: But he holds the record for people with steals at

1279
01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:59,639
Speaker 3: Weber State with just four years of eligibility. Really, none

1280
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 3: of the co OVID.

1281
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 1: Year crap, none of the nine year players the record.

1282
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:05,920
Speaker 3: See four years we were stayed Boom, you're steels leader

1283
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 3: all time in program history. Eddie Gill.

1284
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:11,799
Speaker 2: Not only that, Eddie Gail a huge fan of using QR.

1285
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:14,679
Speaker 2: Did you know that, Eddie, No, he speaks in code.

1286
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 5: He might have he might have gone too far with that,

1287
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:21,800
Speaker 5: but thank you. But but another fun, fun fact, I

1288
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 5: was there for only two years, So there's that.

1289
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:24,639
Speaker 3: Oh that's right.

1290
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 1: Wow. And you said you have the record in two years.

1291
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 5: Well, actually so Dylan Jones, who actually I think is

1292
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 5: with the Knicks now. He was he got drafted by Okay, see,

1293
01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 5: he was at Weaver State. He was there for all

1294
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:41,559
Speaker 5: four and and like with two games left in the season,

1295
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 5: I think his senior year he broke he broke my record.

1296
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 5: So technically he has the record. But he was there

1297
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 5: for four I was there for two but yeah, I

1298
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 5: mean I got it, you know what.

1299
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 2: Never mind the details that that has to come with

1300
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:54,600
Speaker 2: an asterisk on it, right, which which a lot of

1301
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 2: people would call a code kind of like QR Eddie. Okay, Eddie,

1302
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 2: I want to ask you this, Eddie. So you played

1303
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 2: as a point guard position, though I'm curious when you

1304
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 2: look now at Zubots and I appreciate your perspective here

1305
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 2: because this is what I wanted to talk to you about.

1306
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 2: There is going to be so much that is made of,

1307
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 2: you know, with Zubots here and then Tyrese Halliburton and

1308
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:20,840
Speaker 2: trying to get that same sort of symmetry that you

1309
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 2: saw with above the rim style play that Halliburton can

1310
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 2: do and facilitate for so many people. When you are

1311
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 2: a point guard and guys need to be in certain

1312
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 2: areas because I worry about Siakam's spacing on the floor

1313
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 2: and whether or not some of that's going to be clogged.

1314
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:39,479
Speaker 2: How much of the job is it of the point

1315
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:43,759
Speaker 2: guard to kind of direct people and or get people

1316
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:46,800
Speaker 2: in their right operating areas when you're setting things up?

1317
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:48,480
Speaker 1: Does that make sense what I'm asking.

1318
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 5: It makes perfect sense. And having played the position I

1319
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 5: put probably ninety five percent of the onus on the

1320
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:59,760
Speaker 5: point guard to organize out there. I think that's you know,

1321
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:03,360
Speaker 5: the infamous or not say infamous, But you know, I

1322
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:05,920
Speaker 5: don't use it as much because we're in this whole

1323
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 5: age of quote unquote positions with basketball, which I think

1324
01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:10,960
Speaker 5: is a little bit overused because as we you know,

1325
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 5: as you know, point guards are valuable, and certain positions

1326
01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 5: are and such. But it's gonna be a different game.

1327
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:19,639
Speaker 5: I think, you know, Tyres and whoever the point guard

1328
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 5: is on any team, they have an innate responsibility of

1329
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 5: being able to organize and put your team in position

1330
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 5: to be successful, because you know, when you're in that arena,

1331
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:30,679
Speaker 5: it's not like you're in the middle school gym where

1332
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:32,400
Speaker 5: the coach can call every single set and you can

1333
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:34,519
Speaker 5: hear every single thing. That those guys got to be

1334
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 5: able to communicate with each other out there, and the

1335
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:40,639
Speaker 5: point guard has got to do the best job of organizing.

1336
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 5: And it'll look different than what you you know, everyone

1337
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 5: thinks it'll you know, may think it looks like what's

1338
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:48,320
Speaker 5: gonna look like last year. It won't because he's a

1339
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:51,240
Speaker 5: different player than Turner. He's a different player than in Pascal.

1340
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 5: He's a different player than Obi Topping. You know, all

1341
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 5: these guys that the tyres or whoever else at the

1342
01:12:57,960 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 5: point is running ball.

1343
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:01,200
Speaker 1: Strange with, you know, and you look at Eddie.

1344
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:02,639
Speaker 2: I'm going to go back to when you were playing

1345
01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:06,759
Speaker 2: for the Pacers, so you had, amongst others, but among

1346
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:10,919
Speaker 2: the sinners that you played with, David Harrison, Scott Pollard,

1347
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 2: Jeff Foster. Now those are three. Pollard and Harrison are

1348
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:17,640
Speaker 2: pretty similar just in their size and but you know

1349
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:20,920
Speaker 2: Foster was a more springy sprint guy, if you will,

1350
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 2: Did you have to adjust your game depending on which

1351
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 2: one was on the floor with you?

1352
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:28,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely.

1353
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 5: You have to place the restraints and weaknesses of your

1354
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:35,120
Speaker 5: team right and the whole thing with KYP. Know your

1355
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 5: personnel and how do.

1356
01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 2: You put them in the position now that you are

1357
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 2: KYP there, know your personality. That sounds like you're speaking

1358
01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:45,160
Speaker 2: in QR code right there. So so when you say that, Kyp,

1359
01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 2: if you want to be extra hit Betty, because you're

1360
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 2: a hip guy, you can then say q R just

1361
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:51,639
Speaker 2: to let people up anyway, as you were, I.

1362
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 5: Need someone to let me know when this one this,

1363
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:54,440
Speaker 5: when this saves the black.

1364
01:13:58,360 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 4: But you're going to keep trying.

1365
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 2: I appreciate it that it might and it.

1366
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 5: Just might catch on. I mean six seven is out there,

1367
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 5: so you know.

1368
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 2: So I mean this is a new the six seven.

1369
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:08,559
Speaker 2: So last year, this is the new thing.

1370
01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 4: Right, But we digress.

1371
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:14,360
Speaker 5: But uh that team you referenced, are you know my

1372
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 5: job when I got out there on the floor, especially

1373
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:17,559
Speaker 5: if Jermaine was on the floor, he needed to test

1374
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:17,840
Speaker 5: the ball.

1375
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:20,479
Speaker 4: Uh, So we ran a lot through Jermaine.

1376
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 5: But you know, as it became to like d h

1377
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 5: or Jeff or Scott's you know, we're we're running ball screen,

1378
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 5: a lot of picking, roll rolling, replace actions with those guys.

1379
01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:33,639
Speaker 5: You know, that was the day and age where we're

1380
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:36,120
Speaker 5: big guys were shooting fifteen to seventeen footers and not

1381
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 5: twenty three to twenty six footers. So so it's obviously

1382
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 5: a different game. But yeah, you absolutely need to know,

1383
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:47,080
Speaker 5: you know your team's strong suits and what they do best?

1384
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:48,679
Speaker 5: Are they do they Are they good? Can they catch

1385
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:50,240
Speaker 5: the ball? Can they catch a bounce fast? Do they

1386
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:51,479
Speaker 5: need to? You know, it has to hit him in

1387
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:53,639
Speaker 5: a chant every single time otherwise it's gonna be a turnover.

1388
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 5: Just all the nuances of the game that most people

1389
01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 5: probably don't think about.

1390
01:14:58,840 --> 01:14:59,919
Speaker 1: Do you like the trade?

1391
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:04,879
Speaker 5: I do, Yeah, I think it's it's you know, obviously

1392
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 5: that position has been experimental to some degree. No disrespect

1393
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:09,800
Speaker 5: to the guys who've flated this year, because I think

1394
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:12,559
Speaker 5: all of them have have done positive things at different

1395
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 5: moments and throughout the season, but clearly it was a

1396
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 5: move to try to solidify the center position. Zoobox is

1397
01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:21,760
Speaker 5: a big time rebounder. Has been a place of deficiency

1398
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:23,720
Speaker 5: for the patients for quite some time. Even as great

1399
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 5: as they were last year, rebounding has been a concern

1400
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 5: for some time. So he's going to help in that capacity.

1401
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 5: You know, he's the guy that you get extra possessions

1402
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 5: he does. He does a lot of things that necessarily

1403
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:37,120
Speaker 5: don't get into a stash sheet. Although he's you know,

1404
01:15:37,160 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 5: he's a guy who averages a double double, but you know,

1405
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 5: he's small things like setting screens. For example, you reference

1406
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:46,840
Speaker 5: Tyrus Haliburton and him being able to create in space.

1407
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:49,560
Speaker 5: If that guy sets the screen for you, Tyree is

1408
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 5: going to be able to come off and do his thing.

1409
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:53,800
Speaker 5: Andrew Nempard, TJ McConnell, who's ever at the point they're

1410
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 5: going to have some more space, and then that just

1411
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:57,680
Speaker 5: makes everybody on the floor better because now they have

1412
01:15:57,720 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 5: more open opportunities.

1413
01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 2: Benedict mad and Eddie obviously on his way to Los Angeles. Now,

1414
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:08,160
Speaker 2: now the thought would be that the Pacers get one

1415
01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:10,120
Speaker 2: of those top four picks, and that's what I've said

1416
01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:11,960
Speaker 2: that this trade then to me, goes from a home

1417
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 2: run to a Grand Slam.

1418
01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:14,559
Speaker 1: If you can get you.

1419
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 2: Know, whether it be Boozer, Peterson, de Bonsa, you know, Wilson,

1420
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:21,000
Speaker 2: any of those four guys to take over that role,

1421
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 2: then I think this is a huge trade. But if

1422
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:26,240
Speaker 2: they are not able to get that, if they fall

1423
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:30,640
Speaker 2: outside that top four and they lose their first round pick, uh,

1424
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 2: who do you see getting or logging the minutes that

1425
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:36,680
Speaker 2: would have would have been Benedict Matherens next year?

1426
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:38,280
Speaker 1: Where do they fill that void?

1427
01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 5: Well, then you're looking at potentially going back to the

1428
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:46,320
Speaker 5: lineup that you had, you know, last last season, really

1429
01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 5: with nem mart at the two and Nie Smith at

1430
01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 5: the three potentially you know passed out of the four

1431
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:55,599
Speaker 5: and Zubat at the five. Is what seems to be

1432
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:58,639
Speaker 5: what might be the lineup now. Now who that's all things,

1433
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:01,280
Speaker 5: you know, considering that nothing happened to the summertime outside

1434
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:04,800
Speaker 5: of the draft, but I would foresee that them going

1435
01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:05,799
Speaker 5: back to that type of lineup.

1436
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 2: And then obviously the guy Eddie Crazy to say this,

1437
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 2: I'm not going to say that we forget about and

1438
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 2: you referenced him earlier, but one of the things I

1439
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 2: think people do forget about this year without Halliburton being

1440
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:20,360
Speaker 2: out there, and with nim Hard and Nie Smith missing

1441
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 2: significant time, Opie toppins a really important piece, right and

1442
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:29,680
Speaker 2: assuming he comes back with the same level of you know,

1443
01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 2: maneuverability that he had before, he is a guy that

1444
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 2: can kind of be your instant offense off bench guy again.

1445
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:36,760
Speaker 1: Right.

1446
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:38,080
Speaker 4: Oh, there's no.

1447
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 5: Question about it. And I think I would caution everybody

1448
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:43,120
Speaker 5: to proceed with a little bit of hesitency in terms

1449
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:44,560
Speaker 5: of thinking that all of a sudden you're gonna be

1450
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:47,200
Speaker 5: back in the finals because you've got Zubats, who I

1451
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 5: really like as a player. But you know, so many

1452
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:51,240
Speaker 5: things have to go right for you to get to

1453
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:55,320
Speaker 5: that type of level of play. So I think definitely

1454
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:57,599
Speaker 5: be a very competitive team. I thought this year's team

1455
01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:00,640
Speaker 5: would be very competitive. Obviously derail than go into a

1456
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:03,920
Speaker 5: tailspin with injuries early on in the season, but I

1457
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:07,360
Speaker 5: was still you know, preceived with caution, and you reference Obie.

1458
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 5: This is a team that relies on eight, nine, ten

1459
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:13,960
Speaker 5: guys to be productive on a nightly basis when at

1460
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 5: full strength. So you know, Obi Tipen certainly is a

1461
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 5: critical piece of that coming off with what he was

1462
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:20,720
Speaker 5: able to do coming off the bench, the energy that

1463
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:24,200
Speaker 5: he played with. Sometimes he was in closing lineups where

1464
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:26,519
Speaker 5: Ricardo decided to go small and he would be at

1465
01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 5: the five and Pascal's at the four, and they would

1466
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:30,800
Speaker 5: just run people out of the gym and late late

1467
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:32,160
Speaker 5: in the game with him on the floor.

1468
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:35,559
Speaker 4: So he his game has definitely taken another step.

1469
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:37,680
Speaker 5: Hopefully he makes a full recovery and is able to

1470
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:41,000
Speaker 5: come back with that same athleticism and explosion that he

1471
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:43,840
Speaker 5: had because he's one of us, you know, in a

1472
01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:46,639
Speaker 5: league full of athletes, he's he's top five in there

1473
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:47,599
Speaker 5: of all of them.

1474
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:51,000
Speaker 2: Eddie, do we have any more information today, Eddie Gill,

1475
01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:53,040
Speaker 2: Eddie Gill, our guest Joba House Peel and Pour guest

1476
01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:56,240
Speaker 2: line on the injury of Johnny Furphy or his availability.

1477
01:18:57,560 --> 01:19:00,320
Speaker 5: I have no clue what's going on with that. Obviously,

1478
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:02,960
Speaker 5: we all hope for the best for him. And if

1479
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:04,880
Speaker 5: you were watching that game and saw you know, every

1480
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:06,840
Speaker 5: one of his teammates are out there on the floor

1481
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 5: checking on him. He's like a little brother to everybody,

1482
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:12,320
Speaker 5: and more than anything else, you're just checking on as

1483
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:15,640
Speaker 5: well being a psyche and a mental capacity. Especially you know,

1484
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:17,680
Speaker 5: he's had this opportunity to be in the lineup and

1485
01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:18,880
Speaker 5: play some real minutes.

1486
01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:21,519
Speaker 2: Did I was just gonna say that had we just

1487
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:26,559
Speaker 2: started to see in the last month or so the

1488
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 2: game kind of slowed down for him and Johnny Furfey

1489
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:31,720
Speaker 2: starting to figure out and learn what his role was

1490
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 2: and start to execute that.

1491
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 5: I think he's still got long ways to go, even

1492
01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:38,200
Speaker 5: though he's had this opportunity. I mean, this experience has

1493
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:41,479
Speaker 5: been really good for him. Uh, but definitely him being

1494
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:45,240
Speaker 5: able to take on some tough defensive challenges, uh, you know,

1495
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:48,400
Speaker 5: called upon to run the floor, rebound the rebound of basketball.

1496
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 5: When he has an opportunity to take perimeter shots, take

1497
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:55,439
Speaker 5: those with confidence without hesitating. You know, its hesitancy and

1498
01:19:55,439 --> 01:19:57,679
Speaker 5: an uncertainty is the death of all of us. When

1499
01:19:57,720 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 5: when you're trying to execute something, you got to go

1500
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:01,680
Speaker 5: out there with confidence, and sometimes that.

1501
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:02,160
Speaker 4: Gets to him.

1502
01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:05,000
Speaker 5: But I think there's development for him down the road,

1503
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:06,439
Speaker 5: but this has been a great experience for him.

1504
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:08,640
Speaker 3: Eddie, I know you like to watch both basketball and

1505
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 3: other professional sports on the collegiate front. Have you been

1506
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:14,240
Speaker 3: able to watch a bunch of either Devin Peterson, aj

1507
01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:16,559
Speaker 3: Deban said, Kayla Blisson or Cameron Booser, And if so,

1508
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:20,320
Speaker 3: what are your thoughts on any of those guys.

1509
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 4: I haven't watched a bunch.

