WEBVTT - Mac & Bone Show - Jones Angell Interview 

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we got Jones Angel back with us now.

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<v Speaker 1>We thought he may have hung up over a protest

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<v Speaker 1>over our lame dad jokes, but Jones Angel is with us.

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<v Speaker 2>What's up, Jones? How you doing, man?

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, guys. No, I could hear you. You couldn't hear me,

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<v Speaker 3>but hey, we're going to make it happen. Glad to

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<v Speaker 3>be with you guys. And, uh, Busy weekend upcoming for

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<v Speaker 3>the Heels. Looking forward to it. A great weekend this

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<v Speaker 3>past weekend for sure. Trying to build off that momentum

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<v Speaker 3>and see where they can go.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you think of the win against Pittsburgh? It

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<v Speaker 1>was a gritty one.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like that TCU game.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like if they can get in these gritty,

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<v Speaker 1>tough games, I think these are games they can win

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<v Speaker 1>more of.

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<v Speaker 2>What did you think about that performance?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, it certainly wasn't the prettiest game in

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<v Speaker 3>the world, but I think Carolina certainly enjoyed the final score.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's kind of where they are, to your point.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think as you look at this schedule, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>outside of Miami, who's coming up in a couple of weeks,

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<v Speaker 3>and Miami's in a really, really good team and better

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<v Speaker 3>than the Tar Heels this season. Not saying Carolina can't

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<v Speaker 3>win that game, but just talent-wise, they're at a different

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<v Speaker 3>level at the moment. Every other game, including this weekend

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<v Speaker 3>against Duke, you're looking at kind of comparable teams. And

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<v Speaker 3>there might be some areas that are a little better,

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<v Speaker 3>some areas where the Tar Heels are a little better, whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>but pretty comparable teams. And so for Carolina, you're likely

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<v Speaker 3>going to be in some of these really tight games.

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<v Speaker 3>Or can you be the team that doesn't make the mistake?

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<v Speaker 3>Can you be the team that takes advantage when the

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<v Speaker 3>other team makes a mistake? Can you be the team

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<v Speaker 3>that hits the big player, too, that makes the difference?

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<v Speaker 3>And so I felt like Carolina did that really well

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<v Speaker 3>this past week. I mean, guys, Pittsburgh really controlled the

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<v Speaker 3>first half of that game. They ran 31 more plays

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<v Speaker 3>than Carolina did. They had the ball 15 more minutes

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<v Speaker 3>than the Tar Heels did just in the first half.

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<v Speaker 3>And yet the score was 10 to seven at halftime

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<v Speaker 3>because the Tar Heels kind of hung around and done

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<v Speaker 3>enough and they were in there and then played much

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<v Speaker 3>better in the second half and won the game.

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<v Speaker 2>And so and they did it.

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<v Speaker 3>With some adversity. You know, they had two defensive starters

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<v Speaker 3>that did not play in this game. Two more defensive

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<v Speaker 3>starters that got hurt during the game. And so they

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<v Speaker 3>were down some important bodies and players as well. And

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<v Speaker 3>so I do think that they felt good leaving Pittsburgh

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<v Speaker 3>for a lot of reasons. And now you try and

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<v Speaker 3>build off that and take another step.

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<v Speaker 4>Jones, how impressed have you been with Jordan Shipp from

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<v Speaker 4>a performance and leadership standpoint?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, man, it's hard not to be impressed with Jordan Shipp.

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<v Speaker 3>He's just an impressive guy from off the field to

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<v Speaker 3>on the field to in the classroom to in the community.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, all the stuff. Yeah, Jordan is the type

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<v Speaker 3>of player that you want to be one of the

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<v Speaker 3>faces of your program. And, yeah, he has really stuck

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<v Speaker 3>with Carolina. You know, I mean, he was there. His

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<v Speaker 3>first year was Mack Brown's last year of his second tenure.

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<v Speaker 3>Then Jordan was here last year during what was a

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<v Speaker 3>difficult season for Carolina with a lot of transition. And

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<v Speaker 3>he's kind of just taken an elevated role every year

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<v Speaker 3>and both on and off the field to now. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>he really is one of those guys that that that

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<v Speaker 3>leads this program. He's gotten a lot better as a

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<v Speaker 3>player as well. I mean, he's gotten faster. He's gotten stronger.

