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Speaker 1: But before we get into the Young thugday, look on

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Speaker 1: tuned for all of their content. That being said, Young

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Speaker 1: Thug conversation man, he just dropped a project on September

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Speaker 1: for the longest court thing, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been it's been a minute.

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Speaker 1: It's been a very long time where Young Thug's name

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Speaker 1: I think there's so many things not an album. We'll

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Speaker 1: Hey, Hey, I'm a U now bro. Hey, I'm removed

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Speaker 4: So you're saying a conversation about just the recent stuff,

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Speaker 1: Thug centered around the music, the controversy, the breakup with

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Speaker 1: like It's just there's a lot.

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Speaker 3: Of a lot of rap going on right now, brouh.

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Speaker 2: But we only focused on Young Thug right now.

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Speaker 1: I feel like Young Thug was like really feared at

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Speaker 1: But now it's like everybody talking about him like it's

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Speaker 2: If everybody was just all of a sudden talk about Gucci.

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Speaker 2: That's how I feel about Thug because they said that.

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Speaker 1: He was like for real, I think the main difference

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Allegedly, I was careful with

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Speaker 5: I was just like, you know, it's recorded, its recorded.

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Speaker 1: You know, we may review a project or something like that.

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Speaker 1: Now here's the thing, right, Like twenty one songs our

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Speaker 1: what it is, like that's their formula. That's too much

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Speaker 2: However, like that.

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Speaker 2: And you can say, nick gird nigga, it don't really matter.

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Speaker 2: we know he's not white. I'm just saying. But it's like, okay,

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Speaker 1: He's the blackest of the blackest niggas you can find in.

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Speaker 2: The street, like you so black.

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Speaker 3: They had his ass on Rico charges.

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Speaker 2: Like he's not white.

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Speaker 1: It don't matter if he put hisself in white face

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Speaker 2: I don't understand. I don't I don't get it.

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Speaker 3: I saw people saying that. Even if it was, they

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Speaker 2: It's weird.

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Speaker 1: It's not that weird to me, But how many how

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Speaker 2: Hard Okay, like like like not not in it's irrelevant

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Speaker 1: But but but it's a sign of disrespect though when

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Speaker 3: I always think that's.

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Speaker 4: Lighthearted joking just and yeah, it's just making fun of it,

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Speaker 4: think that's the first track, the first track that you

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Speaker 3: I was like, oh wait, wait, is this the song?

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Speaker 3: And I saw it was Ninja.

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Speaker 4: At the same time, I also didn't understand the conversation

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Speaker 4: I don't understand why people are so like freaked out

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Speaker 3: I do. I did think that it reminded me of

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Speaker 4: Remember it was on the Halloween album he did with

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was called my gun.

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Speaker 4: KKK because I hate niggas, you know. I thought that

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Speaker 4: was funny. And that's when I was like, Okay, I messed. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I messed with twenty one Savage, but that's a funny way,

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Speaker 4: flip right to use that the way that.

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Speaker 2: Thug used it. Here, it's he meant that ship he was.

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Speaker 3: He was like, I'm gonna call call well.

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Speaker 7: I can't remember exactly like you said it, but it

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Speaker 7: was just like, bro, he actually rod. It felt like

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Speaker 7: he actually but on the white face and yeah, yeah

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Speaker 1: It was like he was Drew Sky for by that

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Speaker 1: juicy you know what. Him and he need to make

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Speaker 3: And he wouldn't let it go. It's just like the

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Speaker 2: He did it because did it. Nobody had a problem

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Speaker 2: with it. Juice juice. He used the eer face public

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Speaker 1: And again and again, I agree with you Rod where

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Speaker 2: I don't understand how it's weird. It's weird, bro, he

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Speaker 2: is weird. He's black. I don't he used it as

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Speaker 1: That's even if he used it as a white person,

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Speaker 1: Like you could put a skit on your album acting

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like like like for me, that's the

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Speaker 1: nuance there, you know what I'm saying, Like if you

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Speaker 1: make it as a skit and you're like in white

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Speaker 1: face talking to your ops that way, because everything that

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Speaker 2: By, you know, like he's talking ship. So I'm like

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Speaker 2: okay that that. I'm okay with that. But then you

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Speaker 4: That was like, hey, Rod, it sounds like you wanted

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Speaker 4: to he he wanted to put on some white sheese

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Speaker 4: in the in the hood and go get them.