1510
01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 5: I wouldn't have watched a bunch, but I've definitely watched them.

1511
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:25,760
Speaker 5: I love college basketball, as you mentioned, so I watch

1512
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:28,960
Speaker 5: a little bit. But those guys are phenomenal talents, all

1513
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 5: those guys. The one thing I like about all of them,

1514
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:33,680
Speaker 5: aside from just a skill set, is they all have

1515
01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:37,600
Speaker 5: good motors. Darren Peterson has missed some games, so that

1516
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:40,720
Speaker 5: you know read into that, which you may, so he

1517
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:43,240
Speaker 5: hasn't been out there or as available as much as those

1518
01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:46,320
Speaker 5: other guys, But yeah, I don't. You can't go wrong

1519
01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:48,160
Speaker 5: with either one of those guys. It's just a matter

1520
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:50,960
Speaker 5: of fit and what a team might need in that moment.

1521
01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 2: Pacers and New York Knicks Tomorrow, Night seven, thirty. You

1522
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:58,080
Speaker 2: can see Eddie on that broadcast. Pregame can be heard

1523
01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:02,760
Speaker 2: on this radio station beginning at evan he Am tomorrow night, Eddie.

1524
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:07,160
Speaker 2: Appreciate the time as always, man, and you're only permitted

1525
01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:09,600
Speaker 2: to use the keyr q R when you see me

1526
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:11,360
Speaker 2: two more times, and then after that you can fade

1527
01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 2: it out if you'd like.

1528
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:13,240
Speaker 4: I got you.

1529
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:14,760
Speaker 5: I yelled at you the other night when I saw

1530
01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 5: you on him.

1531
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:16,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I heard it.

1532
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:18,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, So he wasn't making that up.

1533
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:21,200
Speaker 2: Yeah I did. I told Eddie and he's like, now

1534
01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:23,120
Speaker 2: you're lying. I said no, no, no, he said it. I

1535
01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:25,760
Speaker 2: think twice. Now you've said it to me. Yeah, very much.

1536
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 4: Appreciate.

1537
01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:28,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll just keeps between you and I.

1538
01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:32,040
Speaker 2: That's right than I appreciate Eddie, Eddie Gill joining us

1539
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:38,720
Speaker 2: on the program. Furfey is starting to you know, he

1540
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:44,400
Speaker 2: is a good rebounder, and as he has gotten a

1541
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:47,840
Speaker 2: little more confident, his outside shot has become better as well,

1542
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:52,040
Speaker 2: but or more consistent as well. But that injury yesterday,

1543
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:57,240
Speaker 2: you know, certainly was bothersome. Now, speaking of bothersome in injuries,

1544
01:21:57,240 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 2: there was another one that I saw yesterday, and it

1545
01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:01,880
Speaker 2: raised a question that. I thought to myself, I can't

1546
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 2: be the only one wondering this. And if you wondered

1547
01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:06,920
Speaker 2: it too, you're gonna feel better because I'm gonna say

1548
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:08,519
Speaker 2: it and you're gonna go yep. See, I knew I

1549
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:12,360
Speaker 2: wasn't the only one. I'll explain next now. You had

1550
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:14,120
Speaker 2: to know where I was going with this Eddie to

1551
01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:15,679
Speaker 2: play this song, Jake.

1552
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:21,639
Speaker 3: Even though I may act dumb on intelligent at times,

1553
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:23,599
Speaker 3: I know where you're going most of the time.

1554
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 1: Thank you. I'm that's predictable.

1555
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 3: Well, No, we've worked together long enough. Now, we've done

1556
01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:30,800
Speaker 3: so many shows. I know I kind of have an idea.

1557
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 1: Do you consider being the co pilot of this program?

1558
01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:37,320
Speaker 2: Do you consider this more each and every day like

1559
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:43,639
Speaker 2: a boring train ride through like Kansas on an Amtrak

1560
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:45,719
Speaker 2: or do you consider this more of like the beast

1561
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:47,320
Speaker 2: at King's Island, a root.

1562
01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 3: Canal at the dentist office.

1563
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:50,840
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough.

1564
01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:57,599
Speaker 2: There are two sporting events on television that I genuinely enjoy,

1565
01:22:57,760 --> 01:23:03,080
Speaker 2: even if not a per se of the sports themselves.

1566
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:08,639
Speaker 2: One is the World Cup. I always enjoy the World Cup.

1567
01:23:09,439 --> 01:23:13,439
Speaker 2: I'm not a huge soccer fan. I don't really I've

1568
01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:19,439
Speaker 2: tried many a time to get into soccer. I'm not

1569
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:21,800
Speaker 2: a huge fan of it, but I enjoy the World

1570
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:25,760
Speaker 2: Cup because of all of the pageantry and tradition and

1571
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:30,560
Speaker 2: meaning of all of it, but also because a I enjoy.

1572
01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:33,719
Speaker 1: The underdog story.

1573
01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:36,439
Speaker 2: I like seeing the small countries that, you know, because

1574
01:23:36,439 --> 01:23:39,479
Speaker 2: I do think a lot about this. You know, I'll

1575
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:41,960
Speaker 2: see a country and I won't name any particular nation,

1576
01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:45,080
Speaker 2: but I'll see a country it's their first trip to

1577
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:48,280
Speaker 2: the World Cup, or they're a smaller country that's war

1578
01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:52,320
Speaker 2: torn or impoverished, and I think to myself, if they

1579
01:23:52,360 --> 01:23:54,920
Speaker 2: were to go really far in this, that gives that

1580
01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:58,920
Speaker 2: country's people something to cheer about and feel good about

1581
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:00,680
Speaker 2: and gives them hope.

1582
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 1: And so I can cheer for something like that.

1583
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 2: And I also like the fact that when the World

1584
01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:10,559
Speaker 2: Cup is on, you just kind of know it's like

1585
01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:13,280
Speaker 2: the friend that's always there. You know, when you turn

1586
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:15,720
Speaker 2: your TV on, when you get home from dinner or

1587
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 2: a night out, or when you get up in the morning,

1588
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:19,920
Speaker 2: or if it's raining outside, there's gonna be the World

1589
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:25,879
Speaker 2: Cup to wash right, And that's cool. Now the Olympics

1590
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:28,720
Speaker 2: are much the same way, and in particular the Winter Olympics.

1591
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:32,600
Speaker 2: I like the Winter Olympics because it introduces me to

1592
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 2: a lot of sports of which I otherwise would normally

1593
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 2: never see. And also, you know, it introduces you to

1594
01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:47,320
Speaker 2: nations that you're previously unfamiliar. Now, I was surprised during

1595
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:50,559
Speaker 2: the opening ceremonies with the opening ceremonies Friday night, right.

1596
01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:53,640
Speaker 3: They were Friday at two o'clock U.

1597
01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:56,360
Speaker 2: So it aired for US CM right, but it aired

1598
01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:57,800
Speaker 2: for US in the primetime Friday night.

1599
01:24:57,880 --> 01:24:58,080
Speaker 7: Right.

1600
01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:00,280
Speaker 3: No, it aired for US at two p about the

1601
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 3: afternoon Friday.

1602
01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:04,720
Speaker 2: But it re aired on the primetime Friday night. So

1603
01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:10,200
Speaker 2: as I'm watching it Friday evening, you know, I didn't know,

1604
01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:11,880
Speaker 2: and I'm not even trying to be funny. I did

1605
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:16,040
Speaker 2: not know that Saudi Arabia had Winter Olympic teams. I mean,

1606
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:18,439
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a nation that has a lot

1607
01:25:18,479 --> 01:25:22,080
Speaker 2: of snow or winter type environment. But then again, I mean,

1608
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:24,240
Speaker 2: obviously Jamaica had a bobsled team. I mean, I get it,

1609
01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:29,800
Speaker 2: But in watching all of that, I get into it

1610
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:31,640
Speaker 2: and I appreciate it also because it is just like

1611
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:33,920
Speaker 2: background noise, and it's it's fun and you can put

1612
01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:34,800
Speaker 2: it on on whatever else.

1613
01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:38,719
Speaker 1: But I was very.

1614
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:41,040
Speaker 2: Curious to see what Lindsay Vaughn would be able to do.

1615
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:45,800
Speaker 2: And I watched her, and for those that are unfamiliar,

1616
01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:48,479
Speaker 2: I can't imagine that anybody would be. But if you're

1617
01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 2: not Lindsay Vaughn, a multiple time Olympian who has obviously

1618
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:58,519
Speaker 2: been linked and married to different athletes and men of

1619
01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:01,519
Speaker 2: fame as well, but that's that is not where she

1620
01:26:01,640 --> 01:26:05,439
Speaker 2: needs her fame. She has been a remarkable representation of

1621
01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:08,479
Speaker 2: the United States and athletics and everything for her career

1622
01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:11,080
Speaker 2: so now, and I think a lot of people found

1623
01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:13,679
Speaker 2: inspiration in this that I believe she's forty one years old,

1624
01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:16,680
Speaker 2: but she had a knee injury forty two, So she

1625
01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:19,640
Speaker 2: had a knee injury and was still, you know what,

1626
01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:21,680
Speaker 2: I qualified for the Olympics and I'm going to go

1627
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:25,960
Speaker 2: out and I'm going to compete, And so, like many

1628
01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:28,720
Speaker 2: I was curious to see how she would do. And

1629
01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:32,559
Speaker 2: first off, I mean, what the sport that she is

1630
01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:38,960
Speaker 2: doing is, I mean unbelievable. I can't imagine the speed

1631
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:41,320
Speaker 2: of that, and you know the risk of it, the

1632
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:44,280
Speaker 2: adrenaline of it. I do believe this Eddie. If there

1633
01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:48,880
Speaker 2: was one Olympic sport. I've asked this before. If you

1634
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:54,160
Speaker 2: were given a year of training to learn one winter

1635
01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:56,360
Speaker 2: Olympic sport, what is the one that, no matter what,

1636
01:26:56,400 --> 01:26:56,880
Speaker 2: you would not.

1637
01:26:56,840 --> 01:26:57,439
Speaker 1: Be able to do it?

1638
01:26:58,640 --> 01:26:59,720
Speaker 3: Skiing like that?

1639
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:03,920
Speaker 2: I think it's the high ski jump, right. Can you

1640
01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:08,280
Speaker 2: imagine how long would it take before you had the

1641
01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:10,439
Speaker 2: cajones to go down that ramp?

1642
01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:12,840
Speaker 3: Or the big air snowboard.

1643
01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:15,320
Speaker 2: That too, Yeah, either one of the big air snowboard,

1644
01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:18,360
Speaker 2: Like how do those guys not blow out their ankle

1645
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:18,840
Speaker 2: every time?

1646
01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:19,080
Speaker 1: Right?

1647
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:20,160
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1648
01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:24,240
Speaker 2: But either way, so she goes out and obviously, as

1649
01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:26,960
Speaker 2: everybody knows, Unfortunately, I watched her training the other day.

1650
01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:28,640
Speaker 2: Not I didn't like make an appointment viewing, but I

1651
01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:30,880
Speaker 2: happened to be watching her when her training session was on,

1652
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:31,920
Speaker 2: and I watched it.

1653
01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:33,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, unbelievable.

1654
01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:36,639
Speaker 2: And she goes out and she is I don't know skiing,

1655
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:39,800
Speaker 2: but my understanding is she takes rather aggressive lines. I

1656
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:42,320
Speaker 2: know racing, and I know racing well enough to know

1657
01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 2: that in the world of racing, if you are going

1658
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:48,639
Speaker 2: around at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway in order to make

1659
01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:51,760
Speaker 2: the lap as short as possible or to you know,

1660
01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:54,320
Speaker 2: cut time, so to speak. If you go down low,

1661
01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:56,320
Speaker 2: you can shave the corner a little bit. Well, if

1662
01:27:56,360 --> 01:27:58,400
Speaker 2: you get too low, you get out of the area

1663
01:27:58,479 --> 01:28:01,479
Speaker 2: of grip, and then things become icy. And I think

1664
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:03,800
Speaker 2: in snow skiing, I would imagine it's the same. There's

1665
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:06,400
Speaker 2: a groove, there's a spot you go. If you get

1666
01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:07,960
Speaker 2: too far outside of that and you hit the wrong

1667
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 2: kind of snow or a more slick ice, you're in trouble.

1668
01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:14,000
Speaker 1: And she was riding that fine line.

1669
01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:17,559
Speaker 3: She went contact with one of the flags.

1670
01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:19,120
Speaker 1: I did see that her arm did right.

1671
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:22,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what people need to be the reason.

1672
01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:27,800
Speaker 2: The thing to me that I found most surprising. And

1673
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:29,800
Speaker 2: I'm not even trying to be funny, I promise, I'm

1674
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:31,800
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not making light of this. I was

1675
01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:39,760
Speaker 2: surprised by it. When she got injured. I mean, these

1676
01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:42,240
Speaker 2: people would know better than I. I was stunned.

1677
01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:45,360
Speaker 3: They're talking on the first time or the second time.

1678
01:28:45,560 --> 01:28:47,679
Speaker 1: When she got seriously injured the other day.

1679
01:28:47,760 --> 01:28:50,920
Speaker 2: I mean when she broke her leg. Yes, okay, and

1680
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:53,160
Speaker 2: I get it. She's on the side of a mountain

1681
01:28:53,240 --> 01:28:55,120
Speaker 2: and you have events that you have to maintain to

1682
01:28:55,400 --> 01:28:59,680
Speaker 2: keep going. But they put her in a sled. Am

1683
01:28:59,720 --> 01:29:02,360
Speaker 2: I the only one that was stunned that they airlifted

1684
01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:04,439
Speaker 2: her out with a helicopter. And I'm like, wait a minute,

1685
01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:09,080
Speaker 2: Like she's now she's like twenty five hundred feet above

1686
01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:11,840
Speaker 2: the surface, just flying through the air. Well, how else

1687
01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:14,840
Speaker 2: are you going to get down the slope? Though, Jacob, Okay,

1688
01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:17,679
Speaker 2: excellent question. She's in a sled, right.

1689
01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:20,599
Speaker 3: You're gonna sled her down with a broken leg.

1690
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:25,320
Speaker 2: Or back up. I was surprised that they don't have

1691
01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:26,960
Speaker 2: some sort of.

1692
01:29:26,840 --> 01:29:30,000
Speaker 3: She was also airlifted when she ruptured her acl.

1693
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:32,120
Speaker 2: But I was surprised that they don't have something in place.

1694
01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:34,120
Speaker 2: And I get it, you probably have to maintain the

1695
01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:37,519
Speaker 2: surface of the snow and whatever else, but that they

1696
01:29:37,560 --> 01:29:41,479
Speaker 2: don't have some means of I mean, maybe it takes

1697
01:29:41,479 --> 01:29:44,280
Speaker 2: a thirty minute delay or whatever, but going down and

1698
01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:47,880
Speaker 2: basically toe roping it back up the hill, or for

1699
01:29:47,960 --> 01:29:54,720
Speaker 2: that matter, with supervision, sledding her down and then off

1700
01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:57,519
Speaker 2: of an area where then like an ATV or something

1701
01:29:57,560 --> 01:29:59,400
Speaker 2: is able to get to her. I just I mean,

1702
01:29:59,439 --> 01:30:03,759
Speaker 2: I get it, but I'm curious. I am genuinely curious.

1703
01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:06,960
Speaker 2: Am I the only one that was surprised by seeing

1704
01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:09,160
Speaker 2: the footage of her that granted they've got her in

1705
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:11,360
Speaker 2: there and she's covered up, so it's not like she's

1706
01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:14,200
Speaker 2: looking out and seeing, Oh, by the way, you're just

1707
01:30:14,240 --> 01:30:16,280
Speaker 2: strapped to the bottom of a sled that's now like

1708
01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:20,080
Speaker 2: swirling around twenty five hundred feet in the air on

1709
01:30:20,120 --> 01:30:20,760
Speaker 2: a helicopter.

1710
01:30:22,160 --> 01:30:23,920
Speaker 1: And I don't know, I mean, did they.

