1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: Lie from the Heartland and the crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: Tony cats today. The indictment of James Komy. 3 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 2: Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. Now, just because 4 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 2: I find him to be a despicable human being doesn't 5 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 2: mean that he should be indicted, and it doesn't mean 6 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 2: that's why he was indicted two counts. Was James Comy indicted? 7 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 2: He was indicted for lying to Congress and for obstruction. 8 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be with you. 9 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 2: I'm stating that in no other situation would you see 10 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 2: the political left say, oh, this is just a travesy, 11 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 2: this is just a grievance, this is just revenge. They 12 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 2: never said that when Trump was being indicted. They never 13 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 2: said that when anybody on the political right was being indicted. 14 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 2: That James Comy is indicted on these two counts, that 15 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 2: he is indicted for a lying, making false statements, and 16 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 2: for obstruction. Now it's all grievance. This was what's her name, 17 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: Caitlin Collins, who shockingly and embarrassingly makes more money than 18 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 2: I do on CNN's CNN. 19 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 3: Breaking News, and we are following major breaking news tonight 20 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 3: is former FBI Director James Comy is now the first 21 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 3: senior government official to face charges in one of President 22 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 3: Trump's biggest grievances, the twenty sixteen Russia investigation. 23 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:56,399 Speaker 2: He was indicted because of grievances. That's that's not factual 24 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 2: at all. He was indicted because of lines at Congress 25 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 2: of obstructing justice, the allegation being that he stated before 26 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 2: Congress that he never leaked any material to the press. 27 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 2: But it seems that the data shows differently. Look I've 28 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 2: said this before, I'll say it again. I can't start 29 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 2: an investigation. I can't stop an investigation. I'm never about 30 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: to get worked up by an investigation. I won't. But 31 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 2: this is the issue one of Donald Trump's grievances. 32 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 4: Comy is charged with giving a false statement and obstruction 33 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 4: of a congressional proceeding relating to the testimony he gave 34 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 4: before the Senate Judiciary Committee five years ago. This indictment 35 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 4: comes just days after the President publicly demanded it, and 36 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 4: shortly after the person the President had picked to be 37 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 4: the US attorney in this office quit and the new 38 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 4: US attorney, three days into that job, did what the 39 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 4: President had wanted to happen only five days before the 40 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 4: statute limitations was set to run out. 41 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 2: First, the story here would seem to me that there 42 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 2: were people in office who weren't willing to do the 43 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 2: job that needed to be done. Secondly, the president is 44 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 2: allowed to put people in office who will do the 45 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 2: job that needs to be done. Third, we have seen 46 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 2: very often that the president will say something because he 47 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 2: knows something is coming, and I wish he would keep 48 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 2: his mouth closed, but he doesn't have that capability. And fourth, 49 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 2: did James Komy lie to Congress? Yes or no? Caitlyn Collins? 50 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 2: And when you tell me I don't know, then the 51 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 2: answer is, well, then let's have the investigation, shall we. 52 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 2: Let's be the people who find out. Because the reporting 53 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 2: of people like Catherine Herridge, who I keep mentioning, seems 54 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 2: to show that he did. His own words seem to 55 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 2: show that he did. Now, as for James Komy himself, 56 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 2: I find him to be an extraordinarily beta male individual, 57 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 2: not somebody who I think is of good character, not 58 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 2: somebody who I think should be looked up to. This 59 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 2: was James Comy when he found out that he was indicted. 60 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 5: My family and I have known for years that there 61 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 5: are costs to standing up to Donald Trump, but we 62 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 5: couldn't imagine ourselves living any other way. We will not 63 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 5: live on our knees, and you shouldn't either. Somebody that 64 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 5: I love dearly recently said that fear is the tool 65 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:53,119 Speaker 5: of a tyrant. And she's right. But I'm not afraid, 66 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 5: and I hope you're not either. I hope instead you 67 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 5: are engaged, You are paying attention, and you will vote 68 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 5: like your beloved country depends upon it, which it does. 69 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 2: I did, A lot of us did. He is a 70 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 2: man of remarkable hubris. Is hubris the right word? He's 71 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 2: not afraid, vote like your country depends on it. Let's 72 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 2: just go back a bit into the wayback machine. This 73 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 2: is twenty twenty one, as a reminder of the kind 74 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 2: of things January twenty first, twenty twenty one, the kind 75 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 2: of things that James Comy was saying. 76 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 6: Then, can victim bar him from future service? Have the prosecutors, 77 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 6: the local prosecutors in New York pursue him for the 78 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 6: fraudster that he was before he ever became president. 79 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 7: Lock him up for the garden variety Florence he did there, 80 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 7: But don't give him that center stage that dominant role 81 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 7: in our national life just down the street where Joe 82 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 7: Biden is trying to heal this nation. 83 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 2: Right, Biden did a great job of healing the nation, 84 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 2: if you mean he gave us more to laugh at 85 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 2: than Jimmy Kimmel ever did. You're absolutely right. The problem 86 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 2: is being president is not a laughing matter, and having 87 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 2: an autopen instead of a president is a serious issue. 88 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 2: For the record, You've seen the photos. You've seen the 89 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 2: colonnade there where they've got the president, the photos of 90 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:30,239 Speaker 2: all the presidents, and they've got Bush and then they've 91 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 2: got Obama, and then they've got Trump, and then they've 92 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 2: got the auto pen and then they've got Trump. And 93 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 2: you're like, well, what you mean Biden. Oh no, no, no, 94 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 2: they have a photo of the autopen. Yes. I think 95 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 2: it's wrong. I get it, haha, ti he it's trolling. 