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Speaker 2: You know, we didn't though he wants and that's what

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Speaker 8: Rod, I got the k k K my ops, Like, No,

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Speaker 8: that's weird. He like the white black was the day

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Speaker 8: about getting the white black racist, the the white black suprema.

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Speaker 1: No, that's look again, in a skit in comedy where

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Speaker 2: You can see it. Okay in the in the skit.

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Speaker 2: In music, I'm okay with that too. That's wrapping. Bro.

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Speaker 3: Them white folks gonna be wrapping the hell out of

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Speaker 3: that song. Bro.

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Speaker 4: They gonna be going out telling you Rod, they already

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Speaker 4: say nigga when they get to this song.

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Speaker 3: Bro, this is a license and licensed to carry. Bro.

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Speaker 2: I got ther my, I got my R card in

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Speaker 2: the back pocket shirt. Yeah, I wanted was.

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Speaker 4: It was definitely very shocking because I didn't spend the name,

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Speaker 3: After a while, I started to get a little friended like, God, damn,

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Speaker 1: D At minimum, it's weird, bro, But he's also trying

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Speaker 3: He's trying to be controversial. I think he thought it

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Speaker 4: I think just because of as we were discussing a

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Speaker 3: Is like, Bro, what is wrong with you?

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Speaker 2: Like, what is going on?

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Speaker 4: I think if young throw would have done that before

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Speaker 4: he probably could have got away with it. I think

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Speaker 4: it would have been looked at diffferently. But the woof

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Speaker 1: Somebody in his team must have said, ay, bro, like

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Speaker 1: what you said in that interview on that podcast, we

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Speaker 1: got it, Hey, we got a milk it for.

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Speaker 3: All his word, it wasn't. Well, we wouldn't know.

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Speaker 4: But because when I was like, oh that was actual song,

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Speaker 4: I thought he said it in an interview and that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so okay, So I guess from the public perspective,

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Speaker 2: Which was first? I don't know which one was first?

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Speaker 4: Man how clip but if if he actually used it

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Speaker 4: actually pretty clever he do.

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Speaker 2: And then the beat wall out here.

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Speaker 4: Boy, I actually don't think the album is that bad.

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Speaker 4: I've listened to a lot of you the music neither.

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Speaker 4: So so when I'm hearing people say this is trash worstuff,

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Speaker 4: and I'm like, well, how about young Thug If you

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Speaker 2: Young real quick.

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Speaker 1: So so when that first song came, then it kind

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Speaker 1: hold on, how are you saying that this is his

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Speaker 2: But then when it got to the hardy R at

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Speaker 2: the end, I'm like, WHOA, hold on?

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Speaker 3: Like take that away?

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Speaker 4: Is it?

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Speaker 3: Is it? Is it? That? Is it?

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Speaker 4: I don't think so I think that's the thing that

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Speaker 4: Marijajz and Santa. I don't know what's going on her

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Speaker 4: twenty one. I thought it was good on Here was

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Speaker 3: I thought Money on Money Money Already was hard as hell,

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Speaker 3: it was nice. Card was Carty bro CARDI, Hey, hey, hey,

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 4: Know if before the CARDI review, but Cardio you go

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Speaker 4: car I was like, because, like, is that carded cards

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Speaker 4: rapping cars rapping?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it could have been the other card. This

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Speaker 1: But so when I was listening to this cat like

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Speaker 2: So when I heard TI, I said, whoa, we got Ti.

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Speaker 4: Out of retirement, Like yeah, I don't know if he

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Speaker 2: What do you mean if you already had a song.

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Speaker 4: And so the reason why bringing that up is because

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Speaker 4: of everything that's been going on and you know, if

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Speaker 4: they were like, hey man, you steal my guy, I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna still rock with you, and yeah, I got you

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Speaker 1: So so I'm glad that you went there because I

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Speaker 1: this this was a clear divide of people that fuck

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Speaker 1: Dot and everybody else. Because you look at especially like

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Speaker 1: what twenty one Savage said. He said, I ain't shooting

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Speaker 1: no blinks, I ain't Asap Rocky. We know that obviously

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00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:55,200
Speaker 1: Asap was on the future side of stuff, and even

440
00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,439
Speaker 1: though you know, and futures kind of made Amend's futures

441
00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,680
Speaker 1: kind of neutral at the moment, even though he was

442
00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 1: the fire starter to the whole shit.