1711
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:29,240
Speaker 2: I guess if you can't land the helicopter on the

1712
01:30:29,280 --> 01:30:31,200
Speaker 2: side of the mountain too, I mean, there are a

1713
01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:34,560
Speaker 2: lot of logistical challenges there, but it just seemed to

1714
01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:36,599
Speaker 2: me she wasn't that far into the run, was she

1715
01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:39,160
Speaker 2: Wasn't it basically right at the beginning pretty much. Yeah,

1716
01:30:39,160 --> 01:30:41,000
Speaker 2: so she couldn't have been that far from the very top.

1717
01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:44,400
Speaker 2: That's my point that they didn't have a mechanism that

1718
01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:48,080
Speaker 2: somehow like a machine that has a tot rope attached

1719
01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:49,960
Speaker 2: to it, that you attached to the back of the

1720
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:54,679
Speaker 2: sled and then just like pull it back up again,

1721
01:30:54,720 --> 01:30:56,880
Speaker 2: maybe with somebody there to guide it. I don't know,

1722
01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:01,479
Speaker 2: did you find it surprising, Eddie, or am I alone

1723
01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:03,880
Speaker 2: on my own island here I phone snowy mountain.

1724
01:31:03,920 --> 01:31:06,520
Speaker 3: I don't know, like I was thinking of it, like logistically,

1725
01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:10,120
Speaker 3: I'm like, there's no way you can't. No vehicle is

1726
01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:13,840
Speaker 3: able to just drive up a mountain at that, you know,

1727
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:15,479
Speaker 3: that degree of incline.

1728
01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:19,719
Speaker 2: No, I get that or down? So, like Jake, rules

1729
01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:21,200
Speaker 2: say they have to airlift them out.

1730
01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:23,160
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, Like that's the only way I feel like

1731
01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:26,000
Speaker 3: is you're able to get somebody off a mountain like that.

1732
01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:28,200
Speaker 1: Okay.

1733
01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:31,280
Speaker 3: I don't think there's a way to really, you know,

1734
01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:33,080
Speaker 3: either go down or go up the mountain.

1735
01:31:34,640 --> 01:31:36,200
Speaker 2: By the way, did I see that the NFL is

1736
01:31:36,240 --> 01:31:37,599
Speaker 2: doing a game in Australia next year?

1737
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:38,840
Speaker 7: Uh?

1738
01:31:39,120 --> 01:31:40,120
Speaker 1: Did I hallucinate that?

1739
01:31:40,360 --> 01:31:42,519
Speaker 3: Did you see when the Super Bowl is next year?

1740
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:43,040
Speaker 5: No?

1741
01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:44,479
Speaker 3: Valentine's Day?

1742
01:31:45,439 --> 01:31:45,840
Speaker 5: No? Boy?

1743
01:31:46,240 --> 01:31:48,800
Speaker 3: And then the next day is President's Day.

1744
01:31:50,240 --> 01:31:51,639
Speaker 1: President's Day's on the fifteenth.

1745
01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:52,200
Speaker 3: Yep.

1746
01:31:53,360 --> 01:31:55,559
Speaker 1: I thought it was always the week of the twentieth.

1747
01:31:55,560 --> 01:31:58,160
Speaker 1: Thought I could be wrong in that. The third Monday, well, we're.

1748
01:31:58,000 --> 01:32:01,000
Speaker 3: A week away from President's Day. You realize that no

1749
01:32:01,080 --> 01:32:03,479
Speaker 3: show next Monday? Really yep?

1750
01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:05,200
Speaker 1: So I can't do my presidential fun facts.

1751
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:06,839
Speaker 3: No, that's a bummer.

1752
01:32:07,720 --> 01:32:11,679
Speaker 2: People love My kids love that in particular. I Hey, Jake,

1753
01:32:12,920 --> 01:32:15,640
Speaker 2: the NFL definitely wants to go global. Yeah, that's what

1754
01:32:15,680 --> 01:32:18,120
Speaker 2: I'm talking about when I heard the game taking place

1755
01:32:18,200 --> 01:32:22,439
Speaker 2: in Australia. Maybe I hallucinated that Jake kevin't been around

1756
01:32:22,479 --> 01:32:24,360
Speaker 2: downhill skiing for quite a while. I've seen many an

1757
01:32:24,400 --> 01:32:27,360
Speaker 2: injured person taken down by sled behind a skid, very

1758
01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:29,439
Speaker 2: rough ride and very challenging. I'm sure this is the

1759
01:32:29,439 --> 01:32:32,240
Speaker 2: best way to the hospital from a remote mountain location.

1760
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:35,360
Speaker 1: Okay, I just visually speaking, I was like, whoa.

1761
01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:40,160
Speaker 2: Super Bowl reflections and I'm talking about the game itself.

1762
01:32:40,240 --> 01:32:42,400
Speaker 2: Will get into that with a guy that covers it

1763
01:32:42,439 --> 01:32:44,439
Speaker 2: as much as anybody in this market.

1764
01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:46,759
Speaker 1: Next, what a tune.

1765
01:32:47,439 --> 01:32:51,080
Speaker 2: By the way, my mom, I need to apologize formally

1766
01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:54,080
Speaker 2: to my mom earlier when I was talking about family

1767
01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:55,720
Speaker 2: memories or whatever else, and I said, you know, and

1768
01:32:55,720 --> 01:32:57,240
Speaker 2: then you get to an age where when your parents

1769
01:32:57,240 --> 01:33:01,200
Speaker 2: are aging, my mom's like, I'm not aging. I My

1770
01:33:01,280 --> 01:33:06,240
Speaker 2: mom is, in fact Benjamin Button. So I totally misspoke there.

1771
01:33:06,320 --> 01:33:08,880
Speaker 3: To answer your question, coming back with me and I

1772
01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:12,720
Speaker 3: work because the International Games in twenty twenty six, there

1773
01:33:12,720 --> 01:33:13,639
Speaker 3: are nine of them.

1774
01:33:15,240 --> 01:33:16,519
Speaker 1: Can I guess where all they're playing?

1775
01:33:17,120 --> 01:33:17,400
Speaker 2: Sure?

1776
01:33:17,479 --> 01:33:21,360
Speaker 1: Why not? Should we bring Chap into this to allow him?

1777
01:33:21,560 --> 01:33:23,559
Speaker 3: Here's the thing I think Chap may know all the

1778
01:33:23,600 --> 01:33:29,200
Speaker 3: answer because Chap's on it. Frankfurt, No, there are one, two, three, four,

1779
01:33:29,320 --> 01:33:36,160
Speaker 3: five's six? Seven different cities. Okay, Mexico City, that is correct.

1780
01:33:36,200 --> 01:33:43,080
Speaker 3: That's one. Uh Berlin Berlin, no, okay, Paris, Paris, yes,

1781
01:33:43,320 --> 01:33:46,519
Speaker 3: that's two. London, Yes, they have three of the games.

1782
01:33:46,680 --> 01:33:49,519
Speaker 3: So that's three of the seven cities.

1783
01:33:50,240 --> 01:33:56,800
Speaker 2: Sydney No, Melbourne, yes, okay. Our Australian buddy, Michael and

1784
01:33:56,840 --> 01:33:57,960
Speaker 2: Marcus will be thrilled with that.

1785
01:33:58,040 --> 01:33:58,840
Speaker 3: I bet they will be.

1786
01:33:59,240 --> 01:34:01,960
Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm missing how many three are they in

1787
01:34:01,960 --> 01:34:03,360
Speaker 2: countries that I've been named already?

1788
01:34:03,520 --> 01:34:11,719
Speaker 3: Yes, one of them is yes, hit me Munich Okay,

1789
01:34:12,200 --> 01:34:15,120
Speaker 3: Madrid and Rio Madrid.

1790
01:34:15,120 --> 01:34:16,479
Speaker 1: They did this year to do not.

1791
01:34:17,200 --> 01:34:18,840
Speaker 3: I can't remember if they did it this year or

1792
01:34:19,280 --> 01:34:19,680
Speaker 3: last year.

1793
01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:24,160
Speaker 2: I'm telling you that's what when people want, people think,

1794
01:34:24,320 --> 01:34:27,679
Speaker 2: and I respect it that the selection of the halftime

1795
01:34:27,720 --> 01:34:30,640
Speaker 2: show performer is a political statement. It's less that and

1796
01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:34,880
Speaker 2: more the NFL's ongoing attempt to globalize its brand. Now,

1797
01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:36,400
Speaker 2: who is playing in Melbourne?

1798
01:34:37,720 --> 01:34:40,360
Speaker 3: I don't think they've announced who's playing in Melbourne just yet.

1799
01:34:41,880 --> 01:34:44,000
Speaker 2: Mike Chapel joins US now, Java House Peel and poor

1800
01:34:44,080 --> 01:34:48,280
Speaker 2: guest line from CBS four and WXA and Fox fifty nine, Chap,

1801
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:50,439
Speaker 2: do you know when they will announce? Is it possible

1802
01:34:50,479 --> 01:34:52,760
Speaker 2: the Colts could be in one of these games?

1803
01:34:53,479 --> 01:34:53,799
Speaker 4: Sure?

1804
01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:54,360
Speaker 5: Munich?

1805
01:34:54,400 --> 01:34:57,840
Speaker 7: Maybe they sort of have a German slant of their

1806
01:34:58,160 --> 01:35:01,960
Speaker 7: overseas we're looking here, well, bern it's the Rams and

1807
01:35:01,960 --> 01:35:06,920
Speaker 7: the forty nine ers, Okay, Rio Dallas of course, Dallas,

1808
01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:10,960
Speaker 7: of course. I mean they do everything for crappy franchise.

1809
01:35:12,240 --> 01:35:16,759
Speaker 7: Parents are the Saints speaking of a crappy franchise? Uh?

1810
01:35:16,840 --> 01:35:21,719
Speaker 7: And then that's since this is we're just talking among friends,

1811
01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:25,720
Speaker 7: that's right there. I think those are the only ones

1812
01:35:25,760 --> 01:35:28,240
Speaker 7: that have have teams named him right.

1813
01:35:28,120 --> 01:35:31,880
Speaker 2: Now, Okay, Chap, I'll tell you what I was in

1814
01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:37,840
Speaker 2: Munich in November. I couldn't believe how. I don't know

1815
01:35:37,840 --> 01:35:39,439
Speaker 2: what I was expecting. And I mean, this is no

1816
01:35:39,520 --> 01:35:42,400
Speaker 2: disrespect to Germany, but I just I don't know what

1817
01:35:42,439 --> 01:35:45,160
Speaker 2: I was expecting. But Munich was awesome, Like it was

1818
01:35:45,160 --> 01:35:48,040
Speaker 2: a super cool city. That would be if the Colts

1819
01:35:48,080 --> 01:35:50,080
Speaker 2: go to Munich, Man people need to go. It was cool.

1820
01:35:51,800 --> 01:35:55,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's that's weird. The wife and I had hoped

1821
01:35:55,280 --> 01:35:57,040
Speaker 7: to go to Berlin. We've set it up with our

1822
01:35:57,400 --> 01:36:00,040
Speaker 7: son to go for some of my step son and

1823
01:36:00,160 --> 01:36:04,080
Speaker 7: it just was my back hip stuff and all that

1824
01:36:04,160 --> 01:36:06,639
Speaker 7: didn't work out. But he went, had a great time,

1825
01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:10,519
Speaker 7: had a great time. Uh so yeah, hopefully that, you know,

1826
01:36:12,040 --> 01:36:14,720
Speaker 7: since I'm closer to the end in the beginning, if

1827
01:36:14,720 --> 01:36:16,599
Speaker 7: they go overseas again in the next year or two,

1828
01:36:17,160 --> 01:36:20,080
Speaker 7: I'd love to go. I think Mcdrid would be cool.

1829
01:36:20,479 --> 01:36:23,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Madrid would be very cool because I've been to Barcelona,

1830
01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:25,400
Speaker 2: but I think Madrid is more pure just you know,

1831
01:36:25,479 --> 01:36:26,920
Speaker 2: Spanish culture, if you will.

1832
01:36:27,040 --> 01:36:31,760
Speaker 7: Right, we went to That's one of the fortunate byproducts

1833
01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:34,280
Speaker 7: of covering the cult so long as I've gone to

1834
01:36:34,400 --> 01:36:37,639
Speaker 7: their overseas games, except for the last couple in Germany.

1835
01:36:37,800 --> 01:36:40,680
Speaker 7: You know, London was outstanding. We Jim Mercy had a

1836
01:36:40,680 --> 01:36:44,639
Speaker 7: dinner at Kensington Palace. I mean, howly spokes you talk

1837
01:36:44,680 --> 01:36:48,439
Speaker 7: about Beverly Hill Billies being you know, at a place

1838
01:36:48,520 --> 01:36:51,559
Speaker 7: in London for Crent Heatlas. But I went to Mexico

1839
01:36:51,680 --> 01:36:55,960
Speaker 7: City for a preseason game, which was an experience beyond all.

1840
01:36:55,960 --> 01:36:58,880
Speaker 7: I went went to Tokyo for a preseason game. Michael

1841
01:36:58,960 --> 01:37:01,639
Speaker 7: Vick and Peyton Manning and all that. So really really

1842
01:37:01,920 --> 01:37:05,479
Speaker 7: no knowing what the Toronto. You know, big whoop, But

1843
01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:10,679
Speaker 7: it's really a great byproduct of sticking around a long time.

1844
01:37:11,720 --> 01:37:14,960
Speaker 2: And by the way, of course, the Tokyo trip was

1845
01:37:15,200 --> 01:37:16,880
Speaker 2: that's what led to one of the great quotes in

1846
01:37:16,880 --> 01:37:19,960
Speaker 2: the history of the NFL in Indianapolis with Edrin James.

1847
01:37:20,240 --> 01:37:22,200
Speaker 1: The closest I'll get to Tokyo's Benny Hannah.

1848
01:37:22,280 --> 01:37:25,640
Speaker 2: Still a great quote, yes, But chap let's get to

1849
01:37:26,040 --> 01:37:30,200
Speaker 2: yesterday the Super Bowl. First off, your overall impressions on

1850
01:37:30,240 --> 01:37:34,519
Speaker 2: the game itself, and if there was anything schematically or

1851
01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:37,240
Speaker 2: in terms of its execution that surprised.

1852
01:37:36,760 --> 01:37:41,040
Speaker 7: You, I guess it shouldn't have surprised me. But the

1853
01:37:41,080 --> 01:37:44,920
Speaker 7: Patriots had no ability to slow down the pass rush.

1854
01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:48,479
Speaker 7: And as we've seen over the years forever, if you

1855
01:37:48,520 --> 01:37:52,040
Speaker 7: can't protect your quarterback, you're done. You know, the last

1856
01:37:52,040 --> 01:37:54,840
Speaker 7: two times, if I'm not mistaken, when Patrick Mahomes has

1857
01:37:54,880 --> 01:38:00,559
Speaker 7: gotten beaten up in the Super Bowl, he's just gotten pummeled. So,

1858
01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:02,599
Speaker 7: whether that was on Drake may, whether that was on

1859
01:38:02,680 --> 01:38:07,040
Speaker 7: Jack McDaniels for not making any adjustments, or what I

1860
01:38:07,080 --> 01:38:09,240
Speaker 7: think the Patriots was it the first time they started

1861
01:38:09,280 --> 01:38:12,280
Speaker 7: a team started two rookies on the left side of

1862
01:38:12,320 --> 01:38:15,519
Speaker 7: the line or maybe on the line period, and those

1863
01:38:15,560 --> 01:38:19,519
Speaker 7: guys just couldn't do it. I expected Seattle to win.