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<v Speaker 3>He's just more seasoned. All the things you would expect

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<v Speaker 3>as somebody gets older. But he's really attacked that. He

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<v Speaker 3>works really hard. And I think you guys may have

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<v Speaker 3>seen that video in the locker room after the game where,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Coach Belichick kind of addresses the team and

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<v Speaker 3>then they're about to break down and Jordan Shipp busts

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<v Speaker 3>in there with a game ball and says, hey, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, this first ranked win under coach. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 3>like we appreciate coach. We appreciate everything you do for

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<v Speaker 3>us or whatever it was that he said. And then

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<v Speaker 3>everybody kind of jumped around and got excited. And so, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>He is a guy that you love being a part

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<v Speaker 3>of your program, and gosh, it's a benefit for Carolina

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<v Speaker 3>every day that Jordan Shipp's on the team.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't expect you, Jones, to repeat on live radio

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<v Speaker 1>the quote of, you've taken a lot of bleep. But

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. You can tell they're like, man, that's

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<v Speaker 1>our coach. Get off his back.

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<v Speaker 2>We won this for you.

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<v Speaker 1>You can tell the chemistry and the culture there is

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<v Speaker 1>on an uptick. Now, what does that mean in this

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<v Speaker 1>game against Duke? Because if they could get back-to-back wins,

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<v Speaker 1>a Pitt and a Duke, and get that victory bell,

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<v Speaker 1>that would really go a long ways. What do you

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<v Speaker 1>think about how these two teams match up?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Duke's had a solid season, 4-1 through five games.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think the Blue Devils have played a super

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<v Speaker 3>tough schedule, but they've beaten who's in front of them.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's all you can ask, right? And even their

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<v Speaker 3>loss last week was a game where they led the

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<v Speaker 3>game late. Georgia Tech made a few plays, and then

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<v Speaker 3>Duke even had a chance to try and tie it

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<v Speaker 3>and just missed the field goal at the end of

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<v Speaker 3>the game. So they've either won or been really competitive

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<v Speaker 3>every time they've been out there. I'm sure you guys

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<v Speaker 3>have talked about Nate Shepard this season leading the nation

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<v Speaker 3>in rushing and all-purpose yards. I'm telling you, man, what

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<v Speaker 3>a player. You watch him play, and his contact balance,

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<v Speaker 3>his ability to break tackles is really, really impressive. And

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<v Speaker 3>so for me, that's got to be the focus of

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<v Speaker 3>Carolina defensively because Duke's not dumb. They're trying to get

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<v Speaker 3>the ball to Shepard in multiple ways, as any team would.

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<v Speaker 3>For Carolina, how do you make sure that if you

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<v Speaker 3>read the play, if you get a chance to bring

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<v Speaker 3>him down, how do you make sure you bring him

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<v Speaker 3>down for four yards instead of 40 yards? All the

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<v Speaker 3>kind of boring football stuff, the fundamentals, the tackling, the leverage,

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<v Speaker 3>the rallying to the football, I think all of that's

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<v Speaker 3>going to be really important for the Tar Heels defensively

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<v Speaker 3>because Shepard is an elite-level player. And so figuring out

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<v Speaker 3>a way to, to minimize him will be important. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So Jones, you're not believing the questionable on the injury report.

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<v Speaker 1>You feel like, you feel like rivalry game. He finished

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<v Speaker 1>at Georgia.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you, you, you feel like you're going to see

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<v Speaker 2>him on the field, huh?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, well, I would assume so. I mean, I do

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<v Speaker 3>what I believe he did shake, you know, bang up

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<v Speaker 3>his ankle a little bit. I'm sure there, there is

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<v Speaker 3>some question and, but yeah, I, yes, I, I would

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<v Speaker 3>expect him on the field if, Yeah, I think that's

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<v Speaker 3>probably a fair assumption.

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<v Speaker 4>The bell's on the line. Jones, we have talked about Shepard.

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<v Speaker 4>I've compared him to Ricky Williams twice on the show already.