443
00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:03,520
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

444
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,120
Speaker 1: But you listen to what twenty one said, you listen

445
00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:10,200
Speaker 1: to you, or you look at Travis. You just look

446
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:14,200
Speaker 1: at the people that he has featured. It felt like

447
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 1: it's a clear line in the sand, especially after hearing

448
00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 1: what he thought about k Dot not putting people on.

449
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 2: So you look at everybody that he's worked with on

450
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:24,879
Speaker 2: this particular project.

451
00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:26,800
Speaker 4: It's like, you know, I think this is a good

452
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 4: litmus test for the you know, I think to kind

453
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,639
Speaker 4: of see where people are with him with the music.

454
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,440
Speaker 4: I think there were some missteps, but I think it's

455
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 4: unfortunate because this feels very much like a typical Young

456
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:46,439
Speaker 4: Thug album from what I remember, because can to.

457
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:50,439
Speaker 1: Me the production on here, like not the whole thing,

458
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,920
Speaker 1: but like the first one, Money on Money and some

459
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 1: other ones everybody like what was the one that had

460
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,680
Speaker 1: well twenty one walk Down.

461
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:02,639
Speaker 2: It threw me back to old Atlanta Ken.

462
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 1: It threw me back to like Geez thungk motivation one

463
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 1: on one, It threw me back to trap music.

464
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 2: T I like, it threw me back to that era

465
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 2: of Atlanta.

466
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 1: Like it didn't feel like because Young Thug is very

467
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:19,119
Speaker 1: sing songy can and he was rarely that.

468
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't a lot of that here.

469
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 4: I think where I was going was that he definitely

470
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 4: was going to have a lot of ears on him

471
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,639
Speaker 4: because so and you put out this album that for

472
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 4: a lot of people is a miss, and if they're

473
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,879
Speaker 4: not familiar with him, then they're going to go in

474
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 4: expect to hear I don't know what and walk away

475
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 4: with like, yo, that's trash. I don't ever want to

476
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,640
Speaker 4: hear a young thug album again. It's interesting to see

477
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,680
Speaker 4: the response and like is this on a road to

478
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 4: recovery or is this like is it over? And I

479
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 4: don't know, but it seems like it was not well received.

480
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 4: People didn't like the hardy R thing, they didn't like

481
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 4: the album cover wife Chase, and then there are a

482
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 4: lot of songs out here that are that are bad

483
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:10,879
Speaker 4: that people don't like.

484
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 3: So what next? And I don't know you're okay with you, nig.

485
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 2: I mean, man, I just know I didn't get it.

486
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 2: I just really didn't. It's weird.

487
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 1: I mean I feel like if a if A Billy

488
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 1: Woods or anybody else, like just any type of rap

489
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,160
Speaker 1: just did it, that's black. I don't think we would

490
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 1: have a problem because we would know that they're doing

491
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 1: it for a reason and and and it's and it's

492
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 1: a yeah, it's a reason behind it. He's obviously saying

493
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 1: it with with like for a reason, not as like

494
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 1: A am racist or like I don't I don't get it,

495
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 1: Like I just it really just not computing for me

496
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 1: how you feel about the music though, Like you said.

497
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,879
Speaker 2: It yeah, Yeah, the music was fine. I feel like

498
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:58,360
Speaker 2: I'm not a young thug fan.

499
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 1: I told you, like are like how I feel about

500
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 1: when he raps in his regular voice, and like, uh,

501
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 1: I don't like the.

502
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 2: I don't like that that flow like that, that's just

503
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 2: that that's just kind of whacked.

504
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 1: It's like when he just kind of rapped like real,

505
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 1: just kind of raw, and it's just kind of you

506
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like I like when he raps

507
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 1: like that in his regular voice. And like I said,

508
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 1: the beasts were fine, the features were fine. Yeah, I

509
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 1: didn't think it was a bad young thub project. But again,

510
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 1: I'm not a young thug fan. You know what I'm saying.