1864
01:38:19,760 --> 01:38:23,320
Speaker 7: I had like twenty seven seventeen. I just thought their

1865
01:38:23,360 --> 01:38:27,760
Speaker 7: defense was was that good. And I didn't think the

1866
01:38:27,800 --> 01:38:31,840
Speaker 7: Patriots were that bad. But they sort of had and

1867
01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:34,080
Speaker 7: I'm not going to take it. They made the Super Bowl,

1868
01:38:34,479 --> 01:38:37,559
Speaker 7: but they had as been noted that they played an

1869
01:38:37,560 --> 01:38:42,160
Speaker 7: easier schedule and they sort of, you know, benefited from

1870
01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:45,040
Speaker 7: things that happened along the way with bo Nicks being

1871
01:38:45,360 --> 01:38:48,840
Speaker 7: you know, being hurt and all that. So yeah, it's

1872
01:38:48,920 --> 01:38:52,519
Speaker 7: but you're there, and you hate that. If you're a team,

1873
01:38:52,560 --> 01:38:55,439
Speaker 7: you hate to have it. Didn't like that. But I'm

1874
01:38:55,560 --> 01:38:58,800
Speaker 7: really curious how Drake May comes back from this, because

1875
01:38:58,800 --> 01:39:01,960
Speaker 7: it was just a bad pan. I think I saw

1876
01:39:02,040 --> 01:39:04,120
Speaker 7: that's funny. I think he threw for two hundred and

1877
01:39:04,160 --> 01:39:06,960
Speaker 7: thirty five yards in a fourth quarter, the most ever

1878
01:39:07,040 --> 01:39:08,800
Speaker 7: by a quarterback and a quarter.

1879
01:39:09,920 --> 01:39:11,920
Speaker 2: And I don't know if it was that Seattle just

1880
01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:15,679
Speaker 2: went to a different formation, but you know, Collinsworth made

1881
01:39:15,680 --> 01:39:18,439
Speaker 2: the point that you could see where for May he

1882
01:39:18,640 --> 01:39:23,000
Speaker 2: finally started to recognize some looks and was then able.

1883
01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:25,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think anybody questions his arm strength

1884
01:39:25,280 --> 01:39:26,519
Speaker 2: or you know, and of course he was hurt going

1885
01:39:26,520 --> 01:39:29,280
Speaker 2: into it. But yeah, it did feel like that fourth

1886
01:39:29,360 --> 01:39:31,320
Speaker 2: quarter was completely different than the previous three.

1887
01:39:32,200 --> 01:39:34,439
Speaker 7: Well, let's keep in mind, I'm watching that game and

1888
01:39:34,479 --> 01:39:39,719
Speaker 7: how ineffective the Patriots were in a way, we're comparing

1889
01:39:39,720 --> 01:39:42,559
Speaker 7: gamples and oranges and all that stuff. But I remember

1890
01:39:42,600 --> 01:39:44,760
Speaker 7: not too long ago when Philip Rivers came off his

1891
01:39:44,880 --> 01:39:49,759
Speaker 7: couch and damn near beat those guys in Seattle. Remember

1892
01:39:49,800 --> 01:39:53,160
Speaker 7: eighteen sixteen and it was sixteen fifteen with forty seven seconds. Supply,

1893
01:39:54,160 --> 01:39:58,040
Speaker 7: now it's it was the perfect game plan by Shane

1894
01:39:58,080 --> 01:40:03,920
Speaker 7: Stike and LeWinn Romo and all that, but still it

1895
01:40:04,040 --> 01:40:07,479
Speaker 7: sure it could be done. So yeah, but like I said,

1896
01:40:07,479 --> 01:40:10,880
Speaker 7: I'm curious how he comes back. There have been quarterbacks

1897
01:40:09,880 --> 01:40:13,160
Speaker 7: that have a hard time. Dan Marino, for crying out

1898
01:40:13,240 --> 01:40:19,439
Speaker 7: loud was there once once, so we'll see. I never

1899
01:40:19,600 --> 01:40:24,000
Speaker 7: totally bought into the Patriots being that team. Thought they

1900
01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:27,160
Speaker 7: were a good team, but I still always thought Denver

1901
01:40:27,479 --> 01:40:33,200
Speaker 7: or Buffalo would be the team that got there. But good,

1902
01:40:33,280 --> 01:40:35,280
Speaker 7: good for the Patriots, and now they can, you know,

1903
01:40:35,320 --> 01:40:38,080
Speaker 7: try to rebuild or read peak or whatever the hell

1904
01:40:38,160 --> 01:40:39,760
Speaker 7: you do when you lose the Super Bowl, because a

1905
01:40:39,760 --> 01:40:41,679
Speaker 7: lot of the teams that lose the Super Bowl do

1906
01:40:41,720 --> 01:40:43,080
Speaker 7: not get back there the next year.

1907
01:40:43,560 --> 01:40:47,559
Speaker 2: You know, the Seattle and I was curious of this

1908
01:40:47,680 --> 01:40:52,920
Speaker 2: chap your thoughts if you look at Seattle, and you know,

1909
01:40:53,240 --> 01:40:56,679
Speaker 2: as I mentioned earlier in the program, at the very least,

1910
01:40:56,680 --> 01:40:58,879
Speaker 2: at least the Colts could hang a banner saying Seattle

1911
01:40:58,920 --> 01:41:02,439
Speaker 2: won a Super Bowl with a quarterback that was selected

1912
01:41:02,439 --> 01:41:05,240
Speaker 2: with the pick we once owned. I mean, you get

1913
01:41:05,280 --> 01:41:07,599
Speaker 2: that right, because the Jets took them with a pick

1914
01:41:07,640 --> 01:41:09,679
Speaker 2: that the Colts traded to New York so they could

1915
01:41:09,680 --> 01:41:12,040
Speaker 2: move up to get Dnald. But you got to be

1916
01:41:12,040 --> 01:41:15,120
Speaker 2: happy for Donald, but Donald. There was nothing about Sam

1917
01:41:15,160 --> 01:41:17,360
Speaker 2: Darnald that overly blew you away over the course of

1918
01:41:17,400 --> 01:41:18,000
Speaker 2: this season.

1919
01:41:19,160 --> 01:41:21,519
Speaker 1: But the blueprint of what Seattle did.

1920
01:41:22,960 --> 01:41:26,439
Speaker 2: Does that give Indianapolis some hope because you look at

1921
01:41:26,439 --> 01:41:29,280
Speaker 2: it and you go, okay, the Colts have what could

1922
01:41:29,280 --> 01:41:34,120
Speaker 2: be a dynamic tied or wide receiver. They have a

1923
01:41:34,160 --> 01:41:36,599
Speaker 2: wide receiver that's a veteran that can catch you tough

1924
01:41:36,640 --> 01:41:39,320
Speaker 2: balls over the middle or in space. If they're going

1925
01:41:39,400 --> 01:41:41,439
Speaker 2: to be able to bring Pittman back. They have a

1926
01:41:41,520 --> 01:41:43,720
Speaker 2: running back that they can use like Walker and to

1927
01:41:44,360 --> 01:41:47,120
Speaker 2: accentuate and really burst and tailor maybe the Colts rely

1928
01:41:47,200 --> 01:41:49,680
Speaker 2: on it almost too much. And then a quarterback and

1929
01:41:49,760 --> 01:41:52,160
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones that can be like Donald, maybe even a

1930
01:41:52,160 --> 01:41:55,600
Speaker 2: better version of Darnald. The question then becomes, do the

1931
01:41:55,640 --> 01:41:58,679
Speaker 2: Colts can they get the kind of pass rush heat

1932
01:41:58,920 --> 01:42:00,760
Speaker 2: that Seattle was able to do. And that's not to

1933
01:42:00,800 --> 01:42:03,840
Speaker 2: say they have not tried to do that, but is

1934
01:42:03,920 --> 01:42:06,519
Speaker 2: there some form of a blueprint where the Colts can

1935
01:42:06,560 --> 01:42:07,960
Speaker 2: be Seattle light?

1936
01:42:08,960 --> 01:42:11,880
Speaker 7: Well, but that's what that's who they are. That's who

1937
01:42:11,920 --> 01:42:15,280
Speaker 7: the Colts are. Everything in the Seattle did Now the

1938
01:42:15,280 --> 01:42:18,360
Speaker 7: defense is light years from where the Colts were because

1939
01:42:18,360 --> 01:42:21,360
Speaker 7: of the pass rushing and talent in a few spots.

1940
01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:24,040
Speaker 7: But this is exactly how the Colts want to play

1941
01:42:24,560 --> 01:42:27,040
Speaker 7: and when they were when they were, you know, eight

1942
01:42:27,080 --> 01:42:30,320
Speaker 7: and two. I'm doing a look ahead for our website

1943
01:42:30,479 --> 01:42:33,400
Speaker 7: and I'm starting with quarterbacks for tomorrow and everything they

1944
01:42:33,439 --> 01:42:36,160
Speaker 7: did when they were eight and two, that's what Seattle

1945
01:42:37,040 --> 01:42:40,719
Speaker 7: did all season. You got a quarterback who's making plays,

1946
01:42:40,720 --> 01:42:44,720
Speaker 7: he's not making mistakes. The offense. People. People free it

1947
01:42:44,800 --> 01:42:47,000
Speaker 7: very quickly that when they were eight and too, they

1948
01:42:47,000 --> 01:42:49,960
Speaker 7: had the best offense on a planet first and scoring

1949
01:42:50,040 --> 01:42:52,200
Speaker 7: first in yards first and yards per play, first in

1950
01:42:52,280 --> 01:42:57,400
Speaker 7: rushing yards per attempt, and the defense is okay, although

1951
01:42:57,439 --> 01:43:01,639
Speaker 7: they were still missing people. And remember remember when Jonathan

1952
01:43:01,680 --> 01:43:05,000
Speaker 7: Taylor and Daniel Jones were like in the MVP discussion,

1953
01:43:05,120 --> 01:43:07,479
Speaker 7: Jonathan Taylor was averaging like one hundred and thirteen yards

1954
01:43:07,560 --> 01:43:07,840
Speaker 7: a game.

1955
01:43:08,080 --> 01:43:08,759
Speaker 4: It was crazy.

1956
01:43:09,520 --> 01:43:12,920
Speaker 7: So that that's no, they it's not necessarily the blueprint

1957
01:43:12,960 --> 01:43:15,720
Speaker 7: that the Seattle has. That that's that's the blueprint that

1958
01:43:15,800 --> 01:43:18,400
Speaker 7: Colts have built on. They were built on this year.

1959
01:43:19,160 --> 01:43:23,080
Speaker 7: Uh Now, like I said, the difference being the Colts

1960
01:43:23,120 --> 01:43:26,559
Speaker 7: pass rush simply wasn't good enough. It hasn't been good

1961
01:43:26,640 --> 01:43:32,160
Speaker 7: enough for too many years. And and a pass rush

1962
01:43:32,200 --> 01:43:34,680
Speaker 7: you know who would you would you rather have a

1963
01:43:34,680 --> 01:43:37,920
Speaker 7: strong pass rush or better corners? I'd take a pass rush.

1964
01:43:38,160 --> 01:43:41,240
Speaker 7: It severs up a lot of things. I remember talking

1965
01:43:41,280 --> 01:43:44,200
Speaker 7: to to someone maybe it was someone at the Colts.

1966
01:43:44,240 --> 01:43:47,200
Speaker 7: And remember when the Forest Buckner was out and then

1967
01:43:47,240 --> 01:43:49,519
Speaker 7: one of the corners were out. You know which one

1968
01:43:49,520 --> 01:43:52,040
Speaker 7: would you rather have a lot like Mooney Ward or

1969
01:43:52,439 --> 01:43:55,759
Speaker 7: the Forest Buckner? I think the Forest Buckner every day

1970
01:43:56,200 --> 01:43:59,760
Speaker 7: every day. So no, but your points were well taken.

1971
01:43:59,800 --> 01:44:03,599
Speaker 7: It that that is what the Colts you know, aspire

1972
01:44:03,640 --> 01:44:06,120
Speaker 7: to be to that, and for a long time, for

1973
01:44:06,200 --> 01:44:09,120
Speaker 7: ten games, that's who they were. And then when Jones

1974
01:44:09,160 --> 01:44:12,439
Speaker 7: gets hurt, it all, you know, came tumbling down and

1975
01:44:12,520 --> 01:44:15,519
Speaker 7: they couldn't they couldn't have this spiral, which very few

1976
01:44:15,560 --> 01:44:20,320
Speaker 7: teams recovered from losing not only your starting quarterback but

1977
01:44:20,439 --> 01:44:23,160
Speaker 7: your back up. But with Anthony Rigidson, they were down

1978
01:44:23,200 --> 01:44:26,519
Speaker 7: to three and four four when they brought in Grandpa Phil.

1979
01:44:27,600 --> 01:44:31,280
Speaker 7: So yeah, that's what you want to do. Uh. And

1980
01:44:31,600 --> 01:44:34,840
Speaker 7: the more you watch Daniel Jones play, I always kind

1981
01:44:34,840 --> 01:44:37,640
Speaker 7: of going to compare him to Alex Smith, which is

1982
01:44:37,680 --> 01:44:40,680
Speaker 7: not which is not criticism at all. Alex Smith has

1983
01:44:40,720 --> 01:44:44,120
Speaker 7: pretty gone good when he got out of Frisco. So

1984
01:44:44,320 --> 01:44:46,479
Speaker 7: that's that's what you need. Would you like to would

1985
01:44:46,479 --> 01:44:49,720
Speaker 7: you like to have you know, Burrow and Allen and

1986
01:44:49,760 --> 01:44:52,080
Speaker 7: all those guys? Of course Mahomes, of course you would.

1987
01:44:52,360 --> 01:44:55,400
Speaker 7: There just aren't very many of those guys, but but

1988
01:44:55,520 --> 01:44:58,960
Speaker 7: you could you can win with with Again, I don't

1989
01:44:59,000 --> 01:45:03,920
Speaker 7: know where where Sam Donald ranks now, you know, in

1990
01:45:03,960 --> 01:45:08,479
Speaker 7: the league? Is he top ten? He's maybe, I don't know.

1991
01:45:08,800 --> 01:45:12,639
Speaker 2: Doesn't it feel like he's kind of in that I'm

1992
01:45:12,680 --> 01:45:15,479
Speaker 2: like twelve to fifteen, you know, to like ten to

1993
01:45:15,479 --> 01:45:16,720
Speaker 2: fifteen maybe.

1994
01:45:16,760 --> 01:45:19,960
Speaker 7: Right, but when the other pieces are in place for crying.

1995
01:45:19,960 --> 01:45:22,760
Speaker 1: Now, that's enough, Okay, Chap, Let's do this.

1996
01:45:23,320 --> 01:45:27,840
Speaker 2: Quarterbacks went healthy that in the league that are definitively

1997
01:45:27,920 --> 01:45:29,920
Speaker 2: better than Sam Darnold.

1998
01:45:29,920 --> 01:45:31,320
Speaker 1: I'm going to name a quarterback. You just give me

1999
01:45:31,320 --> 01:45:31,800
Speaker 1: a yes or no.

2000
01:45:31,840 --> 01:45:39,200
Speaker 2: You're ready, Okay, Mahomes yes, Lamar Jackson yes, Josh Allen yes,

2001
01:45:39,479 --> 01:45:48,800
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts yes. Justin Herbert, I want to say yes,

2002
01:45:48,800 --> 01:45:54,920
Speaker 2: and I'll say no, Okay, Matt Stafford Yes, Eddie helped

2003
01:45:54,920 --> 01:45:55,160
Speaker 2: me out.

2004
01:45:55,200 --> 01:45:59,840
Speaker 1: Bo Nicks no, Joe Burrow, Joe Burrow.

2005
01:46:00,200 --> 01:46:01,599
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's six yep.

2006
01:46:03,080 --> 01:46:04,360
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams.

2007
01:46:07,640 --> 01:46:08,160
Speaker 7: Not yet.

2008
01:46:08,560 --> 01:46:15,479
Speaker 1: Jared Goff, Yes, that's close.

2009
01:46:15,560 --> 01:46:16,240
Speaker 4: That's a close one.

2010
01:46:16,280 --> 01:46:22,280
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield.

2011
01:46:21,720 --> 01:46:23,360
Speaker 3: No, okay, Trevor Lawrence.