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<v Speaker 4>Walter Payton, Jim Brown, Barry Sanders. Jones, on the basketball side,

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<v Speaker 4>last week's exhibition opener, the debut for Michael Malone, what

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<v Speaker 4>were your impressions? What impressed you, Jones? My thought was, man,

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<v Speaker 4>there's a lot of sideline energy there with Michael Malone

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<v Speaker 4>that I didn't fully notice when he was with Denver.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, obviously watching this game, most of this

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<v Speaker 3>game from the Tar Heel perspective was about Michael Malone, right?

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<v Speaker 3>Like it was about, you know, how does he manage things?

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<v Speaker 3>How does he handle the sideline? You know, just all

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<v Speaker 3>these different things. And so I thought it was a

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<v Speaker 3>really impressive opener for Carolina against a good team in

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<v Speaker 3>USC who was down a couple of players, but Carolina

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<v Speaker 3>was down a player, still don't have Cam Finns. in

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<v Speaker 3>the post. And so it wasn't perfect on the floor,

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<v Speaker 3>but gracious, it was early October. You would not expect

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<v Speaker 3>it to be. And so to see what I was

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<v Speaker 3>impressed with was how hard Carolina played, was how together

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<v Speaker 3>the Tar Heels seemed to be, even with so many

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<v Speaker 3>new players. And then that defensive effort in the second half,

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<v Speaker 3>because Carolina didn't start that game very well defensively. And

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<v Speaker 3>that's been something they've really worked hard on and that

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<v Speaker 3>Michael Malone has preached. And so to see that then

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<v Speaker 3>come into fruition a little bit in the second half

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<v Speaker 3>and really spark that really good half for Carolina was impressive. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, did either of these teams handle it like

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<v Speaker 3>it was a regular season game? Probably not. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>the rotations, the minutes, that kind of stuff I'm sure

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<v Speaker 3>was different. But I think that was part of it

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<v Speaker 3>for Carolina is.

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<v Speaker 2>To see what you had.

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<v Speaker 3>And so they'll take another step on that journey on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll be up in Indianapolis tomorrow. to take on with

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<v Speaker 3>the Tar Heels as they take on the Hoosiers in

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<v Speaker 3>an exhibition game. But I really enjoyed watching Michael Malone

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<v Speaker 3>interact with his staff, with the guys, how he handled

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<v Speaker 3>all that. I thought it was really fun to see.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no doubt Michael Malone can coach. There's no doubt.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I think that's an exciting prospect for Carolina,

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<v Speaker 3>not just this year, but moving forward as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Jones, I want to commend you and T-Bone in opposite

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<v Speaker 1>shades of blue this week.

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<v Speaker 2>You two were two.

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<v Speaker 1>Total professionals during this interview why do you.

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<v Speaker 3>Think that the phone messed up right there at the

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<v Speaker 3>beginning guys i was they were really trying to work

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<v Speaker 3>hard i was saying i'm not talking to t-bone this

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<v Speaker 3>week but eventually they they wore me.

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<v Speaker 4>Down no we jones and i get along till february

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<v Speaker 4>then things happen.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys want to make like a victory bell game

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<v Speaker 1>bet like blue bell ice cream like a gallon of

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<v Speaker 1>blue bell ice cream or something.

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<v Speaker 4>No why are you trying to Why are you trying

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<v Speaker 4>to divide friends?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I do what he does, Jones. We're getting along fine.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what this guy does.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right. That's right. There's always one.

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<v Speaker 2>Jones, it could be worse. This guy's rooting for both

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<v Speaker 2>teams on Saturday. Yeah, I'm going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Happy for either one of y'all. I want you to

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<v Speaker 1>know that right now and for all the fans. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to be happy either way, which Bone resents me for.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't come in on Monday and mock whichever team walks.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Jones.

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<v Speaker 1>Enjoy calling the rivalry game, man. Thanks for coming on.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, assuming the Tar Heels win, I'll talk to you

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<v Speaker 3>next week. If not, then I'll talk to you in

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<v Speaker 3>a few weeks. Uh-oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Then it's going to get personal. Duke doesn't want to.

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<v Speaker 3>I might not be here.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Jones, be good, brother.