511
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,120
Speaker 1: You're not as target demo. I'm not as target demo.

512
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 2: I could. I could put myself in that space, you

513
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. I listened to the to the

514
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 2: Young Dawson stuff of the world. Way different though, Is

515
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 2: it way different? Dolphin?

516
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 3: There? It's how different?

517
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 2: Is it way different? Is it different than Gucci? Dolphin?

518
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 1: Gucci belong in the same bucket, So my young thug

519
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:57,919
Speaker 1: doesn't belong in their bucket that you're.

520
00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 2: Saying, Yeah, what bucket is you?

521
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 3: Like?

522
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 2: The Gunna, the Cardi sing song a lot.

523
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

524
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 2: I thinking I'll be thinking like hood Ship, I just

525
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,199
Speaker 2: I just kind of follow it all up in the.

526
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 1: Same I feel you, like, if we're talking hood, yes

527
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 1: you could put them in the same box. But like

528
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:24,239
Speaker 1: if we're talking stylistically, the name and the music at

529
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 1: times don't match.

530
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, don't match.

531
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 4: It is very interesting because you think you would go

532
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 4: in and here like some murder murder, kill kills stuff.

533
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 1: But because I like, you know what I'm saying. I've

534
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 1: said that before record like old Jez and some of

535
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 1: some of new but yeah, I don't know.

536
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 3: I just I just get that clot bro. Yeah.

537
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 2: I like I'm listening.

538
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 4: So I think it's interesting your take on this album

539
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 4: being relatively neutral on what with the music, and you're like, Okay,

540
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 4: well it's not that bad, you know. Yeah, yeah saying

541
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 4: so I'm thinking about how you're thinking about it after

542
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 4: listening to a compared to other people that have listened

543
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 4: to it that also were in a similar bucket as you,

544
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 4: And I'm wondering if they're being more harsh on the

545
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 4: album because.

546
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 3: Of what has been happening with him, his reputation is damaged,

547
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 3: you know it is.

548
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 4: And you know, the Whoop to Do thing was funny,

549
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 4: and I think people were like, and you know what,

550
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 4: And I'm gonna give him some some credit because I

551
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 4: think he came out and apologize right for some of

552
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 4: the things that he did.

553
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I think I saw a headline like that, Yeah.

554
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he tried yeah, yeah, yeah he did. He did.

555
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think that was part of like this

556
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 4: whole interview that run that he went that he did

557
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 4: the whole interview thing, and he was trying to explain

558
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 4: his side of things.

559
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:53,880
Speaker 3: So it was a different approach.

560
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 4: It was a mature approach from him where he decided

561
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 4: to kind of like, you know, at least clean things up.

562
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 4: And you know, maybe that was in an attempt to

563
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 4: prepare people for the music, but I think it was

564
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 4: smart to go ahead and put the album out.

565
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 3: And now he knows where where things are with him.

566
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 4: I think he was controversial enough to get people talking

567
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 4: and here we are, So where do we go from

568
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 4: here with Thug?

569
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 3: I don't know.

570
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 4: But and is it over for Thug right now? I

571
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 4: don't know that either. You know, I thought at one

572
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 4: point it was a rap and it still might be

573
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 4: over for Young Thug because at the end of the day,

574
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 4: when you think what I think, what people think like

575
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 4: it doesn't matter because a lot of people are not

576
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 4: rocking with it, and that's his issue.

577
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: He should have gave all of this this backlash to

578
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 1: some time to rest. I think that way people would

579
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: have went into this with a more open mind. He

580
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: should have definitely put more promo behind it, more thought

581
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: behind it, and I think that would have helped him.

582
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: I don't I didn't understand why he dropped this when

583
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 1: he had swimming people at his neck. I did not

584
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 1: understand why he did that. I mean, you got so

585
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: many people making memes about you, like I get that

586
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 1: your name is in the street right now or on

587
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: the on the web right now, but not for good reason.

588
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: Like everything was like negative. That's I didn't see many

589
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: people on Thuger side. But but I think that's the

590
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: perfect time because because the album is addressing it, like

591
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: I think, I think if I think if the purpose

592
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: of the album was to get hits into get back

593
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: to form, right, because to me, this was a little

594
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: bit this is different than than the typical Young Thug album.