2012
01:46:23,520 --> 01:46:24,639
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. Good one.

2013
01:46:25,479 --> 01:46:28,360
Speaker 7: Trevor Lawrence. That's another good. That's that's I would say

2014
01:46:28,360 --> 01:46:30,280
Speaker 7: no because he always makes some mistakes when you can't

2015
01:46:30,280 --> 01:46:32,320
Speaker 7: afford him. So all of a sudden, we've got Darnald

2016
01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:33,280
Speaker 7: top heat.

2017
01:46:33,600 --> 01:46:34,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you got him.

2018
01:46:34,720 --> 01:46:37,240
Speaker 2: You got him basically sitting in the neighborhood with Baker

2019
01:46:37,280 --> 01:46:39,880
Speaker 2: Mayfield and Trevor Lawrence is his neighbors, right right.

2020
01:46:40,400 --> 01:46:43,880
Speaker 7: It's funny how again, how the season changes things, because

2021
01:46:43,920 --> 01:46:48,000
Speaker 7: again when mid season, Baker Mayfield was the talk of

2022
01:46:48,040 --> 01:46:51,439
Speaker 7: the town too, and then they went to hell. So

2023
01:46:51,920 --> 01:46:55,000
Speaker 7: uh again, if you don't have if you don't have

2024
01:46:55,120 --> 01:46:57,320
Speaker 7: Jamar Chase, if you don't have Justin Jefferson, if you

2025
01:46:57,320 --> 01:46:59,559
Speaker 7: don't have some of these top guys, but you've got

2026
01:46:59,560 --> 01:47:02,040
Speaker 7: a good like the Colts have got, you can make

2027
01:47:02,080 --> 01:47:05,920
Speaker 7: it work and not just make it work, but excel.

2028
01:47:06,080 --> 01:47:09,200
Speaker 7: So it's it's just you're just not fortunate to get

2029
01:47:09,320 --> 01:47:12,320
Speaker 7: the top three or four or five guys.

2030
01:47:11,960 --> 01:47:14,160
Speaker 2: And then they give you four more quarterbacks here, Chap,

2031
01:47:14,200 --> 01:47:21,439
Speaker 2: you're ready. Jordan Love, Yeah, you're saying Love's better? Yes, Okay,

2032
01:47:21,960 --> 01:47:25,439
Speaker 2: Rock Purdy, I've.

2033
01:47:25,280 --> 01:47:26,320
Speaker 7: Never liked Rock Purty.

2034
01:47:26,400 --> 01:47:32,200
Speaker 2: Okay, Jayden Daniels too small example size.

2035
01:47:32,000 --> 01:47:33,519
Speaker 1: Okay, Daniel Jones.

2036
01:47:35,840 --> 01:47:40,639
Speaker 7: No, no, only because although if Jones finishes the season,

2037
01:47:40,680 --> 01:47:43,000
Speaker 7: they're probably very similar.

2038
01:47:43,760 --> 01:47:43,960
Speaker 5: Right.

2039
01:47:44,680 --> 01:47:46,880
Speaker 7: But that but that that makes our point is you

2040
01:47:46,880 --> 01:47:50,799
Speaker 7: could you can be pretty good with that guy. Again,

2041
01:47:50,920 --> 01:47:54,840
Speaker 7: if I remember one thing Chris Baller told us in January, says,

2042
01:47:54,880 --> 01:47:57,800
Speaker 7: what you're always chasing quarterbacks? You know, it sort of

2043
01:47:57,840 --> 01:48:02,160
Speaker 7: hampers everything you do. But until you get that quarterback right,

2044
01:48:02,560 --> 01:48:06,080
Speaker 7: your margin of air is so small, you know. And

2045
01:48:06,160 --> 01:48:08,240
Speaker 7: I go back to the extreme with Peyton Manning and

2046
01:48:08,240 --> 01:48:11,600
Speaker 7: the great the great the eracer, where you know, no

2047
01:48:12,040 --> 01:48:14,120
Speaker 7: lead is safe and all that stuff, and we saw

2048
01:48:14,120 --> 01:48:16,400
Speaker 7: that with Luck. It was so cool to see him

2049
01:48:17,400 --> 01:48:19,360
Speaker 7: in Frisco during the Super Bowl when he's I mean,

2050
01:48:19,560 --> 01:48:22,400
Speaker 7: I just kept thinking, man, this team would have won

2051
01:48:22,760 --> 01:48:25,800
Speaker 7: too minimum to Super Bowl with Andrew Luck. They would

2052
01:48:25,840 --> 01:48:30,400
Speaker 7: have h But that guy allows you to do so much.

2053
01:48:31,080 --> 01:48:33,400
Speaker 7: I don't think dard Will lets you do that, because

2054
01:48:33,439 --> 01:48:37,559
Speaker 7: I thought they determined very early in that game that

2055
01:48:37,600 --> 01:48:39,599
Speaker 7: it was going to be low scoring and as long

2056
01:48:39,640 --> 01:48:42,360
Speaker 7: as Seatle didn't turn the ball over, they weren't going

2057
01:48:42,439 --> 01:48:46,920
Speaker 7: to lose. So they sort of had him playing that way.

2058
01:48:47,560 --> 01:48:51,240
Speaker 7: But you know, maybe if the game had been thirty

2059
01:48:51,280 --> 01:48:53,799
Speaker 7: eight thirty and he did. He had some great shootouts

2060
01:48:53,840 --> 01:48:57,040
Speaker 7: with the ramsh He's capable. But it's so important for

2061
01:48:57,080 --> 01:49:01,200
Speaker 7: the quarterback to understand what the game is. Philip rivers

2062
01:49:01,240 --> 01:49:04,680
Speaker 7: against the Seahawks near the end of the season. You know,

2063
01:49:04,720 --> 01:49:07,760
Speaker 7: don't do any stupid take care of the ball, and

2064
01:49:07,840 --> 01:49:10,160
Speaker 7: before you know it a sixteen fifteen in your position

2065
01:49:10,200 --> 01:49:14,400
Speaker 7: to win. So but no, it's again darnold, it was

2066
01:49:14,439 --> 01:49:16,800
Speaker 7: great to see. I think that I see as the

2067
01:49:16,840 --> 01:49:20,520
Speaker 7: first quarterback to win a Super Bowl with his fifteam

2068
01:49:21,640 --> 01:49:28,680
Speaker 7: at being on his fiftheam. That's why everybody has expectations

2069
01:49:28,720 --> 01:49:33,240
Speaker 7: of Daniel Jones. I'm not saying super Bowl, but I'm

2070
01:49:33,280 --> 01:49:37,519
Speaker 7: saying being good enough to get you on the doorstep

2071
01:49:37,560 --> 01:49:41,720
Speaker 7: of doing something whatever that's something is because again I

2072
01:49:42,040 --> 01:49:45,880
Speaker 7: go back to win. What I was most optimistic about

2073
01:49:45,920 --> 01:49:50,439
Speaker 7: the Jones until the injury was that he didn't do

2074
01:49:50,520 --> 01:49:54,240
Speaker 7: anything super off the charts. You know, I can't believe

2075
01:49:54,280 --> 01:49:57,559
Speaker 7: he made he did He was just playing his game

2076
01:49:59,080 --> 01:50:01,200
Speaker 7: and let he up the team around him to do

2077
01:50:01,240 --> 01:50:03,960
Speaker 7: its job. That's when we saw that. That's when Tyler

2078
01:50:04,000 --> 01:50:07,200
Speaker 7: Warren was so effective. And then once Jones went out,

2079
01:50:07,400 --> 01:50:11,960
Speaker 7: Tyler Warren became just a guy. Uh and talking about

2080
01:50:11,960 --> 01:50:15,759
Speaker 7: me and just a guy. Once Jones went out, Jonathan

2081
01:50:15,800 --> 01:50:19,599
Speaker 7: Taylor turned into you know, just a guy. I mean

2082
01:50:19,680 --> 01:50:22,559
Speaker 7: he averaged I mean, he he awas like half as

2083
01:50:22,600 --> 01:50:26,519
Speaker 7: much yards, like three point three a carry, And that's

2084
01:50:26,560 --> 01:50:28,880
Speaker 7: all related to the quarterback and what it didn't what

2085
01:50:29,720 --> 01:50:32,760
Speaker 7: that didn't allow you to do so. No, but back

2086
01:50:32,840 --> 01:50:36,040
Speaker 7: back to what you mentioned. That Seattle is what the

2087
01:50:36,040 --> 01:50:41,599
Speaker 7: Colts the blueprint they they had going into the season

2088
01:50:41,680 --> 01:50:43,720
Speaker 7: until Jones got hurt. So I think that's I say,

2089
01:50:43,760 --> 01:50:47,400
Speaker 7: there's a reason for optimism if if Jones comes back

2090
01:50:47,439 --> 01:50:49,960
Speaker 7: from that that Kelly, which by all cants he will.

2091
01:50:50,000 --> 01:50:53,080
Speaker 2: I guess, chap let me throw something to you. Mike

2092
01:50:53,160 --> 01:50:55,400
Speaker 2: Chapel's my guest job, a house pill and port guest line.

2093
01:50:55,400 --> 01:50:58,120
Speaker 2: He is with CBS four and w x A and

2094
01:50:58,160 --> 01:51:00,800
Speaker 2: Fox fifty nine. I'm gonna throw you something that I

2095
01:51:00,880 --> 01:51:03,720
Speaker 2: mentioned to Kevin and Bowen at the end of the week.

2096
01:51:03,840 --> 01:51:07,240
Speaker 2: And once you get done laughing at my absurdity, I

2097
01:51:07,280 --> 01:51:10,040
Speaker 2: want you to then chime in, Okay.

2098
01:51:10,360 --> 01:51:12,920
Speaker 7: Sure, I'm used to laughing last and get your observany

2099
01:51:12,960 --> 01:51:13,599
Speaker 7: yeah aware.

2100
01:51:13,720 --> 01:51:14,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2101
01:51:14,720 --> 01:51:21,240
Speaker 2: So a year ago, Minnesota had on its roster JJ McCarthy,

2102
01:51:21,400 --> 01:51:24,400
Speaker 2: young quarterback that they believe has a lot of promise,

2103
01:51:25,040 --> 01:51:28,839
Speaker 2: Sam Donald and Daniel Jones. Sam Donald goes to Seattle

2104
01:51:28,880 --> 01:51:31,720
Speaker 2: wins the Super Bowl. Daniel Jones goes to Indianapolis and

2105
01:51:32,240 --> 01:51:33,880
Speaker 2: gets off to a great start pre injury.

2106
01:51:34,960 --> 01:51:38,400
Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy struggles Minnesota.

2107
01:51:38,479 --> 01:51:40,360
Speaker 2: Now I'm not saying that he's the end all, be

2108
01:51:40,479 --> 01:51:44,160
Speaker 2: all decision maker, but they have influence within their front

2109
01:51:44,200 --> 01:51:47,960
Speaker 2: office from Ryan Grigson, who I don't know this, but

2110
01:51:48,000 --> 01:51:52,400
Speaker 2: I would speculate probably would get a wrinkle to his

2111
01:51:52,439 --> 01:51:54,599
Speaker 2: smile if he were to do something that makes life

2112
01:51:54,600 --> 01:51:58,720
Speaker 2: more difficult for Chris Ballard. Is there any chance we

2113
01:51:58,920 --> 01:52:02,360
Speaker 2: consider it a four on conclusion that Daniel Jones will

2114
01:52:02,400 --> 01:52:04,200
Speaker 2: be the starting quarterback for the Colts next year? And

2115
01:52:04,240 --> 01:52:08,240
Speaker 2: I know he's coming off injury, which creates question, but

2116
01:52:08,320 --> 01:52:12,479
Speaker 2: he's familiar also with Minnesota's doctors and Minnesota's building and

2117
01:52:12,560 --> 01:52:17,840
Speaker 2: Minnesota's scheme. Is there any chance that Minnesota's the one

2118
01:52:17,880 --> 01:52:20,400
Speaker 2: franchise that says, you know what everybody thinks, it's a

2119
01:52:20,400 --> 01:52:23,160
Speaker 2: foregone conclusion. We think our young kid might be able

2120
01:52:23,200 --> 01:52:26,680
Speaker 2: to gain by learning for another year. Let's go out

2121
01:52:26,720 --> 01:52:30,240
Speaker 2: and get Daniel Jones, because we saw what you're able

2122
01:52:30,320 --> 01:52:34,000
Speaker 2: to do with Sam Darnold in Seattle. Daniel Jones can

2123
01:52:34,040 --> 01:52:36,080
Speaker 2: be that guy for us here in Minnesota.

2124
01:52:38,280 --> 01:52:41,200
Speaker 7: I'm not laughing. It's just not going to happen because

2125
01:52:41,680 --> 01:52:43,880
Speaker 7: the Cults were never let Jones get to the market.

2126
01:52:44,040 --> 01:52:46,000
Speaker 1: Do you believe that they would franchise tag him at

2127
01:52:46,040 --> 01:52:46,719
Speaker 1: forty two million.

2128
01:52:48,360 --> 01:52:51,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't think it'll get to that, but yes, okay,

2129
01:52:51,560 --> 01:52:53,519
Speaker 7: and is the same thing with Alec Pearce. They're not

2130
01:52:53,520 --> 01:52:56,679
Speaker 7: going to let him sniff the open market. Maybe I'm

2131
01:52:56,680 --> 01:52:59,719
Speaker 7: just saying Mars with Pierceman. No, they'll get both those

2132
01:52:59,720 --> 01:53:02,880
Speaker 7: done because there's really no plan B to.

2133
01:53:03,000 --> 01:53:06,679
Speaker 2: Not get done, which makes me wonder if that doesn't

2134
01:53:06,760 --> 01:53:09,840
Speaker 2: more incentivize getting him. And I know that sounds crazy.

2135
01:53:10,479 --> 01:53:14,240
Speaker 7: Well, but again it's it's I understand that teams tamper,

2136
01:53:14,280 --> 01:53:18,519
Speaker 7: they do and and and they'll there could be some

2137
01:53:18,600 --> 01:53:22,719
Speaker 7: kind of contact somewhere with the Vikings with Jones and

2138
01:53:23,479 --> 01:53:26,880
Speaker 7: you know, agents and all this stuff. But the Colts

2139
01:53:26,920 --> 01:53:29,040
Speaker 7: are going to get something Dovil Jones And the only

2140
01:53:29,120 --> 01:53:31,880
Speaker 7: question is what it's going to be. You know what

2141
01:53:32,040 --> 01:53:35,080
Speaker 7: one website called looks at a forty three million dollars

2142
01:53:35,120 --> 01:53:40,200
Speaker 7: a year contract, and one guy has to know it's

2143
01:53:40,280 --> 01:53:43,080
Speaker 7: like at the Sam Darnald number, three years, one hundred

2144
01:53:43,120 --> 01:53:46,200
Speaker 7: million dollars. All that's going to matter is I mentioned

2145
01:53:46,200 --> 01:53:48,640
Speaker 7: that the story is a guaranteed money, And to me,

2146
01:53:48,720 --> 01:53:51,320
Speaker 7: the guaranteed money starts with what the franchise tag is.

2147
01:53:51,320 --> 01:53:54,840
Speaker 7: That was it forty is it forty seven million? I've

2148
01:53:54,880 --> 01:53:58,200
Speaker 7: got it written down somewhere. So whatever whatever the franchise

2149
01:53:58,280 --> 01:54:01,600
Speaker 7: number is, in my mind, I from that's my guarantee.

2150
01:54:01,640 --> 01:54:04,479
Speaker 7: That that's that's where we start talking guaranteed money. The

2151
01:54:04,520 --> 01:54:08,439
Speaker 7: rest of the money is just it's just window addressing.

2152
01:54:08,520 --> 01:54:10,439
Speaker 7: It doesn't mean because they can walk away from it.

2153
01:54:11,160 --> 01:54:14,800
Speaker 7: But I just I don't see anyway that that that

2154
01:54:15,080 --> 01:54:19,120
Speaker 7: Jones has a chance to to talk to another team,

2155
01:54:19,479 --> 01:54:22,160
Speaker 7: And I see no chance that Pierce has a chance.