96 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 2: I'm not interested in personalities. I'm only interested in the 97 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 2: work being done. The fact that there was a cabal 98 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 2: running the country instead of Joe Biden is something that 99 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 2: we should be engaging an investigation into. But listen to 100 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 2: Komy here. He doesn't want to just investigate Trump for 101 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 2: things done as president. That's not his argument. 102 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 6: Convictim bar him from future service. Have the prosecutors, the 103 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 6: local prosecutors in New York pursue him for the fraudster 104 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 6: that he was before he ever became president. 105 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 2: So how far back James Comy did you think they 106 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 2: were supposed to go? Because this is the former FBI 107 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 2: director yelling out, show me the man, and I'll show 108 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 2: you the crime. And now he wants to tell us 109 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 2: how pious he is. Gentlemen, fathers, mothers, ladies, do not 110 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 2: let your children, your sons grow up to be James Comy. 111 00:08:55,920 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 2: Don't let it happen. You cannot let it happen. Your 112 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 2: job is to keep your kids from growing up to 113 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 2: be anything like this human being, this absolutely horrific human being. 114 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 2: I would never I would never want my sons to 115 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 2: be like this. What did James Comy do in this line? 116 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 2: Is that something that he can be found guilty for? Well, 117 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 2: I think the data this point in a direction. But 118 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 2: that's what investigations and that's what trials are for. Let 119 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 2: that happen. But there has been a very strange response 120 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 2: to this, and that stranger response is best summed up 121 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 2: by Joe Scarborough because if you want strange responses, you 122 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 2: go to MSNBC or what do they know? Is it 123 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 2: ms NOW News Opinion World ms now with a logo 124 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 2: that I'm pretty sure was designed by by paint Well. 125 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 2: Remember the program that came with your operating system of 126 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 2: it's that. Check this out from Joe Scarborough Aeroso Peeding. 127 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 8: You do this, you turn the person you hate into 128 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 8: a mortar. You make them bigger than ever, you unite 129 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 8: people behind them. Donald Trump understood this in his own 130 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 8: political campaign, and yet he's now making Comy a mortar. 131 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 2: Allow me to explain why Joe Scarborough is wrong. In 132 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 2: order to reach a level of even being considered to 133 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 2: be a martyr, you have to be someone that people like, 134 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 2: the idea that the political left can take James Comy 135 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 2: and move him as a cause celeb into this. Look 136 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 2: at this poor man who has sacrificed so much for 137 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 2: our country. You mean the poor man who had rearrange 138 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 2: seashells to say eighty six forty seven, which can be 139 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 2: taken as a threat against the president, and then lied 140 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 2: about well, my wife came upon these seashells. That's the 141 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 2: guy who you make a martyr. Joe Scarborough is mistaken here. 142 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 2: Martyrship does or martyrdom does indeed happen, but the person 143 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 2: either has to be well known to a specific purpose 144 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 2: or totally unknown, so they could be manipulated by others 145 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 2: into this thing. George anyone. The facts about George Floyd's 146 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 2: drug use, the facts that the drugs in the system 147 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 2: would have killed him. The fact that Derek Shaufin, who 148 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 2: I think is a terrible guy, didn't have the knee 149 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 2: on the neck, that doesn't matter. Here's the video, here's 150 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 2: the rioting saint did George Floyd? They took a knee 151 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 2: in congress. Jacob Fray, the mayor of Minneapolis, cried at 152 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 2: his coffin, and then they went home, and they dusted 153 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 2: themselves off, and they debbed their eyes a little bit 154 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 2: and said, well, that was a good bit of theater. 155 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 2: They threw away the handkerchief, and they went about screaming, 156 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 2: how do we turn this into political power? You want 157 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 2: one of the great examples of someone utilized. Oh what 158 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 2: a martyr, Oh what a strong woman. Oh, somebody we 159 00:12:54,960 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 2: should look up to. Cindy Shean, Remember Cindy Shean. During 160 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 2: the Bush administration, Cindy Sheen was a martyr sitting out 161 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 2: there in front of the ranch every day, demanding to 162 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 2: speak to George Bush about her son and this and 163 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 2: that and the other, right until she said the somewhat 164 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 2: not perfect thing and then boom like Kaiser, so say 165 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 2: she was gone. You gotta like a martyr. You either 166 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 2: have to know nothing about them, or they have to 167 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 2: have the kind of pedigree that people were already following them. 168 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 2: And nobody follows James Comy. No one likes James Comy. 169 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 2: Joe Scarborough, you don't like James Comy. James Comy is 170 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 2: a beta male wimp. James Comy is a loser, not 171 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 2: because I say so, but because he said so. He 172 00:13:54,880 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 2: blamed his wife. Martyrs don't do that. Mars like fathers, 173 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 2: like men, and not all martyrs or men, but we're 174 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 2: talking about Komi here. They don't put their wives up 175 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 2: as the shield. They jump on top of their wives 176 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 2: to protect them from the bullets. You didn't think that 177 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 2: through Joe, which I can appreciate. I've seen your show. 178 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 2: He's not a martyer. He is a guy who lied 179 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 2: to Congress. And I think the obstruction charges really wanted 180 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 2: more of those catch all kind of conversations, something you 181 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 2: just put out there because you want something to stick, right. 182 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 2: We saw that in a lot of the January sixth allegations. 183 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 2: But here we are indicted and surrendering in the whole jazz. 184 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 2: Let it go from here. Oh sure, the left will 185 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 2: scream that this is just about grievance and all the rest. 186 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 2: Does it matter what theyce cream? Does it matter what 187 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 2: Caitlin Collins says? I ask you this, Are you trusting 188 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 2: her after all this time and everything that CNN said, 189 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 2: everything MSNBC said, You're trusting either one of them? Let 190 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 2: things go forward. Innocent until proven guilty, Go to work. 191 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today.