595
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: But if you're gonna address it, you gotta address it

596
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: better than this. You gotta give it a little bit

597
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: more thought. You gotta put a little bit more thought

598
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: behind it, like give it some time to breathe, Like,

599
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: like what what what.

600
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 2: What Drake is doing right now? I feel like he's

601
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 2: giving it time to address everything.

602
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: So I'm really curious to see what Drake does when

603
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: he finally releases a project, because he's he's had a

604
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: chance to like listen to the Murmurs, look at what

605
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: people's doing, super Bowl, the Grammys. He has all of

606
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: this stuff, he has all of this content that he

607
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: could rap about him. I feel like Thug could have

608
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: did the same thing. Just take all that stuff in

609
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: and just just make some not super thought provoking, but

610
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like something with a little

611
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: bit more substance. Because this felt very very like what

612
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: am I trying to say, like like surface level where

613
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: he was rapping up Okay, And that's why I said,

614
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: like I think if this is how he felt now

615
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: and how he released it is the time because first

616
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: of all, people are already searching for you, right because

617
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: all of the audio leagues, all of the controversy, everything right,

618
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: and what he's talking about is just how he personally felt,

619
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: like how he felt betrayed hold on and also and

620
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: also how like you know, he talked about cheating on

621
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: Mariah the scientists, He talked about all of those things

622
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: that he talked about, his mom potentially getting sick and

623
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: like that's why he always gets or whatever she wants

624
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. These are just things that he's

625
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: feeling in the moment. It's different with Drake because Drake

626
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: was a direct attack that he provokes. So yeah, like

627
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: that's there. You mean time to let that, especially how

628
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: Kate got dismantled you. This is what the meat the

629
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: fans this like like every not saying the fans and

630
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: this man too. But look at Miss My Dogs. That

631
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: had horrible reception, right, I thought it was fine, but

632
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: most people did not like the ship. They don't like Like,

633
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: why would you think they like your album if they

634
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: don't even like your That ship was supposed to been heartfelt.

635
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: So if they didn't feel that, why the hell you

636
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: think they gonna feel your album When you're talking about

637
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: more heartfelt ship. You need a little bit more time

638
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: to address the ship, and you need some more You

639
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: need a little bit more time for the dust to settle.

640
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do agree with that.

641
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 4: I think that is a good point to let shit

642
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 4: kind of calm down because people are but but but that.

643
00:30:56,040 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 1: But but for Gunner that he is soon as he

644
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: got off okay right with an album Man and one

645
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: to One, and we all said that we thought that

646
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: that was a good project.

647
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 2: But I think I think Gunna typically makes better projects

648
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 2: from what.

649
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: I heard, than He's on the run right now, he's

650
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: on the run and he has way less work than

651
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: Thug does.

652
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 2: And here's the thing.

653
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: Before that project, I was never like and I'm still

654
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: not a Gunner fan, but I definitely like Gunna a

655
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: lot more now.

656
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 2: I like his music more than Thug.

657
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: But I felt like he came out very soon right

658
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: after the controversy, talked about some of the controversy.

659
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Speaker 2: The album was really good, and you know, it is

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Speaker 2: what it is with this.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Yug Thug fans like Yug Thug for

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Speaker 1: this type of content, and that's the reason why I

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Speaker 1: think it's not well received by the masses, but it's

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Speaker 1: received by hip hop has like us to a degree,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I'm pretty sure there's other

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00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: hip hop heads. Joe Budden said that he didn't like it.

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00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: You know, he thought he was trash as well. However,

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Speaker 1: I do feel that for us, like you said, for

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Speaker 1: everything you said, I like the I don't like the

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Speaker 1: autotune shit. I don't like the sing songy shit. I

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Speaker 1: don't I don't like that he stripped all of that away.

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Speaker 1: It was relatively honest on here. What do I always

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Speaker 1: say about the shit I like about artists? He gave

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Speaker 1: me a glimpse into the to the psyche of what

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Speaker 1: he's going through. I respect that.

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Speaker 2: I respect that too.

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Speaker 1: But like I said, honest or not, I just felt

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Speaker 1: like he needed a little bit more time to address it.