2156
01:54:22,160 --> 01:54:25,240
Speaker 7: I talked to another team. Can you imagine alk Pierce

2157
01:54:25,320 --> 01:54:28,280
Speaker 7: on the open market and Buffalo says, yeah, we'll give

2158
01:54:28,280 --> 01:54:31,840
Speaker 7: you thirty mil yeah, or more or more Kansas City.

2159
01:54:32,600 --> 01:54:35,440
Speaker 7: So that's and when the general manager comes out in

2160
01:54:35,480 --> 01:54:38,520
Speaker 7: January and says, yeah, these are these are priorities, Well

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01:54:38,560 --> 01:54:42,280
Speaker 7: that that's that's GM speak by you know, for we're

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01:54:42,280 --> 01:54:45,600
Speaker 7: going to get it done. And uh again, I think

2163
01:54:45,640 --> 01:54:50,440
Speaker 7: the fact that Jones uh fit well here and that

2164
01:54:50,640 --> 01:54:54,720
Speaker 7: the Colts gave him a chance and it worked. Uh,

2165
01:54:55,120 --> 01:54:58,120
Speaker 7: I'll tell you how about instead of Jones going to

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01:54:58,200 --> 01:55:02,040
Speaker 7: Minnesota and to I mean Richardson goes to Minnesota. That

2167
01:55:02,400 --> 01:55:06,000
Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, I just I don't see any way

2168
01:55:06,160 --> 01:55:11,280
Speaker 7: that Ar is back here next year, which would almost.

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01:55:11,240 --> 01:55:13,800
Speaker 2: Do you think the Colts are comfortable going with Riley

2170
01:55:13,880 --> 01:55:17,280
Speaker 2: Leonard to start the year if Jones is not available.

2171
01:55:18,080 --> 01:55:20,240
Speaker 7: Yes, but they could. You know, they can always sign

2172
01:55:20,280 --> 01:55:23,280
Speaker 7: another veteran if they want, and there'll be that guy

2173
01:55:23,320 --> 01:55:23,720
Speaker 7: out there.

2174
01:55:24,000 --> 01:55:27,200
Speaker 2: The Mariota's Josh McCown becomes available, and you.

2175
01:55:27,120 --> 01:55:31,800
Speaker 7: Know, yeah, not a Mac Jones. If they make a

2176
01:55:31,800 --> 01:55:34,440
Speaker 7: trade for a Mac Jones, that would tell me that

2177
01:55:34,440 --> 01:55:39,480
Speaker 7: that Daniel Jones's achilles isn't isn't, you know, progressing the

2178
01:55:39,480 --> 01:55:41,360
Speaker 7: way they want it to. But there'll be a third

2179
01:55:41,440 --> 01:55:44,160
Speaker 7: quarterback here. I don't think they'll be Richison. I just

2180
01:55:44,200 --> 01:55:48,160
Speaker 7: don't think you talk about Jones being a fit. Ar

2181
01:55:48,280 --> 01:55:52,840
Speaker 7: is not a fit in what Psyching wants to do. Again,

2182
01:55:52,920 --> 01:55:56,280
Speaker 7: the Colts have got twelve or thirteen free agents. Many

2183
01:55:56,320 --> 01:55:59,160
Speaker 7: of them won't be back here, but I will be

2184
01:55:59,160 --> 01:56:03,760
Speaker 7: beyond shock, beyond shocked if Jones and Pierce get the

2185
01:56:03,880 --> 01:56:05,200
Speaker 7: chance of sniff free agency.

2186
01:56:05,680 --> 01:56:08,040
Speaker 2: Do you believe Richardson Let's say he goes to Minnesota,

2187
01:56:09,240 --> 01:56:12,480
Speaker 2: does he become a player? Chap Sometimes you mentioned Alex Smith.

2188
01:56:13,040 --> 01:56:16,040
Speaker 2: I think Alex Smith was a really darn good NFL quarterback,

2189
01:56:16,080 --> 01:56:18,920
Speaker 2: and unfortunately people get judged based on how and where

2190
01:56:18,920 --> 01:56:20,680
Speaker 2: they were acquired him because he was a number one

2191
01:56:20,720 --> 01:56:21,360
Speaker 2: overall pick.

2192
01:56:21,600 --> 01:56:23,640
Speaker 1: People go, ah, he's a disappointment. Well not really.

2193
01:56:23,680 --> 01:56:26,080
Speaker 2: He was really a good quarterback for Kansas City and Washington.

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01:56:26,360 --> 01:56:29,640
Speaker 2: Can Richardson be that guy?

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01:56:30,000 --> 01:56:33,600
Speaker 7: In a yes or no world, I'd say no. I

2196
01:56:33,760 --> 01:56:40,760
Speaker 7: just haven't seen the level of commitment that you need

2197
01:56:40,880 --> 01:56:44,120
Speaker 7: at that position. Maybe that's unfair, I don't know, but

2198
01:56:44,680 --> 01:56:49,800
Speaker 7: there is. And again, I'm so numbed to the position

2199
01:56:49,880 --> 01:56:52,440
Speaker 7: from the way Peyton approached it, from the way Andrew

2200
01:56:52,520 --> 01:56:56,240
Speaker 7: Luck approached it, and all the really really good quarterbacks.

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01:56:56,000 --> 01:56:58,840
Speaker 7: It's twenty four to seven and that's what we heard

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01:56:58,880 --> 01:56:59,760
Speaker 7: about Jones too.

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01:57:00,880 --> 01:57:01,120
Speaker 5: Uh.

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01:57:01,560 --> 01:57:05,440
Speaker 7: And I just people can change. I'm not sure a

2205
01:57:05,520 --> 01:57:10,919
Speaker 7: high level athlete like that changes that much their approach.

2206
01:57:11,840 --> 01:57:14,960
Speaker 7: You know, I remember when who was Reggie Miller left

2207
01:57:15,360 --> 01:57:18,640
Speaker 7: the Pacers and then wasn't. Tremaine O'Neil is supposed to

2208
01:57:18,680 --> 01:57:21,520
Speaker 7: be the leader correct of the team, and man, you

2209
01:57:21,600 --> 01:57:24,400
Speaker 7: just can't make people leaders. You just you can't. You

2210
01:57:24,400 --> 01:57:26,120
Speaker 7: can't put them in a position to lead to a

2211
01:57:26,120 --> 01:57:29,640
Speaker 7: good leader. You're our main player. I hope, I hope

2212
01:57:29,640 --> 01:57:33,000
Speaker 7: it works out for him because you're a good kid's

2213
01:57:33,000 --> 01:57:36,800
Speaker 7: a good young man. I just don't think the light

2214
01:57:36,880 --> 01:57:38,680
Speaker 7: goes on. I just don't. I hope it does, I

2215
01:57:38,680 --> 01:57:39,400
Speaker 7: don't think it does.

2216
01:57:40,160 --> 01:57:43,160
Speaker 2: Mike Chapel, CBS four and w x I, N Fox

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01:57:43,400 --> 01:57:46,880
Speaker 2: fifty nine. H chap last thing before we let you go,

2218
01:57:46,920 --> 01:57:49,640
Speaker 2: I did want to touch on this, and I apologize.

2219
01:57:49,680 --> 01:57:52,040
Speaker 2: I can't recall if we had you right after. I

2220
01:57:52,080 --> 01:57:54,080
Speaker 2: don't think we had you Friday. And I know you

2221
01:57:54,160 --> 01:57:57,120
Speaker 2: might have talked with John about this, but Reggie Wayne

2222
01:57:57,200 --> 01:57:59,720
Speaker 2: not getting into the Hall of Fame is one thing.

2223
01:58:00,760 --> 01:58:03,240
Speaker 2: Now it becomes more difficult because of those that will

2224
01:58:03,280 --> 01:58:06,360
Speaker 2: also be in the pool for next year. But most importantly,

2225
01:58:07,120 --> 01:58:10,280
Speaker 2: you said he was not in the final five? Is

2226
01:58:10,320 --> 01:58:11,480
Speaker 2: that correct? Or ten?

2227
01:58:11,840 --> 01:58:14,000
Speaker 7: He didn't make the cut from fifteen to ten.

2228
01:58:15,160 --> 01:58:17,880
Speaker 1: When they is there?

2229
01:58:18,120 --> 01:58:21,800
Speaker 2: And my apologies for forgetting this. Is there a minimum

2230
01:58:21,880 --> 01:58:24,120
Speaker 2: or maximum number that you can put in once they

2231
01:58:24,120 --> 01:58:25,160
Speaker 2: get down to the final ten?

2232
01:58:26,720 --> 01:58:29,400
Speaker 7: Well, we go from fifteen to ten and from ten

2233
01:58:29,480 --> 01:58:34,640
Speaker 7: to seven, and then we vote on five and the

2234
01:58:35,400 --> 01:58:38,040
Speaker 7: you need eighty percent to get in, so.

2235
01:58:38,000 --> 01:58:41,000
Speaker 2: You still so it's not who Okay? This is where

2236
01:58:41,040 --> 01:58:41,680
Speaker 2: I got confused.

2237
01:58:42,240 --> 01:58:46,240
Speaker 7: Okay, it gets convoluted in the weeds. The top three

2238
01:58:46,320 --> 01:58:50,880
Speaker 7: vote getters of modern era get in, So three of

2239
01:58:50,920 --> 01:58:53,080
Speaker 7: those five or three of those seven will get.

2240
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Speaker 2: In regardless, even if the highest one has forty eight percent.

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01:58:56,400 --> 01:59:00,480
Speaker 7: It could be seventy five percent. Yeah, and then for

2242
01:59:00,520 --> 01:59:02,560
Speaker 7: a fourth got to get in like we did this year,

2243
01:59:03,320 --> 01:59:07,840
Speaker 7: he needs eighty percent, So gotcha, okay, And it's it's

2244
01:59:07,880 --> 01:59:12,360
Speaker 7: just it's I feel Reggie's frustration. We talk all the time,

2245
01:59:12,440 --> 01:59:16,760
Speaker 7: and he and Tory Holt are in the same boat,

2246
01:59:18,080 --> 01:59:21,720
Speaker 7: just Hall of Fame worthy numbers that for some reason

2247
01:59:21,800 --> 01:59:25,200
Speaker 7: nationally people just don't appreciate what Reggie.

2248
01:59:25,320 --> 01:59:26,160
Speaker 1: What Reggie was.

2249
01:59:26,200 --> 01:59:29,520
Speaker 2: You worried whether or not I mean you, I mean

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01:59:29,560 --> 01:59:32,560
Speaker 2: we in general, we worried that there was going to

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01:59:32,600 --> 01:59:37,840
Speaker 2: be a player that was eventually going to be excuse me,

2252
01:59:38,040 --> 01:59:41,800
Speaker 2: going to be demerited because of the perception that Peyton

2253
01:59:41,800 --> 01:59:45,160
Speaker 2: Manning lifted them. And that's absurd to think that of

2254
01:59:45,200 --> 01:59:49,640
Speaker 2: Reggie Wayne, because of how he reinvented himself and extended

2255
01:59:50,200 --> 01:59:53,000
Speaker 2: by playing almost a different kind of receiver for Andrew

2256
01:59:53,080 --> 01:59:56,720
Speaker 2: Luck and being very very very good and having you know,

2257
01:59:56,760 --> 01:59:59,680
Speaker 2: an unbelievable season that first year with Luck and et cetera.

2258
01:59:59,760 --> 02:00:03,520
Speaker 2: But for whatever reason, it feels like Reggie Wayne is

2259
02:00:03,560 --> 02:00:07,000
Speaker 2: the one that the football gods selected to be held.

2260
02:00:06,800 --> 02:00:09,880
Speaker 1: Back by that aspect, which is unfair.

2261
02:00:09,520 --> 02:00:11,080
Speaker 7: No question, it's unfair.

2262
02:00:11,760 --> 02:00:12,040
Speaker 4: Uh.

2263
02:00:12,080 --> 02:00:14,720
Speaker 7: You know, Michael Leervan had Troy Aikman, and Andre Reid

2264
02:00:14,840 --> 02:00:17,640
Speaker 7: had Jim Kelly, and you know Jerry Rice had had

2265
02:00:17,680 --> 02:00:19,520
Speaker 7: a couple of pretty good quarterbacks as well.

2266
02:00:19,760 --> 02:00:23,120
Speaker 1: Is John Taylor in no okay?

2267
02:00:23,800 --> 02:00:27,800
Speaker 7: No, So so you can you know, Swan and Stalwarts

2268
02:00:28,080 --> 02:00:31,400
Speaker 7: are and that's a different story altogether, because together I

2269
02:00:31,400 --> 02:00:35,160
Speaker 7: don't think they've got Reggie's numbers. But but yeah, and

2270
02:00:35,600 --> 02:00:39,160
Speaker 7: then too, it's it's it's well, they they've got so

2271
02:00:39,240 --> 02:00:42,800
Speaker 7: many guys from that the two thousands from that team

2272
02:00:42,960 --> 02:00:46,160
Speaker 7: in the Hall of Fame with Dungee and Pollion and

2273
02:00:46,240 --> 02:00:49,240
Speaker 7: Peyton and Edward and Marvin and Freedy and me and

2274
02:00:49,240 --> 02:00:51,320
Speaker 7: the only guys won one super Bowl. Well that's not

2275
02:00:51,440 --> 02:00:56,600
Speaker 7: Reggie's fault, right, So yeah, I I'm afraid there's some

2276
02:00:56,760 --> 02:01:02,800
Speaker 7: of that. Uh. But again, I I just I understand

2277
02:01:02,880 --> 02:01:05,720
Speaker 7: and I've seen Regi's frustration to where he's just about

2278
02:01:05,960 --> 02:01:09,000
Speaker 7: telling the Hall of Fame to go flya kite, and

2279
02:01:09,200 --> 02:01:11,120
Speaker 7: I urge him not to do that, because at least

2280
02:01:11,120 --> 02:01:14,120
Speaker 7: when you're still among the final fifteen, you're still in

2281
02:01:14,120 --> 02:01:17,800
Speaker 7: the conversation. And once once you're not in a conversation,

2282
02:01:18,720 --> 02:01:21,640
Speaker 7: people move on very quickly. So I hope it took.

2283
02:01:21,840 --> 02:01:26,440
Speaker 7: It took John Lynch, you know, the safety he was.

2284
02:01:26,560 --> 02:01:29,240
Speaker 7: It took him his ninth year as a finalist to

2285
02:01:29,320 --> 02:01:31,840
Speaker 7: get in. Edrin got in after six years. I think

2286
02:01:31,840 --> 02:01:34,880
Speaker 7: it was so you know, people have waited longer. But

2287
02:01:36,360 --> 02:01:38,920
Speaker 7: it's just frustrating when I see people get in that

2288
02:01:39,000 --> 02:01:42,080
Speaker 7: I don't agree with. And that's why we have fifty

2289
02:01:42,080 --> 02:01:45,720
Speaker 7: guys and people can bitch and moan about the process.

2290
02:01:45,760 --> 02:01:49,560
Speaker 7: All they wanted to come up with a better, a

2291
02:01:49,600 --> 02:01:52,400
Speaker 7: better way of doing it. And Deon Sanders said only

2292
02:01:52,440 --> 02:01:56,240
Speaker 7: Hall of Fame players should vote for this. He's so stupid.

2293
02:01:56,600 --> 02:01:59,520
Speaker 7: That is just crazy. He's the one that was bitching

2294
02:01:59,520 --> 02:02:01,840
Speaker 7: that to many people are getting in and they should

2295
02:02:01,840 --> 02:02:06,640
Speaker 7: have different colors of gold. His should be the brightest gold.