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00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: Need a little bit more time to address it, and

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Speaker 1: a little bit more time for the dust to settle,

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Speaker 1: because it's not like Joey Badass.

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Speaker 2: We feel like Joey Badass.

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Speaker 1: Mister Mark, right, He missed the mark because he was

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Speaker 1: on he was in a positive light, and he didn't

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Speaker 1: come drop when it was in a positive light. Young

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00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: thug was not in a positive light when he dropped this.

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Speaker 1: Sure people would talk, his name was in it out there,

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Speaker 1: but it wasn't in a positive way. It would have

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Speaker 1: had to been stellar for the people to be like.

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Speaker 2: This is something novely good. Yeah, but it wasn't that.

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Speaker 1: Isn't it smart to come out right with this project

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00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: for whatever reasons and lowers the expectation.

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Speaker 2: That lowers the bar.

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Speaker 1: So that way when he does come out with that

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Speaker 1: next project, I don't know if he's gonna hit the mark,

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Speaker 1: but if he does, people ain't gonna remember this.

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Speaker 2: Nobody talk about it.

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Speaker 4: So this is this is interesting because I don't think

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Speaker 4: people are gonna listen. So so I'm I'm I'm I'm

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Speaker 4: leaning sixty seventy.

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Speaker 3: With Rod. I'm the other percent.

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Speaker 4: I'm with you, And I say that because I do

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Speaker 4: think he needed to give people time to kind of forget.

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Speaker 4: At the same time, because of everything that's going on,

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Speaker 4: he had more people listening to his music than ever.

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Speaker 4: It just wasn't up to It wasn't likable to them.

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Speaker 3: Some of the people that are talking about Young Thunder, they.

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Speaker 4: Probably want to listen to this album if it would

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Speaker 4: have just been a regular, traditional, non controversial rollout, as

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Speaker 4: they probably skipped all of his other joints in the past.

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Speaker 4: But because of everything that's going on, people want to

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Speaker 4: go listen to hear what he has to saying and

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Speaker 4: they just didn't like it, which because of everything that's

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Speaker 4: going on, they're going into this.

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Speaker 3: Album with.

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Speaker 4: Expectations, whether they know it or not. Waiting a big

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Speaker 4: could have probably kind of lowered those.

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Speaker 3: Expectations just a little bit. The question is would people

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Speaker 3: have listened.

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Speaker 4: Now that people are listening, Everybody that listen now, they

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Speaker 4: ain't gonna like, I love the last one was trashed,

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Speaker 4: I'm not listening to this, to this next album, they

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Speaker 4: wouldn't care.

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Speaker 1: But see, and this is why I disagree, because if

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Speaker 1: the next album has that certified hit that's gonna make

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Speaker 1: the rounds on radio, everybody's talking about it because it's

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Speaker 1: that good, then'll be like, well maybe I will. And

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Speaker 1: if he drops another joint off the same project, that's

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Speaker 1: another hit which Young Thug has done in the past, right, Like,

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Speaker 1: I'm just going off of history. If he if he's

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Speaker 1: on that type of running, he makes that type of project,

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Speaker 1: this is gonna be forgotten. People not even gonna mention this.

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Speaker 1: They gonna forget about this now. They're not gonna forget

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Speaker 1: about the controversy.

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Speaker 2: You know, we're talking about Rico.

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Speaker 1: This that whatever the memes, the audio leaks, they're not

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Speaker 1: gonna forget about that, but they gonna forget about this

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Speaker 1: this project. But I think that if the next one

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Speaker 1: has those certified bangers, they're not gonna forgive a fucking whoop?

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Speaker 3: Do you?

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Speaker 1: I can't even say whooped the new goddamn whooped the dow?

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Speaker 1: But look, how do y'all feel in the common section?

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Speaker 1: Do y'all think that young Thuught should have took a

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00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: little bit more time? Do y'all like this project? Not

745
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 1: like this project?

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Speaker 2: Do you feel weird about the hearty are?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 2: What about the white face?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 2: Is that the news? Is that the new thing in

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00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five? Like, you know, freake did it? Okay,

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00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 2: No he didn't.

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Speaker 1: Reverse Hey look again, shout out to on ck TV podcast. Hey,

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Speaker 1: we'll catch you on the next one.

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Speaker 2: We out Peace,