2296
02:02:06,880 --> 02:02:11,640
Speaker 7: Give me a break. No, I know, I know he

2297
02:02:12,000 --> 02:02:16,280
Speaker 7: wears me out, but I worry about reg. I just

2298
02:02:16,400 --> 02:02:18,720
Speaker 7: know that he's a Hall of Fame receiver. I know

2299
02:02:18,800 --> 02:02:21,400
Speaker 7: he is. I go back to when we put in

2300
02:02:21,520 --> 02:02:25,000
Speaker 7: Andre Johnson ahead of him. That's wrong. It's still wrong,

2301
02:02:26,080 --> 02:02:29,680
Speaker 7: and that really hurt Reggie and Tory Holt. I always

2302
02:02:29,680 --> 02:02:32,000
Speaker 7: bring Tory Holt because he's in that group as well.

2303
02:02:32,160 --> 02:02:34,240
Speaker 1: Great player, great player, and he did know.

2304
02:02:34,400 --> 02:02:36,560
Speaker 2: I know Tory Holt's the same way Chap in the

2305
02:02:36,560 --> 02:02:38,200
Speaker 2: fact that he had Kurt Warner and then if you

2306
02:02:38,240 --> 02:02:40,040
Speaker 2: really look at you can say that. But look, he

2307
02:02:40,200 --> 02:02:42,480
Speaker 2: was as good a receiver, if not better, with Mark

2308
02:02:42,520 --> 02:02:44,200
Speaker 2: Bulger throwing in the ball, So you.

2309
02:02:44,120 --> 02:02:47,280
Speaker 7: Know that that's you know, and Ritchie had one of

2310
02:02:47,320 --> 02:02:51,000
Speaker 7: his best seasons when he was thirty four with Andrew Lucky,

2311
02:02:51,160 --> 02:02:54,240
Speaker 7: like was it one hundred and some catches and thirteen

2312
02:02:54,600 --> 02:02:57,360
Speaker 7: and forty five yards And he's the only player in

2313
02:02:57,400 --> 02:03:00,760
Speaker 7: league history that to have those numbers, like one hundred

2314
02:03:00,800 --> 02:03:03,920
Speaker 7: cadges in thirteen hundred and fifty yards at age thirty four.

2315
02:03:04,800 --> 02:03:08,040
Speaker 7: So he didn't tail off until at the Inland injuries,

2316
02:03:08,680 --> 02:03:13,080
Speaker 7: you know, started petting away at him. But he needs

2317
02:03:13,080 --> 02:03:16,600
Speaker 7: to get in and the way that we're doing things

2318
02:03:16,600 --> 02:03:21,080
Speaker 7: now makes it hard. Unless sure Drew Brees and Larry

2319
02:03:21,080 --> 02:03:24,760
Speaker 7: Fitzgerald and coming up, we're going to have other top guys.

2320
02:03:24,840 --> 02:03:27,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, there are others around the corner and that's that's

2321
02:03:27,680 --> 02:03:29,960
Speaker 2: what's going to make it interesting. But we shall see.

2322
02:03:29,960 --> 02:03:31,840
Speaker 2: Maybe you know, maybe he goes to Roger Craig route,

2323
02:03:31,840 --> 02:03:36,400
Speaker 2: but we'll see. Chap appreciate the time as always, and

2324
02:03:36,440 --> 02:03:38,480
Speaker 2: we will continue to look at quarterbacks and try to

2325
02:03:38,480 --> 02:03:40,280
Speaker 2: figure out where Sam Darnold is. But I think eight

2326
02:03:40,320 --> 02:03:42,560
Speaker 2: to twelve is ten to fifteen something like that and

2327
02:03:42,600 --> 02:03:43,360
Speaker 2: that slide area.

2328
02:03:43,800 --> 02:03:45,520
Speaker 1: Chap I appreciate the time as always.

2329
02:03:45,880 --> 02:03:48,240
Speaker 2: Stay well by all right, Mike Chapel joining US CBS

2330
02:03:48,280 --> 02:03:50,680
Speaker 2: four and w XI in Fox at fifty nine. All right,

2331
02:03:50,680 --> 02:03:53,600
Speaker 2: back into it from a round ball standpoint, and what

2332
02:03:53,760 --> 02:03:56,839
Speaker 2: is on docket for tomorrow In terms of that discussion,

2333
02:03:56,880 --> 02:04:01,160
Speaker 2: we'll tell you about that next Indiana winners over Wisconsin

2334
02:04:01,640 --> 02:04:04,800
Speaker 2: over the weekend, Purdue with one that probably was more

2335
02:04:06,240 --> 02:04:08,480
Speaker 2: tight than it should be against Oregon. Something's going on

2336
02:04:08,520 --> 02:04:11,000
Speaker 2: with Purdue. And tomorrow we're going to talk with Andy

2337
02:04:11,080 --> 02:04:14,760
Speaker 2: Kendy from Buddy Mine, who works television over in Omaha

2338
02:04:14,920 --> 02:04:16,640
Speaker 2: and covers Nebraska very closely.

2339
02:04:17,920 --> 02:04:22,280
Speaker 1: What's that? Where Amaha? There you go? Is that better?

2340
02:04:22,480 --> 02:04:22,960
Speaker 1: That's better?

2341
02:04:23,120 --> 02:04:23,440
Speaker 4: Thank you?

2342
02:04:25,400 --> 02:04:28,839
Speaker 2: Andy will join us to preview Nebraska and Purdue in Nebraska.

2343
02:04:28,880 --> 02:04:33,800
Speaker 2: What Fred Hoiberg's done is obviously impressive, and Purdue has

2344
02:04:33,960 --> 02:04:36,560
Speaker 2: all the talent and experience in the world. But something's

2345
02:04:36,560 --> 02:04:38,920
Speaker 2: going on with them, whether it be defensively, whether it

2346
02:04:38,960 --> 02:04:42,000
Speaker 2: be chemistry. There's a lot of talk about that. I

2347
02:04:42,000 --> 02:04:47,480
Speaker 2: saw Raphael Davis said they have no leadership. Is that

2348
02:04:47,520 --> 02:04:50,480
Speaker 2: Matt Painter, is that the veterans? Is it just the

2349
02:04:51,040 --> 02:04:53,640
Speaker 2: as we talked about last week. Somebody mentioned to me, Hey, Jake,

2350
02:04:53,960 --> 02:04:57,040
Speaker 2: you know it's tough. You play with guys for a

2351
02:04:57,080 --> 02:04:59,560
Speaker 2: long time together, it becomes tough because teams figure out

2352
02:04:59,560 --> 02:05:01,960
Speaker 2: how to guard you. What you know, there's plenty of

2353
02:05:01,960 --> 02:05:05,920
Speaker 2: tape on Purdue, no doubt about that. Pacers will get

2354
02:05:05,920 --> 02:05:09,800
Speaker 2: the latest. Should know by tomorrow the extent of the

2355
02:05:09,840 --> 02:05:13,240
Speaker 2: injury to Johnny Furfey, which again I totally understand whether

2356
02:05:13,320 --> 02:05:16,960
Speaker 2: people are like dude, he's the twelfth guy. Well, this

2357
02:05:17,080 --> 02:05:22,120
Speaker 2: year has been about development, development for Ben Matherin, development

2358
02:05:22,160 --> 02:05:25,520
Speaker 2: for Jeris Walker, development for Johnny Furfey, development for that matter,

2359
02:05:25,600 --> 02:05:28,960
Speaker 2: Cam Jones, Taylor, Peter mathern Obviously you see now out

2360
02:05:28,960 --> 02:05:32,080
Speaker 2: of the mix. Now it becomes about the acclamation for

2361
02:05:32,240 --> 02:05:36,760
Speaker 2: Zubats and then seeing where you are on the wings

2362
02:05:36,800 --> 02:05:38,760
Speaker 2: and This will mean even more time for Jaris Walker,

2363
02:05:38,800 --> 02:05:40,720
Speaker 2: which is good because I think he started to figure

2364
02:05:40,720 --> 02:05:43,080
Speaker 2: it out a little bit and Furfey was just starting

2365
02:05:43,480 --> 02:05:47,280
Speaker 2: to get introduction on some of the things he could

2366
02:05:47,280 --> 02:05:49,920
Speaker 2: be as a player. So it'd be great to have

2367
02:05:50,000 --> 02:05:52,680
Speaker 2: him for the rest of the year to continue that time.

2368
02:05:52,800 --> 02:05:55,440
Speaker 2: But we'll see what his availability will be now, Eddie.

2369
02:05:56,040 --> 02:06:02,120
Speaker 2: The NBA today, Yes, the big report out there today

2370
02:06:02,320 --> 02:06:05,480
Speaker 2: is that Adam Silver and the NBA are prepared.

2371
02:06:06,520 --> 02:06:08,400
Speaker 1: To announce expansion.

2372
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Speaker 5: Right.

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02:06:09,440 --> 02:06:10,440
Speaker 3: I haven't seen.

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Speaker 2: This for two cities. Two cities, okay, those two? Would

2375
02:06:15,920 --> 02:06:18,280
Speaker 2: you like to guess without looking what two cities it would.

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02:06:18,040 --> 02:06:23,120
Speaker 3: Be as one of these cities had eighteen before, yes,

2377
02:06:24,320 --> 02:06:25,800
Speaker 3: did they just win the Super Bowl?

2378
02:06:25,880 --> 02:06:28,000
Speaker 1: This city okay? So Seattle yes?

2379
02:06:28,960 --> 02:06:35,480
Speaker 3: And Nashville no Vegas.

2380
02:06:35,160 --> 02:06:35,800
Speaker 1: Yes, Okay.

2381
02:06:35,840 --> 02:06:38,560
Speaker 2: I was trying to go off the beaten path, and

2382
02:06:38,880 --> 02:06:44,560
Speaker 2: Nashville goes back to you know, Nashville now would be

2383
02:06:44,560 --> 02:06:46,960
Speaker 2: the next I would think in the hopper. They already

2384
02:06:46,960 --> 02:06:48,680
Speaker 2: have an arena, it's right down you know, it's a

2385
02:06:48,720 --> 02:06:53,760
Speaker 2: cool city. It's a growing area. And if there's not

2386
02:06:54,400 --> 02:06:59,280
Speaker 2: expansion and rather relocation, I would think New Orleans and

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02:06:59,400 --> 02:07:02,400
Speaker 2: Charlotte would be the two that are most in Memphis.

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02:07:02,720 --> 02:07:05,840
Speaker 2: I could see Memphis going to Nashville. That would actually

2389
02:07:05,840 --> 02:07:06,600
Speaker 2: make some sense.

2390
02:07:07,120 --> 02:07:12,360
Speaker 3: Would they have to realign then, because if you're adding

2391
02:07:12,400 --> 02:07:17,240
Speaker 3: a team in Vegas and Seattle, presumably those would be

2392
02:07:17,280 --> 02:07:21,360
Speaker 3: two Western Conference teams? Right? So does do you move

2393
02:07:21,360 --> 02:07:23,000
Speaker 3: a team over to the Eastern Conference?

2394
02:07:23,400 --> 02:07:25,200
Speaker 1: Is it split right now? Fifty to fifty?

2395
02:07:25,800 --> 02:07:26,080
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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02:07:27,720 --> 02:07:27,880
Speaker 5: Is it?

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02:07:27,920 --> 02:07:32,680
Speaker 2: Sixteen and sixteen? Fifteen and fifteen are the thirty or

2398
02:07:32,680 --> 02:07:34,160
Speaker 2: thirty two teams? Thirty?

2399
02:07:34,480 --> 02:07:36,080
Speaker 1: Okay, so fifteen and fifteen.

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02:07:37,600 --> 02:07:39,960
Speaker 3: So would Memphis move over to the Eastern Conference? You

2401
02:07:40,000 --> 02:07:44,920
Speaker 3: would expect, or New Orleans or both. Well, you if

2402
02:07:44,960 --> 02:07:47,000
Speaker 3: you're adding two to the West, have to add to

2403
02:07:47,000 --> 02:07:49,640
Speaker 3: to Eastern. That probably makes more sense, is that Memphis?

2404
02:07:49,720 --> 02:07:54,800
Speaker 3: And or Minnesota? Minnesota, Oklahoma City? Yeah, any of those

2405
02:07:54,840 --> 02:08:00,040
Speaker 3: could come Denver the East maybe. I don't know, but

2406
02:08:00,200 --> 02:08:03,160
Speaker 3: I had worried for a long time about Indiana being

2407
02:08:03,160 --> 02:08:08,320
Speaker 3: a potential relocation only because and I think now that

2408
02:08:08,360 --> 02:08:13,800
Speaker 3: goes that was minimized greatly by the Simon family selling

2409
02:08:14,320 --> 02:08:17,080
Speaker 3: a percentage of their ownership stake to someone who then

2410
02:08:17,200 --> 02:08:21,800
Speaker 3: has right of purchase if need be, if the family

2411
02:08:21,800 --> 02:08:26,760
Speaker 3: decides to sell upon an inheritance, so that probably is

2412
02:08:26,800 --> 02:08:30,240
Speaker 3: now not as but I can rest assured that was

2413
02:08:30,280 --> 02:08:33,560
Speaker 3: something that I guarantee you people with much more clout

2414
02:08:33,600 --> 02:08:34,800
Speaker 3: than I have had that discussion.

2415
02:08:34,960 --> 02:08:37,760
Speaker 1: As matter of fact, I can promise you that, but.

2416
02:08:39,280 --> 02:08:43,800
Speaker 2: That I'm always happy when when I saw Vegas in Seattle,

2417
02:08:44,760 --> 02:08:47,720
Speaker 2: and I do think that Indiana, like the franchises that

2418
02:08:47,760 --> 02:08:51,280
Speaker 2: would be most in jeopardy of moving would probably be

2419
02:08:51,400 --> 02:08:53,360
Speaker 2: in no particular order, Charlotte.

2420
02:08:52,920 --> 02:08:54,520
Speaker 1: Memphis, New Orleans, those three.

2421
02:08:54,640 --> 02:08:57,760
Speaker 2: I would think New Orleans in particular because their population

2422
02:08:57,840 --> 02:09:01,360
Speaker 2: based unfortunately you know, has dwindled such and their fortune

2423
02:09:01,360 --> 02:09:02,760
Speaker 2: five hundred companies and et cetera.

2424
02:09:03,160 --> 02:09:04,600
Speaker 3: I do have a question to go back to your

2425
02:09:04,600 --> 02:09:07,320
Speaker 3: Purdue point and how Ray pel Davis is saying they're

2426
02:09:07,560 --> 02:09:08,640
Speaker 3: what they lack leadership?

2427
02:09:08,720 --> 02:09:09,480
Speaker 1: Correct.

2428
02:09:10,000 --> 02:09:12,040
Speaker 3: I kind of go back to that IU game at

2429
02:09:12,040 --> 02:09:15,400
Speaker 3: Assembly Hall and we were talking, you know, that Monday

2430
02:09:15,520 --> 02:09:18,320
Speaker 3: after the game. It was a Monday, right or was

2431
02:09:18,320 --> 02:09:21,640
Speaker 3: it a Wednesday, I can't remember, and we were just

2432
02:09:21,680 --> 02:09:26,080
Speaker 3: like that something looked off and all the players were like,

2433
02:09:26,520 --> 02:09:29,320
Speaker 3: you know, deferring to Brayden Smith to kind of bail

2434
02:09:29,360 --> 02:09:33,440
Speaker 3: him out. Could I'm not saying he is, but could

2435
02:09:33,600 --> 02:09:36,920
Speaker 3: Braiden Smith actually be the reasoning behind some of the

2436
02:09:38,320 --> 02:09:39,040
Speaker 3: play this year.

2437
02:09:39,160 --> 02:09:41,680
Speaker 1: Yes, like if he's being a.

2438
02:09:42,920 --> 02:09:47,160
Speaker 3: I don't know, a hole, as Pat Knight would put it, Yeah,

2439
02:09:47,160 --> 02:09:49,280
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean because obviously we're not there

2440
02:09:49,400 --> 02:09:52,960
Speaker 3: enough to know. But like I've seen some suggestions on

2441
02:09:53,040 --> 02:09:56,200
Speaker 3: Twitter that you know, Braden Smith could be the issue

2442
02:09:56,280 --> 02:09:58,320
Speaker 3: because it's the one player that we haven't really considered

2443
02:09:58,320 --> 02:09:58,720
Speaker 3: in all this.

2444
02:09:59,600 --> 02:10:03,480
Speaker 2: No, I think whenever, here's the bottom line. If you

2445
02:10:03,560 --> 02:10:07,320
Speaker 2: have a team that has chemistry problems or that thing

2446
02:10:07,480 --> 02:10:10,760
Speaker 2: that is simply underachieving or not running on all cylinders,

2447
02:10:11,360 --> 02:10:16,120
Speaker 2: typically the three people that you would look towards, in

2448
02:10:16,160 --> 02:10:19,360
Speaker 2: no particular order would be the head coach, the point guard,

2449
02:10:20,080 --> 02:10:22,480
Speaker 2: and a veteran leader. Well, Braden Smith is two of

2450
02:10:22,480 --> 02:10:27,960
Speaker 2: those three, so just by numbers alone, you would think

2451
02:10:28,000 --> 02:10:32,520
Speaker 2: that that would make him a potential culprit. Culprit's probably

2452
02:10:32,520 --> 02:10:35,400
Speaker 2: the wrong word, and I don't think that it's to

2453
02:10:35,480 --> 02:10:37,320
Speaker 2: use Pat Knight's term. I don't know that it's to

2454
02:10:37,400 --> 02:10:41,960
Speaker 2: that extreme, but just is there. It may well be

2455
02:10:42,120 --> 02:10:47,400
Speaker 2: also Eddie that Braden Smith gets players involved and other

2456
02:10:47,440 --> 02:10:51,600
Speaker 2: guys are not happy with where he prioritizes sending the basketball.

2457
02:10:51,640 --> 02:10:53,960
Speaker 2: I mean, there's any number of different things that.

2458
02:10:53,880 --> 02:10:55,000
Speaker 1: You can look towards.

2459
02:10:55,680 --> 02:10:57,800
Speaker 2: I did see John in the building earlier. We'll do

2460
02:10:57,840 --> 02:10:59,440
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2464
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Speaker 1: And we'll see what John has lined up. We'll do

2465
02:11:09,760 --> 02:11:11,760
Speaker 1: it next, Eddie.

2466
02:11:11,760 --> 02:11:13,680
Speaker 2: I don't know that we ever to use a radio

2467
02:11:13,760 --> 02:11:16,800
Speaker 2: term paid off the teas, so to speak. Did we

2468
02:11:16,840 --> 02:11:19,160
Speaker 2: give the correct answer for the trivia question? We never

2469
02:11:19,200 --> 02:11:21,200
Speaker 2: gave the correct answer. Now, what's that?

2470
02:11:21,520 --> 02:11:23,400
Speaker 3: We never shared what the correct answer was?

2471
02:11:23,480 --> 02:11:26,480
Speaker 2: The last running back Super Bowl Most Valuable Player? It

2472
02:11:26,560 --> 02:11:27,880
Speaker 2: happened twenty eight years ago.

2473
02:11:27,920 --> 02:11:33,640
Speaker 3: Correct, Yes, and that was Terrell Davis of the Denver Broncos.

2474
02:11:34,320 --> 02:11:35,120
Speaker 1: Fabulous player.

2475
02:11:35,160 --> 02:11:38,200
Speaker 3: Short window should have won it for the Colts.

2476
02:11:38,320 --> 02:11:38,640
Speaker 1: What's that?

2477
02:11:38,840 --> 02:11:40,080
Speaker 3: Even though Dominic Road should have.

2478
02:11:40,080 --> 02:11:43,880
Speaker 2: Been the everyone knows that. Yes, John has walked in,

2479
02:11:43,960 --> 02:11:46,400
Speaker 2: J ANDB has arrived. You got last night. I saw,

2480
02:11:46,400 --> 02:11:48,839
Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken, you were fighting with Twitter bots?

2481
02:11:49,000 --> 02:11:49,200
Speaker 1: Right?

2482
02:11:49,680 --> 02:11:51,200
Speaker 2: Was that fighting with? Was that fighting?

2483
02:11:51,240 --> 02:11:54,800
Speaker 8: I didn't even view it as fighting. I was trying

2484
02:11:54,800 --> 02:11:58,840
Speaker 8: to set a pace if can we just it's music, dumbasses,

2485
02:11:59,040 --> 02:12:02,640
Speaker 8: It's okay. It doesn't matter if you like kid rock Grade,

2486
02:12:02,680 --> 02:12:06,360
Speaker 8: if you like Lee Brice or Travis Trice or whoever

2487
02:12:06,400 --> 02:12:07,640
Speaker 8: else is with in Brandley Gill.

2488
02:12:07,680 --> 02:12:09,760
Speaker 2: But that's great. If you like Bad Bunny, that's great.

2489
02:12:10,240 --> 02:12:11,240
Speaker 2: It's not a big deal.

2490
02:12:12,080 --> 02:12:14,160
Speaker 8: I just I have to just make people aware that

2491
02:12:14,200 --> 02:12:16,480
Speaker 8: you don't you don't have to be led down the

2492
02:12:16,520 --> 02:12:19,320
Speaker 8: path of miserableness by jackasses.

2493
02:12:19,720 --> 02:12:23,840
Speaker 2: Well have you noticed though, that like anymore on I

2494
02:12:23,840 --> 02:12:26,360
Speaker 2: don't know if it happens to you, but on the

2495
02:12:26,400 --> 02:12:30,000
Speaker 2: ex post Twitter, like certain things that I will send

2496
02:12:30,000 --> 02:12:33,960
Speaker 2: out and then one person, one bot latches on and

2497
02:12:34,000 --> 02:12:35,880
Speaker 2: then it's just there's no getting out. I mean, it's

2498
02:12:35,960 --> 02:12:39,960
Speaker 2: just a It's like a dumpster fire. It's crazy. I

2499
02:12:40,000 --> 02:12:41,280
Speaker 2: don't know if this happens to you or not, Like

2500
02:12:41,320 --> 02:12:45,000
Speaker 2: I just get it. I had yesterday somebody that was

2501
02:12:45,360 --> 02:12:47,040
Speaker 2: coming after me, and I looked at it and they've

2502
02:12:47,080 --> 02:12:49,320
Speaker 2: sent four tweets in their life. They started an account

2503
02:12:49,320 --> 02:12:52,560
Speaker 2: five years ago, Claudia so one, six y five eight

2504
02:12:52,720 --> 02:12:53,880
Speaker 2: or whatever, she's hot.

2505
02:12:54,760 --> 02:12:56,920
Speaker 1: Those four tweets were to me.

2506
02:12:57,000 --> 02:12:59,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, I literally about it.

2507
02:12:59,240 --> 02:13:03,760
Speaker 8: The inspira of being miserable that a lot of these

2508
02:13:03,800 --> 02:13:06,920
Speaker 8: people and the people we know that take debate is

2509
02:13:07,000 --> 02:13:09,600
Speaker 8: astounding to me. Why do you want to live like that?

2510
02:13:11,160 --> 02:13:12,600
Speaker 8: How do you want to wake up and go, hey,

2511
02:13:12,920 --> 02:13:14,600
Speaker 8: hold on a second. I got to be pissed off

2512
02:13:14,640 --> 02:13:17,440
Speaker 8: by something here, hold on? Oh well, here it's the music,

2513
02:13:18,720 --> 02:13:20,960
Speaker 8: this music, and it's funny. Somebody had mentioned to me,

2514
02:13:21,040 --> 02:13:24,040
Speaker 8: Jake the true story. Somebody had said, hey, are you

2515
02:13:24,120 --> 02:13:27,920
Speaker 8: going to do your show in Spanish tomorrow because that's

2516
02:13:27,920 --> 02:13:29,600
Speaker 8: where we're going. And I said, let me tell you this,

2517
02:13:30,440 --> 02:13:33,000
Speaker 8: I'm not smart enough to do it. I mean, I

2518
02:13:33,040 --> 02:13:36,680
Speaker 8: know like three words, I said. Secondly, I didn't mind

2519
02:13:36,720 --> 02:13:39,440
Speaker 8: that in Spanish, just like I'm probably. I was watching

2520
02:13:39,480 --> 02:13:43,360
Speaker 8: Seinfeld in the Hamptons and it was the famous shrinkage episode.

2521
02:13:43,760 --> 02:13:46,920
Speaker 8: I'm not likely to have shrinkage anytime soon either, I thought, No,

2522
02:13:47,240 --> 02:13:49,600
Speaker 8: just because I'm watching something on team doesn't mean that

2523
02:13:49,640 --> 02:13:52,040
Speaker 8: it's going to translate to what I do every day.

2524
02:13:52,320 --> 02:13:55,360
Speaker 8: It's a form of entertainment at that moment, and then weird.

2525
02:13:55,760 --> 02:13:58,720
Speaker 2: I move on. Look, I've had relatability to the vast

2526
02:13:58,800 --> 02:14:01,600
Speaker 2: majority of things culture speaking over the last fifty years.

2527
02:14:01,600 --> 02:14:04,200
Speaker 2: Every once while I enjoyed stepping outside of that a

2528
02:14:04,240 --> 02:14:04,640
Speaker 2: little bit.

2529
02:14:04,720 --> 02:14:06,800
Speaker 1: But what's on the big program today.

2530
02:14:06,960 --> 02:14:09,640
Speaker 8: Josh Shurtz is the head coach of Saint Louis, the

2531
02:14:10,080 --> 02:14:14,360
Speaker 8: one loss team twenty three and one twenty three and

2532
02:14:14,640 --> 02:14:18,200
Speaker 8: one of the Biliicans of Saint Louis. And yeah, it

2533
02:14:18,240 --> 02:14:20,080
Speaker 8: took me a year to get over my butt herdedness

2534
02:14:20,120 --> 02:14:21,360
Speaker 8: that he left Indiana State.

2535
02:14:21,400 --> 02:14:22,360
Speaker 2: I do understand why.

2536
02:14:22,480 --> 02:14:25,640
Speaker 8: But we'll talk with him, I think Stephen Holder. Maybe

2537
02:14:25,720 --> 02:14:28,520
Speaker 8: I'm not sure. I haven't talked to James yet, but

2538
02:14:29,000 --> 02:14:32,600
Speaker 8: we'll do that Super Bowl recap. I you tonight weird

2539
02:14:32,720 --> 02:14:36,440
Speaker 8: Monday night affair with Oregon. Who's going to be more

2540
02:14:36,720 --> 02:14:38,960
Speaker 8: out of swords at the beginning? Are you because they

2541
02:14:38,960 --> 02:14:42,520
Speaker 8: played on Saturday? Or Oregon because they played on Saturday?

2542
02:14:42,520 --> 02:14:44,360
Speaker 8: Oregon because they were also at Upstairs Pub?

2543
02:14:44,400 --> 02:14:44,839
Speaker 1: Apparently?

2544
02:14:44,960 --> 02:14:47,480
Speaker 8: Hey, I was yesterday too. I went to I went

2545
02:14:47,480 --> 02:14:48,680
Speaker 8: to Buffalowis yesterday.

2546
02:14:48,680 --> 02:14:49,600
Speaker 1: That's right, That's all we do.

2547
02:14:49,680 --> 02:14:52,040
Speaker 8: We go down there and get some Buffalo's wings and

2548
02:14:52,080 --> 02:14:54,560
Speaker 8: then come back home hit that place up yesterday because

2549
02:14:54,560 --> 02:14:57,440
Speaker 8: IU and Purdue played women's basketball yesterday.

2550
02:14:57,840 --> 02:14:59,800
Speaker 2: By the way, the seventy six team will be honored

2551
02:14:59,800 --> 02:15:03,160
Speaker 2: to night. I believe right now as it stands, are there, Eddie,

2552
02:15:03,200 --> 02:15:04,280
Speaker 2: two unbeatens left.

2553
02:15:04,960 --> 02:15:06,600
Speaker 1: Just yes Arizona and admire me.

2554
02:15:06,640 --> 02:15:08,720
Speaker 3: And listen to them tonight as they take on Darren

2555
02:15:08,720 --> 02:15:10,800
Speaker 3: Peterson at the Kansas Jayowks on the fan at eight

2556
02:15:10,880 --> 02:15:14,120
Speaker 3: forty five, and then Miami of Ohio, their head coach

2557
02:15:14,120 --> 02:15:16,560
Speaker 3: will be joining the morning show on Wednesday.

2558
02:15:16,600 --> 02:15:20,480
Speaker 1: I believe. Oh really, yes, that's cool. So beats left.

2559
02:15:20,480 --> 02:15:22,400
Speaker 2: Who's your favorite seventy six team member?

2560
02:15:22,680 --> 02:15:25,280
Speaker 1: Bobby Wilkerson. I'm right there with you.

2561
02:15:25,280 --> 02:15:27,320
Speaker 2: I like Scott may mased.

2562
02:15:27,160 --> 02:15:27,840
Speaker 1: Hard to argue.

2563
02:15:27,920 --> 02:15:30,200
Speaker 2: I just like Wilkerson because he was a do what

2564
02:15:30,320 --> 02:15:32,200
Speaker 2: needs to be done guy at a defensive stopper.

2565
02:15:32,320 --> 02:15:35,360
Speaker 8: And when I was six years old, my grandpa took

2566
02:15:35,400 --> 02:15:38,720
Speaker 8: me and three of my friends to the Memorial Union

2567
02:15:39,080 --> 02:15:41,520
Speaker 8: to get our basketball signed by them.

2568
02:15:41,960 --> 02:15:43,680
Speaker 1: And I still have this somewhere.

2569
02:15:43,720 --> 02:15:46,440
Speaker 8: My grandpa had a big white Bonnie Miller clip on

2570
02:15:46,520 --> 02:15:49,000
Speaker 8: tie and he didn't have a ball and he wanted

2571
02:15:49,040 --> 02:15:51,920
Speaker 8: stuff sign so he took off this big white wide

2572
02:15:52,120 --> 02:15:55,240
Speaker 8: seventies clip on tie and handed it to Quinn. And

2573
02:15:55,280 --> 02:15:58,120
Speaker 8: I've told Quinn this story before. Quinn said, oh, I'm sorry,

2574
02:15:58,120 --> 02:16:00,960
Speaker 8: so we're not allowed to sign thing, and he goes, yeah,

2575
02:16:01,000 --> 02:16:02,800
Speaker 8: I don't care, and he just like kind of clipped,

2576
02:16:03,000 --> 02:16:05,480
Speaker 8: you know, clipped it off of his shirt, handed it

2577
02:16:05,480 --> 02:16:07,240
Speaker 8: to him and they all signed a clip on time.

2578
02:16:07,440 --> 02:16:08,560
Speaker 2: It's still around somewhere too.

2579
02:16:08,600 --> 02:16:09,920
Speaker 1: I still have a something that's pretty cool.

2580
02:16:09,960 --> 02:16:11,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, there are it was. It was a good time.

2581
02:16:12,000 --> 02:16:14,000
Speaker 8: Those are good moments in history right there for real.

2582
02:16:14,400 --> 02:16:15,160
Speaker 1: Josh shirts.

2583
02:16:15,520 --> 02:16:18,480
Speaker 2: Among those that will be joining John next and we

2584
02:16:18,520 --> 02:16:21,919
Speaker 2: will be back through tomorrow, will preview Perdue in Nebraska.

2585
02:16:22,000 --> 02:16:24,040
Speaker 2: Andy Kennedy is my buddy from Omaha I mentioned He

2586
02:16:24,080 --> 02:16:26,880
Speaker 2: will be on with us tomorrow. Also, Scott Agnes will

2587
02:16:26,920 --> 02:16:29,400
Speaker 2: find out the latest on Johnny Furfey.

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Speaker 1: We'll get all of that tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Thanks to Mike Chappell for joining us on the program today.

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Speaker 2: Thanks as well to Eddie Gill, and thanks to you

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Speaker 2: for listening. I appreciate it as always that you've listened

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Speaker 2: to Query and Company.